Politics May 11, 2009

A legal battle where nobody wins

It might be legally flawed or it might not but the ICC's decision to withdraw World Cup matches from Pakistan was hardly a surprise
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It might be legally flawed or it might not but the ICC's decision to withdraw World Cup matches from Pakistan was hardly a surprise. The simple fact that sets Pakistan's situation apart from other troubled countries is that the Pakistani authorities promised presidential level security but failed to provide it. There might be conflict in the rest of Asia but none of Pakistan's neighbours has made empty security promises. It is a situation without a saving grace or a get-out-of-jail card.

Under these circumstances, it is hard to see any cricketer or cricket board trusting the PCB and the Pakistan Government in the immediate future. This depressing reality will be hard to accept for Pakistan fans, especially those who will be cheering on the PCB's latest legal battle.

But the PCB's complaint will produce no winners, nor will it persuade anybody to tour Pakistan. The only beneficial outcome for Pakistan cricket might be that the ICC could be forced to put together a hefty compensation package. Either way, this legal stupidity will add further evidence to the view held by potential tourists that the PCB has lost touch with reality.

Instead, the PCB should push for Pakistan's matches to be relocated to Dubai and UAE. Yes, all Pakistan cricket fans want international teams to return but that is a misplaced hope for the next World Cup considering the current conflict within Pakistan. Now is the time for pragmatism, and relocation is the PCB's best option.

Now is also the time to make sure that all PCB communications are professionally prepared. The quality of the statement issued by Ijaz Butt suggests that it had not been vetted by the PCB's England-based lawyers. A strange process considering that the PCB is launching a highly controversial, high profile legal case? But then attention to detail, proper process, and political judgment are attributes that this current PCB regime has been especially incapable of mastering.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • Priest on December 23, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    This shows real expertise. Thanks for the anwesr.

  • AVIDFAN on May 9, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    playin in dubai is a big idiotic idea.. this is not going to happen as players wont be going more than 1000kms just to play one match an come bck to the sub-continent for another...so that solution is out-200%... and pakistan deserves to lose their status to hold the world cup.. they should even face a ban..not because it holds extremists in its country..but because it failed miserably in providing security to the team..

    Teams touring india , sri lanka are given more than presidential security at all times..what was the meagre security provided by the pCB?

  • nadia on June 20, 2009, 17:48 GMT

    just one more to go pakistan. you can do it younus khan. may Allah help you all.

  • vikram on May 14, 2009, 21:46 GMT

    the only motive for PCB to launch the legal case is manage somwhow to get as much compensation as possible i.e. it is just trying to blackmail ICC. this is now openly accepted! For its every failure all pakistanis want is to blame India/BCCI. This is a sickening trend and it just makes realise rest of the world how much as a nation this country has indeed deteriorated. same is the attutude in the so called war on terror, where demands hjave been made to rest of the world to pay for all the mess this country is in.

  • Syed, Dallas USA on May 14, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    Kamran , I have only seen your most Colum on Pakistan cricket so I assume you a columnist who represent Pakistan cricket interest, well still waiting to see one!! Well Cricket is followed in and outside Pakistan by a large number of the Pakistanis, ICL introduction of Lahore Badshah was purely to interact more viewers from Pakistan. Cricket has a large financial benefit for the member countries and the ICC, I am a big supporter of the game and like to watch at all level but I feel that PCB was shoulder out by the influenced cricket board in this case and the due process was not carried out, PCB did poor for not voting on the matter but that should not allow the world body to ignore millions of cricket lovers in Pakistan, most of us like to see 14 games are played in a alternative venues instead of going into SL, BANG, or IND or else PCB pulling out of this competition, Period…

  • Samir, India on May 14, 2009, 13:43 GMT

    Your India fixation is touching guys ... but you can relax on one front ... We really don't think so much about you.

    We have much bigger fish to fry, You are really not too significant at the moment.

    Ehsan is anyway on PCB's payroll as their representative in the current issue, I wonder why Butt didn't say that being on the inside, I didn't know past presidents of ICC were privy to discussions that happened after their time... That means what Ehsan Mani says is pure conjecture ..

    You can go back to playing your silly little games.

    Ifr BCCI had really wanted, they could have conducted the whole world cup in India in the first place, which in hindsight would have been a darn better idea rather being this benevolent neighbourhood strongman.

    PCB's saying that there's no problem is like Tariq Aziz saying that Saddam was in control when you could see the american tanks parked behind him..

  • Chacha on May 14, 2009, 13:32 GMT

    @ jumbodumbo

    You should work on your spelling and grammer before taking snipes at other!

  • Irfan Rizvi on May 14, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    I totally agree with shabut that the matter is not the Srilankan team incident teams has been refusing to visit Pakistan since long time back, Even when other teams tours were very successful, BCCI's strategy is aligned with Indian Govt strategy to isolate Pakistan on all fronts, and there are enough proofs to back this claim, In my opinion PCB is right to fight for this case even though they will not get anything out of it but atleast Tell ICC/BCCI that we wont sit quiet on all their misdeeds.

  • Rauf on May 14, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    Reading what Ehsan Mani had to say about this legal case at http://content.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/404277.html it is pretty much confirmed that India led the way in Asian bloc to dump Pakistan unceramoniously. No wonder Indians are shouting the loudest against this legal case in all the cricinfo blogs. I hope PCB has finally realized that BCCI is not to be trusted. They should have realized this a long time ago. Perhaps they wouldn't be in this much mess at this point.

  • VRao on May 14, 2009, 7:30 GMT

    I am amazed at how the Pakistan establishment always complain to the rest of the world about being treated unfairly. There is no positive action on the incident . Agreed it is not the cricket board responsiblity but the govt - but atleast they can put pressure on them. At least if they had captured/ or even identified one terrorist from the many who attacked the Sri lankan cricketers, it would have given some proof that the Pakistan police is existing and alive! Till now nobody is talking of them . Let me remind that they walked freely after the incident - they did not try to hide themselves. In this scenario how can anyone beleive the promises of security by Paksitan government

  • Priest on December 23, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    This shows real expertise. Thanks for the anwesr.

  • AVIDFAN on May 9, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    playin in dubai is a big idiotic idea.. this is not going to happen as players wont be going more than 1000kms just to play one match an come bck to the sub-continent for another...so that solution is out-200%... and pakistan deserves to lose their status to hold the world cup.. they should even face a ban..not because it holds extremists in its country..but because it failed miserably in providing security to the team..

    Teams touring india , sri lanka are given more than presidential security at all times..what was the meagre security provided by the pCB?

  • nadia on June 20, 2009, 17:48 GMT

    just one more to go pakistan. you can do it younus khan. may Allah help you all.

  • vikram on May 14, 2009, 21:46 GMT

    the only motive for PCB to launch the legal case is manage somwhow to get as much compensation as possible i.e. it is just trying to blackmail ICC. this is now openly accepted! For its every failure all pakistanis want is to blame India/BCCI. This is a sickening trend and it just makes realise rest of the world how much as a nation this country has indeed deteriorated. same is the attutude in the so called war on terror, where demands hjave been made to rest of the world to pay for all the mess this country is in.

  • Syed, Dallas USA on May 14, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    Kamran , I have only seen your most Colum on Pakistan cricket so I assume you a columnist who represent Pakistan cricket interest, well still waiting to see one!! Well Cricket is followed in and outside Pakistan by a large number of the Pakistanis, ICL introduction of Lahore Badshah was purely to interact more viewers from Pakistan. Cricket has a large financial benefit for the member countries and the ICC, I am a big supporter of the game and like to watch at all level but I feel that PCB was shoulder out by the influenced cricket board in this case and the due process was not carried out, PCB did poor for not voting on the matter but that should not allow the world body to ignore millions of cricket lovers in Pakistan, most of us like to see 14 games are played in a alternative venues instead of going into SL, BANG, or IND or else PCB pulling out of this competition, Period…

  • Samir, India on May 14, 2009, 13:43 GMT

    Your India fixation is touching guys ... but you can relax on one front ... We really don't think so much about you.

    We have much bigger fish to fry, You are really not too significant at the moment.

    Ehsan is anyway on PCB's payroll as their representative in the current issue, I wonder why Butt didn't say that being on the inside, I didn't know past presidents of ICC were privy to discussions that happened after their time... That means what Ehsan Mani says is pure conjecture ..

    You can go back to playing your silly little games.

    Ifr BCCI had really wanted, they could have conducted the whole world cup in India in the first place, which in hindsight would have been a darn better idea rather being this benevolent neighbourhood strongman.

    PCB's saying that there's no problem is like Tariq Aziz saying that Saddam was in control when you could see the american tanks parked behind him..

  • Chacha on May 14, 2009, 13:32 GMT

    @ jumbodumbo

    You should work on your spelling and grammer before taking snipes at other!

  • Irfan Rizvi on May 14, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    I totally agree with shabut that the matter is not the Srilankan team incident teams has been refusing to visit Pakistan since long time back, Even when other teams tours were very successful, BCCI's strategy is aligned with Indian Govt strategy to isolate Pakistan on all fronts, and there are enough proofs to back this claim, In my opinion PCB is right to fight for this case even though they will not get anything out of it but atleast Tell ICC/BCCI that we wont sit quiet on all their misdeeds.

  • Rauf on May 14, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    Reading what Ehsan Mani had to say about this legal case at http://content.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/current/story/404277.html it is pretty much confirmed that India led the way in Asian bloc to dump Pakistan unceramoniously. No wonder Indians are shouting the loudest against this legal case in all the cricinfo blogs. I hope PCB has finally realized that BCCI is not to be trusted. They should have realized this a long time ago. Perhaps they wouldn't be in this much mess at this point.

  • VRao on May 14, 2009, 7:30 GMT

    I am amazed at how the Pakistan establishment always complain to the rest of the world about being treated unfairly. There is no positive action on the incident . Agreed it is not the cricket board responsiblity but the govt - but atleast they can put pressure on them. At least if they had captured/ or even identified one terrorist from the many who attacked the Sri lankan cricketers, it would have given some proof that the Pakistan police is existing and alive! Till now nobody is talking of them . Let me remind that they walked freely after the incident - they did not try to hide themselves. In this scenario how can anyone beleive the promises of security by Paksitan government

  • jumbodumbo on May 14, 2009, 7:12 GMT

    As I can see a lot of people in Pakistan would be pacified if compensation was paid to PCB like Champions Trophy. They would have preferred ICC to say - please leave presence rather than FO.

    It is a sad reflection on the mindset of a lot of people of Pakistan as well. This is what a mind numbing situation can do to a country. The country and its leadership looses all sense of self respect.

    True respect is in setting things right inside Pakistan so that people do not mind touring the country. Sniping at others will worsen your situation and do little else.

  • syed salim on May 14, 2009, 5:26 GMT

    PCB did a great job by challenging the decision. ICC should include this matter in the agenda of that meeting and that's why IJAZ BUTT did not vote. he is absopuloutely right. ICC shows its discrimination against PAKISTAN several times before.ICC become a commercial organization insted of regulatory body and that's why it is more influenced with the assocations who are supported by multimilionare companies. (continue its dixcriminatory policy. I do not want to mention what is happenening in other 3 countries in terms of terrorism but I want to mention one thing that 2011 world cup was assigned to 4 countries and so these countries become one entity now. so you can not deprive one country, you have to change the entire venue. 2ndly What will happen if pakistan reaches to semi or in final (Insha allah) and Pakistan govt did not let them to play in INDIA? Actualy ICC wants to make happy certain people and they do not bother about the game -- SO SAD allow its team to play in INDIA ,

  • Hamid on May 14, 2009, 2:23 GMT

    The SL tour was arranged to show the world that Pakistan is a safe place for cricketers. Yet the security was nothing like previous teams have been provided. Mr.Butt and his PCB were unaware of the lack of security arrangements. It should have been on every PCB members mind to ensure a safe visit by SL team. Yet, even in the aftermath Mr.Butt chose to issue statements against one of the victims of the attack (i.e Chris Broad), who did nothing but state facts, instead of probing and rectifying his own mistake---a mistake that may prove to be the final nail in the coffin of Pak Cricket. So, I don't understand how Mr.Butt hopes to restore the world's confidence in PCBs ability to arrange tours safely by suing the ICC. In fact, we Pakistanis have the right to sue Mr.Butt for his negligence during the SL tour. It is PCB and the govt. that have committed grave injustice to Pakistan Cricket, not the ICC.

  • AN on May 13, 2009, 23:53 GMT

    As an NGO researcher, I am appalled at the paranoia and denial that the PCB, the army and many people are living under. Just today, nearly a million people were displaced in Swat and NWFP due to infighting between the armed forces and insurgents on a shocking scale. For all the pride and nationalism where is the outrage at this? Seeing young children being brutalized in this conflict has been a depressing sight. Is there "a Rawanda or Sudan or Bangladesh-71" about to happen here? And people here are worried about WC 2011 and ICC-BCCI conspiracy etc. National self examination will show that the enemy is internal, groomed and nutured and is now eating its creator. Aziz Mengal above, is right in worrying about the country staying together as one.

  • Sachin Fan, Florida , USA on May 13, 2009, 23:43 GMT

    News Update: PCB ( Ijaj Butthead) didn't remain present during World cup hosting exclusion vote. I am sure that no "sane Pak cricket supporter" will support PCB decision to sue anymore since its evident that Butt(head) intentionally remained absent during voting and then changed his mind later to save his job. :-). End of Discussion. PeAcE OuT !! Sachin Fan , Florida , USA

  • Mahir on May 13, 2009, 19:50 GMT

    I reiterate the comments of some Gugu Khan previously on one of the posts, 'Ejaz Butt is not the Punjabi Butt but an English 'Butt''.

  • Kaiser Mukhtar on May 13, 2009, 19:49 GMT

    I think this is high time PCB should realize the gravity of situation and should have suggested much earlier to ICC to relocate matches in UAE but they have failed us and they failed us when SL toured Pakistan by not doing enough to protect the visitors (MEHMAANS). They failed us by not voting against the decision at the ICC meeting which is a weak point in this legal case against ICC. Mr. Butt is now going to waste precious money and fail again. They succumbed to ICC decision to forfeit the Oval test when they reversed the status of the match many times which is ironically laughable. When Indian Tendulkar was blamed for ball tempering in SA the match was declared null and void at the behest of BCCI. But PCB could not defend itself then and now what can they get out of it at all. Sorry to say but I feel for Pakistan and cricket but nobody is realizing the truth of time and situation. Shame on PCB and its jokers. May Allah save Pakistan from current situation.

  • Sachin Fan, Florida , USA on May 13, 2009, 18:33 GMT

    ICC must now swing into action with help from BCCI, to kick PCB out of league. This will teach lesson for rabbits not to mess with Tigers . lol. PCB is acting like sore loser. Nobody wants to play in Pakistan anymore with darn Talibans on loose 60 miles away from capital . No cricketer and no cricketing nation. Get a Grip !! Give up PCB or you will face more international isolation and apathy. Worst is yet to come. Are you ready for it ???

  • AJN on May 13, 2009, 17:26 GMT

    Let's cheer up the mood by recommending PCB to be innovative and draw the attention of cricket lovers world over. PCB should introduce T-TEN format in which each bowler will be allowed to bowl only two overs.By doing so they will be able to facilitate SA. NO, NO ... SA is not Suicidal Attack, its Shoaib Akhter. And SA is working very hard on his fitness, as claimed by Younas Khan. Surely he will make every effort to complete one over but we should not risk him further to sustain any injury.

  • Abdul Kadir Hussain on May 13, 2009, 12:20 GMT

    Kamran and most of the people posting comments on this page have completely missed the point. The point here is that all World Class organizations have well defined process through which they deal with conflicts within the organization. The PCB is responsible for failure of security that led to the attacks, no one can debate that. But the ICC should have a process in place whereby it investigates these failures and appropriately penalizes the offending board. The way this decision was made was ad-hoc, political and totally discriminatory. I am ashamed that people like Kamran and Usman are actually defending the ICC decision. The proper manner to handle this was to say that we have appointed a committee that within 60 days will present its findings about the suitability of holding the WC in Pakistan and will also present alternatives. What that committee could have done was recommend ways where the WC was taken away from Pakistan but the Economics were at least shared.

  • Saud Sami on May 13, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    Kamran, you mention "Instead, the PCB should push for Pakistan's matches to be relocated to Dubai and UAE." I dont see how it's an Instead situation. Pakistan cannot fight for relocation to UAE unless the ICC Decision has been declared unlawful. The manner in which the decision was taken by the ICC and the way in which the other hosts have pounced on the spoils leaves a very bad taste. In order to be treated fairly in future and have a future for cricket being played in Pakistan I feel something needed to be done. you also mentioned that "The only beneficial outcome for Pakistan cricket might be that the ICC could be forced to put together a hefty compensation package." Is it not reason enough?

  • quaidSRK on May 13, 2009, 2:16 GMT

    YES PAKISTAN WILL HOST WORLD CUP 2011 INSHALLAH.SRK AND PAKISTAN BEST.

  • space3k on May 13, 2009, 0:29 GMT

    Responding to Gerard who wrote Posted by: Gerard at May 12, 2009 9:46 AM

    "Relocate Pakistan's matches to Dubai and UAE? The World Cup is in Asia."

    Have you ever looked at the world map Mr. Gerard ? Do you know what geography is ? Do you know that UAE/middle east is PART OF ASIA or did you not know that my ignorant friend ? As for teams having to fly 1000s of miles check this : Distance between Karachi and : Dehli 1100 km Dhaka 2366 km Columbo 2393 km

    Now check this Distance from Mumbai to Dubai/UAE : 1933 km

    You were saying something about 1000s of miles ? Dubai/Mumbai is less distance then Karachi/Dhaka. Did you understand that or would you like me to explain it to you in even simpler words or maybe send you a book with pop ups so you can comprehend how uninformed you are about the world. I repeat again incase you missed it in the complicated tables above. UAE is part of Asia and the distances are no issue at all.

  • khalil on May 12, 2009, 17:06 GMT

    Although it will hardly make any difference in the current situation.PCB should have taken this decision much earlier,when it was decided by the ICC in AUS that the WC matches will be moved to other places than PAK. PCB chairman was present in AUS.I remember,when Akhtar was reported for suspect action in NZ & sent back home.Pak was under immense pressure from ICC. It was Tauqeer Zia,the then chairman PCB,who confronted ICC & made some bold moves.However although ill timed & very late,Pak should have registered its protest much earlier.

  • waterbuffalo on May 12, 2009, 16:27 GMT

    As Osman Samiuddin pointed out, Ijaz Butt has not grasped the severity of the Lahore attack on Pakistan Cricket, witness his comment, "teams will come back to Pakistan within 9 months"- something I'd bet my house on that will never happen. Even if Pakistan managed to host some matches, the same situation will arise as happened in Zimbabwe in 03 and SL in 96, teams will refuse to play there, and the host nation will enter the semifinals easily. Perhaps that is what Butt intends, because there can be no other reason for such a foolish action, other than that Pakistanis love nothing better than to sue and counter sue. Stop embarrassing the team and the nation Mr. Butt, please resign at once and allow Pakistan a chance to take her place in the international cricket community with pride and honour.

  • Pratik on May 12, 2009, 16:18 GMT

    In my humble opinion, ICC did the right thing by removing Pakistan as host. They will do one step better to relocate the World cup to Australia and New Zealand. Yes, Pakistan promised presidential security and failed to provide it, while other Asian countries have not failed to provide adequate security to cricketers, but still, it is not worth the risk. Even if the triad of India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh can assure security to the cricketers, what of the spectators? A massive influx of foreigners in crowded city, and a few demeneted twisted creatures moving around with fireworks is a dangerous cocktail. My personal opinion is it is better to play safe and move the 2011 world cup out of the sub-continent.

  • jilani on May 12, 2009, 16:14 GMT

    Look, we all know where the balance tilts in ICC. BCCI is using cricket as a political tool at the behest of Delhi. This is the old "block from all angles" strategy that Delhi is launching using BCCI as a surrogate.

    The question to me is not that the legal is right or wrong. I am sure PCB has internally exhausted the discussion about relocating to UAE the world cup mathces already. I saw what Haroon Lorgat said to Tony Grieg on TV. So far that I know, there is no compensation for Pakistan-just like for Champion's trophy.

    So why not I ask??? At least leave a bitter taste in the mouth. If no one cares about one's interests then PCB has to fend for itself - clumsily or elegantly.

    This is a struggle to get heard in the middle of people who are deliberately filtering out Pakistan's voice and rights.

    The Pakistani team given the current situation cannot play in India. Actually has anyone even talked about that point yet?

    -SJ

  • Osman Ali Khairi on May 12, 2009, 16:13 GMT

    I mean when these idiots need to take a stand, they don't! When they SHOULD resort to a legal course, they sit idle doing God knows what. Case in point #1: Tacit implication/alleged involvement of Pakistani players in the murder of Woolmer. This was a clear cut situation when a lawsuit should have been filed and a precedent set; When you WRONGLY accuse a team of as heinous a crime as this one, someone should pay and heads should roll.

    #2: Providing legal help to the ICL players and bringing them into the cricket circle, in the best interests of Pakistani cricket. For crying out LOUD, DO WHAT's BEST FOR PAKISTAN. Forget what the Modis or the Pawar's or the wretched administrators in the BCCI think. Argh.

    Live with some pride and dignity..What a bunch of idiots. And I thought with the departure of the Naseem Ashraf, things would only get better. Sigh.

  • Osman Ali Khairi on May 12, 2009, 16:02 GMT

    My apologies for digressing but what the PCB should really do, is stop sucking upto the BCCI and pick its multi-talented ICL players aka Nazir and Razzak. I agree that they may have been playing against some international bowlers past their prime in the ICL but considering our current domestic structure, that standard is still good enough a criteria for them to be pushed into the T20 side. To hell with the BCCI! ugh. I'm sorry Kamran but this was my only outlet for oozing out my frustration on this mindless ICL issue. As for the legal battle, good grief. We have issues and we shall InshAllah resolve them. So clearly, now is not the time to be cribbing over the lost world cup. And besides, what else did the PCB expect from the backstabbing BCCI? The BCCI will always follow its own interests as every pragmatic, practical person/organization should. Screw the cooling period. Pick the ICL players and withdraw the legal case....that doesn't help or make an iota of a difference..

  • shabut on May 12, 2009, 15:05 GMT

    I don't think you can judge this legal battle in isolation. It will be foolish to think that it's just a knee jerk reaction to the World Cup decision. As most of us including you Mr. Osman have time and time again critisized ICC for it's incompetence which has lead to this very latest legal battle. The Pakistani grievances go as far back as 2001 when there were no suicide bombings and no such security issues but still Australians and West Indians refused to play in Pakistan, why didn't ICC intervene then? Back in 1996 the same two teams refused to play their world cup matches in Sri Lanka due to security concerns, where was ICC then? Why didn't they force the teams to play in Sri Lanka when other teams played without any reservations? Every time when teams refused to play in Pakistan ICC always suggested a neutral venue, why didn't ICC bother to table that option this time? These are some of the very basic questions which ICC has failed to answer and therefore in this mess.

  • Arman Zain on May 12, 2009, 14:52 GMT

    It is true that no team will be ready to come to Pakistan under current conditions. But this doesnt mean that there are no other alternatives to be considered.To my view ICC should have handled it better and should have explored more options which would have been reasonable to all the members of ICC including Pakistan. Options like Pakistan games to be relocated to UAE or switch between WC hosts for 2011 and 2015 and may be others. To me ICC should have been more thoughtful before coming up with decision. As far as legal challenge of PCB is concern then according to ICC constitution they are within their rights. So lets see how it plays out. Even some monetary compensation will be a good situation for PCB considering the events of past years.

  • Bashir Mirza on May 12, 2009, 14:32 GMT

    I support the PCB move not because I think it will bring teams back to Pakistan, but because this strategy may keep Pakistan's fingers in the World Cup pie. Even if Pakistan organises its matches in Dubai, Pakistan will retain its share of the World Cup share of hosts' money. 2011 winter is a long way away, and if Pakistan can continue to be a host with surrogate grounds then there is always a possibility that given a dramatic improvment in the security situation Pakistan can host its matches. Besides I have not met a single Pakistani who wants India to benefit from Pakistan's travails!!

  • Naveed S Hasan on May 12, 2009, 14:16 GMT

    I am studying Law in the United States. This case is extremely interesting to me. Even though Pakistan probably wont win this case, it is good that they challenged. Now of days the new name for ICC is BCCI, BCCI controls what happens, with a little help from ACB. They were not represented when the decision of the world cup was made. Don't get me wrong, I agree Pakistan does not deserve to host the world cup, however, ICC should not be able to make decisions without the country represented. This will set a precedent for future decisions. Thank you.

  • Aziz Mengal on May 12, 2009, 14:13 GMT

    There is no government back up at all to the case PCB had forwarded. As a pakistani cricket fan I really feel for the player but at this point of time I am not worried what is happening at the cricket head quarters. But as a pakistani I am really concerned about the country as a whole. The mess our politicians are doing is obviously matter of concern. As things are going very quickly I don't know till the world cup will we be a nation named pakistani. Or may be many of them......

  • Aamir Akhund on May 12, 2009, 13:10 GMT

    Some one plz show Mr Zardari what a bunch of Jokers has he appointed. Not only in his cabinet but also in the PCB

  • Chawla on May 12, 2009, 12:41 GMT

    Rightly said, this is not about getting international teams to tour Pakistan, it is about getting compensation. It is about letting neighbouring countries know that what they did (by keeping low profile in this matter of support, and ultimately gaining all of Pakistan’s loss). Pakistan has already lost a lot, no international team touring Pakistan. Players are subject to discrimination in IPL plus Champions trophy and world cup taken away what else you can expect from PCB. The best decision? Postponed the World cup from Asia to Australia/ Newzeland because no way India is safe in the wake of Mumbai attacks (Australian tennis team cancelled their tour to India) and I don’t need to get into current situation of Srilanka and Bangladesh. Yes this world cup should return in 2015 to sub continent.

  • H.Malik on May 12, 2009, 12:07 GMT

    Dear Kamran , each word from you in this article , is worth reading & understanding too by the Clueless , Brainless bunch of idiots spearheaded by the chief himself and not far behind is the "AAZ" who not far in the past had the audicity to term the Signed and sealed agreements . not quran and hadeeth! promising the Blue Book security to the Srilankans & then leaving them to the mercy of free caling & free walking gun firing gangsters who were supposed to be apprehended within 48 hours ( another clueless head at the MOI called RAM ) , who will come to believe the Pures fromt he land of Pures! The money if any would be crumbs that would not even cover the bills of the lawyers for this senseless case . But where else in this land of puers the sense prevail !?

  • Jamie Dowling on May 12, 2009, 11:44 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is living in his own little world. That can be the only explanation for his conduct since the Lahore shootings. His behaviour and actions do little for the rest of the world's view of Pakistan cricket and for the PCB in general. I've said before that the PCB needs sensible, positive leadership. Butt is not the man to provide that.

  • Surojeet on May 12, 2009, 11:17 GMT

    It is unfortunate that Pakistan cricket has reached such desparing dumps,partly due to terrorism and partly due to incompetent PCB. Even at the best of times, PCB keeps making a fool of itself and pakistan cricket.

    For an Indian cricket fan like me, a Indopak encounter on the cricket field was the ultimate joy to watch. Unfortunately, it is international tournatments ilike T20 Worldcup only where we will see that in near future.

  • Rauf on May 12, 2009, 10:51 GMT

    PCB takes this legal action and right on the cue two resident Cricinfo authors of Pakistani origin come out swinging against it. Our very own "Uncle Tom's" in the Cricinfo. I am no fan of PCB bosses and like other ordinary Pak fans was 90% convinced that there won't be any CWC matches taking place on Pakistani territory however; I was not expecting to hear it from ICC in a manner resembling "Get lost". Could'nt they even give PCB an option to pick a different venue? Cricket may never come back to Pakistan regardless of this legal notice but I am glad that PCB has finally got some "family jewels" to not take this insult lying down.

    There may not be any winners here but the choice is between shut up and take it or speak up against it and we all know which side of the fence you and Osman stand.

  • Swami on May 12, 2009, 10:44 GMT

    The aim of PCB is not for anyone to emerge a winner, but that India, SL and Bangladesh must lose. By doing this, in the end the real loser can only be Pakistan. What a pity that PCB has descended to this level.

  • Shahab on May 12, 2009, 10:35 GMT

    I think in their minds PCB is also aware that no team will tour Pakistan for the near future. That does not mean that legal process should not be followed when such decisions are taken. This apparently what the PCB wants and the ICC owes it to its members to ensure proper legal process is followed. Mr Abbasi is perhaps aware of this but has not highlighted this in his blog. It is so easy to criticise the PCB but perhaps ICC also deserves to be criticised for failing to follow its own legal process.

  • Sameer on May 12, 2009, 9:53 GMT

    The Pakistan Cricket Board should not ask for the world cup to be moved out of the sub-continent. It is our last chance to see the little master, Sachin Tendulkar in a world cup. Please don't spoil the party for the rest of us.

  • Gerard on May 12, 2009, 9:46 GMT

    Relocate Pakistan's matches to Dubai and UAE? The World Cup is in Asia.

    This approach would involve flying teams thousands of miles for one match in an almost empty stadium and then flying them back again.

    Pakistan needs to focus on supporting its domestic cricket, but that won't happen until administrators abandon their imaginary vendettas and look at practical ways to fix the problems facing the game at home. If they can do that, the team will be ready to hit the ground running when normal competition resumes, just as South Africa was.

  • Adnan Siddiqui on May 12, 2009, 8:53 GMT

    It is understood that this legal action is not to host worldcup but to increase pressure on ICC in order to gain compensation or "UAE" as a host as Pakistan. And to notify and make ICC realize about the "unrespectful" way they took the decision. And that what PCB is mentioning "the flaws in decision making proceedure". I am still not convinced that what is harm in it for Pakistan and why Mr. Abbasi is against it. If PCB thinks that major flaws are there and feel unrespectful behaviour against Pakistan Cricket by ICC ( may be under influenced of BCCI) then why shouldn't they pursue legally. Every legally flawed decision must be replied legally, and thats what PCB did. I think you people may be concern of consequences but what will happen worse from current. I dont think so we have very much to loose and that what I think made PCB such bold (surprisingly!!).

  • Azfar on May 12, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    Well don't agree with you sir. It probably is right just to get compensated for the money and work you put in for the World Cup. Your failure to comprehend PCB's decision is based on theory that no country can be persuaded to visit Pakistan but in my opinion if PCB can arrange for matches to be held in UAE etc as hosts then it makes complete financial sense and the fact the PCB was not given an opportunity to plan for this is a bias.

  • Muhid on May 12, 2009, 8:17 GMT

    I honestly, so very honestly fail to understand that why did the PCB take such a step? What purpose will this serve except waste precious time and energy? I wonder what would Imran Khan do had he been Chairman PCB...?

  • omar hussain on May 12, 2009, 7:39 GMT

    The ICC is the representive body of all cricketing playing nations and while they have certain leanings towards England,Australia,South Africa and India in none of these countries have cricketers been directly targeted by terrorists which is the most gravest security failure imaginable.As of today the situation in Pakistan is becomig worser than before and frankly it is not going to get better for many years yet.The PCB must accept this sad fact because the present government is not intersed in the welfare of the country only in towing the line from USA, getting more alimony from them and the rest of the world and as time has often exposed embeezle the funds and put more cruel taxes on the already half dead ordinary man.These circumstances lead to rebellion,anarchy and civil war.The PCB is never going to win this unasked for legal case because ther is no proof for its defence.We are a very egotistic nation too proud to admit our faults.The PCB should consider alternatives like UK etc.

  • Awais on May 12, 2009, 7:29 GMT

    I think Ijaz butt has done this only save his job. I mean I have seen "Presidential level security" on the roads of Rawalpindi and Islamabad. Believe me, no body can even come close to the roadside from where president has to travel and there is almost whole brigade of Police and paramilitary forces protecting that rout. So first Ijaz butt should be held accountable for providing such a security to an International team that he wouldnt even chose for his own security. Legal notice should be given to Ijaz Butt and those Police officials who were responsible for such a lapse.

    The case against these culprits by martyred policemen's families will be way stronger then this "Legal notice" to ICC.

  • Saalim Akbar on May 12, 2009, 7:25 GMT

    It seems PCB is being strategically directed to destroy pakistan cricket. None of the current and the previous have done any thing to prove they deserve to lead organisation of such high national interest. PCB should be immediately denationalised with minimal govt. control, the new entity's sole purpose should be to make profits by harnessing the unlimited and unique cricketing talent this nation has. It will put things in perspective, give this organisation and clear and unambigious direction and benefit the players as well. The unnecessary politics will also end as a result as the only masure of success of any part of PCB would be efficiency and results on and off the field.

    No politics, no incompetence, change the system and not just the faces.

  • Moin on May 12, 2009, 7:07 GMT

    Kamran,

    It seems that PCB is living in a different world. It would be better if PCB thought practically and take serious steps to get the confidence of the cricketing nations/players.

    All the best.

  • Sameer on May 12, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    It would be great if PCB could organize an alternate venue (UAE?), if they cannot do that then I feel they should still support the world cup being held in the sub-continent. This might be Tendulkar's last attempt at world cup glory and the sub-continent fans should have the oppurtunity to witness his final world cup. The security situation in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and India are not comparable to that of Pakistan. None of these countries have had attacks on sportsmen. The PCB could have atleast supported Sri Lanka after the faith that Sri Lanka had shown in the PCB by touring Pakistan. As for people always bringing up the Mumbai attacks, the attacks were planned and carried out by rogue elements from pakistan. If Pakistan had controlled these rogue elements on their soil the mumbai attacks could have been avoided. Shifting the world cup is an option but we will miss seeing the little master in his final world cup, in the sub-continent where he is most loved.

  • The_Good_Knight on May 12, 2009, 3:18 GMT

    PCB failed to provide "PRESEDNTIAL security" as promised. If things go the legal way & if ICC counter-sue PCB for failing to provide adequate security as promised,decsion will backfire big time in faces of PCB. From the media coverage and inputs by Broad,and other survivors of 3/3,it will be very easy for any security agency expert in the world to prove that the security provided was not of the type promised (not even close). As a result they PCB might instead have to pay millions in damages.Even Imran Khan said the security was farcial compared to promises made. BCCI may be a bully but it is headed by people who do SWOT analysis and take decisions that bring profit.BCCI smartly relaised that Indian govt will give security priority to elections & 2nd priority to IPL. Not taking chances ,they smartly moved the IPL even if it meant low IPL profits but this move ensured their 2011 hosting not gets damaged .Till 2011 providing 1 touring team security is manageble, they relaised this fact

  • Melvin Dmello on May 12, 2009, 3:05 GMT

    Before pressing the trigger on its co-hosts some basic homework needed to have been done by PCB. LTTE does not target infidels (be it of any nationality). They target only SL govt and trrops. Bangladesh mutiny amongst themselves only. There was not foriegner target and besides the one off incident Bang is no issues place.Indian problems are also more internal.Except 26/11 never were foriegners targetted. FBI ,Indian agencies and even Pakistani govt has admitted terrorists had a big pakistani connection ,so it was not completely Indian groups handiwork. Besides in all above three nations, the westerners have trusted the security in similar way they trusted Pakistani security before 3/3. But 3/3 showed that it was an INFIDEL targetting & Pakistani terror groups even claimed they did it. Any logical person can see the differnce .Visiting teams fall in "infidel" category. Denial of facts purely for blind patriotic reasons will sink PCB into a deeper hole than it is by taking on ICC.

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  • Melvin Dmello on May 12, 2009, 3:05 GMT

    Before pressing the trigger on its co-hosts some basic homework needed to have been done by PCB. LTTE does not target infidels (be it of any nationality). They target only SL govt and trrops. Bangladesh mutiny amongst themselves only. There was not foriegner target and besides the one off incident Bang is no issues place.Indian problems are also more internal.Except 26/11 never were foriegners targetted. FBI ,Indian agencies and even Pakistani govt has admitted terrorists had a big pakistani connection ,so it was not completely Indian groups handiwork. Besides in all above three nations, the westerners have trusted the security in similar way they trusted Pakistani security before 3/3. But 3/3 showed that it was an INFIDEL targetting & Pakistani terror groups even claimed they did it. Any logical person can see the differnce .Visiting teams fall in "infidel" category. Denial of facts purely for blind patriotic reasons will sink PCB into a deeper hole than it is by taking on ICC.

  • The_Good_Knight on May 12, 2009, 3:18 GMT

    PCB failed to provide "PRESEDNTIAL security" as promised. If things go the legal way & if ICC counter-sue PCB for failing to provide adequate security as promised,decsion will backfire big time in faces of PCB. From the media coverage and inputs by Broad,and other survivors of 3/3,it will be very easy for any security agency expert in the world to prove that the security provided was not of the type promised (not even close). As a result they PCB might instead have to pay millions in damages.Even Imran Khan said the security was farcial compared to promises made. BCCI may be a bully but it is headed by people who do SWOT analysis and take decisions that bring profit.BCCI smartly relaised that Indian govt will give security priority to elections & 2nd priority to IPL. Not taking chances ,they smartly moved the IPL even if it meant low IPL profits but this move ensured their 2011 hosting not gets damaged .Till 2011 providing 1 touring team security is manageble, they relaised this fact

  • Sameer on May 12, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    It would be great if PCB could organize an alternate venue (UAE?), if they cannot do that then I feel they should still support the world cup being held in the sub-continent. This might be Tendulkar's last attempt at world cup glory and the sub-continent fans should have the oppurtunity to witness his final world cup. The security situation in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and India are not comparable to that of Pakistan. None of these countries have had attacks on sportsmen. The PCB could have atleast supported Sri Lanka after the faith that Sri Lanka had shown in the PCB by touring Pakistan. As for people always bringing up the Mumbai attacks, the attacks were planned and carried out by rogue elements from pakistan. If Pakistan had controlled these rogue elements on their soil the mumbai attacks could have been avoided. Shifting the world cup is an option but we will miss seeing the little master in his final world cup, in the sub-continent where he is most loved.

  • Moin on May 12, 2009, 7:07 GMT

    Kamran,

    It seems that PCB is living in a different world. It would be better if PCB thought practically and take serious steps to get the confidence of the cricketing nations/players.

    All the best.

  • Saalim Akbar on May 12, 2009, 7:25 GMT

    It seems PCB is being strategically directed to destroy pakistan cricket. None of the current and the previous have done any thing to prove they deserve to lead organisation of such high national interest. PCB should be immediately denationalised with minimal govt. control, the new entity's sole purpose should be to make profits by harnessing the unlimited and unique cricketing talent this nation has. It will put things in perspective, give this organisation and clear and unambigious direction and benefit the players as well. The unnecessary politics will also end as a result as the only masure of success of any part of PCB would be efficiency and results on and off the field.

    No politics, no incompetence, change the system and not just the faces.

  • Awais on May 12, 2009, 7:29 GMT

    I think Ijaz butt has done this only save his job. I mean I have seen "Presidential level security" on the roads of Rawalpindi and Islamabad. Believe me, no body can even come close to the roadside from where president has to travel and there is almost whole brigade of Police and paramilitary forces protecting that rout. So first Ijaz butt should be held accountable for providing such a security to an International team that he wouldnt even chose for his own security. Legal notice should be given to Ijaz Butt and those Police officials who were responsible for such a lapse.

    The case against these culprits by martyred policemen's families will be way stronger then this "Legal notice" to ICC.

  • omar hussain on May 12, 2009, 7:39 GMT

    The ICC is the representive body of all cricketing playing nations and while they have certain leanings towards England,Australia,South Africa and India in none of these countries have cricketers been directly targeted by terrorists which is the most gravest security failure imaginable.As of today the situation in Pakistan is becomig worser than before and frankly it is not going to get better for many years yet.The PCB must accept this sad fact because the present government is not intersed in the welfare of the country only in towing the line from USA, getting more alimony from them and the rest of the world and as time has often exposed embeezle the funds and put more cruel taxes on the already half dead ordinary man.These circumstances lead to rebellion,anarchy and civil war.The PCB is never going to win this unasked for legal case because ther is no proof for its defence.We are a very egotistic nation too proud to admit our faults.The PCB should consider alternatives like UK etc.

  • Muhid on May 12, 2009, 8:17 GMT

    I honestly, so very honestly fail to understand that why did the PCB take such a step? What purpose will this serve except waste precious time and energy? I wonder what would Imran Khan do had he been Chairman PCB...?

  • Azfar on May 12, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    Well don't agree with you sir. It probably is right just to get compensated for the money and work you put in for the World Cup. Your failure to comprehend PCB's decision is based on theory that no country can be persuaded to visit Pakistan but in my opinion if PCB can arrange for matches to be held in UAE etc as hosts then it makes complete financial sense and the fact the PCB was not given an opportunity to plan for this is a bias.

  • Adnan Siddiqui on May 12, 2009, 8:53 GMT

    It is understood that this legal action is not to host worldcup but to increase pressure on ICC in order to gain compensation or "UAE" as a host as Pakistan. And to notify and make ICC realize about the "unrespectful" way they took the decision. And that what PCB is mentioning "the flaws in decision making proceedure". I am still not convinced that what is harm in it for Pakistan and why Mr. Abbasi is against it. If PCB thinks that major flaws are there and feel unrespectful behaviour against Pakistan Cricket by ICC ( may be under influenced of BCCI) then why shouldn't they pursue legally. Every legally flawed decision must be replied legally, and thats what PCB did. I think you people may be concern of consequences but what will happen worse from current. I dont think so we have very much to loose and that what I think made PCB such bold (surprisingly!!).