Twenty20 World Cup 2009 June 7, 2009

Rubbish Pakistan make England look good

It is hard to pinpoint where Pakistan lost this match, as they lost it almost everywhere and every which way they turned
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Pakistan not only lost to England but they also demoralised their supporters today. In their international return to The Oval, Pakistan produced an insipid performance that now endangers their chances of qualification for the next stage of the tournament.

The major problem for Pakistan supporters is that their team hasn't even come close to winning any of the warm-up matches or the opening encounter against the hosts. It is hard to pinpoint where Pakistan lost this match, as they lost it almost everywhere and every which way they turned. Pakistan, in truth, have looked below par in every department, with the biggest concerns around the fielding and batting.

A lack of ability could be excused but a lack of competitiveness cannot. Pakistan's team has given the appearance of taking this whole tournament too lightly, which is a shock as this is Pakistan's opportunity to remind that world that it is a cricketing power that should not be ignored. On these performances, Pakistan can be easily ignored.

Younis Khan described the tournament as "fun" and something not to be taken too seriously as its main role is to entertain supporters. The miserable expressions of thousands of Pakistan fans in the stadium would beg to differ.

These supporters have been brought up on the bravado of Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, and Inzamam-ul Haq. The current approach of the Pakistan squad and its entourage is an insult to its millions of supporters and their heroic predecessors.

After all, this is a World Cup. Supporters pay to watch at the stadium, via satellite, and on the Internet. They want to see their team win. If not win, they want to see their team battle. Fun comes a poor third in the hierarchy.

Pakistan need to quickly get their priorities right. Even a win against The Netherlands may not now be enough.

Ultimately, though, it is hard to blame the players entirely. When a cricket administration is as hopeless as the PCB has been, how can we expect the players to be impeccable professionals?

A trivial match against The Netherlands has now acquired the flavour of a World Cup Final. Come on Pakistan, show some pride and passion.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • cricpolitics on June 8, 2009, 15:00 GMT

    When Shoaib Malik was replaced with Younis Khan I had written that the move will not change anything for the Pak team since Younis Khan is an unreliable and non-serious character. My blood pressure was going so high when Umer Gul and Younis Khan were so amused by giving a free boundary. It has given encouragement to other players as well, you can see that for yourself when Saeed Ajmal dropped another catch and Kamran Akmal and Saeed were exchanging smiles. This is absolute utter rubbish by the captain as well as rest of the team. I am however still hoping against the hope that Pakistan somehow comes back strong against Netherlands and goes through the next stage. At least hoping is something in our control.

  • Raheel on June 8, 2009, 14:59 GMT

    They are here to visit UK not to play criciket. Its a shame sitaution.

  • Mas on June 8, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    I think the way the Pakistan played match against Engaland was simply not acceptable. The players in the team are taking it for granted, they should realise very quickly that the fan followers of Cricket in Pakistan is continuously reducing because of these stupid performances. I simply don't understand what the hell Shehzad and Butt is doing in the playing eleven, if you look at the opening slots of the other teams you can find the aggression however Pakistan have Test openers who even find hard to accelerate in 50 overs matches. I don't understand why Afridi is batting at lower down and he is even not in his batting form, he should bat at the opening slot and even if he gets out it doesn't matter but if he clicks then you can get the momentum which Pakistan is missing from start. PLEASE WAKEUP otherwise it will be too late and nobody will watch you in any format of the game.

  • Akbar khan on June 8, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi jumps up and down like a monkey when pakistan team wins a game and puts them down as pathetic loser after one game. Give them a chance and stop being no immature and emotional. It just a game. We as nation suck across the board and we are not going to be any better even if we win 10 world cups in a row.

  • sameer on June 8, 2009, 14:56 GMT

    Wat a pathetic display.. Wat a shameful performance..I was really disgusted to see pakistan perform and with this same attitude i dont see them moving forward...even against Netherland...Selectors open your eyes and bring on Imran Nazeer, Abdur Razzak..And oh U wonderful captain why r u ignoring Fawad Alam..Bring him on..With this team lets open with Afridi and Akmal followed by Salman Butt, Misbah, Shoaib, Younis,Fawad Alam,Yasir Arfat, Sohail Tanveer,Umer Gul and Saeed Ajmal.So lets hope all goes well against Netherland and Pak qualify super eights.All the BEST..

  • Armaan on June 8, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    Pakistan haven't their best team in this t20 tournament but right now what they have and what they can get best out from this team is if they suppose to play in this combination.

    1) Shaziab Hasan 2) Shoiab Malik 3) Kamran Akmal 4) Misbah-Ul-Haq 5) Younis Khan 6) Fawad Alam 7) Shahid Afridi 8) Sohail Tanvir 9) Umer Gul 10) Mohammad Aamir 11) Saeed Ajmal

  • Israr Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    I do not understand the opening pair of pakistan batting,Butt to his credit is a long inning player who needs alot of time threfore t20 is not for him, the 17yr old kid first time ive seen him he has not impressed not at all. Afridi he is out of form with his batting but i still think he must be opening and try his luck when there are fewer fielders out near the boundary, his partner must be kamran akmal who is very talented but must show more responisbilty. but i think this tournement is already over for pakistan even if they qualify for the next round they will face more humilty by the top teams! but a shuffle in the batting line up is a must misbah got to have more time he should be in 3 or 4 atleast. The openers must show aggression. Our fielding was the same as its always been "RUBBISH" there is always room to improve. I do hope that there is a miracle and pakistan atleast put up a fight in this series but after watching the performance yesterday May Allah have mercy.

  • Hasib on June 8, 2009, 14:52 GMT

    It was a shame for pakistanis to watch their players playing like this. Atleast they should have tried to win. Pathetic

  • Arif Hussain on June 8, 2009, 14:49 GMT

    I am done supporting the Pak team... Viva la India and viva la South Africa... they rock!!

  • zeeshan merchant on June 8, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    I think its a simple case of being the time to give up cricket and letting india have it. Cricket is a dying game anyways. A shame about the rain though,

  • cricpolitics on June 8, 2009, 15:00 GMT

    When Shoaib Malik was replaced with Younis Khan I had written that the move will not change anything for the Pak team since Younis Khan is an unreliable and non-serious character. My blood pressure was going so high when Umer Gul and Younis Khan were so amused by giving a free boundary. It has given encouragement to other players as well, you can see that for yourself when Saeed Ajmal dropped another catch and Kamran Akmal and Saeed were exchanging smiles. This is absolute utter rubbish by the captain as well as rest of the team. I am however still hoping against the hope that Pakistan somehow comes back strong against Netherlands and goes through the next stage. At least hoping is something in our control.

  • Raheel on June 8, 2009, 14:59 GMT

    They are here to visit UK not to play criciket. Its a shame sitaution.

  • Mas on June 8, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    I think the way the Pakistan played match against Engaland was simply not acceptable. The players in the team are taking it for granted, they should realise very quickly that the fan followers of Cricket in Pakistan is continuously reducing because of these stupid performances. I simply don't understand what the hell Shehzad and Butt is doing in the playing eleven, if you look at the opening slots of the other teams you can find the aggression however Pakistan have Test openers who even find hard to accelerate in 50 overs matches. I don't understand why Afridi is batting at lower down and he is even not in his batting form, he should bat at the opening slot and even if he gets out it doesn't matter but if he clicks then you can get the momentum which Pakistan is missing from start. PLEASE WAKEUP otherwise it will be too late and nobody will watch you in any format of the game.

  • Akbar khan on June 8, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi jumps up and down like a monkey when pakistan team wins a game and puts them down as pathetic loser after one game. Give them a chance and stop being no immature and emotional. It just a game. We as nation suck across the board and we are not going to be any better even if we win 10 world cups in a row.

  • sameer on June 8, 2009, 14:56 GMT

    Wat a pathetic display.. Wat a shameful performance..I was really disgusted to see pakistan perform and with this same attitude i dont see them moving forward...even against Netherland...Selectors open your eyes and bring on Imran Nazeer, Abdur Razzak..And oh U wonderful captain why r u ignoring Fawad Alam..Bring him on..With this team lets open with Afridi and Akmal followed by Salman Butt, Misbah, Shoaib, Younis,Fawad Alam,Yasir Arfat, Sohail Tanveer,Umer Gul and Saeed Ajmal.So lets hope all goes well against Netherland and Pak qualify super eights.All the BEST..

  • Armaan on June 8, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    Pakistan haven't their best team in this t20 tournament but right now what they have and what they can get best out from this team is if they suppose to play in this combination.

    1) Shaziab Hasan 2) Shoiab Malik 3) Kamran Akmal 4) Misbah-Ul-Haq 5) Younis Khan 6) Fawad Alam 7) Shahid Afridi 8) Sohail Tanvir 9) Umer Gul 10) Mohammad Aamir 11) Saeed Ajmal

  • Israr Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    I do not understand the opening pair of pakistan batting,Butt to his credit is a long inning player who needs alot of time threfore t20 is not for him, the 17yr old kid first time ive seen him he has not impressed not at all. Afridi he is out of form with his batting but i still think he must be opening and try his luck when there are fewer fielders out near the boundary, his partner must be kamran akmal who is very talented but must show more responisbilty. but i think this tournement is already over for pakistan even if they qualify for the next round they will face more humilty by the top teams! but a shuffle in the batting line up is a must misbah got to have more time he should be in 3 or 4 atleast. The openers must show aggression. Our fielding was the same as its always been "RUBBISH" there is always room to improve. I do hope that there is a miracle and pakistan atleast put up a fight in this series but after watching the performance yesterday May Allah have mercy.

  • Hasib on June 8, 2009, 14:52 GMT

    It was a shame for pakistanis to watch their players playing like this. Atleast they should have tried to win. Pathetic

  • Arif Hussain on June 8, 2009, 14:49 GMT

    I am done supporting the Pak team... Viva la India and viva la South Africa... they rock!!

  • zeeshan merchant on June 8, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    I think its a simple case of being the time to give up cricket and letting india have it. Cricket is a dying game anyways. A shame about the rain though,

  • Arif Hussain on June 8, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    Can anyone please help me understand if the Pak batsmen left their bats near the Indian dressing room and Irfan Pathan (insert your favorite antagonist here) played a prank by drilling them hollow? I mean no matter how hard they hit the ball... it hardly crossed the midfield... please someone help me understand...

  • Rajiv on June 8, 2009, 14:45 GMT

    contd. Guys like Afridi need to be axed. If he plays one good innings in 20 matches, he is no good. Misbah is such a great T20 batsman. But he comes down 6 or 7. What a waste of talent. Last world cup, he single handedly won the final for Pakistan. Why is he not batting at no 2 or 3? Plus why is Pakistan not getting bowlers like the 2 Ws ? I think there are too many "city" boys in the team now and not much raw young "on your face" guys anymore. I hope the doers of Pakistan cricket look for young talent and get rid of 8-9 players from the current team. The mantra should be, if you perform you stay else you go back, train hard, improve and come back. Sehwag, Irfan Pathan, RP Singh, Zaheer Khan...so many in India team had to go into oblivion, train harder and fight for their comeback. But once they did, they are a very strong force now. It is time PCB took some very tough decision. Best of luck Pakistan.

  • owaisl on June 8, 2009, 14:44 GMT

    One of the biggest mistakes you can make as a pakistani, is to be patriotic. First you are disillusioned by the lack of system, the politicians and the so called "people in power". at a time when the country's 170 million need a good diversion, our cricket team does exactly the opposite. what a defeat??!?!?! why did these uneducated morons bother to even come out and play?? the only thing that irks me more than the "players" is the coach and the pcb administration. they should all be made accountable for embarrassing us in this manner. People will lose interest in pakistani cricket if this farce goes on. the admin needs to be sacked. the players should be given basic educational training and our jackass coach needs to be replaced. you cant rely on the same gully tactics as 20 years ago. employ technology and strategy like the rest of the cricketing world (incl bangladesh and ireland). the way things are going, pakistan cricket will lose half its fan base

  • Ugaman on June 8, 2009, 14:44 GMT

    Due to the situation in Pakistan rest of the countries have declined to play in Pakistan. I am sure if Pakistan's form continues pretty soon they will STOP INVITING Pakistan to their countries and play sub standard amateurish game. So that would mean bye bye cricket for Pakistanis.

    This ad-hocism and casualness has taken Pakistan down...since the team has been treating these matches just as games and thinking "you win some and you lose some in games" they forget that they are "professionals" it's their job to fight to win. It seems like they don't even try.. they don't even care. How unprofessional and how spineless. I say fire the entire team overhaul the entire system get some aggressive players from domestic cricket give them a chance..get people who have the hunger to win who would take pride in wearing Pakistan's green jersey.

  • Mahmood Ahmad on June 8, 2009, 14:43 GMT

    I think this is not a world cup team, what ever was selected.. I think Yonus Khan, Salman But should be not in the team, Afridi or Misbah should be captin not "YOUNUS KHAN", we need fighter in T20.

  • Blue Lake on June 8, 2009, 14:41 GMT

    It was amazing to see the complete indifference from the CORNERED TIGERS (or what's left of it). This is one of the rare times when i saw Imran Khan came wrong in his vision of having Younis as the next best leader (may be he was referring to Loser or Joker!) He should be dropped altogether and we must now try Shahid Afridi as a captain so he could get over not having being made captain ever

  • Mir on June 8, 2009, 14:39 GMT

    We it happens in cricket some one wins and some one has to lose but losing in a fighting spirit would get appreciation for supports Pakistan team should learn that.

    What i Aspect can change thing for Pakistan future matches with current team if pakistan qualifies.

    1. Ahmed Shezad 2. Akmal 3. Misbha 4. Malik 5. Younus 6. Fawad Alam 7. Afridi 8. Tanvir 9. Gul 10.Aamir 11. Ajmal

    I am sure with this batting line up will not be losing side.

    For bowling.

    1. Tanvir 2. Aamir 3. Ajmaal 4. Afridi 5. Gul

    and can use fawad as a speare bolwer

    I am sure if this combination we can go i think pakistan can prove lots of things

  • Ali on June 8, 2009, 14:38 GMT

    How can you have a T20 squad without Imran Nazir and Razzaq.

  • jawwad on June 8, 2009, 14:37 GMT

    Gutted, shamefull.I think 1 main comment YK made was "20/20 is not about hitting fours or sixes". after being hit for 184 how was he thinking to stay on top of the run rate, where there were singles there was no attempt. Why have misbah-ul-haq so far down the batting order? why open bowling with totally Inexperience new bowler and medium pacer, we saw difference straight away when Gulli came to bowl. Seem like it wasnt a interenational match for Pak instead it was batting practice for test match or was it something else?????????????.

  • Rajiv on June 8, 2009, 14:36 GMT

    My dear friends from Pakistan, I can feel the hurt that many of you must have felt after watching the match against England. I am not from Pakistan (from India) but have loved watching Pakistan play always. If Pakistan is not playing India, my support always has been for Pakistan. Even today, on youtube, I watch Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis more than I watch previous innings of Tendulkar. I remember a young Wasim once telling in an interview that when he started playing for Pakistan, he was trying new things and swing etc. Imran told Wasim that he should try those things at a later date in his career. But when he is young and he can, he should just bowl as fast as he can. And man, did the duo of Akram and Younis bowl fast or what. Just Amazing.

    Compare that to YK, when he laughef after a misfield by a supposedly younger UG. There are people in this team who are way past their prime. Or some who never were prime.

  • gull malik on June 8, 2009, 14:33 GMT

    well being a Pakistani i am not going to support ma team...i will speak very realistically that ma team does not deserves to move to next round... younis and butt should be dropped from this team...imran nazir must be given a chance..every team except pakistan is hving a hard hitter India hv youvraj,w.indies hv gayle , eng hv pieterson but we hv no such hard hitter,so we must hv a hard hitter to win t 20. 2ndly younis and butt immediately dropped from t20 squad .. they are good and more suitable for oneday matches but not for t20.razzaq and imran nazir must be given the chance...younis is not a good captain ..he is very non-serious person, last day i felt that the way he was playing it looks that he is not intrested to win this match....shame on you younis khan...anyway lets hope for the best and be ready for the worst.

  • Abdul Latif Ziad on June 8, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    Very poor performance by our team, the poor performance credit go's to our PCB. I think Lahore Badshah's of ICL team is better than this team. Lots of changes in the team should happen by recalling Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Abdul Razaaq, Rana Naveed Ul Haq, Shahid Nazir & Mohammad Yousuf. Captain must be changed and Afridi should be given the captinacy after the comments Younisf made about T20 that it is fun and thats why they have lost all the matches because the captain think this game is only a fun. Younis never have the capabilities of a captain and i think Malik is better than him but Afridi should be given the captinacy now. I dont see any hope in this existing team of our.

  • Abde-Ali Bohra on June 8, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    Read above most of the comments, and agree with all of them, but what is the cause of this downfall, why pakistan is not fighting, is it the money factor to loose at crucial stages in the event, why these 11 men when they appear on the field forget they are representing 170 million people in pakistan, and millions abroad, are they so shameless, God made them perfect human being, and they chose to be sportsman, what a disgrace, they forget all these basics ethics, when they roam around like donkeys and monkeys. Give younis a banana and he will smile, give him a slap, i guarantee he will smile too, because he has no sense between the right and wrong. Does he think it is funny playing 20/20, the whole world is fool except him, complete idiot adopted by pakistani, he should be nailed as much as possible and never allowed to play cricket any where. He disgraced the great Imran Khan, Miandad, Zaheer, who are not dead as yet, please it is only a phone call to take advise, they will help.

  • gull malik on June 8, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    well being a Pakistani i am not going to support ma team...i will speak very realistically that ma team does not deserves to move to next round... younis and butt should be dropped from this team...imran nazir must be given a chance..every team except pakistan is hving a hard hitter India hv youvraj,w.indies hv gayle , eng hv pieterson but we hv no such hard hitter,so we must hv a hard hitter to win t 20. 2ndly younis and butt immediately dropped from t20 squad .. they are good and more suitable for oneday matches but not for t20.razzaq and imran nazir must be given the chance...younis is not a good captain ..he is very non-serious person, last day i felt that the way he was playing it looks that he is not intrested to win this match....shame on you younis khan...anyway lets hope for the best and be ready for the worst.

  • usman paracha on June 8, 2009, 14:26 GMT

    and then the captain comes and says " the youngsters did not know how to chase and build partnerships" who are the youngsters except for the new opener ? i dont get it ? i fail to understand how can these people be professional players for all these decades with no brains what so ever !!! and then look at PCB , they ban ICL players to please BCCI, what BCCI does is not even let the pakistan players play in IPl , dont make them a part of champions league ! what sort of people we are ? honestly guyz didnt we need Imran nazir , abdur razak even rana naveed for that matter in this team , i personally think except for misbah and kamran akmal none of the other batsmen even deserve to be playing 20-20, they are not up there , look at gayles and ab devilliers , suresh raina , do any of our batsmen even reach near , yes put in some of the lahore badshahs and then we will be up there , my humble opinion is that lahore badshahs can beat this pakistan team 9 out of 10 times day in day out

  • Haroon on June 8, 2009, 14:26 GMT

    Playing for your country is an honour but not a right. There is no pride or joy in this current outfit. Younus, though a solid batsman and a good team player, is clueless and totally at sea. Pak's isolation from competitive cricket has not helped either. Pakistan needs a captain who is a solid player, has good formal education and an ability to thrink thru.

  • Trevor Lewis on June 8, 2009, 14:23 GMT

    I dont think Pakistan is over and done. When they played the World Cup under Imran Khan, they were is a similar shape and was almost out of the tournament. Then they went on to win the World Cup. I think Yonus Khan should be very tough with the players and drop them non performing ones. Pakistan have some of the most talented players and budding youngsters. The Pakistani fans too should be patient and give their team the support they deserve. I do understand how they feel when their teams do not perform; its our Indian/Pakistani mentality towards our teams.

  • Manzar kazmi on June 8, 2009, 14:22 GMT

    This team and PCB have destroyed Pakistani cricket.It seems no body takes cricket seriously any more, be it the players or the board members. This T20 tournament reminds us of the previous one day world cup in West Indieswhen we were thrown out of the tournament in the first round.Its a pity that no one has learnt any lesson from the shameful and disgusting defeats.The coach and the captain will definitely give a statment on return that they have learnt a lot from this defeat and the team is in rebuilding process.Well, what else can you expect from a team whose coach is 67 years old, chief of the cricket board is 72 years old and msot of the players are thirty plus and unfit.

  • hasan on June 8, 2009, 14:21 GMT

    i think Pakistan should give a chance to fawad alam.he is a wonderful player they even didn't give him a game in the practice matches.

  • A Choudhry on June 8, 2009, 14:19 GMT

    YK lost it the time he said he wanted to bowl first. He doesn't understand how poor that decision is.

  • Junaid on June 8, 2009, 14:19 GMT

    We can only pray for a good weather on tuesday so atleast our team gets a fair chance to qualify for super 8. It is obvious this present team is not good enough to win the cup but at least they should show fighting spirit in next match. I think this was mainly due to wrong team selection and bad captaincy. First of all YK himself is not a good 20/20 player so this is where problem starts. He keeps on critisizing young players for not performing but when he has produced a match wining performance in 20/20.He was blaming Salman for dropping a catch in 20th over when Eng have already had 182 on the board. I know Salman is not a great 20/20 choice but atleast he was not responsible for this match. Pakistan needs to bring Misbah at number 3 and they should give Sohail tanvir a chance instead of promising but inexpereince Amer. Doom Doom Afridi is a bowler in the side but we have no other better option rite now so he can open in next match as he can perform with bat 1 out of 50 times.

  • Mehdi Raza Mamdani on June 8, 2009, 14:17 GMT

    Pakistan has much on hands to think about before they take on Netherlands. I think they will beat the Dutch to book a place in the next round. But do they deserve a place there? Pakistan seriously need to uplift their games to match that of SA or Australia. All the best for tomorrow Pakistan!!

  • Ehsan on June 8, 2009, 14:17 GMT

    Younis has no idea as to how to handle the team.. or lift their spirits.. he thinks by smiling all the time he can keep the team motivated... all were decisions were rubbish...

    Afridi your strike bowler you bring him for the 8th over!!! Omar takes a wicket and you replace him... Amir who seems to be a good bowler is brought in while England are sailing... giving Yasir Arafat the 5th over after he had bowled 2 pretty much OK overs and can bowl well in depth... Misbah your premier batsman coming in @ 7.. can anyone explain me what is he trying to do... and then a non-serious attitude.. he is taking this tournament toooooo lightly...

  • kaka on June 8, 2009, 14:15 GMT

    hi. cam anyone give the accurate calculations for the margin of runs pakistan need to beat netherlands by ?

  • Javed on June 8, 2009, 14:14 GMT

    Pakistan definitely need to improve drastically to be able to further participate in this tournament. They have to leave past performances behind them and look to improve from now on.

    To be fair, England played very very well, they had to as otherwise they would have been out of this competition. Now Pakistan need to emulate what England did yesterday. I certainly hope they can.

    I actually thought Pakistan did do well to limit the score to 180 odd, but the 3 quick wickets really affected the team. I think Misbah should have come to consilidate when Afridi did Pakistan have to learn from this and move on.

  • bilal on June 8, 2009, 14:11 GMT

    i travelled all the way from glasgow, scotland to watch a bunch of children play against England. I wasted £200 and the same amount last week for india game. Pakistan team is a joke, Afridi is the biggest looser the pak team has had. he has no composure, responsibility, vision, ability...anything. he has been in the team for approx 10 years. he should by now know how to play cricket. Butt is another one who is a duisgrace to the Pakistan cricket team. Malik has been there too long and has done nothing last 2 years. Why are the senior players not performing. The fielding was absolutely disgraceful. Scotlands fielding was better than Pakistans. Can you believe that? Very sad and disappointed to be a Pakistani fan just now. I actually hope that they loose to Holland and when they get back to the airport in pakistan, the people tell them what they think of the team. I did not think i would see the day when i would be ashamed to be a Pakistani fan. Gutted.

  • Asad on June 8, 2009, 14:04 GMT

    Well, it was a Bad performance. only Critics on Younis Khan won't bring any much,as there is not a single player in the Team,who could handle the Pressure of captiancy or even face the Media in this current situation of Pakistani Team.Lack of Practice in internation Cricket etc.etc. are the main reasons for this perfomance. Salman Butt, has not place in this Team, Poor fielder ,Poor Batsmen. Misbah should bat at nr. 4.

  • Murtaza Haidery on June 8, 2009, 14:02 GMT

    I feel Pakistan shud go quit da tournament them selves, i find it will conserve time and money of Pakistani supporters, rather than dat Bangladesh gave india a far better fight to someone far better than england that means pak doesnt deserve to play even against Bangladesh, i don't give a damn to pak anymore and i support WI frm now, bcoz match fixers never prosper.

  • Adnan on June 8, 2009, 14:01 GMT

    I have followed Pakistan cricket for over 20 years and sadly this current team is a disgrace and embarrassment to its supporters. Younis Khan should step down immediately from his captaincy and be replaced by Shahid Afridi, who is far more aggressive in the field. Paks very poor opening batting pair fail to set the aggressive standard required in T20 cricket....Salman Butt should be dropped. Not quite sure how Shoaib Malik even warrants a place in the team. Why on earth was Sohail Tanvir left out of the team!!!!Despite the teams failings, i do believe that their needs to be a complete overhaul of Pak cricket from grassroots level. Bring on Imran Khan for chief selector, manager and coach!!!!!

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 13:57 GMT

    I wished the defeat for Pakistan team becuase 20 cricket is not for the players like But, Shahzad etc. that team having this type of players does not deserve victory. That cricket board who have best 20 players of the world with them but does not include them in the team only being scared of Idian board, absolutely does not deserve any victory. I pray for the win of Holand in next match. If Ijaz butt and century-old Intikhab alam has any shame they should resign as soon as possible, unfortunately they do not have like their national leaders

  • imran on June 8, 2009, 13:55 GMT

    Younis is getting a lot of slack,but i think its his way of dealing with a hopeless situation.I think underneath the silly exterior he is trying his best and is very sincere so cut him some slack. Butt,Shahzad,Akmal cost us the match.The batting is just so weak with players who have limited strokes. Butt only cuts or drives,Shahzad is a test player, Akmal has connections becoz he is a flat track bully, and only performs when his place is on the line, just like Shoaib Malik- another culprit yesterday.Younis did bat slowly but he is not a T20 player -is simply not strong enough to hit the ball for 6.Afridi is pathetic and must get lost we don't need brainless parasites like him,he's in team as allrounder but doesn't take his batting seriously,get out. We don't have the quality anymore and we have to realise that and lower our expectations, but we should take a leaf out of England's book, they never have talent but play hard and professionally.

  • fahad on June 8, 2009, 13:53 GMT

    as far as the question of our pathetic openers is concerned, there is only one answer...bring back IMRAN NAZIR!!!!!!!!

  • irfan on June 8, 2009, 13:51 GMT

    Just pathetic and I feel sorry for Pakistani supporters who paid money to watch this rubbish team. Does YK think he was playing in a test match? Pakistani players supposed to be good against spinners. What happended against Adil who I'm sure wouldn't even get selected into a local cricket team in Pakistan? Surely, he was the weakest link, but why couldn't anyone hit him?

  • Touqir Awan on June 8, 2009, 13:49 GMT

    Well Guys, Pound is going strong enough now a dayz :), i was 99% sure dat pakistan will loose after The Intelligent Captain of Pakistani Team Mr Younis won the toss and elected to Field first on batting wicket!!! why salman butt was included in squad? i think he is the one having the biggest back after younis khan...Team Pakistan is one of the best in world only if they will come out of Favouritism.... I can just pray for Pakistani Team...

    Allah in ko kuch sharam aa jaye aur yeah logg Pakisani Awam kay jazbat ko samajh sakain...Ameen

  • Arvind on June 8, 2009, 13:44 GMT

    Just 2 games each and "small" scores gives rise to some interesting arithmetic, if Pakistan chase. The winning score also matters.

    For example, if Netherlands score 170, Pakistan qualify if they score: - 171 in 103 balls. - 177 in 107 balls.

  • Saif on June 8, 2009, 13:44 GMT

    As Pakistan supporters we are used to such shambles - I was at the ground yesterday and even the English supporters started to feel sorry for us.

    The only thing to bear in mind is that we know Pakistan could turn up tomorrow (weather permitting, insha Allah) and blow the netherlands away. It's not a huge ask to beat them by 25 runs or chase down their total in 17 odd overs.

    I have been hugely disappointed by Younus's captaincy and attitude - he used to look good whenever he stood in for Inzamam bt his post match comments were appalling - where was the 'fun' and 'entertainment' for the Pakistan fans who had travelled from far and wide to watch him and his team?

    The board is also very culpable - if they had any courage they would have picked the ex-ICL players - Rana, Razzaq, Nazir and Yusuf - and we would have had a much stronger team.

  • Shah shaikh on June 8, 2009, 13:42 GMT

    Hi everyone, i am going to say few sentences, IJAZZ BUTT is becoming another NASIM ASHRAF. They fined imran nazir for being indeciplined in a domestic game which is fair enough but is there any point in saying we have no place for imran nazir in the team how can he even say that? He is getting personal, they fined imran nazir and now should move on i think its good that abdul qadir resigned better than working as some puppet. Shah

  • Adeel on June 8, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    Well, this aint good that we don't support pakistani team when they go through problems and difficult stages, however it is quit true that pakistan team didn't even show a fight and lost their games (warmup and first game) without showing any professional caliber of fighting in a game.. they didn't even try it ... shameful they must make some strategy before each game ... My best 11 will be Shahid afridi and kamran akmal opener, then Ahmed shehzad,Younis khan, Mishbah-ulhaq, Shoaib malik,Yasir Arafat, sohail tanveer, saeed ajmal, Mohammed aamir,Umer gul...

    Well wish u good luck Pakistan,, please don't disappoint us anymore.. We really pay attention with all our interest and you come lazy at the end.... please rock the game against Netherland and play well ahead..

  • Hunaid on June 8, 2009, 13:31 GMT

    It seems that too many people are blaming Younis... There is something else fishy here. Fielding is horrendous and players have no accountability. The power of selection should be with the captain as to who can best win the game period. I do not think that is happening.

  • suhaib khan on June 8, 2009, 13:30 GMT

    one thing i dont understand that afridi of today is the afridi which was b4 or someone else with surgery of the face of shahid.please come on shahid bhai. now it is long enough to see the real afridi.but if u cant do then rather give way others to come up.salman butt and whoever doesnot know how to field they must be out.

  • Nerry on June 8, 2009, 13:29 GMT

    YK is nothing but a pathetic player, when he says that Twenty20 is not about slogging I wonder why is he here. YK go home you are past your age for this game and it seems ur not fit to lead in this type of cricket

  • Qasim on June 8, 2009, 13:26 GMT

    What a waste of time……..Is Pakistan team is participating in an International tournament…..If there is any body enough educated in PCB should ask this team that what these guy’s are upto……they have been paid for the job and still they are not serious with their job, as they know that no body can take action against them……this is what happens in Pakistan and now this game is also on the track of downfall after HOCKEY, SQUASH and other games, where we are world champions and now we are world idiots…….. Are we short of players in our country who cannot play OR PCB are short of staff who can go and see the talent across the country ???? We are not asking for a WIN in every match but at least we must see a fighting spirit from our guys…….Lets see what miracle Pakistan team will do with Netherland (as they have already sets record to be first, defeated by teams like Bangladesh & Ireland).

  • Asim on June 8, 2009, 13:25 GMT

    I think its a combination of things. Firstly its to do with the lack of cricket Pakistan have played in recent times as they looked so rusty. Secondly the teams disipline is absolutely awfull and has been like this for a long time as was evident on the pitch yesterday. The management needs to be stronger and have the australian no nonsense mentalility about them. The balance of the team was all wrong. I have no idea what Afridi is doing with his batting just closing his eyes and swinging into thin air. Shoaib Malik and Younus Khan were just hitting singles like it was a 50 over game/test match. They need power hitters at the top of the order and also at the end too. They really need to play on more bouncier wickets and the wickets in pakistan are dead.

  • Kamran Khan on June 8, 2009, 13:24 GMT

    No hope for Pakistan cricket, for years now there have been problems all the time, match fixing, player problems (Asif, shoaib come to mind) coach problems, resignations in the PCB, problem after problem, just heard someone from the PCB has resigned, SHOCKER. It makes me laugh because its a games of cricket and these idiots cannot get that right, I guess its the Pakistani mentality, look at India, both as a country and their cricket team and how far they have gone and progressed.

  • Shafiq Khawaja on June 8, 2009, 13:24 GMT

    Attitude - That is the first ingredient of success,unfortunately (for the fans)pak team has none. Younas Khan is a brilliant test match batsman but a pathetic leader,hopeless,fightless, tactless and passionless for Pak cricket or its passionate fans.His reason for putting Eng into bat was DL ??? Perhaps someone should have told him that batting first would have been more advantageous and also offered more control over NetRR.The team selection was poor and player role implementation was thoughtless. S.Tanvir should have been playing.If Y. Khan cannot stand the heat and pressure of captaincy then he should be honest, merciful to Pak cricket and its fans and relinquish the helm to some one with much greater compassion and zeal for Pak.PS can someone introduce Afridi to sanity,we have seen enough street cricket from him. Y. Khan must realise that his star status is because of Pak cricket and its fans so please take responsibility.

  • Sohaib on June 8, 2009, 13:23 GMT

    I'm so disappointed pakistan didn't look like a team with any plans. We need mental strength I haven't seen the impact of the recently hired psychologist. Misbah should be captain and we need the ICL players.

  • Faisal on June 8, 2009, 13:23 GMT

    Pakistan cricket has fallen from dizzing heights to new dephts. It pains to see how players like Umar Gul bowl rubbish and still be proud of it. Whilst the rest of international cricket players have steadily turned into professionals, pakistani cricket players have dipped both their professional outlook as well as the skill set. Lets face it, pakistan cricket team cannnot be compared to a team like Australia, not for several World Cup to come at least, in the way they play their cricket. But who wants to see an Australian team in pakistani uniforms. What we have loved and followed all these years in the passion of winning at any cost that Pakistan cricket team always had for so long. Its so dishearting to see how lightly these blokes take their performances, as if it was a clerical job they were doing and all mistakes and tardiness is accepted. I don't know how long die hard fans like me can put with this team for any long. It was awfully long since they have givn me smthng 2 cheer abt

  • Umar Jan on June 8, 2009, 13:22 GMT

    An absolute shameful statement by the "Captain".Just feel ashamed that after giving a performance like that one gives a statement like that. 16 million had their eyes on them and what they did,they treat it like a "FUN". Just pathetic. Shame on a team like that. We spent whole night and woke up to see some good performance from a team of which we were expecting a lot. And in response they played with emotions of the country.I think such person should be fired immediately. They are 15 persons, and they are paid for what they are doing. Their response should be positive. Please its a request stop it. STOP it. My heart is rackled by a statement and a performance like that.

  • KHALID HAMID on June 8, 2009, 13:21 GMT

    "T20 is just for fun and should not be taken too seriously",just speaks for itself and quite honestly sums up the attitude of not only the so called Captain Mr.younis khan but whole of the Pakistani team,how can we expect Pakistan team to play with a fighting spirit when their captain isn't serious about this tournament,how would he motivate his team when he himself is playing just for fun.Really i used to b a die hard fan of pakistan team but watching them play "clueless and with no spirit at all" i have given up, my heart went out for all the fans when i saw Younis kahn smiling at Umar gul when he missed a simple fielding chance to the boundary. PATHETIC AND ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH.

  • Aafaq on June 8, 2009, 13:15 GMT

    I think T20 is a virus for cricket..I dnt knw y ppl take it seriously... If nebody here iz a 'cricket fan' den he would agree wid me... Now coming to PAKISTAN's performance.. This was expected... Reason iz dat its T20...Ne team can win it..Dznt matter if its playing its 1st int match...NO competition at all..Dat iz y this format iz a crap...I knw PAKISTAN team has got d highest percentage of winning in T20..But again I must say upsets r expected...SO no surprises...

    I wish on Tuesday we hv a full match...NO RAIN...I WISH..

  • Kamran on June 8, 2009, 13:13 GMT

    Am yet to read Kamran's article here but one question straight up? What headline have you selected Mr.Kamran? Please try not to be like those playing no the cricket field or sitting in the PCB, they simply don't know how to behave, it looks strange and of course unethical coming from you or anybody else, think before you write the next time, you could change the word "Pakistan" with "Pakistani cricket team".

  • Khalid on June 8, 2009, 13:09 GMT

    Much has already been said about the lame performance by the Pakis yesterday, and to be honest not enough about the lame behind the scenes management. I paid over 140 pounds yesterday for tickets for me and my kids. Let me say to the management (namely Alam) it is your fault. I watched the team practicing yesterday, Alam just stood in one place, not talking to the players, no advice, he had his cap on and stood there with his hands in his pockets. Perhaps he also thinks it was all about fun and not winning!! Let me say to all of you, yesterday was no fun for the 100's of pakistani supporters, no fun working hard and finding 140 pounds to support you, no fun being being shouted at by England supporters, no fun watching your team completely humiliated, no sirs, it was no fun for those of us watching, but it is nice to see that you lot were just out there to have fun! hope u enjoyed yourselves yesterday! Do try not to enjoy yourselves as much with Netherlands!

  • aman khan on June 8, 2009, 13:07 GMT

    Its time for Ejaz butt to resign for selecting a test side for the 20/20. he is the man who couldnt set aside his personal ego in not selecting imran nazir,razzak,rana or even haffiz. you also have to have a class batsman in the middle to play real cricketing strokes. i mean yousuf does belong to this side. look at kallis. he doesnt hit sixes but great 4 top of the oder.

  • Atif on June 8, 2009, 13:07 GMT

    I'm short of words and don't think that words could explain the disgruntleness we feel. But I must say we deserved it. Its all over for Pakistan, the team crave for the destiny and the destiny they got ( full of fun offcourse!!)

  • Rashid Siddiqui on June 8, 2009, 13:06 GMT

    It is simply disgraceful!! After watching such a terrible performace I have lost all the interest in the game and in particular Pakistan team. I think time has come for some so called senior players to exit and give a chance to some youngsters.

  • Zahir on June 8, 2009, 13:06 GMT

    (Contd). Afridi uses his head while bowling and results show that. In batting, he is a bafoon and it shows too! Same mistakes every time. Coaches are paid to correct such stupidities but they suffer from their own low IQs? Fielding is 50 percent of T20 cricket. Inzimam ridiculed the idea of having Jonty as a fielding coach. We think computer and videos are a waste of time. This is symbolic of the “tribal” national mentality in most of our activities. Until that changes, be ready for long periods of frustration!!! India has made massive strides under educated foreign coaches. We hate foreigners even if more qualified than our local idiots.

  • Hunaid on June 8, 2009, 13:05 GMT

    Pakistan really needs to think whether they want to play cricket. They are as good as done here. What boggles me, is the horrendous way they play cricket. 4 dropped catches for crying out loud. Their batting order does not make sense either. In the past World Twenty20 we were the talk of the tournament. Misbah used to come one down anchor the team and then they used to go on a barrage. Why have we gone away from that? Bringing Kamran at one down makes no sense. He can open. Shahid Afridi before Misbah is just dumb. And the worst of all, when we knew we were going to lose why not go all out and get as many runs as possible so that run rate is not as bad. I mean were were playing defensive strokes in 20-20. If I can see all this, what is our team management doing? Good Lord please help us...

  • Zahir on June 8, 2009, 13:05 GMT

    We will win nothing without discipline and game plans. Every team tries to block runs in the opening overs, we leak runs for lack of a plan. Most field is set for the off side and bowlers keep bowling leg side to get hammered. Instead of correcting the line, YK starts adjusting the field. Top bowlers now use change of pace as a potent weapon. Amer bowled deliveries with identical pace and length and got hammered. He is inexperienced but should have been advised immediately by the captain/manager. Not a sign of advice! Woolmer used to sit with a lap top taking notes to brief players. Intikhab sits there like a dummy without a clue. We let people play on reputation rather than current form. Until we adopt a professional and analytical approach, study our weaknesses, study opposition weaknesses and strengths, we will keep falling further behind.

  • matrixrealoded on June 8, 2009, 13:03 GMT

    I think our galli(street) cricket is better than pakistan senior team, because we score 80-120 in 5 overs match. so please PCB terminate contract of senior player and select us, and I promise that we show millions of cricket fans that what is real 2020 cricket. Selection is so bad in Pakistan even a Jan sher khan, Jahangir Khan, Sohail Abbas (hockey players) can be selectin senior cricket team.

  • Ashfaq on June 8, 2009, 13:02 GMT

    At least Abdul Qadir felt asham and resigned. These so called legends should also resign.

  • dravid on June 8, 2009, 13:02 GMT

    Younis is so bad in captaincy that shoaib malik looks like a dhoni now....Selectors, Coaches,Captain, Afridi and Akmal all should be kicked out forever.Fawad Alam should be playing.

  • safwan on June 8, 2009, 13:01 GMT

    @ fahad, u shud be named the new pakistani chief selector, u have opted for yasir arafat as an opener, i term this choice as the stroke of a genius!

  • Misbah Masood-ul-Hasan on June 8, 2009, 13:00 GMT

    "What is a key difference between Pakistan and a consistent cricket team?"

    My comment revolves around the emphasis on identifying the answer to my above question.

    It would be wise to stop criticising cricketers, captains, coaches, selection committees and cricket boards (other officials) - as has always been the case with us.

    It would be wise to be rational rather being emotional, so that we could concentrate on our approach, on our basics and on our way of playing cricket.

    It is the answer to my question that can even transform an ordinary (mediocre) cricketer into a good one - and I have got examples (of cricketers) to prove my comment.

    Have we ever noticed of Pakistan's winning streak duration? Have we ever identified the key to be consistent? Have we ever realised that, how long had Pakistan mainained it's winning streak in the past - alternatively, lack of consistency?

    My prayers are always with Pakistan and may God bless Pakistan with success.

  • jawahar ali on June 8, 2009, 12:59 GMT

    why captain younus khan came to bating befor shahid afridi.target was 186 at that time suppose to send misbha-ul-haq or afridi.after last match nothing to say...... pakistan best of lick

  • shiraz on June 8, 2009, 12:58 GMT

    Why are all the fans disappointed? This is what you get with the same players like Shahid Afridi, Salman, Younis and Kamran Akmal. There people are done and should be replaced long time back. All these people keep on playing the most stupid shots and they always remain in the team. Why is a batsman like Fawad Alam sitting outside. Why is not Tanveer playing? Since when Arafat became that good that he will bowl the starting spell and that even 3 overs ? Intikhab Alam is too old to know anything about 20/20 , plus misbah should be the captain. Younis said in the interview 20/20 is not about 4’s and 6’s. Somebody please slap him and tell him to wake up. If you can’t say anything decent please shut ur mouth.Can we first have somebody to train our team about what to say in front of camera. We can worry later about cricket... pathetic.

  • N Khan on June 8, 2009, 12:55 GMT

    Sad state of affairs. I thought Pak hired a shrink before the tourny to get their minds in order? They all looked mentally jadded and lacking in confidence. Whats equally strange is that they did thrash Australia a month ago in a T20 game. This squad was weak and PCB should have picked the best performing T20 players. We had some fine players return from the ICL and play in a domestic tournament. The likes of Razzaq, Imran Nazir, M Hafeez and Rana Naveed, IMO have strengthen the squad. Younis Khan was confused as mud and the coach seems to be a senile old bloke who doesnt see the reality of the situation. Plus where is the strategy and planning? They have to play with better openers if they are to win. The bowling is their strenght, but their batsmen must inspire. Butt is a slow T20 opener. Afridi lost the mojo? Tanvir should bowl, Yasir out. Cornered Tigers or whimpy weasels, Lets hope they score 300 and splatter Orange. Send a message to the rest that the Tigers are awake!

  • ali on June 8, 2009, 12:51 GMT

    pakistani captin should take some serious diseggins.salman butt should not in the team b/c he is not able to hit sixes or fours and shaziab hassan must in the team he can do better then butt and yasir arfat replace by sohail tanvir.and send misbah as a onedown b/c he can damage front teams bowling.

  • Mohammed Younas on June 8, 2009, 12:49 GMT

    Mr Younas Khan, no fun is greater than to see your team winning... no matter how big the margin was... you would have asked English fans after your disoppointing day yesterday whether they enjoyed or not... i am sure they will let you know how much fun they had had even after this one sided game... hope u will learn it before its way over....

  • santafanta on June 8, 2009, 12:47 GMT

    We just need to remeber that the current Pakistan team have not had the enough cricket in the last 12months no tto mention 20/20 cricket as this is a whole diffrent ball game to other forms of cricket, there is reason for the pakistan fans to feel upset and dissapointed in the national teams efforts, lets hope the pakistan playersr can pull themselves together and entertain not only their own fans but cricket lovers across the globe as its a team that performs best with their backs against the wall.

  • nasar fareed on June 8, 2009, 12:47 GMT

    younis khan "T20 is fun cricket, and its not all about 4's and 6's" .... wot planet does this guy live on. I eco wot most people have wrote on this blog....

    just to clarify a few things Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Rana Naved, Abdul Razak, Azhar Mahmood, Hasan Raza, Shahid Nazir etc ....could not play in this T20 because of their links with ICL.

    Pakistan has gone into this tournament handicapped, but they havent helped there cause by taking players who are not fit to play T20. For example salman butt, younis khan etc... pakistan should have picked players who were really good at T20 format in pakistan. The current squad does not hardly any player that can hit massive sixes and who is also very innovative in his batting!!!!!!!

  • najib on June 8, 2009, 12:44 GMT

    Ok here goes, this current Pakistani team is most suitable for ODI 50 over games, not good whatsoever for 2020. There were way more player in Pakistan who can be the best in this game and yet the players, who lost to Austrailia in ODI, were somehow good enough to be in 2020, what was the meaning of playing domestic games? Mohammed Aamer is a fine bowler but he has no one to look upto at all, Umar Gul, the bowler who nobody really cared about few years ago, is our striking bowler, so many players who have experience in international cricket are taking these for granted, just because you got experience does not mean you are capable of having a form. Since world cup 2003, Pakistan has been once in a LONG while joy but mainly a disappointment, the exit of great batsmen like Inzamam, Saeed anwar, and so on and great bowlers like Wasim, Waqar, is the end of Pak cricket thanks to PCB, So many players who should never be in international level cricket are experienced players now like Malik etc

  • Sadaat on June 8, 2009, 12:43 GMT

    V just need team spirit rather than performance. IF you have team spirit then automatically you will try your best to win. I Think Its better to opt Shahid Afridi as opener instead of Salman Butt

  • Shahzad Haider on June 8, 2009, 12:43 GMT

    Not a good performance BUT I still support my team...Tournament has just started. I am sure Pakistan will bounce back.

    I agree a lot of things need improvement. I think the main thing the team management needs to work on is self belief and confidence of our boys. Good luck Pakistan!!

  • Abbas on June 8, 2009, 12:38 GMT

    well at this stage pakistan cannot call players like imran nazir , farhat and abdur razzaq.so they have to utilize the current players in a proper way.i think they must try out fawad alam and kamran akmal as opener in next match along with yk , misbah , malik , afridi , shohail tanveer to follow with tale enders like umar gul , saeed ajmal and other two genuine bowlers.the other thing they have to do is to raise up the standard of there fielding just like which they have done against australia in 20/20 match in dubai.after that tournament they should call back razzaq , imran nazir and imran farhat for there international one dayer team and get rid of butt , shahzad and malik.yunis khan is not a bad captain but he is facing a undue pressure from the nation and ofcourse the elements present out there in cricket board.dont forget there is a war going on in pakistan and this thing must be revolving in the mids of our player.just cheer up and wish best of luck for ourteam.

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 12:36 GMT

    CONTINUE... I am saying this with great pain and sorrow but you know maybe they will wake up and make some hard decision and make pakis cricket strong or it will die. Players like Afridi who comes in like someone placed a gun on his temple and said go bat or you'll get shot... and that is exactly what he does comes in and just shoots himself in the brain himself rather the guy in the dug out...I have to go through this horrific time again for next don't know how long but I hope some how Pakistan cricket gets banned for period of time so they don't come to Australia this summer or I will be having crazy time for 3 months at the end of the year.... Because I love the game of cricket but more importantly want to see my country do better that they ain't doing with passion and devotion......

  • Ashher Siddiqui on June 8, 2009, 12:36 GMT

    hahahaha.....I am 110% sure Paksitan will lose to Netharland and will be kicked out of the T20 Worldcup... but dear Paki Cricket fans nothing will happen. No heads will be rolled, no one will resign, we will see these pathetic, overpayed, baboons (Yonisis, Afridis, Maliks, Butts) for a long time. Remember 50 Overs Worldcup..Akmal ,Younis, Malik, Afridi, Butt ... still spreading shi*...

  • fahad on June 8, 2009, 12:35 GMT

    i think cricket in pakistan is in decrepitude state becausewe are not producing the same talent which we were known for in 80s and 90s.the board always duping the nation by saying "we have a lot of talent" but the real story is the negation of it. selection in team is solely based on nepotism and bribery. that is why we have a bunch of players who cannot make their place in any test team of world.their is no method in our cricket."unpredictability" was a word which always associated with with our past team but our current team is very predictable and there is always an assurance of gift for nation in form of embrassed and ashamed defeat.

  • Yassar on June 8, 2009, 12:33 GMT

    Pakistan are lacking intensity. They seem to be taking it too easily. But i think if we are honest we would agree that ther are big problems in Pakistan cricket which will lead to the downfall of cricket in Pakistan 1. Security situation in Pakistan 2. A incompetent Cricket board 3. Domestic / grass roots structure Pakistan will always produce natural talent, but to have a chance of being a consistently winning team you need to have changes in the above. For the next game Pakistan need to beet the Netherlands by 25 runs or by having at least 3 overs to spare. I would drop Ahmed Shezhad, he seems to be a liability in the field and nothing special with the bat. Promote Afridi to open and tell him to play with no fear. If we lose a wicket early so what,we are losing a wicket early anyway. Bring in Tanvir for potentially Amir, and bat Misbah higher up the order. It also does not help when 3 of your best twenty20 players (Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Rana Naveed)are left out

  • Abdul Halim on June 8, 2009, 12:32 GMT

    Dear Paki Fanz,

    I would advise you all not to expect too much from this team. Because this team is lacking of winning instanct. Personally i don't want to see Pakistan in super eight because this team didn't deserve to be there where they will face the teams like India, SA, NZ etc. In future we may have an attacking team once we have the inclusion of Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq, Rana and Yousuf after this tournament. I think Pak should not pick Salman Butt, Younus, Ahmed Shehzad in this format.

  • SBEE on June 8, 2009, 12:30 GMT

    Yes, Rahul u right. spirit is total missing. I am a indian i never every missed a india vs pakistan match becoz of the pressure and hot cricket action from both teams. i feel really sorry for Pakistan fans. yesterday i was watching the full match hoping pakistan will do magic and put england out of tournament. here is my words for the ppl who said about playing with 19 and below players. chkout with bangladash man all are young and not to forget only there under 19 did will. young player will give there best but i feel pakistan team have some lack of support from the cricket board. all the best i want u ppl to be in super eight and i pray to god again india will meet pakistan in finals. chk da pakistan.

  • shahzad on June 8, 2009, 12:30 GMT

    cont... I may lose my sleep and reflect on what should or could have been. I am still having night mere about losing the last T20 final to Indo where we came back in the match form dead but player like Mishba since that day still plays same shots. Butt is a such rubbish batter that he has only one shot selection. Common PCB brain (not much there) international cricket is much tougher than playing against some street cricketers and they can work out the weaknesses players show. I played 15 yrs for local club in Australia and mind you did really well and if provided with opportunity I at would have give my best not like these bunch of morons turned up for another overseas holiday. Captain, coach and some of the players like Afridi, Younis, Butt, Mishba, get rid of them and bring in youth and groom them for next two years I bet there would be more 'muhibal Watan' in them then these rats who are in the side for too long. I hope they lose to Netherlands (although I am saying this CONTINUE..

  • fahad on June 8, 2009, 12:30 GMT

    i think cricket in pakistan is in decrepitude state becausewe are not producing the same talent which we were known for in 80s and 90s.the board always duping the nation by saying "we have a lot of talent" but the real story is the negation of it. selection in team is solely based on nepotism and bribery. that is why we have a bunch of players who cannot make their place in any test team of world.their is no method in our cricket."unpredictability" was a word which always associated with with our past team but our current team is very predictable and there is always an assurance of gift for nation in form of embrassed and ashamed defeat.

  • Gopal Jhaveri on June 8, 2009, 12:27 GMT

    I am British Asian and I love Cricket so I support all the Cricket team as long they play good Cricket. As far i concern that India and Pakistan should not play any friendly match before the any turnament, any team loss they loose to each other then theire confidence also loose, and this the happen here. Pakistan was lost badly T20 to the India on 03/06/09 and Psychological they down and now they no were near to they best.

  • Ali on June 8, 2009, 12:25 GMT

    I think we lost game when Afridi steps in, he faced 7 balls and scored only 3 runs. He came when Pakistan's required rate was only 11runs/over. I don't understand why Misbah don't come at number 3 or even Younis himself. All the blame gone to Salman Butt, we all know his background and why he is in the team and I can bet we will be in the team after few games. Shoaib Malik, I have doubt on his sincerity, one over 13 runs, and scored only 20 runs. Kamran Akmal, how many more chances we need to give him. Having all this said, Why we don't talk about Younis captaicy, he is very poor captain. Time will tell and fans will understand but for me he looks impaired when other team's batsmen pile on scores.

  • Saleem on June 8, 2009, 12:24 GMT

    Before everyone becomes an expert on Cricket and how it should be played let us let the team play and remember that it is only a game. England were a better team on the day when it mattered most. Inshallah, i fit is to be, we will bounce back and may even go on to win the T20 World Cup. Now if that happens what will all of you who are criticising the Team for its game against England going to say. Go Pakistan. Pakistan Zindabad.

  • Imran Ahmad Khan on June 8, 2009, 12:24 GMT

    I think the basic point here is the mind set of the Pakistani camp. When the captain of the team says that it wont be a disaster if we dont make to super sixes, the approach is clear. They think that they are playing for a club or something and not representing Pakistan in a World Cup event. If your team does not acknowledge the importance of the event how can you expect them to do good. Also how can a captain of team say that this tournament is for FUN. FUN for whom, certainly not for the supporters of Pakistan team the way their team is playing and it also makes no sense to spend thousands of dollars of Pakistani tax paypers money for FUN of 14 players. Shame on the team, is only what I can say.

  • M Abrar Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 12:21 GMT

    It was a very poor performance, no question about that. But give the Pakistan team a break !! This is Twenty20. A couple of days ago the England team was also under the same situation. Yes, I agree the team definitely needs to change its attitude but players like Yasir, Shezad and Salman should be out. We miss players like ABDUL RAZZAQ and Imran Nazir. Hopefully they will bounce back soon.

    GO PAKISTAN !!!!!!!!

  • AAB on June 8, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    Younis Khan needs to be replaced as a captain.After Yasir Arafat's performance in the match against Indai, he still gace him 3 overs on the trot. Umar Guul has been Paksitan's stricke bowler, and he was given the ball when Yasir Arafat made sure that the batsmen are well set by bowling half volleys and short deliveris. And how can you give the ball to shoaib malik when you are playing a front line spinner Ajmal. I dont think this guy knows what he is doing. Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat,Mohamad Yousuf, Abdul Razak need to be brough back into this side. Salma Butt does not deserve to play in the local league, forget the international side. He has only one shot and the whole world knows about it now. Misbah is also another undeserving candidate. His one stint in the 20-20 last time has earned him a place in the side for 2 years now, but i dont recall any performance from him what so ever. Lastly, a side like Paksitan requires a foreign coach.

  • Mehdi Singapore on June 8, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    Poor performance.Buck up guys.Fluke days are over. Very mediocre performance in all the feilds.Think this way Dutch team will beat us.Bowling,batting and specially feilding was pathetic.No class at all.

  • Saad Javaid on June 8, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    The batting order needs to be changed ASAP for example Shahid Afridi needs to come as a third player followed by Misbah. In a overall analysis I am afraid this is a team for regular one day not for T-20.

  • Asim Sheikh on June 8, 2009, 12:19 GMT

    I don’t want to repeat the miserable performance of Pakistan team again but one thing I must say that "at the toss Younis said it’s a crunch game of England" and posed that no worries if we lost we have one more game to play, How stupid it was!

    Secondly, in a crunch game like this; teams winning the toss always bat first and he just decided to bowl knowing that we are poor chasers.

    Extent of stupidity is that no body tried to reach to a decent total even after realizing that the target is unachievable. Where was the team management? They could have sent somebody to tell Younis about reaching 150 or 160 in order to avoid such a bad run rate. I wish they learn from the past and show some professionalism.

  • BillyBeer on June 8, 2009, 12:18 GMT

    Hey get a great pakistani team on the road...its no fun watching India -Pak anymore..we got thrashed at sharjah everytime...and we enjoyed the cricket..Coz the pak teams deserved to win most of the times....these pak boys are shy to look into the eyes of the indian superstars..what are they scared of....imagine a miandad..imran ..wasim.....I guess these are boys not men..get the real ones back....we have our jokers like sreesanth too...but then we have a Dhoni...who does try to win..and talks sense...makes a diff..even Inzy who was a PR disaster spoke better than YK..!

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 12:17 GMT

    every year, every major tournament we pakis supporter go through the pain & humiliation that some coward bunch of guys who Allah provided such a luxury to represent our country to do well and make 16 million people happy back home who are going through such a torrid time since its existence (1947). I say this with such emotion because I love my country and this is the only thing they can do to bring smile and existence of 16 million of us whether in Pakistan or abroad. Last night performance was so pathetic that I stayed up all night and watched these pricks didn't even try to win the game. Can u believe they won the toss and bowled first. Everyone knows that in T20 scoreboard pressure does impact on team batting 2nd provided they score decent target but our so called captain who calls this fun game does realise that 16 million people have put their faith in these 15 pricks to represent our country. A very sad day for us that we never found anyone who can lead from the front sinceImran

  • hani on June 8, 2009, 12:14 GMT

    well pakistani team is really missing abdulrazzaq, mohammed asif, shoaib akhtar and imran nazir. if they were in the team against england i can bet that they would have won the match easily.

  • AYUB on June 8, 2009, 12:14 GMT

    To be frank....i was to be a die hard fan of Pakistan in the past when the team was very competative....no the team sucks i hate the capatian and few players....

    If you wanna stay in T/20 use your best resources on Netherland....i have seen a lot of pakistan cricket from last 20 years and i know in and out about them.

    Use the order below as you have the Current team...and see the difference.

    Please try this order and see the change.

    You would be having almost of them playing an allrounder performanace as Afridi,mallik,Tanvir,Arafat,fawad,Gul every can can bat and bowl

    I swear no body can dare to defeat this team/....

    Kamran Akmal Shahid Afridi Shoaib Mallik Younis Khan Misbah-ul haq Sohail Tanvir Yasir Arafat Fawad Alam Umer Gul Mohammed Aamir Saeed Ajmal

  • Atif on June 8, 2009, 12:14 GMT

    Preparation is 60% selection. It is a given that the inlusion of Imran Nazir & Razzaq would mean semi-finals at the minimum. But not to pick the best of what you have left is a joke. 17 is no age to open the innings, (think Sehwag, Sanath), the whole innings goes into meltdown because of the openers..where us Tanvir? Why is Arafat opening the bowling? Younis Khan has not got a clue and Alam must be on drugs if he thinks this squad will achieve anything. They do not have anything left in the squad to compensate either? Hafeez/Jamshed/Hameed whilst not amazing have some experience at least.. the best they can do now is damage limitation... Butt Akmal Malik Khan Misbah Afridi Alam Arafat (only cause he bats a bit and we are desparate-otherwise it would Anjum) Tanvir Gul Ajmal

    And then pray....a lot!

  • wajid on June 8, 2009, 12:13 GMT

    Attitude - is the only word i would say! This team does not have conviction to play. I think they are here just to enjoy summer and avoid heat in pakistan!

    No character at all. They just need to put all their effort and take the game seriously and they need to be told that it is a shame if they perform like that.....and its not mere FUN!!!

  • BillyBeer on June 8, 2009, 12:11 GMT

    I wonder whats changed in Indian cricket that a Younis Khan kind of smiling captaincy wouldnt be tolerated....its simply the media glare....take the Munaf Patel case..hes such a lazy bum...he gets crucified in the papers...TV ..everywhere..and gets dropped..look at Srisanth...its the same with the chaps who dont put in an serious effort....the media needs to step in and put pressure....write seriously critical articles that get read....ensure that there no repeat of the match against England.....get genuine match winners...out with the likes of afridi....kaneria...akmals..and get a real MAN to captain the side...heyyy get Imran back and u could still win this tournament even if he sits in the dugout....havent we seen Inzy on TV swear in the choicest Punjabi when someone misfields....get them in the dugout...someone needs to give these boys a kick up their backsides...

  • Atif Mahmood on June 8, 2009, 12:10 GMT

    As the news came that Abdul qadir steps down , i think the whole board should step down, 'cuase since this new board are in control , Pakistan Cricket is going down and down, it seems that the board members are only fighting for thier own places not fighting for making pakistani cricket strong. And the Coach Intikhab Alam, where he can hide now, 'cuase when Lawson was the coach , he was one of those people who always criticized the coaching of Lawson, and the result of Intikhab Alam's coaching is now in front of everyone, 'cuase in the last T20 worldcup Pakistan performance was oposite to the on going worldcup.

  • prakaah nambiar on June 8, 2009, 12:09 GMT

    they will come back like england did. dont worry. certainly everyone is trying hard to win.

  • fahad on June 8, 2009, 12:09 GMT

    This was the final straw. I am giving up on cricket. We have had loads of heartaches in the past, but this somehow topped it all. There was no desire to win ! Even when pakistan lost to ireland we atleast tried till the bitter end. To see malik and younis batting like they did when the required rate was more than 14 was pathetic. And then to rub salt onto the wounds by calling the whole tournament just fun ! oh my god..

  • benedict on June 8, 2009, 12:08 GMT

    Younis khan is thinking that he is playing backyard cricket... if you want to have fun, don't wear your national color... please respect your nation and your fans... pak due to their national problems are not having chance to play much int'l cricket.. they should have approached the tournament seriously and should try to hang in... of course they have a chance, so just do it.. it is better to go out in super 8's rather than in group stage... change your attitude skipper... winning is fun, losing is pain.... be cool like our 'MSD', even if you loose don't let your head down....

  • shaheen on June 8, 2009, 12:08 GMT

    Well i think that sohail tanvir and fawad Alam should have been instead of yasir arafat and salman but. sohail tanivir is a match winning player, and his skills should be utilized in t20. and misbah should be pushed up of the batting order. I wish all the best for the pakistani team. hope that they can qualify to the next round.

  • Amin Mohammad on June 8, 2009, 12:05 GMT

    The actual problem which Pakistan is facing is the problem of coach and the cricket board. The players such as Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq & Mohammad Yousuf were dropped while they are the most tallented and deserved players for Pakistani team. If only Imran Nazir would had been brought to the Pakistani team then they would have been on fire... because Imran Nazir is an Excellent hitter and that we saw in the previous T20 World Cup. T20 demands a fire start which only Imran Nazir can do. As i am the fan of Nazir, but it does not mean that i have just spoke about him. i have spoken the truth... I have said what i weanted!!!

    bEsT LuCk PaKiStAn wE LoVeS u & wIll eVeR tIll dEaTh... pAkIsTaN jEEtE gA...

  • Sadness on June 8, 2009, 12:02 GMT

    Guys lets be honest- its our fault that PCB and the team is in such disarray. If we, the fans and supporters are any critical of the team we would see them improve. Cricket is a cut-throat business and it should be treated like that. If you don't perform you are out, out of the team, on the bench , retired, whatever! And that applies not just the players but the coach the PCB members the chairman , hell the PCB head is appointed by Mr.10%! Lets face facts- Shoaib Akhtar has great potential, great ability yada yada... but if he doesn't perform, doesn't stay fit, doesn't get his antics right, he's not worth a place on the team. Get rid of him. same for Afridi, u keep hearing great potential -when's the last match winning performance. Its out fault! the minute PCB is made to realize that their revenue depends on the fan's support which in turn is secured by playing like a winning and competitive team. U will have it. Sachin & Ganguly- big example, didn't perform BCCI kicked'em for a year

  • BillyBeer on June 8, 2009, 12:01 GMT

    I am an Indian team supporter when the team does well!! I do think Wasim Akram was the greatest fast bowler ever....Abdul Qadir the best leggie....Miandad the man who could play any kind of cricket and always wanted to win...Imran the captain with the aura....the great Zaheer Abbas...we have all grown up in fascination of such great masters....where would the current crop be rated....Younis Khan tries to be the nice guy..wonder why??Afridi is past his prime.....he just likes to hoick a few sixers and the whole pathan world would applaud....its time to move on.....Knowing how a pakistani team of the old generation played one could never ever write them off.....they had the spirit to fight and win....I doubt this one has the same character in them...mind you they could still qualify and win this 20-20 .they are unpredictable:) though i wouldnt put my money on it! I would not like a captain showing his colgate 32 at a misfield.and why was afridi advising the bowlers.where was the captain?

  • LuCkY on June 8, 2009, 11:58 GMT

    plz younis go he should open wid afridi if we have to face big total younic have no mind ..i am fadup now from pakistani team now my few team is india best of luck

  • Omar on June 8, 2009, 11:57 GMT

    Whoever saw Imran Nazir play the final match in the domestic t20 knows how he reacted after given out. The guy is still going through puberty and his full of himself. We really don't need no clowns to spoil the show further after the heroics of Asif and Shoaib over the past few years. Fawad Alam deserves a place in the team, should have played the warm up game instead of the unknown Shahzeb (picked solely because of YK's insistence) YK is no captain material. You really don't need to laugh and smile all the time, it surely doesn't mean you're handling it well and are calm and cool. Malik was a way better captain than him and for him to be asked to step down was unjust (It was the team not firing, not him). On another note, YK should have kept Gul in the attack after his first over which got him a wicket, instead he took him out and brought him in the end - so that we could have a target for practising for the upcoming test matches later.

  • Asif on June 8, 2009, 11:56 GMT

    I think ICL Lahore Badshah team was better then this crap team in contest. Pakistan Cricket team mean politics, got position in PCB with hell of a good payroll. drag each other down and let Wasim Akram be a trader to India and UK team with some secret tips of reverse swing. bring those people in PCB board where they dont even have a clue how to run a profit merging department. I am sick of all this !!!!!!!!!!!!

    I m switching team from Pak to Aus where i live, may be i will let my kids follow Pak team when they will get mature....

  • Mujahid Zaheer on June 8, 2009, 11:56 GMT

    All the right things have been said about PK's performance therefore i am going to add anything.What should be our modus operandi from here,is the question;

    Not all is lost and we still have hope.Remember 92 world cup. Following changes must be brought in for the Netherland game with the proposed batting order;

    Afridi Akmal Malik Misbah Yunus Fawad Alam(Get him in the team) Arafat Gul Tanvir Ajmal Amir

    Open the bowling with Gul and Amir.Bring Afridi as first change.

    Come on Pakistan................You can do it!

  • Farhan on June 8, 2009, 11:51 GMT

    Guys watever had happend that was expected.They were not playing competitive cricket for a while.Yup there were lots of bad decision by Younus.He Should have opted to bat first coz Englishmen were under huge pressure.had they even made 150 or 160, batting first,they could put alot of pressure on them,chasing a target is always different from setting a target.

    Yasir Arafat isnt a new ball bowler.Sohail Tanvir and Amir is the best available option upfront.

    but i still feel that Pakistan is Unpredictable.

    u never know after beaing thrashed by England they can do the same to the Dutch and qualify for Super 8..

    they are lacking confidence only a gr8 victory needed here to get that back.

    they have to win by 60 Runs to qualify..

    it is not impossible and they have nothing to loose now

    Gud Luck to them.

  • Imran Ulhaq on June 8, 2009, 11:50 GMT

    Though we have alot of problems; but why can't we utilize what we have in a better way. I can't understand why Yasir Arafat keeps on playing when he has never ever performed; Sohail Tanvir who was the purple cap winner in IPL is sidelined and his confidence has been shattered due to poor team selection. Please realize that Afridi will never be able to perform under pressure; let him open the innings and let him do what ever he does at the start. He is no use in the middle.

  • Rubbish on June 8, 2009, 11:50 GMT

    Let me tell you the best pakistani team for know. 1,imran nazir 2,younis khan 3,misbah 4,kamran akmal 5,shoaib malik 6,shahid afridi 7 adul razzaq 8,sohail tanvir 9,umar gul 10,mohhamed amir 11 ajmal

    there are allot good paki players i think younis khan is not the best choice to be a captain in should be a good performing one some 1 like misbah or shahid afridi because he is like a imran khan attitude. and everyone should know imran khan was not that nice captain but thats what makes him so damn goodd!! angry aggresive captain

  • Yasir Malik on June 8, 2009, 11:48 GMT

    Younis khan has no ability to take even one good decision starting from bowling, feilding and batting order. I wonder why he is sending misbah at number seven when he there are only 4 overs to spare and RRR is as high as 20. Its national team folks if you do not have guts to lead a side you should quit for the sake of your country's pride. Shahid afridi is not bothering to watch the ball just slogging, we know you can hit the biggest six but here we need runs its not a competition of who hit the longest six could take the trophy. with the experience of around 300 ODIs you are giving us this. Misbah should be the captain, as he was against Aus in Dubai. Malik was not bowling when he was Captain but younis gave him the bowl before Ajmal and Afridi. Poor decisions one followed by another. But knows he cant give a blistering start so you should say I m not fit for this sort of a game.

  • Syed Muhammad Naqvi on June 8, 2009, 11:48 GMT

    Pakistan Cricket is going in deep trouble, we are not producing the likes of Saeed, Sohail, Wasim, Waqar, Miandad, Inzamam or our selectors decide the team in AC chilled rooms not in the grounds. They should go out check the domestic cricketers and then select the team like the Indians. You see thay have selected all those players who have performed in IPL even they have dropped Sachin as he was a mis fit. Take some lessons from them and stop this "Perchi culture" players should be selected on merit. What we are doing here is killing Pakistan Cricket. You cannot compare Pak Domestic and International Criket there is a huge difference in both forms. You need to select technically correct player and for hitting and Pak cricketrs are born hitters you dont need to educate them deemography has proved it. We should have to rethink. This world cup has gone. Dutch are playing well & they wont allow us to win and keep weather changes also in mind. So lets hope to see next 50/50 WC. This is gone

  • Adnan on June 8, 2009, 11:48 GMT

    Don't worry guys... Pakistan will come back strongly. They always starts WorldCup in this way.. So wish them all the best for the next match.

  • Jeevan on June 8, 2009, 11:48 GMT

    Younis Khan's attitude is pathetic. When one is representing his country, he should always have a serious and determined frame of mind. Whether it be Tests, ODI or Twenty20, the players must play with competitiveness and hunger. Not doing so is a total disrespect to the nation of Pakistan. The whole mess of the Pakistan situation is very sad -- I was hoping that given the violent and traumatic events that have inflicted Pakistan, the players would play with courage.. Unfortunately, it seems as if they are not even trying to win the WC

  • adnan on June 8, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    sorry kamran you have always been a fan of younis khan ...i dont see why you are changing now ...for me pakistan team is in complete shambles because the strategy is wrong younis khan silly comment about partnership after such a a big loss shows his arrogrance ... its about scoring in the first six overs and when you have a person like salman butt on top what can you expect he looked poor in the domestic format ..kamran akmal should open and where is fawad alam ..younis khan salman butt & co should quit I hope pakistan team loses again so atleast the whole team changes

  • Irfan on June 8, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    Twenty20 cricket is fun cricket - it's more for entertainment, even if it is international cricket." said by Younis when an apology (the least) everybody was expecting. He disgraced not only the nation but the spirit of game as well. He had let down the fans of cricket who came to support at Oval ground and who watched the game live. He should be left out in next game and sent home for his pathetic thinking. If you cant put up a fight for a shorter version then you cant do for ODI and forget about the test cricket.

  • faisal on June 8, 2009, 11:46 GMT

    salman butt is not a player who should be kept in the team in twenty over cricket. he plays so much dot balls and havent so much shots.

  • venki on June 8, 2009, 11:46 GMT

    Guess Abdul Qadir has resigned now... Pak cricket in doldrums... it pains a cricket lover that this is happening...

  • Shahid on June 8, 2009, 11:45 GMT

    It all makes no sense to me. They have lost all 3 matches but Younis is not ready to think differently. AND even when they knew that game is lost but they need to close the margin of defeat they were playing as a test match to the end of the game by scoring 5 to 6 an over. AT least then they didnt have any pressure. BOWLING AND CAPTAIN making it worse. Dont expect better fielding. FOWAD ALAM is better batsman and his left hand spin will change a lot. Out with Yasir. My Team for next match 1)Afridi 2/3)Kamran Akmal 2/3)Ahmad 4)Misbah 5)Fawad Alam 6/7)Younis 6/7)Shoaib 8)Sohail 9)Umar 10)amar 11)Ajmal. I will keep Younis and Sohail hanging to change their places. I will send sohail up the order if needed.

  • Syed on June 8, 2009, 11:42 GMT

    Batting order should be: butt/malik Afridi Hussain Akmal Misbah Younis Arafat Tanvir gul ajmal

  • kuntal on June 8, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Pakistan need all their ICL players back. Remember how they played final of ICL. Imran Farhat, Abdul Razaq and co are better player then anyone in the current team.

  • Fahad Khan on June 8, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Sad, pathetic performance. It was an insult to all of us who spent money to watch this. If Younus Khan says T20 is entertainment, let him know that a team taking singles while the asking rate goes towards 20 an over is not entertainment. Unfortunately, for over two years now, I still cannot understand why Salman Butt and Kamran Akmal are on the team. Why is Fawad Alam not playing? He could have played a similar role to last years semi final against NZ where he took a crucial wicket when the batsman were getting settled. I'm glad Muhammad Amer got a chance and I think he did a decent job. With Pakistan's batting being as it is, you would think that they would practise some fielding. Four dropped catches and how many missed run outs? It was sad to watch. Not just because they lost, but because they didn't even try. It was insulting to all their supporters.

  • Mazahir Abbas on June 8, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    It was really very sad that we lost so badly, any ways Shahid Afridi should have opened the batting, because if you give 100 runs in 6 over, i bet no one can win this battle, so why to blame batsman like Afridi and Misbah. If Pakistan really want to quality for the next round then they must promote shahid Afridi as an opener, and this is the time Pakistan should forget about Sulman But to give him a chance in T20, i think following combination will work excellent for Pakistan....

    1.Shahid Afridi 2.Shaziab Hasan 3.Younus Khan 4.Kamran Akmal 5.Misbah-ul-Haq 6.Shoiab malik 7.Sohail Tanveer 8.Yasir Arfat 9.Umer Gul 10.Mohammad Amir 11.Saeed Ajmal

    Game will really be on for Pakistan..

    Ab to bas Kuch ker dekhanay ki peyas ho.

    Good Luck Pakistan. we are always with you

  • rimjhim on June 8, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Top 5 batting order

    Imran Nazir Kamran Akmal Shahid Afridi Abdul Razzaq Misbah ul Haq

  • Jt on June 8, 2009, 11:40 GMT

    Come on give them space to breath. They are in the process of building up. Give them all encouragement rather than attacking. They will soon turn around as a good team.

  • Goody on June 8, 2009, 11:39 GMT

    I was not suprised at all on this defeat of pakistan.you just think how pakistan can win wiht such batting,bowling and fieldings.i dont know the role of yaisr arfat,and he is opening the bowling.i think it is beter to lose here and not qualify for super eight.

  • Syed Muhammad Naqvi on June 8, 2009, 11:37 GMT

    Even David Llyod (Ex England Player turned commentator) has said that we were expecting good fighting match but it looked like Pakistan never tried at any stage and it didn't look like the Pakistan team with which teams feared that Pakistan as being unpredictable at any moment will snatch victory. In my opinion three or four players should not be in the side. Afridi, Malik, and Butt should not be in playing eleven, I dont know for what reason Sohail is out of the team. He is the best T20 bowler among the lot and he also can Bat, in domestic circuit he bats at no.3 from Pindi. In place of Afridi we should try Sohail, and how much chances will you give to Shahid, I think he palyed 300 odd ODI's and only 2 or 3 innings at his credit. Is this merit? Are we not prducing any talent? These are the simple questions. I think we are far better cricketrs playing in Pakistan domestic, the need is selectors should go out see few domestic matches not just relying on the net practice performances.

  • Imran Zia on June 8, 2009, 11:28 GMT

    Confused and insecure are the words that describe the Pakistani players mindset. In the warm up games we saw Shoaib Malik push the ball for singles when the game was lost and there was no attempt to play an attacking shot. You cant achieve anything when u dont try. We bring in uncapped players and play them readily. We have an in form Fawad Alam warming the benches for nearly two years and not getting any reasonable oppurtunity. The approach is defensive and mind boggling to say the least. Salman Butt's presence in the squad and the inclusion of Rao Iftikhar is worrying. Also why are we saving Misbah Ul Haq for the team needs to know there are only 20 overs in a twenty twenty!

  • Saari Malik on June 8, 2009, 11:27 GMT

    First of all Younis is a very good batsman but not a good captain. i think Shoaib was much better then him, Many of time as a captain he had lead his team from the front. Secondly PCB have to think about there team sellection, there is no aggressive opperners at all. Its a T20 world cup not a five days test they behaive and performed as they are playing test match.

  • Anjum on June 8, 2009, 11:25 GMT

    There is no doubt it was one of the worst performance of Pakistani team... losing doesnt hurt, Pakistan lost t20 final last time, but every one talks about it till now, because they lost with pride and fought till last ball.. I agree, younas khan should not be in T20 team and as of Ahmed shezad and Salman butt, we need imran nazir , abdurazaq back.. but here an important point, which i feel for all Pakistani players is they didnt have much internatinal cricket lately, and most importantly they were deprived to play in IPL.... without any reason.. that is a big thing, they didnt get any competative cricket, it is hard to just go and play international cricket without any match practice!! Why they werent allowed to play in IPL it is still a question???? Poor management is a big problem!!!

  • Imran Sabir on June 8, 2009, 11:25 GMT

    What comments from Skipper, We (T20) are here for fun. On the cost of the Pakistan's defeat and being paid heavily. What a fun ? Better to sit down and sort out problems. With no offence, we have couple of 17 years old they cant handle the pressure of Professional World class players. We need to have a right combination with some common sense decisions from captain.

  • Mabsoos Ahmad on June 8, 2009, 11:25 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, Fantastic article. The problem does not lie with Pakistan Players but with the PCB, the adminstrators who are taking care of Pakistan Cricket. Believe it or not, Younis does not fit into T20 team and he is leading the team. How you can expect this man to be an example for other players?? He is fit only in test cricket not any other format of game. Yesterday, as he confirmed that it is a fun but ask him hundreds of thousands support their team not for fun but for enthusism of cricket. Yesterday's game was full of mistakes, errors and so on. Let me tell you that that T20 is absolute OFFENSIVE GAME whether it is bowler or batter. It starts from the first ball GO. The example is WI, Chris Gayle and his team, they blasted AUS. They demolish them from the first ball. But on the contrary, Younis gave every opportunity to Eng for this win. IN short, ENGLAND JEETA NAHI JEETA GAYA HAI (Eng does not win,were made to win

  • Noman Aziz on June 8, 2009, 11:25 GMT

    I am most disappointed with Younis Khan's captain ship and his inability to inspire his team and supporter - if not through the game than at least through interviews!!! Before the series against Australia, our captain kept saying he and his team would gain good experience and would settle for some good performances. what kind of attitude is this? YOu say that you're stepping in the ground to win. He over rated Australia. In the end Pakistan lost the series not because Aussis were great but it was Pakistan who played below par. The story is no different here. The who of Pakistani nation watching. This guy doesnt give a monkey! the same pessimist attitude. You cant even motivate your team through words you dont deserve to be a captain!!

  • Usman on June 8, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    Pak has no clue what T20 is about. Its 2 overs per player when you are batting. You are aggresive from ball 1. There is nothing like keeping wickets for the end overs. There are no end overs in T20. I am lost for words, why on earth we play Butt in T20, not to mention about his pathetic fielding. We desperatly need Imran Nazir and Razzaq back. Afridi must open the innings aiming to bat around 3 overs and try to make full use of fielding restrictions by playing aerial shots. We dont need Butt trying to play ground shots straigt to players in the first 6 overs of the innings.

  • Vinod on June 8, 2009, 11:21 GMT

    I think everyone is being too harsh on the pakistan team.. Mind you unlike players from all other teams who have had a go in IPL2, the pakistan players were robbed of valuable match practice.. I am from India but as many would agree I grew up watching the great Imran and Wasim.. Teams like pakistan and WI are the ones that bring in the flavor to such competitions.. Don't forget that in th 92 WC, pakistan got bowled out for 74 against england and then came back to win the finals against them in grand fashion.. and BTW no offence, why is everyone murdering younis for speaking his mind and giving an honest opinion.. T20 is fun cricket..Having said that, its kind of sad that one loss can eliminate a good team in this format.. Hopefully pak puts a good show and try their best keeping in mind that they still have a theoretical chance to go through!!

  • imran on June 8, 2009, 11:20 GMT

    May be some one don,t agree but i think shahid afridi should be captain of pakistan team.he is a good fielder and complete bowler,match winner and most important taht he is a fighter and young and can play a longer cricket than younis khan.His record as a captain is excellent in home cricket.and more he is most senior player in paksitan squad.

  • Afaq on June 8, 2009, 11:18 GMT

    everyone is blaming younus khan but the main problem is their atitude they were playing like chasing 85 instead of 185 they are not serious if PCB was serious in wining this tournamnent they shoud have bring imran nazir and razzaq who are proven match winners.

  • Khurram Dawood on June 8, 2009, 11:18 GMT

    That happen when u left out your best player like shohail tanveer is not inn 11 ????

    And dont forget Imran Nazir, Abdul Razaq, Nasir Jamsheed, Naveed latif, Kamran ( Sialkot ).

    These should have been in T20. Pour Amir M who will bes great bowler but they are wasting him in Twenty20.

  • Ali on June 8, 2009, 11:17 GMT

    Coach need changing, I thought Younis Khan would be a captain who fights till the end and shows passion and we were all wrong about that too. Captain needs to be reviewed, even Shoaib Malik was much better as a captain.

    Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Mohammed Yousuf need to be bought back into the squad to replace young Ahmed, Yasir Arafat/Iftikar Rao and I'll let the PCB do some hard work and pick the third person. Even Salman Butt needs to wake up.

    Bring IMRAN KHAN back to put these boys into check there is no such thing as just being FUN in competitive sports if you have such mind set your not sportsminded its all about WINNING. Can someone please forward this to the PAK dressing room...

  • Shahid on June 8, 2009, 11:16 GMT

    AOL. This Pak team reflects the state of the current PCB administers, as Kamran Abbasi says, forget the inapt fielding,the Captain,total lack of awareness of the situation when batting & the attitude of the players.I was at the warm up match at Trent against SA. When the Aus V Bangladesh match finished, the whole of the SA squad ran on to the ground and within minutes they were warming up, field drills that were seriously dangerous for an ordinary cricketer. Where were the Pakistanis!!! 15 mins later the coaches, Mr Alam and My Aqib walked to the wicket, no players to be seen. The Pak training guys could not find a place for the bowlers to warm as the SA were everywhere. 20 mins before the start of the match 1 by 1 the players came and started to train. The fielding coach, I think, have they got 1?, would underarm the bowl to the player who would leisurely jog to the ball and throw it back.It was embarrassing to see them next to the SA's.This is the end of the Pak team as we knew it.

  • nomi_khan on June 8, 2009, 11:15 GMT

    Why they did not give chance Fawad alam ..Any biased against him??

  • Mira on June 8, 2009, 11:14 GMT

    The way Pakistan played the warm up matches and yesterday have seriously put me off this T20 cup. Their way of playing has forced me to start supporting Sri Lanka. I just hope we don't lose tomorrow's match.

  • yasir khan on June 8, 2009, 11:13 GMT

    younis khan's attitude towards this tournament is a disgrace. when asked why pakistan were playing slowly he said they needed to preserve wickets. why can't they open with afridi? they should have also batted first. here is my team for match against holland:

    shahid afridi kamran akmal shoaib malik misbah younis khan fawad alam yasir arafat sohail tanvir umer gul mohammad amir saeed ajmal

  • Sarfraz on June 8, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    The problem with england is they are only thinking about the ashes. But with pakistan its the world cup 2011 these days.

    Who plays two 17 year old youngsters in a cruch match!!!!! Pakistan.

    Which teams sits out the best bowlers of previous IPL for a 17 year old!!!! Pakistan.

    Who takes off the spinner and bring back fast bowlers, when brakes were put on england batters!!! Pakistan.

    Who brings out the test batsmens like salman butt and younis khan in the first 6 overs. And keep the big hitters like afridi, misbah, etc for when the field is spread out!!! Pakistan.

    Pakistan are still playing in the mould of 50 over match. Saving wickets at the start. What was the coach talking about when he said team was well prepared. And the psychologist helped.

    And to add salt to the wounds our team captain calls it FUN cricket. They dont really deserve to win against holland with this attitude. I dont mind pakistan losing, but how they are losing is what's hard to swallow.

  • Nawaz on June 8, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    When all is said and done, this is only a game. OK people are dissapointed, but so what?

    I stopped caring about Pakistani cricket when they were destroyed by Australia in the 1999 world cup final, having only managed to score 132 runs.

    To be honest, the bottom line is that they are a bunch men that don't have real jobs, and just run around playing hit and catch with a ball.

    Let go, trust me, you will feel better - especially you (in the comments above) that is currently taking exams - they are much more important.

  • imran on June 8, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    we should not expect so much by this team.How a team can win when its match winners are out of the squad. why they not picked the best performers in the team from domestic t20 tournament.Salamn butt is not a big player than sachin tendulkar but we saw indian dropped him bqz he is not suitable for such a version of cricket.and more i think there is no best opener in pakistan t20 more than imran nazir.and if we remember the last world cup imran nazir and hafeez opened and they did well. bqz both of they got the ability to runrate going fast.Any how i am astonished by the coach and captain that in which way they want to get the advantage of afridis ability.why he is not being given oppurtunity as an opener.why sohail tanweer and fawad alam who performed really well in last t20- world cup,s semifinal against newzealand and more he is a good fielder also.why pcb pay to intikhab alam a huge salary.if he don,t know how he has to use his players.

  • MOHAMMED ABDUL BARI on June 8, 2009, 11:09 GMT

    sorry to said that, this is not real cricket player of paki teams he should learn more and more for t20 format, big mistake from captain which is not thinking well before the match look indian team if they lose even match they are thinking and planning for next match where is mistake how they improve game

    supportor waiting for match becuase of lose

    lose or win that is game but they way of play paki that is not a way to close they match

    i thing big mistake also for coach and cap yk is not undestand what is t20 format, why they are not undestand this is world cup match every match is important if he like country name in cricket, then they should be undestand and thinking more they mistake

    i am indian i like indian t20 format policy and captain planning they should accept he's mistake

    why they not used more coach every dept. like feilding, batting, bolling such like indian team or other team

    paki coach is old planning and he teach also same thing in pratice also

  • Vijay Bharat on June 8, 2009, 11:08 GMT

    Many of the Pakistani friends here are being too harsh on their team. Yes, the fielding was poor and the run chase could have been better planned but they deserve better support. After all, you have to remember that they have not had enough international cricket practice for many months now. If replacing one bowler with another yielded wickets, you would jump into calling the move brilliant. Afridi, in pretty much all the games that he plays, throws his bat around with hardly an ounce of responsibility. If you guys are willing to take the gamble of seeing him play then you should also give your team and captain a chance to take their own strategic gambles. Instead of making Gods in one game and demons in the next like our friends in India, why don't we just treat them as cricketers who will have their good days and bad days? May the best team win.

  • Rags on June 8, 2009, 11:08 GMT

    I think this will be a wake up call for these guys. Typically Pakistan plays well as a team only when they lose and look pathetic and fighting with each other. Based on younis's comments on akmal and butt - that seems the case here. typically minnows dont play well 2 games in a row - so rain willing - pakistan should win and get into the 2nd round. Also - 2nd round opponents(NZ, SL, Bang) are not that great. So there is a very good chance of Pak making the semis and then its anyone's game. India has a tougher route btw - SA(my pick), Aus/WI and England - so right now expecting a India/Pak semis - i think India has to keep its end of the deal more than Pak does. just a parallel thought :-)

  • Saad Tariq on June 8, 2009, 11:07 GMT

    YK's attitude has been non-serious not only in t20 but all forms of the game. He is almost always seen casual and laughing at slip ups in the field. He does not have the qualities of a good leader, not cricketing brain and the team selection is totally aweful, why in the world do we stick to constant failures like Yasir Arafat and Ahmad Shahzad, IPL guys like Razzak and Nazir should have brought in considering their form in ICL and also in domestic T20, atleast they are more serious about the game. I am afraid if we have YK and the current PCB management running the affairs of PAK cricket then it is the begininng of the end if not the end already for PAK cricket.

  • sinspider on June 8, 2009, 11:05 GMT

    Though I am an Indian, I love to watch Pakistan in cricket. But I felt ashamed to watch them stoop to abysmal levels on Sunday. I dont mind a team losing, at last it is a game. But to lose without a fight is a total disgrace. Never in the 20 overs of Pakistan innings did I feel that there is a chance for Pakistani victory. The fielding looked worse than galli cricket. The less I say about Afridi's batting, the better it is. His blind swinging seems to be getting better day by day, and the bat seems to be avoiding contact with the ball even further. I feel sorry for Pakistan and for its fans.

  • Usman on June 8, 2009, 11:03 GMT

    Rahil Don't take day off, its forecasted heavy rain tomorrow. But i know you will bcoz canot resist temptation like me. :)

  • Umair on June 8, 2009, 11:02 GMT

    One thing I forget to meantioned yOu lose or win you are ours.. This is the time to prove the world.. Wakeup our lions and try to win the title,, in any case nation is with you our heros.. but don't giveup easily.. we are prould of you... win or lose is part of play.. but give your 100%%%

  • tmksk89 on June 8, 2009, 11:02 GMT

    100000000% correct Shafi best thing for Afridi is to open.if he can just clear the 30yds circle in first 6 overs,he can easily score boundries which will eventually give him confidence.And Salman Butt is a good player.His problem is that he doesn't try to take singles. Pakistan must go to the next round.these players must not tarnish the image of Pak cricket created by the legends like Imran Khan,Javed miandad,Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis

  • Amjad Shehzad on June 8, 2009, 10:59 GMT

    All these above comments are true because Pakistanis live with cricket. They love cricket. They sacrifice their sleeping time to watch the their team playing well. Losing is not an offence but not playing for winning is an offence. There is nothing much wrong with the team but there should be appropriate playing eleven selection which is not there. Fawad Alam has the best domestic rating in domestic cricket and an ideal choice for T20. Why is he being ignored? On English tracks, spinners are doing well and he is also a very good batsman in the lower middle order. Afridi should take bold decision to open the innings. Make the right selection and play according to the situation. What is the trick in it? Where is the Psychologist who trained this team. Why is Younis Khan always smiling and laughing as there is nothing serious happening and all this is a fun. PLAY, PLAY WELL AND DONT BE AFRAID OF LOSING! I M SURE YOU WILL WIN!

  • Varun on June 8, 2009, 10:59 GMT

    I am an Indian and i was really disappointed when pakistani cricketers were overlooked by everyone else in the last year or so (whatever may be the reasons). I think pakistan team is one of the most exciting teams to watch. I was really hoping for a huge performance by them just so that they could stamp their authority in the world of cricket again. but last nite was such a disappontment. poor poor bowling and fielding. i did nt even watch the second innings when they batted.

  • Ali Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 10:58 GMT

    By the look of things, it will rain on tuesday, and i dont think we're gonna make it to the super 8. Even if we do, the team is awful to say the least. There are a few things we could do though.

    1) Shahid Afridi (Open with the guy) 2) Shahzib/Butt/Shahzad (Play anyone, they all in the same boat) 3)Shoaib Malik (He bats at 3 for Sialkot) 4)Misbah (Your best 20/20 player, needs to bat up the order) 5)Kamran Akmal (He might be out of touch but he may fire soon) 6)Fawad Alam (Lets try this kid out, no expectations from him though) 7)Younus Khan (You dont have an option but to play him) 8)Sohail Tanvir (His bowling hasnt been great off late, he needs to prove himself) 9)Mohammad Aamir (He is inexperienced, but i would still play him over Rao) 10) Umar Gul (No more smiles please, time to get serious) 11) Saeed Ajmal (Needs to start catching)

  • Arfan on June 8, 2009, 10:56 GMT

    Pakistan, probably one of the hardest teams in international cricket to support! So many fans would have been upset with pakistan's performance in the warm-ups, and against england, a team tht only won against zimbawe in the inaugural edition wc t20 2007... and theres younis khan the pakistan captain calling it 'fun' after hsi team just lost miserably to england. At the end of the day, what pakistan needs is a leading and more importantly a competitive captain like the legend Imran khan to lead from the front taking the sport as something serious, playin with pride for his country and winning for his fans, not someone who just shrugs their shoulders after a crushing defeat, and calling the the new format as "only fun".

  • khurram Humayun on June 8, 2009, 10:53 GMT

    Pak lost due to less cricket i agree, but what about the talent needed to win T 20 games thats no where, players like younis,butt, misbah are not born hitters, we need born hitters like imran nazir, razzaq.I know my suggestions wont be read by PCB or players but i want to make one point if we want to play with out of sort afridi then we have to let him open the innings to make use of first 6 overs.

  • Saleem Shah on June 8, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    Leaving your best domestic batting talent (read fawad alam) is simply out of my understanding.

  • Rauf on June 8, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    Someone above said that Pakistanis go to extremes after a single win or loss. How true. Chill out people, this is only a game. Yes their performance was disgracefull and yes PCB are bunch of morons but that does not mean we should hang them for one defeat.

    Immediate concern... try to get past Netherlands. We are talking about a country least known for it's cricket prowess and if Pak can't even do that then it's just RIP Pak cricket.

    Long term... Get the banned ICL players back into the mix. Fix domestic structure and get some capable people to run PCB.

  • Arif on June 8, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    To be honest our team have been on the downward spiral for about 3 years now. Points of interest (well at least to me if not the PCB) 1. We do not have the power hitters to make the most of the first 6 overs, we cannot compare to Gayle, McCullam, Warner, Gibbs, Smith, Shewag... I could mention 3 players from all other countries except my own. We need Imran Nazir, Rana Naveed, Imran Farhat(not a big fan of him but his better than the rubbish we have now) and Razzaq.

    2. We need brains, why bat second when chasing is your weakness, duckworth lewis is a rubbish excuse.

    3. We needed to reach about 160 minimum so that the run rate was not so bad, but no effort.

    4. Fielding and catching, well lets not go there.

    5. And im not sure if anyone has noticed but our bowling appart from Gul and Afridi, get battered in all forms of the game, one good performance is a fluke so that don't count.

    5. Captain big problem, his mentality is not match winning.

  • Younis Khan on June 8, 2009, 10:51 GMT

    I must say that it is quite easy to criticize and give suggestions. But playing in the ground under such huge pressure when every eye is over you, is quite a different scenerio. Anything that was planned or strategies that were made, were to win the game. The only matter is that we didn't win the game, otherwise comments from u all ppl had been different!!

  • Vinod on June 8, 2009, 10:46 GMT

    it seems that the pak batsmen except misbah has not taken t20 that seriously and it is not good for the team to send him lower down the order. but i believe they will somehow get back to super 8. i want that so that my team will be able to beat them again and again and again....

  • Harish on June 8, 2009, 10:46 GMT

    As an indian fan i want pakistan to reach the super8 so we can have a crack at them. But this is looking more unlikely if pakistan continues with a poor captain. Malik like him or hate him is much better captain and took paki to the final.These are the things pakistan has to do 1)tanvir and the new kid open the bowling with gul coming first change.2)younis and mailk has to come 3 and 4 in the batting order.3)arafat has to be dropped (period).4)has to improve fielding by 200%.5(optional) afridi can try opening,anyways he hits nothing down the order and thats were he started his career since butt has been woefull. If younis is brave enuf to make these changes he will win comfortably against holland(in all due respect they are still minnows).

  • simon on June 8, 2009, 10:46 GMT

    it was a poor display by paksitan.Afridi should have been promoted top the order and belt few sixes. a lot need to be desired on the captiancy of YK. It was a spineless display.

  • Ahmer on June 8, 2009, 10:45 GMT

    Another tournament about to finish and another outstanding display of cricket from Fawad Alam. \NOT. the poor bloke doesnt get a go in the team for god knows how long. What did Misbaj say in the series against Australia, we gave FAwad a chance because he has been waiting so long for a turn. No merit in his selection. they prob. access this site so lemme ask them, what merit do they have in being selected in the team in front of a guy who boasts such an impressive domestic average with batting above 50 for all forms of the game. Pakistan cricket is going to rue, letting another talent pass by. Nasir Jamshed another example. He has been the best of the new openers that Pakistan has tried. But PCB dont like him. According to them he wont be fit enough for this tournament. What do we see. He played in all the practice shit and domestic tournament. Pakistan is going to rue messin up the combo that Malik and Lawson had going. Fire Inti and Ijaz B. We cant afford to have 70 yolds run PCB.

  • Muhammad Yousuf Ali on June 8, 2009, 10:42 GMT

    Another silly decision took by the Younis Khan as per the History we are not good in run chasing. Why he take chance although he won the toss. Why did he not choose bat. I think he did not learn lesson from the match of South Africa and Scotland where SA made huge total of 212.

    It's not only very bad performance but also showing unwillings of our cricketer's specially in the fielding.

    Selectors of PCB Should also take serious action.

    Muhammad Yousuf Ali Karachi, Pakistan

  • khurram on June 8, 2009, 10:41 GMT

    salman should be dropped immediately. his away record is dredful. he cant play a proper cricketing short on legside. younis is clueless as far as any strategy is concerned. there is no coach/expert advise is available. bowling is too too wayward. there isnt any defined guidelines which the bowlers have to follow. misbah should bat 2 down. kamran should open and batsmen should fire from the start.

  • Yasir godil on June 8, 2009, 10:40 GMT

    I think Pakistan will have to participate in ICC World T20 qualifiers round to qualify playing World Cup Lolzz

  • Bilal on June 8, 2009, 10:40 GMT

    pathetic display by pakistan in every department...bowling apart from saeed ajmal was below par and lacked any creativity needed in 20-20 apart from a few yorkers by gul which were super...fielding was again WAY below par and pakistan really need to improve in this front if they want to improve as a cricketing side or go up the rankings...i mean 4 dropped catches in a 20-20 can easily lose you the match... and finally the batting which was against very mediocre...at some points i thought they were playing it as a test match, ambling for singles and not even having a go...only one six in the whole innings sums up my point

    they certainly have made it really hard for themselves to qualify now needed to win by atleast 25 runs or with 3 overs to spare and if netherlands play like they did against england and if pakistan play like they did against england, then i can regretfully only see one outcome

  • Amjad on June 8, 2009, 10:38 GMT

    Its the same story, and has been the same for quite a few years now.

    Regarding their batting... 1) Pakistan openers are not fit for the job, they NEVER have any decent partnership, and usually BOTH of them will fail. No one in Pakistan cricket can handle the new ball. 2) The middle order, Younis Khan and Shoib Malik, ALWAYS play as if it is a 50 over match and score at a rate of 5-6 runs per over, resulting in the team score being a pathetic one. 3) Pakistan relies heavily on the tail to come to the rescue and Pakistan bat well in the final few overs to set up a a semi-decent target. If the tail fails, we get HUMILIATED.

    Regarding the bowling... 1) The opening bowlers always get smashed around the park as if they were part time bowlers. 2) The spinners pull it back for Pakistan. 3) The fast bowlers (who got smashed in their first overs) then return and suddenly realise that they are allowed to bowl yorkers, change their pace etc and bowl well enough to restrict the opposition.

  • Venkat on June 8, 2009, 10:34 GMT

    Do not take YK Seriously. He said it for "fun". Life is short and everything should be taken lightly...I am sure that is what he meant..But the sad part is, he even takes his fans as fun...Common YK...Even if you are right, dont you know what to say and what not to say in a public press conference.In my opinon, a captain who does not know even that much cannot lead a team. You do not need cricketing brains for that...Matter of simple commonsense. You never say something that will hurt the feelings of your fans.As simple as that.

  • Usman on June 8, 2009, 10:32 GMT

    I gave up my pre-scheduled preparation for CFA exam for the match but ended up being sorry to myself. Miserable unit, losers. I would not give them benefit of doubt for having less competitive encounters over a last year or so. They even did not show intent to hit sixes, miserable. What the hell Butt is doing in T20 can't even play a hook or pull. I would have fetched back Imran Nazir, Razzaq and Rana Naved, atleast would have made the contest competitive though. Would not even bother to glare tuesday match!!!!!!!!! but i am afraid cannot resist my temptation.:)

  • tayyab on June 8, 2009, 10:28 GMT

    I personally think pakistan should open with Afridi now. You are in crucial situation anyway so go for it. He is aggresive batsman who is stuggling so try him as a opner. Bring in Fawad Alam for one of the opners. Both of them are rubbish. And Sohail Tanvir for Muhammed Ammir as he can Bat as well.

  • syed rayan on June 8, 2009, 10:28 GMT

    Well, after losing against england with such a big margin you can think of how bad the current pakistani team is. salman butt is never a t 20 player and he plays just on the off side even to the balls that can be easily flicked or glanced. the captain younis khan is also not worth plying t 20. in t 20 we need players that can just steal the game away from opponents or atleast openers. it is a big event and we are still experimenting, a young inexperience player ahmad shehzad opens for pakistan, this is rubbish. the team that we had in 2007 was far better than this with two really good t 20 openers. we need players like imran nazir. we have afridi but i dont know whats the matter with him he is too scared with his bating. he has become now a spiner not an all rounder. but i still think he shud open for pakistan.

  • Raihan Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 10:27 GMT

    I have to wake up early in the morning as I take my younger daughter to her school. Last night I witnessed the match with an expectation to enjoy a high drama match though it was tiring for me to wake myself until 2 AM.

    I could not believe myself to see the activity/performance of Pakistan team. First of all body language was totally negative, next the fielding. It was hard to believe that they are representing a country where exciting cricketer like Zaheer Abbas, Asif Iqbal, Imran Khan, Javed Miandad, Saeed Anwar, Ameer Sohail, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Inzammau Huq have played.I am a Bangladeshi but still I feel that it was a shame for the Pakistan cricket. Pakistan is always loved by their fans for their exciting characters and thats why people like me has been fan of Pakistan for a long time. No fighting attitude, determination and it is odd to see when Younis Khan laughs even his team is in dire condition--horrible. Please do not heart the Pakistan cricket fan. Raihan Ahmed

  • Samir Ali on June 8, 2009, 10:26 GMT

    For all Who want to knw abt pakistan's chances to go through the super eights.

    If Pakistan bat first They need to defeat Netherlands by minimum of 25 runs, if not their world cup campaign is over

    If Pakistan bowl first They should restrict Ned to as min as possible and need to reach the target with atleast 18-20 balls to spare.

  • Jahan Zada Buneri on June 8, 2009, 10:24 GMT

    The only reason that we lost match is our captain's mistakes after mistakes to use our players. Amazing to see that he won toss and gave batting. Arfat, Aamir both are youngsters and they are giving chance to both in same match. I never see that he is sensible captain. For him recommendation is from Imran Khan. I think Afridi or Misbah, any one is better choice than him. Afridi is All rounder, his batting style is risky. I does not mean that he cannot tackle the pressure of captaincy. I think both are two different tasks. He is unable to understand that Kamran is not regular batsman and he is sending him after opening position. Take example from Imran who lead from the front in 1992 even he was not specialist batsman and you are specialist and you are not taking full responsiblities of batting. Why you not come at no. 3. Misbah batting average is 48 and he came at lower order.

  • Saad Siddiqui (Fan cum Analyst) on June 8, 2009, 10:20 GMT

    If Pak want to win, they should throw out all experiment players and should bring in "specialist bowlers and batsmen" who can score runs/ take wickets. Having 3 allrounders (Arafat,Afridi,Malik) is UTTERLY USELESS if all 3 are failing in both batting and bowling, INSTEAD they should have a specialist bowler/ batsmen who could atleast perform. Arafat,Shahzad,Amir should be REPLACED FOR GOOD with Rao, Tanvir, Fawad. Rao is experienced and economical and gets wickets because of putting pressure, Tanvir has genuine T20 ability (although his recently bowling stats are ordinary but he is awefully better than Arafat or Amir) and Fawad is a proven solid batter who can also bowl. These 3(Rao,Tanvir,Alam) can contribute 10 times more than what Arafat, Shahzad and Amir can.

    Lack of talent can be forgiven. Agreed. but lack of commitment can never be!

    We should have sent our U-19 team atleast they would had fighted to win!!!!

  • Sajjad Ahmad on June 8, 2009, 10:19 GMT

    Well, we have seen great time of Imran khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar and Inzi. The current team is disappointing the nation and Fans. I would say, Sports Ministry should ban the Cricket Team from taking part in the international Cricket. they should play domestic cricket only.

  • sheraz on June 8, 2009, 10:18 GMT

    Just one word to sum up Pakistan’s performance "disgraceful"… why the likes of Ahmed Shehzad, Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik are playing and T20 specialist such as Imran Nazir, Abul Razzaq and Rana Naveed are out of the team is beyond comprehension!!… PCB … Pathetic Cricket Board.

  • Faiz Khan on June 8, 2009, 10:17 GMT

    hi guys, Firstly I wud like to say that I was probably the craziest fan of our team- Repeat "WAS". As most of you have mentioned, it like i will play who i want to & not who deserves to. Players like Nasir Jamshed have been left out & we have picked ahmed shahzad & shahzaib hassa. I have nothing against new talent bt there is a time & place to do it & a World Cup is not the place for that. Also if any of u remember 2006 U-19 finals Pak was able to defend 110 aganst an indian team which had Rohit Sharma & Suresh Raina. These players play for India today but what about player like Anwar Ali ( Man can he swing-go to youtube & check it out) Bottom line:- Younis no way capable as Captain - And cmon - you rest Sohail Tanvir & play Yasir Arafat!!

  • Krishna on June 8, 2009, 10:17 GMT

    Its thoroughly disappointing to hear Younus's post match comments about his perspective about the T20 tournament.I don't think he has ever realised the fact that this format has gained a lot of importance in the modern cricketing era.It has evoked a large number of support for all teams all over the world.I understand that the pakistani supporters would be very unhappy about the team's performance and the captain's comment.....

    I still wonder the batting line up is improper.Afridi is always a better player when he opens the innings.That would be a huge morale boost if he gets going.The top order is just not clicking well and with the introduction of Shoaib malik and younus, the run rate dips down further. Somebody has really got to knock some senses directly into the head of these players.

  • Ahmer on June 8, 2009, 10:17 GMT

    Mr Younis Khan this is World Cup not a Jokes I could almost predict what ball you were doing to sweep. I think you should not be in the T20 team. Some please send this team back and call the Lahore Badsha from ICL to take part in the tournament ... yesterday's match was a disgrace specially the comment Mr.Younis Khan made after the match . Afridi when was the last time you made a 50 in international cricket .... Its high time he should be retire. Why was Suhail tanveer kept out of this crucial match . Give this same team to Shane Warne and see what magic he can do with it . Mr.Khan you should resign as captain.

  • Imran on June 8, 2009, 10:17 GMT

    The next T20 team should comprise of the following: -Imran Nazir -Imran Farhat -Abdul Razzaq -Misbah Ul-Haq -Shoaib Malik (Captain) -Kamran Akmal -Fawad Alam -Rana Naved -Umer Gul -Sohail Tanvir -Saeed Ajmal

  • Samy on June 8, 2009, 10:15 GMT

    During the 2003 World Cup when India lost the first match, fans across India went on a rampage and the team management asked Sachin Tendulkar to make a statement. After that match Sachin played the best cricket till the Final. We need a player like Sachin to instil confidence both with the Pakistan public and also to the team members. The ideal person to do it is Misbah. He is very composed and an intelligent cricketer. He should play an innings like how Sachin played against us in the 2003 world cup and take our team to the super 8. Now that the team has been selected, the management should select the best possible team and go for a kill. Sohail Tanvir, Mohd.Hafeez should definitely play. Good players should come up the order. Playing in England with ball moving around require special skills and youngsters will find it difficult. Afridi should not go for big hitting every time. He should have his eyes set in and go for the big ones. Let us all wish our team.

  • Rai Saquib Zia on June 8, 2009, 10:15 GMT

    I personally think that Pakistan is losing because of the captaincy of Younus Khan . He is always showing his teeth even after a misfield so this would not encourage the rest of the team to field well. They would keep on fielding miserably and this would cost some 20-25 runs to our team and would change the whole match. e lost to England because of our miserable fielding . And one more thing, why is Shoaib Malik in the team , he cant bat , he cant bowl so what is the purpose of him being in the team.

  • Dil Dil pakistan on June 8, 2009, 10:14 GMT

    I know the performance yesterday was well below par but inshalah tommorow if the match is played we should win convincingly. possible batting line up AFRIDI SHAHZAIB AKMAL YOUNIS MISBAH MALIK ALAM TANVIR GUL AJMAL AMIR/IFTIKAR

  • Kiran on June 8, 2009, 10:14 GMT

    Hi I am from India. There were some silly mistakes which cost pak heavily, Umar should have been given one more over and the result could have been different. Afridi should open. Any way he is lottery, lagi to lagi. Tanvir is a must.

  • atif majeed on June 8, 2009, 10:11 GMT

    come on guys be supportive in my point of view only problem is PCB not the players. they ban ICL players due to BCCI presure. They didnt send their players to participate in IPL. andpakistan has played only few international games in last 1 year. and you guys thinking that they will win. stop living in dreams. i bet bring back imran nazir, razzaq, yousuf, mohammed asif and you will c the performance.

  • ahsan on June 8, 2009, 10:11 GMT

    I was at the game yesterday, what a brilliant atmosphere and loads of banter between pak/eng fans! It was a pity the cricket team didnt back up the thousands of supporters that made an extra effort to show their love for the country. If younis thinks 20/20 is for fun, why did the team work so hard last time to get to the final? Salman Butt is a joke he cant field or bat to save his life. Imran Nazir/Fawad Alam were on batting form in the domestic 20/20, why werent they in the squad? Why are they leaving out Sohail Tanvir who neither England/Holland have faced in the past? I dont expect us to go through to the super eights, with pakistan its best not to have any hopes at least we wont be left dejected! I saw a sign in the crowd saying England got Tango'ed by Holland....Pakistan got Pepsi'ed yesterday! "Cheerio...Cheerio" was the chant when we were leaving towards the exits

  • Kashif Rehman on June 8, 2009, 10:11 GMT

    Pakistan lacking in planning the game. they dont know who to open the innings who comes next in the same case as to bowling. openers Salman butt just play like a talender. they need to bring in some fresh blood i.e. Fawad Alam to open the inning with Kamran Akmal or Afridi may be the other choise Misbah should bat up to the order, where is Sohail Tanveer. selectors please wake up what r u doing. millions of people watching they are paying thier time and money. this is not the game only this is revival of criket pakistan please make right choices.

  • ALI ABID on June 8, 2009, 10:10 GMT

    spirit of team is very bad.Butt have no range, shehzad has no agression(see his 1st class record),younus is player for Tests only,people dont like him in ODIs even, how can see him in t20,shoab plays like Saleem Malik used to play in his last days when he used to score 40-45 runs & secure position in next match regardless of match situation same thing shoab malik is doing.yasir arafat never impressed on Internaition sceen but still plays often which m not able to understand. shahid afridi is again not more than a bowler now. fielding is below club standard even.with such performance u can't blame weather,condition or lack of cricket. these r profession cricketers, they r being paid by pakistani supporters.they can't smile after dropping catches.

  • Zakir Khan on June 8, 2009, 10:08 GMT

    I watched a Pakistan game after a long time.the last time i watched a Pakistan match was in 2007 World Cup against Ireland & i guess it has gone from bad to worse afterwards.i honestly don't know whether they have won anything in between the last more than two years.to me the sight of Pakistan lossing everything has become quite too fimiliar now.terrible defeats at the hands of below average teams ceased to surprise me any more.its exit from the first round of the major tournaments is also not a big surprise anymore.controversies and more controversies seems to be the other name of Pak cricket. this team looks completely out of sorts.the way they field and bat is simply a disgrace.i can't call this bunch proessional cricketers.in T20 format our batsmen looks like test players & vice versa.i used to be a die hard cricket fan of Pak cricket.i don't thing i will garner the courage to watch this patheic side again in future and i am sure it will be true for many millions more like me.

  • Ranjan Mathur on June 8, 2009, 10:08 GMT

    I am an Indian and I have always had pakistan as my second favorite team (India natuarally being the favorite). I have been hugly disappointed by the way the team played. Kamran Bhai is bang on target in his analysis. I had expected a Pakistani team charged up to prove to the world what it is missing out on.

    I think pakistan cricket has been hurt the most through ICL. But then so was NZ and they came back by developing a team that has now the potential to go all the way. i think there is seriously something wrong with YK, at least be gracious when u lose rather he prefers to show as if they do not take this type of a game seriouly. I think he has forgotten that they were so close to winning the title last year. Its all in the leadership, strong teams have strong leaders and YK must realise that a leader is not just the one who gets to pick the trophy but the one who mentors his team to reach there. Ex. Vettori, Dhoni, Smith etc they got moderate teams which are now world beaters.

  • Shrinivas Venkatesh on June 8, 2009, 10:07 GMT

    Unfortunately, it is a very sorry state of affairs in Pakistan. One cannot help but feel that the managerial scenario in the PCB is the catalyst in this crisis. And the million-dollar question is, who is the most apt captain in Pakistan as of now. Coz neither Malik nor Younis have any command over players, nor are they natural leaders. None of the players are performing. The attitude of seniors such as Afridi is quite deplorable. And it is consequently leading to cracks in the line up. Only God can bail out Pakistan in the current crisis

  • Syed Younus Shah on June 8, 2009, 10:07 GMT

    Nice one Kamran! i am just wondering if its the sports phycologyst who had a one-to-one session with each player just before landing in UK that has done the damage. He was supposed to fine tune them! Anyways, i think this article should be sent to Younus Khan? is it possible?

  • Aftab Haider on June 8, 2009, 10:06 GMT

    It is my heart's wish that we thrash Netherlands and qualify for the S8, but hold on.. for what? to get thrashed by NZ,SL and the others? Lets face it guys, this team is simply not good enough.

    Furthermore,we are just not playing the right combination whether it be bowling of fielding. Yasir Arafat cannot be opening the bowling and Sohail Tanvir is a must (inplace of young Amir). Therfore, I would open the bowling with Tanvir and Umar Gul. Once the six overs are up we can resort to the spinners and use Arafat for the death overs since he is better at that as he possesses a good yorker.

    As far as batting goes, both Salman Butt and Ahmed Shahzad will not be in my batting lineup. We need to open with Kamran Akmal and Afridi (since we have to play Afridi and the only way he will score is as an opener). Misbah needs to bat at three followed by Younis, Malik etc.

    To top it all our overall approach especially the batting needs a major overhaul where we need to show more aggression.

  • Nouman on June 8, 2009, 10:04 GMT

    Pakistan what happend i really belived in u i was watcing that match 1 pm in the morning I really thought pakistan easly go on to beat England but now i dont even think u Pakistan will beat Holland. where his Abdul razzaq , Imran Nazir,Jamshad, Haffeez ,Mohammad Yousuf Mohammad asif if i was the selecter of the pakistan team i would Pick 1 shahid Afridi and 2 Imran Nazir openers, then 3 Abdul Razzaq, 4 Younis Khan 5 Misbah ul Haq 6 Mohammad Yousuf the Malik Kamran and jamshad, Haffeez and for bolwers Mohammad Asif Sohail Tanvir umar Gul and saeed ajmal and all rounders Abdul Razzaq Haffeez shahid Afridi and my Coach Wasim Akram

  • Omer on June 8, 2009, 10:03 GMT

    I hope the team management reads these comments and includes tanvir and fawad alam.... and i hope rain doesnt play a part... and i hope we get rid of the selection board...i can bet you the Lahore badshahs team would have won this match for us...

  • umair on June 8, 2009, 10:03 GMT

    To whom should I blame, entire Pakistani team? Administration? PCB? ICC? I don't know... The display Pakistan showed was shameful for entire nation..I remember it is more than 25 - 30 years now for T20 Cricket in Pakistan and most of the players came through this stage (they played a lot).. I agree they are out of international cricket for such a long time but does not mean they have right to display such a poor performance.. Where is Razaq? Imran Nazir, Sami & Rana.. PCB is not serious with cricket and ICC is supporting the cuase of PCB,,keeping away the international cricket from Pakistan.. Shame of Pakistan team, I never expect such performace from our heros..Wake up now and show the world that we could do anything my hearos,, this is the time.. Now or Never...

  • AAcif on June 8, 2009, 10:02 GMT

    plz guyz pray 4 pak...i know some players of this team not desrve to play for pak.now win is not enough 4 pak....now pak have to win by 20 or more run or if they bat 2nd they have to complete thier target within 17 overz

  • DaddyMac on June 8, 2009, 10:02 GMT

    The reason for the loss is pure and simple, lack of cricket. No IPL, no International cricket. Look at how strong India is..because of the IPL. With that said YK did a few strange things last night. My team would be this. Akmal/Butt/Malik/YK/Mishbah/Afridi/Gul/Tanvir/Kaneria/Ajmal/Amer Yes i said Kaneria...our best spinner should be in the team..look at warne and kumble in the IPL...Theres enough batting there for 20 overs. Afridi should be lower order playing a role like Morkel does. Akmal is the best batsman in the team by far in ODIs and T20. Just look at the recent performances against Australia. All you guys were overjoyed hailing how Pakistan is the best when they won that series..now your all going crazy...pathetic. These guys are playing their hearts out..its been a hard few years for Pakistani cricket...We all knew England would fire back...Hopefully we can make it to the next stage if not then please dont burn effigies lol

  • TONY on June 8, 2009, 10:02 GMT

    I think the captain's attitude is right on.If you play without tension like i play,it's more enjoyable for the fans.Don't copy the western thinking.Cricket is not merely a game but a reflection and representation of society.So everyone take it easy.You're all raising your blood pressures.Look at the bright side, now the english will follow and make the tournament a success.And that's what all fans really want.

  • Salman on June 8, 2009, 10:01 GMT

    Hopeless team really, just so depressed right now. I don't understand why they didn't send Misbah earlier who is without a doubt their trump card. They never even tried to chase the target down, I was so impressed by the Holland captain's comments on how he would rather take his side to be 80 all out quickly than end up with 130-5 while chasing, thats the kind of spirit Pakistan needed at that point I guess. I don't understand our batting line up, why are all the main players coming so low down the order. YK is a hopeless captain, he missed out on so many key decisions. He is way too cool headed for his own good, when your team is not responding on the field and fielding so poorly, the captain needs to step up, maybe even yell at a player or two to make them realize that they are out there to win. Wasim was so good at that. Hopeless.

  • mat on June 8, 2009, 9:59 GMT

    Somehow everyone seems worried about the lack of aggression Pakistan showed in the match, that's besides the point. Pakistan have always been naturally aggressive and this trait will come back easily.It's other areas about pakistan cricket that worries me. Cricket has changed, become more and more professional. Teams are going into small details like the technology of feilding, best throwing methods, relay throws, running between wickets, different types of slower balls, switch hits etc that will give them the edge in this format. Pakistan unfortunately are still to evolve into mordern cricket thinking. Bringing back ICL players or wishing Imram, Wasim & co were still available is not the answer. Other Asian teams including Bangladesh are trying to evolve into adapting to the changing times and playing 'new age cricket'. Pakistan cricket organization somehow seems stuck in their feudal ways. Forget about the past glories of Pakistan cricket, it's time to move into new ways of thinking

  • Shahid Hussain Soomro on June 8, 2009, 9:54 GMT

    pakistani players have to realise that they are playing T20 not 50 over game yesterday it looked me whether they were playing 50 over game, neither of the players could hit the six what a sham that was! for entire team the player like afridi was struggling he was playing blindly as it was pointed out by one of the commontator during the game infact yes he is a blind player he comes with no stratigy therefore he must be kicked out without any late and he should be replaced by Razzak, and Ahmed Shahzad by Imran Nazeer, Yasir Arafat by Ranna because Ranna is 100 times better than Yasir, he can come on one down as well, as we saw him in ICL batting tremandousely on that position.

  • srocks on June 8, 2009, 9:54 GMT

    Younus gave the ball to Malik in the 6th over, y? When there is Afridi and Ajmal(both specialist spinners)there. Why was Misbah in at 7. Why did Afridi come in before Misbah. Why was Arafat handed a third over after getting smacked, his third over made it easy for england. Why was Amer brought back when Pitersen was in full flow.

  • srocks on June 8, 2009, 9:50 GMT

    First of all: Cant understand this reliance on Afridi as an opener, he (as the commnentator said) is a shadow of his former self (the Afridi that destoryed India at kanpur).His bowling as ever is good, but for me no less than number 8 in the batting order. As for the openers, Abdul Qadir got this seriously wrong. Ahmed Shehzad is too young(he does have the talent) and Butt has a test match menetality. Against Netherlands its time for Akmal to open and either Malik or Younus as his partner. Then you can put Alam in the middle order with Shahzaib Hasan. Younus Khan is no wonderman captain, in fact I saw more hope from Malik,at least he wanted Pakistan to go top. When a captain states that this form of the game is entertainment, then it becomes very clear that he is not here to win but to make sure the audience gets there moneys worth. Wrong statement to make, if that is the case, then why turn up for the tournament? Younus also made some poor decisions

  • Cool on June 8, 2009, 9:49 GMT

    I am an Indian supporter but i'm very much disappointed with Pak performance. They don't have the fire which they used to have when they've players like Imran, Akram, Inzy..The body language of the captain is not good. I don't like Malik as a captain but what i'm feeling now is atleast he tried his best when he captains. Some exceptions r Misbah, Gul.

  • Asif Raza on June 8, 2009, 9:49 GMT

    I beleive they may not get a chance to go through to next round or put the fans into miserable situation as they did in 2007 WC by losing a do or die match against Ireland. There is a seriuos forecast of rain in London tomorrow whole day. Above all mates its recission time in the world and these Pakistani players have lost their jobs in IPL so they are trying their luck by offering services for others rather than their home nation who is now used to abosrb the shock waves. There is a serious shortage of unity amongst players. This tournament could have proved to be a great platform to unite this disgruntled nation.

  • Ashraf Zaman on June 8, 2009, 9:47 GMT

    It was disgraceful after buying tickets months ago, planning how to prepare for the match. I felt no energy in the team during warm up as compared with English team. English players were looking focused with clear in their minds what they had to do and they did it superbly. They were acting as a team. On the other hand, pakistani players showed no energy and they were just a bunch of players not team who was put in the ground so English players can enjoy practicing with them for next matches.

  • Mo Aniz on June 8, 2009, 9:46 GMT

    I'm not a Pakistani, still I like their cricket, but these days they play useless. Everybody knows that in Pakistan lot of inborn talents, thing is no body is playing for their country, playing for individual performance, to secure their place in the team. If there are no politics in Pakistani Cricket definitely there are the world beaters.

  • Ronney on June 8, 2009, 9:46 GMT

    Everyone forgot the Main Culprit of this Team's Result performance.He is,PCB Chairman Ijaz Butt.As pathetic leader like Zardari.In few months,he is giving one after another, Shocking & Chaotic Decsions.

  • amir on June 8, 2009, 9:45 GMT

    imran nazir,razzaq and other icl players who played briallantly in ICL must have brought back into T20 woldcup..the recent team playing in T20 only suits one day 50 over format.Moreover, bowlers in our team are not up to that mark. there shud b shoiab,razzak and gul for pace attack younus ,salman butt amir shud nt be in T20 team.v want hard hitter aggressive bold batsmens and v have got many in our domestic teams also but chance have never been give to them!

  • JMAhmed on June 8, 2009, 9:45 GMT

    Yasir Arfat should be dropped from the team. He is not even to the standard of a club bowler. Imran Nazir, Razzaq and Hafiz should be back. Shoaib Malik should be the captain. YK is nothing but full of himself.

  • Muhammad Waqar on June 8, 2009, 9:45 GMT

    I think we should stop playing cricket. Its enouf, come back pakistani cricket team. Forget cricket. Test cap should be taken from us. My requested to all brother and sister forget cricket part of pakistan team and support other teams. You can support bangladesh atleast they are fighting unlike pakistani they always have issue who should captain and coach. Just Sport ohter team like India,Bangladesh,Srilanak coz they are fight. i ashemed that i m a Pakistani fan.

  • mohammed faizal on June 8, 2009, 9:43 GMT

    i only blame pakistan cricket board for playing politics in cricket.pakistan have produce talented cricketers like imran nasir,farhath,yousuf,rana nveed.razak.why dont you utilise these players.first is countries pride not money.be like india see how they are.pakistan learn some good things from india

  • Shariq Sayani on June 8, 2009, 9:43 GMT

    It was a sad, humiliating and disgraceful defeat. They showed no pride nor character. I am a proud Pakistani but I don't support the captain/leader who represents my country.

    I want them to lose to Netherlands, because they deserve to go, they fought for it against England and hence have earned the right to proceed.

    But I don't blame Younis or the team entirely for it... our whole nations is just going down. We have no sense of personal pride left ... nor do we have the character... we deserve this ... humiliating for me but i admit that we deserve every bit of it.

    How much more embarasment do we need b4 we wake up as a nation???

    Being in love with my country, I still stand by it... but i demand for this captain and coach to be sacked!!!!!!!

    In my opinion best solution is... disband the whole team and cricket board... give cricked board to some private firm and let them run it and start from scratch. and I bet then u will see a better team.

  • Asim Sheikh on June 8, 2009, 9:42 GMT

    I don’t want to repeat the miserable performance of Pakistan team again but one thing I must say that "at the toss Younis said it’s a crunch game of England" and posed that no worries if we lost we have one more game to play, How stupid it was!

    Secondly, in a crunch game like this; teams winning the toss always bat first and he just decided to bowl knowing that we are poor chasers.

    No body tried to reach to a decent total even after realizing that the target is unachievable. Where was the team management? They could have sent somebody to tell Younis about reaching 150 or 160 in order to avoid such a bad run rate. I wish they learn from the past and show some professionalism.

  • FARRUKH NAVEED on June 8, 2009, 9:41 GMT

    What to say we saw our side thrice on a losing side .Captain not realize International T20 saying a FUN game "what about One day series lost to Australia is that a part of Fun also .I think many of the squad has to be drop due to non serious nature plus Coach and Management Ask what type of coach you are nothing happen if u r not there . Sorry i don't have words to say "Really Pathetic.

  • Abbas on June 8, 2009, 9:38 GMT

    PAKISTAN's does'nt know what are they doing, their is no planning, now it is the same situation as thier own country is.... Player's like saeed ajmal, shahzad ( opener ), mohammed aamer should'nt be in t20 team..where is imran nazir, abdur razzaq , mohammed asif..they should also change the batting order misbah should come 1 down..

  • saeed on June 8, 2009, 9:38 GMT

    pathetic absolute rubbish pakistan are much better we can prove it agaiunst netherlands coommmeee onnnn pakistan!!

  • Danish on June 8, 2009, 9:38 GMT

    Complete disgrace and waste of time , moment I came to know that younus has won the toss and put Eng in I knew theres a disaster in the making and guess wat same thing happend , well to be honest our team is not a team it is a bunch of clueless loosers who doesnot know wat to do cause after playing this much international cricket I bet I would have been playing alot better ,I believe this is the time when we should get rid of all the old faces and the PCB management should resign if our team would lose from Holland which is most like to happen.

  • Rahul on June 8, 2009, 9:38 GMT

    I am an Indian supporter but I should admit that even though India won in the warm up match, the match was no fun because the spice of an India-Pakistan competitve rivalry was missing specially from the Pakistan team. Hope they sort out their plans and remember the days of Inzamam,Wasim Bhai,Imran Khan who are legends. We don't want one sided Indo-Pak matches. Bring back the old days :D

  • dr on June 8, 2009, 9:38 GMT

    there is no question that pakistan was below average as wasim akram pointed out in his commentary.its obvious that paskistan team have minmum 3 players who dont deserve to be in T20 games (shahzeb,salman butt and younis khan).as razzaq and imran nazir cancelled thier contracts with ICL they must have been included for this tournament but because of board officials all the pakistan fans have to suffer.i really dont wana see matches with the same pakistan team..they were rubbish and i ll not be surprised if they ll thrown out by the netherland.

  • Muhammad Obaidullah on June 8, 2009, 9:37 GMT

    Secondly, favouritism is another form of corruption and unprofessional attitude where decision maker please their friends and family but don’t think that, this act can cost Pakistan its place in international cricket. Thirdly, the whole cricketing world thinks that Pakistan is unpredictable team and on their day they are unbeaten. I think that is a compliment for enormous talent we as nation possess but I don’t think so we should just keep on waiting for that day. I think Pakistani cricket management and cricketers has to come out of this illusion and start playing professional cricket. I think it is time for Shahid Afridi and Salman butt, either they perform and play sensible cricket or in GREATER INTEREST OF THE NATION just resign.

  • Muhammad Obaidullah on June 8, 2009, 9:36 GMT

    As Imran Khan said you can’t have a floating Island when everything else is drowning. Pakistan Cricket is performing exactly the all other institutions and departments are performing. Therefore, blaming entirely on the team is not right. However, they can undergo some changes and they can keep this island floating despite all the hardships Pakistan is facing. Firstly, Coach Intekhab Alam, I don’t find that person useful, people think that he was the coach of world champion team in 1992. No doubt he was a coach but he was not the decision maker or has anything to do with team performance and team moral, it was their captain Imran khan who played both parts as manager of the team off the field and as captain of the team on field. Therefore, it is very unlikely that Intekhab had anything to do with win of 1992.

  • Aahd on June 8, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    As a Pakistani fan, I am extremely disappointed in Younis's words. Cricket is ALL for the fans and the players. Whether you play Tests, ODIs or T20...it is a niche sport, unlike football. So once you're saying a version of the game, and that too the world cup in that version, is just fun and unimportant you're just as blasphemous as Gayle was when he insulted Test cricket. That was his personal belief though, he didn't say it of his team, couple what Younis said with the demo we got yesterday and the 'fun' is a team attitude. Its an insult to every Pakistani fan and I for one am getting quite sick of the negativity. I thought Younis would change it but no, he either doesn't know what he is saying or he is too much like Malik in his approach. On another note, I dont understand why Malik is playing for Pakistan. He isn't a batsman who has the WILL to hit the ball (not ability, WILL) and he isn't a bowler who can bowl even a couple of tight overs in the middle...what exactly is he?

  • Hafiz M. Zeeshan on June 8, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    Earlier I Wrote that "Pakistan will come back strongly" but it was just a joke. The truth is that Pakistan can't even beat Netherlands because they have a very strong team (atleast stronger than Pakistan).I can bet that Pakistan T20 World Cup is OVER!

  • Fahad on June 8, 2009, 9:33 GMT

    1)Shaziab Hasan 2)Yasir Arfat (Openers) 3)Shoiab malik 4)Kamran Akmal 5)Afridi 6)Misbah 7)YOunis 8)Sohail tanvir 9)Umer Gul 10)Mohammad Amir 11)Saeed Ajmal I can assure the victory (Y) & you will find the diffrence in teeam

  • Danish on June 8, 2009, 9:32 GMT

    You'r absolutely right... Im extremely offended by our Skipper's statement that we are here to have fun... This is completely unacceptable...

    I was dying waiting for this tournament to start, just so my boys can prove to the world who we are! after all the nonsense that happend back home..

    our captain has let us down massively. I am extremely angry and offended by the way the whole team performed and the captain's remarks.

    This is completely unacceptable, the team is not on vacation! they are there to work hard and win.. or atleast put up a fight for God's Sake...

    Imran, Wasim, Javed, Zaheer would be ashamed of you Younis! I was not expecting this from you!

    Danish - Karachi

  • Nabeel on June 8, 2009, 9:31 GMT

    The PCB should now take the ICL players , specially imran nazir, imran farhat , abdul razzaq, rana naveed ul hasan. If PCB denies them a place in the team , the team will never pick up. Also, for T20, salman butt and shehzad have to dropped. Salman butt is not so powerful in hitting the ball out of the boundary. He is a Test batsman and ODI specialist, not for T20.

  • Rizwan on June 8, 2009, 9:30 GMT

    YK has the brain, but not the one a captain needs. Why he always try to see funny sides of every thing. When ball went thru Umer Gul legs he was caught laughing instead of a venomous look and couple of words like Wasim the great use to give or even a flat, chin scratching inzi look. He does not know when to buck up and when to disdain. You buck up for a valiant effort not at lousy fielding.

    I have not seen a single moment where a captain smiles over miss fielding.

  • Raza on June 8, 2009, 9:28 GMT

    Younus' smile and Nero's singing were both disturbing, but maybe that is what Younus learnt from the psycologist.. the psycologist has shown the team how to see humor in humiliation.. we all deserve to see that psycologist!

    To add more fun for Younus, he should be asked to pay for fans' tickets and viewing packages.. then we can all take part in this fun and laugh together.

    Misbah is the only batsman who can see the ball.. not sure what are the rest doing in there.. might as well be playing poker on the pitch.. the results should be same; and, you need no DL method to prove this!

    I think Yasir has been included because of his unique name; he is given the new ball because he is not good with the old ball either. Looking at his fielding, I have a feeling he is not good with the ball altogether; maybe, they should experiment by giving him an orange or something else if it is still worth the time.

    Hope someone can present these comments+article to PCB, Younus and the team!

  • Don Zaidi on June 8, 2009, 9:27 GMT

    Since last 10 years our team has been in the bottom pit. Our cricket will not improve until we don't get educated players. Because cricket has moved from just being a talent game to an intelligent game.

    They didnt need to win yesterday all they needed to do was to make a good 160ish and try to win from Netherlands with good margin. (I am not saying doing so would have been easy but we all know 185 was always too much for an oridanry batting line up)

  • Mihir Shah on June 8, 2009, 9:27 GMT

    I feel Afridi should be dropped. Hes lost his batting strokes. Bowling- initially was tight, that too got trashed towards the end !

  • Adeel Alvi on June 8, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    this is disappointing and shameless. what worries me as pakistan fan is the lack of competitiveness and the body language which they have shown. certainly there was no strategy and gameplan as if they are playing RBS even that was competitive. bangladesh has showed a lot of courage to pose threat to the champions. pakistan need to lift themselves and start thinking from their brains toward the game approach. Gul was their best bowler who bowled a set batsman in his 1st over then he vanished. they look to complete the overs rather than played attacking cricket. i am sure netherlands will come hard and pakistan players will have to held their nervers. here is the calculation i've done for the chances of pakistan going through the super 8s. if pakistan bat 1st they have to beat nether lands by 26 runs no matter what target they give. if netherlands bat 1st they need to reach to that target inside 14 overs on average. waiting for miracle.

  • saleem on June 8, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    The comments given by Younis like if we make top 4 we done best..this is one kind of stupid comments ever...u are there to win...and if some one doing a misfielding then he smiles...this shows the seriousness of captain...if captain doing these thing how the other players be motivated...selection of team is more worst thing to talk...if u cannot make a opening pair then u can bring fawad alam (best domestic T20 performar)..as a opener..if india can open with rohit why we cannot change our openers.....fawad is specialist for T20 ...we can open our inning with him....and lack of decision made by younis like wining the toss and electing to field...and not using the good at the right time.....like instead of yasir, sohail tanveer was a better option to open bowling with aamir....i think he has no any sense how to captain..he has no any mitivation of being a catain...he himself is not a T20 batsman...what else to talk...

  • zaribaba on June 8, 2009, 9:24 GMT

    There was no intent/desire to win the monemt opening pair came in. Pathetic. if the issue is on competence one says, "ok, fine" but they were laughing in field after misfielding and themeselves become THE JOKE. I wonder whether Younis considers himself as good as Imran Khan.....Delusional or no delusional but deliver man....and listen to questions in interview as his answers make me think his IQ is below par as well. At play with a desire to win and let it come out...its soo important for pakistan cricket

  • Rahil on June 8, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    Thanks Israr for your equation. I am thinking AGAIN to take half day off tommorow. The more i stop myself watching pak team, more emotional i get. I think i cant stop myself.

    Rahil Scotland

  • NAZEEM ( SRI LANKA) on June 8, 2009, 9:19 GMT

    i am a pakistan cricket fan from my childhood.the main problem for this defeat is our team selectors and pcb.why they didnt select our icl players.after wasim,waqar,aaqib,sohiab pakistan still not found a good fast bowler.there are lots fast bowlers in u19 & domestic cricket like anwer ali who is best swing bowler after WA,WY,AJ & SA.so please bring anwer ali and our icl players to pakistan squad.if iam the pakistan team selector my squad & and batting oreder for T20 will be, shahid afridi imran nazir shoaib malik misbah ul haq younis khan abdur razzak kamaran akmal rana naved anwer ali said ajmal umar gul

  • Shazheb Abbasi on June 8, 2009, 9:17 GMT

    Almost a year ago all of us were skinning shoaib malik for his inept captaincy and lack of killer instinct. Younis was seen as manna from heaven and was widely touted as the right man for the job. Today sadly we realized that with this kind of attitude and a lack of responsibility displayed by all the senior players we dont have any man for the job.

    Butt and Akmal still bat like they are into their first year of international cricket, Afridi refuses to change his mad hatter technique, youngsters like aamir are left to fend for themselves case in point being no one came over to the youngster when peiterson was taking him to the cleaners. Umar gul could have stepped in to calm the youngster and give him sane advice.

    Younis's attitude is a a far cry from his approach to the game when he made 300 plus against Sri lanka to save the match.

    Last but not the least this is not our best side!! The ICL players need to brought back so that there is more competition in the side.

  • Imran Ali on June 8, 2009, 9:16 GMT

    i think youns khan is a joker and he should not be playing cricket instead he should join circus he is a disgrace to cricket and to pakistan. if you kick younas out of the team every thing will be fine.

  • Arif Zeeshan Butt on June 8, 2009, 9:13 GMT

    Hopeless... that's all i can say at the moment for such ordinary performance by Pakistani team against English team. Our players need to understand the basics first. Our off spinner with having Dosara in his bowling armory pitching bowls mostly on middle & off stamp line is ridiculous.He is Afraid of pitch bowl out side the off stamp where can make stamping chances more alive by using DOSARA. Our leg spinner should learn from young Adil Rashid to pitch bowls up.

    In our playing 11, where is Shohail Tanveer, Fawad Alam, Rao Iftikhar?

    Our Captain should Utilize team accordingly, and should not always relay on stars, instead use right combination for the best interest of team and for the proud nation, PAKISTAN.

  • Inamullah on June 8, 2009, 9:13 GMT

    Three changes needed. Younis, Yaser Arafat, and Salman Butt to be dropped in place for Fawad Alam, Sohail Tanvir, and some other youngster they may have in the team. Maybe then we may be able to win. And, with a captain who is a bit serious, not like some stupid dude who laughs and smiles at misfields and dropped catches.

  • ZUBIN NAIR on June 8, 2009, 9:13 GMT

    Dear PCB, Kindly kick out the below mentioned players from the team: Shahid Afridi Kamran Akmal Salman Butt Shoaib Malik Younis Khan

    Being an Indian i still used to admire the PAK team a lot. Sometimes i felt India needs to learn. But now i proudly say that DHONI and his men are way ahead of Pakistan and are one of the top in the world in all forms of cricket.

    Sad period for Pak cricket. Throw out these useless guys who have some name becos of some games they played century's ago. Bring in the new players and bring in old talent for coaching like we do,. Venkatesh for bowling, Robin for fielding etc.

    RISE FROM THE ASHES PAKI'S. VICTORY IS NOT FAR.

  • adam on June 8, 2009, 9:11 GMT

    I didn't even watch the whole match, I off my TV before I break it. There is only one way to describe Pakistan performance "Shame, Shame, Shame" Pakistan don't deserve to be in super eight. I mean "hello" you guys can't even hit a six in your entire 20 overs. I think days are not far when pakistan will have to play qualifying matches to play in World Cup. Than again why only players, the whole PCB is stupid, the whole management is shameless. If you want to win the match with margin than use your brain if you have. 1. Afridi (Gamble) he might be able to put presure with his batting if he gets going. (He better get going) 2. Kamran Akmal 3. Ahmed Shazad (Openning the inning at the age of 17 might be difficult. 4. Younis Khan 5. Misbah 6. Shoaib Malik 7. Salman Butt (you might wonder why I put Salman at 7. By then the field is open and salman will be able to play is gap shorts rather than playing uppish during 6 overs. 8. Yasir Arafat 9. Sohail Tanveer 10. Gul 11. Saeed

  • Hafiz M. Zeeshan on June 8, 2009, 9:11 GMT

    Don't be so hopeless, I think Paksitan will come back strongly.

  • Shani on June 8, 2009, 9:10 GMT

    Salman butt looks like he is playing for himself not for the country he is not much suitable for T20... for Afridi we need a new Rule in cricket in which 60 times catch or 20 times bowled then batsman would given out then he might work.

  • Aamir Jadoon on June 8, 2009, 9:09 GMT

    Part 2 Secont thing is that whay Yasir Arafat is in the team while you have the Rao IFtikhar Anjum who is easily the most successful bowler for pakistan in the past 12 months and also the wicket like oval which is seaming Rao can be very good bowler in those seaming conditions coz he can swing and seam the ball in both ways so I dont know what is in the mind of team management. and Also you are opening the bowling with the bowler who is less experiences specially when you have the bowler like umar gul in your team I realy cant understand this they have to think on all this.

  • Bilal Malik on June 8, 2009, 9:09 GMT

    Younis Khan, a shambolic captain with shambolic comments. If he thinks its for fun then what the hell he is doing here? so pathetic and unprofessional approach to the game and a delibrate insult to the pak fans. Misbah is the man who is specialized in twenty20. wrong decision to send him on No.7 for batting. somebody needs to tell you dont ask afridi to bowl in england. he just didnt got it instinct and according to devid Lloyds he certainly is living on his past reputation. He can't see the bowl anymore, can't time as well. I think there is no place for afridi. as a whole team i dont see any professionalism. you bloody buy the ticket, go to support them and bunch of cowards dont thing its serious. I blieve all they care about is that they are being paid their match fee. Oh sir we tried, it didn't work, so you see you can't blame us. thank you very much. I would say younis has no place in the 20/20 squad. its not bloody for fun its reall competition out there you bunch of cowards

  • Hibs on June 8, 2009, 9:09 GMT

    How shameful this bunch (Yunus &Co)standing in front of Pakistan national flag when our national anthem was being played, disgraceful!!

  • Malik Asad on June 8, 2009, 9:08 GMT

    Pooooooor show Pakistan Team..... Hay plz team management Y nt we go for Afridi & Kamran for opening the innings at least they have some courage and if they click I have no doubts that the match cld easily be turned into Paki's Favor. So please think +ive and Mr.Intikhab U were the manager when Pakistan won the only triumph in her cricket history Y don’t u adopt Geart Imran’s policy to use ur best as a first option rather then sending players like Salman Butt who himself does not know what to do. Please look into tses line and I hope will do better. I suggest the batting order which may help us.. 1-Afridi 2-Kamran 3-Misbah 4-Malik 5-Yonus 7-Shehzad 7-Fahad 8-Sohail Tanveer 9-Gul l0-Rao 11-Saeed

  • Messy on June 8, 2009, 9:08 GMT

    Pakistan Selection board Is too awfull, where Is Imran Nazir n Abdul Razzaq??? Wht is younis khan STill Doing In the team??

  • Muddassir Niazi on June 8, 2009, 9:07 GMT

    Its such a shame now if you support Pakistan Cricket on any forum. Is it a voluntary activity which does not mean anything to Yonus Khan? Ain't they getting paid handsomely for this disgusting performance? If this is a funny activity for them then they should not be paid even a single penny. we are the nation of 170 million people and these JOKERS unfortunately represent this hugely talented, cricket loving nation. Are they accountable or not? Forget about T20, this team is not good enought for any form of cricket. Trust me, Sialkot Stallions (Pakistan's Domestic T20 Champions) would had been good enough as compare to this team. At least they are T20 specialist. All pacers of Pakistan bowled at a same speed through out the match without any variation and change of pace. No direction what so ever in the field. Hopeless situation. At least our team should have thought about those NRPs who despite all odds came to support them. SHAME ON YOU YOUNUS KHAN AND HIS TEAM.

  • Aamir Jadoon on June 8, 2009, 9:05 GMT

    Well Kamran I think pakistan team management made a huge blunder I wonder where did Intikhab Alam played I mean he has played alot of cricket but still eaither they are brainless or they are not sincere with the country. First of all team selection of playing 11 is totally wrong why Butt and Ahmed Shezad are in the team and why Fawad Alam has been ignored for a long time I mean he is a much better player than Ahmed Shezad and also very handy with the ball as well, Secondly I feel that they are waisting Afridi to send him in lower order because every one knows his weaknesses and best place for Afridi is to open the Innings, with Shohaib malik, because in T20 its just the game of two overs just two good overs can decide the match and I think in first 6 overs we should take a chance with the Shahid Afridi and shohaib Malik you can not win the game by conventional cricket you have to attack. continue..............

  • Tasawar Hussain on June 8, 2009, 9:04 GMT

    T20 needs six hitters to chase a score. Unfortunately in this team no other batsman than Afridi has this reputation and unfortunatley he has worst batting form of his life these days. What the hell Army of officials are doing in PCB if they can not plan and prepare a team for a WORLD CUP. They should accept their failure and leave the job for those who can do it better than them. Please forgive the fans of Pakistan Cricket and stop working on personal agendas to strengthen your jobs at the expanse of Pakistan Cricket. We wait for years for these events and get disappointed either by rift/grouping among players or official's personal liking and dislikings. If PCB would have been strong enough then Malik would not have been able to play like he did in the match. Belive it or not as viewer we observed his attitude, his innings keeping in mind his ability is the prove of his loyality to the Pakistan. Shame on you Malik. If he wants to play as a captain please throw him out of the team

  • Faisal Javed on June 8, 2009, 9:04 GMT

    HELLO EVERYBODY! I loved reading comments by all and most of you are on the right track. Pakistan can only win without Younas Khan. I remember it was the same team in the last T-20 world cup in 2007 which reached to the final of the world cup after putting some remarkable victories in the cards but led by Shoaib Malik not Younas Khan. Pakistan had more tougher matches during that world cup and they had to compete against the best sides of the world but still they managed to reach on the top. It was the same eleven not so different but a good mind leading them. Shoaib Malik has all stats running on his mind and he knew what was his game plan. We are witnessing a total opposite case here in the ongoing world cup as Younas Khan has completely failed in impressing. He has no match plan, no strategy and no thinking going on at all. The match against England is a good example to learn from.

  • Farhan Sheikh on June 8, 2009, 9:03 GMT

    The moment Younis Khan elected to bat after winning the toss, I was sure that we will lose the match. Pakistan is more comfortable while defending rather than chasing. if Pakistan had opted to bat and put a decent score like 150 on the board, England would have crumbled under pressure. But its mind boggling to guess what Younis had in his mind. The other problem with Pakistan is, we are playing test cricketers in T20. Salman Butt & Younis Khan are test players that is reflected in their innings, so we need to get rid of them in T20 if we want to win. Lastly, one thing which was very clear in this match was lack of team plan. There was not a single stage in Pak inning, during which we were going a for win.

  • Asad Iqbal on June 8, 2009, 9:02 GMT

    INSHALLAH TALLAH Pakistan Qualify Super Eight... PAkistan Needs also IMRAN NAZIR , IMRAN FARHAT , Abdul RazzaQ , Younis khan Rubbish captain and he is test match player...

  • Naeem on June 8, 2009, 9:01 GMT

    Younis Khan is completley out of touch. 20:20 is serious business and serious money. The world is gripped by it and this man thinks it is just a bit of fun in the park. He must go and be replaced by a person who takes the game more seriously. It was pathetic to see the skipper laughing when Umer Gul let the ball go through his legs for a four. This just about sums up his attitude to the game i.e its just fun! WAKE UP YOUNIS KHAN YOU ARE IN A WORLD CUP COMPETITION WHERE SUPPORTS EXPECT THEIR TEAM TO REPESENT THEM AND FIGHT NOT JUST SURRENDER!

  • Shabbir on June 8, 2009, 9:01 GMT

    I thin pakistan shud drop Yunis Khan, they won against Australia without Y.K!

    I dont understand why they selcet Salman But?? he cant even hold a bat, he plays very loose shots, and the fielding of Pakistan is extremly poor, seems they eat 2 much parathas!! Y dont they get Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq etc. ICL player, they r just like born for T20, cricket, Am sure Whit the right selection of players and captain aswell, The pakistani team is unbeatable.. but right now they ar 2 fare away from that position!!

    When u look at paki`s face, its looks like they are nervous, it seems like they don`t talk much with eachother. To play in a team, u have to perorm as a teammate, and not just thin about ur position! I hope Pakistan can crush Hollan, I dont know yy, but i still feel pakistan can come back in this tournament!!

  • Nipun on June 8, 2009, 9:00 GMT

    A side with players who don't have much ability,with a captain disinterested in a World Cup(even if it is a T20 WC)-how much more can Pakistan expect ?

  • Arshad on June 8, 2009, 8:59 GMT

    one thing no one has taken into account

    THE WEATHER

    Tuesday's forecast is not great it could mean abondonment "one point each, Pakistan eliminated" or even a reduced game, "5 Over Slog, pakistan's favour, as it will allow them to bridge the gap between the power of Holland and the useless ability of Pakistan" The Shorter the format, the more even the contest becomes. e.g. a 1 minute football game will allow Pakistan to have a flukey goal over brazil and win, 90 mins and no chance.

    maybe the best thign that could happen to pakistan is a abandonment, we can blame the rain and not suffer the ingnominity of losing to India again!

  • Sohaib Khan on June 8, 2009, 8:58 GMT

    Dear All,

    I feel pathetic to see your comments in this thread. I am not supporting Pakistan in this WC but as a Team, i am supporting them.

    Yes, The performance was below standards BUT Pakistan has played less cricket then even Bangladesh from 2007. The whole world including ICC are against of us.

    All Players from other teams are fully prepared through IPL whereas Pakistanis were not there.

    Before asking the questions regarding Pakistan Team, it is more important to ask from ICC that Why India banned Pakis from IPL when it went to SA ? In Corporate World, you can't do this. Listen, IPL is'nt a Indian Tournament. It's a International Domestic Tournament. Bcoz, ICC is supporting the tournament as well as the other teams.

    If we win this tournament or go atleast semis then it will be big slap on the face of all other cricketing nations as the Team (Pakistan) is not playing cricket much from last 2 years is qualified for the Semis without much experience and practice. Thanks

  • shahzad Iqbal on June 8, 2009, 8:58 GMT

    contd.... the playing 11 should be salman, kamran, younus, misbah, malik, FAWAD (the guy needs a chance after his performance in the domestic 20/20), tanvir, afridi (solely as a bowler), umar, saeed and iftikhar/aamer. again the attitud eof the captain has to be positive.

  • Mohammad Sami on June 8, 2009, 8:56 GMT

    For Allah's sake get this Younis khan out of the T20 team. I personally think he doesn't deserve captaincy in any format but this version he doesn't even qualify to be in the team forget about the captaincy.and bring back guys like Razzaq and Imran Nazir and Rana Naved. Plz PCB wake up .Your disgusted captain thinks a world cup is just for fun...............

  • Furqan Hussain on June 8, 2009, 8:56 GMT

    They didn't look serious to me.....They just didn't looked serious.....! When Umar Gul misfielded all team members should have atleast looked him with anger and instead they all were smiling and in the end UMAR GULL WAS SMILING AS WELL....! It seesms like that no one told them as warm up games are finished guys....!

    In the times of Imran Khan and Waseem Akram all players scared of them because if any player mis field they used to torcher them by words. Thats what they required.....!

    Guys....JAB TAK KOI UN KO DANDA NAHIN DEGA YEH SAB AISE HI CHALTA RAHEYGA....!

  • Shahzad Iqbal on June 8, 2009, 8:54 GMT

    unbelievable effort byt pakistan team. hard to explain what has gone wrong for us. few thigns that v can point out to are; attitude of the captain, lack of attacking bowlers with the new balls (u can't use umar gul at the start, as he bowls brilliantly in the middle overs) and the lack of attacking openers. if v compare our team to the 2007 T20 WC, v r missing imran nazir in batting and mohammad asif as the new ball bowler. regarding shahid afridi he is a mandatory player for the team, but v should stop expecting him to perform with the bat, forget bout sending hi as an opener, the poor guy cannot seem to get bat to ball then how do u v expect him to come n play the new ball in english condition. the only hope that appears now for pakistan cricket team in this tournament is to pray for a turn around and a little bit serious attitide from the captain. v have to stick with salman as he can at lekast hold the innings together. the playing 11 should be salman, kamran, younus, misbah,

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 8:52 GMT

    I have lost my job and facing stiff financial crisis. Still I payed £55 to Sky sports to watch the game. Thought it would bring some smile back on my face. What a waste of money....... they didn't even try to chase the score. Don't they know the only way they can make Pakistan proud and convince good teams to play Pakistan is by being No.1 World is playing an evil game of saturating Pakistan and demorolising the nation and our nonesence and pathetic cricketers are happy to be a part of this game. Shame Shame Shame

  • Sul on June 8, 2009, 8:52 GMT

    What the hell was that performance?! WORST I've seen in a long time, no desire! It was like Pakistan have come on holiday! Umer Gul's misfield was followed by laughter from himself but also by the captain!!! This shows the care free attitude that the team have. Also why is Salman Butt opening?! Where is Imran Nazir? He may be unproven at test level or even ODI level but has proven his hitting ability in twenty20! If the PCB are reading, recall some players!!! I've waited two years to see this rubbish!

  • Shafi on June 8, 2009, 8:52 GMT

    Pakistan should play Fawad Alam instead of Salman Butt. Nazir Jamshaed should open the innings with Afridi. The best chance for Afridi to score is definetely during the fielding restrictions. Afridi will be out 100% in the long on when he is asked to bat at no 5 or 6. Anybody wants to bet? Sohail Tanveer should share the opening spell with Aamer and Gul should follow their good work later along with Fawad, Afridi and Malek. When you have six bowlers, then why you need Ajmal for a 20/20?. So ahmed shehzad or shahzaib hasan should take this place and bolster the batting. Will someone pass this message to the Paki Captain or it will linger in this comments column.. Younis is positive and so am i..

  • khalil on June 8, 2009, 8:51 GMT

    pakistan cricket now like hokey my advice to PCB that they have to say bye bye cricket coz they can't handle, we can't produce leader like Imran khan. if pakistan win in future so i would say that gona be miracle.

  • dave on June 8, 2009, 8:50 GMT

    I think we should give pakistan team a chance, there are very good players but they are not lucky today. No body goes there to loose a match you got to consider lot of facts wheather, rustiness and e.t.c. I am 99% sure that pakistan will win the match againist netherlands with the required run rate. They should win for the people of pakistan. Forget afridi, but there are misbah, gul, malik, younis, kamran, tanveer who can a given day win the match single handedly.

  • Khalid Hussain on June 8, 2009, 8:50 GMT

    The problems in Pakistan cricket go beyond the players, the problem is the entire PCB. Pathetic selectors and even more pathetic administration. Why is it that Pakistan is the only team losing out on the whole ICL issue? The Lahore Badshah team could perform better then this current mob. Why are PCB not playing Imran Nazir, Mohammad Yousuf? Rana Naved and Abdul Razzaq? Have you noticed that Yorkshire didn't waste anytime in taking back Rana? and Imran Nazir is the best T20 and ODI batsman Pakistan have. I am really struggling to understand why Salman Butt, Shoaib Malik, Misbah and Akmal are still in the Pakistan team? Young players in Pakistan must feel cheated when they see any of these players in the team. If this carries on Pakistani youngsters will quickly loose interest in cricket and I wouldn't blame them. Where is the motivation and where are the opportunities?

  • ANAS FAZAL on June 8, 2009, 8:49 GMT

    Man O Man, Cum On Pakistan, This was a bizzard display of their attitude on the square. Its so frustating to see Pakistan go down on almost every forum of the world. Paki players needs to understand that they are not just the sportsmen or its not just the game, its the forum where they are representing the entire nation, their attitude towards their profession, and most importantly the locve for their passion but infortunately once again, they have let us down!! Shame on you bunch of Donkeys..... It would have been better had they would not be allowed to participate, atleast there would have been some kind of sympathy with them.

  • Asim on June 8, 2009, 8:49 GMT

    I am a die hard indian fan and i was really looking forward for an intense india pak clash.But the attitude of younis khan shows that this pak team is not going to qualify.t20 is the future of cricket and it is more fun when you fight for your country.Bye bye pakistan team,You disappoint the cricket fans,your future is bleak.Time for the overhaul of your team,the sooner the better,what say pakis???

  • khalil on June 8, 2009, 8:48 GMT

    pakistan cricket now like hokey my advice to PCB that they have to say bye bye cricket coz they can't handle, we can't produce leader like Imran khan. if pakistan win in future so i would say that gona be miracle.

  • Shazad Awan on June 8, 2009, 8:48 GMT

    Whilst it is disheartening to see Pakistan loose, again, one has to realise that most of the reasons for their defeat stem from within. Firstly the team selection, which sane team management will put Sohail Tanvir on the bench in place of Mohammed Amir and then opt for Yasir Arafat in the first 6 overs. Surely to progress in a big tournament you need big tournament players and they don't come bigger then Tanvir, see his IPL record. The opening slot for Pakistan has always been a lottery, so why not opt for experience at the top, after all Shoiab Malik, Kamran Akmal and Younis Khan have all opened before. 20/20 is a simple game 120 balls at run ball is 120 or 5 singles and boundary(4) will easily take you up to 180. Take every single and the boundaries will come, the Pakistani openers seemed unaware of this fact. To win against NL, Pakistan need a good consistent formula if they are to progress further. Younis Khan said they had two games to win, dear sir did you consider the rain?

  • Satyan on June 8, 2009, 8:45 GMT

    I am sure Pakistan will be there in the semi finals.

  • Rajit on June 8, 2009, 8:45 GMT

    Shahid Afridi is a complete waste in this line up.I think he is still playing on his past reputation...Looking at the way he batted against England,Pakistan Think tank would do well to promote Umar Gul up the order ahead of afridi becoz he was atlest putting bat to bowl.Mr.Afridi better keeps his silly comments about VVS and IPL in his closet becoz to me Afridi is not a player of international class.He should be playing somewhere on the streets of Pakistan and not representing the country.

  • Wajahat Mehdi on June 8, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    I have no idea as to why younis khan keep sending amateur players at the top while senior batsmen like Younis himself, S.Malik and Misbah do nothing but watch the game slip through the hands. By the time they come out to bat, the match is already over. We should keep one thing in mind that Kamran Akmal is not Dhoni. I see 3 major problems behind Pakistan's recent poor performances 1. fielding 2. too many extras and 3. wrong batting order.

  • Shamb on June 8, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    What do you expect? Entire nation of Pakistan watched like helpless child when their cricket friends were hit by terrorist. It will take a while for them to come up.

  • AZ on June 8, 2009, 8:42 GMT

    How come Shoaib Malik performance is good with both bat and ball when it is Domestic match and when it comes to International he is not performing at all neither with bat and ball. Last 2 matches he got out in the same way. Is he doing this intentionally after loosing his captaincy. We all know how he deliberately loose Domestic T20 match as a protest on umpiring and accepted it in post match interview.

  • Nusrat on June 8, 2009, 8:40 GMT

    Give them a break please; they are still capable of coming back in the game. Come on guys of Younis Khan-- I know you can still take advantage of the last chance you still have. Gather around your captain and deliver what is required. If England could beat you with some 45 odd runs, you can beat Netherlands by 25 runs. Good Luck!

  • Asad Ali on June 8, 2009, 8:40 GMT

    I really don't understand the selection policy. Why do our selectors keep picking up proven failures? Why is it that only four batsmen in the whole squad have a decent T20 record (not good, just decent) and only two of them were in the playing eleven? I'm all for fresh blood & giving youngsters a chance, but is it really wise to bring in a total rookie when you have a better choice to pick? Let's face it, Afridi is only a bowler now, but has he put up enough good performances (against formidable oppositions) to be considered a genuine spinner? Why can't people see how consistently inconsistent Kamran Akmal is (with bat & with gloves)? Why a batsman with domestic T20 ave of 9 & a strike rate of 86 is opening the innings? However we criticize yesterday's performance, the main picture remains that this current Pakistani team doesn't have what it takes to perform & not 'cause Pakistan doesn't have anything better to offer, but 'cause the selectors are failing at their job, yet again!

  • Jassim on June 8, 2009, 8:39 GMT

    Again again and again , i am unable to understand why the hell pakistani team keep on doing the same mistakes,,, :( Salman butt is out of form he is unable to play big shots, his leg side game is damn weak, he always try to push the ball on the offside. Collingwood is a good captain to restrict the boundaries by his 6 player on offside when butt is batting but our Mr. Younus is unable to learn thises tactics. I remembered when Yousaf and inzi were playing Mr. younus always hurry to come at 3rd place. why the hell he didnt cam at number 3 when we need a senior player to handle the game...Ahhh wish wish wish. He was unable to use his bowlers completely, just like a street captian to handed each over to each bolwer comeon gull u bowl, now u afridi and next you malik. huh no proper game plan... and above all Mr. younus you are saying that its all fun and part of entertainment, Brother what you call all those players who are putting their efforts to get the Worldcup ..?? are the JOKERs?

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 8:38 GMT

    Well I want to ask few questions to Pak captain:-

    1. Why you cant open with Afridi? 2. Why you drop Sohail Tanvir & play Yasir Arafat? Just compare the T20 records of both players & no sensible person will prefer Arafat over Tanvir.

    3. After winning the toss why you elected to bowl 1st when you are well aware that our batting isn't good in chasing.

  • Yusuf Tabatabai on June 8, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    Though it is difficult for the fans to see it dispationately, but the fact is simple. Pakistani team, like many other teams before it, is presently going thru a transition. What has compounded the problem is that (a) they have not been able to replace their big players (b) they lost some more players to ICL (c) the recent infortunate events, and (d) the way the PCB functions. Pakistan team might still make it to the second round, but even if it does so, this won't mean that everything is all right with Pak cricket. No, it is not win or lose this Tuesday. The road to recovery is going to be a long and hard one and requires total commitment from those who are at the helm of affairs. For the sake of Pak fans and world cricket, let's hope good things return sooner than later.

  • King Khan on June 8, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    Mr. Kamran Abbassi you should write rubbish Pakistani cricket team instead of "Pakistan".

    Our Pakistani cricket board is responsible for all these defeats, they dont have balls to select those ICL players who can win such games single handedly. Butt sahib butt should be kicked for supporting indian cricket board. cricket board sent players names to ICC than we have domestic tournament 20/20. just amazing.Please also look at our current team performance in that tournament

    Salman butt can only play two shots, younis two, ahmed two, shahid none, misbah and malik is not gettin any chance to show their class, yasir arfat cant play any cricket. Younis khan captaincy is pathetic, he doesnt know how to use his bowlers, every one is underpressure due to his foolish captaincy. If younis had introduced ajmal in third over against peterson, i bet england would have collapsed. I think we all know that it is very difficult to bowl at set batsmen. Why sohail in not playing in this side??

  • hasan on June 8, 2009, 8:37 GMT

    i dont feel like commenting on these stupid players.Butt,Akmal,Yaser,malik and the big PCB but should pack and go...........

  • Mohammad Ali Dada on June 8, 2009, 8:36 GMT

    Having been brought up watching the Pakistan teams of the late 80's and the 90s, probably the best ever to take field, and having made the trip to the Oval yesterday to see this sorry excuse of wannabes give up a game before they even batted, I sincerely hope Netherlands thrash Pakistan as well. Maybe then Younis Khan might change his mind about the 'fun' nature of this game and take it a bit seriously. Its never a joke when you put the green uniform on mate.

  • Shehryar on June 8, 2009, 8:36 GMT

    Watching yesterday's match I was shocked by Pakistan's body language and a complete lack of seriousnes. Younis Khan giggled like a little girl on every misfield by his team and got way too chummy with the English players (eg patting Adil Rashid on the head), even while staring down the barrel of defeat. Come on Younis! Captaining your country in a world cup is no laughing matter. Lets see that big grin of yours when Pakistan are downed by the Netherlands.

    Afridi as a batsman looks a shadow of his former self, swiping wildly and yet struggling to even connect with the ball. I wonder if its time to give someone else a go. He's not going to be a matchwinner with the ball in English conditions anyway.

  • Malik Imran Sharjah on June 8, 2009, 8:35 GMT

    In my opnion, Younis khan doesnt deserve the captaincy specially for these type of events, I mean a common cricket fan cas set the bowling order for Pakistani team, in T20 format Why shahid afridi is not used as an opener, as team managment said earlier that afridi is playing in the team as a bowler, so What if He goes on no 1 position and even he loses his wicket, not a big deal, Because you ppl are taking him as a bowler. I mean the PCB should think about it.....

  • sachin on June 8, 2009, 8:34 GMT

    T20 is anyone's game..but its very foolish to say by younis khan, that T20 is just a fun and he doesnt matter losing or being out of the tournament....down the line everyone knows - no one likes loosing...to be few players like younis, shoaib malik,kamram akmal arent suited for the format too...need more players like afridi,razzak...

  • Shahzad on June 8, 2009, 8:33 GMT

    Well I want to ask few questions to Pak captain:-

    1. Why you cant open with Afridi? 2. Why you drop Sohail Tanvir & play Yasir Arafat? Just compare the T20 records of both players & no sensible person will prefer Arafat over Tanvir.

    3. After winning the toss why you elected to bowl 1st when you are well aware that our batting isn't good in chasing.

  • jibranbabar on June 8, 2009, 8:33 GMT

    younis khan approach aftr the match is disappointing and poor, calling the t20 is fun, is an insult to all pakistani supporters, i personally woke up at 230am just to watch my team play like a bunch of idiots who dnt hav any idea wat they r doing, poor selection of playing eleven, Butt shouldnt be playing in the next match so as Muhamand Amir, and for afridi he shd retire now cz he is up2 no good...he is useless

  • shiraz on June 8, 2009, 8:32 GMT

    We can't bat, field or bowl!!! Its that simple. How on earth do you decide to give Yasir Arafat the chance to open the bowling. He shouldn't even be in the team. Why is Afridi not opening. Our mentality of playing cricket has not chnaged for over a decade. If you need 9 runs an over, go for it from the first ball and keep up the pace with the required run rate. Saving wickets and then going for it with a few overs left is no longer the way. I like YK as a batsman but not as a captain. He doesn't have the cornered tiger mentality. We need to be aggressive on the field. He believes in the philosophy, 'you win some, you lose some'. I can accept losing but play with heart is all that us Pakistanis expect. Australia can get beaten by any team but they never beat themselves. We tend to beat ourselves with poor team selection, poor fielding, poor batting, poor bolwing and poor verall strategy and do we do our homework on our opposition players? Do we deserve to progress, I think not!!!

  • Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 8:32 GMT

    Winning and loosing is a part of the game but the pakistan LOOSE IS VERY BAD.tHANTS THE MOST WORRYING PART.i DONT KNOW BUT HAVE A FEELING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG SOMEWHERE..bUT AS A CRCKET LOVING FANN WE SHOULD HOPE PAKISTAN TURN TABLES AROUNDD AND QUALIFY FOR SUPER EIGHT...BECAUSE PAKISTAN ALWAYS PLAY WE3LL WHEN THEIR BACKS ARE AGAINST THE WALLLLLLL..... There is no intensity in field..laughing after getting out battinmg misbah at 7..wowwwwwwwwwww intikhab alam must be a buzzzzy man he has to settle many thingsssssssssss

  • mohsin on June 8, 2009, 8:31 GMT

    i really dont y is he starting bowling at yasir arafat.if u ve two good wicket taker bowler like umer gul and sohail tanveer u should start with them.and if salman butt not perform fell y r u selected him.

  • Ali Q on June 8, 2009, 8:29 GMT

    It was a disgraceful performance for Pakistan. They were never serious on ground as it is the captain's responsibility of maintaining discilpine level with the exemplery example of Imran Khan and Wasim Akram. The reasons are obvious- all departments: poor fielding,wrong batting order and ineffective rotating of bowlers. Shoaib Malik needs to open, Sohail tanvir in for yasir arafat,misbah ul haq one down, afridi and kamran to follow,no younis khan, and get rao anjum, his medium pacers at least save runs. Its an uphill task defeating the Netherlands on the 9th. Goodluck Mr-all-the-time-smiling Younis Khan. Ali Q

  • Hammad Mujtaba on June 8, 2009, 8:29 GMT

    Anxiously waiting for this match for the past few days, it turned out to be one of the most horrible nights of all time. Bad Decisions, Worst Fielding, Miserable Attitude, Pointless Batting could only result in a Disgraceful Result, which unfortunately all the Pakistanis have to live with.

    A Cricket Fanatic and a Fanatic Patriot, I can't even remember what words I cursed them with, while they were batting. Is this the best they could do for their Country when The Nation so desperately needs a Good News.

    For me Pietersen's Dropped catch and Salman Butt are the Major Reasons for the result. Mr Butt played all the Crucial first 6 overs put all the Batting line under pressure. Didn't give strike to Akmal for almost 2.3 overs and Handsomely left the ground on the last ball of the 6th Over with a 28 off 24 Balls. WOW.

    Seeing me all depressed and down, my wife consoled me with these words "LOOSING HOPE IS A SIN". Which made me think and realize that the Scneario is exactly like 1992.

  • mohsin on June 8, 2009, 8:28 GMT

    i really dont y is he starting bowling at yasir arafat.if u ve two good wicket taker bowler like umer gul and sohail tanveer u should start with them.and if salman butt not perform fell y r u selected him.

  • Sanjay on June 8, 2009, 8:27 GMT

    I am an Indian and watching Indian team is my greatest passion, but my second most passion is watching Pakistan team for their never say die attitude in the field. But I was sorry to say that it was missing in this match. But I expect them to bounce back very soon. I know they will beat Netherlands by a huge margin and will play with their known passion in super 8. Come on paki fans...support your team in this difficult time and do not loose hope.The team needs your backing. Only I hope YK does not take his fun attitude any further and take remaining matches seriously. I am looking forward for India- Pakistan final once again (and there I will not wish Pak team good luck he..he..he) till final I for one will be supporting this Pakistan team. Cheers man...keep spirit up..such thing can happen to any and every team.

  • Aamir on June 8, 2009, 8:27 GMT

    Look here, just relax, the team had a bad day. So did Australia. If you people are sportsmen, you should know what cricket is all about. They are rusty, yes, a bit underpressure yes, but lets support them instead of this usual bashing... In my books, they will do better.

  • khurram on June 8, 2009, 8:27 GMT

    What pathetic playing-XI selection. Here is what it should look like: 1. Butt 2. Afridi (use him as opener) 3. Malik 4. Akmal 5. Misbah 6. Younas 7. Fawad Alam 8. Arafat 9. Tanvir / Aamer 10. Gul 11. Ajmal

    Why we have two test match openers here?? Atleast bench one of them and send Afridi up the order. He is no good down the order, so lets see if he does any thing good upfront in the powerplays. I sincerely think there is no place for even Younas and Butt in this format and likes of Razzaq and Imran Nazir or even M hafeez should be here in T20, but its too late.

    Anyways, hoping Pakistan would learn and come back strong !

  • Zeeshan Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 8:26 GMT

    Younis Khan from captaincy, always unable to prove himself. Why he played without Sohail Tanvir. He started bowling from Arfat and Aamir. I do not know why he gave bowling to Shoaib Malik where there were so many choices of bowling. When we lost against S. Africa in World Cup, at that time, he did blunder in that match and we lost that match. Amazing to see Kamran at no. 3 and Afridi at no. 6 and Misbah at no. 7. He made positions of players very funny. Misbah is best batsman in team and he was playing at no. 7. Why man? At no. 3, he was suitable, no. 4 Misbah, Malik, Akmal, Arfat and then Afridi. If Tanvir was there than Tanvir. Khan scored near to 50 runs, if he came at no 3, he could do more. There was no problem from batting. Only reason is that our captain is techically, not correct. He has not ability to understand that Afridi has worst record of batting in England and he was sending him before Misbah. I think even Malik is better captain than him.

  • Hamid on June 8, 2009, 8:25 GMT

    Pakistan must drop both openers against Netherlands and open with Afridi and Kamran Akmal and include Sohail Tanvir and Fawad Alam. This will give Pakistan with more bowling options. Regarding NRR Pakistan victory margin must be equal to or greater than 25 runs if Pakistan bat first. If netherlands bat first than Pakistan Run Rate while chasing should be 1.25 runns per over high than NEtherlands Run Rate.

    For example if Netherland scores 150. Pakistan must chase down same in 17.1 Overs.

    Than NRR become

    For Pakistan (137+175 - 185-150)/40 = -0.575 For NEther (163+150 - 162-175)/40 = -0.600

    If netherland Scores 180 Pakistan must chase down same in 17.5 Overs at Runrate of 10.25 than equations become

    For Pakistan (137+205 - 185-180)/40 = -0.575 For Netherla (163+180 - 162-205)/40 = -0.600

    This is worst case. In best case. Pakistann should do wht SouthAfrica did with Scoutland. Just pray for our team.

  • Saad Ashraf on June 8, 2009, 8:24 GMT

    Kick Salman butt and Shahid Afridi and please bring Abdul Razzak back.He is better than both of them.They are disgrace to our team.

  • Rizwan Khan on June 8, 2009, 8:22 GMT

    If pakistan captain thinks that he only entertain the crowds than he join circus b/c people come there just for fun & enjoyment but in sports its most of the respect of your country which u represent this type of performance they laid down pakistan thats the reason for which pakistan not considered in Champions League Its an eye opener for PCB if it is not blind. we pakistanis didnot forget the early exit from WC 2007 , We all Pakistani request from Pakistan Team plz. plz. play well for PAKISTAN, For People of Pakistan

  • Hyder Ali on June 8, 2009, 8:21 GMT

    I'm a big fan of pak crickt inspite of being an indian. I always want 2c at tuf battle between Ind & Pak. But frm past few yrs, pak's performances r very disgusting. Once upon a time pak crickters used 2 fite til d last ball. But now this team under younis, i doubt they can atleast giv a competition 2 indian team. During d presentation d way Yunus reacted, Huh.. Pak is d Runners up in last T20 WC. How can he tak WC fixtures easily. Common pak, Win strongly and CU in later stages. Al d best

  • Abdur Razzak on June 8, 2009, 8:21 GMT

    Being a pak fan i have to say it was utterly a disgusting performance from the men in green. The rustiness is understood especially when you are not in the int'l frame as much as you were in the past. But the fact was the spineless effort of the pakistani batsmen. They never looked like chasing 186 but instead payed out the overs. I do not really understand what makes any of the selectors , the coach or even the cpatain to regard salman butt as a T20 batsmen. Come on the fact is he is simly a batsmen with a limted variety of strokes. So at the first place they have to find a strong and right combination to open the innings may be it's afridi's time. Secondly Younus as the captain hould noty make such funny comments. Be it T20, Tst or ODI's still it's an int'l fixture. Importantly the mega even of this form ofth game how can you simply ignore this & describe it as just for fun? infcat he should be charged for this. Finally the entire teams lacks a strong strategy. Mr.alam it's your duty

  • abid on June 8, 2009, 8:19 GMT

    Pls throw out sala man butt/ yasir khurrafaat. And why the hell was england put to bat. Younis khan is an idiot and does not know anything about captancy. Khuda kay wastay, get out of this bad politics and bring back muhammad yousaf, abdul razzaq, saqlain mushtaq. And also just analyze every players last 10 matches records before selecting. Why the heck sala man butt is in team when he was the person who lead pakistan to defeat many times in dubai.

  • Shahzeb on June 8, 2009, 8:19 GMT

    It was a rubbish,shameless and shambolic performance in all departments of the game by pakistan against england.It was like watching a horror show with no end in sight.Firstly the 15 man squad selected for the tournament does not have players who can excel in 20-20 cricket.There are no big-hitters who can hit the ball cleanly except misbah ul haq.Akmal,Younus Khan,Butt and Shahzad are players who can only time the ball.Shoaib Malik does nothing useful while Afridi is definitely in the team on reputation alone,even his bowling is getting no better.In bowling department,none of the bowlers have impressed except m.aamir and umar gul in some moments.There was no team strategy discussed before the game it was as if the players were going through the motions.Younus khan's captaincy has been uninspiring.Intikhab alam has been unimpressive as coach;it seems the only thing he does is EAT alot according to the size of his belly.The tournament is over for pakistan.Things will only get worse.

  • Riaz on June 8, 2009, 8:18 GMT

    FACT is that this Pakistan team is not capable of winning. Losing a match is one thing but loosing the last 3 matches the way they did is inexcusable. They were playing that like they have 50 overs to score 185 runs. Pakistan is not close to any other international teams in this T20. And what can I say about YK, his comments at press conference are like reading *comics*. ICL team of Lahore Badhsahs can beat this Pakistan team any time.

  • Ahmad on June 8, 2009, 8:18 GMT

    what a poor performance. There is no place for Younas khan in t20. Salam butt, limited range of short selection, he may be a good player on off side, but has no effective shorts on leg side. it is time for Shoeb Malik to think sincerely for retirement. slow paced, without aggressoin, how can pakis win a game. hopefully on tuesday we will again listen a bad news.

  • ishrat on June 8, 2009, 8:16 GMT

    We have a knee jerk reaction to the match. Obviously all Paki fans are disapointed especially me who was watching the match with Indian fans YK was being too experimental and he needs to curb that. Perhaps he watched Shane Warne and the IPL I still feel that we can get to the Semis all we need are glitch adjustments and some motivation from the coach and captain. Afridi and Malik opening with Younis and Misbah following and fawad Alam and Akmal to give fire power in the lower middle order. Afridi and Saeed bowled well and should be used in tandem along with Fawad Alam and Malik. Tanvir and aamir shuld open with Umar Gul coming in when he does towards the middle innings.GOOD LUCK TO THEM

  • Rizwan on June 8, 2009, 8:15 GMT

    They are not professional when it comes to the games,there is talk that some of the players are more interested in which nightclubs to visit while in the UK! i feel sorry for the pakistani supporters, we need strict set up, right from the top, we need a foreign coach so we can get rid of this lazy lacklusture culture in the team! Pathetic performance. International players who cannot field correctly or catch? spinners who give frontfoot no balls?Afridi needed to be dropped years ago! Imran Nazir, Razzaq,Mohammed Yousef being left out?! really sad for Pakistan cricket!

  • vinoth on June 8, 2009, 8:14 GMT

    I think younis is a good captain, he does not get any moral support from his team or selection panel.

    What will he alone do? I think he is the only pakistan player to be so cool, the spirit must be shown in the game not in face.

  • Abdullah on June 8, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    Pakistan arent all that bad a team, just look at the series against Australia in Dubai. There they smashed Australia in the t20.

  • Syed Muhammad Naqvi on June 8, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    If Captain Younis Khan is saying that he is not much concerned about T20 and he dont care about the result, then he should not take part in the T20 world cup as anything off International exposure and where Country is representing is certainly off serious nature and everybody who took part should show professionalism. These type of comments are nothing but the pretext and showing the immature approach of Pakistan Captain. Pakistan Cricket needs good qualified and educated players who can face the media, or PCB should guide them before delivering anything. Pakistan lost and it is the fact whatever they have done in the field is obvious they were not looking like to chase 185. There approach was casual, I am not making anything emotional but as a cricket fan and player also I think the team outlook needs changes otherwise the cricket will be vanished from Pakistan just like the Hockey. It was shocking and painful for me to see such performance.

  • Samir Ali on June 8, 2009, 8:10 GMT

    No display of character by pakistan yesterday but i'd rather blame the selectors for this debacle in T20. I dnt understand why Butt & Shehzad r even there in d squad. Butt is not a a player who can play innovative shots and Shehzad is way too inexperienced and tht shows in his shot selection in the last two matches. I mean why do u select a 17yr old player when u hav openers like Manzoor, Hafeez & Jamshed performing in the domestic circuit. And for Gods sake, why do u keep Tanvir out of playing 11 when his performance in T20 has been excellent. The match was gone in the first six overs itself, pak should hav concentrated on their NRR and scored atleast 150 but i dnt think this pak team has the smallest of brains to think abt the NRR. And to top it all younis comes up with this idiotic stmnt after the defeat to say tht T20 cricket is for fun and nt to be taken seriously.

    T20 has evolved a lot in the last 2 yrs but pak havent been able cope up with it...

  • MB Bashir on June 8, 2009, 8:09 GMT

    I am from Afghanistan and only supporting Pakistan, be shame YK, Afridi and Shoib Malik is there any one to ask Pakistan slectors for selecting Ahmad Shezed, Salman But and another one who got duck against India in Warm Up match. but today i am not unhappy becuase the result was expected in advance.

    Bashir

  • AMJAD on June 8, 2009, 8:09 GMT

    come on pakistani fans dont be so harsh on the team give them 2 chance and you will see that what makes pakistani team so strong when they make their fans angery.BE A PAKISTANI AND PROUD TO BE A PAKISTANI.

  • Rizwan on June 8, 2009, 8:09 GMT

    I am utterly disappointed by Paki performance. There is no attitude, no aggression, no confidence, no mental capability, and I must admit now no natural talent. I concur with many comments on this pathetic show. Some points to ponder

    * Why imran nazir and razak not in team when they were freed well b4 tournament and team selection.

    * Corrupt PCB should be dissolved immediately followed by their trial. They cant, oh sorry, they dont hunt excellent players out there. There is no methodology to nurture a raw talent.

    * Why pcb injects fresh blood to national team who have no experience of playing except on flat pitches against club level bowlers.

    * Afridi was literally trying to hit the ball with his eyes shut. He should open no matter what format he plays in - at least miss hits could could land in no mans land.

    * I think bowlers are real assets for pakistan but they are not looked after. See how England took Mushi's service to strengthen their bowling.

    I pray they loose to dutch :|

  • sajid shah on June 8, 2009, 8:08 GMT

    Why the hell, Younas khan decided to field first after winning the match. Mark my words Pakistan cannot chase 160 runs even. Yes but they can defend 160 runs. Choosing to field first was the most stupid decision. The moment younas gave he batting to england i knew that they have now almost 75% chance of winning the game.

  • Sir Collingwood on June 8, 2009, 8:08 GMT

    What in the name of all things sacred and holy is Younis trying to say? That it is okay to lose because Twenty20s are just for show?

    Wow -- it sounds similar to the sentiment of "my job is just paying me. I'll just try enough to make sure I can live on." Ridiculous and rubbish!

    England was on the warpath and Pakistan threw themselves under the bus and hoping England would simply roll over like they did against the Dutch -- that's sorta embarrassing.

  • Saad Siddiqui on June 8, 2009, 8:08 GMT

    our team and our captain has slapped across the face of silly fans like me, who UNCONDITIONALLY support Pak team. silly fans who wake up till mid night praying for victory ignoring our professional and domestic responsibilities. I wish I had known earlier that for our team, T20 is a "non-serious act to please the crowd". I want to ask Younis that if T20 is non-serious then what seriousness have you shown in ODI and tests (we have a pathetic loss record in both recently). The whole nation has endless yet simple questions about the match against England. Why our team didnt give a fight? why they were taking singles when required runrate was 16? why were they SMILING immediately after misfielding and 4 catches dropped? why they didnt even try to NARROW the defeat margin, so as to keep hope alive for next round? why try youngsters (shahzad, amir no matter how talented) in a major tournament in trying conditions? as both added to the defeat margin due to inexperience.

  • sumit on June 8, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    I am an indian fan but follow pakistan games too. It was really disappointing to see the team loose so badly. They dint take lessons from the warm up defeats. The entire team needs a lagre scale overhauling. The ICL players like Imran nazir, abdur razzaq, rana naved and Md yusuf should be brought back. Misbah should come one down. I think he is one of the best T10 players besides Yuvraj singh. He can build up innings and go for shots by 12th 13th over. Hope common sense prevails this time.

  • Taha on June 8, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    Big losers!!!

  • Murtaza Bharmal on June 8, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    Clue less Pakistan made it really hard for themselves to make it to the next round. I dont understand the skipper Mr. Younus Khan who always seems to enjoye even when his team is losing the curcial game.The comments which he gives and the decisions which he takes are not understandable by the millions of fans. Well it is a game and some times you lose it but the manner in which they lost against England is just preplxing.Saying on toss that England are under pressure and we will take our chances is not this strange in Crunch game like this? Yes you do take your chances but when you are sure that you in a safe position. Now the pressure is on Pakistan and we all know how they react in pressure situation, if not then just recall the match against Ireland vs Pakistan of the last World Cup.As a big fan of Pakistan Cricket just hoping against hope that this team will now reach in the next round.

  • Mazher Arshad on June 8, 2009, 8:05 GMT

    Important Note:

    According to previous calculations, We were thinking that Pakistan just needs to win by 25 Runs or complete target in 17 Overs but its not the case. We were not adding the Run Rate into Net Run Rate thats why every possibility was giving same answer.

    I was also wondering that how can Run Rate be same in all possibilities. So its not an easy task for Pakistan, Beating any team with margin of 70 to 80 Runs by scoring 210 to 220 Rund or completing the target by 12 or 13 Runs in an Over is not an easy Task.

    Finals words are:

    1. Pakistan should look to score 220 or 210 Runs and then must restrict Holland by 130 or 140 Runs.

    2. If Holland bat first then Pakistan should restrict them by 130 or 140 Runs and then complete the target in 11 or 12 Overs.

    I hope my these calculations are immaculate now, There is no room for Error now. Still if there is any Error then pardon me again because I have really spent some time to calculate these things.

  • junaid tariq on June 8, 2009, 8:04 GMT

    wat more wud u expect wid a clown captain like younis khan.. i mean we have dropped tanveer for wat?? he was poor against australia but bowler of the series in ipl..yasir arafat?? lol he doesnt merit a place even in the squad.. it seems like pakistan team is on a picnic under a funny captain who thinks on the field its all abt making friends.. they r getting paid for the job they do n they fail to realize that.. its embarassing to c wat ijaz butt, abdul qadir n amir sohail has done wid this team.. i mean no imran nazir, imran farhat, abdul razaq or naveed ul hassan? lol.. i hope we lose against holland n knocked out to avoid further embarasment in group stage against much stronger opposition

  • Mazher Arshad on June 8, 2009, 8:04 GMT

    Currently, Pakistan has -2.4 and Holland has +0.05. We would add the Run Rate of Pakistan-Holland Match into this current Run Rate and then it would be "Net Run Rate".

    Case 1(Pakistan scores 210 Runs):

    Pakistan scores 210 Runs and restrict Holland by 135 Runs, Means Pakistan win by 75 Runs. In this case, NRR would be as followed:

    Pakistan 347/40 - 320/40 => +0.675 Now we would add this into the current Run Rate: +0.675 - 2.4= -1.72(Now Thats Net Run Rate)

    Holland 298/40 - 372/40 => -1.85 Now we would add this into the current Run Rate: -1.85+0.05=-1.8(Now Thats Net Run Rate)

    As -1.72 is greater than -1.8 so Pakistan will qualify. Hence, The more Pakistan score then more it would be easier for them to qualify.

    Case 2(Holland scores 140 Runs)

    Holland scores 140 Run and Pakistan chases the target of 141 in 12 Overs. In this case NRR will be as followed:

    Pakistan 278/32 - 325/40 => +0.56 Now we would add this into the current Run Rate: +0.56 - 2.4= -1.83(Now Thats Net Run Rate

  • Adeel on June 8, 2009, 8:03 GMT

    We as fans understand that wining and loosing is part of the game, but loosing without fighting is the point of concern. Pakistan lost without putting up a fight is the biggest issue. I would not pick Younis Khan and Shoaib Malik in my 20-20 team as they both are always busy saving their own wickets and making singles in extremely defensive mode, eventually destroying the chance of the team to win. They both are clever cricketers but hey they are playing the world cup and that's for the countries not for individuals. Pakistan loose their first wicket in the first couple of overs traditionaly, then what is wrong with Afridi opening the inning and loosing the wicket or giving bonus to his side. Overall I assess a team by its body language when they enter to play an opponent and Pakistan's body language was very poor in last game. That made them loose catches and perform poorly in all departments whatsoever. I've no idea why the first over was not given to Umar G if Sohail T was absent

  • atif on June 8, 2009, 8:02 GMT

    what a pathetic performance by Pakistan. its not the margin that they lost to but the manner in which they lost. i mean i am ashamed that i support such pathetic losers. they have not shown the guts that we are used to seeing from our teams of the past...i think we should call it quits and enroll these losers in the army to fight the taliban!! atleast they will be of some use!! i think afridi should be sent back home immediatley and made to retire. they should make him a case study as to how NOT to bat!! younus khan should stop smiling. he is im not a very nice guy. BUT he is not heading an NGO here...he is leading PAkistan's National Cricket Team!! he should have a game face and not act like everything goesz and im a chilled out person. we donty care about his chilled out personality. we want to play like it matters...win or lose!!

  • Entraper on June 8, 2009, 8:01 GMT

    Do you think younus is a captain, he is a Joker in the team.....what a selection committee we have all nuts...we have not picked Imran Nazir saying disciplinary action but don't forget he is the perfect opener of 20-20. Where is Razzak and yousuf...are they playing in a world cup or some gali cricket ??? They have intorduced 2 guys of age 17..common selection committee show some maturity they are young, groom them first don't waste their talent by sending them in 20-20 format. I wish & pray that pak beat Holland with the margin required. & To Pakistan Team it Hurts when you guys loose like this...

  • Ghazanfar on June 8, 2009, 8:01 GMT

    With terrorism,Corruption and many more issues to the never ending list surrounding Pakistan for many years, people use to find some joy& relief in Pakistani Cricket. However, for last many years the sorry state of Pakistan cricket has added more salt to our injuries.After watching last night's match, the only thing i can conclude about our team( not even a team as they were not playing like it) is its juts a bunch of unprofessional guys led by laughing stock. If it were somewhere else, guys like AFRID (DILO KE DHADKAN),Shoaib MAlik, Misbah and Younus have been thrown out of the team years back rather than having in it for reason best known to high ups of PCB. Rather than including guys like imran nazir, abdul razak & yousuf, our board has sent a team for WORLD 20 chamionship who cannot even perfom in tests at international level.With fans all around the world protesting against this pathatic state of cricket, i am pretty sure things would still remain unchanged.Thanks to PCB for that

  • Madilath shah khan on June 8, 2009, 8:00 GMT

    Shame to Pakistani team.they are not like before . Pakistan game is over.change the captain younus khan . make misulhaq as a captain of pakistan team. and try to give chance to new faces.

  • Dissapointed Fan on June 8, 2009, 8:00 GMT

    Watching Pak v Eng was very dissapointing. Firstly, the selection is very poor. Why hasn't the 'ICL rebels' been selected for this tournament? They have been released from their contracts. Talk about shooting yourselves (PCB) in the foot. Secondly, the new players selected are very poor and do not look international quality. Why don't PCB ensure upcoming players spend at least 2-3 years in domestic cricket and perform before surfacing them to international cricket only to embarass themselves (PCB) and the player. Lastly, Misbah should be batting at number 3, he has many 'top draw' qualities as a batsman and see the innings through.

    Fawad Alam, what the hell is he doing in the team ahead of Muhammed Hafeez...I guess his dad has very deep pockets. This has to stop otherwise I can see PCB going bankrupt and ICC revoking their full membership. The teams they are selecting is a total embarassment.

  • LIAQAT on June 8, 2009, 8:00 GMT

    I DONT CARE WHAT PAK REQUIRE IN THE NEXT MATCH,, HARD FACT IS pak are rubbish,, there missing main men and their lact of comon sence is showing here, butt and shehzad simply wouldnt make most teams, , kamran andshoaib shud open,, and poor alam whn will he get a chance,, imran nazir , razzaq, rana,, desprately required,, but in all fairness the team is just reflecting what the board is, a bunch of cowards,

  • Meraj on June 8, 2009, 8:00 GMT

    Will Pakistan qualify for Super 8? This question itself is an ebarrassment for Pakistan Cricket & its supporters. Who can say that this team has likes of cricketing legends who are no stranger in cricketing world.

    Suck a reckless performance.

  • Vinal Gandhi on June 8, 2009, 7:59 GMT

    T20 is an unpredictive game and even a strong team can lose a game but the manner in which Pakistan capitulated was alarming. There was nothing wrong with the pitch, crowd support was immense and they were facing a team which was thrashed by a minnow. The old Pakistan team would have pounced on the opportunity and tore the opponents to shreds. This team looks confused and the players look uncertain about their roles. Younis Khan got the captaincy on his own terms but he has not done anything inspirational except to admit to the world that Pakistan is at war! Good thing the author did not blame outside powers for Pakistan's debacle!

  • Ata ur Rehman on June 8, 2009, 7:59 GMT

    Hey guys can anyone tell for sure what is the margin required by Pak team to beat Holland to make it to the Super 8's. I don't think it is 25 runs as Pak are standing deep into -ve i guess -2.4

  • Arun on June 8, 2009, 7:59 GMT

    I feel bad for the Pakistan Cricket Team and their fans. They are such a talented side with a lot of youngsters. Mercurial and Unpredictable.On their day they can make even the champion of sides look like a club team.Even while watching the match , i never saw a feeling of unity amongs the players. It looked like they were going through the formalities. What the team would need is a good counselling session by a good sports psychologist.I strongly feel that Pakistan made England look like a champion side. I feel the Pakistan Team with its firepower with the bat and ball should have given England a much tougher time.I hope Pakistan Gets back to their groove and bring back the magic and charm of fiercely contested India Pak Matches.Cmon Younus ! Get your boys to fire !

  • Farooq Butt on June 8, 2009, 7:57 GMT

    It is so disapointing to say the least. Frankly speaking Pakistan got lucky last T20 and this year they thought that they will be lucky again. PCB had put out a disapointing team. No fire power No Imran Nazir no Abdul Razzq and No Rana Naveed. PCB sucomed to BCCI pressure and took back the names of 3 ICL players which was so disappointing. PCB is like Pakistani government no direction no planning no imagination. Just showing up like bunch of idots. Please Please take maret under consideration before picking up team. I hope PCB learns a lesson after Pakistan is kicked out of yet another World cup tournement in first round. For God sake learn from your mistake. the attitude was disgraceful to say the least. I hope Abdul Qadir is allowed to do his job. Being a Pakistani I will still wish my cricket team best of Luck but I know only that won't help. Let Afridi open the innigs even if he fails doesn't matter.

  • karthik on June 8, 2009, 7:57 GMT

    what the idotic game is paKISTAN PLAYING.There is no sense of responsibility among the players. One would atleast respect their antional anthem but these guys dont seem even to bother it. and coming to thier gaming strategies i no where feel they were playing a international stage game.what was afridi doing on the pitch?is he a better batsmen compared to misbah ul haq? why isnt naseem not progressed up the order afetr showing suchj a gud foot work and power batting against india.they are just havinga vacation out there. bloody idiots

  • Pakistani on June 8, 2009, 7:57 GMT

    Today we just didn’t fight, and it all trickles down to the leadership, Pakistan is a bunch of raw talented nerves and need to be harnessed by the right leader, something we had hoped but have not found in Younis Khan. He is a happy go lucky guy and has for god sakes rejected the leadership on least 2 or 3 different occasions why do we love to beg so much, and not get people for the job who actually have a compassion and really want to excel , rather than beg,why beg Shoaib Akhtar to bowl , Younis to captain. Our cricket has lost its salsa. Honestly as a Pakistani it hurts when we loose, but it hurts beyond comprehension to realize our cricket has lost its identity, I don’t care if we don’t even make it to the next round (actually I do but what I want more is) I want us to go out all guns blazing, quoting the Netherland captain rather be 80 all out in 3 overs then be 120 in 20. Bloody hell we are Pakistanis it’s time we played like it, with our hearths on our sleeves. also play Fawad

  • SALMAN AHMED on June 8, 2009, 7:56 GMT

    This was a horrible performance by last time finalist team.Every department was the worst.Selectors should resign because they dont know the capabilities of the players.Players like Ahmed Shahzad,Salman Butt,Yasir Arafat are not capable of T20.When Shahid Afridi will be out of the side? In next match, Pakistan should open the innings with Afridi & Akmal. Afridi should given as last chance. Ahmed Shahzad and Butt should be dropped. Fawad Alam should be given a chance to strengthen the middle order. They should go from the very first bowl in the match against Holland. Not for slogging but aggressive. They can do it but with this approach, it seems very difficult.

  • Ata ur Rehman on June 8, 2009, 7:56 GMT

    When the likes of Imran Nazir(Only 2nd to Gayle), Abdul Razzak(BEST allrounder in T20's), Rana Naved(Extremely Economical + Handy Batsman), M. Yousuf(Perfect for middle order-Big hitting+sensible batting) are sitting back home watching matches on their TV screens what else can we expect from an average test team?!

  • Irfan on June 8, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    Pakistan team is acting like bunch of jokers being lead by a super jooker in shape of YK, I never liked him from the begening and people are starting to realise now that what type of jooker he is actually. I don't have any more hopes from this team till YK is the man incharge, hope PCB get little sence and fire him right away, YK 's attitude towards cricket is as shoddy as the fielding they showed against Eng. I had always high regards for Pakistan team but it seems the reality is very different. To YK, plz. forgive Pakistan, we can't take any more humiliation, you have done enough & we don't need anymore from you.

  • abbas siraj on June 8, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    Poor decisions by the captain cost Pakistan the game. Playing Misbah ul haq at seven position was bad bad move. What pakistan lack was the fire power between the middle overs the way younis and shoab mailk were playing it looked like they were a 50 over match. There were lack of big shots when the required run rate was around 12. Pakistan made just 63 in the first 10 overs which is way below par when the target is 185. Not playing sohail tanvir was also a mistake as sohail had the experience in this format of game which was required in this important match. Bringing shoaib mailk instead of saeed ajmal in the seventh over, not bringing umer gul right away for the second over when pieterson was new at the crease were the other bad decison made by the the captain. I think younis khan is not a good captain for this format of the game as his game suits the longer version which can be seen from the statement he made after the game.

  • Meraj on June 8, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    Will Pakistan qualify for Super 8? This question itself is an ebarrassment for Pakistan Cricket & its supporters. Who can say that this team has likes of cricketing legends who are no stranger in cricketing world.

    Suck a reckless performance.

  • Adi on June 8, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    There are a lot of comments about dropping everybody in the current team and getting in "new blood". Hang on - isnt this the same team that last Aussies close in the ODI series and completely blasted them in the one-off T20? In that case - whats gone wrong suddenly? The attitude according to me. Its all in the mind! And - drop everyone is right but dont get in new blood - get back Akram, Younis, Haq - they would fare better! Lol

  • abbas siraj on June 8, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    Poor decisions by the captain cost Pakistan the game. Playing Misbah ul haq at seven position was bad bad move. What pakistan lack was the fire power between the middle overs the way younis and shoab mailk were playing it looked like they were a 50 over match. There were lack of big shots when the required run rate was around 12. Pakistan made just 63 in the first 10 overs which is way below par when the target is 185. Not playing sohail tanvir was also a mistake as sohail had the experience in this format of game which was required in this important match. Bringing shoaib mailk instead of saeed ajmal in the seventh over, not bringing umer gul right away for the second over when pieterson was new at the crease were the other bad decison made by the the captain. I think younis khan is not a good captain for this format of the game as his game suits the longer version which can be seen from the statement he made after the game.

  • anu singh on June 8, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    OMG, i feel very sorry and sympathetic for the paksitani nation and am very dissapointed by YK's statement. I can understand u guyz but dw, everyteam goes through bad dayz, but i do blieve u guyz have the potential 2 still win da wc. UR MANAGEMENT SHUD CHANGE ND REMOVE POLITIcs. i am an indian but honestly i lyk paksitan cricket team, but hate your management. I mean this is ridiculous, u send AFRIDI later and not opening. I am an indian but blieve dat afrifi is wayyyyyyyyy better dan yuvi, yusuf, raina, sehwag nd all but u have 2 us ehim properly. u shud get nasir jamshed or nazir 2 open wid afridi. Wish u guyz all da bets nd never los ehope... da samething happened 2 us in 2007 wc nd now luk where we r. BEST OF LUCK, MAY AFRIDI OPEN 2MOROW SINCE THE WORLD LUVS HIM AND HE REPRESENTS 20/20 CRICKET AND HE SHUD CERTAINLy EXCEL

  • Adeel on June 8, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    We as fans understand that wining and loosing is part of the game, but loosing without fighting is the point of concern. Pakistan lost without putting up a fight is the biggest issue. I would not pick Younis Khan and Shoaib Malik in my 20-20 team as they both are always busy saving their own wickets and making singles in extremely defensive mode, eventually destroying the chance of the team to win. They both are clever cricketers but hey they are playing the world cup and that's for the countries not for individuals. Pakistan loose their first wicket in the first couple of overs traditionaly, then what is wrong with Afridi opening the inning and loosing the wicket or giving bonus to his side. Overall I assess a team by its body language when they enter to play an opponent and Pakistan's body language was very poor in last game. That made them loose catches and perform poorly in all departments whatsoever. I've no idea why the first over was not given to Umar G if Sohail T was absent

  • Zeeshan Shukr on June 8, 2009, 7:53 GMT

    Pathetic, lifeless and dismal show by the Pakistan Team. First of all I fail to understand why the hell have they not included Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Mohammad Yousaf in the squad? The mind boggling decisions of PCB have started hurting Pakistan Cricket very badly! These players were banned by PCB, not the ICC, then why the PCB was looking towards the ICC to clear these players? It is the inferiority complex of the PCB Management that makes them take such decisions.

    In such a major event, they have played two inexperienced players, an opener and a left arm fast bowler. The incompetent decision making of Younis Khan was evident when the T20 specialist Sohail Tanvir was dropped. The way Yasir Arafat bowled, it looked like he has totally incompetent to handle pressure situations. He bowled too short and got hammered all over the park.

    I feel Pakistan will be knocked out in the first round, and they should be considering their poor form and mismanagement. They had NO PLANS for this mega event!

  • Shamsi on June 8, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    It is really pathetic that team is performing so badly. I think Younis Khan is taking things too lightly. I remember him saying that if players are visiting night clubs and having female companions it is their personnel bussiness. True, what he said but not when you are on professional duties. He is certainly not a good leader and does not lead by his own examples. The problem is Pakistani senior players when they stop practising and playing politics they will not focused on the game. It is so sad that we are such an indisciplined team, yet there is no one in PCB office who seems to care. One can only pray that they can get their act together at some point.

  • Muhammad Umair on June 8, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    cant see any strategy in Pakistan team.Younas khan should take initiative and should open the innings with Ahmed Shahzad or Fawad Alam, plus Ahmed Shahzad is a bowler too he shud be in the team as an allrounder strategy shub b like this 1-ahmed shahzad 2-Younas Khan 3- Shoaib Malik 4- Kamran Akmal 5- Misbah-ul-Haq 6- Shahid Afridi 7-Sohail Tanveer 8- Umar Gul 9-Saeed Ajmal 10- Muhammad Amir 11- Yasir Arfat. Bowling shud be open by Sohail Tanveer and M. Amir then Umar Gul and Yasir Arfat spinning options: afridi , saeed ajmal , shoaib malik , ahmed shahzad / fawad alam 4 seamers 4 spinners now thats an attack one cud replace easily by another.

  • kamran zubair on June 8, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    No battle is lost till it really gets lost. Don't give space in your head to something which hasn't happened rather keep on working to get things right. My message to my lovely pakistani team.

    Holland would be a gonner on tuesday :). Sorry dutch, I am a pakistani.

  • Chohdry Amir Ali Sandhu on June 8, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    Pakistan has to be the only cricket team in the world where sub-standard cricketers end up amassing 200+ international matches. Even the likes of Andrew Symonds and Mike hussey have played less games than 'mighty' Afridi, Younis Khan, Malik and Akmal. I dare say if Symonds were in Pakistan team, he would have played at least 350 ODIs and 100 test matches yet Aussies didn't think twice about dropping him.

    Its all about attitude. You accept mediocrity, you get it, and in abundance.

    Why was Imran Khan more successful than others. He also had mediocre players in his team of world cup in 92, who remembers people like Iqbal Sikander, Waseem Haider, Zahid Fazal. I bet noone. We all only remember the heroics of Akrams, Inzis, and Miandads only.

    The point is that even Imran Khan selected below par people in his team, but he never allowed below par attitude on the cricket field.

    Kamran Akmal, please stop saying "Shabash", "bohat ala" and "koi baat nahi shahid bhai" for God sake.

  • Farhan Hussain on June 8, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    Poor Fielding, Poor field settings, Poor planning, Poor bowling changes, Poor batting, Poor team selection, Poor squad selection ... And where was Mr. Intikhab Alam ? Its really disappointing .. I dont think they can make it to the Super 8 with this sort of performance ..

  • dammgood on June 8, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    Guys cheer for pakistani Womens team..they are better then men.......

  • Jasim M. on June 8, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    I am a very big fan of Pakistan Team,i had saw around 300 hundred one days half in the ground and half on tv. i am very upset due to there performence in the last match against Eng. it was like Pakistan was not playing to win the match. they even not looking to make there run rate better, so if the beat Netherland then they could go to the next stage by good run rate. i dont blame the players, its all the management. the manager age is 65+ and the coach in around 65 to 70. at this age he can not walk or run how he can coach the team. the coach is , who run and play with the player not just sit and watch. as i was in the dubai stadium and the one off the Police Officer asked me who is this fat guy sitting there in pakistan team kit. i said him he is Pakistan's coach, he said r u kidding me, Coach never sit and drink fizzy drink how he can coach then..And he is getting very havey amount from thr board. in 80s and 90s people thinks he was good coach that time, how he can not be that time Captian of Pakistan was Imran Khan who never listen to any one not even this coach and he wins so many match that time Alam was a dummy coach and people think he is good coach. I dont the why the MIDIA dose not see this and write about this...And why still Razzaq, Imran Nazir and Imran Farhat are out of squade. nobody talks about them why?

  • waqas on June 8, 2009, 7:48 GMT

    Pakistani team is look like a team low professionals totally out of form all bowlers and bastmans are low skills,i think Pakistan have no rights to play international cricket beacause they dont know how to play international cricket how to compete in impotants games,,,and i am hoping holland team is the right to go in next stage........and all the best to Holland

  • Mahd on June 8, 2009, 7:48 GMT

    loss is not bad but to declare yourself as LOSER even before the contest is over .. ITS MISERABLE AND SHAMEFUL!!

    By the 16th over they had no chance of winning but still they had wickets in hand to take their score closer to 185 to minimize the damage.. but thy were happy to take singles... THEY ARE JUST NOT PROFESSIONALS! thats it... they play like as if they are playing in some street of Karachi or Lahore..

  • murad younas on June 8, 2009, 7:48 GMT

    Dear Pakistani friends i have red all the above comments in which u have shown your anger.being a pakistani i m watching cricket from the past 20 years.i dont know whether u will b agree with me or not but i strongly say that pakistani team has given us always tension while watching the match.around 90% of the matches pakistan won due to the suplicates of pakistanis.when this team was selected we knew that the performance will be as it is now.there is a saying in english which says 'if u do what u did u will get what u got'.this salman ,akmal ,afridi etc they r good for quaid - azam trophy only.afridi akmal, arafat and malik they should be rested for ever.pakistan cricket team is far behind UAE etc teams.i dont think now that pak can defeat bangladesh even.others r not ready to play in our country with us and we r not able to play with them in their countries.i m not disappointed because i was mentally ready for such a performance.

  • Samreen on June 8, 2009, 7:48 GMT

    Did'nt understand why YK choose to filed first.., Wasn't he aware that scoring runs without pressure is easy and then putting pressure on the England side by balling was a good strategy... one or two dot balls would have done the trick... Another mistake was starting the balling attack with Yasir... It just came to my mind (What type of decision is this ...) and than all the decisions were wrong... I mean, not picking Sohail Tanvir.., not continuing with Umer Gull and bringing on Shoaib Malik... and above all... Laughing at the miss field from Umer Gull... Worst ever fielding from the team was a nice gift... and than when it comes to batting...taking singles... even with 6 wickets in hand they were not able to hit boundaries... and then all rounders in the end should have tried to score more (for run rate purposes)... I think the ground was too big for them to hit sixes... and even too big for them to field... Shamefull, all team was looking tired as if they have played 5 test matches.

  • Mohammad Junooni on June 8, 2009, 7:48 GMT

    Younis Khan is the worst captain I have seen.Atleast the team was better under Malik.I think the captaincy shoyld be handed over to Misbah or Afridi.After losing against India in the warm up match, he just picks Gambhir's bat and is laughing and smiling as if they had a fighting match.And this match against England, it looked more like a Test match than a T20 match.PCB is the worst thing happened in the cricketing world.PCB is responsible for all this, for not bringing ICL players and hard hitters like Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Rana Naved.Why are Yasir Arafat and Rao in the team?They are useless.Afridi should open the innings along with Akmal, atleast they can score heavily.Alam, our great coach is useless as ever.Under him,we have lost most of the matches.The team has spoiled the mood of millions of its supporters.Shame on you PCB

  • nash on June 8, 2009, 7:47 GMT

    With opponents 185 score in homeground who played with do or die mentality, Pakistan team knew game is over before facing a single delivery. The unfortunate thing was Pakistan team made no serious attempt, especially in last 5-7 overs to increase run rate and not be defeated by massive 48 runs margin. Beating Netherland by 25 runs margin is not going to be easy. I am hopeful, if Pakistan reaches next round, we will see some fireworks. We all are late bloomers, aren t we?

  • Ata Ullah on June 8, 2009, 7:47 GMT

    yonis khan has always been adding fuel to our feelings. he is unable to come out of his joy of being appointed as Captain. I cant understand why has he himself stepped down from no 3 position and then he blames kamran Akmal for not performing. he should be sacked before next match to be replaced by someone who considers T20 some thing serious. this idiot can not understand that sports are entertainment for spectators not for those playing inside the ground.

  • Muhammad Tahir on June 8, 2009, 7:46 GMT

    I think its unfair to blame Pakistani players. Its high time that fans should be more realistic and put entire blame on the administration. Compare Pakistan to other teams and see how much match practice Pakistan had in last few months whereas members of other teams had been playing most competitive cricket in IPL. Pakistan's domestic T 20 was the best opportunity for our players but it was joke when every team had only two matches and then semi finals. Why was the tournament not extended cos a very patriotic TV channel refused to telecast domestic matches in the midst of IPL and PCB administration didnt allow four Pakistani players to participate in the finals of RBS T 20

    Teams coming into World Cup had to be 100% fit with match practice. HIGH TIME HIGHLY PAID ADMINISTRATION SHOULD TAKE SOME STICK.

  • Madhusudhan reddy on June 8, 2009, 7:46 GMT

    Hello pak supporters,

    Pakistan will get in to super8's very easyly as per NRR calculations. pakistan need to maintain a RR of 1.1 ahead of Holland.

    Pakistan RR should be Holland RR + 1.1 to get in to Super8's

    Example 1:

    if Holland bats 1st and post 160 runs (with 8.05 RR) pakistan target RR is 8.05 + 1.1 =9.15

    Example 2 : If pak bats 1st and post 160 (RR 8.05) Pak need to restrict Holland for 161 - 1.1 RR = 139

    Hope Pak captain understands this calculation

  • Muhammad Nasir Jamal on June 8, 2009, 7:45 GMT

    Its all because of captain he is playing with the people he never feels shame, even his body language is not showing that they want to win the match or even foolish younis khan did not think that thay may score that much where they can do for next match, This fool captain think that he is and Malik are better than Misbah Misbah should come onedown and Afridi or Kamran should start the inning you are chasing a hudge total you have to utilise the field restrictions for six overs Butt & Shahzad has no ability to hit the ball hard they are always playing for thereselves they are not playing for team (Finally i would like to say that Ejaz Butt should resign and Miandad should takeover to this fat man (Fool ejaz butt)in this them we need IMRAN NAZEER, RAZZAQ, & Shoaib Akhtar we should think about Pakistan not for personal if we need imran nazeer we must call him, but our officials doesnot want that Pakistan should win

  • S.Ali on June 8, 2009, 7:44 GMT

    i think they the missing IMRAN NAZIR at opening and ABDUL RAZZAK at finishing. With out these two i dont think so pakistan team will go forward.

  • Rajesh on June 8, 2009, 7:43 GMT

    It is hard not be disappointed by the way the Pak team performed yesterday. What really surprised us was the complete lack of effort and the poor attitude on display. C'mon hard to beleieve we saw the best team in action.

  • Di7y on June 8, 2009, 7:42 GMT

    The team spirt mirrors that of the country. It hurts to see Pakistan play in this way. I hope that rain does not affect the Holland match. I hope that Pak play with passion. I will never stop supporting them but I really crave a win right now. If we go out pray its in a blaze of glory.

  • Dalrymple on June 8, 2009, 7:42 GMT

    Its no use guys save your breath for something useful, when the captain isn't even serious about such a heavy defeat and instead tries to downplay it by ridiculing the nature of the game its difficult for me to see how they can beat the netherlands at all let alone by as big a margin as is being quoted. Minnows or not atleast they are playing with some heart and the passion to win that is so very important in these matches.

  • Azeem Azmi on June 8, 2009, 7:41 GMT

    Lets all pray that there isnt rain and actually a game on against the Netherlands. Could someone in the ground hold up a placard with the equation for the Pakistan bench. Intikhab Alam will be asleep as always, but hopefully someone is awake and can take note. Is Aqib still there ?

  • Rohit on June 8, 2009, 7:41 GMT

    More than anything else, its the attitude of the team that ruined Pak's performance. Even after humiliating defeats in the warm-ups, they failed to address the issues plaguing their performance. Pak just doesn't seem to care much about this tournament. England, on the other hand, was ashamed of their complacency against Netherlands, as was determined to make a comeback.

    Pakistan has to change their attitude towards this tournament. Its not 'just fun.' The country of Pakistan itself is plagued by terrorism and the people there are looking for something to cheer them up. And this tournament was something they have been looking forward to, in the hopes of a performance from their team similar to 2007. And the team has now just added to their misery.

  • Chohdry Amir Ali Sandhu on June 8, 2009, 7:41 GMT

    Pakistan has to be the only cricket team in the world where sub-standard cricketers end up amassing 200+ international matches. Even the likes of Andrew Symonds and Mike hussey have played less games than 'mighty' Afridi, Younis Khan, Malik and Akmal. I dare say if Symonds were in Pakistan team, he would have played at least 350 ODIs and 100 test matches yet Aussies didn't think twice about dropping him.

    Its all about attitude. You accept mediocrity, you get it, and in abundance.

    Why was Imran Khan more successful than others. He also had mediocre players in his team of world cup in 92, who remembers people like Iqbal Sikander, Waseem Haider, Zahid Fazal. I bet noone. We all only remember the heroics of Akrams, Inzis, and Miandads only.

    The point is that even Imran Khan selected below par people in his team, but he never allowed below par attitude on the cricket field.

    Kamran Akmal, please stop saying "Shabash", "bohat ala" and "koi baat nahi shahid bhai" for God sake.

  • Tahir on June 8, 2009, 7:40 GMT

    The best way to get away from a crisis and yet hold on the reins without performance is to find a godfather who would save you at crisis and fool the entire world...This is how it has worked for me

  • Syed Hasan Raza on June 8, 2009, 7:38 GMT

    the wininig the toss and chose to bat is a rite decsion but after what happen is a disaster the field bad they bould bad and they bated bad salman but should scored well but he didnt tried well he didnt give his 100% and all the players espially captain didnt play his role rite and its lack of captanice mesbah should came after shoaib malik and he cames after afridi that should'nt be happen.masbah is a slow starter but he has ablity to achiev that kind of total and it is a abursment to pakistani captain he not out and pakistan losses the game and with that kind of margain thats shame.i really dont understand what is the role of shoaib malik in the team and why they put faivad alam in the squad he is the fantistic player he bat well and bast feilder in pakistani side and i alway see him in the banch why he didnt get the chence to play?they should drop both of the openrs put shoaib malik and afirdi or kamran akmal and give a chance b/c he deserve it INSHALLAH we will go through this

  • IKKI on June 8, 2009, 7:36 GMT

    I am an ardent Pakistan fan, but am ashamed of their non-performance against England, a side that at best could be the sixth best in the world. Pakistan has the potential of being world beaters, but have lost thier natural instincts and have been curbed by the new coach, the attitude of the captain and needless to say the pschychiatrist. Where is the raw talent, which was fearless. What happenened to Afridi. Pakistan needs a Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat and a Mohamed Asif or maybe even a Mohamed Sami, Rao and Yasir have not impressed me at all. They all look like they are forced to play cricket. Where is the ability to play like tigers. They need a strong leader. Younis Khan is too fickle. We need someone like Imran, Maybe Shoaib Malik is better after all!!!!

  • Ronney on June 8, 2009, 7:36 GMT

    A pathetic Coward performanceby the Team.Everyone Forgot the Main Culprit of this performance.The PCB Chairman,Ijaz Butt,he has given Pakistani Cricket, Shock after shock in very little time.He must be removed immediatly, for the sake of Pakistani Cricket's Future or Otherwise there shall be no one to play cricket in Pakistan

  • V A KRISHNAN on June 8, 2009, 7:36 GMT

    I wouldn't entirely blame Pak players for the defeat. You cannot take the credit away from the aggressive English game that was witnessed today which put the Pak players out of circulation. Younis Khan of course tried his best along with Salman Butt and Shoaib Malik but the 180+ was looking to be an imposing total. Better luck next time to Pak.

  • Ali Vaqar Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:34 GMT

    Pakistan team looked helpless and weak. Meaning not at thier best. Now I fear Pakistan will even not make it to super 8. Its based on the logic that our team looked below par in two warm up matches. Totally worst against England. Against Netherland Pakistan will find more hard time. Even if they get past them then super 8 will be totally tough. Our team needs to show more agression in batting, bowling and fielding. Younis Khan is totally a useless captain who knows nothing about captaincy. Shoaib Malik should have been appointed captain. Also wrong players were selected. Naveed Latif and Mohammad Hafeez deserved selection. Having Razzaq, Mohammad Yosaf and Imran Nazir our team would have been strengthened. Shame on selectors for selecting such a pathatic squad who made mockery of themsleves. Now only prayers can save Pakistan team.

  • JACK on June 8, 2009, 7:33 GMT

    In My Opnion The Match Between England and Pakistan Was Booked..Just to Put Holland Out...Pakistan will win tomrrow with huge margin.. and will go to next round.....

  • Madhar Sahib on June 8, 2009, 7:32 GMT

    pakistan should bring imran nazir,razzak, rana the ICL players back in team. now a days other teams even bangla, west indies are havin stron 20-/20 side,. team which pakistan had before ten years would have been well suited to this format with anwar,ijaz,inzi,moin,akram,razak,afridi. even now they can form a formidable team provided if ICL players r back,. the captaincy should get changed ,.... hope to see old rivalries between india n pakistan,, .

  • Dr. Mubahir Hanif on June 8, 2009, 7:32 GMT

    Assalmaoalikum! The PCB and Pakistan have one thing in common, NO RULE OF LAW;damn it. Have the guys been chosen on merit?The likes of Imran nazir,Imran Farhat, Abdul Razzaq, Rana Naveed and Muhammad Yusuf, the most run getter and the most insulted by PCB. Lahore badshas could easily beat this team up. No merit, so take it now.If you argue, lets play with the cards in hand. Sohail Tanveer the best bowler of the year 2008 IPL, how could you demoralize him so much?If I wanted to try my bench strength, i would have gone for fawad alam instead of Ahmed shehzad. open with Sohail and Amir, bring in Gul and the spinners and finish it off with Sohail as he was fatal in the death overs in the IPL 2008. I bet you the captain doesnt know the strength of his team or he would not suicide. And its always pressure on chasing team even if its 160+, why on earth you field first?was run rate taken to account?Learn and learn FAST or then andas and tamatars are waiting back home.Pakistan zinda baad.peace

  • JAY on June 8, 2009, 7:31 GMT

    weLL I think Imran Nazir nd Razzaq should b replaced by poor Yasir Arafat nd Salman Butt. Salman Butt cannot even field properly nd we all know Imran Nazir iz a brilliant fielder as well as a batsman.Razzaq dont need any introduction he is the master of the game...wat dO yu say guyz?

  • john on June 8, 2009, 7:31 GMT

    how can you expect the current pakis to win..they only know to play with the GUNs and not BAT and BALL

  • sam on June 8, 2009, 7:31 GMT

    How can such a man be made captain who terms an event as huge as a world cup as fun event. he is saying he wont be sad if Pakistan doesnt make it to Super 8s. Is he joking ? Pakistan cricket is a big joke this days. No matter when the jokers like Ijaz Butt and Javed Miandad are at the helm, this is bound to happy. And why is even Afridi playing ? And why no Sohail Tanveer?

  • Mujtuba on June 8, 2009, 7:30 GMT

    The way Pakistani played, i feel sorry to be their supporter. I wud ve preferred watching an indian movie than watch the match. The way they played made everyone sppechless. The team is not even fit to play a 50 over match. None of the openers have the fire power to hit a six and they are opening. For Kamran Akmal they had laid a proper plan and he fell into the trap. Shahid Afridi is a hopeless case. Younis may have scored but those runs were useless as they had nothing in them. Mishab was sent too late in the order. OOOps out batting is over. Not a single player that u can give credit to. In contrast when u look at even Bangladesh, they have six hitters at the top. My God where is this team going ....

  • beenod on June 8, 2009, 7:28 GMT

    What has gone wrong wid Pakistan??? Why r they; wid that glorious history, playin such pittyful cricket! Awful, absolutly awful!!! What the Pakistan Cricket Team's think tank iz thinking... Why r they bein so cruel to the likes of Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat etc. who has done so well in IPL!? Even the current team iz not that much bad, as the result showed; they r jus nowhere playing to their potential. Somebody go n tell them they still have it in them to knock the better teams in cricketing world, Younis inspire your team coz T20 iz not a joke, not at all, no way...

  • Muhammad Faisal on June 8, 2009, 7:28 GMT

    The current Pkistan team shows exactly what they are capable to perform. Starting line Salman Butt and and Ahmed shahzad are simply not capable of doing what is required from them and surely not in future as well. Any team who want to win a particular type of Match should be selected likewise. The decision of omission of players like Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq and Shoaib Akhtar is entitled to be a result like what Pakistan has achieved in England so far. The PCB, its management and selection committee has a mojority of ex-cricketers who produce nothing for Pakistan as cricketers. When we see Saleem Altaf speaking against legendary Waqar Younis and Ijaz Butt deciding the fate for all time great Javed Miandad we should not expect any good results.

  • Yasser Masood on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    Good comments all the way and very constructive. In the end here are a few things we ought to consider when it comes to our team:

    1. To figth as a cornered tiger, the tiger must be cornered first. That point has come.

    2. Netherlands can beat England but won't stand a chance given the quality bowling attack that is available. They won't exceed 120 runs and that too if they are lucky.

    3. The team's batting order as well as bowling order is a mess and must be improved. Pakistan need to get Umar Gul to start their attack with M. Amir, followed by Afridi and Ajmal. Shoaib should not bowl and Sohail must be played. M. Amir should finish is overs all of them in the first eight. These five will take us through.

    4. Batting order: Afridi, Akmal, Misbah, Younis, Shoaib, Sohail, and the rest (try a few fiery street smart batsmen!!! Did we bring any along, the real T20ers?

    5. Have Younis sit the bench and get Misbah to take over. Even Afridi will do as a blazing life pumping captain!

    Go win!

  • Amjad Ali on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    "Aim for moon and u reach the stars... Yunus Khan's Aim itself was just to reach Final Fours... Even Scotland can aim to win the cup but yunus can't... With politics and ego Pak will get nowhere.. Where are Imran nazir, razzaq, yusuf.. If Pak has to loose only then why not with all new and inexperienced players, why to have Afridi, Malik, yunus, akmal in the team... change full time, take all new players, because result will be same in any case, Pak will loose... but at least all these big morons will learn a lesson

  • Junade on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    The likes of akmal, butt and afridi are washed up has beens especially afridi. He can only hit fresh air for sixes now. I asked the national selector why they keep selecting akthar and afridi for internationals. He said they bring in the crowds. I'm sorry but know crowds want to see brainless ageing incompetence.

  • FN on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    We will win this world cup! I have no doubt in my mind. I just got enlightened in my dream about the same. :-)

  • Khalid Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    They play just like a county team. I can bet that our team at a village may have better performance than the current one. When all the teams including the minnows like Scotland and Netherland produce big shot but our players are struggling on the pitch for survival. It is clearly and visibly one of the worst team Pakistan ever produced. I will be glad if it lost to Netherlands too because then we will have left best team in the tournment. Bye Bye Pakistan Cricket.

  • Farooq Umer on June 8, 2009, 7:27 GMT

    Being a Pakistani and big fan of Pak cricket team I dont have words to show my sorrow. But one thing I want to know why they are ignorinig Fawad Alam? even he showed lot of character in all kind of domestic cricket and in international whenever he got chance. As per my cricket understanding we dont need regular openers in T20 tournament. Afridi and Akmal are the good options for the openers (they can play 6 overs easily) and inclusion of Fawad will strengthen middle order.

  • Ikhlaq on June 8, 2009, 7:26 GMT

    poooooooooooor very pooooooooooor.this team cannot win even a single match.it should be available the players like Imran Nazir,Abdul Razaq and Rana Naveed for the T20 specially

  • Mohammad Tanweer Eqbal on June 8, 2009, 7:26 GMT

    Mr yunis khan to quit for next match as a captain Misbah to take the rein, Afridi the giant of talent should open with Kamran akmal, Suhail Tanweer is an absolute must,Aamir the talented kid should sit and learn the technique Misbah the mastermind of batting should come at one down Yasir Araft should go to Pakistan for vacation can only do some thing good on the cards otherwise the worse is yet to come on next match with the Ducth. I am from Patna India I dont know where are Abdul Razak and Mohammad Yusuf even today no one can even come close to Razak as an allrounder.dear pakistani selectors pl giveup munshi giri and select the the right talent its not a joke its a serious business as now a days cricket means huge amount of money just after the glory which at least can do some thing good for pakistani players.

  • Shahzad Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:24 GMT

    I don't have words to describe the pathetic display of batting and fielding. It was a case of spineless cricket from our "heroes". Yasir Arafat inclusion was a mistake as he should have been replaced by Sohail Tanvir. I really don't understand one thing: Why Misbah is being sent down the order as he is the only batsman who can secure one end and do the big hitting later. It is mind boggling to see Shahid Afridi come before Misbah. Afridi as a batsman, is finished and we should not "rely" on his batting or expect any miracles from him. Ahmed Shahzad is too young to be in this team as he cannot take the pressure and crumbles under pressure as we have seen him against Australia (Dubai), against India and now against England. Our captain's comments that T20 is "fun and should not be taken seriously" tells me that he is living in another world and does not deserve to be captain of the side. Personally speaking, I don't think they deserve to win and go forward in the tournament.

  • Faisal Fareed on June 8, 2009, 7:23 GMT

    Friends, it's just about common sense and nothing else... When you (captain) know that opponents are down and under immense pressure, instead of choking them out you gave them breathing space to relax and kick your ***.... This is simply unacceptable. I cannot understand why Sohail Tanvir was not given a chance??? Why Butt is always opted when everybody know he is good for nothing.... Why specialist bowlers are not used when needed... and most shameful thing, how can u laugh at your fielder's mistakes? Seems that do not remember the way Imran Khan and Wasim Akram used to react to such stupidities.... We need a true leader and unfortunately I cannot see none in the current Squad...

  • Umair Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 7:23 GMT

    Here we are again; the Pakistan Cricket Team has lost disgracefully and disappointed the fans.

    The Fans of the Pakistan Cricket team are disappointed not because Pakistan lost but because we are disheartened due to the sad fight the team put forward. The Pakistan fans have grown and know that in a game one team will win and one will lose, all we ask is to show dignity in winning or losing.

    Pakistan was outdone in all areas, Fielding, Bowling, Batting and Captaincy.

    All I can hope is the smiling Yonus Khan, who was once praised by all the Pakistani Fans, remembers what it feels like being in a team with the PASSION to win no matter what.

    All I can do as a Pakistani Fan is pray that this turns out like the 1992 World Cup, when we beat all odds and win!!!

    *Sigh* Imran's Tigers we MISS YOU!!!

  • Aman on June 8, 2009, 7:21 GMT

    I have Faith in Pakistan and Believe in Pakistan, I hope they do turn up against Holland unlike they did against England. I just believe younis khan wants to prove a point to the media and everyone who criticizes him by doing exactly what his critics warn him to do... like opening the Bowling with Arafat or dropping Sohail Tanvir or Keep playing Salman Butt... we descirbe such captains as "Khalifa" back home who do not listen to anyone's advise. i blame the PCB for not having the balls to sort out the ICL a few days earlier so they could have picked probably the best 3 T20 players in Asia if not the world, i.e. I.nazir, Razzak and Rana Naved. what a difference these 3 would have made, but our board spineless as always could not stand up to the ICC(BCCI!!!) and get these players into this side. the calculation done by 'nash' and 'israr' are indeed correct, according to my estimation as well pakistan need to win by a net runrate of atleast +1.25. Anything is Possible, Common Pakistan!!!

  • Manzar on June 8, 2009, 7:21 GMT

    couple of points to previous comments: If NED makes anything between 95 - 140 Pakistan need to win in 16.5 Overs

    However, we NED score more than 150 then we need to win in 17 overs 160 then we need to win in 17.1 Overs 170 then we need to win in 17.2 Overs

  • arif on June 8, 2009, 7:21 GMT

    Forget about fire. No spark. It was cold all along. I am not a Pakistani but have been following their cricket since childhood. It was absolutely disgraceful to watch the Pakistanis playing like ducks. 'Afridi'- a sure talent have been used dreadfully over the years by the PCB. The coaches have played too much with his head over the years, which destroyed his natural instinct to hit the ball. Look at the IND/SA stars, not only they play cricket physically but mentally as well. PCB cannot have their mindset stuck in 80s-90's ideology. In the entire T20 format, Afridi could have been used as an opener with the fielding restrictions on. Pakistan needs a smart captain. Just look into the eyes of Dhoni/Ponting, you will see the difference. The current Pakistani team looks like a malnourished horse that hasn’t eaten in days. Win or loose but put up a fight. PCB, please put the right people in the right place for Pakistan’ cricket legacy. Otherwise, shame’ is what’s written all over.

  • atif on June 8, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    Agreed, Imran Nazir is the one who can at least take Pakistan team into final four....there should be Razzaq as well......even current Pakistan team cant beat Lahore Badshah....poor Captaincy specially laughing on miss field...totally rubbish..i dont know what younis khan wants to prove by laughing on pathetic fielding, batting and bowling...........Pakistan has no planning and preparation at all...they only went to pass for summer vacation or recreation trip in England.....Pakistan never deserve to go in super-8 round with this type of team.......

  • Bilal Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    Let's face the fact that its a game & only one side can win but why is Pakistan always the losing side. The answer is plain and simple, no strategy, no plan and above all lack of leadership.The game started with mistakes.Winning the toss and letting England bat was like giving the game in a plate. England, to stay in the tournament,had to put up fight with every tooth n nail, it was so obvious but yet again, mistakes followed. Sloppy fielding, dropped catches and brining the wrong bowler at the wrong time shows Younis not being competant enough for his rank.Drop Butt in games to follow, open with Kamran & Ahmad. Let Afridi have a go at the spinners. In short, shuffle the batting order and please go after every bass as its not a 5 day match. Let Gul & Tanvir open the bowling attack, bring Afridi & Saeed Ajmal in the attack after the 6th over and give the ball to Arafat once its old. And please, next time if you win the toss, bat first as our team is not customed to chasing big totals.

  • kashif on June 8, 2009, 7:20 GMT

    Well, no doubt Pakistan failed in every department,dont you think we have seen this before---a dejavu---there are many who would say that in the times of Wasim and Waqar we used to fight but I would differ,our cricket history after Imran Khan has quite a few of these incidents,the only diference though is Younis Khan --a pathetic speaker to say the least,letrs hope the administaration/management appoints someone else to do the pre and post match interviews/press conference. AND LETS HOPE PAKISTAN DOES DEFEAT HOLLAND BY A GOOD MARGIN--WE HAVE SEEN QUITE ALOT OF THESE PERFORMANCES--BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN OPTIMISTIC--LETS NOT LOOSE HOPE.

  • Noor Ullah on June 8, 2009, 7:19 GMT

    Pathetic YK,what you think the 12 Nations have come for,is just for entertainment?why the world is log on to tv,internet,reading newspapers just to read your rubbish comments or do you think we log on to see your rubbish smile on tv????remember if you are younas khan.remember you are not joker and also not playing in circus.its cricket whatever type it is,we want to see our nation proud.for God sake come back you are already a loser.shame shame shame

  • Youhana on June 8, 2009, 7:18 GMT

    Well,Younas & Co. have shown pathetic cowardness & Un-professionalism.Guys,You all have forgotten the main Culprit of this Sorry Performance.He is our PCB chairman,the Stupid Clean Shaved Santa Claus,Mr.Ijaz Butt.This saga of Shamefulness might continue,if he is not Removed from this important post, very soon.

  • Syed Haider on June 8, 2009, 7:17 GMT

    For God's sake I request PCB to recall Imran Nazir & Imran Farhat to open the innings. and Yousaf & Razzaq also. Our current team is totally spineless. The openers have strike rate of less than 100 in a 20/20. duh...Salman Butt should not just be left put of the team, he should be fired, contract terminated, PERMANENTLY. And giving chances to these 17 y.o.s in a WC is pathetic. Let them grow in the domestic tournaments for a while instead of humiliating them in front of millions. And what is the news about Mohd. Asif. Is he alive. He is the best bowler of Pakistan. Yes he needs a good psychiatrist & physiotherapist who can clear his mind of drugs etc. Younis Khan needs to step up his game & his captaincy to show to the world that he is a "KHAN". And last but certainly not the least, the title of Afridi should be changed from "BOOM BOOM AFRIDI" to "BOO BOO AFRIDI".

  • Hasan Pasha on June 8, 2009, 7:17 GMT

    Twenty20 is more for entertainment, even if it is international cricket - Younis khan What a stupid comment! Upon leaving Pakistan they had boasted that they r going to provide smiles on our faces during this gloomy period, & look what they r doing? Adding salt to injury!! Pathetic performance. All of them should be ashamed of themselves.

  • sanjay on June 8, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    What I don't understand why is everybody not understanding something, while watching the game yesterday what I really felt was England & Pakistan want Netherland out so they gifted the game to England. I'm sure the way Pakistan play Netherland it will be whole different ball game from pakistan. Have a feeling they will win against Netherland & win big so they could bet Netherland on the net run rate. That is what I feel, don't know how much everyone will agree to this

  • nabeel Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    To all those who are predicting run rates, do we actually deserve to be in 2nd round by beating Netherlands (which i still doubt given the team we have)? I bet it will rain and pakistan will be down and out (for some good)...the pathetic shambles that PCB is they need to own some responsibility for the severe decline in Pakistan cricket...they have destroyed the careers of excellent attacking cricketers like Razzaq, Imrans (Nazir & Farhat), Rana Naveed, Asif etc (just to name a few) thanks largely to their willingness to kiss up to BCCI, who by the way hav wanted to expedited the decline in our ability to compete...any1 who argues these players betrayed the country by playing for ICL...wat do u do when u do not get a job in Pakistan? u look for opportunities elsewhere for survival,we all do it then y blame them,dropping razzaq from the '07 T20 was a no brainer which started the whole idea, PCB officials: if u hav any shame please bring these players back in team or keep playing minnows

  • Obaid on June 8, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    I dont know since when Younis has become so inserious..he has an inserious attitude.there was a time when I really liked him for his serious attitude..but yesterday when Gul misfielded and let the ball go to boundary..you cud see younis smiling about tht..i mean wht is tht?? i personally think we should stop wasting our time,money and other resources on pak cricket team...I had been very optimistic abt them...even when ppl said tht pakistan wud lose..I wud alwayz back these guyz..but I think when u see inserious attitude.."terming a WC as fun".."smiling abt misfields", no commitment and no fight then for me its time to stop wasting my resources over them. I pray to ALLAH tht we beat Holland and reach the next stage..but the current performances tells me this is very unlikely..I donot know whats going in their (the camp) but I am sure tht our players are now least concerned abt the emotions of the ppl watching them.

  • Nawed on June 8, 2009, 7:15 GMT

    dear friends. Pakistan's best bet now is that Salman Butt gets injured, and Imran Nazir is the replacement. and Shoaib Malik gets injured and Abdul Razzaq(not to be mistaken for the great Bangaladeshi spinner) comes in for him. Also, if Afridi is coming in at no 5-7, and scoring 5-7 runs before getting caught at the boundary, might as well have him open the innings, who knows he might score 15-20 quick runs, and there will be less fielders at the boundary in the first 6 overs. Younis, if you know how to use the internet and if you are reading this, dost, think outside the box, give us something different. beat the shi out of the guys who drop catches. see u later guys....... . and its just a game ppl take it easy. live a little..... and get over Imran khan and Javed and Wasim and Waqar. although in my book Moin Khan was the best.

  • Bhaozain Babar on June 8, 2009, 7:14 GMT

    What is this team doing, we don't find any seriousness in their attitude towards T20. This is the world cup and our team is in a shamble. Moreover Pakistan had a local T20 tournment just before the world cup and the best players in that tournment have not been included. Why??? Abdul Razzak, Imran Nazir were among the best batsmen and they are not included in the side even though both have severed ties with the illegal ICL a while back. Moreover if the captain of the side cannot give importance to the tournment then how does he expect his side to perform well. Pakistan team...Pathetic to say the least

  • sheikh danish mazhar on June 8, 2009, 7:13 GMT

    poor captaincy,non serious attitude and wrong selection of players,that sums it up pakistan team for me in this T20 worldcup.Younis khan is a big disappointment as a captain.

  • Samreen on June 8, 2009, 7:13 GMT

    Did'nt understand why YK choose to filed first.., Wasn't he aware that scoring runs without pressure is easy and then putting pressure on the England side by balling was a good strategy... one or two dot balls would have done the trick... Another mistake was starting the balling attack with Yasir... It just came to my mind (What type of decision is this ...) and than all the decisions were wrong... I mean, not picking Sohail Tanvir.., not continuing with Umer Gull and bringing on Shoaib Malik... and above all... Laughing at the miss field from Umer Gull... Worst ever fielding from the team was a nice gift... and than when it comes to batting...taking singles... even with 6 wickets in hand they were not able to hit boundaries... and then all rounders in the end should have tried to score more (for run rate purposes)... I think the ground was too big for them to hit sixes... and even too big for them to field... Shamefull, all team was looking tired as if they have played 5 test matches.

  • Imran Malik on June 8, 2009, 7:11 GMT

    One word to describe Pakistan's captain "Pathetic". Apart from his comments after match his conduct during the match describes his dismissive behavior towards game. Following are few of his blunders

    1. Choosing to bowl without considering South Africa's assault in earlier match played on same pitch. 2. Not Including Sohail Tanveer (one of the best bowlers in the side) in playing eleven. 3. Replacing Umar Gul after his wicket taking over. 4. Asking Shoaib Malik to bowl instead of Saeed Ajmal or Afridi. 5. Laughing at fielding mistakes.

    He was equally pathetic during batting.

    1. Sticking with Butt even after his performance in the practice games. 2. Sending Malik up the order instead of Misbah and then joining Malik and completely diminishing the chances.

    Given his performance in the match there are only two possibilities of this massive failure either he is keen to destroy player power or he is a below average individual (which he certainly is).

  • Syed Ali on June 8, 2009, 7:11 GMT

    Three massive in a row!!! Depsite being shamful, the CAPTAIN is claiming its fun and not cricket. Does he deserve to be in the team with this attitude. 160 million idiots who are praying and waiting anxiously to see their team at least fighting, these comments are beyong imagination & acceptance. If PCB has even littlest of concern over the emotions of a dejected and deprived nation, this CAPTAIN should be sacked right away. If the team is sent for fun after spending million of ruppees on training and preparation, the same should be spent on people living in camps in NWFP. The entire nation needs an appology from Younis Khan and expects the least to step down immediately. A captain with no game plan, only smiles and high talks in press conferences is not at all required for further humiliation.

  • Shaheen on June 8, 2009, 7:10 GMT

    There just isnt one place that can be pinpointed for this shambles of a perfomance.

    1. The PCB needs to be replaced. Bring in Imran Khan to spearhead the PCB!

    2. Bring back the ICL players. The likes of Mohammed Yousuf, Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzaq, Rana Naved, Shabbir Ahmed.

    3. Get back Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammed Asif.

    4. Bring specialist fielding coaches and bowling coaches, the likes of Jonty Rhodes, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis.

    5. Sort the team selection out, have a game plan, have a bowling plan, have a batting plan! Why did Yasir Arafat open the bowling! Why was Sohail Tanvir not selected! Why did Shahid Afridi go in before Misbah Ul Haq when Afridi is off form!

    6. Sort out proper training regimes and diets. This will keep players fitter!

    7 Anything else I have missed?!

  • Kashif on June 8, 2009, 7:09 GMT

    If given a chance I would go with: Akmal, Butt, Younis, Malik, Misbah, Fawad, Afridi, Tanvir, Gul, Amir & Ajmal.. with the idea of going for kill from the first ball, not to save wickets for last 5 as it may be tooooo late. Pathetic captainship without inspiration and logic

  • Syed Zeeshan Ali on June 8, 2009, 7:09 GMT

    Can we think younas has space in Squad of T20? and he is captain of T20. His one day average less than Abdur Razaq and Shoaib Malik,strike rate is also good. They are also very good bowler. When he come strike required 10 and he is on pitch clime to 15 plus ....what he is doing at ground. Younas no six in his played 31 balls. He is only one day player.

  • Aamer on June 8, 2009, 7:09 GMT

    Pakistani team will return back on Wednesday. Not all the team will travel togather. Some players will land in lahore, some in karachi while some will stay back in UK. Upon their return there will be a huge hue and cry in the media, a few statements from the PCB and then they will tell us that they forget whatever happened in this T20 World Cup and they have started the preparations and are eyeing on the next World Cup where Pakistan will emerge as a different team. :-)

  • anand on June 8, 2009, 7:09 GMT

    Cheer up Guys! I am from india. Despite their poor performance in last match against Eng, I stil back them to make it to super eights. They do have enough fir-power to do so. Lets hope the asian gaints make it to cracker of a final like last year. Bcos nothing else can match the aura of that cricketing spectacle.

  • Bilal on June 8, 2009, 7:08 GMT

    None of you understand that its not the players, its the coach that needs to be sacked. We need a better coach who has new ideas and can improve the team, not some 60 year old who can't even run.

  • Murad Somani on June 8, 2009, 7:08 GMT

    once again, again and again, the unpredictability continues... we are tired of this.. winning an almost lost match and losing a crucial match.. It doesnt matter to the players and the management, they just know how to waste money and demoralizing the fans.. Hopeless team..

  • Mohamed Feroj on June 8, 2009, 7:08 GMT

    Pakistan lost the match from the time they decided to bowl first after winning d toss.It is a well known factor that the England team is under pressure in a must win match.So why did d pakistan team management decided to bowl first on a good batting wicket.If pakistan batted first & put up a score of even 160,would have been a winning score bcoz when chasing with elimination in mind England could struggle to chase.Also what did Younus Khan told after winning d toss? He spoke about rain factor & d DL method.But while they were batting it does'nt seems that they mind about d DL or Run rate matter.Also first of all Younus khan & few other players in d Pak.Squad are not suitable for T20 matches at all.Instead pakistan could have send a domestic T20 team.Pakistan captain & d rest of players should get a cue from d netherland team members on how to play an international T20 game.The present team plays like a bunch of jokers.Now its time to think of fresh youngsters with talent to be included

  • Fawad on June 8, 2009, 7:07 GMT

    Its better if Pakistan give Netherlands a chance to qualify and stop the struggle (misery).

    This atleast will give PCB a wake up call that they don't have the right team. Get back some people from ICL and you'll have something that will work out for a while before getting new guys in.

    Secondly, this will also take away the burden of watching Pakistan matches as Pakistani supporters. We'll enjoy the tournament without Pakistan involvement like IPL. No pressure and good nite sleep. ;)

  • sam on June 8, 2009, 7:06 GMT

    may be pakistani got signal from their US & UK, bosses to loose this matches. pak cannot dare to win against england otherwise they loose all their donations.

  • vikash on June 8, 2009, 7:06 GMT

    I think, IPL will play a big roll in this tournament. All the players who participated in IPL are charged up and have faced the tough conditions. Pakistan lacks that experience and I doubt only miracle will lead them to semis.

  • Aman on June 8, 2009, 7:06 GMT

    I have Faith in Pakistan and Believe in Pakistan, I hope they do turn up against Holland unlike they did against England. I just believe younis khan wants to prove a point to the media and everyone who criticizes him by doing exactly what his critics warn him to do... like opening the Bowling with Arafat or dropping Sohail Tanvir or Keep playing Salman Butt... we descirbe such captains as "Khalifa" back home who do not listen to anyone's advise. i blame the PCB for not having the balls to sort out the ICL a few days earlier so they could have picked probably the best 3 T20 players in Asia if not the world, i.e. I.nazir, Razzak and Rana Naved. what a difference these 3 would have made, but our board spineless as always could not stand up to the ICC(BCCI!!!) and get these players into this side. the calculation done by 'nash' and 'israr' are indeed correct, according to my estimation as well pakistan need to win by a net runrate of atleast +1.25. Anything is Possible, Common Pakistan!!!

  • Majid Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:06 GMT

    What you expect from paying a gulli cricket and international cricket. Gulli cricket is more serious where you have to play for you area pride and internatioanl cricket is being played for fun.Mr younus i think you should consider palying gulli cricket become serious and play international cricket.such a loser comments.you had a shattered team who knewed that they have to lose. no game spirit was there , and also yasir arafat saeed jamal salman should be kept out atleast they do some practice and play rather they have big sources behind them to play in pakistan team.i pray that you guys qualify for super eight.

  • Arif on June 8, 2009, 7:05 GMT

    Forget about fire… No spark.. It was cold all along. I am not a Pakistani but I have been following their cricket since childhood. It was absolutely disgraceful to watch the Pakistanis playing like ducks against the English players. 'Afridi'- a natural talent have been used dreadfully over the years by the PCB. PCB and the coaches have played too much with his head over the years, which destroyed his natural instinct to hit the ball. We see him coming in different batting orders, which is totally rubbish. There is no doubt that he has talent but I would dare to compare him with the new Indian/SA stars who not only play cricket physically but mentally as well. PCB cannot have their mindset stuck in 80s-90's ideology. In the entire T20 format, Afridi could have been easily used as an opener with all the fielding restrictions. At the end of the day, I'd have to say that the Pakistani team needs a smart captain Just look into the eyes of Dhoni or Ponting, you will see the difference. The current Pakistani team looks like a malnourished horse that hasn’t eaten in days. It’s really sad to watch them. Win or loose but please put up a fight. And PCB, please put the right people in the right place for Pakistan’s cricket legacy. Otherwise, ‘shame’ is what’s written all over.

  • souravsenthil on June 8, 2009, 7:05 GMT

    i think pakistan should go to home,no unique in the team,they need to improve all the arias like batting,bowling,fielding,totaly waste,younis khan is stupid captain,compare than pakistan netherland good team,no chance to win against netherland,if they win they wont qualify in super eight,becacuse they need to win 60 runs margin,no chance,no batsman there,bye bye pakistan,hahahaha

  • Imran Afzal on June 8, 2009, 7:04 GMT

    What they really mean - Intros for Pak batsmen... Hi I am Ahmed Shehzad - dont know who to look to for inspiration in this team - my favorite mode of dismissal is a random shot in the sky

    Hi I am Salman Butt - favourite shot is wherever most fielders are standing waiting for my little lob - my hobbies are watching paint dry

    Hi I am Kamran Akmal - God knows who will save me from these captains but my favourite shot is not on any pitch where the ball comes above ankle high...

    Hi I am Shoaib Malik - My favourite cricketer is Mickey Mouse and one of these days I will hit a six - until then here 's another nudge for - well no run - atleast I retained the strike ?

    Hi I am Younis Khan - favourite shot is a reverse sweep which I will play to the other teams satisfaction - if that fails, watchout for my awesome smile, followed by nothing....

    Hi I am Misbah - my favourite batsmen is Shahid Afridi...

    Hi I am Shahid Afridi - my favourite shot is played with eyes closed - my favourite player

  • zeeshan on June 8, 2009, 7:04 GMT

    the way pak lost the match,SHAMELESS with no brains..after the toss younis said that they are fielding first bcz of the D/L ,if the rain comes they can calculate the target...but after 6 overs when there was a slight drizzle and pak was behind on D/L in the 7th over instead of getting ahead on D/L younis and shoaib malik were pinching singles.....i think either they were blind or they already gave up...and all the management outside ,coach manager and analyst are very weak in maths...?yasir arafat got out in the 19th over to make it worse on the net run rate to loose a wicket..there is a no place for butt,shahzad, yasir and even younis khan in t20 team...winning the toss and fielding,,giving the newball to yasir arafat,first change bowler shoaib malik when u have 2 specialist spinners,dropping simple catches...and in batting wasting the first 6 overs of powerplay...im still sure that they will win against holland with more than 30 or 40 runs.but there should be some game plan.

  • Arif on June 8, 2009, 7:03 GMT

    Forget about fire… No spark.. It was cold all along. I am not a Pakistani but I have been following their cricket since childhood. It was absolutely disgraceful to watch the Pakistanis playing like ducks against the English players. 'Afridi'- a natural talent have been used dreadfully over the years by the PCB. PCB and the coaches have played too much with his head over the years, which destroyed his natural instinct to hit the ball. We see him coming in different batting orders, which is totally rubbish. There is no doubt that he has talent but I would dare to compare him with the new Indian/SA stars who not only play cricket physically but mentally as well. PCB cannot have their mindset stuck in 80s-90's ideology. In the entire T20 format, Afridi could have been easily used as an opener with all the fielding restrictions. At the end of the day, I'd have to say that the Pakistani team needs a smart captain Just look into the eyes of Dhoni or Ponting, you will see the difference. The current Pakistani team looks like a malnourished horse that hasn’t eaten in days. It’s really sad to watch them. Win or loose but please put up a fight. And PCB, please put the right people in the right place for Pakistan’s cricket legacy. Otherwise, ‘shame’ is what’s written all over.

  • Ansar on June 8, 2009, 7:03 GMT

    I have read all the comments. I think main problem lies with PCB, with nonsense selectors. U look that Nazir,Razzaq ICL issue resolved now just after selecting final squad for T-20. I thnk that may b resolved before selecting the squad. For my liking these above mentioned guys should b included alongwith Nasir Jamshed. Any how good luck for Pak as they are more likely to be eliminated from first round.

  • amit on June 8, 2009, 7:01 GMT

    I think pakistan have to change their attitude,pakistan team was known for their killing instinct (missing badly in current team). lift your spirit, you can still do the miracle, surely not with the comments of younis khan that T20 is fun game or we want to finish 4th. gear up

  • Yamin Abbasi on June 8, 2009, 7:01 GMT

    Before get the captaincy we all think that will be the best captain for pak team.... but as time to time we all now what capabilities he has... Younis asways making the stories and try to hide his team deficiencies.after losing game from south africa he said team is tired after long travelled to england..after lost from india he said this is just warm up game and he is making game planning... he is fucking bull shit captain even dont know how to use the his bowlers.. and while batting he is too slow.. he is the first paki captain who doesnt have brain... our captain have no place for himself in T20 game.. he is only test and OID average (not a good one)player. Opening combination also not for this short version of the game... we need openers like Imran Nazir with kamran akmal... and Abdul Razzaq in replace of Yasir Arafat.. Younis and Ahmed should take rest for test... Yamin

  • giri on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    there was a old joke doing the rounds in the ICL that the Lahore Badshahs were better than the pak team. by the evidence on display on sunday, this might cease to be a joke. also, i dont think younis should come before kamran. kamran is much more attacking and can make best use of the powerplays.

  • Kashif on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    The problem with Pakistan team is that they are clueless about their combinations, their approach and their objective. Captainship is reckless and selection is also pethetic. Like Ahmed Shahzad with a strike rate of 33 should not be even in England rather then in the team. I do not think they can improve in the coming times.

  • souravsenthil on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    i think pakistan should go to home,no unique in the team,they need to improve all the arias like batting,bowling,fielding,totaly waste,younis khan is stupid captain,compare than pakistan netherland good team,no chance to win against netherland,if they win they wont qualify in super eight,becacuse they need to win 60 runs margin,no chance,no batsman there,bye bye pakistan,hahahaha

  • Zubair Khan on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    Guys I think that Pakistan team is still a good team, shoaib malik, Afridi, younis, kamran akmal, umar gul, salman butt, misbah everybody was there 2 years ago when we reached the world cup final and lost it while battling all the way! this is the same team, but the problem is not the playing 11, the problem is the captaincy! Younis's captaincy is the worst I have witnessed in the history of Pakistan! he lacks the brain to play in 20/20 and doesnt even deserve a place in this version but still he is our captain!!! thats bullshit.. decisions like opening the bowling with yasir arafat and resting players like Sohail Tanvir who could be a devastating force in swinging pitches and conditions in England is just not forgetable.. I wish that pakistani team get out of the tournament before they enter the 2nd round because we all know what would happen when they face South Africa, India and the likes of Gayle!...

  • Noman on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    PCB should send Lahore Badshah instead of this team.

  • Mobin on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    Misbah should be the captain of pakistan, younis open the inning with. The rain fall made it difficult to hit the wet and heavy ball out of the ground.

  • ajmal on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    Everybody talk about the failure of pakistan, that is ok but i think pakistan need support to come back in the game.

    I think most important think that cause problem is their bowling. what happened to them, i cant understand whats the problem with the spinners to give extras, and is that logical to include yasir in the team where you have sohail as well in the team. our captain nees support from the team which he is getting from the team speacially from vice captain and malik, these two should come forward to support their captain. i dont think there is any place for salman butt and yasir, instead they should introduce sohail and fawad/ shahzab. i hope they will win next game but i am sure they will not qualify to next round.

  • Ali Salman on June 8, 2009, 7:00 GMT

    Pak performance is now under clouds after get beaten from england by an enormous margin. I wold want to recommend younis to please place afridi in the top order with kamran akmal and the captain himself should come down to number 3. As we have seen that Salman butt plus Yasir arafat truly been worst performers of the game and must not even given them permission to stay in England. As far as captain is concerned he just here to hang out as well as to entertain the crowd with his weird looking tactics in the field.. Imran Nazir and Abdul razzak are the only players who deserves to be in and widout them pakistani team can never ever display fighting spirit as they have had in 90's...... I wish they gonna make it for the next round and do watever i said atleast it's gonna put a lill smile on pak fan's faces so GO PAK GO.......

  • Yasir Saleem on June 8, 2009, 6:59 GMT

    It was so strange that even non-cricket playing or non-cricket following people were asking questions like: Why Sohail Tanvir didnt play? Why Yasir started and continued to bowl? Why inexperienced players are making debuts in World Cup games? Does YK know the basics of field setting? Only YK, the admin and the Pak team management can solve these mysteries! The bunch are an absolute waste of time!

  • Efti on June 8, 2009, 6:59 GMT

    We have a problem with mind set of players and caiptan YK. Poor bowling selection, and not to forget bad bowling it self (no yorkers, no one sided bowling, no effective one sided bouncers). Batsmen were easily getting underneath the bowling to hit sixes. It was all party time when England was batting. Three games in a row, I noticed that our batsmen could not have the power in their strokes to put the bowl over the boundary when opposition gave them half volleys to hit. Instead, they all got out by catch in the middle of the filed or on the boundary. Seems like they dont know how to hit. You can not hit every bowl to boundary but when you can not hit the boundary, taking sharp singles is key and then hitting a boundary in every over is equation to winning. Otherwise, say good bye to this word cup hopes. Most likely, Pakistan would be out of the tournament even they win agianst Holland. YK is way too stupid to understand that winning was not really needed, only close match was required.

  • Tarique on June 8, 2009, 6:59 GMT

    To start with the PCB has it's head up in it's own Arse because it not only uneccessarily exposes personal and medical details of their players but dither over former icl players' return to international cricket so they are mainly to blame and the the players themselves are too busy being famous for nothing.I suggest Salman Butt should be dropped and Razzaq/ Yousuf should be drafted in asap. They can do the impossible but must apply themselves like when they won the world cup- they made England look very good KP would've been struggling if hadn't been for the shoddy bowling and fielding- COME ON PAK when you turn up on Tuesday against NL show your true character and do it under 20 overs.

  • Naveed Ahsan on June 8, 2009, 6:58 GMT

    Winning and losing is part of the game, but the way Pakistan lost is disgraceful. They all are mently so dump that they even do'nt know how to chase a target of 186. The team selection, the batting order, the bowling changes, the fielding all are so Pathetic and childish. They all need mental strength from any one/any where for the next match, otherwise its all over for pakistan in the first round as was in the One day world cup.

    I think in the next match they should play with the following eleven: In the Batting Order (Younus, Ahmed Shehzad, Shoaib Malik, Misba-ul-Haq, Fawad Alam, Shahid Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Yasir Arafat, Sohail Tanveer, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal)

    Shoaib and Misbah should be given time to settle and play. There is only one slot for THE CAPTAIN in 20 20 format that is to Open. Umer Gul and Soahil Tanveer Should be used as open bowlers.

    "A POINT WHICH WE ORDINARY PERSONS CAN UNDERSTAND IS NOT UNDERSTANABLE TO TEAM MANAGEMENT & CAPTAIN"

    WHY ? WHY ? WHY ? WHY ?

  • sumair on June 8, 2009, 6:58 GMT

    Pakistan team is plagued by grouping. they fight and support each other to stay in. malik , butt , akmal , misbah standing next to each other is a fine example. it is like pathan will support pathan. they have personal differences too and also younis khan captaincy and decisions on the field are poor.

    in the end i would say they are helpless cuz of poor government and management.

  • Intikhab kazi on June 8, 2009, 6:58 GMT

    continued.... can anyone tell me where is naser jamshed. U know i get the feeling that whoever performs good for pakistan won't be playing In pakistan. history shows from the likes of imran Nazir, imran farhat, Abdul razzak and the list goes on. YK should not be in the team at all. Misbah shuold be the captain for T20. get rid of afridi-no words cfor this guy, shoiab malik-pathetic, Butt Saheb-loser, YK- disgraceand get in Imran nazir, farhat, rana and abdulrazak. senior player is Misbah. can anyone pass these comments to the PCB or younus or afridi-transalated in urdu for them about what people actually think of them. please its a request. they need to hear the public. how can YK possibly say that its fun. He is a pathetic loser with no brains at all. i wish i was there to slap him when he said that. we want to have a good time for wht we spend on them both time and money. hello its not backyard cricket, its the World cup loser.

  • Noman on June 8, 2009, 6:56 GMT

    PCB should send Lahore Badshah instead of this team.

  • Abdul on June 8, 2009, 6:56 GMT

    We are students here in Australia and we spend our money and time on watching cricket. Even though we have examz period, but still we support our cricket nation and our country. A poor performance by our team simply show the lack of spirit and effort. A main concern was that pakistan didnt even got closer to the target. I would say younis khan and salman butt are not T20 player, selectors first stategy should be getting rid of them. Moreover, our pinch hitters like misbah ul haq and shahid afridi should come earlier in the line up. Umer Gul should bowl an attacking over. If pakistan team will play like this, then honestly there is no place for them in the world crciket and should play with kenya and bangladesh first to re establish the skills required for the game

  • Sameer on June 8, 2009, 6:55 GMT

    this time even I can't help myself as no single Pakistani can bear this shame and effort less show from our beloved team..cricketers give birth to cricketers..when your your generation watch you playing this way their passion will die and so will die CRICKET from PAKISTAN..may Allah bless our nation and our sports.

  • Imran on June 8, 2009, 6:55 GMT

    forget bowling and batting. My concern is with the fielding. What needs to be done to fix this aspect. I heard a Dutch player say that fielding is one part of the game where they can play with anyone in the world because practice makes perfect. They certainly showed that against England plus their running between the wickets was excellent. You can have all the talent in the world but its for not if you can't execute. I watched as a kid when Mianadad led Pakistan to victory in Sharjah from literally out of nowhere. And here we were today watching a pathetic display by players who looked like they were playing to make a quick buck. Losing is part of the game, everyone understands that. It's how the game is played that we are all interested in. Unfortunately, there are no quick lessons on the true essence of cricket that can be given to the men in green. They made a mess of it today. While tomorrow is another day, even the staunchest of supporters are not holding their breath.

  • Ali Imran on June 8, 2009, 6:54 GMT

    Cont.. I am sure with the same attitude and spirit they will definitely lose to Netherlands as well. If they have to win and play in next stage, they have to show lots of character and spirit as well as good captaincy.

  • shjamaly on June 8, 2009, 6:54 GMT

    the captain won the toss n elected to feld saying eng r the ones who r feeling pressure wont it b better if he batted n post a score of 150+ the english batsman would hve buckled under pressure,they should drop shoib malik who is scared to hit big shots,afridi wo is leaving on past reputation n butt who is a lousy batsmen n fielder n sos to imran nazir n abdul razzak

  • EAMiran on June 8, 2009, 6:53 GMT

    ----and I thought we were gulli dunda kings!

  • Ali Imran on June 8, 2009, 6:53 GMT

    Younis non professional approach started from the beginning when he won the toss and offer England to bat first and when weather condition was rainy – Shocking decesion. Second he rest Sohail Tanvir and played Yasir who already showed a poor performances in warm-up matches. Gul was bowling well picked up one wicket and Younis replaced him. Poor fielding placement strategy and above on player showed poor fielding and dropped four catches. Seriously they looked like not playing to win the match or even fight. In case of batting he sent and non experience 17 year to open a match with inconsistent under formed Salman butt. I never understand when Afridi always got catch out near boundary, why not they send him to open the match when there are not many fielders standing on the boundary. They started with below run rate average and keep it till the end, look like playing test macth. Misba should have sent before Younis and Malik.

  • NASZ on June 8, 2009, 6:53 GMT

    Younis is pathetic as capt , a person who says that no problem they arte losing they are just playing for fun. He is not even himself a player for t /2o and he is carrying a lot of such players. How can he forget about the whole nation who is watching the supposedly runner up of last world cup. The whole administration alongwith the team if captain is such a duffer cannot think that at least if you are not going to win go as near to England score so that we dont have to win with a big margin from Holland. They are paid so much and they even dont have common sense to go close to there score.

  • Moin on June 8, 2009, 6:53 GMT

    The Pakistani Captain has some attitude problem. When pakistan has played so little of international cricket, they had to lap this chance to prove the world their worth and instead Younis Khan's statement is horrible. Dont know why is PCB paying him when he came in for entertainment...Shoaib Malik was way better...atleast he was not a sore loser

  • Radha on June 8, 2009, 6:52 GMT

    This pakistan squad is stronger in paper only like what India had during 1990s.What India did for the T20 during last T20 world cup,just dropped all top oneday and test players including Sachin,Dravid,Ganguly,Laxman,kumble etc..and included new bloods.Same way Pakistan should do.During Imran and wasim akram periods you can see only fighting spirit on field.But this team is totally laughing even during misfielding.Pathetic.

  • Aamir Akhund on June 8, 2009, 6:51 GMT

    How is it possible that our captain keeps on bloody smiling even when we are droping catches. i know that we will be able to beat Neitherland and go to the next round, but what our dear team management failed to realise is that we will now have to face the likes of India, SA and Srilanka in the super eights. This should be the last time we have picked afridi, malik, misbah, Butt, etc. The only way we will improve is to bring in new boys and the ICL clan has got to be picked again.

  • Mashood on June 8, 2009, 6:51 GMT

    The dismissal of Kamran Akmal sums it up quite nicely, he literally played the same shot of Anderson for 3 successive deliveries before finally hitting it straight to the fielder. Why was Yasir Arafat played while Tanvir was not? Why is Fawad Alam not played in this format consistently despite being by far the best t20 all rounder in domestic t20 competitions in Pakistan? These are questions that must be asked of the Paki management. I feel bad for Yonis Khan, his players are simply not delivering, he isn't exactly a bad captain but we all know who is going to be blamed for this debacle.

  • sampdoria on June 8, 2009, 6:51 GMT

    I'd just like to know....how many 'Get Out of Jail Free' cards Afridi is carrying? At this stage, I reckon - quite a bit.

  • Amjad on June 8, 2009, 6:51 GMT

    guys guys guys !! we all understand its hard for us,fans,to accept defeats but putting all the blame on captan makes no sense as well.atleast give him some credit.he stood tall and scored 45. i do admit that pak should have won this match. i do believe that pak is still trying to get some sort of pairs at the moment but plz DO NOT so under-rate ur team.england lost to Netherland n we all saw how their supporters backed them for this match.on the other hand we didn lose to NETHERLANDS for heaven sake.its still a match to go.

    are we only good enough to support out team in GOOD TIMES? true fans support their team n captan in worst of times and not just the GOOD TIMES..every one can support their country in good times.but the best will stay with the team no matter what.n this really really really makes the team do alot better than the previous blunders.

    so GO ON PAKIES..its never too late...we r still there and we will bring home to trophy INSHALLAH

    GO GO GO PAKISTAN..just hunt 'em down

  • Ovais on June 8, 2009, 6:50 GMT

    What a shame for Younis Khan? How can you laugh after such a pathetic performance, in 20 overs game first six overs are really important in bowling we have nothing keeping our main bowlers for death overs n in batting we are opening with butt and. Shahzad they hardly knows how to play t20 they can't play a single bowl in gaps, where is Fawwad alam the only guy who scored fifty in last two domestic matches n hez out does that make any sense? Open with akmal n fawwad I can guarantee a win for Pakistan n get Sohail for attack.

  • PK on June 8, 2009, 6:50 GMT

    YK saying T20 is for fun, he better understand this quickly that t20 is future and 50\50 will be history in couple of years.

  • H S Kumar on June 8, 2009, 6:50 GMT

    I was saddened by the way Pakistan is approaching their cricket. I have been brought up on tight and high quality India-Pakistan matches since the 1980's. I have and always shall be a die hard Indian fan. But it pains to see the Pakistani team in such a decline. I agree with the author that the "bravado" of past players like Imran,Wasim, Waqar, Javed and Inzaman are missing in today's generation of Pak cricketers.

  • Murtaza Moiz on June 8, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    and I think personal favorism is going on here. In whatever the form Sohail Tanvir is he should be given ample chances, cuz we don't have a New Ball Bowler, we should admit that, and while playing against such teams he would gain rhythm, not while being on the bench. And what happened to Fawad Alam. He's alot better batsmen and team player than Butt. And In case of Opening they should have opted for Nasir Jamshed in lieu of Butt.

  • Mohammed Sabir on June 8, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    What you expect from a stupid Capitan like YK with a bunch of so called cricketers such as Shoaib Mailk, afridi, misbah, Salman But & Yaser Arafat must be kicked out of cricket team; they must not allow entering any cricket stadium in anywhere. YK is good to chew the chew gum and showing the dirty teeth on TV. Pakistan lost the game at the moment when he offer UK to bat first after winning the toss and that was the most horrible decision. A wise capitan would never take such decision. In my opinion the whole PCB is bunch of shemales only good for……………………..bhangras

  • Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    Well this is all happened and we were the witness. I think PCB is to be blamed the more, because of their awful decisions team lost. You have players like Imran Nazir and Abdul Razzaq seating at home, they are build for T20 game. I think if they try to open with Afridi it will be better because they don't have a single man in the first 5 players to hit a six... so give some confidence to Afridi and believe in him..this is what the team management should do,,,,

  • pakistan on June 8, 2009, 6:48 GMT

    pakistan lost the spirit of cricket there ....one players putting 100% there ....all are behind personal record or performance there unity not there ......they need good leaders in top ....this is 50 %of good cricket

  • Ad hithya Bhat on June 8, 2009, 6:47 GMT

    Its sad to see our neighbor being in such a pathetic state...well wht younis is tellin is absolute nonsenset....nowadays india pakistan match has become a bore...results r known before the match starts...its really sad to see pakistan struggle so bad...after all this is a nation which gave the greatest odi quick bowler ever seen...plz pcb wake up n get the house in order

  • Syed Imran Mehdi on June 8, 2009, 6:47 GMT

    every pakistani is disappointed at the poor performance of PAK team. i think the Major in current situation is of "Politics" which most of us deny, But still few question apart from last night performance are ...where is Imran Nazir the guy is built for T20 and u drop him for "EGO" reasons... Abdul Razzak still not in T20 squad... he can hit and bowl vercely... Oh you dont play our only left hander who sigle handedly won IPL for "RR" .. there ta aclaimed by "Indians" and we r dropping um. I meet Mr. Younis Khan in an Hotel in Peshawer. he seems to be a nice guy sy laid back personality But i think u need a "Macho Man" kinda guy in T20 as a captain. Now coming to a rather qualitative side of my analysis, Team Spirt,Team Mentality, Team Approach i think is really down under hell.

    Overall , i will say they have to improve and come up with a T20 kinda attitude which Alas!! is not present and is also seems doubtful for near future.

  • Ahmed Imran on June 8, 2009, 6:46 GMT

    Well. First of all my heart bleeds to see such a pathetic performance put up by Pakistan . England deserved to be in th super eight , atleast they r playing infront of their home team . Pakistan to qualify in the super eight is a herculean task , 1st thing they have to beat Netherland which i dont think gonna happen with the way pakistan playing secondly even if they win they have to wing by a huge margin, i dont know how they calculated 25 run margin will ensure pakistan's entry into the Super eight as they have lost by 47 runs so If Pakistan is going to fancy their chance of super eight then they have to win by a margin of More than 47 runs . Having said that i dont think in the first place they will win and i want the Management to quickly learn their mistakes of ill treating their two best players Mohd Yousuf and Abdur Razzak . Mohd Yousuf is gifted with all the bookish shots in his repertoire and Abdur Razzak sucha ferocious hitter ,both will hold the team together.

  • Mohammad Talha on June 8, 2009, 6:46 GMT

    Absolutely rubbish dispaly by Pakistan. We should bring back Abdur Razzak as captain and include Imran Nazir, Fawwad Alam and Sohail Tanveer in the side. Lets do away with the likes of Afridi who are a constant failure and a part of history.

  • Awais Khan on June 8, 2009, 6:46 GMT

    Last night i have tears in my eyes not just because of lose but the way v lose n club team atitud of Pakistan team. I cant xplain my tears any more

  • Asad Muhammad Khan on June 8, 2009, 6:45 GMT

    Rise and Shine Team Pakistan!! We are with you!

  • Sameer on June 8, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    Enough is enough!!!!i fail to understand when our guys will learn from their previous mistakes..watching Pakistan playing now is like repeat of a boring indian daily soap on star TV..wasting time for nothing..Pakistan needs a complete overhauling..First change should be that Misbah should be replaced as caption as one can believe he can lift the spirit of the team..Younis miserably failed to instill confidence in the boys as he himself lacks in abundance.He is a big time loser even before the start of the game..his approach is quetionable..he needs to learn from Dhoni how to get the best out of the boys..the guys who were even playing under the captaincy of Ganguly,Dravid and Kumble, but captaincy makes the difference for India.. Look how dhoni replaced Zaheer with yusuf Pathan in the 3rd over when he was hit for few runs, unlike Younis who hang around with Arafat where he conceded 37 runs in his first spell.. I m a die hard fan of Pakistan cricket and dislikes to criticize our team,

  • zahid on June 8, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    i think this pakistani is adisgrace in a human base they have no planing to ward the match i do now way younou won the toss and bowl as he now his wekeas department is his batting if pakistan have bateed first and score about 155 pakistan would have won it bacause the wicket was taking turn under light but well pakistan team have no faith in them and they don't no what to do

  • Zeeshan Ali on June 8, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    I agree the team is not upto the standards.But who is to blame for PCB, ICC or BCCI. Already Pakistan team has not been playing competitive cricket further players were deprived from playing IPL. A well planned tactic. But let me tell with the return of likes of Razzak, Imran Nazir, Yousuf, Asif & Rana Naveed, Pakistan will be a force to recon with soon. Their AURA OF UNPREDICTABILITY will be back, which is currently hold not ENDED. I am optimistic and every pakistani should be.

  • Murtaza Moiz on June 8, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    Although being a Pakistani, I should say that yea someone above rightly said that just see the attitude of two captains, i.e. Dhoni and Younis, you'll find one hell of a difference, rightly said, even after winning the Pakistani warm up match and win against the minnows Bangladesh, he's still looking for more improvements and on the other hand Younis and Co. are taking this as a fun game, even being a common laymen, we play our street cricket with more attitude and enthusiasm and aggression and try to complete the target with balls to spare, so how can they be so lame! PCB is working hard to gain rights of staging WC 2011 matches, if it succeeds, team Pakistan will again loose and will convey the same message k its not a big deal WC 2015 is in the pipeline. BTW we should condemn those personnel too who were wobbling again and again for recommendation of Younis Khan as a captain. Khuda Ra, bring country in front of your owns.

  • Muhammad Islam on June 8, 2009, 6:42 GMT

    It is really heart breaking to see pakistani team losing the match, its not loss but loosing without any sort of fight back. I am sure they have not watched the match between Holland and England, the way Holland fought, it was marvellous to see them fight like tigers and they have made their way. I see no hopes for Pakistan to even Qualify for the next round because the way they have been performing, its really putting Future of Pakistan cricket in danger. All the fans are heart broken. The way Holland fought, i think they will make things hard for Pakistan to achieve the victory and if they did not improve their overall cricketing (fielding, bowling and specially Captoning), they are a sure failure and out of tournament as well. I have really become a big fan of Holland, specially their fighting spirit. Fianlly i would say to all the Pakistani Players "ITS NOT BAD TO LOOSE BUT YOU SHOULD LOOSE WITH DIGNITY" .. loose with pride and at least give a fight back ..

  • shahid mirza on June 8, 2009, 6:42 GMT

    a lot has been said about Pakisan team. Iwant to discuss about Shahid Afridi . Is there some one who could gide him to tell him about his foot work,he is not at all bringing his left foot to the direction &pitch of the ball ,some one should tell him to see video of some great batsmen like Sachin,Dravid etc focussing mainly on their leg movements,I am sure once he or other Pakistni batsmen follow their leg movemnt, they can over come their shortcoming as batsmen. It is not end of the cricket for them.They have come back in the past

    &they can do it again.Younus must take advice from Misbah on the field as he is much more experienced in this version of cricket then Younus.Come on Boys ,make sure you can do it.

  • Spinghar Safi on June 8, 2009, 6:42 GMT

    Well unless they dont bring ICL players back...the paki cricket will not come out of currunt situation. Imran Nazir, Imran Farhad, Rana naveed, Abdur razak, Shabir Ahmad..they all are top class players specially made of T20 and ODIs. the Lahor Badshahs of ICL is far more better team then the currunt Paki team!

  • Babur on June 8, 2009, 6:40 GMT

    Throughout Pakistan's batting it seemed as if Pakistan was playing a different match. They were playing to get 130. It seems that Pakistan team has this realization that they can only score 130, so if a team wins less then this Pakistan wins, and if the other teams score more than 130 than Pakistan loses.

  • ASIF IQBAL on June 8, 2009, 6:40 GMT

    Butt,Afridi & Arfat must be replaced with Shahzab,Fawad & Tanveer

  • Man_is_h on June 8, 2009, 6:39 GMT

    Was it a match or Match Fixing? Match Fixing to give England a chance to qualify aftre their loss? Now next match definetly Pakistan is going to win and secure the place in Super. Younis have Laddoos in Both hands... Place in super eight and ponds in pocket.

  • Abdul Haseeb Khan on June 8, 2009, 6:39 GMT

    Last night pakistan loss the important game against england, even pak can lose against baby holland , I think there is no place for younus khan, salman but, shoaib malik and yasir arafat in T20 format, pakistan has T20 specialist players like Imran nazir, imran farhat, Rana naveed and Abdul Razzaq these players should have been included in the team.

  • Azam Farooqui on June 8, 2009, 6:38 GMT

    From the captaincy to team selection, everything is wrong with this team. First Younis Khan continously says it's a young team. Almost everyone has been around for a while. The fact is that Younis maybe a good captain, but he's clueless in this format, he himself dosent know where he should bat. Also the team selection is wrong, Ahmad Shahzad may be talented, but has not proven himself at the domestic scene. Fawad Alam, Nasir Jamshed or even Khalid Latif (who recently scored a double hundred in a one day game) have. Yasir Arafat seems to be the flavour of the month, he's no flintoff and is a mere bits and pieces cricketer. Not someone who open's the bowling. Butt has a strike rate of less than 100 in this format and yet he's persisted with. I bet they'll have a hard time beating the Dutch. Infact why should i always feel disappointed. Go Netherlands.

  • MARYAM on June 8, 2009, 6:38 GMT

    So much dissapointing performance.I dont know that why YK is not taking the matches seriously whenever PAK loose he has a pet dialogue to say that "our side is young nd it need time to improve".Why the guys r not performing.When they will realize that matches r vry important? We can just pray nd hope 4 da best.

  • AJN on June 8, 2009, 6:36 GMT

    As a nation while embroiled in cataclysmic/depressing every day events, talking about cricket may seem insensitive and callous but still it is very frustrating. Pakistan's Cricket is facing a "Systemic" crisis. Quick fixes and application of symptomatic solutions instead of fundamental solutions to the deep underlying problems will not restore the overall health of our Cricket. Unfortunately our Cricket is being governed & administered by a "Bunch of Jokers" (BOJ). PCB management, Selection Committee, Team Manager and Coach, comprise of highly opportunistic/greedy individuals lacking any sense of responsibility and accountability. Almost all of them are clinging to their lucrative jobs with obscene levels of compensation packages/perks knowing that the party may be over any time. While Pakistan is being isolated in World's Cricket due to circumstances beyond PCB's control but still BOJ has actively contributed to this situation due to their incompetency & false egos.

  • Iqbal Mohammad on June 8, 2009, 6:36 GMT

    All my dear brothers and sisters living in UK supporting Pakistan team from last few matches would sincerelly like to request to go to the stadium for the last match between PAK vs NED but to support NED team not PAK team .I think NED team deserves our cherish at least they show a team of dedication and hard working.I really hope NED team to win next match.Can anyone responsible in PAK please fired the whole PAK squad instead choose fresh youth faces doesn't matter if need time to polish them with real world class SKILLS. ***ENOUGH IS ENOUGH***

  • Sheheryar on June 8, 2009, 6:36 GMT

    I guess it might be too early to say this but it seems like Younus was better as a stand-in captain. Now that he has the job full-time he seems completely at bay. Pakistan seems to be playing with no plan or direction. If things go well they look fine but when the going gets tough they have no plan B. In this day of professionalism and shrewed leadership our captain and coach don't match-up to the best. Having said that and after agreeing with many of you about poor team selection... this is what we have for now! Let's hope the Pakistan team can pick themselves up and get past the first hurdle... the Netherlands. They need to take it one step at a time and most importantly they need to believe they can do better.

  • intikhab kazi on June 8, 2009, 6:35 GMT

    i could not agree more with all u guys. Pakistan should be int he league with Scotland, Ireland and Netherlands coz even Bangladesh is a better side than these punks. Pakistani board has to wake up and drop people like Shaid Afridi- good for nothing. He is a digrace to Cricket all together. He has played maybe a thousand matches and still he is hitting the ball the same way. he is a pathetic player. People become better each day with experience but this guy is just piece of shit. But wht is more astonishing is they still select him. Salamn Butt- good for nothing, younus Khan- OMG i hate it when he laughs and smiles after misfields and dropped catches and the fact that he said "T20 is fun", is ridiculous, Its just an excuse for him to get away with this miserable defeat. But you not what people, we can write or say whatever we want but if the PCB does not start getting serious, beleive me there won't be Pakistan Cricket team in a coupleofyears. TheywillenduplikeZimbawve. Hopethathappens

  • Sarim on June 8, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    They deserve to loose this game and should be out of the tournament period. The team looked like a bunch of jokers in the ground with no game plan at all. The bowling changes made no sense what so ever and I dunno who were those people who thought younis khan is a great captain. Why the hell would you pick ahmad shehzad when you perfomed poorly in domestic circuit on the other hand you picked salman which is not a t20 player from any angel. Get the ICL players back, bring back imran nazir, razzaq, imran farhat etc. PCB needs to put the interest of pakistan ahead of them and not BCCI. It's been run by bunch of puppet with no vision and planning. All I can say is that pakistan doesn't deserve to be in the super 8 and they should be out of the tournament for their below par performance their attitude towards the mega event and disappointing performance and the level shown today. Such a disheartning and sad moment for pakistan fans.

  • Ali Bakhtiar on June 8, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    I was watching this match live in Malaysia at wee hours of the morning only to see Pakistan lose. Losing is not something that upsets me anymore when its comes to Pakistan cricket team. However, the manner that we played was simply miserable. Match was decided when Umar Gul mis-fielded by letting a KP shot go through his legs for four. He and captain Younis had wide smiles after this gaffe in fielding. How on earth can we win or dream of winning if captain and players are so silly.

    A street cricket team from Pakistan could have performed as our team has performed. Reaching super 8 maybe a distant dream but even if we reach I think we will lose all the matches there if we continue to be JOKERs on field.

  • IRFAN on June 8, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    Afridi was very pathetic in the warm-ups as well as yesterday.... Pak will lose to netherland and end up saying We will learn from this tournament and gain experiance from how netherland fielded, batted and did bowling.... We will try to copy them and try to beat them in the next tournament.....

  • kamran on June 8, 2009, 6:34 GMT

    i swear on what is going on? it is hard to understand is it really pakistani team,u see this is what happened when u select non prfofesional players who does not even deserve to be in b class local tournament,when will we try to learn the game of cricket?i feel like crying here after seen their performance in the match against england,they selected test matches players in twenty20.oh my god when our selectors will learn to select,POOR SELECTION.i dont understand why cant they select players on merit bases they all should be fired atonce and please allow fawad alam in atleast one match and u will c the difference i bet. what is he doing in the stand sitting after all he is a very good player. in the end carry on guys i wish u lots of tv commercials and money i mean that is all they come for i guess.show some respect for the country but i doubt it.allah hafiz

  • Ramzan fakhar on June 8, 2009, 6:33 GMT

    Laughing is not a sportsmen spirit (YK).Pak Team should have some planes for next game. Players should play on their suited positions. Victory is only for one who is dying in chase of that. Other than cricket we pakistanies are like our cricket team in every field of life, so we should not blame our team. It is our culture. Nothing is perfect.

  • omair on June 8, 2009, 6:33 GMT

    i really have no clue,what is younus khan upto.is that he's decided to give that shameless speech everytime.who told younus khan is aggressive.the common sense seeem to never exist.he is performing under par himself.And the team's performance under his captaincy doesn't seem to go anywhere.who'z living upto the attitude.we critised malik as a captain.though we did well in t-20 world cup.now that younus is captain.we dont see the difference.its the same with worst results.anyways thats not the point now,because we dont have anymore attitude of wasim akram and imran khan,or inzamam -ul-haq.the concern is what fight do they put at this level.though i believe they will do it to super eight with all the calculations above.but the question now is,do they deserve to be there.its straight 'NO' because they dont seem to dictate terms neither do they fight for it.so i believe netherland deserves more than the pakistan as they fight hard;every single chance they get.pakistan wants to be dictated

  • Gopal on June 8, 2009, 6:32 GMT

    Hate to see a loss like this! I am an Indian and happy to see the work Mahi is putting in as captain. But YK is a shocker of a captain. And giving the excuse of ""t20 being an entertainment" is complete non sense. Pak supporters dont deserve it, icc doesnt deserve it; the only one who deserve it is PCB. They are complete waste of time. Come on, none of you guys hit the problem area. Kamran akmal has to go, he is a waste of time!!! Pak would have done well, if Misbah came ahead instead of Malik!!

  • elia(an inddian who luvs paki) on June 8, 2009, 6:31 GMT

    but i a pakistani team's biggestfan does admit dat if we had a capt lyk dhoni, we wud have won dis worldcup...dhoni has da ggression nd everything wich forces every1 2 perform,now afta wat YK said no1 wud care if dey play gud or not. Imean YK doesn't noe wen umar shud bowl,wen afridi shud open,nasir shudplay....ALL I WOULD LYK 2 SAY IS, PLZ ALL FANS ASWELL COMMENT IN BIG LETTERS SAYING "YOUNIS LET SHAHID AFRIDI OPEN THE INNINGS" since he cant do anyfin dere, wen he comes on top order average is 43 wen he comes down da order, 11(i found dis out from stats guru od cricinfo) so plz let afridi open for once nd lyk he said its not a disaster, 20/20 is a game of entertainment then UR FANS WILL ONLY GET ENETERTAINED IF AFRIDI OPENS DA INNINGS, its not lyk u care if u lose do ya Mr.YK, atleast den send him opening nd i cant assure u dat he will excel but pakistan will do much much better dan other performnaces,PLZ MR.KAMRAN ABBASI,IF U DONT wanT 2 LOSE A Paki FAN den send dis msg 2 Mr.YK

  • manav on June 8, 2009, 6:31 GMT

    couple things wrong with pak team today. if Dhoni was captaining this this team. Then he would have done following.

    Ask afridi to open the batting Send misbah up the order, before number 4 or 5 Take Tanvir and drop Arafat. Give 3rd over to Afridi, and request him to slow it down,

    I am an indian and I think this pak team has lost it because of basic things are done wrongly, anyways Pak did not start good in 92 WC as well. hope is everything. hope there will be peace.

  • Guru on June 8, 2009, 6:30 GMT

    Why is it so difficult for Pakistan to accept defeat gracefully. To say that T20 is not serious cricket and all fun is pathetic!Would you had said the same thing if you had won. The team management and players should realise that there is difference between Bravery and Bravado. before the tournament all they were saying that they were finalists last year and they are confident, winning will lift the spirits of Pakistani fans etc - but they forgot to do the basics I guess - i.e practice , put in some hard work , develop strategy etc etc. They seem to work more like politicians - only talk and no action

  • arif yazdani on June 8, 2009, 6:30 GMT

    After taking out Inzaman, Razzaq, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Akhter, Mushtaq, Kanaria , and Nazeer, the only experience Pakistan's team left with was Younus Khan, Misbah, Kamran Akmal and half hearted Malik. Out of whatever Pakistan was left with, the players who will only perform when threatened to exclusion are Akmal, Malik, and Misbah. These three players have a pattern of playing just good enough occasionally to stay in the team. Every body else that I did not mention is a second or may be a third class player. And PCB have worked hard to make it sure that the Pakistan's team is kept from emerging as the best team in the world, by excluding senior players by making it sure they are disrespected, humiliated, and their pride is taken away. PCB knew it that if they tried to bring the senior players to their knees, they will certainly leave. So PCB was counting on it, and as a result we see what we see today. Now why PCB wanted to do what they did to Pakistan's team warrants investigation

  • Imran Afzal on June 8, 2009, 6:29 GMT

    Younus khan says "T20 is for fun do not take it too seriously", explains everything. This is not a team to be sent to take part in international tournaments. If you cannot win die trying. At least for something you get paid for.

  • Bilal on June 8, 2009, 6:28 GMT

    Think Salman 'Sniper' Butt is impressive? No other batsman can find fielders with such precision! We lose momentum with Openers and that pressure is passed on to the rest of the batting order. Need to bring in Fawad Alam. Let him bring the energy in the field and urgency for singles. Open with Shoaib Malik! The captain needs to learn from his favourite player - Imran Khan. Attack by bowling his best bowlers to take wickets and not use them as run containers in the end. They have got too much wrong for my money!

  • Rashid on June 8, 2009, 6:26 GMT

    It all comes down to the bloody adminisration. Selectors choosing test match players to play a fast paced, action packed game. Nasir Jamshed seems a great agressive player. But what do the 'smart' PCB think tank do, they choose a bloody player with a domestic t20 average of 8 after 10 odd games. And to partner him, we got a chap that can do nothing more than hit the ball to the fielder.

    POLITICS is the key word. It is ruining the team. Why has a man with a domestic first clas, limited over and T20 average of over 50 doing sitting on the bench for the last series against Australia and this world Cup. Fawad Alam has shown he can play at the international level as well. Look at his average and strike rate. What more justification do they want.

    Why cant the squad for the world cup look something like this :) Younus Khan nasir Jamshed Imran Nazir Abdul Razzaq Shoaib Malik Misbah ul Haq Afridi Akmal Shahzaib Hasan Gul Rana Naved Ajmal AAmer Tanvir Arafat

    POLITICS...

  • mick on June 8, 2009, 6:24 GMT

    dissapointed to see lack of desire to chase runs by pakistani batsmen. I don't think the captain had net run rate in his mind while batting. Pakinstan has a very good chance of losing against Netherlands. Afridi is finished as a batsmen. He cannot depend on luck all the time even to connect the ball with bat.

  • Noor on June 8, 2009, 6:24 GMT

    Pakistan Selectors need to think about Abdul Razzak, Imran Nazir, Rana Hassan etc Almost from the ICL Team. How they batted in ICL matches. Common Pakistani Selectors Wake up from politics and think about the country, team and future of Pakistan's cricket and their supporters. I think selectors does not wanna pakistan to win, they just want that pakistan team only participate in the tournament. if same will continue, after some year pakistan will struggle to qualify for the competition. Hope ICL Players will do better than this worst present team. shame on selectors and present pakistani team. think about the pakistan's legend how the played and kept the inspiration for the new generations. shame on you selectors and pakistan present team.

  • faisal on June 8, 2009, 6:24 GMT

    come on guys its east 2 say then its get done we all know wat pakistan r like we havent got any player accept misba and shoaib who can play t20 at a moment all the teams have atleast 4 specialist batsman and bowlers and three floters wat pakistan got same afridi duck master, akmal one match wonder, butt a back garden cricketer u cant win like this we want players like nazir, rana and razak who can hit the ball out the grounds not just takin singles we got sa, aus, wi and big name like india 2 play with i say no chance for us to go anywhere. biggest problem is coach if ur coach is 64years old we all know how fit pakistani youngter r and he is poor old man how can he train 15 boys squad for 3 hours a day on a field for fielding it just hole set is mess up big time only one thing can be done which is just a dua like always plz plz plz pakistan think about it we all wants u guys 2 win so plz show some pride and pasion other wise people gonna leave a faith on u guys.

  • ali on June 8, 2009, 6:23 GMT

    i think we have rain against holand .. so u know what happend... but simply its hurts a lot .. please please allaha help pakistani nation ....

  • eliya on June 8, 2009, 6:22 GMT

    to start off- pathetic captainvy by younis i am an indian and i support pakistan all my lyf coz of afridi nd co, nd dey have also produced so many gr8s lyk wasim waqar, inzi i alwayz get teased at home by my relatives dat ohhhhh paki is shockin, dont support dem, but i never lost hope...even wen dey lost 2 irelansd nd last nite, i kept saying b4,wait nd watch in da twenty20 worldcup, we'll prove every11 wrong nd my family also sumhow supported me apart 4rom my relatives. i had a feelin we'l prove evry1 wrong, btw we means pakistan not india, even YK's interviews said dat we will try hard but we didn't do gud. i wans't dat angry after we lost eventhough ofcourse i was very frustrated nd cried since w now have a chance to get eliminated but after finding out wat pakistans captain said at such a tym wen paki cricket needs him da most got me more angry, even my dsad said forget paki, go 4 india, u will b happy but i said NO, nd i will say NO buti regretfuly admit dat....contd

  • imran haider on June 8, 2009, 6:21 GMT

    Drop ahmed shehzad and pick fawad alam and open with shahid afridi and salman butt and play aggressive not defensive like they did against england i think pakistan,s world cup is over because i dont think they will be able to beat neatherland by 60 runs.

  • Sorcerer on June 8, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    Insipid, spineless, rudderless, irresponsibile, lack of accountablity perceived with impunity by the players, pathetic planning etc etc.

  • Mohammad Rafi on June 8, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    No doubt Pakistani team arrived at this tournament with only one T20 against Australia but what about the Pathetic fielding. If you drop catches like this then any team can beat you. It is very clear they cam unprepared. Pikistan chase record has been very poor and winning toss and chosing to field is unimaginbable. This decision was taken in view of match against India. Mind you decision are not taken on basis of one match result but on the basis of team's strength. Nevertheless, I am confident they will win comofrtably agains Holland and move to next round.

  • Pkm on June 8, 2009, 6:19 GMT

    Any remote chance of BCCI being behind this !!!!! I wish luck to the team for there next match. I luv to see my team India or Pakistan on the field, though yesterday, i was dissapointed. Common pakistan, I believe the first thing Pakistan should is to stop analysing this defeat (You dont have time) and just play a pakistani innings. Remember Miandad, the last ball...

  • Irfan Rizvi on June 8, 2009, 6:18 GMT

    So sad so depressing and so frustrating, I dont mind the result but what pissed me off was the attitude of the team and specially Mr Widest Smile Younis Khan, even when the players were letting the balls go through the legs he could not control his laughter, I felt like punching those teeth out. See this happens when you leave class players out but sadly PCB will never learn from its mistakes. I dont see this Pakistani team progressing to the next round even if they beat Netherlands they will definitely make a match of it and Pakistan will lose out on NRR.

  • Mike on June 8, 2009, 6:18 GMT

    Most of the comments above illustrate exactly why Pak cricket is stuck in a mire from where it never can withdraw itself. One win and the team is raised to the skies. One loss and they are the worst in the world and there need to be wholesale changes. Why in the world are you people so volatile, immature and short-sighted? Try to think with some maturity at least. I think the same thing is responsible in a way for the shambles that you find your country in. Unless you find a way to control your emotions and think rationally about things, you are fast going on the way to becoming a failed country. I have hope in your country; but sad to say, Madeleine Albright's statement that Pakistan is an international migraine is true

  • ayaan on June 8, 2009, 6:18 GMT

    Very dissapointing performance of pakistan team, they are not playing seriously. Just they are playing like a fun over their. Younus khan this a 20twenty not the test cricket and you have to be serious on the game not laughing around on others mistakes. by the way why tanveer was on bench?????????? I dont think pakistan will win against netherlands. I feel shame to watch the pakistan matches

  • Faraz on June 8, 2009, 6:18 GMT

    YK is pathetic along with the side he has got along with him. Winning the toss and then allowing the underpressure team to bat was not a strategic decision. We are looking forward to the next game against Holland, lets not forget about the fact that the climate is rainy. If match is abandoned and Pakistan is to get 1 point for it they are out already. Secondly, they don't have guts to even beat Holland with a margin. A team who lost a match to the team that lost to Holland is pathetic enough. They don't deserve to be in the second round. Its better that they relax and watch as the tournament goes on from their homes :) WI deserves the cup.

  • Nadir ALvi on June 8, 2009, 6:18 GMT

    Come On Guyz They are earning in pounds. Even board is getting a chunk in this. They even dont have a passion to play they knew that if they loose they would nto have a chance to play again NO RAZZAQ NO IMRAN NAZIR we have worst players and Worst management ever. In younus conference younus said that we should build a partnership. they were chasing 185 and no sixes and fours...........Are you kidding me.......

  • Khadim Ali on June 8, 2009, 6:17 GMT

    Intekhab Alam said that the main problem of PAKISTAN is opening batting and fielding.Lemme to include BOWLING in it.So the problem is in batting,fielding and batting only.The rest are ok.How shamful.What is doing the bowling coach AAQIB JAVED?What is doing the batting coach BASIT ALI?And for what is old man INTEKHAB?Butt is not fit for 50overs.Can an opener batsman miss a FULLTOSS in his 50th over?the asnwers is yes.Butt can do this mission impossible.His only ability is in the team is that he can speak ENGLISH according to our selectors.So hurry up guys,make a que,pass IELTS/TOFEL and be a part of PAKISTAN cricket team.Forget cricket just tell me whts going right is Pakistan favors now a day.Its all caused by our THINK TANKs from every department.

  • Fahad on June 8, 2009, 6:17 GMT

    Isn't this the guy Imran Khan hand picked to lead Pakistan!? WTF!? This guy isn't even a man. Pakistan is a nation of proud competitors, and Younis's new nickname is Younis "Eunuch" Khan. His decision making is terrible! At least Shoaib Malik made the right decisions at the right time SOMETIMES. Younis's appointment as captain has signaled the end of this team. Why give the captaincy to a guy who WALKED OUT and flatly REJECTED the responsibility a couple of years ago!? WTF WTF WTF!

    Axe Afridi and Akmal. Demote Younis Khan and if he resists axe him too. Bring in our entire under 21 side. At least they have more heart than these cowards!

    Screw all of these pathetic cowards who claim to represent our nation. Send them to the scrap heap to rot for the rest of their pathetic careers!

    And i'm not over-reacting! This is the correct response to Younis's post match comments and his overall demeanor during the match!

  • moon on June 8, 2009, 6:15 GMT

    In my opinion, Younis Khan is not an appropriate choice for captaincy. He should be replaced immediately after this tournament. Shahid Afridi has all the potential to be an attacking captain. Even Misbah is not a bad choice. PCB should start gathering the ICL players such as Imran Nazir, Mohammad Yousuf and Abdul Razzaq so our team can utilize such valuable assets of Pakistan in the upcoming tournaments.

  • Nagaraja on June 8, 2009, 6:12 GMT

    A very poor performence by Pakistan, I do not understand what Shahid Afridi is doing, whether he is specialist bowler or batsman? certianly not both, wake up pakistan time is running out, we would like pakistan should in supereight. And one more thing dont lose convincingly. Younis Khan you are playing in the world cup ( dont think its fun) and change your attitude.

  • Bilal on June 8, 2009, 6:10 GMT

    pakistani players showed that they havnt gone there to play but for fun. Dave Watmore was not accepted as a coach and the argue was "woh buhat practice karata hai". wat does it mean? it means paki players dont want to practice they just want fun. Younis's attitude is disgraceful. Smiling after losing badly. Younis, Afridi, Salman, Gul, coach, chairman must be fired quickly.

  • Waqas Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 6:05 GMT

    Guys! Cool down, i know its a big blow for us but we cant do much about these deaf and dumb people sitting out there. I will put everything on captain's shoulder. He made wrong decisions,You are chasing 186 and with your best batsmen Misbah and Afridi who can manage this , you are sending them lower the order.Pathetic. YK seems to be a risk averse but this is not test cricket,This is T20.Its all about risk but who tell them? and to whom? to Yk? or Intikhab Alam? Yawar Saeed? they got no clue what this game is all about. Really dissappointed to see his captaincy. WHats the point of bringing Shoaib Malik in early overs when he is not confident enough, May be Yk gor superstituios about his brilliant catch and thought that might be his day.But Still Guys we need to support our team , as we have got no option. Cheers

  • Disheartened fan on June 8, 2009, 6:04 GMT

    Yonis Khan - thats where the problem lies. He has no place in the 20 20 side. His post toss interview was about how to manage the chase in case of rain when D/L applies. Seems pretty justifiable but he did exactly the opposite. What was he doing in the middle? improving his 20 20 average? The approach to the chase was an insult to any pakistani team. i have never seen a pakistani side go down so easily. there was no fight, no passion, no spirit. Pakistan innings was a torture for the fans for 1.5hrs. Its ok if you can't reach the target but atleast try to salvage some net-run rate and along with it some pride. And woteva yunis is preaching about 20 20 cricket, he should know that its 'in' now and pakistani fans are following it with passion and expect their team to atleast show some balls. A bunch of pussies cant represent pakistan and our cricket just like that. its just not us. We need guys with an 'in your face' attitude. Guys who have confidence in themselves like past teams.

  • Omer on June 8, 2009, 6:02 GMT

    A sorry performance !! YK should realize that he is playing a World Cup not Galli cricket !! Its hard to understand what is he trying to show everyone with his attitude !? He is the first captain I have seen who is smiling at misfield !! its hard to swallow this kind of behavior after pakistan has had great captains like Imran Khan and Wasim Akram ! I think no words would describe the feelings of pakistan supporters! People will agree with me that YK is not suited for t20 cricket ! Shoaib Malik very smartly used his bowlers in the last world cup and going by last years performance he should have led the side !

    A good T20 team will include players like Imran Nazir, Abdul Razzak and even Mohammad Yousuf !

    These criticism will be never ending but we are still supporting pakistan and will always will! So its time they change their attitude and lift their game ! Its never too late,we still have good players, they just have to be utilized better ! Comon PAKISTAN !!!!

  • M.Saad Durrani on June 8, 2009, 6:02 GMT

    I think the prob is that team pak has made this diff for themselves as they have come v hard to beat NED by good margin as Eng team was Better Team that day .. As i think that PCB and selectors are man responsible for this terrible performance as for 2 reasons reason no 1 Wrong team selection example What is sence behind Selecting S.Butt Y.Arafat and S.Hassan in place of M.Talha N.Jamshed and K.Latif second Why team reached Eng too late before start of the tornament to get settled in the condistions as it seems they wernt till now which the matter of Big worry ..

  • Zeeshan Ahmed Siddiqui on June 8, 2009, 6:02 GMT

    I do not know what was the planning of Younis Khan. He won the toss and gave the chance of batting to England, first mistake of him. In run chasing then again made mistake that was one down Kamran Akmal, unable to play in England and he was facing Anderson (swing bowler) that time. In my opinion first five batsmen are responsible for winning the match. Specialist batsmen should play on these position. He should have come one down (lead from the front) and then two down Misbah and then Malik, Arfat, Kamran and then Afridi. He sent Afridi instead of Misbah, this was his another mistake. Afridi batting average is only near to 13 in England in one day with highest score 37. He has not ability to play in England and you were sending him in that hope that he would do something. Misbah played at no. 7, I think our captain do not know how to use players on suitable position. I am also thinking that he is uable to use bowlers efficiently and effectively.

  • Jeeva on June 8, 2009, 6:02 GMT

    When you have great hitters like Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Abdul Razaaq & Yousuf. Why you are testing this inexperienced pakistan side. Imran nazir is in top form in both the twenty20 tournmanet played in pakistan as well as in ICL.I think PCB should reconsider in bringing this quality players. If they won't then pakistan will be facinf tough task to win matches in the future.

  • game boy on June 8, 2009, 6:01 GMT

    What about Afridi guys !! he has been a failure for such a long time. even Akram was commentin gon it today. All afridi does is - close his eyes and swing his bat and pray that ball hits the bat. Against india in warm up game it was same thing. I know you all are blaming butt and others, but i think you need to get are young players and expose them. Look how india built their young team - gambhir, raina, yuvraj, yusuf. T20 is a diiferent game - you need yound fearless players. B'desh gave better fight to india than we did in warm up game. anyway - my eyes are now focused on watching Aus- Sri. One of them has to go :)

  • Mohammad Aslam. on June 8, 2009, 6:01 GMT

    It is shame for Pakistan team as well as for Pakistani coach/selecters that they did not made a plan for this crucial match.Captain should bat first as the weather was prdicted rain in later stage of the evening.Opening bowling must be started with Gul and Tanvir and bating with Afridi and Akmal.In 1st 6 overs there must be on deep midwicket and deep extra piont fielder if you want to save 25/30 runs.There is no chance for Butt in the team.I must say that the captain should first reach the supper eight and then start telling that we will give good news to spectators and lift the CUP(which cup tea/coffee cup)Captain is smiling and laughing as if he has come up for a PICNIC.Of course go for picnic after losing to Netherland tomorrow.I must also mention for all Pakistani bowlers to bowl with line and legnth for ALLAH sake do not simply make your speed just for nothing.I many time decided not to watch Pakistan matches but what to do I CAN NOT EVEN NO ONE CAN.Still I will wish good LUCK.

  • Haroon Malik on June 8, 2009, 6:01 GMT

    Ahhh!! it was a heartache...couldnt believe my eyes and totally agree with kami bhai!

  • Ali on June 8, 2009, 6:00 GMT

    Pakistan needs to pack up and go home I had actually stopped watching cricket because of their dismal performance in the past but the emotional idiot that I am keep hoping for a miracle...the best part is that the the captains attitude says it all apparently its..."fun" cricket for them why dont they instead play ping pong on play station or xbox 360 maybe they will be able to do well in that which I also doubt...Netherlands will outplay them for sure as they are playing a serious tournament instead of "fun" cricket...Mr Alam we are not living in the dopey 70's anymore so please pass a shot of expresso to all your players they need to wake up and smell the coffee before its too late...Oh I am sorry its already too late...bye bye Pakistan you dont deserve to be there...

  • PS Sidhu on June 8, 2009, 5:59 GMT

    I'm an Indian fan. Pakistani cricket is going through difficult times, but I've no doubt it will come out of it sooner or later. Maybe they will flop in this tournament. So what. All other major cricketing nations go through similar phases and sometimes they are on top, sometimes not. Fans can live through it.

    However, what Younis Khan said about T20 being "just for fun" and all that really pissed me off; and I'm sure many others (including Pakistani fans) must have felt the same. YK should have taken the defeat in his stride and commented something like - "a one off bad day but we will come back strongly."

    If this is the true feelings of YK (and I believe PCB has to make a stand and issue a statement on this matter); then sad to say the road to recovery will be much harder.

    I pray YK will retract his statement.

  • Suhaib Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 5:59 GMT

    Sure we fielded pathetically, but what hurt me the most was that our senior batsmen did not go for the target at any point. Pakistan has played badly several times in the past, but never have they lost hope so early in the match. We kept waiting for someone to step out of the crease and show some intensity, but it seems Younis Khan had decided around the 5th over of their innings that they wont go for the target. It was a listless, clueless, hopeless performance... I did not enjoy saying that.

  • basir on June 8, 2009, 5:56 GMT

    pakistan play like local team they play like 50 over game we need imran khan coach day bi day pakistan team pooar performance

  • Fahad Majeed on June 8, 2009, 5:56 GMT

    The match wont even happen due to rain and this time Pakistan will be out because Netherlands beat England. Another sad way to exit after Ireland debacle.

  • Rahul Saxena on June 8, 2009, 5:56 GMT

    And Pakistan still wants to be a part of the Champions League despite their Director General publicly calling the Twenty20 format and IPL a joke and their captain Younus saying after yesterday's match, "I have never attached too much importance to Twenty20 cricket, as it is fun cricket"! Funny

  • Naeem Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 5:55 GMT

    I would like to say to PCB higher officials to please please get rid of Shahid Afridi as early as possible because he has finished his batting. He only want to sky rocketing the cricket ball. I would also request our captain and tam coach to please replace both the openers with some other option as Ahmad Shahzad might be good for Test Cricket but T20 is a different game altogether. Salman Butt should also sit on bench as he can't charge the other team bowlers for about 10 an over which is a must get in T20 cricket. I don't know what our PCB think tank has in their minds about this Pakistani Cricket Team.

  • faizan on June 8, 2009, 5:55 GMT

    they pay the price for not playing IPL or any other international 20-20 league...australian also suffered from the same..i think its time for PCB to arrange a high level 20-20 league either in pakistan or in abu dhabi

  • Naeem on June 8, 2009, 5:54 GMT

    very disapointing performance must say this. one thing for sure if pakistan loose the upcoming game and if it wont make it into the next group match, it will loose many of the supporters. i dont understand what the hell younis khan were doing in the first six over, they havnt tried to done their homework. we were playing with the strongest department and why the hell younis didnt exposed his best spin bowlers in the first six overs :@ when fast bowlers faild to deliever. i dont understand the strategy, Yasir Arafat is the part timer and allrounder. he is match winner no offence but when you see that he delieved two overs with such grace why the hell you are not changing the bowling attack. its seems like they already got money to loose this one other wise home team would have been out of the tournament.

    feel very sorry and disapointing with the feilding and batting department. Hopefully they bounce back in the next game and give atleast some moments to cheer about ..

  • shahid khan on June 8, 2009, 5:52 GMT

    I just want to tell Younis Khan, that please take this game of cricket seriously as we have bought airline tickets, boooked hotel rooms and bought match ticket in advance - all expenses combine comes to 3000 - 4000 Dollars - If Pakistan doesn't qualify I will be stuck with watching Holland. P.s I am traveling from California to support the green shirts, tho I have to say the comment made by Younis Khan that 20-20 is fun and it doesn't mean anything to him was stupid, it means alot to us. WAKE UP YOUNIS KHAN. WAKE UP....

  • Tasawar Hussain on June 8, 2009, 5:52 GMT

    T20 needs six hitters to chase a score. Unfortunately in this team no other batsman than Afridi has this reputation and unfortunatley he has worst batting form of his life these days. What the hell Army of officials are doing in PCB if they can not plan and prepare a team for a WORLD CUP. They should accept their failure and leave the job for those who can do it better than them. Please forgive the fans of Pakistan Cricket and stop working on personal agendas to strengthen your jobs at the expanse of Pakistan Cricket. We wait for years for these events and get disappointed either by rift/grouping among players or official's personal liking and dislikings. If PCB would have been strong enough then Malik would not have been able to play like he did in the match. Belive it or not as viewer we observed his attitude, his innings keeping in mind his ability is the prove of his loyality to the Pakistan. Shame on you Malik. If he wants to play as a captain please throw him out of the team

  • Kamran Hashmi on June 8, 2009, 5:52 GMT

    The one thing I would wanna say is YK is a pathetic captain. He could not control the flow of run by just manipulating of his bowlers. Secondly I was appalled by the exchange of laughter between Umar Gull and YK when UG misfielded at the boundary, remembering how Wasim Akram used to react after Moin Khan or Inziman were unable to give 100% in the field. This team has so much more talent than the last world cup but unable to execute, why? Salman Butt has no place in T20 side and Fawad Alam should be automatic choice. He is brilliant batsman but is on the sidelines due to the likes of Salman Butt. I bet Shoaib Malik, like in the last world cup, could be a much more organized and thinking captain than the ever-laughing YK.

    I really dont want them to reach the super 8 at this stage. Shameful !!!!!!!!!

  • Muhammad Ammad Javed on June 8, 2009, 5:51 GMT

    Well another non serious performance from a very non serious Pakistani team and most expected one also. YK captain of our team he is the main person who never take his game serious whenever he got out he just simply pass a smile and go to dressing room as he is there for outing and the problem is that no one is taking it into consideration that they has to take the game seriously. Pakistani players should realize that they are not playing not only for themselves but for the pride of whole nation So everyone single players has to take the reponsibilty. If they need to stay in international cricket they has to improve their fielding also We love our cricket and we want to see them wining We have alot of expectations to them so they should think seriously now Otherwise i think they have no right to play international cricket Becasue when ever thay are playing we waste alot of our precious time by watching them and result is zero all the time......................................

  • Cameron on June 8, 2009, 5:51 GMT

    We, the Pakistan cricket fans are angry, frustrated and demoralized. Not because the team is lost but because how they have lost and that there is no hope. There no leader in the team. These are bunch of coward players who are a shame to the country. Are they getting paid to do that? They should be ashamed and stop playing cricket and start playing "Chiri Chakka" or "Gilli Danda". Because that's what they should be playing... I bet they would lose even there. From the very first ball, they were losers. They came to lose. They should just withdraw from the tournament to avoid further humiliation.

  • eddy on June 8, 2009, 5:50 GMT

    Younus Khan is a crappy captain and not fit for T20. Salman Butt, Shehzad and Yaser Arfats are also not fit for T20. I sorely miss Abdul Razzaq, who's talent has been wasted by Pakistan. I also miss Imran Nazir. No wonder the current pakistan side is just totally and utterly rubbish. I am not planning to watch Holland match, I won't be surprise if Pakistan loses.

  • Touqeer on June 8, 2009, 5:50 GMT

    My only concern is that players like YK has always made scores for a lose cause, last night he has made 46 when Pak were chasing 180 plus, remember world cup final 2007, we just need to score 150 odd(and Imran Nazir has scored 20+ runs in first over), all we need from Mr Yk was a score of 40+ or even 30+ to anchor the innings. he had not made even 10 then and we lost the final. I can bet that had England made something like 140 last night, YK was not able to score in double figures. Now for me this world cup is gone, miracles do happen but even for that you need to put some effort. smiling on misfields and losing matches, speaks the volumes about our standard of cricket. YK, Afridi and Intikhab Alam deserve that humiliation, not we as fan. I will rather like to close the chapter of cricket now up to the time when we have genuine players, who at least fight to win(we are not with the mindset of those for whom everything is winning).

  • zaki on June 8, 2009, 5:48 GMT

    fun!!!!! u call this fun!! honestly speakin if this is pakistani's attitude they should just quit from the tournament... younes khan of the caliber making such a comment is an insult to the country.. we have stayed awake the whole night to see our heroes perform, but non of us new that they have already prepared themselves for a loss... for such an attitude pcb has to take serious action against them and if necessary the players should be heavily fined!! and not playing enogh 20-20 is not an excuse, since netherland have only played a 20-20 game in 2007 with no cricket what so ever... loosing is not an excuse.. players are professionals and they are trained as such that they can perform anywhere and at any conditions.

  • talal javed on June 8, 2009, 5:47 GMT

    PCB please grow up, mercy on us and bring Imran Nazir and Abdul Razaaq back , the deo is the best T20...thise who dont agree please watch their ICL innings, please bring farhat and rana sahib back and give the t 20 command to Afridi...please be mature..please OCB have your best men in the squad...please please dont amke us more embaraased

  • Furqan on June 8, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    well should get rid of Butt and AHMED SHEHZad. these are the test match opener not for 20 20 class cricket. IMRan nazir, imran farhat and abdur razzak must bought back in.

    younus must resign

  • aqeel khan on June 8, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    Where are those preparation gone Mr Intekhab Alam PCb and Pakistan cricket team. These results of the last three games are disgraceful for whole the nation. The caoch said he was satisfied with the preparations.The skipper said he wants to bring smiles on shaking country.PCB does not know a bit of cricket.I wish there is a fine on bad performances and rewards for good.

  • Khan on June 8, 2009, 5:41 GMT

    Bring back Imran Nazir and Rana Naved ul Hasan

  • Ali Azhar on June 8, 2009, 5:40 GMT

    90% chance of rain on Tuesday. Let alone discussion for match scenarios, i doubt a game will be played. i would have said it to be a Sad Exit for a team, but the way Pakistan have played. they deserve to be out.

  • abbasi on June 8, 2009, 5:36 GMT

    Its over my friends.. The weather forecast says it will rain so our "HEROES" will come back without showing any heroics..

  • sami on June 8, 2009, 5:35 GMT

    This Pakistan side is miserable.We need to understand the importance of players like Imran Nazir,Abdul Razzak and even Muhammad Yusuf will be better than current batting lineup for 20/20.Imran Nazir should be given chance in odi's and 20/20 with Akmal as a partner and drop these rookies and Salman Butt.Abdul Razzak deserves a place more than anyone and should be replaced by Arafat.This team lacks fighting spirit.Imran Nazir is aggressive opener,he is perfect for 20/20 and odi format.Until and unless PCB become professional and selects appropriate players Pakistan will suffer from now on.

  • Farooq on June 8, 2009, 5:34 GMT

    Pakistan! weakest team of all time in Pakistan cricket history, poor team selection, worst captaincy and no game plans, Openers totally collapse, Malik & younis just know take singles-no aggression in them, Afridi should be bring infront for opening and Misbah one down, PCB whole team selection should be changed and selectors like wasim & imran leads the role of PCB, Players like Imran Nasir, M.yousuf, Razzaq & Asif should be brought back in team, for T-20 one rare hope for shame knockout is by deafing Netherland by good margin, this performance really disappointed all expectations from all over the cricket fan lovers...

  • TruSport on June 8, 2009, 5:33 GMT

    I guess, this is a new Pak team which is not able to come to terms with the departure of superstars like WA, WY, IH. Ever since those 3 got past their sell-by date, the Pak team has never really looked as threatning as it did in the 80s and 90s. The problem is of individual abilities. Cricket has gone past the era of individual greats now - everyone knows the tricks and everyone has the same learning tools and training. It's become a team sport and a mental game. Pak now has a long learning curve - it has to look deep inside itself and find new heros who can lead with an attitude of progress, professionalism and inclusiveness. The reckless Shahid Afridi is a classic example of what is not right with Pak cricket.

  • Adnan Mustafa on June 8, 2009, 5:32 GMT

    Why younis khan as a captain in t20 or in oneday.why he is not retired in one day and t20 cricket.Example set by Andrew Strauss he is not playing.So my request to younis khan please retire in oneday criket and t20 to survive cricket in Pakistan. Non series attitude in cricket and not a standard player for oneday and t20 cricket.so give the chance of imran nazir Abdul razaq etc

  • Parwaiz Lalani on June 8, 2009, 5:32 GMT

    PCB has embraced nation of 170 million people. Paki players has shown no spirit, no tactic, no effort to fight. Even Pakis had come closer by chasing hard, I wouldn’t felt such pain but effortlessness of the players has ashamed me and millions more like me. I think the history (2007) is going to repeat itself in next few hours if they lose against another minnow team. I think the senate standing for the sports should fire PCB and all its player and hire under 19 team who are more enthusiastic than current team.

  • Farhan Akhter on June 8, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    I think we should stop playing cricket. Its enouf, come back pakistani cricket team. Forget cricket. Test cap should be taken from us. My requested to all brother and sister forget cricket part of pakistan team and support other teams. You can support bangladesh atleast they are fighting unlike pakistani they always have issue who should captain and coach.

  • Saad on June 8, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    Right said Kamran! Younis Khan's statements are like pouring salt on the wounds of the fans! he is clueless as to where the fault lies in his team. Not only the fielding is pathetic, so is the batting and even the bowling likes firepower and sting. The team selection is highly questionable as well. Why hasnt Fawad Alam been even tried in the warm-ups?

  • M.A.Alamgir on June 8, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    When u compare England with Pakistan, England not only was better but planned the game in their favour. It requires cricketing brain which YK lacks. The bowlers and the fielding let Pakistan down. Good team selection, a batting and bowling coach is the need of the hour. This is for the future bcoz Pakistan is already in danger of getting out of this tournament as beating Holland on the required run-rate or vice versa will not be easy. IF YK treats this T20 as fun game then he should leave it to Misbah for captaincy. Another thing in the team is analysis of loss. They should analyse their strength and weakness, paly intelligent cricket as a whole bunch and play according to plan. Not go and just get hammered by opposition batsmen or throw wickets away while batting. Use basics in both batting and bowling and improve fielding. Bowl according to field plan-stump to stump and bat corageously. England is a weak T20 side but their result shows they must be reckoned as force in T20. Rise Pak.

  • anon on June 8, 2009, 5:29 GMT

    I think Pak needs to win by 49 runs, simple maths... they lost to England by 48 runs + 1 (by which Holland won, since the last ball makes calc easier) = 49 runs

  • Saad on June 8, 2009, 5:16 GMT

    I really have nothing to say, i'm very disappointed. i was at the oval watching this match where they gave up from ball one. they didn't even try to get close to the target which would have helped with the run rate. pathetic to say the least, this world cup could do without this pakistani side and holland, who gave their 100% against england, deserve to go through.

    i hope these guys get their act together. these boys are too young, ahmad shezad can't be the best player in all of pak to open for us. i don't blame the youngsters at all, it's abdul qadir's fault for aweful selections made. nasir jamshed would have been a lot better if youth is what they were looking for.

    get knocked out on tuesday so i can focus on my exams, i can't take such performances during them.

  • shahrez on June 8, 2009, 5:14 GMT

    Would you please tell afridi that people want to see him as Batsman rather a bowler and please tell him to grow up. Cheers

  • Syed A Jamal on June 8, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    It was a pathetic performance against England. Pakistan team management and players do not seem to understand strategy or planning. Why did Yunus field? I am not a Monday morning analyst! If Pakistan had put 170 runs on board, England would have been pressured in a must-win game. Second, what does Yunus see in Arafat? Third, why Nasir Jamshed/Mohammed Hafiz were not selected? Fourth, why not play Fawad Alam? You know, I am sure there are plenty of Galli cricketers from Karachi/Lahore who could have given England a run for their money in T20. It is about time Pakistan overhaul the whole PCB and hire a fewe professional managers, maybe from foreign countries.

  • fhs on June 8, 2009, 3:19 GMT

    The way YK is leading the side is pathetic - I bet if I give YK Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Saqi in his side, he would still be a looser. why? bc YK does not how to use his bowlers effectively.

  • Ahmed on June 8, 2009, 2:36 GMT

    Losing is one thing but Pakistani captain turned out to be a sore loser. Playing down the effect of the defeat by saying T20 is just for fun and not a big deal to lose shows how serious he is about this tournament. When a captain carries such a defeatist attitude towards the game, I wonder how he is going to inspire his troops. The coach is equally responsible too. After losing the first 2 warm matches convincingly, he should have looked at the problems within the team instead of playing them down as mere warm up games. On the other hand look at Dhoni...even after winning the game against Bangladesh & pakistan convincingly, he continued to say that there problems with the opening & death bowling. The attitude of the whole pakistan squad doesn't seem to be in the right path and I see it very hard for them to get past the first round of this tournament.

  • nash on June 8, 2009, 2:34 GMT

    My calculations for Pakistan to reach super eight, in match against Pakistan and Holland.

    Ist thing Pakistan has to wi that match, but the question is with how big margin? The answer

    is If Pakistan is batting first, it has to win by 25 runs or more. So if pakistan makes 200, it

    has to force Netherland 175 or below. If Pakistan scores 150, Netherland has to be forced

    below 125. Any margin below 25 runs and Netherland goes through the next round.

    If netherland batting first Pakistan has to reach Netherland score before end of 20 overs as

    follows to go to next round.

    If Netherland scores 200 Pakistan has to reach this in 17.3 overs If Netherland scores 190 Pakistan has to reach this in 17.3 overs If Netherland scores 180 Pakistan has to reach this in 17.3 overs If Netherland scores 170 Pakistan has to reach this in 17 overs If Netherland scores 160 Pakistan has to reach this in 16.4 overs If Netherland scores 150 Pakistan has to reach this in 16.4 overs

  • kash on June 8, 2009, 1:13 GMT

    From the moment Younis stepped in for toss, he made all the wrong decisions. To win the toss and bowl? What was he thinking... oh yeah the DL method... What a stupid decision. Note to Younis! When your batting is struggling as it is, win the toss and bat, to give your batters a chance to score without the pressure of chasing a score or keeping up with runrate. Umar gul bowls a great first over getting rid of Bopara and you put pressure on England by.... taking Umar gul off the attack?? What were you thinking Younis? Forget the cricketing sense, where was your common sense Younis? Its time to get rid of the "names" (Butt, Afridi, younis, malik, akmal) and get some players in the team

  • Israr on June 8, 2009, 0:54 GMT

    Come on Pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Spineless they might have been today but I back them to beat the Netherlands and do much better in the Super 8's by when they will be more used to the conditions. Andrew McGlashan got it wrong in his bulletin when he said Pak need to win by more than 60 runs. No Sir, it is only 25 runs if Pak bat first. If Pak have to chase, I have set up an equation which is 174X + XY - 20Y = 2540 where Y is Netherlands runs and X is the number of overs Pak need to score X runs to overtake Neth's run rate. e.g. if netherlands score 160 i.e. Y=160 we have

    174X + 160X - 20*160 = 2540

    334X = 2540 + 3200

    X = 5740/334 = 17.19

    which means 17.19 * 6 = 103 deliveries so pakistan need to reach the target in 102 deliveries i.e 17 overs. Not a very tough ask......Come on Pakistan. The think tank (I hope there is one) need to do better. Why give Arafat 3 overs in the powerplay? He is much better with the older ball. Malik bowling before specialist spinners? Weird.

  • Fraz on June 8, 2009, 0:18 GMT

    Salman Butt has to go..he is so slow, he basically prepares the side for the poor batting shows.

  • Ershad on June 7, 2009, 23:53 GMT

    Depressing. Younis just doesn't get it, does he? Mind you, I think everyone was put off by Afridi having a shocker of a day with the bat, and no one envisaged him playing out 7 dot balls. Were the IPL right? Is Afridi really finished as a batsman?

  • Saf on June 7, 2009, 23:47 GMT

    Another poor performance and it was shambles for Pakistan. They do not seem to have a strategy at all whether it is fielding, batting or bowling. Where Pakistan lost the game well there are fews points that I can mention - The first six bowling overs where they concede too many runs. Batting seems to be lacking that power hitting in the powerplay overs and bizarre batting line specially sending Kamran Akmal & Malik before Younis Khan and Misbah. Sending two inexperienced 17 year olds doesnt help. Its one thing hammering the mediocre bowling back home and completely another thing hitting the best bowlers in the world. Afridi should open the innings with Salman followed by Younis, Misbah, Malik Kamran & the rest thereafter. Now we may have to score 200 runs against Holland and bowl them out for 120 or so. This is the only way Pakistan can progress now.

  • Qasim Hussain on June 7, 2009, 23:19 GMT

    continued...

    Nasir Jamshed was in fine form and he can score quickly, I don't know why he was left out even when he was announced in the T20 team.

    Tanvir needs to be given a chance to perform, he can win us some matches with his bowling along if he gets inform. Yasir Arafat is an average bowler, it will mean having 2 left arm bowlers opening the inings but that's fine as well. Malik also needs to play at no.3 and Kamran Akmal should go back lower down the order. It's a shame how well India has progressed compared to Pakistan in the last couple of years and Pakistan seems to be going backwards!

  • Qasim Hussain on June 7, 2009, 23:15 GMT

    Younis Khan is a stupid captain, he captains as if he has no brain or common sence!

    Being an aggressive captain doesn't really mean just putting in allot of fielders in the circle, it's about being analysing your strengths and weaknesses and using them accordingly. The way Umar Gul was handled by Younis Khan was pathetic, he took a wicket first over and Younis replaced him. Had he taken another one or 2 in the next overs the match would have been over for England.

    You could argue that he was saving Younis Khan for later overs but how can anyone justify giving Shoaib Malik an over when he had Afridi & Saeed Ajmal??? Also in the middle overs again, he delayed Gul's comeback and gave Aamer who was excellent but again brought in when Shah & Peterson were settled and scored against him which also probably demorolised him.

    Also, why on earth would you pick Ahmed Shehzad for T2o when he failed so miserably in the tournament at home, he's a fine batsmen for ODI or Test but T20, not.

  • Wasim on June 7, 2009, 22:54 GMT

    Pakistan are a complete waste of time - its time to start with a newv generation without Malik, Afridi, Younis, and arafat.

    Acording to Younis if Pakistan finish 4th then they have to done well - now tell what does this say to your players

    A change in attitude and culture is needed, which can only be achieved with a complete change of guard.

  • ali on June 7, 2009, 22:51 GMT

    A captain as non serious and un-inspirational as mr younis khan is a disgrace to pakistan cricket.Shameful how he can be smiling the way he does after losing matches.he is not a leader for sure which has been quite apparent by the way he has handled it..hope they fire his a.. when he brings his team back.disgrace

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:17 GMT

    contd : are more than required for him to fill a place in Pakistan's starting eleven line up . Lastly referring to the incident of umar gul misfield followed by shy laughter from younis khan and umar gul tell us how far we have come from Pakistan's glory days when under Imran khan and Wasim akram such mistakes were hardly received with smiles. Seeing Pakistan's efforts today i presume Netherlands are favorites going in on Tuesday.

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:17 GMT

    contd : are more than required for him to fill a place in Pakistan's starting eleven line up . Lastly referring to the incident of umar gul misfield followed by shy laughter from younis khan and umar gul tell us how far we have come from Pakistan's glory days when under Imran khan and Wasim akram such mistakes were hardly received with smiles. Seeing Pakistan's efforts today i presumer Netherlands are favorites going in on Tuesday.

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:15 GMT

    Twenty20 is more for entertainment, even if it is international cricket - Younis khan

    Such an attitude set towards a tournament of such importance shows how motivated the Pakistani cricket team are. While we the fans await a change of our fortunes and see a glimmer of hope such performances as today showcase the fact that our dreams of Pakistan lifting a cup are mere dreams. The performance today lacked everything . Pakistan lacked in all the departments of the game and todays performance was also a sting back to reality of our fielding . Poor captaining decisions and absurd fielding are the blaming factors.

    I still don't get why shahid afridi is not asked to open instead of the poor opening pair we have know ? If afridi is to be given a chance it has to be in the t20 format and in the six overs when the field is not clustered around the ground ? Secondly in all respect why was sohail tanvir rested and yasir arafat picked ? i think his performance in the IPL and the last t 20

  • Alex on June 7, 2009, 21:23 GMT

    Pathetic, discgraceful and a bunch of cowards!! They didn't even have a go. What a shambles this team is. The preparations fro this tournament have been pathetic, the squad selection questionable and there is no plan. Why is this Ahmad guy at the age of 17 a clueless in english conditions allowed to open the batting. Why get a bunch of rookies in now. What's happened to the fighting spirit, cornered tigers etc. Get the ICL players back and show some passion. They are a bunch of thick idiots who didn't even try to limit the impact of net run rate in the chase. They were playing as though this was the opening day of a 5 day test match. If u want to try out rookies in this competition send the under 19 team. Get rid of the PCB and lets get some players who genuinely want to play and entertain the fans. Pak are out of the competition regardless of what happens on Tuesday. I doubt whether they have the character to beat Holland and squeeze through to get trounced by SA India WI etc!!

  • Saffiullah Naik on June 7, 2009, 21:16 GMT

    A poor performance by Pakistan. I think Salman Butt should be dropped from the team. He has not matured as a batsman at all. He has a very limited range of shots and is inconsistent. Another thing Pakistan need to realize that there is no such thing as 'wickets in hand' in T20s. You have to go at it from ball one to be aggressive and being aggressive doesn't mean just slogging. There is no use just playing out deliveries. You have to keep the run rate going. The match against Netherlands will be tough. The Dutch are a competitive team, not to mention they have Dirk Nannes in their side but if Pakistan bats with more convistion they can surely go through to the super eights.

  • Saqib Kamal on June 7, 2009, 20:50 GMT

    Face it guys - the current Pakistan team is the worst ever. The sooner the Paki fans realise it the better.They dont deserve to be in the same league as India,SA,NZ. I bet they will lose against Netherlands as well.

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  • Saqib Kamal on June 7, 2009, 20:50 GMT

    Face it guys - the current Pakistan team is the worst ever. The sooner the Paki fans realise it the better.They dont deserve to be in the same league as India,SA,NZ. I bet they will lose against Netherlands as well.

  • Saffiullah Naik on June 7, 2009, 21:16 GMT

    A poor performance by Pakistan. I think Salman Butt should be dropped from the team. He has not matured as a batsman at all. He has a very limited range of shots and is inconsistent. Another thing Pakistan need to realize that there is no such thing as 'wickets in hand' in T20s. You have to go at it from ball one to be aggressive and being aggressive doesn't mean just slogging. There is no use just playing out deliveries. You have to keep the run rate going. The match against Netherlands will be tough. The Dutch are a competitive team, not to mention they have Dirk Nannes in their side but if Pakistan bats with more convistion they can surely go through to the super eights.

  • Alex on June 7, 2009, 21:23 GMT

    Pathetic, discgraceful and a bunch of cowards!! They didn't even have a go. What a shambles this team is. The preparations fro this tournament have been pathetic, the squad selection questionable and there is no plan. Why is this Ahmad guy at the age of 17 a clueless in english conditions allowed to open the batting. Why get a bunch of rookies in now. What's happened to the fighting spirit, cornered tigers etc. Get the ICL players back and show some passion. They are a bunch of thick idiots who didn't even try to limit the impact of net run rate in the chase. They were playing as though this was the opening day of a 5 day test match. If u want to try out rookies in this competition send the under 19 team. Get rid of the PCB and lets get some players who genuinely want to play and entertain the fans. Pak are out of the competition regardless of what happens on Tuesday. I doubt whether they have the character to beat Holland and squeeze through to get trounced by SA India WI etc!!

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:15 GMT

    Twenty20 is more for entertainment, even if it is international cricket - Younis khan

    Such an attitude set towards a tournament of such importance shows how motivated the Pakistani cricket team are. While we the fans await a change of our fortunes and see a glimmer of hope such performances as today showcase the fact that our dreams of Pakistan lifting a cup are mere dreams. The performance today lacked everything . Pakistan lacked in all the departments of the game and todays performance was also a sting back to reality of our fielding . Poor captaining decisions and absurd fielding are the blaming factors.

    I still don't get why shahid afridi is not asked to open instead of the poor opening pair we have know ? If afridi is to be given a chance it has to be in the t20 format and in the six overs when the field is not clustered around the ground ? Secondly in all respect why was sohail tanvir rested and yasir arafat picked ? i think his performance in the IPL and the last t 20

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:17 GMT

    contd : are more than required for him to fill a place in Pakistan's starting eleven line up . Lastly referring to the incident of umar gul misfield followed by shy laughter from younis khan and umar gul tell us how far we have come from Pakistan's glory days when under Imran khan and Wasim akram such mistakes were hardly received with smiles. Seeing Pakistan's efforts today i presumer Netherlands are favorites going in on Tuesday.

  • Omer Malik on June 7, 2009, 22:17 GMT

    contd : are more than required for him to fill a place in Pakistan's starting eleven line up . Lastly referring to the incident of umar gul misfield followed by shy laughter from younis khan and umar gul tell us how far we have come from Pakistan's glory days when under Imran khan and Wasim akram such mistakes were hardly received with smiles. Seeing Pakistan's efforts today i presume Netherlands are favorites going in on Tuesday.

  • ali on June 7, 2009, 22:51 GMT

    A captain as non serious and un-inspirational as mr younis khan is a disgrace to pakistan cricket.Shameful how he can be smiling the way he does after losing matches.he is not a leader for sure which has been quite apparent by the way he has handled it..hope they fire his a.. when he brings his team back.disgrace

  • Wasim on June 7, 2009, 22:54 GMT

    Pakistan are a complete waste of time - its time to start with a newv generation without Malik, Afridi, Younis, and arafat.

    Acording to Younis if Pakistan finish 4th then they have to done well - now tell what does this say to your players

    A change in attitude and culture is needed, which can only be achieved with a complete change of guard.

  • Qasim Hussain on June 7, 2009, 23:15 GMT

    Younis Khan is a stupid captain, he captains as if he has no brain or common sence!

    Being an aggressive captain doesn't really mean just putting in allot of fielders in the circle, it's about being analysing your strengths and weaknesses and using them accordingly. The way Umar Gul was handled by Younis Khan was pathetic, he took a wicket first over and Younis replaced him. Had he taken another one or 2 in the next overs the match would have been over for England.

    You could argue that he was saving Younis Khan for later overs but how can anyone justify giving Shoaib Malik an over when he had Afridi & Saeed Ajmal??? Also in the middle overs again, he delayed Gul's comeback and gave Aamer who was excellent but again brought in when Shah & Peterson were settled and scored against him which also probably demorolised him.

    Also, why on earth would you pick Ahmed Shehzad for T2o when he failed so miserably in the tournament at home, he's a fine batsmen for ODI or Test but T20, not.

  • Qasim Hussain on June 7, 2009, 23:19 GMT

    continued...

    Nasir Jamshed was in fine form and he can score quickly, I don't know why he was left out even when he was announced in the T20 team.

    Tanvir needs to be given a chance to perform, he can win us some matches with his bowling along if he gets inform. Yasir Arafat is an average bowler, it will mean having 2 left arm bowlers opening the inings but that's fine as well. Malik also needs to play at no.3 and Kamran Akmal should go back lower down the order. It's a shame how well India has progressed compared to Pakistan in the last couple of years and Pakistan seems to be going backwards!