Twenty20 World Cup 2009 June 9, 2009

Spin turns Orangemen to lemons

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Pakistan discovered that winning is more fun than losing, when they comprehensively defeated Netherlands at Lord's today. Netherlands played with spirit and had an even chance of qualification until Younis Khan introduced the spin pairing of Saeed Ajmal and Shahid Afridi.

From that point onwards, after the sixth over, Pakistan seized complete control of the contest.

The rain kept away and allowed Pakistan's spinners to find improved control and bamboozle the opposition batsmen who are unused to facing such an unorthodox duo.With Pakistan's pacers also finding their length, Younis Khan can be well pleased with their bowling performance and, unusually, the wicket keeping of Kamran Akmal.

Afridi took the crowd's plaudits today with a match-winning spell, a six off the fastest bowler in the match, and Pakistan's first direct hit of the competition in the field.

Pakistan now require the bowlers to continue to be a strength because the batsmen did not score enough to bat Netherlands out of the match. It was good that the senior batsmen took more responsibility but at times, particularly during the partnership between Shoaib Malik and Younis, Pakistan's batting lacked daring and urgency.

Nonetheless, Pakistan's supporters will be relieved that a completely different team turned up today, one that was professional and determined to win. What's more, Pakistan now find themselves in the easier half of the draw with a golden opportunity to reach the semi-finals.

To be more successful, Pakistan require to move to a higher level of performance in their batting and fielding. But the longer they stay in this tournament the stronger they will get, as Pakistan's main handicap--now that they seem to have put their attitude right--is a lack of recent international competition.

A win against Netherlands doesn't make a summer but at least it allows Younis's undercooked team to fight another day.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • hamy on June 12, 2009, 7:53 GMT

    really relieved to see pak in super 8s but the major issues remain, weakness in fielding area(miss fielding drop catches) and the incapable top order batsmen. i suggest that salman butt should be given rest(dropped/kicked out) in match against sri lanka, and ahmed shahzaad should be sent as an opener with akmal, and if fawad is kept in the team, then he should be given the chance to bat one down. i bet pakistan will win if our openers like shahzaad akmal and middle order malik, yonus and misbah and fawad play well and dont disappoint and the fielding side is well organized and our pacers like gul and tanvir play their role to restrict sri lankan top order strong batting lineup then inshallah pak will be victorious.

  • Tamjeed Ali on June 12, 2009, 7:51 GMT

    Younis Khan said that Abdul Razzaq can't play the Sri Lanka game, but he will be available for the "last two" games. Younis seems pretty certain that Pakistan can't advance past the super eights. He needs to change his thinking.

  • ishrat on June 12, 2009, 6:04 GMT

    Just a few things to ponder and tinker with. Shoaib Malik should open and we need Razak back in the thick of things asap. Razak is a naturally gifted big hitter and needs to be sent in at one down with Misbah coming in at two down. GOOD LUCK PAKISTAN

  • atiullah on June 11, 2009, 14:42 GMT

    pak ,if want to qualify have to beat ireland comprehensevely and have to win against at least one of the other two (nz and sri lanka) as sri lanka has better bowling than batting,pak must bat first if it wins the toss ,try to make at least 170 to 180 and get early wickets (dilshan and jaisurya) spinners will play important role against nz,who are struggling due to injury concerns. misbah ul haq and shoib malik must click in major game.i hope at least one good score in 3 matches from shahid afridi. with razzak back in side,pak may opt amer out ,to give more depth in batting or they may just drop fawad if they need extra seemer in a match.

  • atiullah on June 11, 2009, 14:34 GMT

    playing11 for pak should be :

    salman butt shahid afridi kamran akmal yunus khan shoib malik misbah ul haq abdul razzak fawad alam sohail tanveer umar gul ahmad shehzad

  • Amjad Ali on June 11, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    TO JANNIE :

    the group format is worked out in this way:

    All the FOUR semi-finalists in Group A, B C and D i.e India (A), Pakistan (B), followed by NL and Australlia.

    and every n they ve been given the status of A1, B1, C1 and D1..

    these will remain A1, B1, C1 n D1 (n the rest follows accordingly as a2,b2,c2,d2) even if they qualify second in their group because of their previous high ratings. in case of bangladesh and australlia both being eliminated from their spot and since they didnot make it to the super8s, ireland and WI are given their spots i.e A2 n C1 (australlia rated highly than SL so WI replaces AUS which is C1)

    since NL were rated highly than SA they still remain D1 and so does pakistan as B1

    just in case u r not good with it.. read this

    http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/content/story/406918.html

  • Hasan Hashmi on June 10, 2009, 19:38 GMT

    Nice to see Pakistan win.

    I wish that six gives afridi his batting confidence back, some how I still think we need more from his batting then bowling. & Wasim should play for Pakistan instead of doing commentary.

  • Irfan on June 10, 2009, 14:08 GMT

    I guess you didn't like my last post because you never posted it. I was not defending the team’s performance but what really irked me was the timing of that post “Rubbish Pakistan made England looked good”. I think you over reacted. The outpouring of the sentiments was to be expected so there was nothing new there, every blogger was crying for Younis's head. All of a sudden after today’s win everything has changed. And you wrote this article. I expect you to have a rational approach then a common man. Pak team won against a minnow, all the test-playing nations sort of brushed them aside. The inevitable has merely been deferred. The quality opposition will make them come undone completely. Butt who could nevvver face a moving ball must be replaced with the kid "Shahzad", who should be paired up with Akmal. Fawad should be drafted in; his days on the sideline should be over and he should be tossed the ball ahead of Malik for a change, as he is the only lefty spinner in the side.

  • eon on June 10, 2009, 13:23 GMT

    Hi Jannie.. Group E=> IND, SA, WI, ENG Group F=> PAK, NZ, SL, IRE

    Super 8 groups are not based on their ratings or points within their group. It is based on the Seed ratings. So PAK being Seeded as No. 2 will be in Group F ir-respective of whether PAK tops his group or occupies the second spot. Currently top 4 Seed ratings are - IND 1 PAK 2 AUS 3 SA 4

    Thats how the teams were spread across the 4 groups as well. Where top 4 Seeded teams were scattered over the different groups.

  • Amanzeb khan on June 10, 2009, 12:54 GMT

    To Jannie, The slots in the group eg. A1,A2 etc are not based on performance in the group but are based on pretournament ranking. So who tops the group does not have a bearing on the next rounds grouping which is based on the ranking. If a team displaces a ranked team then it just takes its place eg. West Indies has taken Australia's place

  • hamy on June 12, 2009, 7:53 GMT

    really relieved to see pak in super 8s but the major issues remain, weakness in fielding area(miss fielding drop catches) and the incapable top order batsmen. i suggest that salman butt should be given rest(dropped/kicked out) in match against sri lanka, and ahmed shahzaad should be sent as an opener with akmal, and if fawad is kept in the team, then he should be given the chance to bat one down. i bet pakistan will win if our openers like shahzaad akmal and middle order malik, yonus and misbah and fawad play well and dont disappoint and the fielding side is well organized and our pacers like gul and tanvir play their role to restrict sri lankan top order strong batting lineup then inshallah pak will be victorious.

  • Tamjeed Ali on June 12, 2009, 7:51 GMT

    Younis Khan said that Abdul Razzaq can't play the Sri Lanka game, but he will be available for the "last two" games. Younis seems pretty certain that Pakistan can't advance past the super eights. He needs to change his thinking.

  • ishrat on June 12, 2009, 6:04 GMT

    Just a few things to ponder and tinker with. Shoaib Malik should open and we need Razak back in the thick of things asap. Razak is a naturally gifted big hitter and needs to be sent in at one down with Misbah coming in at two down. GOOD LUCK PAKISTAN

  • atiullah on June 11, 2009, 14:42 GMT

    pak ,if want to qualify have to beat ireland comprehensevely and have to win against at least one of the other two (nz and sri lanka) as sri lanka has better bowling than batting,pak must bat first if it wins the toss ,try to make at least 170 to 180 and get early wickets (dilshan and jaisurya) spinners will play important role against nz,who are struggling due to injury concerns. misbah ul haq and shoib malik must click in major game.i hope at least one good score in 3 matches from shahid afridi. with razzak back in side,pak may opt amer out ,to give more depth in batting or they may just drop fawad if they need extra seemer in a match.

  • atiullah on June 11, 2009, 14:34 GMT

    playing11 for pak should be :

    salman butt shahid afridi kamran akmal yunus khan shoib malik misbah ul haq abdul razzak fawad alam sohail tanveer umar gul ahmad shehzad

  • Amjad Ali on June 11, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    TO JANNIE :

    the group format is worked out in this way:

    All the FOUR semi-finalists in Group A, B C and D i.e India (A), Pakistan (B), followed by NL and Australlia.

    and every n they ve been given the status of A1, B1, C1 and D1..

    these will remain A1, B1, C1 n D1 (n the rest follows accordingly as a2,b2,c2,d2) even if they qualify second in their group because of their previous high ratings. in case of bangladesh and australlia both being eliminated from their spot and since they didnot make it to the super8s, ireland and WI are given their spots i.e A2 n C1 (australlia rated highly than SL so WI replaces AUS which is C1)

    since NL were rated highly than SA they still remain D1 and so does pakistan as B1

    just in case u r not good with it.. read this

    http://www.cricinfo.com/wt202009/content/story/406918.html

  • Hasan Hashmi on June 10, 2009, 19:38 GMT

    Nice to see Pakistan win.

    I wish that six gives afridi his batting confidence back, some how I still think we need more from his batting then bowling. & Wasim should play for Pakistan instead of doing commentary.

  • Irfan on June 10, 2009, 14:08 GMT

    I guess you didn't like my last post because you never posted it. I was not defending the team’s performance but what really irked me was the timing of that post “Rubbish Pakistan made England looked good”. I think you over reacted. The outpouring of the sentiments was to be expected so there was nothing new there, every blogger was crying for Younis's head. All of a sudden after today’s win everything has changed. And you wrote this article. I expect you to have a rational approach then a common man. Pak team won against a minnow, all the test-playing nations sort of brushed them aside. The inevitable has merely been deferred. The quality opposition will make them come undone completely. Butt who could nevvver face a moving ball must be replaced with the kid "Shahzad", who should be paired up with Akmal. Fawad should be drafted in; his days on the sideline should be over and he should be tossed the ball ahead of Malik for a change, as he is the only lefty spinner in the side.

  • eon on June 10, 2009, 13:23 GMT

    Hi Jannie.. Group E=> IND, SA, WI, ENG Group F=> PAK, NZ, SL, IRE

    Super 8 groups are not based on their ratings or points within their group. It is based on the Seed ratings. So PAK being Seeded as No. 2 will be in Group F ir-respective of whether PAK tops his group or occupies the second spot. Currently top 4 Seed ratings are - IND 1 PAK 2 AUS 3 SA 4

    Thats how the teams were spread across the 4 groups as well. Where top 4 Seeded teams were scattered over the different groups.

  • Amanzeb khan on June 10, 2009, 12:54 GMT

    To Jannie, The slots in the group eg. A1,A2 etc are not based on performance in the group but are based on pretournament ranking. So who tops the group does not have a bearing on the next rounds grouping which is based on the ranking. If a team displaces a ranked team then it just takes its place eg. West Indies has taken Australia's place

  • zain on June 10, 2009, 12:25 GMT

    why the hell kamran akmal was given the man of the match award???I mean this t20 cricket....batsman are given all the luxuries in the world to hit the bowlers even then a bowler(afridi) bowls a splended spell and also scores few timely runs, doesn't get the man of the match?

    Pak looked much better team today but fielding needs to improve significently and also plzzzzzzzzzz get rid of salman butt give shahzaib a chance.

  • Sarah on June 10, 2009, 12:18 GMT

    It's good that they have won but they must improve their strategy and performance to compete with the better teams in the super 8 stage.

  • Abdul Majid Siddiqui on June 10, 2009, 12:16 GMT

    It is our history that when we win we forget all the issues and try to show everything in bright colors until the next bad result. I am a hardline supporter of Pakistan and Pakitan Cricket team and I want them to always do good, but I also beleive that it is impossible to expect from them much until making some drastic changes: I suggest the following: Open with Afridi and Salman 3. Ahmed Shahzad 4. Kamran Akmal 5. Younus Khan 6. Misbah-ul-Haq 7. Sohail Tanveer 8. Fawad Alam 9. Omar Gul 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Mohammed Aamir

    Fawad Alam should be given a permanent palce in Pakistan one day 20/20 squads and should fully utilized If Salman Butt doesn't show any improvement in fielding replace him with Shoaib Malik and open with Afridi and Ahmed Shahzad. I hope if everybody play with sincereity and to hi full potential this would prove to be a wining combination (Inshallah)

  • Jamal Khan on June 10, 2009, 12:06 GMT

    Please no Butts anymore. Take some risk since Afridi is holing out when there are fielders outside. So send him opener when there is almost nobody outside. If openers fall early then send Malik 1 down since he can guide otherwise send Akmal since he can keep the pace. Shehzad is better then Butt. Fawad should come after Misbah.

  • Rasheed from New York on June 10, 2009, 12:05 GMT

    Okay guys Pakistan atlast makes it to super eights. Its just something about this team. There is no telling what kind of a day at the field they will have. I still think after watching their performance from their last match, they still lack the hunger to win. And with their matches with teams like Sri Lanka which beat Australia and NewZeland who are known for their power hitting, Pakistan and specially YK will need a spark and clear thinking. T20 is for fun YK but your team is only as good as ur motivation and thinking. Pakistan if anything still need to think simple as first six over atleast 60 runs in PP and 180 plus to have any chance against teams in super eights. Batsmen cant always rely on Afridi and Ajmal to deliver. Runs on the board matters. Good luck to Pakistan our prayers are with u for the rest of the tournament. RA

  • Yas on June 10, 2009, 11:47 GMT

    Wow about time the real Pak team decided to turn up...well done on a pretty easy victory although i was hoping the Dutch would have given the Paks a real run. Glad to see Afridi back to his bowling best, just hope he can keep it up in the Super 8's as they will definitely have to be in top form to get past that stage.

    Our fielding was slightly better, Akmal made some very nice stumpings and did really well with the bat...shame none of the other batsmen played with his vigour that he showed. I hope that this victory has put some fire in the Pakistan teams belly. Although as much as i love Pak cricket team i cant see them getting past the super 8's..Sri Lanka and NZ will destroy us if we arent in top form and even Ireland can beat us as shown in the 50 over WC a few yrs ago.

    Anyways i still think the team needs a complete overhaul...we need Yousef, Razzaq, Imran Nazir and Rana back in the squad especially when its 20/20.

  • imran on June 10, 2009, 11:31 GMT

    erm...was anyone watching the same game i was watching? the fielding was atrocious and i just dont get it at all, we are gifting 20-30 runs per match and thats a liability we cannot afford. at least we didnt concede no-balls like the last match but we were playing the netherlands, a reality check is much needed. our batting wasnt aggressive enough in the middle overs, sohail tanvir is carrying an injury and it was only their inexperience playing against spin that got us through

  • Sohaib Khan on June 10, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    Jannie,

    ICC has already defined the Teams rankings in their Group Stages before the WC started on the basis od their previous performances.

    e.g Australia were 1, Srilanka were 2 whereas West Indies had no rank. After Australia exit, West Indies replaced 1 whereas Srilanka will remain on 2 either they loss or win today's match.

    Pakistan ranked to 1 so after their lost to England, they are still 1 in their Group.

    Super 8s has been decided:

    Group 1 India (A1) England (B2) West Indies (C1) South Africa (D2)

    Group 2 Ireland (A2) Pakistan (B1) Srilanka (C2) New Zealand (D1)

  • Sohail Rafaqat on June 10, 2009, 11:22 GMT

    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's the way they have to play every game, then the cup will be i our lap.

  • Jannie on June 10, 2009, 10:31 GMT

    Hi How does draw for Super 8 works? SA, WI and England makes up Group E, but we do not know if Wi or Sl will top Group C? They only play today. SA in the Cricinfo ended as D2 but SA topped Group D? Please help!!

  • Suhaib Ahmed on June 10, 2009, 10:29 GMT

    I was not expecting such a reception for victory against the Netherlands. I guess we adjust our expectations based on were we are.

    Anyways the only blemish yesterday was the dropped catch by "Salman Butterfingers" :D

  • Malik on June 10, 2009, 10:25 GMT

    The victory against the Dutch is being celebrated as if Pakistan as already won the tournament. If one looks at the recent matches Pakistan has played, it is their first victory, and that too against a non-test playing country. Otherwise South Africa and India easily brushed aside Pakistan. Younis Khan must understand that there is no "fun" in the lives of the people of Pakistan. If he wants to bring some smile on the people of this unfortunate country, he and his team should play very "seriously".

  • Amanzeb Khan on June 10, 2009, 10:20 GMT

    I see most of the contributors suggesting that hitters like Afridi and Sohail should be promoted in the order. I cant disagree more. It is your top frontline batsman who can consistently win you games against good opposition. Sending your hitters up the order will only add inconsistency. It may come off in the odd game but you need to be consistent in such a competition. And as for the criticism of the Malik/Younis partnership we have to understand that even though it is just 20 overs it is not all about indiscriminate hitting. You have to build partnerships and plan your innings carefully. The time Younis spent in that phase did assist him to accelerate later in his innings. I think a lot of us misunderstand what 20-20 cricket is all about. If you saw the IPL second edition it was more than evident that players playing proper cricketing shots instead of slogs were more successful. And teams did not hit out wildly right through the 20 overs.

  • shahzad akhtar on June 10, 2009, 9:58 GMT

    could anybody tell the team managment that taking singles and not picking up boundries in the middle overs of t20 is ruining their chances of reaching any decent position in the worldcup. the psyche and mechanisim of t20 is very different from one day. captain and coach must realize that if you have 8 wickets in hand then whats the point of taking singles on every ball in the middle overs?. secondly its a shame the way younas khan comes to comment on issues. too bad pcb can not even hire some oriffessionals who could work on the english speaking abilities of team.

  • Walid Malik on June 10, 2009, 9:44 GMT

    Yesterday Pakistani team was totally different in all aspects of the game ... some what fielding too ! our team composition was perfect. Alam got a chance but our midle ordr line up was so good tht he only got to face two balls. Pakistan should now think twice tht where exactly does Afridi fits in the batting order... at no: 6 or 7 position i saw him performing ages ago ... try him as an opener ? field would be inside the circle and he could make full use of it !

  • potwar on June 10, 2009, 9:44 GMT

    If you want Pak to win make AFRIDI the captain. He is agressive and can lift a side. Sure he will lose some matches but I will bet you that he will win many more. YK is not T20 player. I have no issues with him being test & one day team captain.

  • Syed Imran Mehdi on June 10, 2009, 9:31 GMT

    Rejouvenated PAK team...A Good performance at the end but next match against Srilanka in Super Dooooper 8 will be much more "FUN" and hop it will be "FUN"..!!

  • Dr. Mubahir Hanif on June 10, 2009, 9:23 GMT

    Assalamoalikum!Look at us, we are so happy after beating Netherlands like we have won the world cup, is that our standard now?if yes , then we can only feel pity for the situation. I think the real points to ponder are the resign of a genuine and a faithful Pakistani, Abdul Qadir who says, he could not work under influence. And Akram suggesting an advisory board of X-players. This is extremely important as the experience of Miandad, Akram, inzamam, Aqib, Moin can be vital. They can give tips that can be extremely usefull.They can help make a plan and implement it and can also help guys on the eves of TOUGH matches. Srilanka and Newzeland look much stronger units and Ireland have kicked Pakistan out of the World cup, so the real test starts on Jumma. With so many dropped catches and sloppy fielding, it would be real tough against good oppositions.Pakistan and PCB should break the shackles and get freed from BULLY politicians and their influences.Peace

  • Rauf on June 10, 2009, 9:19 GMT

    A third "pendulum" blog from you Kamran in as many days clearly shows how inconsistent Pak cricket team is and how fanatic Pak cricket fans are.

    Let's be honest... Holland is not known for it's cricket prowess so let's not drool all over this win. Losses to England and in the warmup games shows the team's weak underbelly. They are just prolonging the fan's agony with this win.

  • Atif on June 10, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    Dear Kamran bahi, you went too far saying Pakistan rubbish and bring back Badashas and Badmashs whereas they left Pakistan for easy money to play a tournament which was not allowed by ICC. Anyways we are still proud of our team and though they are unpredictable but that is the nature of the game. At the end as YK said its all fun, so please enjoy and support Pakistan, we need it.

  • Mian Gul Muhammed on June 10, 2009, 8:12 GMT

    Well done to win this game but I still stick to my previous comments that we need to run PCB as a business entity, change the entire sqaud and make team members professionals not stars. All those who were after the bloods of all these cricketers after the defeat against England are praising them now. That is a very clear indication of an emotional nation who got no vision, goal or even direction. All we have is an emotional attitude rather than rational approach. Good Luck in rest of the tournament to the Pak team.

  • Aizaz on June 10, 2009, 8:11 GMT

    A good win from Pakistan but when will this whining of Pakistanis stop. Salman Butt is the best opener we have had since Anwar and Sohail. His fielding has been bad but it will only get better, Imran farhat and Imran Nazir are back foot players and can only score in t20. I hope pakis dont drop Butt it will be a big mistake. The paki bowling is not the same without the rawalpinndi express.

  • Ali Q on June 10, 2009, 7:57 GMT

    Pakistanis get huge relief because they qualify along with their old rivals- India. The team were playing more in their senses with slight adjustments still needed. Competitive team for me is; shoaib malik, kamran akmal, misbah ul haq, younis khan, shahid afridi, fawad alam, yasir arafat, sohail tanvir, umer gul, mohd amir, saeed ajmal, 4spinners,3fast/med,9batsman &good fielders this brings in variety in the team and confuses the oppositions. T20 needs attacking batsman and bowlers. arafat,alam can be handy at death overs if any of the frontline bowlers fail. Batting seems fine as long as YKhan doesnt slog in middle overs. Tanvir can be replaced by Rao if injury scare. Good luck to back-in-form Paksitanis. Winning against minnows Netherlands is a boost but not the end of the world. Buck up! Ali Q

  • Murtaza Bharmal on June 10, 2009, 7:55 GMT

    Well Done Pakistan! Pakistan team kept the hopes of the fans alive, good to see that. But still long way to go for them. They can not be too complacent. Pakistan bowled well but still there is a much room for improvement in batting and specially in fielding. They dropped 2 catches against Netherlands and Afridi missed a run out opportunity. This will not help them against the side like SriLanka and Newzeland which they have to face in Super Eight. Hope that team will perform well in Super Eight.

  • Mohammad Aslam on June 10, 2009, 7:36 GMT

    WELL DONE PAKISTAN.WE CAN DO IT.As on of the fan wrote the banner.CONGRATULATION.... I would request (FOR ALLAH SAKE)to open inning with Afridi and Akmal.No 3 Misbah 4 Younas 5 Tanvir 6 Malik and onward..Malik is playing test match in T20 which he should stop either through his wicket or do some thing better.Spin should start with Saeed and Afridi.Again I request for Fast bowlers to bowl with line and length.Coz now you will facing good teams.Like S.L.and N.Z.and of course donot take easy the Ireland.To get J.suriya one deep point fielder should be kept and on deep midwicket.Now PCB should take strong decesion to get Imran N.Abdul razzak Rana and Mohammd Yousuf in this tournament if you want to lift this CUP.And INSHALLAH with the help of ALLAH we can DO IT.In first 6 overs no player should stop hitting and should make a target of 200 runs if you bat first.I must tell readers and writers of BLOG that beating Holland is not flook as it happend with team work and our Duas&must keep up.

  • Syed Muhammad Naqvi on June 10, 2009, 7:33 GMT

    In Wasim Akram's words, Younis now have realized that victory is also fun irrespect of who your opponents are. Great to see Pakistan winning and some serious attitudes can be seen from the players outfit and this is encouraging if this momentum continues then I am sure we will see some quality stuff for which Pakistan known for. Wish to see Pakistan through to the final two games. And to see them through to the victory stand. A Pakistani Fan with all emotions and enthusiasm. Wishing Pakistan team all the best! We just want to see fighting cricket, Winning or losing is part of the game, but we want fighting spirit only.

  • M.Qasim on June 10, 2009, 7:24 GMT

    Yes Pakistan can do it...Thats a thing(spirit) we were missing in pak team now they win or lose it doesn't make any difference but they should play for nation and fight hard for win.

  • Adeel Mushtaq on June 10, 2009, 7:23 GMT

    A win is a win .. it will surely get some confidence back. thr were flaws which they need to work hard on though i don think thr is enuf time for that, more than anything else each individual shud believe what he can do EXTRA, if that will be da spirit PAK will do wonders. No no-balls, control on wide balls, no head high wide balls, no over throws, if dont want to dive, don’t bt shud attack the ball n try to save that one extra run, each run saved in t20 is GOLD. Malik shud assess whether he wants to b a greater part of this team n need to show more commitment n urgency. Bad thing on younis part ws not giving a single over to Alam even wen da match was in da bag. For now Pak shud stick to the same team, hopefully Tanvir can stay fit. Well 11 players standing in ground watched by millions when the national anthem is being played n seeing that Green Flag flying … isn't it enuf motivation to get hold of that CUP. Guys give ur very best n u ll be da Heroes of a Nation in NEED.

  • the great one on June 10, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    I think that Australia's time shall come in 20/20. There is no doubt that Australia certainly has some very talented 20/20 players but the problem is the selection policy does not accomodate for the unique nature of 20/20. Apart from warner and david hussey the rest on the line-up is more test orientated and ODI orientated, who are more suited to building a solid innings rather than scoring quickly in a short period. Australia has not lost a 20/20 international match in Australia yet has hardly won any overseas. The only overseas wins was the first 20/20 ever against NZ and a couple of matches in the 20/20 World Championship in 2007 where they reached the semis and were defeated by the eventual victors India.

  • Kashif on June 10, 2009, 7:09 GMT

    Well.. where do I start.. throught out the match last night my heart was beating like as if we are palying in the Final Against SA... I do understand that this win was against minnows Holland.. and not in HOCKEY but in Cricket, but still i could feel the pressure and I am sure the same would have been the case with pakistan team, and for once they did not crumble under pressure... And the positive attitude and intent was there and I am sure with the same zest they can chanllange any side in the world.. lets support our team and hope things go well for them in the future....

  • Aamir Akhund on June 10, 2009, 7:05 GMT

    What a Win. i dont even mind it one bit that it came against an opposition whom we expect to roll on 10 times out of 10. The balance of the team was much better and so was the planning. Yonus played extremely well given the rate Malik was traveling at and an exiting finish by the lower order ( i would say exiting but nothing special). Salman Butt has to be kicked in the backside and for once we should drop him down the batting order(if we cant drop him out of the team due to injuries to other key members of the side) and go with Fawad Alam as an opener along with Kamran Akmal. Finally a warning for all the lovers of the Baby Blue Indian Team. you guys need to watch out for the cornered tigers. There is a real posiblity that we would face the Indian Team in the Semi- Final (i would want it to be a India-Pak Final) and this time around we just need to show up with the same intensity that we showed yesterday and like the Dutchs the Indian Team will taste the sweet taste of defeat.

  • Faridoon on June 10, 2009, 7:01 GMT

    My euphoria at beating Netherlands is actually quite sad. Have our expectations for the team lowered to such an extent that a win against Netherlands is being celebrated.

    Yes, yes, I know that part of this cheer is because this win means we get to stay in the competition but how could it come to this? How could all of us doubt that Pakistan could beat Netherlands and admit it, all of us were skeptical about it.

    Did you guys see Butt getting stared at by the captain and getting a mouthful of "Kya kar rahay ho, maro na" while fielding when he released the ball too late for Yunis's liking. Yet when Afridi missed a straight forward run out chance, Mr. Khan was giggling like a 10 year old girl. I'll say it again, Yunis seems to have a soft corner from players from his part of the country; and it's becoming too obvious. Watch it, Yunis.

  • NfP on June 10, 2009, 6:59 GMT

    Lol. Love the heading, Kamran. :) Pakistan were good, but the batting wasn't all that convincing, was it? There wont be many teams willing to be turned into lemons in the next round though.

  • addas khan on June 10, 2009, 6:51 GMT

    I was watching the other day how the S.Lankans were batting against the Aussies and the thing that struck me was the sound the bat was making when they struck the ball. everything was coming off the middle of the bat and they played excellent cricket strokes along with the big hits. Compare that with the way Malik,Younus and butt were scratching, edging, mishitting so many its unbelievable. It really is frustrating when you know that they should push on with the scoring rate! I remember David Lloyd on the commentary egging Pak to get on with it! why? cos they expect teams like pak to hit 4's and 6's for FUN!!!(get it!!) You have butt who cant rotate the strike, with him its 4 or out You have Malik and Younis who think they are playing 40 overs instead of 20 and then you end up giving Misbah, our best player in this format 3 overs! If we can get past SL we could get into the semis....but we have to sort out the batting quick..no point commenting on the fielding!!!!!!!

  • imran on June 10, 2009, 6:44 GMT

    As usual a emotionally charged article, just one win and everything is right. Afridi has never delivered in crunch time during his 13 years of international career how come we expect him to do it now aganist some tough opponents. Nevertheless now Pakistan has a great chance to reach the semifinal because of an easy round. Even if they reach semifinals it doesn't mean that their problems are solved and they have become a force to reckoin. Their problems will remain the same and will come back to haunt them unless the board take drastic steps to improve the over management, which seems highly unlikely while taking into consideration their past performance. So, good luck to Pakistani team for the next round......

  • armani on June 10, 2009, 6:43 GMT

    Pathetic younis ! Blunders of today. 1- Sending malik @ 3. It seems like he is playing for lose rather than a victory. 2- With 8 overs to go and 8 wickets in hands still nudging singles against low level of bowling. Simply pathetic. 3- Tanvir bowling with rhythm and got a slight injury in his 3rd over. Despite asking him to bowl his last over and bring in a sub fielder for him, he stayed in the field letting runs and catches go. 4- Asking malik to bowl. When you have regular bowlers. Why not fawad. He can do much better under cloudy conditions. Ball skids when you deliver it fast.

  • Gladiator on June 10, 2009, 6:31 GMT

    Common Kamran,be a bit moderate with the title,after all Pakistan have beaten only an associate nation which they were expected to do.

  • ARIF YAZDANI on June 10, 2009, 6:26 GMT

    Now when Pakistan's team has qualified for the super eight matches, and we have no time to gloat, the players will have to get serious & get ready for the next phase. Pakistan's team have to stay positive and focused, and even if we don't make to semifinals, "on the job training" for some young players will be fruitful and helpful to make this team emerge as experienced and mature team in the future.

  • Shoaib Abbasi. on June 10, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    They need to improve these areas,

    1). Hitting in middle order even they have wickets. 2). More sixes required in 20 20 to win. 3). Catching. 4). Send tanvir when spinners operating and give him role to hit muralli and mendis... if he failed give chance to fawad. left handers are suitable for hitting there.

  • Adeel Mushtaq on June 10, 2009, 6:19 GMT

    A win is a win .. it will surely get some confidence back. thr were flaws which they need to work hard on though i don think thr is enuf time for that, more than anything else each individual shud believe what he can do EXTRA, if that will be da spirit PAK will do wonders. No no-balls, control on wide balls, no head high wide balls, no over throws, if dont want to dive, don’t bt shud attack the ball n try to save that one extra run, each run saved in t20 is GOLD. Malik shud assess whether he wants to b a greater part of this team n need to show more commitment n urgency. Bad thing on younis part ws not giving a single over to Alam even wen da match was in da bag. For now Pak shud stick to the same team, hopefully Tanvir can stay fit. Well 11 players standing in ground watched by millions when the national anthem is being played n seeing that Green Flag flying … isn't it enuf motivation to get hold of that CUP. Guys give ur very best n u ll be da Heroes of a Nation in NEED.

  • Munir Aslam on June 10, 2009, 6:16 GMT

    It was a good enough win, but remember it was against Netherlands who are among the minnows. The win should not mislead the team management. They must see the video of the match against England and find out their faults to look for remedy. Good to see Fawad Alam in the team - better late than never. Tanveer looks lethargic. Wonder why did the PCB thought of dropping Shoaib Akhtar and picking Rao? That too against the opinion of the selectors! If Rao is so good then why is he not in the playing eleven? The batting order needs to be changed keeping in view the requirement of T20 game. Power play overs are ideal for Afridi as he normally gets caught in the deep when he bats late. His contribution down the order is not much. He and Kamran can make a good pair. Misbah and Fawad should be moved up to get a better run rate. Younis and Malik normally put brakes by their a-run-a-ball effort. Pity, the only consistant thing about Pakistan is their pathetic standard of fielding! No remedy?

  • redone (sam.ali) on June 10, 2009, 6:05 GMT

    salaam to all da readers! a good win, but it shouldnt b somthing to b writing home about! this should happens ten times out of ten, us beating holland! y is it the best opening pair in pak cricket of i nazir and i farhat in this format is left behind, even after thy had a good run up to this tournament? and also pak best allrounder is out of the squad, abdul razzaq, an then thy also didnt bring rana naveeed with them also! there is somthing very wrong wid pak cricket. how can u expect to win or play against the best teams in the world whn u have left ur best team behind? this isnt a experimenting ground 4 young players! that was done in the domestic tournament be4 this, and thy r the players who performed and done well, stats dnt lie! and thy still didnt get picked!! this is the worst squad selected to play a 20 20 tournament. its like saying to a pak soilder go to war but we have taken ur machine gun and bombs away frm u, make do wid a water pistol! i jus pray 4 a miracle 2 happen

  • Qaiser on June 10, 2009, 6:04 GMT

    We dropped 4 catches and missed out on 1 runout .. what is the state of affairs? Can anyone explain that to me, as i dont find any sense of responsibility amongst our team towards the nation and a zillion hopeless fans. I wish i could conduct a townhall with the team and cascade the message "We dont play for fun but for PRIDE......"

  • Kumar on June 10, 2009, 5:51 GMT

    What is it with Indian and Pakistani fans (Pakistani fans more nowadays) that they get so wildly jubiliant and so utterly despondent the moment their teams win or lose a game! Clearly it shows the passion for cricket in the subcontinent. It also shows the immaturity of the subcontinent fans (especially Pakistani fans) when they blame all kinds of external parties - BCCI, ICC, Allah, PCB, etc - rather than the players themselves who are supposed to deliver on the field. People who really believe prayers help their teams play better should grow up. Anyway, good fun and am glad Pakistan has made it in to the semis. Semis should be easy in group B - Pak, SL, NZ, Ireland. Group A looks like a lot more fun - Ind, SA, Eng, WI. I am sure a marauding Gayle will cause Indian fans to react the same as the Pakistanis! :-)

  • Zeeshan Ahmed Siddiqui on June 10, 2009, 5:50 GMT

    Now we won match against Netherland but we have to focus now about the coming matches. Dear Younis, you have to think about bowling. I watched even in last match when Saeed took two wickets, you changed him. In my opinion if someone is doing well, please continue the same bowler. For Kamran as an opener, in my opinion is that he is not specialist batsman and in coming matches, we should focus on regular openers. Please find below sequence according to me. Salman Butt and Ahmed OR Shahzaib for opening, no. 3 Younis Khan, no. 4 Misbah, Malik, Akmal, Tanvir, Afridi and then others. Misbah at no. 5 is not suitable, I think change him to no. 4. You can also change yourself to no. 5 and Malik at no. 3. I think Misbah should have a chance to play 35 to 40 bowls per match. In last match he played only 20 bowls. Also remember one more thing is that Afridi bowling is that always excellent in England so I rate him regular bowler in England, not no. 5 bowler of team.

  • Asad Zareef on June 10, 2009, 5:45 GMT

    I think that you are quite right in your point of view but what i think is that they should open with Shahid K Afridi instead of Salman Butt. If they do show Afridi can be a little more useful as he throws his bat at the ball and with no swing in these pitches he can be our trump card as most of his mishits have a fair chance of landing safely. I think Pakistan need to improve their feilding a lot specially salman butt because he only scored 18 runs in this match and leaked more than 18 runs in the field so he was no use to the team. Anyways all my best wishes are with Pakistan to win the World T20.

  • Asifullah ..Bannu.. on June 10, 2009, 5:23 GMT

    first congrate to Pakistan team and the whole nation.lets prey that Pakistan team start performing well and win the cup.Ameen.

  • ahmed on June 10, 2009, 5:20 GMT

    Pakistan atlast shown to the world why they are such a fearsome team, such an exciting team . They pushed the right button at the right time lets hope that they will carry this performance through out the series, even if they lose out to any team let them put the fight . They should bring back their "Glorious days attitudes" I.E Never say die attitude . To this end i have only one recommendation which i hope Younis will and should consider seriously . Yasir Arafat should play instead of Fawad Alam . Yasir Arafat is a real class player ,I personally feel that he has lot to offer with his quality batting and he can step up the Gas when required . I feel that he has remarkable resemblance to Abdur Razzak hitting , May be few people will raise their brows about his bowling ,Yes i admit that his bowling is weak .. dont give him bowling but you can place your whole wealth as a bet on this guy's batting talent. I sincerely hope pakistan Cricket management will consider my Wish.

  • Owais on June 10, 2009, 5:02 GMT

    Despite the fact that Holland is an associate cricket playing nation, they certainly had chances for qualifying and the margin by which Pakistan has won showed that they can perform well against test playing nations. They are some concerns over the slow batting of Malik and Salman but i think Yunis and intikhab alam have the ability to sort it out so we should be concerned with our fielding rather than critisizing the poor batting display by malik and salman butt

  • Gohar on June 10, 2009, 5:01 GMT

    This is really good to see Team Green performing well, because it was a match to gain their lost pride. You can't predict Team pakistan but remember once they get going their is nothing which stops them, also there are only two players who can take Pakistan to the final four one is Afridi and other is Misbah. Hope they will get going. My prayers are with them. GO GREEN GO!!!

  • Aasif Sheikh on June 10, 2009, 4:51 GMT

    Unless Pak doesn't get kicked they don't perform and that is not just on the cricketing field but in any job. This reminds me on 92 world cup where they lost most of their games and then got back in the tournament and won, I just pray that they perform well to get to the semi...

  • suliman on June 10, 2009, 4:48 GMT

    its good pakistan bet holland today cos sometimes beating a minnow can get a team into rhythm and now its important they play well against srilanka cos that will be tough match,even teams and should be a great contest.

  • Ameen on June 10, 2009, 4:44 GMT

    Guys,

    Take it easy we were playing Holland in a cricket match not in field Hockey. We saw what happened with a regular team like England and India during the warm up game.

    My two cents would be to open with Fawad Alam and Kamran Akmal. Butt is not made for this format and with his fielding he is not made for any form of cricket. It should be followed by Misbah, Afridi and then whoever based on the situation.

  • illi on June 10, 2009, 4:43 GMT

    Totally agree with u Ahmed Zaki, I have been saying the same thing to Kamran Sahab, but he doesn't seem to heed to what we say

  • illi on June 10, 2009, 4:41 GMT

    Totally agree with u Ahmed Zaki, I have been saying the same thing to Kamran Sahab, but he doesn't seem to heed to what we say

  • Farrukh on June 10, 2009, 4:41 GMT

    Even after wining this match i m worry y Malik n Butt in Pak side...do they deserve to be part of the team... y Msibah cant be promoted at No 3 n Fawad at no 5.... Is it possible to send A. Razzaq or Imran Nazir as replacement of Yasir Arafat....

  • Abdur Razzak on June 10, 2009, 4:26 GMT

    huh a sigh of a relief! well the nature of this unit is such isn't it. totally unpredictable. well i've got a funny feeling, this could well be a turning point. who knows might end up in the semis. let's pray for that. good work men in green.

  • fhs on June 10, 2009, 4:14 GMT

    No doubt this win came when it was`needed the most. lets hope that Pakistan team will take it as starting point - the journey actually starts now. Good to see 2 leftys (Tanveer, Alam) back in the side. Wish not see to see Shehazad and Arfat back in the side. No place for Butt. Akmal to open with Malik and Misbah to come on #3. Afridi, Gul and Ajmal - they need to be used effectively and smartly. Amir and Tanveer - if they take 1 wiceket a piece in the opening spell - we have a fair chance to go to semis. Go Pakistan!!!

  • Moazzam on June 10, 2009, 4:13 GMT

    Lady Luck .... well its just that lady luck was on our side once more. For once in this series Pakistan played as a team but still there were decisions made by Yonus that did not made any sense. For example Fawad Alam in playing 11 "I believe as a bowler" but not given the ball? HMNNN ... Comparing Shoaib Malik and Fawad Alam, Me as a captain would give Fawad the chance. Then Sohail Tanveer looked like he inflicted a hip injury. Why Yonus did not took him off the field once the job was done ??? well none the less job well done, TEAM PAKISTAN ... and good luck for the Super 8.

  • shaan on June 10, 2009, 4:03 GMT

    Hi To all! well my name is shaan. i m great of pakistan. and wat we witnessed yesterday was a class act. but they are not a tough oppenent. anyway pakistan won. well i really dont know wat happening to pakistan cricket. there were olden days like few years back everyone will fear pakistan cricket. well wats happened now. earier we got a team who won the worldcup and also the team which played in the 1999 worldcup. they were class. i would say that is pakistan team i loved to watch so many times. but not now... well there's lot to be changed in the team. there people has to come out like anwar, sohail, afridi, ijaz, inzimam, malik, moin, saqlaim, wasim , waqar, akhtar, mustaq, this is the best team in the world where no one can beat them... so get the people as much as they can and prepare them like wasim , waqar, saqlain, anwar . then well witness that pakistan team is the best in the world where no team is there to beat them. the top team and the world class team in the world.

  • Faisal Bilal on June 10, 2009, 3:48 GMT

    Fielding was still pathetic. Batting in middle was very slow. Pakitan has to improve a lot.

  • Hassan on June 10, 2009, 3:36 GMT

    I'm wondering why do we still need Sulman Butt since there are great players like IMRAN NAZIR, Abdul Razzaq, Muhammad Yousaf (It's strange that law should make life easier than complicated & Pakistani Law should allow these players to take part into this big event) - I predict if Pakistani team reassembles itself with great players, we're gonna be THE HEROS of this event. The dream team for this T20; 1-IMRAN NAZIR 2-SHAHID AFRIDI 3-MISBAH-UL-HAQ 4-MUHAMMAD YOUSAF 5-YOUNAS KHAN 6-KAMRAN AKMAL 7-ABDUL RAZZAQ 8-SOHAIL TANVIR 9-SAEED AJMAL 10-MUHAMMAD AAMAR 11-UMER GUL Technically, here we've batting order till #8, 2 spinners, 2 fast & 2 medium pacer - this could be the most difficult team in the event. BUT - ITZ DREAM :)

  • J ZARIF on June 10, 2009, 3:30 GMT

    A big relief that Pak qualifies. YK still need to grow,Afridi to open the innings and salman to be droped. Pak need to understand that there is no consolidation period in 20/20 they should play every over as if this is one of the last five.

  • Muhammad on June 10, 2009, 3:26 GMT

    A big relief that Pak qualifies. YK still need to grow.Afridi to open the innings and salman to be droped. Pak need to understand that there is no consolidation period in 20/20 they should play every over as if this is one of the last five.

  • Muhammad on June 10, 2009, 3:26 GMT

    A big relief that Pak qualifies. YK still need to grow.Afridi to open the innings and salman to be droped. Pak need to understand that there is no consolidation period in 20/20 they should play every over as if this is one of the last five.

  • Amir Masood (Sydney, Australia) on June 10, 2009, 2:41 GMT

    Pakistan crushed Holland,looks like a miracle only after the way they performed in England as yet,else no big deal.The only difference was in the altitude of the players today which is of core importance,when their is passion u will deliver but not with pathetic body language and laughing reactions on failures.YK should refrain talking to media and keep it to the minimum,focus on on-field meshored activities rather than unneccessarily laughing and talking.S Malik should be restricted to test or max. 1 day.Salman Butt should go to Test cricket only,he is the batsman with limited shots and his fielding is disgrace.Bring back 2 imran's as openers in 1day and T20 and bring Yousuf, Razzaq and Asif in all forms of the game.EBUTT,IAlam,YSaeed should be replaced with modern professionals.

    4 da current tornmnt Akmal&Fawad should open and Misbah 1 down.S Butt shld make way for an allrounder.Not much options in bowling given the team selected 4 this trnmnt I gues ST,GUL,Amir,Ajmal,Afridi rbest

  • AM on June 10, 2009, 2:31 GMT

    to all the indians here...two words "typical indians"!!!!!! since the existence of pak all indians have done is to not miss an opportunity to kick pak when its down. never. give you an example, after lahore attacks on S.L, Dhoni said in N.Z 'its not Lahore so security shouldn't be problem'. Modi said something similar. as they say "a beggar will still have begging mentality even if he has millions"..same for indians, they are currently prosperring yet have the same mentality "lets stick kinves into pak". in any blog related to pak (out side of cricket as well) you'll see a appearence of indians there with their kinves. sad and pathetic really, i thought the hatred mentality was dying out with people of partition era yet it exists in young (e.g Dhoni, Modi) ones as well.

  • Dheeraj on June 10, 2009, 2:27 GMT

    I think it was a deliberate ploy of Pakistan to lose against England, so that they can end up in a easy group. I think many of you did not think that.

  • Muhammad Ammad Javed on June 10, 2009, 2:10 GMT

    Finally Pakistani fans got something to cheer about and i hope it eill continue for thr rest of the this event also InshaAllah..................................................

  • Umair Imtiaz on June 10, 2009, 1:32 GMT

    My all prays are with Pakistani team. Inshallaha O Tala , we will take the cup Home. Though alot of improvements are needed in all areas,starting from PCB Management. Everyday you hear, somebody is leaving or resigned or freaking not happy with one another. For God sake, PCB sort your self out before you get kicked out by Zardari sahib ..:).I mean common man, we are blessed with so much talent and we are just unable to manage the talent. PCB Chairman should not be a cricketer, instead a professional who know how to run a cricket board. Regarding the team performance, we need to get our top players back in the side i.e Yousuf, Razzaq , Imran nazir.. and also akhtar if he recovers from injuries.Don't underestimate the current team as well, they are a very talented players if they perform up to the mark. So lets hope in the next match atleast, they field well and take all the catches, I really want to see Afridi getting his focus back to batting .

  • Nauman on June 10, 2009, 1:24 GMT

    Safe from the humiliation for now.Tough luck to the Dutch,with more exposure they will be more competitive soon,Good luck to them. Butt needs to be rested,it'll do him good to get pressure off,sit out,rethink his approach & regain fitness and form.Fawad was wasted again,we must use him as opener.Afridi/Tanvir must be used as pinch hitters,in 20-over game a 20 ball blitz by them can make big difference.Bowling overall was good,but Fawad was overlooked again.He should have been given a couple of overs to get some match practice,specially after we were in a commanding position.I think Butt should be replaced with Arafat,who is as good a batsman as Butt in current form.Besides he gives the bowling more variety and flexibility.Hope we win against Ireland,and then take care of business against atleast one of SL or NZ,we can make make it to semis.Most importantly,I m glad that the team showed attitude & desire.They showed respect for the game,that'll earn them and the nation respect.Good Luck

  • Junaid on June 10, 2009, 1:06 GMT

    Well played 3 As Akmal, Afridi and Ajmal. I think the good thing is that Pakistan seems to be in a better group in super 8 as they have to face NZ, SL and Ireland. Pakistan can definitley beat Ireland if they play like today's match. NZ is a good side but Pakistan have always performed well against them so our spinners can do the trick if batsman can make approx 160 runs. Beating SL will be tough but not impossible. So there seems to be a hope to qualify for the semis. There is no point of critisizing these 14 players as this is what we got for 20/20 world cup. YK needs to be innovative in batting order, bowling changes and field placing. Good teams will now come with a plan against Afridi and Ajmal so we should ready with plan b as well.

  • MOHAMED on June 10, 2009, 0:30 GMT

    ALL 6 LETTERS, STAY IN THE BELOW AND WILL WIN THE CUP IF CONSISTENCY FOLLOWED AND MENTALLY PREPARED

    AFRIDI SALMAN KAMRAN MISBAH YOUNIS SOHAIB SOHAIL

  • Mohamed on June 10, 2009, 0:26 GMT

    Afridi Salman Kamran Misbah Younis Malik

    The perfect batting order, and a SPECIAL INSTRUCTION TO AFRIDI TO NOT TO WORRY ABOUT HE IS GETTING OUT AND FEEL FREE TO PLAY HIS NATURAL GAME. SEE IF AFRIDI PLAYS A NATURAL GAME, CERTAINLY PAKISTAN WILL STAY ON TOP. IT SEEMS HE IS SICK OF RECEIVING TOO MANY SUGGESTIONS AND PRESSSURES AT A WRONG BATTTING ORDER, PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE TO PCB AND YOU. SAY "CONSISTENCY" AT ALL MEANS/LEVELS. Tanvir

  • Saf Usman on June 10, 2009, 0:17 GMT

    Well Done Pakistan and I am glad that we are in Super 8s. I think it was a right decision to send Malik at number 3 and should keep the same team just send Misbah at number 4 and Younis at 5. The bowling was brilliant today and it will be our main strength against New Zealand, Ireland and Srilanka. We still definitely need to improve our fielding specially catching and ground fielding. We still need to score more runs in powerplay overs and at the same time keep wickets in hand for the final onslaght. I still think Salman Butt is the right choice for opening slot all he needs to be do it rotate strike after hitting boundaries. This is true for all the batsmen in the side. Lets hope that Inshallah Pakistan can do really well in the next round and progress to semis. One step at a time boys

  • Jawad on June 10, 2009, 0:07 GMT

    We should be thankful that we won but shouldn't be fooled as we beat a cricket minnows who incidentally beat England. Pakistan team lacks hunger to win and the chemistry to seize close games.

    I don't think Pakistan has the urge and fighting spirit to beat India, SL, SA or for that matter even WI and NZ not to say that they can't beat them. I would be happy if they progress to Semi Final, Final and even win the cup but would still not be confident that the team has a winning chemistry. Just my two cents...

  • sl on June 10, 2009, 0:02 GMT

    Ahmad---I saw you post about Maliks selection in the side, it is primarily as Batsman/fielder. Yes fielder, this is due to the fact that a good fielder is very rare in Pakistan cricket. The selection of Alam aswell was for this reason, so correct me if I am wrong but i fail to see how Alam covered for Maliks "allround abilities" as neither did he bat nor did he bowl. As for Maliks role, it is not as a slogger, that is clear to see as for most of the innings he knocked it around. You got your assessment of Younus and Misbah as anchors wrong, the job of both are big hitters. Malik is given the role of the anchor, and look he did that job well. As for Pakistan losing momentum in middle overs, this is Younus Khans tactic of conserving wickets for a late onslaught(coach inti Alam belives different), so you can hadly blame Malik for not going fast as this was the Younus's game plan. Also Malik is a part time bowler, but he is definitely in the team as an anchor (hence number 3).

  • ali naqvi on June 9, 2009, 23:41 GMT

    congarates Pakistan, but i do have some concerns about younis captaincy, Misbah should be 1 down.We have to take gamble by shiting Afridi to top orders.

  • Mohammad Masroor on June 9, 2009, 23:18 GMT

    I think we got very excited if Pakistan wins. But we must remember this win is against a team where no single player is professional cricketer. So dont be so excited yet :)

    What Pakistani team to learn that how they can be more professional. They should take every game as a must win game and give their 100%. Dropping easy catches, misfields should be a NO NO. There got to be some schoulding for such a behavior. repeating same behavior should have consequences and could be resulted in sitting for atleast one game. Unless they have established a strict policies for such behavior, these team always be very unpredictable.

  • moazam on June 9, 2009, 22:58 GMT

    Yesterday our dreams were shattered , our hopes dying !! we didnt know wat waz coming but it looked scary to think abt our defeat and going out of the tournament like we did in 2007...but our super eight assured just froget wat happend ...just think abt wat is to come .

  • Usman on June 9, 2009, 22:56 GMT

    I don't understand how you, Mr. Abbasi can have the audacity to write after your yesterday's column. After blasting the team and management after just one bad game you had banished pak cricket forever. And now you are praising them and giving 'advice' on how to improve further. It is because of authors like you that Pak cricket and its fans are laughed at the world over. Grow up!!

  • Marlo on June 9, 2009, 22:40 GMT

    Win OR lose, but notice; even all of the top order contributed, they could'nt reach 200. Why? because Malik and younis slow it down. Misbah was still not moved up the order. Very easy and simple catches are still being dropped. Anyway good luck in super 8

  • Usman on June 9, 2009, 22:37 GMT

    Rigthly said Osman....But I was amazed to see the number of catches they dropped... if anyone of it was for a player of the likes of Sehwag, Yuvraj, Gayle, Smith.... they would had definitely lost this match as well. And I cant understand why the hell the paki camp cant understand that Malik and Younis should not be at the crease at the same time.... Atleast there should be one player at the crease who can hit boundaries with ease... like Misbah or Akmal or Afridi... If Pakistan needs to progress further they need to start taking catches. Let Kamran stick to opening what ever happens.... the first 6 overs are where teams win and loose matches.... Let Fawad Alam bat at #4 if you want to keep Misbah for the last 6 or 8 overs....but please not Malik. And why not give Alam the bowling.... He is another very good option in Pak team infact when Malik was pounded for runs why not give Alam a call... This team has the talent to go all the way, the only thing is to take the game seriously

  • BILAL on June 9, 2009, 22:37 GMT

    Chokkashokka i think this is not the time to criticize unless you are a stinking indian. Netherland is surely not a top cricketing nation but from what i have watched of them against england, i can assure they will rise and be amongst the top looking at their potential. In case you suffer from selective amnesia pakistan team has suffered the most and missed out on international cricket for past 12-18 months with no fault of it's own. Yes their are problems but the root cause is PCB, the sooner the cleaning job of overhauling PCB starts the better for pakistan cricket for future.

    Coming back to today's match, it sure was a great relief for us pakistanis to win by more then the required margin to enter in super eights stage. I can't understand how ahmad shahzad and salman butt were selected for the T20 format but we know as nation that they don't belong here. What's wrong with shoaib malik ?..he needs to pick his form up cause the way he batted again today raises doubt about his form.

  • Shahid on June 9, 2009, 22:35 GMT

    Bowlers bowled much better, and Kamran Akmal scored. Thats the whole story. Butt again dropped a sitter and malik did the same. Younes and Malik are too slow in batting. At one stage there was no boundry for 23 balls and we scored at rate of 5 or 6. Now younis may claim that his strike rate tells differently but then ask him what if you were gone before those two sixes at the end. Malik is not firing and it concerns me, now just take those 2 ealy fours of his bat and see how was he for rest of the balls. These two just slow it down for at least 4 overs in every match. MISBAH should be shifted up the order and otherwise do not change the 11. Fawad Alam should be bowling more than Shoaib.

  • BILAL on June 9, 2009, 22:28 GMT

    Congratulations to pakistan team and boy it is some relief for us pakistanis !. I would have hated to see a repeat of ICC 2007 world cup exit in the first round when we lost to minnow ireland. The victory is refreshing and our spirits have be revitalised cause the loss against england and the warm up twin losses against south africa and india hurt us a lot. I was expecting pakistan to score past 200 but they got 175. Our batters are still not at their best but are surely coming out of the rusty web. Salman butt needs to be dropped he is unfit for this format plus his running between the wickets and fielding is pathetic. He's a fine player and decent opener for one dayers and test cricket but T20 is not made for butt.

    It's tragic nasir jamshed due to injury and imran nazir, rana and Abdul razzak due to late release from ICL contracts missed out on being selected. We need to improve on our fielding and batting needs to improve by great leaps and bounds.

  • Sohaib on June 9, 2009, 22:27 GMT

    Yunis said that Arafat is injured. Does that mean Pakistan can call someone like Razzaq or Rana to replace him in the squad. Because I feel Pakistan need one more big player.

  • wanderer on June 9, 2009, 22:23 GMT

    Cornered tigers they came out fighting. Like the scholar warrior Sun Tzu once said, "Never press a desperate enemy." Well if you do and they fight like tigers, you'll find your nations bankrupt and your armies in disarray.

    Take note India in particular. What goes around comes around.

  • ali naqvi on June 9, 2009, 22:10 GMT

    congarates Pakistan, but i do have some concerns about younis captaincy, Misbah should be 1 down.We have to take gamble by shiting Afridi to top orders.

  • wanderer on June 9, 2009, 22:10 GMT

    As another poster pointed out, joyous in defeat and humble in victory. The title of this blog post angers me very much. I ask that you change it, because it's far too harsh and unfair to the Dutch who put up a fantastic campaign and really kick started the tournament.

  • Hamza on June 9, 2009, 21:57 GMT

    I'm very happy that pakistan qualify for super 8. Pakistan was very good with the Bat & the bowl But they still need to improve their feilding. Pakistan's feilding was beter than Ist match. today sohail tanveer bowl really well how ever he did not pick any wicket, but he just gave 13 runs in 3 overs but i'm little worry about his fitness. Pakistan should open batting with Kamran Akmal & Ahmed Shehzad and for super 8 they need to make a good opening bowling attack.

  • Assad on June 9, 2009, 21:55 GMT

    The Pakistan team's game is all about momentum..They needed this victory to give them the self-belief and the winning feeling again....The Netherlands were not push-overs, they bowled quite superbly in the middle overs....beating them hopefully should give Pakistan the requisite confidence to excel in this format that is so suited to Pakistan's short attention span, carefree approach to cricket.. That is why it was so disappointing to watch them against England, one just felt that they playing within themselves because of the fear of losing...That is not the Pakistani style....They need to make sure that if they go down, they go down swinging and not nudging and nurdling balls to the slips....Afridi is still being wasted down the order. I fail to understand what is the logic of having him languishing down at number eight...He is not a magician..He needs to get in there early, get his eye in and then slog. That's what he did against Australia recently and he got some decent runs there.

  • aziz on June 9, 2009, 21:55 GMT

    You guys are celebrating as if you have beaten Australia! Guys calm down, this win has only prolonged Pakistani fan's agony. This team belongs in the super 8's as much as Ireland does.

  • Hafiz Tajdar on June 9, 2009, 21:42 GMT

    Well I believe Pakistan are very lucky to have such an important match against a minnow like Netherland unlike some other established side like England. The win for Netherland against England was more because of the casual cricketing display by England them selves. however Pakistan should and must make the most of this opportunity available to them and must enter the semis and then the finals and must formulate a proper strategy that would enable them to pass through this difficult route. Long Live Pakistan.

  • chokkashokka on June 9, 2009, 21:40 GMT

    Kudos to Pakistan team - very well played indeed! Celebrations should be in store - perhaps a reward from the PCB - afterall they beat the Netherlands!! What a bunch of jokers - every news that has come out of the Pakistan camp for as long as I can remember, makes them a laughing stock! The comedians must be sending the Pakistan team a royalty! The Younis Khan captancy issue, accepting one dat to resigning the other, Razzak eating getting sick on a spinach diet, shoiab and asif taking nandrolone and then getting reiterated, the latest shoaib genital warts (this has to take the cake) and now this having fun bs - what a bunch of clowns. Ignorance is a bliss.

  • Mike on June 9, 2009, 21:34 GMT

    Very glad to see Pakistan qualify and in the better half of the draw at that. Pakistan normally beat NZ. That should do it given Ireland should (yes, I know) be a given. Pak v WI and SA v SL in the semis is my prediction. Good luck boys!

  • Arif on June 9, 2009, 21:23 GMT

    Afridi in Pakistan team is like a Symonds in Australian team (cruicial for team balance). I always believed on Afridi bowling and thats why never worried about his current rusty batting form as to me he is more bowling allrounder but good to see him geting some confidence in batting as well when hit 6 to Nannes.

    I am stil keen to see Afridi playing in top order as I think that YK is not using him appropriately in batting. So please sebd him at 3 or 4 position and give him some tme to score and even though he is not doing much at lower order so why not giving him a chance. One more thing that in my opinion Misbah should come before Malik as he is much better striker compare to him. Dont have much hope with Salman But as I always wanted to see Imran Nazir in this position as he is much better T20 batsman and fielder as well. Little bit worry about Sohail fitness but want to congratulate him as despite his fitness he bowled briliant for his team ....

    Go Pakistan Go!!!!!

  • kashif on June 9, 2009, 21:23 GMT

    Congratulations to Pakistan for winning against Netherlands, Im afraid its these new teams that Pakistan can beat. We all have seen how they perform against stronger teams.

  • Huge Fan on June 9, 2009, 21:19 GMT

    I agree with the article and caution Pakistan not to take this win as they have beaten the strongest team in 20/20.

  • Zakir Khan on June 9, 2009, 20:53 GMT

    its a refreshing win for Pakistan after a terrible start.I am sure Pakistan cricket fans will be feeling somewhat relieved that we qualified for the super eight.but i feel Pakistan batting line up still needs to improve as i believe they should have gone and scored in the region of 190-200 against a weak & inexperienced Dutch bowling attack.it was once again the Pak bowling attack that saved the day for us. it will be extremely hard for the batters to score heavely against stronger oppositions in the super8 if they didn't come up with some sound strategy.batters need to take more responsibility.

  • amjad Ali on June 9, 2009, 20:50 GMT

    im not shocked to read your article ( with no praise worthy words compared to your articles full of criticism) after this match. first of all i would really like u to eat ur words for what you wrote in your previous articles. criticism is always easy and i do admit that pakistan were slopy the other day but this is what cricket is all about. you do have good days and then bad days and i hope pakistan cricket team will make it a habbit to perform well consistantly inshallah. as for the rest Congratulations to the team and the captan who stood firm and led from the front with his batting and then bolwing changes and ofcourse the field placing.

  • SS on June 9, 2009, 20:49 GMT

    still no hope for pakistan.. they seem a disorganized and disoriented team.. they lack a positive winning attitude

  • Jude on June 9, 2009, 20:47 GMT

    One win against Holland. We should be jumping in joy.

  • Bulanda ladi on June 9, 2009, 20:42 GMT

    Sahid Afridi should open and Misbah on number 3

  • Bilal on June 9, 2009, 20:40 GMT

    well they were good but you can t judge their performance by this victory..we have to wait and see how they play against Srilanka and Newzealand

  • SADYKHOV on June 9, 2009, 20:37 GMT

    pakistan team is an unpredictable child...a best friend or worst enemy for the fans hope on any given day..good luck for the rest of the cup!

  • Khurram on June 9, 2009, 20:36 GMT

    where are all the people who criticised pakistan over their loss against england? no more comments?

    congrats pakistan and plssss keep up the good work

  • shiraz on June 9, 2009, 20:32 GMT

    Pakistan did good..but the contest is far from over...they need to keep working hard and stop the unprofessional behaviour and experimentation. hopefully this will not be the end of the fighting spirit that they have but fail to launch on so many vital hours.

  • Anjum on June 9, 2009, 20:20 GMT

    Thanks Almighty.. with all the fears of lose and rain. Pakistan played well and managed to get theirself in super-eight. I think, Pakistan needs to improve alot if they think they have got any chance in tournament. Their batting i dont know. why misbah still late. misbah should be up, before shoaib malik. one point younas and shoaib were too slow in middle that is worrying competing with bigger teams. that is the best combination for Pakistan. though I think butt can still be replaced by sahzaib or shezad. it is good to see fawad alam got a game. He is good player. he should be regularly part of pakistan combination... again good performance from Pakistan, but still needs to improve in all departments and be consistent.. Good luck to Pakistan.

  • Suliman on June 9, 2009, 20:20 GMT

    Afridi and Ajmal completely spun a web around the batsmen today and led us to the next round. But the fact remains that we cannot get the basics right. Three more catches were dropped today and against better opposition that would prove crucial. We won today. Let's enjoy it but there are some spots of bother in the team. Salman Butt should not be in the team on Friday. I would rather see one the two youngsters get a chance.

  • Nusrat Hussain on June 9, 2009, 20:20 GMT

    Where are you all yeaterday's angry people. Its' Ok to get your anger out-- Now is the time to celebrate and have fun. Younis Khan; if you think you can have fun alone you are mistaken-- your fun alone carries the huge price of BS from rest of the country. I am sure you can have lot of FUN now as we are also having it. Well done Boys-enjoy--But come prepared to play the game again and don't even think of having fun in the game-- that should come later. Let us now party together. Good Luck.

  • Anything but Butt! on June 9, 2009, 20:18 GMT

    Even with Pakistan winning, I want to highlight the lack of commitment from Salman Butt. His dropped catch, after his 'i don't give a damn' batting, broke the camels back for me. He should be dropped for the rest of the tourney.I guess everything is fair when you win, however I think Kamran should continue to highlight where Pakistan missed the plot....their fielding! I just cannot imagine where Pakistan would be if they held the 3 catches and improved their margin of victory by , lets say, 13 runs (I believe they would end up ahead of England)

  • Umair on June 9, 2009, 20:17 GMT

    Agreed.Pakistan had to show some character today which they did.Hope they will try to keep up with the current form but Inconsistency and unpredictability is what Pakistan Cricket Team is used to deliveR.You never know what coming from them.So its Sometimes difficult to trust them lol But i hope that they put up a good show. Fingers Crossed!

  • Ejaz Siddiqui on June 9, 2009, 20:11 GMT

    Congrats Pakistan, a very good bowling performance.

    We tend to overlook our mistakes when we win but still there are lot of things need to be improved.

    1- Attitude Issue We knew that we need a big score, but it was not look that players are trying to make a big score. e.g. There was only one 4 in 39 balls (over 8.5 -15.1). Had there been a good team, they might have found 150 a very small total.

    > T20 is a fun if you take it seriously. We as a nation do need victory in this tournament as it is one of the very things where we may get good news.

    2- New Ideas There should be new thinking and ideas for modern cricket. We are still having the Coach and Manager of Adam and Eve's era.

  • Saad on June 9, 2009, 20:09 GMT

    Salman Butt(er fingers) needs to get his act right! This dude seriously needs to learn the otherwise basic art of ball catching. Dont really wanna see him spilling dollys of the likes of dhoni or gibbs or jaysuria in the super 8's.

  • nash on June 9, 2009, 19:57 GMT

    Relieved to see Pakistan reaching the supereight round. The only way, now, Pakistan can reach semis is from outside help.I mean, a weaker team thrashing a stronger team, ruining stronger team's net run rate and thus indirectly helping Pakistan to go through the semis. It didn't rain today inspite of some grim forecasts, so even in this success to reach supereight, there is an outside help.

  • Ahmad G on June 9, 2009, 19:53 GMT

    You have to give it to the absolute committed fans of Pakkistan cricket ... I mean, it has to be ... afterall the nation prayed and the clouds stayed away :)

    On a serious note, there were many dropped catches, fielding slips and as kamran puts it batting lacked urgency or seriousness at one point as well ...

    We have been lucky today, fans can do only as much, god can't answer all prayers ... so players too have got to do some here!

    I think most important is getting their heads right ... they are here playing a world cup, and there are more fans behind them than any other team in the competition (expect India perhaps, for their population) ... yes T20 is fun, but as you say Kamran, it's more fun in winning ... just ask us, the fans ...

    Then let's have some!

  • Atif on June 9, 2009, 19:52 GMT

    A big improvement, mainly because they picked a better team - stick with this combination.. tighter fielding and a bit more urgency in the batting (they had wickets in hand)..then the results will come...if they improve every game then who knows..!!!

  • Asif on June 9, 2009, 19:52 GMT

    Yes,It's great performace from pak.they did excatly what was scripted before the tournament.but there is few concern about our new ball bowling and specialy the batting,shoib malik is not playing to his potential,he is been very slow in this tournament,unkown reason,he played very badly agaisnt england and today he started well but then did show any urgency,i think Misbah should bat at number 2 3,he is player who can excute his innings much better way then other batsmen, but todays performce was good, hope they will improve there feilding to

  • Eddy on June 9, 2009, 19:50 GMT

    Though Butt is still a liablity, there is no other choice in the selected side who can replace him, unless someone comes from outside(Nazir) , not sure if thats allowed. Anyway, it feels strange, as perhaps some pakis may feel that Pak has beaten Australia or South Africa, so you are absolutely correct, this win against a non-cricket playing nation is just another opportunity for Pakistan to play another game in the competition and thats how it should be taken. Pakistan cannot bask in the glory of beating Holland for too long, now the thoughts should be, how can pakistan beat formidable sides like New Zealand and Srilanka, oh yes, I am not counting out the dreadful Irish. Anyway, its three more days until pak plays Srilanka, so we can enjoy competition in peace. Oh yes, pretty please send Arafat and Shahzad back home, I am sure a lot of Pakis will be willing to gather funds for their tickets back home. If still possible, get Razzaq, Nazir and Rana, otherwise, until next time

  • Rathore on June 9, 2009, 19:49 GMT

    they need to improve fielding...

  • Furqan on June 9, 2009, 19:46 GMT

    Today Pakistan team was definately a diferent out fit. Bowling was near at its best and Batting was more than ok. Today the combination used by pakistan was same what they used in 2007 world cup. Almost the same batting order was used and bowling changes were also similar. It was back to the basics actually. To be good captain younis khan need not be doing things in too much more innovative manner. Sometimes u need to go back to basics and that was what they did today.

  • Md. Mohibul Hasan (piplu) on June 9, 2009, 19:46 GMT

    Again Afridi proved himself as a potential player of Pakistan team. No doubt that he is a real wining player.

  • Mansoor Huda on June 9, 2009, 19:35 GMT

    I sometimes wonder if Afridi is the only player that shows up for Team Practice sessions? The other players performances are so miserable that I am actually missing Shoaib Akhtar. I wonder if Salman Butt, Sohail Tanvir, Shoaib Malik took very long vacations last year? Lets not forget Saeed Ajmal started the collapse, and bowled beautifully, and also Kamran Akmal, our three key players, and of course Misbah. I have high hopes for Umar Gul and maybe Fawad Alam?

  • chand on June 9, 2009, 19:34 GMT

    That's just dandy.tweentyfour hours ago i was reading your blog slagging off all and sundry.Afridi's bowling was a liability, younis's captaincy was a joke.A great victory over Netherlands and all is forgiven.GREAT!!!

  • kaiser Mukhtar on June 9, 2009, 19:27 GMT

    Only one victory in 4 contests is not satisfying but more satisfactory factor is that Pakistan is still in contention. A win against Netherlands doesn't reflect the true strength of Pakistan side . It will matter most when they will defeat some stronger side in the tournament. Now what we need is a show of solidarity and unity of players putting aside the differences of opinion and past mistakes. We need to be together as a nation and win against the strongest and the most prudent of the lot and come out victorious to bring forward our case against the discrimonatory behavior of the people in charge of world cricketing fraternity. Press ahead with the intent so that they could not ignore the Pakistan team in Future Tour Program of ICC. May Allah help our country to come out of the crisis of terrorism. Amen. So that we could once again become a proud nation and a sporting nation too.

  • jb on June 9, 2009, 19:26 GMT

    In my opinion, Pakistan has benefited from their below par performance in the first round because they are now placed in a slightly easier group(what does Mr Kamran and everyone else think about that? ) in the second round and the team they played against Holland seemed very balanced because Pakistan had variety in bowling and depth in batting but they need to dramatically improve their catching if they want to get to the semis and beyond. Finally, there is nothing more 'fun' than winning.

  • Fahad Majeed on June 9, 2009, 19:25 GMT

    Pakistan should take revenge now from ireland and should win either against SL or NZ to reach Semis. I hope Misbah bats at Number 3 before Shoaib and Younis. He is by far the best 20/20 batsman in Pakistani team.

  • nadeem on June 9, 2009, 19:23 GMT

    Finally, 'Pakistan discovered that winning is more fun than losing'. Mr. Captain should understand this. He is representing 160 million people on the field and must need to understand that the entire nation wants fun while looking their men winning or at least showing the fighting spirit. He needs to be clear in his mind that t20 is not comedy theatre and our players are not comedians. Go out with winning approach, then the entire nation will back you. Thats our enjoyment. Please dont play with emotions any longer.

  • Junaid Asghar on June 9, 2009, 19:20 GMT

    Just 20 hours ago Mr. Abbassi was saying "On the bowling front, Shahid Afridi’s consistency has vanished, a handicap to Pakistan in the middle overs. In addition, Yasir Arafat looks a poor choice to open the bowling, often pitching too full and allowing the batsman to clear the infield.

    Pakistan’s traditional strength has been its bowling, a necessity because of batting and fielding frailties, but the current bowling line-up has struggled to exert any control over any opposition.

    Netherlands are inexperienced but confident enough to take on the bigger teams, as they showed against England." and now this heap of praise.

  • Rafi on June 9, 2009, 19:17 GMT

    Stunning victory for Pakistan, a good come back but just they have to think to give more and more bowls to their hard strikers, why tehy don't open with Afridi while he is simpky giving away his wicket in da depth let him open and who knows if it is his day. Such decisions and steps whic Younis khan have to take if tehy wana b The champions Inshallah

  • jilani on June 9, 2009, 19:14 GMT

    Phew, finally, now all we have to do is to beat the like of SA, NewZealand, India, Srilanka and WestIndies.

    Are we up for the task??? I am still not sure, but let us see.

    The trick will be to play to our strenghts, play the experience (Shahzad and Shahzaib are too young still) however if we do not field well then what is the point of denying players like Yousuf a shot at T20. He is not any worse than Salman and others.

    Play Tanvir in English conditions.

    If they well, it is a big deal given that Pakistan does not have Asif, Imran N., Rana, Razzaq, Farhat etc.

    -jilani

  • Feziz on June 9, 2009, 19:13 GMT

    Younis Khan must realise that T20 is not about pinching 6 singles every over, specially when you are only two wickets down and 10 or 12 overs gone already. You just can't leave all the big hitting till the last 2 or 3 overs. Infact, Pakistan batsmen should try to take maximum advantage of the middle overs, when the opposing team introduces their 4th and 5th bowlers. I think Pakistan have been a bit worried about losing too many wickets before the death overs, because they have been playing with 4 specialist bowlers, and don't bat deep like some of the other teams. But playing 4 bowlers is the right strategy for Pakistan. All they need (as Kamran Abbasi) wrote is a bit of daring and urgency in the middle overs.

  • khanzz on June 9, 2009, 19:13 GMT

    pakıstan team has clıcked thıs tıme,pak should have someone at the top to overcome slow runrate they use to mantaın ın mıddle overs.ın battıng afridı ıs useless at the end.ıt doesnt matter ıf he bats or not.pakıstanıs are usıng hım as a bowler.then why not to gıve hım chance at the top.mısbah can save matches at the end,but he cant hıt untıl he ıs set to play.he need some balls to get hıs eye ın.so he should be at no 4.

  • fahad khan on June 9, 2009, 19:12 GMT

    Finally something went our way which includes the weather. It was a pleasant surprise that rain didn't intervene even when there was a 90% chance of showers. Glad to see Akmal keeping well behind the stumps and hopefully he will continue to improve as the tournament will progress. Batting still need more improvement as it as was pretty evident that Pakistan struggled to socre runs quickly in the middle overs. The bowling combination looks much better however I think Younis should be very careful while bowling with Malik. There was a moment when Netherland tried to go after Malik and for a vert brief moment I thought this is going to ease some pressure. Against stronger opposition Malik's bowling could backfire. AS far as Gul goes, Younis should introduce him after the 10th unless his bowling is critically needed in the first 10. 4 overs with a sligtly older ball can do wonders for Gul and Pakistan.

  • Rafique Banday on June 9, 2009, 19:09 GMT

    True Agree with the post the more cricket is played the better they will feel about themselves. It certainly holds trues that the situations in Pakistan generally, the PCB mismanagement, the less cricket and the poor performance has had a terrible effect on Pakistan Crcket. But, what is also sad is the attitude of ICC & some powerfull ICC members, the media at large and the saddest of all THE SENIOR PAKISTAN CRICKETING FRATERNITY (SENIOR PLAYERS)who instead of the fear of shame and trying to contribute by acting as brand ambassodors of Pakistan cricket find more pride in scoring points on vcarious channels by laughing at the miseries.... It truly is shameful...Pakistan is almost been edged to th elevel that some people start expelling it from the cricket playing nations. ITS NOT ONLy THE PCB & TEAM IT SHOULD BE EVERY PAKISTAN CRICKET LOVERS AIM TO PORTRAY A BETTER IMAGE....

  • Ahmad on June 9, 2009, 19:08 GMT

    Please give me ONE good reason why Malik gets picked to play for Pakistan. Don't go for how many he made, check the number of balls he uses. Its not enough in T20s when you are the one being relied on to score quickly while Misbah & Younis are there to anchor the innings. Malik as a batsman just doesn't make the cut because he is too scared of getting out. He isn't the Malik of old. His 20s or 30s mean little when the team scores slower because of him.

    He can't have been picked as a bowler, he hardly bowls a decent ball. He is expensive. Younis balls him religiously every game but has he come good? He balls one over or two and to be honest the regular bowlers do better than his one over so why bother? Today we had Fawad playing, why was the young opener dropped and not Malik? Fawad was actually covering for Malik's lack of all-round abilities. Honestly, Malik's fielding alone wont get him into any other side, why does Pakistan bother? Is it politics? Do answer please.

  • saif on June 9, 2009, 19:08 GMT

    There fielding still needs to improve as the number of catches they dropped today was unacceptable. I hope they improve in their catching as 'catches win matches'.

  • Yousef Masud on June 9, 2009, 19:07 GMT

    No doubt a great improvement over the previous match. They should improve their fielding, catching in particular, and power hitting!

  • Asif on June 9, 2009, 19:07 GMT

    Love the euphemism in the title. Couldnt have been more aptly put.

  • bluesan on June 9, 2009, 19:02 GMT

    common guys start blaming India, BCCI & West for..well there must be something to blame!!

  • Sharjeel Ahmad on June 9, 2009, 18:52 GMT

    I think we should view this win with caution. Netherlands may have made a very spirited effort but the big test for Pakistanis will be when they face the Test playing nations. Their fielding leaves much to be desired and cannot be blamed on lack of practice alone.

    As far as batting is concerned, Fawad Alam should be given a chance to bat and Misbah-ul-Haq should be promoted up the order. Let Afridi come as opener along with Kamran Akmal. Maybe that will help him get out of this woeful run of batting form.

    Wish we had some of the ICL players in the team!

  • ahrash on June 9, 2009, 18:52 GMT

    We played cicket today - even with dropping 3 catches and not hitting nearly enough boundaries Afridi and Ajmal got us through.

    I wish Younis would stop saying 170-180 is par - we must add 20-30 runs to make up for our fielding so Younis:

    200 IS PAR FOR PAKISTAN !

    Another point is the bad english displayed in the aftermatch interviews - if you look at Dhoni and Sangakarra, both speak well and can fully articulate their thoughts so that they are not misunderstood/misquoted. Why can't Pakistan either hire a translator or improve their English speaking so that they do not look so foolish when speaking in English, after all the PCB can afford to hire a Hypnotist...

  • Basit on June 9, 2009, 18:51 GMT

    Its a huge relief.I am not sure if we will qualify for semi final or not but atleast we are not knocked out in first round.Looking at postive side Sohail tanveer looks back in form and now bowling looks complete its our batting order and fielding which needs to be sorted out.There is no way that out of form Shoaib Malik and Younas Khan bat together.They need to send one big hitter between them .and please Kamran bhai can you write something about BUTT sahib who drop at least one catch in every match. Well Its a time to take some revenge from Ireland. Get ready Irland Pakistan is back..

  • adeel rauf on June 9, 2009, 18:50 GMT

    KUDOS FOR THE PAKISTANIS. THEY outplayed the dutch convincingly enough to get through to the next round , it was aget out of jail win but thats what it counts in t20...the most imp thing out of this game other than the win i believe is that i saw a light at the end of the tunnel, for 6 months i ve been waiting, praying for a bowler that mite steamroll through the domestic circuit purely on merit and become so good that he will shine on the world stage to such an extent that a whizz of brilliance just like aaqib in 88, waqar in 89 or wasim in 84 or asif 's aussie tour of 2004 ... its too early to say he has shined enough, but the writing is on the wall, ENTER THE T20 WCUP like sohail tanvir in 2007 , a 17 year old from gujjar khan explodes on the scene via UBL. His name is MOHAMMAD AAMIR and he finally gives the solution we needed so badly as an opening bowler. WE can finally get rid of SHOAIB forever. good riddance AKHTAR , ur GAME's IS OVER !!!

  • bhushan on June 9, 2009, 18:48 GMT

    well accolades to Pakistan,, although they deter thier exit ,but merely beating an associate side should not be taken as a big affair .Their needs to be some change in the mindset when they are up against the worlds best team.Why shouldn't they risk by sending afridi as an opener??Because lower down the order he is the worst batsman among bowlers.And they should give more chances to Fawad alam. Hope they will play good in super eight.

  • Qasim Ali on June 9, 2009, 18:47 GMT

    Absolute great win, but problem is that Pakistan have lack of consistency. Everyone knows that they play one match with a great victory but come down in next game with a very poor performance. But I hope they'll do best in next games. In today's match, one thing is pretty anxious for Pakistan which is the injury of Sohail Tanvir, he is the great bowler of T20. Now Pakistan have to prepare for the tense Super8 against Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Ireland, and they must have to win against Ireland in this WC.

  • Rognarke on June 9, 2009, 18:46 GMT

    Great team effort and finally it's good to see a spirited Pakistani team back in their winning form. Let's hope they carry the same momentum in the tournament.

  • azeem on June 9, 2009, 18:46 GMT

    I can finally have a good night sleep knowing that another 2007 World Cup Pakistani upset was stopped in its tracks. I certainly agree with the idea that even though Pakistan seemed under cooked, the longer they stay in the tournament, the more dangerous they are. So lets get the Biryanis cooking because the Pakistani have atleast one more week of unpredictability to display!

  • taimoor on June 9, 2009, 18:44 GMT

    very good performance by pakistan 2day ...they deserved the win ...but still few things need to be improved on ... 1.fielding !!! pathetic as always !!! 2.better use of the powerplay overs 3.better batting position of misbah ul haq ..i feel he should be higher because he is a good player of spin and can up the scoring rate in the middle overs ... INSHALLAH Pakistan will reach the semis and then lift the cup !! PAKISTAN ZINDABAD !!!!

  • Ahmed Raza Shah on June 9, 2009, 18:43 GMT

    Finally! something to cheer about !

  • umar Rashid on June 9, 2009, 18:43 GMT

    We live to fight another day but "do we live to get umiliated on another day" hope not lets back the boys, to pakistan team show some heart afyer all we are Pakistani

    Umar

  • Noor on June 9, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    I found Younis Khan's batting order strategy baffling to say the least... afridi and maybe Tanvir should have been sent up the order considering that a left arm orthodox 'spinner' was tying the batsmen down ... the team seemed to be playing a 50 over match ... Younis needs to be far more agile with his decision making on the batting order front for Pakistan to progress further in the tournament.

  • bill on June 9, 2009, 18:35 GMT

    Paki power is back with a Bang Dude!!

  • Ahmed on June 9, 2009, 18:32 GMT

    At last Pakistani fans have something to cheer, thanks to a team effort. I also wish that the same stubbened approach of placing Yasir Arafat is not regained. Well done Team Pakistan. Well done Afridi.

  • Arif Hussain on June 9, 2009, 18:32 GMT

    Let this not go to our heads... There are still many opportunities as you say, they need to be worked on.

    Salman Butt needs to go... he has united the nation on this...

    Malik should not come before Misbah... his nudging will cost us when we need it. Let him come when we have lost 4 wickets and steady the ship.

    Shahzaib can be tried... who knows.

    Younis batted well today. But Malik cannot play over 4.5 overs and score less than 30... that will take the edge out of a Pakistan total.

    It is about time that the PCB realize that Salman Butt is not fit for this form of the game.

  • wanderer on June 9, 2009, 18:31 GMT

    Title's a bit harsh isn't it. They're an associate country, not used to top quality spin bowling. It happens.

  • Die hard paki fan on June 9, 2009, 18:30 GMT

    Bowlers did a fantastic job bt batting stil remains a worry n da bating order as well shahzaib shud b openin wit kamran followed by afridi or tanveer butt shud b dropped without a second thought n malik shudnt b given a bowl at all n tanvir n gul shud b used wisely other dan dat things r lookin good Go pakistan we want a trophy

  • Irfan Rizvi on June 9, 2009, 18:29 GMT

    Pakistan need to learn the fighting spirit and efforts in the field from Netherlands, Orange may not be the color of day today but they should be allowed to play more with the bigger league there is talent out there. Well though I am very happy that Pakistan has progressed but one shouldnt be reading too much in this victory. anyways best of luck paki team

  • shahid on June 9, 2009, 18:29 GMT

    Thank God we won and qualified!! Balance of the side is much better.

  • zahid on June 9, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    well a far improve performance from pakistan team but i think thier is still some area of improvement and one of dose is defianately the feilding because today feilding was just pathetic pak selaction should drop salman and open with afridi because in the first six over the feilder are in the the circel so affridi well be very usefull in the first six overs sanding him down the order is just wasting him i think misbah should come one down aswell because malik is total creep thier i hope pakistan continue this performance for the rest of the tournament and win the worldcup for distrub nation goodluck to pak team we are with you hope your fielding well improve in this cool condition haha

  • Farhan on June 9, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    The bowling display was excellent, except for the introduction of Shoaib Malik. But the real question is why the real big hitters are kept cooped up until its too late for them to do anything substantial - Misbah, Afridi, Fawad Alam and Sohail Tanvir are all great sloggers - but they only get two or three overs. Misbah should be coming at number 3, and Shoaib Malik should either be coming down the order. The Younis - Malik partnership was totally pathetic, they just couldnt hit the ball!! What I couldnt understand was why they kept taking singles in the 10th over with 8 wickets in hand, when they should have been accelerating. Also Fawad Alam should be given a chance to bowl instead of Shoaib Malik. I'm afraid Malik is not really performing at the moment and he should be dropped before he costs us another match with his limp batting at 1 down.

  • shah shaikh on June 9, 2009, 18:27 GMT

    We saw some positive game from pakistan today , but saying that we have keep in mind that it was netherlands who we were playing its not a strong team or something to be proud of, indeed they won against England that was just a luck. we need this performance aginst india and see our pakistani team strong against the big names in super eights. Today sohail tanveer looked unfit Salman butt carried on with his poor fielding despite putting some runs on board he needs to fix his fielding up or else i suppose yunis khan knows the best. well done shahid afridi keep up with the performance.

  • Allan on June 9, 2009, 18:26 GMT

    As IPL2 made abundantly clear spin is a very critical element of the T20 strategy. OZ got an earlier send-off than expected, but since they lack a viable spin option they were never going to go too far in this tournament anyway. I suspect NZ, ENG and SA are in the same boat, with SA being the best of the 3. If PAK's batsmen step-up (unlikely) I predict a repeat of last year's IND/PAK final. Otherwise I predict a IND/SL final.

  • Shahid on June 9, 2009, 18:25 GMT

    Pakistan is going to meet Ireland in the next stage. Time to tell Intikhab Alam to make sure his last will and other affairs are in order.

  • aftab on June 9, 2009, 18:04 GMT

    i am happy.

  • Ahmad Zaki on June 9, 2009, 17:57 GMT

    Kamran,

    I knew that this win would make you write another emotional blog. Your analytical abilities are outscored always by the pendulum swings of the fortune of our cricket team. Please note,currently we do lack world class players that the world secretly envies. Until the arrival of the next big thing we need to remain patient and thankful for what we have. It could be always worse than the last "worst ever day" and still nothing can be done ......

    Please try to be objective with your writing. We need to learn as a nation to accept defeat with honor and victory with humility. Pakistan cricket needs more supporters, less fanatics.

    Cheers.

  • Mohammad on June 9, 2009, 17:53 GMT

    Boom Boom is a legend and the best bowler pakistan have, none of the doubters better jump on the Afridi badwagon today...

    the quicker haji Afridi becomes cpt the quicker pakistan fortunes will change

  • khalil on June 9, 2009, 17:52 GMT

    We can,t predict.Its the most unpredictable team in the world.What comes next God knows better.

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  • khalil on June 9, 2009, 17:52 GMT

    We can,t predict.Its the most unpredictable team in the world.What comes next God knows better.

  • Mohammad on June 9, 2009, 17:53 GMT

    Boom Boom is a legend and the best bowler pakistan have, none of the doubters better jump on the Afridi badwagon today...

    the quicker haji Afridi becomes cpt the quicker pakistan fortunes will change

  • Ahmad Zaki on June 9, 2009, 17:57 GMT

    Kamran,

    I knew that this win would make you write another emotional blog. Your analytical abilities are outscored always by the pendulum swings of the fortune of our cricket team. Please note,currently we do lack world class players that the world secretly envies. Until the arrival of the next big thing we need to remain patient and thankful for what we have. It could be always worse than the last "worst ever day" and still nothing can be done ......

    Please try to be objective with your writing. We need to learn as a nation to accept defeat with honor and victory with humility. Pakistan cricket needs more supporters, less fanatics.

    Cheers.

  • aftab on June 9, 2009, 18:04 GMT

    i am happy.

  • Shahid on June 9, 2009, 18:25 GMT

    Pakistan is going to meet Ireland in the next stage. Time to tell Intikhab Alam to make sure his last will and other affairs are in order.

  • Allan on June 9, 2009, 18:26 GMT

    As IPL2 made abundantly clear spin is a very critical element of the T20 strategy. OZ got an earlier send-off than expected, but since they lack a viable spin option they were never going to go too far in this tournament anyway. I suspect NZ, ENG and SA are in the same boat, with SA being the best of the 3. If PAK's batsmen step-up (unlikely) I predict a repeat of last year's IND/PAK final. Otherwise I predict a IND/SL final.

  • shah shaikh on June 9, 2009, 18:27 GMT

    We saw some positive game from pakistan today , but saying that we have keep in mind that it was netherlands who we were playing its not a strong team or something to be proud of, indeed they won against England that was just a luck. we need this performance aginst india and see our pakistani team strong against the big names in super eights. Today sohail tanveer looked unfit Salman butt carried on with his poor fielding despite putting some runs on board he needs to fix his fielding up or else i suppose yunis khan knows the best. well done shahid afridi keep up with the performance.

  • Farhan on June 9, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    The bowling display was excellent, except for the introduction of Shoaib Malik. But the real question is why the real big hitters are kept cooped up until its too late for them to do anything substantial - Misbah, Afridi, Fawad Alam and Sohail Tanvir are all great sloggers - but they only get two or three overs. Misbah should be coming at number 3, and Shoaib Malik should either be coming down the order. The Younis - Malik partnership was totally pathetic, they just couldnt hit the ball!! What I couldnt understand was why they kept taking singles in the 10th over with 8 wickets in hand, when they should have been accelerating. Also Fawad Alam should be given a chance to bowl instead of Shoaib Malik. I'm afraid Malik is not really performing at the moment and he should be dropped before he costs us another match with his limp batting at 1 down.

  • zahid on June 9, 2009, 18:28 GMT

    well a far improve performance from pakistan team but i think thier is still some area of improvement and one of dose is defianately the feilding because today feilding was just pathetic pak selaction should drop salman and open with afridi because in the first six over the feilder are in the the circel so affridi well be very usefull in the first six overs sanding him down the order is just wasting him i think misbah should come one down aswell because malik is total creep thier i hope pakistan continue this performance for the rest of the tournament and win the worldcup for distrub nation goodluck to pak team we are with you hope your fielding well improve in this cool condition haha

  • shahid on June 9, 2009, 18:29 GMT

    Thank God we won and qualified!! Balance of the side is much better.