Champions Trophy October 4, 2009

Final thrash fails to come

Pakistan's defeat is a blow and a shock
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Pakistan's defeat is a blow and a shock. A semi-final place would have been an acceptable result before the tournament started but the manner of Pakistan's progress, and a semi-final against New Zealand, promised a happier outcome for Younis Khan's team.

Pakistan fell at least 25 runs short on a good batting track, a performance that could be explained by ring rustiness. An alternative explanation, however, is that Pakistan's experienced batsmen failed to master two fundamental aspects of one-day cricket.

The first of these has dogged Pakistan for over a decade, as they have become too reliant on a rollicking final ten overs. Indeed, the middle order play as if there is no need to rush as it will all come good in the final thrash. But too often the final thrash lasts too few overs and is a major contributor to Pakistan's unpredictability.

The answer is more urgency in the middle to keep the scoreboard ticking and the run-rate up. Pakistan played this game perfectly against India but have disappointed since. It was a sobering sight watching Umar Akmal show his experienced colleagues how to nudge, pinch, and accelerate.

Umar's disappointment at being wrongly dismissed by Simon Taufel was understandable. He had played with passion, pride, and good sense to establish a platform for Pakistan's final thrash. The umpires' decision to report Umar to the match referee was regrettable and pedantic. Fortunately Javagal Srinath sensibly decided to dismiss the charge of dissent.

The second mistake was Pakistan's woeful use of the last Powerplay, which was needed around the 35th over. Again, Pakistan delayed until it was too late and wickets were no longer in hand. It's hard to understand what Pakistan and other teams hope to gain by using the last Powerplay in the final few overs? Clearly, whatever the critics of 50 overs cricket might say, most teams are still well short of mastering this form of the game.

Now Pakistan must regroup for a tough winter. They should depart South Africa with their heads held high and indications of further progress on the road to recovery. But while Younis Khan has created an exciting and successful formula in Twenty20 cricket, his 50 over recipe is a little stale in the batting department.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • abid on October 11, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    Is there any point to have a cricketing relationship with India,I don't think so....

  • Sorcerer on October 10, 2009, 3:38 GMT

    It is definitely infectious. Some of us should stop acting like how Indians have been known generally to react like after a defeat. Cannot blame umpiring for the semi-final loss. I'm glad not a single effigy of Taufel was torched or procession taken out to bemoan the umpiring standards. We still maintain our sanity. Only God knows what would have happened in Mumabai and Kolkata if it was an Indian loss in the Semi!

    As it stands, there is still tremendous anger there buit rightfully directed at their hyped-up cricketers who purrhed like pussies when put under pressure.

    On another count, Shahid Afridi is notorious for leaking out confidential dressing room info, team selection info (prematurely), and now regarding giving his views too often and starkly to anyone carrying a mike and flanked by a cameraman. This has come back to haunt him as he has been told by PCB Chairman in no uncertain terms this cannot go on and he should shoulder responsibility of being a senior player.

  • Abde-Ali Bohra on October 9, 2009, 8:08 GMT

    Team is of eleven fit players. Let's count the fit players. 1. M. Amir only 17 with great accuracy 2. M.Yousuf 40 plus average in batting 3. Saeed Ajmal though 31 but excellent spinner 4. Umar Akmal technically the best batsman, only 20 5. Mohammad Asif the best right arm fast bowler 6. Shahid Afridi (only as a bowler) Now u need 5 more fit players. My choices are 7. Fawad Alam 8. Only a fit wicket keeper, dont need a batter, a drop catch is more costly than 25 odd runs, kamran average is just 25 runs. 9. Somebody fill position 4 10. Somebody fill position 5 11. Somebody fill position 6

    My team would always play in this descending order 1. Fawad Alam 2. Umar Akmal (Openers have best techniques) 3. Mohammad Yousuf 4. 5. 6. 7. Wicket Keeper 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Mohammad Amir 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Mohammad Asif

    Since, i could not really think of middle order players, i leave it to the room to think , please they should average 40 plus. Thanks

  • johnny on October 9, 2009, 5:03 GMT

    Younis khan is a complete loser. He does not deserve to be in the team leave aside captaining it. Is there any way we can rid of this useless man? Our team ain't bad. We have quality players but our dumb captain is wasting one great unit. I bet that if Wasim or Imran were given such a diverse bowling attack, they would not let the semi-final to let off our hands. Our captain provided no support what so ever to bowlers, the field positions were defensive and the singles were scored easily. This man is brainless..I m telling you... believe me.. lastly, Congrats to Kiwi's and Aussie's

  • Noor on October 8, 2009, 23:21 GMT

    Younis Khan should not have played. If he is injured then why was he playing. Intikhab Alarm should have stepped in and not allowed a injured player particape in an important match, not only in dropped a catch that may have altered the result against NZ but his batting was poor.

    I am with Shaobib Malik about changing batting order, Malik did well at No.4.

    I think Pak should get rid off Younis and Intikhab, I thought Younis resigned from one day matches after the 20/20 touranment.

  • OpeninBatsman on October 8, 2009, 7:19 GMT

    @Ray ..if ur saying india wud hv lost even if raina wasnt given out..then i will say even if umar akmal wasnt given out still pakistan wud hv lost d match as last overs were in progress n he cud hv been out the next over trying to hit boudaries..ok double standards are nt good buddy....use some sense

  • Aizaz on October 8, 2009, 4:06 GMT

    The simple thing is Pakistan had a bad day and NZ had an extraordinary day. After watching the Final one thing is for sure.The wrong team made the final. Pakistan wouldve definitely tested Aus more

  • Aquil Ahmed Siddiqui (Dubai) on October 7, 2009, 19:20 GMT

    Pakistan's defeats against Australia and against Newzealand are the hot topics. Some irrelevant persons passed very harsh statments against Players, Umpires and Match fixing. I demand it should not happened. Players may perform low or make mistakes on a perticular day but we should not accuse them for match fixing or letting down their own country. Umpires can also make mistakes and sometime these decisions can go against us and loose the match. Bear this loss as a good sportsman. Our Team and Players are showing big improvement in their techniques. We should encourage them. Reaching to the Semi Final level was not expected in the beginning. The blame of loosing Australia match purposely, can not be proved. The Semi Final match was lost due to the Wonderar's bouncy wicket where Pakistani Batsmen historically are not capable of putting big score. This weakness our Batsmen have to remove. Our Bowlers and Fielders also have to adjust for such wickets.

  • Ray on October 7, 2009, 18:14 GMT

    Overall the Pakistan team played well, victory and defeat are part of the game. They have been struggling over the past few years, and have been known to surrender in games, at least that wasn't seen. If the umpiring had been fair, I use the word fair because I feel that some of the decisions were unfair against the team, Umar Akmal's being one. But there were at least 2 LBW decisions that were very easily out and were not given, and 2 50/50's - I mean in such a low scoring game these things matter. As far as my Indian friends saying that had Gambhir stayed it would have been different. Gambhir was out due to his own fault sirs, not the umpires'. As for Suresh Raina, kindly re-watch the replays, it is very inconclusive, I see the ball hitting the leg before the bat. Even if that wasn't out, India lost by over 50 runs! They would've started to take more chances and then who knows what would've happened. Why Taufel was allowed to stand with Aus already in the finals is beyond me.

  • Sorcerer on October 7, 2009, 15:38 GMT

    A typo in the last post - it's defection to banned "ICL" which was the acid-test of where the real priorities of players lay, not IPL, as playing in the former league had been explicitly warned against by PCB; meaning that the players who still went there did not really give two hoots about playing for the country. Yousuf's case was though seemingly different as he got visibly swayed by Inzamam whose career had anyway come to a spluttering halt in those days.

    PCB should stick to its announced stand in such cases and this case of pardoning a group of players does not really make sense although in the larger scheme of things this aligns nicely with the national administrators' methods as a number of questionable politicians too got away scot free courtesy of NRO.

  • abid on October 11, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    Is there any point to have a cricketing relationship with India,I don't think so....

  • Sorcerer on October 10, 2009, 3:38 GMT

    It is definitely infectious. Some of us should stop acting like how Indians have been known generally to react like after a defeat. Cannot blame umpiring for the semi-final loss. I'm glad not a single effigy of Taufel was torched or procession taken out to bemoan the umpiring standards. We still maintain our sanity. Only God knows what would have happened in Mumabai and Kolkata if it was an Indian loss in the Semi!

    As it stands, there is still tremendous anger there buit rightfully directed at their hyped-up cricketers who purrhed like pussies when put under pressure.

    On another count, Shahid Afridi is notorious for leaking out confidential dressing room info, team selection info (prematurely), and now regarding giving his views too often and starkly to anyone carrying a mike and flanked by a cameraman. This has come back to haunt him as he has been told by PCB Chairman in no uncertain terms this cannot go on and he should shoulder responsibility of being a senior player.

  • Abde-Ali Bohra on October 9, 2009, 8:08 GMT

    Team is of eleven fit players. Let's count the fit players. 1. M. Amir only 17 with great accuracy 2. M.Yousuf 40 plus average in batting 3. Saeed Ajmal though 31 but excellent spinner 4. Umar Akmal technically the best batsman, only 20 5. Mohammad Asif the best right arm fast bowler 6. Shahid Afridi (only as a bowler) Now u need 5 more fit players. My choices are 7. Fawad Alam 8. Only a fit wicket keeper, dont need a batter, a drop catch is more costly than 25 odd runs, kamran average is just 25 runs. 9. Somebody fill position 4 10. Somebody fill position 5 11. Somebody fill position 6

    My team would always play in this descending order 1. Fawad Alam 2. Umar Akmal (Openers have best techniques) 3. Mohammad Yousuf 4. 5. 6. 7. Wicket Keeper 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Mohammad Amir 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Mohammad Asif

    Since, i could not really think of middle order players, i leave it to the room to think , please they should average 40 plus. Thanks

  • johnny on October 9, 2009, 5:03 GMT

    Younis khan is a complete loser. He does not deserve to be in the team leave aside captaining it. Is there any way we can rid of this useless man? Our team ain't bad. We have quality players but our dumb captain is wasting one great unit. I bet that if Wasim or Imran were given such a diverse bowling attack, they would not let the semi-final to let off our hands. Our captain provided no support what so ever to bowlers, the field positions were defensive and the singles were scored easily. This man is brainless..I m telling you... believe me.. lastly, Congrats to Kiwi's and Aussie's

  • Noor on October 8, 2009, 23:21 GMT

    Younis Khan should not have played. If he is injured then why was he playing. Intikhab Alarm should have stepped in and not allowed a injured player particape in an important match, not only in dropped a catch that may have altered the result against NZ but his batting was poor.

    I am with Shaobib Malik about changing batting order, Malik did well at No.4.

    I think Pak should get rid off Younis and Intikhab, I thought Younis resigned from one day matches after the 20/20 touranment.

  • OpeninBatsman on October 8, 2009, 7:19 GMT

    @Ray ..if ur saying india wud hv lost even if raina wasnt given out..then i will say even if umar akmal wasnt given out still pakistan wud hv lost d match as last overs were in progress n he cud hv been out the next over trying to hit boudaries..ok double standards are nt good buddy....use some sense

  • Aizaz on October 8, 2009, 4:06 GMT

    The simple thing is Pakistan had a bad day and NZ had an extraordinary day. After watching the Final one thing is for sure.The wrong team made the final. Pakistan wouldve definitely tested Aus more

  • Aquil Ahmed Siddiqui (Dubai) on October 7, 2009, 19:20 GMT

    Pakistan's defeats against Australia and against Newzealand are the hot topics. Some irrelevant persons passed very harsh statments against Players, Umpires and Match fixing. I demand it should not happened. Players may perform low or make mistakes on a perticular day but we should not accuse them for match fixing or letting down their own country. Umpires can also make mistakes and sometime these decisions can go against us and loose the match. Bear this loss as a good sportsman. Our Team and Players are showing big improvement in their techniques. We should encourage them. Reaching to the Semi Final level was not expected in the beginning. The blame of loosing Australia match purposely, can not be proved. The Semi Final match was lost due to the Wonderar's bouncy wicket where Pakistani Batsmen historically are not capable of putting big score. This weakness our Batsmen have to remove. Our Bowlers and Fielders also have to adjust for such wickets.

  • Ray on October 7, 2009, 18:14 GMT

    Overall the Pakistan team played well, victory and defeat are part of the game. They have been struggling over the past few years, and have been known to surrender in games, at least that wasn't seen. If the umpiring had been fair, I use the word fair because I feel that some of the decisions were unfair against the team, Umar Akmal's being one. But there were at least 2 LBW decisions that were very easily out and were not given, and 2 50/50's - I mean in such a low scoring game these things matter. As far as my Indian friends saying that had Gambhir stayed it would have been different. Gambhir was out due to his own fault sirs, not the umpires'. As for Suresh Raina, kindly re-watch the replays, it is very inconclusive, I see the ball hitting the leg before the bat. Even if that wasn't out, India lost by over 50 runs! They would've started to take more chances and then who knows what would've happened. Why Taufel was allowed to stand with Aus already in the finals is beyond me.

  • Sorcerer on October 7, 2009, 15:38 GMT

    A typo in the last post - it's defection to banned "ICL" which was the acid-test of where the real priorities of players lay, not IPL, as playing in the former league had been explicitly warned against by PCB; meaning that the players who still went there did not really give two hoots about playing for the country. Yousuf's case was though seemingly different as he got visibly swayed by Inzamam whose career had anyway come to a spluttering halt in those days.

    PCB should stick to its announced stand in such cases and this case of pardoning a group of players does not really make sense although in the larger scheme of things this aligns nicely with the national administrators' methods as a number of questionable politicians too got away scot free courtesy of NRO.

  • Sorcerer on October 7, 2009, 10:17 GMT

    Pride in playing for the nation and the right priorities must be sorted out. You have nowhere else to look for the acid-test but determining which players defected to IPL to find out who is truly playing for pride of the nation and who has bucks more close to their heart.

    Players lke Rana Naveed are no match for stalwarts like YK as the latter turned their backs to the Indian circus whereas players in the former category fell head over heals for making quick bucks. Had it not been for the ICL-fiasco and fizzling out, and Pak / India political tension, Rana Toupe Naveed would still be bowling and bawling at opposition in the Indian cricket scene.

    Case of Yousuf is slightly different as he was undoubtedly a superstar who was being treated shoddily by authorities, and then we had the pious Inzi-brigade trying their best to damage the country's team through signings and defections to dodgy ICL games. The one eternal thing which needs sorting out is the opening combination though.

  • Arshad Khan on October 7, 2009, 6:40 GMT

    To begin with, I think New Zealand beat Pakistan fair and square. I also think that there was only one flawed decision that of Umar Akmal, which can be ignored. The LBW appeals by Pakistan bowlers also did not merit loud shouts but should have rather been polite enquiries, if at all. So, well done New Zealand and congratulations Pak team for accepting the defeat with grace.

    On a different note, referring to the Pakistan parliamentarian Mr. Dasti's wild accusations of Pakistan team's alleged 'under-performance' in semi-finals, he should be aware of the kind of disservice he is doing to the country's already depleted image. But then, people like Mr. Dasti get away easily because of the lack of proper procedures and legislations. In my opinion, if proved wrong, he deserves to be tried in the court of law and charged with treason. If the PCB does not stand up now, Mr. Dasti's remarks would stand true.

  • Kamran Qureshi on October 7, 2009, 4:29 GMT

    drop catch,poor utilization of power play,poor umpiring,poor batmen performance,you name it.These are the causes of pak defeat.But this is pakistan,the same shot which brought hundreds of runs against india got malik,yusuf,afridi's wickets.I am satisfied with our performance but we must develop specialist openers soon.Then we will be not so unpredictable.

  • kimi on October 7, 2009, 0:13 GMT

    Pakistan made some mistakes but the captaincy of younus was very good atleast the best in post wasim and waqar area.. i think some changes should be made as far as batting is concerned. 1.change of imran nazir.instead of him nasir jamshed, khurram manzoor or even sulman butt is a better choice.pak already have an agressive opener kamran who gives them 20-30 runs on average in every match.so the oother opener should be able to stay on the pitch much like gautam gambhir. 2. the other should be removal of oldies like misbah. and give chance to any other strong middle order batsman and strong warning should be given to malik and yousuf to be regular. 3. pakistan also needs a geniune quicky who can bowl at 150 plus.i was very sad when i saw the quickest ball balled tally in the tournament and there was no pakistani name in it. i believe tht the board will find such a talent. n the match fixing allegations against pak team r baseless n we strongly support and believe in our team.

  • Nadeem Mirza on October 6, 2009, 22:47 GMT

    Wow! Mr. Kamran, no Mohammad Yousuf bashing? What do you have to say now? Highest average for Pakistan in the Champions Trophy? You were barking at the wrong tree. Younis Khan should have been your target. The difference in the semi final lost is Vettori. He lead from the front. Younis nursing the little finger should not have played at all. Misbah should have been the replacement and Afridi should be made captain. Adios!

  • ashish on October 6, 2009, 22:37 GMT

    mislam, you talk so much about Akmal dismissal cost Pakistan the game, what do you think of Suresh Raina dismissal in the game against India? Raina had bat on the ball, and he was given out LBW wrongly, wasn't he? and if he was not given out, based on how he was taking apart the bowling, what do you think would have happened to that match? Pakistan will not have been in semis. But you cannot extrapolate things like this, umpiring mistakes happen, especially on LBW or bat/pad catches. Who knows Akmal would have been clean bowled next ball had he stayed on, same thing with Raina, he may have gone on or he would have gotten out. It's over, get over it and move on.

  • muzz on October 6, 2009, 21:37 GMT

    excellent analysis solutions? needs new blood in no misbah or yousuf or malik - get rid off non performers/keep the bowlers/solid opener/afridi must play cricket strokes not a clown in circus attitude to please the crowd/yunus needs to be serious not smiling after dropping catch -ack of professionalism is killing us.

  • quadir on October 6, 2009, 18:31 GMT

    i am in the favor of that politician who is saying India has influence in umpiring decision in pak nz match it is true they want us to loose in anyway.. Pak should not play and avoid to play India in any condition. We should boycott India . and pak players should not try to play in IPL,Cl n all boycott all of them...

  • mislam on October 6, 2009, 17:07 GMT

    @openingBatsman, you did not even dare to tell your name. I did not say to give a wrong decision, that was a poor call by the reader and his poor understanding. Replay showed couple of LBW appeal against NZ batsmen would make that right call. The umpires fail to make that call. That was the point.

  • Wasim on October 6, 2009, 16:48 GMT

    Umar akmal should bat up the order for pakistan to take full advantage of his tallent each game

  • pardesi on October 6, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    The problem lies in the batting lineup.We all know 1 and 2 have never been reliable but they do provide decent starts more often then not.The problem is 3,4,5 and maybe 6 in in batting lineup. These guys Malik,Yunis,Yusuf take too many overs to settle and ultimately dry up the runs in the middle overs.When they try to accelerate they get out so what is the point of wasting middle overs by playing defensively and not keep the scoreboard ticking? Afridi is no good down the order as we have all seen. They need to insert Afridi and Omar Akmal between those three slow batters. The only reason Malik,Yunis & Yusuf bat at 3/4/5 is bcause they are not effective at any other number. That is wasting the true talents of one day cricket like Afridi and Omar Akmal.Yunis should retire from oneday and so should Yusuf. The game has passed them bye. Give chance to others. Please.

  • OpeninBatsman on October 6, 2009, 14:11 GMT

    @ mislam.. its a stupid suggestion to make dat umpires shud have made anthr wrong decision as a compensation for their earlier mistake of giving Akmal out.. Two Wrongs Never Make A Right

  • mislam on October 6, 2009, 13:12 GMT

    We can make all the permutations and combination in reasonings to decide a possible pakistan win, as Ian chapel expected and so did most of the cricket world. There was poor batting, fielding etc by pakistan team, true. But the key turning point of the game was the LBW to Umar Akmal. Simon Taufel knew that very well at half time, if not at the time of giving decision. Then when New Zealand played, the umpires could have given another close decision in pakistan's favor to make up for the poor decision before. We have seen that in many games. The umpires did not do that. So, now many will believe that the umpires did not want a pakistan's victory. It will possibly go to the record book that this important semifinal had few bad decisions, unlike the final. I am curious about how the western media is picking up this issue. If it was a subcontinent umpire givng such decisions as Taufel did, what would be the effect.

    Srinath's action on upmire's report was a good lesson for the umpires.

  • nasir farid on October 6, 2009, 10:55 GMT

    Dear Kamran, we can criticise pakistan all we want, but you have to give credit to new zealand! They did their homework on pakistan, and that too with a below strenght team. They had plans and they executed them brilliantly!!! i wont mention everything, but just the fact that they were able to cut of area's where mohd yousuf likes to score and take eazy singles... New Zealand new exactly how pakistan would go about scoring, because we are just too predictable with our methods! Theres lots of areas where pakistan can improve, whether its team selection, captaincy, fielding etc... but i do feel pakistan needs to learn from new zealand on how to approach games, alot more research needs to be done on opposition and players.

  • Sorcerer on October 6, 2009, 10:36 GMT

    I'll be very surprised if the Pak cricket pundits generally would be calling for major changes just because we lost an ODI to NZ! It was a Semi-Final but you cannot keep beating a team for eternity in major events.

    Younis silenced his opportunist critics straightaway a couple of months ago too when some people were running amock on his cavalier carefree attitude.

    Some of us also have to realise and acknowledge that Pak came within an ace of beating the champion team of the tournament too. Take the thrashing handed to the neighbors, and overall this was a satisfying venture. Our hopes had been raised a lot after the thumping given to India as their team was shot down to the ground where it still is. Our players have come back home properly and haven't had to fly in small groups to be frisked away by the security personnel to save them from the team supoorters' ire....and for good reason.

    This tournament has stamped the arrival of Amir and Umar on the big stage...major gains.

  • Sorcerer on October 6, 2009, 10:20 GMT

    The saving grace was that Pak won their Final...yes the match against India was crucial to our team's fortunes. This loss in the Semis does not sound so bad as the joy and the pleasure of beating India was far more.

    On another count, I'm against this policy of collymoddling in which certain players are pampered and their repeated fall in form not punished. This in-built mechanism from which Misbah got dropped has to be maintained and if the counter point is raised that it conjures "fear of non-performance", quite simply the player should not be representing the team on the international arena in the first place!

    Inzamam astonishingly complained about this failure fear - a point rammed home the very next day by Kamran, as it starkly set in perspective the timid mindset that had gripped Pak team in the final two shambolic years of Inzamam's captaincy. It would be a great improvement if indeed the team has cast away that mindset now as being proclaimed by the team psychologist.

  • Mudassar Siddiq on October 6, 2009, 9:52 GMT

    Younis Khan is the culprit. Not only because that he is a captain abd he should be the only one to be blamed, but he has done so many wrongs, highlighted in the comments above, that he should be sacked IMMEDIATELY. Keeping aside his performance, the way he talks, the way he walks, the way he leads and set a role model, the way he make strategies are horrible. He does not bear a personality to be even a part of the team

  • Mehdi-Singapore on October 6, 2009, 9:14 GMT

    Depression is over!!!Need crafty crickters like Javed Miandad when batting.He exactly knew how to bat in dicy circumstances.Our bowlers were erractic also.What an opportunity missed!!!!!! I still stand when i say that Younis Khan is the best thing that happened to Pakistan cricket recently.Need to get the boys together but he must learn to guide them in circumstances like what we had.Look at Aussies and Kiwis,how well they played even not having their key players.Management is the key.But we did achieve one thing!!!!!!!Good luck for the future.

  • Kumar on October 6, 2009, 8:40 GMT

    "Pak Parliamentary committee summons Younus, Butt on CT show"

    http://cricket.rediff.com/report/2009/oct/06/champions-trophy-pakistan-parliamentary-committee-summons-younus-on-champions-trophy-show.htm

    Here we go again. If there is something Indian and Pakistani supporters can agree on, it should be their contempt for their politicians.

  • afficer on October 6, 2009, 8:36 GMT

    for God sake plz can somebody tell the batting power play is taken by the batsmen in the middle and not the captain...dont blame it all on younis....and talking of including asif..???why was he out for 18 months???because of younis???and someone is talking about series losses to aus, sri lanka, south africa, england india/???we just played against aus and srilanka this year so get your facts correct..and one indian fan is saying younis should learn from dhoni..yes ...dhoni...instead of going upto semi..you should get exit in the group stages of WC, T20, CT...etc etc..dhoni the great...plz dont talk of sacking everybody in the present team...give the guys sometime...10 odi in the whole year is nothing ...

  • Sorcerer on October 6, 2009, 8:10 GMT

    The most blatant display of lack of professionalism on Pak side came from Rana Naveed, as he ourageously bowled two no-balls in such a tight match situation, and as his over came to an end, the writing was clearly on the wall. Where were his sringing swinging yorkers when most needed? The sin of overstepping coming so close to the line in such match situations is simply unpardonable and Rana's blunders knocked the stuffing out of the team's spirit there and then.

    Failure to adapt to the new batting powerplay format despite repeated comments from experts on TV which the whole team set up was exposed to as they are watching the match on TV in Dressing Room was reminiscent of quasi-criminal move by Pak top brass including the skipper Inzamam in a Test few years ago in NZ when they decided not take an extra half an hour to wrap up the run-chase on the penultimate day despite repeated concerns of commentators that heavy showers are forecast for the next day! Why jettison common sense?

  • rext on October 6, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    Any chance of some graciousness or acknowledgement toward the Team that eliminated Pakistan? The cricketing World wants the unreliable, unpredictable and brilliant Pakistan team back but if the comments on this page are typical, you defeat yourselves. Forget your arguing about tactics, selections, pompous assumptions, infighting, never ending team criticism and spend some time studying the attitude of the Teams (yes it is a real word Team and with a real meaning) that you would hope to be as good as. Some journalistic leadership might be a good place to start!

  • Sufy on October 6, 2009, 8:00 GMT

    Pakistan can play only against India and they take cricket as border fight,,if austrailia and Newzealand surround pakistan as India they wud have defeated.Pakistani team is destroying the cricket game ,,,,,As players like Afridi plays so sensibly sometimes and sometimes play like mentallly retarted,,,,,Younis khan doesnt know anything just he can show his yellowish teeth all the time on the field and off the field,,,,i dont no why he smiles soo much,,,,,,,and he should learn to earn respect from his teammates and learn from Daniel Vittorii injured during final match and rested himself....Younis is totally not fit to play cricket and lead a team as he got so many talented players....Younis say goodbye to cricket and join commentry box u got a good english and a british accent.

  • Jay Khan on October 6, 2009, 5:37 GMT

    Drop a catch lose the match. The skipper did just that in the semi final. Its time he drops his irritating grin. Or else drop him altogether.

  • mislam on October 6, 2009, 4:54 GMT

    All these comments makers will find the answers why pakistan lost the semi if they vote on these questions: 1. Injured captain should have been replaced by the vice captain? 2. Asif in place of Navid or Gul? 3. Simon Taufel's poor umpiring?

    Any two out of the above 3 would give pakistan an easy sailing to the final. Probability, 80%. Give your vote to the team management and the writers.

    Pakistan produce exciting crickters - Ian Chapel

    They do not know how to use them. That is the difference between the two teams.

    See the huge number of comments by the readers after Razzaq was not includede in the team. Even his place in place of Navid could win this match. Poor selection and team managemnet. Can't they take a lesson from australia, how to play best 11 when you have too many options.

  • venkat on October 6, 2009, 4:46 GMT

    And with regards to the whining about the umpiring, would I be the only Indian on this forum who would say that Raina was terribly unlucky? Raina was clearly not out and had he been at the wicket for five more overs India would have won with 5 overs to spare and Pakistan wouldn't have been in the semi-final in the first place!! I am not trying to whip up passions. All I am trying to say is that the Pakistani supporters should stop whining about one bad decision. It happens!!

  • venkat on October 6, 2009, 4:42 GMT

    Glad that Srinath dismissed the charge of dissent against Akmal. The players are not machines to walk away without even a look of disgust on their faces. For far too long sport in general has been going down the politically correct route and this only makes viewing sport a dull boring affair

  • Javed Zarif Canada on October 6, 2009, 3:10 GMT

    Out of eight teams participated, seven lost the champions Trophy, Pakistan being one of them. The boys fought hard and they must get credit for this. Commentators and some others are criticising Yousuf for playing soft, but what would you do when you are 69/4. Omar Akmal was given out at a very critical juncture, a decision that changed the course of match. As i always say, please bring specialist openers and get rid of "bat a bit and bowl a bit" philosophy. Rana Naved contributed with the bat as little as Asif could have done , but imagine what a difference he could have made in bowling. Overall, not a bad performance by Pakistan.

  • imran on October 6, 2009, 1:46 GMT

    Also to reach the top,and stay there you have to be innovative,constantly thinking out of the box and looking for improvement.Not relying on the bowlers to win matches with stumps flying.Umar Gul's bowling worries me,i hope he is not just a T20 specialist.S Malik & Misbah are not talented batsman,so its better to groom a young player & not bring back past flops like Butt,Farhat,M Hafeez,Faisal Iqbal.Razzaq is only good for T20,a quick burst of slogging and he bowls like an old aunty.In ODI's his bowling will be exposed and he can't bat properly and only in one gear-slogging, so lets not go backwards.If U Akmal can do it,then everyone else needs to learn from his example,he's a bright lad and tries to learn the game and works hard at his batting,instead of posing around and acting like a prima donner(take note S Akther & co).I Khan saw Inzi batting against Waqar without a helmet & drafted him in.We need to do similar searches becos the true talent doesn't get a chance to rise to the top

  • Imran on October 6, 2009, 1:34 GMT

    I think also we should forget little things like umpiring decisions,luck etc, these things are always part of the equation,so lets live with that.We need to produce wickets with pace,movement and bounce in domestic cricket and home matches.These batsman go abroad & don't know how to play on seaming/bouncing tracks.The PCB is at fault for not implementing the right structure to produce quality batsmen.Club cricket needs to be made more attractive and commercialised to bring money into club level,then the fringe players will have motivation to excel.Like in the premier league in England,even if you don't play for your country you can achieve and be recognised for what you do at club level. Otherwise you're fighting for 11 spots and the losers have no motivation.There's enough talent there to produce a good club competition, especially T20 and 50overs. The ICC champions cup proofs that T20 is just entertainment and not a reflection of cricketing prowess. cont'd.

  • rusty on October 6, 2009, 0:57 GMT

    There is a simple reason Pakistan lost - New Zealand were better. You can blame it on Taufel, on Younis, on the batting but, in the end, you were defeated by the better team on the day.

  • Freaks on October 6, 2009, 0:54 GMT

    Seems to me that Umar Akmal's decision (against Pak) was as decisive to the outcome of semi-final as Suresh Raina's (in favour of Pak) in the India match. What goes around comes around...

  • shahid on October 6, 2009, 0:44 GMT

    leading from the front does not mean get in th team and perform nothing ,every body seems to be relating it some way or the other to the Imran Khan Heroics in 1992 World Cup but remember He performed in the Team and had agreat innnings of 44 and 72 in Semi finals and finals and also he was injured and he captained as well and was not wasting a player position in the team as he performed as any other player would have ,making a fit misbah sit out side specially after his innings agasint australia and inclduing himself to lead from the front,Vettori was unfit but he performed with bat and bowl (leading from the front) and when he was not fit and thought he will not perform to optimum level then he did not played agisnt australia in the final.another thing to consider is if he is feeling som much pain in the finger that he is unable to stop a ball and take a dolly catch like the one he dropped the he should have placed him self as mid off or on as less leckly position for a catch.sensless

  • roomi on October 5, 2009, 22:41 GMT

    Pakistan was unlucky with the Umpriring. Team selection was fine. Although Yousaf Malick Afridi Younis all struggled. Yusuf took too long. Nazir seemed to be oncourse for a long inning but was unlucky with the Bond delivery he got. He should be a given a longer run as he was brought in only at the end of Srilanka tour and has been under pressure since his return. Umar needs to be pushed up the order. Yusuf malick Yunis and Misbah all take their time in getting going. Ajmal Amir Umar were the bright spots for pakistan. Pakistan wasted an oppurtunity to give batting practice against aussies to Rana Umar and Afridi by pushing them up and giving them time to settle. PAKISTAN lost the match against in the batting by scoring 50 runs less.

  • Tariq Hafiz Orwigsburg PA ; USA on October 5, 2009, 22:20 GMT

    Instead of senior-bashing & captain-insulting, we should appreciate the fact that despite this traumatic & heart-wrenching defeat, OUR team demonstrated intence group cohesiveness, field unity & the fighting spirit that was obviously missing & lacking during the Srilankan series. PAKISTAN-ZINDABAAD

  • KM Malik on October 5, 2009, 21:43 GMT

    1. Yousaf, Shoaib and Younis should only be in Test side but absolutely not in one day or T20, period. 2. Umpiring, no doubt, was really harsh against Pakistan in semi final keeping in view of LBW appeals by Pakistan, balls flying over the shoulder hieght during Pak inning and were not declared wide and very very poor decision of Simon Taufel of Umar Akmal. Most importantly it was Pak batting that lost the game.

  • Saeed Raamay on October 5, 2009, 21:43 GMT

    Poor Team Management:

    No idea what there duties are if they can not feel and analyze what is going wrong in the team and convey some urgent feedback to the players. I would be very disappointed if they do not do continuous analysis of bowling, batting and fielding and sending in uptodate information to the Captain and players in the field. Support staff should play an active role in the game as they are in better position to feel and oversee what is going on in the field and then communicate with the Captain. Does this happen in Paksitan side, I doubt it.

    Future Programme:

    Pak should change its Coach to a younger person who knows the moderncricket and it requirments. Uncle Intikhab has done a great job but new and fresh ideas/method required, a coach probably with a batting background and a permanent bowling coach should be with the team all the time. Aqib did a great job and probably his services should be attained asap as Pakistan has a busy and important season ahead.....

  • Saeed Raamay on October 5, 2009, 21:33 GMT

    .......... If Rana has put the ball in the good areas he must not have given so many runs or atleast he must have got one wicket or two as on the aamir doing a good job, NZ's gonna attack him and he should have created an opportunity.. Simple! but he failed to read the game being so much experienced, it should be scrutinized.

    Younis' Effect:

    If he was injured why he played or he is just using his injury claims to avoid criticism for his poor form, I think his injury should be investigated that if it was true and not fully fit Why Team management let him Play as it means we will be playing 10 players against 11. Or if his finger was OK then why he is using that excuse for his bad form.

    since then he is Captain he has taken away power from the Pakistan's batting, it start from Australia tour to UAE and then 20/20 to Sri Lanka and here. I think he himself can not handle the pressure of batting and being a Captain.

    Poor Team Management: .......Continued........

  • nasir on October 5, 2009, 21:30 GMT

    I wonder why nobody from media commenting o Younis's inclusion in team after injury. Waseem Akram in commentary went on to say "that's leading from the front". That's not leadership, it is stupidity and egostical. If a player is not 100% fit, he should not be the part of team , captian or not. Please get rid of Rana. That guy was never a world class bowler. He only got in as we lost Shoib and Asif, and there was no one else. I wonder if the whole tour selection committee had a collective dementia to include Rana and let Asif rest.

  • Saeed Raamay on October 5, 2009, 21:19 GMT

    Why Pakistan Lost:

    Umpiring Effect - Biggest one: Taufel and othe guy was really harsh to Pakistan and from start to finish. Taufel clearly took revenge off Pakistan for Dar's award from ICC night before.

    Gul and Rana Effect: Naved-ul-Hasan 8 0 57 0 7.12 (3nb)

    Umar Gul 8.5 0 48 1 5.43 (1nb, 1w)

    They are the only bowler of Pakistan giving 4 no balls, next hihgest economy rate is of Ajmal's at 4.87 but he took two important wickets as well and gave only one wide.

    Rana/Gul must be scrutinised for their bowling, because in first 14 overs Amir's figures were......

    7 Overs, 2 Maiden, 18 runs and 1 wicket which include one six in the first over by McCulum and he only conceded two 4's in the rest of his spell of 7 overs a fairly long spell. Very Well done Amir! on the other hand in other 7 overs Rana and Gul conceded 43 runs it is quite a contrast especially Rana was very generous giving 30 in his first 4 overs with out any wicket......... Continued.......

  • Shahid on October 5, 2009, 21:03 GMT

    Not only because we lost the semifinal but even otherwise just notice that Younis has played 16 matches in 2009 with average 24,87 and only 2 fifties. And the seniors Younis, Yousef, Shoaib, Misbah and Afridi, add up to 68 personal matches and they all together only 7 times passed 50 mark. Afridi played 17 matches and never made a 50 and his average is only 18. I bet Aamer is a better bat then Afridi if based on recent form. So mr. Kamran what can some one expect and dont you think that its time to try some youngesters as time is ripe for planing for the worldcup.The allrounders like afridi and rana should look at the performances of Watson and Johnsen.

  • Ali_Sayeed on October 5, 2009, 19:44 GMT

    Pakistan's biggest weakness is it's batting and I don't see any batsmen apart from M Yosuf "chacha" who can play raw pace on bouncy wickets and the Kiwis knew that and bowled in the right areas. Yet again Imran Nazir was hopeless and I can't understand he being an opener how can keep he keep getting out in 20s and 30s.Openers should take the innings to atleast 30th over and then the middle-order steps in but here we don't anybody in the pakistani team who can step in and take respomsibilty. I wonder how are they going to cope up against South african fast bowlers.

  • jawad haq on October 5, 2009, 19:16 GMT

    First of all I liked the article and second congratulation to NZ team for doing a better job. Well now we will hear chants like fire the seniors. ok so lets do that..and then when the youngsters will fail then all of the above will say we need experience of Younis and Yousuf or Misbah. Seems like either way people back home are not happy. Me dont like this. I think we need to give this team more support. They are doing great and it takes a lot of effort to be no 1 and remain no 1 in international cricket. Having said that Pak need to do something about their fielding if they want any realistic chance of being at No.1.

  • Amer Khan on October 5, 2009, 19:00 GMT

    It seems like everyone is just bashing the captaining, and saying that we should have just done the opposite of what Younis Khan did, i.e, play Misbah ul Haq and Mohammad Asif. That is not the point nor the reason why we lost. Misbah has just plain sucked for Pakistan all year, and needs to go back into retirement unless he can prove himself. As for Asif, it was too late to experiment with new bowlers, and we needed as many bats as possible with the way that we bat. Despite the extras, the bowling attack was still strong with Aamir and Ajmal. We just need to delicately push old guys like Misbah, Yousuf and Shoaib Malik out, and bring in new blood. Why is it that we always have good young bowlers to rely on, but never good young batsmen? This has to change, and naysaying every other decision is a waste of time.

  • umair on October 5, 2009, 18:14 GMT

    Guys i think they need to sort their team selection and need to sort their batting..There is no discipline in bowling how many no-balls and fielding was awfull not upt the standard..Also Abdul razzaq selection was baffling as he performed so well in T-20 final..batting is weakness so need to strengthen it..Finally Umar akmal and Aamer both have great future provided..they will future stars for pakistan Cricket ..Afridi role should be scrutinized because at his experince he should know how to play in asemi-final look at the guys like Bret lee and mitchell johnson they place a value for thier wicket..immensely talented guy is just making a mockery at the centre stage..i think all players need to take a lesson out of australians ..

  • Amyn Habib on October 5, 2009, 18:07 GMT

    Pakistan's defeat is hardly a surprise. Just look at the batting. What is amazing is the inability to focus on the real problem. The problem is that there are some terrible batsmen in the team. Just look at the batting averages in this tournament. There was a lot of noise and clamor to bring back Imran Nazir. "Nazir must play too" declared Kamran Abbasi. Why? How many times has he failed as an opening batsman for Pakistan? The chances that Imran will be able to contribute value as a batsman are about the same as Afridi's. Zero. They are both worthless as batsmen, and they have a long record to prove it. And what of Kamran Akmal as an opening batsman? How many times does he have to fail before we let go. Kamran Abbasi thinks the batting problem is with the middle order failing. That is ridiculous. The middle order batsmen took the team to the semifinal and did as well as could be expected given the main problem. And that is the total failure of the opening pair and the terrible performance of Younis Khan. Interestingly, “the expert” argued against playing Yousuf who emerged as the top scoring Pakistani batsman and the one with the best averages.

  • Michael on October 5, 2009, 17:25 GMT

    Although I am an australian but I would say Simon and Ian were harsh to Pakistan ... there were many LBW appeals which were genuine and could be given out. I feel so sad about it !

  • Sohail Khan on October 5, 2009, 17:22 GMT

    Guys - Umar Akmal should be promoted to No.3 for this game and for future. Shoaib Malik should be out of the team, as he is not a genuine batter. Remember when he started his career he used to bat at No. 10. But just see how the Cricket is adminstrated in Pak that this guy is now included in a team as a front line batter. Look at the gap b/w his bat and pad when he plays. A football can sneak in b/w that gap. Misbah is also over rated. The reason is not included in the team earlier in his career should now be obvious to everybody. Its high time we should start including new blood in pak cricket. Fawad alam for one is with the time for couple of years as toursit. Younis Khan should give chance to youngsters instead of relying on already tested player. Malik's one inning against India should not earn him another 15 games of no or low score innings. That inning is just bad bowling from Indian bowlers. If you block runs behind the stumps for Malik he is almost a rabbit. Thats what Aus did.

  • Mistry M on October 5, 2009, 16:58 GMT

    Can anyone explain why Pakistan, after winning the toss, chose to bat first when: 1. We have never been able to bat properly on bouncy pitches which Wanderers is known for 2. Every match played at this venue had been won by the team chasing. 3. Our strength is bowling, not batting. So why not play to our strenght first rather than scrambling at the end after putting ourselves behind the eight ball. 4. We had lost 5 of 6 (now 6 of 7) at Wanderers, with the only win being a struggle against the lowly WIs. I for one just knew we were in trouble as soon as the decision to bat was made!

  • ali_a on October 5, 2009, 16:20 GMT

    I watched last night the highlights of pak game against WI and I saw almost same kind of dismisals against NZ. If Umer Akmal had not saved the day against WI, we would have lost that match to WI B team, just like our Scotland loss in '07 Cup. I fail to understand that how come the same batting line up that worked in T20 cup became so bad in this cup. YK made lot of captaincy mistakes, 1. He should have rested himself against Aussie game. 2. Should have played Mishbah instead of Nazir. Should have come himself or sent Yousuf at No. 3. 3. Afridi needs to decide if he is going to be allrounder, batsman or just bowler. If bowler I would argue Pak would have better played four seamers here. Afr..big disappt. 4. Ppl who talk about dropping Yousuf should go back to Toqueer Zia's time post 2003- what did we gain by getting rid of senior players and youngsters? Had India gotten rid of Tendulukar or Dravid? How many young players you've tried that failed? 5. Lastly bad umpiring decisions

  • Imran Khan on October 5, 2009, 15:48 GMT

    simon taufel eported umar akmal for dissent, thats so pathetic, could he do so if some australian orenglish players showed dissent, bloody racist tafuel

  • imran on October 5, 2009, 15:37 GMT

    Lets think rationally guys,and not jump to kneejerk reactions,we Pakistani's always have so many different opinions and can't agree on anything. Its plain as day that batting is no good,can't rely on bowlers to perform magic every match,it doesn't happen -law of averages, you can't always play out of your skin,batsman don't so why should bowlers.Misbah is old and a no good one trick pony.Malik is so untalented and always looks struggling against good tight bowling,watch him bat he has no strokes.Nazir has made good starts so lets give him a proper fair run,you can't kick someone out just after a few matches it unsettles the team & the player.Lets give him a final but fair chance to proof himself.Ahmad Shahzad had a solid technique and Alam is good accumulator,Nasir Jamshed could be excellent lower down,or even Nazir if he flops at top.Razzaq's bowling is not good enough for 50overs and his batting is hit & miss, check his record. Aamer,U Akmal,M Asif,Ajaml,Afridi give me hope.

  • Ajmal K. on October 5, 2009, 15:00 GMT

    Its over. Its all over. There are too many question and too many doubts that I cant sleep with. I have seen Rana in English county cricket and he is absolutely pathetic in the final overs. In crunch times he cannot deliver and he cannot be trusted. His team does'nt. Why did we give him such a crucial over knowing his frailties. Younis should not have played. Why did he play with an injury. This can happen only in Pakistan where the player is bigger than the game and the Nation. What was yousuf doing. What did Afridi do ? I hate his smugness. He acts like he owns Pakistan. The guy has'nt delivered when it matters at all. Yousuf is history. Afridi is a flash in the pan. Our lives are so damn India centric. "Lets beat India and get beat by the Kiwis." We are winning battles and losing wars. Not enough we have stupid generals like Mush fooling us with Kargil misadventures that we have a cricket team that only wants to beat India. Shameful. Is there also an old angle to all this. A bookie one.

  • taufel on October 5, 2009, 14:49 GMT

    simon taufel is the most overrated umpire of the world and pak lost for his bad umpiring. And its the most important thing.

  • Rasheed on October 5, 2009, 14:28 GMT

    Naved instead of Razzak or Asif was the cause.The selection committee made us loose.One good thing is with Naved we would not have win with Aussies anyway. Naved gave more than 7 runs/per over with no wicket, Imagine Asif instead of Naved.

  • Faisal on October 5, 2009, 14:24 GMT

    Right Kamran...

    i am personally just heart broken....Pakistan had the ideal pitch, won the toss, had the perfect momentum going......why YK made a different strategy is beyond me......he over planned as far as i see it.....

    However, people who are talking about dropping Mohammad Yousuf are out of their minds.....he is the only guy who averages 40+ in your team! and you want to drop him!!! Wow, i can only laugh at people who are suggesting that.

    And even in this game had it not been the consolidation innings that Mo Yo played our batting would have crumbled to even a lower total. its just unfortunate that he couldn't get going to fix up his s/r.

    The real mistake was on YK's part by far, power play was not take when MO yO and Umar were playing or when Afridi came in..........it was a big mistake...

    Finally i understand that the catch YK dropped was crucial, but this game was not supposed to be this close.....Batting failed us and i only hold batsmen accountable for this loss.

  • taufel on October 5, 2009, 14:03 GMT

    I just cant understand why pak continue with these seniors and in every 15-20 matches they tend to performance once. People talk a lot abt rana but have they forgotten his spell against aus;only 1 run in 20 balls of death overs. He also shines with both bat and ball against lanka when he did get a chance in last 2 matches. U cant judge him after one bad game. Also dont bowl him with new ball.he is much better a choice with the older ball with his reverse swing, back of the hand slower ball and new ball should be taken by amir and asif. Why not bring umer akmal at no.3? He is technically sound, astute, nimblefooted and most importantly never slows the pace what guys like malik, yunus do in 9 out of 10 times.at this age of odi u need player who can counter attack.

  • Kapil on October 5, 2009, 13:58 GMT

    Contrary to what has been told by kamran I don't beleive Pakistan's performance was extra ordinary, they struggled against a weak WI, stuttered till India's bowlers lost the plot and same goes with their batsmen, also in the last league game same went for Aussies but they held on to put it across them. Then came the semi-final and so much was expected of them more so of their past showings against NZ in semi-finals but not this time. What a waste of batting powerplays and lack of thinking it straight and mind it I didn't mention out of 'BOX'. While this can be as simple as that when your best batsmen are at the crease it should be imperative that they be given the best use of powerplays to be utilised as to the contradictory use as shown by all the STUPID think tanks except Aus till now. Pakistan lost under the weight of expectations is what it might be felt but they aren't as good as they are made to beleived. Thanks...

  • Marlo on October 5, 2009, 13:55 GMT

    Dear Younis, no problem that you are out of form and I do recognise that you are a good motivator for your fellows BUT you can never come to even knee hight to Imran Khan in reading cricket and conducting captaincy. You make blunders. Not once but on regular basis. In T20 you gave an over to Fawad while you had Umar Gul with that spare over. Here you didnt avail the powerplay when batting line was dieing out.Choice of Rana and not Asif was extremely poor. So my dear you lost it for us, by dropping that catch, by playing with that broken finger, and by not taking that powerplay earlier. But honestly I am not angry at you as I hope you will learn and come to form and then why should I be angry on you with only 15 years of cricket when the Old man next to u with 60 years of cricket doesnt know nothing. I request you to think before every interview and plan as your talk on media is always a bit foolish as compared to other captains. Find some new things to say and be a bit philosofic.

  • Sufymast on October 5, 2009, 13:50 GMT

    Pakistan should learn from India how to field and have a right atitude.Out of 11 pakistani players only 2players were commited Umar Akmal and Ameer.Ameer is a young 17year old energietic player he should be give chance of captaining as Mahender singh Dhoni got for his abilty.And Akram and all senior players should no the meaning of leading from the front leading from the front describes Mahender singh dhoni and Ricky point players like Younis Khan they are just a waste of time,,, they should shown the way to test cricket not agressive game like 50overs and 20overs.Razak the great destroyer is not given a chance....TOO sad

  • waseem khan on October 5, 2009, 13:46 GMT

    Come on - the real issue is that we still can't bat on bouncy tracks! Had this game been played at Centurion Park our batsmen would have coped.

  • Bosco Martyres on October 5, 2009, 13:40 GMT

    In my opinion Pakistan cricket needs the following fine tuning: 1.Develop a cadre of opening batsmen 2. Have specialist batsmen for test and the other forms. 3. Find a good wicket keeper. Ofcourse some things can never be taught, such as common sense. For example, how could Mohammad Asif be omitted from the team? and If Younis Khan's poor batting and crucial dropped catch can be blamed on a hurt finger, why on earth was he plying in such an important game? Also the ineffective use of the batting power play reflects very poorly on Younis Khan's ability to strategize. Pakistan needs a captain who can THINK on his feet.

  • Shahid on October 5, 2009, 13:38 GMT

    Just to add, what the hell support staff and coach were doing when every follower on TV and Radio was cursing them for not availing the powerplay when it should have been. Do they know cricket hhhhhhhhh. Fire this old man Intekhab who after speniding 60 years in cricket on the highest level is not able think cricket, and give some feedback to the Mr. broken finger.

  • Shahid on October 5, 2009, 13:33 GMT

    READ IT. Younis dropped a catch wich my grand son of two wont miss, IT CAN HAPPEN. Younis is not scoring in ODIs for a very long time combined with the opners constantly putting the team under pressure, IT CAN HAPPEN. My grand mother always screamed at us that we should take bath before the time when there is no running water in tapes but Younis after 15 years of cricket can't find out to use powerplay while the show is still running but he waited for the 10th wicket to avail it just as he knew that they were the better batsmen then him and the other seniors, IT CAN HAPPEN. He played with a broken finger just as it wasn't cricket but some war where it counts as bravery, IT CAN HAPPEN as he is young, emotional and a Pakistani. He didn't use Said Ajmal(his best option against a western batsman) for his 10 overs before turning to Rana, CAN HAPPEN TOO as we can see the things differently BUT that what I couldn't take after all this is his words which put all the blame on poor bowling.

  • Saeed Raamay on October 5, 2009, 13:33 GMT

    Bowling Potential:

    Pak got great bowling potential and they should use it to max, I think Aamir and Asif their will be their Ace frontline new ball bowlers with Gul/Rana second change and supported by Tanvir/Rao/Shoaib if needed.

    Ajmal/Afridi/Danish in spin and

    Razzaq/Afridi/Malik in alrounder category.

    They need to have a few top batsmend who perform come rain and shine. on average out of 5 top batsmen if 3 do not perform you simply can not win the match, FULL STOP. Our batsmen should be given the reasonable freeness to play according to their potential and style. Thats way they gonna score. As in Semi Final, Nazir was too scared of playing uppishly and freely and he gave his wicket, If he been playing according to his natural talent he may have pulled that delivery to thirdman for 4.

    regards.

  • Saeed Raamay on October 5, 2009, 13:25 GMT

    Reasons why Pak lost!

    <1> Bad captaincy by Younas, he is a average player and an average captain, with out innovative mind, scrumble to pressure, do not take bold decision, he is clearly unable to use this talented side to its max potential.

    <2> Umpiring decisions - during both innings umpires gave small decisions like giving wide to big ones giving out in favour of NZ. U can beat a team but can not beat umpires, FULL STOP.

    <3> Wrong team selection - look final match, Vettori is injured and he is out, why can't Younis do this, He cost us Australia match and now Semi Final. Misbah was in excellent form in this tournament, he did made reasonable score in warmups and in two games then why not played him instead of himself. I hate his unreasonable smiles and empty rhetoics.

    Good points:

    Team trying to play according to some gameplan, though they hardly did it in past hope they will master this ability.

    Bowling Potential:

    Continued .............

  • Mudassar Rana on October 5, 2009, 12:55 GMT

    it was a sad loss; taufel's one decision knocked the stuffing out of pakistani batting. this however should not detract of our own failings. malik, afridi, younis, rana failed miserably with the bat. with rana and maliks wicket being the most infuriating. misbah should have been retained ahead of malik and asif ahead of rana.

    something overlooked has been the ploy of vettori the day before saying they would keep a close eye on gul. Its a shame that these winners of the spirit of cricket awards are allowed freely to cast aspersions on good bowlers.

    for the longer formats of the game the coaching staff need to develop our batsmen to ensure this rebuilding continues.

    on a bright note - full marks to aamer whose attitude is first class and skill is superb.

  • AQ Azhar on October 5, 2009, 12:25 GMT

    Apart from poor batting and feilding display with many flaws in strategy and planning. Still Pakistan fought very well and they were almost there till 45th over. It was not Pakistans good day some poor umpiring decisions , I dont know why simon was not giving the plumb LBWs in contrast to what had given to Umar Akmal .... it really changed the tone of Game. Bad Luck Pakistan !!

  • salil kamra on October 5, 2009, 12:01 GMT

    i think it isn't surprising to see pakistan losing to new zealand in the semi final.In the champions trophy balance have never been in pakistan's favour.not only once but it has happend thrice that pakistan have lost in semi finals of champions trophy and twice to new zealand.i think pakistan weren't at their best in the semi final and they did'nt deserve to be in the final.the way they lost to Australia in the crucial encounter in order to ouster India from the tournament proved too much expensive for them.pakistan's batting was'nt was at it's best in the tournament except against India with whom they always want to prove their mettle specially players like Shoib Malik,Younis Khan and Afridi.performing better against India doesn't mean that you are the best team in the tournament.

  • faisal on October 5, 2009, 11:00 GMT

    I personaly think imran/kamran is a good opening partnership as they barely waste balls. They are given the license so they must hit but shoeb malik or uninform yunis was not a good choice for the most important position at no-3,in big match you can gamble with afridi because lately afridi is not only boom boom but also a responsible accumulator. I am always a big fan of misbah and where the blue hell is razzak? I think for semi final asif as he was fit was a better choice ahead of rana.

  • Robert on October 5, 2009, 10:52 GMT

    Well, I'm not going to be too harsh on Khan for not knowing when to take the power play. So far the batting powerplay seems to be the most under utilized at this time.

    Think it's fair to say that the only one that's managed to get it right was McCullum when he decided to take it while he and Ryder were set. Good going, pity the other captains haven't been able to figure that you're best off taking the batting powerplay when your batsmen are set and not simply at the end.

  • Muazzam on October 5, 2009, 10:34 GMT

    Younus Khan,,,,knows nothing about Captaincy. He won the T20 Cup due to Afridi,Ajmal,Amir & Malik Performances. Lost series against South Africa,Srilanka,Australia,England & now CT shows his abilities. His own performance is ZERO. I don't think he can survive his place into the team inthe presence of Umar Akmal,Yousaf,Malik & Misbah.........In 3 matches of Champions Trophy Pakistan unable to get even 40 runs in last powerplay shows his abilities. In Semi when Umar Akmal & Yousaf was setteled why not he take Power Play?. Or in 40th over when there was Afridi & Umar Akmal?. I think he save Power play for Umar Gul & Tale order. Asif's performance against Australia was great why not he choose him for semi?. Pakistan must need 2 or 3 professional opperners. They need Razaq,Yasir Hameed or can train Muhammad Aamir for opening. He can perform better than Nazir etc. Hassan Raza about whome once Steve waugh Said he will from World's best & intelligent Captains,PCB lost in politics.

  • Sharjeel Riaz on October 5, 2009, 10:28 GMT

    In my opinion a team whose batting failed in 3 out of 4 matches does not deserve to be in the final.However after the Australian match team selection was the biggest dilemma for Younis. The one innings that the captain aspired from Imran did nt come and so was his own outing with the bat.Considering Rana a decent batsmen was a mistake and that may sound as a logic to recall Razzak or Tanvir or may be find a better talent. At the same time another factor for the loss was the ball hit out of park by Taylor that had started to reverse. Younis and co need to do more homework on opposition as vettori has a limited array of shots which were not blocked by suitable field placings. Remember Waugh telling Gibbs bout the drop in WC 99. I thought that Younis just dropped the champions trophy when he missed the sitter. However the team spirit was evident and the boys fought well and the clinical finishing for me is missing due lack of planning and analytical approach to cater the opposition

  • Faraz on October 5, 2009, 10:24 GMT

    Nice article. I believe the factors behind Pakistan's defeat in semin-final were inconsistent middle order batting and few bad umpiring decisions. Simon Taufel is one of the best umpires around, but anyways everyone has his bad day. There is no need to fume over it. This guy Umar Akmal looks very promising and should be allowed to bat a little higher in the batting order. Its high time to give the likes of Ahmed Shahzad, Nasir Jamshed, Imran Farhat, Yasir Hameed, and Fawad Alam consistent chances to settle down in Pakistan team. Guys like Yousuf, Misbah, and Younis have may be two to three more years left, and we should look forward. I believe dropping Abdul Razzaq from The Pakistan Squad for Champion's trophy was also a big mistake. We needed someone down the order who could have fully utilized the batting powerplay. Anyways, I believe overall Pakistan played well. There are some problems that need to be sorted out and Pakistan team can develop a perfect winning combination.

  • Rauf on October 5, 2009, 10:21 GMT

    Pakistan made some mistakes on the field this time that they did not make against India or Aus. Bowling wasn't as crisp as expected. Rana and Gul were out of their mark. Middle order did not do well either. But the credit should go to NZ. Unlike T20, they were prepared for us this time and played our bowlers exactly the way it should have been played. We were about 30 to 40 runs short which hurt us at the end.

    Good new things to take from this tournament. Aamer and Ajmal have made their place in the team as wicket takers. PCB must protect these youngsters from going wayward off the field. Maybe Waseem can polish Aamer a bit more and what a bowler he can turn into. U. Akmal gives us another option in the top order. Asif should be slowly braught back into the fold. There is no replacement for his style of bowling. I think Pak has all the right cards for the WC in 2011 only if we prepare them in advance and keep them away from any scandals.

    Well done Pak. Keep it up.

  • Feroz Sharief on October 5, 2009, 10:16 GMT

    I believe that the selection of the playing has something to do with the result of semi but again it was very hard task for Younis we cannot blame him he was working according to the plan & preparations of the team. But still I feel that when Misbah was among the runs v/s australia he should have given him a chance in semi he is a big match player could have done well on this track. Same for Asif he bowled well v/s aus specially the last spell and should have been picked ahead of Naved (even after considering his performance) this was a big match Pak needed their experienced hands & were missing or out of touch like Yousef. Again the drop catch by younis cost them the match I believe.

  • Usama Ata on October 5, 2009, 9:24 GMT

    i would only say that Pakistan lost due to pathetic Batting, i wonder when hole left by Inzamam departure will be filled, M.Yousuf does,nt seem to have enough to fill it, yet there were positives Umar Akmal is a rare Batting talent and we want authorities to handle and nourish him carefully,I hope he doesn't become another Misbah or even we dont want him to become another yousuf who is good but lack that pinch which Inzamam had, at such ocassion i miss Inzamam really what a burden he was shouldering!!!

  • Gohar on October 5, 2009, 9:01 GMT

    Kamran, Well this is a disappointing end of a good run!! we are touch short of becoming champion, but i see some positive outcomes!!Umar Akmal, Mohammed Amir, Saeed Ajmal and return of Mohammed Asif. Now they have to align team again and try something in middle order. We have bunch of talented players in Pakistan. Do try them against series of Newzland and also give some dose of Captaincy to YK, on some areas where he lacks. He need to be a bit aggressive not too much but a bit then his current. Finally, i was surprised when they drop Asif after a successful return, I know it was a difficult decision but you know A Captain must know his ACES!! Finally, Held your heads high.And wished them a Happy Winter Ahead!!

  • S.Fawad hussain on October 5, 2009, 8:56 GMT

    I think paksitan lose because of a dropped catch by The Captain YOUNIS KHAN ,and two bad overs By rana naved-ul-hassan and Umar gul.......

  • srivathsan on October 5, 2009, 8:38 GMT

    It is really disappointing for pak.fans in particular & others in general.It is high time that some more juniors are inducted.As can be seen, it is aamer & umar who have stood out not only in CT but also srilanka series. Had pakistan not tried them,they would have remained unknown yo the cricketing world. who knows how many such talented are rotting without getting an oppurtunity ? There is no point scoring 30runs & allowing 40runs to pass by in the field.It is time to experiment & bring in more youngsters so that a well knit unit is formed by 2011.The performance as such is good & the team deserves applaud not withstanding the miss out.

  • Prakash on October 5, 2009, 8:30 GMT

    I would have loved a Pak Auss final. Alas not meant to be. But everybody has off days on the field and for Pak unfortunately it happened againt NZ. I am mightily impressed by Aamir and wonder hw Pak Produces so many talented fast bowlers while Indian Bhais Produce Bowlers who bowl 120 Km Max... Well done...

  • S.Fawad hussain on October 5, 2009, 8:29 GMT

    I think paksitan lose because of a dropped catch by The Captain YOUNIS KHAN ,and two bad overs By rana naved-ul-hassan and Umar gul.......

  • Jawed Saleem, Karachi on October 5, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    Pakistan lost due to : 1) “improper (or no) planning” by “(brainless) think-tanks” ! They failed to read the pitch (minefield)- by batting first, committed the 'cardinal sin'! 2) Inability of Pak batsmen to tackle the “bouncing deliveries”! Pls. recall the rising balls thudding into gloves/makers names (ask Kamran, Imran etc.) ! Wonder if Inti know why - prior to matches on bouncy tracks, during batting sessions Woolmer employed the “marble slab” ?

    Other factors : - Out of form Younis (with injury) should not have played any game. - 4-pronged pace attack would ve been appropriate. - Umpiring decisions went against Pak (Umar’s lbw halted the imminent thrust & Rana’s “reversing yorker” was destined for the middle stump) – but don’t get sore :– its part of the game!

    Full marks to "depleted" NZ – for capitalizing on “gifted advantage” of bowling first, fielding/catching has bn their strong point and took control in 20 overs.

    Dont forget "marble slab" b4 OZ tour !

  • Ajaz Quddusi on October 5, 2009, 7:57 GMT

    Another Batting Failure. Please contact Javed Miandad who had predicted that his brilliant coaching had resolved all the technical issues and top order had become a run making machine. Unfortunately, the claims were good till our batters faced a stiff opposition and that's all.

  • Daaniyal on October 5, 2009, 7:42 GMT

    can someone please explain to me that WHY oh WHY oh WHY is that unflashy gem unearthed in the form of Aamir (or Ahmed) Shahzad who was tried as an opener in the Pak v Aus ODI series in the UAE not given a chance?????

    The man clearly had the head, heart and something resembling a technique. The last of which Imran Nazir doesnt even know the name off!

    I hope the others commenting on this board remember that little Shahzad guy.

  • Adarsh on October 5, 2009, 7:38 GMT

    At times cricket writers camouflage deficiency amidst euphoria of a victory against arch rivals.Pakistan cricket would do well to take stock of situation rather than going over the top about the bowling attack. Exhibit:1 So called glorious victory against India was set up by batsmen and was almost lost by bowlers had Gambhir or Raina not lost their senses and rest of batting line up hadnt forzen. Dollies of wide/no-balls and free hits after free hits were thrown by two best "ODI bowlers" Umar Gul and Rana Naved.Exhibit 2: Crunch moment of Semis, NZ under pressure and what the best bowling attack in world delivers- Wwo no-balls in same over which releases all the pressure and then the best death bbowler in the world delivers length delivery spanked for six . If Pak fans are satisfied by the performance of their team. God Bless them! Remmeber they meekily surrenderd in Sri Lanka, almost lost to 2nd string WI, lost the plot against Aussies and almost ruined the match against India

  • Billybob on October 5, 2009, 7:31 GMT

    Pakistan needs to sort its batting out. That's what lets the team down, they are a good fielding team and a great bowling team but at the end of the day they just don't score enough runs. As for all the comments about Simon Taufel, I saw the replay like everyone else and yes he got it wrong but the truth is he has been the best umpire in the world now for quite some time. Any Pakistani complaining about biased umpiring need to have a think about why we have neutral umpires in international cricket now. It was because of biased and corrupt umpires from Pakistan and Indian that caused all the problems so as the old saying goes, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

  • MJA on October 5, 2009, 7:16 GMT

    Despite the loss and the disappointing exit from the championship, I am happy with the team after a long, long time. They are showing some fighting spirit and are playing as a team. Serious issues with batting need attention but overall, it is still a very promising team.. especially with current and future inclusion of promising new players. The bowling is fine. Wishing a bright future to the greenshirts!

  • omar hussain on October 5, 2009, 7:15 GMT

    Yes Pakistan should leave for home with their pride intact and wiser for the defeat.Boldness is something they must retrieve,one thought with men like Younis,Kamran,Afridi and Malik it was always there.Another is planning:NZ bowlers bowled to a well-thought- out plan using tight line and length and required short pitching to contain our batsmen and then to use the drop and run tactics against our volatile and quick tempered bowlers.Boldness also require taking a risk.After the mauling he took against India Gul should have given way to Asif.Rana is always liable to give away runs when he has a off day.I think Pakistan should now think seriously about having different squads for Tests and ODIs.Younis,Yousaf,Misbah are unsuitable for the latter.Afridi should take over for ODIs and 20/20 and youngsters like Fawad Alam,Jamshed,Jahanzaib,Manzoor,RAUF given the chance to come in.This will also reduce players get stale and with the hectic schedule Pakistan have on the way this is most urgent.

  • Dr. Mubahir Hanif on October 5, 2009, 6:52 GMT

    Assalamoalikum! kami bhai! Your write up about middle overs and powerplay is true for any team. In my views, the decision of Umar Akmal LBW and the drop catch by younis khan were two vital blows in pakistans defeat. Some how Simon Taufel who has been ICC best umpire for 4 years erred this time. I am not saying he is a racist but you will agree that it was big decsion that costed us the match and the champions trophy, he should apologize to Pakistan. And 2nd, younis ahd taped his finger and had fielded harder balls earlier, why go with crocodile fingers?very bad instincts. It was this very time against Australia that things started switching, it was 39.2nd ball and Eliott was at 42 then looking rusty and damn slow. His wicket meant , a kind of panic. Anyways, its gone, its over. The only positive is that we have beaten India comprehensively and this deed will save the team from the warm welcome of GANDA ANDAS AND TAMATARS back home.Peace

  • Zeeshan Ahmed Siddiqui on October 5, 2009, 6:48 GMT

    Dear Kamran bhai, now we again lost another match. I think there were some mistakes by our captain.

    1. Excluding Misbah and Aasif 2. Lost his wicket cheaply 3. Catch dropped by him. 4. Power Play at the end 5. When Ajmal and Gul were doing better bowling, he should have continued them. Before 42 overs Ajmal overs should be ended, later on when introduced him, match had gone from our hand. 6. Bringing spinners so late as they always have a problem to tackle spinners. 7. If he injured why he played match, instead of him, Misbah could play.

    Mistake by Umpires 1.Wrong decision in case of Umar. 2. Two clear LBW of them, mistakenly not given by them.

    If they had problems with spinner, we should introduced them after 12 overs from one end and if we were getting success then Afridi from another end, Very soon then introduced Shoaib.

    Our team is not taking lesson from their experience The way the seniors got out,is not satisfactory at international level.

  • Ammar Wasif on October 5, 2009, 6:07 GMT

    In my opinion, pakistan did play very well, some wrong decisions and dropped catches did not do well for Pakistan, but overall Pakistan's was a good performance in this trophy. at least they lost with dignity.

  • jilani on October 5, 2009, 5:38 GMT

    This is the first time in YEARS I felt confident about Pakistan's chances. And lo and behold, that was not meant to be.

    I think, I am begining to enjoy the Kamran/Imran combo. They are giving a 40 run starts and I think it will get better as they get used. Pakistan should in future opt for a opening pair powerplay because so many times, these guys get caught hitting high. Conversly any time the first pair gets set, power play should be called in.

    You are going to hit out of the park in the last 10 anyhow no matter what. And most of the time, your best batsmen are already gone, playing far too few over the top hits.

    Something to think about.

    Also Navid squadered a chance to shine by being to erratic. There has to be some control over these guys. How could be the bowlers be so erratic?

    -jilani

  • Mohammad Aslam KWT on October 5, 2009, 5:34 GMT

    Of course Umar Akmal is lesson for seniors to stay on the wicket and hit the lose ball and make singels into double whereas our players donot take easy single.The coach sould teach players to take all sigles which will make bowlers and fielders panic.Power plays should have been taken earlier.Captain should change his batting postion as he has been failure for a long time.Afraidi should go No.3 Malik 4 Yousuf 5 Umar 6 and then Younis.Or according to situation of the run rate batting order should be changed.It was wrong decsion to give bowling to Omar Gul instead should have give to Naved.Younus catch drop and Omar Gul change was turning point of the game.Last but not the least the PCB should take action against such rubbish empiring and should not be afraid to ICC to fight for our rights.Empire was main culprit for our defeat otherwise we must be playing final today.ANYWAY GOOD LUCK PAKISTAN FOR COMING SEASONS AND TOURNAMENTS.PAKISTAN ZINDA BAD.

  • Eesa on October 5, 2009, 5:26 GMT

    Very happy with their performance. Played as a unit and with pride. Winning and losing is just part of the fun.

  • CanadianFan on October 5, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    You got 2 things right - the first, about the middle order not doing the job they are supposed to, and the 2nd is the utilization of the batting power play.

    However, I don't know if this was such a blow or a shock. At least the team fought back hard, really hard - throughout they tournament they've done that. They showed great spirit in the previous match against Australia, not giving up till the last ball. And the same happened in this match - they fought back till the very end really. NZ was just too good that day.

    And that is the main difference I see between the team under younis khan's captaincy, and the team under the captaincy of whoever else over the last few yrs. They don't give up anymore! And they can keep holding their heads up high because of that!

  • marghub on October 5, 2009, 4:39 GMT

    pakistan pay the price because of failiar of top order....open the ining with imran is a big mistake he is club cricketer he must be kicked out he is just like lottery... if afridi open the inning pakisatn can use powerplay very good and misbah also inducted in the team and middle order ultimatley strong... ommission of razzaq is horriable after umar akmal pakisatn must have a dangerous hitter they do mistake and pay the price for it..Asif is a match winner bolwer and must play in big games like semi final if he is fit and availabe...in batting power play yunus use ajmal in very first over was also a big mistake world cup is very near if pakistan change opning pair frequently thats not good for the team..

  • Qamar Abbas Sipra on October 5, 2009, 4:17 GMT

    Dear Kamran, you are absolutely right. Our team is not learning from its own experience and from the other teams. The way our senior batsmen are approaching the one day game the team can hardly won 1 out of 10 matches from a good team. They really waste a lot of time in the middle over’s and leave the team in a big whole, once in 10 games they shine and we won. We won a few more games only because of exceptional talent and quality bowling. In this very match at the toss our captain said any thing more than 200 will give us a chance to defend on the other hand the captain said any thing less than 300 would be chase able on this wicket. I mean it is a huge difference in reading the wicket and approaching the game between two teams. We hope the management appoints some young innovative person as a coaching staff.

  • Abde-Ali Bohra on October 5, 2009, 3:46 GMT

    Well, to start with no team wins all the matches, but Pakistan is a team which mostly looses itself. Pakistan for years has not been able to sort out opening pair problems, guys like imran nazir & i would also mention kamran akmal has averages of just 25 runs per innings, so what do u expect from them. This area needs players who can be averaging 40 plus, otherwise we will be always playing with 9 players. Now in this tournament younis khan was just out of form, with the bat, simply hopeless, and so he showed in the final. Even a captain should drop himself, if he is not performing, afridi could have been the captain. But no, this is Pakistan. Mr. Malik, never ever has been able to play new ball, younis send him again, because he himself was not in form, and resulted in pak being 4 down immediately, what would have happened had umar akmal not performed, all out for say 88 runs. Pakistan, bowling with saeed ajmal, afridi, mohammad amir should remain unchange, and others be rotated.

  • openinBatsman on October 5, 2009, 3:39 GMT

    nice short article..... the best two teams are ioin d final..simple :-)

  • Amer Khan on October 5, 2009, 3:22 GMT

    This isn't the first time in recent memory that Pakistan's batsmen have let their team down when it matters the most. Not only did they waste the middle overs, as usual, but they threw away their wickets during the end. Afridi, in particular, has made no contribution to the batting, although we all know that he can. Its time to get out with the old, i.e., Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Misbah, and give younger batsmen a chance. Surely, new guys like Shahzaib al Hasan, Fawad Alam, and Nasir Jamshed can't do much worse than the batsmen we have right now...

  • Vikas on October 5, 2009, 3:19 GMT

    I am an Indian. I feel very very sorry for those Pak friends who were showing their happiness and relief once India is crashed out of the tournament as if Pakistan has achieved every thing in cricket and other area’s :-). I am also too sad for such people.

    I think Pakistan needs some major changes in their batting department. Top 3 must have 35+ batting average and 80+ strike rate. I don't understand the use of Imran Nazir, whose even 1st class batting average is just 26 around. Karman Akmal might be successfull once in a while in opening but not frequently, hence seems to be useless in top order.Afridi and Umar Akmal can be utilised better way in the top order. Captain also doesn't look good always. Shoaib Malik only bat well against India and that's only on the batting paradise. I think by getting few very promissing youngsters and taking tough decision to drop few seniors, Pakistan can become among top ODI teams in the world.

  • Muhammedh Tami on October 5, 2009, 1:39 GMT

    PAK lose because 1. Simon Taufel and other umpiring mistakes, why ICC doesnt allow 3rd Umpires decision or interven in such Umar Akmal or other LBW decisions?

    2. Batting order confusion, why dont dedicate first 2 wickets only for pinch hitting to score runs only no saving of wickets

    3. Bad day as Younis missed the catch, Amer didnt try for a catch, etc.

    Overall the team's performance was satisfactory...need to be consistent...

  • Irfan on October 5, 2009, 0:40 GMT

    This game was Pakistan's to loose, and they just did that! I seldom rely on the predictions of cricket writers but I do value their analysis. What's sensible is most often logical. It's originally Pak's game to keep the scoreboard ticking in the middle overs and go for big ones in the last ten and they have done that on hundreds of occasion with the precision of a laser printer. So I absolutely don't agree with you Kamran. They lost because of their inability to execute the power play. While, on the other side of 30 over mark during NZ land's innings; with Pak bowlers bowling as impressively as they did I could feel it in my bones that something is about to happen. A difficult catch, a run out an excellent piece of bowling any of which might end with a wicket came and went. They couldn't be capitalized which sealed the fate in the favor of NZ land. Not to to take away credit from them but if those chances were availed the result would have been different

  • zahid on October 5, 2009, 0:12 GMT

    once again my only comment to a kamran abbasi column is 'spot on' and well said. One thing i would add is to support the criticism of the Pakistan think tank by Rameez Raja. The only consistent performers recently have been youngsters like umar akmal and mohammed aamer. It is time to ditch the old (yousuf and misbah) and bring in the new so Pakistan can build for the 2011 World Cup

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  • zahid on October 5, 2009, 0:12 GMT

    once again my only comment to a kamran abbasi column is 'spot on' and well said. One thing i would add is to support the criticism of the Pakistan think tank by Rameez Raja. The only consistent performers recently have been youngsters like umar akmal and mohammed aamer. It is time to ditch the old (yousuf and misbah) and bring in the new so Pakistan can build for the 2011 World Cup

  • Irfan on October 5, 2009, 0:40 GMT

    This game was Pakistan's to loose, and they just did that! I seldom rely on the predictions of cricket writers but I do value their analysis. What's sensible is most often logical. It's originally Pak's game to keep the scoreboard ticking in the middle overs and go for big ones in the last ten and they have done that on hundreds of occasion with the precision of a laser printer. So I absolutely don't agree with you Kamran. They lost because of their inability to execute the power play. While, on the other side of 30 over mark during NZ land's innings; with Pak bowlers bowling as impressively as they did I could feel it in my bones that something is about to happen. A difficult catch, a run out an excellent piece of bowling any of which might end with a wicket came and went. They couldn't be capitalized which sealed the fate in the favor of NZ land. Not to to take away credit from them but if those chances were availed the result would have been different

  • Muhammedh Tami on October 5, 2009, 1:39 GMT

    PAK lose because 1. Simon Taufel and other umpiring mistakes, why ICC doesnt allow 3rd Umpires decision or interven in such Umar Akmal or other LBW decisions?

    2. Batting order confusion, why dont dedicate first 2 wickets only for pinch hitting to score runs only no saving of wickets

    3. Bad day as Younis missed the catch, Amer didnt try for a catch, etc.

    Overall the team's performance was satisfactory...need to be consistent...

  • Vikas on October 5, 2009, 3:19 GMT

    I am an Indian. I feel very very sorry for those Pak friends who were showing their happiness and relief once India is crashed out of the tournament as if Pakistan has achieved every thing in cricket and other area’s :-). I am also too sad for such people.

    I think Pakistan needs some major changes in their batting department. Top 3 must have 35+ batting average and 80+ strike rate. I don't understand the use of Imran Nazir, whose even 1st class batting average is just 26 around. Karman Akmal might be successfull once in a while in opening but not frequently, hence seems to be useless in top order.Afridi and Umar Akmal can be utilised better way in the top order. Captain also doesn't look good always. Shoaib Malik only bat well against India and that's only on the batting paradise. I think by getting few very promissing youngsters and taking tough decision to drop few seniors, Pakistan can become among top ODI teams in the world.

  • Amer Khan on October 5, 2009, 3:22 GMT

    This isn't the first time in recent memory that Pakistan's batsmen have let their team down when it matters the most. Not only did they waste the middle overs, as usual, but they threw away their wickets during the end. Afridi, in particular, has made no contribution to the batting, although we all know that he can. Its time to get out with the old, i.e., Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Misbah, and give younger batsmen a chance. Surely, new guys like Shahzaib al Hasan, Fawad Alam, and Nasir Jamshed can't do much worse than the batsmen we have right now...

  • openinBatsman on October 5, 2009, 3:39 GMT

    nice short article..... the best two teams are ioin d final..simple :-)

  • Abde-Ali Bohra on October 5, 2009, 3:46 GMT

    Well, to start with no team wins all the matches, but Pakistan is a team which mostly looses itself. Pakistan for years has not been able to sort out opening pair problems, guys like imran nazir & i would also mention kamran akmal has averages of just 25 runs per innings, so what do u expect from them. This area needs players who can be averaging 40 plus, otherwise we will be always playing with 9 players. Now in this tournament younis khan was just out of form, with the bat, simply hopeless, and so he showed in the final. Even a captain should drop himself, if he is not performing, afridi could have been the captain. But no, this is Pakistan. Mr. Malik, never ever has been able to play new ball, younis send him again, because he himself was not in form, and resulted in pak being 4 down immediately, what would have happened had umar akmal not performed, all out for say 88 runs. Pakistan, bowling with saeed ajmal, afridi, mohammad amir should remain unchange, and others be rotated.

  • Qamar Abbas Sipra on October 5, 2009, 4:17 GMT

    Dear Kamran, you are absolutely right. Our team is not learning from its own experience and from the other teams. The way our senior batsmen are approaching the one day game the team can hardly won 1 out of 10 matches from a good team. They really waste a lot of time in the middle over’s and leave the team in a big whole, once in 10 games they shine and we won. We won a few more games only because of exceptional talent and quality bowling. In this very match at the toss our captain said any thing more than 200 will give us a chance to defend on the other hand the captain said any thing less than 300 would be chase able on this wicket. I mean it is a huge difference in reading the wicket and approaching the game between two teams. We hope the management appoints some young innovative person as a coaching staff.

  • marghub on October 5, 2009, 4:39 GMT

    pakistan pay the price because of failiar of top order....open the ining with imran is a big mistake he is club cricketer he must be kicked out he is just like lottery... if afridi open the inning pakisatn can use powerplay very good and misbah also inducted in the team and middle order ultimatley strong... ommission of razzaq is horriable after umar akmal pakisatn must have a dangerous hitter they do mistake and pay the price for it..Asif is a match winner bolwer and must play in big games like semi final if he is fit and availabe...in batting power play yunus use ajmal in very first over was also a big mistake world cup is very near if pakistan change opning pair frequently thats not good for the team..

  • CanadianFan on October 5, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    You got 2 things right - the first, about the middle order not doing the job they are supposed to, and the 2nd is the utilization of the batting power play.

    However, I don't know if this was such a blow or a shock. At least the team fought back hard, really hard - throughout they tournament they've done that. They showed great spirit in the previous match against Australia, not giving up till the last ball. And the same happened in this match - they fought back till the very end really. NZ was just too good that day.

    And that is the main difference I see between the team under younis khan's captaincy, and the team under the captaincy of whoever else over the last few yrs. They don't give up anymore! And they can keep holding their heads up high because of that!