Australia 2009-10 January 29, 2010

Will to win in rare supply

As another dismal chapter closes on Pakistan's senior tour of Australia, another exciting one is about to start for the U19s
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As another dismal chapter closes on Pakistan's senior tour of Australia, another exciting one is about to start for the U19s. There have been few redeeming features of Pakistan's cricket since the failure in the Sydney Test, and Mohammad Yousuf's deluded assertion that his team have performed better than teams of the past is a hollow boast.

The evidence to disprove him has beamed to every corner of the globe. Unfortunately, Yousuf's dread philospohies have alarmed supporters and undoubtedly infected his troops. Mohammad Yousuf's Pakistan have lacked the will to win. They have settled for second best and been content in their failure.

Across the Tasman Sea, a young Pakistan side has shown how the exact opposite attitude can help you exceed expectations. Pakistan U19s may not even be one of the top two teams in the tournament but their spirit, as epitomised by Hammad Azam, has been refreshing. For demonstrating such will to win, Hammad deserves his opportunity in the Twenty20 against the senior Australian team.

Nobody expected Pakistan to beat Australia in the Tests or One-Day Series but the manner of defeat has been unacceptable. Pakistan's consistent success at U19 level over the last decade and more is testament to the talent in the pipeline. What happens in senior cricket that squanders that potential?

Many Cricinfo readers will know that the answers are several and reasonably obvious yet the PCB is unable to pinpoint them and deal with them effectively. Pakistan cricket can blame many factors out of its control both at home and abroad, however, it is far from getting its own house in any sort of order.

There is an urgent need to restore some pride. This series is lost and the team in a rut. Can there be any harm in Yousuf resting for the final match and allowing Shahid Afridi to try a different approach that better suits the Pakistani temperament? With any luck, Hammad and the U19s might once again remind the seniors how it's done.

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  • sane cricket fan on February 2, 2010, 22:09 GMT

    I do not understand the uproar behind the losses of the pak team in australia. the team is not a good team, people need to accept that, australian team does not make silly mistakes. look at the number of dropped catches, inconsistent play.

    Look at the ashes 2006-7 results, england lost 0-5, nobody was crying that world will end. its just a game. for example everyone in windies knows their team is not that good (compared to past), so they appreciate whatever wins they can get. can the fans of pak cricket not do so.

  • billybob on January 31, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    First of all the u19s, normally when I read stuff Pakistani players have said in the media it is usually humble even when they are winning. But all I read prior to the final was how good they were and that they would thrash a talentless Australian side. Whoops, that didn't go to plan. Choked I believe the word. The worst thing the senior side ever did was sack Geoff Lawson, he is one tough bugger who did some good for the team. Problem is the Pakistan team is lazy, like the Indians. They need someone tough who can install some self belief in them. But they are too soft and don't like being told what to do, especially by an infidel westerner. In Australia, no matter how talented a player is, when the coach says jump, the players say how high coach. Harden up Pakistan, even if its only to beat your arrogant mates the Indians.

  • M KHAN OF LONDON on January 31, 2010, 13:31 GMT

    If you see above you will see i suggested Afridi to be captain.

    For a while I thought he was confirming my opinion.

    My thoughts now - HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE

    or - He was just hungry and we should give him some apples.

  • shahid on January 31, 2010, 13:22 GMT

    this pakistan team is worse than bangla desh team,they unable to complete their fifty over cota in this series,i am guessing in future bangla desh series they will surely lost a test match,does any one think that they cant play more than three session in test match,most worse bating show by the pakistani team in recsent past, i have no hope they should band this team and give them gulli danda to play that will suit them.

  • Ravi Shanker on January 31, 2010, 13:20 GMT

    In the last ten years, the test matches head to head of India and Pakistan against Australia is 10-10 and 12-0 respectively. India beating Australia twice in their own backyard in Adelaide and Perth. This India did when Australia was bulldozing every other international team. Lesson to be learnt GOOD QUALITY BATTING. Technique and Pakistani batsmen are strangers to each other. India was the one and only international team which consistently challenged and beat the Australians mainly because of the technique of their batsmen Rahul, Sachin,Laxman, Gambhir and last but not the least Virendar Sehwag. Please take some time out and look at the records of all these five players. Mcgrath, Gillespie and Shane Warne too could not shake the Indian batsmen. People say its easy to win in your own backyard. How many international teams were able to beat Australia using home advantage? So, PCB please set up a system of batting coaches to inject technique into Pakistani batsmen at the domestic level.

  • Reza Thahir (Sri LAnka) on January 31, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    this would be my team.

    1. Shahid Afridi (C) 2. Kamran Akmal 3. Shaoib Malik 4. Younis Khan 5. Umar Akmal 6. Misbah ul Haq 7. Fawad Alam 8. Muhammad Amer 9. Shoaib Akthar 10.Muhammad Asif 11.Saeed Ajmal

    Afridi the captain should open with kamran akmal & exploit the powerplays & should get a good start, afridi should always bat as an opener in the shorter version of the game. malik has played his best as a no.3 batsmen, younis can use his experience at no.4, umar should increase the tempo of the innings with his exciting batting, misbah & alam are there to rescue in case of a batting slump as usually happens for pak. Amer & akthar too can handle the bat.

    Bowling with Asif & Amer probably pakistan has the best opening bowlers in world cricket. shoaib akthar's pace is ideally suited to bowl at first change as the other fast bowlers have failed in GUL, RANA, RAO have failed. Afridi & AJmal will do the spin & supported by malik. so its 3 fast bowlers & 2 spinners.

  • saty on January 31, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    Yes Kamran, Afridi took the the captaincy for 5th odi and shows the world his new invention of chewing the ball to forced the victory towards pakistan. Unfortunatly umpire and the law didn't allow him to continue his new discovery and Aussie hand over final blow to Pakistan.

  • sanjeev on January 31, 2010, 12:48 GMT

    @Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar look at your scores 3-0 loss in test and 5-0 drubbing against aussies...where is your afridi and please dont compare afridi with sehwag, sehwag has 16 test centuries in tests and well he has scored runs in England, Aus, SA, WI, SL and even Pakistan where he scored triple century get ur facts right before opening ur month!!!!

  • Rauf on January 31, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I just got thru watching the 5th ODI and was pleased with Pak performance and Afridi's captainship until he was shown attempting to eat the ball at few occasions like an apple... obviously to alter the state of the ball. This is so pathetic and lame and to top it off, he was the captain. It was so obvious that he can't come up with a credible excuse. I am now glad Pak lost the 5th match and they should throw the book at Afridi for pulling a stunt like that. He should be banned for atleast five matches. If you can't win a match on your skills alone then be man enough to loose with dignity.

    I AM SO MAD AT THIS!!

  • muzz on January 31, 2010, 12:37 GMT

    Selection wrong again - why dropped Kamran in 1 dayer - means one less Batsman/Khalid Latif needs more time to observe and soak -knee jerk reaction/zulficar test keeper only - his batting is insignificant/shahid good captain for 1 day/although we lost but it was match on not surrunder/in Pakistani news it says yusuf - waqar and intikhab had a row over playing eleven probably over kamran - yusuf might have a point so he refused to play - we should continue with shahid as captain in 1 day - white wash was always on the card - well done Aussies/hopefully you will face a tougher Pakistan team in England/subject to sacking of coach and selection committee and selection on merit. Ban all the Pakistanis from IPL please. Salman butt gave a nice interview - but again played the same stroke- why the love cutting the ball -get a batting coach. thank god we only lost by 2 wickets this time not complete humiliation. Oh by the way we might loose 20/20 as well to create a perfect hitory - try again

  • sane cricket fan on February 2, 2010, 22:09 GMT

    I do not understand the uproar behind the losses of the pak team in australia. the team is not a good team, people need to accept that, australian team does not make silly mistakes. look at the number of dropped catches, inconsistent play.

    Look at the ashes 2006-7 results, england lost 0-5, nobody was crying that world will end. its just a game. for example everyone in windies knows their team is not that good (compared to past), so they appreciate whatever wins they can get. can the fans of pak cricket not do so.

  • billybob on January 31, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    First of all the u19s, normally when I read stuff Pakistani players have said in the media it is usually humble even when they are winning. But all I read prior to the final was how good they were and that they would thrash a talentless Australian side. Whoops, that didn't go to plan. Choked I believe the word. The worst thing the senior side ever did was sack Geoff Lawson, he is one tough bugger who did some good for the team. Problem is the Pakistan team is lazy, like the Indians. They need someone tough who can install some self belief in them. But they are too soft and don't like being told what to do, especially by an infidel westerner. In Australia, no matter how talented a player is, when the coach says jump, the players say how high coach. Harden up Pakistan, even if its only to beat your arrogant mates the Indians.

  • M KHAN OF LONDON on January 31, 2010, 13:31 GMT

    If you see above you will see i suggested Afridi to be captain.

    For a while I thought he was confirming my opinion.

    My thoughts now - HE SHOULD BE BANNED FOR LIFE

    or - He was just hungry and we should give him some apples.

  • shahid on January 31, 2010, 13:22 GMT

    this pakistan team is worse than bangla desh team,they unable to complete their fifty over cota in this series,i am guessing in future bangla desh series they will surely lost a test match,does any one think that they cant play more than three session in test match,most worse bating show by the pakistani team in recsent past, i have no hope they should band this team and give them gulli danda to play that will suit them.

  • Ravi Shanker on January 31, 2010, 13:20 GMT

    In the last ten years, the test matches head to head of India and Pakistan against Australia is 10-10 and 12-0 respectively. India beating Australia twice in their own backyard in Adelaide and Perth. This India did when Australia was bulldozing every other international team. Lesson to be learnt GOOD QUALITY BATTING. Technique and Pakistani batsmen are strangers to each other. India was the one and only international team which consistently challenged and beat the Australians mainly because of the technique of their batsmen Rahul, Sachin,Laxman, Gambhir and last but not the least Virendar Sehwag. Please take some time out and look at the records of all these five players. Mcgrath, Gillespie and Shane Warne too could not shake the Indian batsmen. People say its easy to win in your own backyard. How many international teams were able to beat Australia using home advantage? So, PCB please set up a system of batting coaches to inject technique into Pakistani batsmen at the domestic level.

  • Reza Thahir (Sri LAnka) on January 31, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    this would be my team.

    1. Shahid Afridi (C) 2. Kamran Akmal 3. Shaoib Malik 4. Younis Khan 5. Umar Akmal 6. Misbah ul Haq 7. Fawad Alam 8. Muhammad Amer 9. Shoaib Akthar 10.Muhammad Asif 11.Saeed Ajmal

    Afridi the captain should open with kamran akmal & exploit the powerplays & should get a good start, afridi should always bat as an opener in the shorter version of the game. malik has played his best as a no.3 batsmen, younis can use his experience at no.4, umar should increase the tempo of the innings with his exciting batting, misbah & alam are there to rescue in case of a batting slump as usually happens for pak. Amer & akthar too can handle the bat.

    Bowling with Asif & Amer probably pakistan has the best opening bowlers in world cricket. shoaib akthar's pace is ideally suited to bowl at first change as the other fast bowlers have failed in GUL, RANA, RAO have failed. Afridi & AJmal will do the spin & supported by malik. so its 3 fast bowlers & 2 spinners.

  • saty on January 31, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    Yes Kamran, Afridi took the the captaincy for 5th odi and shows the world his new invention of chewing the ball to forced the victory towards pakistan. Unfortunatly umpire and the law didn't allow him to continue his new discovery and Aussie hand over final blow to Pakistan.

  • sanjeev on January 31, 2010, 12:48 GMT

    @Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar look at your scores 3-0 loss in test and 5-0 drubbing against aussies...where is your afridi and please dont compare afridi with sehwag, sehwag has 16 test centuries in tests and well he has scored runs in England, Aus, SA, WI, SL and even Pakistan where he scored triple century get ur facts right before opening ur month!!!!

  • Rauf on January 31, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I just got thru watching the 5th ODI and was pleased with Pak performance and Afridi's captainship until he was shown attempting to eat the ball at few occasions like an apple... obviously to alter the state of the ball. This is so pathetic and lame and to top it off, he was the captain. It was so obvious that he can't come up with a credible excuse. I am now glad Pak lost the 5th match and they should throw the book at Afridi for pulling a stunt like that. He should be banned for atleast five matches. If you can't win a match on your skills alone then be man enough to loose with dignity.

    I AM SO MAD AT THIS!!

  • muzz on January 31, 2010, 12:37 GMT

    Selection wrong again - why dropped Kamran in 1 dayer - means one less Batsman/Khalid Latif needs more time to observe and soak -knee jerk reaction/zulficar test keeper only - his batting is insignificant/shahid good captain for 1 day/although we lost but it was match on not surrunder/in Pakistani news it says yusuf - waqar and intikhab had a row over playing eleven probably over kamran - yusuf might have a point so he refused to play - we should continue with shahid as captain in 1 day - white wash was always on the card - well done Aussies/hopefully you will face a tougher Pakistan team in England/subject to sacking of coach and selection committee and selection on merit. Ban all the Pakistanis from IPL please. Salman butt gave a nice interview - but again played the same stroke- why the love cutting the ball -get a batting coach. thank god we only lost by 2 wickets this time not complete humiliation. Oh by the way we might loose 20/20 as well to create a perfect hitory - try again

  • Raj Singh on January 31, 2010, 12:36 GMT

    Right now, The Aussies have whitewashed Pak 5-0 in ODI series. I don't understand where the will to fight has gone ? They are just playing for the sake of it. What happened to the killer instinct we used to see in times of Wasim, waqar and Imran khan? Despite all this, the people are livid over non-inclusion of pak players from IPL. Whatever be the reason behind it, Mr. Modi (in hindsight)has in fact done a service to pak cricket. They should concentrate upon Test and ODI and not worry about stupid T20 games. We would like to see a fighting pak unit for the betterment of world cricket. It feels good when 4 or 5 teams are vying for the top spot rather than just 2 or 3. That makes cricket more interesting. So PCB should not worry abt T20. And Mohd Yousuf is not captaincy material however good a test or ODI player he is. Even Afridi seems not to be learning from his mistakes. He still feels like a newcomer to team just like our Yuvraj singh despite all these years. God save Pak cricket!

  • hahaha on January 31, 2010, 11:52 GMT

    Hungry pakistan captain eats ball. How many times has he been hungry before a victory!!!!!!!

  • Zarine on January 31, 2010, 11:07 GMT

    Our Pakistani batsmen have performed so well in Australia, I am sure that IPL franchisee owners will be happy that they did nt bid for any of our batsmen. Our batsmen are only proving to them that they are right in doing so. At least after this humiliation, the batsmen should have applied themselves and played for the pride of the country if not their pockets. We as Pakistani fans should demand for player commitment on the field, NOT seek an explanation from IPL for snubbing.

  • Zindaabad on January 31, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    Poor performances in just one or two series cant question the commitment of the Pak players. They r dedicated lot, no question. Yousuf needs time and gradually i am sure, he will be of the best captains leading a great team. Any team that goes to Australia suffers, DONT FORGET. We have to support our team in these turbulent times, not ask for thier heads. One important thing is IPL shuldnt be a distraction. We should be worried more about our cricket rather than others.

  • sam on January 31, 2010, 10:43 GMT

    With all due respect to everyone who suggests to bring in players from u-19 team to senior side. Do you seriously believe these young kids can survive the grind of international cricket? Look at their performance in finals, see how they folded up under pressure in a run chase that was not even difficult. I am sure some of these players will play for Pakistan in future but not immediate future. Pakistan does have a good core group of players recent results notwithstanding. Yes they have to sort out the mess that is their batting because frankly there is nothing wrong with the bowling. Butt has shown enough grit to stay as an opener. Now you need another solid opener with him. Middle order has so much experience yet if they do not perform then how can you expect someone new to come and take charge. Umar Akmal is the key now and please let him bat up the order and start showing some faith in current lot because there is no way to go but up from here. An Indian

  • MG on January 31, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    Somebody said here said Out of Form Umar Gul is better than In form Ishant. It's same like out of form Raina is still better than Umar Akmal. Lets' see Aamer how long he last. He already started missing on injuries. BTW, without Aamer even Pak bowling attack looks same as Bangladesh. Also mentioning about Records of Saeed Anwar's 194 and Shahid Afridi's t20 performance..I can list Anil Kumble record's or Dhoni's longest IDI ranking or Yuvraj's 12 ball 50 Runs..If start mentioning Sachin Tendulkar's record..I amy need new website..so stop talking crap..and just accept PAK team is in shambles...PROUD KAFIR....

  • ruchit on January 31, 2010, 9:31 GMT

    @SD: You said "waseem sarwar, Please get ur facts right".. Well first you need to get your facts right dude.. India lost 4-2 to Australia. Considering it was a home series and Australia were grossly under strength 4-2 scoreline sounds like a bit of thrashing inspite of the couple of close games. And I am an Indian!

  • Fahad Javed on January 31, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    PCB is the real culprit here but the sack will go to the players. You can't blame a blind man for not seeing a thief. But if a person hires a blind as a security guard then you should question the hirer!

    We all know Muhammad Yusuf is defensive we all knew that Kamran Akmal is no good with the gloves we all knew politics is there in the team but it was the board which hired the wrong people to do the job so they should get the sack!

  • Rob Anderson on January 31, 2010, 8:49 GMT

    Paying public of Australia should ask for their money back. This pakistani team is so bad, they hardly ever last 50 overs. This team has virtually no batsman. Its just full of brainless sloggers. Led by the biggest brainless slogger ever seen in history of cricket. Does Afridi know that he is representing his country here?

  • khan on January 31, 2010, 7:58 GMT

    @oops and @asif

    did you catch Afridi's front foot pull.. great shot yea? and he was the captain today and i wonder who asked him to come down the order..

    The Sping is pretty quiet today.. atleast on twitter

  • zindabad on January 31, 2010, 7:37 GMT

    Come on guys...this is a full strength aussie team...remember not long ago a third string team THRASHED India in INDIA....Australia are on the roll...our U19 team thrashed India in the recent world cup...and only narrowly missed out to australia in finals...

    with some self-belief this Pakistan team can be unbeatable...we need to rise up against the evils of Modi, ICC, and others trying to weaken our cricket prowess with home bans, suspensions, exclusion etc.....pakistan will rise from the ashes inshallah!

  • Arjuna Selvaratnam on January 31, 2010, 7:35 GMT

    In case of Afridi , its case of boom boom one match......then boom boom bust next 25 matches...and u guys want this guy to be captain....no wonder pakistan cricket is sinking..... logical teams have a logical cool headed captain...not a blind hitter who relies on luck to play boom boom innings once in blue moon.

  • Suleiman M.Pandor on January 31, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    Agreed- they lack the will to win. No discipline or application in batting,bowling,and fielding.Not the right captain. They need psychological treatment.Even Shahid Afridi only plays for himself.

  • Asif on January 31, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    I am really interested in knowing answers to some questions.Can anyone answer? 1) Why Abdul Razzaq is not drafted in? 2) Imran Nazir and Salman Butt are given equal chances, why they are interchanged? 3) Why we can not draft under 19 heros in the team to give them proper exposure, look t history of Pakistan all our talent has florished when they are introuced raw and immediately at deep end; 4) Why we are persisting with Yonous Khan, Mohammed Yousaf, Salman Butt in ODIs where is the concept of two eams one for test and one for one dayres? 5) Why after every tour we hear we will do revamping and nothing is done, we do not have supply of good talent??? From look of Aamer and Umar Akmal looks like we do have talent;

  • Fakhar Masood on January 31, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    AA. Abbasi is half right that Pakistan lacked the will to win as the other half of the reason is lack of proper batting technique and buttery fingers of keeper as well as most of the fielders. I believe the team needs massive screening as Farhat, Younis,Misbeh whould be shown the door for good and if Malik does not earn his keep, he too should be out indefinitely. Yousaf is not ready to play and may need rest but he is not done yet.Fowad should be in every team and some of key performers from the world cup runner up under 19 should be given a chance to prove like Omar and Aemer did. PCB and the selection committee are practically useless. They should free PCB from the control of the President and let them learn the ropes of their own. Pakistan can still be one of the best teams in the world but the current teams has no chance at all.We love and respect the players but time has come to move on.

    Fakhar Masood Huntsville AL USA

  • Saad Omer on January 31, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    Up until they keep selecting people for non-cricketing reasons, no improvements can be anticipated. Australia has been a tough litmus test, and we are supposed to remove the acidic elements from the team which are eating it inside out. "Strategy, familiarity to playing grounds, intuitions, only-a-temporary-bad-patch, gut feelings," these are the words which should not veto the pure merit. Let the numbers speak and merit prevail!

  • Nathan on January 31, 2010, 6:09 GMT

    For me Pakistan is not a team. 11 people in a group playing cricket does not make it cricket team. They have an spineless man for a caption who stands up for his friends (though it is a good quality) at heavy cost to the team. They have personal and religious differences. But they forget they a National Team. It is a privilege to wear that uniform and stand under the Pakistan flag. If you cannot put your feeling away and play as team them they should stay away. It is time that the team get backs to basics. You need a good team building exercise, some ball catching and batting coaching. All of them are good players. But need fine tuning. The Wicket Keeper Akmal is a problem. Does not understand what team means. Only cares about himself.MUST BE Dropped until he understands his mistake. Everybody has a bad patch. It is not I am talking about.

  • Rahul on January 31, 2010, 5:30 GMT

    I have 2 points, first yousufs comments in saying his team did better than earlier pak touring party. It is astonishing statements considering the score reads 3-o in tests and 4-0 in ODIs. It doesnt matter if you loose by 5 wickets or 10, a loss is a loss. Yousuf has continued to baffle the cricketing world with his defensive approch and statements. He will go down in history of cricket as a classic example of how not to be a international capten. Secondle a balanced person like kamran seems to be geting bit carried away in requesting U-19 kids to be picked for T-20. You want to throw a kid whos achieved so much and in healthy state of mind in front of rampaging and intimidating aussie crowd to face mitchell johnson and shaun tate? It will break the young cricketer if he fails. A telent needs to be nurtured and given careful exposure. You dont have imran captening the side to shield young kids in the middle. I hope these kids are handed with great care as they are the hope for future..

  • Taylor on January 31, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    It's an open secret that Pakistan always writes down some key players' ages at junior levels. So, don't think too much of Pakistan's performance at U19 levels. In the senior level, Pakistan has always produced some good fast bowlers but average quality spinners. But not many quality batsmen. Except for Md. Yousuf, there's no one who is world-class (Don't over-hype Umar Akmal again, such batsmen are dime-a-dozen in India). And, Pakistanis have been very generous fielders and very poor athletes all the while. So, two or three good but not-top-class fast bowlers cannot win matches for you against good batting line ups like Australia, RSA and India.

  • Naren Damodaran on January 31, 2010, 5:15 GMT

    Pakistan have a captain, what they need is a leader. None of the past few captains hold any leadership qualities, look at the legendary Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and even Javed Miandad. Pakistan need someone who's charismatic, determined and more importantly, brave - not to face the opposition but to face the PCB...

  • Faisal Ahmed on January 31, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    TEST SIDE 1-Salaman Butt 2-Fawad Alam (Vice Captain) 3-Younis Khan 4-M. Yousuf 5-Umer Akmal 6-Shahid Afridi ( Captain) 7- Sarfraz Ahemd 8-M. Sami 9-M. Aamir 10- M. Asif 11-Danish Kaneria

    Khurram Manzoor,Khalid Latif, Umer Gull, Tanveer Ahmed, Hammad Azam.

    ODI SIDE 1-Salman Butt 2-Kamran Akmal 3-Younis Khan 4-M. Yousuf 5-Umer Akmal 6-Fawad Alam (V. Captain) 7-Shahid Afridi (Captain) 8-Abdul Razzaq 9-M. Aamir 10- M. Asif 11- Saeed Ajmal

    Umer Gul, Hammad Azam, Khlid Latif, Imran Nazir.

    IT IS TIME Fresh and talented player badly needed for some senior players who passed their peak time. Fawad Alam, with other young players like Umer Akmal, M. Aamir, Hammad Azam etc are the future. Fawad not only is very good batsman but he is easily the best fielder in this lethargic side in the field but he is also more then handy left arm spinner . Grow him up under Afridi's Captaincy. Younis and Yousuf still are world class batsmen. FUTURE TEAM COMBINATION OF FEW EXPERIENCED AND MOSTLY YOUNG PLAYERS

  • mazhar on January 31, 2010, 4:43 GMT

    hello my friend you have forgotton Imran Nazir... if all our opener make 5 or 10......and if Imran nazir who is still very young can play another 5 to 10 years. ! if we can give him a chance in all level of cricket + some confidence, is a cricketer who can knock off any team easily.......

  • TalhaQureshi on January 31, 2010, 4:27 GMT

    Its so rare to see a pakistan team losing matches consecutively,but it may not be a new for the fans,but it becomes so heartBreaking and intenseful when team loses,but i guess it is the toughest time on pakistan cricket where nothing is working for them,It had happened in thepast alsowhen we were treated in australiai,in 99/00,04/05,manny teamslike india,southAfrica found a probable solution to beat the australians in theirbackyard and then we were ecpecting our team to do the mystry downUnder,but then again in cricket the Anticlimaxes are quite reknown and the happened once again,iam dejecte over the 3 test losses and the sydney was not a lost,iam wondering whether it was lost,

  • sohaib on January 31, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    World cup 2011 Squad should salman butt, imran nazir shoaib malik, mohammed youfus, umar akmal, younis khan, shahdid afridi, kamral akamal, shoaib akthar, mohammad sami and any other umar gul, asif or amir. Sami and akthar will rock

  • jamil on January 31, 2010, 4:04 GMT

    we have been on this route so many times that I am kinda immune to what will happen to pakistan cricket - yet I raise my expectations for victory every time I see them play. Yesterday, before U19 WC final, I changed my FB status saying that may be we should replace the entire senior team with U19 who might actually put up a better fight. Problem is not the bowlers, issue is with batsmen, their attitude and poor strategies. The fielding is so poorly placed e.g. no slips and then a field at covers and no third man - I mean duh!! Pakistan has played better against the mighty WI in the 80s. On the other side Younis has had trouble in one dayers and no idea why was he brought back. He did participate in field setting etc in first and second match but i guess he has been told to shut up. Then we keep bringing forever rejects back into team like Rana and Rao. Bring in the new guys. We treated yasir, khurram et al poorly and they could have done better. Hopes up,only to be quashed again!!

  • faz on January 31, 2010, 4:04 GMT

    PCB has messed with cricket generally without any thought behind this, if i was pakistani, i would hold the PCB & politicians as responsible for continued termoil in pak cricket. PCB has done little to furhter junior cricket in pakistan and the results are now evident. Yousuf should resign asap, he is a good person, and its not enough to win matches. Pakistani community need to look withen themselves and stop injecting religion in all aspects of life, allay loves everyone, wheather the person is lyer, cheter, crook, non-muslim or otherwise, try to be a good human before advising others and get out of isolation, try to open the minds that will change the way pakistan will be some day..i hope..

  • mifaz mohideen on January 31, 2010, 4:03 GMT

    Its very shame to see,pakistan loosing consecutively I think the pakistani captain is soley responsible for this,neither he wasnt active at all nor he has the team spirit to lead the team.Infact the pakistani side were stronger than the australians.Im just wondering as to why the pakistan cricket board didnt give the leadership to shahid afridi since he has high team spirit and lots of experience to lead the team despite the fact that he's out of form.

  • Akif on January 31, 2010, 3:52 GMT

    Pakistan cricket team always won with divine intervention and performances by 2 or max 3 players on given day. They never won anything as team except 1991 WC. Anyways, things are not gonna change a great deal. Couple of names will be replaced by someone else and so on. The so called new team may win some matches and fans will be happy for a while. Nobody will take notice of correcting the system and politics related to Pak Cricket to deliver a consistent performance and team will be like this. It makes me laugh when people write letters to zardari to take steps. Either they are so ignorant or over optimistic. Zardari, come on guys, he is fighting for his own deeds in Pak courts and you want him to be incharge of shattered pakistani cricket. The guy on the first place appointed Butt and that is the evidence how sincere he is to Pak Cricket. This entry may won't be published as some of my previous ones. Reasons: Only Dr. Sahib knows

  • Zaheer Khan Benarsi on January 31, 2010, 3:38 GMT

    @Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar,

    You must be living in cave only to crawl out time to time to have not noticed exploits of great batsman Sehwag in Australia, England and SouthAfrica. Few days ago Ian Chappel compared him to Viv Richardsand in Pakistan he finished careers of Shoaib and Saqlain in Multan by scoring a scorching triple century.

  • M. Khan on January 31, 2010, 3:34 GMT

    I guess most folks here are missing the point - the current lot of Pak players are not true professionals!!! Thats the bottom line. People are suggesting playing eleven with little tweaks and seem convinced that it will turn the fortune around for Pak team. Not so in my opinion - Imran Nazir, Rao, Sami, Farhat, Sarfaraz, S. Tanvir, Anwar Ali, Sohail Khan, any of the U19 player - will still perform the same. They are the product of pure Pak culture of T20 - look at the scorecards of the recent QA and Pentangular Cup matches - which are played on dead Pak pitches mind you - and the score line is pathetic - most of the time teams are not even crossing 200 in 4 day games - this tells you what ails our batsmen - they severely lack self belief, discipline, motivation and above all technique to bat even at the domestic level with mediocre bowling at best. If the batsmen dont learn to put a price on their wickets and only look to be a hero and score in only boundaries they will cant compete..

  • Mohit on January 31, 2010, 3:33 GMT

    Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar says Sehwag scores only in India. Please go and check statistics..He has scored in SA , NZ ,Eng as well as Australia. He has probably scored more in Australia than the entire Pakistani team combined on this tour. And yes he has a 300 in Pakistan against your so called great bowling attack ,which has forced Ponting to declare 4 times in this series because of the ferocity of Pakistani bowlers.;)...

  • Muhammad Ibrahim on January 31, 2010, 3:25 GMT

    Hi , I dont Understand why our team managemnet and captain dont use the same pair in ODI as they use in tests , bcoz in Test Matches only our Openers scores , rest no body scored Why Kamran Akmal is used as openers , We can use Afridi as Opener or one Down , We are not getting any Benefit to play Afridi and No:6 , We we are not Dropping those players who are not Performing Well , why PCB sends Sarfraz as Kamran Akmals replacement ,Both are not good, Pakistan should find one good Keeper Batsman ,

  • SHAROZE AHMED on January 31, 2010, 3:24 GMT

    Pakistan still is one of the best team in the world . They just have to be unite and play for win .They have all the skills required for a team to win but what they have to do is to focus on their job. Mr M.Yousaf is one of the best middel order batsmen in the world but unfortunately he is not a good leader because of his defencive nature . Right now the best choice availabe for Pakistan is Afridi as a captain in all the formates . Remember the only team can beat Australia any where in the world is Pakistan . So be hopeful for the 5th ODI and 20/20 . Our team will never let us down this time . long live Pakistan .

  • Javaid Abbasi on January 31, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    In 2003 SA appointed Graeme Smith as the captain of their Test as well as ODI teams even though that team had more senior, experienced and older players such as Pollock, Kallis, etc. 7 years later G. Smith is still their captain and their team is doing well. We should follow their example and choose an aggressive, talented and a brave captain to lead the Test and ODI teams, a player who wants to win every single match at all costs and is not afraid to lose unlike Yousuf. Two players in the team that come to my mind are Afridi and Umer Akmal - Afridi as captain and Akmal as vice-captain, and then leave them alone for a while no matter what the results of the matches. We need a captain who believes in " offence is the best defence". Yousuf was a complete flop because of his ultra-defensive approach. It is also time to start introducing more young players in the team and say good bye to the likes of Yousuf, Younus and a few others. The present U19 team can furnish the replacements.

  • Jack Hosnard on January 31, 2010, 3:13 GMT

    Its not will to win but a delusional assessment abilities of Pakistan which has lead to such humiliating defeats. Delusional assessment that Pakistani bowling is best in world. Its average just like other countries ,just over-hyped capabilities have lead to bigger disappointments. Delusional assessment of Afridi as a big match winner. If you look logically he has probably helped win maybe one match in 20 with his closed eyes ,swing the bat wildly batting technique...the day he gets lucky and connects he scores a match winning innings.But on an average, he probably wins less matches on his own than say perhaps vettori ,Jaywardene or Taylor or Dumminy or even Shane Watson. These batters have technique , temperament and assess situation correctly . They may not look boom boom but are 10 times more effective than over-hyped Afridi. Hauritz has proved better spinner than overhyped Ajmal or Afridi who has adjusted bowling as per needs of game situation. Result is for all to see 3-0 and 4-0

  • faiz chowdhury from dhaka on January 31, 2010, 3:11 GMT

    I think, younus should be the captain of test team with Afridi as his deputy and Afridi as captain for both ODI and 20-20 and axe mezbahul huq, Kamran akmal, shoab malik,Naved, Omer Gul and bring back Abdur Razzak in both forms of the cricket and definitely bring Imran Nazir to both ODI and 20 -20 to open with Salman Butt. And also bring some players from under -19 specially the wicket keeper to replace Kamran Akmal.

  • Khurshid on January 31, 2010, 3:02 GMT

    Fire all the guys from the top to the bottom in PCB. Old and useless greasers have no room in PCB. Appoint only clean people with no record of corruption in their career. Only proven record should be requirement for entry in the team. No nepotism. Haggard and lifeless players like Rao anjum should not have any place in the team. Get rid of Akmal brothers both are dishonest.

  • Kiran on January 31, 2010, 3:01 GMT

    My team for test matches:

    Salman Butt - CAPTAIN Imran Farhat Yasir Hammed Babar Azam Younis Khan Mohammad Yousef Umar Akmal Fawad Alam Rameez Aziz Sarfraz Ahmed Shoaib Akhter Mohammad Sami Mohammad Aamer Mohammad Asif Danish Kaneria

    My team for ODI:

    Salman Butt..CAPTAIN Shahid Afridi...Vice Captain Imran Nazir Hammad Azam Yasir Hameed Umar Akmal Azeem Ghumman Shoaib Malik Kamran Akmal Mohammad Asif Mohammad Aamer Umar Gul Abdul Razzaq Yasir Arafat Sohail Tanvir Saeed Ajmal

    COACH: GEOFF LAWSON BATTING COACH: SAEED ANWAR OR AAMIR SOHAIL

  • ruchit reply to Muhammad Jehanzeb on January 31, 2010, 2:47 GMT

    Muhammad Jehanzeb don't talk like a fool! Sehwag hasn't got runs in India alone! He has triple century and another double of all places in Pakistan. He has got a double in Sri Lanka (not the easiest place to bad ) with Murali and Mendis in full flow on a turning track. He has 2 150+ totals in Australia. He has scored a century apiece in South Africa and England. When Afridi achives all this after 70 odd test matches you may compare him to Sehwag. There is no denying the fact Sehwag is more comfortable and more successful on flatter wickets of India it is not like he is pathetic overseas!. He defintely needs to still do better overseas particularily in South Africa and England (in Austalia he averages 50+)Defintely he is far superior to Afridi when it comes to batting and mind you he opens the innings in tests.And it is not that I am a huge Sehwag fan!Ask any neutral cricket fan and they will tell you. Height of stupid and nonsensical bias!

  • Saiful Ansari, Leesburg VA USA on January 31, 2010, 2:31 GMT

    The Pak U19 youngsters lost the final showing the desperation & poor fighting spirit of thier National Side. Batting second they self destructed. On the other hand the Australian youngsters were calm & fought like their senior team & prevailed. This goes a long way to prove that players in Australia are groomed and taught how to fight their way through adversity. Austraians do not merely rely on talent or chance. The senior Australian side has a wealth of good bench players. So with Ponting out of form, they can still afford to sit Watson, Johnson & Bollinger. The replacements come out playing good cricket at this level. Harris took two five wickets hauls and looks far better than any of the Pak bowlers. Hauritz has exceeded all expectations and is definitely better than Ajmal.I think the hype of Pak players has been over blown. By performing so poorly at this level especially in the ODI's they are unfit to play against top teams. To beat Australia in the final ODI Pak needs a miracle.

  • Saami on January 31, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    No words can define the ugly showing of our Cricket Team in Australia. Their mindset is programmed backwards - terming these performances 'less bad'? Every member of the team never said on air the word WIN once! Commentary from everyone was around "We Will Try" which had translated into this washout. If they are accepting that they are not the best so why they are on the Team. Insternational players should always be under the pressure to be the best. This loser mindset has killed the Cricket in our country. Excuses of the system, excuses of the management - if nothing is as good as it should be so why should they be paid a single paisa by Pakistani board? by IPL?. Culture set forth by Inzimam has impacted the current bunch with 'No Competitiveness' and they seem to be working more on the fact that how to lose in a less pathetic way. This Team is off to no where...Need new faces - no more Butt, Farhat, Malik, Younis, Yousef, Faisal etc. They are still in the awe of GORA SAHIBs & SCARED

  • Faheemuddin on January 31, 2010, 2:16 GMT

    I am an ardent fan of PAK team,Very disappointed with the results of present Australian series.PCB should be changed like : CEO : AAMIR SOHAIL. Chaiman Selection Com : Rashid Latif. Selectors :Saleem Jaffer,Basit Ali,Ejaz Ahmed. Coach Batting : Moin Khan or Shoib Mohammed Coach Bowling : Mohammed Zahid. Fielding : Outsider.

    TEST TEAM(For ENG & AUS, in England) 1 S Butt-VC 2 Khuram Manzor 3 Yunus 4 Yousuf 5 U Akmal 6 F Alam 7 Afridi(C) 8 Surf Ahmed-Wk 9 Asif 10 M.Aamer 11 M.Sami 12 M.Talha 13 A Sajjad 14 Raza(L.Spin/U19 15 ShoibMallik 16 Azhar Ali/Naeemudin (1 opener) Res:Adn Akmal(wk),Mohammed Rameez,Asad Shafiq,Umr Gul

    ODI-Team 1 Sal Butt(VC) 2 Shazaib Ahmed-wk 3 Asad Shafiq 4 Umer Akmal 5 Fawad Alam 6 Shoibmalik 7 Afridi(C) 8 M Aamer 9 M.Asif 10 Hammad(U19) 11 Raza(U19) 12 S Tanveer 13 Talha 14 Naved Yasin 15 M Sami Res-Anwer Ali,N Jamshed,M Waqas(wk).

    Note:Younus & Yousuf fail or aver perf in England remove for good

  • waqas on January 31, 2010, 2:10 GMT

    i fink it will b whitewash

  • nizar dharani on January 31, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    Yousuf NOT captain material ODI team as follow: Imran Nazir kamran akmal umar akmal vc yousuf youhanan abdur razaqq shahid affridi C mohammad sami mohammad aamir Anwar Ali from Under 19 saeed ajmal

    P.S - why the hell PCB only select players form PUNJAB PANDO town. there are bowlers like wasim akram in pakistan playing for quaid azam trophy but cuz they from karachi PCB not interested.

  • googly on January 31, 2010, 1:40 GMT

    The way Pakistan played on the tour is just pathetic. Mohammad Yousuf is a really bad captain.His decision making skills are as poor as his shot selection. One player who let the entire team morale down is Kamran Akmal. He should be dropped and some youngster given a chance. Dropping four catches with gloves on (that cost Pak Sydney test) is unacceptable at International level. His performance with the bat was very poor as well. Pakistan need a fielding coach desperately. The way they fielded was highly unprofessional. They lack quality spinners who can bat a little bit. Saeed Ajmal is a mediocre spinner who cant bat. Compare that to Hauritz. I cant understand how players like him get into the team. Surely they must know someone high up in PCB. After watching Pak play i felt a lot of young players are being denied opportunity to play in the Pak team at the expense of players like Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Younis, Imran Farhat, Saeed Ajmal, Abdur Rauf & Yousuf.

  • Raza on January 31, 2010, 1:32 GMT

    You know what. I have a great feeling the Pakistani players will click together in this match. InshAllah. Let us all pray for them and be optimistic for the future. They SHALL win as they have learned from their mistakes.. InshAllah

  • Saima Khan on January 31, 2010, 1:29 GMT

    After dropping five catches in one inning if you keep same butter finger "Muna Bhai" in the team, what do you expect? Fawad Alam is a allrounder why any captain do not give him to ball? do they want to keep slot for Malik in the team? Before Austrlia we had played against New Zewzelan and Khalid Latif was highest scorer, why did not Yousuf give him chance in this one day serise? Just because to make happy Munna Bhai. We should not allow any player to play for thier personal interst. Omar and Kmaran should be punished. Omar behave childish. He preferd brother over the country. I am seeing Akmal brother biggest thread for Pakistan team.They could fix the match any time. Kick them out. Saima Khan

  • Dr. Islam from USA on January 31, 2010, 0:58 GMT

    The under 19 team also did the same thing in the final but not to the extent the senior team is doing. When they were in control, 1st in bowling, they did not apply the pressure to have australia out under 160 runs, which looked possible at one stage. But the best bowlers were not brought in and tried to remove the last batting pair. The commentator said, the team is relaxing. Look at the australian side, they fought hard to push the score to over 200, thanks to some poor bowling. Then they bowled so well, when pakistan was almost 80 for 1 and was pushing to a easy win. I can not believe how the opener became restless to hit strong and loose his wicket. Then the best player Hammad, also went for a big hit in his first over and virtually lost the match in his lost wicket. Pakistan was lucky to be the runners up as opposed to Srilanka or west indies who possibly were better side.

    These players are not taught how to stay in the wicket.

  • Arshad on January 31, 2010, 0:51 GMT

    This is undoubtedly the worst performance by Pakistan cricket team ever. Ejaz butt, Intekhab alam and Yousuf do not deserve their post. We need some daring captain who can take bold decisions, defensive always losers as we witnessed in sydney. In my opinion Shahid afridi can be made captain for both test and one days for 1-2 years. For the future we should keep an eye and groom Omer Akmal and Azeem Ghumman as a future captain.My selection for the one day team would be as follows ( mean age : 25) 1. Imran Nazeer 2. Fawad Alam 3.Shoaib Malik 4.Omer Akmal 5. Shahid Afridi ( cap) 6.Azeem Ghumman 7.Hammad 8.Sarfaraz Ahmed 9.Mohd.Amir 10.Mohd Asif 11.Saeed Afzal

  • Adeel on January 31, 2010, 0:44 GMT

    Can we ask for a game between Pakistan U19 and Pakistan Seniors? I know we can easily predict that the u19 will beat seniors like kids... but still it will be fun to see that... what do you think?

  • Aarif on January 31, 2010, 0:29 GMT

    For the one days my team would be.

    Imran Nazir. Kamran Akmal. Shahzaib Hassan. Mohammad yousouf. Umar Akmal. Hammad Azam. Shahid Afridi.(Captain) Abdul Razzak. Mohammad Aamir. Saeed Ajmal. Mohammad Asif.

    For test drop Akmal, shahzaib and Hammad and bring back azhar mahmood younis khan and another keeper. and keep fawad alam in mind.

  • Awais on January 31, 2010, 0:27 GMT

    younis khan wouldn't play good under any other captian, its an ashammed that he was taken down from capanticy and more of a physcological trauma, which we are witnessing on the cricket field. pakistan has tendency from long time as we have seen this at under 19 level as well, to depend on one person rather than team work. they are bunch of idiots gathered to make a team, their egos and pride is letting the whole team and nation down. first part of been a muslim is to be optomistist and have self belief that you can do any things with the grace of lord. but pak cricket team is certainly not have this down properly; australia or any other team have to introduce some new talent and pakistan will submit to them despite the fact they are better in talent and game but they lack the ability to excecute it. Lastly,its a teams of individuals where from world cup, big three and players have became big rather the country or the team.when you play for country,yourself,your ego should be in ur toes

  • Tahir Khan on January 31, 2010, 0:21 GMT

    Nobody says it but the truth is biggest nuisance Pakistan has is Yousuf. You have analyze the stats. His runs and average is very deceiving. Most of the runs he scored in his career came in meaningless innings. Whenever Pakistan needs him to score, he fails. He only scores in easier circumstances when everybody else is also scoring. I cannot think of one inning in his test or ODI career when he singlehandedly took Pakistan to victory or close to victory or saved a match for Pakistan. Since he is considered the best batsman and a world class batsman, the team counts on him to perform under pressure. When he departs, it crushes the morale of the team. He must be eliminated and I guarantee it that the team's performance will improve. My request to the selectors and media people is to just analyze his stats and you will find out. Guess why Pakistan's T20 team performance is good. There is no Yousuf. He is a "nahusat" in the team. May God help the team getting rid of him.

  • Arshad mahmood on January 31, 2010, 0:19 GMT

    They R not selected on merrit except big guns who r out of form @moment. its shame to b a fan of continus loosers.

  • Ali Dada on January 30, 2010, 23:58 GMT

    If you kick out many players and get rid of all the top brass of PCB - it will lead to disaster. Already Pakistan has a horrible reputation for instability and this will add to it. Our solution is to always kick everybody out and start from scratch. Fair enough, we lost. We lost bad. However, we need to isolate the actual people who are causing the downfall and give others another chance. Not fair to discard all your batting aces or your top wicket-keeper or your top bowlers. I would start by taking a simple step of replacing Intikhab Alam with a complete coach - one who has a good track record, understands today's cricket and does not need a bowling coach, a psychiatric, a batting coach, and a fielding coach.

    Intikhab Alam has to take the responsibility. You can blame Mohammed Yousuf as much as you want, but he is far from being lazy or poor in the field, has perhaps the best running speed between the wickets. The coach is neglecting his duties and you see the result - butterfingers.

  • M KHAN on January 30, 2010, 23:49 GMT

    @ Hasan Shakoor , I totally agree with you. The great PAK teams of past (1970s+80s & 90s)never were 'religious exhibitionalists'.I beg PAK Board to take this element out which start becoming prevalent after Imran Khan's departure.Because of it I think Bob Woolmer's efforts to build a stronger PAK team were curtailed.We all know u r Muslims and God fearing.What we as fans need to see is you as a fighting unit - a team which has true grit,never-say-neevr attitude, positive attaccking attitude and showing no mercy or weakness to opponents even if they ar aussies.It just does not seem right that the team exhibit so explicitly its religion yet turn on spineless and gutless performances again and again.You just make the religion look bad.Also I feel the players put themselves under undue presure like when they are being interviewed.So focus on cricket and play with pride that u r representing PAK nation.Religion does not oblige u to braodcast to outer world every time that u r muslim.

  • SSS1 on January 30, 2010, 23:44 GMT

    i think this should be squad

    Kamran Nazir Malik Yousuf U Akmal Misbah/ Alam Afridi Razzaq Naveed Ul Hasan/Gul Aamir/Asif Ajmal

  • Faraz on January 30, 2010, 23:40 GMT

    all we see is the young rookie from U19 taken up to perform. Are we even suppose to expect anything from him. There are many players like rao iftikhar, younis khan, shoaib malik, the great salman butt etc who have haunted spots in the team for no good reason. In Australia, everyone knows you need pacers...there was Mohammad Sami in one test and after he performed he disappeared and lets not forget we have the fastest in the world rotting in Pakistan. Preference was given to a youngster Mohammed Amir over these great talents. If he doesn't bowl with the greats who will he learn from?? All in all, I would say that this management and selection committee has to give in arms in front of the current players and do as they direct. Only then they will be somewhat willing to play. If you want to see the teaser of how it will be under Mr. Shahid Afridi, make him captain for one ODI or watch the only T20 closely.

  • Faraz on January 30, 2010, 23:34 GMT

    First of all lets admit some facts. The selection committee of Pakistan cricket board it dumb as it can be and worst of all the management is numb. Secondly, there is a lot of politics in the team than we can even understand, courtesy of Mr. Shahid Afridi and other. I agree with your notion that the players are not willing to pay, there is a reason behind it. They don't want to play under the leadership of any other than Shahid Afridi. Its not a blame game its simple politics. Like the way Pakistanis have accepted defeat in Australia its a message to the board and the people that player power is the greatest. If they don't want to play you cannot make them. Our selection committee and the board is not powerful enough to control this. They don't have bench strength and they don't bring in new players. Recently, we had a very huge domestic competition and stars did shine in it. With bowlers having stacks of wickets and batsmen having loads of runs. But we don't see them chosen, .....cont

  • Habib on January 30, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    What do you expect from the team when their coach is expired and still lives in 60s. That goes the same for the PCB. I think Pakistan cricket needs to reform itself and bring some professionalism in their attitude. How could they select a captain who can't even make decission for himself let alone the team. Maulan Yousuf has to retire from all forms of the game.

  • pery on January 30, 2010, 23:28 GMT

    It's clear that a sudden and complete revamp of the team will not solve any long-term problems. Pakistan cricket has to have better structures from the ground up. I'm not even sure they have a high performance centre for their national team, unlike India. They have to be made aware that there is much more to cricket these days than just skills, even in the area of skills they need to improve some of them such as fielding. As for mental issues, they could look at sports psychology and for fitness issues, sports science could help. It seems that the complete development and guidance of players from an early age would help. In the meantime, a centre with proper structures incorporating sports science, technology and mental support could help the senior team.

  • faisal baig on January 30, 2010, 22:50 GMT

    Actually politics acting a big role in pak team bec some players doessnt like muhammad yousuf as a captain but you will see some good result in final and tweny twenty match bec now afridi will lead the team afridi as a agresive captain suit against well prepared australia .

  • Abdul Moiz on January 30, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    Why we always play to survive in the match and not to win. We saw that in Hobart test, where our senior players advised a 17 year older youngster to bowl outside off stump for atleast 40 to 50 overs, that was ridiculous. This sort of act let down the whole team, and becomes frustrated. It is quite understandable that Mohammad yousuf had too much pressure on him being a captain but as a best batsman on the side he had to do something. There were no tactics, no planning. If we look at the ODIS, it was an avg that 4 wickets were down at 50-60 runs, and then u expect shahid afridi to win the match for you, thats not possible, thats not his role either. He is only here to hit some shots get 25-30 runs and thats all.Overall it was very very poor performance, we never looked like professional cricketers in the ground. I am living in Australia and we need to face all the cricketing fans here, they literally teasing us now. I am not even able to face them now. I do not have any words.

  • Khurum on January 30, 2010, 22:31 GMT

    many of you do not know much about the pakistani team,although fawad alam may be young his has no talent batting or bowling and the need for atleast three experienced batsmen is key younis, yousef who is world class and afridi. Whilst players such as malik misbah farhat are not evidently good enough. we fail at the test arena but doesnt the pakistani board wonder if sehwag can play at test level with so much success so can afridi and IMRAN NAZIR who is one of the few positive players. For the bowling rana, anjum do not deserve chances especially as fast bowling is such a massive talent in pakistan. We cannot change captain within the current team as no player has a passion or enough pride, we need to give a young player a chance as did the south africans with graeme smith. Rewarded duely

  • UMTiger117 on January 30, 2010, 22:27 GMT

    Get rid of Younus Khan, Mohd. Yousuf, and shoaib Malik...these seniors have failed us. We need to build our team with youngsters and need to keep the group cohesive to prepare for the World Cup. My 2 cents!

  • Mehboob on January 30, 2010, 22:03 GMT

    Wow. I'm moved by the level of concern among pakistan cricket supporters. Inshallah we'll bounce back to do well (atleast better than this). There is this strong agreement that Yousuf should not be the captain, although he still wants it. This probably confirms why he didn't bother to inform board to go to play ICL even after being selected in the ODI and test teams. Other possibilities: Younus--> a big NO. Reason: you can't behave like kid at this level (if you don't listen to me, i'll quit. if anyone say anything, i'll quit. bla bla bla) Afridi??? I hope people remember the episode of tempering the pitch!!! this shows the mind set. secondly, he's good in bowling but not dependable in batting and can be quite unsettling for other batters. The only other person left is Shoaib Malik, who was most probably removed because he was appointed by previous administration. He has been defensive in approach at times, but he is brave(acknowledged by inzi as well)...

  • Aqil Siddiqi on January 30, 2010, 21:51 GMT

    I agree with one of the writers about making "Inzi as a batting coach would be a disaster for good". Thanks to Inzi, as we have many in our team becoming Mullah's. It's good to be a good muslim, but please, enough is enough. Yousaf stepping down, on his own????I don't think so...He has to be kicked out, not as a captain, but also be a part of our sinking ship. Pakistan Cricket is like Titanic right now. Why the hell we asked for Younis to go play in ODI's in such a poor form. This whole IPL eposode, was A BLESSING IN THE SKY for PCB, as they have diverted our intentions from real problems(Our Current Horrible Team). May be it's a ploy from India??????as to help Ijaz Butt and Co to destroy our once famouse talented team go down the tube(Just a thought). When we had Mohd Sami, why we played that useless Rana Naveed in the team again(Remember, he was one of the reason, we lost so badly in the last World Cup). For sure, it's time to drop Imran Farhat, Kamran, Kaneria and the two Y's.

  • raza ullah on January 30, 2010, 21:44 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, At the outset, I must say I write these comments just to vent out my anger because I know full well they would not influence jokers like Zardari and Butts. These people, like the ones governing hockey and squash, have nearly destroyed cricket in Pakistan. Whatever was left is being done by Australia with over and under 19 teams. I concur with you whole heartedly. But the "will to win" is only one facet of the whole situation. The other facets include terribly wrong selection for matches, grooming of young players,and the cricketing structure in Pakistan. I agree with Sohail when he says who really needs Younis. He was terribly out of touch before the current series and still is. I believe, at age 67, I can bat better than him, or at least score more runs. For me, I honestly do not see these boys are playing for the country with commitment. Crying out loud, we have thousands of cricketers in Pak. Can't they replace lousy players like Malik, Younis, Gul, Rao, Butt, and Rana?

  • Aqil Siddiqi on January 30, 2010, 21:27 GMT

    We R very generous people,but there is a limit to every thing.If these players don't shape up soon,we can make their lives very unbearable.Most writers fails to understand one most Imp aspect of our cricketters mind these days,which is, no one is interested in playing for Pak. Those were the days of Hanif, Imtiaz, Fazal, Mushtaq Mohd, Asif Iqbal, Imran, Javed and Qadir, when we loved to play for Green Colour. Now, they are just playing to make lot's of money, and very soon. As long, This reality is not comprehend by our beloved fans,we will be just keep suffering. Players like, Yousaf, Younis,Kaneria, Kamran, Rana(Boy, do I hate him), should be kicked out ASAP. Bring some new blood, and let's start rebuilding, with Shahid Afridi be a captain.Only in him, I saw some pain, when we were losing,rest didn't even give a damn.And please,no one should compare the Legend Wasim Akram with this new kid."Amir".He is not even fit to kiss the grass,where once, Wasim graced this game. Aqil Siddiqi

  • Sajid on January 30, 2010, 21:26 GMT

    Peoples see nightmares while sleeping but Pakistani cricket lover see nightmares after sleeping, when i get up 4 AM (PST) to see my national team, i only found there are some school children, who tried to win a single match from a highly qualified, specialized, professional, MBBS, Phd degree holders. I beg PCB chairman please sir, for God sake resign, you are not able to handle player power. They all want to see afridi as captain and their body language give us message that yousuf bhai not acceptable. Please save Pakistan Cricket. Can any body tell me just one thing ?? Why Mohamamd Sami bring back to Pakistan after just 1 match even he destroyed the Ozzie batting line.. Any one ???

  • Ubaid on January 30, 2010, 21:24 GMT

    Enough talk about the braindead talent in the team, we need some real cool heads with mental strenght to tackle international teams...like Imran or Javed

  • CricketWatcher on January 30, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    Yousuf is an extremely poor captain, totally tactless, his field positions are atrocious, the moment he gets the chance to drop back the field he does without regard to the state of the game, a prod down to midoff and midon is a guaranteed single. He is almost delusional but that is Pakistan cricket team, when will they realize that age and beard are not qualifications for a captain, they are quite good qualifications for a modern brainless mullah. When will mullah-ism be cut out from the Pakistan team, Kamran Akmal is as poor with the bat as ever, Younis does not look like he is remotely interested in being out there (it's only a matter of time before he opts out of the next series), Umar Gul is not as good as everyone makes him out to be, so is Naved.

  • Hasan Shakoor on January 30, 2010, 21:08 GMT

    The under 19s have shown how much talent there still is back home, and what an utter waste of talent out senior team has become. Until the current PCB is dissolved and a new independent body is set up, our woes will continue. I never thought it possible but Ijaz Butt makes Naseem Ashraf look like an awesome administrator. HE NEEDS TO GO !!!!! Nobodies like Butt and Iqbal Qasim should not be allowed anywhere near the admin of the team. What's more, the new board will have to take on the tableeghi element in the team. It is obvious to most that Inzimam's brainless "It is the will of Allah" philosophy has totally screwed the team spirit. It must be made clear to everyone who plays for pakistan that they are paid to win matches, not to be warriors of Islam and spread the word of Allah where ever they go.

  • asad on January 30, 2010, 21:06 GMT

    All the hoo haa about a conspiracy against Pakistani players being excluded from the IPL,and the Pakistani sports minister calling for an inquiry as to why that happen is laughable.There were comments that the exclusion of Pakistani players was to humiliate and embarrass the Pakistani people.I think the current senior Pakistan cricket team has done enough to humiliate and embarrass every Pakistani without the IPL snub.What the sport minister should do is to launch an inquiry into the abysmal performance of the cricket team and recommend a serious overhaul similar to what the South Africans have done.

  • Syed Shah on January 30, 2010, 20:56 GMT

    Every member over here have their own thoughts. But I think the best person to lead the team is Shahid Afridi and M Asif would be his deputy. If you want a leader in future Muhammad Asif would be the best choice and if he deputises Afridi, he will learn to mature as future captain. Asif also has an aggressive attitude and very good cricketing mind so if he deputises afridi, he will learn the finest points of cricket.

  • M.TAHIR FROM SPRINGFIELD ILLINOIS on January 30, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    The bowlers are equally guilty as the batsmen.I dont know how the selecters could even think to put Rao ahead of Sami.He has raw pace..and sometimes that puts fear in the hearts of the best batsmen in the world.REMEMBER BRIAN LARA...GETTING HIT BY A SHOAIB AKHTER DELIVERY AND IMMEDIATELY CALLING SHOAIB AS THE MOST DANGEROUS BOWLER HE HAD EVER FACED.Also an injustice to shoaib for not including him in atleast the one day squad.Agreed,he gets injured..BUT u can see that the same thing is happening to young Amir.Thats what happens to fast bowlers but its a risk worth taking than to continue with the mediocre Rao..who wont deliver.Well this tour is all done for but I think for the England tour we definately need sami and Akhter alongwith Razzaq.Razzaq ishould be in all formats as he is a very intelligent allrounder..A batsman who has batted at all positions and scored.Furthermore against Australia Pakistan needs to fill allrounders till no.9 and Amir at 10.Pathetic batting needs oxygen.

  • TARIQ HAFIZ , ORWIGSBURG , PA, USA on January 30, 2010, 20:41 GMT

    It's simply mindboggling that Mohd. Sami was totally ignored in the ODI's. I sincerely feel bad for the Austrlian cricket lovers who were deprived of their summer-cricket fun and excitment due to an extremely pathetic,sorrowful, toothless,uncompetitive opposition.

  • bohurupi on January 30, 2010, 20:39 GMT

    I simply don't understand why Yousuf had been retained as captain for the ODI series after the terrible test series debacle. Here one failure after another is not just adding up rather exponentially damaging whatever spirit and moral is left over in the team. This decay in team spirit will be carried over to the next series and will get even worser. It has to be stopped. It is time to trash the old haggards and rebuild the team with the budding talents and train them from scratch.

  • mudasir on January 30, 2010, 20:39 GMT

    lets stick with this team upto world cup

    1)Imran Nazir 2)Abdul Razack 3)Younis Khan 4)Misbah-ul-haq 5)Afridi 6)Kamran 7)umer akmal 8)shoaib malik 9)Mohd asif 10)Mohd Sami 11)Mohd Amer 12)Umer Gul 13)Mohd yousuf 14)suhail tanvir Lets trust these 14 players .Razack should open with nazir and attack like shane watson ..we all know how razack can hit..

  • Faz on January 30, 2010, 20:38 GMT

    The problem with pakistan cricket is beyound cricket, complete lack of desipline in all from of life,the base and attitude is completely that of unwillingness to accept the problems facing the contry let along cricket, the only thing pakistani community is capable of is weekly parties, Biryani and talk,this contry needs to realise that community not only needs to eat but to perform in all aspect of life, such as, sports, medicine, technology, simply put if i was PM of Pakistan i would imediatly declalare truce with India, after all indians are closest to pakistani culture then any one, pakistan has more to worry then indians, hope every pakistani knows that. As far as cricket, i have never seen such terrible mismagment and racklessness combined with lack of self belief in any team ( U19 included), yousuf should never have been captain, and the team should work toward unity. Australia are betable if you plan and stick to it. Wake up pakistanis, talk is cheap, lets see some action

  • Rabbit on January 30, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    The matter of fact is, pakistan have a poor batting side, a poor fielding side and a useless meek captain. Paks bowlin has always been good and even an out of form umar gul looks better than inform ishant. unfortunately very few games can be won on bowlin alone. unless pakistan gets 3-4 good batsman and superb fielders no captain can do anything.

    look at australia, do you think ricky was making big strategies out there for 10 yrs? have a bunch of good players and the rest just falls in place

  • Hasib on January 30, 2010, 20:07 GMT

    Before Pakistan came to Australia, I was one of the biggest supporter of MY. I thought his calm way of doing things might help the team. With this defensive approach and weird captancy, it's proven that he is not captain material. At one point I thought he deserved more chances. With every game, he is making clear that he doesn't have what it takes to be captain. Two of the most disturbing things from this series: Yousef and co settling for 'we will lose to Australia because they are better' mentality. I just feel sorry these guys.

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    Syed Turab Ali Shah, your team is quite good as you have 6 bowling options, asif,, amir, razzaq, ajmal, afridi and Malik, You have 1 aggressive opener and 1 solid opener. having said that the batting looks a little top heavy. Therefore you can move Razzaq at 6 he is more of a reliable batsman. Afridi at 7 and K.Akmal at 8 i would also say that abdul razzaq at no 8 is a waste he in asian conditions we can get more overs out of our 3rd spinner S.malik if that happenes then it openes the door for Razzaq if he has to play he should play as a batting allrounder. at no 8 you need a bowling all-rounder like Sohail Tanvir. we should pick a number of all-rounders for 2011 wcup Both Shoaib Malik S,Tanvir Abdul razzaq and Fawad Alam all should be in and then you pick the playing X-1 based on pitch requirements, their form etc.

  • john booth on January 30, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    Not a sinlge payer is willing to fight for win excpt Aamer. if you do not want save your wickt personally then quit playing cricket. New rule: if does fight to win that dump the whole team. Let coach/captain have a say in selection, but if they do not fight to win just discrad them for next round. only place a good to team can be created in Pak Army where palyers can perform to a plan and take orders to captain. cricket should be given pak army and let them produce fighting fit and discipline players. If club players want to play, let them join army for discpline. Butt lazy and selfish. younis and yousef stupid looking at the best in shot selection. afiridi also selfish. get asim kamal back. those who do not want to fight to win should not be given any chANCE.

  • Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar reply to jhongra bukhari on January 30, 2010, 20:02 GMT

    jhongra bukhari seems like you are quite jealous from Mr Boom Boom Afridi like all other guys who dont know about cricket at all mind it sehwag only scores in india out side countery he cant score even against zimbabway dont compare any body with afridi as he is some thing diffrent from all cricketers he is the excitment the exzubrant the twist in the team he lonely take the attack to the opposition and our other players lack that and second he is playing his part in last two 3 years he is the top performer from pakistan he won u the world t20 cup for you wat he do for you u are not satisfied from him i think u are the supporter of players like younis yousaf misbah shoaib mailk danish kanariya who are not performing why not pin pointing them u are simply jealouse from afridi brilliant you know people come to see afridi and when he gets out people tune off tv or left the stadiums thats is y he is very popular so dont be jealouse from him and pray for ur flops players who r nt performing

  • M.TAHIR FROM SPRINGFIELD ILLINOIS on January 30, 2010, 19:58 GMT

    The bowlers are equally guilty as the batsmen.I dont know how the selecters could even think to put Rao ahead of Sami.He has raw pace..and sometimes that puts fear in the hearts of the best batsmen in the world.REMEMBER BRIAN LARA...GETTING HIT BY A SHOAIB AKHTER DELIVERY AND IMMEDIATELY CALLING SHOAIB AS THE MOST DANGEROUS BOWLER HE HAD EVER FACED.Also an injustice to shoaib for not including him in atleast the one day squad.Agreed,he gets injured..BUT u can see that the same thing is happening to young Amir.Thats what happens to fast bowlers but its a risk worth taking than to continue with the mediocre Rao..who wont deliver.Well this tour is all done for but I think for the England tour we definately need sami and Akhter alongwith Razzaq.Razzaq ishould be in all formats as he is a very intelligent allrounder..A batsman who has batted at all positions and scored.Furthermore against Australia Pakistan needs to fill allrounders till no.9 and Amir at 10.Pathetic batting needs oxygen.

  • muzz on January 30, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    I watched Under 19 final what we lack is patience and not to let the other team off the hook - when the things go right we purposele change it to wrong - both senior and junior Captains did the similar mistakes - let the batsmen settle down after 5 down for less than hundred - donot try to be super hero and seek appreciation after doing some thing abnormal - normal things are tested and fruitful - so just follow the normal- make the opposition work for every run and every wicket- the golden rule of cricket.

  • SD on January 30, 2010, 19:54 GMT

    waseem sarwar, Please get ur facts right. Aus. won in India 3-2. That's not thrashing. Two of those Aussi wins were any body's game till last over. Had India been not overconfidant, they would have won 4-1. During the series India was #1 team. Yes, Aus didn't had it's full strength...even now they didn't play lee, Johnson, Bollinger(few games)..Ponting poor form etc. Ponting was amazing then. Last time India toured Aus., India won the tri nation tournment (with Sri lanka)...India beat Aus 2-0 in the best of the 3 finals. Aus had their full team including Gilchrest. That's why India is #2 now...just a matter of time before they regain their #1 ranking...of course they r #1 in tests...just a matter of time before they regain their form in T20. At the same time, Pak doesn't deserve the drubbing they r receiving in Aus. They r a lot more talented than that. Besides other things it's psychological too. I hope they figure it out real quick. !BEST OF LUCK FOR PAK CRICKET!

  • hassan on January 30, 2010, 19:47 GMT

    also I think we make captaincy too much of an issue when talking about team performance. Why is it considered impossible for pakistani players to be good in the field?? whats the point of having a bowling coach when batting and fielding are the weakest skills of the team?? Having a world class bowling attack with a lame feild which will drop all the catches and miss all the run outs is just like having third class bowlers. Players who are unwilling to work on their fielding should be thrown out.

    And can someone please tell pakistani players how to play a pull shot like the australians. They run on the crease like a headless chicken every time the ball bounces a little

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 19:47 GMT

    Continued. If a player is dropped they can go back to domestic cricket, county cricket or anywhere else regain their form and then they could be brought back, but players who are not utility cricketers are neither match winners nor consistent performers should not be persisted with.The 2011 wcup is just 1 year away we cannot make a lot of changes to this squad there simply arent that many options, of all the players currently not in the odi squad, only I. Nazrir, N. jamshaid S.Tanvir Razzaq S.Akhtarand M.Sami are the only players could be considered for selection there is always a big question mark over S.akhtars fitness and discipline therefore S.tanvir should be in the squad at the expense of Rao and if Rana or umar gul or both continue to struggle then we can bring in Razzaq or sami or both. But unless we find genuine all-rounders or batsman who can bowl we cannot pick 2 specialist openers. Therefore we should have 2 openers in the squad But only 1 in the playing 11.

  • hassan on January 30, 2010, 19:44 GMT

    the moment Mohd. Yousuf was made a captain I knew it was a mistake. This experiment has been tried before and he is simply not the kind of guy who performs under pressure of captaincy. He himself has admitted that despite being in good form he has been unable to sleep. PCB needs to realize that some people may be very good batsmen but that doesn't necessarily make them a good captain, sachin tendulkar is an example of this. Yousuf is a defensive batsman and thats the attitude he gives to the whole team as a captain. Younis Khan even though being a good choice has run away from the responsibility several times instead of facing the challenges like a real leader should. I think the obvious way out of this mess is to make Shahid Afridi the captain, I wouldn't care if my team loses but I want to see them atleast try to win. Under Yousuf they just take the field like dead zombies.

  • Dr. Mubashir Hanif on January 30, 2010, 19:44 GMT

    Assalamoalikum! Pa g!Dont forget the real culprit, Younis who loved his ego more than he loves Pakistan. Alas!Pakistan has been a playground for idiotic leadership, PCB is not an exception either. Pakistanis can do wonders, look around you any where in any field BUT... the leadership. Most of the Captains who have been sailing the ship of Pakistan have made holes themselves in the ships. Ponting did not perform any better than Yousaf in terms of Runs but as a captain he did, why?Because of a fool proof system that is based on justice and honesty where merit is everything unlike Pakistan. No wisdoms needed, look at the pool of people who are leading us, Mullas, Military, Zardaris, A-Z leagues, what else do you expect?Inshallah once Pakistan goes into the right hands, Pakistanis will blossom much better. Its a promise that shall be fullfilled soon inshallah. Only then we can fight Pontings, Smiths, Vettoris and such.Peace

  • Pakistani on January 30, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    LMAO My local team can beat Pakistani National Team.

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    Continued: And then last there is the 3rd type of players who succeed in odi cricket they are the utility cricketers, players who field well catch well, good team players players who can bat up and down the order and bat accordingly, contribute with both bat and ball sometimes they will give you some vital runs some time they will bowl a good 5-6 over spell and get a wkt here and there, these type of players can balance your side. Unless of course you have a genuine all-rounder like imran khan who can bat in top 6 or or a bowling all-rounder like wasim akram who can strengthen your lower order and hit out in last 5-10 overs. So any player in the side who isnt fulfilling any of these 3 roles or is no longer capable of doing so must be dropped. public and players both should change their mind about being dropped. The word drop doesn't mean that you are gone forever. it simply means that on the basis of your current form, or team combination you dont merit a place in the side.

  • muhammad ahmad on January 30, 2010, 19:11 GMT

    muhammd yousuf still has to be in there for the upcoming world cup

  • TQ on January 30, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    Tomorrow our selfish players play the best match of the tour and we'll see many individual performances, probably a win also. Than they'll be retained for the next tour and same story will continue that we've been seeing for some time. Afridi , etc. etc. are the temporary solution. We need to find permanent solution of this problem and lets start with PCB. Kick all of the rubbish personnel to their home. Bring real professionals better like Asif Iqbal, Ramiz Raja, etc. to look after the affairs. Bring young talent and don't look for any of the current players except Asif and Aamer. We definitely need some one like Boycott as mentor.

  • daedalus on January 30, 2010, 19:01 GMT

    The myriad reasons for Pakistan's continued failures in Australia (and world over) would take too long to dissect. However, for simplicity's sake I would identify two crucial elements:

    1. The culture of the powers that be that run cricket has to change. Even now, PCB's statement was that we want to get ready for the next World Cup. Forget about WC's and T20 Championships and Champion's trophies. The goal should be the Australian way: WIN EVERY GAME. The pursuit of victory must be relentless every time they step on the field. A paradigm shift needs to occur - and Australia has shown the way to all others...

    2. Abandon the culture of seniority. By promoting Graeme Smith as captain, SA cricket sent a strong message that only performance on the field matters and the mentally strongest shall lead even if he is but a child in cricket years. Perhaps Afridi is our answer, but the message needs to be unequivocal. Thank Yousuf for his services, and then anoint one who shall be king...

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 18:59 GMT

    People must realize its horses for courses, if a player is successful at 1 format of the game it doesn't mean that he becomes indispensable in all formats. lets not talk about someone test record and assert he should be in the odi side.Y.khan averages 50 in tests cricket and no 1 can drop him from test cricket. I have nothing against Ykhan but anybody who has seen him bat in last 12 months knows there hasnt been any class about his batting he has scored 2 50s in last 23 odis both in Asia Not just Y.khan A lot of players in this team are either just making up the numbers,or they are being misused. There are 3 type of players who succeed 1-match winners 2-consistent players A player either has to be a match winner, on and off yes but he will have his good days, he may fail in 8-10 games but then he will come back with a big match winning contribution, or consistent players who don't come up with any Gr8 performance but they will give you 50-60 runs or a couple of wkts regularly cont:

  • Uday Kulkarni on January 30, 2010, 18:49 GMT

    Typical of India and Pakistan - BLAME GAME IS ON WITH ATTACKS ON INDIVIDUAL CRICKETERS AFTER ABYSMAL SHOWING OF THE TEAM. This is exactly what people did to Tendulkar after India's loss to Australia in World Cup Finals and whenever India loses; the same thing happens. No one tries to analyse the shortcomings and come up with concrete plans BASED ON PROPER ANALYSIS in bith the countries. I have watched all matches in Canada between Australia & Pakistan on CBN Network and am NOT going to join the band wagon. Spare a thought for some good especially young Pakistani cricketers who need proper guidance anf NOT demoralisation. Players need the support most at this time while the PCB can retire a few old players who are completely out of form but after the end of series; NOT when the game is going ON. Time to encourage the playesr to fight the Australians. Best Luck to Pakistan in 5th ODI and hope it is not a whitewash.

  • Hussain on January 30, 2010, 18:43 GMT

    Seriously, at least change the captain for one game and see what happens! I am sure if anyone else besides Yousuf was the captain on this tour, we would not have lost the Sydney test and the confidence from then on might have changes the whole outlook. Its really disheartening. Really. I am sure being a 26 year old cricket fan I can probably do a better job running PCB than these old idiots with zero management experience and whose only credibitluy is that they played a few games for Pakistan. Bring in some new faces. Remove Qasim, Miandad, Butt from the management. Remove Malik, Gul, and Kamran from the team as I highly suspect these to be the main characters playing politics in the dressing room. Get someone fresh faces for God's sake. And someone rightly pointed out, we have had enough of Rana and Rao as back up bowlers. If you cant win (or at least show some fight) against an ordinary Australian team with Asif, Aamer, and Gul in the attack, then you as a captain are pathetic

  • Ami Ahmed on January 30, 2010, 18:42 GMT

    How typical...why dont we just get it into our heads that the Aussies are just too good for us...hello, everyone, they are a far far better side!!!....Yesss, t-h-e-y a-r-e. As for Pakistan, well, just crap im afraid!!! FULL STOP!!! Look, when it comes to onedays and tests we lie 7th...yes 7th in the rankings!!!... So we're just about good enough to compete with the likes of Sri Lanka, New Zealnad and the Bangans and kalays!!! Not the top sides. So, lets move slowly, with a few batterings along the way...and some day we'll get there!!!...How does 10 years sound???...I didnt think so.

  • haroon on January 30, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    Yousuf should step down as captain, but he definately has a place in the team!!he has been in decent form, just bad luck.Younis however was horrible, and the same goes for kamran akmal, gul is out of form as well. Misbah should be a thing of the past. We can try bringing in players from the U-19 but only hammad shud be considered. Why do we perform so well at the junior level?because Pakistani cricket runs purely on talent!this shows that most of these players have immense talent but we lack in training and coaching of this talent , fail to incorporate the science of the game and players are not mentally strong,too much politics and infighting and there is a lack of will to fight and the hunger to win.Afridi can be very irresponsible with his batting at crucial stages but his naturally attacking instinct and the fact that he contributes with bat, ball and fielding means that he should lead the team from now on. Younis khan,even in form is too irreliable and a cry baby to say the least

  • Sam on January 30, 2010, 18:02 GMT

    This will balance pakistans side perfectly:- 1) Imran Nazir 2) Shahzaib Hasan 3) Shahid Afridi (Captain) 4) Umar Akmal 5) Hammad Azam 6) Shoaib Malik 7) Abdul Razzaq 8) Mohd Amir 9) Mohd Asif 10) Umar Gul 11) My personal Fav. - Saeed Ajmal

    Rest of the 4 reserves- Ahmed Shehzad, Mohd Sami, Younis Khan and finally the ever committing great batsman -Fawad Alam.

  • Riz on January 30, 2010, 18:00 GMT

    Today, Cricket is more competitive, more games, more training and probably more injuries. In football, manager (coach) plays the central role, he is responsible for success or failure of team. He decide the strategy, tactics and players to play. Captain only implement the game plan in the field or ground. We need to change the role of coach and captain. Coach should be incharge of whole team off the field and on the field. Captain should only lead the team in field, he should not be responsible for selection and overall strategy of game. Pakistan Cricket team overhauling, from coach to senior players. Sarfaraz is better keeper than Kamran, Salman is not techincally test opening. Yousef is so far the best batsmen in side but the worst captain. As far as Afridi is concerned, he played ODI like T20. In the fourth ODI, if he had played sensibly, the result could be different.

  • Shahzad on January 30, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    What happened to Pakistan in Australia is not new, they even could not win a series in presence of Waseem, Waqar, Inzimam, Mindad, Imran. Biggest drawback is not just the captaincy, but the lack of proper coach and strange type of team selection are bigger contributor to these results. Younas Khan should have been included in test squad but must have been omitted from one-day squad, opposite happened. In the short run, if a talented coach can be hired who can coach the batting techniques, capable of making overall strategy and familiar with modern technology and secondly a selection comittee can be apointed with some understanding of modern cricket who can evaluate the ability of players for particular formate, thirdly bring Afridi as one-day captain and Younis as Tes captain then performance can be improved. For the long run, only one thing to do, quality of domestic cricket, quality of domestic cricket........

  • Rashid on January 30, 2010, 17:53 GMT

    Mr Chang Bhai Yours Post is right on money. ----------------- If one has to save pakistan cricket....than to the very least sack these players: 1. Shoaib Malik 2.Kamran Akmal 3.Rana Naved 4.Misbah 5.Farhat 6.Faisal Iqbal I would add 7.Rao 8.Wahab Riaz 9.Iftikhar Anjum these guys waste 2 or 3 slots from the playing 11 and consequently pakistan team ends up with 8-9 players vs the other 11 ------------------------ There are plenty of young talents , we should try them and if they fail no problem since the list above has almost guarantee to be a failure. Cricket is batting,Bowling and fielding.You cannot eliminate one vital part and win.

  • gaurav on January 30, 2010, 17:39 GMT

    hey all in all, all yeh ALL pakistan needs is a series against INDIA and they will be inform, will improve, may start winninnnggg...

  • h.khan on January 30, 2010, 17:34 GMT

    im going to keep this simple..

    1.get rid of teh coach. 2.get rid of m.yousuf..he is ok for tests only. 3..k.akmal oneday and 20/20 only 4.safraz w/k for tests. 5..get rid of al the top managment staff..load of rubbish. 6.bring in people who have played the game..amir sohail, mustahq ahmed, wasim akram, waqar younis, rashid latif, miandad, moin khan..all these guys should be involved somewhere..izni..etc 7apart from 2 o r3 players..noone is playing for their country,,pure money..

  • The Intelligent Man on January 30, 2010, 17:33 GMT

    I wish all the best to Australia to make it 5-0 as this is the only way to get rid of Yousef as captain.

    Pakistan must stop the practice to give captaincy to whosoever is the most senior player in the team. It should be based on leadership quality, general ettiquette and approach towards life.

  • GK_India on January 30, 2010, 17:32 GMT

    As some of them wrote here basic problem with Pak players is ATTITUDE! So, players have to improve theirs. No foreign coach can change that. Also they need to learn English and stop using religion in sports. Speaking in desi language in international media makes you hero in Pak!?!? (also using religion slang?) Certainly, the world does not like it. You have TALENT, you have FITNESS, but NO ATTITUDE. Sack Yousuf Youhanna and give it back to Younis. Listen to him - he is a true cricketer unlike half-cooked rest. Give Younis the confidence and he can turn everything around. Its laughable to see that Pakis are following U19 seriously! How pity! Their senior team is flopping! IPL hungams was blown up than required. It was just that Pakis missed making money! Thats it! No Pak citizen is losing nothing. Why fight for their money? If they deserve they will get it. Lastly, Afridi is JUST good bowler(has brain) & Flukest batter(No brain)!

  • Zikria Adil on January 30, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    As you are aware after the poor performance of World Cup Indian Selectors removed the senior players like Sarov Ganguly, Rahul Dravid, Anil Kumble, VVS Laxman from the ODI squad. Since then Indian team performing better and better they even beat Australia in Australia, off course they lost some matches but on an average they are the reliable and good team.

    Now I request Pakistan selectors to drop the Senior Players Viz, Mohammed Yousuf, Mohammed Younus, Shoaib Malik, Misbah Ul Haq, Imran Farhat from the ODI Squad and give the chance to some young buds. Pakistan have full of talent they just need to flourish them. Improve the domestic structure of the Country.

    Now Pakistan is going through bad patch it will improve very soon, but drastic changes required.

  • Sadi on January 30, 2010, 17:10 GMT

    For God sake, any one have to do something regarding this team, Most of the players, pride is gone, Younus khan why he was called to Australia, he is out of form and he could not play the domestic bowlers and he failed again in Australia. Malik, Yusuf, Butt, Akmal, Younus, Rana all they are failed players. I dont know what is the selector members are doing. They need to add Hammad Azam, Raza, Gumman is a good players under 19 cicketers. This seniors playing for them self. and just they getting all this money for nothing. Need to be analysis and accountable for every match performance not by going for being seniors. what you will do with their seniorness when there performance is below bar. Need to be learn from Australia.

  • AM on January 30, 2010, 17:10 GMT

    I feared for Pakistan's cricket at the end of Imran Khan's career, because even at that time our cricket depended heavily on Imran Khan's knowledge and experience and not on a good national cricket structure in place. The way the team performs today is what I feared would happen to it once Imran left the scene. That it has taken two decades to reach these depths is a remarkable testimony to Imran's legacy. The younger players associated with Imran and who learnt a lot from him (Wasim, Waqar, Salim Malik, Inzamman. Ijaz etc.) managed to delay the inevitable slide towards mediocrity, but they themselves were not able to impart their knowledge, skills and work ethic to newer generations of players and the results are there for all to see. I avoid following live action when the present team is playing a match. It is just too stressful. With all the problems, the PCB is the one sports body which still makes a lot of money. But it is appalling that it cannot put its own house in order

  • Faisal Durrani on January 30, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    It's the PCB and it's cronies that r responsible for this. Yusuf is the worst ever capt of Pakistan. I think my kid can do better captaincy. The team went thru motions in these one dayers, not to say anything abt the test series. Yusuf still has the approach of "ALL IS WELL". He shud be removed from captaincy immediately and let Afridi be the captain in all forms. There shud be three separate teams, onefor each format. The new players from U19 can be given chances into t20 and gradually into ODI and then into tests after assessing them. New kids r hungry the old ones r rotten. PCB leadership shud also be chnaged with some young shoulders. Batting coach is needed alongwith fielding coach, and an excellent keeper needs to be nurtured. Ther is no harm in throwing Hammad in the deep end as Pak history is filled with such examples and have been successful with this approach.

  • shaid fazal ( england ) on January 30, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    thats so true watever happen to humayun farhat, perhaps the best keeper pakistan has seen for a while and a good short game player.

  • usman ali on January 30, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    hey firstly there is one thing tht is costing us most matches,, kamran akmal is the problem he bats in the top of the order and does nothing,,,, secondly he is not a good keeeper over the past few years all he has done is dropped catches at crucial stages of a match,,,, they should go with butt, latif or farhat at the top,, as for the keeper position i follow the domestic circut quite closely for the onedayers humayun farhat should play he is the older brother of imran farhat an awesome batsman and is in top noch form,,

  • Adnan on January 30, 2010, 16:55 GMT

    i think evrything has gone rong since sydney loss.asa life long paki fan, i must say that that run chase was the worst day of my life.srilanka and newzealand losses hurt but this was a chance to beat aussies in their home.ithink these guys shudnt even play the last ODI.just comebak home.concede te result already n cum bak home guys coz we have had enuf of wakin up early to c ur sorry state. anoter question? y was malik replaced as captainin 1st place?plus i tink salman butt is te future.let im lead our team.malik was ood at no 3 earlier y does he sit out for out of sorts younus? plus theres talk of players central contract?i say dont pay them but fine them 4 this series.all these guys wana do is play IPL 4 money.no honour 4 country in their hearts. akmal its time u give up the gloves man. fawad alam shud buy a smaller bat he can actually lift. gul wht happened to u man?

  • raheel on January 30, 2010, 16:54 GMT

    The only way to get rid of Usuf is to take him to an indoor ice skating and he will be in hospital until the end of 2011 WC.

  • Salman Mahmood on January 30, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    Gul needs to be replaced by Sami. It is a pity that Sami got AUS in 10/3 situation but he was not given a chance to play in any match after that. He can bowl at 150 miles per hour and swing the bowl. He deserves to be in the team. Politicians like Umar Gul who play games to keep themselves in the team should be kicked out. He can only bowl short balls and his record shows what a poor bowler he is.

  • Faisal Wahab on January 30, 2010, 16:36 GMT

    We lack bowlers who can bowl in the death overs, means from the 42nd till 50th overs. Gul is out of touch. Rana Naved is too expensive. Asif is not having his swing on song. We need a bowler like Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Saqlain Mushtaq Calibre. The nucleaus of the 1999 World Cup Finalist team was made in Australia in 1989-90. This present team has no nucleaus, one day one player is playing the other day he is out. Where is Imran Farhat, he was named in the ODI Squad, Where is Sarfraz Ahmed wk, after playing in the 3rd test he is dumped. Where is Khalid Latif why he is not playing, he is a superb fielder. The team planning is totally lacking, there is no will to win a match. Captain is as always setting defensive field in the oneday matches, i have my sympathies for M. Yousuf, he needs time to perfect his errors, but this is not the stage to do this thing. We need a young Captain to lead our side in the oneday matches. there should be separate teams for odi, test matches & t20.

  • Faisal Wahab on January 30, 2010, 16:21 GMT

    Mr. Iqbal Qasim chief Selector of PCB said that we are trying hard to build a team for the next world cup, how many months are left for the next world cup? this is my first question. the second one is that i am listening to all these chief selectors after we lost to Aus in the 1999 World Cup Final, that we are preparing team for the next world cup. What about the test matches, oneday matches or the t20 matches. It means that these same players will be representing our country for the next world cup, which got thrashed from the australians in the odi series, becos there is no backup for these players, and the same thing these players know, and they perform badly becos they have no pressure of losing their places in the team. look at kamran akmal, have u prepared a back up for him. the answer is no. from 2002 till now no back up is prepared for kamran akmal, so how this team going to perform, this is a billion dollar question. look at younis khan he is totally out of touch, poor fellow.

  • Mirza Tanveer Ahmed on January 30, 2010, 16:20 GMT

    One of the worst performance by Pakistan Cricket team and their captain ( Yousef )still believes that his team performance as compared to the previous Pakistani teams was better. What I fail to understand is how he is still living in a fools Paradise. He should look at his own performance first. Whole Pakistan is upset about the cricket teams performance. Now yousef should leave cricket and spend time in Raiwind with Inzi.

    The Senior team should learn cricket from their juniors. At least the juniors fought till the last minute and tried their best to provide fighting end to Austrailians in U19 Final. Unlike the yousef and co.

  • Junaid Patel on January 30, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    You guys have been talking about Australia as if they are gods. They are not! They are bunch of well trained players who fight until they win. The subcontinental majors ie. India Pakistan Sri Lanka are not trained. They are not disciplined, nor they are professional. There might be a couple of players in each team who are focused but overall they are not. Many times in the news it's seen that they were found at this particular bar or they didnt turn up for the practice session. Indians have been improving on that. I'm not saying they are the best. But they are not bad either and are improving. Ian Chappel has rightly said that the indian team lacks class bowlers. Pakistan has the required talent and class to be the world beaters but the selectors dont use them sensibly. Teams have to be selected according to the pitches. That's what I personally feel. And the pakistani team at present are hopeless on the Australian turf. Proper fitness and training is absolutely essential as well.

  • HatamTai on January 30, 2010, 16:01 GMT

    I think both the senior and junior sides lack the Mental Strength and Toughness and they also do not have the self belief and the killer instinct.

    We get get relaxed after getting half the job done whereas the Australians make sure by applying that extra pressure that the other team is unable to escape once they have them on their knees.

    Plus we have the politics and the Groups in the team so that one Group does not want the team to Win unless they are in-charge as the glory will then go to the other Group.

    Lets get a young captain, lets kick out these senior players and lets have modern coaches at least in fielding who knows how to train and how to make fielding fun.

    We also need a batting, fast bowling and spin bowling coaches and may be get Javed Mianadad back as coach of a younger team after we have cleansed it of politics and groups.

    I personally see Pak cricket following the same path as our hockey has taken and we may not win anything big for years to come

  • Fiaz on January 30, 2010, 15:57 GMT

    Its amazing how in Cricket "Islam" again is brought forward as the cause of woes by the Munafiqs or is it a Kafir polluting the comments. It is Maulvi Yousef who broke Viv Richards record, It is maulvi Saeed Anwar who still hold the world record ODI score, It is Haji Shahid Afridi that single handedly one the T20. Looking at the current batting performance Pakistan desperately need the all dependable Inzi, who on his own saved many a match. If they are drinking Piss and eating pork and playing bad then its OK, but if they are following their deen then it becomes the deens fault. Pathetic!!! - So to brainless Kafir called "The Intelligent Man" crawl back down your hole from where you came.

  • Raj on January 30, 2010, 15:55 GMT

    I know exactly why Pakistan does well in the Under-19 and not in the senior format. Simple... most players that Pakistan plays in the Under-19 format are not under 19 years of age. This is typical of the system in there where Shahid Afridi was supposedly 17 on debut and one commentator commented that if Afridi is 17, my mother is still 26. So much for forged birth certificates... !! In short, once their players move on to the senior format where suddenly you play anybody... not really under-19 year old, they falter.

  • Shan on January 30, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    The Pakistani cricket team is getting worse by each day, same as their country! Pakistan is failing to produce new talents these days, thanks to taliban and the terrorists! Yousuf is a big flop!

  • Sakib Rahman on January 30, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    We should just let India, Australia and South Africa fight each other out. Coz they are at a different level. Teams like Pakistan, Srilanka, Bangladesh, West Indies, New Zealand and England should only play matches with each other. Then their would be more competition. There is no fault of Md.Yusuf or his men because they like many sub-continent players play the game with their heart and couldn't match the skill and tactical genius of Ponting's men.

  • Ahmed on January 30, 2010, 15:39 GMT

    please, do not be hurt, its the same fashion like politics and cricket,look our coach, he is too old,but he is coaching and making money like politician,I do not understand, can tell me anyone, why Mohammad yousuf called Mr.Younus khan, what was the reason,before changing team, you must need a cleanup whole management. If we have to loss, why not will try with new young guys. In every statement Mohammad Yusuf is saying ,we are playing good than past. For this man,I have no word, because, I know he has no brain.This is not a super team right now. Australian team members, most of the players are new, and they are not a top team.Our team is much better than australian, if we kick out Mohammad Yusuf,yunus khan,umar gul, rana naveed, salman butt,kamran akmal,from team, we will get better result without them, and at the last interesting thing, Mr. Yousuf is still looking for captaincy fro future, please please as a cricket fan let us alive.

  • Suleman Piracha on January 30, 2010, 15:36 GMT

    The U-19 team should teach the senior players, how to play and win cricket. However, the 'fear' of playing against Austalia is prevaling in all teams. I suggest, give Yousuf, Younas a rest. They don't know how to take risks and bring Razzaq as a permanent member of the Squad Suleman USA

  • Subbu on January 30, 2010, 15:35 GMT

    This pakistan team was only riding on luck from time to time when it won championships. Pakistan team is actually a useless team. They play well only against India due to fervour and not due to passion. From Javed Miandad to Afridi everyone are street players and have never gone through any proper or structured training programs. Also if you see their bowlers most of them are chuckers and easily get away by threatening ICC or umpires(see inzamam's fight against umpires in england). This country treats cricket as a religion rather than passion. Thats why it can only ride on luck and never become a consistent team like Australia or South Africa

  • Usman Zia on January 30, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    I think the best possible solution is to avoid the under 19 team to play domestic cricket ! They showed us they have a will to win but i am afraid that when they play in our pathetic domestic structure, they will lose that self belief. Everone in our domestic cricket plays for themself. They carry this mentality to the international cricket as well. The selectors dont see what the player had contributed to his team, they only look at their individual performance. Until we improve our domestic drastically, some of the under 19 should be drafted into the national team and the others should just go and play in arranged under 19's tours. What do you guys think?

  • Jawaad Ullah Khan on January 30, 2010, 15:32 GMT

    No matter what is the composition of the team as long as attitude does not change nothing will change. To be a winner one has to have winning attitude that is certainly missing in our team.

  • zak_india on January 30, 2010, 15:28 GMT

    pakistan could have done a lot better .. i was hoping they would win the second test and was excited .. but :( ...they could have got a lot of motivation fromt he second test and carried it on for the rest of the series ...I dont think selection procedure and the players have to be looked at. Its got more to do with the mental approach, and captaincy in other words its a management issue.

  • Hammurabi on January 30, 2010, 15:27 GMT

    I dont know what the clown Kamran Akmal is doing in the team. Is the Wicket-Keeping spot his birthright?

    Mohammed Yusuf's assertation that the team is improving is the joke of the century. It's time to throw him out as a player and a captain for this statement alone, and induct someone like Ahmed Shehzad or recall Asim Kamal / Hassan Raza.

    Pakistan needs two seperate teams

    One-Day & 20/20 team

    Salman Butt / Imran Nazir Khalid Latif / S Hassan Fawd Alam Umar Akmal Sahid Afridi (capt) Abdul Razzak (vice capt) Sohail Tanvir / Hammad Azam Mohammed Aamir Sarfaraz Ahmed Mohammed Asif Saeed Ajmal or some other spinner

    Test team

    Salman Butt Imran Farhat / Ahmed Shehzad Khurram Manzoor Yunus Khan (capt) Fawd Alam (vice capt) Asim kamal / Hassan Raza Sarfaraz Ahmed Mohammed Sami / Sohail Khan Mohammed Aamir Mohammed Asif Danish kaneria or some other spinner

    If Afridi plays, he can replace Fawd Alam in tests as both player & vice capt.

  • daddymac on January 30, 2010, 15:27 GMT

    Guys all of you have the same attitude. As soon as Pakistan fail its time to replace the players. The problem is this. There is nothing wrong with the current players, all of them have proven themselves at international level and are all very gifted. The issue is with the PCB and the coaching and facilities to nurture these talents into world class performances. How quickly do you guys start critising. It was less than 6 months when all of you were hailing Pakistan when we won the t20 cup. Did every players talents just dissapear? See look at Formula 1 for example. Jenson Button same driver same talent, shit car did nothing, as soon as he got the right car he is world champion. Lewis Hamiliton best car won the championship, then he had a crap car, talent is still there. So its not the players its the Car(Cricket Setup back home and facilities) and Engineers (Coach, PCB) that is letting down our talanted cricketers.

    Kamran Akmal should not be dropped. He is very talanted.

  • mark on January 30, 2010, 15:27 GMT

    i don't agree why everyone is behind imran farhat since he has not get his opportunity to play in one day squad. My comment for the present team is as below Imran Nazir Imran farhat Shoaib malik Afridi {C) M.yousef Umar Akmal Abdul Razak(vc) Kamran Akmal Mohd ameer Rana naved Sohail Tanvir This should be the eleven players to face a tough australians. Though kamran is poor in wicket keeping but he deserved to be in the team for his blasting and positive approach. Though moh.asif is good in bowling but lacks on his batting since they need a good alrounder to face australians. I am an Indian still a pak fan and will never miss any of the one day matches atleast on watching at net. Very sorry for the pak players for not including in IPL-3. Keep concentrate on cricket you will deserve it finally.

  • Mubee on January 30, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    So many pple here have calld for yousaf to be dropped frm the side,which i find alarming.his captaincy is dismal,& yes we need a new captain,but as a player he is,no doubt,in a league of his own,our batting has been fragile no doubt but bowling is worrying too.i think we havent gotten 10 wickets in this odi series in a single odi,we need another fast bowler 2 who bowls fast and nips the bowl,rao is a dud,he cant bowl,we need a match winner,plz tell me why sami was not given a chance in the odis after his great bowling performance in sydney?he is a genuine match winner,yet we still rely on ppl like rao to get us wickets,as far as gul is concerned,a top class player he just needs a confidence boost and insh. he'll hit top form again.but i think sami shouldve been in the odi's as he is also sort of a tailender that can bat a bit too unlike our current tailenders who never hit double figures, while ppl like hauritz come and hit rao(wow) for 6s.radical chnges in team wont help!!!!

  • M. Khan on January 30, 2010, 15:22 GMT

    It seems that the test defeats and the laidback and nonsensical captaincy has rubbed off on the players - even players who were in some form at the start of the tour look completely out of sorts. Case in point is U Akmal, Gul, Afridi(bowling) etc. It really beats me as to why people are pushing for Hammad to be inducted in Pakistan team? I guess there goes another "have been" a victim of early baptism. Hammad clearly is a decent player but I didnt see anything that will have him ready at the senior arena. especially against australia - please NO! If attitude and fighting spirit(which the team certainly needs) is the only cirteria then a lot of kids on the streets playing tape ball cricket will qualify. I strongly believe that Pakistan is left way behind in this age of professionalism - unless we overhaul the cricket set up in Pakistan cricket we will not be able to compete with other nations like we did with just talent alone!

  • Subrata Roy on January 30, 2010, 15:17 GMT

    Though I am an Indian, I like Pakistan cricket, I see every match of follow scores on Internet. I am hugely disappointed at their performances in Australia. Perhaps the loss in the second test sucked all the energy. They never looked competitive. The team should be changed. Afridi is the best choice for captaincy for ODIs and 20-20s. But, someone is needed for test matches. And the problem is that you will not find anyone. The only way is to convince Afridi to play the longest version of the game, as he previously was not very keen to participate. The entire coaching staff should get the boot.

  • mqislam on January 30, 2010, 15:16 GMT

    The problems: 1. Poor administration with very poor vision. 2. Hopeless selector and coach 3. The above 2 cause in fight in the team. 4. The above 3 brings disorder and frustration.No leadership can evolve. There is no captain in the team in whom one has confidence.

    Solution: 1. Remove Butt, Iqbal Qasim and Intikhab immediately. They should resign.

    2. Remove Malik and Kamran immediately. Retire Misbah, Navid, Gul from ODI and test side.

    3. Bring new players and give Afridi the captaincy for a year for all 3 format and see how he perform. If he fails, Asif can be tried.

    You do not have any match winning bowler and Batsman who can come close to the Australian side. 3-0 white wash was predicted by many of us but we did not expected a 5-0 whitewash in the ODI. This is the result of frustration.

    I have lost confidence in Yousuf for his statement that he wants to remain captain. He should focus on his batting to be in the test team. If Younus can improve, he can come back to the test.

  • oops on January 30, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    dr. sahib you have been at your most thoughtful now that you've overcome your younus obsession. he's too immature emotionally to be captain even though his 'honesty' endeared him to media types like osman and yourself. you two had gone gaga over him and his shenanigans that were totally transparent to us normal types. anyways, its water under the bridge now that we've seen he takes twenty balls to get off the mark, thereby ensuring laying the foundation for defeat after defeat even if he scores some runs, which he doesn't. at least he is honest in that he says openly that he only considers test cricket to be true. well, listen to him and only ever employ him for tests in empty stadiums for the enjoyment of the brahmin purists. as to yousuf, i think he can play test and odi cricket, but not 20/20, but obviously is best at tests.

    next, we've got to find a decent coach, a foreigner who will agree to live in pakistan and not just be a commuter.

    and, who will save us from kamran?

  • SabeerShah on January 30, 2010, 15:07 GMT

    no sir,,,Pakistan team is a'Hopeless case". I'm a patriot and this is the feeling of every pakistani i guess (apart from the PCCB) after the tours toSrilanka Newzealand and the present tour. Team was good inchampions trophy. They way they played was remarkable. Same team is playing now...All running after captaincy!!! the way they threw the matches away inS/L N/Z and now in Australia...these people are notsincere...

    if anyone wants tohave bet with me that Pakistan will win the only T20 match against Australia...i'm in... because these betrayers wants Afridi to be the captain.(which is not bad at all)...but its totallyunfair for the senior players like Younas(a very good captain) and Yousaf(the recrod holder).

    and after when Shahid Afridi will be (for sure) the captain, this team is going to win against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe(i hope so) and then Afridi would be (statistically) a better captain just like Shoaib Malik who had 12 wins forPakistan in ODIs in a row,,but against who?

  • Marlo on January 30, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    SO we are the runner up in U19 world cup. It didn't feel good to not being able to score 208 which was needed to win. BUT at the end of the day, There are some hard facts which are so common in senior as well as junior team. We had only two U19 batsmen who averaged above 30 and Australia came up with 5 batsmen with above 30 av and a 6th with 29,65 in the tournament. To compare, we had only 4 batsmen with 20+ av.

    It was painfull to see pak players playing so poorly to aus spiner and loosing wickets. Once before in time people regarded pak and india to be good players of spin, but looking at U19 as well as our senior team its totally opposite to that.

  • PIER WASIF on January 30, 2010, 14:57 GMT

    i am so disgusted @ disappoited, i do not want anything to write or watch pakistani cricket anymore, these bunch of idiots should be thrown out of the team for good, younus, yousuf, misbah and shoaib malik these are the worst cases in the team, the coach and the pcb should be charge all the money the have made from PCB and thrown out of the cricket world nothing to do with these idiots, bring in new foreign coach and young blood in the team. i believe pakistan will do fovour to themself.

  • Saad Azim on January 30, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    Every single person over here is against M. Yusuf. We just tend to forget how great of a player he is and how well he has served Pakistan. One failure overshadows all his great work. I'm a Pakistani and I hate to say that we have no respect for our senior players. Look at Wasim akram, saeed anwar e.g. They served pakistan for more then a decade and guess what, we discarded them n didn't give respect and appreciation they deserved. Wasim akram had at least 2 more years of cricket left in him and saeed anwar had more. Cricket is a sport and should be taken as a sport. We take it to our heart and when the team doesn't perform well, we start pointing out specific players. Very childish and immature aren't we. Every1 is so hyped about the pak u19 team but if you guys have seen the games, you will find out that they are still very immature in their approach. So, forcing them into the international team isn't going to solve the issue. In short, praise your players, don't degrade them.

  • John Carapiet on January 30, 2010, 14:51 GMT

    I am a Pakistani Ozzie and should be happy my new country is thrashing the living daylights out of the old. Not so. The only true joy I get from the old country is our cricket successes. There has been no such joy in my heart for a while now and the depth of my hopelessness is matched only by the level we have sunk to. Once proud as a cricketing nation we are now craven third raters. Our fielding, batting, leadership, fighting spirit, all reflect the conditions in the country itself....no cohesion, no resilience. And I smile at how quick we are to point out this solution or that.

    Sadly, I see nothing on our horizon that gives me any hope...not even the "flash in the pan" U 19s.

  • Ashraf Ahmad on January 30, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    It has nothing to do with talent and training. Untill and unless the players have no national pride and self respect, ther is nothing you can do to change anything. Most of them play with their own targets in mind and have sence of pride to a such a point that it is hard to explain to the kids as to why there is no will to win.

  • M KHAN OF LONDON on January 30, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Continued from above LESSON 3 – Long term, being professional and having stable structure is the KEY to success. In Pakistan when something goes wrong every tom dick and harry wants their say. You must set up a system that people agree is the best – then STICK WITH IT. The only time in recent history that I can remember the system working well was when RAMIZ RAJA was head of PCB and AAMER SOHAIL was selector (Junaid Zia aside!). LESSON 4 – Keep it simple! When you have sharp educated mind you can pursue complex coaching. When you have uneducated mind, you have to keep it simple (BOB WOOLMER realised this and kept it simple!) LESSON 5 – These lessons are never going to be learned, so just enjoy the roller coaster ride.

  • cheema on January 30, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Afridi is doing his job in 20/20 as captain tremendously.he sould also ODI captain, his performance as captain is also better.He takes the responsibilty better, more excited as captain and donot come under pressure.Yosuf has very poor body language as captain. he is good batsman but he can´t be good captain.And players like Shoaib Malik and kamran akmal shoulkd be out of the team.These players are spreading grouping in the team rather performance.

  • M KHAN OF LONDON on January 30, 2010, 14:47 GMT

    LESSON 1 - At international level TALENT =40% and the MIND = 60%. Changing players won’t make a difference as they will get infected with the wrong mentality. Stick with the team I noted above – then you need to IMPROVE MENTALLY! EG Imran and Wasim were unbelievable strong mentally. Afridi is the only one I can think of in the current team – Captain. LESSON 2 - When you have unruly masses – you NEED strong leadership When you have a third world country – you need tough leadership otherwise things get out of control. The squad is currently out of control. Bring in a tough (but professional) coach who is the boss. If the players don’t like it DROP the player not the coach. Afridi captain.

    Continued below

  • sree on January 30, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    Theres one simple reason why Pakistan is loosing. FOCUS. Was all the focus on IPL? I dont know, but its worth a thought. And wherever the focus, it definitely was not on the present series, cos there is enough talent in this team to be more than competetive.

  • cheema on January 30, 2010, 14:43 GMT

    Afridi is doing his job in 20/20 as captain tremendously.he sould also ODI captain, his performance as captain is also better.He takes the responsibilty better, more excited as captain and donot come under pressure.Yosuf has very poor body language as captain. he is good batsman but he can´t be good captain.And players like Shoaib Malik and kamran akmal shoulkd be out of the team.These players are spreading grouping in the team rather performance.

  • Syed Turab Ali Shah on January 30, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    I know every one will have their own suggestion for the world cup and the leadership. But I think the best cricketing mind in the team right now is M Asif. You can see the way he bowl the way he plan and trap every batsman. The guy has at least 10 to 12 years of cricket in him. Why not make him the captain now. Yes he made some stupid mistakes in the past but so did Ponting in the start of his career M Waugh and S Warn made mistakes but the penalty was only few thousand dollars. Look what’s best for the Pakistani cricket team. Now for the world cup, it will be in Asia so you need imran Nazir for a flying start so the pleasure in not on Salman Butt. Imran Nazir Salman Butt M Yousaf /Younas Khan S Malik Umar Akmal Kamran Akmal Shaid Afridi Abdul Razaq M Amir Saeed Akmal M Asif. 2 Good fast Bowler Please no Rana and Rao, Umar Gul if he is good form. Captain should get full support of the board make either one Afridi or Asif one Captain one V Captain.

  • Ammar on January 30, 2010, 14:33 GMT

    Defeats like these only make a team stronger. If you replace the players right now have now experienced a great team such as Australia are by default superior to inexperienced teams. If you keep replacing the players after every defeat, you will never see a productive team. Each defeat builds a team, and what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger.

    Stick with Mohammed Yousuf, he has learned and he will pull through. He is currently the greatest batsmen of Pakistan.

  • jeeva on January 30, 2010, 14:33 GMT

    I think pakistan selectors should think wise. Already they are down in this series. I wonder pakistan have quality batsman like Imran nazir, Imran Farhat, Abdul Razaaq. Why they are not giving chances to these players. My suggestion if I would select the players. I will definetly go for Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Shahid afridi, Abdul razaaq, Mohammed yousuf, Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, Shoib Malik, Mohammed asif, Mohammed ameer, Umar gul/naved ul asan, Sajeed amer. This team will surely be hard to defeat. we have already saw failures in the batting order most of the time it is time to change the line up and hit.If pakistan still remains unchanged the defeats will continue forever against any team.

  • M KHAN OF LONDON on January 30, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    ONE DAY TEAM

    S BUTT- Of all the useless players he's the best, has centuries against Australia/India. K AKMAL - What idiot dropped him, he just needs some help to work out why he was making drops - loss of concentration - too much pressure? U AKMAL - The future M YOUSUF - Leader off the field, definitely not on the field Y KHAN -Should have remained captain - now ignore captaincy – Form = temporary & Class=permanent MALIK/ALAM - Malik, if he wants this spot, but he shouldn’t open his mouth - Alam, allegedly the second best young batsman in Pakistan, if in, give him a clear run of 10 matches)!) S AFRIDI - Captain on the pitch (should remain humble off the pitch) excellent cricketing brain, excellent spinner, has aggression, extra bowler, can change game with bat. U GUL - Reverse swing M AAMER - It’s about time a new Wasim came along, improve your batting M ASIF -You’re good but not that good to be arrogant S AJMAL -Under rated, needs to be used better by captain SeeBelow

  • jeeva on January 30, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    I think pakistan selectors should think wise. Already they are down in this series. I wonder pakistan have quality batsman like Imran nazir, Imran Farhat, Abdul Razaaq. Why they are not giving chances to these players. My suggestion if I would select the players. I will definetly go for Imran Nazir, Imran Farhat, Shahid afridi, Abdul razaaq, Mohammed yousuf, Umar Akmal, Kamran Akmal, Shoib Malik, Mohammed asif, Mohammed ameer, Umar gul/naved ul asan, Sajeed amer. This team will surely be hard to defeat. we have already saw failures in the batting order most of the time it is time to change the line up and hit.If pakistan still remains unchanged the defeats will continue forever against any team.

  • Pak united on January 30, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    1. Shahid Afridi should lead the team - someone more aggressive and someone who hates losing and thrives on winning 2. Bring Imran Nazir back in 3. Pak Management needs a surgical revamp too !! 4. Every Pak player needs some training in mental strength just like the Aussies. Thank you.

  • Emm on January 30, 2010, 14:10 GMT

    As a country PAK has gone backwards, what can you expect from the ruling body and the cricketers?Pick the wrong leaders and thats what you get.No FOCUS or DIRECTION. Result -failure in all departments. Beat them ALL with a stick, don't perform get lost... this is a country of more than 700 million people, there's always someone better - if only they could get a chance. There is no quick fix solution, sorry!!

  • cricketlover on January 30, 2010, 14:09 GMT

    It has been almost a decade, afridi's batting technique has never improved. Aussie commentators were joking when he hit a six, four etc as they know it is time the a wicket fell. Technique is something we need to withstand an international match. Not concerned about T20 game, as it does not make sense at all. Can he sustain a 50 over match or atleast a TEST MATCH. The answer is defiitely NO NO NO. We are utterly please if he hits a six BOOM BOOM AFRIDI. Atleast it is time he gets his bearings right. Plays straight batted shots, get his technique right from saeed anwar, ramiz raja, salim bhai, inzamam etc because our history is great. The same happened with INDIA and they got a correct replacement in DHONI. Now we need a guy who can get the unit right. Each and every time there is a problem in the team and the management. Please get things right. A problem is not at all one sided and so we have to understand that the PCB and the PLAYERS have to have a right attitude.

  • Michael on January 30, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    Pakistan are facing a challenging time at the moment, that much is certain. Change is needed, because there have been some major flaws exposed. Perhaps this needs to start with the whole system - having political placements running the show so that the implementers at middle-management can't get anything done due to the constant changing of their superiors. De-couple the PCB from the government.

    As for the personnel of the team itself, I would be a little hesitant to scrap all the senior players. Part of the reason Bangladesh has taken so long to progress is they've had few experienced players. Every team needs senior players to guide the younger ones. Certainly drop poor performers but do it in stages so that there is transition rather than wholesale change. If there are several candidates for a spot, priority should be given to players who can field well. And when players are selected, give them several matches to find their feet instead of dropping them after one bad match.

  • cricketlover on January 30, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    The world knows pakistan has talent. We even know that we perform inconsistently. When peple think that we cannot chase we do it and vice versa. I think in the 1999 series when pakistan toured australia, the results were almost the same but razzaq, azhar mahmood, moin khan, ijaz ahmad, inzamam ul haq, saeed anwar, sohail, wasim bhai and waqar along with saqlain and musthaq were there. But the defeat was not this horrible as we know what are these players capable off. Razzqa hit mcgrath for four or five hours in a over and ... Now the problem is full of youngsters and a captain who is soooo humble, good, soft ... good to have those qualitiies for a good human but not for a captain. An attacking captain is the order of the day. But that does not mean afridi. We have a younger side which is capable of bailing out the team but we need a good captain, support staff and a psychologist to make us mentally strong. no afridi as captain. may be younus again. yousuf good as no3.good luck pakistan

  • Nusrat Hussain on January 30, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    WE DON'T QUIT WE NEED TO BE DITCHED OR THROWN DISGRACEFULLY- History of Pakistan would reveal that once in position, we stick to it shamelessly guarding at all cost with no self respect or pride. God knows if Ayub Khan was the only person to quit. Bhutto, Zia, Yahya, Benazir, Nawaz Sharif, Musharraf and Zardari we still have to wait and see. So do not accpact anything different from Ejaz Butt, Bari,Intikhab, Yousaf, Younis, Kamran or Naveed-- They all need to be thrown disgracefully as that is the only language understandable in Pakistani society and culture.

  • Dr Ravi Palur on January 30, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    I am an Indian and across the years have always admired many of the Pakistani cricketers who seemed to have a certain burning desire always in them.This was ofcourse apparent whenever they played against India.Sunil Gavaskar used to always mention that in any cricket match the team that DECIDES on any particular day to win despite all odds is the team that invariably wins in the end.If I had to analyse the present team as a doctor, the most glaring fact that seems obvious is that this team is completely demoralised, demotivated and has lost all its focus.The reasons for this are not clear to me but I hope that the team decides what they ultimately want history to remember them for. Pakistan's loss of their cricketing brilliance is world cricket's loss.

  • Shahid on January 30, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    Abbasi Bhai, the thing I am worried about in Pakistan cricket as a whole is that non of the senior or junior players tend to play big innings. Many of them do score 30s and 40s but not muvh further than that. Same goes for U19 batsmen where a player like Azeem Ghuman with first class average of nearly 50, couldn't make more than 30s and 40s. Then second thing I am worried about is technique. There so many of them who tend to play away from their body and U know it is a suicidal act on turning wickets. Pakistan has always faced problems in bating and I think they need a bating coach on permanent basis. On bowling side, We do boast of a good attack but no its not. We could not take 20 or 10 Australian wickets. Aamer and Asif are ok but we need to find two more bowlers, a fast bowler and a spiner. Need a spiner who can run through the bating lines. I dare not talk about fielding.

  • uzi on January 30, 2010, 13:49 GMT

    I think that the best ODI team for us is the following and in correct order too:

    1. Imran Nazir 2. Salman Butt 3. Kamran Akmal 4. Shahid Afridi 5. Umar Akmal 6. Fawad Alam/Hammad Azam (great young player) 7. Rana 8. Mohammad Ammer 9. GUL 10. Mohd Asif 11. Ajmal

    PLS respond if u agree

  • Salim on January 30, 2010, 13:47 GMT

    Guys stop writing who should and who should not be in the team...The whole team needs to be overhauled...Not a single performance can be applauded..Strong Australian sides were defeated in Tests and ODIs by India and South Africa and see how our Cricket team has played...White washed...I feel these guys dont have balls...They are without balls...Umer Akmal rather should learn from Cameron White who played crucial roles in winning matches for Australia..He has not even score 1000 runs in ODIs & Tests and people have made him hero...a Super Star..Guys Tendulkar has more than 30,000 runs and 90 centuries he is still same guys very down to earth..It is really a shame to watch this series...Look at U19 team...they have also followed their seniors foot steps...Stop watching cricket....

  • Mr.Khan on January 30, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    Wonder why there is no talk of this being a huge insult to the Pakistani people. Probably because there is no Indian money or India involved. Its an absolute shame that our players have the audacity to call them not being included in IPL in spite of being thrashed repeatedly.

  • DK on January 30, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    Read the comments from brothers. But why again again same old names (shoaib malik can only bat on cement track after playing more than 200 games), Butt score a fifty in one match and that's his quota for next 10 matches.

    Please please why dont we once give a chance to young guns. We are losing anyway so why not the young & new faces atleast they will give their 100%.I know nothing will happen and these players (butt,k.akmal,yousuf,younis,kaneria etc) will carry on for next 100 matches after scoring a 100 against kenya on a flat karachi track or 5 wicket haul after bowling 60 overs on a 5th day track.

    So brothers & sisters dont follow it, or if u r following it get your self familiar with these embrassing performances.

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 13:39 GMT

    We need to have at least 1 aggressive opener who can score quickly and allow our 2nd opener to drop anchor. Our 2nd opener must be able to change gears if need be in case our aggressive opener gets out. We often lose early wkts so Our no 3 player should be versatile, solid yes but must not go in to a shell, as the no 3 often bats in power-plays he should be able to score quickly. Our current no 3 Younis khan does neither he hasnt played a long innings for ages and he doesnt score quickly. If you eat up balls at the start of the innings then you have to drop anchor you simply cant throw away your wkt after using up so many balls, you have to bat most of the 50 overs and make up for it by accelerating later. Yousuf at 4 needs to be much more consistent, umar at 5 is fine, Malik or Fawad at 6 or pick both drop Y.khan Wecan also pick both of them by dropping Ajmal, malik and fawad to bowl 10 or more overs of spin. if we have 1 aggresive opener we can replace Y.khan with farhat or latif

  • hafiz ahmad khan on January 30, 2010, 13:25 GMT

    hello;kamran bahi;as every one giving good or bad comments but i think we should go with one pace as aus.sami should play this series he have pace and speed which is helpful.so we shold go with one pace.second for batting our top order are in huries this in not fit for chase like 270.i think we should play sensibally first 15 to 20.overs.as u saw in priovious matches that when our top order flop after that umar akmal and fawad alam made partnerships.if pakistan want to win top order should paly sensibally.don't play rash shorts.ok.by.

  • Raza on January 30, 2010, 13:22 GMT

    We need to give people like Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan a break. Mohammad Yousuf should NOT be captain but he should stay in the time as a batsman so he can focus.

    Younis Khan is under too much pressure by the selectors by dropping him for the tests. He has an average of over 50! This is destroying Pakistan cricket... Next Umar Gul, he should not necessarily lose his place for good but should be given a rest from the team to improve his mind set.

    Afridi should NOT AT ALL be playing at No 6 when there is no hope for the team to do well at a crucial stage.. he should be playing up the order as No3 and as skipper, it would give him an time to score at a runner ball and perhaps build a partnership and lift the team..

    Pakistani players need to click together and perform as a team just they did half a year ago when they won the T20 World Cup.. InshAllah

  • Raza on January 30, 2010, 13:19 GMT

    We need to give people like Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan a break. Mohammad Yousuf should NOT be captain but he should stay in the time as a batsman so he can focus.

    Younis Khan is under too much pressure by the selectors by dropping him for the tests. He has an average of over 50! This is destroying Pakistan cricket... Next Umar Gul, he should not necessarily lose his place for good but should be given a rest from the team to improve his mind set.

    Afridi should NOT AT ALL be playing at No 6 when there is no hope for the team to do well at a crucial stage.. he should be playing up the order as No3 and as skipper, it would give him an time to score at a runner ball and perhaps build a partnership and lift the team..

    Pakistani players need to click together and perform as a team just they did half a year ago when they won the T20 World Cup.. InshAllah

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 13:15 GMT

    For India, Yuvraj and Sehwag are useful bowling options Raina and sachin can also bowl. Butt is a solid opener but i dont consider him an ideal odi batsman as his strike rate isnt great. Some people mention that Khalid latif looked Solid in UAE, the major problem here is that you must have at least 1 aggressive opener to take advantage of the power-play especially With Y.khan at 3 also not an aggressive player and Yousuf at 4 is also more of an accumulator of runs. If your are chasing 280+ and your top 3 dont make use of power play the run-rate quickly rises above 7 and the batsman to come are under immense pressure to keep up with the rate required with 15 of the 20 p-play overs already gone. We saw that against Nz in the 2nd odi recently where Butt, latif and Y.khan batted most of the first 20+ overs and the run rate req was above 7 in no time and the rest of the batting collapsed under pressure. Against top sides you cant have a top 4 who strike at 70 or less.

  • Jawad ali on January 30, 2010, 13:12 GMT

    Asalam o alikum, Enough said already just wanted to say the same thing which my fellow brother has said above that even if IMRAN NAZIR fails he scores same runs as salman butt and much quicker and if he gets out the other batsmen which is obviously no.3 batsmen is having enough time and balls to adjust...No doubt their are alot of hidden talent in pakistan but please do agree with me Imran nazir can only play hook shot no pakistani can play. i wish and pray imran nazir gets his place back in national team not only in 20-20 also in odI...

  • jhongra bhukhari on January 30, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    For every Pakistani, here is an bitter but true enlightment--BOOM BOOM AFRIDI is a glorius past, and is hollow image of his earlier self. there is no way we can rely on this 'sursuriya cracker' let alone make him the captain. Also his barrage for not bein selected for the Indian IPL is banal, and has no weight to his claims. Wake up, comrades, we need to learn a lesson or two from Sehwag regarding being consistent plus being aggressive as well being there for the team, when the need arises.

  • Muhammad Jehanzeb Peshawar on January 30, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    just exculde younis. yousaf,and shoaib malik from team every thing will be ok bcs the on going battle of giants was seen by whole world those three cricketers are making politics in the team and Afridi rightly said that no body is playing for the team every body is playing to cement his place in the team.I dont why yousuf want s to carry on as capitain after giving such pathatic performance both as a captain and as a player simply because his personal performance is not that good so he want to continue as captain so he can play further long at the expense of pakistan loss who care.I request the borad please appoint afridi as captain please dont destroy our cricket time to introduce fresh blood in the team appoint young guys who have performed in domestic cricket and get rid of yousuf younis shoaib who are not scoring thats the only way we can save our cricket other wise days are not far behind when will be standing with minows like holland pls take it from yousuf and gave to afridi

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    Our batsman just dont find the balance between attack and defense either they slog like afridi get a quick 25-30 and get out or they take 32 balls to score 12, in a power play. Now coming to the team combination you cant go with 2 specialist openers unless they are either as good as hayden, or greenidge, or they are allrounders. IN odi cricket 1 of our bowler can easily get injured or have and off day .If you go in with Butt and either farhat or latif then whow will be your 6th bowlig option? Teams like Australia they have world class batsman Aus Ponting, Watson, Clarke, Hussey, White, Marsh yet they go in with 6 batsman + their wkt keeper. India also picks 6 batsman Sehwag, sachin, gambhir yuvraj,Raina and Dhoni+ Jadeja. i consider dhoni as good as a batsman in odis cricket as he averages 50. This is where the team combination of Australia and India is spot on as they have players in the top 6 who can bowl, Watson is a genuine allrounder, clarke, white and hussey can also bowl

  • Jamal on January 30, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I know all the people are sad due to worse defeat of pakistani team. I have seen the A.J team. There is no Mohammed Yousuf. Ok i understand he is not a good captain but he is a good player. No body has still taken the place of Inzamam. These are our real heros as they have saved pakistani team batting no of times as we always treat them soo badly when we lose and they goes out from team in a very insulting way. Changing the captian everytime is not the solution for our team. Why younius khan always runs from captaincy because when every team loses the game , we treat them so badly than he just dont to remain captain of our team anymore and this thing has effect his performance also.

  • Anjum on January 30, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    Reasons of Pakistan poor performance In test= poor fielding and poor captaincy In Odies= Poor captaincy, Poor fielding and poor batting of seniors, like younas, kamran, yousaf Action to be taken in my view: Afridi Should be captain for long run in ODIES and T20. Yousaf should nt be part of odies because of his fielding. Younas should not be part of odi and t20 team. but younas should be captain of test team. In bowling rana and umar should be rested for some time, they should go back to domestic cricket. These should be the guys for any coming Odi series. Salman butt/Imran Farahat Imran Nazir/Nasir Jamshaid Fawad Alm/ Shoaib malik/ Yousaf Umar Akmal Afridi Kamran Akmal/ Abdur-razaq Aamir Asif Saeed Ajmal muhammad Sami

  • khurram on January 30, 2010, 12:39 GMT

    There is no hope, no will and no agressive intent in the pakistani team by any means. you cant expect any miracle from such a bunch of players. its really a shame for cricket that these type of men are representing a nation. Look at the celebrations of aussies, look at their desperateness and their passion. even 7,8 number batsmen are making fifties and look at our captain and senior players. Yousuf, Kamran, Shoaib, Younis and even Salman looks cluless while batting and fielding. Rana is there to retire now and Gul is bowling like a kid with no real line and guidance. We have to exclude them all in order to get a infection free team. For God sake include 5,6 new kids in the team and let them play for atleast a year or so. If these people are to be representing pakistan then there is no hope for us for this game atleast till 2020.

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    Continued. Gul has been struggling for sometime and he is only holing into his place because we dont have areplacement. In the 4th odi Gul was replaced by Rao who went wicket less and gave away 64 runs. Rana neveed adds some batting depth to a fragile top order, but his bowling throughout the series has been expensive 61 of 10 in 1st, 47 of 7 in 2nd 57 of 10 in 3rd and 70 of 10 in 4th odi thats 235 runs in 37 overs.

    Between our bowlers we have not had 1 match winning performance in the series,a 3 wkt haul for Aamer and 1 for asif being the best return. our bowlers have conceded 270+ runs in all games except 1 where they kept australia just below 270.So the fact is our bowling is not as good as we thought it was especially in these conditions.

    Coming to our batting now it was never reliable going into the series but in this series it has been very poor, we have managed 3 50s in 4 odis, 1 each for Butt, U.Akmal and M.Yousuf. U. akmal has looked good in patches. Continued below

  • dibya on January 30, 2010, 12:33 GMT

    i just like write few words, pakistan player are not playing for the country.........they are talented player no doubt... but very self player....they only play individual game not a team game......hope.......those players like younis khan, shaid afridi, shoaid malik mom. yousuf should not be playing in current team.....they are bad influence for the team as such afridi is very talented every body know that.......i believe...and its showing in every game........he is a selfish player and just waiting to get the captiancy position only.........i hope new player are encourge for the future pakistan team........

  • The Hitter on January 30, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    This is totally humiliating even though as a loyal Pak fan i reckon they might get back for the next series. Even though I also mean that u should have the choice between Yousuf OR Younis for the Playing XI ; On of them has to sit out...On of them are wasting a place of in the PLaying XI. And I would also say that Imran Nazir deserve a chance in the ODI squad as well.He is an explosive player and even when he fails he does the same score as Salman Butt but much quicker. And the two things Pak needs to work with is the fielding and batting. Thats just my opinion and here comes my PLaying XI for ODI's

    1.Imran Nazir 2.Salman Butt/Kamran Akmal 3.Younis Khan/Mohammad Yousuf 4.Umar Akmal 5.Shoaib Malik 6.Abdul Razzaq 7.Rana Neveed ul Hasan 8.Mohammad Ameer 9.Umar Gul 10.Mohammad Asif 11.Saeed Ajmal Reserve ; Fawad Alam, Yousuf/Younis, Misbah Ul Haq, Rao Iftikhar Anjum,Shoaib Akhtar.

  • Gizza on January 30, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    Initially I thought the snubbing of Pakistani players from IPL3 was wrong. But after being whitewashed by a depleted Australian side, I think the franchises have in hindsight made the right decision even if the intial reason was political.

    I don't honestly see how even Afridi or Gul deserve IPL contracts after their shabby displays. In fact Ryan Harris has had an IPL contract for a few years now and look where he is. Two five-fors and the way he's bowling is also suitable in Tests so he is sure to get his Baggy Green soon.

  • Mohsin on January 30, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    This should be world cup squad and i think Salman Butt and fawad alam has no place... 1. Imran Nazir 2. Imran Farhat 3. Shoaib malik 4. M. yusaf 5. Kamran akmal 6. Shahid Afridi 7. Misbah-ul-haq 8. Abdul razzaq 9. Sohail tanvir 10. M. Asif 11. umer gul

    Reserve Players Saeed Ajmal, M. Amer, Y.khan, Rana Naveed

  • pery on January 30, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    The Pakistan team is facing a superior side and once it got deflated after the Sydney Test, it was always going to be a difficult task from there.

  • Anneeq on January 30, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    People need to actually acknowledge that Australia played really well in this one day series, that cant be forgotten. But the performance by the Pakistani team has been pathetic!! To me its criminal for an international team, especially one where cricket is really the only sport played in the country to be all out for less than 200. Pakistan have managed it twice with scores of 142 and 127! I just dont get it, the batting line up is good, they should really be beating Australia.

    To me the senior players aren't firing, there is no fire in the managements belly. Yousuf has been really timid, his tactics have been defensive and he just doesnt have a cricketing brain, its also affecting his batting. I dont know what Inzi was talking about when he said Yousuf has a good cricketing brain. Maybe the friend loyalty is blinding his vision because Yousuf has shown clearly he just cant deal with captaincy!!

    A lot to contemplate from the MANAGERIAL point of view because the talent is there!!!

  • Rauf on January 30, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    We can disect this Pakistan cricket cookie whichever way we want but at the end of the day it will be the same result.

    Current Pak players lack basic cricketing skills that are required in Test and ODI formats. Are Aussies more passionate than Pakistanis about winning for their country? NO! But what they have are skills and mindset to pull a win out of any situation. Pak is reduced to 20/20 format as you only need street skills to flourish. Hit or miss is what 20/20 is.

    Why Aussies never won a 20/20 format because they are used to playing proper cricket and that's what they teach from very young age. Pak on the other hand is content with brining in 17 year olds off the street if they can zing the ball or swing a six.

    Pak players from the past played in county cricket and developed their skills accordingly to compete against the likes of Windies and Aussies. It will take a decade or so to fix this if Pak ever want to compete again in Tests and ODI. That's my verdict.

  • Prashan on January 30, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    I am a Sri Lankan and I closely follow Pakistan. First of all what we all must pray is for safety to continue in Pakistan so that international cricket can return. If not, non stop overseas tours will be a drain for the whole team as no home cricket at all.

    I think the 2nd test loss in Sydney was a blow. Who knows, if Pakistan won it their morale would have been high and they would have done better later!

    I believe it is the batting which needs improvement. If not I cant see any issue with bowling. Also fielding also has to improve as well

  • imran on January 30, 2010, 12:14 GMT

    Some of the suggestions made by readers here are laughable, Sami is a proven failure,Tanvir wasnt over looked he is injured. khalid latif an average batsman at best captain in test and odis? yeah right if i go by logic he doesnt even merit a place in the playing 11, salman butt is the # 1 opener if you go with 2 specialist openers you lose a batsman at 6(S.Malik or Fawad)and if you dont pick malik or fawad you dont have a 6th bowling option, just like cricinfo pakistani writers people have also criticized some players completely over looking the failures of others. but what about our bowlers? A lot of fuss was made that our spinners are match winners and pace bowlers will also trouble Australia. But both afridi and ajmal have taken 1 wkt per match( 4 wkts each for the series, going at around 5+runs per over. After Muhammad aamer got injured all of our pace bowlers except Asif have looked mediocre or at times very poor gul went for 70 in 1 match and 80 in the next Continued

  • Sachin on January 30, 2010, 12:10 GMT

    The team for the ODI's should be as below :

    Salman Butt (vc) Khalid Latif Azeem Ghumman Shahid Afridi (c) Umar Akmal Fawad Alam Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) Mohammed Aamer Rao Ifthikar Mohammed Asif Saaed Ajmal

    Reserves : Sohail Tanvir, Junaid Zia, Ahmed Shehzad, Hammad Azam, Mohammed Waqas

    For the T20's let there be only one change of Imran Nazir coming in at the expense of either Azeem Ghumman or Fawad Alam.

    Players like Yousuf, Younis, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Abdur Razaaq should never play ODI or T20 cricket. For that matter, while Yousuf and Younis can be part of the test match team, the remaining three should retire from all forms of cricket. Please let Danish Kaneria not play any cricket anymore as well. Have never seen his 5 wickets cost anything less than 150 anytime. Umar Gul is good - but he needs to rediscover form after which he can be bought back. Misbah-ul-Haq is getting older, so should retire gracefully.

  • Raj on January 30, 2010, 12:06 GMT

    Well Frustrating times for Pakistan. I had been to watch the 2nd one dayer played at the SCG(I really wasted my time and money). Pakistan lack the commitment and will to win. They lack a genuine leader and most of all losing supporters as well. They seem so disinterested and the body language for heaven save at least the sea gulls in the stadium have a better body language than the players. Pakistan should start playing against minnows like Kenya, Scotland U.S.A and Afghanistan before competing against the Test Playing nations. This has been the worst cricket of summer in Australia, hope the West Indies can provide some Entertainment!!!

  • salman on January 30, 2010, 12:05 GMT

    It was good to see the Pakistan Under 25 team perform well against Australia Under 19. Best of luck for the future. I hope you grow older by 1 year every 2 years.Unfortunately 17 year old Mohd Aamer was unavailable otherwise Pakistan would have been world champs.Next time Shahid Afridi should be the under 19 world captain.He has got a mature head on young shoulders.

  • Hamzah on January 30, 2010, 12:01 GMT

    I read some of the comments on here and laughed at their ridiculousness...

    Point 1 - To the people calling for Khurram Manzoor's inclusion in the test team, wake up...have you seen his AWFUL technique, he was a joke in the 3rd test against Aus. He will be ruthlessly exposed on anything except the most FLAT sub-continent wickets.

    Point 2 - The coach is inept and shameless in the way he is not resigning...Our U-19 team field and catch better than the national squad, how embarrasing. What has Intikhab done in his tenure, him and Yousuf have taken Pak cricket back to the 1950s with the defensive mindset.

    Point 3 - Mohammed Yousuf is NOT captaincy potential or material. As much as I admire him as a batsmen and as a humble individual, he just doesn't have the X-factor to be a leader of men.

    Point 4 - It's about time the Rao's, Rana's of this world are droppped for good and Kamran Akmal should also be dropped to work on his keeping and batting.

  • Paki down under on January 30, 2010, 11:59 GMT

    Oh no! Its the end of the world! Pakistan lost a series! Only one person can save them, me!!

    stop thinking like that, surely, we realise that pakistan will never be australia when it comes to consistency, but we can put a few good performances together when it comes to big tournaments.

    relax people, its just a bit of drama... PTV style

  • jamshed on January 30, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    Are people in Pakistan still watching the series ? I didn't bother to even check the score in the last ODI,so predictable was the result.

  • faishal ali on January 30, 2010, 11:31 GMT

    i think younis khan is out of team salman opens with imran farhat or imrana nazir k. akmal on 6th place team like ,.......... 1.imran nazir 2.salman butt 3.shoaib malik 4.mohammed yousuf 5.umar akmal 6.sahid afaridi{cap} 7.kamran akmal 8.mohammed aamer 9.rana naved ul hasan 10.mohammed asif 11.saheed ajmal 12.fawad alam thats it

  • Die_hard paki fan on January 30, 2010, 11:16 GMT

    Try dis team(batting orders same) n i guarantee u success Team 4 da test 1 Khalid latif (captain) 2 khurram manzoor 3 fawad alam 4 amer sajjad 5 m yousuf 6 umar akmal 7 sarfaraz ahmed (wk) 8 m amer 9 shoaib akhtar 10 danish kaneria 11 m asif

    Team 4 one-day 1 khalid latif (captain) 2 nasir jamshed 3 fawad 4 amer sajjad 5 m yousuf 6 umar akmal 7 shahzaib hasan (wk) 8 shahid afridi 9 m amer 10 wahaab riaz 11 m asif Reserve players 4 odi saeed ajmal, s tanveer, imran nazir, anwar ali, m waqaas(back up wk) umar gul, azhar ali

    Team 4 T20 1 shahzaib hasan (wk) 2 imran nazir 3 fawad alam 4 shaid afridi (captain) 5 umar akmal 6 khalid latif 7 abdur razzaq 8 s tanveer 9 m amer 10 umar gul 11 saeed ajmal

    Reserve players imran farhat, rana naveed, anwar ali, nasir jamshed, wahaab riaz, shahid yousuf

  • sudheer R P on January 30, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    I am an Indian. I am pained by the way things are shaping up fo rPakistan cricket team. Surely Pakistan have one of the best talent pool. But that is not converted in to performance where it is required because of various reasons.

    Most of the players in the current lot are lazy. They do not have any pride representing their country. Even during IPL 1 some of these guys were running after discos and models in the night and feeling sleepy in the field next day!The problem is with attitude.No foreign coach can change that. Because apart from May be Salman Butt, no one has a reasonable mastery over English.What you need is a coach like Rashid Latif and a foreign psychological consultant. Even with out a physio the fitness levels are good. But a strong message should be given to the players - perform or get lost! But when you pardon players like Mohammed Asif after all the drug traficking and consuming hullabulla, players will have a feeling that we are indispensable and no can drop us!

  • Sherjeel on January 30, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    I really liked the remarks about Kamran Akmal and Afridi in MUSTAFA's comments. Our cricket crazy nation rate players like Afridi so high which only shows the understanding of the game and the class of players that we produce. As for the rehabilitation of our team, it will never happen to the extent of Pakistani team becoming formidable in the arena. It 'll remain fragile as ever. Our cricket team is in the phase of shaping itself into the other sporting teams of our country like Hockey and Squash. Reasons being, we are MENTALLY weak, we keep our own benefits before our nation, and we boast and really sheer on talent we dont upgrade and modify ourselves to the modern demands of any game.

  • Sherjeel on January 30, 2010, 9:59 GMT

    I really liked the remarks about Kamran Akmal and Afridi in MUSTAFA's comments. Our cricket crazy nation rate players like Afridi so high which only shows the understanding of the game and the class of players that we produce. As for the rehabilitation of our team, it will never happen to the extent of Pakistani team becoming formidable in the arena. It 'll remain fragile as ever. Our cricket team is in the phase of shaping itself into the other sporting teams of our country like Hockey and Squash. Reasons being, we are MENTALLY weak, we keep our own benefits before our nation, and we boast and really sheer on talent we dont upgrade and modify ourselves to the modern demands of any game.

  • Akhter on January 30, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    Why every time Non-performers play player power and become part of the team?Abdul Qadir & Saleem Jaffer must be inducted in Selection Committee instead of puppet Mr.Iqbal Qasim.Players like of Shoaib Malik,Younis Khan,M.Yousuf & Akmal Snr must be shown door due to their poor performance and politics.Results of Green shirts in 2011 WC would be not different than of 2003& 2007.

  • aamir on January 30, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    well i believe pakistan has had an attitude problem always .. they dont work for win it has to come to them and australia never lets that happen in fact they pulled back a win ouy of their guts in second test and they kept hoping that win doesnt regurgitate they didnt wven clench their teeth to try to stop it .. and when have pakistans players been to nets regularly and i want to see one pakistani player in recent times who has shown any chage in technique or temperament after making debut ,, that is what irritates me most , look at their batsmen , not a millimeter longer gorward stride while batting and enjoying getting out to samilar shots again and again ,, cant blame board much .. may be they never accept coaches view and current captaicy doesnt help either he is just happy plying australia and takes it given they have to loose and tries his best with each game that margin gets bigger and bigger .

  • Aditya on January 30, 2010, 8:15 GMT

    This is getting ridiculous -- irrespective of all the crap that's going on in the Pakistan team, they should at least win ONE game!! I mean, come on, Australia are without Mitchell Johnson, Ponting is out of ODI form currently...this is the most beatable Australian team ever, and you guys are struggling to make runs against them???

    I think the problem is that too many of your batsmen are flat-track bullies. I thought Yousuf would do well in Australia but what you need is someone like Saeed Anwar -- he was one of the best ever in all conditions.

    Shahid Afridi is a bowler, not a batsman. There's nothing wrong with him captaining the team -- he should not be relied on to provide batting in the middle order. He should always be in the Pakistan team in my opinion, because he is a very good bowler. And you need a new wicketkeeper. Kamran Akmal inspires absolutely no confidence at all. There has to be someone better at domestic level. Just has to be.

  • waseem sarwar on January 30, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    well. it was always on the cards that Aussie team might crush Pakistan. guys remember Aussie B Team thrashed Team India in their country and i am afraid current Aussie team is far better than visited India.

    For Pakistani team, they lack batting firepower at the Top, you can't expect guys like Umar Akmal, Fawad ALam to get 275+ when they came 40/4 in 15 overs. Senior players should take responsibility.

    For U19's they tried their best but got beaten by a better team on the day but they were unbeaten till final, that great that Pakistan have a bright future and good bunch of young players comming like Hammad,Sarmad,Raza etc

  • chang on January 30, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    If one has to save pakistan cricket....than to the very least sack these players: 1. Shoaib Malik 2.Kamran Akmal 3.Rana Naved 4.Misbah 5.Farhat 6.Faisal Iqbal

    these guys waste 2 or 3 slots from the playing 11 and consequently pakistan team ends up with 8-9 players vs the other 11

  • Mehdi-Singapore on January 30, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    Revamp PCB,revamp the team.Sack who so ever is not a committed team player.Some heads must roll.Get some one from the private sector who is a committed cricket and a country lover to head PCB.Seniors must learn from the juniors in Newzeland or better let them be the senior team.Take out the fundos from the team.PHEW!!WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT.

  • Khurram Humayun on January 30, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Pak cricket team needs major revamping, bring in fresh blood as iam being saying since long. Get rid of Yousufs, younisis, maliks, mibahs, they are old haggard now. Leader should lead from front but not by bitting his nails. And kindly do not induct young players in T 20 format it will really ruin their cricket for good. We need good and talented players for test and ODI's.

  • paddle_sweep on January 30, 2010, 5:51 GMT

    I am getting bored of watching Pakistan team as they keep losing.I think Bangladesh would have put a much better fight against the Aussies.

  • shabbir on January 30, 2010, 5:41 GMT

    I seriously think that most of the seniors should be sacked and new ones should be brought on board,because pakistani team is portraying themselves as bunch of loosers.One more thing ICC should consider tier based system to save the image of the game.

  • Bilal on January 30, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    Kamran I am far too distraught to even comment at this point. Are we as bad as Bangladesh in these sort of conditions? The Bangladeshis I'm sure could have given comparable performances as we are giving so far. It is embarrassing to be a Pakistani sports fan, utterly shocking stuff going on down under. Whats worse is there are no quick solutions, we are being left for slaughtered!

  • Haroon on January 30, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    Yousuf is living in a dream world. If he thinks is batting was "Excellent" in this tour. He cant bat, cant field, cant captain, cant speak English, and cant win toss, maybe on this one he should ask "Aloo" Inzy, Once somebody ask Inzy how comes you win so many tosses, his reply was "Its due to practice" Complete overhaul is needed. If Pak boss dont have the balls to sack players who keep failing then maybe they should be replace. The following players should be axed and NEVER play for Pakistan: Mohd Yousuf,Kamran Akmal,Younis Khan, and Shoabib Malik, also Intikhab Alam should never be allowed near a Pakistan team, the man is some 30 years past is sell by date.

  • Sajjad Hussain on January 30, 2010, 5:08 GMT

    I think captaincy & the attitude to win is the only issue. We have guts & talent but we miss its application.

  • ruchit on January 30, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    @desihungama

    ICC Cricket currently host 3 formats of World Cups.

    ICC 50-ODI World Cup - Champion Australia

    ICC T20 World Cup - Champion Pakistan

    ICC Under-19 World Cup - Champion Pakistan

    Well Pakistan are not the Under -19 World Cup Champions. Don't know where you got it from! Last cup was won by Indians and this time by the Aussies. Seems you prematurely annointed Pakistan as champions. This is what is called complacency! Better guard yourself against it.

  • Mohit on January 30, 2010, 3:44 GMT

    Posted by: desihungama at January 29, 2010 11:19 PM Pakistan has NOT been content in failure. ICC Cricket currently host 3 formats of World Cups. ICC 50-ODI World Cup - Champion Australia ICC T20 World Cup - Champion Pakistan ICC Under-19 World Cup - Champion Pakistan

    Perhaps its worth noting that your info is wrong...Last time it was Virat kohlis Indians who won the U-19 WC and.. this times final is yet to be played in 12 hours time.

  • switch hit on January 30, 2010, 3:26 GMT

    I believe Pakistan had played reasonably well in One Day series. We have to remember that they are up against world's most improved team - that is Australia and in their home soil. They began to show their world champion capability since last year England series. Even they beat India in India comprehensibly. Finally they seem to got recovered from the loss of the legends like Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist etc.. which had not been there for last couple of seasons - the reason they lost against India in CB series and South Africa in bilateral series. So far as Pakistan is concerned they need to improve their batting. Both Yousuf and Younis are out of form - may be their ages caught up with their reflexes against supreme quality of Fast bowling in quicker pitches. Umar Akmal can be a good choice for No 3 or 4. Shahid should start playing longer innings even though that would not help winning match. That will help his team to gain confidence and his captaincy in long run.

  • Reddy on January 30, 2010, 3:16 GMT

    Pakistan's indiscipline, its total disregard for any norms now for ages has been described as raw talent and unchannelled energy etc etc. It was a typical case of spare the rod and spoil the child. ON PAPER. With M.Asif and M. Amer-Worlds best opening pair. S.Butt, M.Yousaf, U.Akmal,Y.Khan,S Afridi,K.Akmal, are world class and among the best. The Pakistani fighting spirit well documented. GROUND REALITIES. The team is in shambles down under against a team that every body fancies. There is more infighting than any fight shown in a game. The politics and indiscipline shown will put any demented politician to shame . The players, the team, the PCB, the sports ministers and the Paki blog readers and contributors are more bothered about the $ lost in IPL than the annihilation of their National cricket team. This is totally unbelievable but in tune with the Paki thinking. Its a shame but who is listening when even the public is more bothered with lost $'s than national pride

  • MARLO on January 30, 2010, 1:24 GMT

    I CAN SMELL THAT NOW CRICKET AUTHORITIES ARE GONNA MAKE AN OTHER STUPID CHOICE AND THAT IS TO MAKE AFRIDI CAPTAIN FOR TEST TEAM. HE CANT BAT. HE CAN GO ON NOT SCORING FOR MONTHS AND THEN MAY HIT IN A FEW INNINGS BUT HE CANT PLAY A LONG INNINGS. HE IS ONLY A ODI BOWLER. RAZAQ WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF U CANT FIND ANY ONE

  • Saiful Ansari, Leesburg VA USA on January 30, 2010, 1:22 GMT

    The senior Pak side is battered & bruised after being beaten repeatedly in a very convincing manner by the hosts. The opposition bowlers like Nathan Hauritz can score a quick fire 50+ while our top recognized batsmen like Yusuf & Yunus tremble when they come on the crease begging to be sent back to the security of the pavillion. The team would not be in dire straits had they methodically taken the opposition bowlers apart. Yusuf has stated that Australia is the number One Team in the world and so this young Pak team can't beat them. Yusuf has mentally conceded defeat. His pessimism is painted on the face of every player and was visible to everyone as the Pak batsmen came out for 4th ODI and destroyed themselves in front of millions of viewers. It was another batting circus and none of the batsmen showed any real belief in chasing or making the chase happen.If they play with this mentality a 5-0 drubbing is inevitable. The great Afridi threw his wicket with a skied catch instead of play

  • pakchut on January 30, 2010, 0:53 GMT

    Sack yousuf and kamran akmal asap.Start over from scratch.Afridi in team but not captaincy material.

  • Zaheer Dostana on January 30, 2010, 0:19 GMT

    @Mr. Ijaj Butt,

    By revoking the NOC you have proved that IPL people were smart and knew about your knee jerk tendencies (except SRK who showed late late interest in Abdul Razzak and got slapped in face by tantrum throwing PCB chairman) and decided to stay away from bunch of drama queens.

  • Asif Sarfraz on January 30, 2010, 0:17 GMT

    Ijaz Butt has to go... Why is the president of the country looking after the cricket team, when he can not even loo after his own country... Yousaf and Younis are has beens, need to get in other players... Afridi has to be captain for all forms of the game... Come on after this they have to do a complete reshuffle of the structure of the PCB! I'm watching the U19 final right now... and I hope these boys make it into the senior side!

  • MG on January 29, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    Pakistan has been trashed so badly by Aussies that they have started following U-19 as real cricket. I have never seen so much enthusiasm in U19 by Pakistan than this time. They're mentally reeling really low seems and also due to non-participation in IPL, they probably have no where else to look. Sorry state of Pakistan after 6 months of happiness.

  • Ram Bharose on January 29, 2010, 23:26 GMT

    Whatever spin Kamran tries to give to the situation in Pakistan cricket, it is a well known fact that this group of Pakistani cricketers lack the basic cricketing skills and are "freakish". It appears they do not work hard in improving their fielding skills and do not have any consistency in their performance. This Australian tour has showed that they do not have any "fighting spirit" which was there in earlier Pakistan cricket team.

  • desihungama on January 29, 2010, 23:19 GMT

    Pakistan has NOT been content in failure.

    ICC Cricket currently host 3 formats of World Cups.

    ICC 50-ODI World Cup - Champion Australia

    ICC T20 World Cup - Champion Pakistan

    ICC Under-19 World Cup - Champion Pakistan

    Beat that..

  • Dark ages on January 29, 2010, 23:02 GMT

    The malaise prevalent in the Pak team is not surprising as it reflects the situation in the country as a whole. Bombings and assassinations, religious intolerance, corruption, inefficiency and cronyism. Want to divert attention away from spineless performance in Australia? Bash the IPL. So why are people surprised at the way the cricket team conducts itself? These are professional cricketers but cannot read match situation. Examine a lot of the dismissals -the wrong shot at the wrong time. But it happens so often that it cannot be put down to bad luck. The fielding is plain awful - there is no pride in the work. Fielding is considered to be on a par with menial work that only servants do. This was same for Indian teams until recently - even they have now realised that it only takes a handful of incidents of sloppy fielding to give opponent 15-20 runs. No computer anaysis or effective fielding practice. Get real. Enter this century, leave the Dark Ages you are in. What a waste of talent

  • khan on January 29, 2010, 22:48 GMT

    @ Mr Asif,

    I was using Afridi as an example.. the same applies to all the players.. and u seriously think the "senior" player Afridi does not have a say about where he wants to bat... ur under an illusion mate..

  • khan on January 29, 2010, 22:40 GMT

    HOW TYPICAL us pakistanis know only one solution.. kick this guy out or that or an other..

    no emphasis on trying to tackle the real problems.. but yea who cares about those.. its just easier to bring in new people to bag later on.

    the easier scapegoat is obviously the captain.. but he is not the only one dropping catches.. missing runouts.. giving over throws and the lot.. I think part of the problem are most of the commentators and the author of this blog.. typically reactive and NO INSIGHT into the issues.. thats true for our politics and unfortunately for our cricket as well..

    Khan

  • ALIA on January 29, 2010, 22:33 GMT

    Imran Nazir should be in the one day team....he cant do any worse than Butt / Akmal. Khalid latif looked solid in odi's against NZ and made a 50 yet he has played no odi's in aus....we are 4-0 down and most likely it will be 5-0 but this is a good chance to try some of the squad players and rest yousaf.....Pakistan is lacking leaders to take responsibility and achieve something for the country.....this tour has been embarassing

  • Outraged on January 29, 2010, 21:44 GMT

    Can someone tell M.Yousuf (and the coach) to stop insulting our intelligence by giving lame excuses and saying " we are doing well".

    Millions of outraged fans are asking: is that's the best we can do out there? Where is the pride (ghairat).

  • oops on January 29, 2010, 21:42 GMT

    asif, you're so right about this mr. khan guy. what a blind bat!

    poor afridi is sent at number seven when he must do or die, either deliver on the colossal RRR or die trying, because idiot top order men like younus khan have wasted 20 balls to get off the mark.

    afridi is the only man other that imran khan who won us the world cup. what has this mr khan ever done himself to have the audacity to spout this venom against the only lion in pakistani cricket today, shahid afridi.

    right now only afridi can save us from utter humiliation at the world cup awaiting us if he's not made in charge without any delay whatsoever and a new crackerjack forign coach appointed forthwith.

    AFRIDI FOR PREZ!

  • Asif on January 29, 2010, 20:50 GMT

    This is my reply to the above comment by mr.khan that hauritz played better shots than afridi.Why only afridi what about younus khan,yousuf,butt & others.Mr.khan should know that afridi bowled brilliantly in all the matches & batted better than all his other team mates.What do u expect from afridi when u send him at # 7 with the asking rate climbing to 8 runs an over.Just remember when u send afridi at # 3 in 20/20 wc he took the responsibility & led pak to victory in the wc.Now the time has come for younus & yousuf to retire from one day & afridi should be be immediately appointed captain for all the formats of the game.

  • oops on January 29, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    dr. sahib, couldn't agree with you more.

    don't see why its taking so long to dump yousuf and younus. twenty balls to get off the mark by the latter in an odi? the guy's past his sell by date.

    hope all those loudly clamouring for this crybaby drama queen will now shut the f**k up for good.

    long term there are many solutions, but for now, we need a damn good foreign coach and afridi as skipper for all forms of the game. don't want to hear any crap from those arrogant neanderthal idiots who think test players are the brahmins and the one dayers the dalits. these idiots naturally think afridi is a dalit.

    also this crackerjack foreign coach should give selection leeway to afridi and also to further psych him up for the world cup hero only he can be. nothing short of this will do.

    AFRIDI FOR PREZ!

  • MANSOOR MEMON on January 29, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    Pakistan Bowling attack was termed as dangerous before this BOUNCER series. Not any more i guess. No Matter what we can do, bring Foreign coach, bowling coach(currently Waqar), catching coach, yadi , yadi , yada, without passion for country, no player can play good cricket. I am asking myself , should I watch the 5th ODI ?????

  • Ahad on January 29, 2010, 20:44 GMT

    I don't think a team had disappointed fans as much has Pakistan as this series. At least this series has shown the desperate need of action and change in the team/board..

  • gold on January 29, 2010, 20:21 GMT

    Our batting stinks, I mean seriously, it's so unreliable that you never know when they're gonna collapse. We didn't replace any of the top batsmen we had in the past i.e. Saeed Anwar, Inzimam etc. Our team is only made for 20/20 games, not onedays/tests. Why the hell is Rana Naveed included in the 12 man squad? He gives up 7 runs per over every game, kick this guy out. Yusuf shouldn't be the captain, for God sakes, give Afridi the cap, he has leadership skills in my view. And where's Sohail Tanveer?

  • Faisal_London on January 29, 2010, 20:03 GMT

    According to Yousuf " we performed better than previous pakistani team touring Aus". For the love of god even west-indies performed better than pak this summer in Aus. We should learn from SA. They didn't win the series against Eng and the whole selection panel is changed to revive their cricket. Bring ex-cricketers who know about cricket fitting in positions from Chairman to the selectors. Axe consistent non-performers like Misbah/Shoab Malik no matter how much support they have from other players in the dressing room. Umar Gul needs to work on his performance. He goes into non-performing mode every now and again. Where are his Yorkers which he use to bowl in T20 WC?? Finally but most importantly why do we keep playing Rana/Rao Iftakhir as backup bowlers when we have bowlers like Sohail Tanvir/Sami ???Wake up PCB!! No one is expecting Pakistan team to win the final ODI. BUT Please loose with some dignity while fighting!!

  • Mustafa on January 29, 2010, 20:00 GMT

    Kamran Akmal’s continuous inclusion in the side is simply baffling not only to me but to the whole cricket crazy nation of Pakistan. Kamran Akmal has brought so much shame and grieve to the whole nation that he should have been castrated publicly upon arrival to country. Younis Khan has never been an ODI player and should not have been called as he is still struggling for form. Just to save him some blushes, Younis should have opted out of this ODI phase of the tour. Yousuf’s own ODI form is a big question mark (?) as his place should have been evaluated too. Salman Butt scores run in one match and sleeps for next 10 matches. What the hell Khalid Latif is doing in Australia, relaxing at nice Australian beaches or gambling in Casinos? Two “Rs” Rana and Rao are well past their prime and should consider retiring gracefully. Instead of these old horses, Anwer Ali and Sami would have given these Australians run for their money. Afridi is hit and miss player with no brains. Such a sha

  • RR on January 29, 2010, 19:23 GMT

    SACK Mr.Ijaz Butt....he is useless. Immature and childish most times & outright stupid at other times. His handling of the crises when SriLanka visited, was a joke. He added more damage..... With his comments and antics. Pak team is self destructing in Aus.. and he is busy with contrasting comments everyday about IPL and is revoking NOC for pak players .... It is exactly this kind of unpredictable and knee jerk reactions from Pak Gov and PCB that made IPL not to select pak players.... But IPL is a commercial showcase.... FOCUS ON THE NATIONAL TEAM IDIOT....Somebody please.kick this joker out!!!!

  • Khalil Ahmed on January 29, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    Pakistan senior team looks like a bunch of pathatic looser who are quite content with their loosing sequence. There is no leadership, no coaching and no life in the team. Players cricket is no better than the sleepy zombies. They are playing cricket which is inferior even to Banghaldeshies. Under 19 team would perform better if they play with the Australian National team because they Under 19 boys are full of life, energetic and want to win. Thanks,

    Khalil Ahmed

  • Shahid on January 29, 2010, 19:06 GMT

    Younis, Yousef, Kamran, Shoaib, Imran Farhat, Umar Gul are the players at risk to lose their places. But before all this Iqbal kasim should be shown the door as he should take full responsibility for the selection. Hammad Azam, Naved Yasin,Asad Shafiq, Abid Ali and Hassan Raza should be who make their entry. WORK on their fielding, it hurts to see umar Akmal, Aamer, Butt dropping catches. Butt is THE worst fielder and should know it him self. Kaneria is a player I dont like to see in the team, his 5 wickets always cost 200 runs. Even after so many years he can bowl one full toss every over and can take 20 over to correct his line.

  • qasemh on January 29, 2010, 19:01 GMT

    Defeatists attitude is contagious. I wonder what would happen if the captains of the two teams were swapped for last ODI. That would be quite interesting!! Yousuf's eagerness to remain captain of the side is as disgusting as Kamran Akmal's refusal to rest out during the third test. Someone rightly pointed out, Pakistanis are a stubborn bunch with great capacity to self-destruct.

  • kazim on January 29, 2010, 18:49 GMT

    I think that all the comments made thus far seems to miss the point of Pakistan's performance on this Australian tour.This present Pakistan team is a very ordinary cricket team,and I mean ordinary,they will have problems defeating some club sides in the West Indies or Zimbabwe for that matter.They are quite content to score 30 or 40 with two fours and a six and then stupidly get out by playing a stupid shot.One only has to look at Shahid Afridi,Umar Akmal,and his brother to understand what I've just wrote.They seem to be incapable of judging the state of a match and acting accordingly.Selecting a bunch of jokers such as Younus Khan,Umar Gul,and Salman Butt,isn't going to help the team.A quality bowler like Shoaib Acktar is left out of the team because of his genital warts,he would have been a handful on those Australian wickets.I can see the obituary of Pakistan cricket being written soon with a side note,thanks to the PCB.

  • taxzu on January 29, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    When Moyo enters the gound to feild, the only thing that is on his mind is that how to restrict Australia to 300. He never thinks that pakistani attack can restrict them to 250 or 200. Today Aus were 110 for 4 and the great moyo was relaxed and was happy giving singles. Not for one second he though of getting wickets or applying pressure. This has been the practice for last three games.He never talks to bowlers, he is pathetic fielder and what not. And the worst part is that he transforming other player to be like him. He has injected a big dose of negative thinking into other players. And i beleive, If moyo will be captain for last match we will loose it too. It like he is carrying some curse.

  • Abdullah on January 29, 2010, 18:39 GMT

    I think bringing Inzi could be a good idea. He was a terrific player against pace and is exactly the sort of batting coach the pak players seriously need. I'm not asking him to become the fielding coach though.........

  • Abdullah on January 29, 2010, 18:31 GMT

    Nice, classy performance by our esteemed cricketers. They really have the will to win the WC2011! It is time pcb stopped being so STUPID and took the right decisions. 1. Sack Ijaz Butt. This guy's real liability for Pak cricket. Bring some former cricketer to the top (not miandad though). 2. Make Afridi skipper 3. Let younis spend more time with family and friends. 4. Try M Sami in place of Gul/Rao. 5. Give no.3 position to Umar Akmal. Things could turn out to be better if they wanted to. But it is a BIG "IF".

  • walji on January 29, 2010, 18:17 GMT

    there is a saying one rotten onion will spoil the whole bag.I believe in astrology science to some extent and according to it captain star under heavy clouds.Change the captain and you will see the difference .

  • Dr.M.S.A.Iyer on January 29, 2010, 18:10 GMT

    Sir, at this moment I ld like to revive the interview of Ijaz Butt that U19 WC win over India is answer for IPL snub. But whats pity on Pakistans part is there is nothing to be said of Senior team. India did loose to Oz in ODIs. But apart remember 2 off them were anybodys game till last ball. Can you show a show half of that standard. Then why talk on denial to play IPL. Shame on PCB. Poor Pak fans. U deserve much better.

  • Nafees on January 29, 2010, 18:08 GMT

    Get rid of fools that say we played better cricket even a street team would have performed well. We need privatization in PCB, all forign management n rid of those sleeping in elephant's ear. Yousuf you can only defeat Ausies on dooms day. Don't b kid yaar v r not kids.... Same traditional political statments. Ban all members of pak team 4 one year n let them play Quaid's trophy with physico classes

  • Abbas on January 29, 2010, 17:51 GMT

    Amazing...Why is everyone out here shouting for Afridi.. he is just a bowler and a 20 20 cricketer.. see his hits ..without logic..he does not know how to stay at crease and you guyz want him to be a captain of test matches..come on guyz... gimme a break

    offcourse a worse performance than ever by a Pakistani team... why is Yousuf not stepping down and reiterating that the team will perform better... no we know they wont...just step down if u cant handle the bunch of guyz....drop younus unless he gets in form..no doubt he is a good player but if he is out of form..why picking him up again and again

    and no hammad should not be pushed in too quickly..let him groom man.

    i hope that Pakistan loose the last match with dignity atleast..because there is no hope of winning the match..

    make us proud by loosing with some fight YOUSUF

  • Nafees on January 29, 2010, 17:43 GMT

    Get rid of fools that say we played better cricket even a street team would have performed well. We need privatization in PCB, all forign management n rid of those sleeping in elephant's ear. Yousuf you can only defeat Ausies on dooms day. Don't b kid yaar v r not kids.... Same traditional political statments. Ban all members of pak team 4 one year n let them play Quaid's trophy with physico classes

  • Rampur Key Sholey on January 29, 2010, 17:35 GMT

    It is very clear why no one picked Paki players in the IPL auction. Who wants to invite dysfunction to the dressing room. Plus if PCB showed 10% of enthusiasm about fixing the team that they are busy showboating about IPL auctions, the team would be much better off.

  • Syed Nayyar Uddin Ahmad on January 29, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    Kamran, how can you say that Pakistan U19 team may not be one of the two best teams in the tournment. This is very harsh writing about the team playing final and which remained the only unbeaten team in the tournment. Sir, very humbly the whole nation needs an explanation of your write up.

  • Sidiq-ul-haq on January 29, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    Raza Hasan, Sarmad Bhatti, Usman Qadir, all in U19 team, they are so talented, pls bring them in the senior squad.

  • Splendid on January 29, 2010, 17:01 GMT

    It is high time to do evaluation of complete cricket board and hand over the admnistration in professional hands with short term, mid term and long term objectives. The first agenda with in cricket field should be NO POLITICS or else exit door irrespective of player status. One signle unit i.e. TEAM is required take for example U19 on the field.

    Shahid Afridi as a leader motivate youngsters to deliver the good.

    We should not be talking about reycling of old, tested and flops anymore on the forum here.

    I still believe a proper guidance and team without politics can show much better if not world beater.

    Let us all think poitive and stay positive for positive results to follw sooner than later.

    Good luck for U19 in finals.

  • Fazayal on January 29, 2010, 16:50 GMT

    Mr. Kamran, the only reason why indians and pakistanis do well in junior sports is because....well you and i know the reason....they are overage....they keep on playing junior cricket when they are in prime....naturally adapting to the quality of senior cricket is difficult...where are hasan raza, mohad kaif and others nowadays??

  • pardesi on January 29, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    Replacing players will bring the same result until and unless you change each player's approach towards the game.How do they prepare for individual matches.Do they ever study each opposing players tendencies?Do they watch video tapes of opposing players.What are a batsman's weaknesses,how does a bowler deliver his next delivery after a bouncer and how often.We unfortunately rely almost always on net practices. We need to change how we prepare for matches.Matches are won in the video rooms even before you step on the ground. Nothing will change until we change the whole system of training and preparing. This Pak team is pathetic at best. They cant win. Its time to get back to the drawing board.

  • khalid on January 29, 2010, 16:41 GMT

    Can anyone please explain me why Kamran Akmal is in ODI team consistantly?

  • Faisal Durrani on January 29, 2010, 16:38 GMT

    It's the PCB and it's cronies that r responsible for this. Yusuf is the worst ever capt of Pakistan. I think my kid can do better captaincy. The team went thru motions in these one dayers, not to say anything abt the test series. Yusuf still has the approach of "ALL IS WELL". He shud be removed from captaincy immediately and let Afridi be the captain in all forms. There shud be three separate teams, onefor each format. The new players from U19 can be given chances into t20 and gradually into ODI and then into tests after assessing them. New kids r hungry the old ones r rotten. PCB leadership shud also be chnaged with some young shoulders. Batting coach is needed alongwith fielding coach, and an excellent keeper needs to be nurtured. Ther is no harm in throwing Hammad in the deep end as Pak history is filled with such examples and have been successful with this approach.

  • waheed khan on January 29, 2010, 16:37 GMT

    hahahaha u just go through the previous blogs i just comment in that u will c 3-0 in test and 5-0 in odis defeats when pakistani team touring nz and aus and it happened. Do nothing just get rid of ploitics from pakistan cricket everything will b ok

  • Nazshah on January 29, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    I beleive IPL-3 fiasco distracted the focus away from the ODI'S against rampant OZ'S, who don't give second chances to any team. Javed Miandad a passionate and true patriotic Pak cricketer rightly said "Play for your country with pride, not for the sake of money in the IPL". Since the begining of the IPL, India has benefited a lot by bringing intrnatioanal cricketers to play in their backyard which is inspirational to young cricketers. Pakistan has't played home matches which has contributed a lot to their down fall The remedy lies in loving your country, feeling proud to get the green cap and forget about IPL for the time being. A foreign coach will help a lot. Psycotherapy and not letting the pathetic looking Yousuf to lead this team which needs a leader. Afridi might not be a good leader for the tests. There is nobody currently in the team who is a tru leader. Get Azim Ghuman fro under-19 team for the test matches. He sounds to be a cool headed mature young gun, may be it will work

  • Zaheer Dostana on January 29, 2010, 16:34 GMT

    PCB is playing a nice game. To deflect attention from defeat of this historic proportion they keep on trying to focus attention on IPL auctions. While Pakistan is not winning a single match down under, and not even coming close to winning one, PCB is playing this cynical game of blaming everyone but themselves. Some of you, even smart people, have played into their hands including Kamraan. It is time for accountability and not shifting blames.

  • Muhammad Usman on January 29, 2010, 16:19 GMT

    It is not only about players performing. the only thing to take care of is the combination and team effort.

    I really don't want to pinpoint one player because everyone is performing but on individual basis in some match. Like Farhat scored hundred and Gave couple of good innings, so did Butt, Kamran gave good results in NZ, Yousuf scored in some, so did Afridi Allround performance in some matches. but the only thing missing is combination and a team effort.

    The first thing to consider is a good leader and i will put my finger on Shahid Afridi (Obviously lot of ppl will not agree) Second thing Teams Fielding (Top Priority), Third Please have a look At some good coach. Finally we have To pinpoint our bench Strength if any player is injured.

    And Please if any player reading it please play for the pride of Pakistan instead of your personal interest.

  • Jack Hosnard on January 29, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    Before the series started..Pakistani self opinonated fans here were howling on how good the Pakistani bowling was and it was best in world and yada yada yada....Also Hauritz was called a useless bowler compared to Ajmal and Afridi....Well now lets look at facts in real world....Hauritz gave 2 match winning bowling performances and one better than afridi ODI batting performance....The so called great fast bowlers failed to get 10 or 20 Aussie wickets be it tests or be it ODI, and most of the time the Australian tail was hardly batting...and declarations by Pontingwere routine...Contrast this to Australian bowlers..the more new the bowler the more wickets he got for Pakistan...Great bowling unit Pakistan has got..I hope we never get such excellent bowling unit who find it beyond them to get 10 wickets of so called -Medicore- austrlaian batting lineup compared to batting strength of past ;)

  • ilyas on January 29, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    After the loss at Sydney I stopped watching Pakistan as it was quite clear that some of these players lack heart and are being led by a Captain who cannot see that the ship is sinking! A lot of these players have done well in the sub-continent but lack the guts to fight it out in a differnet environment. Successful sides of the past had guts as well as talent and this side is woefully short of both.

    A change in captain is essential for Pakistan to start playing cricket in an attacking rather than defeatist manner. Afridi has many flaws in his game but at least he has passion and gives it his all and therefore may lift some of his team mates to play with the same sort of passion. He surely cannot be a worst bet then the timid Yousuf!

  • John Andrewas on January 29, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    I guess even after 4-0 defeat ,Pakistanis still have not figured out why no one purchased Pakistani players at IPL auction. The frnachise owners were smart enough to understand the capabilities (or lack of it) and did not just want to distribute money with no returns on investment. Like in Afridid case in IPL ,his genral atitude was casual and it seemed he was least interested in performing , jhe just wanted to rake in the $$$ .But seems like happy Indian $$$ days are over for him.As for Pakistani fans its humourous and funny to note that they claim they are not interested in IPL where professionals from world play seriously.... but are more interested in U-19 kids games where only team that perhaps takes it seriously is India and Pakistan and others just know that resutts in kids u-19 dont matter at the mens level games as demonstrated by Pakistan men vs Australian team in the real thing.

  • Amir on January 29, 2010, 16:02 GMT

    Its not just cricket, we lack in planning/leadership in almost every department of Pakistan. When incompetent people are leading us we cannot expect anything other than what we are facing at the moment. Its time to think, its time to be serious, its time to be practical, its time to be optimistic about our future.....It really hurts to see everything getting scattered. As long as cricket is concerned, I dont think any player should be kicked out. The only way out is make a plan and stick to it. Plan should be "You can't be a part of the team unless you perform"...Plan should be a backup of every player (openers, bowlwers, wicket keeper etc).For instance, right now there is no one enough experienced to replace Kamran Akmal as a WK. We got rid of him in one match and had to bring him inn in the very next match.When the players know that no one is there to replace them that affect their performance. "Make them fight to maintain their position in the team"....Thats the only solution.

  • Rauf on January 29, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    The manner of defeats on this Australian tour is very surprising. Other than day one of 2nd test, Pakistan has been beaten or better yet spanked by the Aussies at all other times in batting, bowling and fielding. Even Zimbabwe would have ended up winning atleast two consecutive sessions.

    Teams are as strong as the weakest links and this Pakistan team have plenty of weak links. Maybe we should just wipe the slate clean, take everyone from U19 team and promote them to team Pakistan. Current bunch is just on a holiday trip to Australia. I bet they won't forget their shopping lists before boarding the planes back to Pak.

  • Mansoor on January 29, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    No one can predict a magic solution for this team or .... but atleast we can see who does not belong in the Pakistan team. It is obvious that M. Yousuf is not a captain material. Since he took over as captain we lost a good batsman. He should only play test matches. It is obvious that Kamran Akmal should not be the wicket keeper, Pakistan lost quite a few matches because of his bad keeping. Shoaib Malik, Younus, Salman Butt, Imran farhat, Misbah, Rao Iftikhar and Dinesh Kanaria should be out for good. Umar Gul and Rana Naved are declining. Intikhab should be replaced with a real coach.

    WARNING: Inzimam as batting or any coach??? PLZ NO. That will be the last nail for Pakistan cricket.

  • haya khan on January 29, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    all is said by fans. no one can bring change in pak cricket unless they make themselves committed. none of the cricketers are ashamed . every time in pakistan we see after loss full or partly changes in selection commitee , coaching staff , captain and player but never see any betterment. i think none of player in the team play for pride of country. some are involved in politics and some in other activities. God help us.

  • M. AKbar on January 29, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    It has become quite predictable who will score and when in this team. It will be the person most likely to be axed in the next 11. A bunch of self-centered and selfish individuals. To top of an idiot heads the PCB. Ijaz Butt is a disgrace to Pakistan and its people. There was a time when I used to get angry, now it is only tears and heartbreak. I think this is the beginning of a sad demise of another popular sport in our country, like hockey and squash. Then one looks at our U-19 team and a glimmer of hope for our future shines through. You bet we have talent and passion in cricket. Unfortunately, we have somehow gotten better at destroying it.

  • Muhammad Saidul Haque on January 29, 2010, 15:35 GMT

    Assalamulaikum Kamran Vhai, I am very much sure about Pakistani players and peoples’ mental psychology while playing against especially SOUTH AFRICA & PROFESSIONAL AUSTRALIANS; few more Pakistani peoples emotionally do not want to support their own nations during those telecasted live moments. The Pakistani peoples have been losing their own National Cricketers’ dependability. Because, during these years most of the Pakistani players certainly have been involved in conspiracy with revolt against each other, match fixing for earning illegal money, jealousy appearance, disruptive teamwork, to perform selfish tendency to stay at first eleven etc. Now, the true time has been come so much years ago for Pakistan cricket to change full Board Management to give chance the obedient fresh blood who must be deep honest in his heart, fully energetic & disciplined, extremely love his own country like a true-fair patriotic approach with the best communicated relationship between players always.

  • Arshad on January 29, 2010, 15:16 GMT

    In my humble opinion, if Pakistan keeps the same team for the 5th game, they enter the ground as loosers. Mohammad Yousuf is a nice man, but is too concerned about keeping the captaincy, and will never be able to lead any team to victory. Salman Butt is a good batsman, but far too lazy to be on a cricket field. Kamran Akmal, ... oh well. Rana Naved is a hard worker but well past his average(let alone good) days. Shoaib Malik is another off-the-field player any team could do without.

    I think Pakistan's strategy for the world cup needs to be to find a political angle to not participate at all.

  • khalil on January 29, 2010, 15:05 GMT

    SA has sacked its whole selection panel to reform its cricket. Pak should also do some soul searching & cleansing of its cricket set up/team after the AUS debacle. I once again say that if we had sent our A/B or even U/19 team to AUS/NZ,they would have been better placed, compared to this club level performance by our national team. If they had even lost in the same manner,it would not have been so hurting. It,s THE TIME to do some purging. Encourage young blood. It will be better for our cricket as well as, we the spectators.

  • Imran Khan on January 29, 2010, 14:58 GMT

    And also please bring in Mansoor Amjad. He is a class leg spinner and he is young. He is also good with bat. He took 3 wickets in his first and only T20 international and after that he was never given a chance, pathetic. And also Nasir Jamsheed, he score 3 fifties in 5 one days and is not given a chance, PAK SELECTORS ARE A JOKE ? WE SHOULD ALL LAUGH AT THEM HAHAHAHAHA......

  • roshan on January 29, 2010, 14:56 GMT

    some strange reason success U-19 does not translate to seniors team which matters the most.

    Rest of the World, try to polish the talented and fine tune their youngsters, while pakistanis try to keep them raw and who eventually disintegrate.

    What is the point? Pakistani talk about talent so much, while the world sees the other way, they dont stand a chance in tougher environment, they dont have the consistency and skill to perform regularly.

    There are so many examples of good batsmen and bowlers from pakistan who went down the drain after showing tremendous potential. Alas! Potential is the last word, it doesnt do beyond that.

  • Asad on January 29, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    Asad from USA...

    I told before Yunis is not in a good form...just see his performance of the last 3/4 months.. kick out all the old haggereds..poor reflex, poor selection of shot...actually its a burden.... Yeah!! Afridi should be the ODI captain..if Pak wants to do something good in coming World Cup. Pak should have to do some plan for the next World Cup....Inject some new blood in the team and make them mature for the coming world cup.... Anyway... Pak is losing each & every series.. What's wrong with trying some young guys !!! Is Imran Nazir is not fit ?? he is in ODI squad..

    K. Akmal should take some rest and improve his keeping. Pak should get rid of this coach too. You see the Pak team playing ..its like a dead team, no spirit at all, no co-ordination....as if they are playing for the sake of game...God bless!

    Asad from USA.

  • The Intelligent Man on January 29, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    When you have captains like Malvi Yousef.....this is bound to happen. no surprise at all....

    I just heard Inzimam is willing to become batting coach of this team. This will be the DARKEST DAY of this histoty of cricket in Pakistran if Inzimam returns in any role. He will do more coacing of his brand of Islam rather than batting coaching. Furthermore, the tarnished image of Pakistandf will get yet another blow and no one would feel comfortable playing Cricket with Pakistan.

    Perhaps a cruel an harsh statement but 100% true !!!

  • Mehdi on January 29, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    We cannot just blame Yousuf for his dismal performance or point finger to his captaincy. Don’t go any further, look at the opponents, their team is playing with their heart in their mouth. Ponting okishly played or performed in all odi and despite of being out while pulling he kept on playing the same shot and result same, but nobody is dreaded to point finger to him. And look at his team – mates. Even bowler who never participated earlier achieved 2 fivers in tandem, Hauritz – Pak batsmen really made him proud to his chosen career, he even make quick fired 50. We cannot keep blaming captaincy or Yousuf performance. We need complete overhaul of this immobilised team. Where is Imran Nazir, can anyone tell me? why not Mohammed Sami or Tanvir? PCB please wake look around you, come out of your luxurious life style, lunches at the cost of poor viewers like us and do something. Or start supplying free anti-hypertensive tablets.

  • jumbozm on January 29, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    All the players are good but wothout brains & pakistanis are generally very stubborn, difficult to control.They only need a captain like Imrankhan. So look for someone who can control this bunch of fools & your problem is sorted out.

  • Sri on January 29, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    I'm from India but a fan of Pak players, what surprises me is how much of talk, effort is being put into clarifying IPL3 debacle by players and PCB when they should be focussing on ODIs vs Aus, you can see that Aus have not spoken a word against IPL3, coz they are focussed on 5-0

    Reply

  • Ghaus on January 29, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    Only player who caused collapse on this Australian trip was Sami by taking 3 quick wickets in Sydney. We should not forget that Australia were 3 wickets down for only 10 runs. It seems that he is bowling with great passion and definitely with ultra fast pace. He should have been the part of one day and 20-20 cricket matches in Australia. Sami at present is a lot better bowler than Rana Naveed and Rao Iftiqhar. Lets include Sami in up-coming 20-20 match. It’s a shame that he did not play all tests and one day matches in Australia.

  • Sidiq-ul-haq on January 29, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    A letter to Mr Zardari: I follow county cricket in England and am a selector of a local county, I have a sincere advice for you : 1. Please get rid of the selection committee. 2. Seniors should not occupy the place instead of talented youth. (get rid of Younis,Yousuf, Malik, Misbah, Umar Gul, Salman Bhat,Kamran Akmal. 3.Make Afridi captain and groom Umar Akmal as his deputy,bring in some young guns from Pak-A and under 19 team. Players like Anwar Ali- Pak U19, Fayaz Bhat- Pak U19, Hammad Azam- Pak U19, Babar Azam- Pak U19 ,Kashif Siddiq Pak-U19Opener, Abid Ali Pak-U-19 Opener, Asad Shafiq 1st Class M/order, Umair Khan 1st Class M/ order, Aamir Sajjad 1st ClassM/ order, Naveed Yasin Pak-U-19M/order, Tabish Khan-1st ClassF/ Bowler, Uzair ul Haque Pak U19 F/ Bowler, Mohamad Talah Test Cricketer F/ Bowler, Naeem Anjum Pak-U-19Wicket Keeper. If you give these players chance I swear Pakistan will be world beaters in 6 months. This is my sincere advice rest is upto you, Allah save Pak cricket

  • muzz on January 29, 2010, 13:52 GMT

    Mohammed yusuf lacks confidence as captain,always iffy with decision and has accepted the defeat even before going into play - look at his body language - he is a good player but not all good players are good Captains eg. Ian Botham? He needs to rest/reflect/recharge and then come back. He has already lost all the matches. let some one get in as Captain - Shahid as captain ----- this chap is brave and sharp/competative and luck favours the brave.

  • Salman Shakeel on January 29, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    Yes, well said Kamran. Pakistan Cricket has now lost the craze to win. When Pakistan Team keeps playing Imran Farhat ,Rana Naveed and Kamran Akmal ,It shows that we are the least prepared for the future.The World Cup is just 1 year after and We are again resorting to the players which have never been the match winners.

    What's the Quick Fix?

    In Batting :

    Time to say, Bye Bye to Imran Farhat and Misbah Time to take a strong stand against Yousaf and Younis , Seniority does not guarantee place in team , It must be the performance. Clear Message must be given to them , Deserve and Play.

    In Wicket Keeping department, We had enough dismal performance of Kamran Akmal, Its not the ist time Kamran Akmal contributed in Pakistan's Failure, I still can't forget the Pakistan loss to England in Test series in which K.Akmal was the culprit but he was not dropped from the team.

    Drop K.Akmal asap to save future of Pakistan Wicket Keeping

    In Bowling Department, Say Bye Bye to Rana Naveed.

  • Tanvir Ahmad on January 29, 2010, 13:15 GMT

    Mohammad Yousaf should step down for Shahid Afridi. I think by acting upon your advice Mohammad Youdaf can save some pride atleast for himself.

  • dr salman on January 29, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    i dunno if the parchi system lets in any of the u19 guys in the national squad..yusuf younis misbah fawad alam...all ve proved to be broken arrows..used guns with no bullets..i think they shd be rested to bring up new talent..young enthusiastic blood with of course a will to win!! n plzzzzzzzzzz yusuf shd quit captaincy..it just doesnt work with him!

  • Nadeem on January 29, 2010, 13:04 GMT

    This is a joke. Whitwashed in tests and probably whitewahed in the ODI's. The PCB should get rid of Yousuf as captain because half the time he does know what he is doing and he does not have the tactical nous. The PCB should appoint Afridi as captain for all 3 formats of the game. Afridi is a better man manager of team than Yousuf will ever be. The top order again did not fire in the fourth ODI again and should be replaced for the final ODI. Get rid of Younus and Yousuf and bring in Latif and Farhat. Farhat can open the batting with Butt and Latif can come in at 3 with Umar Akmal at 4, Alam 5 and Kamran can come in at 6. Why was Sami and Tanvir not picked for the ODI's or the Twenty20 because they are a lot better bowlers than Rana Naved and Roa Iftikhar. Umar Gul should be dropped becuase he has done not contributed in the ODI's or the Tests and he in an overrated bowler. Hammad Azam should be given a chance in the national team because he has been fantastic in the U-19 world cup.

  • Jehanzeb on January 29, 2010, 12:52 GMT

    Absoluely right. This team is content with its poor performances. They always say that we will learn from our mistakes but they never do. We need a captain who is aggressive not a defensive one.

  • Hanief on January 29, 2010, 12:46 GMT

    It has become an embarrassment to watch the senior side, in all my years of watching I have resorted to just turning the tv off whenever they are playing. On the other hand the U19's have been a fresh of breath air, perhaps for them to swop positions might be an answer however with the PSB involved nothing will EVER IMPROVE.

  • Khan on January 29, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    Your assertion about the will to win is confusing with the lack of mental steel and frankly batting.. skill .. they are different.. Hauritz played better cricket shots than Afridi.. and its not just today Afridi has done so ever since he came.. completely useless.. i am having a go at Afridi because there will be 'people' who will want him to become captain because that will 'solve' all the problems.. the issues are so many that this forum will just trivialize the situation..

    an QUIT bagging Mohammad Yousuf.. it only takes away from the real issues affecting our team..

  • DS_160 on January 29, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    To be honest, has Pakistan performed worse on this tour than in the tours of Sri Lanka and New Zealand earlier in the year? They were able to be more competitive on those tours because of playing conditions that were more familiar (in Sri Lanka), and an opposing side that was at times equally incompetant (in New Zealand). We probably can't say Pakistan are going backwards, but the are not showing any signs of improvement either.

  • Sohail on January 29, 2010, 12:25 GMT

    The Pakistan cricket management is doing exactly as the countrys top leadership. Let the rot sink in, no action, no future planning. Why is Yousef still captain. Why a totally out of form Younis Khan continues to play in the team at the expense of others? Both him and Yousef appear over the hill, poor reflexes and terrible shot selection. Does one have to wait for the end? This is the worst Pakistani team performance in a long while as it is repetitively abyssmal, meek with no will to fight. The height of it all is the captain who thinks he is doing well. This is delusional and sick. Why the coach has not stepped down, look at Mickey Arthur? I guess he like his boss has no future ahead! We need Afridi at the helm, a good preferably foriegn coach, good selectors and a rebuilding process. It is hard to believe few months back we were about to win the Champions trophy. Something is very wrong. We need to face reality, performance and not seniority is way forward. Is someone listening?

  • Reverse Swing on January 29, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    Well agreed it is just like they are not playing for win, they are just playing for the sake of a match. Worse Time.

    Lot of hopes from U19 team and they way they are approaching this thing but they have a very difficult hurdle in front on Saturday.

    Despite lot of talent 50-70% will be waisted and other will join the same old part of seniors for same results.

    As far as Hammad is concerned it is good to keep him with senior team for some days in practice and net but no not yet an International match let him evolve his way why so hurry and expose him while he still in transition of becoming a player at least have him some tours with A team and 1 or 2 domestic seasons.

  • AJ on January 29, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    After the 4th consecutive loss to Australia and seventh in a row, and given that the world up is only a year away, we need to re-think on the team structure....here is the squad i suggest (courtesy: CricInfo's statistics for Pakistan cricket over the last 2 years): 01. Khurram Manzoor 02. Salman Butt 03. Shoaib Malik (VC) 04. Kamran Akmal 05. Umar Akmal 06. Fawad Alam 07. Shahid Afridi (C) 08. Umar Gul 09. Mohammad Aamer 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Mohammad Asif 12. Rana Naveed 13. Abdul Razzaq 14. Younis Khan 15. Khalid Latif

    These guys must come together immediately and some intelligent cricketers and psychologists be given the task to prepare them for the next world up.

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  • AJ on January 29, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    After the 4th consecutive loss to Australia and seventh in a row, and given that the world up is only a year away, we need to re-think on the team structure....here is the squad i suggest (courtesy: CricInfo's statistics for Pakistan cricket over the last 2 years): 01. Khurram Manzoor 02. Salman Butt 03. Shoaib Malik (VC) 04. Kamran Akmal 05. Umar Akmal 06. Fawad Alam 07. Shahid Afridi (C) 08. Umar Gul 09. Mohammad Aamer 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Mohammad Asif 12. Rana Naveed 13. Abdul Razzaq 14. Younis Khan 15. Khalid Latif

    These guys must come together immediately and some intelligent cricketers and psychologists be given the task to prepare them for the next world up.

  • Reverse Swing on January 29, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    Well agreed it is just like they are not playing for win, they are just playing for the sake of a match. Worse Time.

    Lot of hopes from U19 team and they way they are approaching this thing but they have a very difficult hurdle in front on Saturday.

    Despite lot of talent 50-70% will be waisted and other will join the same old part of seniors for same results.

    As far as Hammad is concerned it is good to keep him with senior team for some days in practice and net but no not yet an International match let him evolve his way why so hurry and expose him while he still in transition of becoming a player at least have him some tours with A team and 1 or 2 domestic seasons.

  • Sohail on January 29, 2010, 12:25 GMT

    The Pakistan cricket management is doing exactly as the countrys top leadership. Let the rot sink in, no action, no future planning. Why is Yousef still captain. Why a totally out of form Younis Khan continues to play in the team at the expense of others? Both him and Yousef appear over the hill, poor reflexes and terrible shot selection. Does one have to wait for the end? This is the worst Pakistani team performance in a long while as it is repetitively abyssmal, meek with no will to fight. The height of it all is the captain who thinks he is doing well. This is delusional and sick. Why the coach has not stepped down, look at Mickey Arthur? I guess he like his boss has no future ahead! We need Afridi at the helm, a good preferably foriegn coach, good selectors and a rebuilding process. It is hard to believe few months back we were about to win the Champions trophy. Something is very wrong. We need to face reality, performance and not seniority is way forward. Is someone listening?

  • DS_160 on January 29, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    To be honest, has Pakistan performed worse on this tour than in the tours of Sri Lanka and New Zealand earlier in the year? They were able to be more competitive on those tours because of playing conditions that were more familiar (in Sri Lanka), and an opposing side that was at times equally incompetant (in New Zealand). We probably can't say Pakistan are going backwards, but the are not showing any signs of improvement either.

  • Khan on January 29, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    Your assertion about the will to win is confusing with the lack of mental steel and frankly batting.. skill .. they are different.. Hauritz played better cricket shots than Afridi.. and its not just today Afridi has done so ever since he came.. completely useless.. i am having a go at Afridi because there will be 'people' who will want him to become captain because that will 'solve' all the problems.. the issues are so many that this forum will just trivialize the situation..

    an QUIT bagging Mohammad Yousuf.. it only takes away from the real issues affecting our team..

  • Hanief on January 29, 2010, 12:46 GMT

    It has become an embarrassment to watch the senior side, in all my years of watching I have resorted to just turning the tv off whenever they are playing. On the other hand the U19's have been a fresh of breath air, perhaps for them to swop positions might be an answer however with the PSB involved nothing will EVER IMPROVE.

  • Jehanzeb on January 29, 2010, 12:52 GMT

    Absoluely right. This team is content with its poor performances. They always say that we will learn from our mistakes but they never do. We need a captain who is aggressive not a defensive one.

  • Nadeem on January 29, 2010, 13:04 GMT

    This is a joke. Whitwashed in tests and probably whitewahed in the ODI's. The PCB should get rid of Yousuf as captain because half the time he does know what he is doing and he does not have the tactical nous. The PCB should appoint Afridi as captain for all 3 formats of the game. Afridi is a better man manager of team than Yousuf will ever be. The top order again did not fire in the fourth ODI again and should be replaced for the final ODI. Get rid of Younus and Yousuf and bring in Latif and Farhat. Farhat can open the batting with Butt and Latif can come in at 3 with Umar Akmal at 4, Alam 5 and Kamran can come in at 6. Why was Sami and Tanvir not picked for the ODI's or the Twenty20 because they are a lot better bowlers than Rana Naved and Roa Iftikhar. Umar Gul should be dropped becuase he has done not contributed in the ODI's or the Tests and he in an overrated bowler. Hammad Azam should be given a chance in the national team because he has been fantastic in the U-19 world cup.

  • dr salman on January 29, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    i dunno if the parchi system lets in any of the u19 guys in the national squad..yusuf younis misbah fawad alam...all ve proved to be broken arrows..used guns with no bullets..i think they shd be rested to bring up new talent..young enthusiastic blood with of course a will to win!! n plzzzzzzzzzz yusuf shd quit captaincy..it just doesnt work with him!

  • Tanvir Ahmad on January 29, 2010, 13:15 GMT

    Mohammad Yousaf should step down for Shahid Afridi. I think by acting upon your advice Mohammad Youdaf can save some pride atleast for himself.