2010: Summer of Pakistan August 2, 2010

Butt, where's the logic?

Pakistan's depressing defeat at Trent Bridge has exposed the hollowness of the Pakistan Cricket Board's claims that we are entering a new era in Pakistan cricket
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Pakistan's depressing defeat at Trent Bridge has exposed the hollowness of the Pakistan Cricket Board's claims that we are entering a new era in Pakistan cricket. A ruling body with any sense of purpose, process, or principle would have stuck to its guns as, in the words of the Pakistan captain, the new era is only two Tests old.

First, let's put aside the issue of whether or not Mohammad Yousuf and Younis Khan should have been in the original touring party. They were not. We should also temporarily put aside, although it is difficult, the result at Trent Bridge. It is still one win and one defeat in the reign of Salman. I urge you to focus on the decision to appoint a young captain with a young team. I've been as concerned about the inexperience in this squad as any Pakistan fan. But if these players have been identified as the best to take Pakistan cricket forward they should been allowed a longer run without interference.

Logic suggests that you back that captain and his team. You also back your recently appointed coach, who happens to be one of the greatest cricketers in your country's history. Despite some imaginative spin from Pakistan's cricketing bureaucrats, there is no reason to question the reporting on Cricinfo and elsewhere of the post-match statements made by Salman and Waqar Younis. They were powerful messages that the team required support and time. Indeed, they were a plea for patience. Waqar even questioned why you would recall under prepared Mohammad Yousuf from retirement?

The PCB now claims that both Salman and Waqar were consulted about the decisions to recall Yousuf, drop Danish Kaneria, and call up Raza Hasan, who is undoubtedly a player with immense promise. Many bosses say they have consulted their staff when, in truth, they have merely informed them of a decision. This is the scenario that has played out in the last few days - and it is an unsatisfactory one. Ijaz Butt has instantly undermined the new regime that he contrived to put in place in Pakistan cricket.

But logic has rarely been a factor in the PCB's decision making. Logic would have suggested better use of the resources within the current squad, such as recalls for Yasir Hameed and Saeed Ajmal or a replacement for Kamran Akmal. Logic would not have produced an urgent recall for a retired cricketer who hasn't played first class cricket in months, however great he once was. The time for change of captain or players was between series not in the middle of this one.

In the end, we must hope that Salman and Waqar will brush off this insult. Ironically, the enigmatic relationships within the Pakistan camp will mean that Yousuf is more welcome than Younis Khan would have been, although Younis may have a stronger cricketing case for a recall. But the great unknown is how a damaging relationship between Yousuf and Shoaib Malik can be healed?

The Pakistan cricket team has had other defeats as embarrassing as the loss at Trent Bridge, usually with far more experienced personnel. In addition, poor fielding and poor bowling contributed to the extent of the loss, not just the woeful batting. The best response from the cricket board would have been to avoid meddling and allow the players to respond in more favourable playing conditions away from Trent Bridge. Instead, the board has meddled, and it is this knee-jerk interference that destroys the talent and confidence of Pakistan's cricketers, demoralises fans, and earns the cricket board a reputation as an organisation without vision, skill, sense or logic.

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  • MSJ on August 10, 2010, 1:12 GMT

    I don't know why they dropped Kamran Akmal outrightly. With inexperienced batting line-up, he can play as a specialist batsman. It won't be a bad idea to take him into trust, relieve him of wktkeeping responsibilities & draft him in the playing 11 as a pure specialist batsman for a permanent solution. I am 100% sure he will do wonders in that role. Recalling Mohd Yusuf would do no good to team.

  • Abdus-salam Ahmad on August 9, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    I think Pakistan need some good batsman and very fast bowlers. I think this is a a good team for Pakistan.

    Salman Butt Umar Akmal Younis Khan(Captain) Mohammed Yousuf(Vice captain) Fawad Alam Zulqarnain Haider(Wicketkeeper) Mohammed Aamer Umar Gul Saeed Ajmal Shoaib Akhtar Mohammed Asif

    I think this is a good team for Pakistan. Mixed with very good batsman and very good bowlers.

  • bilal on August 9, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    pakistan will rock one day

  • gallant_cricketer on August 7, 2010, 20:31 GMT

    Provincial prejudice would be a valid argument if PCB were using any negative logic. But they aren't - they are being simply devoid of logic, positive or negative. Punjab and Sindh are brothers and the bigger brother is not doing a good job at all for itself or anyone else, let alone thinking of any Punjab-Sindh issues. So making it a provincial bias issue achieves nothing but cause inflammation and thus the argument itself is illogical. It seems that logic is more rare than one would expect when it comes to cricketing matters in Pakistan.

  • Kamran Sekha on August 6, 2010, 21:48 GMT

    The simple answer to the main question "Butt, where's the logic" lies in Salman's butt and not in his brain.

    Punjabis are running and ruining Pakistan cricket. This team has all Punjabis and none from Karachi (Kaneria is axed now).

    Sad state of affairs as Punjabis made us lose two wars to India also.

  • gallant_cricketer on August 6, 2010, 0:25 GMT

    Hanif wrote "very soon we will call PAKISTAN what is PUNJAB now". Saying such things only adds fuel to the fire and are least sporty in nature. If you are Hanif, the great opener, please be sporty and say something constructive without whining about Shoaib and adding a provincial, religious, or political twist to what is already a dismal situation.

  • M.TAHIR FROM SPRINGFIELD on August 5, 2010, 20:03 GMT

    Kamran Bhai what the hell is everybody talking about Yousuf's form ...ONE fifty by all our in form middle order..and we are comparing forms with a legend(Yousuf).There is asaying in our language A DEAD ELEPHANT IS WORTH ONE AND A HALF LAKH.THIS ENTIRE PAKISTANI TEAM'S BATTING COMBINED TOGETHER CANNOT MATCH YOUSUF'S CALIBRE.YOUSUF IS A GIANT AMONG THESE PYGMIES(ACTUALLY THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER WORD INVENTED FOR THESE PATHETIC BUNCH OF "BATSMEN"..)Umar akmal should also be "rested" for the entire series..Fawad should be given a chance along with Yasir.They are both fighters and will do good in tests.Razzaq shoul come in place of malik,particularly in english conditions..Razzaq can also be a Handful.Malik is only good on sub-continental pitches..nothing against him but time and again he has shown he cannot bat in these conditions,and fast paced pitches.He also does pretty good in sri lanka wher all the pitches are not so easy to play but they are not fast paced.May god help this team ...

  • Taz on August 5, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    Kamran has been axed for the second test - coaches showing some sense at last. Yousuf will not be playing due to tiredness.

    btw, I totally disagree with many people saying Yousef shouldn't have been picked and that they should have stuck with the youngsters. The two Y's need to be in the team, as seniors and mentors, that's how the kids will learn. This is how other stars learned in the past, from their seniors. Otherwise, what will the youngsters learn all alone - how to get thrashed game after game? Not very motivating for them!

    Taz

  • 4,0PAK LOOSES,GAIN EXP on August 5, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    TEST IS THE REAL TEST OF TALENT, no one in d pak squad would b given d imp of test cricket, they should remember their r more test fans today then for one dayers,except for ameer/asif/salman(not as a captain) no one deserves to b in d team,these kids batting talent is of 20/20 on flat sub con picthes,if MOYO yaseer hamid and even younis khan is included be prepared to listen salman butt closing ceremony after 4th test" yes, we lost badly all the 4 test but these young batsmen will get experience TO HELL FOR D EXP OF 20/20 MINDED BATSMEN, pcb jokers r 10 years late, they didnt blossomed any middle order batsmen in last 10 years,so paki fans dont wanna c nontalented batsmen getting experience of english condition WE WANT PAK TO WIN 3,1

  • Khalid Arif Siddiqui, Jeddah - S. Arabia on August 5, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    The article is very well written & lays out the facts without mincing words. Agreed that Salman & Waqar shud have full support/backing of the board & this young team shud be given some more time to settle down. Sending Yousuf may look in appropriate knowing that he has not played any cricket for the last 6 months. Salman, as we are led to understand that he is a bit upset about it, if that really is the case then he shud also be upset with Malik's presence as he too did not play any cricket after that Aussie tour, yet he is there & playing (2 tests 4 inngs scoring 83 runs @ 20.75), I think Yousuf will at least be better than him. The question here is that if Malik is acceptable to Salman then why is there a problem having Yousuf, is this because Malik is Salman's buddy. Salman must keep personal likes & dislikes aside & behave like a team leader, he shud concenterate on how to get the beat out of Yousuf who a seasoned campaighner, he should stay as far away from Malik for his own sake.

  • MSJ on August 10, 2010, 1:12 GMT

    I don't know why they dropped Kamran Akmal outrightly. With inexperienced batting line-up, he can play as a specialist batsman. It won't be a bad idea to take him into trust, relieve him of wktkeeping responsibilities & draft him in the playing 11 as a pure specialist batsman for a permanent solution. I am 100% sure he will do wonders in that role. Recalling Mohd Yusuf would do no good to team.

  • Abdus-salam Ahmad on August 9, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    I think Pakistan need some good batsman and very fast bowlers. I think this is a a good team for Pakistan.

    Salman Butt Umar Akmal Younis Khan(Captain) Mohammed Yousuf(Vice captain) Fawad Alam Zulqarnain Haider(Wicketkeeper) Mohammed Aamer Umar Gul Saeed Ajmal Shoaib Akhtar Mohammed Asif

    I think this is a good team for Pakistan. Mixed with very good batsman and very good bowlers.

  • bilal on August 9, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    pakistan will rock one day

  • gallant_cricketer on August 7, 2010, 20:31 GMT

    Provincial prejudice would be a valid argument if PCB were using any negative logic. But they aren't - they are being simply devoid of logic, positive or negative. Punjab and Sindh are brothers and the bigger brother is not doing a good job at all for itself or anyone else, let alone thinking of any Punjab-Sindh issues. So making it a provincial bias issue achieves nothing but cause inflammation and thus the argument itself is illogical. It seems that logic is more rare than one would expect when it comes to cricketing matters in Pakistan.

  • Kamran Sekha on August 6, 2010, 21:48 GMT

    The simple answer to the main question "Butt, where's the logic" lies in Salman's butt and not in his brain.

    Punjabis are running and ruining Pakistan cricket. This team has all Punjabis and none from Karachi (Kaneria is axed now).

    Sad state of affairs as Punjabis made us lose two wars to India also.

  • gallant_cricketer on August 6, 2010, 0:25 GMT

    Hanif wrote "very soon we will call PAKISTAN what is PUNJAB now". Saying such things only adds fuel to the fire and are least sporty in nature. If you are Hanif, the great opener, please be sporty and say something constructive without whining about Shoaib and adding a provincial, religious, or political twist to what is already a dismal situation.

  • M.TAHIR FROM SPRINGFIELD on August 5, 2010, 20:03 GMT

    Kamran Bhai what the hell is everybody talking about Yousuf's form ...ONE fifty by all our in form middle order..and we are comparing forms with a legend(Yousuf).There is asaying in our language A DEAD ELEPHANT IS WORTH ONE AND A HALF LAKH.THIS ENTIRE PAKISTANI TEAM'S BATTING COMBINED TOGETHER CANNOT MATCH YOUSUF'S CALIBRE.YOUSUF IS A GIANT AMONG THESE PYGMIES(ACTUALLY THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER WORD INVENTED FOR THESE PATHETIC BUNCH OF "BATSMEN"..)Umar akmal should also be "rested" for the entire series..Fawad should be given a chance along with Yasir.They are both fighters and will do good in tests.Razzaq shoul come in place of malik,particularly in english conditions..Razzaq can also be a Handful.Malik is only good on sub-continental pitches..nothing against him but time and again he has shown he cannot bat in these conditions,and fast paced pitches.He also does pretty good in sri lanka wher all the pitches are not so easy to play but they are not fast paced.May god help this team ...

  • Taz on August 5, 2010, 19:28 GMT

    Kamran has been axed for the second test - coaches showing some sense at last. Yousuf will not be playing due to tiredness.

    btw, I totally disagree with many people saying Yousef shouldn't have been picked and that they should have stuck with the youngsters. The two Y's need to be in the team, as seniors and mentors, that's how the kids will learn. This is how other stars learned in the past, from their seniors. Otherwise, what will the youngsters learn all alone - how to get thrashed game after game? Not very motivating for them!

    Taz

  • 4,0PAK LOOSES,GAIN EXP on August 5, 2010, 19:09 GMT

    TEST IS THE REAL TEST OF TALENT, no one in d pak squad would b given d imp of test cricket, they should remember their r more test fans today then for one dayers,except for ameer/asif/salman(not as a captain) no one deserves to b in d team,these kids batting talent is of 20/20 on flat sub con picthes,if MOYO yaseer hamid and even younis khan is included be prepared to listen salman butt closing ceremony after 4th test" yes, we lost badly all the 4 test but these young batsmen will get experience TO HELL FOR D EXP OF 20/20 MINDED BATSMEN, pcb jokers r 10 years late, they didnt blossomed any middle order batsmen in last 10 years,so paki fans dont wanna c nontalented batsmen getting experience of english condition WE WANT PAK TO WIN 3,1

  • Khalid Arif Siddiqui, Jeddah - S. Arabia on August 5, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    The article is very well written & lays out the facts without mincing words. Agreed that Salman & Waqar shud have full support/backing of the board & this young team shud be given some more time to settle down. Sending Yousuf may look in appropriate knowing that he has not played any cricket for the last 6 months. Salman, as we are led to understand that he is a bit upset about it, if that really is the case then he shud also be upset with Malik's presence as he too did not play any cricket after that Aussie tour, yet he is there & playing (2 tests 4 inngs scoring 83 runs @ 20.75), I think Yousuf will at least be better than him. The question here is that if Malik is acceptable to Salman then why is there a problem having Yousuf, is this because Malik is Salman's buddy. Salman must keep personal likes & dislikes aside & behave like a team leader, he shud concenterate on how to get the beat out of Yousuf who a seasoned campaighner, he should stay as far away from Malik for his own sake.

  • Pakistan on August 5, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    The Pakistan team is all over the pace at the moment, it needs a revival. It needs a mix of young and old players so the young less experienced players can learn from the new. Kamran Akmal is proving to be very influential in Pakistan losing as his dropped catches are very costly and he is not scoring runs, so I feel he should be dropped. The bowling on th whole is pretty good but i'd love to see shoaib akthar back to frighten the batsmen with his pace. I believe the team should be

    Salman Butt(capt) Yasir Hameed Azhar Ali Mohammed Yousuf Younis Khan Umar Akmal Zulfiqaran Haider(wk) Mohammed Amir Shoaib Akthar Mohammed Asif Saeed Ajmal

  • salik on August 5, 2010, 16:33 GMT

    why selector didn't select asim kamal ?? any valid reason ??

  • venkat on August 5, 2010, 15:20 GMT

    I do agree that I don't understand the inner workings of the Pakistani cricket team but they certainly do require a steadying hand in the middle order. It has to be either Yousuf or Younis. I just hope that Yousuf can contribute with the bat, because if Pakistan can score 300 both innings of a test match they have a good enough attack to beat any top 5 test team. I just love your cricket team. What talent, and what a waste of talent!!

  • Sarmad on August 5, 2010, 14:14 GMT

    This is PAKISTAN TEAM, but looks like LAHORE 11. Senior or Junior,I think who perform well in the field is the best however he is Senior or Junior. Everyone knows PAKISTAN have big players in every Street of PAKISTAN, but who has a BIG HAND ON HIS BACK he was in the TEAM OF PAKISTAN

  • Asim on August 5, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    My Playing Eleven for the second Test.

    Salman Butt Imran Farhat Yasser Hameed Mohammad Yusuf Omer Akmal Shoaib Malik Kamrfan Akmal Mohammad Amir Omer Gul Saeed Ajmal Mohammad Asif

  • Kashif Habeeb on August 5, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Sqaud Shoul be like this.. if you want to win. Please Please do not do politics in cricket please

    Kamran Akmal---- Goof Opener Salman Butt----Captain actaully otherwise no need Shoeb Malik--- Good Record Mohd. Yousuf--- Good Batsman Misbah Ul Haq--- All format batsman Mohd. Hafeez-- Good bating, will give the support to the bowlers Shahid Afridi--- Bowling in form, big name, good batsman Mohd. Amir--- Best nowdays Umar Gul--- Best nowdays Shoeb Akhtar---Experiance, big name english batsman Mohd. Asif--- best now days 12th man---Umar Akmal 13th man--- Umar Amin

  • Jackie L on August 5, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    I have a great deal of sympathy for Pakistan as exiles from their own country. Playing 6 Tests in a row is hardly ideal either. But it is entirely logical to recall a senior player when a young team is in disarray. What you don't want is to expose young batsmen to a drubbing without anyone to guide them. Australia was very swift to remove Phil Hughes when he was exposed and less swift but entirely necessary was England's response to drop Ravi Bopara. Both batsmen should recover and play for their country in the future.

    What is illogical is to put together a weak batting side in the first place. To call players out of retirement is completely normal in cricket and the history of cricket is littered with examples. Harmison was called out of ODI retirement to play for England only recently.

  • disappointedfam on August 5, 2010, 7:53 GMT

    if only the selections had been on merit we would not have seen this day, just by the way is it a pakistani team or team from punjab.

  • gallant_cricketer on August 5, 2010, 4:28 GMT

    Although the article is logical but it is illogical to expect anything logical from Mr. Ijaz Butt's administration. It is also illogical to expect to expect any positive leadership from the captain.

    "Yousuf alone cannot save the Pakistan team," says Mr. Salaman Butt, clearly indicating that he has mentally accepted the deafeat from future test matches. So the question is who is the bigger clown, the captain or PCB chief? For some answer, read Ian Chappell's column.

  • pak-92 on August 5, 2010, 0:46 GMT

    i totally agree with taha mahmoods comments and most of his team but i would definetly drop k akmal as sarfraz ahmed has a decent enough batting average in first class cricket and is a much better keeper in the longest format of the game which is what we need. so my test team would be: 1) Butt 2) Azhar Ali 3) Younis (capt) 4) Yousuf 5) F Alam 6) U akmal 7) Sarfraz Ahmed (wkp) 8) Amir 9) Gul 10) Asif 11) Ajmal and those who want yasir hameed back in the team need to check the stats again. he has been given chances in 23 tests where he has played 45 inns. out of them inns he has only scored 2 centuries and that to in his first match in the sub-continent against bangladesh. he has shown promise but no cosistency and that is what pakistan team is lacking at the moment. if pakistan play the above 11 players, it will not be a question of if but WHEN this team will reach amongst the best teams in the world and challengE for the no 1 spot in the test rankings. stll there is a long time to go!!

  • babar on August 5, 2010, 0:07 GMT

    i read no of comments regarding m yousaf issue but who is against yousaf they might not well non of cricket he is the class act typical full n pure test cricketer his enterence in the team must leave huge effect on ENGLAND they must think abt yousaf how to boll him any eough see u after friday guys

  • DesiHungama on August 4, 2010, 22:58 GMT

    I think the Great Hanif Mohammad blogs here as well..:)

  • Bosco Martyres on August 4, 2010, 20:49 GMT

    Kamran, I partially agree with you.It is unconscionable to undermine Waqar and Salman's authority. All decisions regarding the composition of the touring side should have been made BEFORE the start of the tour. On the other hand if a major error was made, such as the omission of Yousuf and Younis, there is no harm in rectifying it ASAP to ensure the tour is not a total disaster. Having said that, there is absolutely no doubt that the PCB needs a full housecleaning, with all the morons removed, and someone with cricketing brains and the future of Pakistan cricket at heart, put at the helm.

  • ali_a on August 4, 2010, 19:11 GMT

    I believe it was Tauqeer Zia who first destroyed Pak team by removing Waqar and Saeed Anwar after 2003 defeat and went with the moto of young talent, after so many years we've found the right opener yet. Then it was Naseem Ashraf who made Malik Pak cptn after only 1 WC performance - that has started this chain reaction of every player trying to become cptn. Then Mr Butt by restoring same players back (Malik and Akmals) that destroyed the team. Did India remove Tendulukar and Dravid after poor WC 2007 perfomance - NO! This whole talk about giving young talent a chance is rubbish - we've become laughing stock in front of foregin commentators. Same old execuse after loosing "we're young and inexperience", and we make millions of rupees though. Wasim was good because Imran was there to guide him and Inzi coz of Miandad and others. Unless you've Younis and Yosuf back this team is not going to impove (like it or not). Kick out Malik and others and make Younis the cptn. Look at their records!

  • Faisal Taquie on August 4, 2010, 18:25 GMT

    Here is the solution for fixing all cricketing woes in Pakistan: Fire Ijaz Butt and the Patron in Chief.

  • Shahid on August 4, 2010, 16:18 GMT

    Dear Mr. Ijaz Butt/Shoaib Malik

    Playing for your nation is not all about money, its more about being counted as a sports hero. Ijaz Butt and Shoaib Malik are hated by every single Pakistani cricket fan. Akmal brothers are stupid that they stand besides shoaib and earn a lot of hate too. Today whole the nation respects YOUNIS KHAN for sacrifying his cricket to face the corrupt PCB and the criminal gang of Shoaib Malik.

  • PakCricFan on August 4, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    Problem with Pak selectors is they select the Test team based on T20/One day performance(Akmals brother), Failure rate(Shoaib Malik), Newer faces(Azra, Amin). And drop the test palyer based on their one-day and T20 performances.

    They should have groomed tried/tested youngsters like Yasir Hameed, Fawad Alam, Faisal Iqbal, Khurram Manzoor. Should have given chance to Asim Kamal for test. I think Pak team will be finished because of PCB, palyers ego, over-confidence and satisfaction with little success. They need to learn from players like Tendulkar who is still not satisfied with what he got and improving at this age.

  • Salma on August 4, 2010, 16:08 GMT

    @Parsoon Mukherjee

    half of indian team is of yousef's age are upto 4 years elder, so at least you should check your comments. Yousef and Younis are great players of recent time and their cricket is still not finished.

  • Shariq from USA on August 4, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    First of all Izaj Butt along with Malik and Akmal brothers are messing PCB. Why are we giving so many chances to he low class players like amin and azhar. Let me start from Asia cup we lost against india because of the poor middle order batting line up. Ijaz Butt old retarded man choose Amin instead of Misbah can any one explain me why? I bet old Butt don't even know how to hold bat and creating a mess in pak team. I live in USA and I never miss any pak cricket match whether its ODI or T20.. Fans like us take day off from work just to watch our players performance but unfortunately it doesn't happen. Experience matters in all format of the game and top quality players like Yousuf, Misbah and Younis need a game or two to get back in form. I dont think Salman Butt is a matured captain,please drop akmal brothers and give chance to sarfaraz/ Zulfiqaran. I rather see pak losing a match by giving tough time to the opponents rather then losing match on purpose because of politics.

  • Oman Siddique on August 4, 2010, 15:49 GMT

    Hallo Everyone, I am a huge cricket fan of good cricket and criketers and Pakistani batsmen are sorry to say by far not good Tes cricketers. I don't know why Salman Butt making a big issue that Yusuf is recalled in the side. If it was up to me i would first of all change batting line up bring Malik up the order and drop Akmals, Farhat, Azhar and Umin. Give Hameed and Alam a chance plus get Younis back. I don't know why the management and particularly Butt supports Kamran Akmal. He is been disaster for test cricket and for our hard working bowlers. It pains me to see him behind the wickets. In recent years we have only lost because he droppen catches and missed stumps of batsmen who than went on to make big scores. We are playing in conditions where even good batsmen struggle so how can you play with so many unexperienced players and now they also included a 18 year old spinner who just played 2 first first class matches..hillerious or just another family member?? You decide.

  • zakmohammed on August 4, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    My team is salman, yaser, yousuf,fawad,azhar,umar,ameer,gul,asif,razzaq or Ajmal and New keeper,pls send home MR BUTT/ bring good person want pakistan ateam like 80s 90s

  • Mohammad Asad on August 4, 2010, 13:47 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA..... Hi E. Butt...how are you ?? Please do a favour.....One more Comedy !!! For the 2nd test please make a team with 11 bowlers.....Atleast, you have a Logic --- analyse the Trent Bridge test.... You have nothing to lose.......... If it works --- you will be Hero from Zero !!!!!!!!!!

  • Sats on August 4, 2010, 13:47 GMT

    The problem is essentially that the seniors in Pakistan - the Ys, Kamran Akmal, Malik, Akhtar, etc. have always been too busy behaving petulantly. Even when they were supposed to carry a greater burden for the team they continued to squabble. Their attitude has been quite responsible for Pakistan cricket to be in the current state.

  • Rizwan on August 4, 2010, 13:46 GMT

    Dear Kamran Bhai I am totally at a loss that why PCB is continuing with Kamran Akmal. Last test series in England we only lost due to catches droped by Kamran Akmal along with Imran Farhat. Two Ys at that time were doing excellent job. Had those catches being taken the series result would have been completely different. Same thing happened in last Sydny test, home series against South Africa and now once against in England Tour. There is no logic in persisting with a keeper who is regularly droping the catches of batsmen subsequently making centuries even if he himself is scoring lots of runs (which he is not for quite a long period of time). Kamran Akmal has already been tried and tested many times, therefore, he needs to be out of the team immediately. In my humble opinion he is the sole reason of the defeats of Pakistani team. Even a common Pakistani like me know than why PCB is keeping its heads in sand and avoiding the situation. I am really heart burnt.

  • Sumer Zaman on August 4, 2010, 13:45 GMT

    Whats the Big surprise? I knew Mohammed Yousaf will be back as I stated in an earlier blog after the loss of the first test to Australia. Then what silly comments we had from experienced cricketers and the management such as 'we are entering a new era in Pakistan cricket' LOL... Pakitsan are to stick with their winning combination.lol any fool watching the match(I wasn't by the way) could see if the australians had another 10-20 runs Pakistan would have lost. When Is Younis coming back is what I'm waiting for then the middle will be strengthened. Umar Akmal is a wonderful cricketer but not yet test material (he should stay in 20/20 and the 1 day arena) Kamran is a class batsman but his keeping well what can we say) Opening wise salman Butt is excellent and maybe a newcomer should be allowed or persist with Farhat for a year or so buit to persist with new talent or for the existing bunch to come good you need people like Yousef and Younis.

  • hussain on August 4, 2010, 13:23 GMT

    I think the decision to recall yousuf is the only decision i am in favor of made by mr butt. it would have been great if he had replaced umar akmal by yunus, kamran by any wicket keeper and kicked shoaib malik out forever. also asim kamal has perhaps the best first class average in pakistan. he deserves his the place more then any other player.

  • Saleem on August 4, 2010, 10:49 GMT

    Guys, Pakistan Cricket did and will produce such shocking results with or without Ys that we have seen in this same year! So, just stop watching Pak matches for some time till you are sure that there's your team like that of aamir sohail,saeed anwar, inzimam,ijaz,salim malik,Miandad,Zaheer abbas,etc who were real batting heroes that pak produced. These Ys are there for long but have left no mark of excellence in the minds of fans!!!

  • Imran Khan on August 4, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    I don't know why people are complaining about Yousuf's return, he and Younis Khan are class players, they should be in the squad. I don't know why they are playing Shoaib Malik if anyone needs to be dropped it's him. Replace him with Yasir,Azhar with Younis and Umar akmal with Yusuf. Play Umar Amin at number 6, though he's not scoring but he has talent.

    Ijaz Butt needs to resign enough dramas for Pak cricket.

  • Prasoon Mukerjee on August 4, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    Where is cricketing logic in recalling a 35 year old semi-retired guy. Pakistan administrators are acting like politicians who have to cave into giving into public sentiment and being seen as having taken some action, even if that trivialises their own action taken in recent past such as the enquiry and actions that took place after the Australian tour fiasco. I wont be surprised if Misbah is next in lne to be called back from the grave.

  • Azam on August 4, 2010, 9:06 GMT

    ufff..soo many comments...suggests that how eager are fans to suggest PCB on how its team can deliver! Lets hope they read and act on the best advises. People have written against Shoeb malik. I think he is a good player who won many matches for pakistan like Razzak. Its just 'bhains ko dekhe khulga langda' like thing that is causing performance problems for some senior players. The fact is that it is not the right time to induce young blood like Umer akmal,amin and ali,etc together. They can be one at a time. Asim kamal is a right choice for younis khan who is not the best in pakistan cricket I believe as I hardly remember any game pakistan won due to him. Good luck people

  • Hatturam on August 4, 2010, 8:25 GMT

    Ban Pakistan from all sort of cricket. They are disgrace. Look at our Indian team the best in the world. Have most respected players, and officials and their performances speaks in itself.

  • Broken hearted on August 4, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    Until corruption goes, Neither Pakistan or its cricked will prosper. They will stay where they belong... at the bottom of the pile... AFRIDI showed GUTS and went, AKMALS should have joined him. In a country where everyone LIVES and BREATHES cricket there will be another 100 better than all this team. THey will never get a chance because of poor parents and not being able to afford to "pay to play"...Iused to be proud to be PAKISTANI, I now feel deeply ashamed to be associated with them. Maybe its time to become "BRITISH" !!!

  • supratim on August 4, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    it is sad to see pakistan cricket in such a sorry state,but they have to blame themselves,I hope pakistan cricket rises again..being an indian watching india-pak games are no more a very thrillin contest these days as pakistan is just not upto the mark...and occasions like asia cup are a rarity where there is a close match even if at the latter stages

  • Ahmad Masood on August 4, 2010, 7:33 GMT

    Our team seriously lack commitment, devotion & sincerety for game. Seniors like shoaib malik, kamran akmal etc play like they are debutants so what to say about new blood.

  • ramanujam sridhar on August 4, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    I feel sad for my friends across the border. There seems to be so much passion amongst the followers of the game and so little concern from the PCB. Look at the teams that are at the bottom of the test circuit, they are West Indies, New Zealand and Pakistan if you keep aside the minnows for the moment. I think Pakistan is going the West Indies way and will soon become a has been in test cricket at least. What a sad direction for Pakistan cricket to take. I do not know enough about the replacements, but surely Kamran Akmal cannot be a test keeper! My heart goes out to Waqar Younis who is struggling manfully with youth. If this is the equivalent of Border"s 80 Australians, then there is no place for a retiring Younus. Poor Kaneria who had a bad game has been made a scapegoat. A strong Pakistan can mean a lot to world cricket, especially now, but what do you do with the PCB? What a sad state of affairs. But Pakistan can and will play better because England is no great shakes. sridhar

  • Charlie on August 4, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    There are many things that are plaguing the Pakistani team... 1. Stability : Their batsmen are constantly being rotated, today we see 4-5 names tomorrow we see another 4-5... that sort of chopping and changing will not work in Test cricket... you need a stable batting line up that has some quality batsmen who can play with patience. 2. Fielding & Keeping : Club class fielding and catching cannot win you matches. It will also demoralize the bowlers. I remember India's plight before Dhoni came in, every keeper used to drop crucial catches... Keeping is such an important part of the game

    Pakistan's strong point is their bowling with 3 quality quicks and 2 good spinners... Am surprised that Kaneria is dropped while the entire batting line up failed and the fielding was pathetic...

    Looking ahead I think they should get in some of the patient batsmen back in the side... what happened to Asim Kamal, I remember him to be very sound technically... Younis, Yousof, Misbah, etc

  • Imran on August 4, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Well, I think, Mr. Ejaz Butt should be immediately removed from PCB. The more time he will spend in the chair, the worse Pakistan cricket will become.

    This is all shocking. There is no one in Pakistan to take the responsiblity?? It's like a kingdom, where the king has all the authority. What the hell Ejaz Butt has to do with the selection of the team? He is the sole decision maker about each and every player...

    I am happy Danish Kaneria is dropped. Kaneria has totally ruined his skills and abilities. I think excessive county cricket has spoiled his internaional career. Everyone is saying, Kaneria is a great bowler he should not be dropped like this. Why?? look at his bowling performance for the last 1 year. You will know, he is no more a great bowler. He is a liablity to team team, just like Kamran Akmal and Shoaib Malik.

    By the way, in the last match, Malik was bowling 100 times better than this great bowler, Kaneria was bowling to the no. 11 batsmen. Shame on Kaneria,Akmals

  • naz on August 4, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    well i dont see any difference between the state of this country or the cricket team, both have become puppets in the wrong hands and have been exploited royally...........we being Pakistanis can only pray and pray and pray

  • H.KHAN on August 4, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. PCB CHAIRMAN MR .BUTT GO.

    YOU ARE NOT WANTED.

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA..

    YOUR SELFISH. ARROGANT, STUBBORN PERSON..

    WHEN YOU GO I WILL HAVE A PARTY...AND IM SURE MILLIONS WILL JOIN ME..HOPE THIS MESSAGE GETS TO YOU..

  • faizan on August 4, 2010, 6:11 GMT

    bringing youngsters all alone is just ending their carrier with no start.only one youngster or two can only groom with having seniors in team.inzi became great under miandad and ijaz ahmad.yousaf under inzi and younus under yousaf and inzi.so groom youngsters under yousaf and younus.it is the right way and great teams like aus do this. plz bring back younus,yousaf,yasir and asim kamal.all are potentialy test crickter.bring youngstermin odi like india.youngster in odi and t20 and seniors in test. its time for separate team.

  • perwez on August 4, 2010, 6:10 GMT

    bakwas cricket borad...faltu criket borad....

  • faizan on August 4, 2010, 6:00 GMT

    bringing youngsters all alone is just ending their carrier with no start.only one youngster or two can only groom with having seniors in team.inzi became great under miandad and ijaz ahmad.yousaf under inzi and younus under yousaf and inzi.so groom youngsters under yousaf and younus.it is the right way and great teams like aus do this. plz bring back younus,yousaf,yasir and asim kamal.all are potentialy test crickter.bring youngstermin odi like india.youngster in odi and t20 and seniors in test. its time for separate team.

  • Pradeep Goorha on August 4, 2010, 5:58 GMT

    You could remove one man man and replace him with another without making drastic changes in the cricket administration, the result would still be the same. Pakistan has good players and not-so-good players like in any other country: that is not a worry at all. What PCB fails to realise is that there is a very thin line between a good and not-so-good. All not-so-good players carefully nurtured can turn into good players. But it is a process, and it need tremendous one-to-one hand-holding. Greatness is another matter altogether: only some God-gifted players reach that plateau. Functionaries in the Board are not stupid: they know it. It is just that they have no time for that. They are busy guarding their position alongwith doing favours to kith, kin and friends. Losing one game badly is not the end of the world. India is ranked No.1 test team (for whatever is the worth of that stupid ranking system), and they were battered by Sri Lanka. It showed did not call for any change of personnel.

  • Dr. Syed Erfan Asif on August 4, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    No logics in whatever you wrote Kamran. No logics in dropping the two Ys and Asim kamal and keeping a below average cricketer Shoaib Malik in the side. No logics in keeping Akmal as the sole wicket keeper in the team despite his continued dismal performance. Even I as a wicket keeper of my team in my teens and early 20s, would take a couple of good catches and dropped a few (thats why never became a first class cricketer ;-)) and I have played club level cricket in Pakistan, Germany and Canada. So what fun in him getting one good catch and dropping four? No logic in having Umer Amin in the team calling him future's Viv Richards. Richard should file a defamation suit against BUTT for this. Even there was no logic in leaving Inzi behind when he was probably 36 only and Hussey, Ponting, Dravid and Tendulkar are all playing in their 37th and 38th year of ages. I agree to some one who wrote, you are asking of Logics to somebody belongs to our nation?

  • ahmad on August 4, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    pakistan is done for test match .if pak want to play test match then icc have to make twodays test match.now pak.have to play with only.ban.zim.afgnistan.w.i. and cnd

  • Shafique on August 4, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    kamran Abbasi sahib yeh to bhains k aage been bjaney wali baat hai Logic aur Ijaz Butt can not go along. How ever we need, the experience of Muhammad Yousuf and Younis Khan. Faisal Iqbal should also be recalled and Kamran Akmal can be retained as batsman. The batting Combination would be Salman Butt, Yasir Hameed, Azhar ali. Muhaamd Yousuf, Umar Akmal, kamran Akmal, Zulqanain, Muhammad Aamir, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Muhammad Asif.

  • Wasim in USA on August 4, 2010, 4:40 GMT

    Hi Kamran, I must say that I have to disagree with you on few things that you have mentioned. First, deserving players were not selected, I mean what the heck Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat are doing the Pakistani team let alone a test team. Sending Azhar and Amin at #3 & #4 position does not make sense at all. They don't have good domestic batting averages on flat track and we are expecting them to perform in English condition. This team is madeup of players who got in through superior sifarish & regional favoritism (Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal, Azhar Ali, Umer Amin), friendship/relative (Imran Farhat... his father-in-law in selection team).

  • M.S on August 4, 2010, 4:39 GMT

    Well logic is not for Ijaz Ahmad. Yousuf is retired keep him retired. Have we forgotten his miserable form in NZ & Aus. Drop Akmal and if his very talented brother makes a fuss kick him out too. Keep Amin and Azhar and bring in Asim Kamal who has a lot of confidence. Because besides logic the other thing the batting line up is missing is CONFIDENCE!!!!!

  • Junaid on August 4, 2010, 4:29 GMT

    I think the PCB is too stupid a cricket body. Pak will never win any test match as long as PCB is there.

    They should outsource the PCB to a foreign country, possibly Australia. Let the Aussies run the PCB.

    Then with the talented players and the cricketing brain, maybe pak will start winning more matches.

  • DR SHAKIL AHMED on August 4, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    How can PCB ignore player like Fawad Alam. 150+ in first test then a couple of failures in pressure situations and the guy is out of squad. He is a typical test player but chosen mostly in 20 20 cricket where he seldom gets a chance to bat in late middle order. What a joke it is. He is future star for God sake. He is a very solid middle order, and will be shining in England if given chance.

  • DR. Shakil Ahmed on August 4, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    , wow. We want some more. But cruel PCB and Ijaz Butt will murder this game and do the same like Boards did to hockey. where is that great journalism, famous Geo, who may chase culprits to their graves. Why is media criminally quite on poor cricket management that we are facing. No logic, no sense, no merit, no idea. Why people not get to streets to protests against the Board and its policies. When will we wake up as a nation?

  • FEROZ on August 4, 2010, 3:42 GMT

    nothing can be done by just writing articles or giving statements to the media the former players should step up to avoid any such defeats. Dropping seniors like Mohamed Yousuf & Younis Khan that too for a test match in England shows the maturity of the selectors no one is born with experience but experience can be gained only from experienced persons players umar akmal should be guided properly and that can be done only if he palys with experienced players for atleast two years or appoint a batsman like Inzamam or Saeed Anwar as batting coaches.

  • Rehan Najam on August 4, 2010, 3:32 GMT

    Pakistan should have tried Khurram Manzoor on England tour.As he scored 77 runs in his last innings against Australia in Australia.This is totally injustice with him.He deserves to be in the side.I don't know why selectors are doing like that.At lest they should have given Khurram a chance because of his exemplary resistance against Australia.

  • Paki on August 4, 2010, 3:21 GMT

    Only 1 solution for all problems we are facing today in Pak Cric is to FIRE Mr Ijaz Butt ASAP but who gonna do that ????

    Mr Ijaz Butt if you are able to read in current age, pls go through above comments and you will find 99% want's you out from PCB.

  • Kukoo on August 4, 2010, 3:01 GMT

    The main problem lies with the selection. It is very unfortunate that over and over again same proven failures like Farhat, Butt, Malik, Misbah, Hafeez, Faisal, Hameed had been given chances in the past purely on the basis of favoritism. The list has now extended to Umar Amin, Azhar Ali and Umar Akmal who are being persisted with despite continuous failures. Umar Amin and Azhar Ali do not even deserve a spot in test-squad ahead of Asad Shafiq and Navaid Yasin on the basis of domestic performance, who have ironically been selected in A-team for the tour of Sri Lanka. Fawad Alam and Asim Kamal are automatic choices over Shoaib Malik and Umar Akmal in the test team.

  • gaffa on August 4, 2010, 2:46 GMT

    we r supporters not managment urs mine every1 else ur opinons count for nothing. thy dnt need comments thy need support wich thy dnt have. wen ty win every1 is happy wen thy loose u look 2 blame some1 cricket is played with 11 players which all need 2 contribute and u cant blame 1 person.Afridi retired test cricket last thing we 1 do is drop kamran akmal. he should be guaranteed a place if any 1 is he is the best pakistan gt 2 offer at the moment

  • sherali virjee on August 4, 2010, 1:25 GMT

    Why not call Ijaz Butt to help open for Pakistan!!!With added responsibility,Salman Butt can bat in a lower position.

    Buttbhai please pay no heed to PBC. Tell our boys to play cricket--let politics stay back in Pakistan.

    For batting order my suggestion would be to let Shoib Malik come one down, Umar Akmal 2 down, followed by Azar and or Amin ( as you have to keep a slot for the coming guest Md Yusuf).

    Good luck. Sherali Virjee.

  • Usman on August 4, 2010, 1:11 GMT

    I really feel for Danish Kaneria, one bad match and he's out. The world's greatest sportmen have been going through struggles e.g Sidney Crosby, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, where they ever sacked?????????? PCB thinks they know everything. My calls to Pakistan cricket fans, please boycott the PCB and pak matches and then they will will understand.

  • M. Shahab on August 4, 2010, 0:33 GMT

    What is the logic in keeping Umar Amin & Umar Akmal in the team. The former does not even know how to duck under a bouncer, one does not lift his bat while ducking. Umar Akmal what does he think of himself, in test cricket you don't smash the first ball you face for a six or a four. Even batting greats like Brian Lara & Sachin Tendulkar, take time to settle down first, before scoring freely. You cannot kick out Yousuf & Younus and trust their replacements Umar Amin/Azhar ali to face English bowlers who are a menace in cloudy conditions. Salman Butt is a bragger, instead of praising his team-mates to the hilt, he should admit failure in his batting line-up, taking the blame on himself first. How many times the tail enders Umar Gul/Mohammad Aamer have to rescue their team from shameful positions. Kamran Akmal should be kicked out too, he has lost self confidence. His keeping & batting are both atrocious.

  • Hanif on August 4, 2010, 0:27 GMT

    What are you talking about, where there is no merit why you need to be logical? this is a team from Punjab (they are representing Pakistan and unfortunately true in many more places). There is no concept of merit when it comes some one against Punjabi. We were defending players like Rameez Raja (with below 30 averag) for years agianst Shoab Mohammad whose average was 43. So it will go like this for ever, do not waist your time on pakistani team.

  • Kricket Fan on August 4, 2010, 0:13 GMT

    I agree to some extent. The best course of action would've been to drop Kamran akmal for infinity and his brother umar for the whole series. i feel sorry for danish, he had one bad test. yet he gets kicked out. kamran who has been having horror run since 2006 is still in, why? now his brother has attached himself to pak team like a leach too. both akmal bros, farhat and malik should be out of the team. as long as these 3 are in the team, pak will struggle win matches on regular bases. we won against aust purly on our bowling. period. kamran is a terrible keeper. he is not even a true keeper. i've seen Rahul dravid keep better than him!!! please give a new real keepr a chance. we keep saying akmals batting is a plus. he hasn't scored past 30 let alone a 50 in last 10innings. so much for his batting advantage. plus he seemed to have gained weight too. salman butt and waqar, you want results, get your team right and rid of dead baggage (i.e akmal bros, malik and farhat) then i'm with you!

  • abu ahmad on August 3, 2010, 23:34 GMT

    septuagenarian duo of ijaz butt and yawar saeed is playing havoc with pakistan's cricket.if at all reinforcement was needed younis was the logical choice rather yusuf who has not played competetive cricket for ages.kamran should be restricted to smaller versions.itwas great injustice to ignore khurram manzoor.faisal iqbal and sarfraz ahmed.present pakistan eleven can easily be beaten by ignored eleven.

  • asad on August 3, 2010, 22:57 GMT

    Ijaz Butt and yawar saeed the grumpy old men are destroying Pakistan cricket cause of there EGO.

  • Nadeem on August 3, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    Mr.Salman Butt and his current batting heroes will only make Marshal's, Holding, McGrath, Lillee and Hedlee's out of Zim, Bang & Indian bowling attacks.

  • Agha Raza on August 3, 2010, 22:47 GMT

    Many people including Salman Butt say that Pakistan was losing test matches even with senior players. That is absolutely true but defeat should have some respect as well. With these youngsters we are being defeated in a manner that is greatly humaliating for the nation.I think Pakistan should bring all senior players back including Younous, Yousaf and Misbah and just keep one youngster Umar Akmal for the time being. Agha Raza.

  • Ali Sajid on August 3, 2010, 22:37 GMT

    First of all i would like to say that this is a very good article. Also I agree with the most important statement. Give the youngsters a chance. Salman and Waqar are aiming for the future with these youngsters. PCB's medeling has ruined it. Give Salman and the coach AT THE VERY LEAST this series to do things their way since PCB's way has never worked under Ijaz Butt.

  • Nadeem on August 3, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Hearing Salman Butt in his first post match interview was very soothing,but only a few days later his statements prove towards having no cricketing brains. Imagine the disrespect shown towards two seniors who have given their best services to Pakistan Cricket. A level, even if the current self proclaimed torch bearers combined, may not be able to achieve.

    The captain may want to give his young guns an extended run. When they fail, another run for other new faces, and the cricket loving fans of Pakistan would be running around pulling their hairs, because there is no guidance for them to learn how to succeed. It is absurd to think that BOYS will PERFORM a mans job at 3 & 4. One would have expected the professors of cricket i.e, Kamran/Malik to step up and lead while the new raw talent might come in at 4 & 5 or even 6 in the order and give them he platform to perform. the question is, does our captain geneious have enough brains to even think in this respect. we can only hope in vein

  • Dr Masood on August 3, 2010, 22:27 GMT

    Well said about the board but your views are more like knee jerk reaction than call for senior players by the board. what you are trying to say does not make any sense, do you want to play test cricket with these undercooked batsmen & shoot on one's own foot & become a B grade team who eventually completely forget to win. Logic demands to play your best batting line up for test cricket & if you still lose then atleast you tried with best available national resourses.

    Masood USA

  • Shahzad on August 3, 2010, 21:44 GMT

    Some one has written above "if we want to improve Pak cricket then we must remove Ijaz butt" very true, but another "if" if we want to remove Ijaz Butt for the future of Pak cricket then we have to remove............?

  • Jim on August 3, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    Logic would not have reprimanded Yousuf & Younis in the first place, On the other hand, Logic would have had Younis Khan taken in the squad when he is already in England and there would not have any problem with Visa formalities. Logic would not have a word in the dictionary if not for the people like PCB. So It is blatantly incorrect if you talk about the logic in bringing Yousuf now into the team.

  • saquib on August 3, 2010, 21:14 GMT

    my opinion and advice to PCB is that,it is gud to bring new players and introduce them to international circuit but it should not be done by neglecting seniors and pillars of team..no one in this world can deny about the potential of cricket in pakistan..now its up to PCB to bring that palyers for national and worlds cricket intrested..players like yunis yusuf nazir doesnot deserve to sit..change the team but not at once..give time to youngesters but not on seniors..bring one or two youngesters at a time.........the my request to board

  • Brian (English Fan) on August 3, 2010, 20:58 GMT

    First of all i thought the Pakistani team had just beaten the past masters at Test cricket(Australia). Secodly, the PCB have made a decision to build with a young team, which is a bold move especially when you guys are not playing any home games...where the younger players have learnt their cricket!

    Finally it is just 1 TEST....One of the best swing bowlers in the world playing in near perfect swing conditions..i think most teams would have been blown away by Anderson.... So for sake of cricket back the young Pakistani team, don't knock their confidence....support them.

  • A Qureshi on August 3, 2010, 20:55 GMT

    YOUSAF has not been out of form when he was playing, only the element is that he is not playing international cricket for last 5 months. Yes its tough to regain form with being out of practice but it was a very plausible step of PCB yet. Lots of people are also saying to bring younis back, younis was more OUT OF FORM than Yousaf even. Still i staucnhly belive that both veterans should be there to strengthen the team and im very much critical of Salman Butt who through his rhetorics and gstures not supporting the comeback of seniors in team. This will ruin atmosphere and the spirit of the cricket, there are many young boys in team and seniors should set a good example of team work by forgetting the past fueds if there had been any. BEST OF LUCK PAKISTAN!!! MAY ALLAH HELP YOU

  • Hasan Jafar on August 3, 2010, 20:54 GMT

    The biggest problem with Pakistani cricket management is looking for short cuts. Inserting two youngsters in the test side without making them go through a process of playing for the Pakistan "A" Team is a mistake. Imposing arbitrary bans on Yousaf and Younis was like the pot calling the kettle black. I agree with most posts that tend to put the blame on Ijaz Butt, the senile one of the two Butts who are in charge. I wonder what grudge the younger Butt holds against Yousaf and Younis. Kamran Akmal needs the axe, not Kaneria who was made the scapegoat. Umar Amin needs to sit out and make way for either Yasir Hameed or Fawad Alam. I would prefer Fawad Alam to Yasir Hameed who often in the past got out caught in the slip cordon. Shoaib Malik is a mysterious character and cannot be trusted - he wears a blue cap instead of the Pakistani green.

  • Nadeem Farooq on August 3, 2010, 20:51 GMT

    Question is why Kamran Akmal is still playing and why they droped Kaneria? And the right answer is ... Kamran is playing because he is punjabi and punjabi lobby is behind him. On the other hand poor Kaneria is dropped becuase he is not fom Punjab.

  • Azim on August 3, 2010, 20:50 GMT

    Pakistan cricket was professional when reasonable numbers of cricketer from Karachi represented Pakistan – Now too many players and PCB officials are from the Pind (village); in this situation please enjoy the music chair game or in their term call it milking the cow; where each one takes the turn.

  • Cricket Fan on August 3, 2010, 20:42 GMT

    What is done is done. What matters is how well Yousuf performs. If he can do well in this series and hang around for a year guiding the younger batsmen, it will be a huge huge help.

  • Amie on August 3, 2010, 20:37 GMT

    If We want to Improve pakistan cricket then we should remove IJAAZ BUTT. Thats all i have to say

  • shahzad on August 3, 2010, 20:36 GMT

    Mr Abbassi, one with a very little sense and understanding of cricker knows how to establish new players. Right way is certainly not which PCB adopted to bring all the new players and fire the seniors on account of Chairman's ego. No doutbt the new batsmen are very talented but this is not the way they can grow to confident players but this way their future is more suscptible to be ruined. Player always grow in the presence of some experienced player, their should always be one out four middle orde slot for new players but not all four slots. Thing is that Mr Abbassi you hate M. yousuf and you will continue to write this way. If you are sincere to Pakistan criket you should have welcomed this dicision and should have hope that our best bowler's energy is not going to be wasted. In previous match if Australia had 15 more runs, Pak batasmen would not be able to win that match. That was 100 % bowler's effort but not whole team's contribution.

  • Raziullah Qureshi on August 3, 2010, 20:31 GMT

    When you are talking about "LOGIC" than you can't mention Mr Ijaz Butt (Chairman or whatever of PCB). Because for logic you need brain.

    I don't know why we are sending 16 or 17 players on a tour when we always looking back to home for replacement. Only send 11 players if one or two not perform send them home and send new or very old faces (those who don't care of your team).

    Mohsin Khan and his selection panel are useless, Waqar and touring management team have no option to say; Only Mr Ijaz Butt have every right to do whaat he want to do.

    GOD take care of Pakistan Cricket Board.

  • Mian M Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 20:23 GMT

    Ego's aside, this really sums up everything on Pakistan Cricket at the moment and probably historically how sports and most bodies are run there in Pakistan. "The incumbent is a buffoon and cricket in Pakistan is a basket case. Malcolm Speed

    We just dont have better words! have we?

  • H on August 3, 2010, 20:11 GMT

    ok so u Abbasi r saying that when u bring in young players u leave out the the best and most experianced players this is not the correct way the correct way is to bring them in one at a time for example u bring one new promising player and u stick a experianced player with him and u also said that yasir hammeed should have been brought in instead of recalling yousaf yousaf last played test cricket for pakistan 5 months ago hammeed last played test cricket for pakistan 3 years ago big difference and then theres kamran akmal ok so he hasnt yet live up to his potential but u can only bring in a promising new player if there actually is one we saw on the unsuccesful tour a glimpse of sarvraz ahmed he couldnt even catch the balls that werent edged if that is the future of pakistan wicketkeeping then their better off with kamran akmal

  • Ninny on August 3, 2010, 19:53 GMT

    I see Pakistani team operating in the same way as politics in the country operates. No government manages to finish its proper term. The captains change as the PMs and ministers change. I see the test cricket as the supreme form of the game. PCB should let the best and experinced ones play it. Anybody coming to it should first prove its talent in ODI and T20. Look how much Raina has to do till he has got a chance to play test match and notice how player like Yuvraj has to fight for his place. I am so disappointed to learn that he plans to build a test squad like building a castle on sand. Our team is good in bowling bc there were some good bowlers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Akthar, etc. Please let our best batsmen play that their experice will be infused in the new comers. I was so delighted to read Ganguley's comment about Tendulkar, "Let him play as much as he wants". Or Murlis's delightful comments, "I am glad to realise nobody is saying me GO".

  • sherry USA on August 3, 2010, 19:48 GMT

    Well I believe nothing can get better in Pak team if we have players like akmal brothers and chairman like Ejaz Butt. Now we are arguing about punjabis and Karachi people. Let me tell every one I am Punjabi but I prefer Sarfaraz or Zulfiqaran instead of Kamran Akmal. Why we are not giving chances to yasir Hamid who is already in the squad. I think the perfect Test Team Would be. 1. Yasir Hamid 2. Imran Farhat/Salman Butt 3. Younis Khan ( Captain) 4. Yousuf 5. Misbah/ Fawad Alam 6. Razzaq 7. Zulfiqaran/ Sarfaraz 8. Amir 9. Aif 10. Gul 11. Kaneria/ Ajmal

    Younis highest score at captain 313,But highest score as captain 46. That Shows how matured younis khan is. We should give respect to Younis for wining 2009 T20 world cup. Butt is over confident retarded captain. As far as Afridi is concerned he dont know how to use top quality players like ajmal and razzaq.

  • Richard on August 3, 2010, 19:48 GMT

    The batting line-up is so weak at the moment that emergency measures need to be taken. Getting rid of Yousuf and Younis was a crass decision. So recalling them would only be correcting a woeful error. As a cricket fan I want to see the best 22 competing. The Pakistan squad as a whole need to learn to get along. You could just move on without changes but who's to say that the current batting line-up would ever become Test quality. Everyone needs to grow up and get the best XI on the pitch. This Test is too soon, but it would be great to see the 2 Ys in for the 3rd & 4th Test.

  • Muhammad Omair Siddiqui on August 3, 2010, 19:47 GMT

    while this is right that PCB should take long term mature decision but as far as Two Y's are concern they should be back.

    In my humble opinon the a genuine leader like imran is needed. No matter as captain or coach. My team

    1- Yasir Hammed, 2- Salman Buut 3- Asim Kamal 4- Younis Khan, 5- Mohammad Yousuf, 6- Misbah Ul Haq, 7- KAmran akmal 8- Saeed Ajmal, 9- Shoaib Akhtar, 10- Mohammad Asif, 11- Mohammad Aamer,

  • Malik on August 3, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    Ijaz Butt must go!

  • Dr. Shahid on August 3, 2010, 19:39 GMT

    Grudges amongst letting Pakistan cricket down. Ejaz Butt is a stupid idiot not letting YK come into the team. Do you expect Azhar Ali and Omer Amin to perform in English conditions. They are not Zaheer Abbas.

    What is the performance of the captain himself? He is a mediocre player himself like Imran Farhat. There is no class in the upper order batting. Bowlers top scored in both the innings. To save Pakistan for further humiliations recal Younis Khan, drop Imran Farhat, bring Yasser Hameed, get rid of Shoaib Malik, sad Abdul Razzaq is not here. He is much better prospect than Shoaib Malik.

    Last but not the least the patron inchief of Pakistan should kick out Ejaz Butt and made some sane person President of PCB.

  • Nauman on August 3, 2010, 19:37 GMT

    Yes good news hes back. Now we need the other established player Younis and then we also need fawad Alam. Umar akmal needs to be given some tips by Javed Miandad. The older stalwarts need to help Pakistani players out as obviously the management is incapable of doing anything except make a mockery of selection and management. We know the whole cricketing scene in the country is in a mess cause of bad security arrangements and some crazy fanatics who need to be taught a severe lesson in public if caught . But how does the management cope with it by firing and banning and fining every chance and player they get. Thats ridiculous. They should either calm down and manage the best 11 Pakistan cricket has or simply step down or let someone like a coach manage selection and players issues. They can manage the international arrangements and politics and finances but not selections. Stay away from Selections and Players.

  • @@d! on August 3, 2010, 19:24 GMT

    welllllll....every one includin the captain are talkin about kamran akmal droping the catches,,which actually resulted in the teams losss......what i say is that OK if u say 350 is a hell big score on english soil, then our top order batsman should have atleast managed 300 runs in their first innings, 0r 250, or 200 or even 150 but our batsman made just 50....now what the hell is this......y every1 is blaming kamran akmal for the losss, the whole team including salman butt sahab should b blamed...salman but has never won any match for pakistan except that one match in which he made his debut.....he may hav scored in sum matches but his match winnig innings are hellll few according to his experience.......there is nooooooo place for salman buttt in the team.....xclude salman buttt if pakistan want to perform welllll in the future

  • Imran Khan on August 3, 2010, 19:18 GMT

    I fully support Salman Butt, and hi young team, they should be given a fai chance to prove, Yosuf no doubt was a super cricketer but he has retired , so he should not be called back, also one should look at the performance of these two in the past one year and that is below average, both have issues with the board, so why bring them in, as far as Ejaz Butt is concerned he is most idiot chairman PCB ever had, i would rather suggest to Pakistan team to stand up against him and throw him outof the board once and for all. just like in mid 80's when the cricket team resigned enblock when Imran Khan was finally made the Captain.. i guess they can save Pakistan Cricket if Pakistan team cantake head ion against Ejaz Butt and his goones..

  • debal on August 3, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    I have been reading your blog since the time of sharyar khan being the PCB chief. An observation about us Pakistanis in general:

    1) We tend to criticize a lot. Especially the PCB and hold it accountable for everything. This has been happening since day one. We used to complain about selection committee and PCB in general. Every new incoming PCB chairman would be called an idiot by us. The question is where do we draw the line? Who in the past has been a great PCB Chairman? Really to me it seems like a bunch of idiots have been running PCB. But out of all those idiots, there must be some one who stands out as the most idiotic and someone as the least idiotic , who is that person ? We need to find out. Any one remember Ramiz raja being the PCB Chairman or what exactly was he , CEO ?. To me it seems like he would be the right kind of man for the job who is educated , decent and has some brain power over his shoulders.

  • Stajamm on August 3, 2010, 19:03 GMT

    I think people are missing the point of this blog post. Kamran Abbasi is simply stating the fact that Yousuf has not played in months hence he is out of form. I'll repeat it: YOUSUF IS OUT OF FORM. It doesn't matter how great a player you are, if you are out of form, you are less likely to score.

  • Kats on August 3, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Firstly, the way Pakistan lost the game was bad & it would hurt any Pakistani supporter. But keeping emotions aside, purely on given evidence of performance in this game, the responsibilies of defeat lie with 1. Batters : no explanations needed 2. Captain: who let England get out of jail in both the innings. It was a pitch assisting seamers throughout which wud mean a tough day at office for Pak batters(Read: any asian batters). You need good TECHNIQUE & EXPERIENCE both. Sadly, Pakistan batters are struggling on both counts. They can surely improve technique by working out in nets but it is only logical that they need a experienced batter in the middle order. Hence either one of Younis/Yousuf or even both were required. Pakistan bowlers are still a fabulous bunch, may be one of the best pace trio in the world. Lastly, the debate of old v/s youth is rediculous. In reality, you need 11 players who are FIT to play cricket n GOOD at their respective skills. Age is only a number.

  • A Qureshi on August 3, 2010, 18:46 GMT

    Its deplorable to see Pakistan loosing in such a miserable plight. However its laudible step by PCB to send Muhammad Yousaf so as to add some experience to the in experienced side. Candidly speaking victory against Australia was not to be hailed much as 40 runs with 9 wickets in hand should be a piece of cake which was made a pressure game by our batsmen, There should be an alternative of Kamran Akmal who is consistently is showing poor performance. Shoaib Malik, despite been given chances has not turned out to be one on which our notched batting could rely upon. Though various people have shown concerns over Yousafs' been out of touch yet he is a worldclass player who has the potential to mould himself according to the circumstances, and that is what Pakistan team is lacking. Regarding Younis he has been a good player but he is more out of practice than Yousaf as Yousaf when playiong was making runs but Younis was out of form still board should not have overlooked him,We need veterans

  • Faisal Sami Qadir on August 3, 2010, 18:45 GMT

    Pakistan's cricketing politics such as malik ,snr. akmal, yawar saeed and partly salman will be brushed off and younis will return to the team with immediate effect as soon we'll hear the news about the demise of ijaz butt or maybe he'll be sentenced to death by a prime minister like imran khan.. BTw, I never see my comments posted.. is this a flawed process?

  • Hussain Shahid on August 3, 2010, 18:44 GMT

    I really don't understand the point of making any changes in the team when the same team won against aus with the exception of kamran akmal,he should definitely be dropped. But firing Kaneria,y? Swann bowled just a few overs in the whole match and England's focus was on pacers due to the swing favoring conditions. With due respect, How can Mr.Yusaf prove to be a savior who leaves the team whenever he feels like and then says hes ready to play for the country. The only solution to the problems Pakistan cricket has faced is firing the chief,Ejaz Butt because he is the main culprit.

  • Irfan Rizvi on August 3, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    If you are reading this Mr Ijaz Butt, and I hardly think you would, I truly wish you die the most shameful death possible, you have made our cricket a joke for the whole world again and again and again, I am sick and tired of your nonsense management and idiotic ideas and the icing on sugar is your egoistic approach which has made us lose the only honest and sincere player we had in a long time which is Younis Khan. Recalling Yousuf is the end of Salman's short but a little promising tenure as he will be stuck in the infighting of the two greatest morons we have ever produced, Yousuf and Malik. I really pray for the day when you will be gone Mr Butt

  • Andrew on August 3, 2010, 18:33 GMT

    Never mind the in-fighting, lets hope he can get the plane over and make a much needed pile of runs in the middle order. best case scenario:he and shoaib malik share a run glut or better still a chase, and that they become mates in the process. pakistan cricket needs a mentor. if yousuf can play this game in that frame of mind then pakistan will turn a corner, they will start to live up to the promise of its bowling combination.

  • Shahid on August 3, 2010, 18:23 GMT

    Andy Zaltzman: "If Kamran’s Test career had been a racehorse, his owner would by now surely have done the decent thing."

    so true lol

  • Amyn Habib on August 3, 2010, 18:17 GMT

    There may not be any logic in PCB's decision making, but there is hardly much logic in your own blogs, is there, Dear Dr. Abbasi? I think that the contents of your blogs are totally in tune with the high standards of Pakistan Cricket Administration. You did not complain about any lack of logic when Afridi- a man who had not played a test match for 4 years-was appointed test Captain. Indeed, you lobbied quite hard for this. And we know how well that turned out. You seem to have some difficulty grasping that the current Pakistan batting is extraordinarily inexperienced, inept and a complete disaster. They are a joke (see Zaltzmans’ column). They won against Australia because of excellent bowling and despite the poor batting. You think this bunch will improve in the next few weeks—had they been “allowed more favorable conditions” (what does that mean?). This team desperately needs batsmen. Yousuf, Younis and Hameed.

  • zia ansari on August 3, 2010, 18:16 GMT

    It is not that our batsmen got out to swinging ball but the way they played before they got out. Umer gul and Mohd. Amer played with much more assured technique on the same wicket in same conditions. That tells a lot about our batsmen. Only number 3 and 4 have an excuse and can be marginally forgiven for poor technique for being rookies. Rest of the top 7 are seasoned players with poor technique. Playing away from the body and hanging their bats anglying towards gulley while playing the shots does not bode well for the future. We definitely need Yousuf and Younus back and I honestly think we hastened the retirement of Inzi without any replacement in sight.

  • Saiful ansari, Leesburg, VA, USA on August 3, 2010, 18:10 GMT

    Is Pakistan good enough to beat England in Test Cricket? With Yousuf & Younis or without them Pak batting is simply not good enough to score 300. At best our pace bowlers are comparable to the opponents. England has the edge with Swann in the spin category. There is very little logic is changing the team now. The team is not sure if Yousuf can get to England on time due to issues of visa. Besides he has not played at any level since March. It will take time for Yousuf to get in his stride. Last summer Yousuf struggled against both Newzealand & Australia. Younis also performed very poorly in the ODI's against the Aussies. Their inclusion won't make much impact on the pak batting at this stage. It is best to play the same team of inexperienced batsmen. Between Yousuf & Younis, the latter could be a better choice as he is in England & playing county cricket. PCB has overlooked Younis because of personal disagreements with the Chairman.

  • Dhumper on August 3, 2010, 18:03 GMT

    By reading all these comments, it's always exciting to see the passion that we as a nation and Pakistanis all over the world have for this sport and our team!

    My 2 cents: PCB seems to take one step forward and then 2 back. They brought in 3 youngsters in the middle order but because of their mismanagament couldn't bring along 2 Y's so the youngsters could play around them and develop their game. All good teams do that otherwise they loose. It's simple as that. Unless we find some special opening batsman, Farhat and Butt have put together some good partnerships and are best available so keep them at the top. Malik is not a bad choice for No. 6 as he brings stability and the guy can perform, he is just been playing under too much pressure (40 for 4 in each innings is not a good position to walk in). if he fails, try Alam. Giving a chance to Ajmal is not a bad idea. Gives time to Kaneria to regain form but he should always be our no. uno choice. Is all this that difficult to implement?

  • Arju on August 3, 2010, 18:00 GMT

    Here goes my team. Yasir Hammed, Fawad Alam, Younis Khan, Mohammad Yousuf, Misbah Ul Haq, Sharfarz Ahmed, Abdur Rajjak, Shoieb Akhter, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Aamer, Saeed Ajmal,

  • icyl on August 3, 2010, 17:59 GMT

    We need Asim Kamal. Who is responsible to keep him out after his excellent performance. He scored more than 50 runs in an inning almost every second inning. Impeach specially Inzimam first captain who took him out for no reason and all selectors and board chairman who keeping Asim Kamal out. Sarfraz Ahmed is a better wicket keeper than Kamran Akmal. He is also good with bat, he just needs support like Omar Akmal, Umar Amin, Azhar Ali, Malik & Kamran Akmal.

    ICYL CA, USA

  • Gowhar Geelani on August 3, 2010, 17:53 GMT

    Dear Kamran, you deserve a pat on the back for being spot on once more on Pakistan cricket. Once two Y's of Pakistan may now prove too wise to spoil Pak cricket. Pakistan, after a long long time, has now a sensible and decent captain in Salman Butt; an able coach in great Waqar; a team of young guns that apparently beats with one heart; so what if they lost at Trent Bridge! I want to ask you, the PCB and volatile fans one simple question. Didn't Pakistan lose in Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Australia when all these so-called experienced batsmen with 'fluke' 50 plus averages were there in the team? They couldn't chase scores of 168, 250 and 176 against Lions, Kiwis and Kangaroos respectively! Why is PCB's memory too short-lived? Didn't the young and inexperienced bowling attack of Pakistan bowled out a great team like Australia for meager totals of 127 and 88 at Sydney and Headingley? Didn't the young boys won against Australia after 15 year yawning gap? Please for God's sake give'em time

  • Mansoor Jamal on August 3, 2010, 17:48 GMT

    Wot a laughter!!! many comments from many sides especially from the former star cricketers of pakistan disputing if its right to call MOHAMMAD YOUSAF / YOUNIS KHAN. These experts have no idea of what they are talking about , i guess !! Pak victory over Australia wasnt SALMAN BUTTS capataincy rather well done from Imran Farhat n Azhir ALi to give the start ann as we watched the rest team gone like dry leaf in the storm. AMER ASIF and GUL at the top when bowling, Pak Batting is killing the fun of Cricket sports. Defeat is not the Problem Mr. Salaman butt for your kind informations.....Its how honourable you loos teh event ( mainly that counts). YOUSAF /YOUNIS is called back may be not to win the contest rather to loose honourably and keep the fun in cricket sports alive i guess. WE WANT TO HAVE FUN BY WATCHING THE MATCH ; NOT TO CRYING N SHOUTING LIKE DISGUESSTING: Wish you all experts good luck next time when writting dialouges in you colomns

  • Dawar Naqvi on August 3, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    Fawad Alam scored 168 runs in his first test inning but he is out from the test after two tests. He scored century as an opener but later he was sent at number 7 or 8 mostly. He is all-rounder but no one tried him as a bowler. Omar Amin and Azhar Ali must have someone in the board for their unmerited support. They played more innings than Fawad Alam. Khurrum Manzoor scored 70 runs not out in his last test inning against Australia. He had excellent domestic season better that all current batsman in the team. Why did he ignore by Pmg&t? Asim Kamal best choice in these circumstances, Scored 9 fifties in his 12 test match career. Another victim of PCB management.

    Dawar Naqvi USA

  • Nadir on August 3, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    I think its a wise decision to have someone senior who can try and ease the pressure off these youngsters and let them play their natural talent ... when Inzi came there were people like Miandad and Salim malik in the team, when Yusaf came there were people like Saeed Anwar, Inzi and Ijaz Ahmed ... legends are not made only out of talent , it takes lot of practice and advice and confidence from senior players ... Wasim & Waqar wouldn't have been same if there were no Imran Khan & Sarfaraz Nawaz in the team ...

    In my opinion Yunis Khan should also be back at least in the Test Squad ... yes this can give rise to team politics which has already hurt Pakistan badly but this can be controlled since management would be totally aware of it now and they can keep a close eye on the trouble makers ...

  • nomaan on August 3, 2010, 17:41 GMT

    its jst so sad to see our team in this mess. All i can say is that there is nothing wrong with this young team if there is something wrong, it is with the nut cases sitting in pakistan cricket board at lahore. why on earth first u not send younis khan with the team when he is willing to play, i'm ommiting M.Yousaf coz he has lived his life at international cricket, and if you have taken this decision then stick to it like men. Nothing against Yousaf he's a legend but there is time when everyone has to say quitz. Younis Khan has atleast 4 years of test cricket in him and he can contribute in rebuilding process of the team. Board of governers, selection commitee and people on key posts are all politically adjusted so there is no use saying anything about there pea brain knowledge about this game. Yes kamran akmal was pathetic and he does need a break from the team but what is the mistake of poor umar amin and azhar ali. poor kids have just entered in the team people.

  • samar on August 3, 2010, 17:27 GMT

    when is Imran Khan coming back? How about bringing Akram as well.Pakistan cricket is run like Pakistan the country.

  • Hanif on August 3, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    It is awaist of time to follow Pakistni team performance or Pakistan cricket. We do not select team on merit otherwise we more then half of this team should be doing some other useful work. When team is not selected on merit then there is no point to ask and expect logic in other decesion. Salman Butt's own place in test cricket can not be justified. They can cut Danish with one bad performance but Kamral Akmal (or Umar Akmal or Umar Amin) can play bad but they have assurance for thier position in team, it is a PUNJABI (only form PUNJAB) team, it is not a PAKISTANI team, eveyr thing is going int he right direction...very soon we will call PAKISTAN what is PUNJAB now.

  • SHAHID, Copenhagen on August 3, 2010, 17:22 GMT

    Here is the criminal gang:

    KAMRAN AKMAL + UMAR AKMAL + SALMAN BUTT + SHOAIB MALIK + IMRAN FARHAT.

    Fire them n bring in:

    YOUNIS, YOUSEF, YASER HAMEED, AZHAR ALI, TOUFIQ UMAR, FAWAD ALAM, NAEEM (wicketkeeper)

    make younis captain and I am sure it will work for a year TRY NAVED YASIN, ASAD, RAZA HASSAN, ABDULRAHMAN, HASSAN RAZA to back them up.

  • M. Aslam Zahid on August 3, 2010, 17:14 GMT

    Hey guys. Everyone is talking about inclusion of young talent in the team, but apart from one good innings by Azhar Ali, none of them scored a fifty. But the point is that after becomming Captain Salman Butt's own batting had failed dramatically. Keeping his average in test matches he even not fits in pakistan team but PCB made him Captain, i wonders, when the political scene be ousted from PCB by people of pakistan. I strongly believed that Yousaf, Younis and Asim Kamal must play in the team. Their presence in the team will definitely help the young gus as well. ONE THING I SUGGEST TO THE TEAM MANAGEMENT PLEASE DON'T GIVE FLAMABLE AND SENSELESS AND ILLOGICAL STATMENTS TO THE PRESS OR EVEN TO ELECTRONIC MEDIA

  • Fosh on August 3, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    Well said Kamran. However, fresh blood story is not a new one. It was the same story repeated after WC 2003. When Tauqeer Zia tried inject new blood and got rid of almost 8 senior players. So what happened in next world cup, WC 2007? With the new blood, what opener we got so far? how many heads rolled since then? It might had been a better strategy to keep our ever best opener Saeed Anwer in the squad and try new opener in the other slot. Another fresh bloood example you can see in Zimbabwe. where they got with this policy? Pakistan has a test team for last 55 years. How many test batsmen has average close to 50? It is not easy to produce a Miandad / Inzimam / yousuf. In the last, future talent generates becuase of role models, Imran in pakistan produce a crop of bowlers, Gavasker in India produces a crop of batsmen in India. Underming our hero cricketers will undermine future talent. No you cricket make Ijaz butt / naseem ashraf their ideal but Yousuf / Inai / waqar / Akarm.

  • usman on August 3, 2010, 16:56 GMT

    catches win matches ... thats it ...

  • syed rehman on August 3, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    Top management(political management) of any country trickles down to every department of the country i.e. finanace, education, industries and so forth, and sport is no exception. So look at our political management(presidents,prime ministers, governors, etc.) who are so corrupt that what we expect when they appoint highly incompetent BCCP officials with no sense of accountability. You can only perform when you are free from all sorts of frustration and fears and have great team spirits when you enter in the ground which is not there and cannot be there because of the fundamental and infrastructral mistakes. In all the developed world e.g. England and Australia, politicians has no say in sports and sports authorities are run by management and sports professionals with accountabilities to the public and media. Till that happens in pakistan, we will be watching these defeats with few accidental wins here and there.

  • Raza on August 3, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Strongly disagree with author, Yousuf is great man and great player, he will proove his mental if given chance. Youngsters can only fire if they have support of senior players

  • Abdul Majid Siddiqui on August 3, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    My dear Abbasi, although you are spot-on in most of your analysis and I agree to give some time to the pak team to establish themselves, but don't you think that enough time has already been given to players like Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal, they should be replaced immediately, especially Kamran Akmal we are just fed up his performances, may be he won us couple of games with his batsmanship but because of his gloveowrk Pakistan had lost many test matches. I would be grateful if you could locate his backing and connections in the PCB to play so long in the Pak test team after his continued pathetic performances

  • Bachha Jammoora on August 3, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    I don't like people defending, poor display of play by citing that we used to fail in the past so it is ok! is that way forward?? Waqar is good bowling coach but he has no idea of batting and is making his batsmen confused. If ball is seaming and swinging and you instruct your batsmen to defend at all costs, THEN EITHER YOU WILL SURVIVE OR GET OUT!! BUT NET-RESULT IS SAME AS YOU ARE NOT SCORING JUST PROLONGING YOUR MISERY AS OPPOSITION SENSES AND BECOMES MORE AND MORE ATTACKING, GAINING CONFIDENCE AND COTROL AND STANGULATING YOU FURTHER!!! No counter attack no smart handling of situation? To back my argument this match is open book to learn from! It is runs that counts, not defensive shots or techniques otherwise Sehwag/V.Richard/Chanderpaul/Katich/Gayle were not playing test cricket. Who deserve place in the team Mohd Yousaf or Shoab Malik?(You look fan as well??) Younas Khan or Umar Amin? A Keeper or KA (how many matches we need to loose before inevitable change??) Yasir

  • Umar Sheikh on August 3, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    Although Mr. Kamran has eloquently put forth his views in this article but I completely disagree with his views. First you do not groom Test cricket captains on a cricket field. Butt has paltry average of 31.60 in test cricket, is an awful fielder and pathetic runner between the wickets.He would not find a place in top 5 test cricket playing nations, just to imagine that you would build a test team around him is ludicrous, it's like betting on a limping horse to win the race.If Pakistan is serious about test cricket then they should recall both Younis and Yousuf and groom youngsters around them.Both of them average above 50 in test match cricket and it will be a shame to loose them or sideline them.Now this argument that Yousuf will be unprepared??? Well it is be true but commonsense tells me to still bet for old unprepared tiger than trained chicken to win the race.PCB especially Ijaz Butt has vindictive attitude which needs to change.

  • Bachha Jammoora on August 3, 2010, 16:24 GMT

    I don't like people defending, poor display of play by citing that we used to fail in the past so it is ok! is that way forward?? Waqar is good bowling coach but he has no idea of batting and is making his batsmen confused. If ball is seaming and swinging and you instruct your batsmen to defend at all costs, THEN EITHER YOU WILL SURVIVE OR GET OUT!! BUT NET-RESULT IS SAME AS YOU ARE NOT SCORING JUST PROLONGING YOUR MISERY AS OPPOSITION SENSES AND BECOMES MORE AND MORE ATTACKING, GAINING CONFIDENCE AND COTROL AND STANGULATING YOU FURTHER!!! No counter attack no smart handling of situation? To back my argument this match is open book to learn from! It is runs that counts, not defensive shots or techniques otherwise Sehwag/V.Richard/Chanderpaul/Katich/Gayle were not playing test cricket. Who deserve place in the team Mohd Yousaf or Shoab Malik?(You look fan as well??) Younas Khan or Umar Amin? A Keeper or KA (how many matches we need to loose before inevitable change??) Yasir

  • Nadeem on August 3, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    some are suggesting that this team is united. what crap, united we are falling. Also if there is merit, this unit is surely from the bottom of any such list. None of them have any standing in the world of cricket including salman butt because if selection was made on merit then e would be watching cricket on tv. Amir, Asif may be the exceptions but still have a long way to go. A series in the subcontinent will have a lot to say for that. the 2 Y's are likely to succeed more often than not. These novices have a chance to make it big with their presence unless they already think that they are meastros. therefore Mr. Abbasi, logic or no logic, for the sake of Pakistan Cricket the Y's should be recalled with all their honor even if we have to beg them to play for Pakistan. we have failed them as a nation by not acknowledging their services.

  • Hassaan Qureshi on August 3, 2010, 15:59 GMT

    Excellent article sir! I don't see why they haven't given much of a chance to Zulqarnain Haider. He was always the number 2 behind Kamran and before Sarfraz Ahmed, but he never got played. He deserves a chance. Yasir Hameed would be a good idea for a shuffle in the line up at one down or something, but that's about it.

  • atif on August 3, 2010, 15:55 GMT

    Assalam-o-alaikum, Dear I think that everybody criticized the way pakistani board has behaves so far in the past. To be honest ijaz butt doesn't have the sense of humor as he did not know when and what decision he has to take. Removal of yousuf after australian tour as a captain was the worst decision. I don't know if you are appointing somebody as a captain then why players wouldn't like to perform under him. Then appointing salman butt as a captain is also a big mistake.If you look at the pakistan batting line up then tell me who is experienced Imran farhat (who scored runs only when he got chances)and the better openers present in the side like yasir hameed are sitting on a bench. Given Umar amin a chance and dropping fawad alam simply shows how they take decisions.Umar amin doesnt have a foot movement then come he can play in english condition.I think recall of yousuf is a wise decision but why not younis when he is already there.

  • Salman on August 3, 2010, 15:49 GMT

    Who is the boss of Ijaz Butt (PCB)? Who has hired him, on what qualification and who is keeping him in this position? No one seems to cure the real problem. It is time we do that!!!! Remove the problem and all will be good. Is the boss of Ijaz Butt listening?

  • Asif Raza on August 3, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    Back stabbing in pakistan cricket team will never end. It needs a 'dictator' type captain to control the team and its potentials. 'My brother play I play' attitude has ruined the team and unfortunately two great batsmen were the victom. I wish Muhammad Yusuf good luck but at the same time what did the senior batsmen, like Salman Butt, Farhat, Kamran and Shoaib did ? I think they are just scared to death to face fast bowling. As far as PCB, they are only interested in making money. The record shows what Pakistan Cricket has acheived under this management, only disappointments !

  • S.M Arsalan Arif Khan on August 3, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    I am very happy with Mohammed Yousuf's recall but I really think Younis Khan deserves to be in the line up too.

  • Maqbool on August 3, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    In my opinion i think the team should be a mix of old and new so the newer players can learn from the more experienced, I think its good yousuf is back because our middle order is completely failing. Kamran Akmal should not play because his dropped catches are very costly and cause the rest of the fielders to field badly, and he hasnt got many runs in the last few innings.An allrounder is also needed instead of Malik who doesnt get many wickets and hasnt scored many runs. The team should be : Butt,Azhar Ali,Younis Khan,Yousuf,U Akmal,Azhar Mahmood/Abdul Razzaq,Zulqarnain Haider {wk},Gul,Amir,Asif,Ajmal

  • Fareed Memon on August 3, 2010, 15:26 GMT

    Assalamo-Alaikum Kamran Bhai, I appreciate your thinking but for me Younis Khan is not a good choice coz he is the one who spoiled Muhammad Yousuf's career when he was a captain. Now Pakistan shall not think for the come back of Younis, Yousuf and Misbah, now they are good for rest. Kamran Khan must be substituted by a youngster coz he can be a good batsman but not a good keeper so pakistan need a good wicket keeper. If we will put glance on Sri Lankan series in a near past I think Fawad Alam was the best scorer from Pakistan side and current team management really spoiled him by sending him on number 7 in T20 and the same scenario is with Razzaq so I think shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Umar Amin must be replaced by Fawad Alam/Razzaq, Zulqar nain or any other best wicket keeper and Yasir Hameed respectively. Besides that if Lords pitch does not favour Kaneria than Ajmal shall be given a chance.

  • Navaid on August 3, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    Trying to find logic, reason and rationale in Pakistan cricket is as futile an effort as looking for depth and substance in Paris Hilton. It isn't that we got out on a meager score but the "senior" batsmen have failed to take responsibility and bear the burden. Yousuf maybe a good batsmen but as a teammate he is the Benedict Arnold or Mir Jafar of Pakistan cricket. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

  • PakCricFan on August 3, 2010, 15:21 GMT

    Kamran bhai, You logic is more illogical than Waqar and Salman's. First of all playing entirely new batsmen at #3 and #4 is disastrous. Do you really think PCB will give long ropes to these batsmen? I dont think. I am really surpirsed that Waqar Younus can give this kind of statement, I thought after sitting with greats in commentary box his thinking might have improved but it is not. Few things should have been done in selection: 1. Bring young batsmen but those young batsmen should be from tried and tested lot like Fawad Alam, Yasir Hameed etc. Like India brings Suresh Raina or Murali Vijay if needed. 2. Keep at least one of Ys in the team, and if they are really ruining the team and work against team then ban them for life and never consider them. 3. Drop Shoaib Malik for ever, if Pakistan really needs alrounder bring Razzaq or Azhar Mahmood. 4. Have a good batting coach like Zaheer Abbas or Miandad.

  • Talha Naeem on August 3, 2010, 15:21 GMT

    Dropping yousuf and younis before this tour was the worst decision in the history of pakistan cricket.Surely they should include yousuf in the side. even Fawad Alam should be brought back into the side. i find know reason why he was dropped from test matches despite of a very good performance. None of the batsmen of our current team which played at trent bridge, would have been selected in the pakistani cricket team of the 1990s. And that includes our captain Salman Butt as well. He is a very average batsman and looks to be a very nervous charachter. If he is the captain of the side, then you can well imagine, the decline in pakistani cricket in the past decade.

  • Fareed Memon on August 3, 2010, 15:21 GMT

    Assalamo-Alaikum Kamran Bhai, I appreciate your thinking but for me Younis Khan is not a good choice coz he is the one who spoiled Muhammad Yousuf's career when he was a captain. Now Pakistan shall not think for the come back of Younis, Yousuf and Misbah, now they are good for rest. Kamran Khan must be substituted by a youngster coz he can be a good batsman but not a good keeper so pakistan need a good wicket keeper. If we will put glance on Sri Lankan series in a near past I think Fawad Alam was the best scorer from Pakistan side and current team management really spoiled him by sending him on number 7 in T20 and the same scenario is with Razzaq so I think shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Umar Amin must be replaced by Fawad Alam/Razzaq, Zulqar nain or any other best wicket keeper and Yasir Hameed respectively. Besides that if Lords pitch does not favour Kaneria than Ajmal shall be given a chance.

  • Yasser Malik on August 3, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    They need to bring Yousuf and Younus back.

  • MG hashmi (AUSTRALIA on August 3, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    Actually The PCB should be PCS which stands for Pakistan Comedy Show,the whole cricketing world is laughing on us regardless of a good talent we have.And IJAZ..........but he hasnt got the message yet,he must be the most stubborn person on earth,he should let the young team deal with the situation and learn from their mistakes instead of sending someone who has a very good past but not sure of the future.Things wont change overnight it will take a time and patience and let the small plant grow into a strong tree!

  • Haseeb Ahmed on August 3, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Come on Kamran. We need both the Ys--surely you know that. And I've never quite figured out what exactly Yusuf's fault is. Sure he's not the most articualte person around and perhaps wholly lacks social and management skills. But the guy is here to score runs not to manage the team. Statistics surely don't tell all but Yusuf is, statistically, Pakistan's best batsman ever (average, centuries). Similar considerations would demand a Younis recall as well. Point is simple: let these guys do their jobs and make it clear to them there is but only one job for them to do---score runs.

  • Qasim Cheema on August 3, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Hi Kamran,

    I disagree with your view, there is nothing wrong in coming up with a younger team and captain which actually PCB did. However there should be definitely Mohammad Yousaf in team from the beginning of this England Tour. Youngsters like Azhar Ali, Umar Amin and even Umar Akmal Need guidance from the senior player from the other end and i am sure Mohammad Yousuf would have done it nicely.

    PCB now realized this and sending him to join the team as ever a reactive behavior. Very immature from a "so called" professional body.

  • Ali Malik on August 3, 2010, 15:11 GMT

    Kamran Bhai,there is a lot of logic in what PCB is doing.First of all, let us just forget the fact that this is the beginning of a new era and all of that"era"hopes.Practically speaking,this Pakistan team is showing no signs of talent.People like Umar Amin,Azhar Ali andImran Farhat have not produced at all.They have been given 6 innings to play and have still failed.Further on,the Akmal brothers have also failed but understandably so, they cannot be taken out of the team because they have shown hints of talent, although rarely but still the talent is there.This is international cricket-even at league levels we are given one or two chances maximum since there is so much competition.For God's sake,This is Pakistans national cricket team.Anyways,besides all these of my opinions, the fact is that Pakistan team cannot make more than 150 runs at this level.An out of form Yousuf is better than Pakistans top 5 players combined.I dont care about the new era-i wanna see the best of my country!!

  • Ahmed on August 3, 2010, 15:10 GMT

    I think Pakistan needs to call back Saeed Anwar, Inzimaam, Younis and Yousuf. Even in their current state, they will be better than this sorry lot.

  • Rooji on August 3, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    Forgot to mention one thing: you can have an experienced batsmen on the team to improve and help Pakistan batting line-up, which they dearly need but there are proper ways of doing so and the way PCB is handling is just making Pak Cricket a joke than something to be taken seriously. There was a reason why Pakistan was the best team during Imran Khan rein because we have level-headed officials making decisions, not some Cuckoo Doctors of a Pagal Khana (Asylum). As much as I want the two Y's I'm not in favor of their decisions, I believe Pak need batting coach of Inzi or Miandad for Test, not a player replacing another player in the squad or bringing a retired player to play. What sort of person runs the place like this w/o regarding any rules and regulations? I know rules are meant to be broken but to this extent and to this audacity? Don't think so! Please people get a grip and get the 3 characteristics I mentioned. Pak has a long way to go and yet to learn a lot!

  • Syed Ali Khan on August 3, 2010, 15:03 GMT

    Having an experienced batsman in the middle of this inexperienced Pakistani team is probably the only logical thing.It is so obviously the only logical thing. This is not street or club cricket where you send an underprepaired, inexperienced players. The only thing that will happen to some talented young gun in our team (Umar Akmal, Umar Amin, Azhar ) is loss of confidence that might cause irrepairable damage to their promising and budding careers. especially Umar Akmal. Poor Umar Akmal seemed totally at sea and it was heart wrenching and pathetic to see him, probably the most talented cricketer at the moment, being put in toughest situations without any guide or clue! We definitely need a MohD Yousuf, Younis Khan in the middle to shore up the upcoming talents and help them realize their potentials just like the great Miandad who groomed and guided Inzimam and Yousaf to greatness. This is the only logical step to take.

  • sumon on August 3, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    1. Salman Butt* 2. Imran Farhat / Yasir Hameed 3. Younis Khan 4. Mohammed Yousuf 5. Umar Akmal 6. Misbah /Malik 7. Kamran Akmal (no othaer good choice) 8. Mohammad Amir 9. Umar Gul / Sohail Tanvir 10. Saeed Ajmal / Kaneria 11. Mohammed Asif

  • Rooji on August 3, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    I'm a huge cricket fan & more than that a Pak Cricket fan. Winning is like a blessing for Pak but if we can't win, I'd rather see us loose w/ a fight than w/o 1. Yet I believe drastic actions by PCB is scarring Pak Cricket team, be it talent or no talent. I think the author is just pointing out that drastic decisions & lack of communication can really hurt Pak Cricket in the long run & he is right that we should at least give some time to the youngsters before making such harsh decision that may bring down their confidence & of so many talents or youngsters out there. Axing Kaneria was wrong & bringing in retired player is even worse, especially when you are aware that the whole team don't see eye-to-eye with him. In order to make the team better, you need to have patience, communication, and unity which they lack. and how can the team learn when our own people lack such characteristics (take the whole Punjabis vs. Phattan comments= shame on you people, coz of you Pak is in bad shape)

  • david on August 3, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    salmaan bhat is selfish he is threatened by yousuf and younus all praises to Afridi for trying to gel this team toghther

  • MAHMOOD ZAMAN GHORI OF CHECHIAN on August 3, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    This is for all the gentlemen & ladies who are missing the point and arguing yousaf or younis are good and should be back and who else doesnt deserve to be in the side and who else does. It is completely irrelevant as to who deserves to be in the side and who doesn't, the point is that the board has selected the squad for the tour and should stick with their decisions. There's no point reacting after every defeat. If the same team had won the last test, everyone would have been praised as a hero and there would be no talk of anyone else. We need someone proactive running the Pakistan cricket not someone who reacts to every negative result. VISION is what is required and secondly persistence with the selected squad. Thank God they are not sending another coach after one loss........

  • Luqman Khushi on August 3, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    PCB and Pak Team is a totally messed up affair where merit has no place. With a strong political clout Ijaz Butt is there to destroy potential whatever is left in Pak team, and Shoaib Malik despite being a better cricketer, needs a son of a minister to be in the team. No young team can take on a strong opposition without an experienced caption there to lead them, and here we have a novice. Imran Khan although an exception, himself injured, short of an attacking bowler like Waqar Younus and using half-a-bowler like Suhail bowling full 10 overs, got us World Cup sheer by his shrewd captaincy. Summing up, you need a balanced team including some seniors, led by a senior, instead of throwing all youngster into the yard for slaughter. Shahid Afridi as a captain, what a joke ? His so called heroics in the field lasted pressure of just one game. He is lucky that during his most of playing years, he has had some greats in the team and he has been able to perform almost pressure free.

  • Sohaib Hasan Khan on August 3, 2010, 14:42 GMT

    Spot on Kamram Sb!!!!

  • Mansoor on August 3, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Is it logical to discuss logic about PCB’s decisions?? Is it a logical to:

    Ban players (there must be a reason for that) and then not only UNBAN them??? Make one of them Vice captain? Or to kick Kaneria out and keep Kamran (the mafia) Akmal in? Can someone explain why Shoaib Malik suddenly comes in the test team, when, as per YAWAR Saeed, he was OUT OF FORM and not selected for the previous test. How did he regain form in a 4-5 days? If he is in the team as senior player (LOL) why does he bat at No. 6? Why not at No. 3? Is it logical to bring back Yousuf but not Younis?? Is it logical to play Imran (The damad) Farhat and not even try Yasir Hameed? With which logic Fawad Alam is out of the test squad? Any logic in Salman Butt’s defending kamran Akmal???? Did Kamran fail in only one test match?? Is he a good batsman in test cricket?? How many more catches we want him to drop?? How many more matches we want to lose? before PCB thinks of dropping Kamran forever? Did anyone ask Umer (The prince) Akmal, why he told Azhar not to appeal the obvious bad umpiring decision?

    NO ONE CAN TOUCH EJAZ BUTTs or SHOAIB MALIKs UNTIL WE HAVE AHMAD MUKHTAR’s AND FIRDOUS ASHIQ AWANs IN POWER.

  • Number09 on August 3, 2010, 14:33 GMT

    Zaheer. - you are illogical by claiming Support Yousef and not Younis who is scoring runs in county cricket and has adapted to the conditions.

  • Riffat Hussain on August 3, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    Dear Kamran what future are you talking about. These new batsmen what first class experience do they have? What is their first class average? If this is Pakistan's future in cricket God help them. It was a mistake not playing Younis and Yousuf in the first place and if a mistake is being rectified it should be welcomed. It is not the defeat or the victory we are discussing but the batting. You might pick an inexperienced bowler or even one or two inexperienced batsmen but not the whole lineup. Come to think of it what is Salman's average in tests? Compare the same to batsmen around the world and he might not have made it into these teams. It was very petty of him to doubt the credentials of far better batsmen than himself.True they might not have been part of winning teams in England but look at their average in those conditions and you can see that they are far better than Salman and company.Salman should learn to be humble and give respect to his superiors.

  • SN on August 3, 2010, 14:23 GMT

    The other point nobody is talking about is the the fact that when Yousuf and Younis are on the crease they help players like Umar Akmal stay on the crease. Umar Akmal scored runs in last tour of Newzeland and Australia but scored not even a single fifty in his last 6 Test innings which shows that he is still inexperienced and need experienced players to play with him so he can stay on the crease and not give his wicket away which he did in his last 6 innings. We need proven experinced batsman in the Team to guide these young talented batsman for 2-3 years. We also need to get rid of midocres like Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat and Kamran Akaml and bring some new talent instead of getting rid of great players like M YOusuf and good players like Younis. If Farhat and S.Malik can be given chances again and again we can bring Asim Kamal back. Pakistan also need an all rounder may be Azhar Mahmood or Razzaq not S.Malik who can't take wickets and score runs, Let's kick S.Malik out from the Team.

  • Ejaz Khalid Farooqui on August 3, 2010, 14:17 GMT

    Assalam-O-Alaikum, I totally agree with Dr. Masood Ahmed from India. His suggestion are the best in these conditions as we are in a must need of having experience like Muhammad Yousuf, Misbah ul Haq and if possible Younis Khan in our test squad especially. Asim Kamal is best of youngsters currently we are having and a young energetic wicket keeper like Muhammad Salman also need to replace Kamran Akmal. This will give some rest to Kamran Akmal so he can re-establish his qualities.

  • Tanoli on August 3, 2010, 14:15 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, there is no doubt that the PCB is disillusioned but I’ve noticed that you also belong to the same category. You along with Samuddin have flip flop personalities . You are never happy when Yosaf /Yonis are ousted and you cannot digest it either when they are included…..We have players in the team with lot of match practice but losing like crazy…why not call a guy who have proven record…Even if he doesn’t perform, his presence will make things easier for struggling middle order…. Just a one comment for all of you….Learn to live happily with what you have….There is nothing anyone of you can do in this regard. Remember, Zardari/Butt are running the circus and we all are part of that circus…..Lets stand up and bring a legitimate change…change that will cure many our problems (Inshallah)

  • qaiser aziz cardiff uk on August 3, 2010, 14:11 GMT

    I disagree with mr salman butt here because all he is thinking about his captancy instead of country.We do need to bring Younas khan and Mohammad yousaf back to our test team.The batting display against England in the 1st test was terrible.Our young batting line up have not got a clue how to handle swing and seem in English conditions.I thing Umar amin and Umar Akmal should have some rest now because they are not up to test standerds.They should include Yasir hameed instead of Imran farhat so we can have a right hand/left hand combination to open the innings.Umar amin should be replaiced by Yousaf(who at least knows how to handle swing bowling) and Kaneria should be replaiced by Saeed ajmal because English batsmen dont play off spinners very well.

  • Adnan Manzoor on August 3, 2010, 14:10 GMT

    What one can smell from the words of Salman Butt is that he is not in favor of having Yousuf or Younis and believes that he alone can work magics. Same mistake was repeated by Yousuf when he was captain of the side. the test of any leadership is always how he assess the core competencies of his team. If a team cannot make 100 in one innings there is definitely something wrong structurally and time can never mend that structural deficiencies in team. Kaneria paid the price for mistakes made by Akmal and no one is good enough to see where the problem lies.. I am sure there is another rate race going on for failing Butt as captain of the side...

  • taha mahmood on August 3, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    I really need somebody to answer my question why Umar Amin is constantly being selected, his first class average is mediocre and has failed in his 9 international innings so far. Why is Fawad Alam dropped, he averages 56 in FC, higher than Younis and Yousuf when they were his age, what crime has he commited. Somebody needs to go and talk to Younis khan and tell him to apologise to Ijaz Butt, he has done nothing wrong but he must understand that people of Pakistan and their happiness is more important than Younis's honour, in some ways he should think of this as a sacrifice for the country. I think the test team should be like this but will never be cause of PCB politics.

    1.Butt 2.Azhar 3.Younis 4.Yousuf 5.F.Alam 6.U.Akmal 7.K.Akmal (havent yet been convinced by Sarfraz and zulquernain had no clue in the tour match) 8.Aamer 9.Gul 10.Asif 11.Ajmal in short term/ Raza Hasan in long term, looks a great prospect.

    Please someone answer my question

  • Bedoon Esam on August 3, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    It has always amazed me that when you have someone like IMRAN KHAN available to you why would you choose anyone else to lead your Cricket Board. Wouldnt it make more sense to IMRAN KHAN as the PCB Chief rather than Ijaz Butt and his ilk???

  • Waqas Iftikhar on August 3, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    AOA TO ALL THERE IS NO SOLOUTION TO CHANGE PAK CRICKET TEAM IN TEST THEY HAVE A GOOD BATSMAN LIKE YASIR HAMEED,ASIM KAMAL,YOSUF AND YONIS KHAN YASIR AND ASIM ARE THE FUTUREOF PAK TEAM

  • Razzaq Ali on August 3, 2010, 13:47 GMT

    What are people talking about. This is the way forward .. Who is kidding who. The batting is a joke.... they have no idea what is going on! 47 -6 in the first inning and 41- 7 in the second. Our tailenders are better than the top order. Why are we burying our head in the sands. We will never get another 4 match test series! Two match series are the max in this climate. The selectors should hold their head in shame. 1) Salman Butt - does not know where his off stumps is 2) Imran Farhat - does not know where his off stumps is as well 3) Azhar Ali - could be retained 4) Umar Amin - Found wanting need two season on A tour duty 5) Umar Akmal - the hype is over for him as the next Javed Miandad 6) Shoaib Malik - should be retained. 7) Kamran Akmal - Should the given the boot! He has been the culprit of Sydney and now Nottingham. he can't keep and certainaly cannot bat. Then the tailenders the real find for Pakistan capable of taking 20 wickets. Where are the Y's. Need experience

  • sohail on August 3, 2010, 13:46 GMT

    Why Malik is still playing.... he is bad with bat and bowl.. Why Farhat is still in team.. he has been tested so many time and result is 0... I am 200% sure, imran nazir is much better technically then Farhat, Azhar Ali and Umar Amin... why he is no being given a chance who scored 100 against Waslh and Ambrose...

    So many unwanted played in team and result is predictable.. PAK will lost by 4 - 0 ( may be an inning defeat in next match)

  • Atif on August 3, 2010, 13:45 GMT

    I don't know what grudges Kamran Abbasi holding against Mohammad Yousf, but he is a class act, you can't keep him out of business considering the fact that your batting talent is as thin as paper sheet. It is disappointing to know that Bangladesh's top order batting average is better then Pakistan.

    Yousf and Younis is definitely required in middle order, Umar Amin simply can't bat at all while Azhar Ali have some spark. Fawad Alam is a very talented cricketer and excellent fielder, his batting average support my view so he should be part of the team.

    My team for second test would be,

    Salman Butt Imran Farhat Younis Khan Mohammad Yousf Yasir Hameed Umar Akmal Zulqarnain Haider (WK) Mohammad Amir Umar Gul Saeed Ajmal Mohammad Asif

    Salman butt is better team spokesman then test batsmen or captin, i simply can't understand some of his decisions and logics.

  • Mohammad Asad on August 3, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Before taking any decision regarding replacement or include any player into the current squad, I. Butt should consult with coach & captain........but He is the King..I mean kind of dictator.... He does not Care!!!!!!!!!!!!! In first place; instead of sending whole brand new team (though a virus Malik is there) they should send a mixture of senior & young players..... I agree with Kamran regarding logic!!!!but as an emergency inclusion of Yousuf is not bad...but coach & captain should be consulted first......

  • Wajid on August 3, 2010, 13:37 GMT

    For once Kamran, I dont agree with you. The logic behind the recall of MY is simple - RUNS!! The current team looks a complete utter shambles, this is evidenced by the fact that we havent managed to score more than 250 runs in 6 innings of batting in england up to date. Lets face it, Salman Butt is the only half decent player we have. Imran Farhat is way too inconsistent in his batting, and then takes too many tips of catching from Kamran Akmal - dropping a sitter at trent bridge. Umar Akmal, is talented, but as things stand, he is well and truely over-rated at test match level. Azhar Ali and Umar Amin, should start their international careers on sub-continent pitches, it will help them come into the international scene on a more confortable manner, )(poor guys have probably never been outside of pakistan!!). obvious logic in bringing back both the YY's.

    Anyone who argues that Pakistan have made a mistake in the re-call of MoYo is either stupid or doesnt know his/her cricket!!!!

  • Talha on August 3, 2010, 13:36 GMT

    Aoa Kamran bhai! I do agree with you. They would have called Saeed Ajmal for Danish Kaneria and Sarfaraz Ahmad for Kamran Akmal. I think Umar Amin does not deserve being in the side. The middle order is not at all solid in performance. They do need good batsmen as well. The return of Mohd Yousuf can be a good decision. He can still play for 4 to 5 years.

  • S.M Arsalan Arif Khan on August 3, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    Disagree. I absolutely support Mohammed Yousuf's inclusion.

  • bohurupi on August 3, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    Agree that interference from the top would do more harm than good at this point. The problem lies in the spirit of the team and importing one or two retired, slack players hardly gonna fix the problems. When Pakistan is batting, particularly against a good score, they always appear to lack a sense of direction, temperament, patience, resilience or even common sense. They freak out to the extent that they find it hard to play their natural game. We know this a team full with young and budding talents but grossly inexperienced too. Probably, at this time what the team needs is an highly experienced batsmen to be appointed as a batting coach. I feel someone should be chosen who not only can technically advise the batsmen in concert with the situation on the ground but can also constantly infuse and instill a sense of confidence, which the team badly needs.

  • AZFAR on August 3, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Kamran needs to rest or come in as a batsmen if he can qualify. He has messed up too many inings now for Pakistan..could have seen different results if chances and half chances were taken. Play who you want, the sparks of brialiance show up here and there but you cannot have faith in these. The spin bowling was a disaster! No Success! The quickies did their part better than anyone else in the side, created chances but batsmen falter! The likes of Salman Butt the best right now was reduce to look so oridnary in these two innings. Kamran had a pair of ducks, Malik was oridnary. Umar I will say dissapointed everyone, we need to ensure it is not getting in his head. And we really cannot blame Umar Amin and Azhar Ali if they failed in this pressure. Yousuf and Younis? I dont know if that is the answer? What happened in Austrailia with the best team they had with Misbah and all? SO NO WE NEED TO GET MENTALLY VERY STRONG, TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF AND ENJOY PLAYING CRICKET.IT'S NOT FUN RIGHT NOW!

  • Noshir Mody on August 3, 2010, 13:23 GMT

    Bring in a true leader like the incomparable Imran Khan (assuming he is agreeable) as head of the PCB, give him a little time and watch Pakistan cricket take off to heights it has never seen before. The Pakistan cricket fans and supporters deserve to see a competitive Pakistan playing test and other formats of this wonderful game. Our batsmen are talented; they need more coaching in the fine art of playing test criket. We are not going to win every match but we must be competitive otherwise Pakistan cricket will be, if it is not already, likened to the so called minnows. At present, we may have a tough time winning test matches even against the minnows!!

  • Sherry on August 3, 2010, 13:23 GMT

    I agree with Mr Kamran, every one has there own opinion about pak cricket and players. I think PCB has given enough chances to low players like amin and azhar. Why not bring Yousuf and Younis as we all know they are top quality test and odi players. I disagree with Salman Butt he has no sense whats so ever. He became Pak captain first time in his entire life and trying to tell media that what yousuf and younis did in the past??? Let me remind you butt they are better players then you in any format of the game. I dont think salman butt has T20 spot in up coming series against England. We should give chance to Imran Nazir. Malik and Akmal brothers are worst politicians. Why Yasir Hamid is not playing if he is in the squad or Razzaq. Sorry for PCB some times I dont even feel like supporting these players.

  • Shaukat Ali on August 3, 2010, 13:22 GMT

    I had watched some part of the match and understood that all players technic is bias. How can you play a swing bowling without proper technic and lack of concentration. If somebody says that our bowling was fantastic then he is trying to built a castle in the air. If our bowling was fantastic then why they were begging for last wicket. What I observe captain should learn more queickely and not to give easy ride towards a century once the last wicket is playing at the crease. I can't stop myself to look in the matter of MoYo and S.Malik, later one is corrupt which everybody know. Who is in the team without any contribution to team except to play for himself. What I observe he is not a test player. PCB should release Shoaib Malik too as he does not fit in the squad. No one talk about poor fellow Abdul Razzak, PCB and Shoaib Malik's conspiracies made him out of the squad. He is still genius and a good choice for One down position which everybody ignore.

  • S.H. Mohan on August 3, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    Patience is one commodity missing in the top heirarchy of cricket boards and Public generally in the sub continent but especially in Pakistan. Mr. Ijaz Butt is criticised both when he acts or when he does not act. But kneejerk reactions are more harmful in the long run. Once having selected an young team and having given the reins to a young captain in Salman Butt, it would have been better is the confidence is continued. There are no developments that have have changed the reasons for Yusuf's banning from the game. If he was bad three months ago, how can he suddenly become the saviour after three months!

  • S.H. Mohan on August 3, 2010, 13:12 GMT

    Patience is one commodity missing in the top heirarchy of cricket boards and Public generally in the sub continent but especially in Pakistan. Mr. Ijaz Butt is criticised both when he acts or when he does not act. But kneejerk reactions are more harmful in the long run. Once having selected an young team and having given the reins to a young captain in Salman Butt, it would have been better is the confidence is continued. There are no developments that have have changed the reasons for Yusuf's banning from the game. If he was bad three months ago, how can he suddenly become the saviour after three months!

  • Ali on August 3, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    The reasoning sounds good as the coach and the captain should be consulted first before making any radical change to the team composition. However, I strongly feel that we should get rid of the word 'talent' from our cricketing dictionary and instead add a rather unknown word 'performance' in place of that. Yes, I agree that most of the youngters are talented, yet the place to learn is first class cricket, not test cricket. The board is not doing any good to the 'half boiled' youngsters who end up losing their confidence, position in team and hope when failed. I definitely question the logic of dropping kaneria and leaving kamran akmal in the team. Even if you bring shane wanrne and murli and give them Kamran Akmal to keep wickets, we are bound to see Warne and Murli failed miserably. Its one thing to be a knee-jerk reactionary but equally criminal is to keep persisting the failed players hoping they learn one day.

  • Dr Fayyaz H Ali on August 3, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    Over the past 25 years, i have been with cricket as a fan, gone through tears and joy. I have seen pakistan loosing badly and taking it back from lowest but never got bored like i feel nowadays. Ejaz Butt, the most ugly face, is a cancer for Pakistan Cricket. Like cancer, his ill and sick thoughts are spreading day by day and it needs immediate surgical mannipulation sooner, not later. I hope and pray that the Surgeon at the moment for the job that is President Asif Zardari would soon make it happen and let the cricket world of players and fans breathe happily.

  • Ketan Mayecha on August 3, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    The wrong Butt (salman) is getting his butt kicked.....it should ideally be the other Butt (Ijaz) What a mess - being a national cricket selection committee dont they have the guts to hang on to a new team even for just one series ???

  • Kaleem Choudhry on August 3, 2010, 13:04 GMT

    I totally agree with Kamran. Our cricket board does not have the patience or a plan and they do not even know how to make a TEAM of players. They should stick with their guns and should not say things which they would change the next day. PCB does not learn from the mistakes they have made in the past. If they want to see how to run a cricket board then they should look at Sri Lanka or Australia. Personally I am not upset at Salman Butt and rest of the team. Yes they could've played better but atleast give them some time to establish and work together as a team. We do not need Younis or Yusuf back. They had their chances already. I am so disappointed at PCB.

  • Zaheer Javed on August 3, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    VERY WELL SAID MR. KAMRAN, LOOK BACK TO THE HISTORY OF CRICKET, JUST KEEP IN MIND HOW NEW COMMERS WERE TEACHED, HOW TO TACKLE THE PRESSURE, HOW SENSED THE CONDITIONS OF GAME, HOW MOULD YOURSELF ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION OF MATCH. SENIOR PLAYERS DID THIS FOR THE TEAMS & NATIONS. A BRILLIANT COACH CAN ADVISE NEWCOMERS THE TRICKS & SKILLS OF GAME, BUT A SENIOR PLAYER WITH A JUNIOR AT CREASE IS SOMETHING ELSE. ONLY A SENIOR PLAYER CAN GUIDE A JUNIOR HOW TO PLAY IN ANY KIND OF CONDITION OR SITUATION. M.YOUSAF'S RECALL SHOULD BE SEEN IN THAT WAY, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE WILL NOT GIVE US BIG SCORES BUT INDEED HE CAN DELIVER HIS KNOWLEDGE & EXPERIENCE OF CRICKT TO THESE TELENTED PLAYERS WHO HAVE NO GUIDLINES IN THESE PRESSURE CONDITONS. PLAYING WITH SUCH A CLASS BATSMAN WILL HELP THEM TO BECOME GOOD & THAN EXCELLENT FUTURE FOR OUR TEAM.

  • Zain Adeeb on August 3, 2010, 12:58 GMT

    Great article as always; but for once I will take the opposite side. We need Yousuf back, and if anything, we ALSO need Younis back. Having a young side is great, but these kids are clearly unprepared with the bat. Even our 1 test win was all due to the bowlers.

    Also, let us remember, Umar Akmal did great when Yousuf was in the team, and now he is struggling so much, it is not a coincidence, it is exp.

    We need somebody like Yousuf & Younis to guide them and teach them cause we have nobody on this tour who is a good batsman outside Pakistan. If anything, the relationship you mention with Shoaib Malik; Malik should be the one to be cut and removed, his form is way worse then Yousuf and his actions were far more hurtful to the team.

    Finally, I would just say this to the rest of the Pakistani Cricket fans like myself. Just imagine if with this bowling attack doing what it is doing our batting line up instead was: Butt - Hameed open Younis - Yousuf - Umar Akmal - AKamal/Fawad Alam

  • gauhar sharih on August 3, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    Further to my earlier comments, just another thought. The PCB chairman Ijaz Butt is clearly supra-tentorially challenged. In order for this Pakistan team to progress, Mr Butt must be immediately culled, and replaced by an individual from a species with more than two neurones and one synapse. Good luck team Pak.

  • Waqas Khawaja on August 3, 2010, 12:49 GMT

    I think there was no need of Mulla Yousaf. They should try this team in this format for entire tour and let them perfom no matter even they bowled out for Zero Salman Butt,Imran Farhat,Yasir Hamid,Azhar Ali,Shoaib Malik,Umar Akmal,Zulqarnain Haider,Umer Gul,Mohammad Aamir,Saeed Ajmal,Mohammad Asif .Mulla Yousaf is always making fun of himself and has problem with every single player .Even once he called Salman a selfish cricketer.How is he going to play with him and Shoaib Malik.

  • Terry Gonsalves on August 3, 2010, 12:48 GMT

    The decision of the PCB to recall Yousuf is without purpose and logic and I am in agreement with Kamran. This is a young team,that must be persevered with. In Waqar and Ijaz, the players have the very best of mentors and will only improve. In England, with the swinging ball and overcast conditions, the best have failed. This team will learn and grow. Give this team time and encouragement. Pakistan cricket has been fraught with politics and was only rescued in the time of the great Imran Khan. The appeal to the PCB is to look up and forward and to get their heads out of the sand.

  • Ab Sheikh on August 3, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I agree and disagree with your comments. I agree that bringing back Yousuf is a backward step, but should he have been in this position in the first place? It is again the the PCB being run by clowns that has made a person who has not played a test match in 4 years the capatin, who was in turn responsible for pushing out one of the best captain pakistan have had in a while. We need the 2 Y's to settle in the youngsters, they need a full-time batting coach and a fielding coach, a the fact the PCB think they do not need one shows the difference with the mentality of other boards and ours. Bring back Asim Kamal, keep Ali and Umin in the squad and let them learn these conditions. Also another suggestion, PCB setup a team based in the English county system to blood youngsters to these conditions and make them well rounded players.

  • kashif aziz on August 3, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    This decision is not bad at all but I think it is late. They should have included M Yousuf from start. He is a legend and even young players do need him. He will certenly improve the confidence even if he does not perform. The youn ones will take courage from him. I think salman butt and waqar should not make it personal and let him play. And for shaoib malik, in my opinion he does not deserve a place in any format of the game. He is just a misfit.

  • Ibrar on August 3, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    I am FURIOUS at Ijaz Butt. Who is this guy and where has he come from. More importantly, why has no one put a hit on him? He doesn't deserve the air he breathes. He brings Yusy; a 36 year old that is WAY past his best and can only help in this and possibly next series only.

    Yea, logic says that this is the better selection, rather than a 32 year old Younis, who I have believed was a better player of swing anyway and has been in England playing in English conditions for a first class team.

    This guy (Ijaz Butt) is as smark as a PLANK OF WOOD and MORE STUBBORN THAN A DONKEY, nay a MULE.

  • K on August 3, 2010, 12:40 GMT

    I am no Ejaz Butt supporter, but why the hell are we seeking logic here? Shouldn't it exactly be this way? The PCB should provide(select) players and the team needs to adapt to whoever they have amongst them. The captain has to make do with whatever team he gets. Same goes for the coach. And wasn't Salman Butt saying that he will lead whatever team the board gives him? So why should he care about whether anyone consulted him or not? And if he doesn't care neither should anyone else. It is exactly the kind of politics that has plagued Pakistan cricket. Where the players try to flex their muscle and force the board to make decisions that are in their favor. And then the board responds with a display of it's own power. This shouldn't be happening at all. IMO, the board should be the one selecting players and the captain and coach should be mature enough to handle anyone. No matter how inept is the board's selection.

  • Malik abdullah on August 3, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    Dear Kamran - i just want to say it is very good move from salman butt not taking any oldies in the team- my good to wshies to butt- we need few changes in team 4 next match bring hameed in in place of u.amin and birng shoaib malik in the 1 down position he is good in that post-throw farhat in place of fawad alam - i hope with this move it will be a good side to fight back - go pak go salam butt -- get rid 0f oldies-

    go salman butt go waqar yunus

    malik

  • Muhammad Butt on August 3, 2010, 12:37 GMT

    Great article.. i totally agree that respect should be given to players. captain and the coach for stability to build. Calling Yousaf and Younis back is a decision i support but not in the way PCB did i.e. not consulting the team. If the board keeps behaving the way they are.. i dont see pakistan becoming world beaters in the near future..i hope PCB learns to trust their players soon!

  • Yasin Chinoy on August 3, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    Kamran Bhai, great insight on PCB. I personally think young cricketers should be given ample opportunities to come of experience and age, then only, they will develop their skills. Playing domestic cricket and making thousands of runs and taking hundreds of wickets is not the same as playing in the test arena and with international sides. I also suggest that PCB should be revamped and only positive personnel should run this board. Pakistan has tremendous talent, but all the politics is not going to help them flourish.

  • Khalid Arif Siddiqui, Jeddah - S. Arabia on August 3, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    Logic is something alien to PCB as the most illogical fact is the big BUTT despite being a baffoon is the Chairman. there are many other illogical things happening in PCB so one must take that only illogical things are the order of the day. With the big BUTT (he is nothing else but a big BUTT)there one should not hope for anything but worse so why crib about it.

  • Noor on August 3, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    Kamran I think U hit it right on the nail .My late father use to say "Comon sense is not very comon .if it is comon then whole world would be a paradise but that is not the case .Now the wonderful PCB .No body is at fault besides the PCB I have said thsi several times in my comments that some body needs to shut this BUTT.The PCB academy has become a wedding hall for Ministers ,how about that .The irregularities are so enormous that I need lot of time.Why did the minister went with hsi whole family to Lords .He goes every where wit the team .In 20 world cup the guy was in Carribean on PCB expense & 5 star hotels Oh my God is there a wheel on this deal.These all things effect the team in some shape & form . There is so much of Politics in the team that is unbeliveable. Shoaib needs to go please.He is on Ministers request so as Kamran akmal.Yasir Hameed needs to be in so as Mohd Yusuf & Younis .We need a batting coach ,bowling coach is doing his job really well.

  • Abid Khan on August 3, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    Thank you for your comments Kamran. I do agree with the points you make. As a fan of Pak Cricket for nearly 30 years I am sure I share the level of fustration as most fans. The point I want to make is that with Waqar being the bowling coach I cannot understand why the bowling is so bad at times. I counted about 3 bouncers in the whole match. a few slower balls, don;t remember any yorkers. Other than poor batting and feilding, I feel other factors of the game have let the side down. Kamran Akmal and the slips were far too back. no close catchers. Alot of other tactics could have been employed. Such as changing the batting order. Umar Gul could have opened the bowling with Aamer. When a bowler is not doing too well then bowl him from the other end etc. I remember the days when Waqar and the great Wasim were at their peak, Pakistan was the best in the world and cleaning up the tail. Now we are making no(s) 7,8,9,10 & even 11 look like proper batsmen. We need to think outside the box.

  • Muhammad Ali on August 3, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    Depriving pakistan of good playing eleven , by excluding Seniors is not good . People dont enjoy losing so badly , and what about our bowlers effort ? They did so much that pakistan could have been winninng side , God Willing . But its not just experience we need good batters , and Younis and yousaf have the technique and Style + experience . i dont know if they would score runs or not in this series but i am just trying to say truth that they should be in the team . Back young sters and try lot of them and give them exposure to international games and find talented guys and make a group of them as back up .

  • Dr. Ahmed on August 3, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    Finally, sense prevailed. A good sign for Pakistani cricket. Hope, vulture will not play over this undisputed move.

    I wish i could watch cricket matches by turning on volume of my T.V., if PCB can arrange some daring commentators from its side.

    Best Wishes to all who love Pakistani Cricket.

  • asad on August 3, 2010, 12:24 GMT

    I think the recalled of Mohammed Yousuf was the right one,I don't agree for one minute with Mr Abassi's blog.This team is struggling and needs all the help they can get,they've been tried and found to be wanting.Any team who can be dismissed for 190 and 80 or can't score more than 200 shouldn't be playing test cricket.The current mess Pakistan finds itself in is the result of the incompetence of the PCB,for the flip flopping in their selction policy.Any outsider analysing the situation objectively would conclude that the current team,the PCB,and the government that runs the country are simply useless.

  • Baig on August 3, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    I agree with your thoughts. God knows when the lucky day will arrive when we will get rid of Mr.Ijaz butt (the heights of insanity). Other factors i think only MoYo cannot help pakistan to win the game it should be all team effort in addition to it calling Raza hasan (Another debutant but i believe he is good) makes no sense in presense of saeed ajmal. I would like to drop Kamran akmal for next test (which is seems like impossible). i don't care about his batting but the catches he drops usually costs us more than his batting.

    my $0.02

  • Mansoor Ahmed Zia on August 3, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    Kamran, well said. The things which have been taken place are illogical. @ Dr. Masood. u gave example of Great Players like, Gavasker, Sachin, Kepil Dev and Azzrudin but do not forget they are far better batsmen, as they all play for the country not for themselves, like Yousaf, Shoaib Malik, hence picking up Shoaib and recall of Yousaf is never a good idea for Pakistan, Yes they can recall Yasir Hameed in place of Umar akmal and Ajmal in place of Danish,. Kamran and Umar AKmal should have been asked to play their natural game, as their techniques are not to play for Test Matches. Just to play within resource, one should have asked them to play to their natural instinct but it did not happened. One thing more, lets go in past, where pakistan is full of profiled batsmens like Javed Miandad and Saleem but they have showed any exceptional result in England, so why are we hoping that young lad will win over England. We all should wait for longer and trust our young lads, atleast for a year

  • Muhammad Ali on August 3, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    Well i am very happy to see Muhammad Yousaf back , He has done so much performances as a batsman for pakistan that he can never be ruled out of the playing 11 unless their are non cricketing reasons involved . Younis Khan is also n asset of Our cricket team and should be in the playing eleven in tests and ODIs .

    Now to explain things a bit , its not me who wants it to be done nor pakistani poeple , it is their performances for pakistan team , averages of 50 + for both of them that make them compulsory for pakistan team , its not me or u , or anyone who should decide about their inclusion , they simply are body part of the pakistan team becuase anyone is , till anyone keeps scoring over 50 average per match . Even if whole Public of pakistan are against yousuf or younis s inclusion , the truth is , its wrong . If a 35 year old keeps scoring runs he should be part of the team , Although youngsters should always be kept tried and backed but things should not be understood wrongly

  • Munawar Hayat on August 3, 2010, 12:15 GMT

    I believe this is the belated decision of the board. They should have already included the senior players along with young guns in the team while finalizing tour squad. Frankly speaking, the team which was selected for the tests lacking experience and trait of the game. Nevertheless, once they had taken the decision they must have stick to it. We witnessed that the PCB is in the habit of reverting their decisions very frequently. First they have banned the senior players and imposed fines on different players but I believe no one even paid a penny in this regard and are part of the team. Lets hope that this decision now pays off. No doubt Muhammad Yousuf is the best player in the Pakistan cricket but the way he has been included in the side is pitty one. Let's pray for the betterment of the Pakistan Cricket and Almighty restore the prestige of our loving game of Cricket.

  • Raheem Khan on August 3, 2010, 12:14 GMT

    A really well crafted coloumn that states the obvious facts that people sometimes ignore or simply cannot see...

    One thing that I would definitely like is for the players to be trained and told what to say and what not to say in front of the media... They seem to let their mouths run off in directions they should never ever be allowed to go in.... Classic example in Shahid Afridi... Even if he was forced into a corner but that Ijaz "BUFFOON" Butt, he should have had the maturity to stay the course for the good of the team....

    We most certainly need a change at the head of the board and it has only led us from one problem to another...

  • P Subramani on August 3, 2010, 12:11 GMT

    The margin of the loss at Trent Bridge will rankle any well wisher of Pakistan cricket. While both Salman Butt and Waqar Younis had seemed to be against getting Yusuf, the PCB cannot be found fault with for having brought him back . That is because playing in swinging English conditions is not easy for batsmen who have not been brought up to play that kind of bowling. You would definitely require a proven warhorse like Yusuf and maybe Younis both of whom are quality players.So Yusuf's induction should be seen as a temporary measure with him having little else to do other than batting and fielding.I am sure he will do well if he is left alone. he It is this inter-personal thing that seems to be affecting Pakistan's performance. Yusuf was captain not too long ago and he will know that he was not accepted as such by the team.It is reasonable to expect that he will not be too meddlesome.

  • Adnan Khan on August 3, 2010, 12:09 GMT

    I completely agree with you. Bringing in Mohammed Yusuf would not solve anything its a quick fix and lets not forget why he left and how shoaib malik and him where going at each other in Public. He(Mohd Y) is no doubt a great batsman but current times calls for patience’s. It’s a new team with allot of talent and little experience. Let’s not forget Pakistan has not played Test Matches for some time now. Karman and Umar Akmal are both out of form and definitely need to be reminded for their roles and responsibility. We have a another wicket keeper why not try him out ??? Yasir hammed is also there why not give him a chance??? After all with current batting performance there is nothing to lose..

  • sajjad_logic@yahoo.com on August 3, 2010, 12:05 GMT

    Logic??? This is Pakistan that's being discussed. Logic and Pakistan are two words which don't go hand in hand to form a positive sentence.

  • Naqqash on August 3, 2010, 12:01 GMT

    I don't wana sound like a joker, but even my grand mother would have run PCB more better then Ijaz Butt.

  • humayun on August 3, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    right, PCB is directionless! ...

  • Bashir Bilal Cheema on August 3, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    Kamran I totally agree with most of your thoughts as depicted by the article you wrote.kamran might have the potential,which is quite evident from a few really spectacular catches that he manages to grab once only occassionally.Such cherishing moments are only few and far apart and it seems as if he has developed a habit of destroying rather easiest wicket taking chances at immensly critical junctures in test matches.He is not contributing as much with the bat aswell so I believe that it is worth spending time and effort in finding some appropriate replacement for kamran Akmal,as a wicket keeper should be greater in wicket keeping than batting.Younis khan should immediately be made a part of the test squad and his team mates should learn to dispell unwelcoming thoughts about Younis if they are to uphold and achieve the ultimate objective of being among the top,winning test teams.

  • Syed Zeeshan Ahmed on August 3, 2010, 11:59 GMT

    It was really nice to hear that Mohamed Yousuf has been recalled for Second Test. There is no doubt that Current Pakistan Cricket team is so much talented but we should not forget that they are also inexperience. I think they need to polish and it is excellent idea to put high experience M. Yosuf in team to fulfil huge gape in middle order batting of Pakistan. I believe that Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal and Umer Amin would be next Younus, Yoususf and Inzimam but they should play with Younus and Yoususf to become like them for next 2 to 3 years. Kindly post it.

  • Waqas Rao on August 3, 2010, 11:57 GMT

    I do not agree with anything written in the article, because I know and i can bet on this that current Pakistan batting line up is not good including Salman Butt or anyone for that matter well including Yousuf and Younis. Like in the last innings against England our players somehow knew that they cannot chase the target they must have though of just saving there place in team but couldn't score more then 80. Like bowling which is a miracle we think that we will get good batsman just like either India has or other teams have but for last I think 12 years we do not have openers and in this time not even one suggestion or idea has made this happen now its such an old subject that we have stopped discussing it. Anyways every player in our team should be given a target to score hundred in ever 3 matches, i do not question there passion but there application or talent for that matter. I know they will not listen nor will they act our state of cricket affair will remain the same as our country

  • Atif on August 3, 2010, 11:54 GMT

    When you start with a wrong, it is not surprising that the following process is full of twists to correct the wrongs. The fact is that Salman Butt is cozy with a lot of players with questionable past. It is silly to see him blocking players with far more proven credentials. If he had any sense, instead of giving the so-called "powerful" statements, he would take the task of using the best resources to good use. The fact is that Salman butt is more interested in marking his territory by surrounding himself with mediocre players, being a mediocre himself.

    This team was wrongly chosen: the player with the most questionable role in team disunity, Shoaib Malik, was persevered with and the man with no political backing was sacked, and still remains out of contention i.e. Younis Khan.

    Kamran Akmal should have been dropped long ago, and Umer Akmal should have been dropped just to give him a lesson for his antics in Australia.

  • amir cheema on August 3, 2010, 11:53 GMT

    We need to change mangement not the players.Like Sulman had said in his iterviews that no one is born hero give these players six month then we see what is good and what is bad.Kamran need to be stick with ODI, I dont think with that many matches on his back pack and still makes simple mistakes ,He need to learn basic of the keeping His foot work is no where close to be any good keeper.

  • Faisal on August 3, 2010, 11:51 GMT

    These reactive decisions by PCB only deflect the real issues. PCB has mastered this art. The idea is to fire a cricketer or coach to 'address' the heat. I'm not sure how that resolves anything but it sure does play with people's minds. Recall of out of practice Yousuf is unfair with the fans, captain, coach and Yousuf himself.

  • Aamir on August 3, 2010, 11:51 GMT

    I also support inclusion of Yousuf, he is far more reliable batsman than anyone in the current squad! I am also unable to understand, why Abdul Razzaq is not considered for Test Match? He is an excellent resource and can fill up any position in the line up. Both the Akmals have no place in the team unless elder regains form and younger some maturity. They should bring in another talented player who can ball as well- Fawad Alam. Ideal team should be: Salman, Imran, Yasir, Yousuf, Fawad Alam, Razzaq, Zulqarnain, Aamer, Gul, Saeed Ajmal and Asif

  • BCW on August 3, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    As far as I can tell, the problem here is that Yousuf (not to mention Younis) was sacked in the first place. Few other countries would field a team with so few experienced players and expect them to perform. Pakistan clearly need stability in the batting order so at least one of these greats should be recalled, because if Pakistan cop too many more floggings then it may really ruin their confidence and lead to another reactionary purge. Personally, I am also slightly disappointing that Afridi has pulled out of tests. He should have put his head down and toughed it out for longer (with both his batting and his bowling), because he is an exceptional player whose very presence would inspire confidence also. And Pakistan seem to need that confidence in order to play well. Enough of international cricketers thinking they don't need to play tests.

  • zahid on August 3, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOUR POINTS BUT ONE THING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW IN THE WORLD EJAZ BUTT IS BEING ABLE TO KEEP HIS JOB AFTER COMMITING BLUNDER AFTER BLUNDER? HE HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE MOST UNQUALIFIED PCB CHIEF EVER. LETS REMOVE HIM BY TAKING IT TO THE STREET. IF HE STAYS IN POWER FOR A LITTLE LONGER, HE WILL BRING PAK CRICKET TO THE GROUND. WHAT A JOKE HE HAS MADE PAK CRICKET! SALMAN BUTT NEEDS ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD FOR GROOMING BUT HE NEEDS SOME PLAYERS THAT ARE CAPABLE TO BAT IN TEST CRICKET AND I SIMPLY DON'T SEE MOST OF HIS PLAYERS CUTTING IT AT TEST LEVEL. BEST OF LUCK TO THEM IN ENG BUT I DON'T SEE THEM DOING ANY BETTER. PAKISTAN WOULD DO BETTER WITHOUT SHOAIB MALIK(SHOULD BE IN POLITICS NOT PLAYING CRICKET), KAMRAN AKMAL(DROPPING TOO MANY CATCHES SO LETS PULL THE PLUG ON HIM SOONER THAN LATER), UMAR AMIN(HOW MANY CHANCES ARE WE GOING TO GIVE HIM B4 WE REALIZE THAT HE IS NOT THE ONE), AND I AM NOT SURE IF UMAR AKMAL IS ANSWER TO OUR PRAYERS IN TEST CRICKET.

  • SACHIN PAWAR on August 3, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    Yes, I agree but Pakistan team need at lest one Pillar at the middle of inning. It is very talented team and if they got little experience around ,surly their play will be natural automatically. It is fact that Asian teams can won matches on individual capabilities.

  • whubin on August 3, 2010, 11:49 GMT

    i disagree you should call younis cuz he da best and is not really dat gud

  • Atif on August 3, 2010, 11:49 GMT

    Yousef and Yonis both not required in Pakistan side. just need turning wickets in pakistan... iam 1000 percent sure Yousef will be lbw in coming matches without troubling the scores.

  • sohail ahmed on August 3, 2010, 11:48 GMT

    Leaving aside every thing, we should thanks Heavens that Younis has not been recalled, as well. I think Abdur Rehman would have been a better option as he has some experience. Nevertheless, the problem with pak cricketers is mainly psychological; the team players are bereft of basics of the game. The shot selection and the way they play is awful. They are dead-wicket players, that too riding on their luck, on a lucky day. Management does not go for the help of their bowlers guiding them about the weaknesses of opposition batsmen. Field placing is childish. BEFORE EVERY BALL, CAPTAIN HAS TO REMIND CLOSE CATCHERS TO BE ALERT. They are found fumbling. Fuzzy thoughts, misty eyes, trembling muscles and holes in hand are aplenty.

    Yousuf has his own weaknesses, especially on the leg side. If he restrains himself and uses feet better, he can be a mainstay. Malik has baffled me that how come he has not yet learned the swinging and cutting balls.

    Allah! Please help pak cricket.

  • Asif on August 3, 2010, 11:46 GMT

    Trying to blood too many young players at the same time is too much to handle for an already young team. The touring party should've also included either Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal or Misbah as these player not only have experience but also the temprament for test cricket. I agree with my fellow posters when they say Yasir Hameed is worth a chance as does Saeed Ajmal. Take a look at my ideal test team combination, which is a much stronger line up than we currentl have:

    1. Salman Butt* 2. Imran Farhat / Yasir Hameed 3. Yasir Hameed / Faisal Iqbal / Azhar Ali( No. 3 is automatic spot for Younis Khan when available) 4. Mohammed Yousuf 5. & 6. two from Asim Kamal/ Faisal Iqbal / Misbah / Umar Akmal 7. Kamran Akmal / Other Wicket Keeper~ 8. Mohammad Amir 9. Umar Gul / Sohail Tanvir 10. Saeed Ajmal / Kaneria 11. Mohammed Asif

    I would only play one of Umar Akmal or Azhar Ali if Pakistan insist on including a youngster in the playing XI.

  • banday naiem on August 3, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    we all know that pcb does things on its own,without consulting captain and the coaches.but what should pcb do when we have talent like umar amin, azhar ali & kamran akmal.sorry to say these people do not know abc of cricket. i am a die hard fan of pak cricket and i suggest that Y pair should be included as soon as possible

  • Mohsin Ali on August 3, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    Pakistan cricket!!! Can't say anything & Full Stop

  • Faisal Qurashi on August 3, 2010, 11:40 GMT

    When you have apresident like Zardari, you cannot expect anything better. Whole country is in ruins, no accountability, no shame. Selfish and greedy PPP cronies are installed in PCB, who know nothing about cricket or management, let alone wishes of the nation.

  • Feroz Ali Momand on August 3, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    Well, its very hurting pakistan one of the best team is performing like this i would say that they need both Yousif and younis for test cricket.Imran farhat i did see him in a single match that he runs or win any game for pakistan,i don,t know who is giving him a chance in national team, why not Yaser hamed,this i would say miss managment form PCB.

    Thanks

  • Aasif on August 3, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    This is the reason why cricket is not moving on in Pakistan, we are not working towards the game but rather for the position within the PCB. New ppl need to come to the board and have a wider vision for the game and then cricket will move, bring Imran Khan and the game will be different.....

  • Prof.dr.Kahn on August 3, 2010, 11:34 GMT

    Butt should be removed immediately.

  • Imran Khan on August 3, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    Well i agree with your views and knowledge of cricket. We are having problems since we are in cricket. The whole political thing in our cricket is destroying it. We do have good talent but they we we spoil it is much more heavier than our talent. I believe that Waqar is doing very good job as well as our bowling attack. What we need to do is to appoint a batting coach for these young guys. As you can see we have Waqar and along with Aqib as bowling coach. Who will coach these young kids for the batting. I would like to see new wicket keeper instead of Mr. Kami who is just standing behind to destroy all the efforts done by the bowlers. Secondly, we need match winner spin bowler which i don't see any one under our current team. I just hope that there is some day when we can stand and deliver our cricketing talent in test cricket. I don't believe that T20 is the format to be crowned. The only format which is cricket is test cricket and in harsh conditions.

  • Pathan on August 3, 2010, 11:31 GMT

    Logic?? hahahaha.. Logic? Are people still questioning the 'logic' of the PCB? Are people still putting 'logic' and 'PCB' together in the same sentence. Mr Abbasi, what world are you living in?

    There is no logic with Pakistani society let alone the PCB. I wouldnt be surprised if Musharraf and Bush took over team management from Waqar and co in the future in order to instill discipline and patriotism. Thats how logical the logic of the PCB is!

    I only watch Pakistan cricket to have a laugh nowadays. I have gone past the stage of caring like the majority of Pakistanis in Pakistan. Soon the Pakistanis around the world will fail to care and treat the team as a joke to be laughed at and cheered when they happen to win a match by mistake.

  • Tom on August 3, 2010, 11:31 GMT

    I think the PCB has simply realised the folly of his ommission in the first place, logically deducing that someone with an average of 53 over many test matches and experience of playing in England, would greatly strengthen their team. He's only 35 not 40 for goodness sake. Shame they didn't have the bottle to recall Younis Khan too - who is just 32 and also has experience of English conditions and an average of 50.

  • M Uzair Siddiqui on August 3, 2010, 11:30 GMT

    If anyone had a right to be selected for the tour, it should have been before the departure of the sqauad not this way. We know that both Yousuf and Yunus are good enough to be a part of the test team at this level but if the board says at one end that "we have confidance in the new telent" and at the same time it negates its own wording by sending M Yousuf, such a mess is what they create every now and then. May the Almighty have pity on Pakistan we may get rid of such beaurucrates who spoil the whole game at their own make Pakistanis look fool before the world

  • Anwar Khan on August 3, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    Our favourite pastime at work is to select our test XI for the next test and more often than not the three of us end up being disappointed...much like your rant above. Thereafter we decided to select a team putting our Pakistani selectors cap on. And viola Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal made it all the time. Similarly, please stop your rants. Live with Pakistan (the team and country) as is. But then again you live in UK and have confused priorities anyway.

  • Naz on August 3, 2010, 11:28 GMT

    There is no debate or argument the Board and the Govt in power is a joke - people of Pak plz wake up and stop voting for self-interest!

    I think it was always going to be a brave step forward to go for so much youth and inexperience on a tough tour. For me, if Malik and the Akmal brothers' can play in this team then only cricketing reasons should keep out the two Y's. If truly we are to move fwd as a team then it should have been a case of injecting youth into a experienced squad rather than culling the seniors.

    The patient approach of building a team with so much youth will never be tolerated in Pak (or most countries). It would be different if they played lesser opposition and competed but another big defeat would hinder or virtually destroy the career of these young players - as they will be totally discarded as part of the knee-jerk reaction to any big series defeat!

    Yusuf could be totally discarded if he fails in the last 2 Tests..

  • Shahid A on August 3, 2010, 11:28 GMT

    I believe there is only one solution to the debacle known as PCB. Sack the head of PCB Ijaz 'No' Butt and replace with someone capable of taking Pakistan cricket forward. The sooner this is done the less heartache for the supporting public and team Pakistan. Issue here seems to be Mr I. Butt will not leave unless there is a public outcry so I suggest a mass online campaign to support the removal oh PCB head.

  • Dr Khan on August 3, 2010, 11:24 GMT

    Kamran

    You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG. We need experienced players and if you go with merit, Salam got no real gutts to be Captain. His is under performer and could have been ELIMINATED from team but.......:)

    So He should see what he got before making any boastful statements. Cheers Dr Khan

  • ifeelsikdal on August 3, 2010, 11:23 GMT

    The analysis presented in this article is as woeful as the shenanigans of the PCB.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Neither should change be made for the sake of change nor the status quo retained.

    You cannot set aside the fact that in the last six innings, against two different bowling attacks, this team has passed 250 once. They won the Headingley test in spite of their batting. Against the weakest Aussie bowling attack since the 60s they were knocked over by Shane Watson (twice) and Marcus North! Even the worst Pakistan team of 1979 [due to Kerry Packer affair and not the self inflicted madness like this time] to tour England fared better in batting.

    Something has to change, because it can hardly get any worse.

  • Rahim Khan on August 3, 2010, 11:22 GMT

    AOA to All, I don't think that it was logical at all to take a young team with a few illogical seniors like Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal, Youngster need time to learn when they are entered international cricket. They definitely need Experience player to learn from and take pressure off them. The team need Experience of Younis Khan and Yousuf. Younis specially was needed and What have Younis khan done?? can somebody reply that, all the damage to Pakistan cricket is done by Ijaz butt, and inside Players, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal, and his brother. They are still in the team and with no performance they are still in the team. they also needed to give chances to other batsmen sitting in dressing room like Yasir Hameed, reserve wicket keeper. I think recalling Mohammad Yousuf is not a bad decision but they should definitely recall YOUNIS KHAN. He need some respect. He is the criminal with no crime, He is the victim of Pharaoh PCB (Political Crime burro) WE WANT TO SEE YOUNIS PLAYING AGAIN

  • Waqar Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 11:22 GMT

    Again salman butt is trying to revive that group that led to Pakistan's defeat in Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Australia. The group includes players like Akmals, Shoaib Malik and Salman Butt himself. He wants to continue with juniors because they don't oppose players like Malik and Kamran Akmal who are really playing for themselves not for the country.

    How many chances Pakistan should give to players like Umar Amin who donot have any talent at all. Please right on the merit. This Pakistan team without two Y's cannot even win a test match against Bangladesh. So management should groom young players with experienced players.

  • Ali Kazmi on August 3, 2010, 11:20 GMT

    Dear Dr. Abbassi, Yousuf is a brilliant batsman true but true is his latest form. Although he is an inspiration and a hugely experienced veteran, i suppose the team needs Younis Khan more than they need Yousuf. Perhaps the idea of the Australian tour has not been thought about by any of the PCB employees including the players themselves to bring about a man who retired himself after being found unworthy of captaincy by almost all of the then team members. Younis Khan needs to fill in Umar Amin and thats the only change needed, Younis is not only a motivator but also a great optimistic cricketer much to the need of the moment. Paksitan has always been an unpredictable side, i hope that changes to a more consistent side in the near future otherwise the future seems bleek and dark and days when Pakistan will find themselves below the likes of bangladesh and Zimbabwe are virtually close.

  • Waqar Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 11:17 GMT

    Again salman butt is trying to revive that group that led to Pakistan's defeat in Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Australia. The group includes players like Akmals, Shoaib Malik and Salman Butt himself. He wants to continue with juniors because they don't oppose players like Malik and Kamran Akmal who are really playing for themselves not for the country.

    How many chances Pakistan should give to players like Umar Amin who donot have any talent at all. Please right on the merit. This Pakistan team without two Y's cannot even win a test match against Bangladesh. So management should groom young players with experienced players.

  • Waqar Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    Again salman butt is trying to revive that group that led to Pakistan's defeat in Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Australia. The group includes players like Akmals, Shoaib Malik and Salman Butt himself. He wants to continue with juniors because they don't oppose players like Malik and Kamran Akmal who are really playing for themselves not for the country.

    How many chances Pakistan should give to players like Umar Amin who donot have any talent at all. Please right on the merit. This Pakistan team without two Y's cannot even win a test match against Bangladesh. So management should groom young players with experienced players.

  • M. Alam on August 3, 2010, 11:12 GMT

    I agree with you. Abraham Lincoln once said, “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power”. Probably PCB is showing there character now. I am not against Yousuf inclusion, it is just the time and the way they have taken there decision. I wish Pakistan team best of luck.

  • Sam on August 3, 2010, 11:11 GMT

    Hi,

    So what you meant is

    - Captain is Right - Coach is Right - Board was right taking all young players including Akmals! - Bowling selection right - Fielding perfect - Captain field placements right - ......................

    come on Kamran, you cannot just make captains like this. There are some basic skills req for the Job. After few days if Kaneria is taking 10 wickets against a good opposition you will make him captain as well. Mental Strength is very important factor along with common sense. Out of 11 (first test against England)Salman Butt in batting & Aamir in Bowling ( these 2 only can play internation Cricket. Even out of these 2 i am not pretty sure for BUTT for long term.

    What Ijaz Ahmad doing with team? 3 medium Pacers only?

    Regd Sam

  • Waqar Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    It is ok that PCB should consult with touring management. But your support to players like umar amin is totally baseless. He is not looking good to even play first class cricket. How many chances you can give to a player like this a team like Pakistan only plays six to seven test matches in a year and already Umar Amin has played three test matches without any performance, so it is quite right to drop player like this. Another one shoaib malik who is not batting well but still in the side. If PCB has to adopt a policy for punishment then shoaib malik should be the first one to be fired, Salman Butt is opposing Yousuf and Younus because he is trying to create his own group on the side which includes shoaib malik, kamran akmal as well. Thats why he is still in favor of giving akmal more chances inspite of his poor average of around 15 in last twelve months and to go with he has dropped so many chances of the oppostion batsmen.

    We should keep in mind all the facts and then comment on.

  • Ali Imran on August 3, 2010, 11:07 GMT

    Kamran's Articles always bring our attention to focus on the right things on the right way. I have wished that Youngster team should play continuously as it is. Yusuf come back is good shot, because he is a Great Player and great Man. This is his respect board called him to play again for his country. PCB is absolutely playing roll like tinny child's decision. Inzi Bai should be appointed as a Batting Coach for our new Stars. Ali Imran from U.A.E.

  • Bilal Saeed on August 3, 2010, 11:06 GMT

    Many may disagree but i would still have both Yousuf and Younis back in the squad becasue frankly our middle order is as think as a waffer. Most surprisngly or not so much since after all it is PCB, the spotlight shifted away from kamran akmal. That man single handedly have cost us 2 test matches and yet there is no imminent action taken. Butt said that he has 6 centuries under his belt but those were a long time ago and besides he is in the team for his wicketkeeping not batting. If they do in fact rely on his batting then this only confirms their lack of batting quality. I was just thinking how the match would have turned out if he had taken strauss's catch when he was i think still in his early double figures and the chance he missed of morgan when he was on 5. Catches win matches. I pray that something good comes out of this mess inshAllah.

  • ASHRAF on August 3, 2010, 11:05 GMT

    It is the PCB more than anyone else that is making the NATIONAL team a laughing stock. Absolutely no harm or shame in losing few matches while a new and young team is in making. Yasir Hamid needs to play, Omar Akmal should carry drinks for this series and learn how to defend, both physically and mentally. Remember Haroon Rashid!! Board MUST stop insulting the captain and coach. Salman Butt should avoid making big statements and concentrate on his game. Give a nice send off to Kaneria and Malik. Yousuf's coming on board is not going to change anything. Thanks Kamran for a nice write up.

  • Salma on August 3, 2010, 11:02 GMT

    LOGIC? A dropped catch of Imran Farhat by watson gave pakistan a win against Australia which otherwise they were going to lose easily. But now Shoaib group will go on using that for next one year to keep younis, yousef and others out of the team. There is no logic in this batting line and there is no logic in playing Kamran and Shoaib. If salman trys to play Shoaibs politics, then his days are already counted.

  • Nomi on August 3, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    You can analyze all you want. The bottom line is that notion of so-called "talent" as understood and touted by Pakistanis in general and board/journalists in particular has killed Pakistan cricket. There is no replacement for technique in any sport and "all" the batsman in the current crop are sadly devoid of that "talent". All the great sporting nations coach their youngsters with basic fundamentals/technique from day one; they don't let the "budding talent" to deform the sport to its will. So there can be odd victories here and there but those would be attributed more to luck than clinical execution, and those too in the shorter forms of the game. The team is doomed. But still happy dreaming.

  • Farhan Iqtidar on August 3, 2010, 10:57 GMT

    I would have rather preferred reading a recall for Younis than Yousuf. Younis has been playing county for quite some time in similar conditions, which have been causing problems to the current team. Yousuf could have been given a go ahead for a comeback may be at a later point in time, another upcoming tour or series. Unfortunately, our Board lacks commitment and decision making; all decisions are emotionally triggered, which have caused many grievances amongst Pakistani's globally. Yousuf and Younis are the stars of Pakistan and they should not have been left out from day one, however Butt chooses to ignore them, so they should have been ignored all along. This gives a wrong message to the young blood, which unfortunately lacks understanding and maturity required in modern cricket, they lack modern education to absorb such self inflicted management pressures. But we know of Pakistan very well, this might just prove to be right. Yousuf, I wish you a prosperous test ahead.

  • Jamshed Azhar on August 3, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    Agreed. But let’s be REALLY honest ad look at things in a historic perspective. Any successful organisation needs it’s members to have singular focus and strong leadership. We contrarily have almost always had egos and personal likes and dislikes ruling decisions. It’s a massive surprise that someone like Miandad got the runs he did with the constant ‘enemy camp’ on his case. And the list of fallen is long. Even the so-called greats are very biased when they comment on the state of affairs. Then there is the case of the ‘established pros’ who set anchor and then pull strings to remain in till death does them part. Our cricket team reflects the state of Pakistan very well – disorganised, corrupt and impatient with immense potential and barely surviving due to the ‘few good men’.

    The solution: 'does not compute'.

  • Dr. Fayiz Saleem Quresi on August 3, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    Well I feel that if Mohammad Yousaf delvier what he has been has been expected to do then it will definitely boost up the confidence of young players. But our batting line is a failure to such an extent that we dont need one but at least three Yousafs. Even in the test we won from Australia, it was so embarassing to see Pakistani batsmen getting back to pavillion even in the face of winning. Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal and Umar Akmal are not showing their character at all. And apart from Mohammad yousaf's defensive captaincy, Kamran Akmal was the bigger reasong in the defeat of Sydney test. When Mohammad Yousaf was captain, he still was batting well. There is no logic in kicking out seniors like Mohammad Yousaf and Younis Khan. They are not that young and at such ages of 36 and 32 respectively players lose the reflexes more quickly. I dont how will Mohammad Yousaf preform after being out of cricket for about 5 months.

  • MARLO on August 3, 2010, 10:55 GMT

    ITS A DISCUSSION ABOUT BATTING LINE so don't even mention that win against Australia. That win was purely a bowlers win. Umar Amin, Umar Akmal, Shoaib and Kamran Akmal didn't contribute anything in that. Don't use that to keep Ys out of the team.

  • david on August 3, 2010, 10:54 GMT

    hello what young talent r u guys talking about,what credentials do these younsters umar amin and azgar ali have,they dont even have have a decent first class record no doubt Waqar younis was a great bowler,how does that qualify him as a great coach,what class of batsman would u call Ijaz Ahmed the problem with Salmaan bhat is he is selfish,he wants to captain ayounger team as no body will point a finger towards him replace Kamraan akmal but with whom ,there is not even a decent replacement credit should be given to Shahid afridi who inspite of having differences gelled the team toghther by calling all seniors including Shoaib Akhtar and was desperately calling for yousuf and younis there should be no harm in recalling yousuf as well as younis thanks

  • Shahid on August 3, 2010, 10:52 GMT

    cont.. REALITY is obvious. Salman Butt belongs to Shoaib Malik group and was one of them who signed a document against Younis. He will support Shoaib and Akmal brothers even if they don't deserve to be in the test team. Waqar has no other way than to support the ruling group.

    REALITY is, The best Pakistan team will consist of Salman, Azhar Ali, Younis, Yousef, Yaser Hameed, Umar Akmal and Zulqarnain Haider or Naeem as wicketkeeper.

    REALITY is, the currunt batting line is only good for 150 - 200 per innings.

    REALITY & LOGIC is, Kamran akmal is instrumental to addition 170 score for England and thats more than he has scored in last six months.

    REALITY IS, Pakistan team is still sbeing run in personal politics

  • Muneeb Shaukat on August 3, 2010, 10:48 GMT

    Yousuf and Younis should have been in the test squad in the first place.In english conditions,where the ball seams and swings,you definitely need experience at the top of the order and you cannot expect youngsters with no experience of international cricket to go and perform in completely alien conditions and against a hostile bowling attack and enviornment.It would have been far better had Azhar Ali and Umar Amin been tried out on flat tracks in abu dhabi/dubai (in a test series against south africa later this year) rather than on testing english pitches.Moreover,the win against australia came only due to the bowlers and the batsmen underpermed in that match too...

  • ISHFAQ KASHMIRI on August 3, 2010, 10:46 GMT

    REALLY OUR TEAM DISAPOINTED WHOLE OF KASHMIR VALLEY YET AGAIN....KASHMIR IS MAD ABOUT PAKISTAN & PAKISTANI CRICETERS OUR HEROES....SHAHID AFRIDIS DECISION WAS A BLOW TO OUR COUNTLESS LOVE WE HAVE FOR HIM.....I THINK YOUNUS KHAN &FAWAD ALAM SHOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE & I DONT KNOW Y IS FAISAL IQBAL NOT IN DA TEAM.........BEST OF LUCK FOR NEXT 3 TESTS& LOVE U PAKISTAN DEAREST PAKISTAN....

  • gauhar sharih on August 3, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    Watching this young Pak team over the past few weeks has been like being on the scariest of helter skelter rides, with more peaks and troughs (more of the latter) than one could care to remember. There are a few team issues to sort out. I think the openers, including the new captain, are the best available for now. The middle order badly needs some experience, so I think Yusuf will bw invaluable at no 4. Shoaib Malik should bring his experience to no 3, and sort out his differences with MoYo ASAP. Thus positions 1-4 will have a fair amount of experience. Umar Akmal should get another chance at 5, and the promising Azhar Ali will feel less pressure from the older ball at 6. Kamran Akmal can stay at 7, but should be on his final warning to improve his keeping (most importantly) as well as his batting, otherwise Zulquarnain is waiting for the 3rd test. The 3 quicks stay the same, and thank god Kaneria has been changed for Ajmal. In my opinion, Kaneria can't bowl,bat, field or run.

  • F Rasheed on August 3, 2010, 10:41 GMT

    The first issue in Pakistan sports is that we have available intelligent players/persons to do jobs efficiently but the majority lacks justice. E.g., Javed Miandad is the best choice as a batting coach but his lust for money has dented his image. His stance on Faisal Iqbal - his nephew and a very mediocre player - is always positive for Faisal. I believe Aamir Sohail and Inzamam both have the capabilities to do batting coach job efficiently and fairly.

    The second problem is that the bunch of cunning and selfish players have all the time played polictics in the team specially after Imran Khan. Remember Waqar Younis was set a side in 1999 ODI world cup by Wasim Akram and when in 2004's ODI world cup Waqar was captain, Wasim and his tattoos like didnt supported Waqar. Today Akmals and Shoaib malik are doing same act.

    It is not fault of Ijaz Butt, but of person who appointed this idiot. Rashid Latif is the best choice as a chairman (forgive him for the false catch claim in past).

  • Naveed on August 3, 2010, 10:41 GMT

    The former ICC President, David Morgan called PCB's Chairman a ".....". David was not a kid. He must have studied the Chairman in depth in his meeting with him. So if the President of Pakistan has nominated such a "....." thing to run the affairs of PCB then what miracles can we expect of him. Now, wait and see, if another defeat comes to Pak team in the next match, what else our chairman does? Most probably naming Amir the Capt and Asif the Vice Capt.

  • Mahmood Siddique on August 3, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    I think bring back an experienced retired player is an excellent move and am waiting for PCB to bring back Inzimam and Miandad for 3rd and 4th Tests respectively as both have an excellent record and have a better chance of taking catches then Yousuf even in retirement. Due to the excellent performance of the experienced players Malik, Kamran and Kaneria in 1st test we should continue this policy and by the end of the series remove all young players. The world record for the lowest inning total is 26 runs and Pak team should be able to break this record by the last inning in 4th test. Once this senior/ experience concept is established Ijaz butt and his friends like Yawar Saeed and Intikhab can easily continue at PCB for another 10 years.

  • Omar Malik on August 3, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    Kamran to be honest I am disappointed after reading this post. The initial PCB decision not to include Yousuf and Younis was a terrible one and to persist with that stupidity would have been beyond terrible. Its not about the young team being 2 tests old its about their ability. It is plain for all to see that players like Umar Amin and Shoaib Malik cannot be relied on for sustained batting success. One 50 here and one 50 there is not going to cut it if Pakistan is ever to come out of the deep cricketing rut they find themselves in, especially in test matches. You have been advocating the return of these two in previous articles and this post seems to be self contradicting.

    Please don't forget how we wont the leeds test. We were 7 down, it could easily have been a Syndey repeat so poor is our batting lineup. Groom talent when you have something available. Don't throw players with poor technique in the deep end while established players sit out and ask the public to be patient.

  • Abdul Waheed Khan on August 3, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    Your opinion about the pakistan cricket is really good, keeping in mind the decision making has no logic in pakistan in any format. this idiotic decision to send Yousaf will now make trouble for the players on board already. And ignoring person who have the main concern is totally mindless act by PCB chairman. We should put all the losing matches behind, consider when we have all star team and not able to win then what is wrong if the new players don't win at least they will be having some confidence if PCB rely on them. But Mr Idiot is always come with new idea. He is not doing good to the pakistan cricket. Hope that he hit his head with wall or something and his mind start working ......

  • talat on August 3, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    what i think even mohammad yousaf cant do anything alone unless team spport him but we dont have any batsman who can help him in the middle they all do the same mistakes ever time its the same thing happans they dont have any intrest in winning the only importance for them is to be in team just a papularity modeling showbiz i am sorry to say that but that s the reallity

  • Shahid on August 3, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Dear Kamran,

    (1) Is there any logic in playing new boys at positions 3, 4 and 5 while playing against England in England. And what is logic in leaving back fawad Alam with a domestic average of above 50 and selecting Umar Amin with an average of around 40. Why not Naved Yasin with 9 hundreds in the recent domestic season. (2) Is there any logic in persisting with Kamran Akmal who loses every 3rd test match single handedly and that too he's been doing for a long time now. On what grounds?? because he is a better batsman? his average in last six matches is 15 and he has lost 2/6 matches single handedly. (3) Is there any logic in going on with Shoaib Malik when he has not scored a 50 in last 10 outings. Why not play Yaser Hamid. (4) Is there no logic in playing Yousef & Younis when they have averages of 65 and 52 against England in England. Why would you let Shoaib Malik & Kamran Akmal finish their cricket when they still have 4 years as compared to Tandulkar and Dravid.cont..

  • Abdul Hafeez Khan on August 3, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    I agree wholeheartedly with every word which you have written but I as person sadly do not have any panacea to rid Pakistan cricket of the malaise it is currently suffering from. One aspect of the whole sorry episode stands out and that in my view is the shambolic performance of the PCB. When Ijaz Butt's nomination as Chairman PCB was announced I heaved a sigh of relief after the agony which had been meted out to Pakistan cricket by the previous chairmen over along period. I had known this man as my senior at school in Rawalpindi and had a good regard for him and thought that with his cricket background he was going to sort out the mess and take Pakistan to cricketing heights. Alas it was a dream shattered. I am at a loss to understand as to why the authorities concerned cannot see the irreparable damage which is being caused to our cricket and boot out this man and his chronies before they inclict any more damage.

  • Azhar on August 3, 2010, 10:27 GMT

    Why can't be Younis recalled? Yawar saeed is big obstacle for Younis Khan.He was playing county cricket for two months.He would have been better option than Yousuf at the moment.Malik,akmal brothers should be sent home.Then there will not be any problem in the dressing room.They are not capable to play test cricket

  • Mahmood Zaman on August 3, 2010, 10:26 GMT

    This article is as accurate a description of Pakistan cricket board as is possible. Especially the closing sentence. All successful test sides give their new squads time to settle down and perform & not keep tinkering their personnel and tactics after every loss, no matter how humiliating it may be. Besides, the pitch wasn't ideal for batting and away from Trent Bridge the situation would expected to be completely different. I would have fielded the members from the same squad if not exactly the same team to give them a signal that the board is completely behind the lads and have full confidence in them, it would have encouraged the lads to go out and perform on individual and team level and they would take this as a challenge and avenge their defeat. But by calling already retired player and a new spinner, pakistan are doing exactly the opposite of that and it will take all the confidence away from the young side. Pathetic!!

  • Haris Khan on August 3, 2010, 10:24 GMT

    I dont agree with u ..I think u r mistaken Mr.Kamran I Am more passionate fan of cricket.Instead of pointing towards Yousuf u should have written about the woeful performances of Kamran & Malik instead of a man who is averaging 56 in my view great player.Salman Butt and Waqar Younis are unhappy because they r trying to influence the team Azhar Ali and Umar Amin must not be selected in 2nd test and I would Younis Khan of all.

  • Adnan Abid on August 3, 2010, 10:24 GMT

    Whatever the controversy was, the board did not evaluate the trade off between Yousuf/Younis VS Shoaib Malik. Malik stands no where near the class of Ys. He is alleged to have been politicizing things with the help of Akmals. Kamran has never been a good wk. The first thing to be done for the "new era" thing should've been to replace him for good. This will neutralize the younger Akmal too. It is highly recommended and regularly practiced all over the world that new batsmen are groomed in the shadow of experienced ones. So, the recall of Yousuf totally makes sense. About the junior BUTT i.e. salman, he should know that his bowlers won the test match against aussies not the batsmen. The team itself is struggling to score a double century and he is day dreaming that he has got the right men, I think he "wrongly" feels that his captaincy is in danger with the inclusion of any senior. I wish, hope and pray that Salman plays consistently well for the country which he has not been so far.

  • Sunair Saleem on August 3, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    i totally agree with your thoughts (ABBASI) but everyone have a different way of thinking. from my point of view PCB is ruining the talent. that is good that young guns are emerging but young player need experience. and the only way of getting experience is from the senior player like Younis KHAN, M.yousaf......... These two Y'z are the main assist of our cricket. making them sitting out side is foolishness .

  • Sachal Lakhwani on August 3, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    The Pakistan cricket board, is impatient to say the least. How can you first drop Yousaf and Younas and than expect the youngsters to perform in every match. Either bite the bullet, drop the seniors and give the youngster time to play to their potential or keep the seniors. They keep changing their mind every few seconds. Also which team in the world keeps 2 new players at 3 and 4. Umar Akmal or even Kamran Akmal should be at 3, Umar and Shoib and 4 and 5, and then the 2 new chaps, but no Pakistan will save the Akmal brothers (for what ,only God and the PCB can answer that question, not mere mortals like us)....Kamran should be keeping, and there are 2 second thoughts about it, even after the Pieterson catch.

  • usman sheikh on August 3, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    What country will country not to include their best two batsman for a tough series in england when they are not even banned. Where is the logic in that. kamran akmal has proved a billion times that he cant play test cricket but he managed to play over 50 test matches now. Sadly this will be the case with umer akmal who will have a average of 18 after 50 tests and umer amin will have avearge of 14 in 50 test. And dont get me started on shoaib malik. he is utterly useless. Sadly we will continue to ignore our legendary batsman(yousaf and younis). Unfortunately this how we treat our heroes and there is a long list of that. PCB destroyed shoaib akhtar career when he was at peak banning him for no reason. yousaf younis cant play but shoaib malik can who we all know created groups in the team.WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THAT......My blood is boiling so plz kamran abbasi post all my comments. PLZ post all comments and dont be selective and you would know that every one disagree with u...plzzzzzzzzz

  • Tariq Iqbal on August 3, 2010, 10:20 GMT

    Logic and Pakistan cricket don't really go hand in hand. Can't see too much logic in Kamran's piece either! The most important batting positions in a team are the no.3 and no.4 slots. This is the engine of the team. I feel sorry for the two new debutants who have been thrown right into the deep end. This was too much to ask of them and I hope this does not have an adverse impact on their careers. The two Y's are amongst the best middle order players in the world and have a wealth of experience that new players can learn from. Everyone know's the reason why Yousaf retired in the first place, and he made it very clear a few weeks ago that he was available for selection. Kamran and also Waqar are being very disingenuous when they talk about Yousaf being brought out of 'retirement'! Waqar's and Butt's comments have already set the seen for further discontent in the squad. How is Yousaf going to feel coming into a squad where he is not wanted by the coach and captain.

  • usman sheikh on August 3, 2010, 10:14 GMT

    Kamran abbasi has said that best players have been identified to take pakistan forward but wrong players have been identified. Players like umer akmal,umer ameen are not ready for test series.Where is the logic in saying that we should give them more chances at the expense of pakistan losing. " We will lose heavilly, shamefully and disgracefully for the next four years but after that we will be ready". So now new players will treat test cricket as some kind of net practice to develop their patience,technique. WHAT THE HELL...why dont u lot go and play domestic cricket or county cricket to improve ur game. Umer akmal and umer amin are 0nly 19 .GET THESE AMATEURS OUT OF MY TEAM. They havent even played any first class cricket. Look at azhar ali who has played first class cricket and is 25 year old. Looking at their game u can easily tell who has played first class cricket and who hasnt.

  • Kashif Mahmood on August 3, 2010, 10:13 GMT

    A batsmen of mohammed yousuf's callibre should undoubtably be in the starting line up for this weak pakistan team. This team is as fragile as i've ever seen pakistan to be, Theres no versitilaty in this side whats so ever and they're very fragile, Sure undoutably theres much talent amongst the youngsters, But cricket is a game, Theres no point waiting for youngsters to become great and loose 30 test matches in the process to watch something that may not even happen. I rather pakistan stick to a few season experinced pros that strengthen the side, along with a few youngsters.A good Cricket team needs a balance, between youth and experience and right now This pakistan side has no experience what so ever, The middle order of umar amin, azhar ali, and umar akmal have played a total of 15 test matches. Pakistan say theyre bringing in youngsters, Azhar ali is 25 years of age and is averaging 24, amin is averaging 10. wheras Mohammed yousuf averging 53.7, form is temoporary class is forever.

  • javed on August 3, 2010, 10:12 GMT

    I do completely agree with Kamran Bhai. Have no idea why Salman Butt is backing the Akmal Brothers, specially Kamran Akmal all the commentators thought that Kamran is a hopeless wicket keeper and he does not deserve a place in team, looks it is all politics both are from Lahore they threw Sarfraz out as he was from Karachi so was Danish Kaneria. Until we select team on merit we would loose by a larger margin in next test.

  • Javaid Abbasi on August 3, 2010, 10:12 GMT

    Pakistan should just give up playing test cicket; they don't have the backbone or the balls to face good cricket teams of the world.They were correctly termed "Panickstan" from as far back as 40 years ago and to this day they have consistently lived up to that reputation. At 98 for 6, most good cricket teams would have delivered the coup de grace but not our Pakistan Cricket team; they almost never do except rare occasions. Their history is full of these incidents when from a reasonably promising positions they allow themselves to be batted out of the game and thats because they don't have the balls to finish off a game.

  • Ketan Mayecha on August 3, 2010, 10:10 GMT

    For the pakistan board, the best solution to these perpetual embarassments is to pick a team on a single test to test basis - and they should actually fly out with the entire set of contracted cricketers and a few recently retired ones too. It may also help to carry the banned cricketers as well. !! At least the captain and the selector would have the luxury of having 80-100 of them in hand at any moment !!!! Ijaz Butt is always kicking from his tongue - what is required is a solid forlan-type free kick on "HIS BUTT". At least the ifs and buts will stop....

  • sameen on August 3, 2010, 10:08 GMT

    Dear Kamran , Fully agree with your comments . I also find no logic in recalling yousuf as he has not played the cricket for 8-10 months and the last outing against AUS was also not good. He may be a great batsman but all the good things need to come to an end and pakistan cricket should look for future . the things can not go worse than this so why not keep trying with youngster? they may become a super star in few year time . the biggest problem with earlier so called pakistan dependable middle order (inzi, Ys) were that they never allowed any youngster to adjust in the theam. Also i am not sure about the role of Mr. Imran Farhat , apart from being the son in law of one of the selector what else he got.. he is in the team only because of his SUSER.. Look at the senior MR Shoaib MIRZA.. he should be send to india to play IPL , he is not a test player.

  • usman sheikh on August 3, 2010, 10:06 GMT

    For the first time i completely disagree with each and every word of kamran abbasi. It was quite logical to bring back yousaf after such a heavy defeat. What is not logical is that younis hasnt been called in.The reason why salman butt didn't want them two to be in the team is that inclusion of younis, yousaf will threatened his captaincy. A good, brave, honest and successful captain will always choose the best in the country not his personal favourites. Look at imran khan, he twice resigned when he thought that the best players were not picked by the selectors for a series. Captain like Imran Khan stood up for what was right. Look at salman butt, he would choose his buddy shoaib malik but oppose yousaf and younis. WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THAT.

  • zulfiqar ali on August 3, 2010, 10:06 GMT

    Dear Mr Kamran

    What a pitty that you are looking for logic in bringing back yousaf, if fact Mr Aijaz butt does not know somthing called logic,he knows that he has strong links to those who also are not showing any logic in our country to be ruled by them in any case, then what do you expect from those ??? will they think of their team , they are now putting the young captain under tremendious pressure with their orders,to bring ack yousaf to this team.

  • Haseeb Qureshi-Dubai on August 3, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    Waqar & Salamn Butt with the young team should back well by PCB but the thing is, without senior player especially towards batting technique the young side can't perform according to the standards. This is not a street team rather representing a nation needs to perform well which is not possible without two YYs. Pak team struggling with the batting standards after Inzi. Even if needs a small total to win nobody can predict what will happen. Pak team lost matches which were in their pocket only & only because of batting collaps not once but again & again.Shoab Malik is not a right person to include in the squad as he spoiled the winning combination under Younas captaincy propogating among the players against Younas & Yousuf as well because he did not forget he lost his position as captain.

  • Farhan sufyan on August 3, 2010, 10:01 GMT

    I think pak think tank are bunch of fools selecting so many youngsters in team that u hope win against best sides like eng and aus is rubbish. I am not oposing youth selection but there should be balance yo yo are necesary to balance batting line and there should be exclusion of kamram amin danish shoeb. Asim kamal yasir sami misbah abdur rehman ajmal faisal iqbal they all are promising young player that deleiver in past. If pak need all rounder i think razzaq is better option than malik in seaming condition.

  • T.Faruki on August 3, 2010, 9:59 GMT

    MR.ABBASI, REMEMBER TEAM INFIGHTING IN PAK CRICKET IS NORM.WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE IS TO HALT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH A DUMB BATTING LINEUP WHICH IS DEMORLIZING FOR THE FIRED UP BOWLING LINEUP.YUSUF IS NEEDED TO SHOW THESE DUNMS HOW TO BAT, WIN MATCHES AND KEEP BOWLERS FIRED UP.BOARD,CHAIRMAN AND SELECTION HAVE SIMPLY ACCEPTED THAT THEY MADE THE MISTAKE AND IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED INSTANTLY.

  • tawqeer on August 3, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    I believe recall of M Yousuf is a welcome step, you can not keep your only test batsman out. Having said that, I would not like to rush him to play in the next test match. He should play few warm up matches and do some training with the team and spend as much time as possible in the nets and then come with full fitness in the third test match. One wonders to see the guy who surpassed all records in 2006 has played only few tests after that. That is shame for PCB

  • Sadaqat Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    PCB with Mr. Ijaz Butt total bullshit

  • Dr. Syed Erfan Asif on August 3, 2010, 9:52 GMT

    Everything said about Ejaz Butt is true. Not only him, also his buddy Yawer Saeed is equally responsible for this paltry performance. Tell me one thing, why it'a always Pakistan board and officials and media that would like to discard some great batsmen from the side before reaching to their logical end? Why on earth it was important to remove the two Ys and let the main culprit Shoaib Malik be in the side who does not even deserve a place in the playing eleven? Why to lament about the weak batting line, which doctor recommended them to forget the two Ys and one of the strongest middle order batsman Asim kamal. Politics, dear Kamran Abbasi, politics and a genetically induced problem of taking undue advantage of power with in the people in our nation. No matter what position one is sitting, its just showing up the power and ego, be it Nasim Ashrafs, Ijazz Butts (pardon the word), Yawer Saeeds or whosoever.

  • Abdul on August 3, 2010, 9:52 GMT

    Logic??

    C'mon, we're talking about Pakistan here. Logic isn't part of the equation.

  • MOHANKUMAR K on August 3, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    its rediculas, why they are banned from game and why they are recall,

  • zaman on August 3, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    hi,abbasi bhai as salamualikum its totally surprise n shocked decision that salman butt(cap)w.yonus(coach)does not want inclusion yosuf n yonus.they should realoze these talented batsman like azhar ali umar akmal are only guided with such great batsman like yousuf n yonus.if salman thinks they are playing for defeat and loss,let them play for and by the time they learn(???)the most blind supporter will loss their support for pakistan!!!!!why shoib malik is playing.why not asim kamal?why imran farhat playing why not yasir hamed?its shame.pakintan players please understand that you not let down your team mate you let down your country!!!!

  • Iftikhar Ahmed khan on August 3, 2010, 9:50 GMT

    Nice Article Mr Kamran...but logically I think this is the most welcome decision by PCB to send Mr M.YOUSIF to England.He should have been in the team at first place before the tour.But so-good so-for.As for as team is concern Mr Salman's team really needs someone in the middle to guide the likes of Mr UMAR*2(Ameen/Akmal) and Azhar Ali because Mr Salman Butt himself is not lasting the first 10overs of the Inn.Some fatherly figure like Inzamam,Miandad,Zaheer Abbas or Mr Hanif Muhammad should be in the team to give youngster some sort of advice or show them how to play.I still remember in 1980s when Mohsin Khan was struggling in Australia, Miandad came up the order and showed young Mohsin how to handle new ball..we have so many examples.check the numbers when Inzamam was captain we were fighting for No.2 spot with england in 2006.It is easy to forget how Mr.Umar akmal started during Yousif's captaincy last year and he was averaging 50++ in test and how he is playing now..

  • Atif Lodhi on August 3, 2010, 9:49 GMT

    This is Pakistan, where there is no logis required for anything. Might be in your columns there are many things which dont have logics.I am not a fan of Kamran Akmal in Test Cricket but do you people think that this is proper time to replace Kamran Akmal when in last series our Captain say Bye Bye to Pakistani Team in the middle of that series, also you people are having two new batsman for whom people are thinking to get replaced. One of our media says if you people decides about Danish then Kamran should be out as he missed the stump on the bowling of Danish, wow great Logic.I think Pakistani pacers are doing really fine,two areas where Pakistanis need to focus are Batting and fielding. In fielding they have to make strategy where to put fielder against each batsman. How to read the pitch, where to put the wicket keeper and slips (means how far away).If you saw last match then I think most crucial chance was Morgen's catch not carry to the keeper in his innings start then he made100.

  • Shehzad on August 3, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    Well i agree with you Kamran. I personally fell that we should put more efoorts on improving our fielding. If Kamran Akmal took catches in 1st innings England of Trent Bridge test. The condition would be different. At the moment our bowling attack is superb but unfortunately if some one injured now tthen we do not have any replacement. so we should prepare 1 or 2 good fast bowlers for a backup.Well our batsman so far have done good job. But the thing is that the opposition are not going to give you any single chance.if mr. Ijaz Butt remain patient and continue the whole tour with same squad. These young players will get the confidence and also it would be good for us in World Cup 2011.

  • Jibran on August 3, 2010, 9:47 GMT

    I think they need at least ONE experienced batsman to act as the anchor and shepherd the rest of the batting. Salman at the top and Yousuf in the middle can act as two pivots around which the rest of the batsmen must try to build partnerships.

    All in all, its NOT a bad idea to bring in an experienced head.

    The timing & manner of execution for the PCB is Never elegant, so thats really beyond the point.

  • Dr. Haneef on August 3, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Lot of politics in Pak cricket. Corrupt Ejaz Butt???? Nobdy performing except bowlers. Where is Hammad Azam who was supposed to be the part of the team ? He is not there and instead Azhar Ali / Amin is playing. It is for sure that PCB will recall Yousuf and soon will drop him again. Corrupt bunch :)

  • Srinath on August 3, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    Is it possibly the fact that the Pakistani media has less influence on the Selection Board, than the Indian media, on its Board ?

    The Indian team just suffered a defeat, no less humiliating, at the hands of Sri Lanka. Yet, the Board is always fearful of the media backlash, and is therefore, often more circumspect.

    Of course, when the public (and therefore, the media) are baying for the cricketers' blood, as it happened post India's T20 debacle, the selectors did what they thought the media would approve of.

    How far is the Pakistani media able to influence Mr. Butt ?

  • M Zubair - Rawalpindi on August 3, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    Assalaamo Alykum wa rahmat ullahe wabrakatuh PCB is no doubt a laughing stock. Its chief was called Buffoon by Malcom Speed (what a truthful person, in this case , he may be!!)

    Kamran Akmal single-handedly spoilt chances of Pakistan's upper hand on first day. He is not dropped. He missed stumping of Collingwood, a catch of centurion Eoin Morgan and another catch of Captain Strauss. Muhammad Yousuf and Younis Khan were given cold shoulder by PCB, while Shoaib Malik was selected for Asia Cup and Test series against Australia and England.

    Lets hope Pakistan performs better with bat in the coming three tests

    My team

    Yasir Hameed Salman Yousuf younis Azhar Ali Sarfraz/Zulqarnain wk Umar Gul M Aamer M Asif TAnveer Ahmad Azhar Ali

  • jimmy on August 3, 2010, 9:41 GMT

    dear readers is it logical that after bringigin the eglish team in prussure captain salman boot bring to attack taga brand bowler soib malik and unform danish kaneria.is it not gammbling?kick out these thire class cricketers. sham on pak cricket team and on its managment

  • Amyn Khowaja on August 3, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    Well, I think it is better to incourage the young players but it is also important to keep the teams dignity. If we keep losing it is not good for our reputation and also the moral of the young team. It is better to go for a mix of seniors and juniors and I think it is good to bring back Yousuf and Younus both. Not only Yousuf. I am surprise with PCBs attitutude with Younus Khan, I feel like Ijaz Butt has something in person with Younus khan. why he is not looking at performance of Shoaib Malik who don't even deserve to be in 16. But as he has some ministers support so he is in playing 11. To me it is better to also give rest to both Akmals as both are not performing and Yasir hamid should be given chance in place of Shoaib Malik. The best and most important change PCB needs is to remove Mr Ijaz Butt immediately if the cricket in Pakistan is to grow. Otherwise political appointment like of Ijaz Butt can only bring damage to cricket and it can be as worst as what happend to our hockey

  • Harish on August 3, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    This is Butt logic and since it comes from the Butt it must be time for Pakistani cricket to call it a day

  • Ashfaq on August 3, 2010, 9:31 GMT

    It seems that Pakistan finally has a captain who thinks and talks (and plays) sensibly and logically. Now Pakistan needs to find a person with intelligence and logic to run PCB. The recent and current PCB Heads were all disasters. Thanks to Kamran Abbasi for his well written article, as always.

  • ouni on August 3, 2010, 9:29 GMT

    There is a severe lack of leadership in each and every department,so results the management and governance problem and same is the case in PCB.After Australia tour,the management should have fined heavily to all convicted players.They know the team is struggling in batting and you are going to ban both back bones in batting lineup.After losing at Lords,Mr Butt decided to send Yousaf to England but the win in 2nd test against Australia,that goof and ghost person,dropped the idea to sending him.Why? I think PCB should have called up double Ys.Now again Mr Butt has decide the other way.Let me tell you,He will send the other Y as well at some stage.

  • Khalil on August 3, 2010, 9:28 GMT

    I understand that the PCB wanted to turn a new slate and bring in all the youngsters. But to do that on the tour of England where the abll will swing and seam so much. These young kids (Ashar and the Umars') are used to Pakistan's flat pitches, to put them in the firing line in England was crazy in the first place!! Younis and Yousuf should have beein included but weren't because Malik has some powerful friends in Pakistan.

    On that point what does and has Shaoib Malik ever bought to the Pakistan test team? I have never seen him get more than 38!!

    But really I don't see why we are all so suprised. This is the politics that is Pakistan crickets and it will always be this way!!

  • kamran khan on August 3, 2010, 9:25 GMT

    I agree that the board is the one that has no idea about cricket or what is going on with the team. They should stop these knee jerk reactions and concentrate on building the team for the future. Bringing Yousuf back when he has played no cricket is stupid and with Younis already in England I would have called him up as I think he would add stability to the batting line up. I would drop Umar amin and Umar Akmal and bring in Yaseer Hameed and Younis Khan. Furthermore the old saying in cricket is catches win matches and as kamran Akmal proved he cannot wicketkeep, I think it is time for us to give Haider a chance behind the stumps. Back to Mr Ijaz butt all I can say is he thought it was nmore important to be with his family shopping in brent cross London yesterday then to be with the pakistan cricket team where he cold have been trying to work out what was needed by the coaches to improve pakistani cricket.

  • Ali Khalid on August 3, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    It's not about the relations between the players. It's about Pakistan's Cricket. We need our ranking to get better and we can achieve only when we recall our great experienced players such as Mohammad Yousaf, Younis Khan, Abdul Razzak. There is no doubt that all three of them are way better versus our youngsters in reccent team. I am tired of hearing from last couple of months that we are still learning, our team is young and inexperience. If you are professional and you only play cricket, I believe the performance should be there without any excuses.

  • karim on August 3, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    By the same token the post-match comments of the captain and the coach defy logic. Surely an unprepared but vastly experienced yousuf or Younis would have been far better than the current middle order. They may be young but that is no excuse for the timid manner in which they have played. It was the meekest of surrenders.And it is the lack of resolve and fight which is the most depressing aspect of the whole debacle. Imran Khan once said that he would rather have fighters in his team rather than just those who were simply talented and that is what Salman Butt & Waqar need to instil in the players not just the usual excuses that they need time. After all, if Morgan can hits a 100 in his third test then why can't his Pakistani counterpart do likewise?

  • Vinod on August 3, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    time to look into the issue with a wider perspective - which is the need of the hour? the options are 1. saving face or 2. moulding up a team for the forthcoming world cup as well as for the future. bringing the legends (both Ys) back might fix up the option 1.

  • Zoltan on August 3, 2010, 9:23 GMT

    Pakistan cricket team should often tour Australia and England and play the school teams there. If they lose again, they should stop playing cricket at international level.

  • irfan on August 3, 2010, 9:23 GMT

    nice article in context with what's going on in pakistan cricket..I think Younus also deserve a place in the middle order along with Yousaf(condition, he is not short of match practice). Pakistan need to replace Umer amin, Umer akmal and probably Azhar Ali with Younus Khan, Yousaf and yasir.. Also enough of Akmal senior now(nothing in keeping and also woeful in batting), we need to groom new keeper at this stage.. Saeed Ajmal also deserve place in the side with his excellent varieties of offspin bowling..Salman Butt also need to cool down a bit, considering the fact he was too aggressive when Broad usettle him with a sharp bouncer in the first inning.. which reallyd tested Salman's temperament, and in the end he lost his wicket with chasing the ball well outside the off stump.His body language seems also not good when he was inetrviewd in the post match presentation(cool down and think in the context of sport, not take the comments personal).thanks

  • Daniyal Khan on August 3, 2010, 9:23 GMT

    I have to state that youngsters need to be brought in when there are experienced senior players around. Azhar Ali and Umar Amin need a batsman like Younis or Yousaf or any other experienced batsman to guide them in the middle when they have trouble scoring or getting off the mark even. Take any other team - India and Australia - Ricky Ponting and Langer were ever present when newer faces were coming into the test team. Border and Waugh before that. Why don't we have a Clarke or a Raina in our teams?

  • Tahir Rashid on August 3, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Various famous ex players and fans have chastised the PCB for making a mockery of Pakistan cricket but it falls on deaf ears. While Yousuf is being drafted in to the squad why Younis is in oblivion? This proves the fact Ijaz Butt has a personal vendetta against him! Current Pakistan squad barring three seamers is bunch of 'bits and pieces' cricketers. Likes of Akmal bros and Umar Amin must be dropped at once and replaced by others. I strongly feel Kamran Akmal's reign as no. 1 wicketkeeper is over for good. He has cost Pakistan too many games and continues to does so with impunity.

  • Junaid on August 3, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    Something no one is talking about is to recall an extra pace bowler; someone like M. Irfan. This is because our pace bowlers have been doing most of the bowling over the last month and they probably need to be managed esp. Aamir. So, I think PCB should have recalled an extra bowler to help the 3 we are using heavily. I agree that changing batting lineup will not benefit much...

  • mjalamgir on August 3, 2010, 9:17 GMT

    Dear kamran you need only Akmal to be added to your name,such a dismle & bizzare ideas.people learn from their mistakes,like PCB is. The problem of Pakistan cricket not only in team,there are many trigers and provocatios from out side as well. When thre is lack of respect to time tested proven legendry seniors,and you only give weightage to the potential raw talent you will face such results.The respect and discipline should be must.The team should be mixture of experienced players and young talents, not amixture of politics and other wested interests. How can make a pakistan test batting line up witout Younis and Yousaf, if you are sincere not baised or without any special intrests.

  • Osama Ansari on August 3, 2010, 9:17 GMT

    It's a very well-written and balanced article from Kamran Abbasi, and it exposes the PCB's habit of going back on its own decisions.This kind of a shambolic batting performance was always on the cards right from the moment this young team set foot on English soil-it only needed a quality swing bowler like James Anderson and favorable conditions to exploit Team Pakistan's batting frailties.It is quite obvious that Mohammed Yousuf, who has not played competitive cricket for the past six months, will find it tough to hit top-gear right away and he may take time to acclimatise to the conditions. This leads one to question Younis Khan's continued absence from the team, given that he has been playing for Surrey and would have adjusted to the conditions by now.One can only think of non-cricketing reasons for the Mardan-born batsman's continued absence from the national fold!

  • Ali Ahmad Khan on August 3, 2010, 9:17 GMT

    Totally disagree.Yousaf is a great great player.If some body has a problem playing with him.Just get lost from the team.Especially But and Shoaib Malik.

  • Raja Naveed on August 3, 2010, 9:17 GMT

    I totally agree with u on this as well but one can tell me will we continue to disgrace our senior players like we did all the time, we did same with Waqar, Waseem and greate Saeed Anwer a guy who scored 100 in his last match before he has been dumped. Come on guys we need to give respect to Yousuf and Younis, this is not the way to get rid of them. Please Please and Please give them a memorable respectful exit, they are not cricketically impotant players, they are lagends and dont dump them. By the way the win against Australia was win of bowlers not the batsmen or captin so dont get excited after that win we all know how it came. Many of us started dreaming about more wins after that no way we will lose each and every match with this kind of batting. if you wanna bring youngsters in , let them play along side with seniors.

  • Junaid on August 3, 2010, 9:16 GMT

    Something no one is talking about is to recall an extra pace bowler; someone like M. Irfan. This is because our pace bowlers have been doing most of the bowling over the last month and they probably need to be managed esp. Aamir. So, I think PCB should have recalled an extra bowler to help the 3 we are using heavily. I agree that changing batting lineup will not benefit much...

  • Javed on August 3, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Well PCB's Ijazz Butt is just here to satisfy the politicians and so many players deserving couldn't make to the team . Worst thing is that the two Akmal Bros and Shoaib Malik are there in the team who planned defeats for pakistan just for there own dirty mind tricks with Younis Khan probably the most loyal out of the team . Pak nation deserves this as same is happening to them in other areas of life and we just comment and do nothing else . I dont know how can we completely wipe out the dishonest people in the team and in the board and bring loyal players and management but we can't as all these are part of this nation which has the same behaviour . There is enormous talent but i don't know what could bring this into our team unless merit prevails which right now looks impossible with nation sleeping .

  • Muhammad kashif on August 3, 2010, 9:13 GMT

    Replace kamran akmal, umer akmal and umer they are not test player. They are good for T20 not for other formats.And defiantly there is a management problems in PCB which destroy Pak cricket miserably.There is a big restructure needed in PCB if we want to recall old golden days of Pak cricket.

  • australia is king on August 3, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    Same old issues with PCB......Aussies Rule !!!!!

  • rao on August 3, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    kamran akmal dropped many catches in the last 30 test defeats .he dropped the catches not even on the crucila stage but also to the main player of opposition.where he scored 100 or more .nobody debates on danish failure even he cries many time that akmal is the main culprit for danish who can't gloves safly for danish if you are good in remebering tell me any innings where kamran has a safe gloves for danish.the team have to be withys and with out salman ,kamran ,farhat and malik then you can say its the start of new era but not with these low average player who has't proved any thing except the greedness to become a captain.all of these three playes playing for pakistan from nearly 10 years and what are theri aceivements .all of them have average in 30s.and you can calculate the next innings score from their averages.all the playes from n0.1 to no.7 got averages in 30s so total will be 150 and if you add tail enders 50 cant execed more than 220 .

  • Aziz on August 3, 2010, 9:06 GMT

    Perfect Article Kamran ! . That just about summarizes the stupidity that is PCB.... I personaly believe these young guys should have been given more chances.....Come on guyz , the way the ball was moving , i dont think even yousaf would have a chance.... anyhow its about time we should leave the likes of yousaf , younis etc in the past... full stop . Lets move forward....

  • qaysy on August 3, 2010, 9:06 GMT

    but the logic is and was to plan a tour before or between series. how come a player with out appealing his ban and playing any type of cricket in 8 months can be recalled like this. this is the straight insult of the players like amir sajjad n asim kamal working hard in domestics to become a part of the team and what about younis? this man ijazz butt is really a butt should be kicked instantly. Waqar's appointment as coach is paying back to the team and it can be observed by the attitudes of the bowlers, he is definitely building a team and in batting the worrying point is only akmals ans malik not azhar and umer amin, they need exposure and chances. if there is any problem it is only with akmals and malik and they should be replaced, even than there comes no result then re-sort all the issues after the series and pick only those players who perform in domestic whether its senior or new comer.

  • Chetan on August 3, 2010, 9:05 GMT

    As compared to the PCB, the BCCI seems to be a well run organization...that's saying a lot, but pretty much sums the current state of Pak cricket. The lack of a strong captain (along the likes of Ganguly; warts and ll) is killing Pak.

  • Wasim Abbasi on August 3, 2010, 9:04 GMT

    Seriously Pakistan cricket team is crap they were always crap. After 1990 i have never seen them playing as a unit there was always jealousy amon waqar wasim den drug takin money gambling ball tampering etcetc wat not. You call that a cricket team seriously although i am Pakistani but hate to say that we have one of the most courrupted uneducated filthy cricket team. Luk at shoaib akhter wat did he do beat up fellow player, drug test failure and not obeying team rules wat not bloody idiot. Do we hav a batsmentat we can call world class we have shoaib malik the politician, afridi brainless dumb idiot retires in the moring comes back in d evening, yusuf luks lik he s doing a movie first icl, den national team den captain den retire den again comin back wat d fuk and he hardly performs, younus does not bother to play ven his country is in trouble i bet our cricketers will even sell deir mothers if they are well paid dey r such low class idiots.

  • rizwan on August 3, 2010, 9:02 GMT

    Imran Farhat Salman Butt* Younis Khan Muhamad Yousif Fawad Alam Kamra Akmal† Abdul Razaq Mohammad Aamer Umar Gul Saeed Ajmal Mohammad Asif

  • Behroz on August 3, 2010, 9:02 GMT

    well when there was no Yousuf in the side we used to complain and now Yousuf is back we are still complaining not fair just let,s see what happens in second test then we will know how is the decision and i think including Yousuf in the squad is the best thing PCB has done for long time let,s hope it works.

  • qaysy on August 3, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    but the logic is and was to plan a tour before or between series. how come a player with out appealing his ban and playing any type of cricket in 8 months can be recalled like this. this is the straight insult of the players like amir sajjad n asim kamal working hard in domestics to become a part of the team and what about younis? this man ijazz butt is really a butt should be kicked instantly. Waqar's appointment as coach is paying back to the team and it can be observed by the attitudes of the bowlers, he is definitely building a team and in batting the worrying point is only akmals ans malik not azhar and umer amin, they need exposure and chances. if there is any problem it is only with akmals and malik and they should be replaced, even than there comes no result then re-sort all the issues after the series and pick only those players who perform in domestic whether its senior or new comer.

  • usman ali rehman on August 3, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    wel i will say making salman butt as captain shuld be done a year ago, this guy has so immense cricket knowledge and potential, (like the southafrican did with grame smith), but i would say rather taking umar amin, umar akmal, and azhar ali to england, bring some experience (no two Ys), like asim kamal, hasan raza,faisal iqbal, bazid khan, taufeeq umar, abdur razzaq, , and those youngster shuld be given oneday only to perform there and make their way to test match, waqar did really wel with the bowlers and batting is too not bad, but this team should be given motivation, v always want to c our team wining, making 700 runs, and a double century, this doesnt happen too often, but first time in history this team is united and young, and can do extraordinary,...m with Waqar's and Salman's Team.

  • Paul on August 3, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    In the 80s, Allan Border and Bob Simpson built an Australian side with lots of new players, getting rid of the dead wood and ending the back-biting. Imran Khan focused on picking players with character as much as talent, and building a team that played for each other. Pakistan seem to have talent - particularly in the bowling department - but every series sees more dressing room back-biting and inconsistent management. Bringing back a guy who was seen as a disruptive influence can't be a good thing. Give the captain and coach a chance: one defeat is never a crisis.

  • Abdul Wahab on August 3, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    salam to all.. m Abdul Wahab from Punjab university Lahore.m student of pharmacy. well i must say here tht pakistan team will stabilize if they try to get out of this leg-pulling politics and tha chairman ejazz butt. 2ndly pak will not be able to continue their success in test cricket unless they try to understand the true sense of test cricket.!!i like to quote the example ov imran farhat.from the past 10 yrz.this man still dunt knw how to play test cricket.! umar akmal, a potential cricketer but m sure he will destroy his carrer,the way he involves with his elder brother in team politics. he has no sense of test crcket.alwys looking for big shots.whch is madness in test cricket. Finally i must say this is entirely a fooly from coach captain and management to slaughter pak team by playing a young team.there must be a place and repute for grt palyrs like yousuf and younis in this side. none ov the batsman in pakistani side has the sense of responsibility except the legend YOUSUF

  • amer hamid on August 3, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    could not agree more with you and our new captain, surly it is time to forget the past and concentrate on the bright future that can lay ahead if the current squad are given the time and respect that they deserve. Why must we always look like a shamble in front of the whole world . So PLEASE PCB leave the squad alone, you have put faith in them so let them know do their job otherwise there is no point in sending our boys all around the world. COME ON PAKISTAN minus Yousuf prove the PCB wrong, and restore our faith in you

  • saqib qureshi on August 3, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    I totally agree with you Dr Masood Ahmed. There is no logic in selecting youngsters alone...at present they are failing at test level, the young team requires experineced players alongside them to grow. The team needs Yousuf and Younis right now to build confidence.It's not enough to say we have have a young team, poor performances will not enhance Pakistan cricket or these youngsters

  • rao on August 3, 2010, 8:58 GMT

    i tottaly disagreed with your comments in the article .first of all i will start with the captain who is below than average player,he is just fighting for the captaincy.he knows if we recall of these great ys he will not be able to get the captaincy who knows he will not be in the teram as well.the team he is praising was tghe main reason of all recent defeat and it was not the performance of ys who causes the defeat.he is himself low average player who got average in the 30s which is very poor and might be can picked up in kenyan ,zimbabwean or bangldeshi team but not in pakistani team,on one hand you are saying have to back up the new team but who is from the are new salman is playing from last 10 years and up to now hasnt produced any type of performance.he along side with his best mates kamran and malik demage pakistan cricket.they are playing as a very strong gang headed by akmal and malik.if you see all the last defeat pakistan suffer is because of kamran akmal who dropped many

  • Tarique Sayed on August 3, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Please be known that the English Pitches are more conducive to seam and swing bowling,it is unfair to keep out Wahab Riaz as he is a good prospect in English conditions,and also a steady hand when the other reputed ones in the side get tired,it is futile to include spinners,a makeshift will do.

    The Batting will have to improve,and the skipper has to be innovative,with frequent bowling changes,at Trent Bridge when England were 120 for 6,they were allowed to score 260 for 9,it is probably due to lack of an additional seamer in overcast conditions,as Kaneria was rendered toothless it is imperative to go in the remaining tests with additional seamer.

    Regards

    Tarique

  • Nazim on August 3, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    we should kick out the board rather than shuffling the cards.

  • Ali Durrani on August 3, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    It was a misguided strategy to go into this tour without a senior batsman such as Younis or Yousuf. It is unprecedented (apart from when Pakistan first entered test cricket) to go into a test series with such inexperience. Didn't Inzi have the benefit of Miandad when he came on the scene? Our current bowlers have Waqar, a living legend on the sidelines to learn from - who do our batsmen have??? Ijaz Ahmed!!!! Use Younis / Yousuf for the benefit of tomorrow

  • Imran Akbar on August 3, 2010, 8:52 GMT

    I agree to the comments made by Muhammad. I mean Ijaz Butt should enjoy his last days with his family and friends. He is making the country cricket as good as club cricket. Why can't we drop Kamran Akmal, just because of the fact that he is Pakistan Vice Captain? Funny right. A legend like Imran Khan can end someone's career just on discipline then why cant we drop a vice captain from the team? I dont know why we are pursuing with two youngsters (Azhar and Umar) with Yasir Hameed with the squad. Ijaz butt please wake up... this team is a hope for 160 million people. these funny comments (we will make mistakes and learn) from the captain of the team which is always preparing for World cup is piece of crap.....

  • Stromeon on August 3, 2010, 8:52 GMT

    Good article Kamran I can definitely see your point but I think Yousuf is a much better bet to do something good for Pakistan than say Umar Amin (Test avg 10.33)My lineup for the next test providing that Yousuf arrives in time would be: Farhat,Butt,Malik,Yousuf,Ali,U Akmal,K Akmal/Haider,Aamer,Gul,Ajmal, Asif

  • jawad on August 3, 2010, 8:52 GMT

    Good Article. yes Pakistan introduced a new talet and we have to be patient with them. Fair enough. But Azhar Ali has shown some talent by scoring a cruicial 50 against Australia. But Umar Amin? he is a complete let down. in 8 Innings including two t20, He did not manage to impress with the bat. I think its good to Give Azhar Ali a chance with a senior player who stays on the crease with him, from whom he is going to learn more. Secondly Shoaib Malik. Whats his role is in the team? Bowling or Batting? if he is a bowler he hardly bowled and he was as unimpressive as kaneria. If he is a batsman? Than why you are sending him after Kamran Akmal, at number 8. Instead of shoaib you should have given a chance to regular batsman even Yasir Hamid is better than him, or a Bowler Saeed Ajmal. Also who is going to bring out what happened on Australian Tour? Who was the main culprit? no one knows. Mystery.

  • zahid on August 3, 2010, 8:49 GMT

    well it will be same result they bring yousuf or yunus or both becoz they can't win y matches on thier own its should be a team affort to win match and specialy test matches where y have to play five days of good cricket our captain salmab butt is sill not certain on its own place in the site so what can y say about this pakistani team i maen its very sad for me that this board is destroing pakistan cricket by appointing a captain who is still not assure of its own palace in the team

  • Rehan Rouf on August 3, 2010, 8:49 GMT

    Hi, what happened in Trent Bridge was a big loss of pakistan cricket at international level, but in past we have lost in england but after playing out with best players available around but now i am not agreed with Sulman butt logic that this young team must continue further becasue we loose everything if we will continue with this team where no batsman have gone into double figure, we should keep our best 11 players to win a test match for us, at least we will put some better show in ground to keep the series interesting, so, yousaf and younis call is necessary to lift the team, both are experienced players and now must realize that we will play for our country and have good wins together with other young players, controversies must be closed in the team and just go and play for country and in this way maybe international cricket come to pakistan, bottom line is we must progress from now onwards and this will come only after winning some games in england and show some character

  • Moheet on August 3, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    I believe Mohammed Yousuf is a good choice, granted that he has not played first class cricket for some time, he is good enough batsman to overcome the lack of practice. We shall see. Umar Amin and Azhar Ali should be given chances, it appears they have good technique. Experience will polish them up. It would be better if Umar Amin comes after Yousuf, #5 and #4 respectively. Shoaib Malik is not cut out for test cricket. Has some one talked to Kamran Akmal about his gloves? May be they are too big for his hands.

  • Younus on August 3, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    Salam Kamran Abbasi, i am indian but i like pakistan cricket after india and i follow it Sorry to ask you these questions, Y Kamaran Akmal in team, no 50 runs in 10 innings Y Umar Akmal in team when his brother is bigger for him then his own country, Y shoaib in test matches, do these guys do constructive meeting before batch or destructive meeting while and post match, why always figures are raised on one another, Y can’t PCB think out of box and appoint a Australian/England/NZ/SA coach same. What ijaz ahmed is doing as a batching coach, Why pcb is always after players, why player are after PCB, Y cant they speak in the room and come out with the conclusions, too many Y’s, can you show me any one country who does these things even Bangladesh never does it, I cant ask them these Q so you should don’t you think so

  • waterbuffalo on August 3, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    If Salman Butt thinks that that the Pakistan lineup is better without Mohd. Yousuf, there is clearly something wrong with him, he talks about Kamran's 6 centuries, Yousuf has more centuries than the entire line up put together, Inzy and Yousuf were the only reasons we won Test Matches, and Salman chooses to ignore that fact, if he backs Kamran then obviously he cannot be trusted. Kamran cost Pakistan the first Test, that is clear to anybody with two eyes, our number three and four are debutants, Salman himself batted very poorly in both innings, perhaps he is worried about losing the captaincy, it seems to me he would rather Pakistan lose than for Pakistan to put up a good fight. When Salman breaks Viv Richards' record for runs in a calender year, then he can talk, until then he should shut up and learn his place. The only reason Pakistan beat Australia was because Ponting was stupid enough to bat first.

  • bashir Iqbal on August 3, 2010, 8:46 GMT

    kamran akmal had been a performing very very poorly at the highest leve, been given chances but had not come up greatly, Butt mentioned the number of centuries he scored but forgot to realise that those were in his early days of his carreer, he has scored at an average of 15 in the last 10 games or so. its an irony that PCB has been unable to replace the worst wicketkeeper ever in pak history for two-three years now. waqar talking high of Umar amin is also something unrealistic beause he doesn't have a good defensive technique at all to survive at international level. yasir hameed being experienced with much better technique than umar amin had been ignored???? It is quite clear that the team managment is running the team on its whims and there is NO CONCEPT OF PERFORMANCE OR ACCOUNTABILITY( watch kamran's body langauge after droping sitters and missing stumpings).

  • Mudaser on August 3, 2010, 8:45 GMT

    Dear Kamran I have agree with you to some extent. But remember there is no replacement of experience. This team I think need it. 1 Y is better choice to groom youngster. I think this is good decision. Yousaf can adjust himself in these condition but only question is that his fitness and match practice.

  • Greetings on August 3, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    To some extent logic never existed in Pakistan cricket but now even the most obvious things are not understood. Other than a couple of fast bowlers, Pakistan has a bunch of below mediocre players whose survival in the team depends on internal politics. It is amazing how batsmen with such low averages can play so many matches and ultimately become senior players and hence become irreplaceable! Now everyone is blaming young players. Look at the records of Salman Butt, Farhat, Shoib Malik, Kamran Akmal. It is unthinkable that these players could have played so many matches for any other test playing country. It just happens in Pakistan. If selectors are computer literate, I suggest them to dig into the Cricinfo and have a look at the records and compare with other nations.

  • Subash on August 3, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    Bunch of jokers !!

  • Saad Saleem on August 3, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    i am seriously concerned about azhar ali or umar amin. either one of them is likely to be the scapegoat to make space for MoYou. if 3 tests is the best PCB couldve given them then they wouldve been better off without ever playing for Pakistan...... this in and out game is damaging for young players

  • Qamar Zaman on August 3, 2010, 8:35 GMT

    Bring Michael Holding...with a hot iron rod, then all will be fine! Sometime the players don't get the message in english, urdu, hindi, sindhi, punjabi etc. etc. etc.... There is a reason why those 11 were chosen from 11 million.... Give them time, teach them cricet...what a joke!!!! (excuses never made a team great, but a few harsh words up and close about their future will).

  • MJN on August 3, 2010, 8:35 GMT

    Kamaran I dont agree entirely with you. Yes the incompetent board should have given these players a longer run if this was to be the so-called new era of Pakistan test cricket, but the squad should have been blended with some experience especially in the batting in the first place beacuse even with the the two Y's we have struggled in recent times but not by such an embarrasing margin. This is why I think that Ijaz Butt who is the crucx of this problem should either resign or swallow his pride and bring back Younis Khan. These players can help nurture the Amin's, Azhars and Akmal's. I think we should drop Farhat and Malik, bring in a new spinner for kaneria (until he gains his form in county cricket) and bring in the two Y's. As far as Kamran Akamal is concerned I am not sure if we have another keeper/batsman to replace him?

  • faisal malik on August 3, 2010, 8:34 GMT

    I agree that we need to be persistent, but the bug question is this is not the only test match which exposed the shallow batting line, since last three test matches (six innings) we have seen it falling again and again and some DAMAGE CONTROL was a must.

    Yassir Hameed should be bought in but only his change could not fill the gap, we needed some more strength

    rgds

  • Nagesh on August 3, 2010, 8:33 GMT

    Pakistan cricket has always produced great cricketers and equally third class administrators..If players like Yaser Hamid who was exceptional against us in 2004 Indo Pak series, Ashim Kamal who again performed well, can not make it to the Pakistani side instead of people like Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal it is a cause for distress as a cricket fan..I; though an Indian; am a huge Pakistani Cricket fan..They are the most natural players I have seen..I feel that Saeed Ajmal should also be in the team..he has the potential to be the leading wicket taker and he is far far superior to our Harbhajan Singh..In fact he is the best off-spinner in the world now..

  • Jean-Pierre from RSA on August 3, 2010, 8:32 GMT

    I fully agree with the statements made by Younis and S.Butt, it's still young team and they need time to mature and they were thrown in the deep end by playing two of best test cricketing nations at the moment. It would be advisable if they play a team like Bangladesh or WI, that will be bit of a challenge for them and give the coach & captain time to experiment with some players and combinations. PCB also needs to Butt out at times they will forever be a thorn in the Pakistani side, they just have to bear with the team for a couple months or a year.

  • IRSHAD AHMAD on August 3, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    ASSALAMU ALAIKUM BROTHER.. recalling Mohammad Yousuf is a good move by the board . Pakistan team needs experience of THe GREAT MOHAMMAD YOUSUF . as afar as yousuf's fitness is concerned he is fit enough to play any kind of International cricket. "Yousuf has been training and is fit. He has played in local club tournaments as well." Mohsin khan cheif selector told cricinfo. as far as i m conecrned i am really happy to see Mohammad Yousuf back in the team.

  • Farhan on August 3, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    Agree with the analysis. However, I fail to understand why Kaneria is dropped before Kamran Akmal who is a proven disaster. Also can anyone explain Shoaib Malik's position in team other than being a sniveling divisive influence? Is he playing as a batsman?

  • bilal on August 3, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    i read all the comments.so far i reached to a conclusion that,indeed pakistan needs batsman like YOUSF,Younis khan.however the youngster are also performing,but not so fast as Tendulkar did.But pakistan hopes really lie on their shoulders .

  • Tanvir Ahmad on August 3, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    I am sorry that I totally disagree with your analysis. Are we trying to rebuild a team or win a Test Series against England?What will a young inexperienced batting line up learn by being bowled out for 80 in seaming conditions? Umar Akmal performed well in NZ since he had Yousuf at the other end to guide him, surely he and the youngsters would benefit from his presence even though he maybe rusty for the 2nd Test.Form is temporary but class is permanent, Pakistan can't just afford to back the youngsters and end up losing the series 4-0. The bowling attack is world class and needs to be backed by some experience in the batting line up, no two ways about it. Its better for somebody like Amin to build some confidence against SA in UAE and he will get plenty of chances to impress in the future. Yousuf has an average of 62 in England and has scored successive double hundreds against them, it would be foolisih to ignore such a record. There is a case for Younis to return also. Tanvir

  • Amjad Husain on August 3, 2010, 8:28 GMT

    It appears the whole team is not only clueless against swinging ball but every thing about test cricket. How can you have your number 3 batsman who does not know when the ball hits his trousers. And even more sadder his partner telling him to go off and not review. What shambles. You need experience players like Yousuf and Younis in the team.

    As for Salamn Butt , he should stop making silly statements that Asif And Amar are the best in the world. If they were, England would have been blown away when they were 98-6 in the second innings. Instead he bowls Kaneria who gifted a hundred to Prior.

  • farid on August 3, 2010, 8:24 GMT

    continued... don't get me worng, I am in favour of new young blood, but we must place some sanity in our decison making. this way the PCB and the coach/Captain will be aiming to destroy the talent that they have especially if they keep loosing. Umar akmal - well I think he is thinking too much of himself and thinks he is someone that can not be touched-- too big headed, he really needs to look in the mirror and stop to think! Harnessing and nurturing the talent is what is required, unfortunately Waqar and Butt will not be capable of doing this. This dirty politics, bad management and irresponsible play from teh players is hurting Pak cricket and also the fans. trust me, we suffer more as we are the ones stressing here watching a team that has immense potential suffer so much in the hands of few Selfish people.

  • Ninny on August 3, 2010, 8:21 GMT

    Just look around in the other teams and you will notice all test playing teams have mostly experienced players with infusion of just a few new ones. The test cricket should remain sacred with all the experts and experience not just experimenting with total youth. As a Pakistani fan I am disguested to see the unprofessional appraoch of present touring party.

  • Jamshed Azmi on August 3, 2010, 8:20 GMT

    The ironinc thing about the mypoic decision to recall Yousuf is that a large majority of Pakistan fans agree with - atleast till he flops again in the next 3 innings. The case for a separate test team (where perhaps Asif, a speacialist keeper, Danish Kaneria and a blueprint to groom the likes of Azhar Ali) goes further underground. If we stuck to a basic strategy of asking middle order batsmen to target playing (or missing!) 100 balls rather than runs etc we might have some more success. Ludicrous is the thought that Yousuf will bring stability to the middle order. We will have further weakened a not so awesome fielding unit, frustrated the likes of Yasir Hameed (who despite deserving a chance will in all probability not get one), reinforced the cockiness of Imran Farhat that he has a god sent right to play whenever he feels like, and further demoralized an awesome pace attack. Wait till yousuf gets injured - Yousuf and then Afridi in that order will return !

  • Farid on August 3, 2010, 8:19 GMT

    I agree to some extent with your comments. Waqar - great player as he may be - but not an effective coach It is proven that not all Great players make Great coaches!!! Salman - Well his own form is nothing to be gloating about as an experienced player he should have shown more responsibility especially getting out in the last innings to a ball that was not there to be cut - Logic what logic was there. Yes we must be patient with the new team, but surely any team around the world tries to maintain some senior and experienced players around the young ones to nurture them!! Who is there in the pak team? Butt Sahib? Malik? who! I agree that the PCB is a disorganised, illogical and most frustrating organisation with management members that are totally incompetent. Pakistan can not play under pressure, a young in experienced captain like butt had no clue on the field. It was a mere fluke that they won against Aus. that is only because of the bowling. I love Pak & support them always.

  • Nasir on August 3, 2010, 8:14 GMT

    whats happening its suppose to be happend before; what to do this is pakistan cricket.. one thing i want to point out i never heared from any captain & coach like this statement for any good player even ordinary player that "he was in the team then also we were not winning". they can say that this matter not regarding to us its between player & pcb.. but no they have to tell that dont bring him back. what a shame yaar... like this talent you will be same as bangladesh,,, there is also many talent but they dont have playing exprience with best players... good luck to yousif..

  • cricfan from Nepal on August 3, 2010, 8:14 GMT

    Mr Abbasi the points raised against PCB are valid and as all know Mr Butt has to be shown the door first. After such a humiliating defeat in Trent Bridge it was almost impossible to ignore a player of Yousuf's calibre. The mistake was made then when both Ys were banned. To enter in a new era the yougsters should show some promise but the way they have batted so far in England opened the door for Yousuf itself. How a team can exist in test cricket which team failing continuously to post 300+ runs. Therefore I strongly support the recall of Yousuf, after all those youngsters also need some guidance in the middle to gain experience. And if Pak Batters perform in the same way then Younis will be back soon.

  • Azeem Akhtar on August 3, 2010, 8:13 GMT

    What exactly does Shoaib Malik bring to the team? He is a substandard offspinner and batsman. He has been identified as someone causing friction in the team - DROP HIM PERMANENTLY. Also, it beggars belief that people have seen Kaneria as a match winner. He always relieves pressure that the other bowlers have built on the batsmen by bowling long hop after long hop. He invariably ends up with a few wickets for a guzillion runs - DROP HIM PERMANENTLY. Also, you have to question why Yasir Hameed is not included. He is a top class batsman who plays the short ball really well and has some grit. Umar Amin is clearly not ready yet. Muhammad Yousuf will go down in Pakistan history as one of the four greatest batsmen ever (along with Miandad, Inzi and Hanif). He is clearly not captaincy material but he has much to offer as a batsman. If we drop the very useless Malik then Yousuf might not be so unsettled. There is also a case to bring back Younis. Finally, Ijaz Butt must GO. A disgrace.

  • syed on August 3, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    As far as M.Yusuf is concerned it seems to me your point of view more than any 'logic' involve. We should consider fact which says that M.Yusuf is averaging more that 65 in eng conditions. sticking to the inxprience guys with poor batting technique, who have already failed to impress is not what Pak should look for at this stage and yes they should review there keeping options n shoaib's replacement as keneria is already out.

  • Nabeel on August 3, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    The way i see developing a test cricket team is, you should bring young players in ODI and get them used to international cricket & this pressure environment, we are ruining these young guns by playing them all in middle order with no experience whtsoever around, disaster to see to dubutants on the pitch at 3&4 in a TEST match. The best example i get there is an indian team, see suresh raina got his debut after 98 ODIs, he already is an experienced lad and he will fill in the place and one of those OLDIES ( LAXMAN & Dravid) can now depart. we could have Younis, yousuf, Asim kamal, Misbah in our test side and let these young players play ODIs for another yr or 2 & then replace these old fellows one by one No planning, keeping seats on political relations ruined our cricket, it hurts as a Paki cricket lover as though u know that something we cant achieve but still keep on hoping. I still hope that we will get back strongly and will level the test series, with or without yosuf who-cares!!!

  • TD_160 on August 3, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    You're spot on there, Kamran. And I think the last sentence of your article would be the best explanation for the logic behind this rash and unnecessary action from the PCB. It is just another attempt to take the heat off themselves (the administration) by making it look like they are doing something about their teams ongoing woes; but really, we all know that it's just another quick fix. That being said, it can't hurt for the young Pakistan batsmen to have a veteran like Yousuf, whether match-fit or not, around them while on tour. It's amazing that they announced a Test squad for England without either Yousuf or Younis in the first place! Could the PCB really have expected better after selecting such an experienced group of batsmen? As we have seen so far, unless the pace bowlers do something superhuman, they don't stand a chance!

  • usman khan on August 3, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    The win against australia was a one off. We won because of our bowling lineup and our batting lineup did its best to lose the match. Even in the greatest of bowling conditions you cannot a team out for less than a hundred many a times(unless the batting team is pakistan). They need asim kamal, yasir hameed, muhammad yousuf and also someone like taufiq umer. These players are more experienced.Where is the logic in letting 20 year olds debut in harshest of bowling conditions. They are sticking with imran farhat who is the same age group as asim kamal or yasir hammeed or taufiq umer. Imran farhat is not international material. He makes a fifty after 10 innings and get out normally at a score of 20-25. That is happening for the last 7 odd years that he has been playing. He is not international material as he always gets out when he is in. All our batsmen have flawed techniques. So we need experience in some form. We are nation who waste talents like muhammad wasim. what do you expect??

  • Taibur Rahman on August 3, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    Dear Me. Kamran, I know you guys always like to criticise whatever the decision is. Experiment with the young side is fine and of course necessary. However, you must need experienced great players to guide them to grow. Have you seen anyteam playing only with such young guys?

    And 2nd issue is, if better experienced players are kept out like Younus and Yousuf, then what is the point of gaining experience and being a good player. In that case, all the young players will be tempted to be young forever as they will fear that once they are good and experienced, you will be replaced by new ones. If you cant praise and welcome great experienced players, you will never can produce such again.

    I request to bring Younus and Misbah urgently which will definitely bring a balance and can pose challenge to the England. Yousuf alone will not bring significant improvement in performance I think.

  • Noman Aziz on August 3, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    Mr Ijaz needs a serious kick on his 'Sir Name'!

  • Noman on August 3, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    I don't think you were watching the match. If you paid any attention to this match you can not seriously say what you are saying. Put your feelings aside and look at the numbers. Your opinion and thoughts although well respected are not reflecting numbers. This is a numbers game and the numbers were awful. I agree we need to give our younger guys a chance but how about bringing them up with some seniors rather than letting these kids bat 1 down and 2 down and 3 down in such difficult conditions. Was it the PCB who decides the batting line up??? I think if you look at any good team they have a mix of young and experienced players and they have different teams now for 20/20 and test and 1 day. We need guys like younus and yousuf around and they must be in mentoring roles not leadership roles. I think we also need another wicket keeper in test cricket who can be groomed alongside Akmal, how about giving some of those young wicket keepers a chance,oh wait we don't to upset the bro's

  • Noman Aziz on August 3, 2010, 8:07 GMT

    Is Salman Butt related to Ijaz Butt in anyway? just wondering.

  • Taibur Rahman on August 3, 2010, 8:07 GMT

    Dear Me. Kamran, I know you guys always like to criticise whatever the decision is. Experiment with the young side is fine and of course necessary. However, you must need experienced great players to guide them to grow. Have you seen anyteam playing only with such young guys?

    And 2nd issue is, if better experienced players are kept out like Younus and Yousuf, then what is the point of gaining experience and being a good player. In that case, all the young players will be tempted to be young forever as they will fear that once they are good and experienced, you will be replaced by new ones. If you cant praise and welcome great experienced players, you will never can produce such again.

    I request to bring Younus and Misbah urgently which will definitely bring a balance and can pose challenge to the England. Yousuf alone will not bring significant improvement in performance I think.

  • Muazzin on August 3, 2010, 8:05 GMT

    I think there is room for both Younis and Yousuf in a progressive side and given the number of balls are newbies are lasting, Im not so sure how much they are learning. England is a place where you play your best players and youngsters that are ready...Those two at the moment being UMAR AKMAL and FAWAD ALAM.

    Butt, Malik, Younis, Yousuf, Alam, Akmal, (new wicket keeper)

  • Aslam Ali on August 3, 2010, 8:02 GMT

    I don't agree with PCB at the first instance by ignoring Younis Khan and Mohammed Yousuf for the 2 series v/s Australia and England. A bunch of only young players are not going to help the team especially in tests. They need 1 or 2 senior players to guide the young players properly. Look at Indian team where they experimented a complete youngster team in Zimbabwe recently and it failed miserably.

  • rziBDML on August 3, 2010, 7:59 GMT

    who knows what happens when yousaf fails to perform facing the swinging balls, as he always does in such conditions. Will you recall Javed Mindad and Inzmam ul Haq? and what about Saqlain? You juz bothered to call Raza Hassan, even Qadir can do what you want to do with Pakistan Cricket.

  • Roshan on August 3, 2010, 7:59 GMT

    Mr. Kamran, S. Malik was taken to the team just after the ban, did he have enough experience? Even so called Waqar Younus and Ejaz Ahamed both were dropped from the team in connection with bribery. But Yousuf is a clean player, just give him one chance ,he will show you what cricket is.

  • Milan on August 3, 2010, 7:58 GMT

    Very true Sir. If the PCB wants to bring the players for poor performers in batting department then they should send 6 - 7 players because all of them has failed in Trent bridge test. Whats the use of recalling retired batsman? Its just proves that Pakistan has no new good batsmen available. Aussies also were bowled out for 88 in Headingly Test, does ACB has brought Steve Waugh or Hayden or Langer or someone else ? The condition was not entirely good for batting at Trent Bridge. In overcast condition, English seamers has utilized the home condition better. Remember England was also 98/6 in their 2nd innings. Had Pak held their catches the whole scenario would have been diferent. This is new team of Pakistan for future. If you have made a decision of sending youth to England stick to your decision. Dont send other retired batsmen as the whole world now begins to say the decion made by PCB is overturnes overnight. What a shame for the decision makers.

  • Abbas on August 3, 2010, 7:56 GMT

    Hinestly speaking, ur confusing... 1st u call the management dumb 4 not ggetting the 2 Y's and now u blame them 4 bringing them... Look its a good decision though too late but never-the-less atleats he is back... though he myt not b enuf alone... :(

  • Faiz on August 3, 2010, 7:54 GMT

    You can't ignore players like Yousuf and Younus khan .If some one has played enough cricket he will understand young player always learn from his seniors especially in test match . I can bet if Pakistan plays again such swinging wicket again they will all out below 150 or may be 100 because of lack of experience in playing such conditions. When young batsman comes at crease he gets help from his senior player. I am very surprise exclusion of Younus khan who is mentally very strong an played some good innings for Pakistan in difficult conditions.

  • umar on August 3, 2010, 7:51 GMT

    Kamran

    What else did u expect from this board, stop writing the obvious.

    Umar

  • Dr Amin on August 3, 2010, 7:51 GMT

    Well, all I can say is simply that: 1. MoYo and YK should have been reprimanded but kept for tests before these series started 2. Australian tour management are equally to be blamed for the chaos and should also have been reprimanded 3. Afridi should never have been forced to play tests 4. Mr K. Akmal should only be our 'keeper for ODI and T20 5. I am sorry but why is Shoaib so special? (BTW, why he was wearing a blue and not a green cap during the match? pleasing Sania?) - it is beyond belief how one player gets away with reptitive, poor performance is still favoured - why? 6. Agreed Asim Kamal or even Fawad Alam are better choice than Shoaib Malik in this squad 7. Disaapointing that they left Big Irfan behind - even a medicore performance at that height in England is lethal.

    Regards Younis Khan - his omission based on legal issues - all I can say is that he is sacrificing his career to fight PCB corruption - good luck to him - He has my utmost respect. Thanks.

  • Khalid on August 3, 2010, 7:47 GMT

    The problem is that we as fans who spend our money to go to watch them (as I have done at Edgbaston, Headingley and Trent Bridge so far) deserve to see our best players on show.

    Younis Khan should be in the team. The players who do not like him are adults and not immature children - they do not have to be his best friend but they need to be able to play in the same team as him. The same goies for Yousuf (although with him being almost 37 years old the logic behind his re-call is not as strong as with Younis).

  • Ram Narayan on August 3, 2010, 7:45 GMT

    Straight and simpl.. Aus lost a test after being bowled out for 88 in seaming conditions with many young batsmen.. they never brought their house down and created a ruckus asking for an overhaul... patience please..

  • wfaizi on August 3, 2010, 7:43 GMT

    i totally agree with Mr.Muhammad the problem is not the players is no one but Mr.Ijaz Butt,as long as his "khalifa giri" will continue Pakistan will never reach its goal.which is a sad thing to see..

  • Imran Yusuf on August 3, 2010, 7:43 GMT

    Its ironic that we are taliking about LOGIC. Is the selection of the PCB board done in a logical way? Was Ijaz Butt selected as the PCB head in a logical way? Was expulsion of Younis Khan from the team logical? Was the induction of Afridi after literally chewing the ball in front of the whole world logical? And was the selection of Afridi then as the test captain logical? Was the induction of M. Asif after the drugs scandal logical? Is the selection of a man, respected Mr. Butt, with an average of under 32.0 in test matches, with no proven batting geniuses logical? Dear, there isn't anything LOGICAL when you talk about Pakistani cricket.

    Please dont try to get logic out of illogical things. It wont get us anywhere.

  • Sheheryar on August 3, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    I will beg to differ with you on this article. Although this article is linguistically sound and attrative but the logic and argument presented is unconvincing. Apart from PCB, I would also like to notify that it's the loudmouth media which creates more destruction than cementing harmonious relationships. Initially, all the people were lamenting the loss of seniors and now when the board has responded to those criticisms, you people are still not peaceful and pulling out socks everywhere. This is the right decision. If inclusion of youngsters means a new era of shameful defeats and a seldom luck victory, this will surely be unwelcoming. No team in the world would want to put their veteran cricketers aside and try with young blood. Yousuf is a world class maestro respected by batting elites like Sangakkara, Ponting, Hussey and Kallis and he's also got 2 or 3 years of cricket in him. So play him as long as he can. He's a great asset and this is a high time that we respect our heroes!

  • Ray on August 3, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    Mr Abbasi,

    Will we ever find out what happened to Asim Kamal? And when will you stop Yusuf and Kaneria bashing? Kaneria failed because Kamran failed to take chances off his bowling. And he gets dropped, not Kamran - what a way to find scapegoats. Why not try Zulqarnain instead of Kamran - Kamran is good for ODI's and 20/20's, but in no way for test cricket. Yusuf should be there, not Shoaib Malik - just compare the records, technique - there is no match. The management should try and 'manage' Yusuf - they need his batting, not his personality. Same goes for Yunus who deserves a recall. The least said about Farhat, the better.

  • OzKhan on August 3, 2010, 7:34 GMT

    Let's bring in Yousuf and throw Shoaib Mallik out. In the next match, I think it's not a bad idea to invite Younis Khan to the party and kick Yousuf out. For the following match, it is going to be Inzamam who will replace Younis Khan. Pakistan cricket - entertainment for the cricket world.

  • M. A. Siddiqui on August 3, 2010, 7:33 GMT

    Sorry Kamran, you are totally wrong! Instead you should have questioned about the Akmals being in the team, their performance and impact on the outcomes of the match.

    Please think about it.

  • Muhammad saad waqas siddiqi on August 3, 2010, 7:31 GMT

    I can't agree with you Mr. Abbasi! What sets giants of cricket such as Pakistan, India and Australia from minnows of the game is 'experience'; experience cricketers during their careers help inexperienced ones develop in to fine crickets, countries like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe didn't have that privilege.'We have this privilege'. Yousuf and Younis are fine batsmen who can teach a lot to Umar Akmal, Umar amin and the rest.This is called 'PASSING THE TORCH'. If Imran hadn't taught Wasim & Waqar the art of controlled reverse swing and the tactical knowledge that he only possessed, then they would have not been such marvellous bowlers. Similarly, greats batsmen such as Miandad blooded Inzimam, Ijaz and Salim Malik.... Inzimam taught the art of middle order batting to Yousuf and Younis; In fact during Inzimam's reign, i believe we had the strongest middle order in the world!

    They should also play Hameed - Fabulous talent, this lad was, wasted by the PCB like so many.

  • verming on August 3, 2010, 7:30 GMT

    yet when somebody from Australia called the members of PCB buffoon,every Pakistani took it as an insult,even though every action or lack of it strongly suggest that the gentelman from Australia was CORRECT.

  • BOB on August 3, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    Talking about Logic... Granted Yousaf and Younis were and probably are undoubtedly your best test batsmen. Granted the Board panicked (however wrong that might be ):) But what really bewilders me is that why bring in Yousaf?! Younis (I believe) is in England and playing county cricket.. :)

  • Saud on August 3, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    Dear all

    These pakistani batting lineup cant face Afghan pace.

  • zain on August 3, 2010, 7:25 GMT

    Kamran, You pointed out strong points and I totally agree with you, leaving the discussion aside whether team needs Yousaf and Younis, the process followed by PCB is totally humiliating for salman and waqar and represents the decision making process of PCB. Board is run by one man show i.e. IJAZ butt. In my openion, Board chairman should have nothing to do with selection matters. Its not his job. Its the duty of selection committee and he should let them do their job. Unfortunatly no one is paying attention to building up institutions. Every one is trying to run public offices as their personel private companies.

  • AM on August 3, 2010, 7:24 GMT

    I can attest from personal experience that developing leadership skills is not the forte of public officials or organizations in Pakistan, otherwise we would not be in the mess that we find ourselves so frequently. While I've always had nothing but respect for Waqar Younus and have always felt that he was forced to retire prematurely, he is at best a bowlers' coach. Under his captaincy Pakistan was twice shot out for under 60 runs in a test match in 2002 against Australia. What Pakistan desperately needs is a batting coach who can guide the young players to cope with English conditions. There was a time, no matter how dire the situation, at least one or two batsmen would restore some sense of respectability to the Pakistan total in test matches e.g in 1967, Asif Iqbal and Hanif enabled Pakistan with an 8th wicket stand to within 15 runs of England (369). In the 3rd test, Pakistan at 65/8 were rescued by Asif Iqbal and Intekhab to 255 through a then world record 9th wicket partnership.

  • dr salman on August 3, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    i partly disagree with you on this. lets not argue as to who amongst yusuf n younis had the stronger case, but the young talent need a grooming as well, with an experienced guy on the other end or atleast in the team. people give examples of wasim n waqar, when they were new in the side..even they were nurtured by imran..

    n have we brought along zulqarnain haider for sight seeing in england? y is it an essential to bear with kamran akmals lapses in both batting n keeping..see a bowler bowls his heart out, just to c his hardwork being spilled by the keeper in the form of missed stumpings n catches !! its pathetic n really disheartens a bowler.

  • Usama on August 3, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    pakistan cricket board is a serious stage of ugly comedy.. Yousuf is great but not a true team man.. i personally don't wanna see him in the team.. Yasir should get his spot in the taem and asim kamal should be recalled

  • Imran on August 3, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    Another Article by Kamran Abbasi who doesn’t know where he stands with his views…I think its time to come down the fence and take a stand. Do you want the team to continue without the back bone of Yousaf and Younus, or do you want them to learn with the able support and guidance of these two great batmen. Winning and loosing is part of the game but being competitive is what is important, we are competitive bowling but batting we have no back bone to build from – the youngster need to be bleed but with guidance from the two older brother – without them the learning curve is steep – P.S Yousaf never played a test match for over a year and still scored over 100 run in Sri Lankan Test…so you argument him being out of form…is a bit surprising. The GUY IS A GREAT ROLE MODEL AND A LIVING LEGEND ( MAY ALLAH GRANT HIM SUCCESS IN EVERY THING)

  • Yasir Kashani on August 3, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    Kamran, well i read your article.Well there's not a single country who will replace all senior into youngster at once. Example is Australia, if you see their succession plans what they do is to replace one to one rather replacing all senior batsmen into youngest side. When Steven Waugh was underperforming , there were two playes who were playing alongside with Steven Waugh i.e M Clark and D Martin. M Clark was replaced in TEST cricket with Steven Waugh's Place. Similarily they replace M Waugh,his twin Brother, with M Slater, later M Slater was replaced by Hyden who is one of the triple century maker. CURRENTLY if you analyse the potential players in Pakistan, you won't find any one better than yousuf and younis whose average combined 104 Runs per inning(both have an average of more than 50 Runs per inning). only 24 players out of so many players whose average are competitive with both players. After Javed Miandad and Inzimam, Pakistan found two test players who are Younis and Yousif.

  • noor muhammad on August 3, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    For the last eight years we are bearing Mr. kamran akmal as a wicket keeper.He has started thinking of himself as indespensible player,by not performing in the crucial games.we must opt for a new keeper if he can not bat than we must chose a batsman who can bowl also and a bowler who can bat also.Apart from that Mr. ijaz butt should also be removed and a new chairman to be appointed as i think he is too old to think possitively.

  • Miraz Akhtar on August 3, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    Well i am going with Mohammad Yousuf because he have class & quality he will teach the youngster in middle of the pitch, the coach and helping comes when u will out and sitting in the dressing room and reminding your mistakes but if seniors guy batting with u ball by ball he reminds your mistakes.if you don't like yousuf go perform them then u will say i don't needed yousuf because akmal brother are failure in 3 matches uumar amin and imran farhat needed that rest

  • MOHAMMED NAEEM KHAN on August 3, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    Oh Dear, if you look the victory of Pakistan against Australia. It is tense win.. if Australia has more 20-30 runs, no way pakistan can not win even that test. However, look Indian side, tendulkar, laxman, Drivd, they are all 35, 36, 37 playing along with young players. then why not Mohammed Yousaf and Younis. our captain also talking about young side, but they should do something good not like child. they knows very wel that all pakistan watching them and they love cricket. - thanks

  • Suhail on August 3, 2010, 7:15 GMT

    A new team is just a joke. First butt, he himself never remained in good terms with his captains Younis and Yousaf. While chasing 160 odd runs against Srilanka its his foolish shot that started the collapse. He was responsible for crucial run out of Muhammad Yusuf. He was part of the lobby of Akmal brothers and Shoaib Malik which acted against Younas Khan. Now talking about his form, last two matches after captancy his batting has finished under pressure. As a fielder he is far below intenational standards. Performance of Akmal borthers and Shoaib Malik is all times low. How many matches we will sacrifice for a socalled talented Kamran Akmal. There is now new era, its just shift of power from one lobby to another. Actually the issues are with the Board, the day board will start making decisions on merit the thing will set right. When the top man's selection is highly compromised how one can expect tranparency in other issues.

  • dodi on August 3, 2010, 7:15 GMT

    Agreeeeeeed

  • imtiaz hydari on August 3, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is appointed by the bumbling incompetent leadership of Pakistan. why are we expecting PCB under this joker to be anything other than a total failure? if we can accept the shame of the current leadership then we must accept the shame of the PCB Sorry there is no hope until the cricketing affairs of Pakistan are transfered in the hands of those who not only care but have vision, competence and guts to do what is right for Pakistan cricket.

  • nawaz ahmed on August 3, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    Dear Friends, Listen. You have seen India and Pakistan not playing good cricket. I only know one thing and I am 100% right. Somebody should come forward and suggest both India and pakistan to play cricket with each other twice a year. This is the only way both teams can make themselves strong, competitive and fighting. Both will develop a stamina and mental strength. They both should put politics and prestige aside and come forward with open minds to develop this game. When India and Pakistan used to play cricket and hockey with each other, they were the champions and now both are lambs. At that time our sparrows were able to kill eagles because of the fighting spirit they developed and leant from playing under tense conditions. Do you think Zardari and Singh can make this happen for the sake of game.

  • Qaiser Jafri on August 3, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    This is beginning to look like the summer of 1988 for England against the Windies where Marshall ( RIP) ran through them and they ended up changing Captains and players and recalls from the wilderness ! Oh well as one politician once put it, these are the growing pains of a new order...

  • sameen tahir khan on August 3, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    all said and done, i also feel that a more experienced person should come one down. Bringing Azhar Ali, followed by Umar Amin is not a good strategy since both are so new and get out quickly because of the pressure.

    At the rate paki batsmen are playing, shahid afridi could have stayed at least the team would have benefited from his bowling and fielding

  • Uzi on August 3, 2010, 7:12 GMT

    Sadly you are very wrong here Kamran. The batting line up was pathetic, in fact, the tailenders scored more runs than all 7 batsmen in both innings of the 1st test against England. While it was absurd to not have selected Yousef and Younis initially, continuing with this mistake would only have been pigheaded. We need both of them, not only to shore up the batting lineup, but also to guide the youngsters, give them confidence and elevate them to a level where they can perform. Not doing so was just setting up the youngsters to fail. If anything, your article should have focused on why Yousef and Younis were not orignally included in the squad and why Younis is still missing while others with mediocre records like Shoaib Malik are there.

  • asad on August 3, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    What you people (cricinfo) talking about logic? I just want to say that Yousuf and Younus both are great batsman. If they do not play one year, and they make a come back to the team. i will say 100% with surety that they will score more and better than plotics man Shoaib malik, Sulman Butt and Umer amin. What Sulman Butt is talking about Younas and Yousuf. He is kid of Yousuf and Younas. He even dont know how to play test? Is he himself a great batsman? Who says? if i am with Sulman Butt, i will show him the Yousuf and Younas record especially in England pitches individually. Both have a average of almost 70. Sulman Butt if you remember please check about last season 2006 of Yousuf. How many runs he scored. If we had that time Asif and amir. we must won those matches. At that time wo dont have th Asif and Shoaib Akhter. So Sulman and Waqar please and all those other people those are against Younas and Yousuf, please support them. Than

  • Dan on August 3, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    I dont understand team selection for the tests. Kaneria cannot be blamed of not performing and then being droped as any spinner would have performed similar on the pitch conditions. pak cricket should have opted for Razzak on seaming wickets as fourth bowler. I dont understand the logic of him not being part of this squad nad having 2 spinners and 2 spinning allrounders in the squad.He has performed well in T20 matches and bowling conditions last year when Pak won world cup.Younis should have always been in the side but he will have to suck up to Ijaz butt to make that possible.

  • umair aslam on August 3, 2010, 7:01 GMT

    One Yousuf change to strengthen batting after a disastrous chase of 180, 354, and 262 is not illogical Mr. Abbassi. Waqar nd Salman r nt logical wen they dont realize the potential of Azhar,Umer ameen, both akmals (ducks)and an obvious shoaib malik who will never score enough to save salman. 88 runs australian innings did more damage to our team. Another thing is the predictable inconsistency of Aamer and Asif. They r nt good enough to keep any batting side under a total of 450 runs per match every time they allow atleast two batsmen to settle. They need strong backup. Salman shud now bat with the belief that this is my last match, I have to take pressure, score big hundreds myself and i m the only batsman. Imran Khan used to do this. He created pressure on himself to perform and batted well with consistency. He could then ask others why cant they bat. Salman set an example. Your captaincy is 90% your batting.

  • shahrukh on August 3, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    As a Pakistani fan iam disappointed and frustrated, y not YONis and YOUsf were in the touring party at the first test ,not only this but the Australian Tests as well. The new guys you have Umar Amin and Azar Ali are just rookies, they need time to settle . So let them see how players like YOUnis and yousf play.

  • Shabby on August 3, 2010, 6:58 GMT

    I disagree with the approach in article. It is not the matter of losing but its losing in the most shameful way. Last win was a flook because of bowling. The shallowness is there from begining. How much insult you want to go through before learning a lesson. You should groom new players with seniors. Both Y's have proven track record of success and performance. If Y's form is to be questioned who amongst the entire team has performed. If Yousuf has been out but with his talent, skill and command of game he can brush up in 1-2 innings. Look at pathetic performance of Salman Butt himself. Yousuf was surely a poor captain but no one in current team is 1\10th of his skill. Salman Butt should be ashamed of his attitude towards Srs. Look at India Tendulkar, Dravid and Sehwag are still there caz they learnt their lesson with the early hawkish view of dhoni with flock of so called new talent. Its true that in Pakistan's team players like Butt & co lacks morals to respect heros

  • Naeem Qureshi on August 3, 2010, 6:58 GMT

    I would rather say, its a blunderous decision taken by PCB. now once your team is set to take off with immense Talent (and of course pressure too), you need to keep in sight such kind of defeats. To recall Muhammad Yousaf who has not been even in the screen for almost 6 months, who has got no tactics(which were merely tested during Australian tour). Also, Butt was a bit unlucky where decision went wrong even after taking referrals.

  • Hammad Anjum on August 3, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    Variation in written comments by diffrent people is the most visible thing. It shows how much variation we have in pakistan cricket from last couple of years or so... Even, We are unable to calculate the number of captains who have been changed. This is the face of Pakistan cricket which is very easy to understand and to comment as well. We need a strategy but more importantly, strategy needs a platform to sustain and to continue for longer period of time.

  • naqshab on August 3, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    dear all, i also think the same..according to me the pakisatn team should read as follows: salman butt, yaseer hameed, mohammad yusuf, (younis khan or abdul Razzak), umar akmal, kamran akmal, saeed ajmal, mohammad asif, mohammad amir, umar gul,shoaib malik. i mean imran farhat has been given so many opportunities and he has failed time and again..as a batsman at the top of the order if u score one half century every 10 odd innings it speaks of ua capabilities and ua performance. i dont understand why abdul razzak is not a regular member of the pakistan team.he has been a great servant of pakistan cricket and his omission is surely due to some politcs that has always been there in pakistan cricket.

  • Sami on August 3, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    Dear Kamran,

    I dont agree with u. PCB did make a mistake by not including Yousuf or Younis in the squad in first place, as any successful team has a mixture of experience and youth, You can see why the English team is getting better they have right mix, I do agree with you when u say they should stick with youngsters which they are. I dont understand why people are making such a big fuss of one experience player joining the team. Personally i dont think shoaib malik is a test cricketer, They already have Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Umar Amin in one team what else would u like? Umar Akmal is becoming a Shahid Afridi because no one tells him what to do, a few good scores in T20s has made him think he is a superstar. He needs Younis or Yousuf around him to tell him how to play test cricket.These players are in their final years of international cricket so why not use their experience. As a pakistani fan i expected this a long time back atleast younis to be included as he was playing county.

  • Owais on August 3, 2010, 6:53 GMT

    There is no logic when it comes to PCB. There was little logic in Salman Butt's and Waqar's statements as well. No doubt we have lost with Y&Y on the team, however, you always play your BEST players, instead of saying we will play our Second best because we lost when the best players were on the team. There is no logic in callin Yousuf ahead of Younis. There is no logic of having Malik on the team, especially if Younis is out why is he still in ? There is no logic in persisting with the worst wicket keeper for last 4 years - and mind you he is not a good bat either. All his 100's came on flat featherbeds.

    There is no logic at all.

  • aijaz on August 3, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    and why we really need to go with the young team? nobody is removing aamer but who else is performing?

  • Sheikh Danish Mazhar on August 3, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    I would say that in future rather than taking the name of PCB take the name of Ijaz Butt as it is a one man show now.This person is single handedly destroying whatever structure of cricket is left in our country.As far as inclusion of yusuf and younis is concerned,there is still a group in pakistan team who do not want them back in team.As far as performance from this team is concerned,i see a 4-0 whitewash simple as that.

  • Shaikh Azher Yousuf on August 3, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    I am not agree with Waqar and Salman, may they are doing best but I doubt that, because I am not seeing any improvement in Pakistan team. They are the same miserable in field, lambs in batting, lacks discipline, and commitment I think the new comers are ie. Umar Akmal, Umar Amin, Azhar Ali, they are garbage. for instance look at Umar Akmal Umar Amin, First Umar is having no cricketing sense he is just waist of time, we hear from team management that Umar Amin is Jr. Viv Richards it is a hilarious comparison, I think he is having some kind of unfair influence in PCB he is not deserve a place in national squad instead he should play cricket in streets of Pakistan, Pakistan cricket need players like the new Australian leg spinner smith who shows courage,cricketing sense ours new comers are just garbage see Umar Amin play 3 tests 6 innings and he did not score more than 33. I am very much surprised that why Waqar and Butt are reluctant for including Mohammed Yousuf in the squad, prejudice.

  • Maju on August 3, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    I don't think why Pakistan is not recalling Javaid Miandad and Zaheer Abas.... oh! Yes, Hanif Mohammad would be a handy opener as well. Baray (big) Butt sahib is the biggest risk/ threat to Pakistan cricket Let the youngsters lose some matches, face some defeat, handle some pressure and take responsibility. Pakistan will underperform in first few years and then lead the world. PCB is fixing some problem on the cost of moral of young cricketers, who are future of Pakistan cricket. No one is concern about Kamran Akmal. Such a good balling attack is supported by the worst keeper on Pakistan cricket history. Good luck to ‘Young Guns’ (a tank is coming) and Pakistan team ……. Senior player drama is starting again ……

  • Dr. Amir Jafri on August 3, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    We all must remember that our Pakistan Cricket Team, or any other of our national institutions, is only a microcosm of of our hapless nations, Pakistan. Hence the flashes of hope, potential, talent, and occasional streaky success must be seen with the backdrop of endemic chaos, anarchy, hopeless, and the expected cyclical failure. Instead of driving at teamwork oriented results, we long for messianic interventions. Guess what, it ain't gonna happen! We need the spine of a Allan Border, a Steve Waugh, An Illingworth, A Brian Close, even a Collingwood rather than the flashy blades of Afridi, Amins or Yoyos. No Kaiser Wilhems or Churchills or FDRs among us, but a lot of coiffed and cautured Altaf Bhais and Zardaars and Murdaars. The only way out for us is to keep alert and ready for heartbreaks and frustrations, all to be dished out in original and novel ways.

  • zahid on August 3, 2010, 6:40 GMT

    I dont agree at all with all these youngsters in the team at the same time,there should be gradual transition. They are not good enough on their own. I dont have a problem bring them and groom them one or two at a time with senior being there so they can learn from seniors. Look at Australia, INDIA, S, AFRICA, SIRILANKA, They all bring few players at a time. So there is a balance with seniors and yongsters. PAK has gotten rid of all the senoirs Yosuf, Younus , Misbah at the same time. The replacement is not good enough to cope with pressure of Test Cricket. secondly, I wanted to point out that, youngsters need to respect seniors like yousf & younus. They(Y's) perform well and have average over 50. Youngsters can learn from them(Y's)s a lot in test cricket. lastly, why only in pakistan captains not respected after they get rid of them or they loose the series. Look at Inzaman, waqar, Younus, and Yousuf and too some extent Rashid Lateef.

  • zahid on August 3, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    The young captain Salman Butt or any one should show respect and welcome the seniors if they are good enough to play and not get into the divisions/camp/group/politics. It does not help the team cause and Pakistan. PAKISTAN Should play the the best team base on merit not seniors or juniors. LOOK AT AUS, S AFRICA, ENG, AND SIRLANKA. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A DISIPLINE ISSUE, THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESS PROFFESIONALY TO HELP THE TEAM UNITED NOT DIVIDED SO THE TEAM PERFOMS BETTER AND MOVE PAK TEAM FORWARD. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT PAK TEAM MOVE FORWARD FROM NOW ON. PLEASE POST MY COMMENTS.

  • sadiq khoja on August 3, 2010, 6:36 GMT

    What do you mean by poor bowling???

  • Azam on August 3, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    If it was not for Aussies' dramatic collapse in the first innings and the luck favoring salman butt not playing the shot in the second innings that he played in the second innings of the last test, Pakistan would never have won that test and Butt would not have talked so confidently. Except on a few occassions, their batting performance is far from being even close to Bangladesh's. Pakistanis are habituated to succumb to pressure no matter which players form the team. But to give them a better chance, they need experienced players like Yousuf and Younis who are known for playing big innings atleast on batsman friendly pitches. In the present team no player seems to possess the ability to cross even a 50 under pressure even on friendly pitches.

  • NaveedH on August 3, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    A few good thoughts Kamran! Calling an under-prepared Yousuf is as harmful as feeding a bunch of under-cooked youngsters. If chance is to be given, then why not to Yasir Hameed, Faisal Iqbal, Fawad, Hassan Raza and Asim Kamal? Only because they do not play for Lahore / Habib Bank (though Hasan is Captian of HBL and there he has a doctrine of his own there), as once indicated by Mr. Salman Butt. And what about the statements he made about Yousuf the other day? He want to bind the team? or those words will agai create differences? And what about his own performance? He is in form of his life and performing half as compared to the whole career of Yousuf. Believe me! had Pakistan not been broken in 1971, Salman Butt wouldn't had find a place in XI....

  • h.Malik on August 3, 2010, 6:28 GMT

    Dear Kamran , well said , BUT if one follows the PCB for past years and I am sure you are one of those many , THEN WHY SURPRISED ... Inept Boss can have only Inept subbordinates ... Do not worry about Waqar & Salamn brushing of the so called insult , They are not made of any stern material of morality or self respect . You will soon hear them accpeting the inept action of Ijaz as one of their own calling !

  • Asad Amazai on August 3, 2010, 6:26 GMT

    Yasir hameed is in good form and he is technically more sound than Imran Farhat, whom i don't consider a test player. Around the world top teams pick a combination of experienced and young players, not in the case of Pakistan. I would like Yasir Hameed to open with Salman Butt, and then at number 3, Younis should be picked, then Yousaf at number 4, Umer akmal at number 5, and instead of Shoaib Malik (is he capable of Test Cricket?) a youngster like Fawad Alam or Azhar Ali be given a chance. then its the right combination of youth and experience. the other concern is the bowling of umer Gul, with due respect to his performance in the last test this guy is currently not a test level bowler, although its furstrating because of his hugh potential, where every one expect him to pitch the ball up, use his yorkers more often he goes the other way round, of uselessly hitting the deck, i hope he improve, and sami should be given a chance as well because of his speed and experience.

  • furqan on August 3, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    kamran sb.. i wonder how a person of ur caliber only seeing things shallowly, every one has witnessed selections of our team on political motivation rather then best available bunch, so there is no logic in keeping them out there to lose only. we r only lucky to have these bowlers who r saving our face. even if the captain and batsmen happen to be selected on merit it wud be most ill logical to put them direct into test without giving them enough time to play side by side senior players like Yousuf and Younus. its pathetic article written in shameless peoples favor.

  • amin on August 3, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    sorry, my first choice if anybody goes out from the team he must be kamran akmal.he is such a player who is certain out of form.i can not remember that he has shown a match winning performance after the karachi test.more over he should be in the team playing against india.he has not enough capability to play outside the subcontinent condition.he must be kicked out from the team.we can count that how many matches have pakistan won for kamran akmal but it is uncountable mr akmal's match loosing performance.

  • Zameer on August 3, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    To me our biggest problem as always is new ball that's why we require Younas Khan desperately, the reason is if you look at our strongest middle order (i.e Younas, Yousaf and Inzimam) it was in fact Younas presence at one down position, who played new ball for team and by virtue of it rest of the team managed to score with older ball.

    So we like it or not we can not play new ball and one down is the most important position for us for which at the time being we have only Younas available unless we develop some one else which require lot of time

    I do not think with out securing one down position even presence of Yousaf will make any big difference We need some one who can play first 30 overs than our young players can be in position to score

    If you do not cure where the problem is you will fail so its still 4-0 series to me unless bowlers do some miracle to bowled England out for under 100

  • zahid on August 3, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    I dont agree at all with all these youngsters in the team at the same time,there should be gradual transition. They are not good enough on their own. I dont have a problem bring them and groom them one or two at a time with senior being there so they can learn from seniors. Look at Australia, INDIA, S, AFRICA, SIRILANKA, They all bring few players at a time. So there is a balance with seniors and yongsters. PAK has gotten rid of all the senoirs Yosuf, Younus , Misbah at the same time. The replacement is not good enough to cope with pressure of Test Cricket. secondly, I wanted to point out that, youngsters need to respect seniors like yousf & younus. They(Y's) perform well and have average over 50. Youngsters can learn from them(Y's)s a lot in test cricket. lastly, why only in pakistan captains not respected after they get rid of them or they loose the series. Look at Inzaman, waqar, Younus, and Yousuf and too some extent Rashid Lateef.

  • hussain on August 3, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    I do agree that young talents should be given chance for our future cricket but if they play along with senior players, they will not only learn but will built confidence in them.Look at the Indian team, Tendulkar,Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Harbajhan are still playing.The team selected for the tour should have both Ys, should not have selected Afridi for the test and that too as a Captain.Umar Akmal seems to be good for one day cricket and his brother needs to be replaced(on the contrary appointed as v.c).Azhar Ali,Umar Amin has a great potential but Fawad Alam, Yaser Hamid could have been tried.To release Kaneria is also a joke.Although he did not take wicket, he has been always let down by Kamran.Saeed Ajmal or Abdur Razzak would have been given chance.Lastly if Mr. Ijaz Butt is relieved one will see the difference in the PCB's affairs, selection and team's performance.

  • Naseer on August 3, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    Agree that we have a young team, but you should have not bring in a person who is retired and have not played any sort off cricket. this make no sense at all.. What pakistan is lacking right now is a batting coach. Agree that bowling have improved since waqar been there, but he has no experience coaching the technical asspact of batting. I think PCB should approach Jaawed to teach the current player how to bat and correct there approach towords game.

  • Gulab on August 3, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    I respect your article. I am also agree with the support to new team and captain. I have very serious reservation with BUTT and YAWAR. They are the killer of Pakistani cricket. Actually they should be removed and dragged to court. But again if we have some cricket sense then in all teams the senior are only replaced when they produce some better junior. The team is always a combination of seniors and juniors. It is dilema in our cricket that we will have only seniors or completly juniors. But this is my honest opinion that with the present lot it is difficult to even draw a test match. Akmal brothers dont know how to play test even Salman But is not a good batsman. Further Imran Farhat Umer Amin all are rubbish. Look to kamran akmal he dropped staurss at 0 and he made 45. He missed the stump of Collingwood at 241 and that partenrship continue to 331. So 45+90=135. If you reduced 135 from England first innings the score will be 220 which is not score to keep other team in pressure.

  • Omar Hussain on August 3, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    Well said Kamran!We need to back our team all the time!The same team beat Australia and might bounce back to beat England next!We know the England batsmen got away with it because our pace bowlers had to be rested and Kamran Akmal and Kaneria nullified the pressure.Yousaf is underprepared for the Tests and should not be rushed into the side.I am against having him again in fear for disputes within the team.So my plea to our people is support our boys and remember a team needs all the backing it can from the PCB down to the man in the street.Don't be negative.Just give the new men time to settle.One thing is sure Kaneria who has served Pakistan well has had his days.Sadly.We could replace Kamran Akmal as wicketkeeper but keep him as a batsman for we know when he clicks he is a destructive match winner.

  • Kamran on August 3, 2010, 6:16 GMT

    Well I wouldn't agree with you wholly Mr.Abbasi. Yes you could have done away with calling Yousaf back into the squad but not with keeping reckless batsmen like Umer Akmal in the squad.Having said that Umer Akmal still would not be dropped due to the lobby he belongs to and your captain is a part of it. You ask for more time? Come on we are not talking about the promising Azhar and the still very young Umer Amin, we talk about the likes of Butt, Kamran Akmal and Shoaib Malik, what more time do they need, how many more tests Butt needs to pull his average from a disgracing 32 to a splendid 34 (for him only). He's the captain does not mean he is above any accountability. And why does every Pakistani captain defend Kamran Akmal?? and horrendously enough the statements are the same, "Just one bad performance does not mean he is a bad player"...What stupidity, he has cost us many series,, seriously tell me who is Kamran Akmal and which politician is his friend or relative??

  • atiq hong kong on August 3, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    i like mohammad yousaf and younis khan back in team.then youngster learn from them

  • Isaac King on August 3, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    I disagree with you completely. We can't build a strong structure on weak foundations that is the fact of life, same way you can't build a good team on the merely having youngster in it.Pakistan Cricket can't be allowed to go 50 yrs back & start to rebuild like a new test playing nation for sure.

    Merely because a novice player is made to the Captain we can't leave out the experience player so that He feel secure by default. You may heard about commanding respect not demanding it. If He want to be secure then he must perform & lead by example from front.

    In present team there are atleast 2 slots open for the senior player. The middle order needs Younis & Yousuf to bat at 4 & 5 respectively so that Pakistan team have fair chance to score 350 or more.This is need of Pakistani bowling unit for the way past 3 test matches have gone it will be only a miracle that if we don't see Amir,Asif injured.

    Pakistani batsmen need time in middle so that their bowler can have some time to rest.

  • Ahsan Saeed on August 3, 2010, 6:11 GMT

    Come on KAMRAN

    Are you new here. This is Pakistani Cricket. Nothing is logical

    Stop Asking Questions, it is a crime in Pakistan.

    Go back to being a Typical, illogical, emotional, delusional DESI Cricket Fan

    **Smile***

  • Ridhvan on August 3, 2010, 6:09 GMT

    plz plz Pick Yasir Hameed and Ajmal In the Playing 11

  • Ahsan Saeed on August 3, 2010, 6:09 GMT

    Come on Kamran

    Where we born yesterday

    This is Pakistan!!

    Where nothing is Logical.

    Everything and i mean Everything is made of BULL C&&P

    So please go back to being a typical, illogical, confused, Emotional DESI and stop asking questions. In pakistan it is a crime and you could become somebodys personal target

    ****SMILE****

  • Fehzan on August 3, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    It is illogical to call out yusof from retirement,when you could call up younis khan who is ALREADY playing County Cricket RIGHT NOW. He's not only playing cricket,he's in England itself. Time's up for Kamran for me,how many times,am i going to witness HIM,jeopardizing our chances of winning a match? NO MORE. I do not care if he is 'good' at batting,because frankly speaking,although he may be explosive in t20's and limited over cricket,in test cricket he is a failure. He has gloves on and he can't catch the ball? Bring in a young keeper,enough of giving Kamran the push,at least at the level of TEST cricket. I also think It's time to bring Ajmal into the squad now,he's a magical bowler,if akmal,kaneria and the likes of those can be given countless chances, i don't see why Ajmal can't get one in this series? We desperately need a fourth bowler who we can TURN to and rely on in desperate situations to pick up a wicket,kaneria has miserably failed to do that. miserably.

  • Wajahat on August 3, 2010, 6:07 GMT

    If Danish Kaneria is dropped after one poor game, why is Kamran Akmal still in the team. Has he done an insurance of sort which protects him no matter what his performances are?

  • Waqar Malik on August 3, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    assalam-o-alaikum well brother pakistan team needs experiance in the batting department youngsters can only perform when there is someone senior to guide them in difficult playing conditions you are just asking for too much from the kids there confidence will shatter with embarassing defeats and they are going to be demoralised for the rest of there career so calling yousaf and younis together is the need of the time as well as playing yasir hameed and asim kamal which will strengthen our batting and younis and asim still have 3 to four years of cricket left in them so enough time for them to help youngsters become responsible salman butt is been stubborn. when it comes to talent I know alot of boys just in pindi who play in streets and muddy grounds are very talented and are very good fielders but experince playing at the highest level is something different so talent alone cannot win you matches yes it will happen but once in a blue moon

  • Zameer on August 3, 2010, 6:02 GMT

    That decision of big butt is to save himself rather than Pakistan cricket because he is scared that with another worst series loss he might lost his job. So my dear logic have no place here, the is Pakistan cricket....

  • Wasif Minhas on August 3, 2010, 6:01 GMT

    Well, this unnecessary meddling from PCB has taken us 6 months back when we lost all the matches in Australia. Any confidence that this team had developed is certainly washed away, i get a feeling that at some point in this series Ijaz butt and Wasim Bari would themselves be coming in the squad to play the matches.

  • Ashfaq ahmed Khan on August 3, 2010, 6:01 GMT

    Can anyone make me understand, batsmen failed in the Nottingham test, Kamran Akmal was the main culprit, Kaneria axed, as per captain Kamran is a great player, if that so kaneria is even greater.I mean y people like M Yousuf disguise themselves as hard core Muslims and make conspiracy like he did with his retirement drama, just because he didnt want to play under Afridi and now when even younger captain but from Lahore is incharge, he is ready to play. I remember he announced couple of years back that he would never play in Ramzan but now again he has taken another U- turn. Sorry guys the main problem is that Younis Khan is not from Lahore and so as Afridi and kaneria. Some body should have reminded them that Kaneria is the most successful spinner in Pakistan test cricket history (262 wickets) but bad luck again he doesn't belong to Lahore and specially he's not an AKMAL

  • qazi on August 3, 2010, 6:01 GMT

    Waiting anxiously for recall of Inzamam ul Haq. With Ijaz Butt, Nothing is Impossible.......

  • Afnan Ahmed on August 3, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    Well written! If it had to be a recall, it had to be after the tour and Younis, who is currently playing for Essex, should have been a far better choice than Yousaf. No marks for guessing that the fractured relationship between Shoaib and Yousaf will surface during the tour and that is not good for a young side. All said, who expects any logic from our cricket board anyway!

  • Wasif Minhas on August 3, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    Well, this unnecessary meddling from PCB has taken us 6 months back when we lost all the matches in Australia. Any confidence that this team had developed is certainly washed away, i get a feeling that at some point in this series Ijaz butt and Wasim Bari would themselves be coming in the squad to play the matches.

  • syed on August 3, 2010, 5:56 GMT

    Only one nation can produce a person like Ejaz Butt.Only one nation can produce traitors like Kamran Akmal,Shoaib Malik and Rizvi the lawyer of PCB.Only one commentator like Ramiz Raja can continue to protect players like Kamran Akmal.Only one nation can stoop so low and humiliate herself.I wish I was born in Ghana or Bhutan.Ashamed to associate myself with this Board and cricketers.

  • Umer Farooq on August 3, 2010, 5:56 GMT

    I really do NOT agree with this article because the logic is that you CANNOT and you should NOT experiment the entire batting line up.You should always have a mix of experience and youth talent. As well said by Inzamam, it takes a year at least for a player to settle down in the tests playing at the international level.If PCB/Coach/Captain wants to experiment then just experiment with Azhar Ali,Umar Akmal but not from number 3 to number 6.I have a strong feeling now Salman butt is under immense pressure after he's been named as the captain and he needs to be at his best if Pakistan is to win the match.

  • Engineer Khan on August 3, 2010, 5:54 GMT

    Basically you mentioned logic along with other things. But the decision seems to be a reaction and not a matured action from PCB. I think PCB needs to deploy some procedures to strengthen the team mentally and should teach then some professional stuff. Although talent persist in the Pakistan team but its i feel that fear in their minds which let them down against the bigger team in big mathches not their skills. Regards!

  • adnan on August 3, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    In my opinion, defending Shoaib malik and Kamran Akmal is the most illogical thing to be done. If Shoaib Malik n Mojammad Yousaf cant go along then it is shoaib who should be thrown out, but he will not because of being a BIG PRCHI.

  • Zubair on August 3, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    All problems that Pakistan Cricket is facing right now is because of Ijaz But...

  • Aneeb on August 3, 2010, 5:51 GMT

    to be clearly honest, pakistan cricket 10-15 years ago was too good, we were unstoppable, and now, the current olayers for the past 5 years have destroyed pakistan cricket. Pakistan has the talent to defeat any team in the world. But they cant capatilize, that's why pakistan is known as a 'dangerous team' they are hot and cold. But clearly everyone knows this team is the worst pakistan has ever had!

  • Abdullah Sapai on August 3, 2010, 5:51 GMT

    All guys is good we should change the Captaincy also because Afridi have experience on captaincy. and if you look these two test matches with last matches Australia and England so Pakistani teem feel very big fresher for our imagine if we see after Wasim Akaram Afridi have good experience in Captaincy. and secondly we should changing on the teems M.Amin , Azhar Ali , Danish we should change these guys brings the M.Yousif,Afridi, and Abdulrazaq, inshallah i hope Pakistan will win the next test

  • Kashif on August 3, 2010, 5:50 GMT

    More then the issues, whether Younis or Yousuf should be called back, we should look into the ways we lose. Akmal drops catches at will & then suddenly when his place gets questions, he produces amazing performances. Butt suddenly decides to operate with spinners & part timers when he had England 118-6. In the remainder part of the innings, he used not more then 12-15 overs from the fast men including only 3 from Aamir. Even a club captain would have used pacers from both ends to finish off the tail to keep the scores at the lowest. But seems ensuring Pakistan has to chase an unsurmountable score, was the plan. I think this whole nexus of Butt, Akmal & Malik will keep making fools out of us by deciding when they have to try & win & when to try & lose. Unfortunately the lone man who probably had it clean, PCB will not let him play i.e Younis. Shahid the other is already out of the equation. The only way to bring up a clean test team is to dump Akmal & Shoaib forthwith.

  • Khalil on August 3, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    Very simple. There can,t be a logic for illogical happenings & decisions.

  • John Snidere on August 3, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    No one should read or make a comment on cricket info articles . The owners of Cricket info are stupid and prejudice type low class, low life people. I have written 25 comments in the past none was posted by them. There policies are third class. They may have black listed to me for telling the truth when for not bidding on IPL auctions. The whole world will remember that forever and wary of Indian garbage thinking process. Once, I spoke about India disrespected Pakistani world Champion Twent20 and that was the nastiest thing ever happened in the cricket history. Since then these low class people never print or post any of my comments. I am going to open many new aggressive fronts exposing and defaming Cricket info and their stupid policies through magazines and newspapers so people would know what kind of people are these, They do not belong in Cricket world. They are low class miserable prejudice people. There whole staff need to be replaced they are not open minded people.

  • Tahir on August 3, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    Mr Abbasi great article,problem with Pak Cricket is that a joker is running the board and he can not make any right decision,interferes with selection and is arrogant.Why would u select so many young players on seeming pitches, why not have a mix of youth and experience.Why not give some of these youngsters chance against Sth Africa in relatively home like conditions.Kneria plays bad in one test match they send him away, what about Kami who has droped catches on his bowling and other bowlers,he still stays.Yes youth should be given run, look Umar Amin 9 innings so far including 1 days, should ve scored in at least one, what about Akmal brothers.The team is full of youth,Yousuf and Younis will only strengthen them

  • Tahir Mohammad on August 3, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    Logic, commonsense are not the terms one can use for PCB. Every nation in the world will have gradual transformation of player whereas Pakistan cricket go from one direction to other. Pakistani fans want good fight and consistant performance from their team. They don't mind loosing a game as long as team do down fighting.

  • landl47 on August 3, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    The other point which you don't mention is what happens if, as is quite likely, Mohammad Yousuf fails? Then the morale of the Pakistan team is going to drop through the floor. The board has shown no confidence in the captain, coach and young players and if the experienced player also fails they have nowhere left to turn. What do they do then, bring back Inzamam? It's a decision made without any thought to the future and while the team is being run like this there's little hope of improvement in Pakistan's test side.

  • Arsalan on August 3, 2010, 5:39 GMT

    I am not sure If entirely agree with you. The youngsters need couple of individuals who are far more experienced and able to create a balance in the team. It is a good decision to bring Yousuf back in the squad, however he should have never been banned in the first place. Hopefully they bring Younis into the test squad too.

    Umar Akmal, although a great prospect with a good technique, should only be playing ODIs and T20s for now. Remember Suraish Raina made his Test Debut just last week after playing 98 ODIs.

  • Jawad Babar on August 3, 2010, 5:30 GMT

    Well I totally agree with you that PCB is a total mess, failure and unprofessionalism at it's peak, I totally disagree with you why 2 of Pakistan's most prolific run scorers should be out of the team. Doesn't make any sense to me, especially with the current batting line up as pathetic as it is. I mean you are playing Aussie and English sides with debutants at crunch positions of No. 3 and 4 and expecting to win. Come on. You have to give your opposition some respect. The only victory against Aussies came totally due to our fast bowlers efforts. Our batsmen tried their best to choke the test match after Aussies were bundled out on merely 88 in less than a day. Please bring both Younus and Yousuf back and let the "young guns" benefit from their presence and experience. Let the country benefit from their talent. Shame on you PCB!!

  • Toptha on August 3, 2010, 2:22 GMT

    I disagree with the rationale presented here. The selection of best cricket players is questionable. Based on performance it is obvious, that the current Pakistan team touring England is the weakest batting line-up possibly since '78 team. Infact the Pakistan team that toured in '78 had more backbone in their batting line-up - Sadiq and Mohsin knew how to play against swing and seam bowling and were innings maker despite loosing 2-0 against England. #3 and #4 in current team probably don't belong in any test side, and their lack of technique, skills, and confidence against swing bowling has been exposed. Australian side was a weak bowling side, and even against that side we almost lost in Leeds with a procession of batsmen getting out. Waqar is a bowling coach, and current lack of batting leadership and mentoring is a hole in the Pakistan team. Agree, however, that getting Younis back first would have been better, but there is no justification of eliminating your top two batsmen.

  • James Jacobian on August 3, 2010, 1:32 GMT

    Nurture new talents under Yousuf and Younus, don't let them play alone and they will be distracted by opposition tactics. We don't say bring Akthar to guide Amir who is performing well, instead we say bring the experts on the field where batting is very weak. Coach can only help inside but Yousuf and Younis can help Azhar, Umar Akmal and Amin from inside face to face.

    Kamran bhai, am too furstrated but lets do the fix now than a major bing bang installation which may again derail. I support PCB for 1. Appointed Afridi as Captain later Butt for Test 2. Brining Azhar Ali, Umar Akmal, Amer to the National Side, 3. Now bringing Yosuf but I don;t support PCB for everythingelse including Younis/Asim Kamal exclusion, etc.

  • lordy on August 3, 2010, 1:20 GMT

    Spot on Abbasi - I will not say Kamran because my pressure mounts when I see him behind the stumps, I feel sorry for Waqar who I think is doing a fantastic job with the young team inspite of the self destruct attitude of the mad cricket board. Butt is young and thought that beating the ozies made them the best team around, he learnt fast enough and he should now learn to control his speech or maybe talk to himself like he does when batting and not shoot off his mouth too early to the press.

  • Sami on August 3, 2010, 1:09 GMT

    Azhar Ali, Umar Amin, Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik with first class averages of low 30s to 40s are definitely not the best talent available in the country. Please explain to why Umar Amin with a first class average of merely 39 and continuous failure in last 3 test matches is being given more chances where fawad alam, with a first class average of 56 and much more talented than any of the above mentioned was drop after 2 test matches. Even when he scored a half century against australia in the last ODI on the fastest Perth pitch. Waqar Younis and people like you relentlessly justify keeping mediocre players from punjab in the team because they are punjabi. Otherwise, there are a lot more talented players in the rest of the country. God save our country from Punjabis..

  • Ali Karim Bey on August 3, 2010, 0:18 GMT

    Pakistan Zindabad. The great players are: Malik, Yousuf, and Younus. No doubt in anyone's mind.

    But, what is going on? Is this Drama Team necessary? It looks like a Cricket Daytime Soap TV Show. Or, is it a reality show of a national cricket team? Either way, it makes no sense.

    - AKB

  • Asif on August 3, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    We can all cry until the cows come home because nothing will change. The PCB is a circus full of egotistic morons, self centered, who do not fear for anything because they are all politically appointed and motivated by greed. Who will question them for accountability and performance ? The same can be directed at the very people who have placed them with political support. To make a scapegoat of Kaneria is an absolute disgrace.

    We can all see the team needs desperate batting coaching and mental development of players. Waqar is a fantastic bowling coach but needs help in the batting and fielding elements. Sadly Ijaz Ahmed alone is not the answer. Development of players is a national objective requiring planning and investement. This should cascade from the very top with vision and positive statements. Unfortunatley bringing back Yousuf is not the answer or forward thinking. Just watch the dressing room fun and games if he comes back!

    Use Yasser Hameed , get Malik to bat at no 3.

  • fahim jalali on August 2, 2010, 21:12 GMT

    another pathetic and spineless performance from 8 men. i say 8 because the 2w's and gul are pretty much carrying the other 8 with ball and now bat even ! batters have no technique, no patience and no shame. not 1 did i see play for pakistan but purely for headlines. all show off's if you ask me as they would rather be flashy 20 merchants then a grafted 70. 2 akmals need be dropped and farhat too. amin and azhar i might stick with for a few. kaneira gone is good as no patience again to nag at the batters-again too flashy with his variations. farhat ? gimme break - and him ! ijaz butt ? well if there was a bigger joker (in every sense) i would like to meet him !

  • Faisal Jaan on August 2, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    PCB shouldn't have meddled with the current squad, had it been a normal cricket board. But this is a right decision by an abnormal cricketing body. YOUSAF, YOUNIS, FAWAD ALAM are the requirements of this team which must have been understood by the board before this all important tour. KANERIA averages 42 in his last three years (39.5 in last 5)of test crickets and deserves a life time rest now. Check statsguru.

  • Muhammad Haseeb on August 2, 2010, 21:05 GMT

    Very Well said Mr. Abbasi. There was no need for a knee jerk reaction from PCB management. I can't say that how much Yousaf will be able to contribute with the bat. PCB should have given this team enough chances before recalling the old horses. There should be some sense and logic in the PCB management's decision making. These frequent changes will never let the team settle.

  • Ali Khan on August 2, 2010, 20:42 GMT

    I totally agree with u on this ,Pakistan Cricket borad is joke they always do such stupid things without consulting there captian and coach , As a fan i am very happy to see great legend like waqar , ijaz are doing effort to help pakistan cricket grow but if PCB makes decision like this without captian and coach involement i am sorry to say but we will look a new coach after few months . Lets see what will this chage bring . I hope Moyo plays like he played before and give some sort of hope or should i say confidance to this young pakistan team .

  • Muhammed on August 2, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    Kamran bhai good article..its not he coach nor the captain nor the players that are at fault..the fault lies wid mr ijaz butt..the sooner we remove him and instill someone like imraan khan as the head of pak cricket baord the sooner pakistan will recover from this fiasco of keep chopping n changing captains in the middle of tours..no doubt if pak wanna recover they need moyo n younis khan back..youngsters will learn from them.plzz post my comment

  • DR MASOOD AHMED on August 2, 2010, 19:50 GMT

    Asalamu alaikum Dr kamran bhai , i incidentally belong to the same profession as yours though not as well qualified , being Indian by nationality also separates me from U a wee bit , differences aside i share the same passion for cricket and Pakistan cricket in particular , it a tragedy of sorts for salman butt and his team at Trent bridge , and such a huge defeat and its shocking effect both short term and long term warranted some strong decisions i hope u would agree with me that the pak team was slaughter of lambs to put it politely YOUSUF and MISBAH WERE REQUIRED TO STABILIZE THE TEAM , Perhaps ASIM KAMAL warrants a place too, even greats like tendulkar were brought into team when kapil dev and azharuddin were still around in addition to dilip vensarkar and srikanth not to mention GAVASKAR , There is absolutely no logic to bring in youngsters all alone and suffering massive defeats the win over australia being an abberation

  • Zaheer on August 2, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    Well said Mr. Abbasi, the vision, sense and logic are important part of any strategy. However backing those players who are supposed to be seniors (read Shoeb Malik & Kamran Akmal) not performing to their potential isn't something illogic? With a strong bowling line up the team does not need a part time bowler like Shoeb who is failing in his batting miserably. The same way Pakistan is trying with so many young batsmen why can't they go for a young wicket keeper as well? People say Kamran Akmal has the potential but so far he has been a disaster in the England tour. I think recalling Yasser Hamid would be a good idea. And to certain extent I support Mohammed Yousuf's recall in the team.

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  • Zaheer on August 2, 2010, 19:41 GMT

    Well said Mr. Abbasi, the vision, sense and logic are important part of any strategy. However backing those players who are supposed to be seniors (read Shoeb Malik & Kamran Akmal) not performing to their potential isn't something illogic? With a strong bowling line up the team does not need a part time bowler like Shoeb who is failing in his batting miserably. The same way Pakistan is trying with so many young batsmen why can't they go for a young wicket keeper as well? People say Kamran Akmal has the potential but so far he has been a disaster in the England tour. I think recalling Yasser Hamid would be a good idea. And to certain extent I support Mohammed Yousuf's recall in the team.

  • DR MASOOD AHMED on August 2, 2010, 19:50 GMT

    Asalamu alaikum Dr kamran bhai , i incidentally belong to the same profession as yours though not as well qualified , being Indian by nationality also separates me from U a wee bit , differences aside i share the same passion for cricket and Pakistan cricket in particular , it a tragedy of sorts for salman butt and his team at Trent bridge , and such a huge defeat and its shocking effect both short term and long term warranted some strong decisions i hope u would agree with me that the pak team was slaughter of lambs to put it politely YOUSUF and MISBAH WERE REQUIRED TO STABILIZE THE TEAM , Perhaps ASIM KAMAL warrants a place too, even greats like tendulkar were brought into team when kapil dev and azharuddin were still around in addition to dilip vensarkar and srikanth not to mention GAVASKAR , There is absolutely no logic to bring in youngsters all alone and suffering massive defeats the win over australia being an abberation

  • Muhammed on August 2, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    Kamran bhai good article..its not he coach nor the captain nor the players that are at fault..the fault lies wid mr ijaz butt..the sooner we remove him and instill someone like imraan khan as the head of pak cricket baord the sooner pakistan will recover from this fiasco of keep chopping n changing captains in the middle of tours..no doubt if pak wanna recover they need moyo n younis khan back..youngsters will learn from them.plzz post my comment

  • Ali Khan on August 2, 2010, 20:42 GMT

    I totally agree with u on this ,Pakistan Cricket borad is joke they always do such stupid things without consulting there captian and coach , As a fan i am very happy to see great legend like waqar , ijaz are doing effort to help pakistan cricket grow but if PCB makes decision like this without captian and coach involement i am sorry to say but we will look a new coach after few months . Lets see what will this chage bring . I hope Moyo plays like he played before and give some sort of hope or should i say confidance to this young pakistan team .

  • Muhammad Haseeb on August 2, 2010, 21:05 GMT

    Very Well said Mr. Abbasi. There was no need for a knee jerk reaction from PCB management. I can't say that how much Yousaf will be able to contribute with the bat. PCB should have given this team enough chances before recalling the old horses. There should be some sense and logic in the PCB management's decision making. These frequent changes will never let the team settle.

  • Faisal Jaan on August 2, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    PCB shouldn't have meddled with the current squad, had it been a normal cricket board. But this is a right decision by an abnormal cricketing body. YOUSAF, YOUNIS, FAWAD ALAM are the requirements of this team which must have been understood by the board before this all important tour. KANERIA averages 42 in his last three years (39.5 in last 5)of test crickets and deserves a life time rest now. Check statsguru.

  • fahim jalali on August 2, 2010, 21:12 GMT

    another pathetic and spineless performance from 8 men. i say 8 because the 2w's and gul are pretty much carrying the other 8 with ball and now bat even ! batters have no technique, no patience and no shame. not 1 did i see play for pakistan but purely for headlines. all show off's if you ask me as they would rather be flashy 20 merchants then a grafted 70. 2 akmals need be dropped and farhat too. amin and azhar i might stick with for a few. kaneira gone is good as no patience again to nag at the batters-again too flashy with his variations. farhat ? gimme break - and him ! ijaz butt ? well if there was a bigger joker (in every sense) i would like to meet him !

  • Asif on August 3, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    We can all cry until the cows come home because nothing will change. The PCB is a circus full of egotistic morons, self centered, who do not fear for anything because they are all politically appointed and motivated by greed. Who will question them for accountability and performance ? The same can be directed at the very people who have placed them with political support. To make a scapegoat of Kaneria is an absolute disgrace.

    We can all see the team needs desperate batting coaching and mental development of players. Waqar is a fantastic bowling coach but needs help in the batting and fielding elements. Sadly Ijaz Ahmed alone is not the answer. Development of players is a national objective requiring planning and investement. This should cascade from the very top with vision and positive statements. Unfortunatley bringing back Yousuf is not the answer or forward thinking. Just watch the dressing room fun and games if he comes back!

    Use Yasser Hameed , get Malik to bat at no 3.

  • Ali Karim Bey on August 3, 2010, 0:18 GMT

    Pakistan Zindabad. The great players are: Malik, Yousuf, and Younus. No doubt in anyone's mind.

    But, what is going on? Is this Drama Team necessary? It looks like a Cricket Daytime Soap TV Show. Or, is it a reality show of a national cricket team? Either way, it makes no sense.

    - AKB

  • Sami on August 3, 2010, 1:09 GMT

    Azhar Ali, Umar Amin, Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik with first class averages of low 30s to 40s are definitely not the best talent available in the country. Please explain to why Umar Amin with a first class average of merely 39 and continuous failure in last 3 test matches is being given more chances where fawad alam, with a first class average of 56 and much more talented than any of the above mentioned was drop after 2 test matches. Even when he scored a half century against australia in the last ODI on the fastest Perth pitch. Waqar Younis and people like you relentlessly justify keeping mediocre players from punjab in the team because they are punjabi. Otherwise, there are a lot more talented players in the rest of the country. God save our country from Punjabis..