Indian cricket August 22, 2010

Who should bat at No. 7 for India?

"Who should be playing at No.7 for India?" That question qualifies to be the single-most popular point of debate looming large on everyone's mind
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"Who should be playing at No.7 for India?" The question qualifies to be the single-most popular point of debate looming large on everyone's mind. Cricket pundits, media, blogosphere and discussion forums are thinking aloud while the selectors are keeping a close eye on the contenders. Of course, one doesn't need rocket science to decode the answer. The player at No. 7 has to be an "allrounder" for it's too low for a pure batsman and too high for a bowler to bat. So who is an allrounder? No, he isn't a jack of all trades and master of none. Kallis, who could walk into any team purely as a batsman, and yet deliver with the ball, or Flintoff, who could be the spearhead of any bowling attack, and yet be able to flash his bat, are the ones who win the title hands down.

Let's go over the probables to see who fits the bill best. There has been a lot of debate to bring Irfan Pathan back into the mix. This debate has potential; the guy has shown enough talent and temperament to become a genuine allrounder. With his batting abilities, he could be your ideal No. 7 for he has both the sense to farm the strike and the guts to use the long handle to good effect.

Unfortunately, though, his bowling has put him off the radar. He seems to have lost a bit of pace and swing lately which means that he must bowl with the new ball and stay away from the death overs. But don't we already have Praveen Kumar with the same job profile?

The Indian team can't have both Praveen and Irfan in the playing XI for both of them can't be bowling in tandem with the new ball. More importantly, you can't expect your spinners to be bowling in the batting Powerplay and the death overs. Irfan may be a better batsman but only three quick bowlers can play in the XI which means Irfan must bowl his quota of 10 overs, which seems difficult in the sub-continent, or so the team management believes.

Since the World Cup is slated for the subcontinent, good thinking says, we would need a spinning allrounder rather than a fast-bowling one.

So now the toss-up is between Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja. Ideally the No. 7 batsman should be a big hitter who could hit sixes at ease and going by that criterion Yusuf fits the bill perfectly. And that's why the selectors put him on trial initially but his inability to hit consistently and more importantly his inability to bowl 7-8 overs on a regular basis cost him his place in the side.

Now the only available and promising option left for India is Jadeja. He may be the last choice but not necessarily a bad one. The only thing that goes against him is that he's a grafter and not a big hitter and you'd seldom wish for a grafter at No. 7. But he's bringing enough to the table to make up for that shortcoming. He is bowling his quota of 10 overs on a regular basis at a miserly economy of under five runs an over. He also chips in with a wicket or two to add value. And he's one of the best outfielders with extremely quick legs to cover the ground and a rocket-like throw even from the deep. Though he hasn't set the world alight with the bat, he still averages in the mid-30s in ODIs which isn't poor; keeping in mind that No. 7 is the toughest spot to bat in an ODI. His critics seem to be mixing his T20 failures with his showing in ODIs which is not fair on the guy.

I, and presumably the Indian team too, would go with Jadeja for the World Cup. Once they have identified Jadeja as their ideal No. 7, it's only just to persist with him especially when he's doing his job just fine.

Former India opener Aakash Chopra is the author of Out of the Blue, an account of Rajasthan's 2010-11 Ranji Trophy victory. His website is here and his Twitter feed here

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  • Anonymous on October 24, 2010, 14:06 GMT

    Irfan has been suffering from back injury and is advised rest for at least a month to recover quickly. With Ranji season scheduled to start next month, Irfan will certainly be eyeing a quick recovery. He had to miss the first two Ranji matches last season owing to knee injury. After IPL 2010, he gave a miss to all the domestic tournaments as he was undergoing treatment for his injuries.

    so hope fully he will get a shot soon before the WC begins. A Pathan at full go is badly missed in the team.

  • Rahul Sinha on October 16, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    I think every team should support their talented players who are natural match winners.

    The 2 natural match winners for India are the Pathan brothers.

    BCCI and srikant should concentrate on Pathan brothers and try to help them on their weak areas.Their is no reason why Irfan can't bawl faster and yusuf cant play short balls.

    How many times have they changed the course of a match single handed.

    I am so surprized and amused that they are being ignored and the medioker people selected and given chance again and again.

    There is still time otherwise we might loose a tight crucial world cup game. It will be a shame, as it might well be the last world cup for Sachin.

  • Mohan on October 5, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    I think R. Ashwin would be the best at that position.

  • jimmy on September 19, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    Number 7 batting always in pressure situation ,i agree with mr akash ,Jadeja already proved the he is good fielder and blower,for batting he should be given chance to bat at top order and to increase his confidence.it already known that raina .rohit cant play fast short ball,dravid far better than them,we need dravid to atable the inings when quick wicket falls ,badri should be in team ahead of raina and rohit.

  • Robbie on September 14, 2010, 13:12 GMT

    I hate to see DK and RJ in television. India is palying with DK and RJ as if we dont have any other potential players in India. These guys can play only street cricket. Even in my town, we dont include these kind of palyers to play for my team. 7th position is a crucial one when it comes for batting. If the top and middle order fails, the allrounder should have the capability to win matches with his batting ability rather than his bowling. As a whole, the allrounder should be a batting allrounder according to indian cricket style. We dont have a world class bowling attack. Our strength is our batting and we need to strengthen our batting further by adding an batting allrounder. Moreover, even if we play with 6 specialised bowlers, we will allow the opponent to score 300+ on a 270 track. So India would benefit only if we play with a batting allrounder or with a specialised batsman. The better choices are Robin, Irfan and Yousuf.

  • Robbie on September 14, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    I totally disagree with Aakash. I dono why indian selecters giving these many chances for Jadeja and Karthik. Also these lads will get praises from Dhoni if they made even a small contribution on a winning match. In fact, they are good for nothing. The best option for world cup is Yousuf Pathan. Otherwise we can go with 7+4 option by including Robin in the playing XI.

  • Prashant Mohan on September 13, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    I don't totally agree with you there Aakash. I'd rather play a Robin Utthappa at number 7. He is a big hitter of the ball, and probably the ideal finisher we are looking for, along with Suresh Raina at no. 6. As far as the fifth bowler is concerned, we can use Sehwag, Yuvraj and Raina to fill up. Yuvi has consistently bowled 6-7 overs in ODI's, Sehwag is a smart bowler, and so is Raina(I don't know why he doesnt bowl these days). This way, even if the top order collapses and we lose 3-4 wickets early on, we have Dhoni, Raina and Utthappa at 5,6,7 which is a potent attack, with Bhajji and Praveen providing some lusty blows towards the end too.

  • RANJAN KUMAR on September 10, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    At present for this slot,Irfan is the Best choice.

  • Parit on September 8, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    I agree with Akash in favour of Jadeja. Firstly, yes, we have to have a spinner at number 7 spot. Secondly, Kohli/Rohit wont fit the bill there. Kohli, obviously for his bowling and Rohit because you cannot expect him to consistently ball 10 overs. You can mix it with Raina and Yuvi but that wont sustain the entire world cup campaign. Jadeja has been belted but we should look where all he was belted and how often did that happen on Indian pitches. Jadeja has got really nice ability to choke things for the opposition which Rohit cannot match. As someone said above, if your top six cannot do it then why to expect so much from number 7? I think best in this regard would be to send jadeja at the right spot for batting. As said he is more of a grafter, then send him up before Dhoni. Another quite neglected option is to consider Ashwin. Start with Praveen and Ashwin... then choke the middle with Nehra and Khan...

  • Rajesh on September 5, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    Sachin Sehwag Gambhir Yuvraj Dhoni Raina Irfan Harbhajan Zaheer Praveen Nehra

  • Anonymous on October 24, 2010, 14:06 GMT

    Irfan has been suffering from back injury and is advised rest for at least a month to recover quickly. With Ranji season scheduled to start next month, Irfan will certainly be eyeing a quick recovery. He had to miss the first two Ranji matches last season owing to knee injury. After IPL 2010, he gave a miss to all the domestic tournaments as he was undergoing treatment for his injuries.

    so hope fully he will get a shot soon before the WC begins. A Pathan at full go is badly missed in the team.

  • Rahul Sinha on October 16, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    I think every team should support their talented players who are natural match winners.

    The 2 natural match winners for India are the Pathan brothers.

    BCCI and srikant should concentrate on Pathan brothers and try to help them on their weak areas.Their is no reason why Irfan can't bawl faster and yusuf cant play short balls.

    How many times have they changed the course of a match single handed.

    I am so surprized and amused that they are being ignored and the medioker people selected and given chance again and again.

    There is still time otherwise we might loose a tight crucial world cup game. It will be a shame, as it might well be the last world cup for Sachin.

  • Mohan on October 5, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    I think R. Ashwin would be the best at that position.

  • jimmy on September 19, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    Number 7 batting always in pressure situation ,i agree with mr akash ,Jadeja already proved the he is good fielder and blower,for batting he should be given chance to bat at top order and to increase his confidence.it already known that raina .rohit cant play fast short ball,dravid far better than them,we need dravid to atable the inings when quick wicket falls ,badri should be in team ahead of raina and rohit.

  • Robbie on September 14, 2010, 13:12 GMT

    I hate to see DK and RJ in television. India is palying with DK and RJ as if we dont have any other potential players in India. These guys can play only street cricket. Even in my town, we dont include these kind of palyers to play for my team. 7th position is a crucial one when it comes for batting. If the top and middle order fails, the allrounder should have the capability to win matches with his batting ability rather than his bowling. As a whole, the allrounder should be a batting allrounder according to indian cricket style. We dont have a world class bowling attack. Our strength is our batting and we need to strengthen our batting further by adding an batting allrounder. Moreover, even if we play with 6 specialised bowlers, we will allow the opponent to score 300+ on a 270 track. So India would benefit only if we play with a batting allrounder or with a specialised batsman. The better choices are Robin, Irfan and Yousuf.

  • Robbie on September 14, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    I totally disagree with Aakash. I dono why indian selecters giving these many chances for Jadeja and Karthik. Also these lads will get praises from Dhoni if they made even a small contribution on a winning match. In fact, they are good for nothing. The best option for world cup is Yousuf Pathan. Otherwise we can go with 7+4 option by including Robin in the playing XI.

  • Prashant Mohan on September 13, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    I don't totally agree with you there Aakash. I'd rather play a Robin Utthappa at number 7. He is a big hitter of the ball, and probably the ideal finisher we are looking for, along with Suresh Raina at no. 6. As far as the fifth bowler is concerned, we can use Sehwag, Yuvraj and Raina to fill up. Yuvi has consistently bowled 6-7 overs in ODI's, Sehwag is a smart bowler, and so is Raina(I don't know why he doesnt bowl these days). This way, even if the top order collapses and we lose 3-4 wickets early on, we have Dhoni, Raina and Utthappa at 5,6,7 which is a potent attack, with Bhajji and Praveen providing some lusty blows towards the end too.

  • RANJAN KUMAR on September 10, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    At present for this slot,Irfan is the Best choice.

  • Parit on September 8, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    I agree with Akash in favour of Jadeja. Firstly, yes, we have to have a spinner at number 7 spot. Secondly, Kohli/Rohit wont fit the bill there. Kohli, obviously for his bowling and Rohit because you cannot expect him to consistently ball 10 overs. You can mix it with Raina and Yuvi but that wont sustain the entire world cup campaign. Jadeja has been belted but we should look where all he was belted and how often did that happen on Indian pitches. Jadeja has got really nice ability to choke things for the opposition which Rohit cannot match. As someone said above, if your top six cannot do it then why to expect so much from number 7? I think best in this regard would be to send jadeja at the right spot for batting. As said he is more of a grafter, then send him up before Dhoni. Another quite neglected option is to consider Ashwin. Start with Praveen and Ashwin... then choke the middle with Nehra and Khan...

  • Rajesh on September 5, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    Sachin Sehwag Gambhir Yuvraj Dhoni Raina Irfan Harbhajan Zaheer Praveen Nehra

  • dhruv on September 5, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    why not try robin uthappa in at 7 and play 4 bowlers. He is the biggest hitter of the cricket ball in India after Yousof Pathan and is much better against the short ball. Sehwag, yuvi and raina can bowl 10 overs between them. DUMP JADEJA!!!. He cant handle pressure situtations.

  • Dayakar Reddy on September 4, 2010, 13:05 GMT

    Uthappa@No.7 as a wicket keeper. Dhoni has to concentrate a bit on his medium pace. because, no one in present team(i.e new comers) can hit short ball as effectively as uthappa.

  • Sandy'p Sharma on September 4, 2010, 9:58 GMT

    Fail to understand everybody is pushing for Irfan Pathan. can't remember any of his notable performance ever since he's been dropped,he's rather improved his skills in dancing, acting or modelling. be it an IPL ranji or any other domestic his performance is deteriorating..... not on the field he's more visible on T.V reality shows or his luv story. sheer talent he was wen busted on cricketing circle was even named next Kapil dev. perfect example of not handling too much of stardom , sorry guys me too was a big Irfan's fan but not now. Yusuf is betterbet at no 7 . remember we need a bowler batsman at no 7. Irfan was even thrashed by local players at Kings 11 punjab match. y not try some new talent. o.k... other domestic games are not selection criteria these days (otherwise Cheteshwar Pujara had been the permanent test batsman by now after scoring tons of runs) but pls don't ignore IPL performances of guys like Robin uthappa, manish pandey, tiwary, raydu...

  • testMan on September 3, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Yusuf Pathan is another one shot wonder like Shahid Afridi. Who thinks he can win the match in one shot (even if he is facing the first ball of the match). We need someone who can think a bit. With Jadeja not working it's Irfan only that fits the bill.

  • asa on September 3, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    Akash, you have dissapointed us. Please no Jadeja in any format of the game. He is a loser and no temperament in crunch situations. Please request to BCCI selection panel drop him and save the world cup.

  • Mirza on September 3, 2010, 12:06 GMT

    The responses to this article from Aakash Chopra, I see that 95% people do not agree having Jadeja in the team. Being Indian, I am an avid follower of cricket - Wherever I have been i.e. IN AND OUT OF COUNTRY, I only hear Jadeja should not be in the team. Majority wants Irfan/Yousuf/a batsman at no. 7.

    Sense should prevail and I hope people views are also considered.

  • sivaraman on September 3, 2010, 11:46 GMT

    continuation of my last comment: 4.ashwin is played well as all-rounder in his debut,he bowls like above average bowler and gets 2 important wickets and bats aggressively and deffensively when its need and score useful 38 runs. we can't predict him by one match so we need to give lot chances to him. so we need to use jadeja in 7 th position in some matches and ashwin in some matches. my dream playing XI would be: 1.sehwag 2.gambhir 3.sachin 4.raina 5.dhoni 6.yuvraj 7.jadeja/ashwin 8.harbajan 9.praveen 10.zaheer 11.nehra.

  • sivaraman on September 3, 2010, 11:32 GMT

    we have 4 options to choose a bowling all-rounder. 1.IRFAN: he is one of the best all-rounder in the world in one time,but now In local matches he bat well but he loose his bowling form, he bowl below than average bowler. so he will not be the correct one. 2.YUSUF: he is the one of the great striker against spin but he struggle with fast.he bowls like a average bowler but not better than jadeja.so he will not be the correct one. 3.JADEJA: he is not a better bowler or batsman but the same time he is not a poor bowler or batsman.most time he bowls like average bowler, sometime he is poor in bowling, he is not bat well in under pressure.he is also correct one. In above three, jadeja doesn't affect too much.same time doesn't help too much. Irfan affect too much or help too much,like wise yusuf also affect too mouch or help too much. we can not pick a player for few good performances, we should pick a player for overall performance. jadeja is better option in overall performance.

  • sivaraman on September 3, 2010, 11:03 GMT

    In my opinion, If the Bowling all-rounder plays well that makes better confident in the bowlers to bat.If we have 5 pure bowlers in the playing XI then our batsman bowling which is best sometime that will be wasted.bowlers also sometimes bat likewise batsmans also should bowl 6 to 8 overs that will be used to fill the that day failure bowler.we can not expect that batsman bowls well in every match.so 7 th position should be bowling all-rounder and not bowler or extra batsman.

  • Sunny on September 3, 2010, 4:54 GMT

    this team can win next world cup from my point of view

    1 Sehwag 2 Gambhir 3 Raina 4 Sachin 5 Yuvi OR Virat Kohli 6 Dhoni 7 Yusuf Pathan OR Rohit Sharma 8 Irfan Pathan (Must be IN the team) 9 Harbhajan 10Parveen Kumar 11Zaheer Khan Reserve:Nehra,KD.kartik,Sreesanth.

  • Chandru on September 3, 2010, 1:43 GMT

    We want Irfan

  • RCB_till_I_dies on September 2, 2010, 15:42 GMT

    Time and time again we have seen Jadeja failing like Agarkar...In my opinion we have Viru/Raina/Rohit/Yuvi who can share the bowling and I would opt for a pure batsman in the Dravid mould...Cheteshwar Pujara fits the bill perfectly for this...He can bring stability to the middle order when batting under lights with some of the other batters falling like 9 pins with the exception of, of course, Sachin and Viru.

  • Venkat on September 2, 2010, 4:11 GMT

    Dear Akash,

    Why dont we try Ajit Agarkar who has better economy rate than many indian bowlers like Irfan, Sreeshant, Munaf. He bowls 4 loose balls in an over. I agree but bowls 2 wicket taking balls. Remember the Indian Tour of England under Dravid's Captaincy. We lost the match because of Broad and Bopara. But agarkar got 4 - 60. RP singh was not even close to getting a wicket in that match also he had a fantastic Australian Tour. Imagine a team with Irfan, Praveen, Agarkar, Harbajan and Zaheer all can bat...

  • Siddarth on September 1, 2010, 23:42 GMT

    I agree most of you, Irfan pathan is the ultimate choice.... hope to see him soon

  • Naman on September 1, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    Ifran is a far better bowler than Jadeja, and a much better striker. He averages below 30 in odi's, but still the selecters are preferring Jadeja.

  • Anirudh Babbar on September 1, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Ravindra Jadeja doesnt deserve a place in Indian Team, that is the saying of Indian Public.

    We love cricket and we want our team to be better than others.

    Sorry Akash, I again disagree with you for the 7th position.

    Irfan Pathan or Yousuf Pathan.

    Irfan pathan has big experience on his back & he has Allways performed well with the bat and ball.

    See he was going well as an allrounder at his initial stage of career, the downfall started when Indian Captain demanded more of what he was capable off.

    You tried to mold him as a specialist batsman and even sent him to open the innings numerous times and regularly sent him on one down or two down to set the stage for the team.

    He is a Genuine allrounder , but Indian team expected more & more from him and the result was that he lost his concentration.

    I would suggest bing him back and this time give him his 7th position to bat.

    Else we have only one Option Left i.e Big Pathan - The Yousuf Pathan.

  • sachin on August 31, 2010, 23:07 GMT

    Jadeja got max.chances but he totaly failed to deliever. my world cup team is 1.sachin 2.sehwag 3.gambir 4.raina 5.yuvraj 6.dhoni 7.utthapa/dravid/yusuf 8.harbhajan 9.zahir 10.praveen 11.nehra

  • Ritesh on August 31, 2010, 19:31 GMT

    Well said Aakash.

    I agree with your views. He is indeed a multi-dimensional player. Nice economy rate...much better than forntline bowlers like Nehra, Kumar, Sree-santh, Ishant...

    He is a young man and deserves a good run though he needs to work on his batting a bit.

  • jumbo on August 31, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    someone please ask "Aakash Chopra" have you ever seen Jadeja betting with confidence!!! just check his current series scores 1st match 22(44)-- and you can't see single good stroke in 44 delivery he face. 2nd match thanks to Sehwag, he didn't need to bat. 3rd match 0(9) nothing need to say here...4th match-- 17(26) where he score 3 fours and you know what 2 of them are edged fours.even ishant can hit better then him... and still with this performance i know selectors going to pick him because this is "the best" India have!!! come on give me a break!!

  • Manoj L on August 31, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    Hi Aakash this is for Srikant and M.S.Dhoni .....

    Please keep your personal grudges aside and pick players like IRFAN PATHAN, YUSUF PATHAN, ROBIN UTHAPPA IN 15 Pls. leave JADEJA till WORLD CUP.

    I wan't India to win World Cup so my playing 15 for WC Squad are as follows :

    1) Virendra Sehwag 2) Sachin Tendulkar 3)Gautam Gambhir 4) Yuvraj Singh 5)Suresh Raina 6)M.S.Dhoni 7)Irfan Pathan 8)Harbhajan Singh 9)Zaheer Khan 10)Praveen Kumar 11)Ishant Sharma 12)Ashish Nehra 13)Robin Uthappa 14)Pragyan Ojha 15)Yusuf Pathan

    JAY HO INDIA!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mahesh on August 31, 2010, 5:11 GMT

    Ho poor jadeja .infact he is bettr bowler then batsman .and he is lack of confidence ,body language is not good.i thnk he dnt desrv place in the team. I thnk irfan, yusuf, and abishek nayar .can fill tat spot .and plz bring back robin uthappa .shrikanth wat els he wana do to impres u .

  • Missiriya on August 31, 2010, 4:06 GMT

    Y there is no more post published 29th morning? as u get more comments against the editor and the selection board?..... what ever let it be..... We want India 2 win the worldcup.... the selection committee is showing bias againg few players like Irfan, Uthappa and Dravid..... thats well known to everyone even if the medias are trying to hide

  • mahin on August 30, 2010, 19:46 GMT

    I dont understand y there is no posts listed after 29th morning?

  • Nik Patel on August 30, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    You are kidding me.. You could loose games having Jadeja in the team.. Bring back Irfan Pathan and try him again and give him a long run like Jadeja.. I better have either specialist bastman or bowler instead of Jadeja in the mix.. I can't believe this...

  • Dhawal Chowdhry on August 30, 2010, 15:58 GMT

    Hahahaha.....

    wt a joke....Jadeja alongwith Dinesh Karthik are nothing but son-in laws of Indian Cricket team who are continuously pampered and given a spot, when they should be totally debarred from the game of cricket. Jadeja is a worse batsmen than even Ashish Nehra, but is picked up as an all rounder just to disgrace the word "all rounder". Dinesh Karthik on the other hand bats like a person who has forgotten his important guards back in the dressing room. Even Saurabh Tiwary, Abhishek Nayar, Manish Pandey, Irfan Pathan can do a better job than Jadeja even with their eyes fold. Please dont disgrace your credentials as an expert.

  • Sameer on August 30, 2010, 13:01 GMT

    Hi Aakash, Wht do u think about Murali Kartik, he has really done well in T-20 (I think he is probably the best Limited over bowler in India. if u r watching county cricket then u can understand how gr8 job he is doin for somerset in all form of the game. Dont go fro his age, he is still the best spinner in India even harbhajan can not come closer to Kartik

  • Sameer on August 30, 2010, 12:55 GMT

    Hi everyone, stop writing now bcoz nothing is gonna to happen unless n untill shrikanth is thr, it is useless to debate on this matter. Kristen n Shrikanth both have already told Irfan is not in our world cup planning even Uthappa.

  • suresh roy on August 30, 2010, 7:31 GMT

    My 2011 Indian world cup team Is shewag,Sachin,raina,kohli,dhoni, yuvraz,y pathan,I pathan,proveen humar,horvazan,asish nehra, sreesant, Z khan,Sourab Tewary,&Goutam Gamveer. it Is The best Tean For India For 2011.

  • rish on August 30, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    dhoni can be best 7th batsmen when fired from captaincy and give it to shewag.i dont think dhoni is a greatest captain than shewag.only potential players(shewag,yuvi,sachin,dhoni and bowlers at random)brought us victories than his captaincy.his captaincy is normal not bad not good.but we know this certainly not happen so...

    uthappa for rohit sharma.he has improved his game.rohit sharma better play in only ipls and one of pathans for jadeja(jadeja unfit in even afghanisthan or any international team).also we can try sourav tiwary and rayudu.

  • Missiriya on August 29, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN IRFAN PATHAN

    No other choice.... dont keep jadeja.. Srikanth should aiming at winning the world cup rather than eliminating IRFAN PATHAN....

    it seems srikanth would prefare 2 play with 10 players rather than having pathan in the team.. He is very much busy in finding the alternatives to avoid PATHAN...

    hellooooo mr.srikanth.... thr ur personal bias against IRFAN... We want our INDIA should lift the world cup....

    JAI HIND

  • Indian All-Rounder on August 29, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    I can give 5 options for the All-Rounder Slot

    the options are as follows

    Option 1 - Irfan pathan or Option 2 - Irfan Pathan or Option 3 - Irfan pathan or Option 4 - Irfan pathan or Option 5 - Irfan pathan

    Yah the one and only all rounder the Indian team Needed

  • Cricket Lover on August 29, 2010, 16:59 GMT

    No use of all our comments and discussion Friends.....

    We are atleast cricket fans..... Krisnamatchari Srikanth wont Pick IRFAN PATHAN even if cricket experts and all the crickets suggest....

    Krish Wont hear anyone's word.... He considered himself as the one and only genius and expert opinion putter in the cricket world

  • V-United on August 29, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    I dont understand Y there zz a comparison between Praveen kumar and Irfan for an all-rounder slot...?????

    Praveen is more of a Bowler, though he entered the team india as an all-rounder, he is well establish we a bowler.. he is yet to prove as an All-rounder in International Arena... we cant compare Praveen with Ifran.. praveen may be an all-rounder in domestic competitions but Ifran already Proved as an International All-rounder...

    Its shame to see Politics in BCCI selection too... Irfan has been Continuously boycotted by the selectors...

  • Mahin on August 29, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    Dear Friends & Cricket Lovers...

    I can hear all ur voice for IRFAN.... there is no place for Irfan in Indian Cricket Team Until Kris Srikanth is there as Selector....

    I donno Why ??????

    But the one and only person who zz perfectly Fit for the requirement of Indian Cricket Team is Irfan... No doubt in it.. leave about his bowling.... his batting is far far better than our specialised batsmen who r in the current squad...

    Robin Uthappa, Yousuf Pathan, R.Ashwin, Abhisheik Nayer are the other talents to be consider... we r running out of time... stop experimenting with Jadeja, Rohit, Karthik... Ofcourse they r good players, but not ahead of all those mentioned Early

  • zameer on August 29, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Lets put some statistics around the options we have around Ravindra Jadeja, Irfan Pathan, Yousuf Pathan

    Player Mat Runs Ave S.Rate 50's Wkts Ave Econ RJ 34 535 31.47 76.9 4 29 41.55 4.84 IP 107 1368 22.8 77.68 5 152 29.91 5.25 YP 37 376 22.11 103.01 2 21 40.66 5.75

    None of above players come close to Kapil, Flintoff, Kallis so the question is what exactly are we looking at # 7 in ODI's. Just looking at the stat's RJ thus shows some promise and no harm in persisting with him. But we are not sure about the future of ODI's and in T20's YK thus make a case for his hitting abilities. The biggest issue is Test and my feeling is we need to persist with IF for his bowling and batting abilities.

    I wonder what role NCA is playing around developing and nurturing players to be allrounders.

    At this point of time the more serious issue is lack of quality spinner. Can R Jadeja be tried for Test and if so he can be a valuable player in Test as well.

  • prav on August 29, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    is jadeja is son in law of bcci ? if not he can play 4 india evven when he is not able to win any match on his own & he always do oppsite for eg when he is batting he get wickets insted of runs and when he is bowling he get runs insted of runs just big puzzle how hw manged to come in indian team.......we hav far better option than this in india w e r just puting ourselves down by supporting such players

  • Praful on August 29, 2010, 8:27 GMT

    i totally disagree with you as he is more of a part time spinner.His level of batting doesn't match the international standards.Moreover no. 7 is a very important position where you need a big hitter or who can score quickly. Jadeja has got ample opportunities. Why not the selectors try I.Pathan or Yusuf? irfan has done really well as an all-rounder in the recent IPL 3

  • Feroze on August 29, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    My choice will be Pathan brothers - becoz we need a agressive player in that position. At present i dont see any other than these two.

  • aniket on August 28, 2010, 19:20 GMT

    DHONI SIR , I M D G8 FAN OF INDIAN TEAM???? so plz bring yusuf pathan in team for 7th specialist batsman n + bowler ? keep jadeja out tell him to play more domestic matches n cum in form

  • vikas on August 28, 2010, 18:56 GMT

    i think jadeja has got enough opportunities to prove himself as an allrounder.... now we should go into the world cup with a proven allrounder irfan pathan.

  • b sarna on August 28, 2010, 2:04 GMT

    i would select chawla or the pathan brothers.jadeja has been given too many chances. He looked preety ordinary against New Zealand, going for 21 runs in three overs.

  • Prince on August 27, 2010, 12:02 GMT

    The only option is one of the Pathan brother. We don't have any options in India other than then.

    I won't play jadeja in my local team! He is perfect, as you implied, he just doesn't score runs or take wickets.

    Also his presence in the team is a demotivating factor.

    bring back pathans, Please.

  • Atul on August 27, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    Nobody has ever thought of promoting Zaks to No. 7. He has perfect temperament. Plays as per situations. His square cuts are worth to watch. ... Atul

  • Sreekanth on August 27, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    I think akash was right in the case of jadeja. I am agreein with him in the fact that people are mixin his poor performance in t20 with onedayers . He is probably the only no7 in the world who has a batin average more than 30. Then he may not be a match winner but the real fact is that no body can pick a team with 11match winners somebody has to play the supportin role along with 6or7 match winners . If the world cup eleven is as follows 1.sewag 2.sachin 3.gambir 4.yuvi/kohli 5.raina 6.dhoni 7.jadeja 8.pk 9.bhaji 10.zak 11.nehra then we have sachin,sewag,gambir,raina,yuvi,dhoni all who can win the match with bat single handedly . Then zak , harbajan,pkand nehra can make an impact with ball . Then comes jadejas role ,he can support both these category and he has got very good fieldin skills . Then we can go for other options at no7. 1.yusuf 2.pathan i 3.robin 4.a.nayar 5.promote harbajan or pk to no7. I think when it comes to onedayers yusuf now certainly doesnt reserve a chance as has failed both with bat (only two half century)and ball when compared to jadeja(4half centuries and couple hundred runs more than yusuf and certainly more wickets and more economical ). Then when come to irfan he certainly deserves a chance and the pathetic thing is that in 2009 when the selectors announced the teams for challenger trophy irfan didnt even get into the best 60 player s in the country . What happened to the selectors they have to give one more chance to him . Then nayar didnt get any chances till today and he will prove his worth when he gets a chance . Then uthapa deserves a chance as his recent form is terrific and he can be also used as a stand by for dhoni as a wk . Then when team is as i discussed and when the team has a healthy runrate and if in the death overs we can promote harbajan and pk before jadeja and if the team have lost some early wickets as in the recent series we can give jadeja the chance . Then another plus point is that he is very economical and can be used even in powerplay overs and dhoni has been usin him consistently in powerplay . Another fact is that the captain has got the faith in jadu that he can bowl his ten overs in every game . Then he is a fantastic fielder both in and outside the circle . He is certainly better fielder than the pcthan brothers and nayar and only robin is better than him in the above options .then there is no meanin in selectin an extra bowler or batsman . Because the indian battin lineup probably the best in the world when it comes to both experience and talent . And recently the bowlers have learned a lot . Then when it comes to the no7 he should be an allrounder . And accordin to me if the captain needs a bowlin allrounder then better to go with jadeja especially when the world cup comes in subcontinent . And when it comes to a battin allrounder it should be automatically irfan .

  • stumper on August 27, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    Aakash, I have read your book and articles on cricinfo and appreciate your views and quality of writing. On this point however, I disagree. Jadeja is one of the best outfielders we have but that's where his utility ends. He has consistently under-performed with the bat. When it comes to scoring 20-30 runs to win a match, I would trust the likes of zak, bhajji and pravin more than jadeja. His bowling has been sorted out, he does not spin the ball, just fires it in. Batmen are consistently getting under the ball and hitting him for 6s. For me the search for an all-rounder is not yet over. Agreed pathan jr and parvin cannot play together. Based on strength of performance, I will go with pravin the bowler. Plus we dont need another left armer with Zak and nehra. Pathan sr too has not grabbed his chances. How about Ashwin or Chawla?

  • Irfan on August 26, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    Akash why not u try ur luck for no. 7? anyways jadeja or u doesn't matter, india will be playing with only 10 players. use common sence, Irfan Pathan is the only option. debate over. Thankyou.

  • Anonymous on August 26, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    Ithink akash was right . Jadeja is a good allrounder . Then every body mixup with his bad performance in t20. Then ypathan is a utter waste accordin to me when it comes to oneday. Then irfan and abishek some chances.then we havenot seen any bowlin or battin allrounders even in ipl rather saw some keepin allrounders . Then uthapa can be given one more chance . Then actually if our team is as follows 1.sachin2.sewag3.gambir4.yuvi/kohli5.raina6.dhoni7.jadeja8.pk9.harbjan10.zak11.nehra then we have decent batsmen upto harbajan and zak can also bat a bit . Then jadeja is not a hardhitter then he team is havin 280for 5in 40 overs we can send in harbaj ,pk,or zak . We have seen that bhajis battin is improved when he played for mumbai . Then if it is a crunch situation as we seen in dambulla we can send jadu . Then when comes to bowlin and fieldin jadu is a brilliant in both than irfan and a.nayar . But when it comes to t20 ypathan is better than jadeja. Then dhoni has more faith in him . Then we have seen in 1st IPL he was doin well even under pressure (the match against mi ) . So defenitely he is the better choice for no 7

  • venkat malapaka on August 26, 2010, 5:19 GMT

    Dear aakash,you must be joking when you closed in on Jadeja.It seems you have finalised your choice and started giving the reasons for others weed out.First,understand that this Indian Tean may not need the services of any spinner.Yes including Harbajan,if he is not picking wickets.Sewagh,Youvraj,Raina, Rohit all can bowl atleast 5-6 overs each.That is the advantage of this team.Dhoni and Sachin will add to the batting strength.Dhoni can come at 7 th position if all the batsmen are doing well.Offlate ,Dhoni has become a grafter,amd so he can come down in the order.If top order is not performing,like now in Sri Lanka,then Dhoni can promote himself in the order,and think of then Yousuf/Irphan,as they both can bat,farm and finish the game.Irphan can even bat at the top of the order.I am sure,Irphan will come into this side with just his batting abilities,like Jimmy.For me Jadeja may not f

  • Arjun on August 26, 2010, 4:14 GMT

    Well this would be my team for the world cup in the batting order: Sachin, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Tiwary, Raina, Harbhajan, Praveen, Zaheer, Nehra.

    Dhoni has to bat at no:3 and look to hit the ball as he used to. Having Tiwary is great option for he can roatate the strike, play big shots, as we saw in IPL, this guy has serious talent, and India should start exploring. Indian pitches are meant to assist batsmen more, and its always good to have a 7 batsmen. For the reamaing ten overs, we have Yuvraj, Raina, Sehwag and Sachin too. I dont see Jadeja adds any value to the team. Atleast India have to try this combination before wc.

  • Amin Aijaz on August 26, 2010, 2:20 GMT

    This article belongs in Page 2! Ravindra Jadeja our ONLY option?? This bloke is probably more hated than Ajit Agarkar (in his last few days) now! And for all the right reasons. One good performance in 5-6 games doesn't warrant a place for him at all.. Get the Pathan brothers in. They are better, way better than RJadeja any day. If Irfan had been given a chance for a comeback and made to play at least a few matches like the tri-series, I'm sure he would take his chance and utilize it. Whoever was dropped for the Indian team, always came back stronger. Take Sehwag's case for example. Everyone was ready to write him off and he came back harder than ever. Guys like Ravindra Jadeja take their place for granted (which funnily thanks to some non-thinking selectors seems to be granted only, lol!) and have no real passion or an aggressive nature to them. Get back the Uthappas and the Pathans!

  • Siraj on August 26, 2010, 0:15 GMT

    R Jadega is a Biggest mistake by indian selection team. He had never won a match for india nor contributed in any match which india won till date ,(selector) I think it's time to call for a talent hunt programme for this spot.

  • jayachandran on August 25, 2010, 20:21 GMT

    Please dont joke mr akash...irfan is the best bet simply becoz temperament wise he is far ahead of pathan sr despite the latters ability to hit sixes...india nd a medium pace bowler who can bat at the 7th slot and it is worth to giv irfan an opportunity ..droppin jadeja shud b the first thing to do

  • Raksh on August 25, 2010, 10:41 GMT

    Nice Question asked Akash, i think the ideal no7 should be Irfan or Yusuf pathan , as the world cup is in subcontinents we can play any of these players as these players can finish the game , instead of Jadeja.

  • Thandi on August 25, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    Sorry Aakash you've got it totally wrong about jadeja at no.7. he's had his chances and is definetly not good enough with bat or ball at international level. I would pick Irfan Pathan at 7, his batting is getting better & better, ok his bowling has gone backwards but he can't do any worse than the current crop of pace bowling talent. Plus when we do play 3 quicks when do all 3 ever bowl there full quota of 10 overs! irfan would only need to bowl 6 or 7 plus he still has the knack of taking wkts. I would also take the likes of Y Pathan & Uthappa in world cup squad. My 11 would be..... Sehwag, Tendulkar,Gambhir,Yuvraj,Dhoni,Raina,I Pathan,H Singh,P Kumar,Ojha,Khan. subs Yusuf,Uthappa,Nehra,Yadav

  • gogz on August 25, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    As Geoffrey Boycott would put it - " Even my old mum can bat better than Ravindra Jadeja"

    or.... "if we classify Jadeja as all-rounder than tomorrow Ishant Sharma wud consider him as Don Bradman"

  • mvb sharma on August 25, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    wonderful joke by akash treating jadeja as an allrounder...who has not yet played an match winnning innings..he has not been up to the mark in both departments...why srikanth ignoring irfan who has been the only option for india..did indian team took any measures to bring back this guy in team for preparations of WC..i would irfan prefer as allrounder who can fit in the slot of no.7 with short runup bowling with keeper upto the stumps and as a al time gud batsmen..atleast try him once as he shown signs of making into the team by performing in either departments in ranji as well as IPL...

  • MD on August 24, 2010, 19:04 GMT

    When Razzaq and Mathews can play for Pak and SL respectively, despite bowling around the 125km mark, so can Irfan. Even Nehra and Praveen have their off days, so it is tough to blame Irfan that he is not consistent. He should atleast be in the 15, which will keep the others on their toes and not take things for granted. Same is the case with Yusuf, who for me is similar to Andrew Symonds or Cameron White, who can really bludgeon the opposition and bowl useful overs. My 15 will be:

    1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Gambhir 4) Yuvi 5) Dhoni 6) Raina 7) Yusuf 8) Irfan 9) Bhajji 10) Zaheer 11) Praveen 12) Sreeshant 13) Rohit 14) Robin 15) Ashwin

  • Praveen on August 24, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    Since Raina, Yuvi and Shewag can bowl india can go with 4 bowlers and 7 batsman. Sachin, shewag, Gambir, Raina, Yuvi, Dhoni, good youngster batsman

  • sivamani on August 24, 2010, 16:18 GMT

    i would rather play with 10 than playing with jadeja ...that will be good for india.he does not deserve to be in district level cricket.i m wondering how he has been given chance in international level cricket.only god can reveal the secret.

  • Rohit Davidson on August 24, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    Dear Akash. I know Jadeja was among wickets a few Ranji seasons back, infact was perhaps the highest wicket taker that season. He has potential and can bat the way we saw him bat for Rajasthan Royals in IPL I. But he hasnt been an exciting bat for Team India. I would still have an extra batsman (in form swashbuckling one like say Uthappa) somewhere or maybe recall Dravid for solidity in the lineup and let Rohit, Sehwag, Yuvraj or Raina handle the 5th bowlers' workload. I somehow feel there is a lack of confidence in Jadeja. He is good, but whether he can befuddle the best batsman or hit like Pathan? I doubt that. Besides Pathan (senior Pathan i.e.) can be used as a pinch hitter in any slot. He would do well on placid Indian pitches. I would have bet my money on a match winner like Yusuf. Although I would love to see Jadeja prove me wrong in the WC if he is chosen ahead of Yusuf.

  • Anonymous on August 24, 2010, 13:31 GMT

    Tendulkar, Sewhag, Gambhir, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Yusuf, Hrabhajan, Zaheer, Ishanth, Nehra,.... (thats your 11),, Uthappa should replace Karthik, Sreesanth, praveen and Rohit should make it 15... Kohli should be kept out till he is mature!, Jadeja shouldn't be even considered (remember the match T20 in England he lost for US batting ahead of Yusuf).

  • Ali asgar on August 24, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    For God's sake Aakash dont favour Jadeja, NO.7 should be strengthening the Indian team not weakening it. You need a finisher at no.7 while he should also be capable of getting quick runs. Forget about him bowling 10 overs we have enough options to take care of them. Jadeja,as he has shown could never score quickly and in crunch situations he himself gets finished! Cant you see how India struggles to make runs in last 10 overs during recent tournaments, thanks to MR.Jadeja who plays at a st.rate of 70 in Batting powerplays!

    Get Yousuf or Irfan in, Jadeja can work hard in domestic cricket & we might see him coming back after a year or two as a better cricketer, but for World cup definitely not.

  • Avaya on August 24, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    Hi, I am extreamly happy about the opinion of our public but unfortunately selector should understand this.

    Mr. Dhoni please remove Jadeja and bring back Irfan/Yousuf for your all rounder place because no .7 is a kind of place where u should have hitting capabilities because max. time u will find less ball and more run in this positioon and jadeja can not do that I am completely agree with all the comments given by people here so what ever misunderstanding u have with irfan just forget it bring back him.

    Last but not the least Mr. Srikanth should understand this.

    Jay HO India.

  • Asif on August 24, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    Jadeja out Utappa in and Ishant out and Irfan in

  • Tejbir on August 24, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    MY TOP 11... 1 Sehwag 2 Gambhir 3 Dhoni 4 Sachin 5 Yuvi 6 Raina 7 Yusuf Pathan 8 Irfan Pathan 9 Harbhajan 10Parveen Kumar 11Zaheer Khan Reserve: Ashish Nehra,Ishant Sharma, Sreesanth,Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli

  • shafeer on August 24, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    hi everybody,following ur comment, y sourav thiwari in the team,even he is not checked at one time.and wot happened to abishek nair, where he vanished?(or make it vanish)and i suggesting to give rest to jadeja,as he playing alot of cricket%%%% and for seven spot sr. pathan will b good considering his spinning ability

  • Abbas on August 24, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    i don't agree with akash, How can you say irfan is not a better bowler than ishant sherma, irfan perform better than ishant in recent matches of IPL, and i dont think irfan need to compare with jadeja , irfan is calssic batsman with good bowling approach, why not selector take irfan as third seamer? i think they deserve a chance in current squad and a place in word cup match (if we need to win word cup)

  • Alwyn George on August 24, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    Its sad to see that India is unable to find a genuine all-rounder for the No.7 position in spite of having a population of around 1.15 billion. I am surprised to see that BCCI cannot find even one single quality bowler in the whole of India who could create fear in the minds of batsman worldwide.I too agree with the fact that what the first six batsmen did not deliver,cannot be delivered by the 7th batsman alone,especially one who has been so shaky for a long time.I would like to go ahead with a fifth bowler for that spot. Bowling has been a weakness in our side since long and it seems Batting is also catching up with it in recent times.A fifth bowler could lend more support to the bowling and hence towards the team and it may be him that would come more useful than a seventh batsman. lso,why isn't Robin Uthappa not given a chance? Sharma, Kohli and Jadeja have been given lots of opportunities which they havent yet made use of.Stop petty politics BCCI and be professional in selections!

  • T. Varghese on August 24, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    If we Ravindra Jadeja as an all-ronder, what we will call Kapil Dev, Imran Khan,Flintoff,Kalis etc

  • manoj singh tomar on August 24, 2010, 5:34 GMT

    bring robbie in the side..he is the best match finisher we hv at present..yuvi n veeru cn share 10 ovrs b/w them..jadega is unlucky for india..he lost the match for india against australia and wasted sachin's marvellous effort of 175..

  • manoj singh tomar on August 24, 2010, 5:33 GMT

    bring robbie in the side..he is the best match finisher we hv at present..yuvi n veeru cn share 10 ovrs b/w them..jadega is unlucky for india..he lost the match for india against australia and wasted sachin's marvellous effort of 175..

  • T.Varghese on August 24, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Akash u must be kidding. He serves India just as an ordinary fielder. Jadeja is not having the caliber to bat even in Indian pitches. Most leading consistent non performer along with Rohit and Kartik. U r thinking that bowling economy rate of 5 is good enough to keep his position. Such a case India don’t need an All rounder, Include a specialist batsman, Sehwag, Yuvraj and Raina together can bowl the 10 overs. Can u mention one of his performance which is countable. Anyone can bat the way he batted in the HYD ODI (scahin’s 175 match). Calling him an all rounder is a national shame.

  • Anonymous on August 24, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    Forget about Jadeja.. Give chances to Ashwin who can prove as an allrounder.

  • Nilesh on August 24, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    Dhoni is ideal #7 for india. he can hit or graft as per situation. he is also good finisher.

    You can also look at other options (specially from ICL family) like R. satish or give kartik a chance at number 6 or 7.

  • ilyas moin on August 24, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    Aakash..you have surely lost it!! Putting Jadeja as the best option over much better players waiting in the wings? My feeling is that either of the Pathans or even Ashwin, are a much better selection. Jadeja is still young and if he wants to represent India in the future, has a lot of work to do...certainly not in the World Cup 2011.Srikkanth and Dhoni have some (ulterior?) motive in keeping Jadeja in...someone please tell me what !!

  • thiru on August 24, 2010, 4:14 GMT

    Jadeja is dont know how to bat, in my view harbajan and praveen are for more better than him in the sense of batting. I dont know why the selection committee is choosing him for the place @7. They can use any batsman in the place. Because we are only targeting the world cup as of now. In india any part time bowlers can bowl better than jadeja. So no need to think about him and choose some one else know how to bat or how to rotate the singles for support. Jadeja is only the domestic player don’t think got the talent that much for the international.

  • Anonymous on August 24, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    You said this Akash, "So now the toss-up is between Yusuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja. Ideally the No. 7 batsman should be a big hitter who could hit sixes at ease and going by that criterion Pathan Sr. fits the bill perfectly. And that’s why the selectors put him on trial initially but his inability to hit consistently and more importantly his inability to bowl 7-8 overs on a regular basis cost him his place in the side."... Do you really think Yusuf got his chance to show what he can in ODI s??. He is probably the only one player who can take a game away or win it out with his bat among present players.. and we are wasting it with Jadeja !. It is a shame that the selectors are still giving Jadeja the chance on something he doesn't deserve...

  • atultilak on August 24, 2010, 3:19 GMT

    Jadeja & Pathan siblings all are useless for No.7 spot..Everybody got decent chances, fair enough runs; but none delivered...It's time to abolish the concept of such bits n' pieces player in the name of allrounder...Change the team combination for god's sake... Top 6 are completely irreplaceable except for injury & every one can be a matchwinner on his day..At least from potential perspective, we can say that...But same is not true for spots 7 to 11 & hence we should not have a pure batsman at this spot at any cost...A pure bowler might do...Bring Bhajji at 7 & ask to take some serious responsibility with bat now that he is a senior member...And get Ojha/Chawla inside playing 11 which will definitely bolster bowling...6 batsmen & 5 bowlers is right combination

  • Swami on August 24, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    Sorry Akash - your articles are usually very insightful but you have got it wrong this time - Jadeja doesn't make the cut. We need match winners. And Irfan has at least proven that he can be a match winner (even after his bowling has declined. E.g. 2007 T20 World Cup and Perth test victory). Given the lack of allrounders in our country Irfan is the best bet. If it is a good batting wicket, then we should have the guts to go for 5 bowlers. Maybe pick Umesh Yadav or Ashwin depending on the pitch. I am surprised our batting line-up always needs insurance at No.7. If you notice India's recent one day record, there are not many close run chases - either we win comfortably or lose comfortably. So why do we need a silly player like Jadeja?

  • Balumekka on August 24, 2010, 3:16 GMT

    Its very handy to have a medium pacer all rounder for that place. Irfan is the best available choice for India. Sri Lanka also had this problem since long time, but Mahroof and Tisara Perera nicely fitted to the place. Angelo is a batting allrounder. So having both batting and bowling allrounders (both medium pacers)will be very handy to hve. India had Kapil Dev as a Bowling allrounder, and later had Manoj Prabakar as a batting alrounder. Its high time for India to have two types of medium pacer allrounders.

  • saurabh on August 24, 2010, 2:34 GMT

    As so many comments have pointed out.. CHUCK JADEJA OUT OF THE TEAM, IT'S A NO BRAINER.

    Had he been working in a corporate structure he would have been demoted, based on the performances of the last 2 years, instead here he is reaping the fruits of being pally with dhoni

  • Danish on August 24, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    I can see you have used elimination theory to include Jadeja.Lets go by your way.But the rule will be different.we start with jadeja.Lets count when he has won the match for us.i cant remember.Oh my god,a player who plays at the position where he should be a constant winner has never won a match.so i will first eliminate jadeja.Then we should think of other options.I rate irfan pathan better than yusuf.But considering the indian conditions selectors should better know who should play .

  • Jai on August 24, 2010, 1:33 GMT

    I think Robin Uthappa at number 7 could act as a match winner. A Quick 30 or 40 off the bat could easily change the game.

  • ASHRAF AHMED on August 24, 2010, 1:25 GMT

    Mr.Akash Chopra most of us do not agree with the idea of carrying on Ravindra jadeja. He dont have enough talent with the bat. He cannot knock off the runs quickly when the situation demands neither batting first nor chasing a target. As far as his bowling is concerned we agree that he is good. Even sehwag can bowl. and if I am not wrong Sehwag was considered as the only genuine off spinner by one of the spin greats recently. We need either yousuf or Irfan to do the job at number 7. As we are discussing the batting spot it should go to a player who can bat.

  • Stephen on August 23, 2010, 22:00 GMT

    Its 4 the selectors n Dhoni. Team for world cup 2011 . Sehwag,Dhoni,Sachin,Gambhir,Raina,Yuvraj,Zaheer,Harbhajan,Nehra,Praveen,Virat,Ojha,Yusuf,Sreesanth,Karthik,Rohit/Saurabh Tiwary. Plz take it seriously and don't disbalance the team by taking Ravindra Jadeja.

  • Ankur Sharma on August 23, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    I think if Jadeja playes in the 11, he should bat after Harbajan Singh. Jadeja is the perfect Number 8. Number 7 is too high for him. To be successful as a batsman, you either need to have a good technique like Dravid or innovative strokes like Moin Khan or Ajay Jadeja not Ravinder Jadeja. Unfortunately Jadeja has none. I am sorry Akash. If you read the comments of all the people who have written or commented on your article, no one agrees with you.

  • Bis on August 23, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    I agree with @Satish. Concentrate on picking the finest 5 batsmen in India (Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar and two others), then Dhoni at 6 and then pick your 5 most potent bowlers (sorry Praveen Kumar is not one of the 5 most potent bowlers in India - or if he is, we are in trouble!). A batting top 6 of this callibre should be able to hold its own on Indian pitches and to handle the pressures of a world cup - no need for a bits-and-pieces clowns like Jadeja.

  • Harpreetsingh on August 23, 2010, 21:06 GMT

    I think irfan is better than all.Because he can bat at any number & ofcourse he is very good bowler who can bowl 7-8 overs easily.

  • Srinivasan on August 23, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    Anybody except Ravindra Jadeja would do? this guy would not make to any international team and should not be in the Indain Team too! Irfan Pathan is head and shoulders above him. As simple as that!

  • Pradeep Bharadwaj on August 23, 2010, 20:23 GMT

    Jadeja is no more than a pie-chucker. Calling him as a spinning allrounder is a big joke. Say, if Jadeja according to his economy rate of around 5 gives about 50 runs in every match, we should not be having problem with Irfan who when having bad times will go for 5 or 10 more runs than that. But atleast we will be having hope that this guy can score that many extra runs when his chance comes when batting. There is no hope left when jadeja is batting. Also Yusuf fares better than Jadeja, because he has already proven that he is a match winner. Though he is not consistent, No 7 position is not for consistency. No. 7 is required probably 2-3 times in 10 matches. If he cannot perform during that time, then what is the point. No. 7 should be more like a insurance rather than like a salary. I am sure that we can manage 10 overs between Yuvaraj, Sehwag and Raina consistently in subcontinent conditions. We can also try with Robin Uthappa @ No. 7 position. Hope selectors are hearing this.

  • Nampally on August 23, 2010, 19:37 GMT

    Let us totally rule out Jadeja & Pathans. Can we not consider Yuvraj at #7 as a powerful bat & a left arm spinner. Team Line up: Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir,Dravid, Raina,Dhoni & Yuvraj + 4 bowlers - such as Zaheer, Nehra, Ishant and Harbhajan or Ashwin or M.Kartik. Yuvraj at #7 will be more effective than at #5. If either Zaheer or Nehra are unfit bring in Mithun, who is also a good bat. This gives at least 6 great batsmen + WK/batsmen + 3 pace bowlers & at least 3 spinners (if Sehwag & Yuvraj are used). I personally feel that #7 position is being over played. It is critical to have 4 bowlers who can bowl at the rate of < 4 runs/over. In Form Harbhajan can do it. Can the 3 pace bowlers do the same? Yuvraj , Sehwag (& Raina) can share 10 overs and must keep it to <5 runs/over. This will give a total of 210 runs to chase and with 7 batsmen this is achievable.India's top 4 are the best in the world and they must produce consistently. This is absolutely crucial - no excuses of spongy wkts!

  • Ranga on August 23, 2010, 19:10 GMT

    Jadeja is one of those players who do definetely do not deserve a place in the Indian team. Leave the Indian team, this guy does not deserve to be in Rajasthan Royals for his greed.Also, you seem to be so preoccupied with the fact that his bowling economic rate is good, but what about his batting, it SUCKS!!! in plain words.

    Have four specialist bowlers like Nehra, Zaheer, Bhajji and Praveen kumar. Rotate the remaining 10 overs amongst Sehwag, Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Rohit and Raina.

    We need to have quality batsman like Rohit, Raina in the team. Virat is OK, but his consistency is not as good as Raina or Rohit. Rohit has his own share of problems like body fitness and attitude but any given day he is better than Virat. Just consider one question, how many games did Rohit win for his team (either IPL or Indian XI ) and how many did Virat win??

    My playing XI are 1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Gambhir 4) Rohit 5) Yuvraj 6) Dhoni 7) Raina 8) Harbhajan 9) Praveen Kumar 10)Zaheer 11) Nehra 12) Virat?

  • Ranga on August 23, 2010, 19:10 GMT

    Jadeja is one of those players who do definetely do not deserve a place in the Indian team. Leave the Indian team, this guy does not deserve to be in Rajasthan Royals for his greed.Also, you seem to be so preoccupied with the fact that his bowling economic rate is good, but what about his batting, it SUCKS!!! in plain words.

    Have four specialist bowlers like Nehra, Zaheer, Bhajji and Praveen kumar. Rotate the remaining 10 overs amongst Sehwag, Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Rohit and Raina.

    We need to have quality batsman like Rohit, Raina in the team. Virat is OK, but his consistency is not as good as Raina or Rohit. Rohit has his own share of problems like body fitness and attitude but any given day he is better than Virat. Just consider one question, how many games did Rohit win for his team (either IPL or Indian XI ) and how many did Virat win??

    My playing XI are 1) Sehwag 2) Sachin 3) Gambhir 4) Rohit 5) Yuvraj 6) Dhoni 7) Raina 8) Harbhajan 9) Praveen Kumar 10)Zaheer 11) Nehra 12) Virat?

  • kan on August 23, 2010, 18:47 GMT

    Askash,i don't agree with you one bit. jadeja is too poor a batsman to bat at no. 7, he is doing good job with the ball fair enough, but his this batting ability he can not be called a allrounder, better to call him a specialist bowler, so let him fight with bhajji for one specialist spinners place in the side. so i would play rohit sharma at 7 and jadeja or bhajji at 8

  • Kushagra on August 23, 2010, 18:40 GMT

    Why not play 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers? Because in those 6 batsmen we have bowlers like Sehwag and Yuvi who can share the 10 over quota and in those 5 bowlers we have batsmen like Bhaji and Zaheer who can swing the bat as well. So this 7th down player thing is all gimmick and not necessary...

  • Manasvi on August 23, 2010, 18:09 GMT

    Well, one of the arguments you give against Irfan is that he would need to bowl his full quota of 10 overs on the subcontinent. Not so! With Zaheer and Nehra/Praveen around and 2 spinners he would need to bowl around 6-7 overs per match. The remaining 5 overs or so would be bowled by either Sehwag or Yuvraj or Raina. Thus, Irfan is still a good option. But, my belief is that Nayar is the best man. A powerful left handed batsmen who has a bit of the Klusener in him. He can also rotate the strike and more importantly hit long and hit hard. His bowling is not great but he can bowl those 6-7 overs. Given that India's strength is batting and we have enough part-timers what India needs is a batting allrounder. As a last resort one can go with a batsman who bowls part-time such as Rohit or Kohli. These are my favs: 1) I. Pathan 2) A. Nayar 3) V. Kohli

  • shaizan on August 23, 2010, 17:36 GMT

    we have got to win this cup, for the sake of sachin ...my ideal World Cup 11 .... 1- SEHWAG, 2- SACHIN, 3- GAMBHIR, 4- YUVRAJ, 5- RAINA, 6- DHONI, 7- UTHAPPA, 8- IRFAN, 9- HARBHAJAN, 10- ZAHEER/SREESANTH, 11- NEHRA/PRAVEEN, 12TH- ISHANT.

  • thilak on August 23, 2010, 17:21 GMT

    I am not satisfied with ravindra jadeja at the number 7 spot.most of the batsmen in the world at this spot are very good hitters,this is very important for a team chasing big targets.But INDIA is missing that.But analysing him as an allrounder he is more good at bowling not in batting .After Dhoni there is no one to build steady innings. so he should concentrate more on his batting .india should look after this for the betterment of the world cup.Alternately we cant rely on yusuf also. He is finding difficult to adjust his batting on a tougher situation.I think Irfan is a better choice at the no.7 spot.But i dont know about his current form.He should be given chance for the forthcoming matches against Aussies.Rohit sharma is not good at the no.3 spot.A batsmen coming at the no.3 should not build pressure .But Rohit is doing that.Raina should be moved up the order .So many options available for India like Uthappa and so on.

  • D.Pramod on August 23, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    Akash, I follow your logic: decide with a No.7 and provide him with sufficient opportunities.

    However RogerC's succinctly put comments (both well expressed and having cricketing merit; how I wish we could see more such like these rather than the morons who infest the Comments pages) - I agree with him especially with regard to Jadeja's demeanour and the five-bowler theory - find glaring loopholes in your logic.

    But all is not lost for Jadeja; although he is not really a limited overs all-rounder he has the ability and he should be fighting it out for a spinner's spot.

  • Raj on August 23, 2010, 16:52 GMT

    India needs a genuine match winner @ 7 , n by no means does jadeja fit into tat role.if not the pathans then atleast bring in some fresh blood,just cant have jadeja anymore...noway...

  • Rohan Prabhudesai on August 23, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    Try Robin Uthappa!

  • Mohsin on August 23, 2010, 16:38 GMT

    I think none of jadeja, irfan or yousaf qualifies to be called an allrounder because an allrounder should be a confident choice in batting or bowling and should have the ability to deliver in the other . India is better off searching for a genuine all rounder

  • srikanth on August 23, 2010, 15:46 GMT

    give atleast one chance to Irfan... Because yusaf can not play the short pitch balls and jadeja can not handle the pressure..

  • Saif on August 23, 2010, 15:46 GMT

    is this article meant to put an end to the debate of all-rounder that an Indian team needs? ohh cumon, v were havin a good healthy debate over the issue:) thoh all in vain:)

    the point is not abt havin Jadeja in the side or no, the point is why havent the domestic system of India produced a couple more like Kapel Dev:) his arrival n, the eventual, departure shud had herald a new beginnin:) bt his retirement was kinda an end of an era n no1 afta that followed:)

    i might agree with Akash that the Indian team have to content with Jadeja for the time-bein, bt lets not use this article to get laid back n not worry ne more abt allrounders. Outside subcontinent, Jadeja might it difficult. n Jadeja's inability to play in tight situation cud cum baq to haunt the Indian teams, esp in tight tournaments like World Cup.

  • dil on August 23, 2010, 15:39 GMT

    india wants a mathews or tisara like allrounder

  • Mani on August 23, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    The BCCI should make Yusuf Pathan bat at the nets and get fast bowlers to bowl at him from 18 yards with lots of bouncers. He should do this everyday for 1 hour for the next 6 months. He will become a matchwinning batsman against any team and then he can bowl the 10 over quota with Yuvi and Sehwag. Bye bye Jadeja and Irfan, see you later, problem solved.

  • Anonymous on August 23, 2010, 15:29 GMT

    hmm...I guess akash has a point here. it is a case of choosing the lesser evil...which between the pathan bros & jadeja, the latter is the most steady option, steady being the operating word here.

    on an unrelated note, why is robin uthappa off the radar? Use him as the backup keeper instead of the useless dinesh karthik (this is a standby role anyway). More importantly, he brings in the much needed X factor with the bat, which the team is lacking currently.

  • joseph on August 23, 2010, 15:14 GMT

    Of course Jadeja was ecnomical once upon a time,but now he has lost that confidence. The best one would be Irfan pathan as India has already many part time spin bowlers.

  • Vijay on August 23, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    It's FUNNY to read that since Jadeja is the only option left ..he is the best option ....

    How many potential players were given the opportunity ...??

    Please let me know how many of these players were given the opportunity (the way it was given to the likes of jaadeja's, kohli's and sharma's) ...

    SPINNERS: 1. Ambati Rayudu (Very Good Batsmen, Bowls Offbreak and Decent Keeper) 2. R Ashwin (Good Offbreak bowler and surely bats better than Jadeja) 3. Ali Murtaza 4.AA Jhunjhunwala

    MEDIUM PACERS: 1.Irfan Pathan (deserves a one more chance) 2.Abhishek Nayar 3.YA Abdulla 4.VS Malik 5.Kamran Khan 6.SK Trivedi

    Largely it's a true statement that "WC will be played in subcontinent and it favours the spinners more as compared to seamers don't forget what is happening Dambulla,SL ...where India had 2 worst defeat in less than a week's time...also there are pitches in India which do favour the seamers as well...

  • asjad ali on August 23, 2010, 14:58 GMT

    Yusuf pathan is a better bet naturally. he was thrown out of the squad when he was batting with consistent knocks of 40s and 50+ in the Zimbabwe's series. God knows whats up with indian selectors to drop him down when he started to give contributions with dat.. everybody knows his performances in all the IPL.. we need a destructive batsman like him in the team.. who is as good a fielder as jadeja is and a reasonably good bowler and definately twice a better batsman than jadeja. he is my bet for the team and definitely in the world cup played in subcontinent where the ball wont bounce much and spinnners will operate.. coz he can be a devil for spinners anyday anytime.

  • Karthik on August 23, 2010, 14:58 GMT

    I don't think Jadeja has fared well. In my opinion, The best eleven for the world cup would be - Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvi, Dhoni, Raina, Irfan/Yusuf Pathan, Bhajji, Zaheer, Praveen and Nehra. This will mean that we have 4 Specialist bowlers(The last 4). One bowler who cannot be considered a specialist but is capable of bowling atleast 5 to 6 decent overs. Remaining overs can be bowled by Sehwag, Raina and Yuvi. And we need to keep in mind the fact that Bhajji can bat as well. Hence Irfan/Yusuf + Bhajji at 7 and 8 will definitely do well than Jadeja does at 7. All three are big hitters. Thats what you want at 7. This line up can also be helpful when one of the specialist bowlers fail to deliver, as we have an extra option in the bowling department.

  • Vivek on August 23, 2010, 14:50 GMT

    I do not understand the logic of picking Jadeja in the very first place.He cannot bat & his bowling is restrictive at best.His fielding is OK.Yusuf Pathan is a better bat and a decent bowler.Irfan can also be tried but he would need a helpful surface and a captain who has faith in him.

  • preetam on August 23, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    OMG i just realised reading at AJBER's comments. just imagine having an indian bowling with this combination Zaheer, Nehra, Ishant, irfan and harbajan : am for it any day.

    and batting tendulkar, sehwag gambir, raina, dohni, and yuvi.

    so with this combination, assuming that all fire on the same day, we have zaheer, nehra, ishant, irfan, harbajan, sehwag, raina, and yuvi, : 80 overs. am sure dhoni can extract atleast 50 overs of 8 available options, who are outstanding

    come on for heavens sake, not jadeja

  • Sageerpc@gmail.Com on August 23, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    Must including pathan brothers in world cup squad

  • Srinath K L on August 23, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    I dont know why every one has forgotten Irfan Pathan. No other way one can replace him, he has the talent & the guts to bat at No.7. He should be given the choice & I think he will be more successful than the others, given that he would have learnt from his earlier mistakes.

  • Srinivas on August 23, 2010, 14:15 GMT

    If India is looking for 2011 world cup Indian cricket surely required another mister dependable like Dravid. If we observe the current indian domestic cricket Cheteswara pujara is one such. He is consistently performing with lots of runs to his belt. Also kohli should get more chances ahead of rohit sharma before the worldcup campign begins. He can develop him self as a batsmen who can bowl medium pace with speed 115-120km. if we see him in the last few serises he was getting some swing in his bowling. For bowling department if indian team looks for fast bowling all-rounders team has to shine praveen kumar, irfan pathan and ajit agarkar. Ajit is consistently performing in the last 2 ranji seasons equally with bat and bowl. He averaged 40+ in his batting and taking wickets at good average. For spinning allrounders jadeja,ashwin and yusuf has to improve their batting skills. The way ashwin is performing with bat and bowl in domestic cricket is good.Sure we can see him as allrounder soon

  • Syed on August 23, 2010, 14:06 GMT

    Praveen and Harbhajan are better batsmen than Jadeja. It is really irritating if some one calls jadeja as an all rounder. Forget about his performances for indian team ..i doubt his selection..I really dono what promised the selectors.. And coming back to squad..having faced 2 of the heaviest defeats in one week we certainly need to introspect.. Pls get back to Dravid.. My 11 would be Sachin Sehwag Gambhir/Raina Yuvraj Dravid/Raina Dhoni Y Pathan /I pthan Harbhajan SIngh Zaheerkhan Nehra/Praveen Ishant Sharma

  • albert on August 23, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    While I am not too familiar with the intricacies of the domestic Indian Cricket situation, I firmly believe that Robin Utappa is being overlooked-he seems to be a versitile cricketer for India (explosive batsman/wicketkeeper/reasonable fielder). This young man should be given to understudy Tendulkar and Dravid begore they finally depart from the scene. Incidentally what has happened to Mahammad Kaif?

  • Nampally on August 23, 2010, 13:37 GMT

    Akash, The # 7 spot is typically for an all rounder who is strong in both batting & bowling.If one is not available fill it with a bowler or a bat. Jadeja does not fit the role & does not deserve a place in 11. India has Yuvraj bowling left arm spinners identical to that of Jadeja. When you add Ojha on top of this we have 3 bowlers doing the same job. In addition Sehwag & Raina can bowl good off spinners. So there are plenty of spin.On the other hand India does not have enough pace bowling. Ishant Sharma at age 22, is genuine pace bowler (>135KPH) if he controls his length & direction.Unadkat (18) and Mithun (20) are other 2 youngsters who need to be developed. Of these 3, Mithun is a good bat & can be developed into the #7 spot with proper coaching. India needs a pace bowler at #7 spot, who can bowl 10 overs & can bat.Zaheer & Nehra are both getting old & injury prone. Kumar & Irfan pathan cannot be termed as pace bowlers.Harmeet Singh(20) is the 4th pace bowler.Focus on future.

  • Kailash on August 23, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    LOL! He's doing just fine? Has he even tried doing anything?

  • Blue all the way on August 23, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Problem with many here is,the moment some one fails we gonna choke him so hard by our criticism that he can't rebound and play his regular cricket.Im not supporting Jadeja here but what Akash cites is absolutely correct.Irfan got many more opportunities than Jadeja did, but what did he do? He is still out and just because he swung his bat in some stupid T20I's doesn't mean he can really be better option.Again, looking at Jadeja bat,I guess Jadeja is not at all an OPTION but personally some where I feel Jadeja doesn't have confidence to answer his critics and it's better to get him out atleast for a while so that he could gain his confidence, remember he is still an Young cricketer.Yousof gotta be better choice just because he can be a threat to an opposition as every one knows 9 out of 10 times he might fail but every opposition doesn't want to be that 10th team where he succeeds. Also,I strongly believe it's high time that MSD should give guys like Yuvraj, Sehwag, Raina, Rohit a bowl.

  • Soumya Das gupta on August 23, 2010, 13:19 GMT

    How about a new name? Laxmi Ratan Shukla. Electirc in the field, very skillful batsman capable of hitting bix sixes and graft what the situation demands. Bowling wise he brings a different type of option of medium with variations in pace.He is a cricketer who plays with a lot of passion and is vastly experienced. Agreed he doesnt have the level of domestic performances which are required to get into the national side but considering the doldrums for the number 7 spot I think it is a gamble worth taking. Do expect a lot of reactions to this:-)

  • Jagu Rao on August 23, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    Aakash, you have got it completely wrong. Jadeja should not be in the team leave alone at No. 7. He has proven time and again to be a liability. Also Rohit has been given enough chances - he has proved to be an unfit cricketer who thinks talent alone can take him through. He should be shown the door and Pujara or Dravid should be brought in. We are 5 month away from the world cup and still dont have a nucleus of the team. I feel the selectors are to be blamed by not having a core group functioning well.

  • Karthik on August 23, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    I don't think Jadeja is doing a fair job. In my opinion, the best eleven for this world cup would be : Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Raina, Yusuf or Irfan, Bhajji, Zaheer, Praveen and Nehra. This line up has 4 specialist bowlers - Bhajji, Zaheer, Praveen and Nehra. One bowler who is not a specialist but can get through with at least 5 or 6 overs. Remaining overs can be bowled by Sehwag, Yuvraj and Raina. Also, We are missing the fact that Bhajji can bat. So i think, Yusuf/Irfan + Bhajji can compensate for the 7th batsman we are looking for. This line up can help even when one of our specialist bowlers fail to deliver because we have an extra option in bowling department which we'll not have when the player at 7 is a pure bat.

  • Arun on August 23, 2010, 12:45 GMT

    Jadeja doesn't deserve a place in squad even. How can be a all rounder at No.7. Bring back Pathan brothers. They can win the matches for India. Else bring in Uthappa. Dhoni can give him the gloves ad he can start rolling his arms. Wont be bad if he bowls 6 to 7 overs and sehwag, raina can bowl the remaining.Uthappa has started practising keeping in nets and he has kept for Royal challengers in IPL too. He can be at No.7. He can be a match winner. He can be a pinch hitter.Either Pathan brothers or Uthappa should be at No.7. R.Sharma, Jadeja, Karthik, Vijay doesn't deserve place in squad after their repeated failures. Srikanth please wake up. Its high time to decide and act as we have only 6 months for world cup.

  • Sharad on August 23, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    Akash - you must be joking ! Jadeja has flattered to deceive !! Since we lack a genueine all-rounder, we can go in for 4 regular bowlers and use Sehwag, Raina and Yuvi to fill in for the 5th bowler. Also, I would like to see Robin Uthappa back in the side in place of Dinesh Karthik and should play in place of Virat in the eleven. My playing XI for the World Cup (assuming all are fit) - Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvi, Raina, Uthappa, Dhoni, Harbhajan / Ashwin, Praveen, Zaheer, Nehra / Sreeshanth

  • Ravishankar on August 23, 2010, 12:01 GMT

    Jadeja doesn't warrant any selection just on the basis of being able to hold the bat and spin his arm over. I think we have enough people who can roll their hands over like Sehwag, Yuvraj, Rohit and Raina. So, We need someone who can be consistent to whatever extent the No7 can be and also be able to bowl a decent enough line/length in ODI's. We need to scout for such individuals rather than resigning and accepting what we get. Irfan is a good bet, but I'm sure there must be others as well.

  • Ashwin on August 23, 2010, 11:49 GMT

    I totally disagree with your view. What you are looking at jadeja as a No 7 batsman is one who inspires zero confidence and scores consistently low scores and at an excruciating pace and always at a lost cause. Tell me one innings wen he has scored the winning runs. Do not go for bits and pieces cricketer when you are playin to ur strength. India s always batsman dominated and with sehwag, sachin, raina and yuvi to bowl 10 overs its is only too natural to have an extra batsman who s attacking at No7 and who can be promoted up the order on demand. jadeja can never be promoted and at the time he comes to play all is always not well and his utility is zero as a batsman.

  • cool man on August 23, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    only irfan is the good alrounder after kapil dev no one is as good as this player.jadeja does not desesrve in the india team he only know to ball rather than to bat. His batting is like 11player in the team who onlys now to ball rather to bat.

  • Nilesh on August 23, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    Jadeja...with a batting avg of 31..true..but has a single run scored of his bat,won any game???....We don't need a grafter at no.7...the debate ends there. I agree he is a decent bowler but we have better bowlers than him in the country....Irfan, by far is the best all-rounder in the country..... Sure, he's bowling has lost edge. But, how can you ignore a person with 150 ODI wkts(at under 30/wkt) and 5 fifties over another with lesser exp, lesser stats, lesser talents. If you need a all-rounder @no.7, then it has to be Irfan at present.O'wise go for a specialist batsman or bowler. Jadeja is a strictly domestic player who can never be successful at International arena.

  • Anonymous on August 23, 2010, 10:52 GMT

    Totally meaningless reasoning. Dada went in with 7 batsmen and just how did it pay! For over a year, India hardly lost matches on pitches except for NZ wickets which were anyway tailor-made.

    Dhoni got to trust Yuvi, Sehwag and Raina for 10 overs. Kohli should be the last man to enter. Dhoni should push himself at 7, but can move up or down depending on the circumstances.

  • Syed Tanwir Habib on August 23, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    as the world cup is going to be held in the subcontinent, Jadeja is the right choice. for that position we have only two choices right now:pathan and jadeja... pathan may be a touch ahead in terms of batting but in the other two fields jadeja scores...so i guess jadeja will be a better option. hence he should be allowed to complete his full quota of overs more often than not and may be sometimes use him as a pinch-hitter so that his confidence grows in both the departments.

  • Arjun on August 23, 2010, 10:19 GMT

    It should be noted that we have yuvraj, raina, viru to bowl some spin apart from the specialist spinner. And jadeja at no.7 is not happening, we cannot bank on him to win close games when the req. rate is above 6. Irfan Pathan would be ideal, yes his bowling is an issue but his role in the T20 world cup in 2007 was ideal, where he came on in the middle overs with the keeper upto the stumps.

    Bring back Irfan!!!

  • manish on August 23, 2010, 10:02 GMT

    first thing first what is the role of jadeja in the team...a bowler or an al rounder..he is no way close to being called as a batsman...now if we are playing him as a bowler i would suggest a more complete bowler who will not depend on batsman mistake to get the wicket rather he will be more attacking option...secondely if he is playin as an all rounder again i can`t understand tha logic..a no 7 batsman should be able to clear the ground at ease as well as rotate the strike easily and he can do neither of these two...see we can`t wait for 20 match to perform jadeja once..there are enough partimers like yuvraj, sehwag who can roll their hands and are better option then jadeja...so as quickly we can get rid of him as quickly the team stabilises...in stead of him we can play one more partimer or a bowler who surrentely will give edge to team india... i know a beggar can`t be choser..and we are like beggar for allrounder...but there are certailnly good options available...

  • Sumeet on August 23, 2010, 10:01 GMT

    The larger question to ask is: Who in the current Indian team deserves their place? Sehwag, Sachin, Gambhir, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Raina (when all of them are fit). Who will make up the remaining 4 places is the critical question. And who will be a great back up batsman and quick bowler if someone from among the 7 gets injured? When most countries have bowlers that can swing a match with a great spell, we are talking about containment. Bowlers need to take wickets. They are not there to not give runs. India's chances for WC11 are looking bleak.

  • Sandip on August 23, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    Yongster have lack of maturity for BIG games and some critical situation of Match ,you dont show good cricket if you do not have maturity of your attitude and self control .

    Since World cup is going to be in Asia this time i think Yousuf Pathan is best option over Jadeja .At last whoever comes at No.7 ,that player has to be member of all recent indian matches before world cup to grow up for BIG trophy matches since you can not emerge player on the day of BIG clash ,there is always maturity of cricket required and this comes with regular play and captain motivation to the Player.

  • Ajber on August 23, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    Irfan is not exactly useless as Kumar in midlle and slog overs. He can do a good job bowling stump to stump and done it fare enough in the last ODIs he played. And when it comes to the combination of bowlers, the role now jadeja playing can easily done by Sewag and Yuvi. If Irfan is playing, India will have Zaheer,Kumar,Nehra and Irfan to manage the pace department with Harbajan handling spinner's role. Since the arrival of t20, any spinner can be hit at any time and teams use more and more medium pacers even in the subcontinent pitches. Irfan is the best option and I totally disagree to Akash's view

  • Aditya on August 23, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    I do not agree with your comments.. the most important aspect of no 7 is big hitting and Jadeja is simply not the one..also we already have so many batsman who can bowl decent spin bowling.. even if one doesnt bowl well Dhoni has other options so we do not need a spinning allrounder.. Irfan has to be there since if you look at stats alone he still has a bowling average of less than 30 and even though his batting average is 23 but we know he can hit out in the latter overs.. so his case is stronger..

  • sundar bala on August 23, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    no.7 position is wasted by jadeja.we can go for another better bowlers

  • Akash on August 23, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Well, Jadeja certainly isn't a big hitter, but the bigger problem that I see with this guy is his seemingly fragile temperament. Have you seen him bat in crunch situations? Just cannot seem to find the boundary when its most needed and more annoyingly, runs like a schoolboy between the wickets! I will never forgive him for the manner in which he ran himself out in that match against Australia where Sachin scored 175 chasing 350-odd and India lost by 3 runs!

    No, I think India's best bet is to play 7 batsmen (including Dhoni of course) and the 4 best bowlers they can find. If the 5th bowler needs to be a spinner, I'm sure Sehwag, Yuvraj, Raina and Rohit Sharma can certainly contribute ten equally good (or bad!) overs that Jadeja can!

  • Gogz on August 23, 2010, 9:07 GMT

    i think it is an extremely bad move to play someone like Ravindra Jadeja at number 7 ( or for that matter at any position).. this guy has got ample opportunities and he has consitantly disappointed... he can't bat for nuts and nor can he set the field on fire with his below average bowling...i wud rather prefer someone like yusuf pathan who has match winning abilities.. he may not click every time, but if clicks he can win matches single handedly... i feel sorry for players like saurabh tiwary and pujara who are made to sit out (rather sacrifice their place) for non performer like jadeja.. i feel jadeda shud give up his place to someone more worthy, coz selectors are turning a blind eye on his failures.. he is the only non performer whose place is cemented by the selectors.. dont know whats the reason for it...

  • Natwar Modani on August 23, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Good to see a sensible analysis. People have been harping about Pathan's without realizing that they have been given fair chance, and that they have failed. In fact, I think if the team is not happy with Jadeja's batting, he should still be the second spinner in the squad (behind Harbhajan, mainly due to his past record).

  • Gaurav on August 23, 2010, 8:46 GMT

    Akash - What you seem to be forgetting is that a all-rounder above all else has to be a match winner either with the bat or ball but ideally both and Jadeja is neither. Most of his ODI runs which give him a average of 30+ have come in losing causes when game is drifting away and he has hung on to remain not out and not even tried to have a go at the total. His bowling is not even as good as Sehwag's or may be as good as Yuvraj Singh at best. I would go for a specialist, bowler or batsman at no.7 depending upon conditions any day than the options you put forward.

  • Naveen on August 23, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    I feel miserable y d selectors removed d rador out of Yusuf Pathan... With d World Cup scheduled in India, he ll be d best option i could see... Since d opponents cant use d weapon they constantly used against him(Bouncers).... Pathan far better than Jadeja...

  • naman on August 23, 2010, 8:28 GMT

    Akash I was starting to like ur views on cricket but this piece really shatters my opinion. Please explain why we need another spinning allrounder when we have Sehwag, Yuvraj, Rohit, Raina & Tendulkar to bowl 10 overs, if required! Why cant Pathan bowl outside of powerplays and endovers as the FOURTH pace option, no rule saying u can only have Three.

  • Stefan Varughese on August 23, 2010, 8:22 GMT

    Jadeja, doing just fine???U kiddin right? If u only look at his stats then u wont see how misrable he is at batting!! It would be better for us to go with an extra batsman to strenghten our bating more.

  • harsh on August 23, 2010, 8:05 GMT

    Again the old India fallacy of going for quantity instead of quality. You have 6 world class batsmen and still you worry about the 7th rather than going for a genuine fifth bowler? Bowling is India's real worry as the focus seems to be on containment than attack by going for part-time bowlers like Yuvraaz and Rainas.

    My selection will have 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers. 1.Viru 2.Gambeir 3.Raina 4.Sacin 5.Yuvy 6.Donny 7.Zakker 8.Nehru 9.Yadav 10.Misra 11.Oza/ Chawla/ Pravin depending on wicket

    - Sacin will come at 4 to control the middle overs - No Bhajji because he cannot get wickets to stop the flow of runs - If a bowler gets hit then Sehwag can bowl a few but this should not become a rule, let the bowlers show what they can do. - Yadav will have to bowl fast in the middle overs, I don't want medium pace.

    Those who are still fearful about the batting, if your 6 batsmen fail then the only person who can save you is not the 7th batsman, it will be 5th bowler.

  • Pradish on August 23, 2010, 7:53 GMT

    One Question I have is like Pathan Sr , Jadeja also has not performed ? So how will he become the best option ..

  • Karthik on August 23, 2010, 7:36 GMT

    Brilliant points Aakash ! The guy is a genuine talent..Just that he doesnt play attractive cricket does not mean that he is not effective.He needs to improve his batting under pressure circumstances and focus on the mental aspect.He is a superb bowler in ODI's.People often make him the scape goat!!

  • pashi on August 23, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    no this is not a best selection.i think the best choice should be Irfan Pathan only. Irafan Pathan hit the ball any position. or you can use to Irfan pathan any number depand on match position.

  • kalim ahmad , QATAR on August 23, 2010, 7:11 GMT

    i read your view and i would like to say that your view is completely with jadeja and against with pathan brothers,why i dont know.In my view pathan junior is the best allrounder for our world cup compaign.why you are supporting jadeja who wait for his one wicket to 6-10 matches in cost of average 7 run per over and for batting ability of jadeja i have no words.

    If india want something from world cup then the following three players ,i dont want to see them in team..... 1.RAVINDRA JADEJA 2.DINESH KARTHIK 3.ROHIT SHARMA

  • Devendra on August 23, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    Irfan Pathan or Yusuf Pathan can be the best choice for No.7 spot. Else management should tell Virat Kohli to swing his arm more as he does in domestic cricket. We talk about bowling options for India. We have to share only 10 overs and the options available with Dhoni is Sehwag, Yuvraj, Raina, Tendulkar, Kohli.If we have to play with 5th Bowler (7th Spot) then what is the benefit of talking about the bowling options of above mentioned guys. My playing 11 for world cup 2011 is Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Kohli, Harbhajan, Praveen, Zaheer, Nehra. I am strongly against the selection of Karthik, Rohit and Jadeja. These guys have got so much chances but missed every opportunity. Why dont the selectors see the waiting Cheteshwar Pujara in the line and performing very well in domestic and out side India. Devendra

  • sathish on August 23, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    Jadeja brings nothing to the fray with his batting. He can bat, sure, but his batting will never win a match for us. He won't put on the extra 20-30 runs needed when we're batting first, nor will he help us chase down that 20-30 runs when chasing. In short, the match is over when Jadeja comes in.

    So if the batting qualities of #7 are redundant and serve well only on paper, why not play a pure bowler at #7? I think our top 6 are good enough to overcome the inadequacies of a poor #7. And every man and his dog knows that our bowlers could do with all the help they can get.

  • Anonymous on August 23, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    i think yusuf would be a better option...jadeja never scores with bat as required by ano. 7 batsman....remember the world cup s in indian subcontinent...big hitting batsman l b better...kenya series shows yusuf is comning back to form...and he could be send higher up the order according to need..

  • Saugata on August 23, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    I beg to differ on this Akash. Jadeja till now has not given a single match winning performance. At least people like the Pathan bros do offer once in a while flash in a pan performances but I don't consider Jadeja as either a good enough bowler and not at all a limited over batsman. Surely India can produce a more than decent spinning all rounder, who would be better than Jadeja.

  • MARAZBAN GODREJ MERCHANT on August 23, 2010, 6:14 GMT

    Well Ravindra Jadeja downfall started is bcoz of his greediness b4 the third IPL started. Playing for Rajasthan Royals under the guidance of Shane Warne in the first 2IPL, he was taught how to be solid by playing under Shane. But b4 the 3rdIPL he wanted to play for another team for more money. Holding Rajasthan Royals also in his hand and simultaneously looking for another franchise too. Didn't work out. Greediness thwarted him and was not in the 3rdIPL. Ravindra Jadeja is lucky that he got chances after chances in 50overs & T20. But to no avail and on the whole the performance was mediocre. He is not a hard hitter for which a 7 position requires. But simultaneously he should be sidelined too. Yusuf Pathan should be given a node with Irfan Pathan too. These too are solid big hard hitters for these formats and what the no.7 position requires. Sure the Pathan Brothers can fit in any side for in these formats for which this Indian team requires.

  • hussain on August 23, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    He is a loser and India is better off without him. His presence itself brings bad luck to the team.

  • superkid007 on August 23, 2010, 5:50 GMT

    I think Irfan is the best. yusuf is OK .FORGET JADEJA. I dont think the rest of the places r sure. Only dhoni ,sehwag are 100% guaranteed. Rest r not that regular ones. Give Uttappa a chance. why is srikanth so partial to murali vijay -because he is from chennai. If srikanth is in selection panel india will never win the cup.

  • Prasit Bhattacharya on August 23, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    I dont think Jadeja is the right choice, as he does not have good temperament. He cannot perform under pressure with the bat or ball. He does well when the team is doing well and fails otherwise. It is evident from some of his innings where he threw his wicket and was also belted for six. He has a big role to play in India's T20 world cup exit in 2009 and 2010. It has been two years since he has been dissapointing. For me Harbhajan is more effective as a batsman than Jadeja. I would still go with Yusuf as he can turn the heat on with bat and he can definitely bowl 6 overs if not 10. Yuvraj, Sehwag, Raina, Tendulkar all can try as per the situation. Bottomline is Yusuf should be picked as he is talented and has lots of guts and has the ability to change the course of the game.

  • RogerC on August 23, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    Aakash- nicely written. But I disagree with the premise that in the subcontinent, a spinning all rounder is an automatic selection. Also, in general I believe that if the first 6 don't score then the value of having a 7th bat is minimal. If healthy, you wd assume the first 6 in the lineup are Sehwag, Sachin, Gambhir, Yuvi, Dhoni and Raina. Why would you not go for 5 bowlers? Play both Harbhajan and Ojha. And 3 pacers between Zaheer, Nehra, Praveen, Ishant and Sreesanth. And maybe even Ashwin deserves a look in. The issue I have with Jadeja is his general body language and demeanor which inspire zero confidence. When was the last time you saw him in any batting performance, did you honestly feel that the guy would take us to the finish line. All his stats are what i call "useful noise"- there is no value quotient qualifying when and how he performs. Contrast that with the stripes shown by a Raina, Kohli or even a Kaif (albeit 6/7 years ago).

  • vinod on August 23, 2010, 4:51 GMT

    you gotta be joking aakash. perhaps you have sympathy for "jadu" because he is as strokeless as you were. till the time and if we can find a proper allrounder, better to give a long run to likes of kohli, raina, rohit who can bat properly and roll their arms over which would do in sub continent. surely they can't do wrose. playing jadeja is like playing 10 of india vs 12 of opposition. we can't be playing him just becasue he is "suppossed" to be allrounder. my team for world cup: sachin, sehwag, gambhir, yuvi, virat / rohit, dhoni, raina, bhaji, zaheer, praveen and nehra / sreesanth / ohja.

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  • vinod on August 23, 2010, 4:51 GMT

    you gotta be joking aakash. perhaps you have sympathy for "jadu" because he is as strokeless as you were. till the time and if we can find a proper allrounder, better to give a long run to likes of kohli, raina, rohit who can bat properly and roll their arms over which would do in sub continent. surely they can't do wrose. playing jadeja is like playing 10 of india vs 12 of opposition. we can't be playing him just becasue he is "suppossed" to be allrounder. my team for world cup: sachin, sehwag, gambhir, yuvi, virat / rohit, dhoni, raina, bhaji, zaheer, praveen and nehra / sreesanth / ohja.

  • RogerC on August 23, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    Aakash- nicely written. But I disagree with the premise that in the subcontinent, a spinning all rounder is an automatic selection. Also, in general I believe that if the first 6 don't score then the value of having a 7th bat is minimal. If healthy, you wd assume the first 6 in the lineup are Sehwag, Sachin, Gambhir, Yuvi, Dhoni and Raina. Why would you not go for 5 bowlers? Play both Harbhajan and Ojha. And 3 pacers between Zaheer, Nehra, Praveen, Ishant and Sreesanth. And maybe even Ashwin deserves a look in. The issue I have with Jadeja is his general body language and demeanor which inspire zero confidence. When was the last time you saw him in any batting performance, did you honestly feel that the guy would take us to the finish line. All his stats are what i call "useful noise"- there is no value quotient qualifying when and how he performs. Contrast that with the stripes shown by a Raina, Kohli or even a Kaif (albeit 6/7 years ago).

  • Prasit Bhattacharya on August 23, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    I dont think Jadeja is the right choice, as he does not have good temperament. He cannot perform under pressure with the bat or ball. He does well when the team is doing well and fails otherwise. It is evident from some of his innings where he threw his wicket and was also belted for six. He has a big role to play in India's T20 world cup exit in 2009 and 2010. It has been two years since he has been dissapointing. For me Harbhajan is more effective as a batsman than Jadeja. I would still go with Yusuf as he can turn the heat on with bat and he can definitely bowl 6 overs if not 10. Yuvraj, Sehwag, Raina, Tendulkar all can try as per the situation. Bottomline is Yusuf should be picked as he is talented and has lots of guts and has the ability to change the course of the game.

  • superkid007 on August 23, 2010, 5:50 GMT

    I think Irfan is the best. yusuf is OK .FORGET JADEJA. I dont think the rest of the places r sure. Only dhoni ,sehwag are 100% guaranteed. Rest r not that regular ones. Give Uttappa a chance. why is srikanth so partial to murali vijay -because he is from chennai. If srikanth is in selection panel india will never win the cup.

  • hussain on August 23, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    He is a loser and India is better off without him. His presence itself brings bad luck to the team.

  • MARAZBAN GODREJ MERCHANT on August 23, 2010, 6:14 GMT

    Well Ravindra Jadeja downfall started is bcoz of his greediness b4 the third IPL started. Playing for Rajasthan Royals under the guidance of Shane Warne in the first 2IPL, he was taught how to be solid by playing under Shane. But b4 the 3rdIPL he wanted to play for another team for more money. Holding Rajasthan Royals also in his hand and simultaneously looking for another franchise too. Didn't work out. Greediness thwarted him and was not in the 3rdIPL. Ravindra Jadeja is lucky that he got chances after chances in 50overs & T20. But to no avail and on the whole the performance was mediocre. He is not a hard hitter for which a 7 position requires. But simultaneously he should be sidelined too. Yusuf Pathan should be given a node with Irfan Pathan too. These too are solid big hard hitters for these formats and what the no.7 position requires. Sure the Pathan Brothers can fit in any side for in these formats for which this Indian team requires.

  • Saugata on August 23, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    I beg to differ on this Akash. Jadeja till now has not given a single match winning performance. At least people like the Pathan bros do offer once in a while flash in a pan performances but I don't consider Jadeja as either a good enough bowler and not at all a limited over batsman. Surely India can produce a more than decent spinning all rounder, who would be better than Jadeja.

  • Anonymous on August 23, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    i think yusuf would be a better option...jadeja never scores with bat as required by ano. 7 batsman....remember the world cup s in indian subcontinent...big hitting batsman l b better...kenya series shows yusuf is comning back to form...and he could be send higher up the order according to need..

  • sathish on August 23, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    Jadeja brings nothing to the fray with his batting. He can bat, sure, but his batting will never win a match for us. He won't put on the extra 20-30 runs needed when we're batting first, nor will he help us chase down that 20-30 runs when chasing. In short, the match is over when Jadeja comes in.

    So if the batting qualities of #7 are redundant and serve well only on paper, why not play a pure bowler at #7? I think our top 6 are good enough to overcome the inadequacies of a poor #7. And every man and his dog knows that our bowlers could do with all the help they can get.

  • Devendra on August 23, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    Irfan Pathan or Yusuf Pathan can be the best choice for No.7 spot. Else management should tell Virat Kohli to swing his arm more as he does in domestic cricket. We talk about bowling options for India. We have to share only 10 overs and the options available with Dhoni is Sehwag, Yuvraj, Raina, Tendulkar, Kohli.If we have to play with 5th Bowler (7th Spot) then what is the benefit of talking about the bowling options of above mentioned guys. My playing 11 for world cup 2011 is Tendulkar, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Kohli, Harbhajan, Praveen, Zaheer, Nehra. I am strongly against the selection of Karthik, Rohit and Jadeja. These guys have got so much chances but missed every opportunity. Why dont the selectors see the waiting Cheteshwar Pujara in the line and performing very well in domestic and out side India. Devendra