Perth Test 2010-11 December 21, 2010

Australians? Sledgers? Utter rubbish

They’re polite, well-bred lads in whose mouth butter wouldn’t melt
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Alan Tyers writes Despite what is being widely opined, I think the biggest mistake England made at the WACA was not bowling too short at Michael Hussey (if they believe that getting him out to the half-tracker on 116 was a vindication, they should all be severely punished). It wasn’t the failure to play Mitchell’s suddenly rediscovered inswinger. It wasn’t even the inability to stop the rot once wickets started to fall.

England’s major error was definitely trying to sledge Australia. Like they say, “Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.” When it comes to being rude, abrasive and over-competitive, your Aussie cricketer is simply in a different league to his English opponent. Clearly a decent lad like Jimmy Anderson is never going to win a nastiness contest with the likes of Peter Siddle and Brad Haddin. These guys list their favourite cinematic moments as “When Bambi’s mum got shot”. Their idea of polite company is waiting for the lady to break wind first. England were wrong to compete, and I hope that, come Melbourne, we get back to doing what we do pretty well: being good at cricket, and leave all this macho willy-waving to our Antipodean cousins.

Jarrod Kimber writes Oh no, it wasn't the sledging. It was beauty killed the beast. The sledging just comes on the rare occasions when the stars align and Mitchell Johnson finds his inswinger. The most elusive beast in world cricket. Until this Test I’d met people who didn’t even believe it existed. Some of the English players kept batting like it didn’t exist. This Australian team is not made of sledgers. Mitchell has a gormless face that just can’t sledge. Michael Clarke’s dainty body is not built for vulgarity. And Mike Hussey cries if he hurts someone’s feelings.

Australia are just louder when they win. That is why they have a reputation as sledgers, because they’ve won so much over the years and the losing sides have misconstrued this well-meaning chat as vicious sledging. Anyone can shut up an Australian, they call it winning.

Alan replies If the Aussies really did only sledge on the occasions when Mitch has got his bowling boots on the right way round, they would be the quietest, politest nation on earth, a whole team filled up with the shy maiden aunts of Trappist monks. Now that they have finally won a Test match, they’ll be louder, all right. But I still think that this Australian team are never more than half-a-dozen overs of things not running their way from going quiet, sulking, standing with their hands on their hips, or to pick an example entirely at random, losing their rag completely when run out by a substitute fielder.

Jarrod replies As keepers of the cricket flame of integrity, Australians do get angry when the opposition flagrantly push the spirit of the game with things like Bodyline, Arjuna Ranatunga’s runners and super subs. It’s just a shame that when Australia win, sledging is mentioned. As a people we are largely a quiet and shy bunch who just want what’s best for cricket - another Australian victory. Something England has done their best over the years to ensure.

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  • Itchy on January 6, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    A pretty bad indictment on this article that so many commenters thought it was serious. Report card on Alan and Jarrod: could do better.

  • Ria on January 6, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    @abby... true... this article was supposed to be sarcastic. So please everyone, don't take it literally!!

  • abby on December 28, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    "Mike Hussey cries when he hurts someone's feelings." Best line ever. Loved it. Also, I have noticed a fair few of the commenters have kind of... missed the point?

  • trent on December 23, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    we are #5 in test rankings. At least we still have sledging.

  • Krish on December 22, 2010, 17:19 GMT

    This comment by Tyers counts among the funniest pieces of cricket writing I've ever read: "we get back to doing what we do pretty well: being good at cricket"!

  • Walt on December 22, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    This is a fierce competition, and banter and sledging is par for the course and makes the contest so much more interesting. This is cricket. We want fast bowlers steaming in, looking angry and intimidating. We want batsmen shirking off the ferocity of the opposition attack and blasting big centuries. This makes the ashes, nay, this makes any test match series, a very special thing, and I for one love it.

    ...and don't forget, these guys are pros. At the end of the day (or rather series) they are mates again (perhaps baring a few). Think of Warne and Petiersen. They had many heated battles on the field, but when the dust settled, respected each other. And they are mates now. And don't for a second think that England don't sledge. They do, and in fact incited it in the last test.

    wrt Ricky Ponting, he is an all time great. He is first to admit when Aus weren't good enough, and the opposition better. But this is only merited when the contest has actually been won. so harden up.

  • Praful Lobo on December 22, 2010, 11:42 GMT

    Give me a break every country sledges in their own language. The only thing is that the Aussies do not deny it. They very competitive and I like that.

  • Izmir Dole on December 22, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    Suddenly what's all these sledging allegations against the Aussies by the English fans.For 15 years when they were dominating world cricket they were branded sledgers & now it seems to resurface again.During the last one year or so when they were not at their very best nobody seemed to care whether they sledged or not.This indicates the inherent fear & frustration of the opposition that the Aussies are back.What a difference a victory could make to rattle the opposition.

    Izmir

  • Jez on December 22, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    Urmm i think you'll find that, people are here to see the cricket, and we don't actually care about the talk! But if you talk the talk, walk the walk....obviously you Poms couldnt!

  • arjuna on December 22, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    Wow, Arjuna Ranatunge was under Aussi skin so bad, he is remembered so mant years after he stopped playing!!, great feeling!!

  • Itchy on January 6, 2011, 23:19 GMT

    A pretty bad indictment on this article that so many commenters thought it was serious. Report card on Alan and Jarrod: could do better.

  • Ria on January 6, 2011, 20:26 GMT

    @abby... true... this article was supposed to be sarcastic. So please everyone, don't take it literally!!

  • abby on December 28, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    "Mike Hussey cries when he hurts someone's feelings." Best line ever. Loved it. Also, I have noticed a fair few of the commenters have kind of... missed the point?

  • trent on December 23, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    we are #5 in test rankings. At least we still have sledging.

  • Krish on December 22, 2010, 17:19 GMT

    This comment by Tyers counts among the funniest pieces of cricket writing I've ever read: "we get back to doing what we do pretty well: being good at cricket"!

  • Walt on December 22, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    This is a fierce competition, and banter and sledging is par for the course and makes the contest so much more interesting. This is cricket. We want fast bowlers steaming in, looking angry and intimidating. We want batsmen shirking off the ferocity of the opposition attack and blasting big centuries. This makes the ashes, nay, this makes any test match series, a very special thing, and I for one love it.

    ...and don't forget, these guys are pros. At the end of the day (or rather series) they are mates again (perhaps baring a few). Think of Warne and Petiersen. They had many heated battles on the field, but when the dust settled, respected each other. And they are mates now. And don't for a second think that England don't sledge. They do, and in fact incited it in the last test.

    wrt Ricky Ponting, he is an all time great. He is first to admit when Aus weren't good enough, and the opposition better. But this is only merited when the contest has actually been won. so harden up.

  • Praful Lobo on December 22, 2010, 11:42 GMT

    Give me a break every country sledges in their own language. The only thing is that the Aussies do not deny it. They very competitive and I like that.

  • Izmir Dole on December 22, 2010, 11:36 GMT

    Suddenly what's all these sledging allegations against the Aussies by the English fans.For 15 years when they were dominating world cricket they were branded sledgers & now it seems to resurface again.During the last one year or so when they were not at their very best nobody seemed to care whether they sledged or not.This indicates the inherent fear & frustration of the opposition that the Aussies are back.What a difference a victory could make to rattle the opposition.

    Izmir

  • Jez on December 22, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    Urmm i think you'll find that, people are here to see the cricket, and we don't actually care about the talk! But if you talk the talk, walk the walk....obviously you Poms couldnt!

  • arjuna on December 22, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    Wow, Arjuna Ranatunge was under Aussi skin so bad, he is remembered so mant years after he stopped playing!!, great feeling!!

  • Varun on December 22, 2010, 11:06 GMT

    Its basically a good combination of the English result of whining and the Aussie result of winning. It is good to have aggression shown on the field like Zaheer its just gamesmanship and cricket needs it; but when the aggression show is over the top like Sreesanth many times, it is sledging and it becomes ugly.. IMHO Australians follow the Sreesanth way more often than not.

  • Sutto on December 22, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    Typical Australia versus the rest of the world thread, as soon as we start winning it's not because we outplayed you, it's because we hurt your feelings more than you were willing (or able) to hurt ours. The beat up that everyone from the sub-continent gives Ponting is purely because he is by far the best batsman we have produced for quite some time, and at his best, is the only one that comes close to matching it with their hero. It's ridiculous to say the Aussies sledge too hard, we do what we have to in order to get under the opposition's skin, the fact that they let it shows their lack of mental strength rather than any lack of sportsmanship from our end.

  • Ben Bailey on December 22, 2010, 10:37 GMT

    I dont see why it matters. some teams do it more than others, some are better at it, but ultimately how can you tell exactly whats being said by whom? only the 24 people on the field know wha'ts really going on and thats the way it should stay... unless its bloody hilarious

  • pavan on December 22, 2010, 10:21 GMT

    Hi

    If things arent going OZ way they start sledging. Even Highly respected Mcgrath did it, Ponting is the king of sledging....

  • neilesh on December 22, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    I think all of us are losing our focus on the mainstream- good and aggressive cricket played on the field.Sledging has been a part of the game since ages and will contnue to be so, for the better or for the worse.Let us stop this verbal diarrhoea and get on the game, for heaven's sake.The best team wins in test cricket- sledging or otherwise.

  • Anurag Singh on December 22, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    An Indian fan here All this talk of playing with dignity is utter tosh.I would be watching darts and not cricket if I din't want to see some sledging.Already Test cricket is losing its importance due to end less slog fests.I miss the old times when India and Pakistan had a go at each other like two hungry lions.Sachin - Mcgrath was another classic.Nothing is more entertaining than intelligent getting under your skin sledging..period

  • sridhar on December 22, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    I think every team sledges and if anything it is a question of degree and subtlety. The finest sledges smack of intelligence and humour. The trouble is when sledging gets personal and cricketers are forced to talk of the wife. I do agree with the fact that Australians have sledged more than most, but do not like it when dished back to them. Of course Australians too realise that there is no point in sledging Tendulkar, while they well might sledge Dravid. Look at the golf course and you will see sixty year olds sledging and whingeing, so what is the big deal when you are playing for your country or your honour. Is there a code of conduct ? Definitely not with modern day cricketers. I think it is commentators and critics who make a big deal of it.Let the better team win, sledge or no sledge. what are we playing? Bridge at the club!! sridhar

  • GavinX on December 22, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    Folks are taking this article too seriously. Basically, both writers are poking fun at the traditional excuses that people give in a contest involving Australia and England. If you read closely, you'll observe that it's simply that. Read these statements to get a clue: "losing their rag completely when run out by a substitute fielder;" and "As a people we are largely a quiet and shy bunch who just want what’s best for cricket - another Australian victory. Something England has done their best over the years to ensure." If you cannot see the tongue-in-cheek wit here, you have no business reading this.

  • Daniel on December 22, 2010, 9:11 GMT

    As an Australian, I would rather see the Australian team lose with dignity than win while sledging. The disappointing thing about the English team is that during the 2009 Ashes, they became momentarily worse sledgers than the Aussies. Australian teams have behaved badly for many years, but England fans shouldn't pretend that their team hasn't joined them in the basement.

  • Ramender on December 22, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    I dont give a damn about the facts.. All I can say is -- Nice work Jarrod !! :D

    "As a people we are largely a quiet and shy bunch who just want what’s best for cricket - another Australian victory. Something England has done their best over the years to ensure. " AND - " And Mike Hussey cries if he hurts someone’s feelings."

    Killers !!

  • joshua on December 22, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    Not surprised by this article. the aussies have always sledged especially once things start going their way. i have no respect for them cuz of that. as cricketers they are exceptional but as sportmen they dont have the right spirit. concerning what glen said to sarwan n the number of other controversies concerning slater n symonds n even ponting, aussies have always been sledgers. even the english are.

  • Jim on December 22, 2010, 8:46 GMT

    ponting has way too many haters, i honestly think it's unfair on him. he's a gun, there's no doubt about that, he's an awesome captain who had to put up with a massive change in the team, and i can only imagine how tough it must be. pretty sure he's won two world cups as captain, and another one as a player, and an ashes series 5-0. im sorry to all you haters because you can't argue with stats... so you attack his personality and his team's stats, which, to be honest, makes you look like an idiot who doesn't know a lot about playing cricket, which i highly doubt any of you haters have. and if you have, you would make a horrible captain, so don't.

  • Adam on December 22, 2010, 8:45 GMT

    Arun Kumar Posted by: Arun Kumar 22 hours, 31 minutes ago "I remember a particular incident which is referred to as Sarwan- McGrath spat in cricketing fraternity."

    You seem to forget that McGrath's wife was undergoing treatment for the breast cancer that eventually took her life at the time, maybe a sledge about someones wife undergoing cancer treatment will receive a more heated response than usual. Additionaly the "spit" was meters away from Sarwan when viewed from the side camera

  • eddy on December 22, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    im laughing soo hard! but not with this stupid write up, but at it. it's soo ridiculously not funny. actually, what i find even more funny is all this stuff from the english about australians, just because they now realise australians are here to play, and have something to cheer about. but no, english can't have that, no, of course not, they need to bag the aussies with exceptionally poor and generalising statements, it's pretty bad to be honest, sorry.

  • Jezza on December 22, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    So Australia is the only country that sledges. Come on! Everyone loves kicking the Aussies while we're down and opposition players are letting them know it. In recent series, Anderson, Singh and Prior haven't shut up. Off the field, Aussies are a free hit for all overseas commentors with Cricinfo one of the worst offenders. Recently, Darren Gough comments were a pretty big call for a team that had just won its first game of the series. Good call Darren. As Aussies, we take on board a great deal of criticism but get called outrageous things like 'racists' if we dare say something about other country's players. To say we lack sportsmanship is just dumbfounding. Ricky Ponting tried to introduce the honour catch system and other countries pooh-pooh it, while India constantly question the new technology like the UDRS. Maybe it takes away their tactic of appealing for everything and we're the bad sports. Great article, not!

  • John on December 22, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    Unfortunately, it is true, we all know. Even previous great Oz teams took sledging too far, I think. And England would do well to not get caught up, and react. As a mentor of mine once said: `don't get involved in a pissing match with a skunk'.

  • Andy on December 22, 2010, 8:14 GMT

    Hey Jarrod

    "....flagrantly push the spirit of the game with things like Bodyline, Arjuna Ranatunga’s runners and super subs.."

    You forgot the infamous under-arm ball. Slipped your mind??

  • Rob on December 22, 2010, 8:11 GMT

    Lol. Suddenly when the Aussie team start winning everyone runs scared. Love it.

  • Trickster on December 22, 2010, 7:43 GMT

    Please, the Ozzies are the ultimate in ,they'll only sledge when they're winning, not a peep out of them in the first 2 tests. Ponting was crying about little Jimmy sledging his boys, what a bloody baby and Haddin was there having a whinge to Strauss as well, Strauss must have thought what a bunch of gutless wonders, they couldn't take it when they were on the end of the hammering and they went to pieces in the biggest way, Ponting still hasn't got himself together.They better hope they don't get a beating at the MCG, or Ponting might just tell his dad about the nasty England team and what they've been saying.

  • Vishne on December 22, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    What a load of utter tripe from Alan Tyers! Need Mummy to come in & tuck you in at night & check under the bed for monsters, Alan? It's the Ashes, Alan. England do a pretty decent job of making sure they give at least as good as they get. If you think Brad Haddin is "nasty" & intimidating then you were probably the kind of sop that hid behind the couch when "ma noma nom" muppets or Dr Who came on.

  • Chris on December 22, 2010, 7:26 GMT

    cricket flame of integrity? Like when you ignored your own punishments for drug users because Shane Warne was rather good. At least the bodyline line series broke no rules.

  • Liquefier on December 22, 2010, 7:25 GMT

    Wow this was an epic failure at humour. Very lopsided, humourless and lacking in observation or direction.

    Typical comments on here from Subcontinental fans too, predictable as ever.

    If Jimmy Anderson wants to chirp at us, with his 12 wickets at the typically mediocre 31ish runs per wicket, and SAF-born Prior wants to cry and threaten to take someone out the back because he's soft and can't play the short ball then I think it's fair to say the Australians will bite back.

    We don't mind sledging, but we are better at it than England. What we do hate though is mediocrity like Anderson (Career average 31 = will be forgotten 1 year after he retires) and Prior trying to talk smack when the game is alive (Anderson), or they've gotten out looking horrid (Prior) or their contributions to the success of the team are mediocre at best (BOTH). We like Swann and KP because they have the results to justify the chat, which they engage in on a humorous level.

    Oh and Ian Bell is fat now.

  • Ro on December 22, 2010, 6:55 GMT

    Hmmm, with tongue firmly planted in cheek, or somewhere, did the authors tap away with this piece. One would hope anyway. Isn't it funny that when Australia win, sledging becomes mentioned again, if not always turned into a major issue if the mood doesn't strike. But when India win, or England or South Africa, sledging is never even whispered. Heaven forbid if those sides EVER sledge, Lordy no!! Yeah right! Frankly if any of the supporters of those sides don't think their team sledge or do it as well as any Aussie ever has, they may as well go back to sticking their heads in the sand and rubbing sunscreen on their butts! Aussie's are great sledgers, yes, because we back it up with action and deed. The sad old fair weather Indians, handbag toting South Africans and tea sipping Poms, well they talk a good game, but not always do they come barrelling out of the trenches into the machine gun fire with teeth clenched and the fierce will to beat the odds flooding through their veins!

  • Ben on December 22, 2010, 6:32 GMT

    Agreed we are good sledges but the thing is we haven't been doing it over the last two years. If you haven't seen it check The Australian website and read Priors article. Now if that doesn't fire the Aussie up nothing will.

    His dismissal in the first innings deserved a send off after the bouncer barrage. I'm glad Siddle told him he was soft with a few expletives thrown in for good measure.

    Then look at the second innings, his dismissal was the softest of them all and should have been given an even bigger spray. It was a pathetic nothing shot of a bloke who was scared.

    In fact I'll go as far as saying that England were absolutely packing it in the second dig. Everyone of their top 7 looked like they didn't want to be there facing Mitch. Their body language transformed from lions in the first 2 tests to lambs in the 3rd. You could see it in their faces they didn't want to be there.

    On to Melbourne - Aussies get your mouths and games in to gear and slay them!

  • Jordyn on December 22, 2010, 3:58 GMT

    We see what happens to England when they come face to face with decent bowling. It was bound to happen at some stage this series, they are just unlucky it didn't come after they had already won. Ametuer sledgers like Peterson and Anderson, once they sledge, go all sooky when they don't back it up with good cricket. Once you dish it out you must be able to take it back, obviously these guys couldn't, in the heat of the battle. And Prior? For a guy who's scored no runs, he seems to be doing a lot of talking. Best put up some scores before you run you're mouth buddy. England are back to their old ways now; facing good bowling and crumbling. Back into your shell you go fellas.

  • Mick on December 22, 2010, 3:08 GMT

    Perhaps the Aussies have learnt how to sledge in Afrikaans! Perhaps now the "English" team can better understand them

  • srinivas on December 21, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    Oh C'mon Alan. Atleast Australians sledge verbally. English cricketers take it a bit further and throw dead balls on the batsmen. Simon Jones to Mathew hayden and Stuart broad - Haider. Also, please don tell me that England do not know how to sledge. We all saw how chirpy Anderson was against Watson in the last Ashes.

  • mohamed on December 21, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    who won the toss?!

  • Ravi on December 21, 2010, 16:47 GMT

    Bravo Jarrod!!!! keep the banter up mate!!

  • Paul on December 21, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    :D sooper

  • sridhar on December 21, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    Australian cricket captain Ricky ponting is a Sledger. i like him as a batsman, but he doesn't know what sportsmanship is. winning is not everything.They should exhibit not only quality cricket but also best behaviour.Ponting dont know what is good behaviour. There are somany cricket legends in Australia like border, waugh brothers etc.. they are remembered even now because of thier quality behaviour and cricket. But ponting is noway near to them.

  • Martin on December 21, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    I think that too much is made of Ozzie sledging, the fact is that other countries have never caught on to how to do it properly. After the second test Ponting had words with Strauss. If I was Strauss I would have said: "Tuck in your skirt and make some runs before you talk to me. Oh and.... your mascara is running." That would have totally blindsided Ponting, and that's the point isn't it? The point of sledging is to get your opponent off balance. The Ozzies are really good at that, other countries? Not so much.

    I wish the English would bring back some of that subtlety that they used to display. Just insulting someone or trying to intimidate them through aggression is not particularly effective, but when you get into your opponents head you accomplish something worthwhile. They can think about your comment as their middle stump cartwheels behind them.

  • Stevo on December 21, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    If England wins Australians say "Geez we played shit." If Australia wins the English say "Those dreadful colonials have doctored the pitch/sledged too hard/conned the umpire/etc."

    And then they whinge that Australians call them whinging Poms.

  • Apurv on December 21, 2010, 10:50 GMT

    What a statement that Aussies don't sledge. They are the biggest sledgers in the game. They get perturbed when people give it back to them as Harbhajan and Zaheer. I think Allan Border has been the greatest ambassador for Oz cricket, but after him things went from bad to worse. During Mark Taylor, sledging was less. During Steven Waugh era, it increased a bit, but during Ponting era it was at its maximum. Ponting himself indulged in sledging and bringing a bad name to the game. So if someone says that Aussies are not sledgers someone can just hold his stomach and laugh away and can do nothing else other than this.

  • MS. Hussain on December 21, 2010, 10:49 GMT

    I can't argue with this piece as the saying goes i don't want to be beaten Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

  • Arun Kumar on December 21, 2010, 10:07 GMT

    I remember a particular incident which is referred to as Sarwan- McGrath spat in cricketing fraternity, and then Symonds- Harbhajan incident, and many more like that. I wonder by reading Jarrod’s reply that what did Sarwan and Bhajji do wrong to “flagrantly push the spirit of the game” that these incidents took such an ugly turn. As Australians are largely shy and quiet bunch of people I am compelled to think that McGrath and Symonds were completely innocent.

  • nigel on December 21, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    Can't for the life of me understand why sledging has become an issue all of a sudden. We all know it's been going on for at least four decades and that the aussies have always been very good at it. It's no big deal lads.

  • James on December 21, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    Can someone please, please tell the creators of this column that it isn't funny.

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  • James on December 21, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    Can someone please, please tell the creators of this column that it isn't funny.

  • nigel on December 21, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    Can't for the life of me understand why sledging has become an issue all of a sudden. We all know it's been going on for at least four decades and that the aussies have always been very good at it. It's no big deal lads.

  • Arun Kumar on December 21, 2010, 10:07 GMT

    I remember a particular incident which is referred to as Sarwan- McGrath spat in cricketing fraternity, and then Symonds- Harbhajan incident, and many more like that. I wonder by reading Jarrod’s reply that what did Sarwan and Bhajji do wrong to “flagrantly push the spirit of the game” that these incidents took such an ugly turn. As Australians are largely shy and quiet bunch of people I am compelled to think that McGrath and Symonds were completely innocent.

  • MS. Hussain on December 21, 2010, 10:49 GMT

    I can't argue with this piece as the saying goes i don't want to be beaten Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

  • Apurv on December 21, 2010, 10:50 GMT

    What a statement that Aussies don't sledge. They are the biggest sledgers in the game. They get perturbed when people give it back to them as Harbhajan and Zaheer. I think Allan Border has been the greatest ambassador for Oz cricket, but after him things went from bad to worse. During Mark Taylor, sledging was less. During Steven Waugh era, it increased a bit, but during Ponting era it was at its maximum. Ponting himself indulged in sledging and bringing a bad name to the game. So if someone says that Aussies are not sledgers someone can just hold his stomach and laugh away and can do nothing else other than this.

  • Stevo on December 21, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    If England wins Australians say "Geez we played shit." If Australia wins the English say "Those dreadful colonials have doctored the pitch/sledged too hard/conned the umpire/etc."

    And then they whinge that Australians call them whinging Poms.

  • Martin on December 21, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    I think that too much is made of Ozzie sledging, the fact is that other countries have never caught on to how to do it properly. After the second test Ponting had words with Strauss. If I was Strauss I would have said: "Tuck in your skirt and make some runs before you talk to me. Oh and.... your mascara is running." That would have totally blindsided Ponting, and that's the point isn't it? The point of sledging is to get your opponent off balance. The Ozzies are really good at that, other countries? Not so much.

    I wish the English would bring back some of that subtlety that they used to display. Just insulting someone or trying to intimidate them through aggression is not particularly effective, but when you get into your opponents head you accomplish something worthwhile. They can think about your comment as their middle stump cartwheels behind them.

  • sridhar on December 21, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    Australian cricket captain Ricky ponting is a Sledger. i like him as a batsman, but he doesn't know what sportsmanship is. winning is not everything.They should exhibit not only quality cricket but also best behaviour.Ponting dont know what is good behaviour. There are somany cricket legends in Australia like border, waugh brothers etc.. they are remembered even now because of thier quality behaviour and cricket. But ponting is noway near to them.

  • Paul on December 21, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    :D sooper

  • Ravi on December 21, 2010, 16:47 GMT

    Bravo Jarrod!!!! keep the banter up mate!!