Australia v India, CB series, Brisbane February 18, 2012

We'll need to fight fatigue - Arthur

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A day after Australia lost their second ODI in a row - an "unacceptable" performance - Mickey Arthur, their coach, has said that fighting fatigue will be one of the bigger factors in the rest of the triangular series. Arthur said Ricky Ponting, standing in as captain in Michael Clarke's injury-induced absence, was a bit jaded, too, after a long summer. Ponting has followed his double-century in Adelaide with ODI scores of 2, 1, 6 and 2, but Australia haven't even been able to think about resting him because of Clarke's injury.

"It [fatigue] is going to be a factor, there's no doubt about it," Arthur said. "We've pushed the guys incredibly hard in terms of our intensity, and our expectation around them. Some guys are feeling the effects of that, but we know what the schedule is, we have to make sure we manage the boys correctly, and that we've got the guys up and firing come tomorrow."

Australia play the second part of their double-header on Sunday in Brisbane, with a portion of the middle day spent travelling from Sydney to Brisbane. The heat is on Ponting now, and Arthur admitted he faced a challenge. "If I have to be totally honest Ricky is a little bit jaded, like a couple of our Test players that have played all summer," Arthur said, "but that is the treadmill of international cricket, and they have to find a way to make their performances count and have an impact on the team."

Why not, then, ask the vice-captain, David Warner, to lead the side? "We saw some huge potential in Dave, we want to grow him as a leader, he definitely has that potential," Arthur said. "He's not ready yet, and he knows that, and we've communicated that to him.

"We brought Dave into the vice-captaincy position to be part of our leadership group, and to learn from Michael and I when we strategise our position. In terms of taking guys on the field right now, he's not ready for that yet, and he understands that. I reckon he could be a great leader in a few years to come. You talk about succession planning, we need to find a leader, and he's one of those guys on our radar."

Arthur expects Ponting to make the kind of comeback he did in Tests easlier in the summer. "Ricky is a class act, there is no way you can write off a champion like Ricky Ponting," he said. "He faced those same issues around the first couple of Test matches, and he came through the Test series, had a great series against India, and I hope he turns it around tomorrow."

When asked if Ponting should quit, Arthur didn't commit either way. "I'd like to see Ricky Ponting in our team all the time, but as I've said through the summer, every cricketer's currency is performance, that's what gets you into the Australian team," he said. "A character like Ricky Ponting is someone you want around the team all the time because he's so inspirational, he's still our fittest player and hardest trainer, and he trains with the most intensity. He's a fantastic example to every guy who comes into this team."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on February 20, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    Arthur expects Ponting to make the kind of comeback he did in Tests easlier in the summer. "Ricky is a class act, there is no way you can write off a champion like Ricky Ponting," he said. "He faced those same issues around the first couple of Test matches, and he came through the Test series, had a great series against India, and I hope he turns it around tomorrow." why not these things applied on sachin tendulkar bcoz he is not only class act, he is masterclass,whose carries all excptation from indian people throught out the year,people wants to see him in ground if they bat well or not.he have great carrier.he wants to enjoy cricket lout more,as a senior ,as a coach, as a mentor,he is super hero from india we always like to see him in ground and hope he turns it around

  • zenboomerang on February 20, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    @Nampally... I think the fatigue issue is an excuse for the batsmen, especially when those that got the most runs weren't rested in the 1st ODI's... Different for the bowlers, as niggles can build up to real problems... As far as recent series breaks - Oz played SL, SA, NZ, India without any breaks... You can work out India's schedule for yourself :) ...

  • on February 19, 2012, 11:09 GMT

    The Aussies are back in business thanks to their chief tormentor Ben Hilfenhaus! Might be wise to bring back Peter Siddle as well. You have the lethal combination with Lee and Doherty. Australia win the CB series.

  • RogerC on February 19, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    Some more tips to Aussie coach - food was bad, hotel TV did not work, team bus driver had tummy upset,...

  • here2rock on February 19, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    Come on don't give us excuses, just admit that your team has been outplayed.

  • donda on February 19, 2012, 1:10 GMT

    Good excuse after losing matches, keep on giving excuses. It's always the part of coaches to give excuses so that they can save their job and team moral don't go down because they played bad.

    Good job coach, keep it up.

    But this is the time to win games , two games are enough to lose and time to press some aggression in the team.

    11 players play the whole game not ponting alone, he might be fatigued but what about other 10. Kindly don't make false excuses. Just admit that other team played well.

  • rust01 on February 18, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    Nampally and Harlnd the Indian players are no way more fatigued as they did not put any effort into the tests. They only came here to compete in T20 and ODI.

  • Nampally on February 18, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    TheIndianplayers are more fatigues than the Aussies. They have played England, away & home series + West indies away & home series before arriving in Australia. Dhoni has played all the tests & missed only the ODI's vs. WI. So Mr. Arthur, get real! The same fatigue also applies to the Indian team. Aussies have players like Hughes & Khwaja who are not included despite their good showing.They can replace Ponting - who can rest. It must also be noted that India & SL are the WC ODI Finalists. So the going will be tough. India also has a younger team which makes them more competitive. So the last few games will be tough for all 3 teams - all with player fatigue imminent. Clarke went down with hamstring injury. Ponting is lucky to be still fit. So it looks like it is battle of the fittest. That is what happens when there is too much cricket!

  • Winsome on February 18, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Easy solution. Rest Ricky Ponting. He's not performing anyway, so give the captaincy to Dussey and let him go and spend some time with his family.

  • Harishonthemic on February 18, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    Don't you think Indians would be more fatigued than Aussies and low on moral because they were fielding under the sun for days together for Clarke, Ponting and Hussey to finish their batting. The coach had some explaining to do when his team lost and that's what this exactly is. But no one can take anything away from the Aussies and it's entertaining to see all the teams play highly competitive cricket.

  • on February 20, 2012, 7:33 GMT

    Arthur expects Ponting to make the kind of comeback he did in Tests easlier in the summer. "Ricky is a class act, there is no way you can write off a champion like Ricky Ponting," he said. "He faced those same issues around the first couple of Test matches, and he came through the Test series, had a great series against India, and I hope he turns it around tomorrow." why not these things applied on sachin tendulkar bcoz he is not only class act, he is masterclass,whose carries all excptation from indian people throught out the year,people wants to see him in ground if they bat well or not.he have great carrier.he wants to enjoy cricket lout more,as a senior ,as a coach, as a mentor,he is super hero from india we always like to see him in ground and hope he turns it around

  • zenboomerang on February 20, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    @Nampally... I think the fatigue issue is an excuse for the batsmen, especially when those that got the most runs weren't rested in the 1st ODI's... Different for the bowlers, as niggles can build up to real problems... As far as recent series breaks - Oz played SL, SA, NZ, India without any breaks... You can work out India's schedule for yourself :) ...

  • on February 19, 2012, 11:09 GMT

    The Aussies are back in business thanks to their chief tormentor Ben Hilfenhaus! Might be wise to bring back Peter Siddle as well. You have the lethal combination with Lee and Doherty. Australia win the CB series.

  • RogerC on February 19, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    Some more tips to Aussie coach - food was bad, hotel TV did not work, team bus driver had tummy upset,...

  • here2rock on February 19, 2012, 5:50 GMT

    Come on don't give us excuses, just admit that your team has been outplayed.

  • donda on February 19, 2012, 1:10 GMT

    Good excuse after losing matches, keep on giving excuses. It's always the part of coaches to give excuses so that they can save their job and team moral don't go down because they played bad.

    Good job coach, keep it up.

    But this is the time to win games , two games are enough to lose and time to press some aggression in the team.

    11 players play the whole game not ponting alone, he might be fatigued but what about other 10. Kindly don't make false excuses. Just admit that other team played well.

  • rust01 on February 18, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    Nampally and Harlnd the Indian players are no way more fatigued as they did not put any effort into the tests. They only came here to compete in T20 and ODI.

  • Nampally on February 18, 2012, 18:27 GMT

    TheIndianplayers are more fatigues than the Aussies. They have played England, away & home series + West indies away & home series before arriving in Australia. Dhoni has played all the tests & missed only the ODI's vs. WI. So Mr. Arthur, get real! The same fatigue also applies to the Indian team. Aussies have players like Hughes & Khwaja who are not included despite their good showing.They can replace Ponting - who can rest. It must also be noted that India & SL are the WC ODI Finalists. So the going will be tough. India also has a younger team which makes them more competitive. So the last few games will be tough for all 3 teams - all with player fatigue imminent. Clarke went down with hamstring injury. Ponting is lucky to be still fit. So it looks like it is battle of the fittest. That is what happens when there is too much cricket!

  • Winsome on February 18, 2012, 17:07 GMT

    Easy solution. Rest Ricky Ponting. He's not performing anyway, so give the captaincy to Dussey and let him go and spend some time with his family.

  • Harishonthemic on February 18, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    Don't you think Indians would be more fatigued than Aussies and low on moral because they were fielding under the sun for days together for Clarke, Ponting and Hussey to finish their batting. The coach had some explaining to do when his team lost and that's what this exactly is. But no one can take anything away from the Aussies and it's entertaining to see all the teams play highly competitive cricket.

  • Aussie5566 on February 18, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Ponting must play further for Australia.It's a needy thing. Some people may disagree with this.They didn't know the reality inside the team. Always says,SINGLE DIGIT SCORES in the series. I'm soooooo sorry about them.

    I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MR.ARTHUR.

  • Mevan on February 18, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Aussies got hammered by Sri Lanka - as Ian Chapell quite correctly said. The coach has to find an excuse, true, but this one really takes the prize!

  • jmcilhinney on February 18, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    I think that this is just the way Australian cricket is at the moment. Just like many other countries, there is plenty of talent in Australia but there just aren't the players who can consistently play at a high level like there was for so long. Players will do well at domestic level but when they make the step up to international level they will struggle to play as consistently. There are a number of relatively new faces in the Australian team so they may well improve in time but I just don't see them reaching the heights that they once did. They're still #1 in ODIs though and I don't see anyone else playing consistently well enough to knock them off any time soon.

  • hhillbumper on February 18, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    Anjan.Having read all the complete rubbish re excuses from Indian fans on here indeed it is hypocrisy.The pitches are too bouncy,The umpires are biased, people shouldn't be allowed to bowl at our glorious batsman. The reality is that Aussie have lost a few games because they need to improve.

  • rahulcricket007 on February 18, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    WELL , WELL ARTHUR HAS TAKEN SOME TIPS ON MAKING EXCUSES FROM MS DHONI .

  • jmcilhinney on February 18, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    I'm afraid that this fatigue claim just doesn't cut it. I agree that the schedule of an international cricketer can be gruelling these days but how many of the players in the ODI team actually played in the Test matches? Clarke is out and Starc didn't play all Tests so the only others are Warner, Ponting and Mike Hussey. Hussey has already been rested and I doubt that Warner needs or wants one. If Ponting has an issue with fatigue then he should have been rested by now too. Obviously not in the last game but Australia played three before that.

  • KingOwl on February 18, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    Please, don't give pathetic excuses for being hammered. SL has been playing cricket non-stop since the world cup - always away from home - England, Pakistan, South Africa, now Australia. They are way MORE tired that Australia.

  • VivGilchrist on February 18, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    No one is forcing them to play. My heart really goes out to them, being paid all that money to play the game they love. Poor guys.

  • thectexperience on February 18, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    Totally agree with akpy. Arthur is talking rubbish here. If Ponting's fatigued, why is he training so hard? I never could stand those coaches who give the team as much time doing fitness and throwing a ball at one stump as they give them in the nets.

    There are three excellent teams in this series and you can't win em all. Australia is perhaps the weakest side on paper, buy buoyed by the home conditions of course. Sri Lanka have a brilliant batting line-up on current form. India are well-balanced and better-suited to the one-day format than to Tests.

    Yes everyone knows the Aussies' batting is fragile. Our biggest strength is pace. With a new ball at each end for this series this should be a huge factor, but now for no real reason we have a completely different pace attack from the Test series. Hilfenhaus has been brilliant, Siddle almost as good, and both are out in favour of Lee and McKay!!

  • on February 18, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    Mickey Arthur had warned that the Aussie bowlers would crush India in the ODI series. But the moment the Aussies start losing and by huge margins, they are talking of fatigue. Such is the HYPOCRISY.

  • on February 18, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    in international sports there shud be no excuses!!!!!

  • Busie1979 on February 18, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    I don't believe fatigue is a real factor for cricket. These guys are batsman, not bowlers. Compare the workloads of a batsman with that of an AFL footballer. AFL footballers play pre-season, then 22 games a year, week in week out, at much higher intensity, and then finals if the team is good enough. Guys aren't rested in AFL teams, and fatigue is never used as an excuse. I have played AFL and cricket, and there is no question that AFL takes a lot more out of you than cricket. If Ponting cannot stand up to the rigour of international cricket, he is too old.

  • on February 18, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    The Aussies are choking with Arthur.

  • Gizza on February 18, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    This is a home series for Australia. The squad can't honestly be that fatigued can they Mickey? The Indian team would have a better claim (as would any away team although Sri Lanka is only here for the ODI leg) to being fatigued since they came to Australian shores experiencing jet lag and also have to acclitimise to different weather. Not to mention losing like India did in the Test would make you feel more sad and therefore feeling more tired.

  • WellOfcours on February 18, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    @akpy…LOL.. Totally agree with you. And if M. Clark fails, it is lack of practice. :D

  • WellOfcours on February 18, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Don't cry over fatigue Mr. Arthur. The Aussies were not competitive enough and were average in every department. Face it.

  • zenboomerang on February 18, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    @Mickey Arthur :- "he's so inspirational, he's still our fittest player and hardest trainer, and he trains with the most intensity"... But that doesn't win matches - runs do... The same statement could have been said about Mr Cricket with the only difference is that Huss does get runs in all formats of the game & probably needs to move up to no.3 in Tests & ODI's for the next 1-2 years... Getting runs reduces the pressure on the middle order & allows them to bat more freely - if Ponting had made 30-40 runs in Adelaide we would be 3-1 in this series...

  • akpy on February 18, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    if you lose or batsmen fail, it is fatigue...just last week, no one spoke about it...and if you take rest, then it is lack of practice (andy flower's reasoning for english failure in tests in UAE)....when 2 teams play, one team has to win and that is sports..probably the media scrutiny, modern thinking, etc, etc is making people come up with such reasons...if australia win on sunday, would it be that they are again the dream team and india is fatigued?? Maybe SL was fatigued the initial few games after their trip to SA?

  • ajayrcs on February 18, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    Fatigue come on its senseless selection that"s the problem. Dropping Harris for Lee, No way in world Lee can replace Harris. Harris is thousand times better than Lee. During test test series Australia had huge line of fast bowler waiting now they are picking lee where are those bowlers. Bring in Coulter-Nile, Jackson Bird, Alister McDermott.

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  • ajayrcs on February 18, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    Fatigue come on its senseless selection that"s the problem. Dropping Harris for Lee, No way in world Lee can replace Harris. Harris is thousand times better than Lee. During test test series Australia had huge line of fast bowler waiting now they are picking lee where are those bowlers. Bring in Coulter-Nile, Jackson Bird, Alister McDermott.

  • akpy on February 18, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    if you lose or batsmen fail, it is fatigue...just last week, no one spoke about it...and if you take rest, then it is lack of practice (andy flower's reasoning for english failure in tests in UAE)....when 2 teams play, one team has to win and that is sports..probably the media scrutiny, modern thinking, etc, etc is making people come up with such reasons...if australia win on sunday, would it be that they are again the dream team and india is fatigued?? Maybe SL was fatigued the initial few games after their trip to SA?

  • zenboomerang on February 18, 2012, 7:04 GMT

    @Mickey Arthur :- "he's so inspirational, he's still our fittest player and hardest trainer, and he trains with the most intensity"... But that doesn't win matches - runs do... The same statement could have been said about Mr Cricket with the only difference is that Huss does get runs in all formats of the game & probably needs to move up to no.3 in Tests & ODI's for the next 1-2 years... Getting runs reduces the pressure on the middle order & allows them to bat more freely - if Ponting had made 30-40 runs in Adelaide we would be 3-1 in this series...

  • WellOfcours on February 18, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    Don't cry over fatigue Mr. Arthur. The Aussies were not competitive enough and were average in every department. Face it.

  • WellOfcours on February 18, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    @akpy…LOL.. Totally agree with you. And if M. Clark fails, it is lack of practice. :D

  • Gizza on February 18, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    This is a home series for Australia. The squad can't honestly be that fatigued can they Mickey? The Indian team would have a better claim (as would any away team although Sri Lanka is only here for the ODI leg) to being fatigued since they came to Australian shores experiencing jet lag and also have to acclitimise to different weather. Not to mention losing like India did in the Test would make you feel more sad and therefore feeling more tired.

  • on February 18, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    The Aussies are choking with Arthur.

  • Busie1979 on February 18, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    I don't believe fatigue is a real factor for cricket. These guys are batsman, not bowlers. Compare the workloads of a batsman with that of an AFL footballer. AFL footballers play pre-season, then 22 games a year, week in week out, at much higher intensity, and then finals if the team is good enough. Guys aren't rested in AFL teams, and fatigue is never used as an excuse. I have played AFL and cricket, and there is no question that AFL takes a lot more out of you than cricket. If Ponting cannot stand up to the rigour of international cricket, he is too old.

  • on February 18, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    in international sports there shud be no excuses!!!!!

  • on February 18, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    Mickey Arthur had warned that the Aussie bowlers would crush India in the ODI series. But the moment the Aussies start losing and by huge margins, they are talking of fatigue. Such is the HYPOCRISY.