England v India, 2nd Test, Trent Bridge July 27, 2011

A paradise for pace bowlers

Madhusudhan Ramakrishnan
After a poor display in the first Test, India will face an uphill task at a venue which has heavily favoured pace bowling in recent times
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Stiff test ahead for India
England produced an excellent all-round performance to win the first Test by a huge margin of 196 runs. Injury-hit India, who were outclassed with bat and ball, will go into the second Test at Trent Bridge fully aware of the fact that another win for England would mean a serious threat to their No.1 ranking. On the other hand, England will be wary of India's ability to bounce back immediately after a defeat. Traditionally poor starters on tours, India have fought back to win the second Test against South Africa and the third Test against Sri Lanka in the last two years after being 1-0 down. On their previous England tour in 2007, India won the second Test at Trent Bridge following a narrow escape in the first Test at Lord's. However, Zaheer Khan, India's best bowler on that occasion, is likely to miss the second Test this time, making it a tough task for India to mount a comeback.

Fast bowlers dominate at Trent Bridge
Among English venues, Lord's and the Oval have traditionally been batting friendly. This is not quite the case with Trent Bridge, the venue for the second Test. Since 2005, it has proved to be one of the toughest batting venues in the world with only Sabina Park having a lower runs-per-wicket figure. While batsmen have found the going very difficult at the venue, pace bowlers have enjoyed the friendly conditions. Trent Bridge has witnessed 13 five-wicket hauls in the 10 Tests it has hosted since 2000. On the other hand, there have been only 15 centuries in 10 games there, a century-per-Test rate much lower than other venues in England. Although English pace bowlers have a better record at most home venues as compared to their overseas counterparts, visiting bowlers have been able to match up to the home bowlers more often than not at Trent Bridge.

James Anderson, who bowled superbly to pick up 5 for 65 in India's second innings at Lord's, has had an outstanding time at Trent Bridge. With his bowling style ideally suited to the conditions, he has picked up 28 wickets in four Tests at the venue with four five-wicket hauls and a ten-wicket haul. Anderson, who picked up 6 for 17 against Pakistan at Trent Bridge last year, has an average of 15.89 which is the best among bowlers who have captured 20 or more wickets at the venue. With Zaheer unlikely to play, the Indian pace attack which impressed in patches in the first Test, will be hard pressed to deliver against England's in-form line-up. Although spinners average under 28 in Tests played at Trent Bridge since 2000, the figures are improved vastly due to the performance of Shane Warne and Muttiah Muralitharan. While the two spin greats together have picked up 27 wickets at an average of 12.40, the other spinners have struggled for impact, picking up 40 wickets at an average over 38. Harbhajan SIngh, who had a forgettable first Test, has generally gone on to bowl much better as the series progresses. For India to pose a strong threat, he has to raise his level at a venue where he returned ordinary match figures of 3 for 175 on his last visit.

Pace bowlers at each ground in England since 2000 (min eight matches)- excluding neutral matches
Ground Matches England (Wickets/avg) Visiting team(Wickets/avg) England (5WI/10WM) Visiting teams (5WI/10WM)
Trent Bridge 10 146/27.00 121/30.73 8/1 5/0
Old Trafford 9 121/28.15 88/36.84 4/1 3/0
Lord's 24 336/28.41 242/41.36 11/0 12/2
Edgbaston 10 119/31.58 99/35.96 3/0 1/0
Headingley 9 118/32.58 152/29.69 3/0 5/0
Oval 11 118/34.64 114/37.61 3/0 4/0

Batsmen find the going tough
The batting difficulties at Trent Bridge can be understood from the innings-wise stats at the venue. The average in the first innings (33.69) is the lowest among all grounds in England except Edgbaston. While the second-innings average is also low, the third and fourth-innings stats clearly indicate that batsmen have found it very hard to impose themselves in Tests at Trent Bridge. The third-innings average (27.08) and fourth-innings average (21.40) are the lowest among all venues with only Headingley and Edgbaston having similar third-innings stats. The number of centuries in each match innings at Trent Bridge also drops sharply from nine in the first innings to two in the second innings. In sharp contrast, Lord's and the Oval have been much better venues for batting as the match goes on. Old Trafford, in particular has demonstrated a tendency to flatten out in the final innings, and has an average over 45 in Tests played since 2000.

Innings-wise stats for English grounds in Tests since 2000 - (average, 100/50)
Ground Matches 1st innings 2nd innings 3rd innings 4th innings
Lord's 25 41.16, 25/34 31.35,14/30 35.22, 18/34 35.17, 3/17
Oval 11 41.92, 7/24 35.37, 8/17 31.32, 5/11 37.72, 2/5
Headingley 10 36.58, 10/9 36.32, 7/13 27.14, 2/13 28.53, 1/5
Trent Bridge 10 33.69, 9/14 31.97, 2/16 27.08, 3/12 21.40, 1/3
Edgbaston 10 30.94, 4/10 38.06, 8/17 27.47, 4/13 35.25, 1/4
Old Trafford 9 36.36, 6/14 30.14, 7/6 27.87, 4/8 45.43, 4/4

England's improved record at the venue
The 196-run win in the first Test at Lord's was England's 11th at the venue against India. After winning only four out of 23 Tests at Lord's between 1984 and 2000 , England have won 13 and lost just three of the 24 Tests played there since. Although their recent record at Trent Bridge is not as awe inspiring, it is still an improvement over their earlier performances. England won and lost an even number of Tests at Trent Bridge till the 1990s (11) and this trend continued in the 1990s too as they won and lost two Tests. However, since 2000, they have won five and lost three Tests. After the loss to Australia in 2001, England won three of their next four Tests at the venue including a three-wicket win in the fourth Test of the 2005 Ashes. Following consecutive losses to Sri Lanka and India in 2006 and 2007, England have been undefeated since at Trent Bridge, with massive wins over New Zealand and Pakistan. Another noticeable trend at the venue has been the fall in batting averages of England and visiting teams in the last decade. While England's average has fallen from over 40 in the 1990s to 30.28 since 2000, visiting teams' average has dropped from 33.41 to 28.40.

England's record at Trent Bridge
Period Played Won Lost Drawn W/L ratio Batting avg Bowling avg
Overall 55 18 16 21 1.12 33.95 30.82
Till 1990s 37 11 11 15 1.00 33.78 30.84
1990s 8 2 2 4 1.00 40.36 33.41
2000-2011 10 5 3 2 1.66 30.28 28.77

Contrasting batting records for teams
India, who have not lost in their last three visits to Trent Bridge, will be reassured by the fact that the ground has been a happy venue for their top batsmen. Sachin Tendulkar, who struggled with his fitness in the previous Test, has been superb at Trent Bridge, scoring nearly 500 runs at an average over 78 with a century and three half-centuries. Rahul Dravid, who became Test cricket's second-highest run-getter during his century at Lord's has also been impressive at the venue, with an average of 53 in six innings. But VVS Laxman, whose form generally tends to get better as the series goes on, will do well to improve on an otherwise ordinary record there.

The situation is quite the opposite for the in-form English batsmen. None of the batsmen including the captain Andrew Strauss have made any impression in Tests played at Trent Bridge. Kevin Pietersen, the double centurion in the first Test, has scored nearly 300 runs but his average of 32.55 is well below his career record. Alastair Cook and Ian Bell have been highly disappointing in Tests at Trent Bridge. While Cook averages 17.28 in seven innings, Bell has managed to aggregate just 37 runs in his five innings there.

Performance of English and Indian batsmen at Trent Bridge (Tests since 1995)
Batsman Innings Runs Average 100/50
Andrew Strauss 11 267 24.27 0/2
Kevin Pietersen 9 293 32.55 1/0
Alastair Cook 7 121 17.28 0/0
Ian Bell 5 37 7.40 0/0
Sachin Tendulkar 6 469 78.16 1/3
Rahul Dravid 6 268 53.60 1/1
VVS Laxman 3 90 30.00 0/1

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  • ashish514 on July 29, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    Replace Harbhajan with Munaf Patel or as Andy Roberts would put it- "Replace Harbhajan with a better spinner". LOL

    Bouncing back in this match will be too tough, as Zaheer, who has been instrumental in previous revivals is absent. Only if Sreesanth can conjure at least two of those rare spells he can sometimes bowl and if Sharma and PK can do what they did in 2nd and 1st innings respectively in both the innings this time, we have a chance. And I'll take some heart from the last bit of information about batting performances at this ground by Indians.

  • jr1972 on July 29, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    @Gazzypops, I hope you are incorrect in your analysis but can see that India should be a harder team to beat. More importantly I hope you enjoy your "maiden" test and the teams put on a fantastic spectacle.

  • on July 29, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    Zahid: I don't know if you saw the table concluding the article; Sachin averages 78+ here with one 100 and 3 50s in only 6 innings. Dravid also averages over 50 here, but has been less consistent, scoring <50 4 of his 6 innings.

  • on July 29, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    my 11.....dravid ,gambhir,raina,sachin,lax,yuvi,dho,mishra,prav,sree,ishan...............

  • on July 29, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    @pikri Dude first see the records of Sachin, Dravid and Laxman in England and Australia, then comment. Think twice before calling them as flat track bullies. They have very good records on bounce tracks:)

  • on July 29, 2011, 1:19 GMT

    I think India should play with 4 seamers, there is no point in playing with Bhajji we have likes of Suresh Raina who can role his arms. If Gambhir not playing then definately Yuvraj he can bowl too.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 28, 2011, 21:43 GMT

    At least Stats say that it is going to be Sachin's ground. But with 100th 100 at the back of his mind, he will freeze and choke as usual. He should forget it and play. I'm banking on Dravid, VVS and Raina. Hope they send Yuvraj Singh as opener along with Mukund. India can't afford to lose their big man Dravid early by exposing him to new ball. Caution has to be the name of the game. It's not time for unrealistic heroics. What if Dravid falls early? Can India bounce back from such an early set back? Time for Dhoni to get realistic. Yes, Yuvraj Singh may not be able to handle the new ball as well as Dravid. But cricket is as much a mental game as it is a game of talent and the psychological factor that you are at your dearly earned position adds to your spirit and sense of responsibility. I hope that inefficient captain Dhoni is listening. How bad and ill-prepared is this Indian Team that we are seeing ridiculous roles for this rare genius Dravid during such an important series.

  • mkazmi on July 28, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    i wud not count out India yet... they are slow starters historically and have performed well overseas in later test matches once they get acclimatised... between sachin, dravid, laxman, and gambhir they will score 6 centuries in the next 3 tests... harbhaji will only improve in the last 2 tests and end up taking 15+ wickets in the series... series score will be 2-1 to england... i dont remember the last time india won 2 or more tests in a series abroad... can anyone recall??

  • Lallubhai on July 28, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    @ pirki , Unlike pakistani batsmen the LEGENDARY Indian batsmen have scored runs all over the world and in all conditions . As a small example did you read the stats on this blog about batting averages at this difficult batting venue . Unless you need glasses you should be able to see how well Indian batsmen have scored on this ground where others have struggled .

  • on July 28, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    @pirki : Can England Team Win single Test in Indian soil???? but The No.1 Test Team INDIA can WIN the SERIES in any foreign soil. Watch out for YUVI , SHARMA and SREE

  • ashish514 on July 29, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    Replace Harbhajan with Munaf Patel or as Andy Roberts would put it- "Replace Harbhajan with a better spinner". LOL

    Bouncing back in this match will be too tough, as Zaheer, who has been instrumental in previous revivals is absent. Only if Sreesanth can conjure at least two of those rare spells he can sometimes bowl and if Sharma and PK can do what they did in 2nd and 1st innings respectively in both the innings this time, we have a chance. And I'll take some heart from the last bit of information about batting performances at this ground by Indians.

  • jr1972 on July 29, 2011, 5:38 GMT

    @Gazzypops, I hope you are incorrect in your analysis but can see that India should be a harder team to beat. More importantly I hope you enjoy your "maiden" test and the teams put on a fantastic spectacle.

  • on July 29, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    Zahid: I don't know if you saw the table concluding the article; Sachin averages 78+ here with one 100 and 3 50s in only 6 innings. Dravid also averages over 50 here, but has been less consistent, scoring <50 4 of his 6 innings.

  • on July 29, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    my 11.....dravid ,gambhir,raina,sachin,lax,yuvi,dho,mishra,prav,sree,ishan...............

  • on July 29, 2011, 4:24 GMT

    @pikri Dude first see the records of Sachin, Dravid and Laxman in England and Australia, then comment. Think twice before calling them as flat track bullies. They have very good records on bounce tracks:)

  • on July 29, 2011, 1:19 GMT

    I think India should play with 4 seamers, there is no point in playing with Bhajji we have likes of Suresh Raina who can role his arms. If Gambhir not playing then definately Yuvraj he can bowl too.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 28, 2011, 21:43 GMT

    At least Stats say that it is going to be Sachin's ground. But with 100th 100 at the back of his mind, he will freeze and choke as usual. He should forget it and play. I'm banking on Dravid, VVS and Raina. Hope they send Yuvraj Singh as opener along with Mukund. India can't afford to lose their big man Dravid early by exposing him to new ball. Caution has to be the name of the game. It's not time for unrealistic heroics. What if Dravid falls early? Can India bounce back from such an early set back? Time for Dhoni to get realistic. Yes, Yuvraj Singh may not be able to handle the new ball as well as Dravid. But cricket is as much a mental game as it is a game of talent and the psychological factor that you are at your dearly earned position adds to your spirit and sense of responsibility. I hope that inefficient captain Dhoni is listening. How bad and ill-prepared is this Indian Team that we are seeing ridiculous roles for this rare genius Dravid during such an important series.

  • mkazmi on July 28, 2011, 19:25 GMT

    i wud not count out India yet... they are slow starters historically and have performed well overseas in later test matches once they get acclimatised... between sachin, dravid, laxman, and gambhir they will score 6 centuries in the next 3 tests... harbhaji will only improve in the last 2 tests and end up taking 15+ wickets in the series... series score will be 2-1 to england... i dont remember the last time india won 2 or more tests in a series abroad... can anyone recall??

  • Lallubhai on July 28, 2011, 18:30 GMT

    @ pirki , Unlike pakistani batsmen the LEGENDARY Indian batsmen have scored runs all over the world and in all conditions . As a small example did you read the stats on this blog about batting averages at this difficult batting venue . Unless you need glasses you should be able to see how well Indian batsmen have scored on this ground where others have struggled .

  • on July 28, 2011, 18:10 GMT

    @pirki : Can England Team Win single Test in Indian soil???? but The No.1 Test Team INDIA can WIN the SERIES in any foreign soil. Watch out for YUVI , SHARMA and SREE

  • on July 28, 2011, 17:41 GMT

    Comon bhajji show ur ability n once again show that what u r.

  • dkmemon on July 28, 2011, 16:00 GMT

    Every one of you talking about India's comeback,,,,JUST TELL THEM THIS IS NOT mumbai,,,,,

  • Lala_Amarnath on July 28, 2011, 15:47 GMT

    It is a bowler's paradise. India should gamble with 5 bowlers - Mishra and 4 seamers. Drop bhajji. Yuvraj would fail as he will be unfamiliar with the pace and english conditions. Indian top batting order will be under pressure but historically they perform better if they know all of them have to fire.

  • BustIPL on July 28, 2011, 15:31 GMT

    We should not also forget that Bhajji unknowingly is holding the all rounder spot. England had a trap for him like Mukund, Gambhir and laxman. India on the other hand took Broad lightly who proved to be a handy allrounder. So, India have to think about broad as well. Looking at the recent form of Indian bowlers talk of bouncing back look void. Mishra is an expensive bowler and can be used to buy expensive wickets. Number one position is self destructive as it is playing on the mind of indian batsmen lot has to be done on the ground than generating fancy stats on computers in the drawing rooms.

  • Alexk400 on July 28, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    I will definitely drop Bhajji and play seamers. Yuvi comes in place of gambhir can bowl some spins as a hold one end bowler. Except for pieterson ofcourse. ;) . That is the only way. if india can keep england in check they can draw the game. if england allowed to score 600 runs , then indian batsman will be under pressure to perform , procession will continue.

  • on July 28, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    4 right arm fast bowlers would make the attack look monotonous and predictable. Bhajji had a wicket right on his first delivery which Dravid spilled. If it would have been taken then who knows, he could have been a different bowler.. They need to bring in Yuvraj Singh for left arm spin option. Also, if there is a chance, if Zaheer is ruled out for the whole series, we need to recall R P Singh, who has done very well on English conditions and again is a left arm swing bowler with good pace.

  • zico123 on July 28, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    firstly India should play Sreesanth for Zaheer, but if Gautam is ruled out too due to elbow injury, then India have to play Yuvi, means we will have 2 part time spinners Yuvi and Raina, so we don't need Bhajji, then india should play Munaf in place of bhajji, so we will have 4 seamers (Sreesanth, Ishant, Praveen, Munaf) and 2 part time spinners

  • Zahidsaltin on July 28, 2011, 14:59 GMT

    Its all in the hands of two men for india, Dravid and Laxman. Do not count on Dhoni, Raina, Tandulkar for big innings on this bowler friendly track. I am sure Bhaji is gona do much better here.

  • khiladisher on July 28, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    THE RECORDS OF THE GREAT INDIAN TRIO EVEN AT TRENT BRIDGE IS MUCH SUPERIOR TO THE ENGLISH BATSMEN -SO AS USUAL THE CONTEST WILL BE BETWEEN THE GREAT INDIAN BATTING{HOW I WISH THAT SEHWAG WAS HERE,AND THE BEST BOWLING ATTACK CURRENTLY IN WORLD CRICKET.

  • on July 28, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    Indian fans seem to have a poor understanding of their own players. We have someone called "Sherry Roy" who states that Yuvraj should be picked instead of Raina because Yuvraj can bowl. Someone called "Balasenty" also states he would like to see Yuvraj play. Ok so Yuvraj to the rescue but its a shame he is the biggest flat track bully of them all, he can't play short pitched balls, he can't handle quality swing bowling and his bowling was described by some as being innocuous pies. Raina has proved himself in the series against west indies and again at lords. He is a man for a crisis. Why upset the boat and replace him with No hoper Yuvraj

  • on July 28, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    I think in these conditions India can better play with 4 seamers in Ishant, Praveen, Sreesanth & Munaf. Harbajan is not really bowling well & the conditions does not suit him as well. Or else if they want a regular spinner they could play Mishra ahead of Munaf since Mishra has many variations & he turns the ball well. England is susceptible to Leg breaks & they fall often. He has a threatening googly in his arsenal as well.

  • jyeruva on July 28, 2011, 13:47 GMT

    harbajan Should be Dropped. Then India Can win. No worth Wasting a player who is Completely ineffective. I Feel Even I can play well in his bowling having played sub division leagues. India past year always playing with 3 bowlers only Since he is not at all bowling Anything.

  • kingscorpio on July 28, 2011, 13:25 GMT

    Bhajji should be dropped.He will not be effective at all in english conditions.Of course he will not be effective anywhere other than the sub continent.

  • on July 28, 2011, 13:02 GMT

    (Note: Morgan and Prior both had centuries at Trent Bridge against Pakistan last year)

    Should be an interesting game. Even without Zaheer, PK and especially Ishant should be a handful on a good bowling track. English batsmen are in good form overall, but they have yet to impress on this track, while the Indian middle looks pretty solid. I agree with those Indian fans who suggest that India might do well to go with four pacers- Ishant, PK, Munaf Patel, and Sreesanth. Raina can fill in with spin when needed. As for the opening situation, I'm not sure: Dravid certainly could open the batting with Gambhir, but that's not his natural position, these days at least. But adding Yuvi for Mukund would provide more variety. Dravid and Gambhir probably are the kind of opening batsmen you want on a tough batting track like this one. Anderson, Broad, and Tremlett certainly will be tough to handle, and if the batting goes on long enough, Swann is always a threat.

  • S.N.Singh on July 28, 2011, 12:09 GMT

    INDIA HAS TO WITH FIVE BOWLERS, INCLUDE YUV RAJ, MISHRA.HARBHAJAN HAS TO BE THERE MOSTLY FOR THE LEFT HANDER. WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THE CHANCE WITH TWO SEAMERS. REST ZAHEER. MUTHUM WILL HAVE TO WAIT. INDIA BATTING IS NOT GETTIN A GOOD START,THEY HAVE TO PUT DRAVID WITH GAMBHIR. CARRY FOUR RECOGNIZED FOWLERS WITH YUV RAJ AND RINA AS SPARE WITH PARVEEN AND ISHANT, SREESANT SHOULD BE TRIED BECAUSE HE IS FASTER THAN ALL THE BOWLER AND INDIA NEED TO HAVE A A FAST BOWLERS BECAUSE THE ENGLISH BATSMEN PLAYING LATE AND PUSHING ON THE LEG SIDE. IT IS DIFFICULT FO SELECT A TEAM AND TO GET RAINA AND YUVRAJ. MISHRA WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE ENGLISH BATSMEN. SHANE WARNE WAS ALWAY HAZAIOUS TO THEM. INDIA HAVE GOT THE EARLY BATSMEN, BUT CAN'T GET THE MIDDLE AND TAILENDERS ? SREESANT IS THE FASTEST IN TH INDIAN SIDE PROBABLY HE CAN DO THE JOB. S.N.SINGH U. S.A .

  • on July 28, 2011, 11:52 GMT

    Reason the batting averages have dropped is due to the building work over the last decade. It's turned the venue into swing city and Anderson in particular hoops the thing round corners at pace. He was virtually unplayable in the last 2 test matches there. Don't be surprised if the test is over in 3 days with 300 being a match winning score.

  • Gazzypops on July 28, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    I fear for England in the second Test. Even tho' everyone's been going on and on about the bouncebackability of India (which is irritating - if you're not very good at starting a series, do something about it!), I think the relative team records at Trent Bridge make for a decisive result for India... As an England supporter, I hope I'm wrong - especially as I'm going to the second day's play (first time ever at a cricket match). Should I take an Indian flag?!

  • hydpearl on July 28, 2011, 11:34 GMT

    according to me the playing eleven shud be Gamdhir, Dravid, Sachin, Laxman, Raina, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Praveen, zaheer/sreesant, Ishant, Munaf. by doing this team India is going to strengthen both bowling and batting department yuvraj can be handy spinner if his spin is not required there will be 4 seam bowlers who can utilize the seaming overcast conditions..

  • Arvi02 on July 28, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    TEAM FOR NEXT MATCH SHOULD BE ..... 1. GAMBHIR 2. DRAVID 3.LAXMAN 4.SACHIN 5. YUVRAJ 6.RAINA 7. DHONI 8.MISHRA 9.PRAVEEN 10.SHREESANT 11.ISHANT

    THEN RESULT WOULD BE IN INDIA's FAVOUR THATS SURE.

    REASON FOR CHANGES: 1. HARBHAJAN OUT OF FORM, MISHRA AS LEG SPINNER WILL HELP TO CAUSE DIFFICULTY FOR ENGLISH BATSMAN.

    2. SHREESANT CAN BE INDIA's BEST ANS FOR PACE, SEEM, BOUNCE (HE IS A WICKET TAKING BOWLER). ON HIS DAY HE CAN BE SUPERB ANS,......

    3. DRAVID CAN OPEN JUST LIKE 1ST TEST, SO THAT WE CAN GO WITH YUVI. WHO IS IN FORM OF HIS LIFE WITH BOTH BAT n BOWL

  • pirki on July 28, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    I think the world champs are the most famous flat track bullies. Without Sehwag and zaheer it's impossible for the old aged flat track bullies to pull their coutry out of trouble. After this test it's 2-0 for England. No arguments

  • on July 28, 2011, 10:53 GMT

    The team should be Gambhir,Dravid,Laxman,Tendulakar,Yuvraj,Raina,Dhoni,Mishra,Praveen,Ishant,Munaf/Sreesanth... Sorry for Mukund..The guy has been doing well but Yuvraj wins the battle for his bowling and superior fielding(We all know how well Kevin Peterson,last match's MOM plays left arm spin) Harbhajan....I think its time to go(not for his bowling but for the shot he played to get out in the 2nd inngs...absolutely reckless)

  • on July 28, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    I think India should play four pace bowlers:Sreesanth, Kumar, Sharma and Munaf Patel. WHy do i suggest this I hear you ask? well because Trent bridge has little spin in thw wicket and lets be honest both Mishra and Harb Singh are very ordinary spinners. I dont rate them at all. What happened to the mightly Indian spinners of old? India need to face the fact that they havent produced a high quality spin bowler in many many years. I know some of you may suggest Kumble but he wasn't a prodigious spinner of the ball..he relied on flight and angles. Harb singh tries to contain the batsman rather than take wickets and as for Mishra well his bowling is a joke as he usually goes for about 5 runs an over.

  • parasaneja on July 28, 2011, 10:45 GMT

    injured zaheer & offtone harbhajan should be dropped. sreesanth & mishra should be given a chance. there is no need to change the batting lineup.it was the contribution of indian bowlers in first innings of first test which helped english batsman a lot to impose a big score

  • on July 28, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    @ Cricketsphere"in england matches are NEVER WON BY BOWLERS, BUT LOST By BATSMEN" What a strange statement, anyone who has watched cricket in England (or anywhere) knows that bowlers can and do win matches. The game isn't decided by only the batting or bowling but both, to claim only one matters is to ignore half the game.

  • demon_bowler on July 28, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    The main reason spinners haven't had much impact at TB in recent years is because there has been no need for them -- the seamers have done all the damage! Jimmy's record at the venue is outstanding, but the one poor match he had there was against India in 2007. He'd only just been recalled to the side, though, and was not half the bowler he is today. How different from the old days, when Trent Bridge used to be a batting paradise, and there were high-scoring draws there more often than not.

  • Fifthman on July 28, 2011, 10:06 GMT

    I'd actually be more concerned about England's batting at Trent Bridge; their statistics are pretty dreadful, especially compared to India. It looks like it will be a battle between England's strong bowling attack and India's strong batting line-up. On the other side of the coin, both India's bowling and England's batting look fragile at Trent Bridge.

    Should be a fascinating contest, and much tighter than at Lords. I wouldn't like to pick a winner.

  • kamriyas on July 28, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    Its time to drop Harbhajan Singh. Otherwise, it is impossible to prevent the loss. Praveen Kumar, Ishant, Zaheer or Sreesanth and Amit Mishra. Shane Warne was effective in this pitch, so Mishra should be the spinner. Yuvraj Singh instead of Raina can give good strength to the Indian attack. Bhajji is never a threat to any batsmen, even for the tail-enders.

  • 5wombats on July 28, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Just check the betting odds on this Test Match; England 11/10, India 7/2, Draw 15/8. You don't often get odds like that, and bookies rarely go out of business. I have a feeling that for india the Trent Bridge Test will be a bit like the guy sitting in the middle of the ripe wheat field listening to his ipod on headphones at full blast - he doesn't hear the Combine Harvester marked "England" coming along....

  • on July 28, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Drop Mukund and Harbajan, include Munaf+ Sreesanth+Yuvraj. Let Dravid and Gambir open the innings ( since many times Dravid coming to crease just like an opener as we loose both openers so early). I dont understand why Dhoni still need harbajan ???!! India need a fresh and innvovative spinner for future. Harbajan's career almost to an end...

  • Petefen on July 28, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    I think the main difference between the sides here and throughout the series will be England's ability to take 20 wickets which I think India will struggle to do.Another difference is India's terrible ground fielding which cost them 30-40 runs in the First Test and in a tight series could be the difference between winning and losing

  • Cricketsphere on July 28, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    The whole commentery by naive people who have not even lifted a bat themselves in their lives is quite interesting. All of these guys are damning the bolwers, especially Harbhajan (English people are smarter, they are silent about Swann non-performance at Lords) - oh come on, guys, in england matches are NEVER WON BY BOWLERS, BUT LOST By BATSMEN. This is what happned at Lords - and this is what is going to happen tomorrow onwards. The team who bats the last day will win the test. Bat, I say, Bat.

  • on July 28, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    My suggestions:

    - Bat well and bat England out of the game. Make sure that you are posting a total of at least 500 plus.

    - Field well. Do not give away tuns, do not drop catches and strangulate the England batsmen.

    - Bowlers: Go with a mindset that Zaheer is not available but this is my opportunity to make a real mark. Bowl with sustained intensity.

  • on July 28, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    Indian team always enjoys bowler friendly conditions because for Indian attack to get 20 wickets , it needs help from pitch but the formidable batting lineup has the ability to survive on any bowler/ pacer friendly tracks because of presence of players like SRT & Dravid… Those records goes show that Sachin has been superb on these sort of toughest batting venues.. But India will surely miss Sehwag whose record at the venue is also superb…. If it's a green pacer friendly track with some bounce on it then Bhajji also will enjoy bowling on it as we saw in SA tour.. Bhajji's bowling depends more on bounce than turn… So India would be hoping for a bouncy track so that they can bounce back in the series…..

  • m_kamb on July 28, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    INDIA CAN BOUNCE BACK WITH THE HELP OF WRONG DECISIONS,LIKE THEY DID BEFORE m_kamb@yahoo.co.uk

  • on July 28, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    India should go with 4 fast bowlers ( praveen, ishant, sree, munaf/zak/ fresh swing bowler/irfan and 1 spin bowler. they have 3 batting legends sachin, dravid, laxman and 1 keeper and 2 openers

  • on July 28, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    I say, drop Bhajji, go in with four pacers: Ishant, Praveen, Sreesanth and Munaf. If I'd be brave to think that Yuvraj the batsman can survive on this pitch, I'll pick him instead of Raina at 6 - for his bowling.

  • BalaSenty on July 28, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Cricketing Legend J Boycott already told that Indians can't bounce back as India lack quality bowlers. Its true. India needs to show its strength in batting. What is the use of having Sachi, Laxman, Dravid, Dhoni, Gambir if we could not pile up huge score! Mukund, Raina or Yuvaraj should use their chance, if not India will be toppled from No.1 Why can's India give a BREAK for Harbhajan and play Yuvaraj and Raina, both can bowl. India should win in Trent Bridge otherwise it is all OVER. God bless Indian Cricket, funny isn't it!!!!!!!!!!

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  • BalaSenty on July 28, 2011, 6:55 GMT

    Cricketing Legend J Boycott already told that Indians can't bounce back as India lack quality bowlers. Its true. India needs to show its strength in batting. What is the use of having Sachi, Laxman, Dravid, Dhoni, Gambir if we could not pile up huge score! Mukund, Raina or Yuvaraj should use their chance, if not India will be toppled from No.1 Why can's India give a BREAK for Harbhajan and play Yuvaraj and Raina, both can bowl. India should win in Trent Bridge otherwise it is all OVER. God bless Indian Cricket, funny isn't it!!!!!!!!!!

  • on July 28, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    I say, drop Bhajji, go in with four pacers: Ishant, Praveen, Sreesanth and Munaf. If I'd be brave to think that Yuvraj the batsman can survive on this pitch, I'll pick him instead of Raina at 6 - for his bowling.

  • on July 28, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    India should go with 4 fast bowlers ( praveen, ishant, sree, munaf/zak/ fresh swing bowler/irfan and 1 spin bowler. they have 3 batting legends sachin, dravid, laxman and 1 keeper and 2 openers

  • m_kamb on July 28, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    INDIA CAN BOUNCE BACK WITH THE HELP OF WRONG DECISIONS,LIKE THEY DID BEFORE m_kamb@yahoo.co.uk

  • on July 28, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    Indian team always enjoys bowler friendly conditions because for Indian attack to get 20 wickets , it needs help from pitch but the formidable batting lineup has the ability to survive on any bowler/ pacer friendly tracks because of presence of players like SRT & Dravid… Those records goes show that Sachin has been superb on these sort of toughest batting venues.. But India will surely miss Sehwag whose record at the venue is also superb…. If it's a green pacer friendly track with some bounce on it then Bhajji also will enjoy bowling on it as we saw in SA tour.. Bhajji's bowling depends more on bounce than turn… So India would be hoping for a bouncy track so that they can bounce back in the series…..

  • on July 28, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    My suggestions:

    - Bat well and bat England out of the game. Make sure that you are posting a total of at least 500 plus.

    - Field well. Do not give away tuns, do not drop catches and strangulate the England batsmen.

    - Bowlers: Go with a mindset that Zaheer is not available but this is my opportunity to make a real mark. Bowl with sustained intensity.

  • Cricketsphere on July 28, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    The whole commentery by naive people who have not even lifted a bat themselves in their lives is quite interesting. All of these guys are damning the bolwers, especially Harbhajan (English people are smarter, they are silent about Swann non-performance at Lords) - oh come on, guys, in england matches are NEVER WON BY BOWLERS, BUT LOST By BATSMEN. This is what happned at Lords - and this is what is going to happen tomorrow onwards. The team who bats the last day will win the test. Bat, I say, Bat.

  • Petefen on July 28, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    I think the main difference between the sides here and throughout the series will be England's ability to take 20 wickets which I think India will struggle to do.Another difference is India's terrible ground fielding which cost them 30-40 runs in the First Test and in a tight series could be the difference between winning and losing

  • on July 28, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Drop Mukund and Harbajan, include Munaf+ Sreesanth+Yuvraj. Let Dravid and Gambir open the innings ( since many times Dravid coming to crease just like an opener as we loose both openers so early). I dont understand why Dhoni still need harbajan ???!! India need a fresh and innvovative spinner for future. Harbajan's career almost to an end...

  • 5wombats on July 28, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    Just check the betting odds on this Test Match; England 11/10, India 7/2, Draw 15/8. You don't often get odds like that, and bookies rarely go out of business. I have a feeling that for india the Trent Bridge Test will be a bit like the guy sitting in the middle of the ripe wheat field listening to his ipod on headphones at full blast - he doesn't hear the Combine Harvester marked "England" coming along....