India A v England XI, tour match, Mumbai, 1st day October 31, 2012

Injured Finn out of tour game

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Steven Finn, the England fast bowler, has been ruled out of the remainder of the tour match against India A in Mumbai due to a thigh injury.* Finn left the field with an injury inside the first hour of play on day one at the Brabourne Stadium. Finn was reported to have suffered discomfort to his right thigh and underwent a scan in the evening.

"Steven Finn has been ruled out of the remainder of the three-day game with a right thigh strain," team spokeswoman Rhian Evans said. "He will be assessed over the next couple of days to determine a rehabilitation programme."

Finn took the new ball and bowled three overs in his first spell after India A chose to bat. He walked off after bowling one over in his second and did not return, with Jonathan Trott filling in for a few overs with his medium pace.

Tim Bresnan, who replaced Finn after his opening burst, had a hand in the first two wickets to fall and ended the day with 3 for 59. James Anderson claimed a single wicket from 17 overs, as England chose to rest vice-captain Stuart Broad. Graham Onions is the other fast-bowling option in the squad.

"Obviously we're disappointed one of our fast bowlers had to go off," Bresnan said of Finn after the first day. "But it's one of those things where you just have to step up a bit, and each of you has to take on his responsibility."

"We're not sure what's happening. The doc will check him out back at the hotel. All we know is it's hurting, and scans will reveal more."

England went with allrounder Samit Patel as their second spinner, ahead of Monty Panesar, and there was also no place for Jonny Bairstow or Eoin Morgan. Kevin Pietersen made his expected return and Nick Compton was preferred as opener to Joe Root.

Graeme Swann claimed three wickets for England as India A closed the day on 369 for 9. Manoj Tiwary fell seven short of a century, with Abhinav Mukund and Yuvraj Singh also contributing fifties as India A recovered from a precarious 190 for 6.

* - 0600 GMT, October 31 - Updated after official confirmation of his withdrawal

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  • JG2704 on November 1, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    @sportofpain - Thankyou. Yes, understand about a 5th bowler being underused but feel that our 6th batsman has been a weakness.Apart from Jonny 3rd SA test I can't recall an inns in recent times where our 6th batsman has helped alter the course of a match.And if a bowler is underused then logic would say the other 4 are doing the business so that's a good sign.If you only have 4 genuine bowling options then you're in trouble and in bigger trouble if one gets injured.An example of where my theory might have worked was the 1st test vs SA.We couln't break through with the 4 bowlers we had and when you look what Bopara did in that match as a 6th bat or any 6th bat in recent times a 5th bowling option just might have made a crucial breakthrough.Obviously it might have panned out the same but another main point is that because of how little the no 6 has contributed the batting would only be weakened on paper. Woakes would have been an ideal selection as his batting has been very decent too

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 1, 2012, 4:41 GMT

    Finn will go all around the park just like the last ODI series. Much hyped bowler.

  • foursandsixes on November 1, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    @phoenixsteve Chin music in India? it will be more like waist music that Yuvraj will hit Broad out of the ground again six times in a row. You guys better learn to tip toe and dance to the spin :)

  • sportofpain on November 1, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    @JG2704: i agree with you. That was an awesome bowling combination. Ultimately it is bowlers who win matches - the question that remains to be answered is if a team plays 5 bowlers will one of those bowlers be underutilized. Regardless while selecting a bowling unit the priority has to be on wicket takers - for me the choice b/w Samit Patel and Monty is pretty straightforward - pick the bloke who is the better bowler. In fact regardless of number - 4 or 5- you should pick the best bowlers - if they happen to be 4 pacers so be it (remember a certain gent called Clive Lloyd) and if they happen to be 4 spinners so be it (remember a certain gent called MAK Pataudi). 2 fast + 2 spin or 3+1 is pure dogma.

  • GasPipe on October 31, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    @Trickstar That's why I really like the England bowlers as a unit: when one of them is down on form and not bowling well, another steps up to take his place as leader of the attack. Broad has done it, Anderson has done it on many occasions (being the natural leader anyway), and Finn has proved he can do it. And with bowlers such as Onions and Tremlett in the wings who provide their own style and challenges for batsmen, England really are spoilt for choice with quality seam and swing bowlers all capable of being leaders. The only time I have seen their pace attack completely nonplussed and impotent was the test match in which Amla struck his marathon 311, but against batting like that it must be pretty disheartening as a bowler.

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2012, 20:48 GMT

    @Harmony111 on (October 31 2012, 09:17 AM GMT) To be fair not one England fan used Bres being injured as an excuse for UAE or SL and very few England fans used KP as an excuse for a poor WC. Finn is a blow esp for the man himself. Also what has Finn done in tests in SC conditions which puts him above the pack? For the record Finn probably wouldn't have been in my starting 11? Please publish this time - nothing whatsoever of offence OR at all untrue.

  • Trickstar on October 31, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    @Harmony111 I agree Finn is a exciting talent and we need him fit and firing but I'm not sure how you can say he's the only England bowler that can bowl in all condition, didn't you see Anderson bowl in Aus or the UAE and especially in Sri Lanka, where he was amazing. Finn while good hasn't been anywhere near as good as Jimmy has been abroad. Broad was unplayable in the UAE and proved how well he can bowl in those conditions As for the bowling options, I don't think England will risk going in with Monty as the fifth bowler, we need batting strength and Patel brings that. In the UAE & SL we didn't have any trouble knocking teams over, it was the batting that was a shambles.

  • Nayel_19 on October 31, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    @ landl47 on (October 31 2012, 11:51 AM GMT) Dont you think playing 3 spinners will be a disadvantage for England?? I mean playing spin for Indian batsmen is like bread & butter...Add to that playing 3 spinners means palying 2 pacers which is not the way England should go on this tour.They have to play 3 pacers in Finn,Bresnan & Broad/Anderson.Pitches are going to be flat & spinner friendly we all know that & we also know that India play spin very well that is why England have to attack with their pacers..With sheer pace & line length. I will pick Patel as my 2nd spinner as he can bat too.my XI would be: Cook,Compton,Trott,KP,Bell,Prior,Patel,Bresnan,Swann,Anderson,Finn.(i would fancy having Morgan in the XI but for that Bell has to open which is very unlikely)

  • phoenixsteve on October 31, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Come on giys give Finny and the professionals a break? He's human and subject to injuries that can't be foreseen. Now if if he were a machine it'd be different. I always think of genuine quicks like Finn, Morkel, Patterson as being right on the edge and having to put in maximum effort? The likes of Bresnan and Anderson can throttle back a bit. A good analogy is comparing the skills required in F1 Motorcycles to F1 cars. If you've ever watched or know anything about the bikes you'll appreciate that these guys are always right on the edge! I'm hoping England bat 'til tea and give the Indians a target of 150 in a session and let's see how they like some chin music and pressure! COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    @landl47 on (October 31 2012, 11:51 AM GMT) Yes - it may be a gamble in many people's eyes but to me it's not. Our number 6 batsman slot has been a walking disaster and apart from Jonny vs SA (and Jonny looked terrible vs spin albeit in a different format) so why not go all out to try and reduce the side batting 1sts score rather than outscore the team. I still say our best side in recent decades was the 2005 Ashes side and that was a 5/1/5 and from 6 down was Flintoff,G Jones,Giles,Hoggard,S Jones,Harmisson. Would Prior,Bres,Swann,Jimmy,Onions,Monty be that much worse?Even Monty has helped save matches with the bat as has Onions. The safety first approach (6 batsmen) has by and large let us down this year and we've not tried this formation for some time. Also re putting Monty in instead of a quick , what if the pacer gets injured (like Finn) and we just have one pace man for the test? Broad and Bres in particular are very injury prone

  • JG2704 on November 1, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    @sportofpain - Thankyou. Yes, understand about a 5th bowler being underused but feel that our 6th batsman has been a weakness.Apart from Jonny 3rd SA test I can't recall an inns in recent times where our 6th batsman has helped alter the course of a match.And if a bowler is underused then logic would say the other 4 are doing the business so that's a good sign.If you only have 4 genuine bowling options then you're in trouble and in bigger trouble if one gets injured.An example of where my theory might have worked was the 1st test vs SA.We couln't break through with the 4 bowlers we had and when you look what Bopara did in that match as a 6th bat or any 6th bat in recent times a 5th bowling option just might have made a crucial breakthrough.Obviously it might have panned out the same but another main point is that because of how little the no 6 has contributed the batting would only be weakened on paper. Woakes would have been an ideal selection as his batting has been very decent too

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 1, 2012, 4:41 GMT

    Finn will go all around the park just like the last ODI series. Much hyped bowler.

  • foursandsixes on November 1, 2012, 2:30 GMT

    @phoenixsteve Chin music in India? it will be more like waist music that Yuvraj will hit Broad out of the ground again six times in a row. You guys better learn to tip toe and dance to the spin :)

  • sportofpain on November 1, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    @JG2704: i agree with you. That was an awesome bowling combination. Ultimately it is bowlers who win matches - the question that remains to be answered is if a team plays 5 bowlers will one of those bowlers be underutilized. Regardless while selecting a bowling unit the priority has to be on wicket takers - for me the choice b/w Samit Patel and Monty is pretty straightforward - pick the bloke who is the better bowler. In fact regardless of number - 4 or 5- you should pick the best bowlers - if they happen to be 4 pacers so be it (remember a certain gent called Clive Lloyd) and if they happen to be 4 spinners so be it (remember a certain gent called MAK Pataudi). 2 fast + 2 spin or 3+1 is pure dogma.

  • GasPipe on October 31, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    @Trickstar That's why I really like the England bowlers as a unit: when one of them is down on form and not bowling well, another steps up to take his place as leader of the attack. Broad has done it, Anderson has done it on many occasions (being the natural leader anyway), and Finn has proved he can do it. And with bowlers such as Onions and Tremlett in the wings who provide their own style and challenges for batsmen, England really are spoilt for choice with quality seam and swing bowlers all capable of being leaders. The only time I have seen their pace attack completely nonplussed and impotent was the test match in which Amla struck his marathon 311, but against batting like that it must be pretty disheartening as a bowler.

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2012, 20:48 GMT

    @Harmony111 on (October 31 2012, 09:17 AM GMT) To be fair not one England fan used Bres being injured as an excuse for UAE or SL and very few England fans used KP as an excuse for a poor WC. Finn is a blow esp for the man himself. Also what has Finn done in tests in SC conditions which puts him above the pack? For the record Finn probably wouldn't have been in my starting 11? Please publish this time - nothing whatsoever of offence OR at all untrue.

  • Trickstar on October 31, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    @Harmony111 I agree Finn is a exciting talent and we need him fit and firing but I'm not sure how you can say he's the only England bowler that can bowl in all condition, didn't you see Anderson bowl in Aus or the UAE and especially in Sri Lanka, where he was amazing. Finn while good hasn't been anywhere near as good as Jimmy has been abroad. Broad was unplayable in the UAE and proved how well he can bowl in those conditions As for the bowling options, I don't think England will risk going in with Monty as the fifth bowler, we need batting strength and Patel brings that. In the UAE & SL we didn't have any trouble knocking teams over, it was the batting that was a shambles.

  • Nayel_19 on October 31, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    @ landl47 on (October 31 2012, 11:51 AM GMT) Dont you think playing 3 spinners will be a disadvantage for England?? I mean playing spin for Indian batsmen is like bread & butter...Add to that playing 3 spinners means palying 2 pacers which is not the way England should go on this tour.They have to play 3 pacers in Finn,Bresnan & Broad/Anderson.Pitches are going to be flat & spinner friendly we all know that & we also know that India play spin very well that is why England have to attack with their pacers..With sheer pace & line length. I will pick Patel as my 2nd spinner as he can bat too.my XI would be: Cook,Compton,Trott,KP,Bell,Prior,Patel,Bresnan,Swann,Anderson,Finn.(i would fancy having Morgan in the XI but for that Bell has to open which is very unlikely)

  • phoenixsteve on October 31, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Come on giys give Finny and the professionals a break? He's human and subject to injuries that can't be foreseen. Now if if he were a machine it'd be different. I always think of genuine quicks like Finn, Morkel, Patterson as being right on the edge and having to put in maximum effort? The likes of Bresnan and Anderson can throttle back a bit. A good analogy is comparing the skills required in F1 Motorcycles to F1 cars. If you've ever watched or know anything about the bikes you'll appreciate that these guys are always right on the edge! I'm hoping England bat 'til tea and give the Indians a target of 150 in a session and let's see how they like some chin music and pressure! COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • JG2704 on October 31, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    @landl47 on (October 31 2012, 11:51 AM GMT) Yes - it may be a gamble in many people's eyes but to me it's not. Our number 6 batsman slot has been a walking disaster and apart from Jonny vs SA (and Jonny looked terrible vs spin albeit in a different format) so why not go all out to try and reduce the side batting 1sts score rather than outscore the team. I still say our best side in recent decades was the 2005 Ashes side and that was a 5/1/5 and from 6 down was Flintoff,G Jones,Giles,Hoggard,S Jones,Harmisson. Would Prior,Bres,Swann,Jimmy,Onions,Monty be that much worse?Even Monty has helped save matches with the bat as has Onions. The safety first approach (6 batsmen) has by and large let us down this year and we've not tried this formation for some time. Also re putting Monty in instead of a quick , what if the pacer gets injured (like Finn) and we just have one pace man for the test? Broad and Bres in particular are very injury prone

  • InsideHedge on October 31, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    Remember when Fred Trueman, during his 1980s appearances on TMS Radio, used to bang on about how they bowled close to a 1000 overs EVERY county SEASON during his playing days? There was a general mocking response from all and sundry, Fred was living in the past, they opined. This bloke Finn may look like a male model who can grace the pages of GQ, etc but he's broken down FOUR OVERS into a tour game. I can't even begin to comprehend.

  • Dr.Vindaloo on October 31, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Questions must be asked of the England 'conditioning coaches'. Finn is in his early 20's, subject to a carefully designed physical conditioning programme, mothballed for many of England's games to prevent burn-out....and then he breaks down 4 overs into a critical tour. If that's modern physiotherapy at work then let's return to the traditional method of making fast bowlers bowl 100 overs to attain full fitness.

  • jmcilhinney on October 31, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    Obviously I hope that this injury doesn't keep Finn out of the whole tour but, if it does, it will be interesting to see who he is replaced with. I didn't realise Onions was already in the squad so he obviously won't be the one. Given history, you'd expect it to be Chris Tremlett, assuming that he's fit and back bowling as he was. Anyone know his current status?

  • landl47 on October 31, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    @JG2704: would you seriously play Anderson, Broad, Finn, Swann and Panesar in the same team- or even have Bresnan replacing one of the seamers and batting at #7? I'm not against having Panesar in the side, but it would have to be at the expense of one of the quick bowlers. The problem for England in the UAE wasn't bowling Pakistan out; they only had one decent partnership the whole series. England just couldn't score runs. Patel is a much better option at #7 as a batsman and third spinner, which from all accounts is what is going to be needed on the pitches likely to be prepared for this series. Don't forget, in the one test England won in the winter, against Sri Lanka, Panesar didn't play and Patel was the back-up spinner. He bowled tidily (economy rate of just over 2) and Swann rolled them over. 2 seamers, 2 spinners + Patel is fine, but 3 seamers + 2 spinners leaves the batting too weak (which it might be anyway).

  • sachin_vvsfan on October 31, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    For a minute i thought he was out of entire tour but no he was out of practice game only.

  • Nayel_19 on October 31, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    @JG2704 on (October 30 2012, 21:21 PM GMT) I hope you are looking at the score esp Patel's score.Still think Monty ahead of Patel??.The problem with the England team is that they dont have some part timers like Sehwag,Raina,Rohit,Tiwary...Ever there was 1 or 2 like them then they could have afforded to pick Monty ahead of Patel.I will always have Patel in my team in this conditions as a Batsman who can bowl a bit...

  • Harmony111 on October 31, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    The injury is unfortunate. I hope it heals quickly and does not prevent Finn from playing in the tests. Finn is the one Eng bowler I like to see bowl cos he seems to be in in all conditions unlike Jimmy et al. Moreover, although the test series result is not decided yet and it might be 1-0 or 2-0 or even 1-1, I do not want any English excuses that they lost or couldn't win the series cos they lacked Finn. Finn's presence gives an edge to Eng bowling and enhances the flavor of watching the match. It is a bit like Sehwag getting back in form before the tests - the pleasure of watching will increase manifolds then.

  • sachin_vvsfan on October 31, 2012, 7:48 GMT

    @street_smart i am here mate. Yes this is not counted as it is not only A match but also happened at our own deck. Just like how he scored 100 against WI. FYI i am not fan of rohit/raina (or dhoni )for that matter in Test cricket). If all that we have to choose is between tiwary/rohit/raina for num 6 then it shows our lack of depth in Test cricket. We have found only one replacement for dravid/vvs/ganguly in kholi. I still have doubts in pujara (he is good in sub continent but wasn't good enough in SA but he has the desire to perform in longer formats and i hope he will learn). Get real yuvi will play a head of raina/tiwary. So no chance for tiwary/rainas/rohits.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 31, 2012, 5:02 GMT

    I feel his bowling action has something to do with his injury. His action isn't among the smoothest we get to see. Hope he has a quick and complete recovery.

  • satish619chandar on October 31, 2012, 3:05 GMT

    Finn is a very good bowler but if i honestly doubt whether his absence will have a say in the outcome. First of all, with spin tracks predicted, not sure whether Finn will get a place as a starter. Anderson is a certain starter. Given England's backing of Broad, he should get the second seamer slot. Two spin attack should be on cards. If some are going to equate it to loss of Zak in England, they are just playing a bad card. Swann would be the guy equal to Zaheer in these conditions. If Swann gets injured in first session of first game and leaves the tour, it will be same as Zaheer in England. Apart from that, none will come closer. Not even Anderson.

  • vrn59 on October 31, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    England will really be praying for Finn's fitness. When India toured England last year, Sehwag wasn't even in the starting XI as he was recovering from a shoulder injury. Zaheer hobbled off the field on the first day of the series with a hamstring strain, and stayed out of the whole tour due to an ankle injury that followed. Tendulkar was suffering from a viral infection, and Harbhajan was ruled out after pulling a stomach muscle in the second Test. Gambhir suffered a concussion whilst fielding, and Praveen Kumar, Munaf Patel and Rohit Sharma all suffered injuries in the latter half of the series. The 'No. 1' Test team in the world was whitewashed 4-0 in the Test series, and then returned winless from the ODI and Twenty20 series that followed. England must be careful to avoid such injuries, although they aren't quite so feeble. A fully fit Finn is a big plus for England, even if he ends up sitting on the bench anyway (if both Broad and Panesar play).

  • Nampally on October 31, 2012, 1:10 GMT

    If Finn's injury is similar to Zaheer's, it will take few weeks to recover fully.Quad & hamstring injuries are difficult to mend fast. So England should be getting a replacement for Finn. @Wynand80: No team deserves the injuries India faced on the England tour. Yes, If KP, Trott & Swann are injured, then suddenly it is a back up team, as India was without regular opening batsmen & opening bowler + several others. Some fast bowlers are prone to ground conditions while running. Softer England conditions are safer for the legs than harder ones in India. Also softer conditions need different spikes to avoid slipping from those on harder surfaces. It looks like ZAK & Finn are more prone to these conditions & need time to adjust. Both were injured in the very first match.

  • Meety on October 31, 2012, 0:18 GMT

    Uh oh! Now Finn's injury is going to bring back the tired old arguements about injuries last time these two teams squared off in a Test series. Injuries happen, India had a disrupted series & got flogged. England's series has been disrupted by the KP saga & now Finn's injury. Regardless of that I doubt that it will be used as an excuse by team mamnagement & I doubt that England will turn into the rabble that was India in England.

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 31, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    I wish Finn good luck with this injury. But seriously, England will have to first fight off the Indian climate before focusing on team India. It's not easy coming from a cold and wet climate to a warm and humid nation. As the series progresses, I expect more England players to struggle. But nevertheless, it will be a good test of the English players' character and mental toughness. The Indians will keep that in mind and will try to suffocate England even more.

  • A_Vacant_Slip on October 30, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur on (October 30 2012, 15:44 PM GMT) considering how many India player cried off and left during recent India tour of England (Harbhajan, Zaheer, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Kumar...) in 2011 don't you think it is a bit rich trying to lecture about "fragile". India player are the most "fragile" on the planet.

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    @Paul Rone-Clarke on (October 30 2012, 18:23 PM GMT) To be fair they started the game with 4 bowlers (Finn,Jimmy,Bres and Swann) plus Patel. This is another reason why I like the 5/1/5 attack and like you I'd have Monty in ahead of Patel but this is England we're talking about and our selectors don't do things that way.

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    @davidpk on (October 30 2012, 16:02 PM GMT) Personally - even if we do badly in this one - I'm not against them playing an India A side in one of the warm up games (even the 1st one). I remember we played some poor sides (not my words) in the UAE warm up games and did well in them and we all know what happened in the full series. Maybe it won't be such a shock when we play the full side if we have some tougher warm up games.

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur on (October 30 2012, 15:44 PM GMT) So does this mean we are unfortunate with our bowlers getting injured in your eyes? Bear in mind the injuries in the last India tour of England when answering. Not that you will

  • JG2704 on October 30, 2012, 21:20 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (October 30 2012, 11:16 AM GMT) Is Onions not already there? I would have Onions in my side above Finn anyway

  • Meety on October 30, 2012, 20:50 GMT

    @ Front-Foot_lunge on (October 30 2012, 12:59 PM GMT) - yes where's Red&White Army - the one that gloated on an Ozzy injury last week?????? == == == Sorry to hear about Finn. I was looking forward to seeing where Finn's development really was at. Stats-wise he is very good, (even in the SC), but until he works the Bangladesh quirk out of his figures I had a big ?-mark next to him. Hopefully he will get into the series - in what should be tough work for him. I feel he was the bowler to most trouble SRT.

  • on October 30, 2012, 18:23 GMT

    4 bowlers and one of them is Samit Patel. That's not good. If you only have 4 they have to be your BEST - and Panesar is Miiiilleeessss ahead of Patel as a spinner. After the great series Monty had last year - to not be auto second spinner choice now in a side that's playing 2 spinners. Man that's GOTTA hurt! Wrong decision in my book. Very wrong. As for raking up the past. What heapened in 2001, 2006, 1984... What's that got to do with anything now? In just over two weeks it's game on, and the past counts for nothing.

  • Wynand80 on October 30, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    @mikey76, why let facts come in the way of a good rant. India began the tour without Sehwag. On the first day of the test, Zaheer hobbled away with injury. On the third day, Gambhir is hit on the leg by Prior and therefore cannot open in the fourth innings. So lets see India begin series without their master opening bat, lose another opening bat in the second innings, lose their top pace bowler on day 1. India play their second test without these three. Now India lost the test series and thats that but there was a lot of bad luck (and planning) involved. To say that Zaheer breaking down is bad fitness and Finn breaking down is bad luck smacks of hypocracy. Ill tell you what if England were to commence this tour without Swann, KP and Trott due to injury then I bet you would argue that bad luck was the reason you lost! On the aside, let me assure you, the pitches will turn but they wont be rank turners - and England will get their backsides walloped in India (again)!

  • vrn59 on October 30, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    Finn's could-be injury is a big loss to England. He is their only bowler with express pace, and he can extract uneven bounce off the wicket with his height. This opens the door for Broad though, although he was probably in the first XI anyway. My ENG XI: Cook (C), Compton, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Bairstow, Prior (wk), Broad, Swann, Anderson, Panesar. It would be an interesting gamble to bring in Bresnan for Bairstow. It would weaken the lower middle order a bit, with Prior at No. 6 and Bresnan at No. 7, but would seriously strengthen the bowling attack with three frontline seamers and two specialist spinners. Morgan / Bairstow could be considered as temporary replacements for Bell when he leaves for England during the second Test in Mumbai. If the main players stay fit, this side looks pretty good, though a lot depends on how the batsmen acclimatise to the conditions in India and how they tackle the Indian bowling attack, especially the spinners.

  • Narkovian on October 30, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    FINN Thigh Injury. I suggest he stops bashing his thigh on the stumps.!! How annoying is that by the way ?

  • on October 30, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Hai Finn welcome to india

  • mikey76 on October 30, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Arrow011. The Indian side that toured England wasn't particularly depleted, Zaheer was the only big miss. Any injuries were mainly self inflicted due to poor fitness. We also didn't play on greentops as kohli tried to make out recently, you were beaten fair and square by a better side. I don't think Eng will complain about playing on spinning wickets as our spin attack is just as strong if not stronger. Jonesy, Finn has a biometrically sound action which is easily repeated. Again I just put your comments down to envy.

  • bumsonseats on October 30, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    not sure why england would play india A as the 1st game of the build up to the tests. surely you woud play the lesser of the teams as you built up to the series start, unless they had to go what was offered to them, tht makes no sense. i know finn could have easily done the damage in a warm up to the game, but just an observation. i asked this in a posting last week but it was not posted, but whats new about that.

  • Gupta.Ankur on October 30, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    Its not a surprise.......considering the fragile nature of english bowlers and susceptibility to change in weather conditions. The 2001-2 Ashes and their Asian tours in 2006 are a example of that.

    I won;t be surprised if many more follow him even before the 1st test begins...

  • GRVJPR on October 30, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    @rahulcricket don't jump the gun too soon. That was a very unlucky dismissal for raina. Ball hit the rough and bounced towards the helmet. No one could have batted that pitch bomb

  • Arrow011 on October 30, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    Finn needs to get fit, there is no joy in thrashing a depleted side, let the best players play & still face defeat. in last 2 ODI series England lost 5-0 + 5-0 = 10-0 in India yet Indians are itching to avenge their 4-0 loss says how deeply hurt they are. India had 10 injuries in England tour, England only thrashed a depleted India.

    Do not even consider Abhinav Mukund he has already proved to the selectors that he is an opening partner to Murli Vijay with his failures. When K.Shrikant was the selector he gave way too many chances to his TN State players, M.Vijay, A.Mukund, Ashwin & Dinku. Only Ashwin has done justice & Dinku is no doubt 2nd best wicket keeper in India after Dhoni but the captain cannot be ignored. Murli Vijay & Mukund have been tested so no more wasting time on them. I am sure with Sandip Patil being in the helm he will only bring central & west zone players now.

  • mikey76 on October 30, 2012, 14:37 GMT

    Decent effort given the fact that your spearhead only bowled 4 overs. Encouraging signs from Bresnan and Swann but Patel looks like he'll struggle to get the no.6 slot. Early days however, let's hope the batsmen hit the ground running. After all this is where the series will be won and lost.

  • Selassie-I on October 30, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    Big shame for Finny, I think he could have a decent effect as a strike bowler against the Indians. Jonesy2 - you prove again that you have no clue what you're taking about, Finn actually has a pretty clasical action - it's not bad at all, he does 'clip' the stumps but that's more to do with his position at the crease also it must be hard to manage about 5 foot of legs, it's not like he sends them cartwheeling. He can be an expensive bowler as he bowls at the stumps a lot so forces the batsman to play, but he takes wickets - a strike rate of 46, he's currently in 17th place on the cricinfo all time list - not bad. I'd like to also point out that the only Aussie's above him in the list finished their test careers at least 104 years ago.. he's also not 24 yet, so i'd be very worried down undah!

  • landl47 on October 30, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    While England has plenty of cover in the squad, Finn adds another dimension with his extra pace. Hopefully it's not serious. It sounds like an entertaining day's play. jonesy2, you're up past your bedtime again. You know it makes you cranky.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on October 30, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    jonesy2, Australia must be truly terrible if that's what you really think. That's right, they are.

  • ADI_GUNGALIYA_FANTASY on October 30, 2012, 13:46 GMT

    Irfan score good 46 & now looking for him to take early wickets to cement his place in Indian Team.

    Manoj showing his consistency in every format. do will he get chance now ?

  • Nampally on October 30, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    Fine recovery from India A. Yuvraj's innings was refreshing with 52 of his runs coming in 4's & 6's. Hopefully he remains fit & healthy to play for Indian Test team. Mukund & Tiwary laid a claim for a spot in the Test XI. Tiwary has been in the squad for a long time & considtently benched by Dhoni!. His fine innings of 93 once more showed that he may not be Dhoni's favourite but he is guy who does his job without the hype attached to Rohit Sharma. Irfan Pathan & Vinay kumar carried the late rally to lead India to a respectable total. Unfortunately Finn had to go off with an injury, after his pep up rally - reminicent of Zaheer's in England. Hopefully England won't be decimated by injuries, as happened to key Indian players (10), on the Engand Tour! Bresnan & Swann bowled well to capture 3 wkts. each, which is a good tally on dead Indian pitches. India A has 2 seamers on trial - Awana & Dinda.Both need lot of work on their consistency in length & direction. I expect a big England total!

  • Grah123 on October 30, 2012, 13:30 GMT

    I hope you get some good news as we will miss you if it turns out to be serious Steve!

  • samraj63 on October 30, 2012, 13:30 GMT

    FINN Vs Zaheer - Zaheer was the most experienced and the spearhead of Indian attack, not so with Finn as Anderson is most experienced and the spearhead.

  • yorkshire-86 on October 30, 2012, 13:28 GMT

    Fatel..... why oh why?????

  • St.John on October 30, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    Wrong Headline! What England assault? An India A team scoring over 4 an over! England assault indeed!

  • RajitD on October 30, 2012, 13:22 GMT

    I do hope its not serious. As regards a few comments point to Zaheer, the difference was that Zak's injury happened in the first innings of test match, while this is just a tour game.

  • street_smart on October 30, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    Where is @sachin_vvsfan? Now he would say this is just an A match so not counted. Manoj Tiwary has proved wrong to everyone with limited chance. Has been given Grade C contract where as Rohit, Rahane given Grade B contacts. Shame on you Indian selectors, team management & above all Srinivasan

  • on October 30, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    India A has recovered from a precarious 190 for 6....

    Irfan contributed his crucial knock of 46 and an outstanding innings by tiwary....

    initially mukund and yuvi scored valuable runs for india....

    will irfan shine with ball too tmro???

  • svel on October 30, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    good start by abhinav mukund... brisk strike rate and four fours of bresnan's over was the highlight of his knock... hope he replaces gambir...

  • Front-Foot_lunge on October 30, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    There were a lot of fellow england fans crowing about australia's fast-bowling injury worries. Not only is this un-sportsmanlike it has also come back to bite them with Finn, our only decent bowler, now under an injury cloud before the first test. Seeing stark, Cummins et al in the T20 CL and WC goes to show that Australia's fast bowling management is bearing fruit and far superior to the current management team we have in England. How many test series do we need to lose, both home and away, before the off-field management improves?

  • bnsameer on October 30, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    Huge difference between England and Indian pitches.the pacers who shook the strong Indian batting in England have given away 370 runs on day1 of practice match.This tells about the days to come ahead for English quickies.Get ready.

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on October 30, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    No.6 spot must goes to tiwary..if not tiwary then it should be yuvraj atleast for his bowling(sure kp will be his bunny)..PLEASE NO MORE RAINA IN TESTS PLEASE..

  • KaptaanCricket on October 30, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    Just get the feeling England will get 4-0 back! As everything is happening what happened t India last year.Their main bowler is injured,their spearheads not working,if nothing else these are signs of a repeat but the other way this time. I am a Pakistani too!

  • rahulcricket007 on October 30, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    raina before game " I WANT TO BE IN THE TEAM BECAUSE I WANT TO PAYBACK ENGLAND " . lolz , RAINA FIRST IMPROVE YOUR TECHNIQUE OTHERWISE YOU WILL LOSE IN INDIA ALSO .

  • rahulcricket007 on October 30, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    NOW WHAT RAINA ? YOU MADE ONLY 20 RUNS . WAS THE PITCH A GREEN TOP ? OR THE PITCH WAS BOUNCY ? OR THE CONDITIONS WERE OVERCAST ? .NO THE PITCH WAS FLAT . NOW PLEASE JUST ACCEPT THE FACT YOU CAN'T PLAY TEST CRICKET ON ANY TYPE OF PITCHES RATHER THAN BLAMING PITCHES .

  • rahulcricket007 on October 30, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    TIWARI MADE 93 BUT IS STILL NOT SURE OF MAKING INTO 15 MAN SQUAD . EVEN AFTER DOING WELL IN HIS LIMITED OPPURTUNITES , TIWARI HAS ALWAYS BEEN DENIED OF SELCTION WHILE PLAYERS LIKE RAINA , ROHIT WILL REMAIN IN THE TEAM EVEN AFTER REPEATED FAILURES .THIS HAS BECOME THE SAD STORY OF INDIAN CRICKET .

  • yorkshirematt on October 30, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    @Gautam Vishwanath Well they do put tremendous strain on their bodies, by doing something their bodies are not designed to do , over and over again. As jonesy2 sort of points out, a lot of fast bowlers also get injured if their bowling action is not quite right.

  • Haleos on October 30, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Hope it is not serious. The workload on the players is enormous nowadays. Money has taken over brains. Certainly for one of the indian great who does not realise his time in limited overs is over.

  • Haleos on October 30, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    Glad overrated Vijayi proved his worth which is ZIPP.

  • fourmi on October 30, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    How long did it take to check the (lack of) no-ball for Rahane's dismissal, and if this was a Test match, would we get the time back?

  • CricketMaan on October 30, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Unfortunate for Finn, but then England has a battrey of fast bolwers waiting for thier turn, unlike India who had to call RP from Miami beach. So no relevance to what happened to Zak in England. Viru has one problem less, though Onions can make him cry!! And to the match..Mukund, Tiwary and Yuvi will rue missed oppurtunities...Tiwary is the underdog but has been consistent. Dhoni will prefer Yuvi, Raina unless selectors think otherwise. Tiwary will carry drinks for the first test. Mukund has talent and has done well but he needs to get a bigge to push his case ahead of GG. For now GG and Viru will open in the first 2 tests, unless a miracle happens. Rahane's poor form continues and hope is not Rohit v2. Raina should hire a mental coach rather than a batting coach. Yuvi well done again. Cook will be pleased with the workload for his bowlers and now will be looking forward to his 100 tomorrow. KP and Trott might also get 100s against this attack. Big day for bowlers.

  • Percy_Fender on October 30, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    I hope it is not too serious and that he can bounce back for the Tests. He seemed to be the spearhead for England in the last series against South Africa.So similar to Zaheer getting the same problem in the first Test in England last year.

  • on October 30, 2012, 11:49 GMT

    Reminds me of Zaheer injured during India's tour of England last season.

  • DrTchock on October 30, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Graham Onions is already in the squad....

  • on October 30, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    I can remember a certain zaheer khan limping out the same way when india went to england.......whats with fast bowlers and fitness?

  • FrankMeister on October 30, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    Are we seeing the development squad for an injury Xl already... deja vu with India in 2011?!?

  • jonesy2 on October 30, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    rahulcricket007 -- ha finn wishes he could bowl 150 clicks. never good for seamers to get injuries if must surely be his ridiculous bowling action or too much hitting the stumps with his leg, the fact that he can even get the ball on the pitch (sometimes) is amazing. then again getting smashed around at almost 6 runs an over against india a can also induce injury

  • GeoffreysMother on October 30, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    20 overs - 3 for 59 and a run out. Who do we underestimate everytime?

  • SudharsanVM on October 30, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    Very sad indeed.Hope noting serious

  • on October 30, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    Hope nothing's serious...

  • jmcilhinney on October 30, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Very, very disappointing for Finn and England. I guess an injury like that will unmuddy the waters somewhat when it comes to selection of the fast bowlers for the Test matches. If it is a relatively serious injury then one would imagine that we'll see Graham Onions added to the squad.

  • rahulcricket007 on October 30, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    i hope it is nothing serious . i want to see at least one bowler bowling at 150 kph .

  • csr11 on October 30, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    hope nothing serious.. the guys a tough competitor.. hope he's back on the field tomorrow..

  • londondoc on October 30, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    Hmm- sounds eeringly similar to what happened to India when they toured England last time. Premier fast bowler breaking down!

  • on October 30, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    How long can we ignore Manoj???

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  • on October 30, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    How long can we ignore Manoj???

  • londondoc on October 30, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    Hmm- sounds eeringly similar to what happened to India when they toured England last time. Premier fast bowler breaking down!

  • csr11 on October 30, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    hope nothing serious.. the guys a tough competitor.. hope he's back on the field tomorrow..

  • rahulcricket007 on October 30, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    i hope it is nothing serious . i want to see at least one bowler bowling at 150 kph .

  • jmcilhinney on October 30, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Very, very disappointing for Finn and England. I guess an injury like that will unmuddy the waters somewhat when it comes to selection of the fast bowlers for the Test matches. If it is a relatively serious injury then one would imagine that we'll see Graham Onions added to the squad.

  • on October 30, 2012, 11:33 GMT

    Hope nothing's serious...

  • SudharsanVM on October 30, 2012, 11:35 GMT

    Very sad indeed.Hope noting serious

  • GeoffreysMother on October 30, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    20 overs - 3 for 59 and a run out. Who do we underestimate everytime?

  • jonesy2 on October 30, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    rahulcricket007 -- ha finn wishes he could bowl 150 clicks. never good for seamers to get injuries if must surely be his ridiculous bowling action or too much hitting the stumps with his leg, the fact that he can even get the ball on the pitch (sometimes) is amazing. then again getting smashed around at almost 6 runs an over against india a can also induce injury

  • FrankMeister on October 30, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    Are we seeing the development squad for an injury Xl already... deja vu with India in 2011?!?