India v West Indies, 2nd Test, Kolkata, 4th day November 17, 2011

Bowling unit is balanced - Dhoni

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MS Dhoni has said he is more than satisfied with an inexperienced bowling attack that won the series against West Indies with a match to spare. He refused to be drawn on whether Varun Aaron, so impressive on his one-day debut against England, would be unleashed for the final Test which starts in Mumbai on November 22.

"We have been thinking about it," he said. "But it's too soon right now. We will see what needs to be done. We don't want to overuse the bowlers. We will think about it and do what's best for the side."

Without Zaheer Khan, who is easing back to full fitness, and the out-of-favour Harbhajan Singh, India won both Tests inside four days, and Dhoni said the bowling unit looked balanced. "The fast bowlers look very fresh which means they can bowl a lot of overs. The spinners are also fairly fresh and raring to go and have a bit more energy in the field. They back themselves, which is very important in Tests.

"In the last Test match [in Delhi], there was something in the pitch that favoured the bowlers. But in this Test, especially in the second innings, there was not much turn for them so they had to rely on flight and variations.

"Umesh [Yadav] is someone who can bowl really quick. But we will have to use him in the best possible manner so that he doesn't get injured. It's not always about bowling fast. You have to bowl in the right areas and build pressure. Overall, it's a balanced bowling attack."

The series win, albeit against opponents who have been poor travellers in recent times, had more resonance for a team that was drubbed 4-0 in England and which kept faith in most of its stalwarts. "England was a bad tour for us," Dhoni said. "There were several reasons why we did not do well there. It is always good to be on the winning side.

"Our batting did not do well in the first innings [of the series]. But after that we have shown improvement. Our fielding has been decent. It still has a long way to go if you compare it to the ODI squad."

The one grey spot in the performance at Eden Gardnes was Yuvraj Singh, whose unconvincing 25 resulted in more questions than answers. Virat Kohli waits in the wings, while Cheteshwar Pujara will be back in action in the next round of Ranji Trophy matches. Dhoni refused to comment on selection issues, but said: "At the end of the day, it's about scoring runs. It does not matter where you score runs. Yes, he [Yuvraj] is going through a tough phase but it's important to show confidence in him. We all know he is talented.

"One more reason is that he has been in and out of the side. It's very difficult to back yourself. You have that bit of tentativeness. It's a bit tough on him. But hopefully he will recover and do well for India."

Dhoni ended the England tour in impressive form and his displays in this series earned him the praise of Jeffrey Dujon, the great West Indies keeper from days gone by, who referred to him as an "excellent package", a term Dhoni though described him aptly.

"It's a big compliment for me. I am more of a package than a specialist. I'm neither an extraordinary batsman nor a specialist keeper. It's all about doing things right. It does not matter how you catch the ball, take the edges and affect stumpings. It's important to score at that point of time when it's really good for the side. I hope I will be a specialist one day."

This Eden Gardens victory was especially satisfying, Dhoni said, because the pitch didn't deteriorate markedly as the match wore on. "It was not a track where you can walk in and get the batsmen out. It was tough for the bowlers. In the first session on the third day, there was a bit of moisture and the spinners got a bit of turn.

"But after that, it turned out to be a flat wicket and continued to be from that point of time. If we had not dismissed them cheaply [in the first innings] then the match would not have ended this way. It was a very flat track. There was nothing really for the quicks or spinners, especially after the third morning.

"I'd definitely like to see pitches where it turns more and the spinners get bounce on a consistent basis. Because that's what India is known for. Hopefully we will be able to get those kinds of tracks."

India have never won every Test of a series against West Indies, and Dhoni - who insisted that he wouldn't skip the game - was taking nothing for granted ahead of the Mumbai Test. "We will have to see what kind of pitch we get there. West Indies are a good side. Their bowling line-up is quite good. It's not that they can't bat. As you have seen in the second innings, they have talented batsmen. We are expecting a tough third Test."

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  • Johnny_129 on November 20, 2011, 12:55 GMT

    Dhoni talks about giving the bowlers a rest yet he is reluctant to try Varun and rest Ishant for the final test?!! Seems like a bit of selfishness on Dhoni's part as he is trying to build a good record under his own leadership yet the lack of succession planning on his part will mean the future Indian teams and captains will suffer - can't blame the selectors this time...they have provided him with promising youngsters and it is up to Dhoni to give them their break. What opportunity will be better than the Mumbai test with the series already wrapped up??? @Iyer on (November 19 2011, 19:30 PM GMT) - Why would you want to drop Dravid, SRT, Laxman after failing on Aust tour....they have probably had less failures collectively than all the young pretenders fighting for a test spot! India does not have any batsman even close to the quality of Dravid, SRT and Laxman -treasure them and cherish them until they fade away...their stats do not show any signs of that as yet.

  • Iyer on November 19, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    Including Dhoni or Raina or Yuvraj in tour to Australia would be a big mistake. These 3 are good for ODI's but not for test matches that are played overseas. I have written this thousand times in different forums. India should not be carried away by few runs that is now scored by Dhoni in sub-continent. He will always be a good performer in ODI's (both India and overseas) and tests (only in subcontinent). Yuvraj and Raina have very similar profile. India should play the following: Mukund, Gambhir, sehwag, pujara, dravid, sachin, rohit, laxman, badrinath. If any of sachin, laxman, dravid fails in australia series, then there should be no more chance provided to them. That should mark the end of their career even if it is for sachin without scoring 100th 100. As a well educated (CA + Ivy MBA) that is my free advice to Indian cricket.

  • cricketisagame on November 18, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    @ Pranav Kumar .. are you serious?? You're talking about the pace bowling strength of Aussie and selecting Rain and Yuvi in the test squad leaving out the WALL and the Aussie Nemesis. Are you trying to just strengthen our bowling to destroy the Aussie batsmen and bowl out while we bat cheaply without a strong top/middle order? I am wondering what really happens to Cricinfo team when they see my comments... most of them never published..

  • on November 18, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    Old adage says let bygones be Bygones, however one wonders why RP singh was called in England and played when Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron were available. Why Harbhajan was persisted for so long. Why Ojha was ignored in England. Why half fit Sehwag was risked and why unfit Zaheer was played. Someone must ask these questions and make those who took that decision accountable. Team to Australia cant have an unfit baggages.

  • on November 18, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    The bowlers really did a good job for us. Hope this unit keeps on improving in the future.....

  • satish619chandar on November 18, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    Is there anyway Varun Aaron can be tried in the third test?? It ll be good for team if he can get some match practice before the Australian tour..

  • satish619chandar on November 18, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    @wolf777 : You dont need third fast bowler in Indian pitches.. Even if one fast bowler is injured, we can manage with part time spinners in these pitches and conditions.. I am not saying win but manage..

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on November 18, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    @chaitukash-He never said it is an extraordinary achievement. He just said 'balanced'

  • scorekar on November 18, 2011, 4:14 GMT

    If I was one of the new bowlers, I would be encouraged by these wins. Good win, India and go for the whitewash now!

  • cric7 on November 18, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    @chaitukash79, have you ever seen fast bowler performing well in Eden Garden?

  • Johnny_129 on November 20, 2011, 12:55 GMT

    Dhoni talks about giving the bowlers a rest yet he is reluctant to try Varun and rest Ishant for the final test?!! Seems like a bit of selfishness on Dhoni's part as he is trying to build a good record under his own leadership yet the lack of succession planning on his part will mean the future Indian teams and captains will suffer - can't blame the selectors this time...they have provided him with promising youngsters and it is up to Dhoni to give them their break. What opportunity will be better than the Mumbai test with the series already wrapped up??? @Iyer on (November 19 2011, 19:30 PM GMT) - Why would you want to drop Dravid, SRT, Laxman after failing on Aust tour....they have probably had less failures collectively than all the young pretenders fighting for a test spot! India does not have any batsman even close to the quality of Dravid, SRT and Laxman -treasure them and cherish them until they fade away...their stats do not show any signs of that as yet.

  • Iyer on November 19, 2011, 19:30 GMT

    Including Dhoni or Raina or Yuvraj in tour to Australia would be a big mistake. These 3 are good for ODI's but not for test matches that are played overseas. I have written this thousand times in different forums. India should not be carried away by few runs that is now scored by Dhoni in sub-continent. He will always be a good performer in ODI's (both India and overseas) and tests (only in subcontinent). Yuvraj and Raina have very similar profile. India should play the following: Mukund, Gambhir, sehwag, pujara, dravid, sachin, rohit, laxman, badrinath. If any of sachin, laxman, dravid fails in australia series, then there should be no more chance provided to them. That should mark the end of their career even if it is for sachin without scoring 100th 100. As a well educated (CA + Ivy MBA) that is my free advice to Indian cricket.

  • cricketisagame on November 18, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    @ Pranav Kumar .. are you serious?? You're talking about the pace bowling strength of Aussie and selecting Rain and Yuvi in the test squad leaving out the WALL and the Aussie Nemesis. Are you trying to just strengthen our bowling to destroy the Aussie batsmen and bowl out while we bat cheaply without a strong top/middle order? I am wondering what really happens to Cricinfo team when they see my comments... most of them never published..

  • on November 18, 2011, 6:45 GMT

    Old adage says let bygones be Bygones, however one wonders why RP singh was called in England and played when Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron were available. Why Harbhajan was persisted for so long. Why Ojha was ignored in England. Why half fit Sehwag was risked and why unfit Zaheer was played. Someone must ask these questions and make those who took that decision accountable. Team to Australia cant have an unfit baggages.

  • on November 18, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    The bowlers really did a good job for us. Hope this unit keeps on improving in the future.....

  • satish619chandar on November 18, 2011, 5:46 GMT

    Is there anyway Varun Aaron can be tried in the third test?? It ll be good for team if he can get some match practice before the Australian tour..

  • satish619chandar on November 18, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    @wolf777 : You dont need third fast bowler in Indian pitches.. Even if one fast bowler is injured, we can manage with part time spinners in these pitches and conditions.. I am not saying win but manage..

  • Full-Blooded-Wallop on November 18, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    @chaitukash-He never said it is an extraordinary achievement. He just said 'balanced'

  • scorekar on November 18, 2011, 4:14 GMT

    If I was one of the new bowlers, I would be encouraged by these wins. Good win, India and go for the whitewash now!

  • cric7 on November 18, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    @chaitukash79, have you ever seen fast bowler performing well in Eden Garden?

  • Ronsars on November 18, 2011, 3:43 GMT

    @ElPhenomeno:respects mate short crisp to the point and accurate analysis............Well the bowlers did a good job considering the experience or lack of that they had but agreed opposition was also not that strong...Give Varun a chance so that one can decide as who are really capable of touring Aus it definetly won't be easy bowling at them on their home ground

  • Srini_Indian on November 18, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    @chaitukash79: There isn't a lot of difference between Australia and WI batting line up. If Australia go for flat tracks, India would out-bat them. If they go for juicy tracks, the contest would be even, as they have no clue how to play swing and seam. Its fair enough to be dismissed by Steyn, but Philander? Common, give me a break. India played the swing and seam of SA last year much better in even worse tracks than this year against Aussies. England is a one off tour, with many senior players injured and the euphoria of WC wouldn't have sunk in. Now, India got the wake up call and enjoy the thrashing of Australia

  • saqskhan on November 18, 2011, 3:15 GMT

    I agree with Critic666..first of all see the West Indies Batting line up...if you add the runs of 10 players and the total is not even half of the runs scored by Chanderpaul in his career, i really appreciate the way WI performed in this tour, they dont have any star performers except Chanderpaul, but then too they have done very well and must say that they have kept India under pressure somewhere and this is an achievment, what if WI scored 300+ in the first innings, then the things would hve been different here, i always says why do we always feel happy when we win at home..what about the neutral venues.

  • chaitukash79 on November 18, 2011, 2:21 GMT

    I hope Dhoni is still saying "The bowling unit is balanced.." when we get to Australia! Something tells me that he may be saying the opposite there. I want to take away absolutely nothing from this victory, but bowling well against an ordinary batting line up who don't travel well is not an extraordinary achievement.

  • hhillbumper on November 17, 2011, 23:29 GMT

    Zaheer Khan is not and never has been world class.Irony though for all those people who spend a lot of time berating the English that Zaheer only got better after a season with Worcestershire.Maybe some more of your bowlers should play in Uk so they might get a chance to improve

  • zico123 on November 17, 2011, 20:58 GMT

    India should play Rahane at no. 3 by resting Dravid or lasman and Kohli or Rohit at no. 6, should play Varun Aaron by resting Ishant in 3rd test match against WI

  • zico123 on November 17, 2011, 20:57 GMT

    Bhajji has to get loads of wickets in ranji matches to make his return into Indian team, Yuvraj and Kohli hasve to play one full season of county cricket to develop as Test batsman, currently their technique is just not good enough

  • on_the_level on November 17, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    The team for the third Test should be selected with the Australia tour in mind. Varun Aaron should be brought in, and either one of the two spinners rested. It is very unlikely Australian pitches will be conducive to having two spinners play. Yuvraj has demonstrated once again his inability to play the short ball, this time on a low, slow pitch! Bring in Virat Kohli, with Pujara/Rahane as understudies. Sachin and Dhoni should be rested for the ODIs, and the bowlers rotated to keep them fresh.

  • nyc_missile on November 17, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    My changes for the next test,Varun for Ishant and Rohit for Yuvraj. This team will be near perfect on home conditions!

  • InnocentGuy on November 17, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    I actually wouldn't mind if Atul Sharma is given a chance to bowl at least in some Ranji games. After decades of cricket, we finally have 2 - just 2 - bowlers who consistently cross the 140k mark. This could mean the coming of age of Indian 'pace' bowlers. Evolution. Like how NBA players have grown taller and stronger over the years, finally Indian youngsters are evolving into bowlers with stronger arms. I'm guessing, maybe it's got to do with evolution of diets and workout routines. More supplements, I dunno. Hopefully, we get to see more such bowlers in the future. It's funny coz, almost all of Australia wants Mitchell Johnson axed. But if he were an Indian, he would be an automatic choice for the current playing XI. It's just that sometimes, it feels as though the team is more rounded if you have men at the bottom who can bowl really quick. Otherwise, the onus seems to rest on the batsmen to back the bowlers.

  • skeptic_indianfan02 on November 17, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    winning the match matters to me at the end of the day....there's no point in debating on indian bowling lineup...India had always struggled to produce good pace bowler...i would prefer remaining skeptic about india getting a good pace attack....as long as team is winning ..al's well

  • ssenthil on November 17, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    @Ska, Sid Ravindran perhaps is right. I never seen any hat-trick spread over a Match. but The hat-trick would be on in the same Match can spread over an Innings. Once the match ends, the hat-trick chance is over. had if he has taken the last 2 Wickets in the WI first Innings he would have been on hat-trick when he bowls his first ball in the WI 2nd Innings. But now as the Match is over, This will not carry forward. I hope this clarifies you......... The Link for the Test Hat-tricks are here:...........http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/136977.html......

  • critic666 on November 17, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    Nothing to be excited about Indian bowling. We had Irfan, Harbhajan, RP, Sreesanth, Balaji, VRV, Undakat and some others who came and went away. No need to be excited about any new talent as Indian bowling will always be patchy.

  • maddy20 on November 17, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    @Mustafa Beating an off-colour SL side and the Pakistanis are already on a high? Your true talent will be revealed when you Host Eng and tour to India next year.

  • theRule19 on November 17, 2011, 17:55 GMT

    With Zaheer going out and retiring soon. India would need to groom fast bowlers like Aaron and Yadav and allow them to play as more Int'l test matches which will only do good to their performance. Test cricket is the best cricket that could measure the quality of a player over a period of time.

  • Naresh28 on November 17, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    I agree with some of the comments that a good left arm pacer is missing. That is definetly ZAKS. He is still the specialist Indias misses. He could shut those English mouths who brag about India's inability to get COOK out. ZAKS was missed in England. We should be looking for talented left armer to replace ZAKS. Zaks hop in delivery stride makes him potent. He is a world class bowler. The great thing when he next plays is that he will have support from the other bowlers and therefore will not be overused.

  • spence1324 on November 17, 2011, 17:50 GMT

    Ms dhoni 'balanced bowling attack' did not know he was a comedian ha ha!

  • maddy20 on November 17, 2011, 17:44 GMT

    @Elphenomeno Well said. SA is one team that can give a serious fight to any team anywhere especially in tests. The poms don't realize that they haven't won a test series here in ages!

  • SanjivAwesome on November 17, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    "We all know that he is (not) talented", Dhoni when you speak of Yuvraj. Surely?!

  • on November 17, 2011, 17:35 GMT

    Its time to give rest to some of the players......probably rest Ishant and get varun Aaron.........rest seems tough to give rest as dravid and rahul plays only tests and Sehwag and Gautam is just back to big league and they need an extended run. No that yuvraj is dropped, give Virat a chance instead of Rohit who has been replaced.

  • Nampally on November 17, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    Even though Dhoni calls this "inexperienced" bowling line up, they have done far better than "experienced" Bhaiji & ZAK. These are talented young guys and need a chance to prove their talent.Yadev, Aaron, Ojha, Ashwin & Ishant are all 25 yrs. or less. They will get "experienced only by playing in the XI. At least these are Fit, Keen & agile guys who can give 100% effort withoutworrying about their hamstrings.So these 5 should be the bulk of the Indian bowling for a while.It is unfortunate Dhoni never tested Rahul Sharma because his unique bouncy fast leg breaks will be very effective in Australia, SA & England pitches. As far batting besides the top 5 + Dhoni, India has Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj, Rahane, Tiwary, Pujara all knocking at the door.India must arrive in Australia with 18 players 2 weeks before the first Match and set up a camp in Sydney to practice hard & get used to different pitches.This is crucial & will avoid the Fiasco of injuries & unpreparedness observed in England tests.

  • anikbrad on November 17, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    HAT TRICK NEEDS TO BE ON THE SAME MATCH MAY BE DIVIDED BETWEEN INNINGS BUT NOT DIFFERENT MATCH. SO NO HT-TRICK CHANCE FOR UMESH

  • Pritt32 on November 17, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    India's bowling is showing signs of encouraging improvements since the awful bowling attack against England last summer. The less said about it the better as things are looking a little positive on the bowling front. Dhoni's comment is justified to a certain extent. India's bowling needs to contain stronger batting attacks from higher rated teams such as South Africa, Australia and England. India does have potentially good spins bowlers and a promising fast bowler. I hope they can maintain the consistency. India's batting has so much depth. It will be sad and emotional when the experience players retire as the pressure to fill in their boots will be high. India does have plenty of potentially batmen for test cricket. Anyway, well done to India for an impressive victory against a resilient West Indies team who showed some fighting spirits, but it was too much for them to survive. Keep it up and go for the whitewash.

  • Aussasinator on November 17, 2011, 16:41 GMT

    A good victory that was easy against a reasonable bowling attack but a weak batting line up in Indian conditions. The build up is that Varun Aaron can come for a rested Umesh Yadav next test, while Ishant Sharma can get one more chance to gain some match practice or form. The team for Australia should have both Aaron and Umesh - India's best chance to beat the Aussies. As for India's batting, it will be too much for the Aussies to get out, no matter who bowls how much.

  • mrmonty on November 17, 2011, 16:27 GMT

    @Yevghenny, yes, the same bowling unit that spanked England 5-0 on their ODI tour three weeks ago. But, not the same unit that toured England (Yadav, Ojha, Ashwin) did not play back then.

  • on November 17, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    the bowlers pacemen& spinners have worked so well and complemented each other..kudos to that..i guess most who watched the match can and will clearly agree to the fact ojha and ashwin worked and complemented as a pair.. so was Ishant and Umesh..

    Clearly Harbhajan was a blot in the bowling unit, a dead weight for 2+ yrs now.. Now there is a bit of freshness....the youngsters more than happy to take care of each other..thts so refreshing to watch..they are bonding and thats important..

    Ashwin is just 2 matches old in the test arena. He is not exposed nor flawed.. i believe he and ojha both tried till they got wickets..never gave up..put in good lot variations in speed.. and everything they can..just that WI played spin better than before. period.

    still ash and ohja both were rewarded and its hard grind alright..but whts important is they loved to work in pairs and umesh and Ish were perfect foil to go with..cheers

  • gazelle79 on November 17, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    @Yevghenny , No , not the same unit . Only Ishant Sharma was common to both units . @Innocentguy , "balance" is not the same as "good" or "excellent ". What Dhoni is saying is that he has a variety of bowlers to call upon at any point of time . This attack has two reasonably quick bowlers , an off spinner and a left arm spinner . There is a leg spinner and another quick waiting in the wings . What we lack is a left arm pacer , but our present attack has bowled well enough to cover up for that . Balance depends upon the variety of bowlers who can make use of the conditions while Effectiveness depends on how well they do that . Dhoni hasn't said this attack is great , just balanced . You can call me a pedant , but thats how I read his comment .

  • on November 17, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    It is not a real test, a big challenge is on CB Series............ Varun want to be played replace of Ishant............

  • Tendulkars_Tennis_Elbow on November 17, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    dear curators, stop preparing such roads. it isnt always about the batsmen. we would love to see the batsmen struggle and the bowlers on top. mind you, only dravid,laxman and chanderpaul will score runs then :)

  • on November 17, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    it would become better when zak is back with his form...

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 17, 2011, 15:45 GMT

    @ElPhenomo: Bravo to you, my friend. Very well put. Short and to the point. Yes there are different kind of tracks - spin friendly, pace friendly and then flat. It really irritates me when people belonging to other countries can't even get a decent enough score on our tracks and call them as flat. If the tracks were flat, it should be easier for their batsmen also to score no!? Denial, as you put it appropriately.

  • mustufa on November 17, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    Bowling attack is balanced only if you live in lala land, opening with Ashwin and Ojha is a clear sign of distrust, does not matter how slow and low the pitches are, you have to respect the new ball, and give it to the bowlers who are in the team for it. May be need a drubbing somewhere else in the world to figure it out.

  • Go_F.Alonso on November 17, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Sid Ravindran on commentary wrote that Umesh Yadav is not on a hat-trick when he plays next match. Can someone explain why? Thanks.

  • on November 17, 2011, 15:40 GMT

    For the series down under K.Srikanth must choose able bowlers.Zaheer will be chosen if he is fit and so will Praveen Kumar and also one of the new quick bowlers. It looks like the spin attack will include Ashwin and Ojha and Harbajan if he is in form. To face a heavy weight Australia in their own back yard is no walk in the park for the World Champions.Their batting line up is explosive with watson and warner and with Pat Cummins bowling near the 150KMph mark India are gonna face a stiff challenge. the best 11 according to me to face Australia is 1.Gambhir 2.Shewag 3.Tendulkar 4.Kholi 5.Raina 6.Yuvraj 7.Dhoni 8.Zaheer 9.Praveen 10.Aaron/Umesh 11.Ashwin/Harbajan. Provided they are all fit and are at the best of their game they can probably win Australia....

  • m_ilind on November 17, 2011, 15:40 GMT

    Great bowling by India on a pitch that did not help them much. With the likes of Yadav & Varun around, Aus tour will be a treat to watch! I see Yuvi as the only weak link in the current team. Hope Sachin gets his milestone in his hometown!

  • on November 17, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @ElPhenomeno...I agree with you mate. Batting in India is definitely not an easy thing to do. If on one hand your average soars above 50 in 1st innings, it is countered by 2nd innings where the average may come crashing down to 10. Besides, if Indian tracks were batsmen friendly, we would've seen more drawn matches. But we find that when India plays with top teams like Australia and South Africa, They hardly have any draws. So good bowlers get wickets everywhere. And that's why contests between these 3 teams are always close. I choose to keep England separate because they are yet to prove in more than 20 years that they can compete on Indian pitches. India must produce wickets which turn and bounce for all home matches. That's the unique Indian flavour in world cricket. Unlike SriLankan Pitches which are so flat that majority of matches end up getting drawn.

  • inimeg on November 17, 2011, 15:21 GMT

    In the batting department, I agree Yuvraj should be given more time..but would like to have Kohli in also... I would recommend that we rest one of the three greats i.e Dravid, VVS or Sachin for 3rd test...I would extend the model for future series unless we are down or struggling....The three greats of India will be signing off in next couple of years and it is required that we give the youngster a chance especially in home series

  • wolf777 on November 17, 2011, 15:17 GMT

    What balance? What if one of the fast bowler gets injured during the Test Match? Carry on with only one fast bowler? Where is the third fast bowler? Already forgot what happened at Lords when Zaheer Khan got injured on the first day?

  • on November 17, 2011, 14:55 GMT

    Get Rahane in the XI... ! Let him be groomed at 6 in absence of Pujara. Partnerships with the other legends would really help him.. With Zak coming back, it could be a good balanced combination with Zaheer (LFM), Yadav (RF), Ishant (RFM) and Ojha (LAO)

  • mathewjohn2176 on November 17, 2011, 14:52 GMT

    @yevghenny,are you serious? This bowling attack is entirely different than the one who played in England except ishant sharma.Two new spinners and debutant pace bowler yadav.

  • starincricket on November 17, 2011, 14:44 GMT

    yeah.. dhoni defenitely a special package for India. Its tough to think after him and no need to think that as of now. the same for sachin.

  • ultimatewarrior on November 17, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    Its good to see Dhoni is eager to learn more and eventually grow more....

  • ElPhenomeno on November 17, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    I commend dhoni for speaking his mind as to what kind of pitches he wants. I don't understand why India should prepare bouncy swinging pitches for visitors. When they visit england or south africa, I am sure strauss and smith don't ask to prepare for bare bone turners and instead ask for seaming full of grass pitches. I am a south african but there is a lot of hypocracy on this board. If scoring runs on these sub continent pitches was so easy (as most aussies and english like to think aka live in denial) you'd think it would be easy for everyone and not just for indians. Last time I checked australians and english consistently get walloped playing in India. The only team that has come close to giving them a contest was South Africa.

  • RK.Chandru on November 17, 2011, 14:28 GMT

    Let Zak / Nehra / Munaf / Praveen be not considered for selection for the tour down under if they're not 100% match fit and if they can not play all the matches. Of late, it has become Zak's habit to declare his fitness and availability for selection prior to any tour abroad and breakdown in the beginning itself. It's not a jolly trip or honeymoon nor he's making it on his dad's money. Players half fit or not match fit must be ignored however talented they're and whatever be their past records in Australia. In the case of one Mr. Harbhajan Singh, he's terribly off colour and is not even taking wickets in the Ranji matches in helping home conditions. He definitely is past his prime and he can only enter contention after proving his worth in the domestic matches. Rubbish and idiotic justifications like, " Form is temporary and class is permanent" by vested interests must clearly be ignored by the selection committee. It must be, Ojha, Ashwin and Amit Mishra / Piyush Chawla in spin dept.

  • InnocentGuy on November 17, 2011, 14:24 GMT

    Oh come on, you've got to be kidding me. Bowling unit is 'balanced'? After 2 home tests against a relatively weaker side? It's comments like these that frustrate me. One or two good tests and suddenly the team is well-balanced. Follow that with 2 losses, the team needs to improve! No bowling or batting or fielding unit can be considered 'balanced' until they have played like 15 or so matches against different teams in different conditions and performed reasonably well.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 17, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    Message to Ishant Sharma: Can you please be a little bit straight up while delivering the ball? With the way your body is crouching while delivering the ball, you will invariably bring the ball back into the RHB all the time; LHB don't even need to play your deliveries. It can take ages for the ball to straighten up after pitching. You will always have to resort to around the wickets to make an LHB play your deliveries. That's very poor bowling at this level. Any RHB with a little bit of anticipation will continue to cream you through the mid-wicket region without any doubts in his mind when you bowl from over the wickets. When batsmen have no doubts in their mind, you can hardly trouble them. Your bowling is becoming more and more one dimensional with each passing day. Your pace is now right up there. But the way you operate, you wouldn't give sleepless nights to any decent international batsman. You need to change. And the change has to be quick. You've been around for years now.

  • ravikiran.bits on November 17, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    I am more of a package than a specialist. I'm neither an extraordinary batsman nor a specialist keeper. I hope I will be a specialist one day. --- Dhoni :P :D U are already one. You proved it Dhoni. Dont be so much harsh on urself :P

  • vishalnaik1982 on November 17, 2011, 14:07 GMT

    truely indian bowling attack have shown good prospects

  • on November 17, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    love to see fresh bowlers... I agree with Dhoni that Yuvi need to be given more time. It is not about denying kohli. But if we avoid him now, we will loose him for ever.. and kohli will be playing for sure in the future. If we give more chances to yuvi now and keep kohli on bench, we will have the service of both the players than just kohli.. Nice win guys..!

  • Yevghenny on November 17, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    the same bowling unit that barely managed to bowl England out once (let alone twice)?

  • SnowSnake on November 17, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    Congratulations to India for a win. In the hindsight, the loss against England appears to be a good thing. India seems to be coming back strongly. With a 5-0 ODI against England and possible 3-0 win against WI, India seems to have more than recovered. Both on batting and bowling side, India seems to have good bench strength. India should focus on Aussie series because this may be the best time to win series in Australia.

  • shrastogi on November 17, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    If Indian unit is thinking of giving Varun Aaron a chance then its good. If he doesnt get a chnace in Mumbai he should definitely play in one dayers.As far as batting is concerned both Yuvraj and Dhoni are question marks. If Dhoni's caught behinds were not of no balls then this test would have been a different story. Dhoni I think should take more time in the middle than go for expansive shots in the early part of the innings. He bats at no. 7 but that is no excuse for handling new ball badly. If Yuvraj doesnt score at Mumbai I dont see how he would get a chance in Australia. Tendulkar doesnt need to be taught batting but I think this 100th ton is playing on his mind. He is getting out to poor strokes and I dont want to say that his reflexes are slowing.

  • zuber21886 on November 17, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    for this third test, their view from here should be for Australian tour

  • indianzen on November 17, 2011, 13:32 GMT

    Reall Good time for India as they have now really spinning spinners and really fast pace men unlike before with Bajji, Nehra, Munaf & Sreesanth. Praveen is of a different mold would come handy swinging.

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  • indianzen on November 17, 2011, 13:32 GMT

    Reall Good time for India as they have now really spinning spinners and really fast pace men unlike before with Bajji, Nehra, Munaf & Sreesanth. Praveen is of a different mold would come handy swinging.

  • zuber21886 on November 17, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    for this third test, their view from here should be for Australian tour

  • shrastogi on November 17, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    If Indian unit is thinking of giving Varun Aaron a chance then its good. If he doesnt get a chnace in Mumbai he should definitely play in one dayers.As far as batting is concerned both Yuvraj and Dhoni are question marks. If Dhoni's caught behinds were not of no balls then this test would have been a different story. Dhoni I think should take more time in the middle than go for expansive shots in the early part of the innings. He bats at no. 7 but that is no excuse for handling new ball badly. If Yuvraj doesnt score at Mumbai I dont see how he would get a chance in Australia. Tendulkar doesnt need to be taught batting but I think this 100th ton is playing on his mind. He is getting out to poor strokes and I dont want to say that his reflexes are slowing.

  • SnowSnake on November 17, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    Congratulations to India for a win. In the hindsight, the loss against England appears to be a good thing. India seems to be coming back strongly. With a 5-0 ODI against England and possible 3-0 win against WI, India seems to have more than recovered. Both on batting and bowling side, India seems to have good bench strength. India should focus on Aussie series because this may be the best time to win series in Australia.

  • Yevghenny on November 17, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    the same bowling unit that barely managed to bowl England out once (let alone twice)?

  • on November 17, 2011, 13:58 GMT

    love to see fresh bowlers... I agree with Dhoni that Yuvi need to be given more time. It is not about denying kohli. But if we avoid him now, we will loose him for ever.. and kohli will be playing for sure in the future. If we give more chances to yuvi now and keep kohli on bench, we will have the service of both the players than just kohli.. Nice win guys..!

  • vishalnaik1982 on November 17, 2011, 14:07 GMT

    truely indian bowling attack have shown good prospects

  • ravikiran.bits on November 17, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    I am more of a package than a specialist. I'm neither an extraordinary batsman nor a specialist keeper. I hope I will be a specialist one day. --- Dhoni :P :D U are already one. You proved it Dhoni. Dont be so much harsh on urself :P

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on November 17, 2011, 14:19 GMT

    Message to Ishant Sharma: Can you please be a little bit straight up while delivering the ball? With the way your body is crouching while delivering the ball, you will invariably bring the ball back into the RHB all the time; LHB don't even need to play your deliveries. It can take ages for the ball to straighten up after pitching. You will always have to resort to around the wickets to make an LHB play your deliveries. That's very poor bowling at this level. Any RHB with a little bit of anticipation will continue to cream you through the mid-wicket region without any doubts in his mind when you bowl from over the wickets. When batsmen have no doubts in their mind, you can hardly trouble them. Your bowling is becoming more and more one dimensional with each passing day. Your pace is now right up there. But the way you operate, you wouldn't give sleepless nights to any decent international batsman. You need to change. And the change has to be quick. You've been around for years now.

  • InnocentGuy on November 17, 2011, 14:24 GMT

    Oh come on, you've got to be kidding me. Bowling unit is 'balanced'? After 2 home tests against a relatively weaker side? It's comments like these that frustrate me. One or two good tests and suddenly the team is well-balanced. Follow that with 2 losses, the team needs to improve! No bowling or batting or fielding unit can be considered 'balanced' until they have played like 15 or so matches against different teams in different conditions and performed reasonably well.