May 10, 2011

Beware the IPL's success stories

When a player makes an impact in the IPL, it's no guarantee he's one for the future
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Do you remember the Goa Cannon? He's been silent, like an antique one on the rampart of an old fort, a while now. Back in the first season of the Indian Premier League, when it was the Garden of Eden before the scandals and the declining TV ratings, that was the sobriquet Shane Warne gave Swapnil Asnodkar. A franchise expected to bring up the rear stormed to the top of the table and stayed there, and Asnodkar played a huge part with his exuberant and chancy strokeplay.

He finished with 311 runs from nine games and his partnership with Graeme Smith at the top of the order was as pivotal to the Rajasthan Royals' success as Warne's captaincy and skill, Shane Watson's all-round prowess, and Sohail Tanvir's accuracy. Asnodkar was no Twenty20 specialist either. He made 640 runs with a highest of 254 in the domestic season preceding the inaugural IPL - albeit in the Plate division.

His ability to excel across formats convinced selectors to take a chance on him. When A teams from Australia and New Zealand came over later that year for a 50-over tri-series, he was part of a strong Indian squad that included the likes of Suresh Raina, Rohit Sharma, both Pathan brothers and Subramaniam Badrinath. While Yusuf Pathan, his Royals team-mate, capitalised to the tune of 270 runs in five matches, Asnodkar managed 23 in his three outings.

Run out twice and struggling against opposition much superior to any he had faced in the national arena, he was dropped before the final league game. Since then the story has been one of steady decline. When the IPL shifted to South Africa in 2009, he got eight games and scored just 98. Last season, when Naman Ojha did what he had once done, Asnodkar's two outings saw him make five runs.

When the panel of five, MS Dhoni and perhaps Duncan Fletcher assemble to discuss the limited-overs squads for the tour of West Indies, Asnodkar - whose only IPL match of the year has produced nine runs - will not be one of the names bandied about. Neither will Paul Valthaty's, despite the headlines generated by two remarkable back-to-back innings.

Back in 2008, seduced by Lalit Modi's claims about the league being at the cutting edge of cricketing excellence, the selectors got carried away. Manpreet Gony was given a go, despite an average first-class record, and a year later Abhishek Nayar was taken to the West Indies. Before that there was an opportunity for poor Ravindra Jadeja, one of Warne's "rock stars", to become the scapegoat for irate Indian fans as the team crashed out of the World Twenty20.

It's not just the selectors who have learnt the hard way. In the midst of a troubled Champions Trophy campaign in 2009 - the agony before the ecstacy of 2011 - Dhoni, usually the exemplar of calm, snapped at a reporter who questioned Rohit Sharma's omission from the squad, while citing his run-scoring feats in the IPL. The gist of his terse reply was that the IPL was not a benchmark for 50-over selection.

It's not just Indian players who have struggled to bridge the divide between the IPL and international cricket. Kieron Pollard has yet to prove Michael Holding wrong on the big stage against decent opposition. Tanvir never managed to hold down a place in Pakistan's XI, despite the churning caused by bans and scandals.

Is there any reason to believe that someone will leap across the chasm this year and take the international arena by storm? Not really. People often cite Yusuf Pathan as an IPL success story. But while it was his big-hitting heroics for the Royals that made him a household name, those on the circuit were aware of him long before that. For a batsman who plays in that unfettered fashion, his first-class numbers are impressive.

One likely debutant in the West Indies is Ambati Rayudu. But again, the IPL has only resuscitated his career. He was marked for special things long before that, with even the likes of Sunil Gavaskar praising him at the National Cricket Academy nearly a decade ago. Unlike Valthaty, he has a first-class resume as well.

So while the fans of their respective franchises clamour for the likes of Rahul Sharma and Iqbal Abdulla to be included in the touring squad, the selectors are far more likely to give first preference to those who have done their time on the fringes. If it comes down to a choice between Badrinath and Valthaty, or Abdulla and Pragyan Ojha, it's a no-brainer.

While the expansion to 10 teams has seen a drop in quality in the IPL - there simply aren't that many exceptional cricketers - it has also enhanced young Indian players' chances of getting noticed. With 70 locals guaranteed starting places in each round of matches, no one can cite lack of opportunity as an excuse.

What they must be wary of is of going the Asnodkar way. A season or two of the IPL may set you up for life financially, but unless it's backed by prodigious feats in other forms of the game, bigger honours are not going to find you.

Most of all, though, whether a player makes it or not depends entirely on how well they cope with the sophomore blues. According to Kumar Sangakkara, one of the few to have mastered all three formats, one of the biggest lessons that international cricket teaches you is adaptability.

"The first year is easy," he says. "Teams don't have a plan for you and you tend to slip under the radar. Then the fields start to change. You find all your scoring routes blocked and you think: 'How the hell will I score runs now?' I had to go back to the nets and re-tool my game."

Those who can will flourish. Others, like the forgotten Asnodkar, will have to be content with their Andy Warhol minutes.

Dileep Premachandran is an associate editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • wambling_future on May 13, 2011, 14:26 GMT

    No offense but I would like to see IPL get over as soon as possible. Like WC'07, IPL'11 is going on forever...

  • on May 13, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    With several big guns including Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Zaheer missing the ODI tour to Windies, I would like to see a 15 member ODI team comprising of Gambhir, Vijay, Rayudu, Kohli, Badrinath, Rohit, Raina, Yusuf, Uthappa, Iqbal Abdullah, Ashwin, Harbhajan, Munaf, Ishant & Sreesanth.

  • on May 12, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    I do not agree with you...Most of the new talent that the Indian team gets is from the IPL...It is one of the benchmarks today not only for the Indian team but internationally. Yusuf Pathan, Ravindra Jadeja, Murali Vijay, Vinay Kumar, Pragyan Ojha, Ravi Ashwin and many more Even Ashish Nehra made his comeback with a great performance in IPL 3. Otherwise it would have been curtains for his career

  • sriramsv81 on May 12, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    Nice article. One more thing to add is the flat indian pitches. Difficult to predict talent. Sloggers you can. Also the mind set in odi's is different to t20's.

  • Naveen30 on May 12, 2011, 15:23 GMT

    Rayudu Deserves a place. Great talent he is. He must have been in the Indian team 3 to 4 years back.... But unfortunate.. and also dirty politics iin the hyderabad team... good that he is not playing for deccan chargers.... others wise he could not have got this recognition today. thanks to sachin for encouraging this bright talent...... All the best Rayudu.....

  • on May 12, 2011, 11:39 GMT

    Whatever happens in IPL Badri, Rayadu, M Tiwari, P Oza, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma, Pravin Kumar etc. are automatic choices for WI tour. As most them have already established themselves at national, A level, and international level. I am keen to see Badri and Rayadu as they have done very well in Ranaji. Badri deserves chance else it will now or never situation due to his age. Apart from that I wish fair treatment to P Oza and Ashwin, as they have proved their worth in the past. This is what we can wish only as better expertise and much more political momentum is driving the selection.

  • danieltcardoso on May 12, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    each IPL throws up a likely superstar, If it was Asnodkar and Jadeja in the 1st edition, while Asnodkar failed on the bouncier tracks of S. Africa,and lost confidence therafter he has ben given a few oppurtunities. S. Afracan edition threw up Manish Pandey as the next big thing, then came M.Vijay, but failed in ODIs, Now its P Valthaty this year and Rahul Sharma, are they just shooting stars? in this IPL the result is known by the tenth over and seldom have we had close finishes,the increase in teams has diluted the quality of IPL-4

  • on May 12, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Too long an article for too short a message which could have been conveyed in a one-liner! Yes, Dileep, its a no-brainer that IPL successes do not mean that the cricketer can play all formats successfully.

  • sweetspot on May 11, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    It is only the players who are good in traditional formats that have shown consistency even in T20s. Look at the bowling and batting leaders - all are regular players! IPL may help to give a stage and an opportunity, but only true class can come out of it and express itself elsewhere. That is what DP is saying here and he is absolutely right. Where is Paul Flashthaty even now? Unfair to question his ability so soon, but seriously, without doing the hard yards, we won't find the good players.

  • sweetspot on May 11, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    A lot of people imagine the IPL is indeed some sort of bar for the long term potential test of a cricketer. It simply isn't. It shows how some people's skills can come off looking great until a plan is forged against them. The true greats are those who survive and thrive beyond all plans made against them by the best peers in the world.

  • wambling_future on May 13, 2011, 14:26 GMT

    No offense but I would like to see IPL get over as soon as possible. Like WC'07, IPL'11 is going on forever...

  • on May 13, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    With several big guns including Sachin, Sehwag, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Zaheer missing the ODI tour to Windies, I would like to see a 15 member ODI team comprising of Gambhir, Vijay, Rayudu, Kohli, Badrinath, Rohit, Raina, Yusuf, Uthappa, Iqbal Abdullah, Ashwin, Harbhajan, Munaf, Ishant & Sreesanth.

  • on May 12, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    I do not agree with you...Most of the new talent that the Indian team gets is from the IPL...It is one of the benchmarks today not only for the Indian team but internationally. Yusuf Pathan, Ravindra Jadeja, Murali Vijay, Vinay Kumar, Pragyan Ojha, Ravi Ashwin and many more Even Ashish Nehra made his comeback with a great performance in IPL 3. Otherwise it would have been curtains for his career

  • sriramsv81 on May 12, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    Nice article. One more thing to add is the flat indian pitches. Difficult to predict talent. Sloggers you can. Also the mind set in odi's is different to t20's.

  • Naveen30 on May 12, 2011, 15:23 GMT

    Rayudu Deserves a place. Great talent he is. He must have been in the Indian team 3 to 4 years back.... But unfortunate.. and also dirty politics iin the hyderabad team... good that he is not playing for deccan chargers.... others wise he could not have got this recognition today. thanks to sachin for encouraging this bright talent...... All the best Rayudu.....

  • on May 12, 2011, 11:39 GMT

    Whatever happens in IPL Badri, Rayadu, M Tiwari, P Oza, Rohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma, Pravin Kumar etc. are automatic choices for WI tour. As most them have already established themselves at national, A level, and international level. I am keen to see Badri and Rayadu as they have done very well in Ranaji. Badri deserves chance else it will now or never situation due to his age. Apart from that I wish fair treatment to P Oza and Ashwin, as they have proved their worth in the past. This is what we can wish only as better expertise and much more political momentum is driving the selection.

  • danieltcardoso on May 12, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    each IPL throws up a likely superstar, If it was Asnodkar and Jadeja in the 1st edition, while Asnodkar failed on the bouncier tracks of S. Africa,and lost confidence therafter he has ben given a few oppurtunities. S. Afracan edition threw up Manish Pandey as the next big thing, then came M.Vijay, but failed in ODIs, Now its P Valthaty this year and Rahul Sharma, are they just shooting stars? in this IPL the result is known by the tenth over and seldom have we had close finishes,the increase in teams has diluted the quality of IPL-4

  • on May 12, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Too long an article for too short a message which could have been conveyed in a one-liner! Yes, Dileep, its a no-brainer that IPL successes do not mean that the cricketer can play all formats successfully.

  • sweetspot on May 11, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    It is only the players who are good in traditional formats that have shown consistency even in T20s. Look at the bowling and batting leaders - all are regular players! IPL may help to give a stage and an opportunity, but only true class can come out of it and express itself elsewhere. That is what DP is saying here and he is absolutely right. Where is Paul Flashthaty even now? Unfair to question his ability so soon, but seriously, without doing the hard yards, we won't find the good players.

  • sweetspot on May 11, 2011, 18:03 GMT

    A lot of people imagine the IPL is indeed some sort of bar for the long term potential test of a cricketer. It simply isn't. It shows how some people's skills can come off looking great until a plan is forged against them. The true greats are those who survive and thrive beyond all plans made against them by the best peers in the world.

  • on May 11, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    true and excellent one.selectors should give chances to those cricketers who toiled hard in first cricket for years than picking a cricketer who two or three good innings in IPL.

  • on May 11, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    Sad article..pathetic presentation and approach...

  • Bhokaal on May 11, 2011, 13:16 GMT

    Dear Dileep, you are right but you would soon see an exception in the form of Rahul Sharma.

  • on May 11, 2011, 12:30 GMT

    It is a non-sense article. You can't write off people like this. Valthaty was good in his performances and he was cool and composed. You are nobody to say somebody is good or bad and don't give indications on somebody's selection.

  • manojettedi on May 11, 2011, 11:49 GMT

    Good article. Eventually the players must realize that IPL is not the only criterion for selection. IPL may be showcase, but you need to be constructed, shaped, painted and ready to be in the showcase. IPL the showcase, factory being the domestic cricket. Intelligent cricketers will realize this, while the Asnodkar types will fritter away sooner or later.

  • SupertrampSMS on May 11, 2011, 10:48 GMT

    The order of preference for future Test cricket spots in the middle order must be Kohli>>Pujara>>Rahane>>Rohit Sharma(He is yet to play test cricket,Don't tell me he got enough chances there)...All these kids were stand out performers for their domestic sides right from the start..Kohli made the transition successfully into ODI cricket and Pujara started well in test cricket...Others need to follow..Feeling sad for Badri,He is yet another Amol Mujumdar,Selectors failed to pick him up at the right time and I feel its no time to go back,Don't wanna see yet another vacancy coming up in the middle order after 2-3 years of Badri

  • SUNDOS on May 11, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    Why isn't the BCCI sending A teams?A dew years back VVS went to the West Indies and found the magic touch amongst a breed of some young cricketers.The likes of Irfan Pathan,R.P.Singh,Umesh Yadav,Abhinav Mukund.Ajinkya Rahane,Iqbal Abdulla,Wriddhiman Saha,Mithun,Manoj Tewari,Murtaza, and even the likes of Valhaty and Suman ,,are only some of the "nearly forgotten" who could help form the bench strength that India needs.Mr Ramachandran well written,it's the forgotten players who need to be highlighted o else some very promising cricketers could be lost.Case in point is the talented Venugopal Rao.

  • hurrysh on May 11, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    Rayudu was lost to Indian cricket because he felt the Hyderabad selectors were unfair in dropping him. then he joined ICL got banned and got a new lease of life only because of the IPL. I agree that IPL success has to be backed with first class knocks. But IPL should not be rubbished. It gives player exposure to international standards of fielding (if not bowling and batting) and also recognition. Ranji selectors would really find it difficult to drop successful IPL players without raising a few eyebrows. IPL is governed by money and not by quotas, nepotism or bribes some of the biggest problems in the current Indian cricketing structure.

  • 1st_april on May 11, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    20-20 can produce a 3 hour star..and nothing else..

  • on May 11, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    Players who are technically sound like Badrinath are the need of the hour. Hitters can only win you T20s, not ODIs or tests. And frankly, such players will to find much success throughout their careers.

  • on May 11, 2011, 6:01 GMT

    Very nice article.Makes sense even to the most ardent IPL " as a talent hunt" fan.Yusuf , for e.g., is a scary run machine at the national 4 day level with his Duleep trophy final innings being an all time classic.Pujara,Rahane,kohli and Badri are proven 4 day competitors.It definitely makes sense to pick players whom we know can last at least 50 overs rather than pick players who have sparkled like a shooting star in the shortest " blink and you will miss it" format.Valthaty though should get a chance in the Mumbai Ranji team as they have not posted very good performances in the last couple of seasons.Any judgment on his potential and talent can be done after at least one season on that stage.It is quite apparent that the real potential lies with people who have at least proven themselves in the national stage.

  • SaifQazi on May 10, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    most impressed by the statement made by Kumar Sangakarra who in the present crop of cricketers is a gem of a professional. those few words of Kumar, if young cricketers can learn from that and try to reach for that level, i am sure they will do better because those few words describe the best how a cricketer evolves from adversaries and learns from mistakes. his record, like of many great cricketers, is a testimony of his achievement and professionalism.

    Secondly, the article is a brilliant eye-opener for those young cricketers vying for international spots that success is not that easy. until and unless you don't put your heart and soul, you can't reach the level you wish to achieve. India at the moment is blessed with some great cricketers like Tendulkar, Dravid, Kumble who can mentor these young kids. but the question is, how much these young cricketers, blessed with fame and money now, want to learn from such stalwarts of the country and game?:)

  • on May 10, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    I find it hilarious that people are propping players for the test team on the basis of IPL performances. lol @ Valthathy and Rayudu for the team, I am sure we can do a lot better if we went dredging the Indian ocean.

    I am not sure about Badri either, his performance against genuine swing and seam is questionable. That really leaves the cupboard threadbare apart from Pujara who does seem to have the technique at the top level. There are plenty of potentials at the door like Rahane or Pandey but these players are yet to assert themselves with any degree of confidence and until they do we'll struggle to retain our hold over the test championship so wonderfully earned by the likes of Tendulkar, Dravid Laxman and even Ganguly.

    Even scarier however is bowling- apart from Zaheer (and Harbhajan to a certain extent) there seems to be nothing to get us twenty wickets in a game and this is worrying beyond the usual bickering about batsmen. If we don't get the bowlers we can kiss no 1 goodbye

  • on May 10, 2011, 18:52 GMT

    It has just been four years. The recent Indian team has all the batting places tightly fitted with stellar batsmen. Spotting talent in IPL is here to stay, talent will be noticed. If any domestic bowler has a Malinga like season, he will surely be picked for the national side in all forms of the game. While you might be right in saying that Valthaty or Asnodkar are not good enough for an India Team nod , your basic premise that the IPL Success cannot translate to other forms of cricket is a Gross Mis-Judgment. The mentioned players didn't make it because they haven't shown anything good enough to warrant a place in the side by replacing one of the existing star batsmen in the Indian side. If you want Valthaty or Asnodkar in, who do you take off? Gambhir? Tendulkar? Sehwag? Yuvraj? Kohli ? Raina? Dhoni? No way those two are better than the mentioned batsmen. Show potential in the IPL that you are better than the mentioned 7 batsmen and you are in!

  • spartan7 on May 10, 2011, 18:45 GMT

    Nice article. Where can I find the rest of the Sangakkara interview?

  • m_ilind on May 10, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    T20 game is not a real test of skills, as Mr. Lorgat said. Unless you are a Gambhir, who was rediscovered in the T20 WC 2007, or Yusuf Pathan, you won't cut it in the higher leagues. A good overall track record is a must rather than the slam bang of the T20 game. Cheers!

  • candyfloss on May 10, 2011, 18:18 GMT

    I agree with some of the suggestions,the prospect for Indian cricket looks exciting but we must make the right moves.Firstly I think getting badri in is a regressive move because we wont be playing for 7 yrs down the line.Ideally I would like to see Ajinkya Rahane,Pujara,Kohli,Vijay in line for test matches as and when there is a vaccancy.In the bowling departement we have Zaheer,Sree(has beautiful seam position),Ishant,RP Singh,Umesh Yadav,Varun Aaron,Rahul Sharma,Ashwin.Of these RP singh,Ishant and maybe Irfan all need to be nurtured carefully let them play county cricket or atleast give them supporting pitches and you will see the improvements in our fast bowling.All in all we can have a formidable team for the future.

  • espncric123 on May 10, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    ODI Team: 1. Vijay (Selector's choice) 2. Gambhir 3. Kohli 4. Yuvraj 5. Raina 6. Rayudu(WK) 7. Y Pathan ( Yet to find another alrounder, I Pathan?) 8. Bhajji (on Experience not on Form) 9. Ishant(In for Zak) 10. Munaf 11. P Kumar(In for Nehra) 12 to 15 can be anybody;s guess, they won't get to play a match in WI.

  • worstcasegemini on May 10, 2011, 17:53 GMT

    I wonder if people who compare Pujara with Dravid or even Laxman have even seen him bat properly. Yes, he has a decent domestic record but did we see him connect the bat with the ball? Hardly. That knock of 70 odd runs in SA has been no testament of his over rated potential. He still has a lot to prove cuz he now competes with Yuvraj, Raina and Virat...With guys like Wasim Jaffer and Aakash Chopra proving their worth season over season, its an injustice to compare Pujara with Dravid... Pujara certainly is a find though... Virat is one real champ and i'd really love to see him in the Test Squad...

  • on May 10, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    good article.. but ipl has also given cricketers like Ashwin who have done reasonably well in International arena..

  • Ajayvs on May 10, 2011, 16:08 GMT

    Painting Paul valtathy as one or two match wonder is really harsh!! There is no vulgarity in his game.He is good of the backfoot,plays short ball reasonably well and is a clean striker.Iam really surprised he has not played any games at Ranji level. Inspite of its negatives IPL is a platform for Valtathy,chiplis and parmeshwarans of this world to demand their due from their state Associations. Iam not saying select a guy directly into the indian team based on IPL performance but the selectors should keep an eye on talents discovered,if they follow up the IPL performance with good domestic performance they should be given their due.

  • crikkfan on May 10, 2011, 15:59 GMT

    excellent article. very well said.

  • Willowarriers on May 10, 2011, 15:07 GMT

    Why can't these armchair experts try playing in the IPL themselves. If it was that easy you and me would be playing. We are not. The IPL needs a certain skill set and you need to be a decent player at the core. We can do without these judgmental articles.

  • Bones5198 on May 10, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    IPL should have no impact on selection for interntional cricket in test or one day. Batsman with extraordinary first class/list a careers should be considered first, particularly Ajinka Rahane and Abinav Mukund. Badrinath was unlucky that he couldn't break into the the team younger and will likely miss out as he will not have as long left potentially as some of the others. Virat Kohli has shown class in one day cricket and has an exceptional first class recod so a test call up must be on the cards

  • on May 10, 2011, 12:57 GMT

    The only players I can single out as future Dravid/VVS/Sachin replacements are: Kohli (terrific batsman, has already proven he has the temperament), and Raina (still needs to be more stable, but a very talented guy). Other possible candidates are Badri, Rayadu, and Pujara. The likes of Uthappa, Rohit Sharma, Jadeja, etc. just don't have that much quality to be even 50% of what Dravid or Sachin are.

    Kohli is a definite future prospect and deserves a test call up. Raina needs to do a bit more, but his talent is undoubtable.

  • Vkarthik on May 10, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    It is not hard to find out who would make the top level who wouldn't. Asnodkar example is poor one. Because he wasn't even good in IPL. He was just a wild slasher.

  • on May 10, 2011, 12:22 GMT

    the author has alos missed likes of Manish Pandey.. who despite of not so having gr8 form in IPL but he has a strong dosmestic seson last year and an year before that... he was top scorer in one of dem.. so i guess even he should be under consideration though

  • on May 10, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    IPL is different Ball game all together and you cannot expect the Chiplis,Sohails and Valthaties to rock the International arena.The guys with solid career like Badrinath, Rayudu and Manoj Tiwary are unable to make the upper cut because of the strong batting line up that we have. It is the bowlers we are looking for and no single pace bowler has impressed.It is going to be Zaheer, Munaf,Ishant and Praveen Kumar once again and you cannot think beyond Bhaji & Ashwin once again. Uthappa and Rohit Sharma should learn the hard way and follow Virat Kohli if they need to don national colours.

  • Percy_Fender on May 10, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    Srikant Wagh is definitely has a lot of potential and should make his mark in the longer versions in the domestic scene soon. Ravindra Jadeja will be a brilliant player in the longer formats whatever anyone might say about his 20/20 performance in the last World Cup.Add to these Ishant Sharma who in my opinion, is beginning to bowl once again like he did in Australia against Ponting and others, when he got universal acclaim.Rahul Sharma and Ram Ashwin will be very effective at the highest level.Chet Pujara, and Abi Mukund have already shown what they are capable of.So contrary to the prophets of doom, I think India's benchstrength is pretty impressive. They can indeed extend their hold at the top for sometime as West Indies and Australia did.What they probably need to do is to make a pool of players and give them the exposure and recognition whenever the chances arise. If need be by resting key players.Another Sachin may take long in coming but there may be a Dravid or a Laxman here.

  • Percy_Fender on May 10, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    Ambatti Rayadu Manoj Tiwari and Rohit Sharma, are the only batsmen who have been consistent in the ongoing IPL. Valthathy played two very good knocks but has tapered off after that. Others like Venugopal Rao,have done well too but then I think he will always do well in this format of the game. Ajinkya Rahane is India material for the formats but has had to bat too low in the order to come into notice. However when he did bat, he showed how classy he can be.Tiru Suman showed what he is capable of in the only innings he got to play.The thing is that the selectors have to see the temperament of the player to play the big innings from the way he has batted thus far.Rayadu and Rahane should definitely be playing for India in the 50 over ODIs and Tests straightaway whenever there is an opening. On the bowling front, Varun Aaron was impressive in the only match he has played so farand Umesh Yadav, Arvind Mithun and Parmeshwaran will do well if they get the inputs from a good coach.

  • on May 10, 2011, 11:51 GMT

    Author has missed Ashwin. But the fundamental thought process is correct. dont select anyone unless they have a history in 1st class. Few bang bang innings is not good enough to become international class batsmen bowler.

    For WI tour Badri, Rayadu , Ishant and Amit Mishra/Ojha should be selected. Manoj Tiwari should be next in line. I hope Uthappa makes a comeback soon as well.

  • kapilesh23 on May 10, 2011, 11:09 GMT

    The part were the player described that the teams don't have plan for you and they themselves are under prepared is spot on .look at the later ipl .Most of the top scorers and wicket takers are the golden oldies .this young players who performed in the first and second ipl do not stand a chance on international stage .I don't understand why Rohit sharma and other stars of Ipl are so highly overrated look at there international stats and you would understand how many opportunities they were given and how they performed .

  • dukegallaghar on May 10, 2011, 11:08 GMT

    Its not like these players were blooded as genuine replacements.. they were put in cos senirs were injured or rested. And one two matches at international level is not really enough.. Badri, Pujara, Raina, Rohit and Kohli will play one form or another consistently for the next 5 years. Jadeja, Ishant, Irfan, Tiwary will come back..they are the real deal.

  • on May 10, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    ya ipl succes cannot guarantee a succesful international career ..........lot of people supportin too many players........smebody like rayudu is gud...........but tiwari oh my god he is just another powerhouse but not good for ODI........he is not classy enough for international games .......90% of shots are wild swings how could you comment his name for selection....as for m.vijay nd rohith they are classy players not wild swingers of the ball....nd vijay performed well in test....which needs much more talent to perform.....even yuvi like player struggle in tests but vijay has done gud enough to stay in the team.........

  • Vnott on May 10, 2011, 10:05 GMT

    There is some truth in the article and some lies too. IPL is definitely a forum for the players to get noticed. If we review the stats in IPL 2011, 80% of the best batsmen are indeed terrific. Indian batsmen - the top ones are: Sehwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir, Virat Kohli, Raina, Yuvraj ( Any surprises there? ), Badrinath ( Highest average this IPL & deserves to be in test squad and possibly 50 overs as well), Manoj Tiwary ( Clearly in solid form), Ambati Rayudu ( Deserves to be in one day and test squads to Windies), Rohit Sharma ( Irrespective of international failures- issue is more of being forced to open and inability to play the short ball- than of talent and is likely to have a second run for sure) , Venugopal Rao ( Who again is in terrific form) and finally Paul Valthaty ( Yes, this is where selectors have to ensure he plays well in first class first before giving him a turn). While the IPL cant be the only basis, most of top 12 batsmen will be in team and will do well. So???

  • Saparya on May 10, 2011, 9:39 GMT

    The author is absolutely right. A proven player of longer version can play in shorter version and excel with respect to his adaptation. Not vice versa. 50 over/Test matches test a cricketer's skill,technique and temperament to the optimum. Sachin's 70% faculty is required for him to be a competant T20 player. For example, let's look into another sport - chess. Skills required for a rapid chess game is different from conventional chess game. The depth of skill in a chess player is tested in longer version of game. V Anand is a master rapid chesser and has better win rate against Kasparov in rapid moves, but not in the other format. T20 is equal to a 10 minute rapid chess, while a test match is equal to 3 hr long classic game.The class of Kasparov let him rule the chess world until he retired world no#1 few years back.

  • bala-chala on May 10, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Barring the trinity of Indian cricket, Badri is better than any other Indian player in any format playing currently. It is a shame to the Indian selection process that he has been kept away from the international stage.

  • on May 10, 2011, 9:18 GMT

    Badrinath is one player who deserves selection solely for his experience over the last decade.He is doing well in this IPL and given his vast experience of playing domestic Tests and ODs, switching to the 50-over format will not be difficult for him.Valthaty has not been a regular for Mumbai in the last few years and he can be given a chance in the Emerging Players tournament this year (Raina is one player who benefitted from the 2008 EPT which followed the IPL). Along with Badri, Rayudu too deserves a chance. As usual the bowling department has not thrown up enough names though Rahul Sharma deserves a look-in.

  • vatsa13 on May 10, 2011, 9:17 GMT

    1) You cannot conclude IPL performers as failed international cricketers... 2) In IPL, they play at least 10-15 games, so out of which probability of clicking in atleast 5-6 innings is more with advantage of playing on home soil... 3) IPL is played on indian slow,spinning pitches, So if u ask IPL HIT young players to perform suddenly on Australian, West Indies bouncy tracks they will definitely fail first time... 4) Again they play 2-3 ODI matches and probability of failing due to new conditions in lesser number of matches with the pressure of retaining spot in Team might affect their performances....

  • on May 10, 2011, 8:43 GMT

    i think u have understood well about ravindra jadeja ....but why didnt these poor selectors understand it & gave away too many chances to this type of worst cricketers......dinesh karthik , murli vijay ,ravindra jadeja , rohit sharma...

  • freakygs on May 10, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    Its time to make way for Badri, Rayudu and Pujara in the Test Squad. WI tour would be an ideal opportunity for them. Dravid and Laxman should think of retirement probably after Australia tour. Sachin too would be rested for WI tour. Ishant deserves a place back at the cost of Sree, and coach should work towards getting another leg spinner/left arm orthodox to fit in Kumble's shoes. Probables for ODI and Test squad: Gambhir(c), Vijay, Yuvi, Kohli, Parthiv, Raina, Badri, Pujara, Rayudu, Ishant, Munaf, Bhajji, Nehra/RP, Irfan, D Karthik, Ojha/Mishra, Yusuf (one or two names here and there) Zak, Dravid, Laxman, Sachin, Dhoni rested :-)

  • on May 10, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    Yeah, great article. Can't believe people are actually calling out Valthaty's name for selection. That's ridiculous. Look at Manish Pandey. Scored a century in IPL 2, people went crazy to select him for the Indian team. Time passed, people couldn't believe it, and look at how he's been playing after that, and no one is calling out his name for selection anymore. Same thing will happen with Valthaty. I hope it doesn't, but chances are it will. Badri deserves a consistent chance more than anyone. Rayudu, also, has proven himself in Ranji and deserves a chance. Same for Tiwary. Someone like Valthaty? Nahhhhh.

  • Kothandaram on May 10, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    Well said Dilip... IPL performances don't always reflect the true ability/class of a player. as u have said Asnodkar isn't an isolated case. what of Gony, he was fast-tracked into the national set-up and came a cropper. hope IPL throws up some good talent. A Rayudu needs a look-in, so does Saurabh Tiwari..

  • ashesm on May 10, 2011, 7:50 GMT

    It is a good but not excellent article because it is not giving the readers the other aspect of the analysis instead of criticising 20/20. A comment on Graeme Hick, Mark Ramprakash, Arun Lal, Praveen Amre to name a few who scored aplenty in 1st class cricket but failed on the real stage. So the bottom line is failures just happen and there will always be people who don't rise to the occasion when involved in international cricket. Also the same thing was said of selecting players for test cricket from people who succeeded in 50 overs cricket and again in this case there can be given examples of successes and failures. In five years time the author ought to analyse how many players have succeeded in international cricket after performing well in T20. I am confident [unlike Holding] that you will be presently surprised.

  • on May 10, 2011, 7:49 GMT

    good artice but must remember ashwin , who goes on to provide same intensity he shows in ipl to international matches as well

  • vatsap on May 10, 2011, 7:45 GMT

    Brilliant piece. Rohit Sharma got an extended run due to his IPL knocks and clamours for Irfan Pathan keeps coming after one good spell in many. But will the likes of Badri ever get a decent run.

  • Looch on May 10, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    Great article Dileep, it must be remembered that IPL is 20/20 club cricket and performances in this competition must be kept in perspective. However, if Indian selectors want to choose teams on the basis on IPL form, I'll be quite pleased. :-)

  • on May 10, 2011, 7:11 GMT

    1What a fitting article! And an interesting angle about the scapegoat part! Now I have one more arrow in my quiver for this topic! Pujara, Rahane, Badrinath are most likely to replace Dravid, Tendulkar, and VVS. They might not equal them in skill or in stature. But they are definitely the most sound batsmen we have right now. Looking at young Rahane's classy innings yesterday, it distiguished him from plain firecrackers like Jadeja, Valthaty (his Mumbai team mate) and even Rayadu

  • addiemanav on May 10, 2011, 7:02 GMT

    the biggest success of ipl has been that,the players hav become more professional where they are ready to play a game every 2nd-3rd day without making any fuss about it!!as far as player performances are concerned,hav to agree with the writer that none of the players who became overnight stars in ipl, with little first class credentials havent replicated the performance as much in intl cricket as we wud like!players who had already proved themselves in first-class but didnt get any oppurtunity got the ipl platform & thus hav faired much better on intl circuit!consider the case of murali vijay!he smashed a 50 ball 120 with 10 sixes in ipl3,and also won man of the tnmnt in champions league!!he has been a regular feature for csk!!but the first time the indian public saw him was against a gud aussie side in a test where he score 40s in each of the innings!!all of us knew at that very moment that this guy has got some talent!!ipl is gr8 platform for gud 1st class plyrs!only ipl isnt enough!

  • venbas on May 10, 2011, 6:33 GMT

    For heavens sake pls do not compare Badri to Valthaty even for a no-brainer. Badri would have been a permanent fixture in out test team long ago but for Indias Fab five who held fort magnificently. Valthaty is a 2 match wonder who has now been sorted out by tom dick and harry.

  • on May 10, 2011, 6:23 GMT

    seriosuly.. good article. I dont hear the name Asnodkar at all this season. these ppl are paid like hell.. they need to improve so that they can play the read deal-- tests and ODIs

  • MaruthuDelft on May 10, 2011, 6:00 GMT

    Valthaty must be given an opportunity immediately. I saw the 120 ball by ball. I closely observed his body language and eyes. Sure he played one or two false strokes but that was just about it; no more. He was confident from begining to end; after every stroke he topped up his composure; and kept going. He played 2 more good knocks. And lately although he did not score enough he didn't fail to deliver a few lusty blows in each of his knocks. He has done enough. Also he is 27. There is no point in bringing in 20 year olds to the national eleven unless they are very special like Tendulkar; by special I mean the disposition to go on and on. Normally if you bring someone in early twenties he goes tired in early thirties; take my word; Raina won't last long; if late twenties late thirties; so if you bring in an early twenty guy the country is wasting the talents of those who are in their late twenties and early thirties. Make full use of Valthaty, Badri, Rayudu, M Tiwary; younger ones later

  • ListenToMe on May 10, 2011, 5:56 GMT

    Excellent article! I have been telling about this to my friends since the first season IPL. The selectors should consider primarily the first class performance to select a player to the national side. After all, cricket skills is not just hitting 6s and 4s.

  • Mahesh4811 on May 10, 2011, 5:52 GMT

    Nice article this...Asnodkar was super impressive in first IPL...but unfortunately, his mettle wasn't strong enough. There's a system in place. Under-17, under-19, then Ranji, then 'A' teams and finally the India cap. Whoever goes through this system, is much more likely to stay at the international level. IPL is only for money and entertainment.

  • on May 10, 2011, 5:51 GMT

    Dileep, very timely reminder to the selectors two days before they sit to pick the team for the Windies tour. The IPL can never be(and should not be)the yardstick for national selection.

  • jimbond on May 10, 2011, 5:48 GMT

    The selectors were doing no favours to Asnodkar by selecting him in the A team. Despite belonging to a weak Ranji side, he had a firstclass average of over 50 at that time (even now he averages above 47). Some players do fail to make the transition, especially when they have to play in different surfaces against far better players abroad. However, sometimes class is apparent. When we see the ease with which players like Rayudu, Kohli, Badrinath (and even Rohit Sharma) play all kinds of bowling in the IPL, it seems that its only a matter of adaptability. There is no need to downplay IPL in every article. IPL provides a very good test of the range of strokes a batsman possesses; and it gives a good asssesment of bowlers to contain. Of course- to understand capabilities in defense and temparament, First class cricket is relevant. Giving opportunities at the higher levels like in the A teams is the next step. And dont write away Gony, and Valhaty just yet.

  • anuajm on May 10, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    Brilliant article!! Though both Nayar & Jadeja had done well in other formats apart from IPL to get a place in the Indian side.With talks of a lot of seniors opting out of West Indies, its a great chance for the selectors to bring new a lot of new blood in the team.Top among those who must be selected are Badrinath (has been one of the best in IPL too), Pujara, Rayadu & Parthiv Patel.Ashwin will be there & I see a comeback for Amit Mishra too. Hope the selectors do not select IPL champs like Rohit Sharma, Murali Vijay, Valthaty & the likes and let them prove themselves in the domestic circuit for some more time.In the fast bowling department,Ishant may get a nod along with Munaf, PK and Sreesanth!! While Yuvraj might get a call for the test team.Sincerely hoping though Badrinath gets a long run in the team.He deserves it the most.He is not that old (remember a certain Michael Hussey?) and has played absolutely fantastically this IPL.Parthiv played brillaintly in SA & deserves a chance.

  • rajsheth on May 10, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    Great Article Dileep.. spot on.. I do agree that IPL is no benchmark but then again it is a good platform for the unknown domestic cricketers to get out of their comfort zone and play with/ against quality international cricketers!! especially with the amount of cricket that India plays most domestic players dont even get a chance to play with Indian internationals...

  • Jaundiced_Observer on May 10, 2011, 4:43 GMT

    Your point is well-taken, but I wouldnt dismiss the IPL as a completely unreliable indicator of quality like you seem to suggest. For seasoned observers can sure tell the difference between Jakati and Ojha. When you see a new spinner or pacer bowl, its not just how many wickets he takes, but who he dismisses and bowls well to. Ashwin bowled tightly in the last IPL to batsmen of international class--that is a good indicator, as we can now see. The problem with Gony/Jadeja/Asnodkar/Nayar selections were the fact that their success was built around the opposing weak links----that is, picking up wickets of less accomplished batsmen and carting friendly medium-pacers all over for runs. The thing to watch is how bowlers bowl to the batsmen of international class and vice-versa, and on wickets that arent tailor-made for them. Rahul Sharma this year has shown good signs that way. The examples you highlighted are cases of barking up the wrong tree in the first place

  • on May 10, 2011, 4:42 GMT

    Superb article . IPL is just to show the selectors that a player like this exist . Not a criteria for selection .

  • SAboucher on May 10, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    seems like so...but enough chances at international arena would be supplemented!!!

  • on May 10, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    This is one of the stupidest article I have come across. Dileep , your dislike for IPL is very well known.

    Doing well in IPL doesn't make you a good player in one days. Isn't it like doing well in Ranji trophy doesn't make you a good player in one dayers. There are tons of example from Ajay Sharma to Vikram Rathod to Wasim Jaffar. There is no point writing this article , everybody knows what you are stating.

    Ravinder Jadeja is good player , he will play more for India and he came to fame through IPL. You can say the same thing about Yusuf Pathan as well.

    In fact Rahul Sharma will play for India some day , may be in T20 and he has come to fame through IPL.

    Some would click some wouldn't , as simple as that.

  • mrcool on May 10, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    very well written...selectors are picking odi squad just based on IPL..IPL heroes rohit sharma,Ravindra Jadeja,yusuf pathan,gony have been flop in international matches but certain players like badrinath and uthappa have been performing even in 50 over format in domestics and they have been ignored always..Player like manish pandey have good temperement for odi but he is flop in IPL but selectors wont consider his 50 over domestic record but will notice his poor performance in IPL

  • xylo on May 10, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    Thanks for a very sensible article at a time when the "media" is tossing up names for national selection that include the likes of Rohit Sharma and Robin Uthappa. It is also noteworthy that the bowling quality is alarmingly deteriorating with every IPL, and the batsmen are making merry and growing in a whole lot of false confidence. Compare that to the leagues in England that are throwing around heaps of pace bowling talent. I was hoping you would also throw in a line about how talent is also misled by the IPL and confidence slammed - case in point being Pujara being sent in at No. 6 by RCB in spite of having a Kohli, whose position was stressed at every press conference during the WC... while the neighboring state's team CSK knows when and how to play Badrinath. I hope Pujara takes heart from the fact that the likes of Dravid and Laxman aren't finding it easy either and does not lose his confidence.

  • on May 10, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    Excellent article and very rightly said. IPL performances are not key to playing in the national side.

  • bks123 on May 10, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    This concept itself is a no-brainer. If you carefully look at the performances in all the IPLs, you can screen the people who are the quality performers. For India it has been Sachin, Raina and Rohit...every year..last yr and this year its raydu..then we have vijay, badri, robin uthapa, yusuf pathan doing well..sachin spoke in a postmatch presentation abt rohit's ability..hope he will come good in future...now coming to irfan pathan, pple had been cursing dhoni and selectors for not selecting him in the world cup squad..now we know why...robin uthapa need to show that he can hit international level bowlers consistently as he hits our local bowlers in IPL to fight for a place ahead of rohit..Gambhir and kohli are quality players...they are slightly ahead of their contemporaries. they are future captains of India.. So at the moment Indian batting line up in ODI and T20 teams are almost fixed. It's the the WC squad (plus rohit in contention). Slots in test are up for grab.

  • on May 10, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    Superb once again Dileep. It's time the selectors took note of domestic run machines like Badrinath/Rahane etc rather than go for flash in the pan IPL performers.

  • vinayakshukre on May 10, 2011, 3:37 GMT

    Wonderful article !!! Can you also write about how a player should be guided so that he does not become asnodkar ? Dont you think resposibility lies with board and selectors ?

  • harshalb on May 10, 2011, 3:37 GMT

    I am writing my comment about the CSK RR game here because it seem the media has been pressurized by Srinivasan to suppress the story about the pitch change in the last night's game. No match report mentions it. The bulletin refers to it vaguely. Cricket fans are not fools and they want to know how a franchise owner cum BCCI secretary is bullying his way and manipulating the pitch selection. Media don't forget your duty to investigate this.

  • on May 10, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    I agree- however I do think that sometimes the IPL serves as a reminder to the selectors of what they are missing out on- I definitely think that Badrinath and Ishant have done enough to get back in the squad (as well as Manoj Tiwary whose fledgling international career was destroyed by a Brett Lee special and who is coming off a great domestic season as well).

  • nlambda on May 10, 2011, 3:08 GMT

    Asnodkar's first class performances are not bad. He still averages 47+ in that format. This article is a little too aggressive in writing him off as a one dimensional cricketer. It is true that with Badri, Pujara, Raina, Yuvraj around he is unlikely to make the cut to Test level but you should not discard clear evidence of a player's performance to buttress your argument.

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  • nlambda on May 10, 2011, 3:08 GMT

    Asnodkar's first class performances are not bad. He still averages 47+ in that format. This article is a little too aggressive in writing him off as a one dimensional cricketer. It is true that with Badri, Pujara, Raina, Yuvraj around he is unlikely to make the cut to Test level but you should not discard clear evidence of a player's performance to buttress your argument.

  • on May 10, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    I agree- however I do think that sometimes the IPL serves as a reminder to the selectors of what they are missing out on- I definitely think that Badrinath and Ishant have done enough to get back in the squad (as well as Manoj Tiwary whose fledgling international career was destroyed by a Brett Lee special and who is coming off a great domestic season as well).

  • harshalb on May 10, 2011, 3:37 GMT

    I am writing my comment about the CSK RR game here because it seem the media has been pressurized by Srinivasan to suppress the story about the pitch change in the last night's game. No match report mentions it. The bulletin refers to it vaguely. Cricket fans are not fools and they want to know how a franchise owner cum BCCI secretary is bullying his way and manipulating the pitch selection. Media don't forget your duty to investigate this.

  • vinayakshukre on May 10, 2011, 3:37 GMT

    Wonderful article !!! Can you also write about how a player should be guided so that he does not become asnodkar ? Dont you think resposibility lies with board and selectors ?

  • on May 10, 2011, 3:49 GMT

    Superb once again Dileep. It's time the selectors took note of domestic run machines like Badrinath/Rahane etc rather than go for flash in the pan IPL performers.

  • bks123 on May 10, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    This concept itself is a no-brainer. If you carefully look at the performances in all the IPLs, you can screen the people who are the quality performers. For India it has been Sachin, Raina and Rohit...every year..last yr and this year its raydu..then we have vijay, badri, robin uthapa, yusuf pathan doing well..sachin spoke in a postmatch presentation abt rohit's ability..hope he will come good in future...now coming to irfan pathan, pple had been cursing dhoni and selectors for not selecting him in the world cup squad..now we know why...robin uthapa need to show that he can hit international level bowlers consistently as he hits our local bowlers in IPL to fight for a place ahead of rohit..Gambhir and kohli are quality players...they are slightly ahead of their contemporaries. they are future captains of India.. So at the moment Indian batting line up in ODI and T20 teams are almost fixed. It's the the WC squad (plus rohit in contention). Slots in test are up for grab.

  • on May 10, 2011, 4:05 GMT

    Excellent article and very rightly said. IPL performances are not key to playing in the national side.

  • xylo on May 10, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    Thanks for a very sensible article at a time when the "media" is tossing up names for national selection that include the likes of Rohit Sharma and Robin Uthappa. It is also noteworthy that the bowling quality is alarmingly deteriorating with every IPL, and the batsmen are making merry and growing in a whole lot of false confidence. Compare that to the leagues in England that are throwing around heaps of pace bowling talent. I was hoping you would also throw in a line about how talent is also misled by the IPL and confidence slammed - case in point being Pujara being sent in at No. 6 by RCB in spite of having a Kohli, whose position was stressed at every press conference during the WC... while the neighboring state's team CSK knows when and how to play Badrinath. I hope Pujara takes heart from the fact that the likes of Dravid and Laxman aren't finding it easy either and does not lose his confidence.

  • mrcool on May 10, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    very well written...selectors are picking odi squad just based on IPL..IPL heroes rohit sharma,Ravindra Jadeja,yusuf pathan,gony have been flop in international matches but certain players like badrinath and uthappa have been performing even in 50 over format in domestics and they have been ignored always..Player like manish pandey have good temperement for odi but he is flop in IPL but selectors wont consider his 50 over domestic record but will notice his poor performance in IPL

  • on May 10, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    This is one of the stupidest article I have come across. Dileep , your dislike for IPL is very well known.

    Doing well in IPL doesn't make you a good player in one days. Isn't it like doing well in Ranji trophy doesn't make you a good player in one dayers. There are tons of example from Ajay Sharma to Vikram Rathod to Wasim Jaffar. There is no point writing this article , everybody knows what you are stating.

    Ravinder Jadeja is good player , he will play more for India and he came to fame through IPL. You can say the same thing about Yusuf Pathan as well.

    In fact Rahul Sharma will play for India some day , may be in T20 and he has come to fame through IPL.

    Some would click some wouldn't , as simple as that.