March 11, 2013

'It's not under-6s, this is Test cricket'

ESPNcricinfo staff
The cricket world reacts to the axing of Shane Watson, James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson and Usman Khawaja from the Mohali Test
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"I'm surprised that's the penalty for something so mundane. It seems like it was on a schoolboy tour or something. It's an over the top reaction."
Former Australia captain Allan Border

"I'm stunned. I've never heard of this sort of thing before at top level in any sport. When you are losing there are niggling things there but they're grown men, it's not school boy stuff. It's not under-6s, this is Test cricket… there would have been a better way."
Former Australia batsman Mark Waugh

"From my experience report writing is not a player's strength, no surprise to hear some failing, need to focus more on field short comings?"
Former Australia allrounder Tom Moody

"As I have always said the coach should not be a selector. He should communicate well with the players and help them prepare, that's it! Regarding the issue of four players being unavailable for Aust selection due to not delivering homework or a report to the coach, the answer is simple: the captain runs the team and in conjunction with the selectors picks the team. The captain should always have final say. Ridiculous what's happening."
Former Australia spinner Shane Warne

"Adults we are, not schoolboys! Please let's act properly and make good decisions in India! Need these boys playing."
Former Australia batsman Darren Lehmann

"To many wrong people are picked for jobs who give a fancy presentation!!"
Former Australia batsman Damien Martyn

"What is going on with Aussie Cricket?? Didn't realise you had to do an essay to get a selection these days..!!!!!"
Former England captain Michael Vaughan

"Implications from these actions are serious.. I feel it is deeper than it appears. Aust are in trouble!!"
Former Australia batsman Dean Jones

"Disappointed in the news of the players being sent home. Lead up to the Ashes is struggling. Need to get back on top #ausvind #breakingpoint"
Former Australia wicketkeeper Ian Healy

"Financially cricket is great these days, but I'm glad I played when it was enjoyable and cricket was all that mattered - wickets and runs."
Former England fast bowler Darren Gough

"To punish players for not being able to produce a PowerPoint presentation is baffling. They just haven't done their homework and to punish them is ridiculous. They have not been out until four in the morning, they have not been jumping off ferries or putting hands through doors."
Former England bowler Matthew Hoggard

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  • POSTED BY big_al_81 on | March 11, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Very surprised to see the level of criticism for the management here. What they were asked to do was not in itself unreasonable. A text is not hard to write. Nor is it unreasonable to see this as an exercise in corporate responsibility. They win lose or draw as a unit. They were also given an extra 36hrs to comply with a relatively simple request. Team unity really matters, especially when you're not all individually brilliant. England played several notches below their best against SA last summer and it's no coincidence that the KP debacle was undermining team unity at the time. I'm not convinced that the punishment fits the crime. Nor am I convinced the opprobrium poured on the management fits their decision. I've heard some people making excuses about the literacy of the players - nonsense. We have to put up with all sorts of inane rubbish on twitter from current and ex-players - can't these guys even manage a text for the sake of team harmony?

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    What's the point in asking players to do things if there's no punishment for not doing them? A lot of criticism has been levelled at the management for dropping these players, but very little at the players themselves for not following their coach's orders. None of these players is KP: they can either disrespect the coach or keep being in the side, not both. Watson shouldn't be there in any case if he's not bowling. The only problem with this decision is it leaves them a batsman short for the next test, but that's more to do with squad selection (they should have picked a batsman instead of a Steve Smith).

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | March 12, 2013, 12:54 GMT

    "It's not under-6s, this is Test cricket" - yes & its about time that many international players & ex-players started behaving like it is/was the most important part of their careers... Their behaviour would be seen as intolerable by most "professional" sporting codes including AFL & NRL teams with players getting much bigger penalties than a 1 game ban...

  • POSTED BY Kulaputra on | March 12, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    I only hope for sanity and test cricket's sake, India do not lose in Mohali and go onto clean the series 4-0.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    With 100s of options Aussies selected Mickey Arthur for this job who is asking for ideas from its players. He shud share his salary with the players.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    From the little information that is out in the public eye, it definitely seems to be a very harsh punishment. And quite unusual for an Aussie team to do this. Of course, what is not known is whether the team was informed of the consequences of not providing feedback, or, if there are more sinister issues behind this suspension. A possible leadership coup from Watto along with support from some of the bowlers might be something that one needs to check out on. Either way, it is going to make it an interesting test. Poor Dhoni and team - even if they continue to play well and Win this will take some of the sheen off their performance. It is just not cricket!!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | March 12, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    @ IndChamps. Calling Clarke shrewd is a bit more than an overstatement. The skipper who just became the first ever to declare and then lose a test by an innings just crippled his team by sacking 4 of his most valuable players for not doing their homework! That is not shrewd, that's plain dumb, and shows a severe lack of strong, inspiring leadership. If anything, Clarke should be sacked for failing to provide the leadership that inspires teams to win. If this team is in such turmoil, the questions should start at the top

    Shrewd is not hanging out a team's dirty laundry for all to see. Shrewd is not inviting condemnation from all over the world. Shrewd is not making the Aus team the butt of hundreds of twitter jokes. He just handed the psychological advantage to India. Dhoni will be shrewd and capitalise on that!

    Clarke has laid the blame for his team's poor performance squarely on the players, instead of standing up and admitting that he has not inspired his team to perform.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    Had Australia, been this heavy on Dumping players back in the late '70' 80 early '90 half or even more of these Australian Legends would not be House hold names. Australian Cricket would never have Dominated like it did, as no one would of been available to play due to Essay writing Suspensions.... At least Border knew how to captain and any Issues where sorted on the Field or Dressing Room, Everyone remembers the Legendary Words He gave McDermott, instead of not letting him bowl or even worse dump him for life (Katich) gave him the ball so he could proof himself!! Sorry Clarke your loosing this Team , maybe Time to Talk to some past Captains?

  • POSTED BY TheOnlyEmperor on | March 12, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    Most people I see, think that it the coach's job to figure out what went wrong when you lose. Of course it is job to think too... but a good coach is one who makes the players do the thinking themselves and come up with a plan to which they can take ownership to deliver the right results. A coach may lay out a plan but if the players refuse to take ownership and commit to results then the plan is pretty useless. The Aussies didn't quite fail in the skills department. They failed in the applications department, which is why the introspection tool employed by the coach to guide the players to better performance is so vital. The Aussies think they can't win in India and until they do, they can't. Cook came to India confident of putting up a stiff fight and in the process won. The Indians have a lot to learn about their own performances overseas from the way the English and Aussies have handled themselves in India now. Good case studies!

  • POSTED BY Earth-kar on | March 12, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    @big_al_81...I disagree with you when you say that the team management's actions shouldn't be harshly criticized. The team management is totally guilty here. I agree that team members must show qualities of being a team player and so on, but the whole exercise must have been discrete. The management has to be harshly criticized because it is their decisions ultimately that affects team harmony; removing people from a team is not a joke and one cannot escape criticism if it doesn't have solid reasoning. The fact that they chose to drop people for frivolous reasons invited opinions on twitter. A wayward player/employee can still be counseled but nothing can be worse than a group of dumb decision makers.

  • POSTED BY big_al_81 on | March 11, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Very surprised to see the level of criticism for the management here. What they were asked to do was not in itself unreasonable. A text is not hard to write. Nor is it unreasonable to see this as an exercise in corporate responsibility. They win lose or draw as a unit. They were also given an extra 36hrs to comply with a relatively simple request. Team unity really matters, especially when you're not all individually brilliant. England played several notches below their best against SA last summer and it's no coincidence that the KP debacle was undermining team unity at the time. I'm not convinced that the punishment fits the crime. Nor am I convinced the opprobrium poured on the management fits their decision. I've heard some people making excuses about the literacy of the players - nonsense. We have to put up with all sorts of inane rubbish on twitter from current and ex-players - can't these guys even manage a text for the sake of team harmony?

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    What's the point in asking players to do things if there's no punishment for not doing them? A lot of criticism has been levelled at the management for dropping these players, but very little at the players themselves for not following their coach's orders. None of these players is KP: they can either disrespect the coach or keep being in the side, not both. Watson shouldn't be there in any case if he's not bowling. The only problem with this decision is it leaves them a batsman short for the next test, but that's more to do with squad selection (they should have picked a batsman instead of a Steve Smith).

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | March 12, 2013, 12:54 GMT

    "It's not under-6s, this is Test cricket" - yes & its about time that many international players & ex-players started behaving like it is/was the most important part of their careers... Their behaviour would be seen as intolerable by most "professional" sporting codes including AFL & NRL teams with players getting much bigger penalties than a 1 game ban...

  • POSTED BY Kulaputra on | March 12, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    I only hope for sanity and test cricket's sake, India do not lose in Mohali and go onto clean the series 4-0.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    With 100s of options Aussies selected Mickey Arthur for this job who is asking for ideas from its players. He shud share his salary with the players.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    From the little information that is out in the public eye, it definitely seems to be a very harsh punishment. And quite unusual for an Aussie team to do this. Of course, what is not known is whether the team was informed of the consequences of not providing feedback, or, if there are more sinister issues behind this suspension. A possible leadership coup from Watto along with support from some of the bowlers might be something that one needs to check out on. Either way, it is going to make it an interesting test. Poor Dhoni and team - even if they continue to play well and Win this will take some of the sheen off their performance. It is just not cricket!!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | March 12, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    @ IndChamps. Calling Clarke shrewd is a bit more than an overstatement. The skipper who just became the first ever to declare and then lose a test by an innings just crippled his team by sacking 4 of his most valuable players for not doing their homework! That is not shrewd, that's plain dumb, and shows a severe lack of strong, inspiring leadership. If anything, Clarke should be sacked for failing to provide the leadership that inspires teams to win. If this team is in such turmoil, the questions should start at the top

    Shrewd is not hanging out a team's dirty laundry for all to see. Shrewd is not inviting condemnation from all over the world. Shrewd is not making the Aus team the butt of hundreds of twitter jokes. He just handed the psychological advantage to India. Dhoni will be shrewd and capitalise on that!

    Clarke has laid the blame for his team's poor performance squarely on the players, instead of standing up and admitting that he has not inspired his team to perform.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    Had Australia, been this heavy on Dumping players back in the late '70' 80 early '90 half or even more of these Australian Legends would not be House hold names. Australian Cricket would never have Dominated like it did, as no one would of been available to play due to Essay writing Suspensions.... At least Border knew how to captain and any Issues where sorted on the Field or Dressing Room, Everyone remembers the Legendary Words He gave McDermott, instead of not letting him bowl or even worse dump him for life (Katich) gave him the ball so he could proof himself!! Sorry Clarke your loosing this Team , maybe Time to Talk to some past Captains?

  • POSTED BY TheOnlyEmperor on | March 12, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    Most people I see, think that it the coach's job to figure out what went wrong when you lose. Of course it is job to think too... but a good coach is one who makes the players do the thinking themselves and come up with a plan to which they can take ownership to deliver the right results. A coach may lay out a plan but if the players refuse to take ownership and commit to results then the plan is pretty useless. The Aussies didn't quite fail in the skills department. They failed in the applications department, which is why the introspection tool employed by the coach to guide the players to better performance is so vital. The Aussies think they can't win in India and until they do, they can't. Cook came to India confident of putting up a stiff fight and in the process won. The Indians have a lot to learn about their own performances overseas from the way the English and Aussies have handled themselves in India now. Good case studies!

  • POSTED BY Earth-kar on | March 12, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    @big_al_81...I disagree with you when you say that the team management's actions shouldn't be harshly criticized. The team management is totally guilty here. I agree that team members must show qualities of being a team player and so on, but the whole exercise must have been discrete. The management has to be harshly criticized because it is their decisions ultimately that affects team harmony; removing people from a team is not a joke and one cannot escape criticism if it doesn't have solid reasoning. The fact that they chose to drop people for frivolous reasons invited opinions on twitter. A wayward player/employee can still be counseled but nothing can be worse than a group of dumb decision makers.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    I am surprised at Alan Border's comments. Has he forgotten his episode with Craig McDermot in England when the young quicky ended up crying?

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | March 12, 2013, 4:45 GMT

    Warne is right, the coach shouldnt be a selector...but further to that, the captain shouldnt be one either.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | March 12, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    "It's not under-6s, this is Test cricket" - yes & its about time that many international players & ex-players started behaving like it is/was the most important part of their careers... Their behaviour would be seen as intolerable by most "professional" sporting codes including AFL & NRL teams with players getting much bigger penalties than a 1 game ban...

  • POSTED BY sharidas on | March 12, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    Not all boys in a class are alike. Management skills are required to handle each individual. A simple reminder to the four would have sufficed. Obviously, this came about more out of a protective reaction to the failures in the first two tests.

  • POSTED BY on | March 12, 2013, 4:14 GMT

    I agree with what Damien Martyn has said : To many wrong people are picked for jobs who give a fancy presentation!........ Over emphasis on presentation skills is a big taboo in every profession... Instead of concentrating on your core competence and what is required to be done,whole focus shifts on how good you are in making presentations.......Is james pattinson picked up for making good powerpoint presentation or taking wickets? This is a bizzarre decision. Australia should understand that they are not 2-0 up but 0-2 down. They badly needed Pattinson and Watson in Mohali Test. That wicket would have suited Pattinson and Shane Watson had a good record at Mohali.

  • POSTED BY Rohana54 on | March 12, 2013, 3:31 GMT

    Has everyone forgotten about discipline? It's what makes you better at anything. Is this too harsh punishment, you bet YES, but will it make a change in how the players will do in the future ,YES will it make a dent in the Australian Cricket -NOT A CHANCE. We are too strong for that. Micky- is that all what you got?

  • POSTED BY gogoldengreens on | March 12, 2013, 3:21 GMT

    Wish that Phil Hughes didn't submit his essay.... What was Pattinson supposed to submit: "If Siddle & Starc took as many wickets as me and the batsman could bat we would have won both tests"?

  • POSTED BY Jayseks on | March 12, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    All well said than done! I agree with Moody, it is time to focus more on field short comings! On a lighter note, as kids many of our champions must have skipped classes and defaulted in their home work to play their cricket! After all as ardent cricket fans and administrators we were happy for them not doing their home work then as we got to see such wonderful cricketers! But 'why this kolaveri' now???

  • POSTED BY Bonehead_maz on | March 12, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    I wonder what would have happened if 6 hadn't done the reports ?

  • POSTED BY Frankspeaker-USA on | March 12, 2013, 2:47 GMT

    Very sad day for the game of Cricket.... very harsh decision indeed... cricket players are to show skills in the field... for not doing "Home work" and being punished will not help players play their natural game... performance will be effected... pressurizing them to comply ..... for minor things.... this kind of Hitlers attitude...truly said Warne..Coach should not be a selector.. Mickey Arthurs... n Clark...whole Australian cricket will pay price for this insane decision. Talented Players like Usman Khawaja...and others.. who could turn the serious around axed !!!

  • POSTED BY bumsteer on | March 12, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    I wonder how a presentation advocating changing the coach and captain would have been received by Mickey Arthur!!!!

  • POSTED BY Fusey74 on | March 12, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    What an absolute joke. So now they need to be scholars as well as sportsmen. There is no way this disciplinery action can help. They need encouragement and support. Not this crap. England are rubbing their hands together.

  • POSTED BY TZero on | March 12, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    The secret that kept Aussies at the top for over a decade is finally out!

  • POSTED BY akpy on | March 12, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    imagine if indian team was asked of this...there will be notes in atleast 5 different languages and Duncan Fletcher would go nuts...haha...why couldnt they have asked each player to think about the issues and then had a long meeting where they could have spoken out? These are cricketers and not management grads. They know what they are doing as otherwise they will not be at the highest level and definitely would prefer to sit and chat rather than write stories about it...but who cares as long as australia keep losing

  • POSTED BY tommyb1234 on | March 12, 2013, 1:27 GMT

    I am very surprised by the number of people blaming the management and not the players here. Even more surprised by the number of big named ex Aussie cricketers who have shown an even bigger lack of understanding of simple management techniques and confusing them with schoolboy tasks. Asking a professional or set of professionals, people who should know their industry inside out to make an assessment of where they think they may be going wrong is not a schoolboy task by any means. It is an opportunity for people to communicate their views with the overall goal being to better team performance. It was clearly a simple request to all members of the same team giving them an opportunity to highlight what they think could be done better. A brainstorming exercise if you will. It encourages leadership and taking collective ownership of the predicament the Aussies are in, given they are 2-0 down in a series.

  • POSTED BY hmmmmm... on | March 12, 2013, 0:58 GMT

    Mickey Arthur should have read one of the countless interviews given by Watto over the last few months published on CricInfo to know his response...maybe it was not a recognised medium for submission.

  • POSTED BY Nathan_R_Patrick on | March 12, 2013, 0:46 GMT

    This is deeper than it appears. I think these 4 guys must have undermined Pup's authority and showed utter disrespect towards Micky. both took it very personally. I doubt any of these guys are playing to lose. They just haven;t found the formula to win. That's all. Aussies are brash when they win but can be brasher when losing. Pup leading the team by intimidation? Does he expect respect from the rest in future? The team should fear the captain out of respect, not respect him out of fear. What in the world Pup is thinking? Definitely not a recipe for victory in the current series and future. To me, Pup has a tough time ahead as a captain. IMHO, he should step aside and focus on his batting. Apparently it was reported that he yells at his team-mates on the field. Aus team is increasingly looking like a pakistani team. Where are Chappells now? Why aren't they criticizing this? Or their traget is alway an ENG/IND teams?

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 23:09 GMT

    It's really really harsh.. I was shell-shocked to hear this news. I have never ever heard of this stuff happening in the 1990's... Come on Mickey, you could have arranged a team meeting and discussed it..

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 22:17 GMT

    I hope India gives Clake a big drubbing in Mohali!!!! Australia has become a useless team with no leadership skills!!! Hey Clarki , I can give you an excellent power point presentaion, will you select me?

  • POSTED BY khalidSami on | March 11, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    Well coach do not give your assignments to the players. Coach that's your job to observe and discuss with each player what they can improve on.

    Captain Michael Clark always felt threatened by Watson who is better player in all forms, wanted to undermine Watson at every instance. We all know he is an opening batsman and Michael wanted to slot him at No 4 and once felt that Watson was not an automatic choice in the middle order.

    Finally, Mr. Coach never use pharse " line in the sand" for cricketers it is very ungentlemanly creates rift and division in the team. The phrase is used for opponents as an ultimatum not to build team spirit but to go in war.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    To quote Thoreau : "That government is best which governs least." . This might well be the watershed moment in cricket where administrators are finally pressured into changing their increasingly corporate codes of conduct into one which puts maximum stress on playing well. So Hughes, who cannot put bat to ball, gets selected, and Pattinson, who has bowled his heart out on pitches that offer nothing is dropped, because he did not complete some ill guided task that some management guru with no exposure to cricket whispered into the ears of a coach who is looking increasingly lost for ideas. These players who have all criticized have played the game, in a form much purer and uncorrupted by television rights and contracts. Its high time cricket is run by cricketers, or at least those who understand the game.

  • POSTED BY Wefinishthis on | March 11, 2013, 21:46 GMT

    People supporting the management's decision are missing the point. There's a big difference between FORCING players and INSPIRING players. The best leaders never have to FORCE the people they lead to do things like these. If the players aren't feeling confident and inspired to do everything they can to help each other, then that reveals an underlying problem such as lack of confidence and respect for the leadership or even themselves. Punishing players for such mundane issues is not going to fix that and will in fact make it worse as it destroys confidence and makes the players nervous and doubt themselves. That's the worst possible mentality for an elite sportsman. There are plenty of other types of discipline that don't put team selection at risk such as fines etc, but the point is that it shouldn't be necessary if they were actually leading and inspiring the players.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 20:56 GMT

    This is a losing team under stress. A losing coach under stress and a captain who has been sucked into the whirlpool. Arthur has added to the stress by dreaming up what is frankly a stupid exercise. How could it help?

    He should have been thinking about how to reduce the stress and get people to perform better. But the dialectics of stress are such that we often take steps that exacerbate the problem.

    This is not about rebellion so the pro-authority people should take a breather. No need to rush to the side of authority. It is about how to manage a losing team and how to do the best for Australian cricket. This is a disaster for us and some one needs to take control of the situation. Frankly Arthur has signed the equivalent of his resignation form. The rest is only a formality. Those who fantasize about a world of instant obedience might be pleased at the "line in the sand" nonsense. But those who know the human heart will recognize this disaster for what it is.

  • POSTED BY AzAb12754 on | March 11, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    Cricket is gladly known to be a "Gentleman's" game. Australia have done the right thing simple as that. Its all about having the correct attitude first not how good or popular you are.

  • POSTED BY Herbet on | March 11, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    I don't see the big fuss. Australia have axed 4 players, of which only Pattinson is any sort of loss, and he is young enough to bounce back. Johnson has proven himself inadequate, with his good spells lonely islands in the vast sea of rotten rubbish he bowls. For a top order batsmen like Watson to average 36 in this day and age, on the pitches he plays on, spending most of his career in batsmen friendly Australia and having only 2 centuries is nowhere near good enough; especially for the size of ego he carries about. Khawaja hasn't set the world alight either. Move on, with players who won't be any worse, but might actually be professional.

  • POSTED BY dgcov on | March 11, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    Frankly, the fact that, out of the entire Australian touring squad, only four had the dignity not to grovel at Arthur's feet doesn't really say much for the backbone of the rest of the players and the squad as a whole.

    If the coach had asked me to write down how I'd been a naughty boy, I would have told him where to get off; and I would have expected the rest of the team to do likewise.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 18:08 GMT

    People who criticize is not getting the point of such a request. Arthur did not ask for an essay or a powerpoint presentation. He asked the people to come up with suggestions on how the team's performance can be improved, just 3 points. When people don't perform well, then they need to look at the problem from a different perspective. Introspection and coming up with suggestions will help people to look at the issue from a different angle.

    Even if these players don't believe in this entire exercise, they should have done it. If they cannot comply with a simple request like this, how would they collectively implement a team strategy?

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    Well well - something non sense here , if you have alreade decided to punish please use the correct timimg not when 0-2 and 2 more left to get defeat :

    From the tested old books of how to bring success among the team and push them towards synchronized effort to acheive things involves great mixture of SOUL,TALENT,LEADERSHIP SELF BELEIF and HIGH DEGREE of enthisiasm with ideal sequencing of logical aspects ; SAMA DHAANA,BEDA and lastly Danda : what these jokers planning to punish real players -if an individual is not following a process please blame the process first, process is not updated needs tweeking ; fill their names sit next to them and ask them to complete Or chit chat with the payers get their feelings -record and document rather expecting them to post it on your DOOR :Please check the glue at least rather than sending them home - you know who is alerted by doing so? that is INDIANS ; Indians were little relaxing now they are alert they have nothing to lose without pattison.

  • POSTED BY IndianAllDay on | March 11, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Wait a minute here on the bashing with the Coach and Captain. As a team member not only are you expected to contribute with batting, bowling, fielding, keeping, but in such a dramatic series, contribute to the cause of improving the team. Most of us in workplaces worth their salt are expected to contribute with ideas to improve the workplace on a routine basis. These guys are representing the country, and they walked away from a leader's direction to provide ideas? And that's OK? I think the coach did right by axing them. Even if the coach and captain were not the selectors for these games, the selectors should consider this course. Of course, there is the purpose of setting an example. But I see a mutiny, both in the refusal to comply, and the comments afterward. Humility, and team spirit take people places.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    Shane Watson is a passionate player. Pattinson is the best bowler who gives it all.

    These two players have one thing in common. They are susceptible to injuries. Asking them to conform to standards for the sake of standards is ridiculous.

    They have given it all. Asking them to explain is plain stupid. People need to understand not all will fit within the system. Outliers will always be there.

  • POSTED BY AjaySridharan on | March 11, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    They should have just responded like how Azhar used to respond after a loss - "We need to improve our bowling, batting and fielding"

    What more insight was Mickey expecting?!

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | March 11, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    seems odd to make players put stuff in writing when they clearly more comfortable working with their hands. going entirely by his on-field behaviour, pattision seems to have a faiirly limited vocabulary and doesn't seem as if he would be able to adequately express his feelings on paper. why didn't arthur just sit them down and have a chat with them give them 100 lines of 'we must not lose tests to india'. on the other hand this is the kind of discipline that indian cricket could do with. perhaps arthur could throw his name in the hat when fletcher's done.

  • POSTED BY Sachin_Rahul_fan on | March 11, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    Australian cricket in doldrums..As an ardent cricket fan,it really pains to see these things happen..Mr.Mickey Arthur,its simple man management..Rather than expecting these schoolboyish essays from players,u got to back them when they are down and out..If someone is getting punished for these petty things,then by this time most of our Indian players wud'nt be playing for our country..Its better to sack MA and appoint someone like Darren Lehmann,John wright or Gary Kirsten who are good at man management..

  • POSTED BY labella on | March 11, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    i think this is really very harsh but at d same time if aus won next test match everybody will say great decision and if they loose what a stupid decision to drop player like watson

  • POSTED BY wake_up_india on | March 11, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    I completely support and respect the action of the Australian team management. This is not about essay writing or powerpoint presentations as some have alleged -- it is about lack of teamwork, specifically: lack of respect for those that happen to be the appointed leaders, however you may disagree with them or dislike them, i.e.insubordination. Providing the required feedback did not require a novel to be written. Games are won and lost in the mind before they lost in the field, and it is in the mind that the rot has be stemmed. The Indian team should know that better than any other. This may hurt the Austrailian team in the short term but will pay it back handsomely in the long term.

  • POSTED BY MysterySpin on | March 11, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    Derren Lehmann is half right with, "adults we are, not school boys." We're talking international cricketers here. As professionals it should be expected to at least be thinking about their own and the team's performance and how they can improve at the international level especially at times when the team is struggling.

    For all those saying Mickey Arthur should be doing that instead they are missing the point of the exercise. Mickey knows full well what the problems have been but the point of the exercise is to get the players to realise it for themselves too as for professional players they won't improve if they are not capable of recognising for themselves how they should improve.

    It is not unreasonable to think that professional players could identify three areas of improvements (they were asked to make three points not a whole presentation like some have said). It would send a poor message for team discipline of people who don't do the exercises are selected before those that do.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    I am really shocked because two of them didn't even played any test. This is really school stuff.

  • POSTED BY IndChamps on | March 11, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    Suprised at this decision taken by one of the shrewd minds (along with MS) in cricket in recent times "The Pup" . Cant imagine how Arthur would have influenced Pup to such an extent. Just came to my mind that Pup and Arthur are the acting selectors for the third test and this comes as a massive disappoinment, a shocker.

    Never seen such a Drama in Australian Cricket since long. A Tour to forget for the Aussies till now.

  • POSTED BY JayanDamodaran on | March 11, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    The problem seems to be more deep rooted than it appears. As Clarke said "There have been a number of issues on this tour where I don't think we have been hitting our standards." There surely is some serious lack of communication. First of all, it's not that tough to e mail or text your opinion about below par performance by players at such highest level. They are not a mere bunch of players. Secondly, if there is some reluctance from some of the players, the captain and coach can talk one to one. Such a thing does not happen when there is disunity in the team. There might be some serial misbehavior from the quartet. Or else, they would have never axed a player like James Pattinson! More over the lack of interest for Shane Watson appears debatable to me now, especially when the team in such dire straits. There can't be smoke without fire!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    Have always doubted Mickey Arthur as a coach for such a big cricketing nation. How embarrassing. Everything has fallen apart for the mighty Ausies.

  • POSTED BY sonicattack on | March 11, 2013, 16:02 GMT

    Everyone seems to be forgetting that 13 players did comply with the request from the team management - so not that difficult, was it?

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 15:51 GMT

    Can these guys stop running the cricket of this great cricketing nation,as if it were a joke.I am tired of all these plans,reviews,and presentations already.There was no serious disciplinary breach,if it's only these damned presentations,we are talking about.It was a stupid idea to begin with.Introspection is always a good start,and am quite sure everyone of the four players sacked would have been on-board with an analysis of their game and how to make it better after suffering the demoralising loss at Hyderabad,but three point power point presentations for something as patent as that,is not what today's head coaches get paid their honest bucks for.This is juvenile and churlish for what one thought to be grown up men.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    If these players cannot follow a simple instruction from a coach, how cud they comply with other team decisions. Continuing in the team with such an attitude is not setting a good example for the other players.

  • POSTED BY thekaz on | March 11, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    In response to some of the guys comments, I read on another post that they had to write 3 bullet points criticizing their own performance. This is not a matter of if they cant do that, you dont need an English degree to do that, this is clearly lazyness and lack of effort especially when 2-0 down and getting hammered. I back Clarke and the Coach, although there is definitely more than meets the eye in this story.

  • POSTED BY roy-apps on | March 11, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    Cricket Australia, in my humble opinion, have made themselves a laughing stock both internationally and in their own country. One only has to read the comments from so many of their retired cricketing heroes to realise what a massive blunder they have made - and they will almost certainly have created a level of bad feeling within the team that will take many months (and, most probably a change of captaincy and management) to resolve. Not, exactly, what they need so shortly before the Ashes - but splendid news for England!

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | March 11, 2013, 15:21 GMT

    He gave them several days time to give their feedback!! What stopped Aurthur from going to each player one on one and getting the points he wanted? he cant mix with players? I thought coach talks to each player regularly anyway. This incident if true, reflects Aurthur's incapacity for the job. If this is not true and the disciplinary action is a cover up for something else totally, that is understandable. Otherwise why would players not in the 11 be punished?

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Decision of the Aussie Coach and captain to drop the four players for the third test against India in Mohali for not writing down their thoughts in a paper and giving to the Coach is really bizzare. Obviously Cricket Australia should find out what really happened.

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT

    Did Mickey make a report? Probably he wanted to get these reports and make his own for CA? :P

  • POSTED BY rtom on | March 11, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    i never thought in my life that australian team have to go through this ! even though AUS team is playing against my team, i love them for that fierce competetion they give .. .whats happening ! i guess sport has got affected by more mangement people ! i dont understand why the hell players have to give presentation ? Its like an end of the day work place ! grow up guys.. there are millions in india want to see Clark scoring centrury, or the pace bowlers speeding up and knocking off the batsman... and spinners spinning their web..

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:42 GMT

    I like the reactions from Legends like Allan Border, Shane warne and Dean Jones. I think Arthur has to do work rather asking reports from the players. Really stupid decision.

  • POSTED BY fazald on | March 11, 2013, 14:41 GMT

    First of all Cricket Australia needs to be cleaned up for doing an unsatisfactory job where aussie cricket is concerned before disciplinary action is taken against the players. Compared to other codes in the country the standard of cricket in the country has deteriorated very badly during the last five years or so while some officials hang on to their jobs without any care whatsoever.They are only interested in making a fast buck via the "Big Bash" and just don't seem to care for test cricket anymore.They not only select mediocre coaches and a Chairman of Selectors too old for the job but also mediocre players to represent the team while good cricketers are left behind to ponder about their future. I reckon aussie cricket is now heading in the wrong direction and needs a thorough cleanup from the top to the bottom. Sooner than later we desperately need some new and young blood to administer the game in this country.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    So your team is in real trouble being 2 - 0 down and the coach tries to install some pride and camaraderie by making the players take responsibility for their performance. Then you as an underperforming player you basically tell the coach (and captain) to take a hike. Then you get axed and it is the coach who is being a dick??? No wonder Australian cricket is in trouble! All the ex-Aus players who criticize the coach in this piece took responsibility when things went wrong and fixed it. Clearly the current crop lacks that responsibility...

  • POSTED BY Master_uv_Puppetz on | March 11, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    I can only accept this decision when the players were explicitly told of the repercussions of failing to write the three points. Lets face it, decisions like these are hard to swallow but they go a long way in teaching players the values and expectations set by the management.

    I hope at the end of the day, all this fuss would only be for the betterment of Aus cricket. Would hate to see some silly reaction from the affected players.

  • POSTED BY m0se on | March 11, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    If report writing is part of the Austrian cricket team training, then Cowan will play 200 tests.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    We got to note that Michael Clarke is part of this decision. He has clearly said this is not an one off incident. He and coach reached a breaking point. Coach Arthur's directive is not about an essay or a fancy presentation. It's about deep reflection: something that was definitely needed after not one but two harsh defeats. Eleven other players have done that. Only these four didn't do and they are facing the consequences. This incident shows how much Australia cares about Cricket and discipline. At 2-0 it was a brave decision from Clarke.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    If Clarke had wanted to stop this misguided exercise by the coach he could have stepped in, so he must share the blame for the chaotic situation. Andy Flower and co. must be rubbing their hands together with huge smirks on their faces. One reflection: why has Arthur given the Press such detailed information about what went on? Would it not be better for ALL test teams if everybody said less and tweeted less. They all seem very adept at shooting themselves in their trainers.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    oh oh dear... what a very sad day in Australian cricket. Yes, I totally agree with the comments mad by the former players above. This kind of heavy handed tactics (due to the nature of what the 4 players didn't do) is a perfect recipe for terrible team morale and what I imagine will be a sub-standard performance next test at least. Surely selections and player attitude should be measured on results and their work ethic in the nets. Players also help each other in these situations with encouragement and advice. Why does this have to written on a piece of paper. It almost seems deliberately done to catch a few out. I think this speaks volumes of Arthur and why he must GO. The English must be gobsmacked with delight!

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | March 11, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Mark Waugh: "but they're grown men, it's not school boy stuff." Are you sure Mr Waugh? By the looks of things Australia could do with their under-6's over in India at the moment, they'd do a better job than the current lot.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    Probably Mickey should have had Group Discussion with the team and consolidate the work areas and circulate the Minutes of the Meeting to all the players ;) hehehe corporate mind

  • POSTED BY Dirk_L on | March 11, 2013, 14:14 GMT

    Well, at least we now know what kept SA down for so long despite having Kallis, Steyn etc: Mickey Arthur. How low can he make Australia drop down? After the 4-0 whitewash that seems imminent, they'll be #4.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Aus is definitely going the WI way...over-reliance on a single player, constant changes in the line up and now revolt among players....never thought that it would hit such a low

  • POSTED BY Naikan on | March 11, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    Agree with most of the reactions. Like Damien Martyn said, too many wrong people get the job, due to fancy presentations - exactly what had happened when Greg Chappell was selected the Indian coach. It was not that Chappell had the wrong ideas, he did not have the right approach; which is what appears to be the case here also. Not everyone wants to communicate in an atmosphere of defeat. Those who did not submit ideas may even be suffering from depression and probably needed counselling rather than punishment.

  • POSTED BY Harlequin. on | March 11, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    Dropped because they didn't write an essay on what they bring to the team. Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that what the selectors are supposed to be working out for themselves?!?!

  • POSTED BY mk49_van on | March 11, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    To see such utter and complete chaos in the Aussie ranks - my cup of Schadenfreude overflows. This too shall pass - but I hope it is long, slow and painful.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    How could players do a coach's job??? Players are supposed to be good at field work not home work.

  • POSTED BY shantiratnamaj on | March 11, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    i would have preffered if the 4 boys asked for 3 points from Arthur by Tuesday to b left in their rooms! they play and coach sees what went wrong - so isn't it coach job to speak to players individually and to the team on shortcomings? have an open dialogue instead of doing individual homework!

  • POSTED BY 30-30-150 on | March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    Thinking of what Clarke wrote in his 'essay' of "how to improve performance". Score all the team runs myself? Pick another 6/9 and take all the catches too? LOL. Australian team has become a one-man army now. They do not deserve to play alongside a player of Clarke's calibre.

  • POSTED BY WizardofOz_82 on | March 11, 2013, 13:27 GMT

    The management out to try multiple choice questions instead of essays the next time round!!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    well its terrible at this moment sending some players mentioning the reasons (may be anything) is not good when a team needs a game in their belt i hope the aussie team management will get them back (if watson is willing him too)

  • POSTED BY IAJpak on | March 11, 2013, 13:24 GMT

    8 out of 10 players above are Australians Ex players. I am sure they know how changes in Attetude can be and is brought in the Aus dressing room. I however Agree with Dean Jones comment "Its deeper that what is being said" . And if it is, it should come out by no other then Arther himself. As Pakistan cricket fan we enjoyed Aus loosing besause of the way they fight and make efforts to come back but come on Clark we want the best team in cricket to handle the situation more professionally and you are the man in control. Make some bold decesion.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    You wanna tell me that the coach/leadership gave this assignment to the players and decided beforehand to sack them for noncompliance, or did the sacking come as an afterthought..., a sort of mental disintegration, if you will. If it's the latter,...ummm...what does that say about how decisions are made. If it's the former, hold them responsible for premeditated murder!!!!!! Bunch a jokers!

  • POSTED BY IndCricFan2013 on | March 11, 2013, 12:52 GMT

    OMG! What an Idiot? Why do not you have a meeting with individual players and you as a coach compile everything and pass it on to every one. WoW, you guys can't even talk? Why should the players write an essay? It is coach responsibility to remind them and have a meeting, if they do not want to write it down.

  • POSTED BY Sunil_Batra on | March 11, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    I don't want to sound negative, but this is all very dissapointing on the part of Arthur and also Clarke. My son said to me that when i'm older I want to play cricket for Australia, so .......I can write me some good essays. Seriously this decision doesn't make sense. I've been watching cricket for over 40 years. this season is the first time i've felt like giving up on the Australian cricket team i want to see the best 11 players playing. the rotation policy is a joke,then they want the fans to pay heaps of money to watch the second 11 players play, guys like Khawaja can't get a single game with some excuse found, Watson goes home when we need him most because he hasn't done an essay. Wihtout Pattinson we won't get 20 wickets. Legends such as Chappell, Border, Waugh, Lehman have all spoken against it and righly so.

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | March 11, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    It's certainly a very unusual criteria for player selection. Probably overdoing the discipline at expense of the overall team, which is no good thing. Perhaps a fine or being grounded would have been more appropriate.

    as for possible answers for the quiz, how about "play better cricket" x3? That's what it comes down to, not daft overreactions like this.

  • POSTED BY DustyBin on | March 11, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    Even if some punishment is merited-& surely that's only true if this is the final straw in a catalogue of indiscipline-why wash dirty linen in such a public & divisive way? why not secretly fine them half their tour fees or similar? Because surely Aus.'s best team must have Pattinson & Watson in it? I agree with Venkatb that Arthur went public to let him say "It's not me it's that indiscplined team that caused all our defeats."Unless he's a Saffer agent implanted in CA to do maximum damage.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    Just a couple of quick questions for General Mickey Arthur: 1.What bright ideas did the rest of the players come up with?I am sure the whole world would be dying to know.The four court martialed men most of all. and 2.Did you get a call from one of the Banana Republics yet?They would love to have someone like you take over.

  • POSTED BY fazald on | March 11, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    It is very obvious here that coach Mickey Arthur is trying to pass the buck for his failures and blunders on these players who have been dropped from the team. The players don't have to tell the coach what has to be done to improve their performance and it is the duty of the coach to identify those shortcomings. Apparently the coach seems to be clueless which doesn't augur very well for the future of aussie cricket. This is a common ploy used by some bosses who try to get ideas from their employees when they cannot fulfil their tasks deligently. I wonder what action Mickey Arthur would have taken if the whole team had not responded to his directive. I am sure it would have been a first in world cricket where the match would be forfeited to the opposition without the toss being made and not a ball being bowled on disciplinary grounds.. No doubt aussie cricket is in disarray at the moment and if we don't cleanup our act very soon we will be the laughing stock of world cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 12:36 GMT

    People always like to play to forget about home work, books, etc, etc. But here it is, you have to DO the homework to PLAY... Awesome... School teachers please don't listen to the Arthur.

  • POSTED BY brusselslion on | March 11, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    This is not a moment too soon! Standards have slipped. For examples, look at the appalling grammar used by former players Lehmann and Martyn respectively: "Adults we are, not schoolboys!" .. Need these boys playing" "To(!!!) many wrong people ...". How can you win Test matches if you are not grammatically correct when sledging? Any current member of the squad, who does not measure up should be sent to bed without his hot milk!! As Lehmann would, no doubt, say; Hard but fair, I think

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    You cant treat Player like this Specially in the tough situation, while team going badly its the time to seat together where is our Fault not that you sacked Player, Now OZ facing so many Problems bring back the player and get out of your Decision. It will be More helpful. The Coach is not judge to sack player he only appointed player for Guiding in his playing ability. Its Not school you will Give hard Punishment on this Silly Mistake its not School. Arthur Throw your Ego and Bring them into the side for 3rd Test

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 12:24 GMT

    this has destroyed my faith in the management of the team to allow such stupid decisions that effect the team, the cricketers,and their families ,over such a stupid criteria that could have been done differently.

  • POSTED BY Mary_786 on | March 11, 2013, 12:24 GMT

    Arthur asked for the report in the wrong way, He should have asked Pattinson to send it in a sledge, Watson to send it as part of a campaign to take a team-mates batting spot, Khawja as part of his ability to sell why he should get a test as he can never get one and Johnson just to grunt. does this mean we are stuck with Hughes, Starc and No show (sorry Big-Show) for this test? Seriouly though I feel bad for Khawaja who deserves a go after a hard slog under Lehman. Watson has left the tour and it won't be easy to just slot him back in for the fourth test. I am surprised that Clarke has let this happen, i would have expected him to handle this better.

  • POSTED BY Brenton1 on | March 11, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Who is Shane Warner? A hard hitting opening batsman/ world class leg spinner. The greatest player of all time?

  • POSTED BY RD_TEST_CRIC_FOREVER on | March 11, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    This is Something not acceptable ........ at such higher level........ the fact is i m still wondering wat will johnson and khwaja has to write ...... i mean how to give bottles quickly on the ground ??? and i read that watto and pattinson told that they will discuss on sunday........ then how much that would have mattered with few hours........ there is more than wat meets the eyes.......

  • POSTED BY acnc on | March 11, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    Well.. you have to give credit to Arthur for not rapping their knuckles with a ruler before dropping them!

  • POSTED BY thinktank1 on | March 11, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    I think there must be some serious problems in CA.. and Arthur has done a good job by removing weak links. Team must play united.

  • POSTED BY jrg_from_oz on | March 11, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    Memo Cricket Australia: Your coach has decided to punish me, a loyal supporter of Australian cricket of more than 50 years' standing, by ensuring I won't see the best possible Australian team take the field for the 3rd test. I consider this an act of sabotage, and expect you to take the appropriate action.

  • POSTED BY Captain_Crick on | March 11, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    This is not good for Aussie cricket. The punishment seems harsh, wierd and could have been handled better internally within the team. Should'nt it be the coach/manager/captain who should be presenting these strategic ideas to the team and have a brainstorming session to be in synch? Homework for the individual players sounds silly. For God's sake, this is test cricket played by Professional cricketers! There could be more to this than just the 'homework'. Only time will tell.

  • POSTED BY Venkatb on | March 11, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    Mickey is playing it smart and saving his own hide - if he were to return home with a 0-4 result, he would be axed - by "disciplining" 4 players, he can always blame players and their lack of discipline! It is farcical that 2 of these players never played a match in India, so how can they list 3 things that they would do differently! And Pattinson need not do anything differently, he was bowling very well. Watson was the question mark but he had his own personal distractions. Mickey should realize that the team played on 2 dust bowls - on any other surface, this Aussie team would be potent - Mickey seems to be on a egoistical trip and Aussie cricket will suffer for this!

  • POSTED BY Okakaboka on | March 11, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    @RandyOz. I think you are right. It is the death of Aussie cricket. You were right about Arthur's appointment. Think I'll support, um, New Zealand. Well, at least until someone like Darren Lehman, Steve Waugh, Tony Dodemaide or even Brad Hodge ('cause he understands mega stuff ups) is appointed as team coach/manager.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | March 11, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    This is pathetic. I rather remove players who do not perform. Not essay writing. I feel like coach do not know what to do , he just trying to find fault and they found 4 easy targets. Some people are good at something and some are not. Leaving out pattinson is pretty bad idea to me. Kawaja not gona play anyway. Watson and Clarke do not like each other. So its more of clarke forcing arthur to take drastic action to cover up 2-0 loss. Pretty bad state aussie cricket

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | March 11, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    Strong discipline for failing to meet a team requirement is not uncommon in sport. Players in footy have been suspended by their clubs for missing training.

    If they are going to behave like schoolboys - being late or forgetting - then why not give them what might seem schoolboy punishment?

    I'm glad they got suspended. They get paid big bucks, so should be doing all that is expected and asked of them.

    This was obviously a very important request and not overly onerous. These four didn't seem to take it serious enough.

    Maybe that is the core problem in the Aussie camp at the moment - taking things seriously. They certainly didn't take seriously the request by Clarke to value their wickets and play patiently in the second inning at Hyderabad.

  • POSTED BY reality_check on | March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    Ok let's see, you can bowl fast, can swing it both ways, get the bounce and take wickets at will BUT can you write an essay and explain this properly !!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    Did the players know in advance that not doing this assignment would result in their being dropped? Or was the first they knew of its importance was when they were told they were being dropped?

  • POSTED BY Robin001 on | March 11, 2013, 11:59 GMT

    I smell something fishy here. It feels like the team management does not want to play Khawaja due to some previous discipline issue. See what Arthur has to say about other three... "I wish it wasn't the vice-captain, I wish it wasn't Shane Watson and Mitchell Johnson, they are leaders within the team and are very professional"...." I've not ever been in a position to doubt Shane Watson the person or Shane Watson the cricketer. Usman Khawaja is different". I think they wanted to punish Khawaja and not let him play the third test but they could not do so as public opinion was strongly with him. This gave them an easy way out but they had to punish others as well who had not done the homework....Watto, Pattinson and Johnson just got dragged into it....Only time will tell if i am right or wrong !!!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    I was always good at doing Home work, can I play for Australia :P

  • POSTED BY hycIass on | March 11, 2013, 11:55 GMT

    Takes 'Death by PowerPoint' to a whole new level. A presentation that outlined what they would bring to the team? How about a bat, a ball and a box. Sheesh! Too much touchy-feely management that will have players worrying more about finding their inner self instead of just watching the ball. Why can't Border, Lehman, S and M Waugh be running things, they talk so much more common sense. I reckon it panned out something like this: Johnson probably thought everything was fine - particularly his bowling. Pattinson refused to answer for other people's failings. Khawaja couldn't answer because he hasn't a clue what's going on in the Test team as he can never get a game as a new excuse is found to keep him out. . And Watson probably thought that a better use of his time could be spent in the nets.

  • POSTED BY elbumo on | March 11, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    I support the decision for harsh treatment. The point is these players are meant to take their line of work professionally. 3 points does not take any great academic skills but it requires you to think about your performance and that of the team and how to move forward. These sort of self reflective sessions are where people learn, not by coaches or teachers dictating to you. As far as I'm concerned, missing basic exercises like this is as bad as missing a training session. We all know these players have the talent to be successful at international level (or most anyway) but what is missing is the mental side of the game (which is what separates the good from the great). I'm not saying that the decision to drop the players is the correct one, but the coach and captain are as informed as anyone to make this decision, which is intended to move the team forward.

  • POSTED BY SRK666 on | March 11, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    People defending Arthur/Clarke are missing the point. Most people aren't complaining about requiring the players to reflect on tactics/technique and how they can improve.

    The issue is how Arthur/Clarke dealt with the players when they didn't meet the deadline. Whatever happened, I think it looks bad for Arthur. If Arthur didn't phone the 4 guys who didn't complete the presentation, and ask them what was going on, it looks like he is just trying to look hard and tough, but not really helping the players. (He could have prodded them a little bit "what have you thought about recently" etc.) On the other hand, if Arthur did contact the 4 players, and they refused to comply with the instructions, then this suggests that Arthur has lost the confidence of a significant portion of the team (it's /four/ players, so not really an isolated case with a maverick personality).

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    Sounds like an excuse by Arthur due to deeper problems within the squad. What else has been happening that we don't know about?

  • POSTED BY mvcric on | March 11, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    Even as an Indian fan, I can think of only one word for Mickey Arthur's decision - appalling.

    Even if these players had showed a pattern of indiscipline before (at least Shane Watson didn't by the coach's own admission), is this something that couldn't have been sorted out with a few sharp words in private? Hasn't the coach heard about how John Wright dealt with Virender Sehwag's perceived indiscipline in the early part of his career?

    Now, you can count on Usman Khwaja's confidence having between shattered.

  • POSTED BY JohnnyRook on | March 11, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    I want to know why Mickey Arthur is doing this loyalty test. I really doubt Arthur would have read everybody's inputs. If they were not doing their work-outs/nets or were out having fun, it made sense to make an example out of them.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    Don't get tickets for day 4 or 5 at Mohali

  • POSTED BY 9-Monkeys on | March 11, 2013, 11:42 GMT

    Discipline them yes - a monetary fine, extra (harder) training or similar. But drop them/make them unavailable for selection? No. That is an overreaction. Would like to know what Rod Marsh - the senior selector on duty now that Inverarity has returned to Australia, had to say.

  • POSTED BY Yelsirt on | March 11, 2013, 11:37 GMT

    I think Dean Jones is right, definitely something more going on. I thought Watson coming out a few weeks back saying he wanted to open was dreadful for team spirit. Even if that is what he wanted & thought I don't think going to the press was the right thing to do. Toxic...

  • POSTED BY vivek_khyati on | March 11, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    though this step looks very childish and stupid, if u have set your own standards of discipline, then u will have to live by it, come whatever may. still the aussie team is strong and should not be underestimated. warner, cowan, hughes, clarke, smith, haddin, hengriques, maxwell, starc, siddle, doherty. what way is this lineup weak? they r still strong.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Apparently executive/management stupidity and incompetence isn't just the purview of NZ Cricket. Welcome to the club, Australia! As a Kiwi looking on - I'm loving it!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Shall we assume this is Arthur's doing, planning for the bloody future of test cricket and not the present, using this as a cover-up? -.-

  • POSTED BY AD1072 on | March 11, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Agree with the comments of all the former aussie cricketing greats. Their sheer diapproval of this decision speaks volumes. Indian fans are disappointed too. Game is above all. Now , this just kills the thrill of beating a top team. Now, victory means nothing to us. SACK Arthur & Pup.

  • POSTED BY rohanbala on | March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT

    Mickey Arthur has wielded the Excalibur to axe Watson, Johnson, Pattinson and Khawaja.

  • POSTED BY MainCulprit on | March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT

    Dont be fooled guyz... Mickey is no Mouse. Played the best team and the result = 2-0. when it end with 4-0, well it was a half Aussie team... see...This guy is actually smart... and you didnt see it... ;)

  • POSTED BY shiv_mishra on | March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT

    I will give you 3 points Mr. Arthur: 1. You are going to play on most seam friendly surface in India which has traditionaly given more wickets to seamers. 2. Select Pattinson and johnson in team. 3. Give them new ball and ask to bowl as fast as they can for a 10 over spell. (3 over spell and our batsmen will be loughing afterwards.)

    I hope i did my homework to be able to watch the match.

  • POSTED BY Big_Maxy_Walker on | March 11, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    Yep I agree @invisiblePJs, mickey Arthur=Robbie deans. this will hopefully be the end of picking coaches of major aussie teams from other countries. they just don't get it. And seemingly they are happy to go along with mediocrity and poor results instead of aiming for the top. I think a lot of the management try and interfere with the team just to justify their roles and big pay packets.

  • POSTED BY Archerthom on | March 11, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    I am no lover of coaches, but in this case I think they got it right.

    Firstly, the team performed abhorrently, and looked unworthy of wearing their baggy greens. Coming up with ideas on how to take it forward is simple maturity and taking responsibility.

    Secondly, it shows the total lack of discipline in young Australian athletes, which I observed first-hand in the country a couple of years ago. If the captain or the coach tells you to do something, you sit down and do it.

    Finally, what an over-reaction from the old pros above! This wasn't a hard task, they had most of a week to prepare a few bullet points on something they'd just spent five - sorry, three and a half - days doing. A thinking cricketer would have had those points already in their mind under "Ok, here's what we need to do to get better".

    The behaviour of elements of this team suggests they don't care about the legacy of the great names who keep making every excuse for them. Pathetic.

  • POSTED BY guptahitesh4u on | March 11, 2013, 11:21 GMT

    I am really eager to see the homework done by hughes, doherthy, smith, maxwell and lyon...Mickey should publish details of points suggested by these players.

  • POSTED BY guptahitesh4u on | March 11, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    RIP Australian Cricket!!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:18 GMT

    Amazing quotes!! Seriously, what a disastrous decision by the coach & captain!

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    Mickey Arthur seems to be taking the "Mickey" out of Aussie Cricket. Aussie Captain in agreement of this decision!!!.....Oh Yea, I almost forgot he's just a pup....Stop this nonsense guys and grow up. You are here to play cricket as professionals. So please just concentrate on playing cricket instead of admonishing professional cricketers like school kids who didn't finish their homework. If the interest of Aussie Cricket is the foremost thing to be kept in mind, please get rid of these characters running Aussie Cricket. We need characters on the field not off of it.

  • POSTED BY Edwards_Anderson on | March 11, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    Lehman, Waugh and Border are on the mar. I can't really grasp the significance of what the 4 Aussies haven't done. If the coach doesn't know what the players bring to the team, he shouldn't be coach. It's the sort of thing a stranger newly appointed as coach to a minor suburban club might do when he comes in cold, but I can't imagine anyone at the highest level pulling a stunt like this. I would expect players to have their skills honed towards performance on the field rather than Power Point presentations off it. Khawaja will need to see a psychiatrist as he can never get a game.The whole episode reeks of a loss in confidence in the coach. It's time for someone practical and experienced at International cricket to take over the reins - Darren Lehmann, anyone

  • POSTED BY whoster on | March 11, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    What a ridiculous over-reaction. Sounds very much like the Aussie management is attempting to show how 'ruthless' they can be. It's not as if these guys went out partying until 4am the day before a Test. How this 'lack of discipline' couldn't be sorted out in private with a few sharp words, I don't think anyone knows. The last thing the Aussies need is to create even more problems for themselves, and what they've done is humiliate four players publicly, whilst further weakening a team that's full of inexperience. We already know how incompetent the Aussie management / selectors are - but this takes the biscuit!

  • POSTED BY mcj.cricinfo on | March 11, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    This raises serious questions as to the credibility of Mickey Arthur as Australian coach. A world class coach would not let a situation such as this eventuate. Yes, players have responsibilities, however dropping players for a minor misdemeanor is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. I thought things were going rotten with the selection of Doherty and Maxwell in the 2nd test. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. Mickey Arthur has failed here, and is punishing these players and Australian cricket as a whole for his lack of man management skills. Won't surprise me if he loses his job, doubt he'll be missed.

  • POSTED BY atpoint on | March 11, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    Asolutely agree with Alan Border, Mark Waugh, Darren Lehmann and Dean Jones, who might have just a little experience and knowledge to bring to the table. The question is - how will CA respond. This unprecedented and over-the-top management action will have long term repercussions for Aussie cricket - and not good ones!

  • POSTED BY jettison17 on | March 11, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    Its just plain stupid. Is this a school boys cricket team who are supposed to write essays. About time Arthur the coach with a big ego is made to resign. He has lost control of the team anyway.

  • POSTED BY InvisiblePJs on | March 11, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    Mickey Arthur is having the same effect on Australian Cricket as Robbie Deans has had on the Wallabies - nothing but disaster! Maybe it is part of a worldwide conspiracy to destroy Australia's reputation as a fine sporting nation? Even the decision to send Haddin is bemusing - granted he has had good form this year, but surely Tim Paine should be given first option (Wade had to move from Tas to Vic just to get a game!), especially given it was only due to an unfortunate injury that he wasn't selected 12 months ago. He also has a proven record on the subcontinent (2 half centuries in 4 innings in 2010).

  • POSTED BY Big_Maxy_Walker on | March 11, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    the cricket training should be skill based, batting, bowling and fielding. so no basketball or football where important players are injured(wade, McGrath). I had a lot of respect for Michael clarkes positive captaincy after pontings cautious style. but the fact he isn't standing up for whats right with all these terrible selections, rotations and now axings, I have to question his sanity. a captain like allan border or ian chapel would have really given it to the ca authorities. ian chapel in particular would have told mickey to meet him in the car park.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | March 11, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    Is this the death of Australian cricket? I have lost all faith

  • POSTED BY D.V.C. on | March 11, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    How about we all boycott following the match to show the ACB this is not the kind of stupidity we want from team officials.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    india would love to compete with a full strength Ausis team than a half strenght one.. mickey Arthur's decision is FOOLISHNESS ..... REVOKE IT

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    This is far too extreme a reaction by management. However, if discipline is allowed to be a casualty at this elite level, things won't work. Put differently, while punishment for the 4 is deserved, it should have been made to fit the crime.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    Even these kind of things fromthe players Micky arthur wants it, it should have been done before the series starts, I am wondering if 7 or 8 players not given a feed back to the coach what happens to those players, still he is going to sack them, then where the players going to come, Just wondering smoke is bigger than every one think. I am a die hard fan of Aussie cricket and NSW cricket, even going for a shield game to SCG THIS WEEK END, BUT HOW AUSTRALIA GOING TO COPE OF THIS SITUATION, FORGET ABOUT WINNING

  • POSTED BY trumpoz on | March 11, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Why is everyone blaming the coach/captain/selectors for this decision? Why aren't the public annoyed at the players for not doing what was required of them regardless of how trivial you think it may be? The Australian team is playing poorly at the moment in conditions that are getting the better of them. The last thing the team needs is poor discipline to creep in. Do players with poor discipline deserve to wear the baggy green? The comment from Arthur: "Myself and Pup came to the conclusion that we have been so focused on winning cricket games that maybe some people have been cutting corners. Perhaps there have been some soft options taken" - this implies that discipline in the team is poor. A fine will not hurt those players and is akin to a slap on the wrist with a feather. This will hurt the players involved, as well as the team and fans. But those 4 players are the only ones responsible for this. Had they done what was required of them, no action would have been taken.

  • POSTED BY Skott on | March 11, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Treat them like adults? He did. He asked them to do something and expected them to do it. They should have been able to answer these questions in five minutes because they should've been thinking about how to improve already.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Yes , we employed Greg Chappell because he gave a very good presentation with beautiful slides and how he would make India world beaters. Well , we all know how much he achieved from his presentation for India ...!! god bless australians and their power points ,,,, !! lol

  • POSTED BY Tijara on | March 11, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    This is a completely wrong decision by Mr. Arthur & co. You have to honour and respect good crickters and produce results. Just enforcing descipline would not do. It is a tough job (coach) and it requires subtle approach and not harsch decisions. It is just like punishing Chris Gayle. He is too good to be punished.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    I can see Dhoni and Fletcher rubbing their hands in almost perverse glee . :D . In any case , it makes things that much more easier for India .

  • POSTED BY MJ1975 on | March 11, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    This is an excellent and necessary exercise in discipline by Clarke and Arthur. No, it's not under-6s, it's the Australian test team who are professionals and paid a lot of money. This sort of request is fairly standard in any well-run organisation and these guys had days to complete it, should have taken 15 mins. Is there a good reason why they didn't do it? Or just couldn't be bothered? It's not about the content of the exercise, it's about bringing the team together.

  • POSTED BY KingofRedLions on | March 11, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    I notice all the people quoted were players from the 1990s.

  • POSTED BY VenkatChetlur on | March 11, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Australia was on top of world cricket and then the coach changed. India was good cricket and was on top of the test rankings - then the coach changed. Admittedly, the ordinary results that followed in both cases were caused by aging teams and great cricketers calling it a day but isn't the support staff meant to help manage the transition? Both Arthur and Fletcher have failed miserably in this. Well, at least the latest from Arthur is good for a few laughs - which is a heck of a lot more than you can say about what Fletcher has contributed.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    Absolutely agree with B.C.G. Maybe the reason is funny on the face of it. But you look at it from Arthur's point of view, the last thing he would have wanted is for people to forget about what was discussed and agreed on in a team meeting esp after such a massive loss. I think they deserve it.

    I also seriously think that Watson's attitude is not quite there.. he would bowl in the second half of the IPL..hmmm..right he sure will, his IPL team will probably not play him unless he does!

  • POSTED BY wix99 on | March 11, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    There has to be more to this story than what we have been told so far. There must be some major falling out between Shane Watson and Mickey Arthur. The question is where does Michael Clarke stand in this matter? He must have had some input into the decision.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    It's an absolutely ridiculous,shambolic decision and this could've far reaching repercussion on all the Australian cricketers' morale ,especially with the Ashes series just a few months away..The English cricketers/ officials must be rubbing their hands in glee and thanking the Indian cricketers for walloping the Aussies in the 1st 2 Tests, thus,indirectly,causing all the fiasco. The Australian Cricket Board must be in a hell of a dilemma now as to whether they should overrule this nonsensical suspension of 4 cricketers,even if it's for 1 Test. Can't wait to get the reactions of Ian Chappell and Shane Warne.

  • POSTED BY V_WIN_WC on | March 11, 2013, 10:44 GMT

    Nothing wrong i asking for suggetions, but making it mandatory and punishing for non complainnce is a crime. How can we expect the sportsmen to write essays?? this is ridiculus.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    Looking at the comments from so may OZ cricket stalwarts, it does appear that Micky's (and Pup's?) decision to leave these 4 out for an important test is an "over the top" one. OZ cricket is in transition and such incidents will do no good. Has anyone considered what a demoralising effect this will have on the rest of the team?Let's hope wiser council prevails and OZ can field their best 11 for the 3rd test otherwise it will even get even tougher for OZ to compete with India....

  • POSTED BY RajeshNaik on | March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    Stupidity at its best. Unbelievable! Anyway, it is becoming easier for India.

  • POSTED BY PYC1959 on | March 11, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    There are some pretty senior and respected commentators making comment on this subject and the sooner CA listen to them the better. I think Mickey Arthurs days are numbered. CA need to take a long hard look at the problem they now have with the selectors, revisit the enquiry that was made and LISTEN to the people in the know.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    Get rid of this Mickey Arthur (and anyone else who condones this madness)

    Australia are not strong at the moment. All training should be around batting, bowling and fielding- and the greats are needed to help out big time- there's enough of them in this country without bringing in clueless outsiders. What would Keith Miller have had to say about this???

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | March 11, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Time for Arthur to go, seems he hasn't got a clue about this job. So many great Aussie coaches around, time to hire one for the top job.

  • POSTED BY baskar_guha on | March 11, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    This is all about Mickey losing control of his team ...

  • POSTED BY jwayong on | March 11, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    Mickey Arthur: Australian fans are asking questions now! what went wrong on the last 2 tests and how will you fix it! otherwise you can resign!

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | March 11, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    Australia needs to review this decision, sadly there is no 'DRS' !

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    It's refreshing to read these comments by former players who know a thing or two about this sport and team culture. It does not stop the deep feeling of embarrassment I hold as this news takes flight. I think a decisive action would be to reverse this decision. If Clarke and Arthur don't want that show them the door and get back to playing cricket. Forget a series to save, they have dented their supporters own pride, this is truly embarrassing.

  • POSTED BY Sir_Francis on | March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    Ironically, the questions the players were supposed to answer were better put the selectors, who should actually know the answers otherwise, why select them in the first place.

    If the initial reactions from the cricket fraternity AND the fans holds, Arthur is finished.

  • POSTED BY Laxmansub on | March 11, 2013, 10:27 GMT

    Absurd. This seems like an ego issue too....What can an essay do? I thought Indian administrators are the worst. Thanks to Arthur, he has proved me wrong. Does Arthur think that losing to India in India is such a shame???

  • POSTED BY B.C.G on | March 11, 2013, 10:25 GMT

    They had 6 days i.e. 24*6=144 hrs.Couldn't they even spare a minute to text an SMS.

    See it this way;after the terrible loss;the team had a serious,honest meeting & everyone promised to send in their inputs,plans,etc.Everyone including the big-show did so.It seems these 4 weren't serious abt it or just didn't care

    If the gentlemen above feel they are very good at coaching;perhaps they should offer to coach the OZ cricket team.Lets see how many will put their hands up now.Lehmann,Warne will run to coach T-20 sides where the big money awaits.This transitional team is not their cup of tea.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    The coach, Mickey Arthur, should be held responsible for this charade! He I not discharging his duty. Instead he is treating the players like school kids, asking them to write essays! He should be taking the time to conduct one-to-one or group discussions with the players to find out first hand what's on their minds and how they can work together to improve. Treat them as adults and respect their views - in this way they will open up to you ,more!

  • POSTED BY onlinegamer55 on | March 11, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    I really hope Phillip Hughes does well in the third test. I believe he can do it. I was very concerned that he would be dropped but hopefully this gives him another opportunity which he takes.

  • POSTED BY Mary_786 on | March 11, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    In 45 years of following cricket this is a first. A very first.Four Australian players are dropped for NOT submitting any homework!Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. he absurdity of it all.Perhaps they didn't submit anything because like me, they reckon this is the most ridiculous instruction they've ever been given in their cricketing career.Anyone heard of team meetings - get it off your chest here and now? Or a bonding session - pub drink &/or BBQ.Wait until Chappelli gets hold of this, that is, after he recovers from his attack of apoplexy!This is treating men as boys & this is the obvious result. Disgraceful!. Khawaja worked so hard under boof to get his long awaited chance and to not get it because of this is not acceptable. Johnson was one of our best bowlers in the summer and his chance goes as well. Watson is our second in charge, imagine this happens at work and the work team would go down.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    I feel Deano is right in suspecting a bigger problem is the cause of this.This is too serious,and it got to be coming from somewhere.Problems build up over time in most cases.Failing to submit reports is surely not the source,not unless the Aussie management has collectively lost it,in which case something ought to be done about them.The players should be asked to focus on what they do best,bat,bowl and field and play together as mates on the field,do the best they can with that.The management and support has to be there for the players,to facilitate and aid them.But if there are genuine disciplinary issues,reports writing don't count,truancy does,late night capers do,divided team always does,the players have to be given what they deserve......rest or maybe tickets home.Nothing like catching the game you were supposed to be a part of from home to make you realise of your goof up.

  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | March 11, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Mickey Arthur is spelling doom for Aus cricket. Unless CA wakes up and overrides these decisions, these players may lose whatever motivation left in them to play any more for Aus and instead opt to retire and limit themselves to playing in IPL. That is more than good enough that too for such a little period in a year- instead of slogging through the year for the country and providing scope for being treated so whimsically by a failing coach. Aus' current and future players will not have good memories of this incident and Aus public may not forgive this action which may be funny for other nations but not for Aus.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    Ok, what the hell is going on ? This has gone from bad to pitiable. The latest alleged actions have nothing to do with the cricket that should be played on the field.

  • POSTED BY Ozcricketwriter on | March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Awesome! Keep it up! More quotes please! I suspect that Mickey Arthur is in more trouble over this than the 4 who were axed.

  • POSTED BY swaroopnittur on | March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    This is the result of having people around the team who are desperate to assert their presence... Looks like Mickey Arthur seems to have taken his job a tad too seriously ... no matter what the method and strategy, its players like Johnson, Watson who turn the games in your favour... on the other hand this decision to drop them might backfire and might split the team into two halves....

  • POSTED BY Haleos on | March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Clarke and arthur have made a micky of themselves. Arthur living upto his name. Knowledge sharing happens best during brainstorming. Not by writing notes. Clarke needs a management lesson here.

  • POSTED BY ForceOfNature on | March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Childish behavior by the Australian Administrators. They are already in trouble in this series and on top of this this kind of foolish behavior will create further problems

  • POSTED BY Ramski1 on | March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    The wheels are falling off Australian cricket - embarrassing! Regardless of what seems like a very odd punishment, how will this help team morale going forward. Imagine the stick the 4 players are going to get from their opponents when they do get back into the team. Its going to be a long year for Australia in Test Cricket!

  • POSTED BY KhanMitch on | March 11, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Border and Waugh sum it up best, this is not a school trip, comparing it to Kevin Peterson episode is not the way to go as there were deeper issues there. Johnson and Khawaja haven't played a game yet and Khawaja was in line to make his return to test cricket, not the way to treat one of our better batsman. And how will the vice captain feel now when he returns for the fourth test. Arthur has alot to answer for.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Playing badly and losing in difficult overseas conditions we Indians are very familiar with. But this case of dropping players for not giving ideas in time indicates a degree of mental bankruptcy on the part of the Arthur-Clarke combine.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Playing badly and losing in difficult overseas conditions we Indians are very familiar with. But this case of dropping players for not giving ideas in time indicates a degree of mental bankruptcy on the part of the Arthur-Clarke combine.

  • POSTED BY KhanMitch on | March 11, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Border and Waugh sum it up best, this is not a school trip, comparing it to Kevin Peterson episode is not the way to go as there were deeper issues there. Johnson and Khawaja haven't played a game yet and Khawaja was in line to make his return to test cricket, not the way to treat one of our better batsman. And how will the vice captain feel now when he returns for the fourth test. Arthur has alot to answer for.

  • POSTED BY Ramski1 on | March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    The wheels are falling off Australian cricket - embarrassing! Regardless of what seems like a very odd punishment, how will this help team morale going forward. Imagine the stick the 4 players are going to get from their opponents when they do get back into the team. Its going to be a long year for Australia in Test Cricket!

  • POSTED BY ForceOfNature on | March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Childish behavior by the Australian Administrators. They are already in trouble in this series and on top of this this kind of foolish behavior will create further problems

  • POSTED BY Haleos on | March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    Clarke and arthur have made a micky of themselves. Arthur living upto his name. Knowledge sharing happens best during brainstorming. Not by writing notes. Clarke needs a management lesson here.

  • POSTED BY swaroopnittur on | March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    This is the result of having people around the team who are desperate to assert their presence... Looks like Mickey Arthur seems to have taken his job a tad too seriously ... no matter what the method and strategy, its players like Johnson, Watson who turn the games in your favour... on the other hand this decision to drop them might backfire and might split the team into two halves....

  • POSTED BY Ozcricketwriter on | March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Awesome! Keep it up! More quotes please! I suspect that Mickey Arthur is in more trouble over this than the 4 who were axed.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    Ok, what the hell is going on ? This has gone from bad to pitiable. The latest alleged actions have nothing to do with the cricket that should be played on the field.

  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | March 11, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Mickey Arthur is spelling doom for Aus cricket. Unless CA wakes up and overrides these decisions, these players may lose whatever motivation left in them to play any more for Aus and instead opt to retire and limit themselves to playing in IPL. That is more than good enough that too for such a little period in a year- instead of slogging through the year for the country and providing scope for being treated so whimsically by a failing coach. Aus' current and future players will not have good memories of this incident and Aus public may not forgive this action which may be funny for other nations but not for Aus.

  • POSTED BY on | March 11, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    I feel Deano is right in suspecting a bigger problem is the cause of this.This is too serious,and it got to be coming from somewhere.Problems build up over time in most cases.Failing to submit reports is surely not the source,not unless the Aussie management has collectively lost it,in which case something ought to be done about them.The players should be asked to focus on what they do best,bat,bowl and field and play together as mates on the field,do the best they can with that.The management and support has to be there for the players,to facilitate and aid them.But if there are genuine disciplinary issues,reports writing don't count,truancy does,late night capers do,divided team always does,the players have to be given what they deserve......rest or maybe tickets home.Nothing like catching the game you were supposed to be a part of from home to make you realise of your goof up.