Pakistan v England 2011-12 February 26, 2012

'We've learned lessons' - Flower

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Andy Flower is confident that the lessons England have learned from their tour of the UAE will stand them in good stead when they arrive in Sri Lanka next month for two Test matches.

England lost the Test series against Pakistan 3-0 in the UAE, with the visiting batsmen unable to counter the hosts' spin attack. But Flower, the team director, has been encouraged by the improvement his team has shown over the course of the tour and feels they will have benefited from the learning experience. England won the ODI series 4-0 and, having lost the opening Twenty20, levelled the series with victory on Saturday. Both squads have now moved on to Abu Dhabi where they will contest the final game of the tour - the deciding T20 - on Monday. The two-Test tour of Sri Lanka follows from March 10.

While Flower accepted that England's batsmen had struggled throughout the Test series, he felt their improved performances since the start of the limited-overs section of the tour augured well for the future.

Kevin Pietersen, for example, having averaged just 11.16 in the three Tests, bounced back with successive centuries in the ODIs and finished that series with an average of 93.66. Alastair Cook's figures for the same two series - 26.50 and 80.75 - tell a similar story. Jonny Bairstow, having come into the T20 side, also impressed with a unbeaten match-defining innings of 60 to win the second match.

"It's been a really fascinating tour," Flower said. "It's been surprising that we lost the Test series 3-0 and then won the ODI series 4-0. It's exactly the opposite of what most people would have expected.

"We've learned some good lessons from the Test experience. You can see some of the learning coming out in some of the batsmen at the moment - which is great to see - it would be very disappointing to go through those tough experiences and not come out the other side as better players, but I think some of them are coming out the other side as better players.

"A good example would be Kevin Pietersen who has turned round his form. He has shown us a different method in the one-dayers. He has worked very hard re-jigging his method and it's nice to see that it's working for him. It's nice to see him playing as confidently as he is playing at the moment; that's great to see.

"Alastair Cook also had a tough Test series - like most of our batsmen - but played superbly in the one-day series to show the requisite skills you need in these conditions.

"A young guy like Jonny Bairstow has shown that he has learned from the first T20 game and showed a slightly different method against Umar Gul and against the spin. Those are good signs for me as a coach to see. The guys are learning and embedding those lessons: that's a very healthy thing for us in the future.

"Yes, the Test series against Sri Lanka is going to come round fairly quickly and that is a good thing. We've only got 10 days at home. We will have the challenges of turning pitches again, but that is good: I want to see that. I want to see if our Test batsmen have learned to play the spin better. I think we should see some good things out there from our team.

The batsmen may have struggled in the Test series, but Flower was delighted with the performance of England's bowlers. He also suggested that, while Steven Finn's ambitions to break into the Test team had been frustrated of late, it was only a matter of time before he becomes an established Test cricketer. Finn was not called upon for the three Tests against Pakistan, but claimed 13 wickets at a cost of just 10.3- apiece to help England win the ODI series.

"The bowlers have been consistently good," Flower said. "The quick bowlers, led by James Anderson and Stuart Broad in the Test series and by Monty Panesar and Graeme Swann in the spin department, have been outstanding. And that's carried on into the one-dayers. It's been really nice to see Steven Finn perform as he has done. He's a big strong man now and he's quite a mature young man and he's a genuine wicket taker. He's been performing that role for us in the limited-overs stuff and because of it he'll be pushing hard for Test selection as well.

"There's no doubt he will play Test cricket and quite a lot of it I'd think. When and in which circumstances - and how his competition for a Test place play - will determine how quickly that happens. But he's doing all the right things and he's helping England win games of cricket."

Flower also took encouragement from the way that England bounced back from defeat in the first T20, though he did warn that Monday's game represented his side's last opportunity to play T20 cricket in Asian conditions ahead of September's World T20 in Sri Lanka where England will defend their title.

"We didn't do anything hugely differently in the second T20 game from the first," Flower said. "In that first game we put ourselves in a very strong position to win. We had 35 to get off the last five overs with seven wickets in hand. There was some really good death bowling from Saeed Ajmal and Umar Gul that ensured that we didn't. That was a great experience for our young players especially. In the game that we won, I thought Jonny Bairstow's innings was outstanding.

"The experience that those guys will have gained in a pressure situation against very good opposition in these conditions will be absolutely vital to their growth and to our growth as a side. We have to have, at this stage, an eye on the World T20, which is in Sri Lanka in six or seven months time and therefore how we play against these spin bowlers in these conditions - and how quickly we learn - is vital to our chances in Sri Lanka.

"There are not many T20 games to go and most of those are in England, so it will be a different type of cricket and a different type of T20 cricket. So we have to make the most use of this next one and then we move on to different forms of the game at the start of the summer. But this experience out here has been great for us."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY anuradha_d on | February 28, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    Hmmm....clutching on to straws is one thouhgt I get reading Flower.......fooling himself is another.....if ODIs was to denote progress and lesson learnt towards test matches, Dhoni would be the best test matchbatsman in the world :). In my opinion these limited over games prove NOTHING about Eng's improvment in test matches.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | February 28, 2012, 2:51 GMT

    Morgan must be running on thin ice now surely ?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    I have always liked Flower but wasn't he coming out with the "We've learned lessons" after the very 1st test on the series and saying the same after the 2nd test and the 3rd test too. Beating a team that blows hot and cold in ODIs and T20s (if we do win tomorrow) does not mean that we have learned lessons. It's like saying India learned lessons after beating us in the OD series in India before playing tests in Aus. A couple of lessons Mr Flower - persevering with batsmen who are totally shot of form test after test might not always be the best solution , especially when the whole team's batting is woeful so you're not being carried through the storm. 2 - There is nothing in the rule book to say you can't bring a bowler in for a batsman. Esp when your bowler is performing like Finn and your batsman is performing like Morgan or Bell.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    @class_shows on (February 26 2012, 15:33 PM GMT) - Ironic name because you're not showing any class towards the Pak fans when they were by and large very respectful to us when they whitewashed us. Regardless of what you and I think about what would happen if Pakistan played us in England right now I don't feel it is respectful to try and snipe at a team that just outplayed us fair and square. When we beat India we had all these trash comms about what would happen to England in India and this is just the reverse. Unnecessary.

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    man of the series misbah l haq

  • POSTED BY Lallubhai on | February 27, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    Wasim Raja , Look at the Test & ODI rankings . HA HA HA .

  • POSTED BY dscoll on | February 27, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    Jonsey2 says - "UAE pitches are NOT sub continent pitches" I wonder why no one else says this. I suppose Jonsey could be right and everyone else could be wrong, or perhaps Jonsey is just a bit dim. I wonder which one it is?

  • POSTED BY stark-truth on | February 27, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    How can Flower assert that Swann had "an outstanding Test series"? He was outbowled by both Pak spinners and by Monty. Moreover, he is reading too much into the masala limited-overs matches. In Test matches, the game is more even for both bowlers and batsmen, and the DRS has empowered the Pak spinners even more! I doubt Pietersen or for that matter, any other English batsman can dominate long probing accurate spells of Ajmal and Rehman in Test Series as the bowlers have naturally complete freedom in Tests. Flower should have rather remarked that they won't be subjected to the same tough Test against such mighty spinners in the coming months as SL and India do not have spin wizards like an Ajmal or a Rehman.

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    England has definitely learned and improved a lot as the tour went on. Bowling is absolutely fine...they have the best pace attack in the world currently; that's without a doubt. They do have a decent spin attack as well, that should perform well in coming series in the subcontinent. The only worry is their batting against spin. They might struggle in Srilanka against the likes of Herath and Mendis. But they will perform well in India since Indians have the weakest bowling attack amongst all the subcontinent sides; they dont have a world class spinner as well.

  • POSTED BY aa61761 on | February 27, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    In Test maches, wickets are lively and supportive of bowling and there are no restrictions on number of overs by a bowler and hence it is a true struggle between bat and ball in Test maches. There is no doubt in my mind that if England and Pakistan play another 5 Tests in UAE, the result will be the same as before. ODI's are always played on dead batting wickets which neutralizes the quality of bowlers, therefore, any team with better bating will win. India is an example - India is losing because their batting is not putting up huge totals. And T20 is just a joke.

  • POSTED BY anuradha_d on | February 28, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    Hmmm....clutching on to straws is one thouhgt I get reading Flower.......fooling himself is another.....if ODIs was to denote progress and lesson learnt towards test matches, Dhoni would be the best test matchbatsman in the world :). In my opinion these limited over games prove NOTHING about Eng's improvment in test matches.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | February 28, 2012, 2:51 GMT

    Morgan must be running on thin ice now surely ?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    I have always liked Flower but wasn't he coming out with the "We've learned lessons" after the very 1st test on the series and saying the same after the 2nd test and the 3rd test too. Beating a team that blows hot and cold in ODIs and T20s (if we do win tomorrow) does not mean that we have learned lessons. It's like saying India learned lessons after beating us in the OD series in India before playing tests in Aus. A couple of lessons Mr Flower - persevering with batsmen who are totally shot of form test after test might not always be the best solution , especially when the whole team's batting is woeful so you're not being carried through the storm. 2 - There is nothing in the rule book to say you can't bring a bowler in for a batsman. Esp when your bowler is performing like Finn and your batsman is performing like Morgan or Bell.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    @class_shows on (February 26 2012, 15:33 PM GMT) - Ironic name because you're not showing any class towards the Pak fans when they were by and large very respectful to us when they whitewashed us. Regardless of what you and I think about what would happen if Pakistan played us in England right now I don't feel it is respectful to try and snipe at a team that just outplayed us fair and square. When we beat India we had all these trash comms about what would happen to England in India and this is just the reverse. Unnecessary.

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    man of the series misbah l haq

  • POSTED BY Lallubhai on | February 27, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    Wasim Raja , Look at the Test & ODI rankings . HA HA HA .

  • POSTED BY dscoll on | February 27, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    Jonsey2 says - "UAE pitches are NOT sub continent pitches" I wonder why no one else says this. I suppose Jonsey could be right and everyone else could be wrong, or perhaps Jonsey is just a bit dim. I wonder which one it is?

  • POSTED BY stark-truth on | February 27, 2012, 14:58 GMT

    How can Flower assert that Swann had "an outstanding Test series"? He was outbowled by both Pak spinners and by Monty. Moreover, he is reading too much into the masala limited-overs matches. In Test matches, the game is more even for both bowlers and batsmen, and the DRS has empowered the Pak spinners even more! I doubt Pietersen or for that matter, any other English batsman can dominate long probing accurate spells of Ajmal and Rehman in Test Series as the bowlers have naturally complete freedom in Tests. Flower should have rather remarked that they won't be subjected to the same tough Test against such mighty spinners in the coming months as SL and India do not have spin wizards like an Ajmal or a Rehman.

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    England has definitely learned and improved a lot as the tour went on. Bowling is absolutely fine...they have the best pace attack in the world currently; that's without a doubt. They do have a decent spin attack as well, that should perform well in coming series in the subcontinent. The only worry is their batting against spin. They might struggle in Srilanka against the likes of Herath and Mendis. But they will perform well in India since Indians have the weakest bowling attack amongst all the subcontinent sides; they dont have a world class spinner as well.

  • POSTED BY aa61761 on | February 27, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    In Test maches, wickets are lively and supportive of bowling and there are no restrictions on number of overs by a bowler and hence it is a true struggle between bat and ball in Test maches. There is no doubt in my mind that if England and Pakistan play another 5 Tests in UAE, the result will be the same as before. ODI's are always played on dead batting wickets which neutralizes the quality of bowlers, therefore, any team with better bating will win. India is an example - India is losing because their batting is not putting up huge totals. And T20 is just a joke.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | February 27, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    Jonesy - shame for Sri Lanka that there's no one day cricket on the tour then!

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    Let's not get carried away. England have done well to bounce back after the test loss. Nothing more nothing less. It proves that at this moment the England ODI side is much better as compared to their Pakistani counterparts. However, Pakistan has proven that they are a much better test side than England. I don't buy the argument of England beating Pakistan in test format just because they're now suddenly in a winning mode. After all, the same logic could/should also be applied for Pakistan. Conclusion is that England outplayed Pakistan in the ODI format and Pakistan outplayed England in the test format. Whichever side has had the winning momentum has also won the contest in the end.

    Having said that, the T20 encounter has been a more evenly balanced contest. It remains to be seen which ever side is going to be victorious in the T20 contest. Today's T20 contest should decide a winner. The entire series hangs in a balance and today's outcome should point out a clear winner.

  • POSTED BY MrBrightside92 on | February 27, 2012, 11:20 GMT

    It was heartening to see England fight after a bitterly disappointing test series. The back room staff are earning their corn in analysing and improving performance against individuals and teams. You could see the learning against Zia in the second game, yet Azam, ENgland hadn't seen before so we're guessing a little how to bowl to his weaker areas, so he had a bit of success. Glad to see a full time batting coach employed....and glad we don't have Micky Arthur (eh Randyoz?). No one will know 100% that we've learned lessons until we play SL in the test series. I cannot believe they couldn't squeeze in a couple of T20s as the World Cup is there...surely SL need the money??

  • POSTED BY Ekspurt on | February 27, 2012, 9:44 GMT

    You will see good contest today.England is good team no doubt but pakistani are superb also.The guys pointing out Pak team reocrd outside . Its much better than Other Asian Team.

    Better to compete than speak as Action Speak LOUDER than words.

    We wish a great win to Pak team today.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 9:39 GMT

    I have always liked Flower but wasn't he coming out with the "We've learned lessons" after the very 1st test on the series and saying the same after the 2nd test and the 3rd test too. Beating a team that blows hot and cold in ODIs and T20s (if we do win tomorrow) does not mean that we have learned lessons. It's like saying India learned lessons after beating us in the OD series in India before playing tests in Aus. A couple of lessons Mr Flower - persevering with batsmen who are totally shot of form test after test might not always be the best solution , especially when the whole team's batting is woeful so you're not being carried through the storm. 2 - There is nothing in the rule book to say you can't bring a bowler in for a batsman. Esp when your bowler is performing like Finn and your batsman is performing like Morgan or Bell.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | February 27, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    @class_shows on (February 26 2012, 15:33 PM GMT) - Ironic name because you're not showing any class towards the Pak fans when they were by and large very respectful to us when they whitewashed us. Regardless of what you and I think about what would happen if Pakistan played us in England right now I don't feel it is respectful to try and snipe at a team that just outplayed us fair and square. When we beat India we had all these trash comms about what would happen to England in India and this is just the reverse. Unnecessary.

  • POSTED BY khurramsch on | February 27, 2012, 8:51 GMT

    only time will tell about this. i think they will face problems in tests in srilanka as well but it depneds what team SL will select. people here talking that after spending time they got better, i dont think so , odi is diffrent game & tests different. England won last ashes very strongly but after that in odi lost 6-1 so this logic does not prove there.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | February 27, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    @jonesy2, that would be the same SL that lost the ODI series 4-1 to Pakistan in these same conditions not that long ago? Maybe you're basing your evaluation of SL on their having beaten Australia in Australia in their last two matches. SL are indeed a good ODI side and they look like they are improving again after a bit of a slump. ODI form won't help them when England tour though, because they are playing two Tests and that's it. Test form may be a bit more elusive for them. England struggled here against Pakistan in the Test matches but, if they have learned from their mistakes, they won't have the same issues against spin in SL. The fact that your comments are based on your hatred of England because they beat Australia rather than any actual analysis makes your post rather pitiful.

  • POSTED BY on | February 27, 2012, 3:19 GMT

    We cannot say that England has learnt & they would have thumped Pakistan if the tests happened after it. Playing Saeed Ajmal in ODI in the 3rd over & Playing him with the red cherry on 5th day of a Test, After being in the field for 5 long days are completely different things. Pakistan would have still won the test series even if it happened after ODI's & T20's. & for today's match, As Misbah said Its the decider. One White wash for Pak One for England, One All in T20. This one is going to decide who come up as the champions ;-)

  • POSTED BY Coastaltown on | February 27, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    @jonesy2 in all honesty you have a very good point, but unfortunately your point is undermined by the fact that if England were to play Canada at home you'd be predicting a Canadian win

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | February 27, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    Well Jonesy it's fortunate for England there are no one dayers on this tour to Sri Lanka then!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | February 26, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    England's bowlers have had a great tour. All of them have done well and Pakistan's batsmen have never dominated. The batting has been another story; all the batsmen have been inconsistent and a couple of them (Bell in the tests and Morgan throughout the tour) haven't put together a substantial innings at all. This tour would have been very different with just a couple of half-decent batting performances. England should have made the 145 to win the second test easily and after rolling Pakistan over for 99 in the third test a score of 141 on a good batting pitch was dismal. I just don't think Morgan has the technique to be a test batsmen and England would be better off recognizing that and using someone else in his place- either another batsmen or perhaps Patel, who could bat #7 and contribute some useful overs. Haha- jonesy2 informs us that Sri Lanka are a better one-day side than England. That might be relevant if England were playing any one-day games in SL. They aren't. What a clown.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | February 26, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    @ Blake Houston on (Feb 26 2012, 15:18 PM GMT) :-- You are right about having Finn in Tests. But one more important bowler viz Tim Breznan is waiting. I think in India and SL Bresnan may replace Anderson. Because Anderson has not been quite successful in India during the World Cup games. Also it makes the batting very deep.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | February 26, 2012, 22:49 GMT

    @ Daniel Powell on (Feb 26 2012, 15:23 PM GMT) :-- You have been very Diplomatic in saying that Akmal looks great. But you are right in saying that he will NOT have an avg of 45+ when he retires. I think you are inflluenced by Rameez Raja's comentary during matches that U.Akmal is a good player. I think U.Akmal is a very over-hyped player. And most of the advertisement for U.Akmal is provided by Ramesz. I think when U.Akmal retires he may have an avg below 40. Since 2/3 years Rameez is drumming about Akmal's talent but in the 3 years of his career Akmal has not justified any part of the Advertisement/marketing.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | February 26, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    @ jonesy2 on (Feb 26 2012, 16:28 PM GMT) :-- TOTALLY AGREED. In UAE England has not witnessed any rank turners. In Sri Lanka you can expect the pitches to turn from the 1st day. India will also be not too different. Secondly Misbah had even admitted that the UAE Conditions are not exactly home like. No crowd support. Even the pitches were not exactly known to them. The Pakistanis have not been brought up on these pitches. So in a way it was an even contest on a neutral venue.

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | February 26, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    @ class_shows on (Feb 26 2012, 15:33 PM GMT) :-- Now that you have witnessed how the Best English Team Till Date has performed outside their own territory, you should be in a better position to understand how bad Pakistan will be in England. However, in July/Aug 2010 Pakistan did visit England. Then the performance of the Pakistan team was very bad, but not whte washed. Test series was 3-1. Even in the ODI their performance was not too bad under Afridi. ODI series was 3-2. So I think Pakistani fans have a good reason if they are going gaga over the whitewash. However, once you admit England was bad against spin what do you expect from this team in India & SL. I am sure England will get some rank turners in India & SL.

  • POSTED BY wc1992 on | February 26, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    Mr class_shows ....if they have class they would have shown in 6 inngs in test ...that more then enough time for class to come up .....the fact you prod of putting them in AUS/ENG proves they are no difference then any good team that plays well under there own condition and back ....Pak had condition but they did not had their backyard and still 3----ZIp ... rememeber Pak is ranked like 6 ....because you guys had it your way 1. could not paly reverse swing to so all of you cried enough and first ball change at 30overs now 2 new ball and spin i am just waiting how before one of you's says spin should not part of test game ....ODI ARE meaning less right now allover the world ...look at tri angle series no one interested in what happen there ..so sunny boy 3---ZIp

  • POSTED BY donda on | February 26, 2012, 22:13 GMT

    England will be able to beat Sri Lanka. Are you kidding me. Do you guys know the temperature in Srilanka , it's going to be extremely hot and england players will be dehydrated in first day of test match. Srilanka at home is tough to beat.

    They will play test matches worse than UAE, i bet.

  • POSTED BY Malti65 on | February 26, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    Surely the miticulous Flower, Strauss, Cook & Broad all must have learnt a lot from this series and will benefit immensely from the experiences of this series. But I doubt if Misbah is learning any lessons. In the end England would have benefitted more from this series. and this experience will help them immensely against India and Sri Lanka. But i believe Misbah will start once again from where the series started. Again he will start dropping reguler wicket keeper in 50 over format and keep paying the price. This he has been doing for the last one year. He will not allow the 2nd seamer to settle. He will overrely on Gul. He will not allow Hammad Azam & Sarfraz Ahmed to settle. He will keep paying the same price over and over again and again. Just like Shane Warne said about Monty Panesar that "He has not played 26 tests but has played the same test 26 times."

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 18:16 GMT

    now sri lanka is rejuvneated !! it will be a very hard tym for england to beat sri lanka in their own conditions !! england winning odi's is gud but aint any great thing becoz out of top 8 teams any team can win on any other team on an given day and england was wayy better in odi's due to cook,finn and kp .

    similarly sl is lacking a gud spinner in tests but the captain jayawardene is too gud to handle and dilshan is no longer under radar so he is performing well and once sanga will come in to form they will be invincible and if chandimal and samaraweera and perera click they can do wonders !!

    srilanka are poor in bowling they need wicket taking fast bowlers and fernando is useless and dammika prasad is not consistent and lakmal too .atleast they shd bring in suraj randiv and mendis for herath .2 spinners becoz england are poor against spin and randiv is sooo cunning with the ball and he is a wicket taker not like herath who is economical.

    come on sl roar at home !!

  • POSTED BY saintsinister on | February 26, 2012, 17:00 GMT

    mmm.. i wouldnt really say so.. if u havent noticed, we (paki) have the worst batting side in the test playin nations atm.. i wud say worse than BD or zimbabwe.. bowling has always saved us and the occasional fluke of a decent score by one batsmen(if i can dare call them that) every 4-5 games.. with a half decent batting side we shudv won 3 out of those 4 odis n both these t20s.. This logic of "O England lost due to bad batting and OOO we got Pak out again around 150 coz of our good bowling" is kinda weird.. look at realities and for sure England will fare well in the later tours as well.. Pak on the other hand really shud do away with Misbah, Malik, Akmals and even Shafiq in ODIs and T20s..

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    Dear Mr.Flower. I respect you as a coach and for what you have achieved so far in your career. What my concern is this - Are you saying you were under prepared even after you had TWO warm ups in UAE? what a silly statement.

    Sri lanka only had a one warm up when they visited England in last summer. Still they managed to draw two test and lost one in Cardiff due to horrible weather and their exposed top order. Again - Sri lanka had only half warm up match in SA couple of months ago. Yet again, they have managed to win a 1 test.

    As a coach and former player, Please don't make this sort of statement which could put you in laughter.

    Chan - Sri lanka.

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | February 26, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    baha england are going to get thumped by sri lanka i think, make no mistake, the UAE pitches are NOT sub continent pitches and the conditions are not sub continent conditions. sri lanka are defiinetly a better one day side than england no question and i think on their day in their conditions they will clean up england

  • POSTED BY voma on | February 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    To see England beating Pakistan so convincingly in the ODI s and winning the last 20/20 , is very encouraging for the future . We just have to find more consistency , on our travels .

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    Indeed true. England have learnt from their mistakes. Can the same be said about India in Australia and England.

  • POSTED BY mukesh_LOVE.cricket on | February 26, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    if test series is to be started now , i believe england will beat them , with some difficulty ofcourse..

  • POSTED BY mukesh_LOVE.cricket on | February 26, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    pakistan fans are going gaga over testt white wash , truth is they are not that great a side.. ONLY thing that helped them was the fact that english batsmen are clueless against spin and was short of some match practice.. put them in english or sa/aus condition and we will see how this 'most dangerous side in history' performs..

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    England have learned things from Pakistani,s.... But when Pakistan think to Kick Out Misbah-ul-Haq frm Team?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    Pakistan's not the "most dangerous side in cricketing history." That would be the West Indies or Australia. Pakistan's a decent side with a cracking bowling attack, but a poor batting lineup. This will only get worse as all the old greats retire. Akmal looks decent, but I doubt he'll have an average of above 45 at the end of his career.

    England lost the tests because they spent a few months relaxing after a ridiculously intense touring schedule so they were underprepared. That said, I'd rather have a happy and well-rested England side lose 3 tests and then win the next 5 series than have all of them burn out, win these tests and lose the next 5 series. So be it.

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    A couple of changes I would make to test side would be get rid of Eoin Morgan because he is a limited overs specialist, I would replace him with Johnny Bairstow who is a class act! The second change is I would include Steve Finn becuz he is a suberb bowler and a real wicket taker. My bowling attack would be Broad, Anderson, Finn and Swann

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    yah england have to learn from us means pakistan.coz we r the most dangrous side in crickting history.wth the only one{ bowling strength}we damage the mst powerful teams of the world.coz this game iz ours

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  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    yah england have to learn from us means pakistan.coz we r the most dangrous side in crickting history.wth the only one{ bowling strength}we damage the mst powerful teams of the world.coz this game iz ours

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    A couple of changes I would make to test side would be get rid of Eoin Morgan because he is a limited overs specialist, I would replace him with Johnny Bairstow who is a class act! The second change is I would include Steve Finn becuz he is a suberb bowler and a real wicket taker. My bowling attack would be Broad, Anderson, Finn and Swann

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    Pakistan's not the "most dangerous side in cricketing history." That would be the West Indies or Australia. Pakistan's a decent side with a cracking bowling attack, but a poor batting lineup. This will only get worse as all the old greats retire. Akmal looks decent, but I doubt he'll have an average of above 45 at the end of his career.

    England lost the tests because they spent a few months relaxing after a ridiculously intense touring schedule so they were underprepared. That said, I'd rather have a happy and well-rested England side lose 3 tests and then win the next 5 series than have all of them burn out, win these tests and lose the next 5 series. So be it.

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    England have learned things from Pakistani,s.... But when Pakistan think to Kick Out Misbah-ul-Haq frm Team?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • POSTED BY mukesh_LOVE.cricket on | February 26, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    pakistan fans are going gaga over testt white wash , truth is they are not that great a side.. ONLY thing that helped them was the fact that english batsmen are clueless against spin and was short of some match practice.. put them in english or sa/aus condition and we will see how this 'most dangerous side in history' performs..

  • POSTED BY mukesh_LOVE.cricket on | February 26, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    if test series is to be started now , i believe england will beat them , with some difficulty ofcourse..

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    Indeed true. England have learnt from their mistakes. Can the same be said about India in Australia and England.

  • POSTED BY voma on | February 26, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    To see England beating Pakistan so convincingly in the ODI s and winning the last 20/20 , is very encouraging for the future . We just have to find more consistency , on our travels .

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | February 26, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    baha england are going to get thumped by sri lanka i think, make no mistake, the UAE pitches are NOT sub continent pitches and the conditions are not sub continent conditions. sri lanka are defiinetly a better one day side than england no question and i think on their day in their conditions they will clean up england

  • POSTED BY on | February 26, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    Dear Mr.Flower. I respect you as a coach and for what you have achieved so far in your career. What my concern is this - Are you saying you were under prepared even after you had TWO warm ups in UAE? what a silly statement.

    Sri lanka only had a one warm up when they visited England in last summer. Still they managed to draw two test and lost one in Cardiff due to horrible weather and their exposed top order. Again - Sri lanka had only half warm up match in SA couple of months ago. Yet again, they have managed to win a 1 test.

    As a coach and former player, Please don't make this sort of statement which could put you in laughter.

    Chan - Sri lanka.