England v Australia, 1st Investec Test, Trent Bridge, 3rd day July 13, 2013

'An appalling piece of umpiring'

ESPNcricinfo staff
Reactions to Stuart Broad's decision to stand his ground against an appeal on the third day of the first Ashes Test
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"What Stuart Broad did amounts to the same thing as [Denesh] Ramdin. He knew he had hit the ball. The ICC fined Ramdin and suspended him for 'actions that were contrary to the spirit of the game'. What Stuart Broad did is contrary to the spirit of the game. He played the ball and stayed there."
Former West Indies fast bowler Michael Holding

"Don't have a problem with Stuart Broad not walking its a decision which he will have to live with! #Ashes."
Former Australian allrounder Tom Moody

"If you start banning players who don't walk, Australia wouldn't have a team"
Former England captain, Ian Botham

So should a bowler call back the batter when he knows its a bad decision ? Of course not , I'm bored of this !
Former England captain, Andrew Flintoff

"Just saw the Broad dismissal ... sorry non-dismissal. No issue with him not walking but an appalling piece of umpiring. Hard to fathom."
Paul Marsh, Australia Cricketers' Association CEO

"You can pinch the soap from a hotel without shame but you can't rob the safe. There are many grades of grey in cricket's spirit."
Australian journalist Peter Lalor

"Once, professionalism explained walking: it was mutual respect between pros. Now, professionalism excuses not walking. Pathetic."
Australian journalist Greg Baum

"Australians have a reputation (other than Gilchrist) for not walking, not sure I've ever seen anything like that before with Broad's edge!"
Writer and broadcaster Mihir Bose

"I have no problem with batsmen not walking if there is 1% of doubt. But Broad 100% knew he was out, and cheated. Unacceptable."
Journalist and television host, Piers Morgan

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  • A.Sarkar17 on July 13, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    No doubt Dar should have seen the edge. But no one seems to give him the benefit of doubt considering that the ball deflected off the wicket keeper's gloves immediately after the edge and Dar had only one look in real time rather than the luxury of repeated slo-mo replays. Umpiring is a very difficult task and occasional errors, even howlers can creep in. Arm chair criticism should stop unless the umpire gives howler after howler in which case he should be asked to retire like Steve Bucknor.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 15, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Quick question to the Aussies here, how do they deel about Clarke not walking in the second test in 2010 when he bat padded a catch of KP?

    Ultimately he was out becasue England used a review, and for those that dont remember it came of the full face of the bat with australia staring down the barrel of an innings defeat.

  • on July 15, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    Either Broad plays or his match refree DAD stays, confict of interest. Stuart Broad is pretty much confident that his dad will ALWAYS save him as has been evident throughout his career. Had he been an asian player, he would have been banned so many times that he would not be plying anymore. Michael Holding is right, fine him or reverse Ramdins ban.

  • Dave1970 on July 15, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    I have no issue with Dar making a mistake. The issue I have is the use of DRS. The third umpire should be allowed to intervene & quickly communicate to an ump that there is an issue with his decision - hold play while it is checked, & if the field ump isn't sure about a decision he has made refer it to third umpire.Take the review ability away from players. Let the umpires umpire. And support the umpires trying to get it right rather than moan about how long it takes.

    Lastly, I have played cricket & didn't walk. Upon reflection I regret such. The spirit of the game is more valued than glory under false pretences. Broad should said, " I hit the ball ump." & let the third ump check to make sure all ok. Broad would of got more respect as player than he now has.

    I agree with Holding. Ramidin was reprimanded, so should Broad & all those that bring the game in disrepute. The game needs a standard & enforce it, to show the new generation how to play in the Spirit of the Game.

  • jrg_from_oz on July 14, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Broad made 28 in his 3rd innings.

    The margin at the end was 14.

    I await the ICC's action with interest.

  • Dark.Matter on July 14, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    This whole episode of dar making a blunder and broad not walking did reveal one thing that every good player joining commentary box to become an analyst does not guarantee that player will be a good analyst. I think Mr. Shane Warne would agree with this complex phenomena.

  • regofpicton on July 14, 2013, 1:56 GMT

    It is not the limit of two reviews that is silly. It is being silly in using the two reviews that has caused the problem. But there is something to the point that some innings are much longer than others. Tennis seems to have "challenges" farly well right. Perhaps an addition appeal to DRS could be made available at 100 overs and 150 overs. Or maybe 2 to start and another with each new ball?

    I do know that player challenges and Hawk-eye in tennis add greatly to the drama. Yes i know - some will ask if we could cope with any more drama than we already have . . .

  • on July 13, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Wonderful comments by Botham. Australians, of all persons, should not talk of walking.

  • on July 13, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    No Batsman should ever walk. Let the highly paid officials make the call. It goes a little way to even the balance. Cricket has never been a lesson on Morals and Ethics. Bowlers/Wicketkeepers can appeal for ridiculous decisions they know to be wrong and not face any sanction, yet a Batsman standing his ground , inviting the umpire to do his job is vilified .Nonsense !!

  • web_guru2003 on July 13, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    No doubt that should have been given out. Any umpire on his not-so-bad-day would have got the decision right, Dar did not because he is a human. Dar otherwise is a wonderful umpire and unlike Shane Warne's rant, Dar get the decision right +95% of time in crucial moments. Shane Warne is probably taking a go to take out frustrations from his days when Dar did not cave into his furious appealing and almost every single time Dar got it right then.

    Umpire get split second to make the decision. There might be other factors involved which made him think it was not out (such as deflection from keeper's pad). He made a mistake, MOVE ON.

    Also why do we have separate moral code for fielders, batsmen and bowlers? What Broad did was nothing different than what Ramdin did against Pakistan but Ramdin was punished but Broad ...well..

  • A.Sarkar17 on July 13, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    No doubt Dar should have seen the edge. But no one seems to give him the benefit of doubt considering that the ball deflected off the wicket keeper's gloves immediately after the edge and Dar had only one look in real time rather than the luxury of repeated slo-mo replays. Umpiring is a very difficult task and occasional errors, even howlers can creep in. Arm chair criticism should stop unless the umpire gives howler after howler in which case he should be asked to retire like Steve Bucknor.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 15, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Quick question to the Aussies here, how do they deel about Clarke not walking in the second test in 2010 when he bat padded a catch of KP?

    Ultimately he was out becasue England used a review, and for those that dont remember it came of the full face of the bat with australia staring down the barrel of an innings defeat.

  • on July 15, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    Either Broad plays or his match refree DAD stays, confict of interest. Stuart Broad is pretty much confident that his dad will ALWAYS save him as has been evident throughout his career. Had he been an asian player, he would have been banned so many times that he would not be plying anymore. Michael Holding is right, fine him or reverse Ramdins ban.

  • Dave1970 on July 15, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    I have no issue with Dar making a mistake. The issue I have is the use of DRS. The third umpire should be allowed to intervene & quickly communicate to an ump that there is an issue with his decision - hold play while it is checked, & if the field ump isn't sure about a decision he has made refer it to third umpire.Take the review ability away from players. Let the umpires umpire. And support the umpires trying to get it right rather than moan about how long it takes.

    Lastly, I have played cricket & didn't walk. Upon reflection I regret such. The spirit of the game is more valued than glory under false pretences. Broad should said, " I hit the ball ump." & let the third ump check to make sure all ok. Broad would of got more respect as player than he now has.

    I agree with Holding. Ramidin was reprimanded, so should Broad & all those that bring the game in disrepute. The game needs a standard & enforce it, to show the new generation how to play in the Spirit of the Game.

  • jrg_from_oz on July 14, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Broad made 28 in his 3rd innings.

    The margin at the end was 14.

    I await the ICC's action with interest.

  • Dark.Matter on July 14, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    This whole episode of dar making a blunder and broad not walking did reveal one thing that every good player joining commentary box to become an analyst does not guarantee that player will be a good analyst. I think Mr. Shane Warne would agree with this complex phenomena.

  • regofpicton on July 14, 2013, 1:56 GMT

    It is not the limit of two reviews that is silly. It is being silly in using the two reviews that has caused the problem. But there is something to the point that some innings are much longer than others. Tennis seems to have "challenges" farly well right. Perhaps an addition appeal to DRS could be made available at 100 overs and 150 overs. Or maybe 2 to start and another with each new ball?

    I do know that player challenges and Hawk-eye in tennis add greatly to the drama. Yes i know - some will ask if we could cope with any more drama than we already have . . .

  • on July 13, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    Wonderful comments by Botham. Australians, of all persons, should not talk of walking.

  • on July 13, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    No Batsman should ever walk. Let the highly paid officials make the call. It goes a little way to even the balance. Cricket has never been a lesson on Morals and Ethics. Bowlers/Wicketkeepers can appeal for ridiculous decisions they know to be wrong and not face any sanction, yet a Batsman standing his ground , inviting the umpire to do his job is vilified .Nonsense !!

  • web_guru2003 on July 13, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    No doubt that should have been given out. Any umpire on his not-so-bad-day would have got the decision right, Dar did not because he is a human. Dar otherwise is a wonderful umpire and unlike Shane Warne's rant, Dar get the decision right +95% of time in crucial moments. Shane Warne is probably taking a go to take out frustrations from his days when Dar did not cave into his furious appealing and almost every single time Dar got it right then.

    Umpire get split second to make the decision. There might be other factors involved which made him think it was not out (such as deflection from keeper's pad). He made a mistake, MOVE ON.

    Also why do we have separate moral code for fielders, batsmen and bowlers? What Broad did was nothing different than what Ramdin did against Pakistan but Ramdin was punished but Broad ...well..

  • AlbertPintoGussaHua on July 13, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    DRS in its present form with only 2 unsuccessful reviews allowed is akin to gambling and unfortunately OZ were out of chips when Aleem Dar was confused. ICC needs to rethink how to employ DRS. It was supposed to prevent such howlers and here we have a situation where was not even used because of the silly 2 review limit.

  • on July 13, 2013, 20:13 GMT

    Umpire Aleem Dar had given outstanding decisions in the so much so on-field calls stayed and very few were turned-over. Broad's case, it's a huge deflection and Dar could have thought ball deflected off Haddin's gloves. Yeah, poor decision and whole media is blasting him. But his 'appalling' decision could have been nullified if Broad walked. It didn't happen. Why? because, sometimes you as a player forget that Cricket is a gentlemen game and should be played in right cricketing spirit. Seems like Broad has a different opinion.

  • on July 13, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Tendulkar? Dravid? Gilchrist? Men of character. Or may be a certain Marvan Attapatu? When he was the Sri Lankan captain, he actually called back Symonds. Yes, CALLED BACK a player who was given out unfairly. Can you even imagine that? And a bit of nostalgia, but I recall a famous instance in 1979 in a Bombay Test (I think) when Gundappa Viswanath called back Bob Taylor because he was falsely given out. England went to win that test because of Taylor-Botham partnership. There are enough examples for people to follow, but as Siddle puts it - unfortunately, they are few and far between. Now that you have set a precedent in the case of Ramdin, you MUST punish Broad. Yes, if they had let Ramdin go, then I can understand ICC sitting still. But, they did set a precedent there. Would reek of sheer bias, if they failed to act on this one.

  • 214ty on July 13, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    England should be ashamed to celebrate this victory if they win. Waiting to see if what will happen. If nothing happens to protect the spirit of the game, then Ramden should be reimbursed, and paid for his suspended games.

  • on July 13, 2013, 15:50 GMT

    To Richard Dawkin's tweet, I don't think many people walk to the police station to hand over a wallet. What one might do (as it happened to me), is take the money from the wallet, look at the address in the driving license and mail it back.

  • Clyde on July 13, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    The laws of cricket say he was out and out he should have gone. It does not take a kind of nanny umpire to decide this. How about putting the laws first and having recourse to judgments of a nursery kind only when it can't be settled earlier? Broad and no doubt all those other players we hear about from history, including Australians, are simply infants when we consider them beside the Gilchrist type. ( I am not of course saying umpires do not have other uses, in lbw for instance.) This incident has warned a lot us that when we walk down the street we are in a minority, and ought not to think we would be competitive in business. Strange as it may seem, our minority does do an awful lot of such things as returning wallets left on beaches. I have even encountered a railway company that found the owner of a cabbage left on a seat. I think out group has, coincidentally, a lot of appeal,

  • Okakaboka on July 13, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    Broad has every right to wait for a decision.....HOWEVER....It was so far out as to be not funny! This umpire has, always, is, a shocking umpire. He simply misses the ridiculous. How many stump shavers has he given out LBW? If there is doubt.....Not out. The players clearly have no confidence in his decisions. He is a dud and should never ever ever ever ever umpire a test again.

  • on July 13, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    I understand its the Ashes and hence Broad's decision to not walk is being brought to the forefront..ok lets go back a few years 2007-2008..Ind vs South Africa at Glasgow if i am right...AB Devillers nicked one to 1st slip off the bowling of Zaheer Khan and stood his ground...the umpire in question was again Aleem Dar! Similar incident same umpire but less hue and cry! It was a bad decision and umpire's do have bad days..let us not be judgemental..and leave it as an umpiring error :)

  • BoredBurrito on July 13, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    It's not fair to blame Broad for not walking, nor is it fair to blame Australia for using up their reviews earlier either. The fault rests with the umpire. This whole UDRS is flawed. It would have taken all but 20 seconds for the 3rd umpire to contact the on-field umpires and overturn the decision.

    Cricket needs an overhaul and has to learn to accept technology instead of being Amish about the whole thing.

  • gmoturu1 on July 13, 2013, 14:37 GMT

    Love Botham's comment.........Except Gilly I do not remember any Australian batsman walking. But Broad should have walked.

  • Jayseks on July 13, 2013, 12:25 GMT

    Why can't umpires be reprimanded for such an appalling act? May be he should be asked by the match refree to do fifty push-ups and do ten rounds during the lunch time in front of the players and the spectators so that such mistakes are not repeated in future. Presently, umpires don't feel professionally responsible. More often, it appears as though umpires are two extraordinary gentlemen who have come their way out to support twenty two blokes playing on the backyard in spite of their several other commitments. When will the ICC make these umpires feel that they are professionally as responsible and even more than the twenty two blokes?

  • Jayseks on July 13, 2013, 12:25 GMT

    Why can't umpires be reprimanded for such an appalling act? May be he should be asked by the match refree to do fifty push-ups and do ten rounds during the lunch time in front of the players and the spectators so that such mistakes are not repeated in future. Presently, umpires don't feel professionally responsible. More often, it appears as though umpires are two extraordinary gentlemen who have come their way out to support twenty two blokes playing on the backyard in spite of their several other commitments. When will the ICC make these umpires feel that they are professionally as responsible and even more than the twenty two blokes?

  • gmoturu1 on July 13, 2013, 14:37 GMT

    Love Botham's comment.........Except Gilly I do not remember any Australian batsman walking. But Broad should have walked.

  • BoredBurrito on July 13, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    It's not fair to blame Broad for not walking, nor is it fair to blame Australia for using up their reviews earlier either. The fault rests with the umpire. This whole UDRS is flawed. It would have taken all but 20 seconds for the 3rd umpire to contact the on-field umpires and overturn the decision.

    Cricket needs an overhaul and has to learn to accept technology instead of being Amish about the whole thing.

  • on July 13, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    I understand its the Ashes and hence Broad's decision to not walk is being brought to the forefront..ok lets go back a few years 2007-2008..Ind vs South Africa at Glasgow if i am right...AB Devillers nicked one to 1st slip off the bowling of Zaheer Khan and stood his ground...the umpire in question was again Aleem Dar! Similar incident same umpire but less hue and cry! It was a bad decision and umpire's do have bad days..let us not be judgemental..and leave it as an umpiring error :)

  • Okakaboka on July 13, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    Broad has every right to wait for a decision.....HOWEVER....It was so far out as to be not funny! This umpire has, always, is, a shocking umpire. He simply misses the ridiculous. How many stump shavers has he given out LBW? If there is doubt.....Not out. The players clearly have no confidence in his decisions. He is a dud and should never ever ever ever ever umpire a test again.

  • Clyde on July 13, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    The laws of cricket say he was out and out he should have gone. It does not take a kind of nanny umpire to decide this. How about putting the laws first and having recourse to judgments of a nursery kind only when it can't be settled earlier? Broad and no doubt all those other players we hear about from history, including Australians, are simply infants when we consider them beside the Gilchrist type. ( I am not of course saying umpires do not have other uses, in lbw for instance.) This incident has warned a lot us that when we walk down the street we are in a minority, and ought not to think we would be competitive in business. Strange as it may seem, our minority does do an awful lot of such things as returning wallets left on beaches. I have even encountered a railway company that found the owner of a cabbage left on a seat. I think out group has, coincidentally, a lot of appeal,

  • on July 13, 2013, 15:50 GMT

    To Richard Dawkin's tweet, I don't think many people walk to the police station to hand over a wallet. What one might do (as it happened to me), is take the money from the wallet, look at the address in the driving license and mail it back.

  • 214ty on July 13, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    England should be ashamed to celebrate this victory if they win. Waiting to see if what will happen. If nothing happens to protect the spirit of the game, then Ramden should be reimbursed, and paid for his suspended games.

  • on July 13, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Tendulkar? Dravid? Gilchrist? Men of character. Or may be a certain Marvan Attapatu? When he was the Sri Lankan captain, he actually called back Symonds. Yes, CALLED BACK a player who was given out unfairly. Can you even imagine that? And a bit of nostalgia, but I recall a famous instance in 1979 in a Bombay Test (I think) when Gundappa Viswanath called back Bob Taylor because he was falsely given out. England went to win that test because of Taylor-Botham partnership. There are enough examples for people to follow, but as Siddle puts it - unfortunately, they are few and far between. Now that you have set a precedent in the case of Ramdin, you MUST punish Broad. Yes, if they had let Ramdin go, then I can understand ICC sitting still. But, they did set a precedent there. Would reek of sheer bias, if they failed to act on this one.

  • on July 13, 2013, 20:13 GMT

    Umpire Aleem Dar had given outstanding decisions in the so much so on-field calls stayed and very few were turned-over. Broad's case, it's a huge deflection and Dar could have thought ball deflected off Haddin's gloves. Yeah, poor decision and whole media is blasting him. But his 'appalling' decision could have been nullified if Broad walked. It didn't happen. Why? because, sometimes you as a player forget that Cricket is a gentlemen game and should be played in right cricketing spirit. Seems like Broad has a different opinion.