The Investec Ashes 2013 June 17, 2013

Australia low on confidence - Bailey

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George Bailey, Australia's stand-in captain for the Champions Trophy, has admitted that Australia are low on confidence, reasoning that the fate of the Ashes hinges on the result of the first couple of Tests. Australia, the defending champions, failed to make the semi-finals of what is supposed to be the last edition of the Champions Trophy, after they lost to Sri Lanka on Monday at The Oval narrowly by 20 runs, finishing at the bottom of Group B behind England, Sri Lanka and New Zealand.

It has been a demoralising few weeks for Australia, starting with the loss of their regular captain Michael Clarke to back injury, following by the David Warner controversy after the player admitted to being involved physical altercation with England batsman Joe Root in a pub in Birmingham last week before culminating in their exit from the tournament on Monday. With the first Investec Ashes Test commencing on July 10 at Trent Bridge, Australia could not be in a worse state of mind.

However, Bailey felt that the switch in the formats, the change of the ball, the infusion of fresh legs and the probable return of Clarke in to the squad could reinvigorate an Australia and arrest the downward spiral.

"There is probably not a great deal of confidence there," Bailey said at the Oval. "But it's just a very different mindset, I think, going from a one‑day tournament to a Test tournament. I don't think it's mattered where sides have been ranked going forward or in the past.

"The Ashes just tends to bring out something special in both sides. Whatever can be written and said leading up into those games, but until that first Test and the result of that first Test, I think that will dictate how the summer plays out. I think there is a huge importance in the results of the first couple of Tests."

Whatever Bailey's thoughts, the worries will persist. The biggest concern would be the slump the top-order pair of Shane Watson and Phillip Hughes. Watson had an aggregate of 34 runs while Hughes finished with 43 runs in the three Champions Trophy matches. Add to that the failure of Warner, who managed nine runs in the match against England and successive ducks in two warm-up matches, and the fragility of the Australian batting order becomes that much prominent.

There were only four half-centuries by Australia's batsmen including one from the James Faulkner, a bowling allrounder. Bailey and Adam Voges, the best performing batsmen, are not part of the Ashes plans. Australia, Bailey pointed out, would need to forget the Champions Trophy as soon as possible to move into the Ashes with a positive frame of mind.

"All of these guys will have to put this tournament behind them whether they've scored runs or not, and just focus on going forward," Bailey said. "That's no different for an Australian player to any other international player. Everyone has form slumps, everyone has their ups and downs. As a team, I think there is a really big challenge that's going to be ahead of them in the next couple of months. I think what Australia have done this time is they've got a really good preparation.

"I think a couple of the guys, the batters from this group, will maybe even join up and play the Australia A game that's due to start later this week. So, there are going to be plenty of opportunities for those guys to get some match practice in. Plenty of opportunity to get lots of practice against the Dukes balls in."

What would help the Australians immensely would be the return of Clarke who, Bailey reckoned, was likely to return for the first Ashes warm-up match, starting next Thursday, against Somerset in Taunton. According to Bailey even though it might seem Australia had been mortally wounded in the Champions Trophy there were still some positives to take forward. One reason for encouragement was Faulkner, the left-arm fast bowler, who might have just had three wickets, but his rich mix of variations could make him the surprise weapon during the Ashes.

"Faulkner has been really impressive. I think it's been good to have a lot of guys over here playing a lot of cricket in the lead‑up to the Ashes. So it's not necessarily just on the Champions Trophy group, but a lot of guys that have been playing county cricket," Bailey said. "Obviously, the Australia A groups are over here. The Champions Trophy boys that have been here for a number of weeks have been getting used to the conditions, different color ball and different format. But all of that plays a part in getting settled in. So I think all of those things will take some positives out of."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY khansaheb on | June 18, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    They have got a very good team...their batting looks good on paper and it is...but they lack technique and consistency....they should learn from india....if you look at their batting watson is a complete player..2.hughes,wade,warner lack technique which is very pivotal in english conditions...clarke is the best in the team and is a complete payer in terms of batting and captaining...bowling looks pretty good for english condition where the ball seams and swings...and the fielding is as usual magnificent from the aussies....if australia wishes to win this ashes clearly their needs to step up....in the conclusion it is england who are the clear favourites...they have got quality,class temparament to make it big....they are well covered in every department of the game...

  • POSTED BY _Australian_ on | June 18, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Australia are more low on quality than confidence with current selections. Unless the current crop start playing like a team with the lack of quality players representing us at the moment we don't have a hope of competing in the ashes let alone winning a test. Far too much relying on bits and pieces players. Our regular bowlers are outperforming allrounders with the bat in all formats. Time to select 5 bats, 5 bowlers and keeper. It is our only chance to hope that some of the batsmen perform and more bowlers gives us a chance to take 20 wickets. I don't expect to win the ashes but we should at least try to make it competitive. All ego's aside my test team would be. Cowan, Rogers, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Siddle, Harris, Starc, Bird, Lyon 12th Pattinson. That is in my opinion the best side in our country to play right now. Age should not be a factor.

  • POSTED BY _Australian_ on | June 21, 2013, 2:07 GMT

    @scottstevo. I would not call a 5-1-5 team set up ludicrous. We had a four man attack v SA and the problems we had for the Perth test with key bowlers sitting out a crucial game was ludicrous. With some tests close together we need to manage our bowlers better to remain competitive to take 20 wickets in all tests. Our batting issues are not going to be fixed by simply adding another batsman. Our bowlers are batting well enough to negate the need of an allrounder and if 5 batsman and a keeper who can bat can't score the runs needed you don't deserve to win. @landl47 I am aware that those players are not going to play. I simply feel we would do best with that side but it won't be and the result of the next 2 ashes will be easy victories for England.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | June 20, 2013, 0:41 GMT

    This upcoming Ashes series has been set up on a plate by the English media and past players. Vaughan, Flintoff, Botham to name a few have declared it a walk in the park 5-0 victort. All pressure is now on England to deliver on those predictions. I know Australia have done it in the past but that Australian side, unlike this English side was able to flog NZ in NZ, beat the Sri Lankans, Pakistanis and South Africans which this English side has done. In the hype over the state of AUstralian cricket, the state of the English team and recent results have been neglected. No pressure on the Aussies at all here, we just need to come out with no pressure and compete.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | June 20, 2013, 0:37 GMT

    Im sick of hearing about Katich, he didnt play domestic cricket in Australia at all last year. If you dont play domestic cricket you cant get picked. He is retired end of story.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | June 19, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    @landl47, Yes, I'm fully aware that the likelihood of changes is exceptionally minimal. However, this is nowhere near the best side and the selectors have got it completely wrong, in my opinion. And, there is talent in Australia...stats only tell part of a story, mate. Hick/Ramprakash ring bells? There are plenty of capable guys around, especially in ODIs, but I think there are a few we've tried in ODIs who have performed well and look the part for test cricket too. As I said, we aren't the same dominating side, and we don't have the same well of talent we had 10 years ago when we could've chosen from 10 guys averaging over 50 each season and dominating county cricket. But, if we select guys with the right technical skill sets and right mentality, they will do a good enough job for us to compete. I can think of a few top bats that with a little perseverance would be more than capable test players. We mightn't set the world on fire (nobody else will either) but we will compete with all

  • POSTED BY Macker60 on | June 19, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    Has anyone noticed that Australia only had 4 player in the CTrophy, Waston Hughes Warner and Starc, The Rest are either Playing Quality Cricket in the County Comp, Rogers B/A of 76. and Cowan B/A of 50 Both of these have scored runs against the Current English Bowlers. Australia best Batsman in Clarke out Injured Returning next week. While the Rest of the Ashes team including 4 of there best Bowlers are Playing in the A team with the Red Ball. The Question I ask was how serous was Australia in the CTrophy, I do know that they have been practicing in Brisbane with the Dukes for the Past Several Months.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 19, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    @Landl, thanks for the clarification, I agree about Fawad, it does seem strange that hes fast tracked when you have someone like Steve O'Keefe in the wings who has a pretty good record in Shield cricket.

    Which brings me to one of the points that ScottStevo is making, its almost like they are looking for a Warne MKII, just as england kept searching for a Botham MKII in the 90's. PS England fan for 30 years, thick and thin, and through many false dawns.

    @ScottStevo, in tests theres no limit on the changes that can be made to a squad, its not like a Tournament where the squad cannot be changed once selected without permission of the ICC, the only proviso would be getting the new members into the country.

  • POSTED BY on | June 19, 2013, 6:41 GMT

    @landl47on (June 19, 2013, 3:42 GMT)--Agree with most of your thoughts but I think other than Hussey there is one more player who could have made a difference--Simon Katich.May be he was dropped a couple of seasons ago but since CA does not seem to have any issues regarding backtracking earlier decisions i think he should have been in the squad.The Indian visit in 2011/12 has done much damage to Aus cricket.It established Warner as the opener and gave Punter another season unnecessarily when Khwaja should have been tried.Needless to say Warner boy doesn't need to be anywhere near Aus squad.

  • POSTED BY Un_Citoyen_Indien on | June 19, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    Well, well, well........one side accused of ball-tampering and the other that can't seem to do anything on this tour without creating controversy.

    A fine Ashes this is shaping up to be!

  • POSTED BY khansaheb on | June 18, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    They have got a very good team...their batting looks good on paper and it is...but they lack technique and consistency....they should learn from india....if you look at their batting watson is a complete player..2.hughes,wade,warner lack technique which is very pivotal in english conditions...clarke is the best in the team and is a complete payer in terms of batting and captaining...bowling looks pretty good for english condition where the ball seams and swings...and the fielding is as usual magnificent from the aussies....if australia wishes to win this ashes clearly their needs to step up....in the conclusion it is england who are the clear favourites...they have got quality,class temparament to make it big....they are well covered in every department of the game...

  • POSTED BY _Australian_ on | June 18, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Australia are more low on quality than confidence with current selections. Unless the current crop start playing like a team with the lack of quality players representing us at the moment we don't have a hope of competing in the ashes let alone winning a test. Far too much relying on bits and pieces players. Our regular bowlers are outperforming allrounders with the bat in all formats. Time to select 5 bats, 5 bowlers and keeper. It is our only chance to hope that some of the batsmen perform and more bowlers gives us a chance to take 20 wickets. I don't expect to win the ashes but we should at least try to make it competitive. All ego's aside my test team would be. Cowan, Rogers, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Siddle, Harris, Starc, Bird, Lyon 12th Pattinson. That is in my opinion the best side in our country to play right now. Age should not be a factor.

  • POSTED BY _Australian_ on | June 21, 2013, 2:07 GMT

    @scottstevo. I would not call a 5-1-5 team set up ludicrous. We had a four man attack v SA and the problems we had for the Perth test with key bowlers sitting out a crucial game was ludicrous. With some tests close together we need to manage our bowlers better to remain competitive to take 20 wickets in all tests. Our batting issues are not going to be fixed by simply adding another batsman. Our bowlers are batting well enough to negate the need of an allrounder and if 5 batsman and a keeper who can bat can't score the runs needed you don't deserve to win. @landl47 I am aware that those players are not going to play. I simply feel we would do best with that side but it won't be and the result of the next 2 ashes will be easy victories for England.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | June 20, 2013, 0:41 GMT

    This upcoming Ashes series has been set up on a plate by the English media and past players. Vaughan, Flintoff, Botham to name a few have declared it a walk in the park 5-0 victort. All pressure is now on England to deliver on those predictions. I know Australia have done it in the past but that Australian side, unlike this English side was able to flog NZ in NZ, beat the Sri Lankans, Pakistanis and South Africans which this English side has done. In the hype over the state of AUstralian cricket, the state of the English team and recent results have been neglected. No pressure on the Aussies at all here, we just need to come out with no pressure and compete.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | June 20, 2013, 0:37 GMT

    Im sick of hearing about Katich, he didnt play domestic cricket in Australia at all last year. If you dont play domestic cricket you cant get picked. He is retired end of story.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | June 19, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    @landl47, Yes, I'm fully aware that the likelihood of changes is exceptionally minimal. However, this is nowhere near the best side and the selectors have got it completely wrong, in my opinion. And, there is talent in Australia...stats only tell part of a story, mate. Hick/Ramprakash ring bells? There are plenty of capable guys around, especially in ODIs, but I think there are a few we've tried in ODIs who have performed well and look the part for test cricket too. As I said, we aren't the same dominating side, and we don't have the same well of talent we had 10 years ago when we could've chosen from 10 guys averaging over 50 each season and dominating county cricket. But, if we select guys with the right technical skill sets and right mentality, they will do a good enough job for us to compete. I can think of a few top bats that with a little perseverance would be more than capable test players. We mightn't set the world on fire (nobody else will either) but we will compete with all

  • POSTED BY Macker60 on | June 19, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    Has anyone noticed that Australia only had 4 player in the CTrophy, Waston Hughes Warner and Starc, The Rest are either Playing Quality Cricket in the County Comp, Rogers B/A of 76. and Cowan B/A of 50 Both of these have scored runs against the Current English Bowlers. Australia best Batsman in Clarke out Injured Returning next week. While the Rest of the Ashes team including 4 of there best Bowlers are Playing in the A team with the Red Ball. The Question I ask was how serous was Australia in the CTrophy, I do know that they have been practicing in Brisbane with the Dukes for the Past Several Months.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 19, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    @Landl, thanks for the clarification, I agree about Fawad, it does seem strange that hes fast tracked when you have someone like Steve O'Keefe in the wings who has a pretty good record in Shield cricket.

    Which brings me to one of the points that ScottStevo is making, its almost like they are looking for a Warne MKII, just as england kept searching for a Botham MKII in the 90's. PS England fan for 30 years, thick and thin, and through many false dawns.

    @ScottStevo, in tests theres no limit on the changes that can be made to a squad, its not like a Tournament where the squad cannot be changed once selected without permission of the ICC, the only proviso would be getting the new members into the country.

  • POSTED BY on | June 19, 2013, 6:41 GMT

    @landl47on (June 19, 2013, 3:42 GMT)--Agree with most of your thoughts but I think other than Hussey there is one more player who could have made a difference--Simon Katich.May be he was dropped a couple of seasons ago but since CA does not seem to have any issues regarding backtracking earlier decisions i think he should have been in the squad.The Indian visit in 2011/12 has done much damage to Aus cricket.It established Warner as the opener and gave Punter another season unnecessarily when Khwaja should have been tried.Needless to say Warner boy doesn't need to be anywhere near Aus squad.

  • POSTED BY Un_Citoyen_Indien on | June 19, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    Well, well, well........one side accused of ball-tampering and the other that can't seem to do anything on this tour without creating controversy.

    A fine Ashes this is shaping up to be!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | June 19, 2013, 3:42 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding: Aus picked 16 players but said they might add another later (which everyone took to mean Fawad Ahmed, if available). He was duly fast-tracked into the Australian A side and in his opening match took 0/40 and 1/25 against Ireland, not figures to keep England's batsmen awake at night. We'll see whether he is in fact added to the squad, presumably in the next week or so.

    @ScottStevo: as someone who has supported England through thick and thin (and a lot of it has been thin) for over 50 years, I understand how you feel. However, realistically, the squad won't be changed unless injuries make it necessary. They didn't even take the opportunity to get rid of Warner when they had the chance! Frankly, the only player out there who might have made a difference is Mike Hussey and it wasn't by CA's choice that he isn't in the squad. The rest are ordinary players with career averages to prove it, or mid-30s players well past their best. This squad is the best Aus has got.

  • POSTED BY RodStark on | June 19, 2013, 2:02 GMT

    Currently Australia are reminding me a lot of England back in the bad old days when the fans (and the selectors) spent enormous amounts of time throwing out all sorts of names who might do better than what they currently have, so out of pure mischief, I put forward the following team of Australians who are (I think) currently playing first-class cricket and in my opinion could probably beat any XI selected from the current Ashes squad. I used to do this with England teams in the late 90s/early 2000s.

    Katich, Bailey, Ponting, Voges, David Hussey, Smith, Paine, Johnson, O'Keefe, McKay, Cummins

    (I realize I'm a bit stuck for fast bowlers since they already have 6 or 7 in the actual squad.)

  • POSTED BY RodStark on | June 19, 2013, 1:31 GMT

    If the squad is still being adjusted, I'm surprised they don't add Bailey. Seems like a very level-headed and reliable sort of guy, and batted better than most in the CT.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | June 18, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    @landl47, as mind boggling as it may seem, there are many of us hoping against hope that someone high in the CA set up will come to their senses and select a decent squad regardless of the dodgy picks they've previously announced...Are there any rules/laws/terms around squad selections? If not, then who's to say it categorically can't happen. I certainly pray it does as we are so light on quality batsmen in this squad, it's hard to even select a top 6.

  • POSTED BY Batmanindallas on | June 18, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    what has hodge to do to get a break?

  • POSTED BY android_user on | June 18, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    Australia are low on confidence, but they have a few matches against County sides to change that. My Ashes 11 for the first test from the players chosen would be: Rogers, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Watson, Haddin, Faulkner, Starc, Siddle, Pattinson and Lyon or Ahmed (depending on who performs up until the first ashes test match. I would rather have Bailey for Hughes and Voges for Watson but they are not in the Ashes squad unfortunately. Watson I know is a good player but right now is not performing. Hopefully the whole team will have some positive games against the county sides and come into the first test with a bit of confidence. It's amazing what confidence can do. Go Aussies!

  • POSTED BY BabaBooey on | June 18, 2013, 15:26 GMT

    Bailey speaks the truth. Losing in tests obviously requires a different mindset than losing in ODIs.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    Many followers on either side of the "Ashes" had ridiculed , and may still poke delirious fun at IPL. But, let us not forget IPL is the one which put Faulkner on to the forefront of international cricket. Like Miller of South Africa! So, IPL provides the stage to showcase the skills of not just the Indian cricketers!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | June 18, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    Australia really has some serious probs ahead of the Ashes. Low on confidence and issues with Warner etc. I favour England to win 3-1 if not 4 or 5-0!

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    @landl47, (apologies if this double posts)I think the confusion is that the Aussies keep mentioning changes, maybe I should have asked about a Final squad, as there seems to be some tinkering, with Fawad being fast tracked, etc, which suggests a squad that is still under discussion let alone finalised.

  • POSTED BY Cricfan_99 on | June 18, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    I'm baffled to see so many posters here rooting for Lyon/Wade/Haddin... Seriously??? Come on Haddin is past it, Wade is only good for running his mouth off and Lyon clearly hasn't got it.. is there no one better than these guys in Oz ranks? As as neutral(favoring Oz) - I would love Oz to have 4 genuine quicks in Patto,Siddle,Starc & Cummins(if available - I'm mightily impressed with this guy) with watto to fill the all rounder slot. I was very impressed with Ed Cowan in the recent India series so the batting would look Cowan, Hughes(lots of questions though), Watto,Clarke, Warner(still a BIG IF), 1 more bat(better than khawaja please) and a genuine WK-Bat(I'm sure there should be someone else in the domestic circuit)...Oz selectors - Please don't repeat the same mistakes as you did in Ind!!!

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    @landl47, thanks I didnt think it had been finalised as they still seem to be tinkering with the squad, and talking about Fawad being included.

  • POSTED BY alarky on | June 18, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    What beautiful matches we are watching at the Champions Trophy - the highest quality of cricket, being played in any format of the limited overs tournaments! Could some person of influence in international cricket be asked to carry out a poll, to find out from the fans: "Which should be scrapped, The ICC or The Champions Trophy"; and, make the result from the polls legal?

    I am seeking the help every cricket blogger, to please let me share this opinion with all other cricket fans.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    Can Australia win at least one Test Match in 2013 ? Does not look like a reality for them. England will whitewash them in the Ashes(both) and SA will take the series 3 nil. That's their dilemma for this year. Just how they will turn into a competitive team again is anyone's guess . Right now, they are JUST above Zimbabwe and Bangladesh in terms of competitiveness. All the hype for the ashes is just to encourage ticket sales. The results is a foregone conclusion.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | June 18, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    Mind-boggling. @YorkshirePudding: the Aussie squad was announced weeks ago. @Chynnon, Vettel2013, Nama Gupta: why do you bother to suggest players who aren't in the squad? @Australian: Ponting and Hussey have RETIRED. They are not going to be selected.

    C'mon, people, do a bit of work before posting. Find out who is in the squad and discuss their chances. Otherwise you're just wasting space.

  • POSTED BY Charlie101 on | June 18, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    The Aussie team has to be low on confidence in tests as well after the drubbing India gave them. I also think team spirit and moral is not too high either and base that on Watsons attitude , Clarkes being hugely unpopular , Kwaja not getting a run in the team with Hughes etc getting plenty of opportunity , Homework gate and last and not least general discipline ( Warner ).

    Saying all this I would settle for 2 nil in England and 2-1 down under as for sure they will play for their lives against us.

  • POSTED BY ScottStevo on | June 18, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    @Australian, Why on Earth would you add an extra bowler when our batting is letting us down? The only reasonable answer for such a ludicrous idea would be that a 5th specialist bowler could assist in hopefully keeping the scores low? Nonetheless, we still have to score whatever runs are put up and going in with an even lighter batting line up seems outrageously foolhardy considering we're getting rumbled for 200 or less every second dig. What we need is 6 specialist batsmen, all of those with techiniques and temperaments for test cricket, not selected on one good T20 knock, or stats in the last domestic season based on 5 innings. We have plenty of guys who could do a job for us. No, they aren't the all conquering side we've had, those guys are gone, but we have more than enough quality around to do a job for us whilst our strong bowling attack keeps us in matches. We can compete with any of the current crop of test sides, all of them are not without their own flaws...

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Does anyone know when the offical Australian Ashes squad is announced?

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    @Posted by on (June 18, 2013, 12:11 GMT), I think its 23 by Bangladesh, until they had a drawn game in a series agaist Zimbabwe in 2004, thanks to the weather.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | June 18, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (June 18, 2013, 7:51 GMT), If England reach the final then they will have played 5 games in the CT. How is that flogging Anderson and Swann to death if half the Australian squad have just had 3 days more cricket playing playing Scotland and Ireland? The fact that Aus A have been playing FC cricket is an advantage but as far as the workload is concerned, Anderson's and Swann's will have been lighter than those Aus A players. I'm guessing that Pattinson has done more bowling than Anderson in the last week or two so how is Anderson being flogged to death in comparison?

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    for this ashes if watson is picked then he has to ball. Otherwise they can pick henriques instead, because no way in the world is his form with the bat good enough for national selection. Pattinson, starc, siddle, johnson or even Ryan Harris can all make decent contributions with the bat. So there is no harm in having the fifth bowler. Plus at his best he couldn't get a hundred, no way is he getting any in this series.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    Let's see: Australia plays England in back-to-back Ashes (10 Tests) followed by South Africa (3 Tests). They have lost 4 games in a row (India), and you are talking about being low on confidence? What's the record for most Test losses in a row?

  • POSTED BY chrynnon on | June 18, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    Cowan, Rogers, Doolan, Bailey(vc), Clarke(c), Haddin(wk), Faulkner, Siddle, Starc, Lyon, and whichever of Pattinson, Harris or Bird is least injured.

    Failing that, call up the entire Tasmanian team.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | June 18, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    Australian batters seem like they din want to bat on the recent Indian tour. The ashes may ignite them to get focused and perform well. England will come hard at them and aussie can make it 5 nil!!

  • POSTED BY Ricciardo2014 on | June 18, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    While Australia are in this phase, the flashiness needs to stop and the grit needs to set in first. It's only from there that they can build solid again. Therefore keeping players like Hughes and Warner in the test team is not good. You need grafters like Cowan even though he's not that entertaining. My team in no particular order would be: Rogers, Cowan, Khawaja, Clarke, Bailey/Voges(if they were in the squad)/Watson, Haddin, Faulkner/Extra bowler, Pattinson, Harris, Bird & Lyon

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | June 18, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    England will win in the UK but if we think 5 - 0 is on the cards then i think you want your bumps felt. their pace attack is as good as England were we look the better is in test match batters. some of the Aussie batters look very odi in outlook so some time during the 5 test series1 or 2 of the batters will come off. i would think 2 - 1 to England.

  • POSTED BY howdle on | June 18, 2013, 11:45 GMT

    I disagree when people compare the aussie and the english bowlers. the aussies have no spinner to speak of and are attempting to fast track a foreign leg spinner in who wants to play for Pakistan. the English have Swann.

    James Anderson is at the top of his game, Broad is in good form and Finn can be deadly.

    the aussies mention cummins who has played 4 FC games averaging 33 and is seemingly out of contention due to injuries. Pattinson looks a prospect. what other bowlers should england be worried about? Bird has started well, Harris is quick and can be dangerous and Faulkner is an unknown quantity.

    I would say England's attack looks the more fearsome, but England's batting lineup can crumble which will make it such an interesting series.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | June 18, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    @Australian, Whilst I agree with most of what you said. Ponting & Hussey have made their decisons and I don't see either of those decisons being reversed, so Aus will now just have to get on with it. I also think that as a test batsman Ponting was well past his best & but for a prolific series against a very poor Ind attack in 2011 -12 would have dissapeared from the test stage well before he did. I think his run of form in this years Shield was don't to him no longer playing under any pressure & the drop in standard from facing quality international bowling attacks to domestic ones. Hussey is by far the greater loss as he was still pretty near the peak of his powers and capable of getting runs against the best attacks in the world.

  • POSTED BY HawK89 on | June 18, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Why isn't there room for Voges? I'm going to be mad if I see Wade playing, especially when Haddin is a far better wicketkeeper and batsmen than him. Maybe Voges can take Lyon's spot, all he has to do is bowl 80-90kmph down the pitch.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    @Surajrises, I doubt Australia will win the series, unless england play well below par,I doubt the Warner controversy will galvanise the team, and if they draft in Fawad that might cause more issues especially with O'keefe doing very well in shield but not getting even a sniff of a call up, Aus might also struggle if Clarke isnt 100% as their middle order is very brittle. Bowling wise, a lot will depend on Siddle and preying the youngsters stay fit.

    I agree SA are a strong unit but they have struggled in home conditions in the past, so they blow a bit hot and cold as we've seen in the past, a lot will rest on how Smith, Amla and Kallis perform with the bat, as well as their bowling attack which has some depth, but they can misfire if Steyn isnt around.

    In regards to India, there were other factors in India's slip, partly the coach, Kirsten strikes me as someone who is a softly-softly type coach, where as Fletcher has always been considered a bit Abrasive.

  • POSTED BY OneEyedAussie on | June 18, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Low on confidence - the question I would ask is why? Australia have a pretty good record in Tests and ODIs going back the past two years (it's comparable to England's). They have a world class batsman (who is also arguably the worlds best player). The bowling unit is strong and well-stocked. They have some quality emerging batting talent. I think it is time to seriously look at the administrators, selectors and managers of Australian cricket.

  • POSTED BY Bathinda11 on | June 18, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    All is not lost for Aussies..in CT there were lot of problems, but can't take them for granted that they will haunt them in Ashes too. Big challenge for Aussies right now is struggling middleorder. The best way to solve it is to get your best man playing over there. Clarke could bat at no: 4 and it would not bad to pair him with Voges at 5. Watson can bat at 6, let him come late and take the charge, he can play a role of Prior, who comes later on pile up runs quickly. They can open with Cowan & Rogers and Bailey seems to be best bet for 3 right now. a line up like Cowan, Rogers, Bailey, Clarke, Voges, Watson, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris/Bird, Siddle, Lyon could do really good ..any replacement could be in the form of Smith, Bird...this could be really firing lineup...plz publish

  • POSTED BY palla.avinash on | June 18, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    From the current ashes squad given 1.Chris rogers,2 cowan,3 watson/khwaja,4 clarke,5 wade,6 haddin(wk) 7 faulkner 8.siddle 9 starc/ryan harris 10 lyon and 11 pattinson is the best 11 from the given squad i would like to add bailey instead of watson and voges instead of wade in current form but when ur looking future u need to give youngsters some chances even though u might loose some games but as bailey is younger than watson time to bailey a chance a head of watson buy drafting him and trent copeland should be in squad if any bowler gets injured.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    The real problem is attitude of guys,, everyone in Aus team wants to lead the side,, be it Watson or Warner,,,,Team goes other side and these guys goes other side. There are no bunch of bowlers who are with team in last 3-4 series. If you have 3-4 bowlers who are new to each other,, does not build confidence. Also they dont have any steady spinner after warne who can make difference,,,

  • POSTED BY Dazako on | June 18, 2013, 10:51 GMT

    Everyone seems to agree Warner, Watson, Hughes are not good enough to play in the upcoming series based on current form. Lets hope the selecters see it the same way and do something about it.

  • POSTED BY Beertjie on | June 18, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    @_Australian_ on (June 18, 2013, 4:11 GMT): Agree that "Australian cricket is at it's lowest ebb for 25 years." But a combination of inexperience, poor selection and injuries have played their part in its demise. Please humour me @ 11_Warrior on (June 18, 2013, 8:45 GMT) about "Australia losing 5-0 in both editions of Ashes". If it does happen in the first edition I can see a much better performance in Ashes II when a proper clean-out may lead to the nucleus of a new team to take on England and South Africa: Rogers, Doolan, Khawaja, Clarke, Burns, Smith, Paine, Faulkner, Pattinson, Cummins, Bird/Ahmed. That lot definitely won't lose 5-0 and might even with a bit of luck regain the Ashes. Someone will say I'm grasping at straws, but just compare 25 years ago (1988) and 1989 (regaining Ashes).

  • POSTED BY Lara213 on | June 18, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    The similarities to England's disastrous build up for the Ashes in 2006/7 is uncanny including an early exit in the Champions Trophy in India, poor selection and a general lack of focus: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ausveng/content/story/275205.html

    Maybe we can pay them back that 5-0 whitewash.

  • POSTED BY VillageBlacksmith on | June 18, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    the many misguided aussie (&indian) posters on here are suggesting picking aussie players for the first test that are not even in the squad, and not even available for selection....!! u people really are still living in the past and expecting warne ponting hussey to suddenly reappear (why not mcgrath aswell?) and make a difference even tho u have not won an ashes series in eng since 2001... even when that lot were playing!! move on, get a life, open yr eyes & take off the blindfold.. its JIMMY time!!

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | June 18, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Low on confidence? Well just wait until Ahmed joins the team.

  • POSTED BY Dazako on | June 18, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    @Craig Dengate I couldnt agree more with your side of Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Voges, Clarke, Bailey, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris. Siddle, Lyon. With one variation S Smith in for Hughes. Lets face facts Hughes should carry the drinks and force his way into the side through runs.

  • POSTED BY Surajrises on | June 18, 2013, 10:27 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding I agree with you that the Indian team just went out of form once Gary left and may be that could happen with South Africa too. But Graeme Smith, Kallis and Devilliers are strong bunch of guys and will still give their 100% is what I believe. Coming to the Australian team, they might still pull out a cracker from nowhere to beat England. All this controversy of David Warner might just put them on top and then may be Warner will come in after a good rest and net practice to murder the England bowlers. Thrz still a chance on Australia beating England.

  • POSTED BY MartinC on | June 18, 2013, 10:23 GMT

    I'm English but credit where its due - George Bailey has shown very well IMO as both a captain and a batsmen in the CT (silly run out aside). He handled the Warner press conference really well and has shown a sense of humor in difficult circumstances which I suspect is going to be something needed from the Aussie camp this summer :-) He talks a lot of sense as well. With Clark having a dodgy back and a lack of any real quality apart from Clark on the batting you could do a lot worse than have Bailey in the Test side as your vice captain.

    Mitchell Johnson bowled much better than I have seen him bowl for quite a while as well - looked to have a much higher arm which has made him more consistent.

    I think you are short of talent in the batting department whoever plays but I cant help thinking you dont have the best team out you could from the available players (so I am not counting Ponting and Hussey who have retired).

  • POSTED BY Surajrises on | June 18, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    I still think Peter Forrest should be given one more chance in that middle order. He looks technically strong player. Forrest should definitely be given a chance. He looked impressive during his debut against India or Sri Lanka during that ODI series. Forrest could make that middle order stronger for Australia..

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 10:10 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm, Really comfortable wins against an Irish team stacked with Aussies, Saffas and players who struggle to make most county XI's and and a Scottish team thats even worse, mind you I suppose the Aussies can feel comfortable in the knowledge at least one aussie team has won something this summer. :-D

  • POSTED BY brusselslion on | June 18, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    @_Australian_ on (June 18, 2013, 4:11 GMT): With the exception of Lyon - come on, there must be someone better? - that looks a pretty decent team. Fortunately for us England fans, there is no chance of that side getting onto the park.

    The fact that so many different names are being suggested by posters really does indicate that Australian cricket is at it's lowest ebb for 25 years.

    Mind you, you could still sneak a series win. Unlike many England fans, I don't think that we are any great shakes: Injuries to Anderson and Swann and our attack doesn't look too clever: The likely replacements Bresnan and Panesor aren't setting the world on fire at the moment and Finn and Broad are inconsistent.

    All in all this promises to be a pretty average series in terms of quality.

  • POSTED BY DragonCricketer on | June 18, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    I still think Aussies can win. I suppose I am biased. But Hughes was one of the worlds in form players a few months ago, I think he will be a big Ashes performer. Also Bird. Open with Rogers and Cowan and have Watson lower. I think Patterson, Lyon and Siddle will do well too, Most of these players didn't play in the CTrophy.. Must have a really good first day of the series though.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    I know its only ODI's, but... Lets get Voges and Bailey in the Test side. They are the only ones to consistently score runs outside of Clarke for Australia. So for me... Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Voges, Clarke (Lets face facts, he prefers batting 5, let him), Bailey, Haddin for the bats. Then Pattinson, Harris and Siddle with Lyon as the spinner. Its our best shot.

  • POSTED BY 11_Warrior on | June 18, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    Ponting & Hussy has retired from international cricket, Clarke is unfit, Watson, Hughes, Khwaja are is not in form, Warner is most unlikely to make it to Test eleven because of disciplinary issues, Australia losing 5-0 in both editions of Ashes

  • POSTED BY o-bomb on | June 18, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    As an outsider it surprises me that Bailey and Voges have never been given a chance at test level. They look like 2 well organised patient players who are far more suited to test cricket than sluggers like Warner and Hughes.

  • POSTED BY Big-Dog on | June 18, 2013, 8:20 GMT

    When your selectors keep giving you out of form players like Watson, Marsh, Hughes & Wade, why would you have any confidence. Bailey really was handed the poisened chalice.

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | June 18, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    In my aussie team brad hodge,michale husey, david hussey,mitchel Johnson,Haddin still get place. Australian management don't know how to handle senior players. with these they will at least win 2 test matches against England in ashes. Don't think Current ashes squad will win single test, it will be white wash again..

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 18, 2013, 8:05 GMT

    @AlanF, I doubt Australia will lose that many, I suspect at least one will be weather affected this summer, and they may pull of a tight win or a draw to make it 3-1 or 2-1, and the return series could be just as even but still an England win in Aus.

    SA I'm not so sure about, tey can be a little hot and cold and with Kirsten leaving as coach it could be a factor, look at how India fell off the rails after his departure.

  • POSTED BY Behind_the_bowlers_arm on | June 18, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    Confidence? Clarke is almost fit, Rogers and Cowan are making regular runs in County cricket and half the Test team has just had two comfortable wins (& 8 days red ball cricket) in Scotland and Ireland. Meanwhile England are flogging Jimmy Anderson and Graeme Swann to death in one day cricket in a desperate attempt to win a one day crown before Kenya do.

  • POSTED BY AlanF on | June 18, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    Australia's two best openers are both playing for Middlesex. I would go with Rogers, Robson, Hughes (no alternative really), Clarke, Khawja, Burns (not part of the squad but he's in the UK), Haddin, Faulkner, Pattinson, Bird and Lyon. But realistically, weather aside, Australia is going to lose 17 consecutive Tests - four to India, 10 to England and three to South Africa.

  • POSTED BY deeplongon on | June 18, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    Good discussion on overall competition of the team. I'd favour the old formula. 5 batsmen, no 6 is a batsman who can bowl (for me that's Faulkner not Watson), the keeper (and is Wade up to it - don't think so) and then 4 Bowlers. As for the top 3, my goodness. Can any of them make more than 30 on a regular basis?

  • POSTED BY timvenner on | June 18, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    Since Australia need an experienced batsman, surely Simon Katich should be in the frame. Regularly scoring runs for Lancashire; accustomed to English pitches / bowlers / conditions; and would feel very at home at the venue for the 3rd Test !

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | June 18, 2013, 6:44 GMT

    To have any realistic chance of competing agains Eng, we must seriously be looking at Voges, Bailey, Smith for Test duty - Watto & Hughes + Warner are weaking the top order... Add to that we have very real issues of durability with Watto & now Clarke + Pattinson is a constant liability - then we add Harris & Bird who are coming off injuries, we could get half way through a Test & be down 4/5 players & no one would be shocked...

    I would much rather go in with a 5-1-5 team & drop Watson, bringing in Faulkner or Starc as a 4th seamer...

    Cowan, Rogers, Bailey, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Faulkner(Starc), Siddle, Pattinson, Harris(Bird), Lyon...

  • POSTED BY muzika_tchaikovskogo on | June 18, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    Both sides have strong attacks- nothing to choose between them. The batting is what will decide the course of the ashes and Australia's greatest worry is that their top 3 does not look settled. In England, they are the ones who set up the innings. It'll be too much to expect one or two batsmen to bail the team out of a crisis everytime.

  • POSTED BY hmmmmm... on | June 18, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    @_Australian_ completely agree - I don't think you are alone in thiniking that we have to stop with the bits and pieces players! However, i think we need 6 batsmen (one of which can bowl) and four specialist bowlers. We can't have the keeper coming out at 4 down unless it's someone who bats like gilly. As sad as it is, we also need to pick new players to grow and be given time and not hope for the return of retired greats like ponting and hussey...my additions to your lineup would be khawajia at 3 and for better or worse, watson at 6 (if he is able to bowl) or as much as I don't like him, steve smith has improved in red ball cricket and looks to have some fight.

    @Oldwombat - yes why are there no murmurs about mickey arthur? Surely he is accountable in some way to the team morale and performance?????

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 5:54 GMT

    the Australian ODI squad which i feel is 1.watson 2.Nic Maddison 3.Shaun Marsh 4.Clarke 5.Bailey 6.Paine 7.Christian 8.Lyon 9.Pattison 10.Starc 11.richardson

    12.Maxwell 13.Hazlewood 14.cummins 15.Pomersbagh 16.mitchell marsh

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    Without help of rain , this team cant draw a test match . So forget about ASHES .Winning one test itself is going to be big deal for this team.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 5:50 GMT

    I doubt whether this team can win a test against any test playing nation . I doubt even the very same team can win India in Australia . That team had the likes of Ponting, Clarke and Hussey . If you note the scores , there was nothing difference between the rest of AUS batting line up and Indians. I dont see any batsman aside Clarke in this lineup to face 200 or more balls even in the flattest track .

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 5:25 GMT

    @Big_Maxy_Walker. Agreed re Warner, Hughes and Watson. They've had ample opportunity to prove themselves in both odi's and tests and if they haven't performed by now (which they haven't), i doubt they will suddenly do so. The failed M. Marsh and Maxwell experiments should be ended here, with their replacemnts being D. Hussey and Ferguson. In fact, I'd have D. Hussey in my test team as well. First test: 1.Watson (last chance), 2.Cowan, 3.Rogers, 4.D. Hussey, 5.Clarke, 6.Khawaja, 7.Haddin, 8.Siddle, 9.Pattinson, 10.Harris, 11.Starc/Lyon/Ahmed, 12th man: Bird.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    I am a Pakistani and it aches me to see that both Aus and Pak are moving into the same direction ... total abyss! I think it is just the selectors that aren't doing their work properly. There is still time and in my opinion Australian batting needs a shake-up before Ashes. Too late to do that? No. Desperate times require desperate changes. First of all, there should be totally seperate teams for ODI/T20 and Tests. There is no way warner/watson (without bowling)/Hughes/Smith/Henriques/Maxwell should play tests.

    My Ashes squad will include players like: 1. Rogers 2. Doolan 3. Khwaja 4. Bailey 5. Clarke 6. Voges 7. Haddin 8. Faulkner 9. Siddle 10. Pattinson 11. Mckay/Starc/Johnson/Lyon.

  • POSTED BY Oldwombat on | June 18, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    Well, I do not comment very often because i feel that all those involved do their best with the tools that they have. But it always amazes me, why the team management permits players to be out drinking at all hours of the night when on tour??? The other thing I see here, or rather do not see here, is the coach. Where does he stand in all of this rather dismal tour. I honestly think we require and Australian to coach our team. As a sideline I am so pleased to Mark "Tubby" Taylor back on the Board!!

  • POSTED BY C.Gull on | June 18, 2013, 4:43 GMT

    @ThatsJustCricket, I second this. I would have Bailey in the Test team ahead of Watson (on current form/attitude), Warner (ditto), Hughes (agh!) or Maxwell (what the?!) any day of the week.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 4:27 GMT

    australia's best batsman won't be playing the ASHES people agree or not BAILEY is the best among the lot he seems to have the temperament and poise to be in the middle and he has shown to have shoulders to carry the entire team he might not have got over the line carrying the aussies but he still brought them till there the aussie team might even lose to bangladesh in bangladesh that is the extent to which the standard of the aussie cricketers has gone down

  • POSTED BY gmadhan_raj on | June 18, 2013, 4:23 GMT

    I am an Ashes Fan, and I don't think Champions Trophy defeat will hurt Team Australia in upcoming Ashes series. Same time Australia will have their won worries in Ashes, like how their batting unit will face Anderson and co. James Anderson at his best and he is at his peak of his career. On the other hand Australian batting side is still struggling and recently they have lost Hussy on their side. David warner should play his natural game and that will confident to the middle order. Australia should include players like Voges to strengthen their middle order. Apart from batting worries, I think bowling department is very good and all they need is a little bit of support from batting unit.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    Watson may have to go back to Shield Cricket. Hughes however was picked on great shield form, being the leading run scorer in the season when he was picked. Warner has a good test batting average. Not great, but quite good. Hughes and Warner both have more test centuries than Watson, Warner averages around 40.

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | June 18, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    This surely must be golden boy Watson's last chance.

  • POSTED BY ContentmentISGood on | June 18, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Get in Maxwell and Voges for the Ashes. Get rid of Hughes and Watson. Chris Rogers instead of Warner. But most importantly, Clarke should show leadership around the group and collaborate the team together for the common purpose just like what Ponting did.

  • POSTED BY nickvegas on | June 18, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    Who is Bailey and what does he know? In fact who are half of the current Australian team? I assume they must know the coach/selectors cos they ain't in the team based on performance

  • POSTED BY xylo on | June 18, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    If there was one format that the Australian team looked good in, it was in ODIs. Having performed so poorly in ODIs, what am I supposed to expect from them in tests? Barring weather, and England's safety-first approach, it is going to be a clean whitewash for England. I can bet that McGrath would agree with me.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    5-0 the only possible Ashes result, barring bad weather.

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | June 18, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    Australia thrased in India they said "It won't affect us in Ashes" Now crashed out of CT, "It will be different mind set in ashes"...here comes Ashes, thrashed again...oh its okay, it won't affect next tournament, because we are going to get thrashed again.

  • POSTED BY ThatsJustCricket on | June 18, 2013, 2:39 GMT

    I am not an Aussie and may not be the best person to judge, but, doesn't Bailey look a lot better bat than the likes of Hughes and Warner? Watson, on current form, is only of value if he bowls. Not sure how he makes the team on batting alone.

  • POSTED BY slow.mo on | June 18, 2013, 2:27 GMT

    It's still a battle of ball and bat Mr. Bailey and you are not good at it at the moment. I didn't see any positive sign in your Champions Trophy campaign. It has been a display of mediocre bowling, dismal batting and not so good fielding. The lack of quality has been apparent. I don't know how you will turn around from that in less than a month.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 2:17 GMT

    Watson, Warner and Hughes are the most talented in the side.. along with Clarke. Who feels threatened by them due to his narcissism. Hence their troubled times and slipping averages.Clarke IS behind it all, he is the reason for Australia's turmoil.

  • POSTED BY Big_Maxy_Walker on | June 18, 2013, 1:53 GMT

    To me Warner, Hughes and Watson have had enough chances, I say go back to domestic cricket and earn your spot back the hard way. Cowan, Rogers, Khawaja, Doolan, Clarke, Steve Smith, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris/Siddle, Lyon, Bird

  • POSTED BY Big_Maxy_Walker on | June 18, 2013, 1:53 GMT

    To me Warner, Hughes and Watson have had enough chances, I say go back to domestic cricket and earn your spot back the hard way. Cowan, Rogers, Khawaja, Doolan, Clarke, Steve Smith, Haddin, Pattinson, Harris/Siddle, Lyon, Bird

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 2:17 GMT

    Watson, Warner and Hughes are the most talented in the side.. along with Clarke. Who feels threatened by them due to his narcissism. Hence their troubled times and slipping averages.Clarke IS behind it all, he is the reason for Australia's turmoil.

  • POSTED BY slow.mo on | June 18, 2013, 2:27 GMT

    It's still a battle of ball and bat Mr. Bailey and you are not good at it at the moment. I didn't see any positive sign in your Champions Trophy campaign. It has been a display of mediocre bowling, dismal batting and not so good fielding. The lack of quality has been apparent. I don't know how you will turn around from that in less than a month.

  • POSTED BY ThatsJustCricket on | June 18, 2013, 2:39 GMT

    I am not an Aussie and may not be the best person to judge, but, doesn't Bailey look a lot better bat than the likes of Hughes and Warner? Watson, on current form, is only of value if he bowls. Not sure how he makes the team on batting alone.

  • POSTED BY Romenevans on | June 18, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    Australia thrased in India they said "It won't affect us in Ashes" Now crashed out of CT, "It will be different mind set in ashes"...here comes Ashes, thrashed again...oh its okay, it won't affect next tournament, because we are going to get thrashed again.

  • POSTED BY on | June 18, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    5-0 the only possible Ashes result, barring bad weather.

  • POSTED BY xylo on | June 18, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    If there was one format that the Australian team looked good in, it was in ODIs. Having performed so poorly in ODIs, what am I supposed to expect from them in tests? Barring weather, and England's safety-first approach, it is going to be a clean whitewash for England. I can bet that McGrath would agree with me.

  • POSTED BY nickvegas on | June 18, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    Who is Bailey and what does he know? In fact who are half of the current Australian team? I assume they must know the coach/selectors cos they ain't in the team based on performance

  • POSTED BY ContentmentISGood on | June 18, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Get in Maxwell and Voges for the Ashes. Get rid of Hughes and Watson. Chris Rogers instead of Warner. But most importantly, Clarke should show leadership around the group and collaborate the team together for the common purpose just like what Ponting did.

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | June 18, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    This surely must be golden boy Watson's last chance.