West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 4th day

Learning from Chanderpaul a priority - Darren Bravo

Daniel Brettig at Windsor Park

April 26, 2012

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Darren Bravo pushes the ball to the on side, West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 4th day, April 26, 2012
Darren Bravo: "Batting with Shiv gives me confidence." © AFP
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Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Test cricket's latest 10,000-run man, is providing incalculable value to a young West Indies team by the example he sets in training and at the batting crease, Darren Bravo has said. Bravo was at the crease with Chanderpaul when he passed the mark on day four of the third Test against Australia in Dominica, and their partnership briefly gave the hosts hope of chasing down a distant target of 370 to defeat the tourists.

Though both would be dismissed before the close, Chanderpaul lbw on a DRS referral by Australia's captain Michael Clarke in the final over of the day, Bravo said the progress being made by the Caribbean side was due in large part to the fact that the team's younger players have Chanderpaul's famously relentless batting to measure their methods against.

"The good thing about it is whenever you talk to Shiv and ask for advice, he is 100% willing each and every time [to share his advice]," Bravo said. "We're very fortunate to have him in this team at this point in time and we enjoy his company, he's going to be around for a very long time still. He's scored lots of runs and as young batsmen in the team we should try to take a page from Shiv's book as much as possible - as long as we do we're going to improve as a batting unit in the future.

"I think the way he practises, he puts his heart and soul into the way he practises. Shiv's a guy who will bat first at training and then be the last to leave the nets, so it is something us as young batsmen can look at. The way he goes about an innings is special, he plays the ball on its merits and his concentration level is very good. It is just a matter of learning from him as much as possible … very important for us to pick his brain at every opportunity."

Bravo said the privilege of being at the other end when Chanderpaul stroked run No. 10,000 would stay with him for a long time, and only served to strengthen a batting relationship that has already reaped six century stands in Test matches.

"Batting with Shiv when he achieved his 10,000th run was a special feeling, really nice to be out there with him and share the moment," Bravo said. "We're all happy for him and he's going to go down as one of the best batters for the West Indies, so I'm really happy for him.

"Shiv is someone I enjoy batting with each and every time, we have had a few partnerships, we tend to get pretty decent partnerships. When I'm batting with Shiv he's always there encouraging me and telling me to treat the ball on its merits and try to rotate the strike as much as possible. I try to do that. Batting with Shiv gives me confidence, we all know he's much more experienced so batting with him is definitely a plus."

Having made 45 to conclude a series in which he has made plenty of starts but never quite carried on, Bravo said he was determined to learn from his first meetings with Australia. As stumps approached on day four, Bravo had been undone by a quicker delivery from allrounder Shane Watson - the ball was onto him with more pace than expected and prompted an edge through to wicketkeeper Matthew Wade.

"I believe it was an effort ball from Shane that had a bit more pace than the previous delivery," Bravo said. "I think, looking at the replays, it was too close to cut. I have to learn from those mistakes and go from strength to strength. I don't want to focus too much on the negatives, I am always taking positives.

"I'm disappointed in my performances [in this series] but I think I tried my best. In certain situations I was able to get a partnership with another batsman going. It is a learning experience and it is very important for me to learn from my mistakes."

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Posted by Rally_Windies on (April 27, 2012, 14:23 GMT)

Indian_wi_fan ......

I 100% agree with your team selection, but you'd have to drop shilly and Sammy to bring in Russel and Narine ....

Shilly is not bad, but we know he is not as good as Narine ...

but the WI mentality is... : anytime a spinner demands to be selected by stellar regional performances ..... they pick a 3rd or 4th ranked spinner from somewhere else just to keep the performing and deserving player OUT ......

do you remember Perry and Hendy Brian ? who were just there to keep Nagamotto and Dhanraj out ?

and lets not forget Benn ... who has never been and will never be better than Shilly or Miller .....

but now that the 2 best spinners are Narine and Miller ...

Shilly is in luck, because he is the 3rd ranked spinner ......

Only in the WI, you need to be 3rd best to play.. and 1st best gets benched .. we have a LONG history of doing that to our spinners. ...

Posted by king_kenie on (April 27, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

In my assessment of Darren Bravo I see him getting out with shots that he is good at playing but don't suit the condition in which he is playing. A typical example was shown in the last innings he played. Twice I saw him coming down the track to launch Michael Clarke over long off. That's a shot he can play very well but in those conditions it was close to impossible to play. Both times he inside edged the ball just out of reach of the short mid wicket fielder. With that amount of turn he should have been looking to go over wide long on or mid wicket. My recommendation to Bravo is that he do like Shiv and select his scoring shots based on the conditions in which he is playing and not on his ability to play them nor his liking for them. This generally is the case with most batsmen who get good starts then get out often. I heard Jayawardene after making a century against Australia said that in his game plan he decided not to play any cover drive because of how much the ball was swinging.

Posted by   on (April 27, 2012, 14:04 GMT)

It devastates me to know that Chanders still has detractors in the Caribbean. It would make up for years of desolation if young WI cricketers apply the advice from the old heroes to become matchwinners. That's something the first post-1995 generation did not do.

Posted by   on (April 27, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

Darren said he is trying is best, & I like that. He is also willing to learn,that is a good sign. I know he will come good in England.

Posted by   on (April 27, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

My opinion is not important to the selectors. How I fell about GAYLE is my personal view. More than likely Gayle & Sarwan will return to the side. And Kirk should be tested as an opener. Also Dwayne will be back. Yes, no problem with Russell & Narine. With the batting strengthen WI can be more than competitive in Eng.

Posted by   on (April 27, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

What is important is that young Bravo is trying his best & willing to learn. I can live with that. Batting is no easy art.

Posted by   on (April 27, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

I agree with you Darren Bravo, just stay clear of Otis Gibson and Darren Sammy advice.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (April 27, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

Why is kirk edwards not playing? How is he worse than Powell, brathwaite?

Posted by Boxilla on (April 27, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

Big CONGRATULATIONS to Shiv Chanderpaul on joining the elite 10,000 runs club. As AllroundCricketFan says, the unsung hero for the last 10 years and more of the West Indies. A Long Suffering West Indies Fan!

Posted by nzcricket174 on (April 27, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

Now if we could only get Gayle, Sarwan, Kirk Edwards, other Bravo and Narine to play for West Indies they could have some team to reckon with!

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Daniel Brettig Assistant editor Daniel Brettig had been a journalist for eight years when he joined ESPNcricinfo, but his fascination with cricket dates back to the early 1990s, when his dad helped him sneak into the family lounge room to watch the end of day-night World Series matches well past bedtime. Unapologetically passionate about indie music and the South Australian Redbacks, Daniel's chief cricketing achievement was to dismiss Wisden Almanack editor Lawrence Booth in the 2010 Ashes press match in Perth - a rare Australian victory that summer.
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