West Indies news September 8, 2013

Saqlain sees potential in WI spin stocks

Renaldo Matadeen
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Saqlain Mushtaq, the former Pakistan offspinner, believes West Indies have the potential to redefine their bowling, given the vast array of spinners emerging from the region recently. Mushtaq is currently conducting a three-week camp for promising male and female spinners in the Caribbean and expressed optimism at the roster thus far.

"There are some talented youngsters. They are passionate and it's showing in this camp," Saqlain said. "I'm working on techniques and their tactical approach also. We're also touching on the physical aspects of spinners and how fit they should be. They need to know how they should look after their fingers. I am eager to pass on my knowledge and experience.

"There's a rich history in the West Indies for spin. People often think it's just only pace. Lance Gibbs was the first spinner to take 300 wickets. He put the seed of spin in. Sonny Ramadhin is another. Obviously, fast bowling took over but the region at present has good leggies, offies and doosra bowlers also."

Saqlain said Sunil Narine was the focal point of West Indies' spin talent, which would be crucial in years to come. "I always worked hard and tried to be different. I am teaching these players this. Be different. I was learning from watching the likes of Wasim (Akram) and Imran (Khan). I was lucky to play for Pakistan. It helped me look at Abdul Qadir, who I developed a lot from.

"Bowlers like Muttiah Muralitharan and (Anil) Kumble also added a lot to my experience. I am hoping to impart such to the West Indies youngsters." Saqlain pointed to Devendra Bishoo, Shane Shillingford and Veerasammy Permaul as players that were capable of adding to the spin attack when the opportunity arose.

Saqlain had taken 208 wickets in 49 Tests and 288 wickets in 169 ODIs between 1995 and 2004. He said that West Indies coach Ottis Gibson, whom he knew from his playing and coaching career at Surrey, had approached him after West Indies had won the World Twenty20 in 2012.

"I jumped at the chance to offer my expertise. West Indies is a big part of world cricket. My good friend Mushtaq Ahmed helped England improve to a cricketing giant once more and I'd like to do the same with my knowledge."

Renaldo Matadeen is a sportswriter and social media manager for ESPN Caribbean. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY on | September 12, 2013, 4:44 GMT

    @John-Price, i think he was injured alot last few years of his career and so he decided to retire. @desihungama, thats the first time i am hearing he was sidelined because PCB wanted an all fast bowlers team. It could be true what you are saying.

    Neverthless, he was a great, prolific bowler . He would take 2-3 wickets every match easy. I think he still holds the record of collecting first 150 wickets in minimum number of games.

  • POSTED BY on | September 10, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    Neither Bishoo or Permaul will make it to the big leagues. They just not good enough and there are better prospects in the West Indies.

  • POSTED BY Desihungama on | September 10, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    @John-Price- At first, He is not 36. He is much older say around 40. Why he was shunned out early has to do with the arrival of Shoaib Akhtar. That was the time Pakistan Cricket with Akram at the helm decided to go all out FAST. They brought guys in like M. Akram (current bowling coach of Pak), M. Sami, Shabbir Ahmed, Rao Ifthikhar and countless others though none materialized. Saqlain albeit fit was kept out and he immediately decided to retire and made a move to England by virtue of his marriage and therefore a great great loss for Pakistan in the end. Akram probably knew he could have rivaled him in wickets the way he was going in ODI's.

  • POSTED BY Green_Team on | September 9, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    @John-Price Because of Political interference on PCB

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | September 9, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian...."Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you", that's a good joke, saqlain was a great spinner and had an avg of 21 n 29 in ODIs n Tests while Sunil avgs 24 in Odis n a horrible "48 in tests"(cant even take wkts against BD in tests)...so can u explain how sunil is better. Saqlain invented the doosra n was the best spinner in ODIs during 96-99 n was also very good in tests, unfortunately he had a few injuries which took a toll on his body n performances n he lost his place in Pak team...

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    I think the Windies board have got the wrong end of the stick, they shoudl get someone like Saqlain to work with the next generation of spinners to work on their actions etc ready to join the first class circuit/international stage, you can tweak and change the established ones a little for some short term gain, but they should think more long term

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian.your musings r ignorant.Saladin is a great coach f2f or Windies spinners

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Well Well Well ... after he said all these... my only question for Saqlain is "how did you forget bowling magic?" you.. your self in Limbo at 36 year old prime age.. how you gonna show youngsters how to bowl? What if they forget how to spin.. they need coach like you? don't overate your self so much.. i rather love to see you in field and get some wickets to prove your talks. By the way Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you!!!

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 8, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    Great comments Saqlain has seen it all I also didn't know Lance Gibbs was first spinner to 300 wickets good stuff.

  • POSTED BY anton1234 on | September 8, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    We don't need yet another country where spinners become the main form of attack. We want to see giant fast bowlers come out of WI. Its been quite a while now since that has happened. Its fine if he wants to develop the spinners there, but he shouldn't be trying to take away what comes naturally to West Indies. They love to hit hard with the bat and ball fast with the ball.

  • POSTED BY on | September 12, 2013, 4:44 GMT

    @John-Price, i think he was injured alot last few years of his career and so he decided to retire. @desihungama, thats the first time i am hearing he was sidelined because PCB wanted an all fast bowlers team. It could be true what you are saying.

    Neverthless, he was a great, prolific bowler . He would take 2-3 wickets every match easy. I think he still holds the record of collecting first 150 wickets in minimum number of games.

  • POSTED BY on | September 10, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    Neither Bishoo or Permaul will make it to the big leagues. They just not good enough and there are better prospects in the West Indies.

  • POSTED BY Desihungama on | September 10, 2013, 1:32 GMT

    @John-Price- At first, He is not 36. He is much older say around 40. Why he was shunned out early has to do with the arrival of Shoaib Akhtar. That was the time Pakistan Cricket with Akram at the helm decided to go all out FAST. They brought guys in like M. Akram (current bowling coach of Pak), M. Sami, Shabbir Ahmed, Rao Ifthikhar and countless others though none materialized. Saqlain albeit fit was kept out and he immediately decided to retire and made a move to England by virtue of his marriage and therefore a great great loss for Pakistan in the end. Akram probably knew he could have rivaled him in wickets the way he was going in ODI's.

  • POSTED BY Green_Team on | September 9, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    @John-Price Because of Political interference on PCB

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | September 9, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian...."Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you", that's a good joke, saqlain was a great spinner and had an avg of 21 n 29 in ODIs n Tests while Sunil avgs 24 in Odis n a horrible "48 in tests"(cant even take wkts against BD in tests)...so can u explain how sunil is better. Saqlain invented the doosra n was the best spinner in ODIs during 96-99 n was also very good in tests, unfortunately he had a few injuries which took a toll on his body n performances n he lost his place in Pak team...

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    I think the Windies board have got the wrong end of the stick, they shoudl get someone like Saqlain to work with the next generation of spinners to work on their actions etc ready to join the first class circuit/international stage, you can tweak and change the established ones a little for some short term gain, but they should think more long term

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian.your musings r ignorant.Saladin is a great coach f2f or Windies spinners

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Well Well Well ... after he said all these... my only question for Saqlain is "how did you forget bowling magic?" you.. your self in Limbo at 36 year old prime age.. how you gonna show youngsters how to bowl? What if they forget how to spin.. they need coach like you? don't overate your self so much.. i rather love to see you in field and get some wickets to prove your talks. By the way Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you!!!

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 8, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    Great comments Saqlain has seen it all I also didn't know Lance Gibbs was first spinner to 300 wickets good stuff.

  • POSTED BY anton1234 on | September 8, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    We don't need yet another country where spinners become the main form of attack. We want to see giant fast bowlers come out of WI. Its been quite a while now since that has happened. Its fine if he wants to develop the spinners there, but he shouldn't be trying to take away what comes naturally to West Indies. They love to hit hard with the bat and ball fast with the ball.

  • POSTED BY John-Price on | September 8, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    Does anyone know why Saqlain finished so early? He's only 36 now and it's nearly 10 years since his last test.

  • POSTED BY on | September 8, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    Yes Saqlain - we are tremendously happy to hear that you are optimistic about our potential! However, WILL OUR SELECTORS EVER PICK MORE THAN ONE SPINNER PER TEAM???

  • POSTED BY PAK_CricFan on | September 8, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    saqlain mushtaq is great bowler and his expertise can benefit WIs spinner alot... good to hear about Devendra Bishoo from the veteran himself.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | September 8, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    Saqlain coaching Windies is good news. They need Desmond Haynes to coach their batting now. With Otis Gibson providing the direction to fast bowlers...West Indies can come back to greatness.

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  • POSTED BY android_user on | September 8, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    Saqlain coaching Windies is good news. They need Desmond Haynes to coach their batting now. With Otis Gibson providing the direction to fast bowlers...West Indies can come back to greatness.

  • POSTED BY PAK_CricFan on | September 8, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    saqlain mushtaq is great bowler and his expertise can benefit WIs spinner alot... good to hear about Devendra Bishoo from the veteran himself.

  • POSTED BY on | September 8, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    Yes Saqlain - we are tremendously happy to hear that you are optimistic about our potential! However, WILL OUR SELECTORS EVER PICK MORE THAN ONE SPINNER PER TEAM???

  • POSTED BY John-Price on | September 8, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    Does anyone know why Saqlain finished so early? He's only 36 now and it's nearly 10 years since his last test.

  • POSTED BY anton1234 on | September 8, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    We don't need yet another country where spinners become the main form of attack. We want to see giant fast bowlers come out of WI. Its been quite a while now since that has happened. Its fine if he wants to develop the spinners there, but he shouldn't be trying to take away what comes naturally to West Indies. They love to hit hard with the bat and ball fast with the ball.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | September 8, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    Great comments Saqlain has seen it all I also didn't know Lance Gibbs was first spinner to 300 wickets good stuff.

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Well Well Well ... after he said all these... my only question for Saqlain is "how did you forget bowling magic?" you.. your self in Limbo at 36 year old prime age.. how you gonna show youngsters how to bowl? What if they forget how to spin.. they need coach like you? don't overate your self so much.. i rather love to see you in field and get some wickets to prove your talks. By the way Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you!!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian.your musings r ignorant.Saladin is a great coach f2f or Windies spinners

  • POSTED BY on | September 9, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    I think the Windies board have got the wrong end of the stick, they shoudl get someone like Saqlain to work with the next generation of spinners to work on their actions etc ready to join the first class circuit/international stage, you can tweak and change the established ones a little for some short term gain, but they should think more long term

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | September 9, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    @George Jenny Hailey Sebastian...."Sunil Narine is way better bowler than you", that's a good joke, saqlain was a great spinner and had an avg of 21 n 29 in ODIs n Tests while Sunil avgs 24 in Odis n a horrible "48 in tests"(cant even take wkts against BD in tests)...so can u explain how sunil is better. Saqlain invented the doosra n was the best spinner in ODIs during 96-99 n was also very good in tests, unfortunately he had a few injuries which took a toll on his body n performances n he lost his place in Pak team...