Australia A in England 2012 July 30, 2012

Cutting added to 'A' tour injury list

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Ben Cutting, the Queensland fast bowler, has become the third paceman to withdraw from Australia A's tour of England due to injury, flying home following the conclusion of the tourists' opening match against Derbyshire.

Cutting, 25, had not been selected in the XI for the match, and was diagnosed with a back problem that necessitated his return home.

In departing early from the tour, Cutting joined Pat Cummins and James Pattinson as fast bowlers unable to gain valuable experience in English climes on the tour due to injury.

Cummins did not make the start of the tour, picking up a side strain during the preceding ODI tour by the senior team and heading home to Sydney.

Pattinson played in the final two matches of that series before complaining of an abdominal strain and being sent home as Australia A prepared for their tour with a training camp in Southampton.

Alister McDermott and Nathan Coulter-Nile were called into the squad in place of Cummins and Pattinson, and Cutting's injury has enhanced their chances of taking part in the next match of the tour, against Durham from Wednesday.

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  • zenboomerang on August 2, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    @Meety... Glad you read my every post & hang on my every word & yet try to make others peoples comms your own - guess we should somehow all feel flattered... Your predictions have been poor to say the least in England - about as bad as your knowledge on seqld weather & as good as Hammond being an Aussie...

  • landl47 on August 1, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    Interesting that Coulter-Nile, who will be 25 in October, has played exactly 13 first-class games in his career. I guess one way of avoiding getting hurt is not to play. @Nerk: Last time I saw Shane Watson, he was hobbling off the field injured. I guess the new regime isn't much more successful than the old regime, is it? Seriously, all bowlers face injury problems from time to time. England has lost Tremlett for long periods, SA lost De Lange from this tour, Roach had to leave the WI tour, Zaheer Khan has had lots of fitness problems in the last year, Shane Bond was hardly ever fit and on it goes. Aus is unlucky to have lost several bowlers at once, but it's just that stuff happens. Maybe the others will make the most of their opportunity.

  • Meety on July 31, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    @zenboomerang - no doubts you'll return comms, no doubt that you'll get yourself in a tangle too! Love the northern summer comment, keep it up - priceless! Also love the fact you have such a wonderful existence where you actually googled my comments & reviewed them! Quite sad, in a creepy sort of way! LOL!

  • Nerk on July 31, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    I agree with many of the comments here in regards to pace bowlers going to the gym too much. Last summer Shane Watson came out and said the worse thing he ever did for his cricketing career was go to the gym everyday. Fast bowling requires a lot of flexibility, and his suggestion was that by building muscle he was sacrificing the flexibility needed to complete his bowling action. Something had to give, and it was the muscles he worked so hard to build in the gym. He only goes to the gym a few times a week, and doesn't work out half as much as he used to. The gym should be a twice a week thing, bowling should be done every day.

  • zenboomerang on July 31, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    @Meety... lol... No, it is the problem of bringing back bowlers too early in this nthn summer... Can you remind us all of your FC stats or that 2 wks of rain in se qld that for you equals an English summer... lol... Glad to return all your comms :P ...

  • Hammond on July 31, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    I think the best way to be bowling fit is to bowl. And bowl and bowl. Flat out for half an hour a day every day. And then be playing cricket a lot. If you look at cricket history the amount of deliveries that say, Bill Voce bowled in his first class career (90,000) has been halved by the time Craig McDermott came along (40,000) and it's getting less every generation. How can you expect the body to take the strain of bowling if you don't put the overs in? Then try and crank up every delivery to over 140kmh when you just don't have the bowling conditioning, but a pretty set of muscles that you picked up at the gym? Someone like Trueman didn't have the body of a greek sculpture, but he had the physique of a cricketer and could keep coming in all day. These young Aussie blokes are soft.

  • Meety on July 31, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    @ zenboomerang "..not sure what is going on atm with our bowling stocks..." - so is there a problem with our rate of injuries with our bowlers now as opposed to a couple of months ago? Interesting!

  • jezzastyles on July 31, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    Technology/diagnosis of potential injuries have improved dramatically - but I'm with @Unifex (above); the old-timers generally kept toiling away through the pain barrier, and it didn't seem to do them much harm. Unfortunately, times have changed - but if this level of injury persists, then we may be faced with having a "popgun" attack in the upcoming series vs. PAK and SA later this year.

  • Unifex on July 31, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    I remember Michael Holding saying that the great Windies quicks used to just keep bowling, and their bodies became used to it and they didn't break down - and no one could say they weren't putting in! Mikey reckoned lots of lights weights as training and lots of bowling. Keep it simple - worked for Holding, Roberts, Garner, Marshall, Ambrose et al!

  • zenboomerang on July 31, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    @Marcio... Agree on the "slightest niggle" comment & it has been said by the support staff for a number of years now it is better getting rested for a slight injury rather than a 'maybe' major one - though that can be counter productive with players not toughening up enough (physically & mentally)... Fairly recently John Hastings said that this will be his last chance to go through rehab & he is only 25 y.o. - not sure what is going on atm with our bowling stocks...

  • zenboomerang on August 2, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    @Meety... Glad you read my every post & hang on my every word & yet try to make others peoples comms your own - guess we should somehow all feel flattered... Your predictions have been poor to say the least in England - about as bad as your knowledge on seqld weather & as good as Hammond being an Aussie...

  • landl47 on August 1, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    Interesting that Coulter-Nile, who will be 25 in October, has played exactly 13 first-class games in his career. I guess one way of avoiding getting hurt is not to play. @Nerk: Last time I saw Shane Watson, he was hobbling off the field injured. I guess the new regime isn't much more successful than the old regime, is it? Seriously, all bowlers face injury problems from time to time. England has lost Tremlett for long periods, SA lost De Lange from this tour, Roach had to leave the WI tour, Zaheer Khan has had lots of fitness problems in the last year, Shane Bond was hardly ever fit and on it goes. Aus is unlucky to have lost several bowlers at once, but it's just that stuff happens. Maybe the others will make the most of their opportunity.

  • Meety on July 31, 2012, 22:00 GMT

    @zenboomerang - no doubts you'll return comms, no doubt that you'll get yourself in a tangle too! Love the northern summer comment, keep it up - priceless! Also love the fact you have such a wonderful existence where you actually googled my comments & reviewed them! Quite sad, in a creepy sort of way! LOL!

  • Nerk on July 31, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    I agree with many of the comments here in regards to pace bowlers going to the gym too much. Last summer Shane Watson came out and said the worse thing he ever did for his cricketing career was go to the gym everyday. Fast bowling requires a lot of flexibility, and his suggestion was that by building muscle he was sacrificing the flexibility needed to complete his bowling action. Something had to give, and it was the muscles he worked so hard to build in the gym. He only goes to the gym a few times a week, and doesn't work out half as much as he used to. The gym should be a twice a week thing, bowling should be done every day.

  • zenboomerang on July 31, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    @Meety... lol... No, it is the problem of bringing back bowlers too early in this nthn summer... Can you remind us all of your FC stats or that 2 wks of rain in se qld that for you equals an English summer... lol... Glad to return all your comms :P ...

  • Hammond on July 31, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    I think the best way to be bowling fit is to bowl. And bowl and bowl. Flat out for half an hour a day every day. And then be playing cricket a lot. If you look at cricket history the amount of deliveries that say, Bill Voce bowled in his first class career (90,000) has been halved by the time Craig McDermott came along (40,000) and it's getting less every generation. How can you expect the body to take the strain of bowling if you don't put the overs in? Then try and crank up every delivery to over 140kmh when you just don't have the bowling conditioning, but a pretty set of muscles that you picked up at the gym? Someone like Trueman didn't have the body of a greek sculpture, but he had the physique of a cricketer and could keep coming in all day. These young Aussie blokes are soft.

  • Meety on July 31, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    @ zenboomerang "..not sure what is going on atm with our bowling stocks..." - so is there a problem with our rate of injuries with our bowlers now as opposed to a couple of months ago? Interesting!

  • jezzastyles on July 31, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    Technology/diagnosis of potential injuries have improved dramatically - but I'm with @Unifex (above); the old-timers generally kept toiling away through the pain barrier, and it didn't seem to do them much harm. Unfortunately, times have changed - but if this level of injury persists, then we may be faced with having a "popgun" attack in the upcoming series vs. PAK and SA later this year.

  • Unifex on July 31, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    I remember Michael Holding saying that the great Windies quicks used to just keep bowling, and their bodies became used to it and they didn't break down - and no one could say they weren't putting in! Mikey reckoned lots of lights weights as training and lots of bowling. Keep it simple - worked for Holding, Roberts, Garner, Marshall, Ambrose et al!

  • zenboomerang on July 31, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    @Marcio... Agree on the "slightest niggle" comment & it has been said by the support staff for a number of years now it is better getting rested for a slight injury rather than a 'maybe' major one - though that can be counter productive with players not toughening up enough (physically & mentally)... Fairly recently John Hastings said that this will be his last chance to go through rehab & he is only 25 y.o. - not sure what is going on atm with our bowling stocks...

  • on July 31, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    Did someone say Pattinson isn't fast?

  • Orsoncarte on July 31, 2012, 1:02 GMT

    @RandyOz. I think you're spot on there. The stresses and strains of pace (I won't say fast because they're not) bowling cannot be replicated in the gym. Get them into the nets or centre wicket practice and repeat, repeat, repeat until they toughen up and get it right as well. Put electric dog collars on them as well. Overstepping? Zap. Short and wide outside off? Zap. On the pads? Zap.

  • MinusZero on July 31, 2012, 0:02 GMT

    They are about as durable as a paper hat in the rain. What is wrong with Aussie quicks these days

  • srriaj317 on July 30, 2012, 23:47 GMT

    For goodness's sake, are these new kids really from the same land of Dean Jones and Steve Waugh who scored tons on one leg and had to be dragged out of a ground? Allan Border will never let these blokes anywhere near a cricket field!

  • Meety on July 30, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    @sifter132 - what you say could help, but to say it's simple - is too simple IMO. I think a lot of factors come into it, like Brett Lee talked about the constant impact at the bowling crease increased the bone density & meant he was better able to absorb the impacts, which only comes with plenty of FC fixtures.Unfortunately, players are playing higher & higher proportions of short formats where 4 over maximums in 1 over spells are more & more common. Condensed FTP means that big men are in the air more flying to fixtures (big problem in Oz). I would tend to think that there would be more problems in the match preparation. Side strains suggest that the players aren't loose enuff, but it also could mean other problems elsewhere in the body, it could just mean problems in the action. It could also involve what you said, players trying too hard for limited opportunities, although a bit of patience would suggest you would be in with an opportunity soon!

  • sifter132 on July 30, 2012, 21:48 GMT

    Too many fast bowlers in the squad I think is the problem. They picked 7 for the ODI series when only 3 were ever going to play at once. Too many bowlers on tour leads to a) trying too hard when you get your chance eg. Cummins, or b) not getting regular match bowling and getting injured because you are just bowling randomly eg. Pattinson. Pick 4 or 5 bowlers next time, set out a schedule BEFORE the tour of who is going to miss what matches and regularly rotate so you get 3 games on 1 game off - no one will strain themselves because they already know what games they will play, and everyone will get the same amount of rest. Simple.

  • pepsi_challenge on July 30, 2012, 21:47 GMT

    @Marcio There is no way that is a slight niggle.... This is a very important tour for the younger quicks to become accustomed to the Duck ball and english conditionins. This is a tough tour for the quicks as there is no proper bowling lead in time coming to this tour. Indoor bowling would have been the flavour for the last few weeks duee to weather / net availability and the increase in intensity is enough alone to hurt you

  • Marcio on July 30, 2012, 13:08 GMT

    Obviously there has been a change in policy, and bowlers are being sent home with the slightest niggle. There is no other way to explain this. It is simply impossible for so many bowlers to get injured like this over a sustained period.

  • Beertjie on July 30, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Many bowlers claim not to be in favour of rotation, but that seems mandatory given these injuries. Take 5 quicks next year and rotate them regularly - that will be better than replacing them all in the course of the tests!

  • RandyOZ on July 30, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Honestly, I demand to know who is the fitness coach. Get the players out of the gym and into the nets/.

  • maddinson on July 30, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    Don't pick Cutting again if he can't stay fit, will they pick Hazlewood now?

  • on July 30, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    Wow, just to add to the plethora of comments... What's going on with Australia's fast-bowlers??

  • Hammond on July 30, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Since when did Australia breed chocolate soldiers masquerading as quick bowlers? Incredible.

  • Matt. on July 30, 2012, 9:31 GMT

    So frustrating. At this rate we were stuck with Siddle and Hilfenhaus and Johnson as our bowling attack for the next few years!

  • Hattrick_Capes on July 30, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    All the bowlers are breaking down with strains and back problems. When you see footage of Mitchell Johnson in a harness pulling tyres, is it any wonder that the second they get near Australia's so-called 'fitness specialists, they break down?

  • on July 30, 2012, 7:41 GMT

    Man. I thought that Bruce Reid was brittle. These guys snap in half if here is a bit of a breeze.

  • Meety on July 30, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Spewing! At the start of last summer, I was expecting that Cutting would prove himself worthy of a Baggy Green, he played well all thru the Shield & some short forms, played really only one poor game (touring NZ side @ AB oval) & then gets injured. Injured for the Shield Final & now this, without bowling a ball in anger! Incredibly dissappointing. Gee whiz Siddle is looking better every day! Hope they send over Copeland. Massive opportunity could open up for Ali Mac & NC-N!

  • jmcilhinney on July 30, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    Are we sure it's not just a man-flu sweeping through the Australian bowling ranks?

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  • jmcilhinney on July 30, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    Are we sure it's not just a man-flu sweeping through the Australian bowling ranks?

  • Meety on July 30, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Spewing! At the start of last summer, I was expecting that Cutting would prove himself worthy of a Baggy Green, he played well all thru the Shield & some short forms, played really only one poor game (touring NZ side @ AB oval) & then gets injured. Injured for the Shield Final & now this, without bowling a ball in anger! Incredibly dissappointing. Gee whiz Siddle is looking better every day! Hope they send over Copeland. Massive opportunity could open up for Ali Mac & NC-N!

  • on July 30, 2012, 7:41 GMT

    Man. I thought that Bruce Reid was brittle. These guys snap in half if here is a bit of a breeze.

  • Hattrick_Capes on July 30, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    All the bowlers are breaking down with strains and back problems. When you see footage of Mitchell Johnson in a harness pulling tyres, is it any wonder that the second they get near Australia's so-called 'fitness specialists, they break down?

  • Matt. on July 30, 2012, 9:31 GMT

    So frustrating. At this rate we were stuck with Siddle and Hilfenhaus and Johnson as our bowling attack for the next few years!

  • Hammond on July 30, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Since when did Australia breed chocolate soldiers masquerading as quick bowlers? Incredible.

  • on July 30, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    Wow, just to add to the plethora of comments... What's going on with Australia's fast-bowlers??

  • maddinson on July 30, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    Don't pick Cutting again if he can't stay fit, will they pick Hazlewood now?

  • RandyOZ on July 30, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Honestly, I demand to know who is the fitness coach. Get the players out of the gym and into the nets/.

  • Beertjie on July 30, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Many bowlers claim not to be in favour of rotation, but that seems mandatory given these injuries. Take 5 quicks next year and rotate them regularly - that will be better than replacing them all in the course of the tests!