Bangladesh v Pakistan, World T20 2012, Group D, Pallekele

Enough is enough for underachieving Bangladesh

Bangladesh's players, fans and media have been satisfied with mediocrity for too long. Where is their Tiger Pataudi, or their Arjuna Ranatunga, to drag them out of that mindset?

Abhishek Purohit in Pallekele

September 25, 2012

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Shakib Al Hasan scored 84, Bangladesh v Pakistan, World Twenty20 2012, Group D, Pallekele, September 25, 2012
It is time for Bangladesh to stop being satisfied with heroic individual performances from Shakib Al Hasan © AFP
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Spend a day in the streets and restaurants of the teeming cities of Dhaka and Kolkata and you will find out how passionate Bengalis are. Passion is Bengal. Bengal is passion. Throughout history, the land has been at the forefront of revolution, be it nationalistic, linguistic, intellectual. It is time for another revolution to happen in Bangladesh. Of the cricketing kind.

It is time for Bangladeshis to say enough is enough. It is time for them to demand higher standards of a team that has mostly let them down, again and again and again. It is time for them to stop being satisfied with heroic individual performances from Shakib Al Hasan. It is time for them to stop celebrating a rare win over a top side like they have won the World Cup.

Bangladeshis are fanatical in their love for the game. Just as man has to breathe air to survive, whether it is stale or fresh air, so do Bangladeshis support their cricket team, whether it does well or not. Most of the times, it gets thrashed. But Bangladeshis' support for their "Tigers" does not waver an inch. They have been stoical as long as Bangladesh have been on the international scene. On the very rare occasion, their suppressed pain bursts through, as it did when Bangladesh were dismissed for 58 against West Indies in the 2011 World Cup on home turf in Mirpur. But on the whole, they have celebrated every small achievement. Small is what they have been afforded by their hopelessly underachieving team.

The cricketing reasons can be repeated endlessly. Lack of quality fast bowlers, over-reliance on one brand of spin, talented but unreliable batsmen, poor fielding. In the end, it must come down to that one word. Belief. To an outsider, do Bangladesh believe they can be world beaters? No. Do Bangladesh fans believe they can be world beaters? No. Do Bangladesh media believe they can be world beaters? No.

It is revealing to watch the reactions of the majority of Bangladesh media during a game. They are the rare breed in a press box who will clap and cheer every Bangladesh boundary, inside-edged or not, and every opposition wicket, earned or not. But it appears that deep down, they know that their team is not going to defeat a top side like say, Pakistan today.

There is another revealing factor. You can make out from the demeanour of the majority of the Bangladesh players and media that they feel they are from Bangladesh and the rest are from the top teams. This feeling of inferiority - to call a spade a spade - manifests itself in misplaced aggression in the comments section of ESPNcricinfo articles from Bangladesh fans. It manifests itself in Mushfiqur Rahim saying before the Pakistan game that Bangladesh have nothing to lose. Nothing to lose? There was a damn world event to be won for heaven's sake. Bangladesh had a chance, an outside chance albeit, of making the Super Eights, but it was still within their control. And yet again, they couldn't control their destiny.

Fight they did, but only with the bat. Even then, they made some basic errors that showed their tendency to lose their heads precisely when they don't need to. Shakib had taken Sohail Tanvir for three consecutive boundaries. There was really no pressing requirement for a tight single off the next ball. The result was that a batsman in full flow, Tamim Iqbal, was needlessly run out.

With Shakib hitting boundaries at will, Mushfiqur Rahim and Mahmudullah needed to ensure Shakib had most of the strike. Instead, they perished trying to hit big shots. Mushfiqur after being dropped, Mahmudullah off his very second ball.

Bangladesh's approach with the ball betrayed complete lack of awareness. Having watched a quality fast bowler like Umar Gul being carted for 43 runs in three overs due to his overuse of the short ball, they came out and proceeded to dish out the same stuff to Imran Nazir and Mohammad Hafeez. Mushfiqur later said they had used the short ball because subcontinent batsmen are weak against it. This after their own batsmen, also from the subcontinent, had taken Gul and his bouncers apart.

Saqlain Mushtaq, the former Pakistan offspinner and Bangladesh spin bowling consultant, said a couple of days earlier that Bangladesh had the potential to beat any side in the world if they played to their potential. Just how do they begin to play to potential more often than once in a blue moon? Just how do they develop that belief that they can defeat top sides consistently?

They can have all the coaches and consultants and support staff they want. But perhaps, it has to start from the leadership. Tiger Pataudi led an Indian team handicapped by their inferiority complex against sides like England and Australia. He got them to shed that complex and taught them how to win. Fourteen years after Sri Lanka played their first Test, Arjuna Ranatunga, combative and capable, led them to a World Cup triumph.

Where is Bangladesh's Pataudi or Ranatunga? Mushfiqur is a skilled, fearless and earnest young man. He would have made a fine head boy at school. Shakib is the incomparable genius in a side where nobody can hope to even come close to him. Tamim has the swagger of a man who can do things with the bat others in the side can only dream of. But can any one of these three be that inspirational leader, one whose presence and personality can shake Bangladesh out of their prolonged acceptance of low standards? Their fans can attempt to find out by raising their own standards.

Abhishek Purohit is an editorial assistant at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (September 28, 2012, 20:07 GMT)

Where is Abhishek Purohit now? Why shouldn't you now write the article named- Enough is enough for Inconsistent India?

Posted by Adnan.ctg on (September 28, 2012, 18:02 GMT)

You just say the mind language of all the Bangladesh fan... Tamim, Mushfiq, Sakib Only 3 Quality player we have in 15 crore people. Believe it or not!! If we change our poor mind satisfactory, we can play better cricket from any nation. Our cricket players are very much supported by our fans every time, even our losing streak gone on 50!! (Sorry for poor english)

Posted by i_amVIVA on (September 28, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

very well written; agree with most, but we all got to remember bd is still a very young team of cricieters. bd need may be another 5/6 years at the least to win consistently when this batch of youngsters get maturity, apply situation sensibly, and react and respond effectively. only hope that day comes sooner than later...

Posted by Meety on (September 28, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

@shams1882 on (September 26 2012, 08:17 AM GMT) - well said, sad but true! It is not a definitive reason, there are many other factors, but atelling one that is often overlooked. I don't necessarily agree with the Rahim example. His prime reason in the side is to be a Keeper, so hitting 6s isn't the main thing. I would say Taibu of Zimbabwe was close to the same size but bigger in the shoulders.

Posted by Meety on (September 28, 2012, 11:43 GMT)

@Legaleagle on (September 27 2012, 21:16 PM GMT) - mate, the fact is - it is barely 12 years since being given test status, that is barely one generation of sporting athletes. Bangladesh's problem is not the talent (they do well in U19s), it is the finishing school in their FC comp. They get that right, the results will follow. I would suggest their administrators should download a copy of Australia's Argus Report & amend where needed!

Posted by zaman_ash on (September 28, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Mr.Abhishek, from cricinfo stat- Sep.2008-Sep.2010, BD played 27 ODI matches(EXCLUDING MATHCES AGAINST ZIM & IRE) & won 6, win percentage- 22%. Sep.2010-Sep.2012,BD played 22 ODI matches(EXCLUDING MATHCES AGAINST ZIM & IRE) & we won 9, win percentage- 41% . so u can see our winning percentage has been almost doubled in last 2yrs than the 2yrs period before that. so, things seem to be changing in a better way than u depicted in the article. ya,surely things could have gone better,but let me tell u we r not entirely frustrated with the stat i mentioned above...& the change in attitude- ummm well, that's being been loaded...yet to be served... :-) **Zim & Ire supporters, plz don't take it as an offense that the record against u weren't taken here. i did it just to get the record against the higher ranked teams. i hope u understand.**

Posted by the_unforgettable on (September 28, 2012, 9:36 GMT)

I agree with the article about some bold criticisms here but it lacks pure study in some parts. The fans here in Bangladesh are never shy of expecting big, I remember there were news of some fans committing suicide when Bangladesh lost the final in the Asia Cup. Though we tend to celebrate even the small wins but it doesn't mean that we are satisfied with those wins only. When you get to witness your team winning rarely, it would surely generate exorbitant pleasure and because of our general attribute, we can't resist the joy and go on to dance on the streets like we have won the the world cup. Besides, you also need to understand that our first class cricket is only 12/13 years old whereas even SL have domestic four day competitions of more than 100 years old, let alone the earlier teams of test cricket.

Posted by sneeky55 on (September 28, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

one of the truly stunning articles i have read on cricinfo, that goes beyond just cricket. I truly agree with everything mentioned in this.

Posted by   on (September 28, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

@Tasneem Raihan rply to "wickylover.paklover" force me to comment . It is very sad to hear this. But thing is that if i say same thing to u then there will be no difference between u and me. Only thing i want to say is that " May ALLAH give u sense so that u should think before u speak".

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (September 28, 2012, 7:24 GMT)

They dont have enough quality players, how are they supposed to win? Ultimately that's the only thing that matters. The rest like self-belief etc can only take u so far.

Posted by Smack-DAT on (September 28, 2012, 6:51 GMT)

@TwohedulAzam: Very very well said..every cricket lover would love to see BAN emerge as a top team not even BAN but other associate teams also..cricket will become dull with only top 8 teams..we need more teams to make it global...and again very well said

Posted by AHZ-Dubai on (September 28, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

In sports physical attributes play a major part. I helps to be physically strong and bigger. Unless the genetic modification technology is fast forwarded and we have Begaladeshis taller than 5'5'' we will never see a competitive Bagladeshi team. As you will never see a Vietnamese world sprint champion so you will never see a good Bagladeshi cricket team.

Posted by   on (September 28, 2012, 3:23 GMT)

@r0ketman... I love u man!

Posted by   on (September 28, 2012, 2:55 GMT)

@oops282 no we don't need court approval to play against quality teams....we need court approval only to play with terrorist countries.

Posted by ziggy500 on (September 28, 2012, 0:09 GMT)

this squad of players are not going to be world beaters at this rate. BD need to face this problem not by changing their attitude, but their whole way of life. what BD needs is professionalism. they need to train extra hard every day, not lumber around, their eating habits must change, not rice and curry which makes them fat (look at tamim). they must spend hours watching matches, studying techniques over and over of the big 6 teams, not hours watching old hindi movies on cable tv. they must cover each basic over and over until they never forget it for their life. they must study cricket like its a university because this is their job and they have to be proffesional. these are what forge winning teams, this is the mentality they must create in the team. this is the professionalism the big teams follow, they must stop acting like minnows, because this is their full time job and if they were doing my job to their standard, they would be fired. i am not a BD hater, i am just loyal fan

Posted by TwohedulAzam on (September 28, 2012, 0:09 GMT)

I am quite angry & frustrated with Cricinfo as they have allowed some comments which seems to suggest that BD'S t20 failure is due to their refusal to tour Pakistan. With every respect to people from Pakistan, I ask why do we have to visit Pakistan when no other teams are? We do not have to learn cricket in exchange of life. Yes, we want to play against quality opposition but in a place which is considered safe by rest of the world. I have every sympathy for our Pakistani brothers and sisters who are in Pakistan and I understand that they are also facing same risks everyday and if I had the ability to ensure safety for all of them, I would have done that straight way. But, it is very unfortunate to see some comments which deny this safety issue blindly. Please stop mixing cricket with politics, if you want to play politics then learn it first by ensuring a safe place to play cricket!

Posted by Praxis on (September 27, 2012, 22:44 GMT)

@oops282, at least we don't have to convince other teams about security reasons. We are on the right path, eventually we'll compete hard enough. BTW, our court works, any normal citizen has the right to question the authorities & gets to use it.

Posted by TwohedulAzam on (September 27, 2012, 22:36 GMT)

@oops282 - Yes of course we have to listen to our court as we live in a democratic country with responsible court who were worried about the safety of our cricketers. We value our cricketers. To play quality cricket we do not have to go to a place where most of the cricket nations are not going because of safety issue, neither do we have to arrange home match at a neutral venue, we can play quality cricket right in our home.

Posted by oops282 on (September 27, 2012, 21:54 GMT)

@Golam Nabi : oh so u want to play against good teams . But for that u have to get approval for ur court . aint it ?? :p

@Ashraf Gul : dont know who u r . but atleast be realistic

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 21:34 GMT)

After narrowly loosing to Pakstan in Asia Cup finals Bdeshis started talking too big. This thrashing fm NZ & Pak will hopefully bring them to earth

Posted by Legaleagle on (September 27, 2012, 21:16 GMT)

@ Ahmed Hussain: Now Bangladesh is a minnow? Until few weeks ago Bangladesh was a serious player in T20. Not long ago, when Bangladesh won a match by fluke and got to number 4 ranking- they were in the contention and emerging as a serious team.

The author is right to point out the anomaly in the Bangladesh cricket system: Bangladesh is NOT starting from scratch as has been pointed out by many commentators and cricket writers, they re-entered the cricket fold unlike other countries who started playing cricket for the first time. When Pataudi was playing cricket in England, people from British India including Bangladesh were also playing cricket in England. When Bangladesh became part of Pakistan they were hosting test match in East Pakistan until 1971 (check history of Bangladesh cricket stadiums).

So the excuse from Bangladesh that others have taken this much time to register first win or to produce another Ranatunga or Pataudi does not apply to Bangladesh!!

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 18:12 GMT)

Ireland and Afghanistan have better technology now then Bangladesh had when they got their test status !! Bats have become amazing and now it is easy to find weaknesses in teams thanks to really good computers!! Bangladesh have improved and are actually a good odi side! T20 is luck most of the time! Dont compare Bangladesh to Afghanistan and Ireland because Bangladesh are miles better. If Bangladesh gets a couple of brilliant, wicket taking and economical fast bowler than they would be a dangerous side; an Australia B, SA B, England B fast bowler could get into the T20, test team of Bangladesh. Nazmul, Mashrafee good for home odi's and add rubel for places outside subcontinent...

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

shakib is better then afridi anyday i can rely on shakib to make 40 runs and 2 wickets every match but with afridi i can count on 2 wickets and probably about 5 to 10 runs usually afridi gets out in the first over he will come in and hit a four and six and get out after that

Posted by Tokai69 on (September 27, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

Sorry to see my previous comment has not been published, and here I am writing part of it again. I agree some point with Purohit that BAN players need to believe in themselves first. I really hate to see when Management, media and even senior players in the team comment very low in the beginning of the game. Team BD does not have any lack of Cricketing facilities comparing most of the subcontinental teams. If they can do, why not BAN. Some people are complacent that IND spent 30 years to have that aura so we still have time. Why we strive for the bad examples to justify ours. If they can't get away of their minnow mentality, no matter how hard they practice they will never go to the supper 8.

Team BAN need a solid itinerary with big teams and need seriously a psychologist to revert their attitude in the field.

Posted by TwohedulAzam on (September 27, 2012, 17:12 GMT)

No matter what Mr Purohit and others are saying we will always stand by our team BD, this team has nearly given us Asia Cup. I still remember true gentlemen Misbaul-Haque & Shahid Afridi saying we have won the Asia Cup but BD won heart of the people. How did they do that? I guess not by dancing & acting, they did that with quality cricket. I regret that many of the comments here from India, Pakistan, and Srilanka fans lack that spirit which was reflected in Misbah & Afridid's comments.Perhaps they (fans here) still can not digest that heroic performance from our boys, and may be worried about their future if Bangladesh starts to dominate Asian cricket along with India. Otherwise, I do not see the need for this article when we did not even play any serious cricket since that heroic in Asia Cup, please do not tell me you consider this 2 match t2o as serious cricket. What I mean is that we did even get another opportunity to play a proper series against a full strength team after that.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

Well said sir. Wish a few more of our fans, journalists, cricket analysts and at least one single player of the team could think like you.

Posted by r0ketman on (September 27, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

wickyroy.paklover: Yup we saw who lacks talent and skills, when you compare the stats from the BD-PAK game, we saw who was the better allrounder. Didn't you say Shakib is nothing when compared to Afrdi? Yeah, we saw who is better, in fact the whole world saw it.

Posted by TwohedulAzam on (September 27, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

I do not agree with this harsh criticisms of the BD team. The fact that t20 IS NOT even considered cricket by many cricket legends and pundits (One of them is Ranatunga mentioned here by the writer as the hero Bangladesh need) has some merits and thats why Bangladesh will never succeed in this format and for that we are not even bothered about it. We are a competitive side in oneday format and Team India know it very well as because of BD they were knocked out of two big tournaments in the last 5-6 years. Our fututre is good as we have now put on place the right infrastructures and domestic competitions that has the ability to survive and bring the best from our young talents. Many other Asian countries including Srilanka and Pakistan do not have that market to support the growth of cricket in Asia. Before this t20 fun fare, we were the fianalsit in Asia cup and nearly beaten Pakistan to win it. In 2009/10 we have beaten NeWzealand 4-0. if you doubt, come and play with us more oneday.

Posted by r0ketman on (September 27, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

My earlier comments were not published. I asked two simple questions. Question 1 to Abhishek Purohit - Is it not ironic that you are asking "where is the Pataudi of BD?" when BD has played cricket for only 12 years? India took 30 years (3 generations) to produce a Pataudi after starting Test Cricket. Even then Pataudi was not a product of India's FC system. He played High School Cricket and FC in England before playing for India. His confidence came from being very familiar with the foe, not from being an Indian! The second question is for the person who wrote IRE can Beat BD anywhere, anytime! Really? Are you watching quiddich or cricket? Have you looked at at IRE vs BD record? BD's record against IRE is 5 wins vs 2 losses in ODIs, and 3 wins vs 1 loss in T20, all 3 wins in Dublin! So unless the games are played on hogwarts time, and takes place in Disneyland, IRE can not beat BD anywhere, anytime. Cricinfo please publish this time!

Posted by WickyRoy.paklover on (September 27, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

Mr writer z absolutly spot on.BD FANS LOVE TO REMAIN IN CONSTANT STATE OF DENYL N ISSUSIONS N R SO EASILY MADE TO CONTENT EVEN IF THEIR TEAM LOSES BY 50 RUNS OR 6 WICKTS,THEY Would always say"OH!WE WERE VRY CLOSE",THE LACK OF EXPOSURE,FACILITIES R NTHNG MORE THAN A BIG JOKE N LAME EXCUSES.BD CRICKT LACKS NTHNG BT "TALENT,N SKIL" TO PLAY CRICK.LASTLY,PLZ STP COMPARNG PAK WID BD TEAM,OUR PAK TEAM HAVE NEVR BEEN MINNOWS BT ALWAYS FAVRITS EVEN 4RM START OF WRLD CUPS.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 10:07 GMT)

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Posted by cycloneredwan on (September 27, 2012, 9:49 GMT)

what kind of attitude is this that no matter what a politian does i will still support that politian... lack of gameplay when does that happen? bangladesh team said they have never been better prepared.. but what r u saying.. did NZ lose the match cuz they r unprepared cuz they played only 1 t20 before world cup or they didn't played SLPL like bangladesh did.not our pitch?do u like to be a tiger in your country and cat in somewhere else?didn't we played 7matches in europe, a tri-series in zimbabowe, 6 players in SLPL to adjust?is it not enough?does india/pakistan have bouncy pitch?did shakib ever said i can not hit a six cuz i am not chris gayle?to be responsible our players shouldn't have to look for other team they should look in their own team.how would you feel if u be in shakib's place that i am always doing 110% and others are dropping catches?Do u want to be Kenya/NZ after tikolo/Crowe or do u want to be Aus/SA?the way things r going we will be like Kenya/NZ always struggling

Posted by bdfighter1 on (September 27, 2012, 8:50 GMT)

mr. Purohit has written bla bla bla bla for only gettng the cheap publicity! My jouranalist.!!

Posted by Praxis on (September 27, 2012, 8:43 GMT)

Abhishek Purohit is dead right, though people may find him to be a bit harsh. I am Bangladeshi and not least offended by the fact that this writer have called a spade a spade. In fact, I find it offensive when other fans try patronizing us saying we are developing & should be given more chances. It is infuriating that BD fans have selective memory, they either are happy with some win 5 years ago or blatantly ignore to go back before the last good tournament this team played. Also we are seeing the type of fanaticism where team have lost yet people are happy with a single player's performance.

Posted by cricket_fan_1980 on (September 27, 2012, 7:19 GMT)

I didnt want to say this because I have always wanted to stand by Bengladeshi cricket and always wished for them to finally rise up to their potential, but the time has really come to admit that Ireland and Afghanistan have both done much, much more in much less time to demand Bengladesh's seat on the test cricket table. Bengladesh just has to pull up their game. I am a big fan of Shakib, but he is not that inspirational leader. He is a quality player, like Sachin, but not a true leader who can gel his men into a unit that can take on quality opposition consistently. For that, you need to be fearless in a different way, and guys like Sachin, Shakib etc don't have it. You need guys like Dhoni, Kapil Dev, Sangakarra, Graeme Smith, Martin Crowe etc to really inspire their guys.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 6:39 GMT)

Regarding Bangladesh's performance in this World T20 Number 1 they really didn't do that bad especially for a minnow because they were playing in fast and bouncy pitches, pitches they hardly even play on home or even abroad considering their lack of schedule overseas anyway. But the way a minnow batted on these pitches against Pakistan shows that they can do it whatever the conditions. The major problem with this Bangladesh team is their fast bowling which I honestly admit is even below teams like Ireland or Afghanistan.Also Pakistani spinners couldn't perform that well on these wickets either therefore it was clearly a batting track they were bowling on with a lot of batsman having strike rates of well over 150 some 200. Just watch the Group E S8 matches involving West Indies and you'll see Gayle strike rate well over 200 on this track. But still out of the 4 minnows Bangladesh performed much better but yeah their performance in this tournament was below their standard.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 6:26 GMT)

I do agree with some of the things he said about the mind set of Bangladeshi cricketers...but some people here are just being way too harsh on the bangladeshi team..you can never say ireland/zimbabwe could have done better than bangladesh..Infact,Bangladesh is a lot ahead than the associated teams of ICC but a bit behind from the top 8's..you can find a lot of potential in bangladesh cricket but look at ireland they don't even have what bangladeshi's got....As soon as the Bangladeshis manage to change their mind set and the Infrastructure of domestic cricket(which is already on course)..they have a very good chance to go up there.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

(-) Line ------------ 0 ------- (+) Line

all associate team are in - line and other elite members are in +line. main problem is BD is in 0 position.. some times they go through - and some time + ... In that case we are more talk about bd teams... Also its hurting they can't fix the position.. And lastly BD teams are good in 50 overs game rather than T-20 or Test...

Posted by abhay8157 on (September 27, 2012, 5:51 GMT)

I am sure if Afghans and the BD team have a 5 atch series ... Afghans will beat them with a good margin ... Afghans should play with BD and Zimbabwe ... I don't think the BDs are good enough to maintain their ODI and Test status ... ICC should seriously consider to throw them out....

Posted by riasat49 on (September 27, 2012, 4:07 GMT)

Mr. Purohit, nicely written. As a Bangladeshi I agree with your point of view. Bangladesh lack characters. I am tired of their one good partnership, one good spell or even one good match. I want to see one good year, one good decade.

Posted by Toescrusher on (September 27, 2012, 2:25 GMT)

Bangladesh is a club level side they need serious hard work to have a place in International cricket. At present their cricketing strength is their National enthusiasm for cricket not cricketing skills. They must work hard to establish grass root cricket particularly High School level, College level, University level, City level, and last but not the lease Academy level. If BCB take this challenge and invest their efforts having short term goal and long term goals in mind only then Bangladesh can become cricketing force in International cricket.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 21:05 GMT)

Mr. Abhishek Purohit who make you expert about Bangladeshi supporter ? Bangladesh and Pakistan played last Asia cup final. But in your report you focus only last 2 T20 Match. and zoom out to the world cup . Its hilarious.

Posted by alamgir17 on (September 26, 2012, 21:03 GMT)

Bangladesh have been playing too many games with teams of lower strata. That's why they get intimidated by the presence of big teams. You can't outsmart the big boys every time with that fitness. They're capable of doing miracles now n then but not capable of maintaining the consistency. They still remained boys. They need to think like a man from now on if they want to succeed in future.

Posted by Babu_bd on (September 26, 2012, 20:57 GMT)

The author has expressed the central issue with the Bangladesh team. The team needs resilience. We watch the game by staying whole night only to see they lack patience, seriousness, application and above all mental toughness. This article should be published in the major newspapers in Bangladesh. Really, enough is enough...

Posted by screamingeagle on (September 26, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

I did make the post saying BD does not get enough exposure, hence the delayed growth rate, perhaps. But the comments from some BD fans here bporders on ...being in denial. Like someone actually wrote that beating India or reaching the Asia cup final as achievements. Maybe..but then is that all you aspire for after 13 years. I tend to agree with Mr. Purohit on the fact that the hunger, will to win, self belief , call it whatever you want, lacking in BD players. I do not believe Ireland or AFG are better than BD, but the way things are going, none of these teams will really improve. FTP is a joke, it is more like an elite club...

Posted by Nadeem_rana on (September 26, 2012, 20:10 GMT)

I, as a Pakistani, is delighted that Pakistan has beat BD and reached the next stage. About this particular article, Abhishek Purohit seems to be harsh. He may not be right in some of his points but I think he has written this article in good faith. He may be wrong but I don't think he is biased. Most likely he has more desire for BD to perform better. Regarding Bangladeshi Team's ability, actually we cannot say anything with surety at this stage. Loosing just two matches in T20 does NOT prove Bangladesh is still a very weak side. Bangladesh cricket team proved they are a top class team in last Asia Cup and later also beat New Zealand in home series convincingly. After BD's this brilliant performance in recent months, we cannot jump to the conclusion just because of the results in the last two matches. The best way to judge where Bangladesh cricket is standing now, it should be given enough opportunities to play against the other top class teams in the next few months.

Posted by Siddie on (September 26, 2012, 20:06 GMT)

full member teams like west indies,new zealand,zimbabwe & bangladesh need to improve now especially in test matches...they should start performing consistently or less else teams such as ireland or afghanistan are just about ready to become the next sri lanka...these teams should not be push overs any more...zimababwe & bangladesh have been given enough chances now it is really enough

Posted by Kaare on (September 26, 2012, 19:57 GMT)

@Mohammad_Aziz and hassan_BD: The point is that Bangladesh shouldn't be inviting comparisons with Ireland and Afghanistan, but with the more established teams. The author is probably wrong in thinking that the fans can make much of a difference, but he seems to be right about the fact that a mindset of accepting that wins will be occasional has set into bangladesh cricket. The talent is so clearly on display, that it is not impatient to demand more, or at least to demand that the team shows greater belief in itself

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 19:19 GMT)

Insallah one day Bangladesh will win world cup.keep ur patience.

Posted by Go_Bangladesh on (September 26, 2012, 19:04 GMT)

Well written. As a BD supporter, I accept this report very cordially. We should change our mentality of so called RESPECTED DEFEAT. I hope people will head up reading this article. Thanks!

Posted by S-Matrix on (September 26, 2012, 18:54 GMT)

The satisfaction from bright individual performances, as the author relates, were true ten years ago, in the midst of five winless years and regular innings defeats. But when Dav Whatmore took the reins, he was the answer to Ranatunga or Tiger Pataudi. After that, fans lamented when a close match got away, regardless of Rafique's five-for or Bashar's half-century. And the mentality has sustained through the 2005 English tour, the 29-ODI victories of 2006, the Test against Australia at Fatullah, the first Zimbabwean tour, the 2007 World Cup and, most significantly, the winless year after that (after Whatmore left). The stoning of the bus after WI match was more about surrendering meekly in a crucial and much-hyped World Cup match played at home, rather than long-suppressed pain bursting out. An inferiority complex arises usually after constant defeats. Bangladesh has passed those days. They have won frequently enough since then, against top opposition, to keep it at bay.

Posted by Nadeem1976 on (September 26, 2012, 18:47 GMT)

You take out Shakib and Tamim out of Bangladesh team and they will be become worse than a club team. You cannot win a match or tournament on the basis of one player. You got to build a system and infrastructure and that take lots of time and money which Bangladesh don't have. By calling them tiger they will never become tiger , they got to build a team to conquer the world. It's hard.

Posted by Go_Bangladesh on (September 26, 2012, 18:41 GMT)

@timtom: I can give you tons of example that BD achieved starting from beating Pakistan in 1999. Do you think Afganistan can beat any of the big team now? So comparing Afgan 3 times better than BD is just ....talk. BD scored more than 400 runs in their first test. BD defeated india in another world cup where india score only 191 with their huge batting line up. BD white washed WI in their ground and NZ in BD. So, there are lot of achievements for BD. If you talk about winning WC, England invented cricket, but they never won WC yet, NZ also never won WC yet. When BD joined in World cricket, Zimbabwe was way better than BD. Now, whats Zimbabwe's condition? Think about it. You should understand, in this 13 years, other teams also improved a lot. So dont expect that only BD will improve, and other teams will sit down and see BD is winning the WC...Take care..

Posted by Mohammad_Aziz on (September 26, 2012, 18:35 GMT)

All the Irish, netherlands players are playing in county cricket and the boundary between those country are rather invisible. I dont think and Irish player is termed as foriegn player and play on foreign quota in the county cricket. Even so, Bangladesh atleast can compete to Irish team if not dominate them. And this is just the golden generation of Irish cricket. They are playing cricket for more than a century and this is where they stand. Many soccer team cannot dream of competing Brazil yet they did not stop playing soccer. We are doing bad, and we are hurt for that, do not hurt us more. Our player's may lack in ability but I think they are giving their best shot. And we are improving even if it is not showing in the result. Some of our fans are being cocky only because they dont know how to react.

Posted by hassan_BD on (September 26, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

I find Mr. Abhishek Purohit to be impatient enough. He did not say enough is enough for associate countries. People is talking about Afghanistan; I don't see them coming to 9th position with the existing players. Neither Ireland can do any improvement with existing players - kevin is totally out of sort for a long long time. My point is all the struggling teams can only improve with getting new players. No other teams are getting new players like Bangladesh and every team takes them seriously - this is the only country, in the long term, will challange top teams. But how long it gonna take. at most another 10 years. About one thing I am sure - cricket will never be globalize due to many of the impatient people. It will remain restricted among 9 countries.

Posted by Mohammad_Aziz on (September 26, 2012, 18:24 GMT)

I agree with the writer, we are immatured as a cricketing nation, be it player, jpurnalist or fans. In a test match if we are 200/5 after a day, we expect 200 more from the rest 5 and end up getting 20/5 the next morning(which is quite normal, considering newer ball and eearly morning moisture) and blame our luck. We need to be more matured than that, and trust me, albeit very slowly, that is happening. However, most people trying to prove that Bangladesh is playing so badly after so many years and Ireland or Afganistan are doing so well in a short period of time are saying half truth. The fact is, in Bangladesh, Kenya, Afganisthan, Ireland, Netherlands cricket is a very oldg ame (compare to say USA, china, japan). The cricket are popular in these area and then neighbors are a very good cricket nation. Bangladesh lost more matches to Ireland, holand or Kenya for so long as associate nation. But now at least Bangladesh seems to be better than most of these teams if not Ireland.

Posted by RK204 on (September 26, 2012, 18:05 GMT)

as a bangladeshi i think this is the right time to stop playing cricket here............ bd can't never be a good side....even i guess they will go further down....as a poor country like bd is wasting a lot of money on them....... enough is enough.......

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 18:04 GMT)

Some of you are mentioning the fact that BD is given enough matches against better sides in cricket. I would like to raise a point here, when pakistan invited them to play in pakistan a 3-match one day series; why did BD refuse to play that. May be because BD wanted to play against Aussies or indians. They should grab every opportunity to play against any better side in the cricketing world.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

Bangladesh lacks a strong leadership in its quad alon with a few more talented players of shakib ul hassans calibre. Mushfiqur looks like an emotional person, low on self confidence, and their team is mainly dependent on emotion. They have raw uncut talent, and the bangladeshi team needs to refine itself, and play more matched internationally to gain confidence. from a Pakistani fan

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (September 26, 2012, 17:49 GMT)

An unnecessary article. It is always very easy to point fingers when someone is failing. BD is a very good team and with time and experience they will certainly rise.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

While harsh, I agree with most of the points raised by the writer. Instead of directing our ire towards the writer for bringing up some uncomfortable home truths, we should be channeling this towards our own players for almost always suffering from brain cramps in the big games. We can't just sit on our lone Asian Cup final as proof of 'progress' and attack anyone who dares criticize our Tigers. How many times should we sit through Tamim getting out like a moron for the umpteenth time by flashing at a wide one off the off stump, or watch Mushfiq/Ash/Mahmudullah play a reckless shot and get out, or fielders drop sitters ala Abul Hasan in the game against Pakistan...and most importantly, watch Shakib wage one more lone battle against the current? It's time we started demanding better and more consistent application from our players.

Posted by Jawwad123 on (September 26, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

@EMANCIPATOR007 TOtally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by LunaticTiger on (September 26, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

Dear Mr. A. Purohit,

I am quoting you - "It is time for them to stop celebrating a rare win over a top side like they have won the World Cup. ".... I guess you were sleeping the entire time during the Asia Cup that is much more recent than the last World Cup. Or is it that you guys wanted to forget the experience so much that you were actually successful at that!

Please stay objective when you put your writer hat on and let your horses of crticism loose. I rest my case!

Tiger!

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

Well written. Truth and Reality. We love our team and we want to see them perform like a true tiger, not losing consequently. We know we can, but its taking too long time to happen.

Posted by timtom on (September 26, 2012, 15:21 GMT)

BD fans here shouting of the roof about recent ASIA cup and reaching final..so what !!! first final after umpteen efforts and 13 yrs....Is it that good !!!! SL by that time had a WC.. Cant ever think that BD is going to win a WC ...Come on Guys !!!demand for top result and not medicre results from team..and please stop comparing ur self to other subcontinent team.. Even Afghanistan looks thrice better than BD>>

Posted by timtom on (September 26, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

BD fans are still in denial...Most of them blame the fact that lack of matches with top nations as the main reason.... BD is still playing like when they were introduced early 2000`s.. we are really not missing those early days except that there is one really good player in BD... Batting, bowling, fielding are all stuck on early days...Nothing has improved... A rare victory over a top team is celebrated as if WC final victory... And audacity to compare itself to India/SL or Pak team of 80`s :)) .. Sheer lack of cricketing knowledge....This is exactly what author has mentioned BD as content with failures and mediocrity...same for fans too...Just look at the impact Ireland has made in this very short period...And to think that most of those players do a day job to support their lives..

Posted by ProdigyA on (September 26, 2012, 14:04 GMT)

I completely agree with Abhishek here. I think its all about the belief. The best example is none other than Tamim himself. After the test century at lords against England he has just become a different batsman and his approach that he belong to the top. B'Desh have a living live example in front of them, they dont need to pay anybody from outside to learn this.

Posted by Mazir on (September 26, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

Well Knocking out from an ICC tournament doesn't worth that much of criticism..I will agree with the some part of the article..but the reality is, in cricket teams need the help from condition sometimes..Bangladesh's main strength in bowling is left arn spin..those spinners can be Devastating in slow and low wicket. LET NZ PLAY ON A SLOW AND LOW TURF WITH Bangladesh left arm spinners.. three Brendan Macaalum will prove nothing for NZ

Posted by getsetgopk on (September 26, 2012, 13:36 GMT)

Teams and then good teams are made up of players of substance, in BD team there are only two guys Shakib and Tamim, apart from those two there is simply no one of substance, most their batters know which end of the bat to grab but thats about it and their bowlers know how to bowl but technique wise they dont even exist apart from Shakib again who is infact a so so bowler and a good enough bat. If they can find more players like these two they'll be a good consistent team otherwise they will remain minnows. Have a safe journey back home though.

Posted by salman_0902 on (September 26, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

look what this guy has written. ed by Mamundo on (September 26 2012, 02:02 AM GMT) I think Bangladesh now is similar to Pakistan back in 1987. Bunch of talented but indisciplined players who didn't have the confidence to win. And then a Imran Khan came along...

This is unbelievable. The guy is comparing Pakistan team off 80s with Bangladesh. He has no knowledge of the time that Pakistan was the favourites of that 1987 world cup. Pakistan had Beaten India in India Australia, England and they had a drawn series in West Indies. That's why it was so heart breaking for them losing in semis to Aussies. Pakistan's past cannot be compared to Bangladesh.

Posted by Emancipator007 on (September 26, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

OTT.In past 2 years, Bang has won 4 ODIs against NZ,won against India,SL,Eng,WI & almost won against Pak in Asia Cup final. Nobody is raising the issue that Bang does not get enuf series/games against SA,Eng,OZ. BCCI refuses to host them. They end up playing Zim half the time.SL started improving & toughening considerably in 90s with more tours/games against top sides;won Test series against Pak in'95, performed superbly in tough OZ tri-series cauldron in'96 culminating with '96 World Cup win.Only by playing top-flight cricket regularly will Bang improve. Tamim did superbly against Eng in Eng in'10 but won't tour there till 2020 again!Check FTP and u will see how badly Bangla has been dealt with.And did Bang perfom bad?They batted superbly in this match & were caught in a Baz one-off blinder in another.As poster said,when Bang wins, all quiet, but defeats bring out knives. Encourage rather than fault-find with talented cricketers like Shakib/Tamim/Musfiq/Razak/Zia.

Posted by shams1882 on (September 26, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

@bilalifyful: I think you missed my point. While I agree that BCB is largely to blame for poor domestic structure, but the underlying reason is a socio-economic. BTW in support of my other argument I will ask you name one cricketer with exact similar physical stature of Mushfiq and Ashraful who made it big in modern cricket. T20 cricket is lot more physical than other formats and that's why you see likes of Watson, Gayle and Pollard at the top. While you need mental strength you also need power to clear boundaries frequently in T20 which most BD players can't. And why do you think Zia is in the team? While there are mal-nourished people in the neighbouring countries, their cricketing facilities are much better as they have long tradition of cricket. Going back to socio-economic argument, I will ask how many Olympians India and Pakistan produced despite having 1/6 th of the population? The point is there is a high correlation between economic well being and sports performance.

Posted by Indraneel.Kundu on (September 26, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

I have noticed that most Bangladeshi players are willing to experiment too quickly, even when things are going their way. Bangladesh needs a leader. They also need to play more tests and take it seriously. Win a test against a quality opposition and you will take a quantum leap in cricket. Coming back to leadership, Shakib, Mushfiqur, Mortaza, Ashraful; none of them are natural leaders. Tamim Iqbal is. He hasn't realized it yet. He has the game, he has the controlled aggression. He has to have the will to lead. And don't make the mistake of dropping Ashraful again. He will get there. He needs others to believe in him, more than believing in himself.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

You can not compare Bangladesh with Sri Lanka. Cricket was always played in Sri Lanka but I clearly remember the days when Bangladesh was East Pakistan, and not one single player was from East Pakistan. Cricket was only played in Lahore and Karachi. Even Sialkot's on Zaheer Abbas was raised in Karachi, and Mianwali's son Imran Khan in Lahore. On the other hand I remember Pak-SL unofficial test in Karachi 1973-74, Seneviratne scored 98 n.o. to be followed by havoc from the two spinners both named D'Silva. Plus their fielding was unbelievable. To be a good fielder, you need to be paid well because it is a thankless job. Nobody keeps you in team for being a good fielder, and the risk of injuries to end your career is high.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

I am from Bangladesh and not a NEW so called cricket fan. I played fast class cricket in the early 90's and have been following international cricket for quiet sometimes. I must say that the author who wrote this article is a genius in his analysis. If i were to say he is 99% right, I would be wrong. Thank you for writing such a wonderful article! Sometimes constructive criticism may sound harsh butits for the better good. I want Bangladesh cricket to flourish in future as most fans here are die hard who cherish every moment of cricket with their hearts and souls.

Posted by Haleos on (September 26, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

@wiinners - why blame India for your failures? India's bowling may be worse but it was good enough to bowl out the world's no 1 team within 15 overs. The kind of brain freeze ur players have, they wont last long enough to win.

Posted by cycloneredwan on (September 26, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

and don't try to compare with someone's cricket history?things are very fast now,u don't send message by pigeons or post office now.u do it in seconds.u have so much technology,money,infrastructure then why on earth u would excuse that u need time like india/srilanka?two hands are enough for a person if he develops other hand of excuse he will never do good?.why do we get so satisfied overnight?.this irrational attitude will become a disease what we will pay badly for?..ministers doing this with country,we do this with eachother, now our cricketers keep doing this?..our people live in so much poverty,villages r not getting proper education,even after that we pay so much money in cricket?what for?satisfaction and sorry?are we ravaged country like afganistan?or does our cricketer have to work else beside playing?don't we have field?what is our lackage?For how long we need to cover our failure by throwing mud to others? will this give us WORLD CUP? why can't we correct and be responsible?

Posted by praveen4honestremark on (September 26, 2012, 12:15 GMT)

@Rafiuddin Ahmed on (September 26 2012, 10:02 AM GMT)...Tell me any one in your media who had guts to put the real truth like Abhiheshk has put here. He was little too harsh but doesn't mean he is wrong.He said how BD cricket has been and what is improvement.??Don't name me as critic here. I have already mentioned some points on improvement of BD cricket. If some one has put facts for improvement of BD cricket then he is your enemy...be in the cave Mr. Rafiuddin.

Posted by screamingeagle on (September 26, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

Ok, BD has been awful. But instead of screaming demote them of test status and such, why don't the other teams organise series with them? I mean proper series with tests and one dayers. Let the guys play and gain in confidence and experience. Sure, they may get thrashed in the beginning but things will improve. But please do not degrade a team by making them play only a few matches a year and say they do not improve. I am an Indian and I do remember how pathetic our team was in overseas tours. My only advise to Mr. Purohit is to try and look at the facts and not make strange write ups like this one.

Posted by kafeelnouman on (September 26, 2012, 12:01 GMT)

i couldn't understand why bangalies are so pationate about there cricketers they are totally westing there time n money in cricket they have stablished modren big grounds just to see their team's thrashing.they pay in dollars to foreign catches they just get rare wins in blue moon? they pay their players in millions just to see them doing mistakes n drop catches like club players.i suggest bangladesh govt: to please invest this money on poor peaple of bangladesh don't west it on cricket please.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 12:00 GMT)

I have read most of the comments.Some crazy guys have mentioned that BD team has lack of willingness to win the match.And the reporter has written that our playing has been mediocre. Yes, there are so many drawback in our BD team to reach that level.But the main thing is we are a good team. We need scope to prove ourselves. Top eight team has been playing both test & ODI against each others. What about Bangladesh? No, they don't want to play against us.We didn't play any test for almost one year. Is it our fault? We have played like a top team in the Asia cup. Since then how many chance we got to play against top 8 team? Seems to me everything is like if Bangladesh win over top team then its a miracle & if loose then its normal. You people should have shame who are against BD team because SAKIB AL HASAN is the only player who has been the no. 1 all-rounder both in TEST & ODI. How many matches he has got to play? & how many you people have? IF YOU HAVE GUTS THEN COME & PLAY AGAINST US.

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (September 26, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

BD IS ORDINARY TEAM,AFGHAN AND IRELAND R BETTER THAN BD.BD'S WIN OVER IND AND SL WERE FLUKE.....THEY BEAT TOP TEAMS ONCE IN A BLUE MOON...

Posted by kaidranzer on (September 26, 2012, 11:52 GMT)

Ordinary players. Ordinary team.

Posted by cycloneredwan on (September 26, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

my fellow BD supporters..be reasonable..don't try to be over emotional or show ur patriotism by just supporting blind..if u guys keep doing this u will harm our progress..if u don't correct someone, criticize someone that person will never know how to do well, what is his duty?..professionalism comes when u accept ur mistake and keep improving day by day..our players should always think like that..look at SHAKIB... did u hear any promises like Asraful about him?... was he under-19 captain?.. or did he became the best under-19 player?.. no and he need not to?.. because he keep performing and improving everyday?...4 yrs after debut he became no1 and he is still no.1. Its time for our player to understand they need to win.. dropping catch of mccullam and nazir?..what is this?..does professional teams do that?..afganistan did that cuz they r new? what was our problem?..why do our player still play on boundaries, why not on single?..who will do that for them? the supporters

Posted by Rafelgibt on (September 26, 2012, 11:31 GMT)

Such an unnecessary criticizing reports......I really don't know what's the reason of writing this sort of thoughts......We are improving day by day (with less help from ICC and others) is that not VISIBLE enough???You are questing about our TEST status but don't you get that in every 2 match series we almost win (loss with a very marginal line) against the big teams.......We got full membership only for 12 years.......By this time didn't we prove that we can play good cricket and future of cricket in ASIA lies with BANGLADESH and INDIA......If you fail to admit this then it's ok but kindly don't make this unrealistic and inappropriate allegations against us....And if you think IRELAND is better than us then go ahead give them TEST Status and let's see how far do they go in next 10 years (My best wishes are always with the associate countries and will be)......

Posted by eZoha on (September 26, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

A Bangladeshi fan here. We should have a reality check and should not rejoice every single win like we do. It is more than 12 years since we got Test status. We have not progressed as much as we should have. Cricketers, specially the top ones in BD are earning a huge amount of money each year. They are showered with rewards when we win against a top team. But, come on guys, we are supposed to win against top teams consistently by now, right? I completely agree with Mr. Purohit's last line that we can attempt to find out by raising our own standards. And some comments here from non-BD fans, like one from Legaleagle, are just rubbish. They have no idea what they are talking about.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

Brilliant article.As a Bangladeshii,one would regret most of the things said here but this the writer does have a point.Being capable of winning just wont be enough at this stage.Bangladesh have had too many of `hard fought losses`.Its time they start performing.They have so much experience now,but where are the good results?Bangladesh fight hard and even come close on a number of occasions but thats not enough.Even Afghanistan,Ireland play with the same spirit,so whats the difference?

Posted by Legaleagle on (September 26, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

Well written piece!! I want to congratulate Abhishek for pointing the obvious here. Any comparisons about the time taken to win the first test is NOT a bench mark for Bangladesh here. They have had a great infrastructure for cricket in East Pakistan, and then they re-entered the cricketing fold unlike other countries who started from scratch.

If England took 100 years to win their first match that doesn't mean Bangladesh should also take that much time. The times have changed!! If you have talent then prove it!!

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

Win or lose Bangladeshis are 100% supportive of the team, therefore totally disagree with the article. I would rather say, enough is enough stop these sort of articles. I will be surprised even if my comment is considered to be published, considering now a days anything and everything seems have a tendency to be controlled by "whatever we do is best" sort of mentality. Elites should remember nobody watches NFL except us viewers. Cricket should go that way?

Posted by Akif.Khan on (September 26, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

Come on Abhishek, give BD some time to mature in this specific format and I believe that they will raise to the occasion. How can we forget their ODI renaissance, didnt BD beat the current and past WOrld Champs with ease and came so close to lift the Asia Cup? the Kiwis white wash. In T20 they will soon stop the critics as they both have the passion and the potential.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

Asian pithes r generally spin oriented.Bd brought spinners for this tounament.but tell me why elias sunny was dropped only after one match failure?and why is shafial retained even after disasterous matches?why is rahman being considered only as a batsman while he is bowling allrounder?moreover over belief in left arm spinners is also a main reason of BD failure in all format.

Posted by DMK-XI on (September 26, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

Well, the article is good enough for BD to eye their weaknesses, cheering every small achievement is good but on the other hand you have to punish for their lacking, they are not playing as a team rather there are individuals who perform, and it will never earn BD victories over good sides.

Posted by Benzim on (September 26, 2012, 10:49 GMT)

Fantastic & spot on. Thanks to Abhishek Purohit .

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (September 26, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

I agree Bangladesh should have done much better than this but considering this pitch was batting friendly fast and high bounce and had nothing for spin bowlers, it was obvious they would struggle to win games. Bangladesh doesn't play on these sort of wickets. But I still strongly feel that on slow low wickets with some turn, Bangladesh can give anyone a game but yeah overseas, there's a big gap for Bangladesh.

Posted by SJRN on (September 26, 2012, 10:46 GMT)

They need more quality players sir, as simple as that. And yes, a strong leader, both for the team and the board, who can induce the thought in their team and their that they can do much better than they are doing at present. They do have the potential,as evidenced by their performance in the recently concluded Asia cup and even in this match. Their passion and sentiments should be appreciated. All the best guys

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (September 26, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

@Lajber Ali - lool Nice Joke! If Bangladesh were scared to face Afghanistan then why did they thrash them at the Caribbean the other week? If you want Bangladesh to play Afghanistan then stop behaving silly you could be lucky if Bangladesh invites Afghanistan for a short ODI series because the other teams will of course not :)

Posted by Legaleagle on (September 26, 2012, 10:44 GMT)

Bangladesh can play as much cricket they want to play but the fact remains that they are incompetent bunch of players.

They are NOT GOOD ENOUGH to play more cricket. This is an excuse to cover frailties. This team has to show some promise in order to become a playable country. How did other countries manage to play more cricket? Look at Ireland- they don't have any excuse. Look at Afghanistan- they don't even have facilities and look at their guts. Bangladesh has NEVER shown any promise. They have won 2 games in last 15 years- one in World Cup and one in Asia cup. Forget about New Zealand series at home.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (September 26, 2012, 10:37 GMT)

BD achieved test status based on BCCI's lobbying...there wasn't a godfather for Ireland to get test status even if they have better performances.So sad.

Posted by sharifk on (September 26, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

People who are criticizing the author and being very defensive here are the type of people in Bangladesh are part of the serious problem here. Author has done an excellent job identifying the real problem of the team, and it's not lack of talent or skills, but it's the confidence and the leadership to bring out the best of intrinsic desires to win. Performance of sports depends 50% on skills and the other 50% are mental game. I have tried to explain this in BanglaCricket, and most of the fans didn't get it. Nor do the Bangladeshi sports journalists have any clue. So when Abhishek has identified the right causes and praised our players' skills, most people are after him. He has done a big favor. If you don't understand, please keep yourself quiet, if you will. Thanks Abhishek for the wonderful job.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

bangladesh got thrashed by both newzeland and pakistan and i am still surprised to hear from mushfiqr tht "we hav nothing to loose"...it is that attitude in them that is preventing them to reach greater heights

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 10:02 GMT)

There are a number of comments from people from Pakistan. I appreciate that they have some encouraging suggestions to Bangladesh Team. I have observed Abhisheke to write very critical and irritating comments about Bangladesh team. Instead of becoming a sports reporter, Abisheke can choose to become a critique. I recall India's humiliating loss to West Indies after 1987 world cup. One of the cartoons in an Indian magazine read as, "forgive us father Lloyd, we won't take the world cup again" (maf korede Lloyd Baap, aar nebona Bisha cup- in Bengali). It was Gavasker, Dilip Vengarker, Kapil Dev, Mahinder Amarnath era that I am referring to. Bangladesh hasn't played that bad yet given the age of our cricketing history. It is not that BD team doesn't deserve to win but the fact that other teams have toppled BD team in their learning rates. BD team will still have to find everything in its players: height, stature, stamina, skills, attitude, self belief, and team morale. It takes time indeed.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 10:01 GMT)

Only way to progress forward is to visit places like India,Pakistan,Sri Lanka and invite Afghanistan often. Play more cricket with test sides, but due to political reasons they have refused to play with Pakistan.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 9:52 GMT)

BD is scared to have matches with Afghanistan as they beleive they are gonna lose. They do not have the habit to win and I am agree with Shahwaiz Ahmed that we Afghan and the Ireland team are better then BD!!!Come BD and accept the challenge and play with us (Afghan) the new shinning team to decide your future..

Posted by saifur.raffael on (September 26, 2012, 9:47 GMT)

@Abhishek Purohit ..man to say the truth its actually time for u guys to stop pointing the world our every defeat and always criticizing Bangladesh in our defeats...do u guys sleep when we guys win matches in asia cup to knock champs like (india,srilanka) out...u guys dont seem to write any motivational article for the tigers then ......we have already whitewashed newzealand a full strength side with 12 years of our odi status by then until now we have been successful in beating top sides often not rare......still our country is in the process of making a good infrastructure for the first class cricket ..so if bangladesh still do the same thing after probably 7-8 years then u can actually criticize bd cricket team..not now ...and as far as we r celebrating wildly in our every win is Because we bangladeshi people love this country n its players a lot more than other countries....

Posted by bilalifyful on (September 26, 2012, 9:40 GMT)

@shams1882: I disagree with your comments. Its Bangladesh Cricket Board's responsibility to ensure the domestic structure is good enough to deliver cricketers that are strong physically and mentally. Pakistan and India both have ample mal-nourished population too, that is such a lame excuse. Comparing Mushfiq's size to that of other cricketers is even more absurd. Cricket is not just a physical sport, it requires mental strength more so than physical. I can name a lot of cricketers who despite being physically smaller in size, make one hell of a t20 player.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 9:36 GMT)

@Mudaser thye refuse to play at Pakistan becaue the b0mbs go off. You cannot protect Silankan crickerters hwo can you protect Bd?

Posted by Hammad-Hasan on (September 26, 2012, 9:33 GMT)

Bangladesh doesnt lack talent, they lack in mental toughness. There is only one player in BD team who beleive that they can defeat any team in the world and that is Shakib. The rest dont have confidence on their abilities.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 9:31 GMT)

People need to understand that this team hardly even play Cricket I mean almost end of 2012 and have only played 4 ODIs and still 0 Test matches says everything whereas the rest i.e. Sri Lanka have played 29 ODIs and 6 Test matches. Bangladesh, Zimbabwe etc don't really play Cricket and just fill up the ranks a very low profile sport Cricket is.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 9:28 GMT)

It is really a pathetic piece of writing from a biased indian writer (at least the name of the writer suggested so). Only because Bangladesh is underperforming in a particular type of Cricket: T20, you cannot just undermine all of Bangladesh's successes. I admit BD's performance in T20 is just not up to the mark...but that does not deny the fact to any extent that BD is a very good ODI team. I am pretty sure that the fact that India got kicked out by BD in the Asia Cup had left a deep bruise in Abhishekh Purohit's heart which made him waste not a single moment to start writing this overly biased and judgmental piece of crap.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

Enough is enough can Australia say that all International Cup is ours. No the day is changed. No one can say I am the best. On his day anyone can be hero or 00. BD always underdog. I am not saying group D is group of death. Not even Bangladeshi fan say it than who? The world say it. No one invincible today. I am a big fan of Pak but I am proud to be a Bangladeshi….

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

I can only laugh the way Bangladesh is termed as a team. A team which can be termed as a group of street cricketers who have been thrown in international arena and given so many chances and yet they decline to improve. Then the age old complaint of not given enough chances. Teams like Pakistan and India were given less than 5% of the matches that Bangladesh has been given, in their earlier years and they started delivering. Bangladeshi fans must come to the reality. Playing Asia cup final got into their head and they even refused to play in Pakistan which is a One Day World Cup Champion, T20 World cup champion, 5 world cup semi finals, 2 T20 world cup semi finals. Get realistic, you need to put your heads together. Crying over loosing Asia cup final... do you remember that...?? For God's sake. You should be thankful to All Mighty even to get to that stage. World class teams like Pakistan, Australia, England, India, South Africa have consistenly improved. Hope some of you would listen!!

Posted by shams1882 on (September 26, 2012, 8:17 GMT)

I only agree partially with Abhishek Purohit about the mentally of the players, supporters, media etc., there is a flip side of the coin which no one cares to look at. With half of the population mal-nourished, hardly any modern facilities for playing cricket in most part of the country and where playgrounds are disappearing faster than a blink of an eye, where you don't make a dime unless you make into the national team - to me it is a miracle that BD is still producing some wins albeit hyphenated by long spaces. Cricket today is game of physique, T20 is even more so. Just compare likes of Mushfiq and players in the NZ team where average height is 6'4" or more... every time BD players take field it is a literal enactment of David vs Goliath situation. And that is why Mushfiq will end up being caught at boundary in his endeavour to get a six whereas likes of Gayle, Watson, Lukerihgt, Yuvraj will get mistimed sixes at ease. To me it is a tale of socio-economic disparity not mentality.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

now BD have to think about playing in Pakistan and I can't understand why they refuse to play in Pakistan?

Posted by EngineerKhan on (September 26, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

I totally agree with author. We are tired of seeing BD getting opportunities and still not getting any substantial out of it

Posted by wiinners on (September 26, 2012, 7:40 GMT)

I've been to lanka to watch BD-NZ match and so many others! We all believed that BD can win against anybody. All r reporters believed we''ll win.That's why we went there spending our money! In 1 day match we r no.2 and almost won against Pak. The so called well wishers really do not say the right things! They do not ask India or ICC for making busy scedules 4 BD, saying, 'Luk this team has talented players, big suport and pasion 4 their kricket, infrustctur, huge commercial potential!". After Asia Cup we couldn't play a single match against the test playing countries! But critics like purohit do not let a single chance to go wnever BD looses a match! He aparently pretends to be a well wisher of BD, but in fact, rather than paving our way towards betterment, he is scolding BD. In fact I have always seen positive remarks from Pakistan about BD cricket; if India and BD plays 5 1dayers the teams that bats 2nd will win the majors as India's bowling is worse among all test playing team

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 7:33 GMT)

Bangladesh should be stripped of Test status. Even Ireland and Afghanistan are much more deserving than these chaps.

Posted by Baundele on (September 26, 2012, 7:31 GMT)

@HJ_verdict, Pakistan is a security issue, the ICC did not provide a security clearance. So, it is not a valid example of how you have used it. In fact, Pakistan denied to play against Bangladesh in the UAE.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 7:22 GMT)

The mentality is the difference.

Shakib despite brilliant bowling and batting was quite annoyed at every mistake he and his team mates made, he was on top of himself always self analytical

People like Abul Hasan got two free wickets and celebrating as if he has done something when in reality done nothing. They need to stop finding false victories in the defeat and shoot for the real wins.

Also BD clearly didn't do their homework this match. Any bit of videos of Imran Nazir would show he loves consistent short bowling you have to keep it full then throw him the odd short delivery so he impulsively goes after it and gets out because no control.

Feed him (or afridi) all deliveries in same area and they will pummel you.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

I can't deny that we are overwhelmed even by the smallest of wins.But the fact that we can't improve without playing against the top teams is equally true.We are over-reliant on spin.We lack the supply of good pacers because they aren't chosen by the domestic teams.The wickets are not at all helpful.Despite these facts we have potential.The writer is saying the truth that we can't be satisfied with these kinds of results.And we can't allow the mentality Abul Hasan showed after taking Imran Nazir's wicket.Self belief is much more needed in our players.And mostly we need a better infrastucture.

Posted by Haleos on (September 26, 2012, 7:17 GMT)

@saishenoy - world beaters? The term can be used when the team has defeated top teams consistently. Not once in a blue moon. Read the article with open mind and not as criticism. Shakib is a world class player but thats all. Tamim is a waste of talent like afridi. Afridi atleast has become an excellent bowler. Barring Shakib most of the players lack maturity. Dont support the team blindly. We would love to see Bangladesh become one of the top sides. But it is high time they start performing now given the talent they have. It is not like a kenyan team bangladesh do have serious talent.

Posted by jabbar2012 on (September 26, 2012, 7:12 GMT)

Just want to reiterate - to emphasise the point: BANGLADESH NEEDS TO PLAY MORE CRICKET - to improve their play.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 7:11 GMT)

Bangladesh need consistency as well as one two quality fast bowler. Mashrafe is not enough. He can't do anything on dead pitch. Zimbabwe had Heath Streak in their side which was one of the major factor to make them a competitive side.

Posted by HJ_verdict on (September 26, 2012, 7:00 GMT)

I fail to understand bangladesi fans saying bigger teams do not want to play with them. Who restricted you to visit Pakistan for last 2 years and how many more matches can you have with SL. Pakistan is eager to have cricket at its home soil and you are desperate to have cricket with them. Minnows will remain minnows untill they do something abt it

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

consistency is what BD lack. We can remember how BD fans talking after asia cup. but they havent managed to win a single match in this WC. As a matter of fact, BD have never won a major tournament since they started playing cricket. It is poor excuse saying that BD is not given enough chances. you have to admit that BD havent make the full use of the chances they have been given, like this WC. Being a very ordinary team, you can't expect from ICC to give you tournaments with good teams. BD got to work really hard and improve their quality of cricket and then you will be playing more cricket with other good teams.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

As a cricker lover , Dear all please clear your minds. BD team playing well in all the match against my homeland Pakistan, just few things which are bad for BD team. Rest of the things are very very positive for them, A confident Start of the Bating , Fantastic shots against all three world class bowlers, perfect average to give a target, a full range of bating shots which played by any world class batsman, no a single bad thing in whole bating till the last ball of inings, Bowling not a bad , they choose very good line & length , Fielding have just 2 questions regarding drop chances , rest of the fielding a maximum effort, some time 99 % positive game not change the results" But" one or two bad moments change the whole results, I think thats happend with BD Team, Welldone BD team its a great effort, you will the game till the 30/40 overs in the match. Just need a time or experience you will be a world class Cricket team Very soon,,,Keep it up , you have good time very near....Bye

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

I didn't like the article and it's too harsh on a team that's improving day by day. I believe we should introduce a new full ICC member in every 10 years and provide them with enough opportunity o join the mainstream so that we get more countries playing cricket all over the world.

Posted by arsixi on (September 26, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

bangladeshi played well but enough is ENOUGH for bangladesh as a pakistani fan i say that bangladesh not play so good in my opinion ....pakistan team bowling is not so good last 3 or 5 matches they concied many runs but i am to see that pakistan batting is now improving ..pakistan need to rested umar gul and sohail tanvir in for abdul razzaq and junaid khan .if pakistan going with this bowling in super8 then pakistan loses all matches.pak have to ready for final before final against india .pak must win against india.good luck team pakistan

Posted by Team-Ahmed on (September 26, 2012, 6:41 GMT)

@Vasi-Koosi You are wrong to say Ban don't have a Brendon, Afridi, Mahi or Hussy type player. Shakib is among the best players of current time and so is Tamim. The matter is it's a team game and these players are needed to be supported by their team mates by good performances. Stop celebrating minor achievements. Dream for big and you'll get big. The way Abul Hasan was celebrating his wickets show the mentality of the players an it's supporters. Finding success in defeats will not get you anywhere.

Posted by praveen4honestremark on (September 26, 2012, 6:38 GMT)

Bangladesh team lacks consistency and motivation which is very important in cricket when playing at higher level. BD's first victory against in ODI's against test playing nation was in 1999, and second win was in 2004 against India. A gap of 5 years. It is very big. Consistency for BD team can be achievable when can play matches with domestic teams of other countries , a 5 day match would do. I would advice India and Australia as best places as here there is huge competition in cricket, so when you enter there you will be like entering a sea from a river. Captains should be given freedom to express and improve leadership and you don't get that under non-subcontinental coaches for Bangladesh. You can get only get under sub-continental coaches as they as hail from same sub-continent will know you better in terms of pshyclogy and help improve team and leadership in BD team. Do this for 2 years atleast and later you can go with any other coaches and plans.- Indian.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 6:33 GMT)

@Sukalpa Mimma Do not compare Bangladesh to India, Pakistan, England and South Africa and New Zealand. Bangaldesh has no standard. India has given great batting legends Like sachin, Dravid and Laxman. Pakistan has given Bowling legends Waqar, Wasim, Imran Khan and Saqlian. Winning world isn't everything. All teams have won test series in early 50s and has been winning series since. What has Bangladesh achieved? win over India in Asia cup and world cup? just two matches, win over Pakistan in world cup in a dead rubber match?. Those wins probably mean alot to Bangladeshi fans but in term of performance they mean nothing. Srilanka didn't have test status till 1981 and they won their first series in 85, that is how team should respond when they get test status. How has Bangladesh respond? win every 5 year orso . There is no reason to defend this Bangladesh team. They don't deserve test status, if they can have test status with that miserable record then other minows should have tst status

Posted by mtalhas on (September 26, 2012, 6:33 GMT)

there should be more series like triangular or quadrangular. the trend has finished now which existed till 90s and somewhat till early 2000s. the series should include all types of nations. tests should also be played regularly. if the national teams are unavailable for tests to be played with associates then why not increase the games with the A or B teams. every 2 years we have a t20 world cup in which there are only 8 teams playing and every one knows who those teams are. the concept of even a world cup is questionable now. we have moved on from the 1900s where only a handful nations used to play regular cricket.

Posted by captainzaibee on (September 26, 2012, 6:24 GMT)

Well, blaming BD so heavily for losing a game is not understood at all.Pak team in t20 is extremely dangerous.On such a batting paradise only the writer of this artcile can write off pak and blame BD alone for the defeat. I bet any team playing against Pak will have pressure as pak has that once they play against india.i am sure BD had a lot of pressure coz they knew that they will be playing against a team which played two finals and one semi final of t20 world cups and then they will have to beat that team with a specific margin to go ahead.evyone in the world has high expectations from Pak (seeing their previous record and the present form) that is why probably mushfiq ur raheem said that they had nothing to lose coz level of expectations from Pak are much much higher as compared to BD.Remember, if its a day of players like imran nazir, shewag, dilshan and many others like them then what ever the opposition may be it will get destroyed... @ Abhishek... plz dont be that rude to BD

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:54 GMT)

@ Afsana Shums Orchee WELL SAID... no really WELL SAID... the author keeps on mentioning the world cup HELLO!!! have you forgotten about ASIA cup, how we beat INDIA and SRI LANKA and we almost had PAKISTAN, 1 more run and that FINAL would have been a draw.... we just do not have that kind of strong bawling @ the moment!! but I still believe in BD and I will keep on believing in them... going back to Afsana's point.... our players work hard but they don't get enough International one days... how in the world are they going to improve? yet when they come out and beat teams like India and Sri Lanka in a row that tells me our young players are not odinary... they got great protentials... they just need more international games... so yes instead of complaining and not giving us games... it would help if your so called "top sides" play more games against us instead of playing each other, so that our young players can grow as a team and get more experience...

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:51 GMT)

Its been 13 yrs since Bangladesh has been inducted in the big league...apart from few mercurial performances...it has always been never ending abysmal run by the team...Major results have been in the ubiquitous passive sub-continent wickets...Its high time to get over with the honeymoon period...To be blunt and honest I feel team was inducted prematurely and too much have been spent to build a team which never seen coming...Ireland Scotland Holland and "Afganistan" to be honest deserve much more from ICC and other cash rich boards...Its time to stop celebrating "Mediocrity"...

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

All bangladeshi fan please read this article and try to understand what the writer tried to say...I dont see anything that was said against our team and supporter....All he said is not negative but all negatives to get the positives of the team.....We need to praise our team when they do well and need to criticize too when they do bad....and stop all overwhelming reactions to small number of wins if we believe that we r improving and a better side....

Posted by bored_iam on (September 26, 2012, 5:35 GMT)

@Mazidul Alam: This team KEEPS getting the 2-3 years! The issue is they remain over-reliant on Shakib & Tamim. They lost DESPITE these two coming to the party. Which means they still not good enough! They remain a bunch of no-hopers DESPITE these two world-class cricketers.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:30 GMT)

It will be Interesting to find out how much time teams like India, South Africa or Srilanka took before they won a test match or a major even after they started playing international cricket. i think Srilanka might have took least time when they won the 96 world cup.

Posted by fr600 on (September 26, 2012, 5:29 GMT)

It surely takes time for improvement. India took decades so did Pakistan and many other countries. Bangladesh should be allowed to play more test matches, it's unfair what ICC did to the test schedule.

Posted by saishenoy on (September 26, 2012, 5:28 GMT)

Sri Lanka was in a similar situation at the start of the 1990s as Bangladesh is now. But they received a lot of exposure at Sharjah playing against India and Pakistan, winning and getting to the next level. In 1996 what separated them from India/Pakistan was their electric fielding, explosive fearless batting at the top and excellent spinners. Bangladesh has these qualities, although recently their fielding has taken a hit. However, Tamim, Rahim, Shakib, Hossain, Mahmuddulah, Razzak are world beaters in their own rights. Not many teams in world cricket can boast of such a great core. They should totally give a chance to top performers in the BCL and build a young team for the shorter format. Make Ash and Mash specialist test players, although Mash won't even last 5 days with his fitness.

Posted by PakCricSpin on (September 26, 2012, 5:27 GMT)

I think bangladesh have improved a lot. I did not even consider it a small team in Group D. I feel they are on a precipice. Any day now they will win against a major team. And that would be the beginning. They are getting really close.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

with shakib bengladesh is one man army

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

I am an Indian but crazy to watch Bangladesh cricket !! Only having talented players in side is not enough to win big matches. It is very important for the captain to use the resource available in the best possible manner. This is where Musfiquer Rahim is lacking as compared to Dhoni. Specially while bowling Musfiq makes horrible mistakes. Even though pitch was not supporting spinners, still Musfiq should have given Razaq the new ball immediately after Mortaza and Shaiful Islam went for runs. But he prefered continuing with them and leaked runs. Razaq and Shakib with their experience could have checked the run and created pressure. I think what Bangladesh need to do urgently is change the captain. Mortaza or Sakib are better captains. Or atleast Tamim should be given captaincy. Anyways thanks to Bangladesh cricket for always making cricket exciting to watch...(from a great fan of Bangladesh cricket in India)

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:13 GMT)

ICC is also responsible in this regard. Why don't they have more tournaments and series involving teams like Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Ireland and Afghanistan. They only seem to appear in World cups.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

Pakistan will lose all it's super 8 matches insha allah

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:05 GMT)

I do not usually comment on cricinfo as for the maximum people(sub-continent fans) here, only their country can play "cricket" and others are just teams who are only qualified to play street crickets. But as a Bangladeshi cricket follower I must say after reading this article that THIS IS VERY NEGATIVE. Bangladeshi cricketers have all the talent in the world and I think many will agree with me on that, but all they lack is Experience. Give this team another 2 to 3 years and for sure this team will surprise you all and This team will be ranked beside Pakistan, India and Sri-lanka

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 5:04 GMT)

This article is excessively harsh. The author has conveniently forgotten the stirring performances that BD displayed during the recent Asia Cup. You can't argue that the boys lacked belief if they managed to beat teams like India and Sri Lanka. I agree that we need to unearth some more world class players but if we establish a proper first-class system, along with pitches to promote the development of fast bowling (which we severely lack), then theres no limits to what we can achieve. I also think that you can't judge their performance on a format that is at times, a lottery. Reserve that for the premier formats of tests and ODI's.

Posted by sharifk on (September 26, 2012, 5:00 GMT)

I completely agree with Abhishek here. It is the lack of leadership and self-confidence. Unfortunately, as good of cricketers Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiq are, none of the three, nor even another member of the current squad, is that confident leader. From a few interviews, it seemed Mashrafe understood what it would take to win games and he sounded very optimistic. But he is no longer able to compete in all three formats.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

cricket_all_the_way i think u don't have any proper knowledge about cricket. Ireland just beat Bangladesh 2 times. BD whitewash Ireland in Bd ( Odi) and in ireland (T20). Ireland wining ratio with Bd is 28% and Against Zimbabwe is 30%. If Ireland play 3/4 days match against Bd or zim they never can beat them for sure. There is a big difference between test and one day.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:45 GMT)

well I would beg to differ. Bangladesh are a very talented side but their fast bowling department needs more than just mashrafe. The only way for Bangladesh to succeed is to have more opportunities against top flight teams in bilateral series. but well played today and best of luck. A Pakistani fan.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:42 GMT)

Lack of quality fast bowlers, over-reliance on one brand of spin, talented but unreliable batsmen, poor fielding. In the end, it must come down to that one word. Belief.

OMG!!! I can find India instead of Bangladesh.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:41 GMT)

Bangladesh wining ratio against New Zealand is 29% and 25% against West indies. If you take last 10 years stats then its 50-50 ratio with these two teams. Bangladesh is not getting similar facilities which New Zealand and West Indies enjoying. Bangladesh can challenge anybody in their home ground and can beat at least one time if they play 3/4 games. Last Asia cup Bangladesh beat both India and Sri Lanka comprehensively and lost the final in just 2 runs. What happen since than? They don't play any international match last 6 months. They even need to go to play to Jamaica Trinidad local teams to prepare for world T20. How you expect regular performance when they are not getting regular matches. They play test in every 7-8 months and everybody is asking them to performance like a regular team. All people give the blame to BD cricketers but ICC and other countries also need to give them support, facilities specially more games to develop. otherwise it will remain same after 10 years.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:30 GMT)

Well being from Pakistan, we have always supported Bagladeshi team (apart from matches with Pakistan of course). Talents like Tamim Iqbal and Shakib are world class and all they need is support from their team. Bangalis are bit like Pakistanis and I know this from experience. They are carefree which bring that flare in their cricket but most of the times leads them to be overconfident. The same has been problem with Pakistan. And I do agree with Afsana that Bangladesh should get most opportunities. Pakistan does play series in Bangladesh on regular basis but India and Srilanka also has to take steps

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 4:25 GMT)

Give us chance to play with big teams regularly we will play better cricket obviously.

Posted by jango_moh on (September 26, 2012, 4:17 GMT)

as an indian fan, i think the author was pretty harsh.... BD is def improving, they just need that spark to win a few matches(beating a few good teams), and i thikn they'll be on their way... one thing i agree with the author about, is that BD needs to believe they can win....

Posted by mrgupta on (September 26, 2012, 4:13 GMT)

@ Afsana Shums Orchee: Not pulling down Bangladesh but i remember when in 2007 WC BD defeated India and went on to play the next league of the tournament it was touted as having come of age and in another 4-5 years it will be world beaters. Forget about Test Matches, BD has been playing ODIs since 1988 and T20 since everyone else. You say India took years to perform in Tests, but what about ODIs and T20? India were the 2nd country to Win ODI WC and the first to Win T20WC! SL won their first WC within 14 years of playing their first Test! BD has been playing T20 as long as everyone else has and look where they stand. Not Won a single WC game in 4 tournaments so far.

Posted by Narbavi on (September 26, 2012, 4:10 GMT)

This team has been mediocre since the time they started playing, their has been some odd surprises here and there, now with one man named shakib they have been able to avoid some humiliating losses, its so funny how this team has been given test status ahead of Ireland, poor guys they deserve test status!!

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:58 GMT)

I think everything was ok in case of batting. they attack Gul & Hafiz, have a partnership in the middle overs, may be 10-15 runs short despite Shakib brilliance. In the bowling Missed chance of Nazir is the start of problem, May be Spinners would come little earlier. But they really played well overall because, (1) In this die pithch they dont have enough quality paceman. (2) In recent times BD not played enough big games compare to others. (3) Bangladesh wicket( Slow & Low) is their enemy for improvement. (4) Couple of Shakib & Mashrafi needed for BD (5) BD Cricket Board should be more proactive to plan for the bilateral series. In some points writer is ok but he has to go in depth to find the root cause.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:56 GMT)

Good article. After playing about 73 test matches, it is wrong to say that BD need more time to be competitive. NZ may have taken 25 years to win a test but check how many matched they have played in that 25 years. Surely less than 60. I think it is time to BD fans to demand best performances from their team without satisfying by individual's performances or rear wins. Media and fans should realize that they have a very ordinary team and stop boasting like they are the world champions.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:51 GMT)

mr Purohit, why don't you write something like this when West Indies or Zimbabwe play rubbish? Has it been even a year that BD outplayed India to get to the final of Asia Cup? I can still bet on BD on ODI's as they are a far better team in that format. Tell me why BD get bound to play most matches against minnows, not the major test playing nations...give them the opportunity. It takes time to build up for every team. It took Pakistan 17years to win a WC (1975-1992), it took India 28 years to win it for the second time....England hasn't won it yet, so is SA and NZ..so why don't you write something like this at their defeats? Is it your passion about BD cricket that made u write this article or your anger/frustrations infuriating for last 7 months since the Asia cup?

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:50 GMT)

They had enough time to be a top ranked team but they never tried to achieve higher standard they always around wining over Zim, Ire i would say they cant beat Afghan even again talent is not important should convert it to Experience otherwise u would never in top teams sorry for bangladesh its been long time in international cricket but improvement is limited to rare beating some of the higher team that the ratio is 50/1.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:49 GMT)

On some level I agree with the writer. I believe that it is time for us to ask for a higher standard from our team, the players should ask more for themselves. We should stop celebrating the small achievements, and start celebrating success. We are too dependent on individual performances, rather than on a team performance. I truly love my team, I will always cheer for every boundary no matter how they get it, and every wicket no matter how they pick it. And I believe it is our right as a nation to ask more from these players and specially the selectors. The talent surmounts most nations (in general) and yet we keep bringing back a below par player with the best lobbyists. Selectors, matches are won with bat and ball, and not with a smile.

Posted by masud69 on (September 26, 2012, 3:35 GMT)

well said, deep down the author has a great feeling for BD cricket. he wants BD to win and earn their respect in the cricketing world. Bangladeshi cricketers lacks self belief, you could see it on their body language during fielding even after making 175 in a T20 match they didn't show any aggression to defend it. sports in not all about skill it is also a mind game. you need killer instinct in the field to win.

Posted by Vasi-Koosi on (September 26, 2012, 3:26 GMT)

It is very unfair. The Bangladeshi team has been fabulous even without winning. Despite the loses, every bangladeshi must be proud of what their team has achieved. They do not have a Brendon, Afridi, Mahi or a Hussey. What they have is a very young captain who is < 25 and most of the team is around that age. You have got to give them some time. I am stumped by the enthu they show on the field even after losing so many matches. They do not go through the motions. They really try to compete. Most times they don't come through a few times they do. However, the expectations on them are way too high

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:23 GMT)

by the way my comment was for the writer.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:18 GMT)

I do not usually comment on cricinfo as for the maximum people(sub-continent fans) here, only their country can play "cricket" and others are just teams who are only qualified to play street crickets. But as a Bangladeshi cricket follower I must say after reading this article that THIS IS VERY NEGATIVE. Bangladeshi cricketers have all the talent in the world and I think many will agree with me on that, but all they lack is Experience. Give this team another 2 to 3 years and for sure this team will surprise you all and This team will be ranked beside Pakistan, India and Sri-lanka

Posted by thenoostar on (September 26, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

As a New Zealand fan, I can't comment as it took us 26 years to win our first test. But I will anyway. We lost most of our matches because of a lack of talent. We had Jack Cowie, Martin Donnely, Burt Sucliffe and Dempster and I dont think any of those guys won a test. Having a couple of good players sprinkled among players who are at best clubbies wont cut it most of the time. Bangladesh still have years to go until they are consistently competitive.

Posted by MrRascaL on (September 26, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

@ golgoal I think it is this attitude that they were lucky, we are very good but unlucky, our bowling is even on par with Pak's is what is hampering any growth in your team. Closing the eyes and not accepting where those loopholes are which are not letting them win matches, is a big big factor in BD failures.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:12 GMT)

Everyone wants the team to approve. Well why can't you get your team to play with ours? Australia, Pakistan, India, South Africa plays one another, where our team gets to play Netherlands, Ireland and occasionally Zimbabwe. You come pointing fingers, with a snicker on your face. You bring judgement but not logic. You want our team to improve, let us play with your teams then! Send them to us. But you don't do that. You just love it when we lose and hide when we win. Remember when we lose, we lose because of lack of opportunity. The opportunity YOU are denying us. When we win, we win because of talent and sheer brilliance. Next time you want to judge, please judge with reason.

Posted by bluewhiteice on (September 26, 2012, 3:09 GMT)

Thanks Abhishek for your "inspirational comments". Being a Bangladeshi, it was very hurting but very true. I hope the day will end when we are not MINNOWS anymore. But is it only our drawback that we cannot develop? Top teams play each other even twice a year. But not with teams like us. ICC should make it mandatory that each team should play each other atleast one in every two years in every format of the game. Play with teams like Ireland and play with teams like India is totally different for us and for the low ranked teams as well.

Posted by OttawaRocks on (September 26, 2012, 3:07 GMT)

Without reading anyone else's comments my first impression is that the author of the article is demanding too much. Generally, teams that are building go through processes of development before they achieve success. New Zealand took many years before they won their first test match but prior to that were building by gaining drawn matches etc. Bangladesh will have to go through rigorous process before they enjoy the same. They're not there yet although Tamim, Shakib and Mortaza are a good start to the building process. I felt Bangladesh was proceeding in the right direction when under Bashar's & Whatmore's direction and then went backwards. They will just have to re-start until the fundamentals of skill and teamwork are built properly before that success is achieved. You can't skip steps. It doesn't work that way. Good luck from a Canadian born India fan (of Bengali descent).

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 3:04 GMT)

I think, its more to do with confidence, mainly coach's are responsible for that department, if you look at this scenario as a whole teams like india is nothing without tendoo or Killi but; same theory applies to BD they're nothing without shakib. Other players are there to gap the momentum by their confident levels..

Posted by bouncer1021 on (September 26, 2012, 3:01 GMT)

Well played Bangladesh. They caught Pakistani bowling with an off day and they took full advantage of the situation, however, they just didn't have the right bowling combination to go pass Pakistan.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 2:47 GMT)

I have been following cricket for 30+ years. When Shrilanka started their status in early 80s, or Zimbabwe started in early 90s, they were much better than Bangladesh of 2000. Many cricket fans get frustrated when they see Bangladesh is not winins enough matches. But they are improving, yes slowly, but improving. In 80s we were happy to be the top 4 team in ICC Associates tournament. In 90s we were fighting for defeat with dignity (read showing some skill) against test teams. Now we are wining matches here and there, even sometimes doing very well (Asia Cup 2012 and NZ series in 2010). Bangladesh may not be like Shrilanks, but unlike Kenya or Zimbabwe Bangladesh's performance will not go worse than before.

Posted by Khaled_Shahed on (September 26, 2012, 2:41 GMT)

Thanks Abhishek for a nice and timely article. Like you..my comment is also same.. yes, it is enough now. I am a Bangladeshi and I am very disappointed to see the underperformed Bangladesh team. For how long we will keep saying we have potential and able to beat any team? Lot of money and efforts have been spent on Bangladeshi cricketers since getting the test status..yet no sign of consistency (I may be wrong..yes, we have consistency but in negative aspects). I have no doiubt about the talents of our team and also agree that they have shown some sign of development, but stil lacking in discipline - in all bowling, batting and fielding areas. As Abhishek mentioned we need to improve our leadership..it's not only for the captain. Every single player needs to work on their leadership - leading yourself and performing your individual responsibilities. Once we all will start leading ourselves well, I am sure we will get consistency in performing well. Good luck.

Posted by tapooori on (September 26, 2012, 2:39 GMT)

Purohit should have ended this article by saying "The approach and attitude of BD cricketers and BD fans has not changed for more than a decade. Now anyone following BD cricket can easily say that BD cricket is in a long and dark tunnel and there is no light at the end of the tunnel."

Posted by gman15 on (September 26, 2012, 2:39 GMT)

One way of developing a winning mindset could be - Exposure - Pataudi had the exposure, he played county cricket in England rubbed shoulders with the International players. Get Tamim, Shakib to play county, instill belief in their countrymen by playing for teams that actually win regularly.

Posted by tapooori on (September 26, 2012, 2:35 GMT)

Similarity between India and Bangladesh is.... Both nations are fanatic about cricket. Difference between the two nations is.... Indian fans demand the best and more often get the best and Bangladeshi fans were/are content with the worst and getting the worst.

Posted by Miandad280 on (September 26, 2012, 2:34 GMT)

Wow. Powerful and heartfelt piece. You are right about the lack of self-belief, and about the need for some messianic champion to make it happen for Bangladesh. There is no doubt their time too will come. If indeed there is all that passion in the mix, it may come sooner than we think.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 2:32 GMT)

I think BD guys need to calm down, yesterday after scoring huge runs, they were on high and started dreaming for super eight,,,Their bowling was wayward as if they are playing in nets,,,you can not compare Ajmal with Saqlain,, Ajmal is intelligent bowler and aggressive too,,where as Saqlain never had that capabilities to won matches,,

Posted by Mamundo on (September 26, 2012, 2:02 GMT)

Shakib should be the captain. I think Bangladesh now is similar to Pakistan back in 1987. Bunch of talented but indisciplined players who didn't have the confidence to win. And then a Imran Khan came along and took them by the scruf and demanded that they play at the top of their abilities. I think Shakib can be such a strong leader. I completely agree with the anology that Mushfiq is the head boy. He is a great diplomat. You need diplomatic captain when your team is full of stablished stars like Dhoni is for India and Strauss was for England. But at the moment Bangladesh don't need him, they need SHAKIB

Posted by golgoal on (September 26, 2012, 1:40 GMT)

I think this article is a little harsh on Bangladesh. They actually are pretty good at T20, and did very well today. Just that Nazir and other Pak players got a little lucky. They swung and connected, but on other days could have gone much earlier. Bangladesh batting and fielding are as good as Pakistan's if not better. Their bowling needs a little improvement though, but if you leave out Ajmal, BD are equal to Pak in bowling dept as well.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 1:40 GMT)

Bangladesh will never be that side who will be the next srilanka to dream a world cup win under Mushfiq. Bangladesh needs leader like Shakib who can be an example to other players to perform. Also, decisions in a game are very important. Mushfiq continued Fast-medium bowling for 5 overs even when the bowlers were getting trashed. Why didn't he bring Razzaq earlier and mix up the bowling when he did the breakthrough in previous match with a brilliant delivery - once the batsman hit few boundaries they are full of confidence and a captin's target is to give the batsman difficult time with the right bowler and create every possible chances! When there wasn't enough wicket lost and only had 5 over remaining, why didn't inform Ziaur Rahaman come before Mushfiq or Mahamudullah ? Please change mushfiq from captin - stop sports politics and make the right person to lead the team to it's potential.

Posted by Realfighters on (September 26, 2012, 1:38 GMT)

best cricket article ever, two thumbs up

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (September 26, 2012, 1:04 GMT)

My best advice to BAN is to play teams like AFG and IRE more often especially on seaming tracks. Playing with better teams and getting thrashed time and again is not helping their confidence.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 1:03 GMT)

Being a Bangladeshi, even though some of the things he said seemed a tad insulting, I would have to agree with most of things he said. A very good article. "Nothing to lose" was one of the most disgusting comments Mushfiq could have made on the eve of the game. Although Mushfiq is very disciplined and has many of the attributes of a leader we need a more motivational, inspirational leader and at the moment i believe Shakib is the one who might be able to guide us. He has been captain in the past and should have never been sacked. He always dealt with defeats with disappoint and anger rather than trying to undermine like Mushfiq has done. Bangladesh needs to be upset if they loose. They should thrive for not only success, but for victories. Mindsets needs to be changed and we need to play more competitive cricket to achieve VICTORIES. Was very disappointment with their t20 world cup performance, glimses of good performances isnt good enough. Anyways, wishing them well for the future. :)

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 1:01 GMT)

If you change the references of Bangladesh to Australia, this article then will be apt. Bangladesh is not under achieving, they are just doing what they can with the personnel they have at their disposal.

Posted by AusieBangaleeShameem on (September 26, 2012, 1:00 GMT)

As a die-hard TIGER fan --- disappointed while Tamim being needlessly "RUN OUT" in that situation ---- felt very DOWN when ABUL HASAN dropped NAZIR off SHAFIUL's first over!! Yes A Purohit ---- I strongly support your view "enough is enough" --====== but like other TIGER-SUPPORTERS --- I'll be still be die-hard supporter ---- hoping to get an "Arjun" (Ranatunga) or a "Tiger" (Patoudi) in the next major cricketing event.

Posted by slow.mo on (September 26, 2012, 0:46 GMT)

You got everything right except the 'fans' part. You have no idea how much the fans want BD team to do well. Even if BD reached semi-finals and lost the fans would be dissatisfied for not being able to make the final. The expectation from the fans has no limit. Sometimes the players use it as an excuse calling it 'pressure'.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

Brilliant article,hats off Mr Purohit.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2012, 0:27 GMT)

What is the aim of this article? Your point is if the media and audience curse and trash the national cricket team daily then somehow Pataudi or Ranatunga can be created. This is totally senseless, illogical, and untrue. A good player or person can be created by praising and acknowledgement of their hard work even though the venture is unsuccessful. Nowadays, by talking crazy things, it is possible to gain attention but in the long run it never helps. It is just another futile attempt.

Posted by cricket_all_the_way on (September 26, 2012, 0:26 GMT)

Bangladesh should be stripped of the test status and Ireland should be provided with that. Leave Ireland for 10 years in the game and see where they stands as compared to Bangladesh. Even today Ireland can beat Bangladesh any day any time. Bangalis dont deserve to play test cricket, they make cricket boring. T20 is okay for bangladesh but no need to include them to make up the numbers.

Posted by jabbar2012 on (September 26, 2012, 0:25 GMT)

Abhishek, You have called a spade a spade, and I thank you for that. The first thing to do in order to improve is to cease denying the problems.

You are correct in saying it is in the mind - Bangladeshis have a humbleness about their own prospects in cricket (perhaps in other areas too) that is both endearing and frustrating.

As a Bangladeshi born and raised in Australia, I can see the differences in mind set. When Australia dropped their standard after successive Ashes defeats, the nation was stirred and good, honest introspection ensued. They initiated reviews and inquiries, and I think they are slowly rebounding from a cyclic drop in form after the departure of many legendary players. The point is, Australia expects success and have pride in ensuring it happens.

Bangladesh need to have a similar inquiry in their own systems. There is one very easy line item that would emerge from this enquiry - the team needs to play a lot more cricket. Let's start here and work upwards

Jabbar

Posted by Meety on (September 26, 2012, 0:24 GMT)

@Abhishek Purohit in Pallekele - I think you're being harsh on Bangladesh. The fat is, whilst SL's GREAT W/Cup win was only 14 years after their 1st Test, they had a more structured domestic scene for a lot longer. Bangladesh's domestic priorities are the first problem. For a fledgling International team who doesn't have the assets that other teams have, the ONE discipline of cricket that can be improved on with hard work is FIELDING. Sri Lanka are the best fielding team in ASIA, & it is no surprise that have been finalists in the last 2 ODI W/Cups. Zimbabwe in the late 90s/early 2000s competed well against everyone as they were amongst the best fielders in the world. So my strategy for Bangladesh 1) Prioritise the NCL over the Dhaka pro-club league, 2) Teach cricketers at Youth level to be a GREAT fieldsmen first & a bowler/batsmen 2nd. 3) Send their cricketers to play overseas in any competitions they can.

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