November 7, 2010

The Pujara and Johnson conundrums

India have a dilemma about their No. 3 spot and Australia on how best to use their strike bowler
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With important series looming, imaginative and thoughtful selection could very well be decisive for both India and Australia in the next few months.

Consequently, preferring Rahul Dravid over the highly impressive Cheteshwar Pujara for the first Test against New Zealand was a surprisingly timid move by the Indian panel.

Pujara deservedly received rave reviews for both his technique and temperament in his match-clinching innings against Australia last month. While this isn't the Australian attack of the Shane Warne-Glenn McGrath era, they still don't go down without a fight. Pujara matched the Australians for aggression and outwitted Ricky Ponting's bowlers in what was an enterprising and influential knock. His confidence was high after that innings, and if ever there was a right time to reward a young player, it was in the first Test against New Zealand.

However, the Indian selectors opted for a safety-first move when the situation cried out for a bit of imagination. Especially considering MS Dhoni promoted Pujara to No. 3 against Australia with such stunning results.

At this stage of his career, Dravid is not the ideal player to bat at No. 3 in South Africa. He's been hanging on by his fingernails for a while now and although he's never been a dominant player, he has been even more prone to periods of stagnation in his declining years. South Africa's strategy is based on tying batsmen down and reducing the flow of runs to a trickle. If Dravid struggles and scores slowly, he'll play right into their hands.

It seems pointless to have Virender Sehwag rattle the opposition with mercurial strokeplay at the top of the order and then risk allowing the bowling side back into the contest while Dravid fights for survival.

The impressive way Pujara played the horizontal bat shots was another reason to give him every opportunity to succeed before touring South Africa. If India are to win that tough tour, someone at the top of the order will need to defuse the South African pace attack.

If Pujara had failed to grasp the opportunity against New Zealand then the selectors always had the option of returning Dravid to the middle order and using the more aggressive Laxman at No. 3 in South Africa.

Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable, but it proved nothing - apart from boosting his statistics. His selection was an opportunity wasted.

Australia's plight is an entirely different case.

Where India are winning and finding it difficult to change a successful combination, Australia are losing, and the selectors are desperate to unearth a couple of young players who can help arrest the slide.

However, the selectors face a dilemma. A loss at home to England will be viewed by the public as a calamity on the order of the global financial crisis. The selectors are walking a high wire without a safety net as they totter between gambling on youth from the outset and hoping the experienced players rediscover the art of winning in the nick of time. A move to the former policy after the latter fails would be completing the act only after the safety net had been discovered.

The other problem for the Australian selectors is that, while most of the controversy has surrounded the middle-order batting, the clue to solving the puzzle may well be the bowling attack. The lack of form from Mitchell Johnson is a big concern. He has been the strike bowler since Brett Lee's departure, but his ambushes have been far less frequent of late. Do the selectors gamble on the hope that the extra pace and bounce of Australian pitches will help Johnson rediscover his wicket-taking form or do they take the radical step of omitting their most successful bowler?

They might compromise with a moderate gamble. Omit Marcus North, play Steven Smith and retain Johnson. This way you don't weaken the batting too much, with Brad Haddin in the No. 6 spot, and you give the bowling more variety. It would also allow Ponting to use Johnson purely as a strike bowler, in short sharp bursts.

The really good selectors have a knack for seeing the current requirements while also visualising what's needed in the future. Another reason why it's more important to spend lavishly to get the right selectors rather than reward a coach with a big contract.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell is now a cricket commentator and columnist

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  • ravi_musti on November 11, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari : I was a little curious as to where these stats will lead me and hence another check in statsguru about performance of Indian batsmen *in* SA and surprise surprise, its Dinesh Karthik who leads the pack with a whopping average of 101!! A huge lead against the second man in list, VVS with 41.4! Kapil, Sachin, Sourav and Dravid follow. Sehwag averages a mere 26. I say we give Jaffer (who averages a healthy 30 in SA) a chance and drop Sehwag since as someone seems to be frequently reminding us Jaffer is the best batsman not in the Indian squad (I'm of course being very very very sarcastic). DK obviously makes a strong case for selection apparently. Jokes aside, its apparent that Indian batsmen have struggled in SA, so singularly pointing out RD's stats and saying he failed is unfair to him. Its obvious to me that since SA has been the 'never before conquered' land RD should be selected. Experience over new blood. Especially since we seem to be struggling against the NZers.

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 10, 2010, 18:52 GMT

    Lately, I have noticed that Rahul Dravid is getting hit by even the mediocre bowlers on his head. I am his fan and I am concerned about his safety more than anything else. His reflexes have become slow and now he is vulnerable against quality quicks. As the stats already quoated here clearly show he has never been able to deal with SA bouncy pitches and will be a sitting duck most of the time as he has the tendency to keep finding the fielders and not gaps unlike a Laxman. He is a nice guy and all but test cricket is not a charity.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 10, 2010, 18:45 GMT

    @ Ravi, A batsman averaging low 30's overall and low 20s on the last tour at the age of 38 and blatantly out-of-form can not be considered batting mainstay for crucial momemntum building position of number 3 in test cricket. Point is simple.

  • ravi_musti on November 10, 2010, 18:26 GMT

    Even going by stats, RD has been averaging over 57 since Jan 2009. He has definitely been one of THE reasons for India achieving its current status alongwith Sachin etc. Knocking him out now just because he's having a difficult year is very very very wrong. Yes, Cricket is a team sport and winning is what is important but what is the incentive for great consistent performances over the years? The likes of Pujara will never survive with so much pressure for performance. There are already calls for the ouster of Gambhir and Raina. Gambhir after his exceptional record the past two years is rewarded for a couple of bad series like this?

    Trust is essential for a team's success. Trust a player. Let him know that he will be in the squad even if he fails a couple of times and he will definitely rise and shine. Scare him and he will make blunders. An occasional wake up call is necessary, but not to the likes of Dravi/Sachin without whom we would have been reeling somewhere alongside Pak/WI/NZ

  • ravi_musti on November 10, 2010, 18:08 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari : Yes *those* stats are okay, but the away stats you quoted of RD's from 2006-10 are blatantly false.

    And I'll give you one better. The only Indian batsmen to average over 40 against SA, ever, are Irfan, Sehwag, Dinesh Karthik, Azhar and Kapil Dev. So I'm sure you have the atting lineup for SA all ready then? Pathan and Sehwag will open? We can recall Azhar and Kapil back into the middle order and DK can take over the now much argued No.3 spot? Now change the qualification to 'has played more than 5 matches' and we'll have Sehwag, Azhar, Sachin, Dhoni, Laxman and Dravid in that order.

    Of course as someone down the list has pointed out Sachin screwed up against the Lankans in '08 but was still chosen as "better sense prevailed" in the '10 tour. Of course by your logic of selecting a player solely based on his stats against a particular team Sachin himself should be dropped for the series against SA, he averages a meagre 38 and change against SA and another low 39 in SA

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 10, 2010, 16:52 GMT

    Dravid has been useless for quite some time now. In SA he has never performed well even when he was at his peak. Its just like Sanjay Manjerekar in Australia, all this great technique and stuff and no scoring ultimately creates enough pressure for the dismissal. It is just the matter of that one ball arriving!

  • on November 10, 2010, 15:57 GMT

    No batsman in the present world can repalce dravid at no.3 position, he is the best you can see the stats. He has the mettle to face the fast bowlers anywhere in the world at anytime in the day or night. If you wake him up in the midnight and tell him to bat he will give you the best defence to any bowler who bowls at him.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 10, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    My stats are accurate as they are taken from cricinfo stats guru: You can try it yourself if you want

    Overall record of RD against SA in SA:

    filtered 1996-2007 8 504 148 33.60 1

    He averages 33 against them and that was when he was in his prime! What will he do now when he is averaging in low 30s on pitches like Motera against bowling attack like NZ. Lets not get too emotional and think about it in objective manner.

  • jay57870 on November 10, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    (Contd). Gary adds: "There are enough young players out there but it will take them a few years to get the type of experience required to build a successful Test career. There might be a rebuilding phase in India in two years' time, but every team has to go through that, especially when great players retire." Meaning it takes years to develop players and he appreciates the Staying Power of the veterans, which is the key to stability and success. Regarding specific players, Gary states: "Yes, there are some really good players. You will have Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Raina, along with the likes of Ishant, Vijay, Pujara and others. Yes, you might miss out on a Laxman batting in a crucial situation to win you a game, but someone like Suresh Raina has done it plenty of times in one-dayers so there is no reason why he can't transfer it to a Test match." Pujara is only one among several young guns. Bottom line: Team India is in safe hands. We don't need the Chappell Brothers to mess it up.

  • Rumy1 on November 10, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    Laxman is perhaps the best batsman in world right now. Gambhir must make way for Jaffer. It's time to get the country's best bat who is not in the team back into the team. Technically and temperamentally Jaffer is the most well equipped for No.2 position and is a much better option than Vijay in Tests. Dravid must retire now. He clearly is struggling these days. Time for him to bid adieu. Pujara must be brought back in. Raina must go. He is good for ODIs and T20s but doesn't have the technique or temperament for Tests. No, Yuvraj shouldn't replace Raina. Yuvraj has got enough Test chances and is good for ODIs & T20s like Raina. Rohit like Yuvraj doesn't merit a Test place either. Kaif deserves a Test chance provided Dhoni agrees. Kaif as a wounded tiger will grab the opportunity with both hands and could be a threat for MSD as a potential future Test captain. Else Badrinath merits a Test cap. Ishant needs to be brought back in the Test XI. He is a special talent. Ojha must be persisted

  • ravi_musti on November 11, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari : I was a little curious as to where these stats will lead me and hence another check in statsguru about performance of Indian batsmen *in* SA and surprise surprise, its Dinesh Karthik who leads the pack with a whopping average of 101!! A huge lead against the second man in list, VVS with 41.4! Kapil, Sachin, Sourav and Dravid follow. Sehwag averages a mere 26. I say we give Jaffer (who averages a healthy 30 in SA) a chance and drop Sehwag since as someone seems to be frequently reminding us Jaffer is the best batsman not in the Indian squad (I'm of course being very very very sarcastic). DK obviously makes a strong case for selection apparently. Jokes aside, its apparent that Indian batsmen have struggled in SA, so singularly pointing out RD's stats and saying he failed is unfair to him. Its obvious to me that since SA has been the 'never before conquered' land RD should be selected. Experience over new blood. Especially since we seem to be struggling against the NZers.

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 10, 2010, 18:52 GMT

    Lately, I have noticed that Rahul Dravid is getting hit by even the mediocre bowlers on his head. I am his fan and I am concerned about his safety more than anything else. His reflexes have become slow and now he is vulnerable against quality quicks. As the stats already quoated here clearly show he has never been able to deal with SA bouncy pitches and will be a sitting duck most of the time as he has the tendency to keep finding the fielders and not gaps unlike a Laxman. He is a nice guy and all but test cricket is not a charity.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 10, 2010, 18:45 GMT

    @ Ravi, A batsman averaging low 30's overall and low 20s on the last tour at the age of 38 and blatantly out-of-form can not be considered batting mainstay for crucial momemntum building position of number 3 in test cricket. Point is simple.

  • ravi_musti on November 10, 2010, 18:26 GMT

    Even going by stats, RD has been averaging over 57 since Jan 2009. He has definitely been one of THE reasons for India achieving its current status alongwith Sachin etc. Knocking him out now just because he's having a difficult year is very very very wrong. Yes, Cricket is a team sport and winning is what is important but what is the incentive for great consistent performances over the years? The likes of Pujara will never survive with so much pressure for performance. There are already calls for the ouster of Gambhir and Raina. Gambhir after his exceptional record the past two years is rewarded for a couple of bad series like this?

    Trust is essential for a team's success. Trust a player. Let him know that he will be in the squad even if he fails a couple of times and he will definitely rise and shine. Scare him and he will make blunders. An occasional wake up call is necessary, but not to the likes of Dravi/Sachin without whom we would have been reeling somewhere alongside Pak/WI/NZ

  • ravi_musti on November 10, 2010, 18:08 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari : Yes *those* stats are okay, but the away stats you quoted of RD's from 2006-10 are blatantly false.

    And I'll give you one better. The only Indian batsmen to average over 40 against SA, ever, are Irfan, Sehwag, Dinesh Karthik, Azhar and Kapil Dev. So I'm sure you have the atting lineup for SA all ready then? Pathan and Sehwag will open? We can recall Azhar and Kapil back into the middle order and DK can take over the now much argued No.3 spot? Now change the qualification to 'has played more than 5 matches' and we'll have Sehwag, Azhar, Sachin, Dhoni, Laxman and Dravid in that order.

    Of course as someone down the list has pointed out Sachin screwed up against the Lankans in '08 but was still chosen as "better sense prevailed" in the '10 tour. Of course by your logic of selecting a player solely based on his stats against a particular team Sachin himself should be dropped for the series against SA, he averages a meagre 38 and change against SA and another low 39 in SA

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 10, 2010, 16:52 GMT

    Dravid has been useless for quite some time now. In SA he has never performed well even when he was at his peak. Its just like Sanjay Manjerekar in Australia, all this great technique and stuff and no scoring ultimately creates enough pressure for the dismissal. It is just the matter of that one ball arriving!

  • on November 10, 2010, 15:57 GMT

    No batsman in the present world can repalce dravid at no.3 position, he is the best you can see the stats. He has the mettle to face the fast bowlers anywhere in the world at anytime in the day or night. If you wake him up in the midnight and tell him to bat he will give you the best defence to any bowler who bowls at him.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 10, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    My stats are accurate as they are taken from cricinfo stats guru: You can try it yourself if you want

    Overall record of RD against SA in SA:

    filtered 1996-2007 8 504 148 33.60 1

    He averages 33 against them and that was when he was in his prime! What will he do now when he is averaging in low 30s on pitches like Motera against bowling attack like NZ. Lets not get too emotional and think about it in objective manner.

  • jay57870 on November 10, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    (Contd). Gary adds: "There are enough young players out there but it will take them a few years to get the type of experience required to build a successful Test career. There might be a rebuilding phase in India in two years' time, but every team has to go through that, especially when great players retire." Meaning it takes years to develop players and he appreciates the Staying Power of the veterans, which is the key to stability and success. Regarding specific players, Gary states: "Yes, there are some really good players. You will have Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni, Raina, along with the likes of Ishant, Vijay, Pujara and others. Yes, you might miss out on a Laxman batting in a crucial situation to win you a game, but someone like Suresh Raina has done it plenty of times in one-dayers so there is no reason why he can't transfer it to a Test match." Pujara is only one among several young guns. Bottom line: Team India is in safe hands. We don't need the Chappell Brothers to mess it up.

  • Rumy1 on November 10, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    Laxman is perhaps the best batsman in world right now. Gambhir must make way for Jaffer. It's time to get the country's best bat who is not in the team back into the team. Technically and temperamentally Jaffer is the most well equipped for No.2 position and is a much better option than Vijay in Tests. Dravid must retire now. He clearly is struggling these days. Time for him to bid adieu. Pujara must be brought back in. Raina must go. He is good for ODIs and T20s but doesn't have the technique or temperament for Tests. No, Yuvraj shouldn't replace Raina. Yuvraj has got enough Test chances and is good for ODIs & T20s like Raina. Rohit like Yuvraj doesn't merit a Test place either. Kaif deserves a Test chance provided Dhoni agrees. Kaif as a wounded tiger will grab the opportunity with both hands and could be a threat for MSD as a potential future Test captain. Else Badrinath merits a Test cap. Ishant needs to be brought back in the Test XI. He is a special talent. Ojha must be persisted

  • Rumy1 on November 10, 2010, 13:27 GMT

    Laxman is perhaps the best batsman in world right now. Gambhir must make way for Jaffer. It's time to get the country's best bat who is not in the team back into the team. Technically and temperamentally Jaffer is the most well equipped for No.2 position and is a much better option than Vijay in Tests. Dravid must retire now. He clearly is struggling these days. Time for him to bid adieu. Pujara must be brought back in. Raina must go. He is good for ODIs and T20s but doesn't have the technique or temperament for Tests. No, Yuvraj shouldn't replace Raina. Yuvraj has got enough Test chances and is good for ODIs & T20s like Raina. Rohit like Yuvraj doesn't merit a Test place either. Kaif deserves a Test chance provided Dhoni agrees. Kaif as a wounded tiger will grab the opportunity with both hands and could be a threat for MSD as a potential future Test captain. Else Badrinath merits a Test cap. Ishant needs to be brought back in the Test XI. He is a special talent. Ojha must be persisted

  • jay57870 on November 10, 2010, 13:26 GMT

    Instead of heeding Ian Chappell's misguided comments, I suggest you read the Nov. 9 cricinfo interview with Gary Kirsten: A credible person who has first-hand knowledge of the team. When asked about the "ageing middle order", he responded candidly: "It is difficult to say because there is no indication of any of them retiring. And I always ask them. They are certainly not in any rush. Look, if Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar or VVS Laxman decides to retire it is a major blow. Just like when Jacques Kallis and Ricky Ponting decide to retire it is a major blow for their respective teams. But as long as the retirements of these players are staggered, rather than everyone leaving all at ,once it will be a little easier for the team to integrate and groom the younger players." Rest assured, Gary is in no hurry to get rid of any of the 3 veterans, on whose backs (along with Kumble & Ganguly) Team India has ascended to the top ranking in Tests. TBC

  • Dareboy on November 10, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    Pujara is good but not that good to replace Dravid who single hadedly supported many matches where india were in a very poor stage. You cant risk taking someone like Pujara to South Africa despite having an experienced person like Dravid. Dravid is having bad days but you cant leave him alone he will respond strongly. Mind it Chappel.

  • Anup82 on November 10, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    It is obvious that Sachin Rahul and VVS are growing old and would have to retire in coming years. We need to see that how the transition would be managed. May be at a time only 2 seniors should be selected out of these three so that they can be preserved for long and make one slot empty for giving chance to a youngster. Its difficult but just a thought to ponder.....

  • baboo1947 on November 10, 2010, 10:14 GMT

    I agree with kiran & all. I want to ask a question to Mr. Ian that what he knows about the temperament & capability of Dravid ? Dravid is a jewel of cricket. Don't think about his replacement. He has suffered a lot in past only for Vengasarkar's dirty politics. Let's him play as he wish to play.

  • ki18jan on November 10, 2010, 10:01 GMT

    Bang on... Its time Dravid makes way for younger players. Ideal to give chance to pujara before he loses his form. There is absolutely nothing for Dravid to proove. Better he retire himself than being dropped. He may learn something from Adam Gilchrist, Mathew Hayden who did that in their peak form. We remember them even today as aggressive players than remmebering as out of form & worn out batsmen

  • Katrick on November 10, 2010, 6:11 GMT

    This doesn't make sense at all, Ian says " Dravid is not the ideal player to bat at No. 3 in South Africa"

    Infact I beleive Dravid is an IDEAL No.3 in South Africa....he has so much experience of playing in those conditions,& even though Pujara looks promising,there's no1 currently in the team whom he can replace now....so Pujara might be the Future choice,but Dravid is what we need as the no.3 now.

  • on November 10, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    For gods sake leave Dravid alone. After Gangully left the team we still have not found a right replacement. You just see the stats Dravid has involved in more than 66 century patnerships which is perhaps more than any one in the history of cricket. He has another 2 years left for gods sake dont talk about his replacement let him play as long as he wants to play.Firt of all he lost his form because of Vengsarkars ploitics. see this link you could see only dravids name http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;team=6;template=results;type=fow

  • ahamedirshad123 on November 10, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    HEY Ian,thank you for you article.I think you know what happened after you made a comment on Sachin.Better make a comment on Ponting.It will be good for dying Australian cricket...........

  • cricketlovee on November 10, 2010, 5:08 GMT

    Ian this is not right...being an australian i too want Australia on top...but this is no way of using politics against such legend .....it will not serve cricket if dravid or ponting go...u have said the same to Sachin and same to ponting now..what a shame..

  • Biophysicist on November 10, 2010, 5:06 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari: Your stats for Dravid in away matches from 2006 are wrong. For the period since 01-01-2006 he played 26 matches (not counting Bangladesh). He averages 41.44 with 3 centuries. Yes, he has had a loss of form in SA in the 2006-2007 tour, but even Sachin had a bad tour to Sri Lanka in 2008 with the following stats: 3 tests, 6 innings, 95 runs (total), highest score 31, average 15.83. Based on that performance, by your logic, he should not have been taken to SL in the 2010 tour. But better sense prevailed in the selection committee and he scored 390 runs in the 2010 tour at an average of 78.0. These two along with Laxman are great players and know what is good for the Indian team. Please refrain from making comments based incorrect data and prejudiced thinking!

  • Biophysicist on November 10, 2010, 4:45 GMT

    @Gulshan_Grover: Please read carefully what I wrote before commenting on my post. The stats that I gave for Dravid correspond to the matches played since 01-01-2008. You can verify from statsguru that they are accurate to the second decimal. You say that 'from 2006 onwards Dravid's story is a story of sad decline', but statistics show that he averaged overall 45.17 in matches starting after 01-01-2006. Moreover, since 01-01-2009 (nearly 2 years), his average is 57.04. I don't know based on which data you made your comments. It is not proper to make hand-waving statements, without data to support.

  • Vishnu27 on November 10, 2010, 4:12 GMT

    sachinXI: I think you are slightly underestimating Australia's capacity to rebuild. Cricket is a grassroots game in Australia everywhere at all levels, as opposed to the WI where it is a 2nd or 3rd-tier sport. There is an extremely strong cricket culture in this nation, that I would argue is probably second only to India's passion for the game. Australia is going through a downturn, but nothing that is irreversible. Australia will be back, that is a certainty with the talent identification processes & academies in situ in this country. However, what is India doing to sustain it's recent success in the long term? I'm not so sure India can stay top of the heap for too long, & certainly not for the sustained periods Australia was able to maintain.

  • SpeedCricketThrills on November 10, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Speed cricket and Test cricket are two completely different genres (or delicacies?) of the game. The seniors started with Test cricket as the main course and Speed Cricket as the appetizer and adapted to both very well. Now, Speed Cricket is gradually becoming the main course (with tons of money too!). Test Cricket has a very uncertain future.

    There is no way "new generation" can easily adapt to both .. we are already seeing it in many, including Dhoni. Money warps the attitudes of human beings..will be unwise to give examples from Indian team here.

    Its is likely that at any point of time in future, there may be a few players of "Test" calibre - Pujara included. Test cricket will survive only as long as India shows interest and patronises it. New generation still has a lot to learn from Dravid.

    We need to find someone else to make way for Pujara.

  • EverybodylovesSachin on November 10, 2010, 3:45 GMT

    I am not going to read anymore Ian Chappell's article or watch his video etc....Hope Cricinfo Drop him from their team.....

  • vasanth.r on November 10, 2010, 2:24 GMT

    This seems to be an typical australian comment ... Based on one performance pujara should not be given a chance in place of Rahul. This was not a timid move as mentioned . Pujara wil get his chances for sure .. lets give him some time too

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 10, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    FACTS: RD sucks in South Africa. He will suck even more this time around and will sink India in the test matches with his negative play. Rest what ever tripe you folks write is just a poor excuse for your hero worship. Can we have some maturity here please. Ian Chappel is an adult talking like an adult in a room full of hormonal adolescents.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 9, 2010, 23:50 GMT

    @Pujara, I agree but the fact is as stats suggest neither have RD succeeded in the past in SA nor it is likely that he will succeed this time. We can not keep our young players wrapped in cotton wool so they never come across SA fast bowlers. If that was the criteria people like Sehwag never would have gotten a chance against SA and Australia and hence would never have gotten an opportunity to prove himself.

  • manu on November 9, 2010, 23:41 GMT

    Can someone please tell me who is Ian Chappel? is he somehow related to Greg Chappel who took the money from Indian cricekt and backstabbed them?

  • sra1.raaja on November 9, 2010, 23:23 GMT

    I partly agree with Ian ... I agree that New Zealand series can be used to groom Pujara... But i dont agree with replacing Dravid. My idea would be keepping the Top 5 batsmen constnat and rotating the 6th batsman between Raina, Vijay nd Pujara.

    It makes a formidable batting order as well as opportunity for all. A captain of Dhoni caliber & Kirsten can easily make it understand the players as this is a rotation policy and not an axing. By doing so, the Chappel Era @ 2007 wont repeat.

    This will be ease the hurry of rushing new batsmen after retiring of seniors or in case of injuries to the top 5 batsmen

    Throwing a budding cricker @ Safari pitches will be a cold blodded murder..

  • kabe_ag7 on November 9, 2010, 23:22 GMT

    "Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable". That almost sounds like a complement. Who else was scoring a hundred according to your predictions, Ian? Sachin perhaps? Or Bhaji, I'm sure? Please let us know about your next test predictions now and don't be a Captain Hindsight.

  • pankajkumarsingh on November 9, 2010, 22:54 GMT

    Ian Chappel is on the decline more that Dravid. Age is catching up with him. He is betting on Pujara's single inning against Dravd's 100 test matches? And how is Dravid on the decline to begin with? 3 years ago, these are the same guys who said Sachin is on the decline. On SA pitches, you absolutely need Dravid along with Sachin and Laxman. Oh! And more importantly, why isnt he paying attention to his own house, which is on fire. With all due respect to Ponting's batting, Aussies have seen the worst under him. Pick on Ponting as opposed to Sachins and Dravids

  • adavidk on November 9, 2010, 22:32 GMT

    Ian Chappell strikes again, he's played test cricket so maybe he doesn't get it. For all of those who would have loved to have played the game at that level you just don't give away test caps. They are the ultimate 'test' and therefore caps should not just be given away. The best players should play all the time unless they are injured, tired (unable to perform at their best) or out of form. By not doing this test cricket is devalued by having some people play it who don't deserve the honour.

  • Pujara on November 9, 2010, 20:36 GMT

    @ Hema_Adhikari. Stats could be misleading at times. All depends on how team was doing as a whole in that period. Cricket is not a sport of individual. However, i do support Pujara to be in the current line up for NZ series, i doubt it would be good idea to expose him into SA against one of the better bowling attacks in the world. I do agree that Pujara did score runs in places like NZ, Aus with A teams against decent bowling attack but not as the quality of Styn, Morne and co.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 9, 2010, 19:17 GMT

    @Pradeep, here are the cold stats to wake you up from your slumber: RD from 2006 to 2010; away matches except bangladesh

    filtered 21 1284 93 34.70 0 11

    v South Africa 3 125 47 20.83

    And he is going to be India's saviour in away series against SA at number three?

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 9, 2010, 18:54 GMT

    Good point Balaji, who is a legend and who is not is really not the issue of debate here. Neither Indian cricket team birth is reserved on the basis of seniority or past performances. It is all about who can score test match runs for next 6-10 years and it is not Dravid for sure. He is a class act but he is in age related decline. Not his fault just the rule of the nature. But it is really crazy to see some of his supporters being deferential to the point where no one can even suggest that he be dropped. This is fan following or some unconcious parochial impulse; I don't know, but it is definitely the kind of non-sense we don't need in Indian cricket atmosphere.

  • only_india_1 on November 9, 2010, 18:53 GMT

    More surprisingly, nothing written about failing Aus middle orders- Ponting, Clarke, Hussey and North-what have they done..try and replace your countrymen to save your 'Urn'. One thing I been predicting for so long now is that Aus dominance will be completely gone in all forms of games and 5-6 years from now, their condition is going to be like present WI team-

  • only_india_1 on November 9, 2010, 18:43 GMT

    I don't understand what is wrong with Ian. Why is he always after Iadian side? Now that Sachin made him quite, he is after Dravid. Hey Ian, now that Greg is australian selector,ask him to remove ponting with other new guys like ferguson or so.., he has been no better than Rahul for past few years, fix australian side first before ashse..which i am sure english team is going to retain. Look at the mirror and stop writing this biased articles. no doubt pujara is great..but tell me honestly would replace dravid with him based on only one performance? you have got to be kidding me. And why you saying australia didn't have warne-mcgrath in their side..look at warne's average in india and you will see that warne was no better than hauritz. SO please I request you again - stop writing such articles,..

  • thebrownie on November 9, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Ian, I am glad you are not an Indian selector. How about replacing Ponting with some XYZ? Afterall, both ponting and dravid have similar averages in the last years. If you had suggested Raina being replaced by Pujara, I am all for it! On a slow track, Chris Martin, of all bowlers, rattled him. He would be a walking wicket for Steyn & Morkel in SA.

  • Mina_Anand on November 9, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Good for Dravid that Chappell wants him to go....

    Chappell did the same thing for Sachin - urged him to 'look in the mirror' and 'retire'...

    Time will tell how Ian called wrong - yet again !

  • Pujara on November 9, 2010, 16:16 GMT

    @ Pradeeps_Speed. No one says the RD is a liability. He is a true champ. The point is if you look at our ageing middle order of SRT, RD, Lax will retire in max of two years. We need to plan for that in advance by including some of the promising youngsters such as Pujara, Vijay into the line up. As I mentioned in my previous post, Pujara is certainly not experienced to Int'l cricket but he did score good runs in places like NZ, Uk and Australia. I would not play him in SA series but surely would have given him chance in current NZ series. If he scores big, good for Indian cricket if not he will at lest have something to work on in his off time.

  • on November 9, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Guys give Ian a break. I'm a big fan of Dravid too, but I don't think he is in his peak form right now. If seniority/legendness is the deal in selection why not bring Gavaskar and Kapil into the team now? I hope you understand my point. Dravid has a place in Cricketing history as the best No.3 for India. But, now we need young blood and there is no better time to try when you play a second rate side at home.

  • Farce-Follower on November 9, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    A few of you are looking at RD wafting outside off...not pretty, but definitely a lot better than Raina falling to a sucker punch or MSD not knowing where his off-stump is. Can we have some consistency please.

  • ravi_musti on November 9, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    Pujara for Dravid? The audacity!! You've gotta be kidding me. I don't think even Pujara expects *that* to happen in the near future. We're talking as if this will be Pujara's last chance to get into the squad. Dravid has more than proved his worth over the years. There were times when Sachin and VVS were written off. I remember Chappell also talking about how it was high time that Sachin stop living in his past glory and hang up his boots. I wonder what he has to say about that now.

    Dravid's average the past two years is 57. Yeah, I know, not believable but you can check and it is true. Its just that Dravid hasn't played very noticeable innings but he has performed nevertheless.

    I agree the likes of Pujara should be in the squad, but certainly not at the cost of Dravid. If anyone should be replaced to make way, maybe it should be Raina. Its not as if he's made the place his own. Maybe he should make way for Pujara.

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 9, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    @BioPhysics, please check your numbers and stop trying to inflate them..the 2011 is not even here and you are including it in calculating Dravid's average? Some fan you are! from 2006 onwards Dravid's story is a story of sad decline. Even a blind person can see that.

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 9, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    Indian cricket team's interest should not be confused with the interest of Rahul Dravid. I agree with Hema, it is time for him to say goodbye. He is not scoring runs, getting people run-out and dropping catches.

  • jay57870 on November 9, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Just like the MRF balloon pretending to be a blimp, Ian you are once again showing how full of hot air you are! We've seen you're fake prophecies before: Anointing JP Duminy the Next Big Thing. So why should we believe you this time? Leave Pujara and Dravid alone. Ian, it's pathetic how little you know about Staying Power -- The physical endurance and mental toughness: The ability to handle adversity; to play through pain and injury; to bounce back from fatigue and slumps; and, yes, to face the constant scrutiny of the media (!) and public and nowadays even outside threats. Dravid exemplifies this Staying Power, along with Tendulkar and Laxman. Remember the Chappell Brothers - Ian with his silly "mirror, mirror on the wall" dictum to Sachin to retire and Greg with his misguided high-handed style toward the old order. Don't mess around with the backbone of the team. Age is not the determining factor. Pujara's turn will come in due course. Ian, Man Up: You're dead wrong!!

  • alfaomega on November 9, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Chappel is actually right in a way. Not that we discard Dravid, but Pujara should have definitely got the chance to play the entire series against NZ. Either in place of Raina who definitely isnt test match potential, or in rotation to some of the senior guys. Why couldnt Sachin, Laxman and Dravid have been rested for a match each against NZ? And give Pujara the chance to ease into test cricket. He would have been up and ready for the series in SA if one of the senior guys has an injury or loss of form.

  • itssudeep on November 9, 2010, 11:55 GMT

    @AussieOzieoioi: Is Pujara a Brahmin? I don't know. But more importantly, it doesn't really matter. And I don't think caste has mattered much when it came to selection matters in India anytime in the recent past. All this talk about not making it big if you're not from one of the upper castes is a seriously dated, flawed and prejudiced western notion of the Indian society. Maybe a certain number of players happen to belong to a particular community, which doesn't prove anything - in a country as diverse as India, you can take any particular cross section of people and you can come up with any kind of sociological conclusions you want. Please be a bit more aware before you hazard such views in future. (Just for the records, I am not a Brahmin - just thought it appropriate to clarify certain myths.)

  • TimmyF_23 on November 9, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    I'll tell you why Pujara was dropped. Its actually quite simple. Becasuse old Indian players such as Dravid, Tendulkar, and Laxman (to a degree) refuse to help Indian cricket move forward and build for the future. These three players (particuarly sachin) have achieved everything there is to achieve and they simply are only playing for their own personal milestones and stats. So why continue to play? Retire? Give these super talented guys like Pujara who are the future of Indian cricket, a proper crack at international cricket!!! Sadly it wont happen any time soon...

  • kiranthez on November 9, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    @TRAM When Gambhir was going all blazing in the first 2 years of his international cricket, they called him the next wall. When Raina scored that wonderful century followed by his marvelous couple of innings against Sri Lanka, they called him the next best thing in the middle order. But what are we seeing now? People like Ajay Jadeja are asking for Gambhir's head now. If Raina fails in the next match, I'll not be surprised if there are more cries for his head too. New parts are good, but will the new parts be of the same quality as the old ones? This is TEST cricket my friend. A totally different ball game. He is only next to Tendulkar in this country of great cricketers. He is one among the only 5 to have scored more than 10,000 runs in the history of both Test and ODIs. They said that 20-20 is not for Dravid. He proved everybody wrong. Check Not long ago Wasim Akram had said that Dravid has a lot of offer in ODIs too. Dravid is an unselfish assiduous fighter. Don't write off Dravid.

  • Venkat_Super_11 on November 9, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    I fully agree with Ian. Dravid is just fighting for his survival and he is no more a match winner, compared to Sachin or Laxman, let alone rookies like Raina and Ishant. Dravid must gracefully exit international games and pave way for much dynamic players like Pujara, Vijay and Jaffer. Very good article and well researched one.

  • Biophysicist on November 9, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    @Hema-Adhikari - You said Dravid is averaging in the low 30s during the last 3 years. For your information, his average since 01 Jan 2008 is 42.61. Certainly lower than the high standards that he has been maintaining before, but certainly not bad enough that you and I should tell him to quit or tell the selectors to drop him. Sachin Tendulkar also had lean period during 2005 - 2007 when he averaged 42.48, but look how he has perfomed since then (average of 65.02 since 01 Jan 2008). Please give Dravid the respect he deserves and let him decide when he should quit. I am sure just as Sachin is capable of judging when to quit, Dravid can also make a decision based on his assessment.

  • Rumy1 on November 9, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    Laxman is perhaps the best batsman in world right now. Gambhir must make way for Jaffer. It's time to get the country's best bat who is not in the team back into the team. Technically and temperamentally Jaffer is the most well equipped for No.2 position and is a much better option than Vijay in Tests. Dravid must retire now. He clearly is struggling these days. Time for him to bid adieu. Pujara must be brought back in. Raina must go. He is good for ODIs and T20s but doesn't have the technique or temperament for Tests. No, Yuvraj shouldn't replace Raina. Yuvraj has got enough Test chances and is good for ODIs & T20s like Raina. Rohit like Yuvraj doesn't merit a Test place either. Kaif deserves a Test chance provided Dhoni agrees. Kaif as a wounded tiger will grab the opportunity with both hands and could be a threat for MSD as a potential future Test captain. Else Badrinath merits a Test cap. Ishant needs to be brought back in the Test XI. He is a special talent. Ojha must be persisted

  • Abhimanyu on November 9, 2010, 8:27 GMT

    Its not like Dravid will play for India forever, he is getting very close to retirement so giving opportunity to player like Pujara to cement his place in the team is very vital in ensuring that India stays ahead or ortherwise they could also be affected and lose their dominance over other teams when their senior players retire, just like Australia did. I am not saying drop Dravid, but why play him in a low-key series like this one when you need a player who could replece him after he retires......

  • Pradeeps_Speed on November 9, 2010, 7:37 GMT

    @Hema_Adhikari, Dravid was, is and will think and play for the sake of the team. Knowing him, he is sure to realise when to hang his boots. For now he believes he has more to contribute and so we need to trust him and let him concentrate on his game. Come guys, he has just scored a century. If you think he scored only because the track was flat, why didn't Raina or Dhoni or Gambhir score runs? What you say about transition is right but Dravid is matured enough to understand when to quit. Let us have him to grind the opposition and help others take advantage of the tired bowlers. He has a specific role to play in the team and he is doing an excellent job. Look what happened after Warne quit. He retired when he was still doing well. If he had continued playing, Australia would have dominated for another 1 year at least. Now that he has retired, Australia are struggling to find a quality spinner though many showed a lot of promise. Legends are difficult to replace and Dravid is a legend.

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 9, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    (contd) We are all his fans and no one is demeaning him in any way but we all want India to succeed first and foremost. If he plays against SA and beyond I will be rooting for him but if he decides to hang his boots we shall give him a farewell to remember. Sachin would retire in couple of years as well and so would Laxman, do we want to suddenly loose all our greats or do we want to have a transition plan in place. All you Dravid fans are shooting the messenger and not looking at the big picture. Do you see Sachin and Rahul batting till they are 42, if not what is the plan?

  • Hema_Adhikari on November 9, 2010, 6:37 GMT

    Why was Pujara dropped? To keep Rahul Dravid, and to follow indian tradition of seniority where younger generation rides along but does not push the elders. This system has its own merit as youngsters learn a lot from someone like Sachin or Dravid in the team. But the downside is that sometimes the wait gets too long and the fading star dims slowly putting Indian team performance at risk. Yes, Rahul was a great batsman and in most of the Indian wins abroad he has played a leading role but we can not ignore the fact that over last three years he is averaging in low 30s and getting out in the similar fashion. If he was 30, there need not be any panic as we know Rahul is a class act and class is permanent but he is 38. He must tie-up the loose ends and call it a day. If not Pujara someone else will come along, new shoots will sprout but first dead wood must be cleared. It is not fair to say Pujara has not done this and that for he has not got a decent chance yet. Get over hero worship!

  • Meety on November 9, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    LOL - all the comments baging Ian for having an opinion on whether Dravid should make way for Pujara. The people bagging Ian on this point are NOT living in the real world. At some point in the not-too-distant future VVS, SRT & Dravid will retire, this will of course leave a vacuum, but if managed correctly does not have to result in a massive freefall. Learn from other dynasties - mark my words if new talent isn't blooded at the expense of older heads, India will crash down to Earth faster then you can say OOPS! Who knows if India beat Sth Africa away from home maybe all 3 will retire at once!

  • Pradeeps_Speed on November 9, 2010, 5:30 GMT

    @Fancric, wonderful comments. Your thoughts should have come from a person like Ian Chappel. Australians are known to disturb the winning combination using the mental ways. Ian, Ashes is nearing so better concentrate on that and leave India's fortunes to India. Check your own stats and compare that with Dravid's. That will shut your mouth forever. England just won the tour game and Australia just lost the one day series to SL. Reserve your comments for Australia. Don't ever dare to comment about Dravid or Sachin or Laxman or Sehwag or any other Indian player.

  • Pradeeps_Speed on November 9, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    @STalluri - looks like you have watched only one test match in your life time, that was India's last match against Australia. Dravid can only score runs on dead tracks? Are you kidding buddy? What an insane comment is this? Please check out his away record my dear friend. He is better than even Sachin when it comes to scoring runs on lively pitches (No offence to the great batsman). You can't judge Pujara based on one performance though he looks a good prospect. Dravid has already scored a century and we two more matches in this series. Hope you will have the face to post your comments after the SA series for Dravid is going to show the world what he is made up of. He is an extremely hardworking, dedicated and committed cricketer who plays for the team. Dravid will come out as a winner for sure.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on November 9, 2010, 5:05 GMT

    @ Ian bashers : I appreciate the fact that Ian has the self confidence and self image to comment on matters cricket pertaining to other countries, for what it is worth, from his perspective and understanding of things. Contrast this with the fact, that you don't find a single Indian writing on player selection and possible outcomes in the Ashes. For those who ask Ian " why don't you write about Ponting", I ask what prevents Indian columnists to write about Ponting? Do you see a mirror now in front of you?

  • on November 9, 2010, 4:09 GMT

    I too think that somehow Pujara should have been in. Be it at the cost of Dravid or Gambhir. It is not so easy to rest Dravid on account of his seniority and the media should start crying foul. Probably we could have named Gambhir still unfit and let Pujara played. He really deserves a second chance after that impressive innings at Bangalore.

  • mumbaiguy79 on November 9, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    Chappell dude, you got to take it easy. No doubt Pujara looks like a future India bat, but you just can't replace some one like Dravid who is going through a lean patch. I think your opinion on Indian cricket doesn't matter. As most comments here have pointed out that you were plain wrong on Sachin a few years ago. So take a chill-pill mate.

  • mraviteja on November 9, 2010, 2:02 GMT

    Rome cannot be built in One day.....You cannot judge a person on 1 innings...Dravid is in a different league all together. If its in my hands I would have taken Dravid in the ODI's as well. He is far better a batsman than Kohli, Rohit, Raina, Yuvi & Dhoni even when it comes to ODIs.

    Remember why Dravid was dropped from ODIs...Its not because of his form...But due to politics in the selection board. The India England series in 2007 was a very good one for Dravid..In this match ( ODI no. 2613 | 2007 season, Played at County Ground, Bristol 24 August 2007 - day/night (50-over match)) Dravid scored 92 from 63 balls.. with s/r 146.03...He was the Captain at that time.... Then due to some conflict with the board he resigned the captaincy the following series..It was Ind vs Aus in India..That series he was dropped.......This was very unfair with Dravid.......

  • Dharanz on November 9, 2010, 1:01 GMT

    Ian, you made a very good point here. By giving a chance to Pujara means that someone with Dravid's caliber has to sit down and this by no means would be a ideal choice for the Indian Team. what if Pujara fails with this no match team, New Zealand, which has the weakest side recently but you can also see a positive side of this match, where Dravid can get a match opportunity to get back in form..and he sure did the later one..Pujara should not be thrown into lime light here, wait for until Dravid and Lazman retires from test cricket and by then he'll be fully ready to cope against the likes of Steyn, Johnson, Anderson, Finn, etc....Pujara is great talent, no doubt on that. He came down the track to Hauritz in his first few deliveries and that was sign of batting with great confidence...like the Aussie way...not a big fan of Indian team but still wanted to drop some of my views on what Ian Chappell thought.....

  • Peter_Walters on November 9, 2010, 0:41 GMT

    My yardstick of a top player is whether he has TOP 10 innings that either saved or won a test match. Let us highlight them for Dravid, Sehwag,T'kar, and Laxman. This is better than talking about averages. This will also silence the crtics.

  • test_cricket_lover on November 9, 2010, 0:38 GMT

    "Preferring Rahul Dravid over the highly impressive Cheteshwar Pujara for the first Test against New Zealand..." In which world Ian Chappell is living?? Pujara has played one Test, at home, and has made an important half-century. Yes, he throughly deserve to play the immediate next Test that India plays. But it shouldn't come at the cost of some one who has played 148 Tests and still continuing to contribute. It's not ethical to remove Rahul Dravid for such reasons. Pujara is only 22 and has got a colorful future ahead. Even the great Steve Waugh was in and out of the Australian team until he was 27. Dhoni has said words of wisdom to both Pujara and Vijay at the start of the Test and that's the best way to handle the situation. And that's why he's the best captain!

  • Mehras on November 8, 2010, 23:30 GMT

    Bravo Ian. first Tendulkar and now Dravid.. Get Ready Laxman its yoru turn now. Ian seems to be obsessed by playing Sehwag against other Indian batsman. Wonder why his vocabulary dries up about Ponting....

  • on November 8, 2010, 22:51 GMT

    Ian Chappell said the same thing about Tendulkar a while ago, and Tendulkar proved him wrong. I like Ian's opinions at most times, but I know that he is wrong this time, like he was wrong with Tendulkar. Dravid still deserves to be in the Test team, just going by his record. As did Tendulkar, even when he had a bad few years. Dravid will come good -- and when he does retire, Pujara will no doubt replace him.

  • on November 8, 2010, 22:26 GMT

    Rahul Dravid is a champion and should bowout when he's ready end of story.....

  • on November 8, 2010, 22:06 GMT

    Rubbish interpretation of cricketing events..!As someone noted before in comments, I too remember Ian pondering if 'the time' was right for sachins retirement... thank god sachin doesnt; listen/read such articles (unfortunately we do !!! ) I am surprized how on the same token he has not called upon Ponting;s retirement seeign his form dip considerably in last 1 year!! Back to Indian team selection Two new players are staking claims in the middle order - Raina/Pujara If Pujara needs to be blooded in - Raina needs to sit out .... how can someone suggest blooding in 2 new players in the test team at the same time ?

    Dravid's painstaking 100 would be very welcome when youngsters throw their wickets away (expecting a short ball or playing on the up on a seaming wicket ).. and everyone knows that is going to happen with Pujara and Raina more often early in their career ...(and both will improve to be good batsmen eventually)

  • STalluri on November 8, 2010, 22:05 GMT

    Ian Chappell is right. Dravid should be dropped. He can only score runs on dead wickets and against weak bowling attacks. In South Africa he will not be able to buy a run. This was an ideal opportunity for the selctors to play Pujara who is an attacking batsman.

  • on November 8, 2010, 21:36 GMT

    To Riyas Izzedeen,

    If these same comments came from someone else, many people from India would really appreciate it... It comes from a man who said Sachin Tendulkar is done and will no longer score runs!! He is also the man who said Virender Sehwag's days were over when he was going through a lean patch...And he is also the man who said the Indian Cricket team would never be a world beating team... seriously, Ian Chappel may know about Cricket, but his judgment about players and their abilities is abysmal. I do think Cheteshwar should have got a look in and probably should have been tested against NZ, but his day will come and Dravid's days are not yet over!

  • arun.pras on November 8, 2010, 21:02 GMT

    Chappell dude, while you are talking sense about Pujara, to come up with a statement like "although he's never been a dominant player" about Dravid, is sheer BS on your part. Hard to imagine that you are an ex-cricketer and a current cricket analyst. Pls do some homework before commenting.

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 8, 2010, 20:44 GMT

    Ian Chappel is not always right but let's accept this time he is. Rahul Dravid is old and clue less and selectors should fire him immediately as he is creating pressure on batsman downstream and running out players who can actually win the game.

  • ravichakra on November 8, 2010, 20:38 GMT

    @Emancipator007 How many matches has Sachin or Gavaskar won us? Definitely lesser than Dravid or Laxman. If he could not collar any attack, how come against the very Aussie attack he double up with Laxman to change the course of Test history for India so much so that the Aussies have given up on enforcing follow on after that Test. Again, it was not Sachin or Gavaskar who collared the Aussies to win the Test match at Adelaide in 2003 and thus draw the series for the first time. Who collared the attack in NZ for the first ever series win? Who collared the attack for the first ever series win in WI? Who collared the attack in Pak for the first ever series win? Neither Sachin nor Gavaskar but it was the ever dependable Dravid. He is India's highest run getter this decade and look at the way he is treated - shabbily to the core. His critics need to bring up some statistics to the table before they can comment on him or his retirement.

  • Pujara on November 8, 2010, 20:26 GMT

    I agree with Chappell in this case. When it comes to Indian cricket there is no shortage of batting talent but the most important thing is, after identifying the true talent we should persist with the same individual to give him more exposure to Int'l cricket. It would have made perfect sense to give Pujara a series to get some valuable experience. As Chappell opinioned, if the move backfires then they can always go back to RD to add more experience to the line up. Pujara is surely lacking experience of RD in int'l cricket but that kid has toured around the world with A teams and scored some fine tones in places like Aus, NZ and UK. In some of the away series if we fail we as fans say, WHAT IF our selectors would have gone with x,y and z player then a, b and c. Unfortunately there is nothing can be done once the match or series is completed. NZ is certainly no push over but it would have made perfect sense to give opportunity to young Pujara after the way he helped won the match for us

  • ravichakra on November 8, 2010, 20:17 GMT

    Can we have some statistics to back these arguments that Dravid is hanging by his finger nails? The only match that India won in Australia - he scored 93. What was Sachin's score in that match? In the series thereafter against SL - India were reeling at 32 for 4, Dravid scored 177. How much did Sachin score in that innings? Dravid scored 144 and was dismissed by Laxman (dropped by the bowler to run out Dravid). How much did Sachin score in that match?After his injury in Bangladesh, he has been in inconsistent form for two series and people talk about his retirement. Another piece of statistics - what has been Sachin's strike rate when the two have played together? Not significantly different, how come only Dravid stems the flow and is regressive? Come up with statistics or shut up. Stop bashing a match winner / saviour all the time. Give him at least half the credit that is wastefully bestowed on Sachin who cracks at the very hint of pressure.

  • jimmy321 on November 8, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    For the first time i think i may agree to what ian chappel has said and others like me wud agree too.See dravid performance in last 2 years and you will realize tht he is nowhere as fluent and classic he was.His innings of 91 odd at perth in australia during tht famous win was not tht fluent although it helped india win,but it was far from his standards as he cud not time even fulltoss balls in tht innings early in the innings>but i still praise him for his temperament and will to succeed and be as his past.But not everyone is sachin tendulkar or vvs laxman who can be fluent after losing form inbetween and then regaining it. See the laxman and his batting form.I have never seen him struggle for his runs except in his earliest test carrier.He always gives his wickets to bowlers and not the bowlers earn his wicket.I think laxman shud be regarded as equal to steve waugh in saving matches for india in 2nd innings.y i think dravid cud be valuable in series of south africa as he canstayatwkt

  • ravichakra on November 8, 2010, 20:04 GMT

    @Martinhooks - How much did the other so called greats score of 100 balls, not significantly higher. Dravid at least caught up on that and scored his next 87 runs in 127 balls. How much did Sachin score 40 off 138 balls? Did you lose the momentum then? People in India seem to bay for Dravid's or Laxman's blood at the first signs of failure. These are the very guys who have won / saved many a Test matches both at home and overseas. Public memory is so short including that of Ian Chappell - who saved the team in the first innings of the Sri Lanka Test played at Ahmedabad a year ago (India was 32 for 4 with all top 4 gone)? Dravid scored 177 and along with Yuvraj saved the match. Who is India's highest run getter this decade? It is Rahul Dravid, yet people seem to bay for his blood the moment he sinks instead of encouraging him or boosting his confidence. Was the sentiment the same when Sachin scored 116 runs in 8 innings? Not really. Rahul is and will be the best No.3.

  • mdavidwesley on November 8, 2010, 19:54 GMT

    Lot of things Ian said are correct. But to say that India would have won if Dravid played faster is an indication of lack of logical imagination. One should realize it was only Sehwag who could play shots as he liked on the first day. The wicket demanded such an innings from Dravid. Ian wouldn't have written this kind of article on Dravid if Sehwag had got out cheaply and Dravid had scored that 'slow' hundred'. Rather, he would have praised Dravid for playing an important innings. Dravid's 104 is as crucial to the match as any other.

  • SrikanthReddi on November 8, 2010, 18:09 GMT

    Mirror (Less) Man.. why do you worry about Rahul Dravid? Why don't you talk about Ponting who hangs there at Number 3 with uninspiring knocks? Take care of your own side.

  • anil.thotada on November 8, 2010, 18:02 GMT

    I too agree wtih Ian chappel,his candid comments on dravid were correct,if he would scored his hundred quickly then this match result would be different.this is the right series to test pujara.today Indians declaration also came late,India need to be more aggresive,if India would have declare the innings earlier there is a chance of winning

  • Sanks555 on November 8, 2010, 17:47 GMT

    1- As a human being and cricket lover, Ian Chappell has every right to comment on any team. 2- Why Chappell did not discuss the possibilities of dropping Ponting is best left to him. Perhaps he thinks Ponting can bounce back or he is a Ponting fan? If dropping Ponting is best for Australian team and he does not advocate that, he is not a sympathizer of Aussies. 3- Pujara is a serious talent, at least at Test level, and should be given a few more chances to fail. Whom can he replace? I see two probabilities - Raina and Dravid. Dravid scores over Raina in terms of experience and average. So, I believe Pujara should be given chance in place of Raina. Raina has the better Test average, as of now, but Pujara has a much better first-class average.

  • anil.thotada on November 8, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    Ian was right.dravid is not performing well,the way he is scoring runs very slowly,to say frankly if he scored his hundred quickly then this match would ended with result in indias favour.i think many indian fans live in the past records,but in sports one should look present and future,there is nothing wrong if we give rest to dravid for sometime and test young pujara..

  • sahilbhai on November 8, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Ian gets more attention as such he comments on Indian team since his comments are not regarded when he talks about Australia

  • on November 8, 2010, 16:23 GMT

    lol it always cracks me up how the indian public seem to take any negative critism of the idian cricket team so personally. Ian Chappel is entitled to his opinion even if its wrong but please consider that he may know a little more about cricket than you do.

  • AussieOzieoioi on November 8, 2010, 16:12 GMT

    Pujara May find it hard to make it big in international cricket because he may not be Brahmin.

    Or IS he? I read that high caste individuals are given preference during Selection in India.oh and some 7 or 8 players in the current playing eleven belong to that community.please correct me Indiians.

  • knowledge_eater on November 8, 2010, 15:34 GMT

    I thought only Indians like spice. Spice Spice spice burn burn burn. Mouthwatering stuff.

  • sunneyl on November 8, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    PONTING, HUSSEY, CLARKE - all miserable failures and IAN does not think anyone needs to be dropped - but RD scores a century and a debutant who has played only one match so far - he wants to be taken in for RD - this guy is suppossed to be one of the brains of cricket - what a pity!! IAN - please retire and ask your younger brother to hang up boots as well because you dont seem to be retiring Hussey's, Clarks and Pontings. Write an article convincing your brother to drop any of these three for a start.

  • pom_basher on November 8, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    Ian Chappel must be out of his mind.

  • sparth on November 8, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    As usual, Ian Chappel puts out another absoultly rubbish article. Does this man even know what he is talking about?!?! Dravid is an amazing player, and his tempermant and calmness at the crease is just what we need. If we had pujara in at no.3 in the last match, then we most probably would have lost it. Instead of talking about Dravid who kept the innings together with Sehwag, why not make an article about how Ponting should be dropped, but of course, being an Aussie, you would never want to do that against your own countryman, even though Ponting has been on the decline and old age is definatly catching up to him. Dravid only bats slowly in tests, in T20, he has a strike rate of about 120, which is fairly close to Tendulkar's yet people still are giving him a hard time. This article is just an attack on a brillant player

  • Divinetouch on November 8, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    Hello Ian,

    Please let us your know thoughts on whether Ponting should retire.

  • manasvi_lingam on November 8, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    Hey Ian, stop cribbing and writing rubbish. Ponting isn't doing so well either. Hmmm, in fact, maybe they should "rest" him and give Khawaja a go in the Ashes! This is nonsense and so are your statements.

  • Abhimanyu on November 8, 2010, 14:15 GMT

    I AGREE, with everything that he Chappel said. It seems that only Ian Chappell has the guts to say the truth, the rest will keep praising Rahul Dravid no matter what his age is. On Jan. 11, 2011 he will turn 38 years old, heck why not play him till he turns 50 and wait till he completes that stupid landmark of 200 catches in test matches. And untill then Pujara can score as many triples n doubles he likes, he will not be given a chance to play until the greatest batsmen ever in the history of cricket, who can not be replaced by anyone in the entire universe retires..... These guys don't think that Pujara or in fact anyone out of the 100,000 players who play cricket at the domestic level in India can become a better player then Dravid.

  • murthydn16 on November 8, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    Chappel should look at ponting who has been pathetic before commenting on Dravid. Dravid though struggled, he never gave up. Dravid has won matches all over the world and was THE MAN around whom the Indian batting revolved during Indian victories over seas. He thro is going thro lean patch as every one has been, but that should not be the reason to dump him. When he has won so many matches for India, he has to be given a fair chance to resurrect his career though he is on the wrong side of 30. Dravid is more required in Africa where others would struggle to stick on to the wicket. Ponting on the other hand is not only a failure as batsman and has struggled with out super players in his team. Pnting was successful only because of mcgrath, warne and gilchrist. With out them he is no one as is being proved now. Ponting has struggled in India with out winning a match where has Dravid has won matches all over the world including Australia. Chappel should air his view about ponting.

  • sriramsv81 on November 8, 2010, 13:03 GMT

    Dravid's fans need to accespt his time is over. SA tour will be his last. His technique mainly poking his bat outside offstump is getting repeated. He is getting weary that seems to make him repeat mistakes. if he scors runs in SA it will be a surprise.

    Chappel was making an honest comment. Parochial fans of India seems to think he should comment only on Australia. These kind of views are really a pity. I have views about England, Pakistan cricket. Because I am from India does it mean that I should not have any views about other teams. Where are we going with this kind of thinking.

    Raina's batting against fast bowling is pathetic. It's all right playing him in India. But where is the foresight to try Pujara when SA tour is coming up. Any fool would drop batsman after a bad series. But common sense would be to see who is more talented and blood that player.Pujara is better than Raina. And should be preferred

  • on November 8, 2010, 12:51 GMT

    Bang on target.. Excellent article..

  • on November 8, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    lol this guy is a joke! i wonder why he doesnt want ponting out since even he flopped for the last two years! but he wants dravid out? he's mad. dravid is important for the south africa series,the 1st series he played there he was india's best batsman! u can't drop him for pujara n u can't judge pujara based on 1 innings

  • RaghuramanR on November 8, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    Wall has not seen the writing on the wall! Many 'influential' past cricketers emphasize too much on the coaching book technique, legacy (NOT LEGEND) and that is why India has nothing to mention post 1983 even in limited overs crickets! In tests, less said the better. India is ranked #1 by ICC and this is the biggest joke. When did India win a test series in West Indies or England or South Africa or Australia? Individual success becomes more important than a team's dismal performance. ICC has just pandered to the financial powerhouse with no relation to performance on ground.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on November 8, 2010, 11:55 GMT

    I guess the Aussies will now soon learn that Dravid's got a very strong fan base too and saying anything against Dravid will bring them on! :P

  • DjforU on November 8, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    @emceeabhishek : like ur comment

    ya uncle plzz tell y omit rahul darvid

  • tendravid on November 8, 2010, 11:42 GMT

    Ian, Iam sorry this is just a load of crap. If you havent noticed on this pitch even ross taylor a fairly attacking batsman sr was 45. Can you please talk abotu mike hussey whose average is just below 50 after just 60 matches. Dravids is 52 after 143 matches it takes enormous effort to reach where dravid has. Can you please write an article on Husseys fall before picking on one of the greats of all time.

  • SreenathY on November 8, 2010, 11:29 GMT

    hmm.. Chappell said after 2007 world cup that sachin, dravid and saurav shud retire.. based on worldcup exit.. I really think sachin got better and better after that.. and he is still continuing.. secondly dravid played really well for his 104 in the first innings.. took 151 balls to get his first 50 and only 64 balls to get his second 50.. every player has their own ways of building innings.. I hope chappell understands this.. secondly you look too much into future on the players and teams.. I really dont understand the reason why the media and retired cricketers often speak about future and target current players.. I do agree that we need a gud transition to younger generation but you cant experiment with every position. Other than dravid, sachin and VVS, rest players are quite young and we are pretty safe in this regards.. chappell - dont think too much nor analyze.. present/future indian team batting very well balanced and concerns for now is bowling..

  • Meety on November 8, 2010, 10:58 GMT

    @MinusZero - I think you are on the money re: Ponting dropping down the order. I am also a fan of Khawaja, I felt he should of been blooded in India, (Ithink it would of suited his game a bit more). In regards to Smith, averages aren't everything & I think good judges in cricket think he has alot to give in terms of bowling, hopefully more than Cameron White did! @SudeepSharma_Nepal - well said matey! @Chris_Howard - agreed re: Krezja, but I believe Chappell is saying that MJ is a strike bowler (doesn't have to mean the best bowler). @TheOnlyEmperor - couple of things, 1. Why should Dravid get to play till he scores 12,000 runs this shouldn't matter. 2. I think the reason why Raina is gettin less scrutiny then Dravid is because of age & the fact that Dravid's "lean" patch has been for a while. India must insure against mass retirements ala Oz after the 2007 Ashes.

  • emceeabhishek on November 8, 2010, 10:35 GMT

    Ian chappel has his brains in the wrong place! It's such a shame that and exe international cricketer understands just so little about the game! If you've noticed Dravid's average in 2009, it was a staggering 83 odd that included a tour down to NZ (remember overseas) where he had 4 half centuries. He then made 3 hundreds (177, 144, and 111 n.o.). In 2010, when we went to SL, Dravid invariably got himself in and then out (note 1st test, 1st inn, run out for 18 and 2 nd inn..44). his modes of dismissals in the series and his starts should be taken. Then the Aussies came here, and Dravid made a flamboyant 77 in the first inning and got out to a real good one from dougie, which replicated in the 2nd inning as well (he got 13). The second test was the lone inning where he had to blame himself and in the second inning he scored 21 n.o., looking comfy out in the middle. Now against NZ he made a very well compiled 104 & got a beauty in the second inning. Uncle Ian plz explain why omit dravid?

  • rairatank on November 8, 2010, 9:45 GMT

    Why all these Chappals worry about India more than cleaning their own backyards.Agree Dravid is not as much influential as he was but still? Last 2 years he and Pointing has almost simillar record. So Mr Chappal pls ask your cricket board to change Pointing's batting order or drop him. and its more important since Aussies has been dropped to No. 5 from top.

  • Aussasinator on November 8, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    Well we cannot expect Ian Chappel to comment on Ponting's continuance in the Oz team, but what we can do is look objectively at his statements or suggestions, no harm in it. In this case he is spot on. It takes guts and positive intent to put Pujara in place of a Rahul Dravid, who has emerged a distinct liability to the Indian side. He is the most unfit player for the No 3 slot in any world team, leave alone the No 1 team. India has enough of his momentum losing innings and periodic run outs of top order batsmen. Even in his decent scores, he looks like he's struggling.

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 8, 2010, 7:05 GMT

    If nothing else, Rahul Dravid should go for the sake of himself. He is an intense cricketer and a legend but his time to retire has come. To all who say Pujara has not proved himself yet, that is partly true, but how can a young batsman prove himself when he is not given adequate chances to play in the first place.

  • manisacumen on November 8, 2010, 6:55 GMT

    I agree with Chappel's comments that Rahul Dravid undoes all good work done by Virus. Dravid's position (for me) is at the top of the batting at no.1 or no.6. No.1 when Gauti is not playing. Else he should bat at no.6 just before Dhoni.

    Only when the situation is grim and the team requires him to block, block and bloc, should he come at no.3.

    The no. 3 spot is rightfully VVS'. VVS has long been denied that slot just because RD has been consistent. RD is painfully slow. Had VVS batted at no. 3 more often, he would have scored more than 10k by now. Of course he is a bit inconsistent in comparison with RD. And he himself ruined his chances when he was overly aggressive, when he was given chances at no.3. But now, he should bat at no.3 only.

    As regards, RD's retirement, he is still required in SA. Pujara should have come in for Raina. Raina should only fill in as a replacement in emergency. He is not Test Class still.

    Chappel is not entirely wrong but 40% right.

  • on November 8, 2010, 6:38 GMT

    @fancric now u've spoken the right way out of all the comments here ........so very agree he's under pressure from this media ...so he needs someone to comfort him the whole team needs to makehim feel relaxed though we dunno how it is in the dressing room but when a batsman is relaxed he can perform wonders...the tension of i dunno wht is seen in dravid's face...so the management should talk to him it was gr8 to see kirsten talking to him for a while seems gud he'd regain his confidence back

  • TheOnlyEmperor on November 8, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    The ODI team should have 7 batsmen ( Sehwag, Sachin, Vijay, Yuvraj, Raina, Pujara, Dhoni. Gambhir should be given only a test berth with Vijay as his "replacement". Virat should replace Vijay/Yuvraj/Pujara whoever isn't in form or on the principle of rotation in the ODIs. Raina should be permanent in all forms of the game. There should be a hunt for Dhoni's alternative too. Dhoni's wicket keeping skills (especially moving quickly in anticipation when the ball spins to his right, diving when the ball is bet him and the 1st slip, etc) leave a lot to be desired as is his batting in tests. The "seniors" should see the "replacements" in the dressing room, on every tour, so that they are on their feet. When the seniors are injured/out of form/ retire, the "replacements" will be ready to take over. Dravid is definitely good enough to reach 12000 in Tests. So, let him be.

  • TheOnlyEmperor on November 8, 2010, 5:32 GMT

    I wonder why Rahul is being targeted. The Raina brigade are hardly inspiring confidence when it comes to crunch play. Afterall the only guy more reliable to play in crunch situations in the Indian team after Laxman is Rahul. Sehwag and Sachin are worthless under pressure and in the 4th innings. Dhoni is in the Test side, only because there is nobody else to take on the mantle of captaincy. Dhoni's replacement? Karthik, is hardly confidence inspiring given his scatter-brained approach to batting and running between the wickets. Raina shd be allowed to play his natural game, much like Sehwag. In trying to conform himself to the test-playing stereotype, Raina isn't himself at all and that explains his poor scores. The downward slide of India happened in the 1st innings when Sachin took 140 balls to score 40 on a pitch that wasn't doing anything. It is time, somebody told the "seniors" to play the ball on merit and keep the score ticking, instead of clock watching session to session!

  • Aniket.D on November 8, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Chappel should first sort out issues of Australian Cricket rather than interfering in Indian cricket !! After 7 straight losses in all formats chappel should pay attention towards Aussie Cricket and suggest measures to overcome it !!! And as far as Dravid issue is concerned, no one in the World should tell him what to do and what not to do !! coz he is a legend and statiscally far better player, and human being than Chappel !!! I think Chappel brothers have undertaken task to poke their nosses in Indian Cricket team issues right from selection of players to team line-ups ....

  • arvin on November 8, 2010, 3:48 GMT

    rather than commenting on indian team chappal should be asking aussie selectors why ponting is not being dropped... coz ponting inclusion in the team now will very soon take aussie to the bottom of rankings and even if chappal brothers keep ponting in the team for next decade he cant overtake sachin now in terms of runs or 100's... aussie dominance of world cricket is over...

  • on November 8, 2010, 3:41 GMT

    How does Gautam Gambhir secure his place after repeated failures? Has the selectors forgotten Murali Vijay? When you want Dravid out of the team forever, why don't you think of other non performers such as Suresh Raina. Raina may be great in the shorter versions, but he is not suited for the longer version.

  • rocket123 on November 8, 2010, 3:37 GMT

    Ian Chappell is well respected and accomplished captain. But I am sorry to say that he himself is not as great as a player in stature when compared with Dravid. He is free to give his opinion using his cricketing experience and expertise but he will not be right all the time. And, this time he is dead wrong. Ture, Dravid is not himself since he relinquished captaincy but he is still better than very good players. When Sachin suffered a very lean patch a few years ago, many started to make a noise about his retirement. But great players always come strong and he has proved it. Just wait and see when Dravid is going to be himself again and he scores a fabulous double hundred. We need to have belief in him and let him get mentally strong the way he was 2 yrs ago. Thanks and please no Dravid bashing again.

  • IPL_is_Thrash on November 8, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    Rahul Dravid is clearly under pressure to maintain his ultra-high standards set by himself. No players, as senior as, Rahul Dravid has faced such a situation as Dravid himself. This is clearly an indication that Rahul Dravid picks himself into the team by his form, performance and not because of others mercy. Now question is whether Rahul Dravid's time is up or not. Should he be retained or dropped. My answer to this question is - Bring soothness & calmness to Rahul Dravid's. He has done wonders during his career to Team India. This is the time for Selectors, Coach, Captain to standby Rahul Dravid and give him sense of security to try his best. If he fails - I am sure Rahul Sharath Dravid will give up for the sake of Team India's wellness.

  • ankitgupta_cric on November 8, 2010, 2:55 GMT

    C'mon, no wonder your opinions hardly matter. Why would you replace Dravid and not Raina with Pujara? "Dravids hundred against NZ was predictable"??? Are you kidding me?? I might not agree with every decision BCCI makes but this is a totally ridiculous suggestion. Also BCCI please remove Mr Srikkant from the chairman of selection committee......I don't want Goni to play for India in tests or Vidyut! God knows who CSK will buy this time in auction and which idiot will next make to the Indian Cricket team.

  • on November 8, 2010, 2:47 GMT

    India, India. What England wouldn't do for a couple of your spare batsmen for the Ashes. Pujera or Raina would walk into the England team right now, both are excellent players. And didn't Gambir recently score six hundreds in successive tests? How can you think of dropping him after a couple of bad games? Alistair Cook scored a hundred about three years ago which is keeping him in the team, and despite failing twice against Western Australia no doubt he'll still be second on the team sheet after Strauss. He used to be decent but if he scores more than 200 runs over the series I'll be pretty surprised.

  • sammykent on November 8, 2010, 2:34 GMT

    Excellent article. More so for the comments about the state of the Australian team than the Indian team though. Dravid is a solid batsman that you can count on to anchor an innings. Even if he only gets 30 or 40 he is going to have been at the crease for about half a day supporting the more aggressive batsmen. Pujara will get plenty of chances in the future and it bodes well for India that they have good players ready to step up to the national side. Australia on the other hand have lots of issues. Ferguson must be included in the Ashes squad, no question. 1. Katich 2. Watson 3. Ponting 4. Clarke 5. Ferguson 6. Hussey 7. Smith 8. Johnson 9. Hauritz 10. Hilfenhaus 11. Bolinger 12. DJ Hussey / C White / A Voges..... There is no place for Siddle or North at the moment. Siddle can hold an end up but Australia need more incisive bowlers. Hilfy takes wickets and Bolinger is an outstanding bowler. Johnson is safe if he can justify his batting and be a strike bowler.

  • SudeepSharma_Nepal on November 8, 2010, 1:42 GMT

    I can imagine why there is a flurry of comments n all with resentments 4 Ian.It's OZs way to speak out about SB on their present no matter how big they have achieved in the past.They have castigated their own key players for failures and they like 2 think similarly 4 other nationalities.But he should take care now if h...e is doing it 2 the Indians.I can understand he is equally friendly with everyone.The angst with Ian of all those people is coz he pointed finger 2wards Sachin and Sachin is venerated as God here in India where Cricket has been like a religion.But my dear friends don't be too cynical with this religion.Sachin was going through a dreadful period n his approach was totally negative wen Ian spoke out on it.I don't know there will ever B a repalcement 4 Tendulkar so he shouldn't have said that.I was disheartened 2 read it coz I watch cricket just 4 him.But with Dravid (Pujara in backdrop) it's different.I don't know if he can prove Ian wrong just like Sachin..

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 8, 2010, 0:51 GMT

    Good question! Why was a 22 year old impressive player was dropped for a 38 year old player. I know everyone will jump in to say Rahul has done this and that in the past and he is no doubt right up there with Sachin, Gavaskar and Sehwag as the modern Indian master of batting but he is in decline and must make way for Pujara. Otherwise in couple of years, just like Australia, all these great players will go at once and India will have to build from scratch. Worse, there will be no one to guide these young batsman. But Indian selectors always give such a long rope to establish players that it ends up being the noose around their neck just as in case of Kapil Dev and Ravi Shashtri.

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 8, 2010, 0:44 GMT

    One surely understands that it is test cricket and no one needs go berserk but 17 of 100 balls when guy at the opposite end is scoring more than run a ball is frustrating to say the least. Test cricket is a game of momentum and once it is lost; seldom regained. Thats what happened in this test, once momentum was lost India just slipped further and further away. Surely Rahul is not the only one responsible after all Raina and Gambhir failed miserably but since he is a senior batsman he must take more responsibility and assert himself. Unable to do so he should retire so at-least we can at-least see one Indian great going on his own term rather than being carried kicking and screaming.

  • Dravidfan315 on November 8, 2010, 0:23 GMT

    For those of you saying this was a slow poke hundred, agreed it was slow but his last 85 runs came at a strike rate of 71! He is definitely not at his best but once he gets some time in the middle, the runs start flowing and he performs. Also, if it wasn't for his hundred in the 1st innings, India would be reeling and trailing by 100 runs or so. "although he's never been a dominant player" <-- That's just a very sad statement to hear from someone as respected as Ian Chappell. Dravid was clearly India's most valued and most important player throughout most of the 2000s.

  • SirBobJones on November 8, 2010, 0:16 GMT

    One or two of you peeps are confused between the Chappell brothers. Greg is the recently appointed Australian selector, not Ian. On the Dravid issue though, it's a seniority thing - senior players are treated differently in that part of the world. In Australia, NZ, England, etc., if you're an older player you're worthy of less respect; on the sub-continent you're worthy of more. If it gets too OTT, they'll drop him though. Don't worry, Pujara will have a long and illustrious career at the top level.

  • SudeepSharma_Nepal on November 8, 2010, 0:04 GMT

    I can imagine why there is a flurry of comments n all with resentments 4 Ian.It's OZs way to speak out about SB on their present no matter how big they have achieved in the past.They have castigated their own key players for failures and they like 2 think similarly 4 other nationalities.But he should take care now if h...e is doing it 2 the Indians.I can understand he is equally friendly with everyone.The angst with Ian of all those people is coz he pointed finger 2wards Sachin and Sachin is venerated as God here in India where Cricket has been like a religion.But my dear friends don't be too cynical with this religion.Sachin was going through a dreadful period n his approach was totally negative wen Ian spoke out on it.I don't know there will ever B a repalcement 4 Tendulkar so he shouldn't have said that.I was disheartened 2 read it coz I watch cricket just 4 him.But with Dravid (Pujara in backdrop) it's different.I don't know if he can prove Ian wrong just like Sachin..

  • Meety on November 7, 2010, 23:55 GMT

    @mak102480 - the problem India will face (apart from the SA tour), is that their middle order could all retire in a very short period of time. They need to hedge against this, & at the moment Dravid (as great a batsmen as he was & still is), looks the most vulnerable. SRT & Laxman are looking really good, whereas Dravid's form is scratchy. The big Test in Sth Africa is how well India's aging middle order cope with the Pace & Bounce that they will face. This could really show up where their form is really at. The biggest Father Time has on a batsmen is in the footwork & split second reaction time. This could be exposed in Sth Africa(maybe). @Emraan Ali Khan - Khwaja should play for Oz soon - but play for Pakistan? Mate he left there when he was 2! He owes Pakistan nothing, he was developed here in Oz, chances are he may not of made it in Pakistan - due to career vs education. @AsherCA - do not forget that Dravid is actually one of the best slippers ever - particularly statistically!

  • waspsting on November 7, 2010, 23:35 GMT

    I agree Pujra should be in the team... but Dravid isn't exactly a nobody, and it'd be absolutely foolish to disgard him like an old sock. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Dravid returned to scoring hundreds against South Africa... he's an all-time great, and deserves to be persevered with.

    and saying that century proves nothing... might be a little strong (especially given whats happened in the second innings). a hundred is a hundred

  • on November 7, 2010, 23:31 GMT

    Why not promote Laxman top No.3 and drop Dravid to 5. So that he can score more freely and get back to form. Dravid is still good enough. It's good India has so much bench strength. I like the way India tried out Raina. He's settled in now. The same should be done with Pujara.

  • Chris_Howard on November 7, 2010, 23:28 GMT

    Ian... you want Dravid out of Indian team, but you'd retain Hussey in the Australian?! Drop Hussey; get a real opener; send Watto down the order where his 50s will be more appreciated and his bowling better used (he is bowling low 20s since returning to the side!). Bowlers if fit would be Hilf, Bollinger, Johnson, Siddle. And swap out Siddle for a spinner. I'd love to see Krezja get the same support Hauritz has - i reckon he'd do just fine then. Johnson isn't our main bowler. He's never been any good at that job. But with the rotation of bowlers due to injury, he's had to assume that role too often.

  • tanuj_aggarwal on November 7, 2010, 23:08 GMT

    after looking at today's performance i think every1 shud be dropped including sachin sehwag, sachin, gambhir and of course dhoni(if flopping in few innings is a criteria)....i cant think of many overseas victories in which dravid hasn't performed...dravid just needs an assurance from selectors that his test career won't end like his oneday career, and it will be his decision to retire when and where...i can assure u he will be back in full form ...he still has good 2 yrs of cricket left in him....and chappell plz mind ur own work and think about the ashes which you are going to lose ...v already lost dada bcoz of sum1 wid a similar name

  • MinusZero on November 7, 2010, 23:04 GMT

    I dont think Steven Smith is the way to go, i think he is a better batsman than North, but his bowling is only at grade level. 29 first class wickets at 48 with an economy of 3.9 is certainly not test level. Selecting Kwajawa would be better. Drop North, Kwawaja at 3 and drop Ponting to 6. Sooner or later the selectors need to make the hard decisions and bring in some new talent. Retirements of Ponting, Katich and Hussey are only 2 or 3 years away at best. Although Hussey may be forced into retirement if he doesnt perform in the first two tests against England.

  • vijayrc on November 7, 2010, 22:59 GMT

    Ian, You are right..Pujara deserves the place, but not in Dravid's place, but in your favorite Raina's place for the TESTS, as C.Pujara is a 'TEST' batsman, while Raina is still being 'TESTED' in TESTS by bouncers.

  • mak102480 on November 7, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Yes Pujara should be included...but not in place of Dravid but in place of Raina. Age is just a number but Dravid still provides stability to the line up. Raina is a good ODI batsman and when the track is flat and no pressure he can score runs. I am not saying that Pujara can do better - we don't know yet based on one inning. But, he seems to have better technique than Raina and more than anything better temperament.......People talking about Dhoni, he is not the problem. As a WK, his avg of 40 is more than adequate. And his WK over the past 2 years has improved dramatically. There is no such thing as "lucky" captain in TEST MATCH CRICKET. Our fast bowlers have to consistently step up - sreesanth and Ishant - to support Zak; and at some point we will just have to realize that bhajji is not the same match winner we hoped he could be and he is NOT kumble...........About Gambhir, well, the guy had a terrific period of almost 2 yrs. 2010 hasnt been great but he needs to be persisted with.

  • Sweno on November 7, 2010, 22:32 GMT

    In relation to Australia's current woes, my test twelve for the Ashes Series would be: Watson Katich Ponting Clarke Hussey White Haddin Smith Johnson Bollinger Hilfenhaus Doherty

    I think Cameron White should be looked at as a possible future captain. Tactically great in all forms of the game and has the ability to turn a match in a session with the bat, great slips catcher and way under bowled!

  • on November 7, 2010, 22:04 GMT

    Australia must give a chance to young KHAWAJA. If they dont give him a chance he should return and play for pakistan. He is great player any 2 times better than many players in Australian Squad

  • malomay on November 7, 2010, 22:01 GMT

    Nice probing article Ian, Johnson has to go for the good of this Australian Team. he needs to go back to domestic cricket, & show the form that says that he's worth a place in the Australian side. He's had a free ride for his entire career so far, and he needs to be shown that he's not immune from being dropped.

  • on November 7, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    And for all of you saying Pointig must be dropped well Australia simply has no one to replace him with. If the parade of One Day batsmen they have served up is anything to go bye. India seems to have a young gifted crickter than can serve them well for the next decade Youshould consider yourselves fortunate that a youngster is putting up his hands to fill a extremly good payer like Dravid's shoes!

  • on November 7, 2010, 21:02 GMT

    The comments show why India will not be a world power for long. Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman have been excellent servants to Indian cricket. But sentiment is not somthing that can come into reckoning. One of them must go and Dravid has been the worst consistently over the last two years. New blood needs to be brought into the team or in three years India will sit with three new batsmen with no clue. Pujara looks the real deal. Let him bat with Tendulkar and Laxman. When Laxman or Tendulkar calls it a day someone else gets a chance to play with pUjra Gambir and Viru who will be experienced. The sentimentality is an Indian weakness how long did Kapil play where he was nothing more than a passanger. Ganguly was seen as some great when he was nothing better than mediocre and over stayed his usefulness too.

    As a south African I must say it hurt to see Pollock dropped as he was and new he deserved better but in the end of the day that needed to happen for the team to evolve.

  • on November 7, 2010, 20:54 GMT

    "lamentable new zealanders"...there's nothing lamentable about keeping India down to less than 500 in the first innings. In Indian conditions where first innings scores contribute a bigger ratio of the combined innings scores than anywhere else in the world, New Zealand should have been relatively happy with their efforts against the best side in the world, away.

    Whilst I agree it's a conservative call to retain Dravid, he's a class act and any century is a good century. Ian Chappell urged Tendulkar to retire years ago remember - thank goodness no-one listened to that garbage. Will Dravid have a resurgence? Who knows...but what we do know is that Kirsten and Dhoni wouldn't accept passengers so they must be confident he's their best option. They're far more likely to be correct than Chappell.

  • on November 7, 2010, 20:00 GMT

    And funny thing is that people are posting comments like that Dravid should retire when he just scored century in 1st inning when Gambir, Raina, Dhoni etc got flopped and so called god of cricket Sachin scored just 40. We would have lost the match by today had Dravid not scored this century....

  • AsherCA on November 7, 2010, 20:00 GMT

    Dravid has done everything he could, Short of telling the Indian team management that he does not want to play for India in explicit words, to have himself dropped from the Indian 11 - his slow-poke 100 in the first innings just kept the NZ Bowlers interested in the match at Ahmedabad. His incompetent fielding (dropped catch) brought NZ back into the match. Worse - his lack of single judgement backed with selfishness resulted in NZ getting Sehwag's wicket just before his batting incompetence came back to beat India. After this, if we do not see Dravid out of the Indian 11, I would suggest that ICC initiates a match-fixing inquiry against Dhoni & Srikanth. Dravid's past stats might have been brilliant, but today we have a man who forget batting, can't judge a run accurately. Worse, he has clearly put himself above his team when he made Sehwag to pay for his own blunder. Given his past records, if Dhoni & KS want to give him money, give him pension not salary !

  • on November 7, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    Non-sense article. I am agree with Rajesh. It is not Dravid who should be replaced by Pujara but Dhoni, Raina and Gambhir all should be dropped immediately. What happened to Raina's test batsman promise in just two tests. He expects that every delivery will be a bouncer and did you see today that he got out because he was expecting anther bouncer in 3 balls. Do you think this kind of batsman deserve test cap at all? What about Gambhir? Today Ajay Jadeja also mentioned this that indian selectors has different view on Yuvraj and different on Gambhir. he is not performing more last more than a year but still in the team. And should Dhoni be in the team just because he is captin? Laxman deserve the captainship of Indian test team. Drop Dhoni as well. BCCI probably wants to change the name of Indian team to Chennai Super King of Chennai Super Indian. Whoever plays for CSK, automatically deserve the place in Indian team...

    You should be ashamed of writing this article against Dravid.

  • on November 7, 2010, 19:51 GMT

    Firstly, i would strongly criticise those who are such weak believers that they just change their opinion on the basis of some short rough patch, including almost forgotten and nonsense Ian Chappel. It's really a shame to hear from our fellow countrymen about their superficial belief on RD. If they feel he can be replaced by someone who has just come after having couple of fantastic domestic seasons, they are really getting it wrong. Because international pressure is totally different than wat it is in domestic circuit. also how can 1 b sure that the replacement which they think for RD is the best replacement in terms of long years of Test cricket. So, just don't go by wat a handful of zandu people tell you rather use your own brain and think logically atleast 10 times b4 executing such a blunder. The young lad will get his credit as and when the time arrives but never compromise on the dearths of experience brought in by such wonderful and talented sportsmen like RD.

  • kalyanbk on November 7, 2010, 19:51 GMT

    It is important to groom youngsters when they are in form especially in home conditions. Rahul Dravid could have always returned in South Africa. For that matter I do not see why they should drop a centurion in Vijay for Gambhir who is out of form. Gambhir could have benefitted by warming up in domestic cricket. This not to say that Dravid/Gambhir are not great players. It is just that they are so great that the youngers could have benefitted more from exposure in this home series.

  • sweetspot on November 7, 2010, 19:38 GMT

    A WALL? A wall is good for defending against something, but the worst thing to have in front of us when we want to make progress. Dravid has played many crucial innings in situations when India have been in trouble, but he's also put India in many spots of trouble with his slow batting. We have to shift gears and move with the times. Today's young cricketers have enough intent to keep the run rate going. Sehwag is phenomenal in this aspect and one only needed to see how slow and painful Dravid's batting was in comparison to what Sehwag was doing at the other end. Dravid's time was up a while ago, but now, it is inevitable. Let's show some respect to him, but let that not become some sort of prayer!

  • on November 7, 2010, 19:22 GMT

    Ian Chappell is right. Article is perfectly written. Dravid has to perform. Pujara deserves a place.

  • cricketisagame on November 7, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    MukeshN, Its not the question of wasting youngster's talent but how we have to groom the youngsters. Pujara is a talent and should be given a chance but he wont be comfortable in SA, so we need Dravid even if he is 40 (will you be foolish as you grow old) The youngsters should be groomed around seniors. Dhoni, Gambhir, Raina are not in form either.... why you want Dravid to be out... as you said he has left 1 -2 yrs in his career, so let him play and contribute. If the youngsters like Raina are not in form, send them back to Domestic matches to find form.

  • on November 7, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    Become a great player like Dravid, STR or Ponting is not an easy task…. , So many players coming and going, showing full and high temperament in TEST CRICKET long period of time not an easy task. International arena is not a right place for an experiment, for example Australian team gives chance few young players in the national team. Why? Domestic success and one or two good innings not enough to compare or cut such as legend. Potential young player should get chance but here got other many options.. Success and failure (quality and performance) are important rather than age… Shane Warne departure is a great lesson for all big big columnists …….. , looks like their eyes close………

  • kirket_lover on November 7, 2010, 18:06 GMT

    Rahul Dravid is a national treasure. Period. Just compare his stats with SRT's in every match that they played together and you'll easily see that. Pujara & others may have tremendous potential but I would let them get much more experience in the domestic 1st class circuit -- say, until they turn 25 or 26 -- before they are made regular members of the test eleven. The rise of Aus as a Cricket super power in the 90's can be attributed to the fact that players needed to get significant domestic exposure & acquire before they played for the national side. India should adopt similar practices if they want to have players with a good deal of maturity and mental toughness.

  • on November 7, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    India can still win! Lets wait till day 5 finishes. Poor performers should be dropped, they are: Dhoni, Gambhir and Raina. Bring back Pujara, M Vijay and Dinesh Karthik to replace these 3 out of form players. Let's Lax to lead the side for tests. One more wish - R Ashwin should also play, drop one of the spinner.

  • AndyVine on November 7, 2010, 18:00 GMT

    am pretty much confident that if this bloke had enough powers over indian team selection couple of years ago, we would not be waiting for Sachin's 50th century or seen his 175 or the 1st double century in ODIs. he would have him sacked mercilessly or forced him to retire. i mean thats what he is expecting from indian selectors over dravid issue to as idiotic as he is.

  • Achillesofthisera on November 7, 2010, 17:35 GMT

    I guess Ian Chappel should not indulge in any discussion regarding the indian team. He migth be a cricket expert but he was never able to analyse the team india properly.I remember when he said Tendulkar should consider retirment some 4-5 years ago, and now see Tendulkar surpassed everyone, not only surpassed he has now taken his batting to a different level. So pls Mr. Ian worry about your own team Australia. We dont need your analysis.

  • Prats6 on November 7, 2010, 17:33 GMT

    Read arguments of both the sides. I have been a big Rahul fan, his contribution is second to none in Tests and I am a big believer in the talent of Cheteshwar Pujara. Its a very very tough decision at this point in time. You cannot drop a great batsman like Rahul like this. If even now I have to pick either, I would pick RD. My heart goes out for Pujara but he has to wait for his chance.

    Guys show some respect towards your heros. Yes, I have no issues with Rahul/VVS being rested once in a while for young guns like Pujara/Vijay .

  • on November 7, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    I agree with Ian. Dravid is now a liability rather than an asset. Only scores on a flat pitch against a toothless attack. I think he should retire gracefully rather than see the door slammed on his face.

  • on November 7, 2010, 17:14 GMT

    both of the chapell brothers r mad......i thnk ian is a sensible one bt now i hav realized that both of them has gone mad

  • on November 7, 2010, 17:13 GMT

    "Another reason why it's more important to spend lavishly to get the right selectors rather than reward a coach with a big contract" - Please tell me Ian Chappell is joking here! Spoken in shameless self interest, given that he recently turned into a selector. So many problems with this statement: 1) spending to get the right coach v/s spending to get the right selectors are not mutually exclusive; 2) even if they were mutually exclusive, coach is the first priority, since he is the most important selector. Ian Chappell, what have you been smoking recently?

  • cabinet96 on November 7, 2010, 17:13 GMT

    I am really looking forward to South Africa v India and to see if the young Indian batsmen like Raina can live up to expectations against Steyn and Morkel on bouncy faster tracks. Should be a great test for them

  • on November 7, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    Mr. Chappell is just jealous of India's success. He wants to see some other team as No.1 in test cricket. This is one of the classical Aussie attempts to 'sledge' their way against those who are successful. Dravid is the most elegant batsman of our times. While the Tendulkars and Laras will always be the flamboyant greats, Dravid is for the connoisseurs. Obviously we cant expect "convicts" to be connoisseurs, can we?

  • SibaMohanty on November 7, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    All those here who say "Dravid was a good player" "Saves Tests, and not win them," have no cricketing knowledge and have followed nothing but T20s and ODIs. Look back and you all will know Dravid's worth. Look at the overseas wins and you will be able to know what he has done. So far as Ian Chappell is concerned, he is doing his work. But to say replac Dravid with Cheteswar Pujara after just one innings was kid talk at best. Yes, Rahul Dravid knows best when to walk. The rest can stop all the nonsense talk.

  • royalg on November 7, 2010, 16:34 GMT

    i feel india need another backup spinner instead of mishra not very impressed with him and get R.Ashwin in the squad. feel like kholi shud be getting a call soon, raina luking very wonreable under pressure and to me he is an AMAZING ODI player and thats were he shud play.

  • AbhiPro on November 7, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    Maybe Rahul should drop down in the order to make way for Pujara ... I am sure Dravid, even at this stage, would be much much better than Suresh Raina, the ODI and T20 specialist who is getting sorted out at Test level with each innings ...

    But one would have expected better language from Ian with respect to one of the all-time greats. To say that he has been hanging on by his fingernails is a bit too much, mate. An average of almost 40 in the past 4 years is not hanging on by the fingernails.

  • on November 7, 2010, 16:19 GMT

    Ian chappell once again proves brainless with this article..we must always remember what dravid has done for the indian team and esp the south african series a decade back where he went on to hit 7 consecutive half-centuries and every other indian batsmen failed. It is a stupidity to judge a player on just one innings pujaras heroics cannot be considered for a lifetime. Dravid has played and performed better under pressure than any other batsmen.It is pointless to drop dravid considering his recent slump always remember "form is temporary and class is permanent". It is baseless to have aggressive players in test cricket and no one fits the no.3 spot better than dravid and that too in a bouncy track, inexperienced players like pujara and raina could prove nothing. It would be a better bet to include experienced players like subramani badrinath in the place of raina.

  • yogsingh on November 7, 2010, 16:11 GMT

    I wonder why did greg said that ??

    Is this a marketing gimmick ? just to get some more hits on this page ???

    Crickinfo ? I really admire what you guys are doing for cricket ...but these comments are baseless ...

  • on November 7, 2010, 15:31 GMT

    I say kick little Raina out of the team .. a liability for the future.

  • ADSONU on November 7, 2010, 15:24 GMT

    Guys, we better not wasting our time by cursing Dravid...lets not forget he is among the Fav Four batters serving India for over a decade. True,he is not having the best of time offlate, but people have made themselves fool so many times before by questioning the place of any of these greats like Rahul in the team, that I feel surprised to see why,still people run of of patience so early??

  • on November 7, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    RD & VVS ve been lucky! They're displaced from ODI team years back (and ODI team, instead of missing them, has only benefitted from their exclusion). Whatever opportunities others got as gifts, yuvrajs, vijays, rainas and pujaras've come out with some notable innings! (I say these opportunities as gifts because they invariably went to No 6 inrespective of whatever position they used to bat). I can understand many fans upset with Ian's comments here. Indian cricket is different from other countries. Here, the seniors are protected lot. Their place in team, their batting order all are protected. A new comer however talented goes to No 6 & to forward short leg here. Yuvraj waited for years for a test place, Rohit is waiting, theres kohlis, manoj tiwaris, pujaras waiting. Its like you wanna watch World cup football match, but you are fed with Indian league. Had I been RD or VVS, Yuvraj w'd ve played 3 years test cricket now.

  • on November 7, 2010, 15:18 GMT

    rather than bringing in Pujara for Dravid, i wud say bring Pujara in instead of Dhoni... Test matches and Dhoni are like sun and pluto... so far apart that they can never be a part of one another... (n Dhoni isnt contributing even in ODIs off late)

  • sunneyl on November 7, 2010, 15:16 GMT

    How come Ponting continues to be favored by Ian while he comes down harsh on other NO. 3 batsman? Isn't Ponting on the decline and should be put to pastures?

  • niraj13 on November 7, 2010, 15:11 GMT

    Ian Chappel has once again shown how rash and immature his thinking is even though he has been in the cricketing world forever. Pujara is a highly talented young man and he proved that in his gutsy knock in the fourth innings to win the test match for India. But is it worth to give him a place just yet by dropping someone who has scored more than 11,000 runs and who has established himself as one of the greatest batsmen of India. That is the problem with these columnists. Whenever a new talent comes in, they start comparing them with legends of the game. I know when Yuvraj hit a knock of 169 2-3 years ago, he was being compared to Lara. When Sreeshanth performed well in a couple of games when he started, he was compared to Kapil Dev. And above all, the media always dreams who the next Sachin will be. When a new talent comes in, they should be encouraged for sure but comparing them to legends in extremely unfair. Anyways I hope for more matured comments from someone like Ian Chappell.

  • on November 7, 2010, 15:09 GMT

    haha! indians better not fall to such comments from people like Ian Chappel..its a trap!! He wants to cause a downfall for the indian team i guess...

  • on November 7, 2010, 15:01 GMT

    australia should go for another fast bowler or o' keefe...the australians dont have a standard fats bowling lineup and they should look to the youngsters and should even think of dropping johnston...The indians have a dept in available batting talent at this time and they should let all the oldtimers out to graze

  • 68704 on November 7, 2010, 14:59 GMT

    I think India"s problems are far less than Australia"s. Australia got away with selectorial bungles over the last few years because of Gilchrist, Warne and Mcgrath. Today they do not have that luxury. India can perhaps get away with a few errors because of the team"s strength. I think we should not reject Ian"s suggestions merely because he is Australian. I am a great admirer of rahul Dravid, but I think he should bat lower down the order. I think Raina is suspect against pace and bounce and should be rested for the longer version of the game. I think Gambhir is also having the horrors with the bat. If he continues to bat as shakily as he has been batting so far than he needs to take a break. If we are to beat Soouth Africa, we must make major decisions, however tough, whehter dropping Dravid is right is another question. But Australia must decide to drop Johnson if they are to retain the Ashes. He is pathetic and England will feast on him. They should throw Starc to the challenge...

  • pity_aus on November 7, 2010, 14:56 GMT

    India could be the number 1 team in the world at this moment but do they posses the same aura and invincibility (unconquerable) that used to be associated with the Australian team not so long ago. The Indian may look strong on paper with the top 5 batsmen averaging 50 and above but their bowling is just average. If I were the selector I would play Watson, Katich, Ponting, Clarke, Ferguson, North, Haddin, Smith, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger, and Starc. 12th man Johnson.

  • Gulshan_Grover on November 7, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    Dravid is a liability. And so is Harbhajan Singh. Get rid of these two and bring in Pujara and Amit Mishra. Then we will have to unearth a good allrounder and let Sachin and VVS retire gracefully in couple of years time.

  • Pshastri on November 7, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    I think its amazing that fellow cricketer can write such a baseless article. While, I understand they are doing their job, it's almost expected that they use some prudence and cricketing logic. How can one compare Pujara and Dravid? It's absolutely absurd thought. While Dravid might not be in form of his life, he still is able to contribute to the wins, albeit not at the level he has set for himself. Pujara on the other had has played one innings. If he goes to SA, his career might get over before it starts. Dravid is a class act. Mr Chappell, he will retire when he feels that he is not able to contribute to India's winning cause.

  • puneetk87 on November 7, 2010, 14:33 GMT

    Listen guys, it was dropping Dravid from the ODI team that allowed Suresh Raina to blossom into Indias best cricketer in limited overs formats. It is only natural to assume that Dravid is again holding up a place for another young star to come and take over. We love him for what he has done, but unfortunately he is done doing that! Pujara could have also scored a century on that pitch against that line up, so If we give him a chance in SA after Dravid flops and then right him off if he doesnt score is that fair?? Ian Chappel has been wrong in the past, very wrong but I think he has a point with the "regressive" Dravid persistence!

  • cricketisagame on November 7, 2010, 14:10 GMT

    Well Mr. Chapel, it wasn't the great captaincy from Dhoni as he himself told later that he wanted to avoind 2 youngsters together in the middle, Pujara and Raina, and wanted Dravid there in the middle to control the things if the plot failed... but fortunately it worked well.

  • Devd007 on November 7, 2010, 14:01 GMT

    I completely agree with Ian Chapell. Its time for Dravid to go. He was a good player for India, when India needed to SAVE test matches and not WIN them. And in the last 3 years his form has been miserable. As soon as he comes in to bat a pall of gloom and fear seems to descend on the field...suddenly it appears that the opposition is bowling exceedingly well and its has become difficult to score. It affects the morale of Sehwag, and all the other playes in the team. India is currently winning inspite of Dravid, and never because of him. If we want to consolidate our position as the world no.1 team Dravid must be dropped immediately and Pujara/Kohli be drafted in.

  • RogerC on November 7, 2010, 13:56 GMT

    Ian Chappell is absolutely right this time. Dravid is one of the greats but he is past his prime. He should retire before fans start to hate him.

  • cricketisagame on November 7, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    The words, Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable, but it proved nothing, seems very much foolish when you see India's first innings score card. Chapel, Laxman and Sachin did played against the same bowling attack on the same day with much lower SR than Dravid's and if you take away Dravid's ton Indian's first innings is paltry 300 plus. The same lamentable attck undid the strong Indian batting line up, including Sachin and Laxman, in the second innings... what are you talking about??

  • cricketisagame on November 7, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    Chapel, I dont think we have to judge Pujara from one innings he played in Indian condition. You're absolutely wrong in telling that Dravid is a wrong choice to be No 3 in SA. I dont think Pujara even will last longer in SA. Pujare should have a given a chance in NZ series at the expense of Raina since Raina have some experience anyway. Thats the way you grom yougsters by rotating them around the seniors... not replacing the seniors or else India will be like Australia soon... with 7 straight defeats

  • yogsingh on November 7, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    well In SA we will need someone to hold his ground , as we have too many good stroke players , Dravid provides some sanity in case of crisis , everyone goes through a lean patch ..when Mr. Chappell retired ( first ) his average was around 44.90...at the age of 32 I guess ... for WSC ..current average of Dravid is close to 53 ? and he is 37 ..I think he has 3 more years left in him ..before he thinks about retiring ...

  • on November 7, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    oh come on Ian ! Why isn't Tim Paine in the Aussie squad now? And why was Marcus North given such an extended run? When cricketers of their class can be chopped and included according to selectors' whims and fancies, surely you can't drop Dravid and include Pujara.

  • The_Professor on November 7, 2010, 13:30 GMT

    Although I do not agree fully with Chappelli's comments about Dravid, I do feel that India need to find ways of giving more opportunities to players like Pujara, Rehane and Vijay sooner rather than later. It is a fact that most great batsmen (very few exceptions) are ones who get international exposure at an early age. If we wait for Dravid, SRT & VVS to retire I'm afraid it may become too late for the aforementioned young batsmen who have been the best finds since Dravid, Ganguly and VVS themselves. What would be wrong in having a rotation policy where the young lions can challenge the older ones and see if they can outperform them - much in the way we do with ODI's? Furthermore, imagine the confidence a young lion gains by defeating an older one and displacing him...rather than waiting for the old lion to die/ retire and stepping in! Dravid is a legend and always will be BUT let him and others be challenged and possibly bettered rather than fade away over a period of time.

  • on November 7, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    No doubt Pujara is potential new player, but Dravid is proved, how could you say drop one inform experience batsman? In the same situation if you Mr chappell drop from the team what will be your expression? I am very interested to kw…. Hehehe :)P

  • on November 7, 2010, 13:26 GMT

    Pujara has a great future ahead no doubt but cant nullify dravid contribution in recent years Look at any tour we won abroad was delusive without dravid contribution.As a bowler Its very disturbing when he runs at full speed bowls a ball and is left by batsman while bowlers have always a chance against Virender Sehwag and Likes.Dravid can bat hours and hours to save a test match when needed.I guess Dravid recent dismal performance last year shouldnt question his credibility and Integrity as batsman.People have short memory and tend to forget one's contribution.Just get rational give dravid some space and If he doesnt performance he could be left out of 11.But Just one innings of Pujara in International cricket just justify that he has better cricketing sense than so just Wait Relax n Watch Dravid will bounce back!!!

  • on November 7, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    They should pick Pujara instead of Raina. I think that is more sensible.

  • mukeshn on November 7, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    How many years Dravid has left now? He is already 38 years old so may be another 1 or 2 years. Since he is not in good form he should be dropped. By the time he will get his timing right he will be around 39-40 years old. It was OK to wait for his return in the form if he was 33-34 years old but my questions to selectors and all the Dravid's fans is why to waste a youngster for a 38 years old out of form player?

  • on November 7, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    Ian; you are right that the selectors should have tried out Pujara in this NZ tour but there is no way Pujara is playing in place of a fit Rahul Dravid in SA. One knock proves that he belongs to this stage of Test Cricket and nothing more. The best bet would have been to let the in form Sachin rest for this NZ tour and let Pujara and Raina play together in the tests against the "lamentable" NZ attack. P.S. even with the best team India are 82 for 6 heading into day 5 in the first test; so much for experimentation. Coming to Australia; I think giving Steven Smith a run is probably a good idea but the best place for him would be the one dayers where he can get some confidence and give Hauritz a run for his place. Also North is a wasted position in the batting order and Kwaja or Hodge or Paine can fill that spot with Katich rolling his arms over for wrist spin (like Michael Bevan). Johnson can be dropped; and why on earth is Stuart Clark not in this side.

  • prajjwal on November 7, 2010, 12:17 GMT

    Well dravid is not the player they should omit, but the idea of dropping him at no. 5 is good one. Definitely Pujara deserves a spot in team but omitting dravid for the same is not that logical. What i too think is laxman should be batting at no.3 and dravid at no.5 or 6 And i think that Jhonson is still capable of providing breakthroughs, don't forget that he is an explosive batsman and he garners some valueable quick runs for the team..

  • ichliebecricket on November 7, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    True Dravid has struggled the last few months but it is unfair to call for his head. I think it is good he was picked for the NZ series as it gives him a chance to get back into form. I hope Dravid has a good series in SA and then the decision is pretty much left to him if he wants to leave on a high.

  • mukeshn on November 7, 2010, 12:13 GMT

    If a 38 years old player is not in the form and not playing well he should be dropped. Though he scored a century it was not good. He changed the momentum of the match. He took 100 balls to score 17 while on the other end Sehwag was scoring run a ball. This kind of player will not retire until you forcefully retire him. Selectors have already dropped him from Ond day cricket but still this guy is not announcing his retirement from Ond day international. He always creates a pressure on the team and gives bowlers chance to settle down and do lots of experiments. Some how he saves his wicket by leaving most of the balls and score only on the loose balls but other stroke players come under wrong impression of the wicket and lose theire wicket because of the pressure cretated by Dravid. Bowlers get a chance to get confidence while Dravid is batting. It's how time now for Dhoni to use his muscle power (I mean captaincy power) and kick this guy out.

  • manisacumen on November 7, 2010, 12:07 GMT

    Preferring Rahul Dravid over the highly impressive Cheteshwar Pujara for the first Test against New Zealand was a surprisingly timid move by the Indian Selectors. However, the Indian selectors opted for a safety-first move when the situation cried out for a bit of imagination. At this stage of his career, Dravid is not the ideal player to bat at No. 3 in South Africa. If Dravid struggles and scores slowly, he'll play right into their hands. It seems pointless to have Virender Sehwag rattle the opposition with mercurial strokeplay at the top of the order and then risk allowing the bowling side back into the contest while Dravid fights for survival. If Pujara failed against New Zealand, the selectors always had the option of returning Dravid to the middle order and using the more aggressive Laxman at No. 3 in South Africa. Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable, but it proved nothing - apart from boosting his statistics.

    Continued

  • indianxpres on November 7, 2010, 12:05 GMT

    pujara camein as replacement for Laxman in Bangalore test and laxman is back so,pujara has to sit out, i wonder where is the question of Dravid here? just because he play the second innings at #3 spot? . Pujara need to play more & more whenever he get opportunity like M.Vijay to take over Dravid or Laxman.

  • Legend_G on November 7, 2010, 11:53 GMT

    I agree with Ian, Its time we move on with Dravid. Rahul is a great player, no doubt about it, but time has come he honorably exist from the game to make way for Pujaras,Vijays,Raina...

  • on November 7, 2010, 11:30 GMT

    Surprisingly timid? The surprise would have been if Dravid was dropped!

  • Tiptop32 on November 7, 2010, 11:14 GMT

    I am an Indian. I completely agree with Ian. Selectors have done a mistake by not giving Pujara a chance. Time for Dravid to go.

  • Alexk400 on November 7, 2010, 11:07 GMT

    I am hardcore Dravid fan. But i am tired of him running out Sehwag. There were many times dravid was running badly , ball watching and simply shaky in decision making. if india loses today , it is because of dravid running out sehwag.

    Also i am thinking Gambhir out of form. So murali vijay should take his place. Pujara atleast replace Raina ( he did nothing).

  • leslie_alo on November 7, 2010, 10:50 GMT

    Again I would say Ian has just repeated what he is good at. Remember, he once famously suggested Sachin should be dropped and he ended up swallowing his words later. Now he wants Dravid to be dropped for Pujara. There is no doubt Pujara should be given a chance - but is it at the expense of Dravid or Raina or even Gambhir. Let us once analyze and understand when Dravid was a total flop in a series abroad. Let us appreciate his innings in Perth last and think of supporting this legend with a few more chances before we point a finger at him.

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:49 GMT

    I kind of agree with Mr Ian Chappel. Dravid was indeed indispensable for India. But of late, whenever he comes out to bat, he breaks Sehwag's rhythm and that costs a team big time.

    If selectors want to persist with Dravid then, its good move to swap the positions of Laxman and Dravid.

  • denny.abr on November 7, 2010, 10:48 GMT

    first chappell tried his best to get tendulkar retired...that didn't exactly work out!....now he's trying his luck with dravid...Aussies never give up do they!;)...

  • rohan.zeus on November 7, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    Firstly, Ian Chappell does nothing better than to inflame the Indian emotions by acting as if he's partial to cricketing cause, by showering Pujara with praises, but finally still parades his nepotism towards the Aussies and is very amusing even considering comparing both the teams.By comparing Pujara's single innings to Dravid's numerous efforts, just shows the Chappell's cricketing depravity.

    And as to other 'Indian fans', who are adhering to his view that Dravid stymies Sehwag's rate by playing slowly have is just baffling. They totally compliment each other with their own styles, with dravid pegging down the bowlers and Sehwag sending it out. But most importantly isn't test cricket the place where occupying the crease and playing copybook technical shots the norm of the day? In this match Dravid's fighting ton showed his still ever present mental strength and this can never be undone by some ex-cricketer's narrow view, who wasn't even half as good as this gentleman.

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    Absolutely Ian..Laxman should bat at no.3 and Dravid should bat at no.5...Laxman currently is in the form of his life averaging 90 in 2010 and he will come good in SA too..dravid has a horrible record in SA..avrages just 30 there

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:33 GMT

    Pujara did deserve another shot in this series. Giving Pujara a chance by keeping Dravid out will in no way affect the latter as Dravid is already an accomplished player, but it may make or break the youngster's career as it's still early days for this guy.

  • Lovetesh on November 7, 2010, 10:11 GMT

    Put Pujara in place of Raina and Ian in place of Greg then both these teams would be alright.

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:10 GMT

    and mr chappell gambhir looks outta sorts too so why didn't u tell tht bringing gambhir instead of vijay was a timid move ?? no right cos u know he can play well and he has done it in the past both gambhr and dravid were the top batsmen for india in the yr 2009......so pls don't talk silly things sir

  • rck5054 on November 7, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    Hey Ian Chappell. Stop worrying about the NUMBER 1 team in the world. We know exactly what we are doing. You should be worrying more about the pathetic Aussie side that you guys have and how to retain the Ashes back! By the way Dravid's pathetic form is better than the current form of Ponting. May b try comparing Raina and Pujara.

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:08 GMT

    @blueandroid sir didn't u see how he upped the tempo once he got settled in ......??? 81 off 110 is not an easy factorin a slow pitch as this....pls rem

  • v4vicky on November 7, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    Well I will agree to Ian's comments here and will go against my fellow Indian fans comments on Dravid. I guess time for Dravid is up and he is definitely a liability and a cross accusation on Australian team affairs or justification on emotions logically does not prove anything that Dravid needs to be dropped based on his current form for last 3 years where he averages just above 34. Pujara is a right candidate to fill his shoes and I hope he gets a chance in next Test match. His current century on which Indians were rejoicing was negated by the way he got out in second innings now. Wish most of Indian fans and selectors use their common sense rather than internal politics and emotions. Thanks to such a trend we are on verge of loosing test with NZ. Even Gambhir needs to be dropped for the next series and man in form Vijay should get a shot at top of the order. Harbhajan also needs to be axed. Form over a period of time sud be deciding factor.

  • vipin.chaudhary2325 on November 7, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    asharaful also made a hundered on his test debut infront of Muraitharan.... We all know dat Pujara plays a fantastic innings, but in Africa, India badly need Dravid, U can't throw dravid out of the team like this, I think there is a 99% chance dat Dravid will retire after South Africa series, Pujara will get his chance, but he have to wait for some months now

  • on November 7, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    I don't see any reason why the best Number 3 batsman in the world should be dropped.

  • SudeepSharma_Nepal on November 7, 2010, 9:57 GMT

    I m not sure why many PPL are getting so personal with Ian Chappel and leaving remarks full of hatred for the OZs.Cool down friends. Everyone has a right to say.Why do we forget about the good things he has written for the Indians and world cricket as a whole.He has his opinion and let him mention that. Whether his comment is intellectual or not time will tell.But I think sometimes to speak the stark truth it requires some doing and he is a gutsy guy who doesn't care about what others say.Sometimes anybody can be mistaken but the fear of making a mistake should not forbid what ought to be mentioned.His logic is fine here.Dravid has totally looked out of sorts and he is also harming the confidence of new talents who have promised a lot.Had Ian just mentioned that Dravid should be sacked 4 not performing it could have been objectionable.But since he can see very good replacements for a guy who is totally down in confidence at the moment,he has strong basis to back up his argument.Cheers!

  • gargi_vizag on November 7, 2010, 9:57 GMT

    i would have rather Dravid open the innings with Sehwag and have Pujara at No.3. Gambhir at the moment is struggling and a brief stint at the Ranji may actually help him in the long run and at the same time gives an opportunity to Pujara to establish himself. And i do not agree with Chappell's statement that Dravid has never been an dominant batsman, i would like to point that Dravid has been an EFFECTIVE batsman for most of his career and his experience would do a world of good in SA.

  • Navillus on November 7, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    Some guys never learn.... especially egoistic know it alls like Ian Chappel. Wasn't he the one who wanted Sachin to hang up his boots in 2006? He conveniently forgets that he has been made to look like the biggest fool in the past. Now, he is after Dravid, the architect of the best wins in Indian cricket history. He just needs to write stuff in his column, and this is something which will catch the imagination of the short memoried Indian 'fans'. http://senantixtwentytwoyards.blogspot.com/2010/10/three-amigos-and-young-man.html shows the Pujara factor weighed against Dravid, Laxman and Sachin. And http://senantixtwentytwoyards.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-like-whatever-has-been-posted-on-this.htmltells you why Dravid is important and also not a cult hero. Mr Chappel averaged 42 as a batsman and was not too successful in his mid thirties - people living in glass houses and all that.

  • FairPoint on November 7, 2010, 9:50 GMT

    This is the same Ian Chappell who 3 years ago in 2007 said that Tendulkar should retire. Here's his article on cricinfo: http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/287961.html. We all know where he stands with respect to that advice. History shows that his view was obviously way off target. Come 2010 and he's trying the same stuff with Dravid. Why don't these Australians get off from their condescending high ground and acknowledge for once that they don't know everything about cricket. In fact if any team should have been faulted with not blooding youngsters at the right time it is the Australian team in the 2000s. They continued their policy of playing old hats like Hayden, Langer and Waugh in tests when they should have picked more youngsters. Even now they are still keeping a talented guy like Hughes out of the team. Mr. Chappell I am sure you heard that good old proverb - people living in glass houses...

  • Farce-Follower on November 7, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    @Emancipator007 : The most prolific may not necessarily be MVP. MVPs win matches, they do not notch up records and statistics. RD did not hit centuries, but did enough to ensure a first series win in the Windies, with his classic at Sabina Park. One needs to keep statistics at one side and then make relevant judgments.

  • on November 7, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    ian has got nly one work ........talk rubbish bout indians great ..... some its sachin ,sometym its dravid.... bt dnt worry ian ..indians know what to do better than u!!!!!

  • on November 7, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    I comment this immediately seeing Dravid dismissal in the 1st test second innings against kiwis. He is completely struggling for his survival. His low scoring rate does not mean he is the wall. He is not his self in past one year. He is just fishing around that off stump. So its high time for Dravid to bow out of the team. If done at right time he will be remembered as a legend"The Wall"

  • on November 7, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    I comment as soon as seeing Dravid's 1st test second innings dismissal against kiwis.Heart broken. He is not same wall.Its time for Pujara's to get a run in the Indian team. Its good bye time for the great INDIAN WALL.Thanks for the service to the team.

  • royalg on November 7, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    i think dravid is one of the greats of cricket but time is up and after watching wat he did today am defo backing ian chappel and sum of the comentators on this. he puts too much pressure on himself and it affects the team and if the openers dnt click everything goes wrong and india rely heavly on tendulkar and laxman in S.A.. i hope am wrong but i wud well hav preffered to give pujara and vijay the chance ahead of gambhir and dravid rite now. esp GAUTAM he is soooo badly out of form and u can see the way his feet moves and no timing is the perfect example for it, vijay deserved to start against newzealand in the 2nd test. i feel it wud be best if dravid went down the order and gave pujara another chance at NO3. not bothered wat happens in australia . think india defo need to find another backup SPINNER aswell, the man is R.ASHWIN for it and he deserves a chance, not very happy with bhajj BOWLING but luv the mans batting ability jus too exciting. bit worried with MS DHONI's batting too

  • sweetspot on November 7, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    Pujara IS the safe option, Mr. Chapell. Agree with everything else. Just this moment, Dravid has just shown his worst side, getting someone run out, and then getting out himself, to put India in a real spot of bother against the Kiwis. Rahul Dravid is old fashioned, my foot. He is the one guy who refuses to make adjustments to the new realities of cricket. He makes average bowlers look great with his refusal to go for runs. Just no intent. Pujara thankfully, belongs to the new generation that knows what it takes. I hope this is Dravid's last series. And I hope he continues to play for RCB - the other "stodgy" team with angry, serious faces that takes all the joy out of cricket.

  • on November 7, 2010, 9:04 GMT

    While I realise the selectors will never go with a such major revision how about this for an Australian XI:

    S.E. Marsh LHB (SLA) (c) J.D. Smith RHB (ROB) U.T. Khawaja LHB (RM) C.J. Ferguson RHB (RM) A.C. Blizzard LHB (LM) A.B. McDonald RHB RFM C.D. Hartley LHB (w) L.R. Butterworth LHB RM X.J. Doherty LHB SLA S.H. Walter RHB LFM M.A. Cameron RHB RF

    this would give a mix of main bowlers (with a number of minor options), and a batting side which (using their 1st class averages) will usually score in excess of 300 runs per innings. And IF the coach (& capt) insisted on each player improving their weaker attributes you would end up with a side that has 5 batting allrounders, 4 bowling allrounders, 1 genuine allrounder (McDonald) & the wicketkeeper.

  • Gupta.Ankur on November 7, 2010, 9:03 GMT

    I think chappell's obsession with the strike-rate will one day force him to put Shahid Afridi ahead of Inzamam and Javed Miandad...........if he were to select pakistan's all-time XI.

    Dude, strike-rate are best utilized in limited over games and not tests.....Dravid is a fine player and will continue to do well.

    Maybe he should worry about australia's batting rather than india's..

  • the_blue_android on November 7, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    All the Indians who want Dravid, mark my words Dravid will be a liability. We are going to lose in SA because Dravid is going to lose the momentum for the side by batting overs and overs and not score any runs, and then finally getting out . Are you guys blind to not see how he makes batting look so painful and tedious ?

  • Rahulbose on November 7, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    Main issue is you are applying Australian selection mindset to Indian team. Like Greg Chappell found out, that does not work. Indian selection has always been more defensive and senior players are not easily removed.

    On Aus, I expect them to be at par with Eng playing at home. Looking forward to the Ashes.

  • gopi_29 on November 7, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    Oh mr.Ian Chappell before commenting on dravid first u look at ur australian team and advice ur brother to remove ponting from captaincy and his no.3 position.Even dravid had performed better than ponting but ur australian team still have faith in ponting and his captaincy.So first llok at ur australian team and look at others.So dont publish a stupid article like this again.....

  • iamHari51 on November 7, 2010, 8:37 GMT

    THNAKS GREG ..your article just gave us oppurtunity..to talk about dravid's greatnes..

  • chaithan on November 7, 2010, 8:36 GMT

    I can understand why several Indian fans don't like Dravid. He is an old fashioned batsman who does not slog, has infinite patience and a low strike rate. When others are scoring so fast, people think Dravid is bad because he scores so slowly. That's all. His stats are similar to Tendulkar's 3 or 4 years ago, something conveniently forgotten by the Sachin fanatics, who only hate Dravid because he was quite often better than Sachin and definitely better for a long time overseas. But I also think Pujara should be rewarded and he should play in SA, not as replacement for Dravid but for Raina. What has Raina done since he joined the Test team? Scored a debut century on a SSC feather-bed then slammed a few 6s to finish the 3rd test. Since then nothing. He struggled on bouncy pitches in the Champions League so I really don't see how he can manage at Test level. And like Ian says Pujara plays cross-bat shots very well.

  • amit1807kuwait on November 7, 2010, 8:32 GMT

    @Rahul_78 it does not pay to be a toilet paper all the time, because even that is predictable mate. On a tough tour like SA, if at all you have to blood Pujara, you do that at the cost of Raina, not Dravid. Raina is no fan of the short ball, and the SA bowlers will never pitch a ball in his half. Yet, we should test Raina out, and Pujara should wait for his turn. If Raina is not up to it, then Pujara comes in his place. To say that Dravid should be axed just before an important series like the SA one, well, you must be joking mate. Just like Chappell.

  • ani92 on November 7, 2010, 8:29 GMT

    He had said the same thing about Sachin Tendulkar 18 months back, look how he's proved chappel wrong. This guy tries to stay in the news by bashing Indian stalwarts.

  • Rahulbose on November 7, 2010, 8:21 GMT

    Main issue is you are applying Australian selection mindset to Indian team. Like Greg Chappell found out, that does not work. Indian selection has always been more defensive and senior players are not easily removed.

    On Aus, I expect them to be at par with Eng playing at home. Looking forward to the Ashes.

  • ravimcc on November 7, 2010, 8:20 GMT

    This is a slow pitch and hence dravids century is commendable. Just because sewag scored quickly does not mean the other end batsman must also score quickly. Just imagine what woule have happened if sewag got out early. India would hasve crumbled but for the WALL.I agree that he is not at his best but that does not mean he has to be replaced by a talented lad based on a single performance.

  • on November 7, 2010, 8:03 GMT

    Pujara is certainly a man for the future.As a follower of the domestic games, I do know the credentials of the young lad. And it was pleased to see how he grabbed his chance in his debut match by playing a vital knock of 70 odd. But is one innings enough to seal a place ahead of one of the most reliable batsman in Test cricket in this generation? Yeah, Dravid is past his best period but he is still the man India would be hoping to come good on the bouncy tracks of SA where India's record doesn't look too good and is now regarded a measure by which India's stature of being number 1 team in the world can be judged. Besides, selection of Dravid over Pujara wasn't really a surprise to anyone. Anyway having said all that, as often it has been with the case with Indians, retirements aren't gone when one is at the peak gracefully. I hope Dravid knows when to and takes the right call and bows out with all the respect he deserves.

  • We_Win_All on November 7, 2010, 7:53 GMT

    Mr.Chappell Please do remember Dravid played a stellar 74 off 58 balls against Mumbai Indians who possess the best pace attack in the world in South Africa..... So shut your blah blah about Dravid's Career.

  • cricfan_phoenix on November 7, 2010, 7:49 GMT

    "Consequently, preferring Rahul Dravid over the highly impressive Cheteshwar Pujara for the first Test against New Zealand was a surprisingly timid move by the Indian panel." -- No Doubt, this comes from the guy who asked Sachin to retire a couple of years back..... stop spitting at the sky.... lol !!

  • on November 7, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    "Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable, but it proved nothing - apart from boosting his statistics. His selection was an opportunity wasted. "

    You hit nail right on the head there Ian. Selectors are too "scared" or shall I say cant face criticism from Dravid's supporters. Pujara in team anyday over Dravid or Laxman. Sorry guys but he is good.

  • on November 7, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    OK. Two people who got bashed are Harsha and now Ian. Read a nice article on Dravid by a guy who calls himself Senatix, I think. Interesting stat is that in Ganguly's time as Captain, Rahul scored 2500 runs at an average of 100+ in tests won by India. His worst average is around 40 in a calendar year.

    Don't kick a guy when he is down. Or if you wish to drop Dravid, drop Tendulkar, Laxman, Dhoni, Raina and Gambhir. Whom you bring in their place really does not matter. Why you may ask? Really all of them have performed horribly in the current match. slow scoring or no scoring. Better yet take the team without Tendulkar, Dravid and Lax to SA. I can picture how these guys will perform against Steyn and Morkel.

    Ian, this article would have some place maybe three years hence but at that time Jammy would have bid farewell and will replace you in the Commentary Box around the World!

  • on November 7, 2010, 7:23 GMT

    Mr.Chapell, what at ur no3. Mr Pointing...check out his stats and then make any comments...ur article is seriously laughable

  • on November 7, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    I am not sure , but I think Pujara is still in the team. The playing XI is decided by the captain and coach not the selectors.

    It would have been foolish to drop Dravid before SA tour. He has been such an incredible player and got back to form with a century in the last innings.

    I am not able to figure out why Chappell is making such comments. I hope it benefits Dravid as it did for Tendulkar.

  • sunnybeta on November 7, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    My dislike of Chappell brothers keeps on increasing. Stop meddling in Indian Cricket!

  • SubuISA on November 7, 2010, 7:11 GMT

    this article is a very strange considering its from Ian Chappell. How can an experienced person like him ever comment like this. Pujara is just one test old and u r talking about Rahul Dravid being dropped from the Indian. I think u need some thing to improve your memory of the exploits of Dravid. He is the best bet for the Indian team during the SA tour. Pujara's time will come. I think Mr. Chappell needs a break from being a cricket analyst. Actually its time for Mr. Chappell to retire commentary and writing articles and do something meaningful with the huge of time that he has during a day.

  • Shoeb_Texas on November 7, 2010, 7:11 GMT

    Ponting is aged and Also same is true for Hussey and North. Please drop them in ashes.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on November 7, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    chaps dont u worry bout india and jammy he is still one of the fittest in indian team take sachin laxman sehwag best slip catcher still most selfless guy kept wickets for india and has opened for india in tests not everyone above mentioned guys have done that so he surely needs to dictate his place after scoring a ton INSTEAD WORRY ABOUT THAT NOW THE TIME HAS COME THAT U ARE STARTING LOSING MATCHES TO USELESS SRILANKAS IN UR OWN BACKYARD MATE

  • nirav123 on November 7, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    You know why? because Dravid is the wall of the indian cricket. Dravid will never be dropped until he wants. Pujara has shown nothing yet. One performance can't be compared with Dravid. Same with Murali Vijay, Murali Vijay is nothing compared to Gambhir. Pujara is far better than MS Dhoni and may be better than Suresh Raina but not better than Dravid, Tendulkar, Sehwag and Laxman. Hope you get your answer, australin Chappell!!!!!

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    Blah blah blah. Same old tripe from Chappell. Reminds me a lot of Simon Cowell. Get over yourself dude, I'm sure Dravid knows more about when to step aside for Pujara than you do. You just keep focusing on imagining Australia to be the best team in the world and the Ashes to be the most important series in history since Bodyline, and all will be good with the world. Alright, happy?

  • henchart on November 7, 2010, 6:51 GMT

    Spot on ! Dravid chokes one end and perishes leaving the Run rate dwindling.He is playing more as an entity and wont bow out gracefully.Agreed ,he has been a loyal soldier but time and tide wait for none.Either Dravid should reinvents himself as a fluent run machine a la Tendulkar,which is unlikely, or make room for the likes of Pujara.Another factor to be noted is if Dravid potters around for another two or three years in Tests then Pujara would have to sit out,which can be damaging to the latter's career .Remember when Srinath was at his furious best in early 1990s,he was made to sit on the sidelines for more than two years simply to allow Kapil reach 432 Wickets.

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Mr.Chappell, the reason to choose Rahul ahead of Pujara is indeed a wise one... With the series against SA ahead, there needs to be solidity and assurance in the camp from a No.3, and no one gives more than what Dravid does. This series would work as a confidence booster for him....Assuming Pujara for the slot based only one performance, that too on a day 5 sub-conitnental pitch...against an opposition which lacks proper option for spin would be stupid. With Gambhir not at his usual best, i would bet only for Rahul at 3. He will and certainly bail out India, in case of any troubles for sure..much better than a kid whose mettle is yet to be tested in foriegn circumstances.. Pujara is one worthy player whom we can depend upon, and he scored good runs too, thats why he was even considered when VVS is down for the second test. He will get his opportunities and there is no need to rush him into the side. He will certainly carry the expectations of a billion in future..not now :)

  • vishalb on November 7, 2010, 6:47 GMT

    Although Dravid's batting powers have waned, Indian selectors know that in fast tracks he is still the man for India. A man like Dravid's caliber will know when to retire. Dravis is a special case like Tendulkar and we should not forget that I think Chappel should never be allowed to comment anything on cricket. Unlike his brainy brother, whose performance as a coach is appalling and has taken up selection since, this guy keeps crying every week poking at some Indian batsman and having fun! Whatever happened to that mirror on the wall thing with Tendulkar. We don't rush in retirements, like the Aussies and leave the team for dogs(like now). Look how Sachin is contributing today. If he were an Aussie he would have been forced to retire like Chappel wrote in that mirror article. A special case should be given extra time to recover and Dravid is one. "Mirror mirror should chappel retire from writing?" Mirror: Hell Yes, How many times should I say?"

  • ChinmayD on November 7, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    You might want to pass your advice along to your brother, the national selector Mr Chappell? :p

    And, bringing Dravid back to no 3. was a "surprisingly" timid move by BCCI? You must be the only one for whom it was a surprise then...

  • addiemanav on November 7, 2010, 6:38 GMT

    although the articl is bit harsh on dravid,i feel tht its smwht a tru reflection..no doubt dravid has been a terrific batsmn but if u actually look in the past 4 years,aftr the WI tour where he played some gud knocks including century & couple of match winnin 50s in the last test,his avg outside india has been 35,boosted only by 2 100s he scored against bang..his next best was 93 at perth & thats about it!!point is that his confidence has been downhill since 2006..getting 100s in india isnt a big deal for dravid..its his overseas stats tht hav becme cause of worry..2007 OZ tour,he scord 230 in 4tests where sachin scored 490 odd..but amazing stat is both plyd same no.of balls..not trying to say he shud go after ball all time,but pblm was he got into a shell & eventually got out.he was +ve in 2003 in OZ & thus scored 600 at 50. he's at his best when he is +ve without being too self critical.howevr he might prove us all wrong by scoring some 100s in SA!!

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:35 GMT

    I totally agree with Ian on Pujara's prospect. His performance was striking to all in the debut and against the mighty OZs but the Indian think tank didn't give him a chance in this test.I feel pity for Dravid though.I think it's high time now to bid farewell and allow the young guns who are full of confidence to have a go and make an impact.I cant see Dravid making any impact anymore and I agree that it's no use playing Dravid at no 3 if India has got a good start from Shewag because it's all the same when Dravid starts blocking.It looks like he is safeguarding his position in the team more than anything.He is down in his confidence.Also I am not happy about the selection of Gambhir ahead of Vijay.Vijay is a more compact player than gambhir.I think still Pujara can be adjusted in playing 11 ahead of Raina if Dravid is also to be accomodated.Raina is going well at the moment and he deserves his position but Pujara promises more for the long run.Vuvi n Raina r same in tests.they r4 ODI.

  • binueapen on November 7, 2010, 6:35 GMT

    Has Chappell gone nuts or does nuts run in the family? Is that all it takes to replace Rahul Dravid? one mercurial innings from Pujara? With all due respect, Pujara is a well deserved replacement, when ....Dravid decides to call it a day. The man has played out of his skin one, two many a game and now he is not good enough. Whenever any cricketer aged over 30 has a bad patch it is somehow linked to a decline with age. No one seems to be talking that about Tendulkar. Maybe if Ponting claims a century or two in the Ashes, they would quit saying about his current form. Let the man be...Dravid of all people will be a better judge himself of when he should call it quits.

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Pathetic article by Ian chapell :x

    Even if Dravid scores a century u would be satisfied .... seen a lot of article ( by Ian chapell ) which degraded legendary batsman like sachin , kallis and many more

    So its nothing new from IAN CHAPELL .... :D

    Keep writing this type of article Chapell .... We want lots of entertainment to laugh at ur articles :D

  • vaidy on November 7, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    I do have to concede that you have this uncanny ability to pick a winning horse - you picked Viru for the Oz tour when everyone else had given up and boy! what a turnaround it was - everyone knows it.

    (Editor this should be added to my previous comment)

  • vaidy on November 7, 2010, 6:28 GMT

    Ian, you are doing exactly what you accuse the Indian selectors of doing - dig your head deep into the sand! If Pujara can be picked instead of Dravid, surely, Usman, Fergusson, WHITE (sorry, I am shouting his name) or Smith can replace Hussey and others.

    Why are you singling out poor North as the one most likely to sit out?

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:20 GMT

    I still remember the cries of the so called geniuses and analyzers for Kumble to retire and make way for Dhoni and Amit Mishra. where is Amit Mishra now? was Dhoni ready for test captaincy? Was it too much for him too early? most of the load of taking 20 wickets in tests is now on Zaheer's shoulders.With Kumble around it was so different. these guys are like bass guitar. you don realize the importance until they stop playing. Sewang, Sachin, Dravid, Luxi - together theres a minimum guarantee these stalwarts offer. Someone will have a form dip here or there, they are humans not machines. so until they call it a day, the game is on.

  • Governor on November 7, 2010, 6:18 GMT

    You made an excellent comment that getting the right selectors is more important than rewarding a coach with a big contract. Gregory Stephen Chappell is an excellent choice as the Full Time Selector and Talent Identification Manager and I hope he will exert his influence on a selection panel that has lacked forward planning and bold selection making of young youthful batsmen since October 2008.

    I would drop North, Katich and Hussey for Smith, Khawaja and Cameron White. On the fast bowling front, I would be prepared to play Clint Mackay ahead of Peter Siddle or Mitchell Johnson. We need a human metronome who can bowl like Stuart Clark and Glen McGrath by drying up the runs at one end. MacKay is the perfect man for hte role.

    Here is my side:

    Usman Khawaja, Shane Watson, Ricky (CAPTAIN), Michael Clarke, Cameron White, Brad Haddin, Stephen Smith, Mitchell Johnson, Ben Hilfenhauss, Clint MacKay and Xavier Doherty.

    THE GOVERNOR

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    First tell aus selectors to drop pointing, hussey, north and pup from Ashes, and come to comment on indian selection. Then you will tell that "pointing is a class player and pup is future leader, they will bounce back to form any time. That goes for Dravid also. So bye bye chappell.

  • Prats6 on November 7, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Agree with Ian completely. In fact even before the series started this is what I thought, atleast rest either VVS or Rahul and make Pujara play. I have been a huge Rahul Dravid fan but its high time we give the youngsters like Pujara, Vijay a chance in Tests now.

    Similarly, a big fan of the Aussies, mostly their playing style, I find it a bit tough to acknowledge their loss of form and character to a certain extent. Aussies need to take tough decisions. Dropping the on and off North for a new bowler, would be a good idea. But I do not agree with the choice of Smith. You need to find someone who is mercurial and give you wickets. Mitchell is still a good bowler and I do not think I would drop him. The Australian team is known for its attacking instinct rather than defending and its high time they do that against England.

  • jimbond on November 7, 2010, 6:15 GMT

    Good to see Ian come up again with his bold views. I remember him rooting for Sehwag even when the Indian selectors didnt hold the same view.

    Dhoni's implied logic of promoting Pujara was primarily to allow the experienced Dravid to come in later when the ball would be reverse swinging. And while Pujara is a good find, he is not Dravid, at least not yet. On bouncing tracks, he may though be preferred over the likes of Raina or Yuvraj down the order. With Pollock gone, the South Africans may not exactly tie batsmen down as effectively, though Morkel does try the same.

    And the Aussies always have played a bit defensive in recent years- something which also has allowed them to succeed. Never more than four bowlers, even if one of the remaining eight was someone like Gilchrist. Hence the established order will continue. Mitchell in, and Smith out. If smith had bowled a bit better, he could have nudged ahead of Hauriz but that may not be, yet.

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:14 GMT

    i would like to answer the pujara dilemma by asking another ques. Why was Brad Hodge dropped after scoring a double century against south africa when Ricky Pontng was fit again? Shouldn't he have been awarded too? Truth is, if it ain't broke, we don't fix it. India have been winning with Dravid being in their side for a while now (and although he hasn't contibuted in SL or against Aus, he has had an excellent 2 years or so) and until they lose in SA, no serious question marks over Dravid's spot is likely.

  • kool_Indian on November 7, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    Ian - give us a break from your rants. Offlate your analysis has been so poor. BTW - do you rem'ber what you wrote about our GOD? I have never seen an article from you apologizing or anything - why is media n ppl like you are so hell bent in killing the career of our Wonderful and Great cricketers. Do us a favor - first try to make sure that your aussie team is not messed up with your bro Greg being appointed in an imp position. Spare the Indian cricketers and Indian fans like us. I thank God that Indian cricket team has good team management and good selectors.

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    MR Chappel we know whom to pick and whom to drop and probably your brother had half destroyed Indian cricket , thankfully he is out and so we do not need your advices as we are number 1 and Mr Kirsten is doing a wonderful job out here , rather then giving ill advices to India why the hell you guys are persisting with Ponting then , keep your advices for some other nation as we are no 1 since a year and here in India we have a plan to respect senior long performing cricketers unlike that of no5-6 ranked teams

  • on November 7, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    sad comments by ian chappell.........nothing else to say

  • maddakuduv on November 7, 2010, 6:00 GMT

    You should stop worrying about Indian Team you said the same thing about Sachin Tendulkar after the 2007 world cup he shut your mouth and I thought you would learn a lesson by that then again you came back and said that JP Duminy is the next best thing to happen for cricket he is struggling to be in the South African side. Now you are commenting in Dravid who tormented your fellow country men for 15 years now. We know you and your brother and what you guys did to cricket shame on you just try do soul searching i hope you one day realise your Mistakes.

  • cricfave on November 7, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    I agree with Chappell's comment on Dravid's slow batting. When I watched the Sehwag-Dravid partnership on Day 1, I felt that Dravid was negating all the positives that Sehwag was bringing to the table: speed, fabulous strokes and the excitement that comes with watching good cricket. Pujara should be transitioned in at the earliest.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    Lamentable New Zealanders? 400 for 5, with a 20 year old on 125 in his first test! Lamentable?? No, bloody encouraging! Ian Chappell, typical Australian. A 7 match losing streak is lamentable. Bloody aussies.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:49 GMT

    Dear Ian

    Like most great players, Rahul Dravid too deserves the extra space and time to bat himself back to form. and that rule applies to ricky ponting as well. as for pujara, he must take heart from the fact that he wasn't dropped. it was only that he won a place because of the unavailabilty of some players. he mustnt let his guard drop, because he is definitely next in line when the time comes.

    and i feel dravid should not be treated any differently from tendulkar who went through a similar phase in the middle of the decade. for all you know, dravid's contribution to indian test cricket might be greater than tendulkar's.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:49 GMT

    Sorry - i meant Cameron White - have no idea who Chris White is.

  • Sam_Singh on November 7, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    A good point made there about Pujara's inclusion in place of Dravid, given the great start that Sehwag provides first up. But it seems that Pujara will have to bide his time becoming a fixture in the Indian test middle order till the fab 3 are around and Raina plays consistently well. Till then, he'll have to sit out just like Yuvraj did till Ganguly was around and saw his best form till date not being utilised by the selectors.

  • Emancipator007 on November 7, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    I try and not take issue with fellow commenters having difference of opinions, but when one @ Farce-Follower (on Harsha's column) calls himself a discerning and dedicated cricket follower and then DISSES Test great Sunil Gavaskar and world's best EVER all-round batsman SRT to push his case for RD's' unique' MVP status , then it becomes ludicrous and laughable. I just want to point out that SRT is possibly the only technically sound classical Test batsman who could be authoritative and dominating virtually at will and Gavaskar could pull out his attacking strokes when in the mood (his attacking virtuosos 121 and 90 against the fearsome WI pace attack in Delhi and Ahmedabad in the 1983 series are unmatched by any batsman of that era - he collared them). Whereas RD - more a technician and supremely efficient Test great with almost matchless powers of concentration and adaptability - in his entire 14 year Test career has NEVER been able to collar any Test attack.

  • PRABHJIT on November 7, 2010, 5:45 GMT

    its amazing how fading stars like u criticize other great players just for being in sight of the public,U want to replace dravid with Pujara right now? Pujara is only 22 he has years of cricket ahead of him,whereas rahul daravid who has served this nation for so long and is now at the twilight of his career and probably has one or 2 more years left and you want to remove him now. Mr.chappell while u were captain of oz team Mr.rahul dravid has been the unsung hero of Indian team and averages much much more than You in Both Test and First Class.you averaged 42 and he after a lame period of 2 years still averages 53. So just shut up and not make unecessary comments just for the sake of it.

  • Rahul_78 on November 7, 2010, 5:44 GMT

    I know there will be predictable comments from some of us Indians about how ian had written similar article about tendulkar and how he ended up with an egg on his face. But I have great respect for ians comments and thoughts. The point he is making here is spot on. When sehwag decimates the balling at the top we need an aggressive no 3 to carry on the tempo of the innings specially when gambhir is struggling for form. We cant afford 2 batsmen in top 3 who are struggling with form in dravid and gambhir. It was painful watching batsmen of caliber of dravid scraping a innings against an attack not high on substance. Pujara is definitely the one for future and needs to be made welcome and comfortable by playing him in XI and not merely giving him opportunity when someone is injured. I cant see dravid scoring hundred against steyn and morkel in this form and he is not getting any younger with his reflexes. I love dravid but all good things must come an end.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:44 GMT

    yeah dravid century was predictable but that australia loss was also predictable, pujara is a boy , and only after one match you decide to drop dravid for him, that's a shame for a man of your knowlege sir

  • amunibabu on November 7, 2010, 5:44 GMT

    Dravid cant score runs?...... are you kidding me??

  • teluguraja on November 7, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    i am a great fan of you chappell, and the innings played by pujara was indeed the best i have seen in a debut match. the determination and calmness in his face was the most striking aspect of that innings. this is infact typical of dravid, whose technique is similar, if not better than pujara. he must be criticised for his lack of postive approach which often gives oppositon an oppurtunity to get back in to the game and helps to focus on the other batsman at other end. but at the same time dravid is one of the succesful players to score in south africa where his 140 in his first series in south africa was one of my favourite innings, because the ball seamed around a lot. though the selectors were timid in picking dravid, as this is the best oppurtunity for youngsters against a weaker opposition, the move was not surprising. lets hope dravid makes up his mind sooner than later ( may be after south african series) and gives pujara more oppurtunity.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    and his strong performances against SL B and SL in the warm up game. A team who certainly know how to play good spin. He is also a strong bat and his fc average is really good. Doherty should replace Hauritz in the ODI setup for sure, but his fc record is shocking although i dont know what it is over the last 2 yrs for example. He did strike me as more of a limited overs spinner the little i saw of him the other day against SL. I know statistics like averages arent everything but when theyre as significantly different as Haurtz and O Keefes is, there simply must be a difference in quality. Outised of that i cant say iver really seen enough of any of these new players to be 100% certain of everything, but i believe my thinking is sound nonetheless. Good luck to Aus in the Ashes!!!

  • Emancipator007 on November 7, 2010, 5:42 GMT

    which would otherwise have accounted for Kapil playing a record consecutive 131 Tests since debut. If would-be Test great Pujara goes on to play 100 consecutive Test matches with a break after being dropped despite his influential 1st Test display, he will always remember that RD blocked his way. Nasser Hussain could have - and WANTED to - stretched his career for 2 more years, but the moment he saw Strauss' superb debut Test performance in 2004, he eased himself out IMMEDIATELY -after scoring a century, mind you. Captain Dhoni (note did not say average Test batsman or efficient W'kpr as he is fulfilling 3 roles) pulled the plug on India's second greatest ODI player Ganguly's ODI career when he felt (not the selectors then) that Ganguly's runs were of no value despite his great form after his comeback. Dhoni acquiesced with the ousters of Kumble and Gang in Tests too. I daresay he might do the same with RD after the tour of SA.

  • anoopshameed on November 7, 2010, 5:41 GMT

    I had almost given up hope on Dravid. But after reading this article I feel he is going to be okay-no need of any clue there, right? Some people just like to make a fool of themselves! Ricky Ponting, Mike Hussey, X, Y and Z all around the world and in their late 30's are hoping for a 'second wind' like Sachin-so why can't Dravid? Ricky Ponting, Mike Hussey, X, Y and Z are skipping ODIs to take part in domestic games as a preperation for Ashes-so why can't Dravid face NZ as preperation for SA? On the other hand Pujara should be in the XI against SA ahead of Raina.

  • amit1807kuwait on November 7, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    Didnt Mr. Chappell suggest sometime in 2006-07 that Sachin Tendulkar should retire? Please somone ask him to shut the __ up at least as far as Indian selection matters are concerned.

  • rajakumar.venugopalan on November 7, 2010, 5:38 GMT

    I can't understand why everyone are focussing on Rahul Dravid - and not thinking about the great weak spot of Indian team handled by Suresh Raina / Yuvaraj Singh. I believe Pujara needs a spot in Indian team, but not in Rahul Dravid's place. Instead Suresh Raina and Yuvaraj Singh needs to be removed from Indian Test team and Pujara needs to be included. Raina and Yuvaraj cannot bat even a bit outside India - they are good to score runs only in Indian pitches

  • Emancipator007 on November 7, 2010, 5:37 GMT

    OMG! Exactly what I said about Dravid just eking out and accumulating runs, (not necessarily selfishly) to boost his awesome Test records on S. Rajesh's stats analysis column charting RD's clear decline. Ian C seems to have written a column echoing what I have been writing for the past 3 years about RD-I also mentioned about stalled momentum after Sehwag's consistent blitzing displays, about RD's desperate survival battles at the crease, about the rigid batting positions of Test holy cows RD and Tendulkar(and even though SRT is not my fav Test batsman I will say he is incomparable ) instead of pushing Laxman to no. 3 even if it is not Pujara. Instead of what Ian advocated, RD could have been retained but INDISPUTABLE Test-class batsman Pujara should have been picked by ruthlessly dropping Raina. Many great Test players are justifiably proud of their records. Kapil has still not forgiven Gavaskar for dropping him for the Calcutta Test during the 1984-85 series against England CONTD.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    ... and perfect it before making the change to test cricket. Hes not ready to spin Aus to victory - Warne wasnt either at 21. So for now id stick with North as he does offer some defensive qualities as a spinner - another thing Aus sorely lack right now. The ability to control the opposition innings. Which is another reason id like to stick George in their to. Neither Siddle nor Johnson can tie a side down and Aus allready have 2 top quality strike bolwers in Bollinger and Hilfenhaus. Australias problem here are the backup bowlers who cant control the run rate. Even Watson is brought on to nick a wicket out, not bring down the runrate. Too many strike bowlers and not enough workhorses. I certainly wouldnt drop Bollinger to retain Johnson as hes the better bowler and also very fiery. I thought George did very well in India and can certainly provide the control necessary for Aus. Lastly, id like to mention O Keefe who i think deserves selection based on his fc form and perfomances ...

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    Contd:- His words have lost credibility, he criticizes and shuns completely great players like sachin, and then praises in his next article. I cant understand why he thinks that Dravid is not the right choice at No.3 or even in the team. Its a shame since he is supposed to be regarded as one of the wisest 'critics' known around.

  • TEST_CRICKET_ONLY on November 7, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    Johnson has not deserved his place in the team for several years. Haddin is nowhere the best keeper in this country. North & Hussey have been good, but it's past tense. Clarke would not still be in the side if he were not the "annointed one". Hauritz is a joke at international level. And so it goes on. The old boys club that is the Australian cricket team is turning me off the game quite frankly, and the attendance figures suggest I may not be the only one. I only hope that Greg Chappell will fix some of this, and he could start by booting Hilditch, Hughes & co.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:32 GMT

    I don't usually post on Cricinfo, but after reading this article, I felt obliged to. Let me get this straight Ian: you're suggesting we drop a titan of Indian test cricket when he is going through a tough patch for a freshman based on the promise of one innings? Do you not think that a player of Dravid's caliber and experience will be invaluable to the Indian cause on a tough tour of South Africa? Sure he's not in the best of form at the moment, but we need to give Dravid every possible opportunity to regain his touch so he can work his magic for team India again.

    It's quite convenient to suggest that the selectors should have the balls and drop him, but this is missing the premise of the point. He has earned the right to some breathing space in an effort to bounce back. Pujara is one for the future, sure, but he is quite raw in his current incarnation.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:31 GMT

    I completely disagree with Ian. A good knock by a debutant doesn't ensure him always a spot when he is replacing someone due to an injury. Just to write an article, he tries to find some deficiency in the top notch batting line up but forgets Dravid has been one of our most valuable players ever, esp Overseas. Here's my take, most believe Dravid struggled last series for runs, so why not let him play at the same spot in this series to get his confidence up for the SA series. And moreover, who on earth even thinks to drop Dravid other than the great Ian Chappell. Dravid has been playing since 1996 and never had a bad phase till last 2 years. In his bad form too, he can churn out a century. And talking about stagnation, I agree he has started getting bogged down too much, which wasn't the case in his first 10 career years. And it looks more bad when you see Sehwag batting. But on the whole, his strike rate is similar to most of the players played/playing test cricket.

  • spinkingKK on November 7, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    Very much right about the Indian selection. Dravid should have given way to Pujara and Dravid's century in the first test was predicatbale and doesn't prove anything and doesn't solve any problems. However, I don't think Ian is right about he Australian selectors dilemma. I don't think Marcus North should be dropped. He is showing signs that he can score centuries when he really wanted to. That is a sign of a very good batsman. I am for retaining Marcus North. He can also bowl. Trusting Mitchell Johnson for the main duty was a folly in the first place. While I am writing, I am seeing Starc bowling great in an ODI. May be, he should find a place in the test.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:28 GMT

    Whether ponting needs to be replaced now is debateable, but it certainly would be nice to see him end off his career on a high without the captaincy burden as kallis and Tendulkar are doing. However - that another issue and id like to offer the follwoing team as a potential Ashes wining team. 1. Watson 2. Katich 3. Khawaja 4. Ponting 5. Clarke 6. Smith / North 7.Haddin 8. O Keefe 9. Hilfenhaus 10. Bollinger 11. George I think the time is right for Khawaja to step in. He young and hungry to make a name for himself - an attitude the Aus team desperately need as i think the current one is more to represent ones country as long as possible. Noble, but not satisfactory if youre trying to build a new team. The same can be said for Smith although i dont believe he is technically ready for it and this early exposure to top flight cricket could force him into bad habbits and ruin a career - making him another Chris White. Id leave him out for a while and give him the time to choose his craft ..

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:27 GMT

    I don't agree with your opinion that Dravid is not the ideal player to bat at 3 in SA. Seriously you can do better than this. On the other hand certainly Pujara is the player for future and will play at 3 regularly in year's time. But that doesn't mean Dravid is no more an asset for team India. India is touring SA in their early season where wickets will be fresh, so Dravid's exp will come handy. If you see Dravid against NZ in ongoing test, though he struggled in earlier half of his inng, he certainly timed the ball very well and looked remarkably close to the Dravid we know. So in short leave team India in hands of their think tank and it'll be better if you can guide the likes of Clarkes, Husseys and Pontings for the Ashes so that they can compete against the Poms.

  • paphoney_rashmi on November 7, 2010, 5:25 GMT

    we don need any austrlian 2 give comments on indian players. ur bro had make our hero ganguly out of his own created team now u saying abt dravid. know one thing dravid is the bst no. 3 batsman india hav. pujara played well bt he hav 2 wait becoz the legend is there.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    You said the same thing about Tendulkar 7 years back. Now Dravid will play for 7 more years.

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:24 GMT

    Rahul and Pujara? Excuse me? You Chappell's really dont know Indian Cricket do you?

  • on November 7, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    Mr Chappell and Australia - i believe the player selection is what is causing Aus problems. Admittedly the lack of a top class spinner and many injuries to fast bowlers have made things difficult, but i believe that you are entering a faze where players are coming through in Sheffield shield adn that you can take advantage of that. Be brave and pick them. Hussey, North and Hauritz arent taking Aus anywhere and to be honest the major factor in the current teams performance is timidity. Theyve been intimidated by the English public in the last Ashes and they no longer display aggression on field - except for Shane Watson that is. Aus need to return to that. No one has stopped Saffa's, Englishmen and Indians from having a go. Why should Aus be the nice guys? Ignore the media pressure and go back to what makes Aus comfortable on the field. For that reason i believe that Nielsen is not the coach for Aus and that clarke most certainly is not the captain for Aus. t.b.c

  • BHASKERJ on November 7, 2010, 5:08 GMT

    Hi Ian , I hope your brother Greg takes some of your advice and drops North

  • shaanzz on November 7, 2010, 5:07 GMT

    Had sme respect to chappel till now"" wat he said is the absolute blunder" the most stylish blunder is 'Dravid's hundred against the lamentable New Zealanders was predictable, but it proved nothing - apart from boosting his statistics. His selection was an opportunity wasted. "

    so we see wat happened after dravid gt out" he cant see the way raina played" cant see gambhir playing" He is just lik an anti Dravid" phew""

  • Percy_Fender on November 7, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    It surprises me that Ian Chappell can suggest such a move. Being an Australian I am sure he will be aware of the Australian practice of the incumbent taking his place back when he returns to the team after being out due to injury.So even if Pujara played a brilliant counter-attacking innings in the chase in Bangalore, he had to make way for Rahul Dravid when the latter returned. I wonder if he would suggest a similar move had it been Ponting who had been kept out for some reason as when he lost his grandmother recently.Ian has in the past been awfully premature in making his predictions about players as he was when he wrote dismissively about Tendulkar some time ago. Dravid is a living legend.A man of guts and charecter apart from being an all time great batsman,I am sure his best is around the corner when South Africa and England beckon. If India has to do well against both these countries, apart from the others Dravid will have to come to the party.Swansongs can wait meanwhile.

  • thewayitwass on November 7, 2010, 5:00 GMT

    Australias biggest failing in recent times has been their batting! yes the bowling hasnt been able to close games, but in india the 2nd innings batting collapses had them defending sub-par totals, no wonder the lost! so the idea of replacing a batsmen with an unproven allrounder is ludicrous.. you do not need 2 spinners at the gabba, perth or even melbourne, so the better option is to pick Kwaja ahead of north and if Hussey fails, then bring in smith otherwise get your variation overs out of katich and watson

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:53 GMT

    Ian ? Why dont you advise Aussies to drop Ricky ?

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:50 GMT

    Ian all most everyone knows you hate Dravid.. and everyone knows that your strike rate logic is "overrated" . If Kiwis bowling is so weak why didnt Rainas dhonis , sachins and laxmans didnt score ? any thought ?. We do understand Australians frustration with Dravid but tell you what you are not getting any reprieve till he retires.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:44 GMT

    Mr Chappell, let's accept that the touring Australians had a pedestrian attack and Pujara was good enough to show them their place. What he would have faced in SA (Steyn, Morkels) would've been a completely different deal and a bad series would have set him back as a batsman. Dravid still is the man India needs at No 3, to provide the contrast to strokeplayers like Sehwag, Gambhir, Laxman & Sachin. His role is pivotal in the team, and to replace him with the young Pujara would've been unfair for the young lad. So please keep your counsel to yourself, and watch as Strauss & Co whoop your overrated team and the grumpy skipper into oblivion.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:41 GMT

    ..... this isn't a snide remark pointed at your brother is it?

    But I agree with the pujara call, thats unfortunate for him.

  • Nadeem1976 on November 7, 2010, 4:39 GMT

    I dont know about Australia selection but India did a great job by playing their best eleven. Only one match winning innings from a youngster cannot take away Dravid spot , he has played more than 50 match winning knocks in his life. I think its a perfect idea to stick with all experienced players and play test level with commitment to stay on top of the world.

    Dont do what Australia did, do not retire or fire experienced player without any reason. Dravid just scored 100 in this match and he is wall of Indian cricket. Let these experienced guys enjoy the glory of being number 1.

    Pujara will get his chance one day and i know whats he gona do, nothing becuase when bowlers will read him, he will be exposed and will be gone in three four balls.

    Test cricket is hard, it is not played by luck, it is played by talent, experience and temprament. Let the old guys rule the world.

  • vaidyar on November 7, 2010, 4:39 GMT

    When he bays for blood, he really bays for blood. No beating around the bush. Has always been the biggest critic of dravid, even when he did well. Laxman can definitely score faster, but probably not the big runs required. Eventually it's about consistency and whom do you trust more for the job. And dhoni sent pujara up only to keep the more experienced ones lower, for the record.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:37 GMT

    Dravid apparently wants to achieve a couple of records b4 he leaves, which he made clear in his interview yesterday with Rediff.com. I think even the mgmt are keen to seeing Dravid achieve those records. The 1st one being the first man to take 200 catches; he's two short as of now. 2nd is that he wants to score 12000 runs. He's 294 runs short. Last but not the least, he wants to score sixty 50s. He currently has scored 59. Once he achieves all these, he'll hang up his boots. I really feel Pujara should be in the side, the more he plays along side Sachin and VVS, the better it'll be for him.

  • sashank on November 7, 2010, 4:25 GMT

    Mr. Chappell has a tendency to jump the gun a little when it comes to ushering in change. He made the same call on Sachin a couple of years ago. He has to remember - one swallow does not make a summer. To play on the South African pitches, and with their pace attack, one would back the experienced Dravid over Pujara any day.

    Also, since Pujara already had a chance to showcase his talents, he'll know it's only a matter of time before he makes it into the playing 11. And meanwhile, he'll cherish his place on the bench where he is now the first choice replacement for the aging middle-order where meanwhile, he can learn from all the experience around him.

  • Biophysicist on November 7, 2010, 4:20 GMT

    I wonder why you are picking on Dravid when his innings, though slow scoring, has most likely ensured that India doesn't lose the test? On the other hand, the most successful 'Cricketer of the Year' Sachin Tendulkar played at a much slower rate for his 40 runs. So the slow innings is not due to Dravid's poor form, but due to the slow track. If you want to look for someone whose form has declined significantly during the last two years and needs to be replaced, you don't have to look beyond Australian team. Ponting has not only failed as a player, but has been failing regularly as Captain as well. So why don't you write about why Ponting should not be playing any more test cricket. There is any way no chance for him to break Sachin's records, considering the form he is in now.

  • Sunrays on November 7, 2010, 4:19 GMT

    While agreeing with the conclusion - that the selectors (and captain) are more important than coach - the specific recommendation is debatable. Preferring Pujara over Dravid on the basis of the test is impractical for the simple reason that - no top test team hands out test caps just to see how a player goes. A player is always selected to a test team for the long run - not experimenting, which happens frequently in limited overs. Similarly, a drop from tests in general is final - you could go back on it but when you make it you do it when you think it is final, not to see how things go. Test caps are hard-earned and thus higher valued. You don't give them to see how things go.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:19 GMT

    Picking Dravid over Pujara against NZ: it's not a matter of timid selection, Ian. It's the Indian "seniority system."

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:18 GMT

    I would rather term this as "Dravid back in the team - Pujara needs to wait for his next outing". I have to say this, you Australian legends have something very much in common, profanity. Greg Chappel then and now with your outrageous comments. Nothing in personal, but it disappoints me the way you have rubbished Dravid and put displayed him as a minuscule. Before going on to an important as that to SouthAfrica, it is of prime importance that your top order players are in good health and touch. So, it is obviously a wise decision to have Dravid back into the team. I cannot imagine what would be the fate of Pujara if he goes to SouthAfrica and fails miserably. Poor soul, he is just into the big league and just 22 and certainly, he CAN wait.

    Pujara can use this time spent with the team to groom himself as a better batsman and individual under the guidance of the Big 3 and Sehwag. And I strongly vehement your opinion and equally supportive to the decision taken by the Indian Selectors.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:18 GMT

    I absolutely agree with Ian. This Indian team will be one of the strongest ever to visit South Africa. The batting is formidable, and the seam attack , while not the best in the world, is potent enough in "south african" conditions. Historically, our bowlers have done very well in South Africa.Even the pedestran Venky Prasad bagged regular 5 wicket hauls on the 1996-97 tour.Its the batting which has always proved to be fragile. We need an aggressive number 3 who can take the game by the sruff of the neck if need be. With the current batting line up, the need for a rescue act seems unlikely ( a role dravid has perfected over the years). Simply put, jammy is out of place in the current indian batting line up. It was sad to see him struggle and crawl at a snails place against the lowly new zealanders.He should have looked to dominate and assert himself, at the moment it looks like he is playing to save his spot in the team.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    Why does everyone bay for Rahul Dravid's blood. Allow him to play in South Africa and then Ian Chappell can comment. IMHO Rahul Dravid has been playing well in the T20s and it's the unnecessary pressure that is not allowing him to score. As long as India does not find the right person to overthrow Rahul Dravid, I don't think we should tamper with the No.3 spot. As far as I know you need somebody to blunt the opposition in South Africa and only 'The Wall' can do it.

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:14 GMT

    Mr.Chappel sir everyone knows the only two Indian Players whom you like in the team is Sehwag & Laxman. So it is not a surprise that you have come up with such an article.The next time please come up with an article as to why you don't regard Dravid, Sachin & Kumble as the best players. You have mentioned that Dravid has never been a dominant player in his entire career but the end of the matter is that he has been one of the best players & certainly one of the best No 3 players the world has ever seen. This is not based only upon stastics alone its based on the number of matches he has helped India in winning and also saving. Being dominant player does not mean that u have to go out and hit the ball right from ball one untill u get out.In Test matches its all about batting for the situation and for the team and there have never been instances when his style of batting has hurt Team India.All your articles one half will be praising an Indian player & other one will be pulling down one.

  • rajusa on November 7, 2010, 4:12 GMT

    The genius Ian chappell has concluded that a rookie who performed well in a single innings in a flat pitch against a mediocre attack should be selected ahead of a master batsman who has proven time and again that he has the technique to play any bowler in any condition. Dravid was just having a blip in his form, which any batsman can go through. You cannot just dump an established player just like that. I am proud that we indians do cheap things like that.

    Of course, this is the same Chappell who four years ago said that Sachin Tendulkar is playing only for money, will never regain his form and quit from cricket paving way for youngsters. And now we know who has to bite the dust.

    when somebody makes outrageous comments like that and its proved to be wrong, i think they should just quit making such comments or atleast apologize for making allegations without any substantiation.

  • 11Noobs on November 7, 2010, 4:10 GMT

    I agree Laxman needs to be promoted to 3 to keep the flow of runs, but Dravid cannot be dropped. He has been playing like this for 14 years and has helped create some of the most historic wins in Indian cricket. Dravid always starts off slow to get his eye in. His innings against NZ was a good example. Compare this with other cricketers like SRT and Laxman, they start from ball one but have more chances to get out, but that's their style. His most recent tour of Australia was an absolute disaster (which is what Chappell was mainly referring to), but he still managed to contribute a vital 93 in the only test India won. However, I feel sorry for Pujara and Vijay. Their in tough postions of being "back-ups" despite their good performances. PS- you should have written two seperate articles as this one will be flooded by Indians!

  • alexlt on November 7, 2010, 4:10 GMT

    Interesting thoughts Ian, I always enjoy reading your articles. Keep it up!

  • on November 7, 2010, 4:09 GMT

    Probably your first article way off the mark Mr. Chappell. But then again, we are entitled to have our opinions. Interesting to know yours.

  • banter123 on November 7, 2010, 4:06 GMT

    Don't try to settle your personal score over here mate. Dravid has umpteenth times proven his batting skills on bouncy and turning wickets where the rest of indian batsmen battle for there survival,no doubt pujara is a great prospect but a smooth transition from experienced to younger players is neccessary for world no.1 team or else it would be next AUSTRALIA.

    Regarding Johnson,due to his knack of picking wickets,no mkatter what bad form he is under,he is the best aussie bowler and can trouble the batsmen with reverse swing and widish deliveries...he is the only bowler who gets wicket with his worst bowls

  • perl57 on November 7, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    Ian, as usual, again off-target. First things first, concentrate on how pathetic Ozs are losing it. And what did ya say? Oz would not go down without a fight? Usually, I hate to disagree but this series, I hate to agree either. Did you see how they just put their hands up and lost both matches? Says a lot. I remember your question to BCCI saying Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman were once in a millennium line up and BCCI did nothing to unearth few talents under their leadership. Let me ask you back, what had Oz done with Pig, Warney and Dizzy? They should have groomed some youngsters and only people you could come up were Brett and Johnson. You are known to provide much better conundrums than just raise a controversy like Tony Greig. Its an understood fact that Pujara should have been at 3 in this test but same goes for Ponting also. He should retire and stop comparing himself with THE GAME.

  • Dravid-Supporters on November 7, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    What is he talking about? This man is behind the legend for some time now. First, it was Sachin Tendulkar, now Rahul. Remember he was asked Sachin to retire from International cricket and what he was saying about Dravid's innings in Motera was priceless and only boosted his career average. Does this person have any sense about cricket. He just want to destroy Indian cricket and never be supportive of good cricket. Dravid knows when he need to retire and also the current selectors know where he has to play..

  • ogu999 on November 7, 2010, 4:04 GMT

    Yes why not Ian? Sit in a cubicle and write what you want to.What you did on a field all those years ago is another thing altogether! Now after Pujara played that one off knock on a flat bed against a gum less Australian attack (no matter what you say there) he has to be the number 3 for India. Going on your advice India will have a free fall of a bungee jump. While Pujara is the future no 3, he cannot at this point replace Dravid. And then look at your record and then Dravid's?!Even in that game against NZ when Dravid got a hundred, that many disliked, the more aggressive and free flowing Laxman and Tendulkar, had very similar figures to Dravid's. On an average the three had scored 30 runs off 100 odd balls, and the only difference was that Dravid continued and got a hundred and the aggressive ones got out. Why don't you just advice Australia on their current losses and keep your pearls about India to yourself?It wasn't even Dhoni's great captaincy to promote Pujara, it was mere luck.

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:59 GMT

    I think it is more important for Pujara to play ahead of Raina. With all due respect Raina have had an amazing beginning to his Test career, but will he be able to continue the same play against SA given his well published problems against pace bowling. It seems highly unprobable. Playing him in test match against such futile bowling attack might also seriously affect his limited overs form ahead of much-anticipated World Cup. In case of Ashes Oz still have an upper hand given that England just doesn't have the right pace attack to succeed in Australia and their extremely fragile opening pair.

  • Cricket__sri on November 7, 2010, 3:58 GMT

    Ian..watz dis??thtz dravid's style of play.how cld u all say tht dravid be dropped n pujara given a place!?a single puple patch doesn't make dravid any less gr8..remember even when sachin underwent a lean patch u ppl said he shld retire nd now c how he plays nd u ppl say hez gr8! so never under-estimate dravid.He waz there wid viru in a classical 2nd wkt partnership..tht waz crucial. whatever others say RAHUL DRAVID=the GREAT Wall of India=FORTRESS as said by warne!!

  • 114_in_final_Six_overs on November 7, 2010, 3:54 GMT

    Good question! Why was a 22 year old impressive player was dropped for a 38 year old player. I know everyone will jump in to say Rahul has done this and that in the past and he is no doubt right up there with Sachin, Gavaskar and Sehwag as the modern Indian master of batting but he is in decline and must make way for Pujara. Otherwise in couple of years, just like Australia, all these great players will go at once and India will have to build from scratch. Worse, there will be no one to guide these young batsman. But Indian selectors always give such a long rope to establish players that it ends up being the noose around their neck.

  • Graeme_Swanns_Cat on November 7, 2010, 3:44 GMT

    Smith's bowling isn't good enough although i'd be delighted to see him play as an England supporter. Johnson is someone that we rate in England, which is a surprise given that he has been rubbish in this country. He takes wickets and has a good record at home. People need to get over the McWarne era though. They were bloody awesome but it's 4 years since they've retired. With both batting line ups not being great, the bowling might not look as poor as many expect.

    I did follow the Aus-India series closely and the young chap you've talked about was impressive in the 2nd test. You're spot on regarding Dravid. He has never been a dominant player and is highly overrated (only by Indian fans I may add). He form has been woeful vs the bigger teams over the past few years. Of course, he will fill his boots vs the likes of NZ and Bang. Aus have his number and he has gone missing vs Aus on their last 3 tours of India.

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 7, 2010, 3:40 GMT

    I want Ian Chappell to be a selector! Brilliant ideas! Steve Smith for Marcus North is so obvious yet nobody will talk about it. That way we avoid the need to have Nathan Hauritz for the sake of a spinner too, and in Brisbane can go in with a 4-pronged pace attack. Good job Chappelli. Where it does spin, in Sydney, Melbourne and possibly Adelaide, we can play Doherty.

  • Nipun on November 7, 2010, 3:39 GMT

    Had Sourav Ganguly played the innings Rahul Dravid played against New Zealand,Indians would have gone over the roof saying that Sourav is finished & he is a liability & he is serving no good to Indian cricket,etc etc.Indians would have given their lives to get the likes of Pujara or Rahane or Badrinath or Yuvraj,etc.get into the team instead of Sourav.Now that it is Rahul instead of Sourav,Indians are saying that Rahul will be back(when the last season he was prolific was in 2006),Rahul needs more time(when he is about 35 or 36),etc etc.!Politics!

  • AbhiKunj on November 7, 2010, 3:38 GMT

    I think Dravid is much better than he is given credit for. He can take the pressure and stay focused even when runs are hard to come by. He showed that in his partnership with Sehwag in the match against the kiwis. Pujara is no doubt a great batsman in making and he will get his opportunities. Would any one recommend dropping a Ponting or a Kallis just because they are going through a lean phase.

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:35 GMT

    Ian, I dont agree on this.... This is the same Indian team which,less than a year or ago, used to give the Rohit SHarma's and Raina's enough chances @home, and use Dravid for tough assignments like SA and NZ.... And the main reason being thewir faillings against the short ball....The same could be the case with Pujara too, we don't know yet,until he's tested on some bouncy and pacy wickets....So, I would, on any given da, go for someone who's been tried, tested and been successful, than a guy who's still an unknown!!!!

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:34 GMT

    @ Writer When you say "although he's never been a dominant player...", I guess Cricinfo is not just a place to express your PERSONAL OPINIONS. I would like to see some facts in support.

    :)

    Yep Pujara deserved to play more games.. but at cost of Dravid?

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:34 GMT

    Dear Ian thanks for your interest in Indian but we cannot help it dear.Rahul is in good form and has got lot cricket left with him.India will be producing young talents and will get their chance on time.Kindly take care of the Aussie cricket as they are going to hell these days and we don't want another west indies cricket team!!!!!We were very lucky that we have thrashed your brother from our cricket set up and are fortunate to have Gary as our coach.>>>>>>>>>>>

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:33 GMT

    He's hit a lean patch now, but without Dravid the Indian test team would have achieved nothing in the last 10 years

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    You never said the same thing about Hussey or Ponting when they were struggling.. I guess your and pundits like u said something similar about Sachin too. Until he shut you guys & now you are drooling about his performance.

    Completely understand its time to blood youngsters. But based on single performance on Indian track & against toothless aussie attack does not prove his point.

    Pujara will get his chances & we will know what he is made of.

    Chappel keep ur comments to losing aussie team for now :)

  • SpeedCricketThrills on November 7, 2010, 3:26 GMT

    Mr Chappel, in India we believe in treating 'legends' with dignity and respect. You can certainly advise us on strategy, technique, etc but please don't give opinions that touch on our culture, tradition and way of life.

    We shall decide when and how Dravid will make way for Pujara - in a manner that would look sensible and dignified to both.

    Mark my words - Pujara is not 'legend' material, though he will see success for sometime.

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  • SpeedCricketThrills on November 7, 2010, 3:26 GMT

    Mr Chappel, in India we believe in treating 'legends' with dignity and respect. You can certainly advise us on strategy, technique, etc but please don't give opinions that touch on our culture, tradition and way of life.

    We shall decide when and how Dravid will make way for Pujara - in a manner that would look sensible and dignified to both.

    Mark my words - Pujara is not 'legend' material, though he will see success for sometime.

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    You never said the same thing about Hussey or Ponting when they were struggling.. I guess your and pundits like u said something similar about Sachin too. Until he shut you guys & now you are drooling about his performance.

    Completely understand its time to blood youngsters. But based on single performance on Indian track & against toothless aussie attack does not prove his point.

    Pujara will get his chances & we will know what he is made of.

    Chappel keep ur comments to losing aussie team for now :)

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:33 GMT

    He's hit a lean patch now, but without Dravid the Indian test team would have achieved nothing in the last 10 years

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:34 GMT

    Dear Ian thanks for your interest in Indian but we cannot help it dear.Rahul is in good form and has got lot cricket left with him.India will be producing young talents and will get their chance on time.Kindly take care of the Aussie cricket as they are going to hell these days and we don't want another west indies cricket team!!!!!We were very lucky that we have thrashed your brother from our cricket set up and are fortunate to have Gary as our coach.>>>>>>>>>>>

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:34 GMT

    @ Writer When you say "although he's never been a dominant player...", I guess Cricinfo is not just a place to express your PERSONAL OPINIONS. I would like to see some facts in support.

    :)

    Yep Pujara deserved to play more games.. but at cost of Dravid?

  • on November 7, 2010, 3:35 GMT

    Ian, I dont agree on this.... This is the same Indian team which,less than a year or ago, used to give the Rohit SHarma's and Raina's enough chances @home, and use Dravid for tough assignments like SA and NZ.... And the main reason being thewir faillings against the short ball....The same could be the case with Pujara too, we don't know yet,until he's tested on some bouncy and pacy wickets....So, I would, on any given da, go for someone who's been tried, tested and been successful, than a guy who's still an unknown!!!!

  • AbhiKunj on November 7, 2010, 3:38 GMT

    I think Dravid is much better than he is given credit for. He can take the pressure and stay focused even when runs are hard to come by. He showed that in his partnership with Sehwag in the match against the kiwis. Pujara is no doubt a great batsman in making and he will get his opportunities. Would any one recommend dropping a Ponting or a Kallis just because they are going through a lean phase.

  • Nipun on November 7, 2010, 3:39 GMT

    Had Sourav Ganguly played the innings Rahul Dravid played against New Zealand,Indians would have gone over the roof saying that Sourav is finished & he is a liability & he is serving no good to Indian cricket,etc etc.Indians would have given their lives to get the likes of Pujara or Rahane or Badrinath or Yuvraj,etc.get into the team instead of Sourav.Now that it is Rahul instead of Sourav,Indians are saying that Rahul will be back(when the last season he was prolific was in 2006),Rahul needs more time(when he is about 35 or 36),etc etc.!Politics!

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 7, 2010, 3:40 GMT

    I want Ian Chappell to be a selector! Brilliant ideas! Steve Smith for Marcus North is so obvious yet nobody will talk about it. That way we avoid the need to have Nathan Hauritz for the sake of a spinner too, and in Brisbane can go in with a 4-pronged pace attack. Good job Chappelli. Where it does spin, in Sydney, Melbourne and possibly Adelaide, we can play Doherty.

  • Graeme_Swanns_Cat on November 7, 2010, 3:44 GMT

    Smith's bowling isn't good enough although i'd be delighted to see him play as an England supporter. Johnson is someone that we rate in England, which is a surprise given that he has been rubbish in this country. He takes wickets and has a good record at home. People need to get over the McWarne era though. They were bloody awesome but it's 4 years since they've retired. With both batting line ups not being great, the bowling might not look as poor as many expect.

    I did follow the Aus-India series closely and the young chap you've talked about was impressive in the 2nd test. You're spot on regarding Dravid. He has never been a dominant player and is highly overrated (only by Indian fans I may add). He form has been woeful vs the bigger teams over the past few years. Of course, he will fill his boots vs the likes of NZ and Bang. Aus have his number and he has gone missing vs Aus on their last 3 tours of India.