New Zealand v India, 4th ODI, Hamilton January 28, 2014

'Not sure of our fast-bowling choices' - Dhoni

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'We don't have our fast bowlers set for the World Cup' - Dhoni

MS Dhoni has called for vast improvement from his fast bowlers after their inability to exert any pressure on New Zealand, with 278 on the board, led to a 0-3 series defeat with a game to go. India's failure to contain the opposition has been a major factor in their run of six successive overseas ODIs without a win, and Dhoni said he had no clarity at the moment on which fast bowlers he could take with him to the 2015 World Cup.

"When it comes to the bowling department, we are still in the same phase wherein we are still looking at who our permanent bowlers are," Dhoni said. "We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries. Fast bowling, we are still not sure who our choices are and what individuals we are looking forward to.

"Back at home we talk about pace and bounce. We get bowlers who can bowl quick but they end up giving more runs without even bowling at the slog. So we have to find a fair balance.

"We need a fair amount of improvement especially in our bowling department. If the batsman is playing good shots, you accept it but it is important that we bowl according to what the plan is and not go off it. To some extent it was quite a disappointing bowling performance from the fast bowlers. But the positive is the spinners bowled really well."

Ravindra Jadeja and R Ashwin slowed New Zealand considerably after the first ten overs, giving away just 30 runs in the next ten. But on either side of that period, boundaries flowed off the fast bowlers, nullifying the pressure the spinners had been able to create. Dhoni said the quicks had been unable to stick to what had been planned.

"It was a wicket where you would like the bowlers to hit the back of length mark close to the off-stump area but right from the start we gave away too many boundaries," Dhoni said. "We gave too much width to the batsmen and the balls were quite short, which meant they could freely score off them. So we didn't start off well. Not only that, after the 10th over when we initiated the spinners to come and bowl, they bowled quite well and then when we again asked the fast bowlers to come back and bowl, they gave away the runs freely, which means we weren't able to hang on to the pressure created by the spinners."

Jadeja and Ashwin troubled Kane Williamson and Ross Taylor with turn and bounce during that initial ten-over period. A wicket at that point could have meant a different game, but Dhoni took both spinners off after five overs each. He did not have faith in his fast bowlers after seeing their opening spells and decided to hold back his spinners for the latter stage of the chase, by when he expected the asking-rate would have climbed.

"I saw the first ten overs how the fast bowlers bowled. I wasn't sure they would be able to keep the pressure on. So I personally thought that it was important to keep the spinners, especially Jadeja, and use them later to some extent when they [New Zealand] had to go for the big shots. But the way the fast bowlers bowled in the middle overs, it meant that they never really had to play those big shots. That was a crucial phase where, with the open field, we should not have given away too many runs. But we were giving a boundary every over and we were not able to build any pressure."

Dhoni said he was happy with the talent pool of fast bowlers within the side but stressed that the bowlers needed to learn how to improvise according to the situation.

"When it comes to the talent part, we definitely have bowlers who can bowl well," Dhoni said. "But at the same time they will have to start using their brains more and improvise themselves what needs to be done. This is one area where we lack when it comes to the fast-bowling department. But if you just see the talent aspect definitely we have got bowlers who can do well.

"Shami is someone who has been quite consistent apart from this series. Bhuvi has been off this series but he has been good overall. If you look at the whole pool of bowlers, we can keep working on them, but at the end of the day they need to push themselves because with rule changes it is going to be quite tough. But it hasn't been rule changes in this series, it has been bad bowling. We have to keep it tight, but we have a pool of bowlers when it comes to talent."

Abhishek Purohit is a sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • dilscoop_uk on January 30, 2014, 23:30 GMT

    The great Wasim Akram always says that the county cricket is best "academy" for a fast bowler to polish their bowling skills.Infact he himself improved his bowling by playing years and years of county cricket. I wonder how many Indian bowlers are playing county or even interested in playing county. Any comments ?

  • dilscoop_uk on January 30, 2014, 23:22 GMT

    Respect and sympathy for Dhoni(for his own talent) but this statement " Pool of the bowlers in India" ? is quite funny for me.I remember Kapil Dev once said in India every1 wants to be like Sachin , and because Bowling is a tough job no one wants to do. Even in IPL or Ranjhi trophy I dont see any "pool" .So where is he going to find the bowler from?Unfortunately for India this Worldcup is in Australia.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 30, 2014, 21:20 GMT

    Agree with @fguy - Dhoni said. "We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries."

    So Ashwin & SRJ can relax bcoz they are guaranteed to retain their spots. On a pitch that assisted spinners they take a grand total of 0 wickets in 20 overs against #8 side who arent renowned players of spin.

    Ashwin was bowling utter tripe. An off spinner who doesn't turn the ball & is bowling a middle-and-leg-stump line every delivery, who has taken grand total of 2 wickets in 7 odi's & 1 test, is our No. 1 spinner ?? Ashwin should be kicked out of the India team. Try Amit Mishra, Pervez Rasool, etc. A spinners job is to take wickets - not just contain runs. If Sir Jadeja can't take wickets - he should be kicked out too.

  • INDSlider on January 30, 2014, 8:30 GMT

    (last five completed matches, most recent first) New Zealand WTWWL India LTLLL

  • on January 30, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    india should play with 11 batsman and chase the target of 600 (or more)...then only we can win...................

  • hari997 on January 30, 2014, 6:21 GMT

    Feel for Dhoni nw...fast bowlers has to be produced..with one year left for the worldcup..its big time!! Bhuvi & Shami are for sure..but for 1 more bowler who can support them..it should be Yadav,if he bowls in good areas & some yorkers,with his pace hes really dangerous. And in batting im not sure of Dhawans position as hes playing such irresponsible cricket & giving Gambhir a chance is not that bad..and for sure Pujara should be included in ODI XI , @ 4 after Kohli..probably.

  • ThePacifist10 on January 30, 2014, 2:37 GMT

    NZ is supposed to be a country where a good bowler can extract prodigious swing. However, we've had slow tracks dished out to us this series, unsuitable for our seamers. Not that I expected them to just give us the series on a platter, just to be clear. The NZ coach Hesson said he wanted green tracks. We've been beaten on flat tracks. Our bowlers simply need assistance from the pitch. I hope we have some nice green tracks for the Tests. I'm sure our batsmen will deliver, and I will eat my own words if they don't. If anything, I believe in our batsmen. Give Shami a little bit of assistance from the pitch, however, and he'll become an extremely dangerous bowler along with Bhuvi. Therefore, NZ. Go green! :)

  • legfinedeep on January 30, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    It is well-known that the pitches in India are never going to chase. Runfests bring in crowds, crowds bring in money, money brings in huge profits for BCCI. So, since we can't change that - why don't Indian bowlers go play in the offseason in the SA or Aust domestic circuit. Imagine raw Indian bowlers getting to hone their skills on their venomous tracks in SA etc, and playing alongside other natural fast bowlers. I don't see why this can't be done?

  • gothamknight on January 29, 2014, 23:52 GMT

    absolutely embarrassing performance. batsmen again playing stupid shots straight to fielders leaving the lower order to do the work. pace bowlers were pathetic - just unreliable. how is india supposed to win games when Dhoni has nothing to work with. they need some discipline. practice for 5 hours just bowling at a specific point on the pitch. we need more than 5 specialist batsmen too. ad what was the point of binny when he gets 1 over and no bat. line up should be: shikar, rohit, virat, cheteshwar, suresh, dhoni, ashwin, jadeja, bhuvneshwar, aaron. and another bowler.

  • My-Dear-Watson on January 29, 2014, 23:25 GMT

    Now when Srini and team is in charge of ICC can't they amend the rules to import the likes of Steyn and Johnson and make them play for India :)

  • dilscoop_uk on January 30, 2014, 23:30 GMT

    The great Wasim Akram always says that the county cricket is best "academy" for a fast bowler to polish their bowling skills.Infact he himself improved his bowling by playing years and years of county cricket. I wonder how many Indian bowlers are playing county or even interested in playing county. Any comments ?

  • dilscoop_uk on January 30, 2014, 23:22 GMT

    Respect and sympathy for Dhoni(for his own talent) but this statement " Pool of the bowlers in India" ? is quite funny for me.I remember Kapil Dev once said in India every1 wants to be like Sachin , and because Bowling is a tough job no one wants to do. Even in IPL or Ranjhi trophy I dont see any "pool" .So where is he going to find the bowler from?Unfortunately for India this Worldcup is in Australia.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 30, 2014, 21:20 GMT

    Agree with @fguy - Dhoni said. "We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries."

    So Ashwin & SRJ can relax bcoz they are guaranteed to retain their spots. On a pitch that assisted spinners they take a grand total of 0 wickets in 20 overs against #8 side who arent renowned players of spin.

    Ashwin was bowling utter tripe. An off spinner who doesn't turn the ball & is bowling a middle-and-leg-stump line every delivery, who has taken grand total of 2 wickets in 7 odi's & 1 test, is our No. 1 spinner ?? Ashwin should be kicked out of the India team. Try Amit Mishra, Pervez Rasool, etc. A spinners job is to take wickets - not just contain runs. If Sir Jadeja can't take wickets - he should be kicked out too.

  • INDSlider on January 30, 2014, 8:30 GMT

    (last five completed matches, most recent first) New Zealand WTWWL India LTLLL

  • on January 30, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    india should play with 11 batsman and chase the target of 600 (or more)...then only we can win...................

  • hari997 on January 30, 2014, 6:21 GMT

    Feel for Dhoni nw...fast bowlers has to be produced..with one year left for the worldcup..its big time!! Bhuvi & Shami are for sure..but for 1 more bowler who can support them..it should be Yadav,if he bowls in good areas & some yorkers,with his pace hes really dangerous. And in batting im not sure of Dhawans position as hes playing such irresponsible cricket & giving Gambhir a chance is not that bad..and for sure Pujara should be included in ODI XI , @ 4 after Kohli..probably.

  • ThePacifist10 on January 30, 2014, 2:37 GMT

    NZ is supposed to be a country where a good bowler can extract prodigious swing. However, we've had slow tracks dished out to us this series, unsuitable for our seamers. Not that I expected them to just give us the series on a platter, just to be clear. The NZ coach Hesson said he wanted green tracks. We've been beaten on flat tracks. Our bowlers simply need assistance from the pitch. I hope we have some nice green tracks for the Tests. I'm sure our batsmen will deliver, and I will eat my own words if they don't. If anything, I believe in our batsmen. Give Shami a little bit of assistance from the pitch, however, and he'll become an extremely dangerous bowler along with Bhuvi. Therefore, NZ. Go green! :)

  • legfinedeep on January 30, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    It is well-known that the pitches in India are never going to chase. Runfests bring in crowds, crowds bring in money, money brings in huge profits for BCCI. So, since we can't change that - why don't Indian bowlers go play in the offseason in the SA or Aust domestic circuit. Imagine raw Indian bowlers getting to hone their skills on their venomous tracks in SA etc, and playing alongside other natural fast bowlers. I don't see why this can't be done?

  • gothamknight on January 29, 2014, 23:52 GMT

    absolutely embarrassing performance. batsmen again playing stupid shots straight to fielders leaving the lower order to do the work. pace bowlers were pathetic - just unreliable. how is india supposed to win games when Dhoni has nothing to work with. they need some discipline. practice for 5 hours just bowling at a specific point on the pitch. we need more than 5 specialist batsmen too. ad what was the point of binny when he gets 1 over and no bat. line up should be: shikar, rohit, virat, cheteshwar, suresh, dhoni, ashwin, jadeja, bhuvneshwar, aaron. and another bowler.

  • My-Dear-Watson on January 29, 2014, 23:25 GMT

    Now when Srini and team is in charge of ICC can't they amend the rules to import the likes of Steyn and Johnson and make them play for India :)

  • on January 29, 2014, 21:59 GMT

    Since my childhood days i have never seen fast bowlers in indian team . Zaheer is the only exception but he is old and done..this is not something that happened overnight or even in the past two years... BUt this is due to years and years of negligence to Fast bowling and not preparing good pitches in india. Honestly who would want to be a fast bowler in india..everyone looks upto Kohli and Dhoni but does someone really want to be a Zaheer... INstead of cribbing just wait for the next world cup to be held in india to have a chance.. BCCI got enough money to make good pitches to promote fast bowlers.

  • GrindAR on January 29, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    Dhoni,

    Why dont you think out-of-the-boxl. Bring in 1 more spinning alrounder... may be amit mishra, and been satisfied with 2 pacers. and use the second pacer only when required. It does not require to have atleast 3 seamers. Strength of India is spin, why dont you use them as much needed and fill in the gaps with seamers. There are days with 1 seamer and 1 spinner for opening overs and then tricked down more of spin and less of seam. If you need to win, you gotto use your resources wisely. Nobody is banning you from all spin attack... Let the cry babies cry about all spin tactics you know... If I am the captain of this team, I would dare to do that, it will pay off better than the current options.

  • bhushanB on January 29, 2014, 21:25 GMT

    These are the kind of statements that make me disgusted with DHONI...just a few days back he had a settled side.. and now the 100 odd aspiring spinners in India have no chance to play for their country for the next two years...really....

    We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries

  • bhushanB on January 29, 2014, 20:40 GMT

    If a player is thrust into the final X1 against his wish...like Binny..... look how Dhoni handled him........padded up to go in at 8 and a single over to bowl.......

    Dhoni is so stubborn that he would rather play with 10 players to satisfy his EGO, rather than give Binny his deserved chance to bat & bowl...

  • bhushanB on January 29, 2014, 20:34 GMT

    Dhoni will defend his players... when HIS players do not perform well...which is always the case...

    In the one-off match when OTHER players do not perform well.. and HIS players do OK, he will start bashing the players.. for not playing per plan etc...

    When Ishant was in the playing X1, he feels he has a settled side.... even when he failed match after match.... but when he is out of the team... he suddenly has no idea of which fast bowlers to choose...

  • justbecoz on January 29, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    it's a matter of days if not months when team India may not depend on fast bowlers to win any match. Once, they take control of world cricket, all bilateral tours would have stringent clauses duly approved by BCCI that India will play only on pitches its experts approve, moreover, no fast bowler above 130 kmph will be allowed in the opposition team.Other clauses may be incorporated depending on the situation, thereby, team India shall always remain team #1. Like the true world champions they are. Did someone say NewZealand....hush..!!

  • on January 29, 2014, 19:13 GMT

    Indian fast bowlers are non-existent species. India has some medium fast bowlers who can swing/seam. In pitches like AUS, NZ, ENG the ball does not wear as fast as it does in sub-continent to get the reverse swing going. Also these bowlers dont know how to bowl fast and full OR short to use the high bounce to unsettle the batsmen. Fast/full will be a full toss and short ones will sit in air waiting to be hit. So they will go for runs. To train a fast bowler you need to provide conditions where they play 1st class level, domestic and home test matches. Domestic pitches are made for spinners and fast bowlers are not needed. I can't understand why Dhoni should blame them when they play abraod without experience. His team's record outside India is pathetic in ENG, AUS, SA, NZ. So this is nothing new.

  • samincolumbia on January 29, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    I am sure for the next series, Raina and Ishant will be back! Of course, Ashwin will never be dropped since his role is to contain runs! How can you take wickets when you cannot spin the ball? Jadeja is the only spinner for India. Dhoni likes so surround himself with his CSK mates and "yes" men.

  • fguy on January 29, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    "When it comes to the bowling department, we are still in the same phase wherein we are still looking at who our permanent bowlers are," Dhoni said. "We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries."

    so Ashwin & SRJ can chill now & lay back on hammocks & sip pina coladas bcoz they are guaranteed to retain their spots. even though on a pitch that assisted spinners they take a grand total of 0 wickets in 20 overs against #8 side who arent renowned players of spin. SRJ then too bowled decently. ashwin was bowling utter tripe. offspinner who doesnt turn the ball & is bowling a middle-and-leg-stump line every delivery, who has taken grand total of 2 wickets in 7 odi's & 1 test, is our No. 1 spinner ?? even his own coach trashed him in the media the other day.

  • silentassassin_88 on January 29, 2014, 18:06 GMT

    Bowling has been India's perennial problem since Kumble left and harbhajan and Zak lost their touch. Indian bowling was better when Venkatesh prasad was the bowling coach. When BCCI is pondering about IPL schedule and revenue in international arena, can't they shell out few thousand dollars to hire a bowling coach? I think BCCI can afford a bowling coach. BCCI should stop flexing its muscle and concentrate on the performance of their team.

  • Texmex on January 29, 2014, 17:36 GMT

    Give Dhoni a break. What have Bhuvi, Varun, Sami did last 2 games? They were bowling on the same wicket as Mills, Southee - right??

    As for Ashwin he is a good all rounder and will soon start taking wickets.

    The turning point in this match when Dhoni took both spinners off after 5 overs. He should have at least bowled out one and if one of Kane or Taylor had gotten out things would have been different.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 29, 2014, 17:35 GMT

    All the people asking for Binny - he is in the team simply because his father is a national selector. Other than that he is just a club level player.

    How will we find good pace bowlers if we don't give chances to bowlers than the same old Ishant Sharma, Unadkat, and Vinay Kumar?? These 3 bowlers won't even get selected into Afghanistan team. Our Ranji teams like J&K have no shortage of good fast bowlers. We have bowlers like Rishi Dhawan, Pankaj Singh, Anureet Singh, and Samad Fallah taking loads of wickets in the Ranji Trophy. Why won't our Selectors give them a chance ?? When will BCCI be held accountable for its actions?? Maybe it's a time for Aam Admi Party takeover of BCCI.

  • PPL11 on January 29, 2014, 17:18 GMT

    Dhoni Dhoni Dhoni - You stick with non performer in your team even if they dont perform for 20+ ODIs for example, I. Sharma, R. Ashwin - You do not replace them and then come here and complain !! Grow up mate

  • glen1 on January 29, 2014, 17:16 GMT

    Dhoni forget about fast bowling options; nothing is going to materialize. For the next world cup, play three spinners against most teams like Aus, SA, NZ, and to some extent England. The spinners can easily manage thirty overs and get you a score that can be hunted down. All these spinners can bat reasonably well, and can also bowl with close-to a new ball. Team for the next world cup should be Dhawan, Sharma, Pujara, Kohli, Raina/Raidu/Rahane, Dhoni, Jadega, Ashwin, Mishra, Bhuvi, Zaheer. Shami, Aaron, Ishanth cannot keep runs down. Pandey and Mishra can be tried in the next ODI against NZ.

  • symsun on January 29, 2014, 16:46 GMT

    During Ganguly, Dravid era, we used to have lot of training camps for the players. And all international players used to play local tournaments (ODI, 4-day matches). But time had changed. BCCI's main aim to get more money and also acquire ICC.

  • amastana on January 29, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    Guys, BCCi will only realize when Indian ppl will stop going to the grounds to watch .. They are making tons of money from us and at the end of the day this is what they care for. So doesnt matter who is in the team, even selection committee don't care about it.

  • on January 29, 2014, 16:21 GMT

    He just treated Binny as someone in gully cricket treats a new player. Send him to bat at the end and give just one over to prove himself. Obviously he was not happy dropping Raina and wanted him back at any cost. Ashwin has just one wicket in 4 matches with 5 runs per over and he is happy with his performance. Not sure why we call this team Indian team. It should be csk.

  • silentassassin_88 on January 29, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    Congrats to Kiwis. Outplayed India to win the series. This Indian team reminds me of 90's. Lose without fight. NZ never looked shaky throughout the chase. As an Indian fan, it pains to see this team perform badly in recent ODI series in SA and NZ.

    More than the pacers, it is the lack of imagination from the captain that hurts the fans. Dhoni says that the series is lost because of the pacers, which is partially true. Why did Ishant travel to NZ and SA? Did dhoni use all the options available? Did he try Ishwar pandey or Umesh yadav? Why did he select Binny if he is not going to bat and bowl just 1 over.For how many series, did he bench Mishra? It doen't need any special genius to play more spinners when you are running out of fast bowling options and NZ is playing cautiously against spinners.Fact is NZ batsmen are more vulnerable to spin than pace. Mishra could have applied more pressure and he is still a decent leg spinner outside sub continent. Wake up skipper!!

  • BigINDFan on January 29, 2014, 16:10 GMT

    Captains like MSD and Cook are not inspirational captains. They expect their teams to show up and deliver based on a set plan and if things go awry they want the players to improvise. Ind need to ask if they want MSD the captain for WC2015 or MSD the wicketkeeper/batsman? My choice is to change the captain to someone young and passionate like Kohli or even Rohit Sharma (his game improved when he was captaining Mumbai Indians).

    MSD is right about fast bowlers thinking and not just bowling. For that Ind needs a proper bowling coach who can work on their line and length, varying pace,yorkers etc. If Malinga retires then he should be brought on as coach. Of course there is McGrath, Brett Lee etc. Mike Hussey should be brought on as batting coach for his skills and brains. Ind has money so use it and get results.

    Team selection need to be clear - drop those who do not perform and rotate players to get your best consistent XI. Why drop Zak, he can play one more WC with his experience?

  • myStraightTalk on January 29, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    Who is taking responsible for India loss abroad? BCCI show the Indian cricket lover our cricket system works on Merit system and not on past talent.

  • myStraightTalk on January 29, 2014, 15:53 GMT

    wow. Dhoni blames the fast bowlers after given ample time to prove his captainship abroad. He has to learn from NZ in rotating the fast bowler effectively. Its time for Kohli as Captain and its not too late. If Indians are series in winning the world cup they have to change the captain now.

  • samvarma on January 29, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    I always wonder what does fast bowling coach for India do ? . I have not seen any improvement for last many years.

  • THINK_BEYOND on January 29, 2014, 15:29 GMT

    So Mr. Dhoni - now you know that there is problem with fast bowling department, and that fast bowling allrounders would be better option in ENG, AUS, NZ conditions. I think even a child in India knows that. The first world cup India won in England under Kapil Dev, India used to have many such allrounders (Amarnath, Binny and MadanLal). NZ, SA and AUS would do well in next ODI WC for sure, since they have many options who can bowl fast and can bat well. ENG bit inconsistent, so do not want to bet on them. Mr. Dhoni please ask BCCI to develop fast pitches in India for domestic tournaments.

  • Ibanezfan on January 29, 2014, 15:29 GMT

    I think there is some merit in the suggestion that Ashwin be dropped for the next few overseas series. He needs to go away and find his mojo again. The only real role in the team for him can be as a lead spinner that provides breakthroughs. If all the team needed was a non performer, Dhoni could have stuck with Harbhajan who can at least whack a six or two if required. Perhaps Ojha can be given an extended run while Ashwin works on his skills. We're seeing Indian cricket revert to the days before the Dravid-Ganguly era. Boring, tedious losses with no real fight in the team. It wasn't that long ago that Kumble, Bhajji and Zaheer could bowl out opposition teams. The BCCI must focus on better pitches and improved training as well as regular overseas/county stints for Indian players while building up to an international career. Instead, our esteemed cricket board devises a class system in international cricket, blithely ignoring the rot in the system. Some priorities, huh?

  • on January 29, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    Time and again we hear Dhoni talking about our fats bowlers problems but has the Selection committee and the coaches put in any effort to correct this problem? I dont think so and from the way things are going our Coaches look like Amateurs. Look at what the NZ coaches have done, they have found out how Indian batsmen are weak playing the short ball and on the off-side , so they pack the offside field and bowl on the offside and even the bouncers are wide of the off stump and our batsmen try to be heroic and pull those wide balls into the safe hands of NZ fielders. Dhoni has not presented NZ batsmen with any thing new in bowlers and sticks to Ashwin, whom NZ have studied hard. So the tactic would be use Mishra as a change and see what happens and Mishra has been a better hitter than Ashwin as was evident from his batting in England, but was not given a chance. If you do not have faith in Binny why did you bring him along, instead of some Under 19 players ?

  • Amit_13 on January 29, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    Is there anyone who picks himself in this side? On current form, just Jadeja and I say that with tremendous heartache.

  • THINK_BEYOND on January 29, 2014, 15:15 GMT

    @Sultan2007 : Well said about Yuvi, completely agree:). But it is normal in India, isn't it to forget the real heroes. Remember when Ganguly was removed from captaincy, there was so much of negativity flowing around from most of the Indians. Anyone who understands cricket better would still rate him as by far the greatest captain of India. I am also happy with Dhoni as a player, but not as a captain. Even though he should still stay as captain for ODI and T20, don't find reason why he is the captain of India's test team (that too in ENG, AUS, NZ conditions). Do you think he can play his helicopter shot when the ball is swinging and bouncing.

  • on January 29, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    bcci should appoint wasim akram or waqar younis as bowling coach ..

  • on January 29, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    its better if india exchange any pakistani fast bowlers like junaid khan or any other young talented fast bowler in place of raina , rohit , dhawan etc .. if this is not possible they shd appoint wasim akram or waqar younis as bowling coach ...

  • Test_Real_Cricket on January 29, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    Mr. Captain, pls groom fresh fast bowlers, you always trust old bowlers, but not giving new comers deserved chances, give them due respect and a chance to showcase their talent. Else you can't be a good captain. Rohit got enough chances, let others play. Umesh, aron, binny, eshwar are also best bets. Trust and give the ball in their hand. Hope you will change ur strategy. No doubt u r the best cap.

  • 504429641 on January 29, 2014, 13:23 GMT

    @Madhu Ayyagari - Raina and Ishant are dropped. Regarding Ashwin, he has done well with ball in 3rd and 4th ODIs. Also with bat in 3rd ODI. Agreed he has done badly before that, but atleast he has started to improve now.

  • on January 29, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    Another blame game from "Dhoni the great".What support these lobby of batsmen and officials giving to fast bowlers? At home moaning for rank turners and flat tracks where kings of flat tracks and tarantulas can boost their individual records. A fast bowler is the one who needs to work hard to be fit and most athletic. Support them by building sporting tracks at home where they can grow their skills.

  • on January 29, 2014, 12:56 GMT

    If Bhuvi, Aaron and Shami are not doing their job properly, what are Ashwin, Raina and Ishant doing in the team?

  • on January 29, 2014, 12:26 GMT

    dhoni rightly put his bowlers on notice. having said that-dhoni needs to be patient with his current crop of bowlers because most of them are on their debut tours. I think dhoni & co should groom bowlers like varun, umesh , bhuvi, ishwar pandey & shami. On the bowler's part, they indeed need to pull their socks up. be it any format, u need to bowl the opposition out to win matches more often than not.

  • on January 29, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    I think dhoni is right in ticking off his bowlers. u cant expect the batsman to outscore the opposition to cover up the deficiencies of the bowlers, especially overseas. even in recent home series against Australia, indian batters had to chase more than 300 everytime they went out to bat. I think with the new rules, it is very important for the bowlers to maintain right line & length & not deviate from the plan. I think dhoni should stick to his best quartet of bowlers & persist with them irrespective of results.

  • on January 29, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    First of all Mr.MSD we salute you, becoz you are the one who don't know how to utilize your bowlers, you are the one who always goes for unorthodox fielding position and you are the one who take bowlers out of action immediately when they take wicket and you are the one who at the time of applying pressure goes for part timer. Tell us Mr.MSD are you maintaing some kind of fixed deposit of your main bowlers full quote of over. U blame bowlers but now it's rarity when your bowlers finishes there full quote of over.

    You don't know where to put fielders and opposition gets boundries just by glancing or flicking.

    And by your interview it is clear tha Ashwin and jadeja will be the spinners for WC 2015 so it is a goodbye to bhajji. Ashwin has the worst record as a spinner playing outside home.

    I don't know how you are finding such excuses after continously losing outside home and that also by some margin.

    Way to go sir... Just make sure we don't lose 4-0 other wise it will be an insult.

  • Sultan2007 on January 29, 2014, 11:24 GMT

    I am trying to reconcile the performance that won the Champions Trophy in England a few months ago with the performance in NZ. NZ conditions should have been broadly similar from a bowling perspective. I guess the glaring difference is the performance of the openers - especially Dhawan. Jadeja has been consistent. Ashwin less so. Leaving too much on Dhoni and Kohli. Fielding declined. I wonder whether the position taken on Yuvi is a bit premature. Cant believe that The Player of the last World Cup is being eclipsed by Binny and Rayudu. Yuvi has far greater proven pedigree with both bat and ball. What is the constant between the T20 and the ODI World Cups that India Won? Winning performances by Yuvi. This is not to suggest that we should automatically select Yuvi. I think the team management should make it its mission to get Yuvi firing for WC 2015 for the balance he brings to the Team and his ability to transform games. Oppositions fear and respect him and that is important

  • on January 29, 2014, 10:31 GMT

    why u all said that india does not have good fast bowlers .zaheer is there .in young department ,go and watch sandeep sharma of punjab ,what a beautifull bowler .parveen kumar is also a very good bowler .he is always economical and strikes in opening overs.and for pace go and watch J&K bowlers .the real problem is to find and deveolp them

  • on January 29, 2014, 10:29 GMT

    We desperately need bowlers who would fit into the class like those of Steyn etc. And for that India needs a good bowling coach. There is a lot of talent in line but thet don't get a fair chance. I think an ideal team should have 4 specialist batsman, 2 allrounders, 4 specialist bowlers, and a keeper. One most important thing is that players need to work very hard on their play. Ofcousrse they have the best talent in them. But it needs to be sharpened every day. Only then they can give the best performance.

  • on January 29, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    @eilsaky : i have seen u stressing Chennai ..so much..?? What is Rohit sharma doing the swuad from SA series..? i dont think he belongs to chennai...!! ?? why dnt u take his name..??i smell a frustrated MI fan over here..!!

  • DingDong420 on January 29, 2014, 10:17 GMT

    Dhoni doesnt like it when his players are left out....he doesnt give the bowlers a chance, he knocks the confidence of bowlers like Aaron / Yadav so that he can have Ishant back in the team......Why did Binny only bowl an over ???

  • Just_Sam on January 29, 2014, 10:09 GMT

    Apart from a Fast Bowling coach, Indian Batsmen also need coaching on how to play Short Pitched bowling. Even some of the NZ / SAF pacers with mediocre speed were able to torment all Indian batsmen with short pitched bowling, where as India's pacers with better speed went for easy runs. Even on Indian pitches, Oz bowlers totally dominated some of the Indian batsmen (i.e Yuvi, Raina etc) with short pitched bowling and proved them total failures.Technique is keyword.

  • eilsaky on January 29, 2014, 10:07 GMT

    Dhoni's record as captain abroad 0-9 in tests and 3-15 with 2 ties in ODIs. And yet I cannot think of any other captain in World Cricket who is more secure of his job! Thanks to the Chennai coterie !!

  • eilsaky on January 29, 2014, 10:04 GMT

    Only Chennai Super Kings fan supporting and defending Dhoni :-) Seems Dhoni is happy with his spinners who havnt taken any wickets. Bhajji is completely forgotton; for what fault or failure I cant understand. He many believe is still the best spinner India has in limited overs cricket specially on foreign soil. Ashwin is completely useless, he isn't reliable as a batsman or a bowler. He hasnt even been able to beat the batsmen. Raina and Jaddu will keep playing for India till Mr. Srinivasan remains the president of BCCI. Indian cricket is going down and will continue to do so as long as Mr Srinivasan is incharge of BCCI.

  • Just_Sam on January 29, 2014, 9:59 GMT

    I am surprised why everybody fails to see the point - INDIA has always been in desperate need of a qualified and established Fast Bowling coach. Ian Chatfiled of New Zealand, Aquib Javed of Pakistan, Bruce Reid of Australia comes to mind. Never go for super stars i.e. Wasim Akram, Kapil Dev, Waqar Younis, Alan Donald etc because they will only talk big and deliver too less.

  • on January 29, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    I think now msd takes strict decision not to stick with his favorite player it's time to comeback of gambhir and zahir khan. I think in next match chance to amit mishra and drop ashwin because ashwin not able to taking wicket outside India. Also give a chance to Ishwar pandey on place of varon.

  • Lalz on January 29, 2014, 8:34 GMT

    Hello Dhoni,

    I understand your concern. If you were concerned about WC 2015 you would have tested players in bench instead you keep on sticking with same players irrespective of the failures. On what merit are you still backing Raina, Ishanth, Ashwin.. They all can deliver one day of their own. But we can't wait till they perform.. See Kohli, he is adapting to situation.. All Ind fans know if India wins, there will be either Kohli at top order or will be Dhoni at bottom who saved the game. We need some match winners other than these two ..And in bowlers part we need to find some one consistent.. Shami and Bhuvi are good need to be economical too. Try all top 10 bowlers for it. We dont have much time to test.. Schedule a A team tour to SA or AUS and find the talents for next Senior level tours..Bring Pujara as he can save some games by holding his wicket..Try Mishra or any better spinner instead of Ashwin.

  • ramli on January 29, 2014, 8:21 GMT

    Fast bowlers are supposed to utilize the new ball and freshness in the pitch to enhance the returns. What is the purpose if anybody thinks that bowling first ten overs will be costly? Did not the NZ fast bowlers bowl well in first ten overs? It is simple fact that India fast bowlers lack ideas as well as execution. MSD can simply choose 3 spinners for the next match and do away with fast bowlers. The result won't be different anyway!!

  • on January 29, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    India's DNA as a country is batting and not bowling. We may never get match winning fast bowlers. That is the fact which is quite hard to digest. What can a captain do if his fast bowlers are not capable to bowl well EVEN IN BOWLER FRIENDLY CONDITIONS. Don't blame the captain.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on January 29, 2014, 7:32 GMT

    Zak has less energy in him and India need to utilize him for tests only. Nehara and Munaf are finished. So as Irfan Pathan. How can you forgot loss to BD in Asia cup where he gifted runs. It is funny that people asking for Irfan not based on his performances but some other reasons.No need to go for tested and failed players. Both Umesh and Ishant got enough chances in ODIs to prove but failed. Only Shami and Bhuvi did reasonably well. But need to find one more in the team and another as a backup. Other than the problem at the top, batting seems to be fine. Gambhir can be considered as an opener again. Let the 3 fight for their place in the team.

  • on January 29, 2014, 7:21 GMT

    I Think Indian bowling department is lacking in experience, Its clear now India does not have match winning bowlers bowers.

    So its right time they should Bring Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan & Umesh Yadav...and we can use Jadeja and ashwin as Batting allrounders

    My Suggested Team is

    1. S Dhawan 2. R Sharma 3. V kohli 4. A Rahane / S Raina / A Rayudu 5. MS Dhoni 6. Jadeja 7. Ashwin 8. H Singh 9. Z Khan 10. U Yadav 11. B Kumar / M Shami / I Sharma / S Binny

    You dont want 8 Batsmen to won a match. You have batting line up up to Ashwin & Bajji can bat a bit too. You will have the experience of Zaheer and Harbajan + Ashwin, Jadeja & One more pace bowler...

    This will be a balanced team...what you think guys...

  • Srivathsan_Sridharan on January 29, 2014, 7:19 GMT

    Part-2: No batsman's place is assured for the next year's WC except Kohli and Dhoni. We can try a new set of batsmen like Zol, Aparajit etc. Enough chances given for Rohit. Still think Dhawan can be given some chances. Dinesh Karthik should be tried. Pujara must be in ODI team. My group of batsmen to be tried and tested through out the next year: Dhawan, Dinesh Kartik, Pujara, Vijay Zol, Baba Aparajit along with Kohli, Dhoni, Rahane.

  • Srivathsan_Sridharan on January 29, 2014, 7:14 GMT

    The title defence in the WC next year will be a hard job far India. It looks very gloomy for us from here on. We don't have any fast bowlers who can atleast control the flow of runs forget taking wicket. The spinners won't be able to do the job in Aus & NZ in the world cup as the pitch won't assist them. Batsmen looking clueless even against NZ bowlers with the exception of Virat Kohli and Dhoni and to some extent Jadeja. Don't know how they can manage against SA, Aus, Pak & Eng bowlers. I think we don't have enough fast bowling stock in our country to try and groom in about a year's time. We will have to improve the performance of the current crop and can maximum add one or two to the core group. Zaheer's experience will be the key. He should take care of our new bowlers. My set of fast bowlers would be B.Kumar, Shami, Varun Aaron, Umesh yadav, Z.Khan. For god's sake forget Ishant Sharma for the next 10 years. Part-1

  • productivity on January 29, 2014, 6:44 GMT

    The Biggest Joke of cricket " That INDIA has bowlers outside India" ......................

  • dganger on January 29, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    And for many who thinks Zaheer Khan will make difference to the team, pls get out of this illusion. He cant. He has passed his prime long time back, even when he was in its prime he used to bleed runs too. He was never a force, its a perfect example of glorifying a decent resource into something great since we dont have any one. Zaheer has been criticised many a times by commentators and players for not bowling with enough zeal and enthusiasm. When he did occasionally he got results. look at his average and strike rate, no way he is near to any greats of fast bowling. So stop romanticizing bout him, its absolutely imperative that instead India should groom Umesh Yadav and Varun Aatron, but with Dhoni as captain, I doubt how much it is possible. He is just wasting this players by not giving enough chances, and most importantly enough confidence.

  • espncricdiehrtfan on January 29, 2014, 6:35 GMT

    i dont believe this a thinking of world champion captian,, if anyone have little sense of cricket even who can understd cric, its simple if sipiners wil nt give brekthrough in middle over bet 10 to 40 whoever wil bowl in slog overs wil be punish, if aswin nd jadeja wil bowl starting nd last ten over i m sure they wil punish badly, bcz of selfish bowling of jadeja nd aswin fast bowlers are victim of them. Dhoni is try to hide weknes of his spin dept bcz they r playing with same csk. Dhhoni should not give permenent licience of both aswin nd jadeja for world cup, is very harmful for defend championship.

  • dganger on January 29, 2014, 6:25 GMT

    Dhoni its high time that u should also clear few things straight. For the last 2 years ur bowlers getting slaughtered all over the world. What annoying is that u kept on playing same old bunch of mediocre medium pacers, hardly any thought process from your part as well. On what parametres you have have given out and out failures like Ishant sharma such extended run?? Have u ever tried of grooming two genuine talented pacer Varun Aron and Umesh Yadav instead? Even if they manage to get one or 2 matches u will make sure with your strange thinking that they wont get to bowl their quota of 10 overs. Is anything worse can happen? At max they will also concede 320 + runs , but have u tried? Suddenly u will throw this bowlers to play one or 2 matches, they will get hammered and u will b like "I told u so".....Pls get rid of the mediocre medium pacers, who will be mediocre, no matter what u do for the rest of their life.Groom Aaron and Umesh Yadav, this guys r talent, groom them pls.

  • on January 29, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Forget about the Sharmas and the Kumars! Look at Dhoni's stats as captain outside of India since 2011 in both ODIs and tests. If you consider bi-lateral series alone his record as captain is 0-9 in tests and 3-15 with 2 ties in ODIs. And yet I cannot think of any other captain in World Cricket who is more secure of his job! Thanks to the Chennai coterie !!

  • anver777 on January 29, 2014, 6:23 GMT

    Ind need caliber of Kapil Dev, Chetan Sharma, Srinath, V.Prasad who cemented their places & played regularly for Ind.... same Dhoni said before the NZ that "now Ind is well settled team for away games" What Happen MSD ??

  • rezmata on January 29, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    What a cry baby!! As captain MSD has to educate his bowlers what the strategy is. True you cant set a feild for bad bowling, atleast let the bowler know wher he has to target. MSD is elaborating what a bad captain he is in handleing the team.

  • Rahul_78 on January 29, 2014, 5:55 GMT

    Captain lacking faith in his resources is never a good sign. Loosing 7 consecutive ODIs has started to show its strain on the captain cool. MSD has clearly came across as a defensive captain recently. Asking his spinners who are his best bait to be economical then attacking. He fears in the quest of wickets spinners will be leaking runs while his fast bowlers have clearly failed to stem the runs as well as taking wickets. What MSD needs to understand is teams are attacking the fast bowlers early and then settling down in the middle overs and then going rampant again in the slog overs by keeping 6-7 wickets in hand. With lack of wickets in 35 overs India inevitably con-sides the 300+ total if bowling 1st or even the total of 300+ put on by their batsmen are not enough to defend. MSD needs to bite the bullet and ask his bowlers to go for the wickets and forget about being economical with defensive field placements. Ashwin, Jadeja and may be Zaheer are the ones who need to take the onus.

  • AjitDJ on January 29, 2014, 5:51 GMT

    Dhoni: Our bowlers will have to start using their brains more

    Bowlers: We also think the same about you, captain!

  • Gozunder on January 29, 2014, 5:48 GMT

    India's fast bowlers are a pack of jokers. I wonder what Joe Dawes is doing with this lot. If he can't groom them, and help them recognize their potential, and convert that to performance, it's time for BCCI to look at someone else to fill that role. As of what I'm seeing, the short ball is being used against the Indian batsmen by opposition teams judiciously, but the Indian fast bowlers are not bowling to their strength, which is pitching up and getting movement. The team needs a more experienced bowling coach, who can groom these youngsters and help India defend their title at WC 2015

  • on January 29, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    No doubt shikhar is having problems playing short balls. But I want to know where is Robin Uthappa. Is he not scoring to be part of this Indian Team. We should have reserve openers while playing in foreign conditions. Selectors what r u doing. Every time Dhoni and Virat cannot save u the matches.

    Fast bowlers bowling at good pace but where is the line and length. Why r the becoming predictable by bowling the same length and getting punished. They are trying to bowl Yorker good but they didn't tried round the wicket option.

    This is a team game. Strategy matters the most. Buck boys not much time left

  • AltafPatel on January 29, 2014, 5:42 GMT

    India need to hire bowling coach like McGrath or Ambrose etc.

  • RDBX on January 29, 2014, 5:34 GMT

    Some of you guys comment like you could have done something better than MSD has, but first you guys need to understand that once a bowler is playing an international cricket, he must be able to bowl 6 balls at same spot unless of course batsman is trying to improvise & change needs to be made in line & length. Also a captain can only set the fields & ask the bowlers to hit a spot but at the end its bowlers duty to do what his captain is asking. SHAME THAT NONE OF THESE BOWLERS ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO EXECUTE THE PLANS THAT ARE BEING SET FOR THEM. Some of you guys wanted Varun in the team, well he is in the team what has he done in 2 games? Some of you said spinners can't bowl well in NZ, well spinners were the only bowlers who actually contained the batsmen. Put yourself in MSD's shoes & then comment guys, HE IS THE CAPTAIN WHO WON YOU T20 world cup, ODI World cup, he took your team to No 1 in all formats at least once so he can't be that bad.

    We need good bowlers, that's the bottom line

  • on January 29, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    I doubt if India will ever produce a decent fast bowler under Dhoni's captaincy because he is just not a bowler's captain. Like he himself says, the talent is there but they dont have the right guidance neither in the form of an attacking captain nor a bowling leader. Plus on overseas tours, you definitely need a bowling leade. Bring ZAK back with Bhuvi and Shami. Good trio with variety and Zak can always share his experiences and lead the bowling like he has done so well. I dont hate Dhoni personally but this is what happens when monopoly exists. Any other Captain, Including the greats Imran, Clive, even Kapil was dropped months after winning the world cup. God only knows how Dhoni can be given such a long rope as captain despite his pathetic record. And please please do not say we dont have a choice

  • crazytaurean on January 29, 2014, 4:13 GMT

    I believe Zak should have been on this tour. A 50% fit Zak is a more crafty bowler than the present lot. Dhoni needs a death bowler, maybe a death bowling allrounder would be great. The IPL throws some names like Rajat Bhatia. Binny could be an answer too if he improves his bowling. Ishwar Pandey should get a game. Sad to see Varun Aaron bowling so poorly.

  • cric_gates on January 29, 2014, 4:07 GMT

    Hello everyone!! Zaheer Zaheer Zaheer zaheer..we want Zaheer... some days back zaheer said "he still have two years left in him as a bowler"...and he rightly said...the problem with India is India is dying to have a genuine fast quick bowler who can take wicket.They have in Shami, Yadav, Aaron and some bunch of medium pacers like Bhuvi, Ishant, Vinay, Mohit etc. True these bowler can take wickets but cannot control the flow of runs and lets forget about their act in death overs as we have seen them in past two years. Not a single bowler among these can be pointed out to be a bowler for a Death overs. Zaheer is by far a better bowler than these and India should utilize Zaheer last two years in team with these bowler to guide.Where is Munaf?? Bhajji is far better bowler than Aswin in oversees????Aswin is getting pathetic.

  • on January 29, 2014, 3:56 GMT

    Surprising,, Shami was most expensive bowler yesterday. This comments from MSD means as a caption he does not know what kind of talent pool is there in country. Ashwin is playing more as batsman than bowler. Not a single delivery bowled by him is turning, which means on these tracks he is useless. If MSD knew he dont have good bowlers then why he chose Ishant?? Why Mishra is just a 12th man in every match?? Why Umesh, Mishra are just visitors?? This means Dhoni does not know what are the strengths of his bowlers and he cant set field for that

  • RaviNarla on January 29, 2014, 3:51 GMT

    When someone plays at this level they are expected to compete and apply some thought. In ODI's all you need to do is religiously follow one rule. Cramp the batsman for room. If they make their own follow them. At international level one is expected to do this at the least. If you can't bowl six consecutive balls on the good length spot go away. This is international cricket. NZ bowlers Southee and Mills bowled a great line and length. They were not express. All they did was cramped the batsman for room. In fact Mills kept the runs scoring in check when Dhoni and Jadeja were blazing. Overseas pitches favor fast bowling. In here spinners are bowling better than pacers. Bhuvi and Shami need more practice. THey should practice hitting a circle of 1 foot diameter in the good length area on off stump. They should master that. It is for every Indian bowler. Until then the search for the fast bowler will continue...

  • DWall_fan on January 29, 2014, 3:47 GMT

    In New Zealand bowlers are not suppose to concede more than 45 runs off their quota... With new ball, they should have taken the head off New Zealand openers, should have bowled 2-3 maidens, and should have taken 2-3 wickets in power-play on an average. But Indian bowlers give 6 runs in an over even after taking wickets.. Yes there is inexperience but that doesn't mean it will haunt you in each and every match. I think India is the only team capable of giving 60-70 runs on seeming wickets. MSD can set field positions but its the bowlers job to for kill and aim for off stump and lbw's. I think in 4 matches we had just 4-5 lbw in 1st powerplay, which is a sign of how mediocre our bowling is. All bowlers are 1 dimesional. One bowls line and length but cannot bowl in slog overs.. The other two bowl at 140 kmph but they just don't see the top of off stump. More important its a bowlers job to get wickets but some people think that its MSD's job to provide wickets.. How shameful !!

  • contact_mohit3 on January 29, 2014, 3:37 GMT

    India is struggling with fast bowling since beginning and before Dhoni came into cricket but at that time, out batting was strong enough to compensate the extra runs given by fast bowler but now, it is not happening and Dhoni is not speaking about it instead just carrying the burden of Raina. Jadeja himself played well only in last 2 games. If he complaints that bowler dont try any variation while bowling then why he don't guide them during the match infect he is the captain. Moreover, in last game, he opted Virat for open the inning which was disguising when you have Rahane, regular opener in the team. So Dhoni shall use his mind instead of blame game. Surely, fast bowler have to learn a lot to deliver but other things has also to be taken care of.

  • on January 29, 2014, 3:26 GMT

    our strength has been batting, always. Everyone knows it. We would take pride in chasing whatever opposition set us. We would have a genuine batsman playing at #7. Opener would play freely, believing if they fail there is someone behind who can hold the fort & then he would be followed by someone who can explode. Not right now. We were falling behind by 15-20 runs because we did not had enough fire power in batting. We would play with 5 batters+WK, that would put extra pressure on openers to perform because if they lose wicket, we are lighter in batting. So what our cool captain did, make the batting more lighter, removed one more batter from it and boom..... Other teams now know your tactics and you play right in their hands. Your tactics are stale and boring Dhoni. NZ played better cricket and they deserved to win but does that stopped us from putting our best team on the park & competing? I am glad we are not #1 in ranking, but not happy we are #2. We do not deserve to be even #8

  • BallparkFrank on January 29, 2014, 3:20 GMT

    Ya should not have hanged Ajmal Qasab. He was your best fast bowling import option. If he did not perform, ya always had the option of hanging the noose over his head. I betcha he won't have let you down. Show him the noose he wouda shown ya his nous for wickets. Now you hanging your own head out of despair!!!

  • ChannuKapoor on January 29, 2014, 3:11 GMT

    At Least we know before the storm (i.e. Beofre the World Cup), the onus is now on Selectors & BCCI to respond. This is the ultimate thing what Indian Fans want rather than they (Fans) are not intersted in how much of a Pie BCCI is getting from ICC. SO BCCI please be proactive & select good breed of fast bowlers.

  • nikkyrainy on January 29, 2014, 3:01 GMT

    Moreover its learning experience for our fast bowlers because, india failed as a team to produce good partnerships and good spells. Even tough decisions lead in devious path.

  • TrueIndian4ever on January 29, 2014, 2:55 GMT

    How about we hire bowlers from Pakistan, they have plenty of talent but no place to prove it.

  • DCricket on January 29, 2014, 2:50 GMT

    Just at the start of the series MSD said that he was happy with the young bowler's performance and just after 4 games he is not sure. I think the degradation in performance is due to some politics going with in the team. I think its time for dhoni to quit as a captain. He is out of ideas and luck now. He should be asked to retain his place in the team just on basis of his keeping and batting.

  • Equanimous on January 29, 2014, 2:43 GMT

    It seems dhoni has his favorites. This is bad news for India. Numbers don't lie. If you compare ashwin and shami's contribution over the last few matches with the ball it will tell a different story . Yet dhoni thinks if ashwin doesn't get injured he will play the World Cup,:)

  • on January 29, 2014, 2:43 GMT

    How can Dhoni be sure of his fast bowling choices when he destroy career of fast bowlers like Irfan?

  • sukhdeep87 on January 29, 2014, 2:37 GMT

    if indian team want to compete on 2015 world cup they have to change their selection policy now and ithink

    gautam,pujara,virat,rohit,yuvi,dhoni,irfan,jadeja,bhaji,zaheer and shami wil lbe in ist choice 11. plus ashwin,bhuvi,yadav,raina and dinesh karthik should be back up

    one more thing i still think bhajji is best spin bowler india have in limited overs because i he not pick up up wickets but never leak runs and with just four fielders out side the circle after powerplays his slog hiting is also usful.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 29, 2014, 2:19 GMT

    You would have to be blind Fredy not to know India has massive medium pace to fast bowling problems, but with the world cup in mind, I find it interesting that the Indian batsmen never attacked McCullum (Nathan) in the middle overs, he has bowled 36 overs this series for 177 runs @4.91 compared to Ashwin 37 overs for 187 @5.05 and Jadega 38 overs for 188 @5.22... is he a better run drying option than the Indians who are looking for wickets ? maybe for the world cup India should open with spinners and bring the ineffective medium pacers on during the middle overs when teams are looking for singles and twos.

  • krishpsg on January 29, 2014, 2:17 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni, 1, why Aswin came ahead of Binney? 2, Why he did not bowl more than one over? 3, After watching your bowler for 5 overs, did you tell them where to bowl? 4, aren't they even capable of listening to you and change themselves? 5, what is being discussed at team meetings? Did your coach tell the bowlers what they did? Did they see their bowling in videos? Did they understand where and when They made mistakes?

  • on January 29, 2014, 2:10 GMT

    "We know the spinners and they look good and we know they are the ones who will carry on until the World Cup provided there are no injuries."

    He has effectively shut the door on Amit Mishra! Sad! Not given enough opportunities to perform.

  • on January 29, 2014, 2:09 GMT

    How is India ranked #2 in Tests with 0 win out of 10 overseas tests and 9 loses and ranked #2 (recently #1) in ODI with 0 win out 6 overseas ODI.

  • lillee4PM on January 29, 2014, 2:07 GMT

    More excuses from cricket's highest paid player. Wonder where he stands on BCCI's planned changes to the way the sport is controlled?

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 29, 2014, 2:06 GMT

    Good to see the squad change for this ODI. In hindsight perhaps having Amit Mishra in the playing 11 instead of Stuart Binny might have been more helpful on this particular track. In the last match, I think Ishwar Pandey and maybe Amit Mishra need to get a look in so that we can get an idea if they fit into the WC 2015 plans at all as bowling options. It is a toss-up between who from Rahane, Rayudu and Dhawan should be selected. Rayudu probably does deserve another chance although between Rahane and Dhawan the choice is not so clear. Rahane is averaging ~12 as compared to Dhawan's ~24 so perhaps Rahane should sit this one out although both are not playing confidently and need to show more composure and patience. Kohli should go back to no. 3. The first 10 overs of the Indian batting are letting them down although the NZ bowlers have also been very good at the start. Rohit has enjoyed some luck and is slowly gaining some confidence especially after the first few overs are done.

  • YesKayR on January 29, 2014, 2:05 GMT

    what is MRF pace foundation doing.. what are our bowling coaches doing.. what is our physio doing.. if a new fast bowler comes and bowls at 140 kmph.. one can be rest assured that he slips down to 130 kmph in a couple of years.. goes thru a lot of injuries. A common man can understand and realize the fact that our bowlers have no control even when delivering at 130 kmph, no variations, no slower ones, no Yorkers,.. etc etc.. what has the bowling coach been doing? I know he is partly to be blamed only.. main initiative has to come from the bowler himself.. we may blame the captain for carrying on with Ishant, but what choice does he have. 'Yeh nahi to Wo sahi, wo nahi to doosara sahi.. is what captain may be thinking.. and don't forget our fast bowlers can hardly hold the bat.. Imagine Veron Philander is not even considered an all rounder.. every one knows how well he can bat..

  • on January 29, 2014, 2:00 GMT

    There have been a string of top ranked sides who have come here and got annihilated by NZ starting from Clive Lloyd's legendary team. In home conditions NZ are very strong. The only sides that get on top of them here is England, Australia and South Africa. Of the Asia teams Pakistan is almost even with NZ but the rest are no match. Yesterday the fast bowlers were abysmal,no consistency or variation in length,pace or rhythm what so ever. The fast bowlers didnt have their thinking caps on even after seeing the Kiwis bowl, they did not learn. They need to slow the pace which they failed to do, look at Mills and Southee who bowl only at around 130 kph. Varun Arron did not vary his pace. Trying to repeatedly bowl fast and short has only one outcome. If Umesh Yadav is in the squad he should be given a try. We know apart from Shami and Bhuvi no one is a certainty. Do not bring back Ishant; Zaheer is in the test squad- he uses his top 2 inches and is worth a try.Big mistake-Kohli opening.

  • YesKayR on January 29, 2014, 1:58 GMT

    It is as if he realized that the fast bowlers are no good,only yesterday. being a wkt keeper, he can see so clearly the width they offer, lack of variation and another million things, which has been happening for years. Batting always used to cover the short comings in bowling. Team India suffer when our batting flops. the white washes in Eng & Aus are clear examples. When we were doing well for a phase - we won tests in NZ, SA, WI.. still our bowling was weak. A good captain, coach and strategy makers have to identify this even when the going is good and rectify that. Nothing was done. we just basked in glory. Once the batting started to flop, the weakness in bowling has got projected more, resulting in a doubled/ multiplied problem. Situation now is bowlers sitting in the bench or laid off due to injury looks better than the ones actually playing !!!!!!!!! Then it is a musical chair or musical bench.. game.

  • on January 29, 2014, 1:55 GMT

    Kiwis lead India 3-0 and should be going for a whitewash but umpire robbed Kiwis of a sure win on 4th ODI. Bangladesh have Banglawashed Kiwis 7-0..India have also lost 8 of their last 9 away test matches...I guess it is time for ICC to relegate India

  • on January 29, 2014, 1:55 GMT

    Mr Dhoni, now don't blame your pacers for the ODI Series loss in Newzealand only since you also played a vital role in team selection. I cannot understand when their batsman can score near around 300 runs in every match, then why our batsman are failing to score a competitive total around or more than 300 runs on the same track, here the blame goes to your batters too.It's now high time to total revamping of your team, there is no place for Ishant Sharma and Ravichandran Ashwin in your team, better try to find out some alternate faces and saying that you are not sure about your pacers, the responsibility for ODI loss cannot spared from your shoulder, since you are also a part and parcel for this debacle and continuous for the 2nd ODI Series loss in foreign soil. You should be ashamed off about this, since you are the captain of the team.

  • freakyvj on January 29, 2014, 1:55 GMT

    I think when you are handed over the Indian Cap you are assumed to absorb the pressure that comes within. Internal advices might have gone farfetched to these bowlers that they need media exposure to be on the groove. It could just be another tactics to fuel (if at all that exists!!) the fire in the belly to perform. Bowling an offstump line is defintely not asking for too much at this level. You are not expected to get carried away by the movement in the air and the bounce that the pitch offer outside the subcontinent. I used to get irritated when Agarkar bowl 5 good deliveries and end with a freebie to put himself under pressure. Now the quality has gone even worse. I am wondering why Bhuvi is not relying on seam bowling but trying to hit the deck hard.

  • VSC011 on January 29, 2014, 1:43 GMT

    Mr.Dhoni, dont blame our fast bowlers. be honest about your contribution in our team. if the conditions are batting friendly whether in Indian subcontinent or Foreign condition, our batsmen do well but whenever bowling friendly pitches are prepared our all superstar batsmen have failed except Virat, Pujara. its your responsibility to resign as a captain bcz you are just not playing inspiring cricket, somehow you managed to score fifties to avoid criticism in series but if those were indian pitches you could have easily won matches for team. If we have to win at overseas we need a captain who can lead from the front by performing in all conditions. Kohli is the best person for this job who is playing too good in all formats and in all conditions.

  • on January 29, 2014, 1:33 GMT

    Rohit is playing better and better by match after match. 3, 20, 39 & today 79. But still nobody is praising Rohit. Unexperienced bowling is the major reason of India's defeat. Even today our bowler's just couldn't defend 280 runs. Why anybody not saying about failure of dhawan & Rahane. In last ODIs they failed. This is young Indian team. We have to give them sufficient time. Kumar 20+ matches, Aron 7 matches, sami 24 matches… only…. Please support our inexperience bowlers…

  • DaredevilsUnlimited on January 29, 2014, 1:18 GMT

    MSD u r proving that u r a glorified Ajit Wadekar who had loads of luck to get the title of of being the first captain to win overseas tour of WI and England then he also was a very good slip fielder like u in wk .He was also a decent bat like u but after the 42 runs India scored of which Sunil was part of that, the huge bat at Indore was vandalized. Though nothing like this happened to you after 0-4 successive defeats in England and Aus and getting beaten in India by England u still was retained as captain. For heaven sake do not blame only the fast bowlers only u r also to be equally blamed for wrong selection and bowling changes and field placements. U are good in giving complicated post match interviews/confernces. Try to own resposibility for the all loses just like how u win kudos .

  • Fullcover on January 29, 2014, 1:18 GMT

    There is a passenger by name Joe Dawes that's traveling with this team, can he please stand up?

  • on January 29, 2014, 1:16 GMT

    While Dhoni is enjoying some gifted batsmen of current era, he is not blessed with good bowlers. No one has replaced Kumble or even Harbhajan...

  • on January 29, 2014, 1:03 GMT

    Bring Back Zak,Nehra,Sreesanth,Munaf Patel,RP Singh.Irfnan Pathan... These are the Best Choices for Bowlers

  • Prakmca on January 29, 2014, 0:57 GMT

    'Not sure of our fast-bowling choices' - Dhoni????????????????

    What is your choice Mr. Dhoni??? Giving chance again and again to one of the worst bowler (ISHANT) chance???? Having 2 spinners in the team??? Spinners has to take wicket, which is not happening now... Instead of taking wicket, they making the batsman to settle (though they give away less runs when compared to fast bowlers)....and they attack all the other bowlers. Jadeja had hit 2 50s, that does not mean he is an ALLROUNDER, he is just an ordinary bowler....

    Next coming to Gambhir, he is one of finest opener, who scores at brisk rate... WHY he is not your choice???? Yuvraj can bowl better than Jadeja/Ashwin and when it comes to form, he is one of the dangerous batsman in the world cricket. If he gets chance like Jadeja/Ashwin/Raine, definitely he will come good. No Support for him as Jadeja/Ashwin/Raine have??? WHY???

  • on January 29, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    What is the bowling coach doing? Just collecting his contractual fees, and chatting with the fielding coach about stories from back home? The same is the case with the fielding coach. Most of the Indian players are good fielders. Look at Yuvi earlier and Raina now. They were naturally good. After a coach (who seems to be just preoccupied by throw in duty during training) the quality of fielding declined.

    BOWLING: Zaheer Khan can make a decent bowling coach. He has and uses his brain. And there will not be a language problem either.

    FIELDING: Does'n need a coach. Just observe good fielders and learn. As far as field positioning, Duncan should help the whole team. Dhoni "looks" bad in that area, only because the bowlers don't bowl to the field.

  • on January 29, 2014, 0:55 GMT

    I would like to know why Stuart Binny was playing. He bowled one over and didn't bat. The average speed in his over was less than 118km. Basically bowling fast Off Break. The man is not good enough to play a club level matches oversees. What a waste, Ranna or Shekhar would have been much better choice. Seems like too many selectors from Maharashtra and Karnataka favouring their region and going back in time when India was not a even mediocre team.

  • dinuhebbar on January 29, 2014, 0:44 GMT

    Definitely MSD knows which 2 spinners are going with him 2 next world cup.... as both belong to CSK. Funny thing is except both are shining more in batting rather than in bowling specifically RA.

  • on January 29, 2014, 0:25 GMT

    Please do admit guys.. All cricket teams are like dogs..Barks strongly at homes else just wag the tails and look for excuses.. No exception to India or NZ... Indians make flat tracks at home and KIWIS ARE MAKING FAST/ MOVING TRACKS..We are just watching and looking for excuses..

  • on January 29, 2014, 0:24 GMT

    If we gans say we are not sure of the bowling options then I think it makes sense. But Mr.Dhoni who stays with them during practice and matches should be having a good understanding of his resources and should have planned according to his resources the field and options in the field. Being bold and giving stupid reasons are two different streams. Should have corrected the mistakes when SA team mentioned poor bowling resources for India and won the series comfortably. Too little too late.

  • Alexk400 on January 29, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    When you keep picking midget bowlers or vegetarian bowlers , this is what happens. You need better bone structure to bowl fast. Out of 1 billion we can't find 1 bowler , it seems like TPTB ignore 80% of population when selecting the players.

  • cardassian on January 28, 2014, 23:05 GMT

    Some selection issues for team India. Also some problems with the pace bowling unit. None of the Indian pace bowlers seem to know what they should be doing. While this is partially Dhoni's fault as captain, it is also Fletcher's fault as coach. Indian spinners bowled very well but need to pick up wickets as well as restricting runs. Pace bowlers need to learn to out think opposition batsmen and use subtle variations to get results. Slower balls, short balls, slow bouncers, off cutters etc... can be used to make life difficult for opposition batsmen. Hitting the right line and length consistently would be a help as well. Hopefully we see growth in these young players. Fan of the game from NZ.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 28, 2014, 23:04 GMT

    We will never get good pace bowlers if our Selectors keep selecting the same mediocre Ishant Sharma, Mohit Sharma, Unadkat, and Vinay Kumar. We have pace bowlers with much better averages playing in the Ranji Trophy. Why don't our Selectors select those bowlers. Samad Fallah is much better than Unadkat, Rishi Dhawan is much better than Binny, Pankaj Singh and Anureet Singh are much better than those 2 Sharmas - Ishant and Mohit.

  • subbass on January 28, 2014, 22:20 GMT

    What happened to Yadav ? He looked pretty good, is he injured now ? Bit yes, you can not go to a WC in Australia without some decent fast bowlers, as England have just found out, fast mediums are not much good as strike bowlers, good ones can contain the opposition though. But spin bowling in Australia is not much good, so India desperately need to find a quality fast bowler.

  • MasterClass on January 28, 2014, 22:14 GMT

    @reb1 - So the others teams should fee right at home in India since that's what happens (cricket chirping and a few solitary supportes) when they play at home to empty stadiums (when not hosting India). Cheers!

  • MasterClass on January 28, 2014, 22:06 GMT

    Frankly it is India's fielding and Field Placement that is the culprit. Not just this match but every match. Boundaries going between legs, allowing singles even when in the circle, poor placement of fine leg or third man, reactive rather than proactive field changes, not applying pressure with fielding when you know that you have small total to defend. The bowlers can only do so much. And India don't have a Wasim or Waqar type bowler so we need to work with what is there. Yes, the bowlers were not up to the mark but captaincy should have been better. Very disappointing!

  • rahulkb on January 28, 2014, 22:01 GMT

    @Humdingers. You are absolutely right. Fletcher is so invisible that no body even realizes that he is the head coach which helps him evade criticism. Really missing Kirsten who did wonders for India..We need someone like him..May be India should get Warney as coach. He seemed good for Rajasthan in IPL.

  • spinkingKK on January 28, 2014, 21:56 GMT

    Continuing on from my previous command. India can't expect to win an ODI against the likes of NZ and Australia with a score of 270 odd runs. 79 off 94 balls by an opener and 37 off 56 balls are not your ideal batting performances in the ODI's. I am not saying those batsmen were the reason why India lost. But, it shows that it was hard work for the Indian batsmen and without the above mentioned scores, it could have been even worse. That is where India lost the match. They were never going to be able to defend that kind of totals.

  • rahulkb on January 28, 2014, 21:51 GMT

    I might be too harsh but seeing one over, I feel Binny shudnt play because he is too slow and looks unfit. Sadly as usual, politics made its way otherwise Rishi Dhawan would have been in NZ for Binny. I think he bowls at least @125-130.

    Bowling @ 115-119 does not make one a pace bowling allrounder. Even Dhoni bowls 120-125 k's. I think Binny should be dropped and Dhoni can bowl in his place with Rayudu as keeper if needed.Ishwar Pandey/Raina/Dhawan should get in next game for Binny.

    Mishra should come in for Ashwin. Lost the series so why not give Mishra a go? He is a better bowler than ashwin and also bats a bit but I feel dhoni will never put him in Ash's place. Ojha (who was inexplicably left out), Mishra, Rasool, and Jalaj Saxena should be the spin options.

  • spinkingKK on January 28, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    I haven't seen the match. But, from what Dhoni saying, it sounds like the same old captaincy- Let the batsmen hit boundaries and you just keep persisting with the same fast bowlers who are giving away those runs. Even if both batsmen are nearing their centuries, there will be no efforts to create any pressure for those batsmen.There is no point in holding back your best bowlers if it is not going to help. He could have finished off the spells from his best bowlers and hoped that the pressure created by them could bring in more wickets.

  • bijuphilip on January 28, 2014, 21:34 GMT

    First of all dhoni has done with his idea,we need a new captain,positive like gambiror kholi. Our opening pair should be able to get run a ball,rohit can't play test in odi matches.he is not a good opener,he might be good to finish it off or after 40 over he might be good. we need gambir/ordavan2pujara3vzol4sanjuvsamson5aswin6jadeja7dhoni8rohit 9bkumar.10shami11rishidawan12 ambatirayidu13.binny14abisheknair15varun16gambir/davan

  • 30-30-150 on January 28, 2014, 21:27 GMT

    Dhoni's tactics make no sense these days. NZ were 95/2 after 20 overs when the spinners were all over the batsmen. The game was lost in the next 10 overs (20-29) as Dhoni removed both Ashwin and Jadeja from the attack, and went on to use five different bowlers. Binny got just the one over, while Rayudu, who is an out-of-sorts part-timer, bowled three. What's the point in using a part-timer during that crucial phase of play when you have six frontline bowlers? He has got lucky in the past with such defensive tactics but everyday is not a Sunday, is it? Dhoni has to learn to shuffle his bowling options instead of complaining about lack of quality bowlers.

  • rahulkb on January 28, 2014, 21:27 GMT

    Oh, what happened to Dhoni's tongue when Ishant was feeding his freebies for years?? Now, Shami (inexperienced) and Aaron (coming off a 2 yr break) bowled bad in 2 games and he is suddenly getting vocal?? He is not wrong, it is true that both bowled short and wide but this special treatment to Ishant is not doing any good. Did he criticize Ishant like this after his famous over against Faulkner?? I am not sure. They should get more chances and heed Dhoni's advice/warning to get some control in their bowling. Aaron was upto 146 k's in this game from 130s in first game which means he is getting in tune and may get to 150s. Now if he can show sense and get rid of long hops and bowl yorkers a lot more (he bowld just one against McCullum which was good) ...

    Both will be effective if they get accurate.For that, India must get a new bowling coach who will encourage bowlers to be aggressive and accurate (may be someone like Wasim, McGrath etc). Look what happend to SL after getting Vaas in.

  • on January 28, 2014, 21:26 GMT

    I agreed with Dhoni. Pace bowling must be giving pressure on oppositions. It's a long time problem for India.

  • on January 28, 2014, 21:25 GMT

    why on the field dhoni himself didn't go to his bowlers and ask him not to bowl these kind of deliveries. Few days ago, he said "he cant spoon-feed his bowlers and then said they are all new to international cricket". Dhoni is a captain and it is his duty to be proactive on the field and talk his bowlers about the right kind of line & length. I have seen captains like Mahela, Clarke & Cook talking to their bowlers advising them where to bowl..

  • Foxymoron on January 28, 2014, 21:23 GMT

    India should just play spinners only and use their influence to get the pitches to be shocking turners. Problem solved.

  • geebee3 on January 28, 2014, 21:06 GMT

    MS should take the full blame for this ODI loss and stop blaming the bowlers who, I thought, did quite well. He did not play his most attacking opener (Dhawan), moved Kohli from his very successful spot, left out Raina and Dhawan, persisted with the failure Rahane and persisted with his failure bowler Ashwin. What did he expect---that Kohli would do a Tendulkar and smash the bowlers from the word go as Tendulkar did when he opened for the first time in place of Sidhu (in New Zealand). Leave the bowlers out as excuses and accept poor captaincy decisions would serve MS better.

  • Alexk400 on January 28, 2014, 21:03 GMT

    This is nothing new. he never blame players under his protection umbrella. he never blamed ishant sharma once even after he gave up so many runs. Bhuvi and Shami are good bowlers. They are the best we got. India will never produce wasim any 150kmph bowler who can bowl near that on average. Short bowler bowling at the speed is useless because he maxed out already , its downhill from there. Ex: Tait. We need Tall bowler with brain and cunningness and 145kmp average speed. Even 140 is ok as long as he is smart bowler. Blaming decent bowlers like bhuvi and shami shows cricket under dhoni is run by favouritism. If his favourite bowler screwed up he will say we were 50 runs short. Its pathetic.

  • gomsi20 on January 28, 2014, 20:52 GMT

    I remember when Ishant started his international matches, he was under Venkatesh Prasad. He was bowling with pace and showed lot of intent and character. This does prove that a good fast bowling coach is needed or there is no way India going to defend WC15. Get Venkatesh in again or talk to Kapil Dev.

  • DeepThinking on January 28, 2014, 20:21 GMT

    Each Indian fast bowlers as a grown up individuals should have common sense, adaptability and aggression on their bowling. Captain can only support and give field settings but cannot swing his arm or put a mark on the pitch and ask his bowlers to pitch every single ball on that mark. Basic thing - why would you bowl short and wide...also we should change the bowling coach if any. Both in SA and in NZ the fast bowlers haven't come upto international standards. Also if MSD is going to keep Ashwin in the team he should use him wisely in the batting line up, send him to bat based on the situation. If the openers haven't scored much and fell cheaply, Ashwin should be sent in to play some decent shots to break the bowlers rhythm. or if the run rate is less in 30th over and a wicket falls, ashwin should be sent in. Also Ashwin can simply swing and come back to dressing room, he needs to understand that he has a task to do...

  • on January 28, 2014, 20:20 GMT

    I think Dhoni's worries are genuine. Even the spinners need to take a few wickets to put pressure on. Rohit made a half century after a long time thanks to some poor catching by NZ. We really need to train our fast bowlers and may be as a captain have definite plan as to what we want to achieve and how we want to achieve it. I think trying to get the wickets is the best strategy unless you have a huge total on the board. A defensive tactics can only delay the defeat. To win one needs to be aggressive and I did not see that in any games that I watched.

  • DeepThinking on January 28, 2014, 20:12 GMT

    Keeping aside MSD's captaincy for a minute, the fast bowlers are pathetic in their performance, no one had passion, aggression, thinking, seriousness, involvement etc.. they are bowled as if they have to complete bowling. So now we know that these guys cannot perform consistently, best bet is to replace Varun with Amit Mishra, Shamin & Bhuvi with Yuvaraj Singh & Zaheer Khan. Yuvi can bowel better than the current fast bowlers in the team and if we are lucky his batting will click. So bottom line is don't have more than one fast bowler. They need to understand that their position is not granted, they need to earn and keep in every single match. May be only in certain pitches we can have more than one fast bowler. These guys are in capable of learning i guess - they can look at the NZ bowlers and learn a bit. I don't know why MSD did not talk to his fast bowlers, may be there is internal fight or he knows these guys are not going to change...

  • srens on January 28, 2014, 20:10 GMT

    I dont understand why India fast bowlers dont try any variations at all. They are very predictable like sitting ducks. There are no slow balls, no change of angle or round the wicket, or holdong across the seam. Even lower ranked teams try all these things everytime. Even in this match New Zealand bowlers tried a lot of slow balls which made it difficult to score. What are the coach and captain doing in such strategies?

  • on January 28, 2014, 19:49 GMT

    MSD just showz he is not making right choices n change in the match to win it. just look at his statement spinners are doing well in containing but never understands this arguement cos SL/WI/PAK teams attack with spinners on bouncy/seaming tracks. MSD just dnt ve ny confidence in his pace bowling Bhuvi/Shami are nt that bad but both needs mentor plus experience in INTL game try ZK as leader of the pack n ull see good efforts from both bhuvi/shami. ZK is by far the best fast bowler india has produced other than him all were medium pacers. also irfan pathan / stuart binny should be in the radar of selection as they can provide balance to playing XI on bouncy/seaming conditions of WC2015 rather than playing defensive with two spinners n blaming fast bowlers who never said/looked like blowing opponents batting line all alone. MSD learn from SL captain n pacers they r not express but does well cos SL captain/team management trusts them

  • on January 28, 2014, 19:22 GMT

    He is giving bold statement for bowlers who are very new.. all three fast bowlers just played less than 20-30 matches while Ishant alone played double/triple matches but he never spoke why he is in the team ? same is true what other sharma is in team ? what about his own raina and ashwin. there are so many weak players but he never ever speak about them and now he is putting lot of pressure on new bowlers. I could not understand his logic.

  • on January 28, 2014, 19:10 GMT

    Drop Raina, play Rayudu PERMANENTLY! A sincere fan of the game from Pakistan.

  • Alexk400 on January 28, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Indian fast bowlers always gave lots of runs before. But batting was so strong to come out on top. Now batting is not up to that level , they are looking how to improve bowling. Bowling will never improve because good bowler with strong bone structure never get chance. Its fate of the nation.

  • sudhir98 on January 28, 2014, 19:06 GMT

    is binny in as a bowler then why only 1 over? is he in as a batsman then why was he slotted after ashwin? is he in as an allrounder then why didn't do neither bowling nor batting? it is like dhoni showing India fans his middle finger- he knows fans have been clamoring for rayudu, binny, pandey- anyone who can try harder. Dump raina let rayudu have an extended run and see if he belongs. hire some great ex international bowler to help mentor our bowlers- we have the raw materials already in place. Try something different dhoni, whats the worst that can happen? lose to new Zealand? too late for that. If we are losing with these players might as well lose without them.

  • on January 28, 2014, 19:04 GMT

    Keep dishing out the flattest track on the planet and India will see there already meager fast-bowling stocks diminishing in the future. Who would want to be come a fast bowler in India.

  • on January 28, 2014, 18:52 GMT

    Historically india struggled to find good genuine fast bowlers and that plays on the mind of captain too while taking decisions on the find and reflects in field placings too.

  • viru-319-219 on January 28, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    Dhoni is being unfair to his pacers here... Yes they didn't bowl well I agree but What have you done to counter that MR.CAPTAIN? You praise your spinners just for not giving away runs? What kind of mindset are you in? It is your defensive captaincy that has cost TEAM INDIA. Spinners are supposed to take wickets in middle overs and delay the slogging of opposition as late as possible instead our spinners and captain are happy to give away 40-50 runs without any wickets and later NZ batsmen start slogging from 35th over scoring another 50 extra runs so these extra runs belong to spinners and what does our captain do BLAME PACERS. What McCullum did was set aggressive fields stop singles, he always had two men back for pull asking his bowlers to attack and our CAPTAIN had no protection for short stuff, easy singles were always available and he did not back his bowlers to get wickets, all he wanted was to keep the runs down...So please CAPTAIN stop blaming pacers you are equally RESPONSIBLE

  • on January 28, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    What's he doing on the field when he says the bowlers are giving too much width..?? why can't he talk to the bowlers on the field and ask them to adjust the rhythm right there. This performance by the bowlers is not just their problem, its more or less Dhoni's. I don't think Shami or bhuvi are that bad, they can perform well with proper planning and mentoring. Zaheer used to do this when he's playing and it really helped ishant that time and he performed well during that time. All they need is proper mentoring both on and off the filed, its just lacking right now with team india bowlers. Dhoni has to change his tactics on the field and should be more reactive otherwise give the captaincy to Kohli.. Its high time to do either of these otherwise forget about WC

  • vizraj on January 28, 2014, 18:30 GMT

    I do not understand why Ishwar Pandey has been sideline from the selection even being the highest wicket taker for the past 5 ranji season. That chap really needs to be in the team before the WC2015. I am damn sure our current fast bowlers will bounce back and perform but we can not ignore the talent of Pandey, he should be given one chance to prove his talent.

  • RaviNarla on January 28, 2014, 18:28 GMT

    If Dhoni's worries are about fast bowling why cannot he consider another spin bowler. Spin is our strength. Amit Mishra warmed the benches and was let go. He is better bat than Varun or Shami.

  • prasanna_79 on January 28, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    I also don't know what Mr.Joe Dawes , our bowling coach is doing at all.. There is no positivity in our bowlers n they r just looking to contain always , which they miserably fail to do as well.., the pacers lack d aggression n attitude to do well.., they also lack in control & consistency.. what on earth is he doing with them.. , & how really can he help say an ashwin or a jadeja correct their bowling flaws is beyond my vision.. Why can't the team management also think about playing rohit in the middle order as he is a fine stroke player if d ball doesn't do much..?!! My team for 5th Odi : open with dhawan n rahane followed by kohli,rohit,rayudu,dhoni,jadeja,ashwin,bhuvi,shami (with d older ball), n pandey..

  • CricFanKrish on January 28, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    Agree with GlobalCricketLover. Dhoni should not be talking about selection matters. It is well known that he gave Ishant a long rope, but Ishant failed to perform. Come on ... Bhuvi, Shami and Aaron are all new comers. We should give them some more time. Remember Jadeja was written off not so long ago? He would neither bowl well nor bat well then. He turned around. I believe the bowlers can too. Also, these are not the liveliest of pitches. We could possibly try a three spinner strategy and rotate the medium pacers. Dhoni I think is running out of ideas and thinks that any country outside of the subcontinent will be dominated by pace.

  • LivingDead on January 28, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    So, people say Dhoni is too defensive. Let's see what attacking captains do in ODIs: 1. Have more men in catching positions: Needs tremendous discipline from fast bowlers. Can you name a single fast bowler with such control in Indian side?

    2. Have imaginative fields (like 7 men on off side, 3 slips and a gully etc): same issue as above.

    3. Try out new players: How do you know that the new players will perform well in overseas conditions? If not, then why not give more chances to current players rather than dropping them after a few games and destroying their confidence?

  • prasanna_79 on January 28, 2014, 18:04 GMT

    Dhoni by repeatedly speaking some negative things about bhuvi has ruined his confidence.. Remember his press conferences where he stated bhuvi lacks pace.., need to learn to bowl @ d death..etc.., these things may HV Been true to a certain extent.., but needs to be communicated only to him n not thru the media to d whole world.. After such comments from d captain a bowler's confidence definitely takes a hit.. A captain should never play blame games but instead take more responsibility for d defeats.. He should instill confidence n inspire the players but should never pull their legs in public..

  • on January 28, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    I am not sure why people are so stuck up with Indian Bowling. The last few ODI's not only blatantly prove that India can never win a World Cup on bouncy tracks but also NZ can never win a WC on subcontinent pitches since they haven't bowled anything else but short pitch, which won't work in the subcontienent. I don't know why the gurus here don't find it surprising that the 1st LBW of the tournament was in the 4th ODI and that too from an Indian quickie. NZ's bowling will come under radar when they play against Australia on these pitches since the short pitch ball will be totally out of the equation. After seeing the last 4 games I felt that the Indian bowlers were too mellow to the Kiwi batsmen in terms of their length. I was expecting deliveries into the rib cage or even aimed at the helmet, which they didn't bowl. Also, for the first 3 ODI's the games were pretty close and India were 15-20 runs short in the first 2. Not a huge win for the Kiwis after posting 290 + in each.

  • hp1011 on January 28, 2014, 17:56 GMT

    Respected Indian Team and Captain Dhoni,

    I am so totally disappointed with the bowling whereby they bowl to a 6-3 field and put the ball on the leg stump, why? Do you not have control on the line and length? What can a captain do when the bowler is not able to follow the most basic aspects of bowling? Why do they bowl wide outside the off stump instead of bowling to the 4th, 5th and the 6th stump outside the off stump? How bad is it that with three specialist fast bowlers, the captain has to opt for a batsman bowler (Ambati Raydu?). This is a shame for all of you that call yourselves fast bowlers of the Indian National Team…. Shape up or ship out. Stop denigrating your skill and country. Go back to the basics and learn the art for International level.

    Please show professionalism that you must!!!

    Indian Cricket Fan (billion plus - One voice same concern by most of us).

  • prasanna_79 on January 28, 2014, 17:48 GMT

    I really hope that the BCCI n d selectors read some of these comments n at least analyse them.. Dhoni is a very very defensive captain abroad which has cost us d series in SA( Remember his usage of older ball for 146 overs when kallis was just settling in.. n not looking for wkts..,which cost India d match n d series.., saw how he used Binny today ).He knows how to win games within India by using d spinners.., but don't know how to Marshall his resources when his spinners become ineffective.. Also he is not a capable test batter outside Asia.. Pl. Remove him from d test team n make pujara d captain.., a better WK batsman like saha/ Karthik can play.. Also he is d best middle order batsman in d shorter formats..,so keep him in d team only as a WK batsman but please remove him from captaincy.., that is if u really want India to excel..

  • bijuphilip on January 28, 2014, 17:46 GMT

    I think Sandeep pateel is one of the reliable person and take wise decision, Dhoni's captaincy never looks great if u analysis a match. Gambir is the best available captain followed by kholi. Doni is the most reliable player in indian side and one of the best keeper. 1.Gambir2.davan3pujara4kholi5ambatirayidu.6aswin7dhoni.8jadeja9rohit10shami11kumar(kholi,rayidu and rohit needs to bowl 12 overs)12.manojthivary13rahane14razool15aron16rishidavan(reserve abisheknair,irfan,sanju vsamson,jadav,vzol,rajeevshukla,ojaa) most importantly gambir should be the captain

  • xylo on January 28, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    It looks like Praveen Kumar might have an opening.

  • Maverick_26 on January 28, 2014, 17:31 GMT

    I see a lot of DHONI BASHERS here. I'll keep my argument only to ODI. I just want to say to them that this is the guy who has helped IND win the WC2011. He is the number 6th batsman in ICC ODI rating himself. So one thing is for sure he cant be criticized for his place in the ODI team as a player.

    Now lets talk about captaincy. What can the poor guy do if you are stuck with bowlers of the ability we have in the team? Some people are saying his team selection isn't right. He did say in one of the interviews when asked y he is using two spinners in NZ. And he answered frankly that he doesn't see a point. IND has lot of medium pacers but name 1 who is left outside intentionally by Dhoni..anyone?

  • martin000 on January 28, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    Did he just say that the problem lies within the fast bowling department and the spin duo seems good for 2015 world cup?? When will he realize that Ashwin is going wicket-less even in favorable conditions for quite sometime. Someone plz tell him that we don't want a batting all-rounder (or so said) who more often goes wicket-less with a better Econ compared to our medium pacers. Either his elegant stroke making doesn't make him a better batsman unless he scores some consistent 30+ runs which hasn't happened so far. Amit mishra or ohja or even piyush chawla are better wicket taking bowlers than him.

  • reb1 on January 28, 2014, 17:25 GMT

    Why not give credit to the New Zealand batsmen and bowlers instead? They played with a better temperament, and they have a bunch of WORLD class cricketers who perform everywhere. And all this talk of home and abroad doesn't truly apply to India, as India has the most partisan fans of any cricketing nation in the world both at home and abroad, and almost in every game anywhere they have more than 50% crowd support (I am not saying this is a bad thing). This is not true for teams visiting India, who have to fight weather and cracked pitches, and hear crickets chirping when they hit the most spectacular shot or take the most spectacular catch.

  • Prakmca on January 28, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    All thought Dhawan is better than Gambhir... What happened now.... Gambhir far most better than Dhawan... why he is not in the team?

    We have to select team for the playing conditions? Why Praveen kumar is not in the team, and WHY ISHANT is in the team???? So may WHY WHY.....

    SELECT the team to WIN the matches.... It's really paining to see India loosing badly.... WHO is responsible?

  • martin000 on January 28, 2014, 17:18 GMT

    Did he just say that the problem lies within the fast bowling department and the spin duo seems good for 2015 world cup?? When will he realize that Ashwin is going wicket-less even in favorable conditions for quite sometime. Someone plz tell him that we don't want a batting all-rounder (or so said) who more often goes wicket-less with a better Econ compared to our medium pacers. Either his elegant stroke making doesn't make him a better batsman unless he scores some consistent 30+ runs which hasn't happened so far. Amit mishra or ohja or even piyush chawla are better wicket taking bowlers than him.

  • Chris_P on January 28, 2014, 17:16 GMT

    I never read articles when the words "fast bowling" is associated with Indian cricket. That is the impossible dream, fuys, never going to happen, ever. Next time put "pace bowling" & I might peruse the article.

  • prasanna_79 on January 28, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    We need an aggressive & result oriented captain who is always looking for wickets& not one who waits for d batsmen to make some mistakes.., should be very severe on non performers.., should not be influenced by politics or personal vendettas when selecting teams.., should instill confidence in bowlers n inspire them to do well.., etc.., In short.. HE SHOULDN'T B A CAPTAIN LIKE MSD..!!!

  • ramsrr on January 28, 2014, 17:02 GMT

    The problem with Indian Team is that out of 11 at least we need to have few consistent and experienced performers in batting and bowling departments MSD makes experiments to try new players from time to time depending on situations....Star performers of years 2009-11 till world cup who not yet retired are Shewag, Gambhir, Yuvi.. were dropped due non performance of one season but they do not understand they are most experienced in International pitches. In Bowling Zaheer who has come back from injury one of the most consistent and Mohammed Shami has proved now. Frequent changes like trying Aaron Ishanth Umesh Yadhav Praveen Kumar Vinay Kumar selections were short lived Earlier batsman and seemers played for many years and different conditions Today As"Young" team we are compromising on "Experience" and its going to ruin us in International season and WC 2015..Lets Build like Sachin Dravid Kapil starwalts for many years. MSD be treated good batsman now but should loose his captaincy

  • on January 28, 2014, 17:02 GMT

    The problem with the current Indian team is, they are playing in overseas with Indian wicket mindset, if you see in SouthAfrica ODI series or this series batsman are batting as if they are batting in Indian conditions and the same with the bowlers as well. Its the mindset the team has to change. Adapting to new conditions and practicing how its going to work in the new conditions, also the players have to quick learner and play smart, without these things, the Indian team can never win a single match abroad, it will remain as a home tiger only.

  • on January 28, 2014, 17:02 GMT

    I bet anyone else from the current team captaining India would have won atleast one match during the past 2 tours! Dhoni does not seem to learn anything and is argubaly the most defensive captain that I have ever seen starting from the days when he started his captaincy. India will not progress under his captaincy. He should gracefully step down from captaincy and should also relinquish his test place!!!!

    There is no use of having talented resources when you do not know how to use them!!!!

  • GlobalCricketLover on January 28, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    why is a captain talking about selection matters in a post match talk?

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:58 GMT

    Average Team, Average performance away from home..

    Start of the tour - dhoni "team seems to have settled now" a big Laugh out loud!

    contradictory statements left right centre - "happy with the pool of bowlers" they need to learn to improve according to sitation etc. Either the bowlers are again - below AVERAGE (love using that word for the Indian CT) or they are not being used properly? someone has to take the blame.

    Its funny how BCCI self declares itself amongst the top three..

    Anticipating more below average performances in the red ball show!

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:56 GMT

    Could have been closer despite the batsmen and bowling failures if Dhoni had just given into the new strategy needed to win games, you need to attack more than before. Cant settle into the routine of best bowlers, part timers, best bowlers. Also the field placements were not stopping the run flow either. Sunny kept saying indian outfield fielders should be on the rope while the in fielders should be within range to stop the singles.

  • VinodGupte on January 28, 2014, 16:55 GMT

    let's see how many fast bowlers IND has tried in the last 4 years or so. RP Singh, Irfan Pathan, Munaf Patel, A Mithun, Vinay Kumar, Praveen Kumar, Varun Aron, Umesh Yadav, Bhuvaneshwar Kumar, Shami, Ashok Dinda, Mohit Sharma, Sreesanth, Z Khan, Ishant Sharma. i am sure i missed a few. among all these bowlers, not even one gives the fans the confidence that someone like steyn or johnson does. IND fast bowling is doomed. let's face it. there can be a spark here and another there, but sheer domination is impossible.

  • Rahulbose on January 28, 2014, 16:52 GMT

    Indian Fast bowler is an oxymoron. History shows a player fitting that description does not exist in nature. Up to this point it has not been proven to be a law of nature but it is a conjecture well supported by observable evidence. It also has an associated Pakistan paradox, on why the people from same culture, lifestyle and genetic stock with a fraction of the population can produce an abundance of true fast bowlers while India can't locate a single one.

  • vj3478 on January 28, 2014, 16:52 GMT

    May be Dhoni can go back and take look after how many matches Ashwin and Jaddu bowled well. And how many chances did he give to the new bowlers even when Ishant was failing consistently(was Aaron worse than Ishant?.. only Ishant can bowl worse than Ishant). May be can explain why Binny bowled only 1 over if the other fast bowlers were pathetic. May be he can explain why Rahane, the specialist opener played 1 down when Kohli, a successful 1 down player was asked to open the innings. Is it to promote Ashwin at #5? are you serious?? and may be he can explain why he never tried Ojha and Amit who are more successful than Ashwin n Jaddu(what if one of these two are injured around world cup). It looks as if he tries his best to make the replacement players for Ishant/Raina/Ashwin/Jaddu fail so that they will be called back and he can play HIS team.

  • Nampally on January 28, 2014, 16:51 GMT

    Fans seem to blame Dhoni for all India's failures. His captaincy & Xi selection is flawed. But when the Bowlers bowl so badly & unable to defend 278 runs in an ODI, the blame falls squarely on the Bowlers. Shami was very poor in the last 2 ODI's after performing so well before. Jadeja & Ashwin bowled very well but not lucky to take wkts. Compare the Indian seamers to Mills & Southee- a huge difference in performance. Aaron's name has been pushed by all Fans including myself! But his performance was "shockingly Poor & third class"! I would only question Dhoni for giving Binny just I over while WK Rayudu bowled 3 overs- Why? Kumar was economical. Had Shami & Aaron bowled as economically as Jadeja & Ashwin, India would have won. Bowling @ 8 runs/over is worse than Ishant! Putting forward these "Multiple Names by Fans" is futile when the same "Names" let down India so badly as Shami & Aaron. When you get Indian Cap live up to its #1 image by bowling like #1 Bowler NOT like a Minnow - OK?

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:50 GMT

    10). CHOOSING THE BEST WITH ABILITY & POLISHING THEM RATHER PICKING MEDIOCRES WITH DECIPLINE The finest sportsmen use match wining equipments even though r hardest to control

    11). BOWLING CAPTAIN Pak had bowling captains & they understand angles better

    12). HUNTING IN PACKS……Ambrose would ball dots & walsh would pick wickets..

    DRWBACKS OF NOT HAVING GREAT BOWLERS. If of Kohli or Sachin had played for Pak 90% of their 100s would have been match winning & their avgs would have been higher bcz of low score board pressure

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:48 GMT

    8). ENCOURAGE INNOVATION - BOWLING IS ART NOT CUMBERSOME JOB: When u do something for joy u do it far better than when u r forced to do it……Look at Ajmal, Warne, Akram, Murali. They r artists not office workers. They take joy in defeating batsmen…In Pk bowlers given freedom. This is the reason Paki & world bowlers improve with time.. Indians bowlers like Ishant come to International stage oozing with talent only to deteriorate with time bcz in India bowlers r advised to work under the strict instructions of captain & coach. Dhoni makes it worse by keep changing fields requiring different lines & length from his bowlers, not letting them settle into a good line & rythem.

    10). DEMANDING BOWLERS ONLY PRACTICALLY POSSIBLE THINGS: eg asking bowler to bowl 6 Yorkers-It is impossible to bowl 4 perfect yorkers an over for any bowler. 3 will be full toss or half vollys leaking 3 6s. similarly impossible for spinner to ball 6 good length balls. Must give him short ball & full ball protection.

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:47 GMT

    It's not just about the players but the captaincy. When Dhoni captained in the 2008 CB series I was impressed by his pro-activity and the way he attacked with his field placings. Over time Dhoni has changed to an ultra-defensive captain who plays the waiting game. Contrast that with McCullum who has fielders up saving singles even during the 30-40 over period (not counting the powerplay). When the captain is proactive and talking about wickets, the bowlers bowl to take wickets. Currently the Indian bowlers are bowling too many defensive back-of-a-length balls rather than pitching it up and making batsmen drive. No wonder they are getting smashed around early on. Whoever came up with this strategy should be sacked. I don't think the bowling coach has any idea what he's doing. We need a change in the leadership -- even though it's only a year before the world cup. But if we want to be anywhere near contenders to it, we need a serious change in captaincy and coaching staff.

  • Raj1960 on January 28, 2014, 16:46 GMT

    Dhoni does make a very good point. Our fast bowlers gave away way too many boundaries in first 8 overs. They need to be disciplined on where to bowl on what type of pitches. India has good variety in fast bowling, however they need to be able to apply pressure on batsman in all types of situations. Especially when you have 275+ runs on the board, you should be able to bowl up to the bat. Our bowlers bowled short and wide and the match became easy for NZ to win

  • Nampally on January 28, 2014, 16:34 GMT

    Dhoni is absolutely correct when he says that the "Bowlers need to use their Brains". Shami is a good bowler with lot of potential but he needs to bowl consistently on the off stump with length & control. Yes we have plenty of Named fast bowlers but when they are chosen they fail to perform! What is the problem with these guys? There is no hunger to take wkts. using your talent. Is this because they are overpaid for what they are worth? In the old times India had Cricketers "who were paid mere pittance". But they were hungry to perform well. Kapil Dev, R.B.Desai, Srinath - Seamers + Mankad, Gupte, Chandra, Kumble, Venkat, Prasanna, Durrani, Nadkarni, Surthi, amongst spinners. Dollars seem to be the motivating factor- not lPride to play for India or love for Cricket. Lower Salary grades + Add performance bonus to exceed the salary, it might be a better motivating factor. Example: Women Cricketers like Raj, perform brilliantly even with <mere 5% of Men's salary - love of the Game!

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:32 GMT

    3). GIVING BOWLERS THE FIELDS THEY R COMFORTABLE WITH: eg Do not have slips for in swing bowlers instead have 2 short mid wickets & leg side dominant fields

    4). GIVING CONFIDENCE TO BOWLERS: They need to be told that they r no short in capability than world's best, just they have to match the credentials of world's best too

    5).SETTING HIGH STANDARDS: You achieve what u aspire. If u only aspire mediocrity u will get only that far. Indian bowlers leaking 5.5/over & taking occasional wicket r told great job..In Pak if u leak above 4.5 u r told u won't play next game. This sets high standards. So even if Ind wins chasing over 250 Indian bowlers must be told they bowled badly

    6). SETTING UP A BATSMAN FOR DISMISSAL NO CLOSE MISSES: eg Ishant gets unlucky with edges but Wasim wasn't bcz he would set up a batsman & finally he would sucked up into bad short eg after 2 good overs he would intentionally float full wide sucker delivery swinging further away or in swinger to take wicket

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:29 GMT

    India do not have the bite to win away from home. India are no less than minnows away from home.That's the reality everyone needs to understand.One should not blame just the bowlers. Top order batsmen consistently failed to do what is required of them.Go play at home. Do not come out of your country.

  • Criketanand on January 28, 2014, 16:27 GMT

    @CurrentPresident Yes Dhoni did lots of right by dropping non performers.. raine dropped check. Ishant dropped check. binny brought in check, bat first check. but then the problem with dhonis decisions start after that. he doesnt have any good logic for these mistakes. Kohli bat no 3 established---open with him-why rahane could open, why bat him no 3. binny brought in----why not bowl few overs with him why only 1 over. why not keep spin at one end and fast at other rather than release the pressure by bowling fast at both ends why drop dhawan sorry i feel more for Indian team as the captain seems to be obstinate and then stupid when he listens to some suggestion.

  • sns55 on January 28, 2014, 16:25 GMT

    Get rid of John Dawes, the Indian bowling coach. These are fundamental flaws in approach and mindset. These young bowlers look lost in these conditions. They need a mentor with actual international cricket experience.

  • tanstell87 on January 28, 2014, 16:23 GMT

    why only blaming pacers ...what about R Ashwin who has no wickets to show in his wicket column since Australia series in India...he has been liability to the Indian team since long...why is Amit Mishra not given any opportunity ahead of Ashwin ....oh i forgot MS & R Ashwin play for the same team in IPL...Ashwin playing till World Cup....so the opposition will keep getting 300 runs against India in ODIs as Dhoni will continue playing Ashwin who cant pick wickets.......what about mediocre Raina...wonder why Binny was given only one over...if he had picked wickets then it would have been curtains for Ashwin & Raina...

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:21 GMT

    Did He say fast-bowling choices?

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    M., Dhoni forget your personal issues with players whom you are keeping out due to personal reasons not because of performnce, then only team can perform. else the worst is to been seen...

  • kunal18 on January 28, 2014, 16:19 GMT

    I am convinced with Dhoni and many will oppose me i know but to get targets of 280+ in every game is not good. When d team made 278 today and got 2 wickets with not more than 60, kiwis could have collapsed had there was no pressure applied. Bhuvi had a few off games but i think it is SA tour that is responsible. He was dropped there and the rhythm went off. Team selection has been poor firstly which is one of the reason for all this. I'm not a fan of Pankaj Singh but the lad has been consistent. When Mohit can be tried, i see no other reason why the likes of Pankaj Singh, Rishi Dhawan and Ishwar Pandey can be tried. Today Binny wasn't tested much and that only Dhoni can explain. We need Irfan, Praveen who bowl smart rather than just feed the batsmen deliveries outside off. Bowlers should learn, they are international bowlers, not the club bowlers.

  • on January 28, 2014, 16:19 GMT

    SOLUTIONS OF BOWLING 1). UTILIZING INHERENT STRENGTH OF BOWLER: eg B Kumar's strength is swing so give him more overs with new ball & finish his overs b4 35 overs……Ishant bowls well in the middle but poor at death so use him b/w 10 to 40 overs…..Shami & Aaron/ Yadav have great pace needed for death bowling. Train them to bowl inswing & short balls at body

    2). FIELD PLACEMENT: should be such that bad delivery produces a single & good delivery produces dot. Eg Against fast bowlers even the worst batsmen can maneuver or edge all good balls to 3rd man for high velocity slots using bowler's pace so always have fine deep 3rd man for all fast bowlers-further edged boundary discourages him to bowl fast..Similarly sq of wicket boundaries discourage spinner to spin & forces him to bowl fast & full. Against spin the safest orthodox high velocity shot is cut & sweep so always have man deep for cut.. Keep short cover & short mid wicket close always to cut big angles for drop & run of good balls

  • Aravind_Verified on January 28, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    you can't blame bhuvaneshwar kumar much for his bowling..india concedes over 300 runs almost every time in the last 15-20 matches..even after playing all these matches his economy rate is still only 4.70..shami has 40 wkts in just 24 matches..so he has almost 2 wkts in every match he played..so those two are fine..what india need is a third seamer..i think irfan pathan is the best pick..he will come good in these type of pitches

  • kalyanbk on January 28, 2014, 16:11 GMT

    To be fair to Dhoni, the fast bowlers bowled a boundary ball every over. Binny is strictly medium pace and does not move it like a Praveen Kumar or Bhuvi. If you think of the World Cup, he will be taken apart by top teams especially with only 4 fielders out. India is missing someone like Javagal Srinath who can provide control if not wickets to the captain.

  • niazbhi on January 28, 2014, 16:04 GMT

    When Zaheer came in, india abandoned Irfan (Irfan could be the fast bowling allrounder). When B Kumar came in, India forgot P Kumar. Now they donot know who to pick because they would not rest Ishant for a day and try other bowlers enough. Also india's habit of picking two quicks with Raina, Kohli bowling a lot is costing them finding the best quicks for ODIs. India does not have a bolwer like Steyn. Neither does NZ, or the current Pak team. India has to trust their top three pace bowlers (may be rotate one) and not worry about losses. They will find. Between PK, Bhuvi, Zaheer, Irfan, Shami, they have enough to compete.

  • IAS2009 on January 28, 2014, 16:01 GMT

    The new rules in ODI will require wicket taking bowlers and aggressive captainship, you need to invite batsmen to take chances against you if they need runs, India have relied too much in their batting, it has done good for them no doubt (but in India only and that is how it will be always if they don't change according to new rules), I think ICC ODI ranking is so flawed it is laughable, If one tem has long stretch of games at home they could be number one but same team can loose to very low ranking team abroad. The reality is for Indian bowling is they have not adapted to conditions and rules, talent is there but have to be converted to wins. NZ batsmen have so much confidence in ripping Indian fast bowling they blocked Ashwin and Jadeja and took no risk at all, that is where the match was lost. I thought 278 was good total on this pitch.

  • buntyj on January 28, 2014, 16:01 GMT

    ps- whjile not a fan of binny (based on stats) its curious he was given a single over; why play him then? msd gets away with economy rate focus in india as indian batsman do better at home while indian spinners and reverse swing bowlers get more help from the sg ball and home pitches; but this strategy gets exposed abroad

  • CurrentPresident on January 28, 2014, 15:59 GMT

    You have to feel for Dhoni. We did everything that the armchair critics asked of him: - Drop Ishant. check. - Drop Raina. check. - Bring in Stuart Binny. check - Bat first. check.

    He is right, there are no Indian bowlers who can deliver the goods. They are all leaderless and clueless. Dhoni cannot lead them. He doesn't know how to take wickets. Someone needs to lead the bowling attack and shape the talent.

    Unfortunately, there is only one man who can do this - Zaheer, and he is a liability on the field. Maybe we have no other option but to include him. A bowling coach like Alan Donald or Wasim Akram could help too.

  • Lion83 on January 28, 2014, 15:58 GMT

    Not only bowlers but also batsmens are also struggling to score in fast and bouncy pitches.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:56 GMT

    Couldn't understand why binny didn't came ahead of Ashwin and bowled only 1 over. Amit Mishra should be there in the team , he is a genuine wicket taker

  • buntyj on January 28, 2014, 15:56 GMT

    the issue is msd's clear preference for economy rates over strike rates (balls per wicket); umesh yadav has a first class strike rate of 50, home test strike rate of 46 and away test strike rate of 50; (for all his pace and occasional good spells aarons strike rate is only 64 in domestic cricket); look at ishant and other favourites of msd; in longer series the initial economy advantage of such bowlers favoured by msd gives way to their getting clobbered too; and he has pandey in reserve with good strike rate (50 or so) acceptable economy rate not only in domestic cricket but also in both long and short formats in india a's tour of south africa a few months ago; and then rishi dhawan who also has a strike rate of about 50 in domestic cricket and acceptable economy rate; the sole focus on economy rates by msd is actually whats standing in the way of possibly more effective bowlers (we'll know only once we try em)

  • JustAnObservation on January 28, 2014, 15:55 GMT

    Does this man ever blame his fav players? Ashwin has been a big flop overseas. In 38 ODIs overseas, he has taken just 41 wickets at an avg of 40. In the last two series against SA & New Zealand, he has taken just 2 wickets in 6 matches at an astronomical avg of 190. Still the captain does not have a word against him! His other favourite Ishant was dropped only after hue and cry by ex-cricketers. Raina flopped for 30 matches and so has Rohit in the past. However, many others like Umesh Yadav, Mishra, Ojha, Vinay, Dinda, Yusuf, Tiwary, Gambhir, Sehwag, Bhajji, Zaheer, Yuvi etc are axed after a couple of bad performances. The scapegoats for the current series loss would be Bhuvi, Rahane, Binny, Rayyudu, Shami, etc. Whereas, Raina, Ashwin, Ishant etc would be selected for the next series and the one thereafter. Earlier too, after a bad series, all pacers were axed except Ishant who had an equally bad series. Let us try someone like Rasool, who would not be more bad than Ashwin!!

  • priceless1 on January 28, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    where is Sanju Samson ? he is a naturally gifted player , far better choice then flat track bullies like Rina and Rahane

  • rock_13 on January 28, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    I was a big Dhoni fan, as he brought the freshness and exuberance to the team that was way lacking. But the fact that he is irreplaceable worries me. I think the Indian fans being apathetic to mediocrity is the reason why we never had a championship for a long time. His closeness to the BCCI chief who has allegations against him is another worrying factor. In todays Indian cricket team, another Dhoni can come in, can bat and bowl and field but never lead. BCCI has kept the captain as an extension of their president, and in someways they have made the Indian cricket team a successful business venture, where except for the Indian populace everybody else owns a stake.

  • TRAM on January 28, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    Mr Dhoni, I have just 3 points / questions: 1. Is this this first time India pace bowlers bowled bad?? How come you never got so mad when ISharma (72 ODI) bowled bad SO MANY TIMES?

    2. You ask for spin tracks at home. Dont you think that discourages pace bowlers of India?

    3. I assume you pick your bowlers after verifying their bowling at the nets / practice. So, it seems to me including Ishant, all these bowlers bowl well at the nets and bowl bad at the match? Is that the scenario? If so, you need to fire bowling coach since it is his job to get the "mind" strong for the bowlers. If they are bowling bad at nets, then it is your responsibility to select new young bowlers. But you stuck with the likes of ISharma/RP Singh etc. Ultimately YOU the captain, is responsible for the team's performance. Do what it takes to form a team that performs.

  • IndCoach on January 28, 2014, 15:48 GMT

    Guys... all our comments are simply waste of time... This management is fit for nothing and way behind professionalism. They weigh their pockets more than the performance. There are better talents to be groomed. But for no reason they have been kept away. Rohit plays once in blue moon, but he will still play. Dhawan was axed for just few bad games. Then why Rohit persists? What happened to Irfan Pathan, Pujara, Praveen Kumar and so many can be named. This Indian team will survive only when a foreign talents pics the real talents from the Indian talent pool. Otherwise the nonsensical selection committee will pick the right pocket to fill money. Mind u Indian team, You cannot win a game with Rohit opening. Try with somebody like Dinesh Karthik or Pujara or somebody. I mean it.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:42 GMT

    Let's face the fact that our bowlers are looking clueless in the pursuit to take 10 wickets . Be it in home conditions or outside they are not able to either bowl out the opposition nor contain them . Yes , they all are playing their first series outside India but that is folly that Dhoni did by making them passengers all along and playing Ishant sharma match after match. Today , he had Binny in the team as an all-rounder and what did he get to do - watch the batting and field for 50 overs. Dhoni shud keep on playing Ishant , Rohit , Ashwin , Raina till they themselves get fed up of the dismal performance and quit the game . That way he will be building a great pool of players for ages .

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:40 GMT

    Whatever happened to Munaf Patel? He was one of the stars of our 2011 World Cup win and could always be relied upon to bowl to his field. How come he's completely disappeared from contention?

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 28, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    I wonder what MRF pace foundation is up to? And the richest cricket body is busy drafting its 2 tier system. Perhaps they should make another draft to remove pace bowlers from the game? Wonder whether i will be able to see another fast bowler with all round skills like kapil dev. sigh!!

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:38 GMT

    MSD doesn't talk to bowlers during the match. He only communicates with Jadeja and Aswhin but doesn't seem to talk to the fast bowlers. If he feels bowling is not good what the hell does he do in the team selection meetings. He played Ishanth in the first 2 matches inspite of his poor performance in SA. Why did he have to select him in the playing 11 for the first 2 games. Gavaskar was commenting all along that fielders were standing 5 to 6 meters inside the boundary where as they should be near the ropes, his filed placements were pathetic. He failed as a captain and starts blaming everyone including the wickets, new rules, bowlers , batsmen , weather for all the losses.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:35 GMT

    team india guided by absolute csk captain

  • inswing on January 28, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Now we see the real effect of rule changes in field placement. With somewhat - but not by a lot - weaker bowling, India is unable to contain the opposition at all unless the wicket is very difficult to bat on. India won the champions trophy where all matches were low scoring. Outside India, on any 250+ wicket, India has basically no hope. Even within India they barely managed to beat Aus. They are having to chase 350 routinely in India. India's golden days of ODI excellence are over. Rule changes are the primary cause of that (along with the bowling which always has been on the weaker side). Just as turf change in hockey eliminated India as a top side, this ingenious fielding change will eliminate India as a top side. Unless they can find a couple of decent fast bowlers, which is not happening.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    All these new bowlers should learn well enough to tackle any situation. But my only concern is despite poor performance Rohit, Ashwin and Raina are still in the team!!! Give them a break and try new combination.

  • mucheemaann on January 28, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    as a follow up to "@Shailendra Singh" and Kapil Dev is probably 55 year old and may not be at his best. We need to find some younger best fast bowlers.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:19 GMT

    I dont understand the logic of Dhoni who gave only 1 over for Binny and 3 overs to rayadu. Atleast he should have tried binny for 3-4 overs instead of pace bowler who has conceded with 8 run rate. Even i dont understand why virat was send as a opener when rahayane was there where he regular open in first class or IPL.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:19 GMT

    To see the Indian "FAST" bowling condition Dhoni now should think about to re-build the Indian bowling line up like this: Aswin-Jadeja-Mishra-Ojha-Bhajji. I am quite sure they can't get worse than those Sharma's or Ahmed's.

  • on January 28, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    it should be "Not sure of our medium-pacers-bowling choices" and Dhoni took Jadeja and Ashwin out of attack,, both of them and release all the pressure... and yes Indian Medium Pacers were abysmal

  • laddum on January 28, 2014, 15:15 GMT

    Amaizing Dhoni....completely forgot about the Raina. He has so much experience but still can't play short and fast ball but he started blaming poor new bowlers on their first trip outside. Bravo Dhoni....!!

  • cricket_lover1 on January 28, 2014, 15:08 GMT

    DHONI to blame for this..He is saying after the match that the fast bowlers gave too much width outside off and bowled little too short..what he was doing while the match was going on..he could have walked to the bowler and told them what they are doing...being a wicketkeeper he is in a best position to judge what line/length bowlers are bowling...its of no use to say all this after the match...coming back to the fast bowlers...why they can't learn quickly...use your brain and bowl according to the conditions not pre-meditated. at least watch the video of the opposition bowlers how they are utilizing the conditions what length they are bowling. NZ bowlers were making a mockery of the Indian batters by bowling short and looking at their helpless technique...when they will learn...Indian team is talented its just they have to play according to the conditions and adjust their game...the way they are batting/bowling anybody can replace them and do the same..at least will bring fun...

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    COme on ! I will name you atleast 15 bowlers who can be experimented in the upcoming series and be taken in the ICC WC 2015 squad.. Rishi Dhawan ; Ashok Dinda ; Varun Aaron ; Ahish Nehra ; Zaheer Khan ; Vinay Kumar ; Bhuvaneshwar Kumar ; Joginder Sharma ; Abhimanyu Mithun ; Junaid Khan ; Samad Fallah ; Praveen Kumar ; Sandeep Sharma ; Ishwar Pandey ; Pankaj Singh ; Manpreet Gony ; Jaydev Unadkat

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:56 GMT

    Totally disagree to dhonis comments...i would like to say that we do not hv wicket taking bowlers....be it spinners or pacers...it has been ages since india has produced a threatining bowler....the likes of steyn , morkel , johnson , falukner .... When indian spinners contain ....pacers give runs and viceversa....300 runs in practically every innings ...wakeup captain

  • Temuzin on January 28, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    Venkat Subs: I totally agree with you that Dhoni should realize his best bowlers. Now could you please forward 3 names of the best fast bowlers which you think will not be passenger.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:49 GMT

    Come on!Binny knows to bowl better than Ambati and yet he got only 1 over to bowl while Raydu getting 3.I also dont understand the logic of continuing with Ashwin who is being Wicketless as well as useless except for his batting which he performed in just 1 match.Give Ishwar Pandey a chance instead of Bhuvaneshwar who is going wicketless too and conceding about 5 per over . No point of making Virat open which does not suites him but India could have used Ajinkya Rahane as an opener who opens the innings most often.And "Mr. Venkat Bollu" Aaron has been bowling superbly in the Ranji Trophy as well as in the 2 games which he ha splayed.. Only this game he went a touch expensive but atleast not like Ishant Sharma who conceded runs abot 8 per over and remains wicketless. Shami has been performing well but it does not mean that he should be playing every match irrespective of his performance which he has provided in the last 2 games where He has taken wickets but bowling 10 overs and conced-

  • Crick_Expert on January 28, 2014, 14:47 GMT

    KOHLI should be Indian Capt. That only a formula INDIA can win.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    It's true our fast bowler didn't bowl well today, but important thing is spin bowler didn't take any wicket even though it was spinning . Moreover Dhoni doesn't have any clue or interest on new players binny and rayudu , he knows only player who plays for CSK.

  • bhushanB on January 28, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    Great confidence showed by Dhoni on the debutant Binny.......Great confidence booster for him.... not getting to bat any.. and bowling a single over.. when other pacers are belted.....

    How does he explain that?

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    Rahane flopped miserably in this series but he can be given a chance in one more series to capitalize on the promise he showed during the recent Ind-SA test series. Pujara despite his fitness issues that he can't play all the formats due to his weak knees which have been operated upon has to be in the ODI XI. Gambhir with his experience, ability to play spinners, his past record both in Aus/NZ can come into the middle order at no.3 and play the role he played in the previous WC with aplomb. Kohli can come in at no.4 where he played well previously as well to give support to the middle order. As of now, the team for me would be: Pujara, Rohit, Gambhir, Kohli, Dhoni, Raina/Yuvi, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shami, Zak(Yes he is needed despite his woeful fielding and mindless slogging), Yadav. Also, there is a need to get Irfan Pathan back to peak fitness along with Praveen Kumar who is much better than B.Kumar. Dhawan is the reserve opener and DK should be the reserve middle order batsman/WK.

  • UsmanMuhammad on January 28, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    Difficult to produce when fast bowling has been the least priority and events like ipl don't churn out bowlers rather they make them lost species. Think loud and only kapil hits memory to be considered a genuine bowler India has produced.

    Bring kapil dev and give him 5 years to unearth and develop bowlers. India can't even claim to be known for spin bowlers with current crop of spinners.

    Batsmen have proven every now and then to be flat track bullies with exception of kohli and msd.

  • gomsi20 on January 28, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    i am pretty sure that bowlers like RP Singh, Umesh Yadav, Praveen Kumar(conceed very less runs) havn't got enough chances like the other fast bowlers. Due to this, RP Singh is a lost name now who used be a brilliant bowler(he won us the T20). Umesh has got pace which will improve further only if he plays more. He soon will be a waste like RP Singh, if not give chances. Also, time for India to get a good fast bowling coach. BCCI spend some money here rather than IPL!! Adding to this, Indian bowlers have to work hard, get fit build some shoulders to bowl quicker and faster. For god sake hit the gym and build the body like other fast bowlers have.

  • Karunk on January 28, 2014, 14:41 GMT

    Dhoni's statement is confusing. India has pool of bowlers having talent but he is not sure of fast bowling choices. He says they need to learn how to improve according to situations and fast bowlers will have to start using brains. Does it mean they have talent and no brains.. Bhuvi is off this series and Shami is consistent apart from this series. Who is left? Ishant Sharma & Aaron.

    What is the time frame for learning? Ishant has played 72 ODI's having made his debut in 2007. Bhuvi - 30 ODI's. Shami - 24 ODI's & Aaron - is the only rookie having played 6 ODI's. He is our fast bowling sensation at 140+ speed but concedes 51 runs in 6.1 overs today. Rayudu had to bowl his remaining 3 overs. On the same pitch, Mills bowling at 128+ speed gave 42 runs in 10 overs. Agree with Dhoni!! Our fast bowlers need to start using brains. He has praised spinners. They bowled economically but did not take a wicket and break the Taylor - Williamson partnership.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:39 GMT

    dhoni hardly speaks ill of his team mates..mmust be really angry this time..

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    Dear Dhoni,

    Did it take you this long to realize this simple fact? I'm sure you having been playing cricket know better and should have asked for the best performing bowlers to be in the team .... why take some passengers all the way to New Zealand if not for performing?

  • Temuzin on January 28, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    Poor Dhoni is really helpless at the moment. All his captaincy skill is being wasted on how to hide a few bowlers in his team. His bowlers are the worst in international cricket and their replacements are even more worse. These bowlers cant defend anything less than 350 and even 350 is not safe. That's why Dhoni was always depending on his batsmen to chase but all pseudo experts were criticizing his decisions to bowl first. Most of the fans crying for this player or that player but when given the opportunity they were no better than the previous one. now we know why Dhoni was stuck with ishant sharma or Raina. Look at Rahane, he has not put the world on fire in this series.

  • Asadpk on January 28, 2014, 14:33 GMT

    Cut the losses, in ODI India will be better served with just one pace bowler; open the bowling with Bhuvi & Ashwin and then later on Jaddu, Ojha and another spinner can fill in the overs. It will be much better than Ishant & co. going for 8 an over for another 15 to 20 overs.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:32 GMT

    So India has again lost an ODI series. This time to NZ on tracks which were not too different from Indian pitches except maybe some bounce and pace. Shorter boundaries should have helped the power hitters but this was not the case. Dhawan with his initial burst has fallen away and his technique is under scrutiny. Also he may have scored a lot of ODI runs but they were not without the share of risks and whenever he scored a century, he was dropped at least once during his innings. His only flawless innings was the innings which he played on his test match debut which was a dream innings. Rohit despite his inconsistency is one of the best we have. Rayudu doesn't really inspire confidence. Raina is a complete team man but his form doesn't guarantee him a place in the starting XI. Bowlers, especially fast bowlers, well what can one say about them, the less said the better, our bowling is absolute trash and with inconsistent batting, we deserved to lose this series. To be continued..

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    This is not a new problem for India. The best Indian fast bowler ever is considered to be Kapil Dev. And when you start thinking about the best fast bowlers ever... Kapil doesn't even figure in the top 10!

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:29 GMT

    at least vinay was far far far better then the current ones....

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    You've got to be kidding me.. The fast bowlers broke through twice within the first ten overs.. The spinners did not manage to pic one wicket on a spinning track.. How long is Ashwin going to produce wicketless ten overs and Dhoni going to defend him for that?? After the first ten overs, spinners must have run through the NZL team.. I mean apart from Williamson, there is no other bloke who can play quality spin bowling.. Bring Mishra in!!!

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:26 GMT

    To b honest this is for the 1st time in the series that the Indians have got a real pasting. Otherwise I thought they were competitive in all the other games of the series in all the aspects of the game. Just that they slipped at the wrong times.

  • wolf777 on January 28, 2014, 14:24 GMT

    What about spinners? They seem like dead weight as well. It is time to bench Ashwin who has picked up only two wickets in last 7 matches. Count one tests and that makes 8 overseas outing and he is still good for 2 wickets. Why is he in the team? Four fast bowlers were picked on spin friendly wickets...that was another amusing selection. Now one will be dropped on fast bowlers friendly wicket!!!

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    I am from India. One thing I will tell the Indian fans is even though the defeat against NZ is painful, we still can be optimistic about future. Every team has ups and downs. And we know India scaled more ups only during the first decade of 21st century. Before that we had been in down most of the times. And any time, any number of weaknesses can come up in any team. These days many coaches look into the chinks in the armor of other teams. I am sure Fletcher and Dhoni will look into what could be done to overcome the problems India is facing in ODIs. At the same time, congrats to NZ team! They really played well and deserve win.

  • mensan on January 28, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    Here you are talking about #1 team! You cannot always win on your batting alone, especially overseas. You need some bowlers also... some good bowlers of international calibre. IPL experts can't bowl at international teams. This explains the difference in standard of cricket in IPL and international matches.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:22 GMT

    Stop hiring sub standard bowling coaches and hire ian pont to sort out the factory production of fast bowling in the nation, there is potential but the current staff are incapable of aiding the talent. Hardly any of the seamers are developing their skills and actually improving as bowlers

  • Sultan2007 on January 28, 2014, 14:20 GMT

    With Shami and Aaron, one gets the sense that they are unable to control their line and length consistently because they are bowling a few klicks faster their body and action permits. This is not to suggest that they should pull back on their speed but they need to work up to a fitness level and rythm to be able to sustain the speeds that they are currently bowling at, but with control. This should be the challenge of the coaching staff. Ishant is another matter entirely. Till he gets his release right his future is bleak! Is there a case for Irfan? I know he has fitness issues but it would have been useful to have him tried out in NZ instead of Binny - who was good for only 1 over and over whom, Rayudu was preferred as a bowler!

  • gomsi20 on January 28, 2014, 14:19 GMT

    i am pretty sure that bowlers like RP Singh, Umesh Yadav havn't got enough chances like the other fast bowlers. Due to this, RP Singh is a lost name now who used be a brilliant bowler(he won us the T20). Umesh has got pace which will improve further only if he plays more. He soon will be a waste like RP Singh, if not give chances. Also, time for India to get a good fast bowling coach. BCCI spend some money here rather than IPL!!

    Adding to this, Indian bowlers have to work hard, get fit build some shoulders to bowl quicker and faster. For god sake hit the gym and build the body like other fast bowlers have.

  • on January 28, 2014, 14:16 GMT

    No captain can do anything with his bowlers failing consistently, But its again Dhoni's show with the bat but he still have to think better in couple of aspects. First most importantly, What was the need for opening with Kohli when you have the likes of Rahane/Rayudu(opened the innings with U-19 team). And second point, Why did you held Binny and sent Ashwin ahead of him? I think Binny is a better batsman than Ashwin. And then the last point, Why only one over to Binny and 3 overs to Rayudu? If binny is not good with bat and ball then whats the purpose of playing him. I hope he will not another of Mumbai's unlucky allrounder Nayar who played just couple of games for nothing and then ignored. Both Nayar and Binny has allround abilities so Dhoni should try with them. And I feel Rishi Dhawan should given a chance as well as the bowling allrounder. Where is Praveen Kumar gone? I didn't see him conceding much runs even in the high scoring game like Ishanth or Aaron or Umesh did till now

  • Nero28 on January 28, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    Stop criticizing Dhoni. Can't anybody remember viraat was a specialist opener in his early career and he often comes to bat when team score is 0-1 and playing outstandingly. So dhoni is just trying. And binny? Did you wanted to get jaddu or dhoni out early to see him bat. He is not a better home batsman than jadeja too. How can dhoni promote him over inform ASH or jaddu. About bowling him, the pitch was giving something for the spinners. In one over bowled,he was looking neither wicket taking nor economy. He would have butchered by ross, when there were lot of overs from other three quicks left. And the rohit haters, what about bringing a new batsman every match. Can some another for rohit score 50every innings. So, despite of all the failures it is the best possible squad to some extent the team have at the time. Everybody in the teams are best available players. Problem is they are not learning. Stop blaming MS Rahane is scoring just 49 from 4innings.

  • czzling on January 28, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    I simply didn't understand today's team(4th ODI)....it seemed like we had 6 bowlers, a wicket keeper batsman and 4 specialist batsmen. If Stuart Binny is a batsman who can bowl, he was an absolute waste in the team, time and time again reminding Dhoni has very limited clue as to how to perform outside India.

    And Rohit was a big culprit today in losing the game from a winning position. If he had stayed for 5-7 overs, it would have been 40-50 more runs for india meaning a tougher target for bowlers to bowl to. High time to get Pujara and Ambati in. Also, Karthik was such a great middle order in England. Simply can't understand why the selectors are playing merry go round with a great talent of facing difficult situations. Blaming bowling isn't helping much as the resources are limited.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:51 GMT

    Pack off Ishant n Vinay Kumar permanently n try the other deserving bowlers...there is no shortage of fast bowlers

  • fairfan70 on January 28, 2014, 13:48 GMT

    Well done, NZ (from Indian fan). India does not deserve to win a single game with the bowling line up they currently have. And rightfully they no longer are ranked #1. On the other hand, NZ fully deserves to go up the rankings.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:44 GMT

    Poor Dhoni, you can see that he is helpless as a captain. He knows that he doesnt have the support of good bowling, the amount of pressure that puts on the captain and the batsmen is more than you would think. Sad to see in a country of 1 billion people they cant find or cultivate 2-3 good fast bowlers. Or even one...

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    The bowling problem is something that has been plaguing India for a long time. Azhar faced it. Ganguly faced it and Dhoni is facing it now.

    I don't think we can expect any improvement in that department. Shami looks good but is unable to contain while Ishant, who should have been the head right now, is barely average. Kumar and Aaron need more exposure but there's only a little over a year for the WC, so don't have my hopes up.

    More problematic and solvable is India's batting. Dhawan and Rohit have fallen away, with the latter coming good only in phases. Raina has been a disappointment while Yuvraj is past his time. I expected Rahane to come good but he too failed in NZ.

    Pujara may be a good option in ODIs right now. Binny can become a good lower-order option if Dhoni uses him well.

    Though if we look at this match, Dhoni blundered on many fronts. Kohli should have stayed at 3 while Rahane could have opened. Dhoni should have gone in at 3 or 4 instead of sending unknowns to the fire

  • JustAnObservation on January 28, 2014, 13:36 GMT

    And Ashwin has taken just two wickets in 6 matches in SA and New Zealand at an astronomical avg of 190

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:33 GMT

    Sensible coomments from Dhoni. Its quite understandable that we don't have any options in our bag now. But its high time we do something and come up with a different lot who can absorb pressure. Someone like munaf patel and zaheer can do the job effectively.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:33 GMT

    How difficult is it to find a genuine quality bowler with sense to use his brain and talent with a population of over 120 crores. Cricket is highly worshipped in india. Yet there is no sign of getting a consistant world class bowler .. With world cup nearing , i dont see any chance india defenting the world cup overseas with this kind of bowling performance. Appropriately said by dhoni.This is the big issue to worry .

  • UsmanMuhammad on January 28, 2014, 13:32 GMT

    It's not gonna improve overnight or even before WC. How can a system produce fast bowlers when only inspiration for last 40 years has been one genuine swing bowler - Kapil Dev. No disrespect to Srinath, he was a fine bowler but not for elite class of bowlers.

    I don't see India being a strong contender for WC in AUS-NZ unless their batting amasses 300 every time which will not happen against most of the sides.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    India worst bowling ,with this bowling even can't win with 400 runs also.

    its better take Zaheer,munaf,Nehra,RP Singh instead of these worst guys

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 28, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    Dhoni is correct that we need thinking fast bowlers who can bowl according to the situation. That's why Ishant should be excluded from the Indian squad and that's why Zaheer was a great bowler (by Indian standards). We have no shortage of talented pace bowlers in India - Rishi Dhawan, Pankaj Singh, Anureet Singh, left armer Samad Fallah, etc. We should try all 4 of these. If even 2 of them come good, they along with Shami, Bhuvi and possibly Zak can form our fast bowling unit.

    We won World Cup 2011 because Zak got good support from Munaf and Nehra. Zak was Dhoni's go to man. Whenever Dhoni needed a wicket - he would toss the bowl to Zak. Without Zak we would not have made it to the quarter finals.

  • amarnath79 on January 28, 2014, 13:28 GMT

    If Jadeja and Ashwin are going to be the spinners in World Cup, forget it!!

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    Good to read some candid remarks by Dhoni, it is required to make it clear who's at fault. Indian fast bowlers were really off-color and which costed the series. On relatively pacer friendly pitches (as compared to subcontinent pitches), it was a real bad performance. The way Southee bowled today was commendable. And Southee isn't such a big name in international cricket. India batted well to reach 278 from the start they got but was completely undone by poor bowling. Its true that Dhoni took Jadeja and Ashwin off at a crucial juncture but the thought process he explained here justifies that act. However, with the current pacers it is unlikely to reach even the semis of the world cup, leave alone defending the title. If India has to match their last world cup performance, some radical changes are required in pace attack.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:27 GMT

    Taking off Sami and Arun soon after taking wickets. not allowwing Binny to bowl with one of the spinner and keep the another spinner for the later part. aloowing the favourite spinner to bowl to williamson and rossy at the start (a kid can say hey will score 15 of 30 at the start). safest option for our spinners to bowl na??

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    The Headlines should be not sure of Our Choice of Captain Dhoni!

    Look at the gut of the man, after losing almost all the overseas tours in the past 2 years, he behave as he will be the Captain for 2015.

    Its time Dhoni is Relieve of the Captaincy.

    Remember this New Zealand is No 8 in world ranking and they have recently lost to Bangladesh.

    If Dhoni has any self respect he should hand over the Captaincy to others

  • IndTheBest on January 28, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Dhoni's point is taken but not the blame. Bowler alone can't do anything if they are not used, nurtured and guided properly. Dhoni doesn't trust fast bowlers at all. It's beyond the believe that he carried Ishant for so long, Varun just came and Binny wasn't even given a chance to bowl. We don't have luxury of great fast bowlers but we still have a dissent bowlers who can at least match NZ's bowling. Praveen Kumar suddenly not seen anywhere. Seniors are disappeared from the scene who could advice bowler or captain with the field placement. If spinners are just containing the runs and not taking the wicket it automatically put pressure on fast bowlers. Please give chance to fast bowlers who are doing good in domestic circle and rotate them and most importantly trust and respect them! Please!

  • bhushan80 on January 28, 2014, 13:19 GMT

    We have to accept it, that with this bowling unit which rarely contend 300 runs of opposition, can't win World Cup in Aus/NW. On very bouncy pitches, we need Pujara to open with Rohit. My team: 1. Pujara 2. Rohit 3. Kohli 4. Rahane 5. Dhoni 6???? 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Shami 10.?? 11. ?? Don't find place for Dhawan, Raina, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Ishant. Need to test Binny more to be considered at no.6 position. Abhishek Nayar could also be good option. He has good swing. Bhuvi/ Umesh/ Vinay Kumar/New Talent can be a combination. Puajara is must to give the stability.

  • bsksara on January 28, 2014, 13:17 GMT

    Yes , totally agree with Dhoni, i have seen in many situations where the batsmen are under pressure and they were trying to defend and the need of that hour from our bowlers is to bowl straight at the stumps but many times Indian bowlers try hard and bowl down the legs or out side off stump giving away easy runs. that easy runs gives confident to bats and eases the pressure build. its very hard to win games without sustaining pressure on batsmen.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Who is the bowling coach of India now? It will be good if BCCI appoints some great former bowlers like Jason Gillespie or Waqar Younis as bowling coach before playing politics in ICC. Or bring in Zaheer Khan who can lead bowlers with his experience.

  • montado on January 28, 2014, 13:13 GMT

    Its kinda strange that MSD being captain still cannot identify the fast bowlers he will be taking to the WC, thats bcoz he has not bothered to unearth some talent from the pool of players playing in the Ranji Trophy. That does not matter to him. On that count he falls short of Ganguly who unearthed bowlers like Zaheer, Nehra, Ajit, RP Singh,etc. Poor captain in that regards is Dhoni.

  • class9ryan on January 28, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    If I remember Zaheer Khan ( who is considered to be one of the best produced by India ) actually spend some time in county cricket re-discovering his potential and re-inventing his bowling action and came back with a bang in international arena. Hardly players from India travel to UK to get their approach re-defined. I hope some of the Test team members to travel there before the England series later this year.

  • PPL11 on January 28, 2014, 13:08 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni you do have choices: You have sidelined, I. Pathan, P. Kumar, M. Patel, A. Nehra etc... etc... now if you groom young fast bowlers like B. Kumar, M. Shami, I. Pandey, V. Aron etc... etc... with one of the experienced guy then it will be much improved performance !!

  • Nero28 on January 28, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    And somebody will again comment here to bring ishant sharma or ashook dinda or mohit sharma after seeing this performance. Drop them from the team but people will say to bring them back after one ranji performance. Ishant hauled 9wicket in the very first game after dropped from the team. Vinay is performing in ranji. And so will be suggested to bring. How much of this come and go. In ranji trophy unadkat is also handy bowler. It is india's immature home batsmans for those. Selectors shouldn't look at this boring performances, but should grow talents, should look at in what way they are getting wicket. Ishant, dinda or the others bounce can get indian wickets only. India's bowlers with good brain and ability to read the away batsman weakness should be picked. Nz are good bowlers cause they bowls short to india to its weakpoint. But india's are worse cause they balls short which is easy hitting for the opposition. Time to work harder and go with your brain.

  • MAYURESHmagic on January 28, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    Hmmm... Problem with bowling, why? Because they get training of bowling as per paper not as per their strength and experience at domestic level. The bowling looks scripted and opposition always get sense of it. In case of India, bowler has to adjust his bowling according to scripted field settings. They were always on minority side when it comes to Indian cricket. There is no way India will win world-cup on the basis of batting. They won't survive against Australia and Africa on those pitches. They need bowlers who can bundle this teams below 250-200 on fast pitches or they have to chase 300 against 5 fast bowlers of opposition.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    Bowl 4 spinners in ODI Jadeja Ashwin Harbhajan Ojha. They will control and win more matches for India.

  • Naresh28 on January 28, 2014, 13:03 GMT

    When teams are consistently able to score 100's versus INDIA it shows poor BOWLERS.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    spinners are bowling well ? ha ha ha, oh sorry they are from CSK

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:02 GMT

    What does he mean by unlike the spin bowling dept????? ASHWIN who is lead spin bowler didn't take a single wicket!! It's all about taking wickets. No wickets No Win!! Very disappointed.

  • on January 28, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    Oh what an intelligent captain!! when india faced humilated defeats against Aus, Eng and loss to SA, he couldn't realize the strength of fast bowlers. No Indian fast bowler in Top 30 except Zak at 22 that tells the story!

  • couchpundit on January 28, 2014, 13:01 GMT

    Dhoni needs to understand..it always helps to have seniors like Zaheer Khan for youngsters to learn to improvise and read the game. People like Ishant Sharma will misdirect the youngsters and in any case he has nothing to guide them with his abject bowling skills. Bring in Zaheer atleast for 3 games in a 5 match series and let the youngsters learn from him.

  • Naresh28 on January 28, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    ZAK, YADAV and PANDEY are warming the benches. Change Bhuvi, Binny. Use Raina on flat tracks - we seem to have needed Raina's bowling today. We need to find an impact player like Yuvi. Winning is hard without him - he is sickly and lost form.

  • bowlingplan on January 28, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    as our bowlers are young and inexperienced they cannot think on their own to bowl in match.so the point is the indian bowlers should bowl with a plan against each of the opposition players.the main reason why we lose in england and australia was because they had plans against each of our batsmen.dhoni doent believe in offfield planning but now it has become essential as our bowlers are young and they cannot strategize on their own.the video analyst should be proactive and setup plans by which our bowlers have an idea about how to bowl.this kind of planning is very successfull as all batsmen will have some kind of weakness.the australian planning of bowling bouncers to trott and get pieterson on legside fields have avoided their major threats from these batsmen and the result,a whitewash.learn from that india.

  • ICCexpert.... on January 28, 2014, 12:53 GMT

    Dhoni should bring Bishen Singh Bedi and Hirwani back, they are both express bowlers bowing at over 150 kph....

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:49 GMT

    From an Aussie... Well played New Zealand... Huge win by a very good NZ ODI side over a strong Indian team. Thanks for easing us back to the top of the ICC One Day Rankings. Good luck in your final match and keep up that exceptional batting that we've been seeing lately from this Kiwi eleven. Kudos to Taylor, McCullum and Williamson for your great contributions to the NZ scoreline. Wish you all well in the forthcoming World Cup.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:45 GMT

    Zaheer Khan was a fantastic bowler, and smart too, where has he gone?

  • Humdingers on January 28, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    @ThePacifist10 - on what grounds can you say the batting has been fantastic? If it was, they would have chased the totals down with contributions from Dahwan, Nohit, Rahane etc. All round there are issues. Pujara has to be in the side. Moreover why the spotlight is not on Duncan Fletcher is beyond me.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:43 GMT

    Of-course what MS said is 100% correct,at the same time we need to observe that from many years india is depending on batting only to win the matches.We need zaheer in ODIs too.he's such a brilliant bowler..We don't have left arm fast bowler in the team,its always advantage if u have left arm bowlers in the team.i am confident that India will find a bunch of good fast bowlers before 2015 WC..I am sure defending champs will defend the WC.And in batting dep we need pujara,the one who can play a role of rahul dravid in ODIs.I am sure our men in blue will comeback strongly in short time and retain their 1st rank.Come-on guys we have faith on you..Love you MS and kohli.

  • amitdashore on January 28, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    bring back munaf, zaheer, PK, RP or even Vinay kumar! Rishi dhawan is bowling good, he gets no chance, dhawal kulkarni called up for series gets injured, mohit sharma n J unadkat, after one series in SA get dropped while players like dhawan, raina, rahane n rohit gets dragged after one-off 'good' performance! give bowlers also a longer run like shami. also drop Bhuvi if he is off this series n let I Pandey get a chance. S Binny after making a debut as all-rounder, didnt get to bat as Ashwin was promoted! also bowled only 1over! on a slow pitch which is helpful to spinners, raina gets dropped, while on the faster pitched like auckland or napier, Binny gets to warm the bench! rather than a poor performance by team, its poor performance by the captain! need to have confidence in right players, n need to trust the new-comers same way! also if Dravid can have such a successful ODI career, then why Pujara is being overlooked? need him to be the no 4, the team needs!

  • Sharath274 on January 28, 2014, 12:41 GMT

    Thank God.. finally Dhoni knows where the problem lies.. Zaheer Khan has to come back for sure..he seems to be in good shape and I think he can play the WC 2015 if he is taken care properly. Added to that, he can also mentor the younger crop of bowlers.. Very important to have a good bowling coach.. or else we will suffer.. any total that the team puts up seems insufficient these days. Spinners were able to tie things down in NZ, but need to see how they fare against better players of spin bowling..esp in conditions which is not helpful to them.. but power hitting down the line with fast bowling seems to be the major areas of concern which has to be addressed properly if we need to do well in Intl cricket in any form..

  • AjberPukkaattupady on January 28, 2014, 12:41 GMT

    As far as pacemen are concerned There is not much left in India leaving Rishi Dhavan to experiment.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    How difficult is it to find a genuine quality bowler with sense to use his brain and talent with a population of over 120 crores. Cricket is highly worshipped in india. Yet there is no sign of getting a consistant world class bowler .. With world cup nearing , i dont see any chance india defenting the world cup overseas with this kind of bowling performance. Appropriately said by dhoni.This is the big issue to worry .

  • Gladiatorthrone on January 28, 2014, 12:38 GMT

    I blame my own countrymen who selected such political influenced team or bad selection . Whatever just what Rohit sharma doing here,after so many chances he will keep failing and when it comes home he fires few hundreds and justifies. He's clearly not match winner not better than sehwag. His strike rate and calm lazy movement gives me blood pressure.For ODI:- 1.Shikhar Dhawan 2.Robin Uthappa 3.Virat kohli(VC)4.Rahane5.YuvrajSingh6.Raina7.Dhoni(C)8.Ashwin 9.Shami 10.Bhuv kumar 11.Unadkat (Sub) 12.Irfan pathan 13.Jadeja 14.ishwar pandey/zaheer 15.Dinesh karthick We have beautiful T20 side:- 1.Sehwag 2.Uthappa 3.Kohli 4.Yuvraj(VC) 5.Raina 6.Yusuf pathan 7.Dhoni(C) 8.Rahul sharma 9.Bhuv kumar 10.Shami 11.Irfan pathan sub 12.Dhawan 13.Jadeja 14.Mohit sharma 15.Binny Test side:- 1.Shikar dhawan 2.Vijay 3.Pujara(VC) 4.Rohit sharma 5.Virat kohli(C) 6.Badrinath 7.Dinesh karthick 8.Amit mishra 9.Zaheer khan 10.Shami 11.Ishwar pandey 12.Ishant sharma 13.Rahane 14.ashwin 15.Umesh yadav

  • colossalNORTH on January 28, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    We need to look at the a very good bowling coach for the team. Like what Craig McDermott is doing for Australia. Kyle Mills bowled around 130Km but had excellent length, so it is not a question of speed. Fast bowlers are neither adapting nor learning. This problem was quite visible even during home series against Australia where our batsmen had to consistently score 300plus to win matches.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    Its not that none of these bowlers are talented, the real problem is there is no one to mentor these new bees !!bhuvi can be moulded, shami looks promising except for the last couple of games, aaron??? definitely not of international caliber, would love to see umesh Yadav taking his place or can anyone say why he is out of the squad..We need to get zak of irfi back into the team to guide these young buds, without that it is going to be difficult for india or for MSD!!

  • Kirk_Levin on January 28, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Who will Indian fans ask for next? Saw bit of Varun and wasn't impressed. It's safe to say, India has one of the worst bowling line-up in world cricket.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    i dont think so that any of the indian fast bowler has any kind of talent....only shami seems to be ok kind of bowler, yet he needs to use his head as well....other he is a kind of a ordinary bowler....

  • ThePacifist10 on January 28, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    MSD raises some very valid points. The batting has been fantastic. Brilliant stuff from our batsmen. However our bowling is obviously a worry. Especially as our latest talent Shami seems to be veering off-course from what was originally planned for him. He can come back, but he has to really get his game together quickly. The upcoming Tests will provide nice helpful green surfaces for him to use. I hope he does well. I think out batsmen can cope. They demonstrated their resilience in SA. We did not win in SA primarily due to our bowling. The batting itself is good, though we may need to recruit the likes of Vijay and Pujara to bolster the line-up of Dhawan, Virat, Rohit, Rahane, MSD and Jadeja.

    There are, however, two big flaws that Dhoni himself committed. Why would he make Kohli open, when he is clearly more suited in the middle-order, where his wondrous successes lay? And why did he pick Binny if he wasn't going to let him bat or bowl? Talk about a waste of a debut.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    Iindian pace bowlers are poor, regardless who is picked. But on the batting front; when playing outside the subcontinent, why isn't Pujara opening in ODI

  • Fast_Track_Bully on January 28, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Shami, Bhuvaneswar are the 2 bowlers for WC team but not sure about 3rd seamer and backup seamer. Remember, Zak was in form last WC and well supported by Munaf and Nehra in patches. But India adjusted with spinners. But in abroad you need 3 in form fast bowlers. Not just supporting. Aaron is good. But we need to give him as many chances before WC. Forget about Ishant and Umesh who are test bowlers.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    Fast Bowlers are nurtured & developed...... But it seems Dhoni have some certain pool of players whom he is lookingup... Time is running out considering next world cup. Need to have some serious talent hunt in order to search really good talented bowlers who can carry India forward in next world cup & later...

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    thats true but varun aaron,shami and umesh yadav should be given more matches at a strech to get some rhythem.

  • Kirk_Levin on January 28, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    india is paying the price for consistently preparing flat pitches to help their batsman's. indians want big score, double centuries in flat pitches. but what about their bowlers? you need to produce pitches to help your bowlers as well. scoring runs and having a inflated average on flat pitches means nothing. No wonder, India gets hammered when ever they play overseas.

  • Sagarneel on January 28, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    In spite of all his arrogance and weird on-field tactics, I feel sorry for MSD. If you look at it closely, you can actually see how hopelessly bad our bowlers are! You cannot win matches with bowlers of such low caliber. Traditionally, bowling was never India's strong suit, but it has descended to newer depths of-late.

  • Narbavi on January 28, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    I just hope Praveen Kumar is watching this. We need him. A street smart bowler and he is someone who has bowled well in Australia before. Hope he makes a good comeback this year after his long injury lay off, and why not Zaheer Khan? He is so fit now after a long time, I personally think we can have him back in the ODI squad.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    Very Harsh words by MSD he is one of those guy who defend his teammates no matter what happens but with this untidy bowling effort for so long he is force to speak bowlers now better pick them self up or it would be very difficult for the team to perform overseas. I guess bowlers now start using their brain a little more.

  • jee1 on January 28, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    Why was Binny given only 1 over??And Rayudu bowled more than Binny!!

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  • jee1 on January 28, 2014, 12:05 GMT

    Why was Binny given only 1 over??And Rayudu bowled more than Binny!!

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:09 GMT

    Very Harsh words by MSD he is one of those guy who defend his teammates no matter what happens but with this untidy bowling effort for so long he is force to speak bowlers now better pick them self up or it would be very difficult for the team to perform overseas. I guess bowlers now start using their brain a little more.

  • Narbavi on January 28, 2014, 12:11 GMT

    I just hope Praveen Kumar is watching this. We need him. A street smart bowler and he is someone who has bowled well in Australia before. Hope he makes a good comeback this year after his long injury lay off, and why not Zaheer Khan? He is so fit now after a long time, I personally think we can have him back in the ODI squad.

  • Sagarneel on January 28, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    In spite of all his arrogance and weird on-field tactics, I feel sorry for MSD. If you look at it closely, you can actually see how hopelessly bad our bowlers are! You cannot win matches with bowlers of such low caliber. Traditionally, bowling was never India's strong suit, but it has descended to newer depths of-late.

  • Kirk_Levin on January 28, 2014, 12:17 GMT

    india is paying the price for consistently preparing flat pitches to help their batsman's. indians want big score, double centuries in flat pitches. but what about their bowlers? you need to produce pitches to help your bowlers as well. scoring runs and having a inflated average on flat pitches means nothing. No wonder, India gets hammered when ever they play overseas.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    thats true but varun aaron,shami and umesh yadav should be given more matches at a strech to get some rhythem.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:24 GMT

    Fast Bowlers are nurtured & developed...... But it seems Dhoni have some certain pool of players whom he is lookingup... Time is running out considering next world cup. Need to have some serious talent hunt in order to search really good talented bowlers who can carry India forward in next world cup & later...

  • Fast_Track_Bully on January 28, 2014, 12:27 GMT

    Shami, Bhuvaneswar are the 2 bowlers for WC team but not sure about 3rd seamer and backup seamer. Remember, Zak was in form last WC and well supported by Munaf and Nehra in patches. But India adjusted with spinners. But in abroad you need 3 in form fast bowlers. Not just supporting. Aaron is good. But we need to give him as many chances before WC. Forget about Ishant and Umesh who are test bowlers.

  • on January 28, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    Iindian pace bowlers are poor, regardless who is picked. But on the batting front; when playing outside the subcontinent, why isn't Pujara opening in ODI

  • ThePacifist10 on January 28, 2014, 12:29 GMT

    MSD raises some very valid points. The batting has been fantastic. Brilliant stuff from our batsmen. However our bowling is obviously a worry. Especially as our latest talent Shami seems to be veering off-course from what was originally planned for him. He can come back, but he has to really get his game together quickly. The upcoming Tests will provide nice helpful green surfaces for him to use. I hope he does well. I think out batsmen can cope. They demonstrated their resilience in SA. We did not win in SA primarily due to our bowling. The batting itself is good, though we may need to recruit the likes of Vijay and Pujara to bolster the line-up of Dhawan, Virat, Rohit, Rahane, MSD and Jadeja.

    There are, however, two big flaws that Dhoni himself committed. Why would he make Kohli open, when he is clearly more suited in the middle-order, where his wondrous successes lay? And why did he pick Binny if he wasn't going to let him bat or bowl? Talk about a waste of a debut.