Pakistan v England, 3rd test, Dubai, 4th day February 6, 2012

England must learn to play in Asia - Strauss

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Andrew Strauss has warned that England must learn the lessons of their 3-0 series whitewash at the hands of Pakistan or face more misery in Asian conditions.

England's 71-run loss in the third Test in Dubai condemned them to a 3-0 defeat in their first series since officially becoming ranked the No. 1 Test team. It was also the first series whitewash England had suffered since the 5-0 Ashes loss of 2006-07 and only the seventh in their history. With a two-Test tour to Sri Lanka coming up next month and a tour of India before Christmas, Strauss knows England have to improve in these conditions if they are to retain any hope of remaining the top-ranked side.

Strauss, England's Test captain, admitted that his team would do some "soul searching" over the coming days but insisted they would conduct a full debrief before making any decisions over the future of certain players. The positions of Ian Bell (who averaged 8.5 in the series), Kevin Pietersen (11.16) and Eoin Morgan (13.66) are all likely to come under scrutiny after England succumbed to their first series defeat since they lost to the West Indies in early 2009 and the first since Andy Flower was appointed to the position of permanent coach.

"We can't ignore this result and just say it's an aberration," Strauss said. "That would not help us. This was an eye-opener and a wake-up call and with two more tours on the subcontinent coming up, things won't get easier. We have to be up for this challenge.

"We have to look at the reasons we lost. We have to look at our preparation, our training, our techniques and our temperament. It would be wrong for us to ignore these things, but we also need to remain true to what has worked well in the past.

"No-one has a right to play for England forever. It would be patently wrong for us to think like that. But we also need to take time to let the dust settle. We need to look at what went wrong individually. Hopefully over the next week or two, things will become clearer.

"I have great faith in our batsmen," Strauss continued. "I think they are some of best be in world, but I am disappointed we haven't coped better. I haven't been involved in a series where so many batsmen have had a hard time. We all have some questions to answer and soul searching into how we can do things better. There was a consistent failure on our part. If you keep getting bowled out for 140 or 150 you're not going to win many Test matches. We could and should have been better."

Andy Flower, the England coach, suggested the long lay-off his players had enjoyed before the series might have been a contributory factor to the result. Before this tour England had not played Test cricket since the series against India finished in August last year and no cricket at all since the limited-overs series in October.

"Looking back now, I don't think we were ready," Flower said. "I shoulder that side of the blame because it was my decision to give them that time off. We won't let that happen again.

"We spent a couple of months out of the game and not doing a lot while Pakistan were beating Sri Lanka and working hard to beat Bangladesh and that hardened them up for this contest. Certainly during that rest time, our team and support staff were all being lauded and, while that was happening, Pakistan were working hard at their game and beating international opposition. Consequently one side was sharp and ready and one side wasn't and we've got to do something about that."

Flower also expressed his faith in the batting line-up, but confessed he was surprised at how they had struggled in the series. "We do have a lot of faith in our players and that faith has been justified over a long period of time," he said. "But we've obviously underperformed here badly. I've been surprised by how poorly we've batted.

"We have to take the lessons that have been learned here and improve our skills and improve out method for the Sri Lanka tour. A number of our big players have underperformed in this series. It was the first time that so many of our established Test crickets were out of runs and not feeling as confident as they usually do and not as clear in their method as they usually are."

Misbah-ul-Haq, meanwhile, said the whitewashing of England has sent "a strong message that the Pakistan team are back in cricket."

Pakistan's captain hailed his side's "wonderful achievement" after leading them to victory in the third Test. It was the fifth time that Pakistan had achieved a whitewash in a series of three matches or more.

Victory was especially sweet for Misbah given the context in which the series was played. The previous time these teams met, in 2010, the series was soured by allegations of corruption that subsequently led to three of the Pakistan team receiving jail sentences. The episode tarnished the reputation of Pakistan cricket and forced the side to rebuild with a new captain and several new players. Now, however, Misbah feels Pakistan cricket is in the news for the right reasons.

"We showed that we are a power in the cricketing world again," Misbah said. "Now is the time to give importance to the Pakistan team again. It is a wonderful thing for us. I can't describe in words how important this series was for our team.

"We just came out of such problems. But the way we have come out and the way we are progressing is wonderful. Everyone was ignoring us, but now they have to look at Pakistan cricket."

Pakistan, who were dismissed for just 99 on the first day of this game, also became the first team since 1907 to win a Test after being bowled out for under 100 in the first innings. Pakistan responded by limited England's first innings lead to 42, before centuries from Azhar Ali and Younis Khan seized the initiative for the hosts.

"Our bowlers did a wonderful job," Misbah said. "They cut down the lead and we knew that, if we were only behind by 100 on the first innings, we were still in the game. Then Azhar Ali and Younis Khan batted wonderfully. Their batting was the main thing that brought us back into the game."

Having proved their potency in these conditions, Misbah agreed that his team would be defined by their success overseas. "That's another challenge," Misbah said, "but this team loves challenges. We have it in our mind. We are focused on proving ourselves outside Pakistan.

"If you saw us in New Zealand, though, you would know we can do it. Conditions there were not easy for our team, but we performed well there and in the West Indies. We are looking forward to playing in South Africa and Australia and we will start our preparation now."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    @Those who claim that English dont make excuses.. hmm.. The biggest excuse I hv heard so far is "Who cares abt ODI game/ODI WC..??" after their 5-0 loss in Ind.. And every1 knws which team is that.. dont u..?? lol..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    I don't understand how Eng batsmen go out of form all of a sudden.. Accept the fact.. They hv never proved themselves in Asian conditions.. And this failure is expected..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    @Nicholas Saunders.. What do u mean by "no excuses".?? Wt do u call "no play for long time"..?? Speculation abt Ajmal's action..?? "Better than Indian defeat overseas".?? "Oh.. We r not yet 8-0"..?? "Bell - Out of form"..?? Its these kinda statements made by Indians r called as excuses by so called pundits of game.. Ofcourse.. they cant make Injury excuses coz, they played with their first choice XI and full strength bowling attack unlike Indians.. And, Eng cant say "wait till u come back to Eng".. Coz, they hv already been to Eng and got deserved result.. Now, its pay back time for Asian teams.. lol..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    No "fighting hard" team is expected to lose a test match chasing 140+ in 130+ overs.. There is no fight back from this team @ all.. Period..

  • on February 7, 2012, 19:53 GMT

    Pleased to see no excuses and no mention of "when we get them back to England". I can think of 1 team in recent times who uses this as a regular excuse. Pleased to hear Strauss talking about playing in Asia as important, again unlike some others I could mention.

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    @ WeeBee on (February 07 2012, 06:54 AM GMT) Eng U19 were defeated in Bangladesh as were the Lions I believe. However the Lions just beat the Sri Lankan 2nd 11 - But of course your factual economy doesn't stretch that far

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    @Posted by Sutharman Paskaran on (February 07 2012, 04:38 AM GMT) respect . Nail on head my friend

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (February 07 2012, 03:48 AM GMT) They could have brought in an in form bowler (Finn) for an out of form batsman. It is a worry but hopefully the SL bowling isn't as good as the Pak bowling and England will not be so fearful. Are you an Indian/SL or Pak fan BTW? Re our batting , well India's famed and proven batting line up disintegrated in England and then they keep playing pretty much the same team in Aus and it seemed that they were scared to drop any of the batsman who had performed well yesteryear but were on a downward spiral. So much so that many Indian fans lost patience. As an England fan I could see the same thing happening. The thing

  • GreenTeam-Elite on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    In my Opinion Strauss is a Down to Earth Person & Captain. Win / Lose is not a Big Issue It is Part of Our Life. We Should Just Learn from Our Loses and Welcome the New Bright Morning Where ALLAH Will also Help Us. Good Luck Strauss!!!

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    @Chris Ward on (February 07 2012, 00:24 AM GMT) Sorry bud. Before the series started Morgan was the last guy I'd have had in there. But Bell has just become worse and worse. At least Morgan was being positive and being ultra cautious wasn't working for him in the series anyway. In fact the only 2 batsmen who at times looked good playing that way were Trott and Cook and both are that sort of player anyway. KP and Morgan both looked less vulnerable when they learnt to come down the pitch. If I felt that batting got easier by playing ultra cautiously at first I'd agree but they looked to get more and more bogged down. I always said a 5 man bowling attack even before we started failing and Bres would add a little more (on paper) batting but Bell would be the one to go. Agree re our bowling. They must feel really peeved to come out on the wrong side of a ww after the effort they put in

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:32 GMT

    @Those who claim that English dont make excuses.. hmm.. The biggest excuse I hv heard so far is "Who cares abt ODI game/ODI WC..??" after their 5-0 loss in Ind.. And every1 knws which team is that.. dont u..?? lol..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:30 GMT

    I don't understand how Eng batsmen go out of form all of a sudden.. Accept the fact.. They hv never proved themselves in Asian conditions.. And this failure is expected..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    @Nicholas Saunders.. What do u mean by "no excuses".?? Wt do u call "no play for long time"..?? Speculation abt Ajmal's action..?? "Better than Indian defeat overseas".?? "Oh.. We r not yet 8-0"..?? "Bell - Out of form"..?? Its these kinda statements made by Indians r called as excuses by so called pundits of game.. Ofcourse.. they cant make Injury excuses coz, they played with their first choice XI and full strength bowling attack unlike Indians.. And, Eng cant say "wait till u come back to Eng".. Coz, they hv already been to Eng and got deserved result.. Now, its pay back time for Asian teams.. lol..

  • karthik_raja on February 9, 2012, 8:00 GMT

    No "fighting hard" team is expected to lose a test match chasing 140+ in 130+ overs.. There is no fight back from this team @ all.. Period..

  • on February 7, 2012, 19:53 GMT

    Pleased to see no excuses and no mention of "when we get them back to England". I can think of 1 team in recent times who uses this as a regular excuse. Pleased to hear Strauss talking about playing in Asia as important, again unlike some others I could mention.

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    @ WeeBee on (February 07 2012, 06:54 AM GMT) Eng U19 were defeated in Bangladesh as were the Lions I believe. However the Lions just beat the Sri Lankan 2nd 11 - But of course your factual economy doesn't stretch that far

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    @Posted by Sutharman Paskaran on (February 07 2012, 04:38 AM GMT) respect . Nail on head my friend

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    @satish619chandar on (February 07 2012, 03:48 AM GMT) They could have brought in an in form bowler (Finn) for an out of form batsman. It is a worry but hopefully the SL bowling isn't as good as the Pak bowling and England will not be so fearful. Are you an Indian/SL or Pak fan BTW? Re our batting , well India's famed and proven batting line up disintegrated in England and then they keep playing pretty much the same team in Aus and it seemed that they were scared to drop any of the batsman who had performed well yesteryear but were on a downward spiral. So much so that many Indian fans lost patience. As an England fan I could see the same thing happening. The thing

  • GreenTeam-Elite on February 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    In my Opinion Strauss is a Down to Earth Person & Captain. Win / Lose is not a Big Issue It is Part of Our Life. We Should Just Learn from Our Loses and Welcome the New Bright Morning Where ALLAH Will also Help Us. Good Luck Strauss!!!

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    @Chris Ward on (February 07 2012, 00:24 AM GMT) Sorry bud. Before the series started Morgan was the last guy I'd have had in there. But Bell has just become worse and worse. At least Morgan was being positive and being ultra cautious wasn't working for him in the series anyway. In fact the only 2 batsmen who at times looked good playing that way were Trott and Cook and both are that sort of player anyway. KP and Morgan both looked less vulnerable when they learnt to come down the pitch. If I felt that batting got easier by playing ultra cautiously at first I'd agree but they looked to get more and more bogged down. I always said a 5 man bowling attack even before we started failing and Bres would add a little more (on paper) batting but Bell would be the one to go. Agree re our bowling. They must feel really peeved to come out on the wrong side of a ww after the effort they put in

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    @Meety on (February 07 2012, 00:23 AM GMT) - Probably nail on the head there. To me Bell is a confidence player and right now his confidence looks shot. I feel that dropping him and bringing him back will do him and England more good than keeping him in there in the hope he regains some form/confidence but where I feel the likelihood is that he'll fail more and his confidence will be further damaged

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:58 GMT

    @jackiethepen on (February 07 2012, 00:01 AM GMT) So different policy for batsmen and bowlers then - that's fair?

  • JG2704 on February 7, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    @donda on (February 06 2012, 22:52 PM GMT) Agree re Flower's comms although Strauss doesn't seem to be singing from the same hymnsheet on that one. He has not blamed lack of prep etc. Also I'm slightly annoyed that Flower said "This won't happen again" as if he can just turn the batsman's form off and on. Also read on here that they went on some boot camp in India etc. I always read about all the prep they do etc so the "We were not ready" excuse sounds feeble to me. Maybe they could have prepared differently - a certain sort of prep to play in Australia or SA might be different from what's required to play here or in SC.

  • on February 7, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    Strauss and England team can now shut up and play good cricket the white wash shows their inability to play on turning track. they beat a depleted Australian team and a terrible Indian team and became World no 1..few more subcontinent tours and they will finish at the bottom of the table.

  • zico123 on February 7, 2012, 17:47 GMT

    England stripped India off no. 1 ranking, and now they themselves faced a humiliating 3-0 whitewash, they don't deserve the no. 1 ranking as well.

  • zico123 on February 7, 2012, 17:16 GMT

    Great achievement for Pakistan, it was a perfect revenge for what happened when they were in England last time

  • rayfanatics on February 7, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    One person conspicuous by his absence is 5wombats, the man who unnecessarily dug his own grave in hyping up a pretty mediocre english team. As with typical English denial, Andy Flower says we didn't have enough practice. Atleast like English teams of the past, they didn't even have the excuse of the dust, heat and gastroenteritis. All said and done, SL's bowling attack is not as potent as Pakistan's, and it will be an evenly contested series in the Emerald Isle of Asia.

  • on February 7, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    lol @ WPDDESILVA. Yes I think Sri Lanka vs England will be a more even contest.

  • KricketWicket on February 7, 2012, 14:18 GMT

    If India think they can prepare rank turners and skittle this English side in home conditions, they need to quickly change their minds. It is worth noting that there may not be much difference between the English and Indian spinners (in fact looking at the quality of spinners in India, the English spinners may even be better). English batsmen are allright with traditional spinners, it is the mystery that was their undoing against Pakistan. And I am sure that when England come to India, they will be mentally, skill wise and preparation wise, much better equiped. Also, the English seam attack can do quite a lot of damage even on sub-continental tracks. Don't be surprise if England beat India in India. Although, Sri Lanka (with Mendis, Herath & Randiv) may be a different cup of tea altogether.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on February 7, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    The worst thing for England is that none of the pitches could be called turning ones and the conditions were relatively benign. They were undone by a large dose of complacency and what looked like a lack of planning as to preparing against the sort of bowling they would face. This is probably the biggest shock of a Test series result for years and I am sure England will be less blasé when they go to Sri Lanka.

  • Whip on February 7, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    Pakistan spinners are far better than those in Sri Lanka and India. So, England will easily put 300-400 runs on board. Strauss need not over-react.

  • on February 7, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    England are truly and undoubtedly "Green Track Bullies"... rofl

  • StatisticsRocks on February 7, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    Dhoni should learn from Strauss the type of comments a captain makes after being white washed and not send Ashwin to say we r not embarassed. Look how serious Eng are in making changes and not hesitating to drop the not-in-form star batsmen. Can India think of dropping SRT, no WAY. Even if the same Eng team tours India later this year, I am sure we won't be able to do what Pak did to Eng. We just do not have quality bowlers and when are we going to realize this. In fact this year Eng will register their first series win in India unless India make some drastic changes. I surely hope to see cricket being played in Pak as they have one of the most passionate fans in World Cricket.

  • KhalidKhan.Jeddah.Arabia on February 7, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    MUHAMMAD AAMIR HAS INDEED GOT THE PUNISHMENT FOR HIS MISTAKE.HE IS TO BE FORGIVEN.HE'LL BE A HUGE EXAMPLE FOR THE YOUNGSTERS IF HE COMES BACK TO THE NATIONAL COLORS, THEY'LL LEARN THE CLEAR CONCEPT OF MAKING MISTAKES & GETTING APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENTS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO HARM TO BRING HIM BACK TO TEAM PAKISTAN ONCE HE SERVES THE BAN. HE HAS BEEN A VERY RARE TALENT & ONE INSIGNIFICANT MISTAKE DONE BY A TEENAGER MUST NOT RUIN THIS TALENT AT ALL.HE'LL BE A TREAT TO WATCH AGAIN WHEN GLOBAL BATSMEN WILL HOP ON HIS THUNDERBOLTS.HE WAS LURED INTO THIS MINOR MISTAKE BY SOME SEASONED CROOKS. THE PROFESSIONAL CHEATS SUCCEEDED IN CHEATING SOME TALENT OUT OF PAKISTANI CRICKET-FOLDS BUT NOW THEY'VE THEIR FINGERS VERY HARDLY CROSSED DUE TO THE INTEGRITY & GRIT SHOWN BY THE SAME DISINTEGRATED CRICKETERS AFTER THAT SPOT-FIXING SAGA. COME BACK AAMIR… WORLD CRICKET NEEDS YOU MORE THAN PAK.CRICKET TEAM…GOOD LUCK TO YOU…WE ALL WISH YOU WELL & WELCOME BACK SOON IN-SHA-ALLAH...KHALID UMAR KHAN…JEDDAH/KSA

  • bhrangi on February 7, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    @Valavan : We are not yawning like we will win ENG as PAK did comfortably. We are just telling that ENG is ordinary / worst team as IND in over seas. that's it and it is proved. Strauss didn't give any excuses, because almost every fan knows that ENG always poor in spinning tracks, but IND played well before and got the test series in ENG. I will rate IND as better team compared to ENG in overseas.

  • SatyajitM on February 7, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Frankly it makes me happy seeing England whitewashed. Even after England's whitewash of India I never thought them to be an exceptional team. They are just a very good team in conditions which help them. @Marktc, it is naive to say the point system is doesn't make sense. Actually it does. It just shows that there is no real champion team at the moment. Just like any other sport any team or person has to win continuously to earn point which take them to the top. Djokovic didn't become world no1 the day he started playing like a champion, he had to sustain it for a long period. You first play, win and then your rating improve, not the other way round. Ind played well enough for a period to become and stay no1 for some time. Eng played well to become no1 but may lose it pretty quickly. If Pak can keep playing like this they can alos become no1 (already they have come very close to top ranked teams). But none is these teams are like Aus team 5 years back or WI of eighties.

  • ajaypathak on February 7, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    currently no team in world is good for NO.1 position, if Asian teams struggling in eng or aus they also struggle in subcontinent, S.africa is also not great to be no.1 they also stay may be 5 or 6 months if become no.1 team.

  • ajaypathak on February 7, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Not just england but Aus is also not good team right now, they not win against india because they are very good, but they win because india play very bad, if this Aus team also come to PAK, SL OR IND, they also face same position like ENG. they are far behind from true No.1 team in the world.

  • RandyOZ on February 7, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Where is the likes of @landl47? I suppose he cannot see the monitor because he is still wiping the egg off of his face.

  • topeleven on February 7, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    Well played Pakistan... They deserve the victories. As far as England is concerned they played with right spirit but too much defensive. The last two test matches were in their grasp but let the chances go. But strauss doesn't have to worry to much as normally England plays spin poorly be home or away. He can take a clue from Virendar Shewag while attending press conference.... Had it been him he would simply said we beat them 2-1 when they visited our country.....ha ha but Strauss is not a nonsense person to say that either.....Try well to do better in Srilanka

  • on February 7, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    I wish they wouldn't worry. England is an excellent team, and being whitewashed by us doesn't necessarily translate into a similar beating by Srilanka and India. They both boast much better batting lineups than ours but they make it up with bowling attacks that are not half as lethal as the one we have at this point in time. I agree that it will not be easy at all, but it won't be impossible either. They need to remind themselves of the good things, like Stuart Broad's transformation from a petulant and ineffective pacer to a canny bowler on Asian wickets, like the fact that Cook, Trott and Prior have all shown that till they lost patience, they had been unfettered, and lastly, that they bowled us out everytime on these pitches, while South Africa and Srilanka failed to do so. I think Morgan deserves faith, and so does KP, who has begun to look better over the course of this tour. We Pakistanis are very proud of having beaten this amazing team so comprehensively.

  • Marktc on February 7, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    Top lose 1 test was a fluke- a whitewash is worrying if you are holding the number 1 position. Well played to Pakistan. This shows how inaccurate the point system is. To be true Number 1, you need to win or at least draw, in all conditions. The much anticipated series against South Africa (2) and England(1) will lose some credibility because of this loss.

  • WPDDESILVA on February 7, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    Come on England! Don't worry too much about this whitewash. When you come to Sri Lanka we will give your pride back mate. With our pathetic bowling attack you guys can put some big scores and some big hundreds and regain your pride in no time. Sri Lanka is a very welcoming country. We help the vulnerable!! Don't sweat it too much. You'llbe alright!! :-)

  • haroonalvi on February 7, 2012, 9:57 GMT

    I would love to see South Africa whitewash New Zealand to become the world number 1 side and then get whitewashed by England in the tour after........to continue the no. 1 side whitewash curse.

  • stormy16 on February 7, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    Pakistan should be playing this level cricket all the time - they have such a talented team it is of no real surprise that they beat Eng comprehensively. With some of the young batsman showing some maturity I see Pakistan being a real force but this is nothing new or a surprise. Even if the wickets were seamer freindly they have a decent crop of fast bowlers to be a force. Consistency has always been Pakistan's issue and finally they are showing some real consistency. Pretty amazing from a team where international cricket is not played at! As for England its accepting the reality that their record outside Eng (recently in Aus) is poor at best and its no different to say India in England.

  • AlbertEinstein on February 7, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    Thanks to the English team and management for playing this series in the right spirit. Even though you lost, you have won several hearts in Pakistan by giving respect to the opposition and losing with dignity.

  • prashkannam on February 7, 2012, 9:16 GMT

    pPOMMIESS....MUAAAHH.....U GUYS R BEATEN ON BROWN TRACKS.....HEY HEY U DON \DESREVE NO 1 RANKING!!!

  • on February 7, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    Well Done Pakistan!!! Excellent performances by Younis, Rehman, Ajmal, Gul and Azhar Ali. England need to improve against spinners and practice harder as this year they will mostly play in the sub- continent!!! They need to organise camps for the batsman in the Indian or Sri-Lankan conditions. Bowlers bowled well for England as they got Pakistan for even less than 100. This shows that batsmen need to improve in sub-continent conditions. ICC needs to revise their rating system as if survey taken out since 2007, most teams have won playing only at their home countries. So the ICC needs to give more points to those who are playing in away conditions and winning!!!

  • yocasi on February 7, 2012, 9:06 GMT

    S. Africa did score 96 in their first innings vs Australia in 2011, then bowled the Aussies out for 47. Just saw the highlights on youtube so please correct your error, Cricinfo. Maybe you meant to say first innings of the test, rather than a particular team's first innings

  • Stumps1968 on February 7, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    As an England supporter I have to say all credit to Pakistain, totally out played England. And yes England had moments but were never in a good position in any off the tests. I hope that the board learn from this and schedule more main and 'A' team tours to countries with slow turning pitches but the truth is if they can't make money they won't go. The best team in the world must be able to play in all conditions and at the moment any one of 5 teams can claim to be the best when at home but they all look fragile when out of their comfort zone.

  • on February 7, 2012, 8:50 GMT

    @adithya ... well india may have spinning tracks but u need world class spinners to spin it and India is deprived of such talent.

  • sathishvaiju on February 7, 2012, 8:40 GMT

    @Akshay Maslekar - Oh my friend, don't underestimate Indian team, the same india white washed England 5 - 0 in ODI series happened in India - My dear friend watch out CB series in Aus , India will win this series by making Aussies and SL down. I hope u r also an indian , let's support our guys dude they will win. If England comes to india for test series another 4-0 whitewash is predictable Ind 4 - Eng 0.

  • atuljain1969 on February 7, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    How similar, India needs to learn to play Down under & England while Australian & England need to ;earn to play in subcontinent.

    While everybody forgets that, lot of cricket is played in others backyard regularly may be thru 20-20 or one day. Only in test matches these teams are failing simply because, it is becoming extremely difficlut for them to play for long hours in unhomely conditions. In one dayers & 20-20, pitches do not play that important role, but in tests , home team preapare the pitches as per their strength

  • on February 7, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    come out vaughan and hussain....even england is not fit to be in no.1 spot...u bite the dust...show ur faces to the indian media now!

  • Aussasinator on February 7, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    These days no team seems to be capable of playing outside their home conditions. and among them South Africa even has the knack of losing winning games in their own conditions, as they lost a last test to Australia recently.

  • kingcommentator on February 7, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    its funny how just a few months ago england were high sailing and now all of a sudden there worlds come tumbling down, mind you their still number 1 for now at least!

  • llchennai on February 7, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    Andy Flower was hailed as the best coach and a strategist with a golden touch when India lost 4-0 in England where Duncan had to keep his cool. Vaughan and Nasser Hussain said England will retain the top slot in Tests for many more years because this is THE best English combination ever played. Where are all these guys now? What happened to their Best combination? They forgot that all lions are strong in their own dens. England needed substantial rain breaks, moist air, green tops and cool atmosphere to achieve 4-0. In the absence of these conditions, 0-3 is a result which will awaken them and the British media. Pakistanis are regrouping very well and I wish they play some good matches in India as early as politics permits.

  • on February 7, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    yippee its so good good to see the team(England) which defeated us(India) 4-0 to loose to Pakistan 3-0

  • Valavan on February 7, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    Well done Pakistan. An eye opener for England. England should learn how to play in asian wickets, probably they must recruit some Ex Pakistan or SL Player to mentor the team during asian assignments. Why indians yawning here, Strauss never gave any excuse, well if India prepares slow turners, its ok, but who will spin it well, Ashwin??? do india have any decent seamer similar to Gul. just 1 billion indians are hoping for a test turn around back in home. Sehwag, gambhir, BCCI chairman, Kohli and Ishanth sharma's attitude in recent series shows their overall attitude. No words but loosers. cricinfo please publish

  • zenboomerang on February 7, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    Flower's comments show he is running from the truth... Oz didn't play a Test from Jan 7th until Aug 31st (nearly 8mths) in SL & won that series... SA 10mths break last year - drawn series... Flower, the answer is easy to find - Eng have come up against its first decent bowling unit since 2009... Simple as that... The batsmen haven't had to deal with an on-song bowling unit for more than 1 Test in years - & when they have lost a match it was treated as a hiccup... Expect alot more hiccups in the future... SA will be much tougher this year with arguably the best pace attack atm & batsmen in form...

  • on February 7, 2012, 7:36 GMT

    Haha funny how Indians are celebrating this whitewash.. theres a major difference though; both side turned up for this series and Pakistan won and won convincingly at times. But it was a good cricket series. India played like a school team in England and Australia and got trashed!

  • SalilPillai on February 7, 2012, 7:28 GMT

    Thanks George Dobell! Can I get to hear something from the "great" English batsmen Nasser Hussain & Michael Vaughan on this whitewash? :D They were great entertainers during India toured England 5 months back.

  • on February 7, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    u should face hard track in india spinners too.......

  • Rooboy on February 7, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    Congrats Pakistan. I thought the test was done as a contest after the first hour when they were 5/21. You don't get twists and turns like that in T20, and this is why test cricket is the real cricket. Interesting comparison too between the statements being made by the two teams that have been recently whitewashed ... one team seems to want to learn from their mistakes, the other wants to bury their head in the sand because all that matters to them is having a good record at home. I know which attitude I would back as being more successful in the long run

  • Fast_Track_Bully on February 7, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Ooo la la la.... where are the no:1 supporters?...now it is proved that England got no:1 by luck only...do not hope mercy from a humiliated Lankan and Indian test sides...more results like this to follow, I bet.

  • pitch_curator on February 7, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    I think currently all the top teams are so closely matched that the pitch conditions are determining the results and because of the nature of modern batsmen these kind of whitewashes are happening way too often. Australia and South Africs seem to be the only teams who can compete in all conditions. I think ICC should introduce a policy where the curator for the visting team prepares the pitches..this would even out things a bit...

  • MadanMohan1234 on February 7, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    England also lost 5-0 to India in ODI series. Looks to me, there is no clear cut winner in cricket, like how it was the case earlier with West Indies and Australia. I think among the top teams, any team can beat the other on its day.

  • sweetspot on February 7, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    Let me put the words in your mouth Andy Flower - "We need to get a clue against quality spin bowling". Let me put a few more if you like - "We need to stop yapping like we're a great team".

  • Tiger-Khan on February 7, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    this was the most difficult test for England..should get easier in Srilanka & India with below par bowling attacks...England to beat Srilanka 1-0 and draw with India 1-1 in india...

  • WeeBee on February 7, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    Well! .. Lets see what English comes up with on the English test series "tour" of srilanka and india. English under 19 players also got defeated in bangladesh! . I think now Asian countries have understood how to tackle Outside asians and how to develop their pitches. Welldone Pakistan ... i pray for this team cause whenever they were cornered , they came up with roaring voice.

  • on February 7, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    Wow, Ian bell score 8 per innings, Peterson 11 and Morgan 12 , Pakistan has surely done what other asian teams are waiting to do. Green track ,swing and cold is now changed to brown track, spin and heat. So sad that the first series a No 1 team plays after becoming No1 is in this way. India must learn lessons from this defeat, it shows that No 3, 4, 5 are the most important in any test team, you cant have reputations and not do the job. Also England will go back wiser and come back stronger, India better prepare your middle order right now by testing it in Aus, else you may be the first asian team to whitewashed in their own backyard in the last decade,

  • geocric on February 7, 2012, 6:44 GMT

    I am an Indian cric fanatic, but love the game whoever plays it, Pls guys give credit to pakistan the way they played and the way they bounced back after all the allegations of match fixing, we know now that we will not come across games which pak was supoosed to win but end up loosing, thx to the ICC for therir actions against match fixing. Pakistan in full form is a force to reckon, if not do it at your peril.

    For the pommies learn to take wining and loosing in the right way, when you won the ashes you guys over enjoyed it with your celebrations, just imagine if the AUSSIES do the same everytime they kick your ass, they dont over do with their celebrations, when you loose you guys winge, cry and look for simpathy. Pommies grow up, you guys dont rule the world anymore. The only credit you guys deserve is to introduce this beautiful game CRICKET to the world, but when you loose the game you invented to an outsider just give credit to them, when you win just enjoy it, dont over do,

  • honestno2 on February 7, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    If God ask me to choose b/w world cup or whitewash over England then I will select 2nd option 100 out of 100 times..........

  • on February 7, 2012, 6:34 GMT

    excuses excuses and more excuses...sore losers...never give credit to opposition...blaming lack of cricket or too much of cricket...lame excuse.

  • on February 7, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    England team needs a refresh their fighting spirit in Asian countries for the future of English cricket. Managements should do a great job to support their players against the spin attacks as Asian teams are expert in this type of bowling. its the time to rebuild the team's spirit. Best of luck English team next time.

  • unregisteredalien on February 7, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    @CricketDiwana, rather than quoting "conventional wisdom" that Australian pitches are green - which is a myth created by fans of subcontinental teams - if you'd been paying attention you would know that Australian pitches DO give a fair chance to both bat and ball. Some bounce, some swing, some turn, most offer a combination plus the opportunity for plenty of run-scoring. The most helpful pitch for fast men is the WACA and anyone who calls that a greentop is colourblind.

  • rahulcricket007 on February 7, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    I DON'T THINK INDIAN SPINNERS WILL TROUBLE ENGLISH BATSMEN . OUR SELCTORS WANTS TO PLAY WITH ASHWIN WHO CAN'T BOWL DOOSRA . HE MAINLY BOWLS ARM BALL OR CARRROM BALL WHICH IS EASILY PLAYED BY BATSMEN . IT'S TIME TO GIVE HARBHAJAN ANOTHER CHANCE . HE CAN BOWL DOOSRA & IS AN AGGRESIVE CRICKETER & GOOD FIELDER ALSO . WHILE ASHWIN IS AN EXPENSIVE SPINNER & A VERY BAD FIELDER . ALSO THOSE WHO R SAYING SL SPINNRS ARE BAD SHOULD KNOW THEY STILL HAVE HERATH IN THEIR TEAM & HE HAS ALL WEAPONS TO TAKE WKTS .

  • cricket_fan_1980 on February 7, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    well played England, this was a tightly contested series, yes it is a series whitewash but true fans of cricket (including those of the Pakistan team, like myself) will remember that your boys fought and they fought hard. And, I wish you luck to strike back. Well done Pakistan, you have done us proud. Now, overseas, lets win some games!

  • on February 7, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    @Sutharman Paskaran - a whitewash is a whitewash and these many moments that England had here even India had in Eng lords and trent bridge so dont make stupid claims . The fact is England our fast and boucy track bullies they may survive in Sri Lanka but not in India we are waiting to thrash you .How many times has andy flower or strauss going to say we have got to learn to play in Asia i am hearing this for so long when will they learn

  • on February 7, 2012, 6:00 GMT

    Pakistan has proved their worth indeed. For once everyone should accept and give them credit for their accomplishment.

    Next objective is to improve seam bowling, batting on bouncy and pacey wickets and especially catching.

    Looking forward to the ODI and T20 series.

  • on February 7, 2012, 5:52 GMT

    It's interesting to note that a lot of people take far greater joy from the fact that England were beaten than that Pakistan won... Gentlemen, please remember that the game is cricket. It is not bloody football, nor a religious epiphany. As Mr Sutharman Paskaran says so well; with the exception of the first Test, England fought hard yet were beaten by a thoroughly professional Pakistan. Where England lost was #4, 5 & 6. Pakistan exploded the myth that is Kevin Petersen, exploited the mental and technical weaknesses of an overrated Bell and proved that Morgan isn't ready for Test cricket, at least Ajmal and Rehman did and fulll credit to them and their captain Misbah for doing so! However, it is easily realised that it wouldn't have taken much of a contribution from one or two of these batsmen and England would have won the last two tests and this series with it

  • vamshi_teamindia on February 7, 2012, 5:39 GMT

    ENGLAND CANT PLAY IN ASIA!! YOURS IS THE WORST TEAM AGAINST SPIN!! DONT EVEN DREAM OF NO.1 IN ANY FORMAT U DONT DESERVE IT ENGLAND!!

  • Pv2k1sa on February 7, 2012, 5:36 GMT

    how long will England stay on top?

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-23/top-stories/29918210_1_ian-botham-england-players-england-captain

  • on February 7, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    As far as series with Sri Lanka and India is concerned, they do not have a classy spin attack with the likes of Hafeez, Rehman & Ajmal so they will find very difficult to beat England who are facing them after a humiliating performance by a No. 1 Test Team.

  • on February 7, 2012, 5:22 GMT

    They should have dropped Morgan for Ravi Bopara but I think they want to encash Morgan first as they have picked him from other country and done a lot of expenses on him. Secondly, if I am not wrong, KP was also dropped from one day series in 2010 vs Pakistan because he was not able to perform in the test series. You guys may think him as a great batsman but in front of Pakistan, he is not so good at all.

  • chin-music on February 7, 2012, 5:22 GMT

    For all Indian fans gloating at England's misery - please note the contrast in team reactions. A.Strauss : "We can't ignore this result and just say it's an aberration, ...No-one has a right to play for England forever" . MS Dhoni (& rest of team India) : " It is an aberration ... it's injuries .. green tops ... i won 2-0 ten years back ... comd to my backyard & i will show you ..etc ..etc". No prizes for guessing who will fight his way out of a slump faster.

  • Percy_Fender on February 7, 2012, 5:20 GMT

    England was bound to fail in conditions that are not like their own at home. Pakistan is a very good side at the moment with the world's best spin combination. Ajmal is quite simply the best spin bowler in the world in conditions where his craft gets some encouragement. He may be tested in English and Australian conditions though. In younis Khan they also have a great batsman of the Inzamam genre.The point is that all this talk by pompous English commentators about sub continent teams not being able to play in English or Australian conditions is ridiculous because it is the same with other teams visiting the sub continent.I hope the Nassers and the Lloyds of this world will remember that to be called champions, they need to excel in all conditions. Or even if excelling is not possible, at least equal the opposition.Barring West Indies in their pomp and Australia to a lesser extent, no team has done well in Asian conditions. And this is where they need to do well in these days.

  • BalkrishnaSapre on February 7, 2012, 5:17 GMT

    Good thing for cricket that nobody is dominant like aussies in during 1999-2007 and windies in early 1980s.. Only pattern should change a bit instead of seeing england losing in sub continent and ind/ sl losing on green tops.. thats still predictable...

  • KiwiRocker- on February 7, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    ICC will be better advised to get rid of non-sensical ranking system that has become a laughing stock. An over rated Indian team full of over rated stars like Tendulya who has never won anything for India was ranked No.1 and they were white washed not only in england but also in Australia...An England side that is ranked No.1 is white washed by a 'lowly ranked' Pakistan!...Its time to get rid of ranking system that has lulled poor Indian fans into a fantacy land and now they are claiming Pak win as an Asian win..Brilliant!

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:58 GMT

    In my point of view....No.1 team is only team that has ability to win Home as well as Away series......Past Auses Team only team that was worls champs of both ODI and Test.Atleast past deacde they were true champs. England being No.1, no doubt it is very good team when performing @ home...but @ subcontinent they are not good enough to perform against spinning wkts. keeping in mind Ind and Eng both claiming No.1 test side were white washed but auses never do that as No.1. If u claim No.1 then u have to be No.1 whatever condition are.......

  • CustomKid on February 7, 2012, 4:58 GMT

    Test cricket you can't beat it. So many fluctuations over 5 days, and right now any of the top 6 or 7 can beat each other which is great for the game.

    As an Aussie it was nice seeing ENG getting rolled but they'll bounce back for sure, I expect them to win in Sri Lanka and at worst draw against India later this year.

    The conclusion of this series ENG have mental issues against spin, no shame there, they've had it since Warne came on the scene and rolled them in 93. To be honest it was almost comical watching them bat against the two very good Paki spinners. They were simply clueless with the exception of maybe prior.

  • jonesy2 on February 7, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    haha all those fools trying to convince that pakistan are a really good side and that they were rusty! no. pakistan are ok, england are just not a good side and dont have good enough players to win consistently. honestly, why do england lack the quality, i have been keeping an eye on the "lions" games and the under 19s and stuff like that and it looks as though england will be competing with bangladesh and zimbabwe for the next, i dunno, 10 or so years..

  • vineetkarthi on February 7, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    Well Done, Pakistan. ... well, Done England.

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    tracks in india will have an extra zip from the wicket,than in abu dhabi and srilanka!!! england!!!! ,come to chennai,,,,,, it is supposed to be the best spinning wicket in the world!!!!

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:38 GMT

    The difference between this white wash and the white washes India got from England and Australia is England played hard cricket and wasnt beaten comprehensively(first one is an exception)!! they had their moments but still lost the games!!!

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:36 GMT

    Look @ who is doing all the talking - Andrew Strauss. He has endured a pathetic series with the bat and DRS alike. Andy Flower is a man known for his patience with players but for how long. Kevin Pietersen is almost a left armer's bunny these days, Ian Bell cannot pick a pehla, let alone a doosra or teesra. Eoin Morgan is the self assumed finisher in test cricket, makes a statement with a four or a six and almost immediately is found wanting in technique. Bowling - Stuart Broad to some extent came through with his reputation intact. Monty took 2 5 for's and outbowled Swann. Tim Bresnan is the official English mascot - every test he has played, England has won. Bad luck or bad timing of his injury ? There is more in store for England during the ODI series. Players like Shahid Afridi and Umar Akmal are waiting to inflict more damage to the already damaged dressing room.

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:30 GMT

    England proved that they are green track bullies.I am keen to hear from Michael Vaugn and Nasser Hussain about England's historic Whitewash..These people had lot to say on Indians.By the looks of it,England will have tough time in Sri Lanka and India !!

  • SamRoy on February 7, 2012, 4:26 GMT

    @subass You don't deserve to win a series if your middle order batsmen (No. 4 , 5 and 6) average 11, 8 and 13 respectively. Coupled with openers and No. 3 averaging below 30 (after so many dropped chances) and you deserve to be taken to the cleaners. The fact that England fought in the last couple of tests was down to Prior, Broad and sometimes Swann (none of them recognised batsmen) with the bat. Otherwise England were hopeless with the bat. Oh and by the way, stop cursing your luck. Remember how lucky you guys were in South Africa when you guys deserved a 3-1 thrashing but got away because of Onions and Collingwood.

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    The blue print is there for India and SL to follow and inflict more misery on the English. The teams need a good orthodox left arm spinner and an off-spinner who can bowl the doosra well. A leg spinner would be handy as well. I am not sure though that the spinners in India and SL are of the same calibre as the Pak spinners. But make no bones about it, India and SL, make turning pitches and get this English team back to ground and reality.

  • Harry_Kool on February 7, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    Sorry Andrew, you guys should have learnt your lesson when Warnie showed you, Cook, Bell & Pieterson up all those years ago and still you haven't learnt. Those 4 should re evaluate themselves for any sub continent tours, Pieterson is all class and should come back, the other 3 just haven't got it to play high quality spin. SL have a couple of good spinners that will test you, not so sure about India though.

  • chaitukash79 on February 7, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    I am not the greatest fan of English cricket.. but I really do admire Strauss' frank candor here. I only hope that Indian cricket can take a leaf out of his book and be so upfront in admitting its problems and attempting to solve it. Statements like "India should prepare spin pitches, and lets see how the Aussies do there" is so darned negative! Attitude like that can only push problems under the carpet. I especially like the part where Strauss says "we cant brush this away as an aberration". Respect from India for your candor mate.

  • on February 7, 2012, 4:17 GMT

    A HEART-WARMING PERFORMANCE FOR THE PAKISTANI CRICKET FANS, AND A HEART-WRENCHING PERFORMANCE FOR THE BRITISH CRICKET FANS.

  • mrgupta on February 7, 2012, 3:57 GMT

    @subbass: Oh so tour to India will be easy, then you are not aware how good a team is India at home. How can you forget the recent ODI drubbing of 5-0? India beat England in England in Tests in 2007, when was the last time England Won a series in India? Aussies have lost last two series 2-0 in India and now that we have learned our lessons get ready to play on rank turners and dust bowls. England lost on tracks which were not even the home ground (outside Pak). Let them play in India, in front of hundred thousand Indian crowd in Mumbai, Delhi and Kolkata and then see who is better.

  • satish619chandar on February 7, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    @JG2704 : The problem is, the batsmen they have preferred are some best players.. Bell was proven player of spin bowing but Ajmal was all over him mentally.. KP was the only attacking player they got and he has the left arm spin weakness.. Morgan is their best LOI player who plays spin well in short format.. I am not sure whether Bopara could have done any better in these conditions.. If i was a English fan, i wouldn't worry too much and wait for the team to perform in SL and India.. Certainly India and SL dont have the attack of Pakistan's quality.. England should look to send Prior at 6 as he can attack.. Morgan could have played at 7..

  • on February 7, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    englan must include one of these guys in its outfit : Owaise Shah , Ravi Bopara or James taylor

  • Romenevans on February 7, 2012, 3:47 GMT

    The problem is that this hopeless English team got too much hype glamor and got over rated, because of beating another hopeless India and that they couldn't digest and BAM! First ODI white wash in India and then Test green wash in Dubai. What else you can expect from this pathetic and hopeless English team in Asia. On top of it, their coach Andy Flower (World's Best ROFLMAO!!!) was known for playing spin so well, and he couldn't do a single thing about it? The fact is they can't play cricket without pitch curator serving them some fresh green grass on a silver platter in every match. Sorry that doesn't happen in Asia. Here comes Sri Lanka and India tours,fasten your seatbelts. ROFL!

  • on February 7, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    it is again the bowlers who won the series for pakistan , there is a need for a improvement in batting and the sencond seamer is not taking wickets.

  • on February 7, 2012, 3:43 GMT

    very lucky chance for pakistan

  • takenaback on February 7, 2012, 3:34 GMT

    It's very simple, England were beaten by a better team! It was sickening to listen to Nasser Hussain constantly tell us how great England were right to the death but I believe they have started their downward slide. It wasn't just playing against spin because they failed against pace as well.

  • on February 7, 2012, 3:25 GMT

    Why Everyone is keep on saying Asian Conditions,Asian Condition..! That wasn't ASIA..that was middle east..Which is as unfimiliar for pakistan as england or ant other neutral place could be.

  • TitooMomo on February 7, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    Thanks to Allah for this historic victory.

  • 12thUmpire on February 7, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    The 3 Lions are very strong … in their own den!

    Full credit to Flower if he did not whinge at the referee!

  • on February 7, 2012, 2:44 GMT

    Guarantee they will be stronger when come to facing India , After this quality spin facing experience with Pak and then with Sri Lanka, they will come to their own while facing India esp the mentality Indian team carrying nowadays comapare to Pak team

  • on February 7, 2012, 2:29 GMT

    I wish posters here would understand the nature of pitches. Pitches in England are not 'green and bouncy' they tend to be balanced and award good batting and bowling, just like the majority of tracks in Australia and South Africa. The difference in England is the overhead conditions, which make many grounds conducive to swing - do England control the Gods too? Obviously not after this performance.

    If pitches are to be criticised then look no further than India and SL. Time after time they are prepared to start flat and then take spin.

  • on February 7, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    @ Ravi Shant. Did you miss Englandss win in Australia?

  • cloudmess on February 7, 2012, 2:11 GMT

    Why do people keep saying that England were only no 1 because of "home" conditions? I don't think they enjoyed "home" conditions in Australia last winter, a country where almost no team, Asian or otherwise, had won in 20 years. But I also forget - Australia is also a "very weak" team now, so it was a hollow victory for England. Australia would be no match for a good side like say, Sri Lanka, or ahem India...? It's a great achievement for Pakistan, but there should also be a measure of perspective - a series win on a couple of sub-standard, low-scoring pitches does not suddenly make Pakistan no1.

  • kensohatter on February 7, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    A year ago plenty of people were saying England were the next great side one to be compared with S.Waughs great australian side or the Windies under Clive Lolyd and I argued with many stating that whilst ashes wins etc were impressive this side would never be considered a great side. A side worthy of no. 1 for there time perhaps if they show consistency but the problem lies in the fact they clearly have a problem with quality spin bowling on foriegn conditions and this team just doesnt have quality match winners. They have a solid team and Alister Cook is probably one of the best young bats around but they dont have a warne, mcgrath, ponting, richards, ambrose etc that will win a game from nowhere... To think this was the hardest asian tour is laughable... pakistan werent even at home! India and Sri Lanka are much better sides although India may tweak their side given their current poor form. Good luck England I truly enjoy watching you play but at best you are a top 3 nation.

  • RoJayao on February 7, 2012, 2:07 GMT

    Ok I can buy Pommy supporters believing they've faced the best subcontinent team of the moment, at least the best bowling anyhow. But three batsmen averaging around 10 on pitches that did NOT turn square, with two of those batsmen not having a single clue against decent spinners and another whose heart clearly no longer bleeds for England (KP), well it can't give a lot of hope if you're being reasonable. If India do carry out their pathetic threat of preparing raging turners, even Ashwin will destroy the England batting. Ditto if one of the two tests in SL is in Galle! Go on England, pick Bopara, and listen to the world laughing!

  • johnathonjosephs on February 7, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    The scariest thing about this is that the pitches were extremely flat. Yes, all the pundits and everybody claimed the pitches were flat and when Sri Lanka toured here 2 months ago, everybody did good. That means there are 2 spots to worry for both teams and both lie in Batting. I'd hate to see what happens to England when the tour India where one of Gambhir's "Rank Turners" comes up. And Sri Lanka (next assignment) have Rangana Herath who is a pretty decent bowler. If they add Randiv to the side, England may face some problems

  • Nampally on February 7, 2012, 1:53 GMT

    Strauss says " I have great faith in our batsmen. I think they are some of the best in the World". India though the same until they were demolished by England & Australia, overseas - each time whitewashed 4-0. Batting skills - footwork & technique is somewhat differnent when you play spin bowlers on the Asian pitches to those for seaming/swinging bowlers on England pitches. Just like swing bowling is a special skill, spin bowling is equally skillful too. Indian batting which is one of the strongest in the world collapsed like Nine pins in England. Yet the Indians whitewashed England 5-0 when England visited India. Had England played test matches in India instead of ODI's, the results would not have been much different.One way to avoid this situation for both India & England when being visitors is to have a full season tour as in 60's instead 1 or 2 practice games followed by 4 test matches.It is not possible to adapt to different playing conditions overnight & produce your best.

  • playitstraight on February 7, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    Yes Strauss, that is a necessity for a no.1 team. It is evident that even though you can play pace to some extent in the subcontinent, you cannot play spin. Of course, this is good news for us Indians as we will prepare a very good spin attack when you guys come over in December. Hope to see a whitewash with India wiinning 4-0, and of course I would love to see the word "revenge"!

  • playitstraight on February 7, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    Yes Strauss, that is a necessity for a no.1 team. It is evident that even though you can play pace to some extent in the subcontinent, you cannot play spin. Of course, this is good news for us Indians as we will prepare a very good spin attack when you guys come over in December. Hope to see a whitewash with India wiinning 4-0, and of course I would love to see the word "revenge"!

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on February 7, 2012, 1:17 GMT

    akber - sorry, but your comments about the spot fixing scandal being a set up are ridiculous. England were the only country to offer Pakistan a place to play matches away immediately after the terrorist attacks noone else fronted up and some of the players repay that kindness with spot fixing. No conspiracy here. Anyway, congrats to Pakistan for an excellent performanc but don;t let it go to your head, teams don't seem to be able to stay up top for long ;-).

  • Snick_To_Backward_Point on February 7, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    @subbass - not so sure it will be that much easier in India. They will prepare flat, lifeless pitches so that the likes of Sehwag can bludgeon large scores and they can compile huge totals to prove to us how good they are on boring pitches with draw written all over them. I do think our bowling attack is right up there for sure - certainly way superior to India's right now with plenty of talent in the locker room, but putting together a good response to 400+ totals is never easy if you're batting second. There's also the confidence issue - this whitewash is going to be tough to get out of the players' psyches - the wheels of what looked like a pretty infallible machine have well and truly come off. They're in Sri Lanka in 5 weeks, not much time to regroup...

  • on February 7, 2012, 1:05 GMT

    Ha ha ha ... Lol ... Now it is our turn .. England dont deserve to be No. 1

  • on February 7, 2012, 1:03 GMT

    any team other than australia to become no.1 wil be good for cricket. Aussies always win games with words!!!exclude the series against india

  • khan-touch-em on February 7, 2012, 0:56 GMT

    @ravi shantamurthy: the ICC rankings have Eng at #1 and they are rightly regarded as the No1 team. When and if SA takeover, they will be regarded as the No1 team. Now tell me, WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM ? lol

  • SanjivAwesome on February 7, 2012, 0:55 GMT

    England, don't worry about your India tour. My team is seriously rubbish, led by insipid captainacy, thick selectors and pensioner players. You will knock the socks off India easily.

  • Claydo78 on February 7, 2012, 0:44 GMT

    Being an Australian, it's great to see England getting trashed by a lesser nation! Pakistan played well, take nothing away from them, but it proves England shouldn't be the no. 1 ranked test nation! Losing the odd test is fine but getting beaten by 71 runs, 72 runs and 10 wickets is a hiding and you would think the England players would have more pride in the shirt their wearing to get beaten in such a manner! Also I can't see how people think India and Sri Lanka away is a easier series then Pakistan! India at home is the toughest tour to win even with the current form they are in and Sri Lanka have sangakarra the best batsmen in the world, I can't see England winning a test to be honest, and rightly so they are no where near as good as people have said they are!

  • yorkshirematt on February 7, 2012, 0:42 GMT

    @Akhber Lakhani No Strauss isn't ready for an ODI whitewash as he has retired from ODI's. He's off to (hopefully) find some form from somewhere ahead of the SL tour.

  • on February 7, 2012, 0:30 GMT

    this is true reality...england is so good in last year coz they only play Tests under home conditions..they were not tested why India and srilanka is so bad ina last year caz they play lot of tests in away conditions thats why they did so bad...remember this year engaland will play in away conditions and sl and Ind play in home conditions so script will have twisted :D.....

  • CAJOSEPH on February 7, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    I have two questions... 1) Where is 5wombats? 2) What happened to the superior work ethic, planning and execution, hunger to win, skill level, adaptability, stratergic vision and avioding IPL to focus on first calss cricket and develop test skills (dont know if you have to read it as avoiding IPL or being avoided by the IPL teams).... to all you proud poms.... when a team is winning its easy to get carried away with all this talk...but you really got to perform in all parts of the world before speaking rubbish about other teams. On the sub-continent your team is as effective as Zimbabwe or Afghanistan... period.

  • on February 7, 2012, 0:24 GMT

    Drop Morgan (seriously, coming down the wicket at the quick bowler when he's batting to save a test...?!) and bring in Bresnan when he's fit. Problem solved. You don't drop Bell/Pietersen etc after one bad series. Both of them were immense last year. Morgan had a couple of decent innings but has hardly proved himself. Strauss is the only one batsman who is under threat but he's starting to pick up and he's doing a decent job as captain. We were well beaten and BIG respect to Pakistan for their resurgence, it's great to see. But our abysmal batting has overshadowed the fact that our bowling has been world class. To come back and take 7-34 after that magnificent Younis/Ali stand showed real character. It's not like we rolled over completely. We were beaten by a better, more well prepared side but there were still plenty of positives to take out of it.

  • Meety on February 7, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    The problem as I see it for England is that they have prided themselves on keeping the unit together, with that stability results have come. Bell has been a prominant player for England over the last 12 to 18mths. I think the selectors need to look at the manner of the dismissals, at least with KP & Morgan they were trying to take the iniative, whereas Bell looked unlikely to get to the magical 25 balls he talked about before the 3rd test. In a hypothetical cricket world where players accepted a Horses for Courses type of policy,Bell should not be in the team in Asia. Not many other players are really putting their hand up atm, I think Taylor is suspect in Asia as well, so I think it may be back to Bopara for the time being in Asia. I think there are positives for England; 1. They were a definate chance of winning two of the 3 tests (that means they competed), 2. Their bowling combo for the 2nd & 3rd test is the way to go, Panesar really stood up & appears better than Swann in Asia!

  • jmcilhinney on February 7, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    There were some encouraging signs in that last innings but it was too little, too late. I think England talked themselves out of this series before it even started. There was all this talk of "attritional cricket" and they went in with a very defensive and negative attitude. Worse still, when that didn't work, they didn't adapt. In the sixth innings of the series Strauss was still playing the spinners almost exclusively off the back foot and what happens? He's out LBW. Who could have seen that coming? Cook and Trott looked a bit more positive in defence but seemed to forget about attack altogether for a while, prompting Trott to play an uncharacteristic poor shot. KP looked to have the right idea but was undone by poor technique. Bell looked to have the right idea but, after all the pressure the spinners applied, relaxed against pace and lost all concentration on a bad ball. Morgan looked to have the right idea but was undone by good bowling. Bat positively! That's all.

  • jackiethepen on February 7, 2012, 0:01 GMT

    Dobell is putting his own spin on the Strauss interview. He made it clear that the team would not be changed as a result of the Series and that has not been his policy. Nor did the coach give that impression either. So why did Dobell say that KP, Bell and Morgan were 'under scrutiny'? Also this was clearly a batting unit failure, whether you got lucky because you were dropped a few times, or unlucky because you got a couple of freak dismissals. None of the batsmen played convincingly enough on bowler friendly wickets. Bell had an average of 50 the last time he played Sri Lanka at home - and that was against Murali. He's out of form - but he's one of the best batsmen around and a seasoned Test player. You drop him - for? Dobell had been just awful since his appointment. What a pity. I thought he was a fine correspondent when he was covering county cricket. Could this be the influence of his editor David Hopps who always wrote with an negative agenda on the Guardian?

  • on February 6, 2012, 23:54 GMT

    To Rahulbose, from an Aussie, I don't think that England will find India or Sri Lanka easy marks unless they can improve. Full marks to Pakistan for never giving up even when THEIR batsmen failed to perform. Examine the problems honestly and assess the batsmen - sometimes they need to go back to first base and hone their skills again while younger ones are allowed a chance - Pietersen seems to stand out as one who is immensely talented but takes things for granted, and eventually such types need to either rebuild themselves or they fall out. If you want to be the best team, then no. 1 priority for each player must be to play test cricket for England, not to make loot from other forms such as BPL.

  • Nutcutlet on February 6, 2012, 23:49 GMT

    I find it interesting that two of the three middle order washouts are signed up for the fatuous (ok put another f word there if you want) IPL. KP tweeted something in the middle of this test to suggest that his mind was on the cattle auction when it should have been on matters of more immediate national sporting importance. There is, perhaps, not room in his brain for more than one thought at a time. He also tweeted today his apology to his supporters for his failure in this match (to follow on the other failures) - so that's alright then. It is clear from anyone who was watching that his technique is now woeful against the spinners - even Jimmy Anderson batted better than he did! Sorry, all you KP fans. My patience has gone - and I am very fair-minded - he does not play class spinners well; he does not play straight and his eyesight is not as sharp as it was in '05 v Warne. The get-out-of-jail shots across the line that made us gasp just aren't there now. Change is due.

  • Aubm on February 6, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    In years gone past England used to select players who were good at playing spin to tour Asia (I remember Tony Greig choosing his squad very carefully when he toured India & won). Perhaps the same style of thinking needs to be done now. Horses for courses, etc. I mean, they did it with playing 2 spinners, why not pick batsmen who can play spin well as well? Why is Morgan's place in the team more secure than Tremlett, Finn, Bres etc who get left out when there is a turning track?

  • kumarcoolbuddy on February 6, 2012, 23:26 GMT

    Pakistan deserves this appreciation for their talent and commitment and also good for cricket. Well nothing much to say about ENG team and nothing new. Only mistake ENG did was it boasted loudly just by winning against helpless and unprepared Indian team. Unlucky ENG didn't get a chance to play psychological dramas (to show their primary skills) otherwise they wud have won atleast one match in this series.

  • on February 6, 2012, 23:25 GMT

    Gratz to Pakistan on an emphatic series win. It's also great to see a South Asian country doing extremely well in test cricket given that both IND and SL are struggling big time in that format.

  • the_blue_android on February 6, 2012, 23:18 GMT

    Let's see how many England players retire by the end of this year. Let's see how many of their star bowlers still have a career by the end of this year. I bet Anderson and Broad will pick up injuries and Swann will be beaten to pulp.

  • Pritt32 on February 6, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    England had a glorious two years. Unfortunately, we do not live in a fairy-tale world, as things come to an end. The Pakistan whitewash series is a reality check for the England team. It shows them in a different light from their backyard. The England batmen fell like dominoes against the Pakistan spin duo. How can England learn from their mistakes? The Sri Lanka and Indian test series will offer another opportunity to show what the England team are made out of in the sub-continent conditions. They do not boost the strong bowling armoury of Pakistan, but still you cannot under-estimate them despite poor current form as both teams are looking to rebuild, particularly India who are going through a very bad patch. England has a lot to prove.

  • Cantbowlcantbat on February 6, 2012, 23:09 GMT

    Congratulations Pakistan on revealing that the emperor has no clothes

  • on February 6, 2012, 23:04 GMT

    lol england wil wind up loosing in srilanka and in india so much for the the number one rankings only team that wins all over the world is australia and maybe south africa

  • maddy20 on February 6, 2012, 22:59 GMT

    @Rahulbose That is what is called complacency. The reason for which India failed in conditions alien to them. Lets face it England are not just "bad" players of spin. They are very poor players of spin. I would not be surprised if the likes of Rangana Herath, Ajantha Mendis, Suranga Lakmal bamboozle them just as much. As for India we all know how strong the batting is in home conditions and Ashwin, Rahul Sharma , Ojha are very good on turning tracks(even though not as good as Ajmal and Rehman). England needs to fight their demons AKA quality spin bowling if they are to stand a chance. We have all seen how poorly they played in the ODI series in India and they should not ignore the ominous signs.

  • on February 6, 2012, 22:56 GMT

    CricketDiwana, I don't think anyone can say that British pitches don't offer a fair game - England scored buckets of runs in the India series and even Sri Lanka scored a couple of 400s. Likewise, in the recent Australia tour Clarke and Ponting made obscene scores on the same pitches that seemed so daemonic to the Indians. Obviously lots of touring teams have come over to the same sorts of British and Australian pitches in the past and prospered. We could say the same thing about these UAE pitches, and it would be equally untrue - it offered plenty for batsmen who knew what they were doing, but England struggled because they weren't accustomed to it.

  • donda on February 6, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Bowlers did a wonderful job and batsmen did not, so why to make an excuse of layoff time. Andy flower, i was expecting better answer from you. Really sad to see excuse from head coach of this type. Lame. so Lame.

    Truth is that english player cannot play spin well and they need to improve whether playing for 12 months or 1 month consecutively. They need to improve their technique to play with bat not with pads and see the bowlers fingers and read the ball well.

    English batting is sorry tale and as pakistani i love it. Make whatever excuses you want but your batting is failure against spin. Admit that and improve it.

  • JG2704 on February 6, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    Got to be honest I've become a little fed up with Strauss/Flower at times.Surely it is obvious that our batsmen have been badly out of form and low on confidence and they've not made one change to the batting.It does seem that they are frightened to change the batting or bring in a bowler for a batsman.Finn was bowling (in the last Ashes) much better than any of our batsmen have been batting in this series and they weren't afraid to change it around. And fair play , it came off. But why are they afraid to change it around with the batsmen? It's not like they can't recall a batsman even a test or 2 later. I just wonder if part of the reason why our bowlers did their job so much better than our batsmen is because there is much more competition for places and they know that there is more depth for the team to call upon and England are certainly less afraid to tinker with the bowling.

  • on February 6, 2012, 22:38 GMT

    I dont know why ravi bopara wan't given a chance in the last match.He was due a match patricularly when keven Peterson and morgan were failing again and again against pakistani spinners.

  • subbass on February 6, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    Frustrating series in truth and the strangest 'whitewash' ever. England should have won two tests, no ifs or buts about it. You should chase 145 and you should win after bowling the opposition out for 99 ! Still, credit to Pakistan they won the crunch sessions and that is that, but reasons to be optimistic as the bowling is fine. All the people who said Broad and Anderson would not take wickets have been proved wrong, and it was great to see Monty do so well. So long as England sort out the batting they could still come back and win (or draw each series) in SL and India, it is not out of the question. And Pakistan are probably the sub continents number one side now. So the hardest tour is done, the next two are easier !

    But overall frustrating as we ought to have won the series really.

    ( cricinfo plz publish)

  • JG2704 on February 6, 2012, 22:24 GMT

    @MananWad on (February 06 2012, 19:33 PM GMT) - Yes you're right. I feel England need to make changes otherwise we have a similar situation to India whereby we keep picking our batsmen on past form.

  • on February 6, 2012, 22:17 GMT

    ha ha ... That's all u can say when u loose buddy ....

  • on February 6, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    I dont understand the point in here, people from people from britain especially likes of atherton , geoff boycott and others claimed that england are the no 1 side, it is true they are the no 1 , but where ?, only in england, at the moment no of the teams have the potential to be no1, well done pak.

  • doctornikki on February 6, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    Misbah is right..Pakistan is back with a bang and all those trying to isolate its cricket have to bite the dust..NO1 or 5 doesnt matter and of course they will not be winning always..So we must appreciate the teams and players that are performing well regardless of their ranking..Guys please dont degrade england or india for their being no 1 sometime..It doesnt mean they have to win always..so goes for pakistan..we shdnt say they r 3rd graders if they lose the next series..its a fact they r one of the top three teams in current form..azhar ali is one for the future..ajmal the best spinner in the world..however who says Cook,Pieterson,Trott and Bell cant bat..They will be back soon..I think pakistani attack was too good..they have the best spin attack in world and gul is good with fast bowling..Hope england bounces back after their batsmen work out their technical mistakes...Younus khan should be an example to them..

  • on February 6, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    Ian Bell, Morgan,cook (excellent against fast bowling) should not have been in side when playing asian country on spin friendley wickets IN TEST MATCHES ,instead they should have played ravi bopara in playing x1 and O shah AND M lumb orJonny Bairstow

  • BowledYa on February 6, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    I do agree to some extent that England were rusty and ran into an extremely in-form team that had been playing cricket all along. That said, Pakistan still would have won the series, maybe just not by this margin. If England had been playing cricket they surely would have won at least the 2nd test with only 145 to get. I don't believe the pitch/weather had anything to do with it. These were excellent test pitches and not the typical Asian dust bowls.

  • Patchmaster on February 6, 2012, 21:47 GMT

    So after the game Flower says "maybe we weren't ready" - isnt his EXACT job description to make sure the team ARE ready !? Time to put some pressure on the 'old guard' of KP and Bell, plus Morgan needs a kick up the backside. New blood for the Sri Lanka test, and let the previously mentioned three fight for there places, rather than having the security of knowing they'll always get picked - regardless of poor performances.

  • Rahulbose on February 6, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    England need not go into panic mode. Srl and Indl series will be much easier. Srl were just beaten at home by Aussies. And we all know how bad India are at the moment. Eng should do well in the up coming series.

  • MN-USA on February 6, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    I would suggest Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower to have their top 5 batsmen attend a "Spinner bootcamp" at Pakistan for 4-5 months if they wish to prepare well for SL and Indial tour. Have them participate in the Pak domestic circuit to get maximum exposure & experience in sub-continental conditions, local pitches and spinners...as there are a lot of quality spinners in the domestic circuit. Select only those who pass and attain the BOOTCAMP CERTIFICATION for SL and Indian tour.

  • pchikoop on February 6, 2012, 21:26 GMT

    These are double standards from Andy Flower. He himself extended his contract with a view that he will need time off for his family and only feature in "marquee" series. Similarly, when he talks about managing the work load of his team, this is what happens. Australians currently have the best policy concerning player rotation which granted raised out of the Argus review. The England bubble was just as inflated as the dotcom or the real estate bubbles here in the US. Every bubble bursts but while the sun shines on it, everyone basks in it's glory. This has to be termed as a collective whitewash since Eng lost all it's ODIs against India earlier too. So, no point blaming the grave you dug for yourself, Mr Flower when you termed it was the right way to go in the first place.

  • Yazdegerd on February 6, 2012, 21:24 GMT

    England lost his performance in Arabian desert. Is it possible for ICC to have same standard pitches all over the world. This option of slow, low bouncy, fast track should be taken out of equation. Than weather condition would be only difference everywhere. Let this option for players.

  • on February 6, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    well, well, well ! the curse of being number 1 !! Ind was whitewashed and now Eng !! Having said that, due credit must be given to the Pakistan Team, especially the captain.. cheers !!

  • Raki99 on February 6, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    The biggest question is is there a team which can win consistent in every condition? And we just found out that answer. NO If the same pakistan plays in england the result would be other way in the direction of eng.

  • SaneVoice on February 6, 2012, 21:14 GMT

    I sincerely request all Indian fans on this forum not to 'crow and gloat' as it certainly hurts a certain @wombats. Test cricket is already facing an acute fan crisis and can ill-afford loss of even one 'true' test cricket fan (as per @wombats himself). Last heard he was seriously planning to watch IPL and to come to India to support a couple of English players! His simple congratulatory comment suggested as much! Hope this gets published!

  • on February 6, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    there was nothing wrong with bell , pietersen and morgan form.they were playing good cricket before this tour...it was ajmal and rehman who was too good for them.. they bowled well and the england team didnt get the Quality spin of both.

  • MWaqqar on February 6, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    It is being said Pak is first team since 1907 to win after getting out for less then 100 in first innings. What about SA getting out for 96 and still beating Aus only three months ago.

  • on February 6, 2012, 20:50 GMT

    It would be an interesting series for England in Sri Lanka. England can't bat at the moment and Sri Lanka do not have the bowlers to take twenty wickets. So both teams are either equally strong or equally week. India will prove an easier option for England at the moment. India, at the moment cannot bat, bowl or field.

  • CricketDiwana on February 6, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    England are home ground bullies ( rather green pitch bullies). They have won only in Australia. Green and bouncy pitches are not the ideal pitches as they favour fast and swing bowlers. This is not the the spirit of Cricket. Give both batsmen and bowlers equal chance. Saying this, Pakistan have shut off everybody 's mouth. Were David Gower, Naseer Hussain, Ian Botham watching the matches. Anything to say Mr Experts? England need to develop pitches where bowlers and batsmen have equal chances. Well done Pakistan. I wish you all the best to achieve the no.1 spot.

  • MWaqqar on February 6, 2012, 20:38 GMT

    England lost due to mental weakness of batsmen. There were no spin devils in the pitch. I am surprised an experienced batting line up like England just rolled over mentally.

  • MWaqqar on February 6, 2012, 20:33 GMT

    Andy Flower says no cricket since Oct was the cause of whitewash. When India was white washed the reason given was back to back series and too much cricket. which reason is correct.

  • vkypak on February 6, 2012, 20:32 GMT

    strauss take younis to indian tour he will teach how to destroy spin attack

  • Sanj747 on February 6, 2012, 20:25 GMT

    Just shows that the rankings don't mean a thing. England are not the number 1 team just because of some ranking table that is out of touch with reality. India's recent results in Aus and Eng have shown the same about the rankings. Strauss needs runs badly. Bell, Pietersen and Morgan have shown how poor they are against slow bowling. Matt Prior was the only competent batsman with Cook and Broad showing glimpses of form. Great result for Pakistan cricket and the country. Good luck to them.

  • on February 6, 2012, 20:15 GMT

    As an Indian fan, I must say I hated england after the summer white wash (mostly bcoz of english media n ex cricketers who termed them in the same league of aus in 2000) and wanted pak to win. But after this series watever one may say but one can not deny that england did show fight unlike india.. best thing I liked that strauss is not living on past glories ....i believe they will have enough mental power n determination to succeed in india n srilanka..cricinfo pls publish

  • Narkovian on February 6, 2012, 20:08 GMT

    Andy Flower seems to be saying that the 3 month break for ENG players was wrong. Can't agree. First we are led to believe by everyone involved in cricket admin/playing that there is far too much cricket, and they are all jaded and tired out, poor darlings. Now we are being told that they should play, play ,play all the year round. ( And probably bore us all to death at the same time !) Nothing to do with the break IMHO, just poor batting. No-one says the bowlers were undercooked do they? Lets face it ENG were beaten by a side which was far better in the conditions.

    PS.. we are about to be bored to death anyway with no less than 4 ODIs and 3 T20s. That's 7 more games.. same old . same old.... yawn ! N

  • goldeneye075 on February 6, 2012, 20:08 GMT

    I don't think sri lankan tour will be that much of a test for the england team, I am saying this because 1) At the moment sri lanka do not have quality spinners (like pakistan, after Murali's retairment ) 2) Sri Lanka is not a setteled team at the moment. 2) sri lanka havn't played in home conditions for a while ... . England did faced the best team that's going around in the subcontinent at the moment, and other teams are far far behind pakistan (no where near) . if nothing of extrodinary happens in sri lanka, the sri lankan tour will be a easy walk in the park for the english team.. Paksitan team did had the best bowling attacks that's going around at the moment, along with SA, AUS and ENG never the less.

  • philipg33 on February 6, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    Haha! George Dobell trying to get Pietersen dropped again! Give up. He's had one bad series. Ponting had a bad year and is back stronger than ever. Same with Bell. He's come off a summer of averaging over 100. It's just unfortunate that the bad form of all the top six coincided whereas normally 2 or 3 maybe 4 when you're doing really well cover the rest. With the run England have had it is not that surprising that some collective bad form might strike. But they are still a very good side, and Bell, Pietersen and Strauss all have sub-continenet 100s. And every batsman on both sides struggled for most of the time in this series including Younis till the last innings. Pietersen has previously murdered the two greatest spinners of all time. But lets just give Ajmal and Rehman their due. They have bowled very well, better than Sri Lanka or India will bowl. And Pietersen and Bell will score heavily for a long time for England, probably starting in Sri Lanka. Let Pietersen get on with it....

  • PutMarshyOn on February 6, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    So Eng lost because they hadn't played recently? That's the best the coach can come up with? Might wash if it were a one-off, but the record on the sub-continent doesn't suggest it is.

    Here's a more likely reason - how often do Eng county players have to graft out runs on against top spinners in helpful conditions? Easy answer. Virtually never. Back in the 70's you had the like of Bedi, Illingworth, Underwood, Lance Gibbs, Titmus etc all having their moments on uncovered pitches. As a result the county game developed people like Fletcher & Gatting - not to mention Lord Geoffrey of Boycott - all fine players of spin.

    Talent isn't under question - is there a more naturally talented batsman in world cricket than Morgan? But this isn't a skill you are born with.

  • vkypak on February 6, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    dont worry strauss, u will give better performance in india, coz they have no ajmal.and offcourse doosra teesra.....

  • Buggsy on February 6, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    How can Bell, Pietersen and Morgan be under threat? Sure they all had a bad series, but Morgan is a talented player who is still finding his feet at Test level and the thought of dropping Bell and Pietersen prior to this series was unpalatable. The fact is Enland were undone by two brilliant spinners and they won't be the last team to suffer Ajmal and co. Well done to Pakistan, let's hope their win isn't an aberration.

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Mr. Strauss, Are you also ready for an ODI white-eash. Time is NOW to get alert.

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    M/s Strauss and Andy Flower. If your assertion about the recent results is sincere and if you do consider the happening as eye-opener, it is good for you and for the english cricket. You must also take this as a strong slap on your face by the very same team you and your english media subjected to untold humiliation. I still believe and strongly believe that whatever done by and whosoever done it against Pakistan team was not an accident. It was deleberate pre-planned game. Certain anti game elements along with anti-journalism elements of British media hatched the whole game of sting operation (in fact the defination of sting operation it self indicaates something like a preplanned game, isn't that so?)against Pakistan. Justice was rightly done then and those who were guilty did get punishment, but justice that is done now on the cricket field also should not be considered any lesser digree of punishment for all those ill-wishers and anti-cricket elements.

  • MananWad on February 6, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    After First test.. England said its an eye opener.... same thing after second test and now third, they keep saying that...... looks like after one defeat, only one person open eyes..... so they may need 11 more defeats for opening everybody's eye in the squad :P

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    England must learn to play in Asia said by Strauss..............Pakistan run in their own way.............

  • zuber21886 on February 6, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    its not just the matter of england should learn to play in Asia, its the matter of every cricket country should learn to play overseas, and then there will be equal competitions

  • hhillbumper on February 6, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Not sure About Bell as every time he looks like he is ready to become a world class batsman he moves backwards. He can bat against all bowling so not sure what haopened there.Pietersen is an enigma and you have to wonder what goes on in his head at times.Morgan well he should just be dumped or kept for One day slapathons

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    Yes ofcourse, you have to visit Pakistan yet lol

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  • on February 6, 2012, 19:04 GMT

    Yes ofcourse, you have to visit Pakistan yet lol

  • hhillbumper on February 6, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Not sure About Bell as every time he looks like he is ready to become a world class batsman he moves backwards. He can bat against all bowling so not sure what haopened there.Pietersen is an enigma and you have to wonder what goes on in his head at times.Morgan well he should just be dumped or kept for One day slapathons

  • zuber21886 on February 6, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    its not just the matter of england should learn to play in Asia, its the matter of every cricket country should learn to play overseas, and then there will be equal competitions

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    England must learn to play in Asia said by Strauss..............Pakistan run in their own way.............

  • MananWad on February 6, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    After First test.. England said its an eye opener.... same thing after second test and now third, they keep saying that...... looks like after one defeat, only one person open eyes..... so they may need 11 more defeats for opening everybody's eye in the squad :P

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    M/s Strauss and Andy Flower. If your assertion about the recent results is sincere and if you do consider the happening as eye-opener, it is good for you and for the english cricket. You must also take this as a strong slap on your face by the very same team you and your english media subjected to untold humiliation. I still believe and strongly believe that whatever done by and whosoever done it against Pakistan team was not an accident. It was deleberate pre-planned game. Certain anti game elements along with anti-journalism elements of British media hatched the whole game of sting operation (in fact the defination of sting operation it self indicaates something like a preplanned game, isn't that so?)against Pakistan. Justice was rightly done then and those who were guilty did get punishment, but justice that is done now on the cricket field also should not be considered any lesser digree of punishment for all those ill-wishers and anti-cricket elements.

  • on February 6, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Mr. Strauss, Are you also ready for an ODI white-eash. Time is NOW to get alert.

  • Buggsy on February 6, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    How can Bell, Pietersen and Morgan be under threat? Sure they all had a bad series, but Morgan is a talented player who is still finding his feet at Test level and the thought of dropping Bell and Pietersen prior to this series was unpalatable. The fact is Enland were undone by two brilliant spinners and they won't be the last team to suffer Ajmal and co. Well done to Pakistan, let's hope their win isn't an aberration.

  • vkypak on February 6, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    dont worry strauss, u will give better performance in india, coz they have no ajmal.and offcourse doosra teesra.....

  • PutMarshyOn on February 6, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    So Eng lost because they hadn't played recently? That's the best the coach can come up with? Might wash if it were a one-off, but the record on the sub-continent doesn't suggest it is.

    Here's a more likely reason - how often do Eng county players have to graft out runs on against top spinners in helpful conditions? Easy answer. Virtually never. Back in the 70's you had the like of Bedi, Illingworth, Underwood, Lance Gibbs, Titmus etc all having their moments on uncovered pitches. As a result the county game developed people like Fletcher & Gatting - not to mention Lord Geoffrey of Boycott - all fine players of spin.

    Talent isn't under question - is there a more naturally talented batsman in world cricket than Morgan? But this isn't a skill you are born with.