Australia in South Africa 2011-12 November 13, 2011

Warner replaces injured Shaun Marsh

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Shaun Marsh has been ruled out of the second Test against South Africa and has been replaced in Australia's squad by David Warner. Marsh struggled with a back injury during Australia's humiliating loss in Cape Town, where he suffered the problem while running between the wickets during his first innings of 44.

Warner will join the tour on Monday ahead of the Johannesburg Test, which starts on Thursday, but Usman Khawaja, who is already with the squad, is the likely candidate to replace Marsh at No.3. Cricket Australia confirmed Marsh would fly home after he showed only slow improvement from his back problem.

The injury was so troubling for Marsh that on the second day in Cape Town he was at the team hotel and was not expected to take the field at all. But he refused to stay on the sidelines as Australia collapsed and he batted at No.10, although he was clearly hampered as he walked out to the crease.

"He was in considerable pain and was obviously restricted while batting in the second innings," Alex Kountouris, the team physio, said. He is slowly improving but will return to Australia for further investigation and treatment as he will not recover in time to play the second Test in Johannesburg."

The loss of Marsh is a significant one for Australia after their capitulation for 47 in the second innings at Newlands. Although he has played only three Tests, Marsh has been one of the team's most in-form batsmen, scoring a century on debut in Sri Lanka followed by 81 in his second Test and a pair of half-centuries in Australia's tour match in Potchefstroom.

His absence will be felt, with senior players including Ricky Ponting and Shane Watson struggling for form. Warner scored 148 in last week's Sheffield Shield match against South Australia and has been in irresistible form this year, but it would still take a brave selection panel to include him at the expense of one of the existing squad members.

"David has been in tremendous form for New South Wales in all forms of the game including a recent century for New South Wales in the Sheffield Shield competition," Andrew Hilditch, the outgoing chairman of selectors, said. "We are certain that should the opportunity present itself he will be ready to perform at Test level."

Australia were due to train at Newlands on Sunday but rain in Cape Town was complicating their plans. The squad flies to Johannesburg on Monday.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • hashabjp on November 16, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    People want michael hussey to be removed ...three back to back man of the series award and still people have the audacity to talk about him that way... No player had dominated in such a significant way like Hussey in such a short time... Not even Sachin Tendulkar. Hussey is still the best batsman for australia at the moment.

  • hyclass on November 16, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    In his last 3 -1st class seasons for WA,Marsh managed 4,5 & 4 games for a total of 13 matches.In that time,he made 1058 runs from 25 innings at 48 with 2 100s.Its well short of the number of games he would have played had he been fit. For all those who pushed the Marsh selection barrow,only to see the same injury recur in the middle of only his 3rd Test, that has constantly prevented him from playing more than a bit part for his state,I wonder how you justify this to yourselves.In the same spirit,Warner has little to recommend his selection.He averages 46 for NSW.His recent 100 came against Sth Australia,far & away the weakest Shield side on the diminutive,batsman friendly Bankstown oval.His average is bloated by his Zimbabwe innings for Australia A,again on a flat wicket against a moderate opponent.It is instructive that he averages 6.5 against QLD,24.5 against Tas and 39.25 v WA,the bouncing,swinging and seaming wickets.All his success has come on flat wickets v modest bowling.

  • smudgeon on November 15, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    As an aside, I'm certainly not advocating Dan Christian as a cure-all! Merely that Australia could do with a decent all-rounder to bat in the middle-order and add to the bowling mix. Dan's name was just the first that came to mind. Funny how I didn't even think of Watto, but I guess him moving down the order has been talked to death recently...

  • big_al_81 on November 15, 2011, 10:57 GMT

    It is one of the joys of sport that things that seemed immoveable do eventually shift and so for a Pom it's fascinating to see the soul-searching going on among the Aussies. I don't actually think it's that bad for you really. It's a mental game at the top level and some of the players don't have it so, yes, new ones will be needed but it looks like you've got a few. You really should hold onto the decent win in SL and not worry so much about SA - they're clearly better than you at the moment. SA and England are the 2 best sides by some way but neither of us are yet great. And don't worry about India - they're the most over-rated side there has ever been, essentially because they can't bowl and most Indian fans aren't worried about that! Mr Baker is right, use NZ and India to sort it all out. BTW anyone suggesting Dan Christian is an answer baffles me - In the yawntastic IPL I was amazed to see he'd cost someone a lot yet was playing in a very ordinary way in very ordinary cricket.

  • hris on November 15, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    @landl47. i think u got it right when u said oz just doesnt have good young test match talent. A look at the player avg gives a hint. I see no choice but to pick Warner. Ideally would like to have a more experienced player with 50+ avg, but sadly there isnt. I believe apart from Hughes there isnt a single player with avg of 50 or higher with atleast 20 matches played and if u exclude the really old guys like dussey, chris rogers. u have to go down to 10 matches to find another one -- Warner and 7 matches for Glen Maxwell. As for Cooper- its just been a couple of good matches for him. Ferguson is wasting his talent. Maybe we could look at Cosgrove but he hasnt scored many runs this season either. The situation is really that bad. ODI are not an issue, we got plenty of talent for that. But i think we are set to struggle in test cricket for some time.

  • Winsome on November 15, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    I'm not sure if Callum Ferguson has ever had a Shield season where he has averaged 50. He plays at Adelaide so I think you can forget about him for test cricket.

  • rahulcricket007 on November 15, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    @SI BAKER . REALLY INDIA IS ONE OF THE TWO WEAKEST SIDES ? EVEN WEAKER THAN SL WHO HAD NOT WIN MATCH AFTER MURALI'S RETIREMENT , AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR SIDE WHO GETS BOWLED OUT FOR 47 . ATLEAST INDIA WERE NEVER BOLWED OUT FOR SUCH A SCORE FOR A LONG TIME ( LAST WAS 76 IN 2008) . YOUR SIDE HAS BEEN BOWLED OUT FOR LESS THAN 100 THRICE IN A YEAR . IF ZAHEER GETS FIT AND ISHANT FIND ITS RHYTHM ON AUS BOUNCY PITCHES THEN READY FOR ANOTHER SERIES DEFEAT FOR SUCCESIVE SEASONS .( AFTER ALL NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE TO COME TO INDIA IN OCT 2012 )

  • on November 15, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    It may seem a bit out ofcontext as a response to this article...but if Punter scores tons against India and MJ takes wickets at Perth (again India being the opponenets)..are they going to be persisted with.??Indian bowling is infamous in India and renowned globally for bringing back out of form batsmen to form.Ponting really seems to be over(a great career ;although he wants to go to Eng for Ashes2k13 dont think thats good for Aus cricket)...same is the case with MJ..dont know y Aus selectors persist with him tour ater tour(not forgetting the practice match but look at his performance at Newlands..)again at Perth he may bowl Aus to victory in Jan but will that make sure he ll be carried for the next 18 months..(till 2k13)...and this is from india...

  • smudgeon on November 15, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    Si Baker - I like your idea of wholesale changes, but they should have happened for the SL tour (or even blooding test hopefuls for the ODI tour of BD). And they did - sort of - with Hughes, Khawaja, Lyon & Copeland all getting a crack. Johnson & Haddin should be the next to go, I think. However, I think you underestimate India's state. Their bowlers aren't great, but conditions will suit Ishant (if he plays) and Zaheer has proven to be a dangerous prospect, particularly with the old ball. And it wouldn't surprise me if Laxman, Dravid & Sehwag (and that other guy) make mince-meat of our bowlers, and that can be a dangerous time to give young, inexperienced talent a go. No obvious solutions on my part (although Clarke, Harris & Hussey must stay), but you're probably right on the bowling front - any two of Copeland, Cummins or Pattinson (Butterworth too, IMO)should be given a chance, Wade/Paine in for Haddin, and, well, aim for a win but perhaps be prepared for a pummeling!

  • on November 15, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    Warner, waton, Kawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, haddin, Harris, Lyon, Cummins, Siddle must be the team for 2nd test... And please drop beer, johnson, haddin, hughes from the squad for NZ series.. Bring in Paine, callum, bollinger .. Need a strong team to play against india...

  • hashabjp on November 16, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    People want michael hussey to be removed ...three back to back man of the series award and still people have the audacity to talk about him that way... No player had dominated in such a significant way like Hussey in such a short time... Not even Sachin Tendulkar. Hussey is still the best batsman for australia at the moment.

  • hyclass on November 16, 2011, 8:40 GMT

    In his last 3 -1st class seasons for WA,Marsh managed 4,5 & 4 games for a total of 13 matches.In that time,he made 1058 runs from 25 innings at 48 with 2 100s.Its well short of the number of games he would have played had he been fit. For all those who pushed the Marsh selection barrow,only to see the same injury recur in the middle of only his 3rd Test, that has constantly prevented him from playing more than a bit part for his state,I wonder how you justify this to yourselves.In the same spirit,Warner has little to recommend his selection.He averages 46 for NSW.His recent 100 came against Sth Australia,far & away the weakest Shield side on the diminutive,batsman friendly Bankstown oval.His average is bloated by his Zimbabwe innings for Australia A,again on a flat wicket against a moderate opponent.It is instructive that he averages 6.5 against QLD,24.5 against Tas and 39.25 v WA,the bouncing,swinging and seaming wickets.All his success has come on flat wickets v modest bowling.

  • smudgeon on November 15, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    As an aside, I'm certainly not advocating Dan Christian as a cure-all! Merely that Australia could do with a decent all-rounder to bat in the middle-order and add to the bowling mix. Dan's name was just the first that came to mind. Funny how I didn't even think of Watto, but I guess him moving down the order has been talked to death recently...

  • big_al_81 on November 15, 2011, 10:57 GMT

    It is one of the joys of sport that things that seemed immoveable do eventually shift and so for a Pom it's fascinating to see the soul-searching going on among the Aussies. I don't actually think it's that bad for you really. It's a mental game at the top level and some of the players don't have it so, yes, new ones will be needed but it looks like you've got a few. You really should hold onto the decent win in SL and not worry so much about SA - they're clearly better than you at the moment. SA and England are the 2 best sides by some way but neither of us are yet great. And don't worry about India - they're the most over-rated side there has ever been, essentially because they can't bowl and most Indian fans aren't worried about that! Mr Baker is right, use NZ and India to sort it all out. BTW anyone suggesting Dan Christian is an answer baffles me - In the yawntastic IPL I was amazed to see he'd cost someone a lot yet was playing in a very ordinary way in very ordinary cricket.

  • hris on November 15, 2011, 10:16 GMT

    @landl47. i think u got it right when u said oz just doesnt have good young test match talent. A look at the player avg gives a hint. I see no choice but to pick Warner. Ideally would like to have a more experienced player with 50+ avg, but sadly there isnt. I believe apart from Hughes there isnt a single player with avg of 50 or higher with atleast 20 matches played and if u exclude the really old guys like dussey, chris rogers. u have to go down to 10 matches to find another one -- Warner and 7 matches for Glen Maxwell. As for Cooper- its just been a couple of good matches for him. Ferguson is wasting his talent. Maybe we could look at Cosgrove but he hasnt scored many runs this season either. The situation is really that bad. ODI are not an issue, we got plenty of talent for that. But i think we are set to struggle in test cricket for some time.

  • Winsome on November 15, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    I'm not sure if Callum Ferguson has ever had a Shield season where he has averaged 50. He plays at Adelaide so I think you can forget about him for test cricket.

  • rahulcricket007 on November 15, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    @SI BAKER . REALLY INDIA IS ONE OF THE TWO WEAKEST SIDES ? EVEN WEAKER THAN SL WHO HAD NOT WIN MATCH AFTER MURALI'S RETIREMENT , AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR SIDE WHO GETS BOWLED OUT FOR 47 . ATLEAST INDIA WERE NEVER BOLWED OUT FOR SUCH A SCORE FOR A LONG TIME ( LAST WAS 76 IN 2008) . YOUR SIDE HAS BEEN BOWLED OUT FOR LESS THAN 100 THRICE IN A YEAR . IF ZAHEER GETS FIT AND ISHANT FIND ITS RHYTHM ON AUS BOUNCY PITCHES THEN READY FOR ANOTHER SERIES DEFEAT FOR SUCCESIVE SEASONS .( AFTER ALL NEXT YEAR YOU HAVE TO COME TO INDIA IN OCT 2012 )

  • on November 15, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    It may seem a bit out ofcontext as a response to this article...but if Punter scores tons against India and MJ takes wickets at Perth (again India being the opponenets)..are they going to be persisted with.??Indian bowling is infamous in India and renowned globally for bringing back out of form batsmen to form.Ponting really seems to be over(a great career ;although he wants to go to Eng for Ashes2k13 dont think thats good for Aus cricket)...same is the case with MJ..dont know y Aus selectors persist with him tour ater tour(not forgetting the practice match but look at his performance at Newlands..)again at Perth he may bowl Aus to victory in Jan but will that make sure he ll be carried for the next 18 months..(till 2k13)...and this is from india...

  • smudgeon on November 15, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    Si Baker - I like your idea of wholesale changes, but they should have happened for the SL tour (or even blooding test hopefuls for the ODI tour of BD). And they did - sort of - with Hughes, Khawaja, Lyon & Copeland all getting a crack. Johnson & Haddin should be the next to go, I think. However, I think you underestimate India's state. Their bowlers aren't great, but conditions will suit Ishant (if he plays) and Zaheer has proven to be a dangerous prospect, particularly with the old ball. And it wouldn't surprise me if Laxman, Dravid & Sehwag (and that other guy) make mince-meat of our bowlers, and that can be a dangerous time to give young, inexperienced talent a go. No obvious solutions on my part (although Clarke, Harris & Hussey must stay), but you're probably right on the bowling front - any two of Copeland, Cummins or Pattinson (Butterworth too, IMO)should be given a chance, Wade/Paine in for Haddin, and, well, aim for a win but perhaps be prepared for a pummeling!

  • on November 15, 2011, 7:18 GMT

    Warner, waton, Kawaja, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, haddin, Harris, Lyon, Cummins, Siddle must be the team for 2nd test... And please drop beer, johnson, haddin, hughes from the squad for NZ series.. Bring in Paine, callum, bollinger .. Need a strong team to play against india...

  • landl47 on November 15, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    Agree with your thinking, Smudgeon. Dan Christian- 28 years old, first-class batting average 28, bowling average 35. Test class? I think not. Tom Cooper is more promising, but inexperienced. He just made 98 and 203* against NSW, which lifted his average to 45 (previously it was in the low 30s), but he's only played 13 first-class games. Playing for the Netherlands won't interfere with him playing for Australia. He's Australian-born and the Netherlands isn't a test-playing country. Might be worth a look, but before that big game against NSW he hadn't done anything special and wasn't a regular in the South Australia side.

  • on November 15, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    Australia need a full revamp. In the next six months, they need to seriously look at trying some of the younger guns. Khawaja and Warner deserve to be in the squad but I would like to see people like Ferguson, Paine, Wade and Christian. I admit I'm from Adelaide, but we need to get this over with. With bowling, I agree to try Cummings and Lyon as they are our best chances of future bowling stars.

  • kensohatter on November 15, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    Agree for the most part with Si Baker. Lets use these weak series to build a team that can at least challenge the poms next time round. Warner, Kwaja and Ferguson are all great prospects and I dont see Hughes as a viable option against a moving ball. O'Keefe is a far better option than Lyon. The only thing I will add is the inclusion of Mitchell Starc possibly to replace the wayward Johnson. Copeland whilst consistent is just not going to trouble Bell, KP and Co. + we already have a medium pace type option in Watson. If Watson was injured id replace him with Ferguson and include Copeland athe expense of starc. Paine for Haddin is a no brainer- Wade as reserve. My worry is too many youngsters with only the relatively immature Clarke and Watson to lead. Ponting and Hussey providing guidance wouldnt be a bad thing but you cant keep everyone. My team for NZ would be 1. Warner 2. Marsh 3. Kwaja. 4 Ponting 5Clarke 6. Watson 7. Paine 8 Okeefe 9 Starc 10 Pattinson 11. Cummings

  • on November 15, 2011, 6:10 GMT

    @Si Baker, Tom Cooper is dutch.

  • crickprof on November 15, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    @haleos.... at this time AUS need to save Test matches, they need a batsman with solid technique and temperament , khawaja has both these things so he is the most suitable player to be in the 2nd test match.....

  • on November 15, 2011, 0:50 GMT

    (CONTINUED) ----> Callum Ferguson or Tom Cooper slotting in at 5, Watson at 6, Paine coming in for the feeble Haddin at 7, Steve O'Keefe adding some much-needed batting ballast at 8, & Cummins, Copeland & Pattinson as the three new seamers. Such wholesale changes might seem extreme, but I really can't see either the Kiwis or the embarrassingly awful Indian side giving the Aussie youngsters a run for their money. How else are you going to toughen up your kids for 2013?

  • on November 15, 2011, 0:36 GMT

    If the Aussie selectors have a scintilla of common sense & foresight, they'll use the forthcoming series against two of the weaker sides in Test cricket - i.e. New Zealand & India - to chuck out the old guard (as well as some of the youngsters who clearly aren't up to Test standard) & blood a new generation capable of at least *competing* with England in 2013. Hughes, regrettably, really has to go, while Watson has now proved beyond all possible doubt that (a) he simply doesn't have the mental stamina to succeed as an opener & (b) that he *could* become a world-class all-rounder if he's moved down to his natural position at No.6. It goes without saying that Ponting, Haddin & Johnson have all shot their collective bolt, while Hussey is better replaced sooner rather than later, Harris is a walking sick note & Lyon's not yet Test class. Who to replace them with? Easy: Marsh for Watson, the outrageously talented Warner for Hughes, Khawaja at 3, Callum Ferguson slotting in at 5

  • smudgeon on November 14, 2011, 23:47 GMT

    I'm still not entirely convinced by Warner as a long-form player. He can give the ball a fair whack, and to be fair he seems to be working hard and getting results in first-class circles, but...I don't know, I just can't see him as an attacking opener working well in the test team. He still seems unable to leave the good balls as much as a good test player should (even Sehwag, attacking as he is, knows when to leave and when to play). A good accumulator is what Australia need - particularly if Watson is going to continue to open. But I'm assuming he'll be 12th man anyway (Usman could & should play), so it's probably irrelevant to the 2nd test. A good batting all-rounder in the middle-order is probably more important. What's Dan Christian up to these days? And someone below mentions Tom Cooper - I'm not sure, but doesn't his playing for the Netherlands complicate any potential selection for Aus?

  • cricfan800 on November 14, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    Good Decision by Australian board Warner is batsmen like Sehwag..!

  • landl47 on November 14, 2011, 18:15 GMT

    platypusman: Ed Cowan is 29 years old. His first-class average for his career is 35. He's played 3 first-class games this season and scored 5, 11, 6, 20, 25 and 18. Do you seriously think he's a candidate for Australia's test team? If so, the Aus shortage of quality players is even worse than I thought.

  • Haleos on November 14, 2011, 14:43 GMT

    khwaja is too slow. Warner may just pprovide the right kind of impetus. Khwaja in his limited chances has not set the world alight. dont understand the hype behind him. warner has proved himself in just the shorter format so what? If he bats a session like he does, game set and match for Australia. Players like him can win matches. someone like khwaja are needed to save test matches.

  • on November 14, 2011, 12:07 GMT

    Tom Cooper? Ed Cowan?? Forgive me, all you NSW haters out there, but it might be a good idea to check just where these two are from. The only reason they are playing interstate is because they weren't considered good enough to play for NSW at the time.

  • bumsonseats on November 14, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    going by some, hughes scored the most runs in shield cricket last year and looked the best. his technique is the worst in test cricket/and state cricket i guess. so for him to be ahead of warner maybe tells u the state of the bowling stock rather than the skill of the batter. the guys a very good t2020.and his lack of 1st class games for nsw maybe tell what his state think of his 4 day quality batting sometimes at 6/7. his 100 in his last game shoud be tempered with the thought that steve smith also scored a 100 in the same innings. dpk

  • on November 14, 2011, 11:12 GMT

    I thought he's a 20/20 over match player ,not a test player..don't think he not the right sort of guy playing there(test) at least he going to playing 20/20 style into test match...SA will know how to get him out...so back into T20 soon for warner..

  • platypusman on November 14, 2011, 10:24 GMT

    Ed Cowan has performed well the last couple of years in sheild and the 50 over format .He isnt the excitement machine Dave Warner is, but he is the type of batsmen Australia needs at the moment.He would complement Watson ,Clarke Hussey and Ponting. Hard to remove from the middle . Hopefully Kawaja can cement a spot in the middle order.My side for upcoming series would look something like this Watson Cowan Clarke Ponting Kawaja Hussey Wade Harris Copeland Cummins Lyon . With Warner Voges Butterworth Johnson Paine Mcdonald Hughes looking for a place

  • Chris_Howard on November 14, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    Sheesh! People here think they're experts on cricket, but obviously don't really follow it. Warner has been in sensational form in long format for all of this year. His first class average stands at 59 from 10 matches with 3 centuries and 2 fifties. And he comes with the added bonus - like Gilchrist before him - with much experience at international level in other formats. He is one of the form batsmen in first class cricket at the moment, so undoubtedly deserves his chance. Of course, anyone who really followed cricket would know that.

  • on November 14, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    GOOD FOR SA...................

  • landl47 on November 14, 2011, 5:29 GMT

    Let's face it, the selectors only had 2 choices: call up Warner or recall an over-30. I never remember Aus being so short of young talent, and my memory goes back to when Richie Benaud was captain. Warner has ability and may turn out to be a good test player, but he's painfully short of experience in the long form of the game. He's also a very similar player to Hughes and Watson- scores fast but takes a lot of risks and isn't known for the quality of his defence. Still, he has to be given a try sometime. Ponting's already shot and Hussey can't go on for ever. The win against Sri Lanka (a side without a win in its last 14 tests) masked the problems that England exposed in the Ashes. Aus MUST start rebuilding; the longer it's delayed, the longer it will take.

  • Dashgar on November 14, 2011, 1:40 GMT

    While I like that new blood is being brought into the team is a dashing opener with 10 first class games to his name really what we're looking for?

  • Meety on November 14, 2011, 0:10 GMT

    @ Gordo85 - putting the Hussey thing to one side, Warner does boast a FC ave near 60. @smudgeon - LOL! I spilled water on my keyboard when I read that (technique)! I think that's his cut shot? @winsome/hyclass re: Marsh, I'm not a major fan of Marsh's (yet), I thought he showed promise so far, however, with Pup established in the middle order with a degenerative back problem, we can't afford another injury prone cricketer in the middle order. Particularly once Ponting goes, shuffling an order to accommodate an injured player increases the chances of a poor batting return (not 47 runs poor though!).

  • featurewriter on November 13, 2011, 23:24 GMT

    Hey, DavidPK, have you even seen Warner bat at domestic first-class level this season? The guy is proving that versatility and adaptability are core to his game. He has the ability to play smart cricket, as well as go out and completely destroy an opposition. He reminds me of a young Sehwag, and even more destructive than Matty Hayden. I think we have our opening partnership wrong at the moment. Bring in Warner, move Marsh up to open with him, then have Clarke, Hussey, Ponting and Watson, followed by Haddin, Johnson, Harris, Cummins and Lyons. That said, Ponting, Haddin and Hussey will be out of the game within 12 months, which opens the door for Paine, Khawaja and either Butterworth or McDonald as all-rounder options to support Watson.

  • CricketingStargazer on November 13, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    It's fascinating to see Australia picking a short game specialist who has almost as many T20 runs as First Class to play in a Test. It may work (and if it comes off Australia may make 450 in a day) but, if the South Africans are smart, neither opener is going to trouble them for long.

  • on November 13, 2011, 19:49 GMT

    When Marsh recovers from injury he should be opening the batting with Watson and allowing another batsman or bowler to bat down the order. Hughes has enough chances to show his potential at the top of the order but hasnt shown enough substance to warrant a place in the side. Johnson has shown no control with his bowling recently and hasnt taken many wickets. This is the reason why Copeland or cummins comes in to take his place.

    My team for the next test is

    Watson Warner Ponting Hussey Clarke Kawaja Haddin(Wkt) Harris Lyon Siddle Pat Cummins/Copeland

  • Winsome on November 13, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Hey RandyOz, it isn't just at test level, blokes are serially injured. Take a look at the Shield line-ups half of them can't get their first choice attacks on the park at any time over the summer. Whatever is going on with domestic cricket isn't good. I thought NSW was bad for injured bowlers, but Qld and WA are worse.

  • Winsome on November 13, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    Keep bashing Marsh, Hyclass, I'm sure you haven't run out of things to say about him yet. Of course he damaged the team's chances in that test by getting injured. Everybody else did so well, it must have been his fault. Considering he has had to come in and practically open every innings, a bit of grace from you wouldn't go astray.

  • bumsonseats on November 13, 2011, 17:33 GMT

    steve gregory if u read the usual suspects pieces on overseas players playing for england. u may understand the reason they maybe dont play, if they were born other than australia they dont deserve to play cricket for australia by their reasoning. dpk

  • satish619chandar on November 13, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    Picking Warner s worth a try.. If he plays, better they can push Watson down theorder.. You cant afford two flasht players at the top.. Hughes struggle is really surprising.. Is there that much dearth of fast bowlers in Australian domesic who cant be able to use such a massive hole in technique??

  • Biggus on November 13, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    @Steve Gregory-They do play it down here mate. Half the team I play with is Indian. If they're good enough they will play for Australia. At this point Khawaja is the only subcontinental of the required standard. Simple as that.

  • bumsonseats on November 13, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    if selected best tell warner its a test match not T2020 played in india. dpk

  • on November 13, 2011, 15:18 GMT

    Come on give a chance to Usman Khawaja he must be better then Warner in Tests ...

  • on November 13, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    warner is good enuff to play test, stop hating, he might just be exactly what the Aussie need

  • Mary_786 on November 13, 2011, 15:04 GMT

    Great to see Khawaja back in the side, he is needed to bring the stability to the lineup, champion batsman. Warner should replace hughes.

  • on November 13, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    @Michael Inglis Warner has a first class average of 59.66! the highest for an Australian!

  • on November 13, 2011, 14:37 GMT

    better watson come down at 6 or 7 order and bat,..ponting will join with hughes to bat no 1 &2....

  • on November 13, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    with all these Indian,Pakistanis an SriLankan refugees in Australia why aren't they taking up cricket they live for it over in their countries you never know they prob better than the Aussie team now?

  • on November 13, 2011, 14:28 GMT

    katich is any time a much better player than Hughes.

  • Okakaboka on November 13, 2011, 13:49 GMT

    Has anyone checked to see if Pete Siddle has finished writing his lines for causing Australia to loose the last test. Someone tell him he can come out of the naughty corner now. Reading the comments, clearly the NSW bloggers haven't forgiven him yet! We all know Cummins or Copeland would have won us that match.....even with Australia making about 29 in the second innings!

  • on November 13, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    Warner, you're kidding me right, he's an under par test player. What am I on about under par, he shouldn't even be on the test squad! Bring on Usman Khawaja!!!!

  • L.P.Grace on November 13, 2011, 13:12 GMT

    If it's only to cover be 12th man for a game, than why not go with Phil Jacques or Chris Rogers. Both are better batsmen who've already earnt their caps and don't improve playing first-class cricket. Warner needs to PLAY as much first-class cricket as possible so we can actually evaluate his skills.

  • YadavAjay on November 13, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    Warner in the test team ?????/ This must be the joke of the year !!!! Better play Khwaja... @Mohammed Mansoor Ali: Drop Hussey??? Seriously!!! He is the best man in business not only in Aussie team but in the whole world... Tell me better no. 6

  • on November 13, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    I think it could be worth slotting in Warner at he top of the order with Hughes, moving everybody else up one and Watson to 6 ... Be worth a try, even only for this series. Of course katich should still be opening!

  • KumarSubramanyan on November 13, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Play Warner...who knows..Australia may unearth another Sehwag by accident..

  • on November 13, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    Good call with Warner. Can't believe I just typed that. But he genuinely appears to have learned how to play long-form cricket.

    Chris Lynn from Queensland would be the only other real option in my opinion.

    Khawaja should be the one who plays though. And should keep his place at the expense of Ponting when we return home to face New Zealand.

  • on November 13, 2011, 11:45 GMT

    Better replacement for Aussies at this time.

    They Should open with Watson and Warner.

    No 3 should be Ponting

    then follows Khawaja, Clarke, Hussey, Haddin, Johnson, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle and Nathan Lyon.

  • Muzgrob on November 13, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    Lol @ you people saying Warner has no proven first class form or only list A form... 16 innings averaging 59... But yeah, no form there to indicate he could play test cricket, he scored 148 in his most recent first class outing and batted well in the first class matches on the Australia A tour... Do your research people.

  • BigLeo on November 13, 2011, 11:38 GMT

    What a Joke WARNER cover for Marsh,what wrong with Usman Khawaja,maybe can teach the our batmen to play real cricket shot.

  • jonesy2 on November 13, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    warner should open with usman. warner probably the most talented batsman yet to play test cricket in the world and will be a huge part of australia's future so get him in there. will be a great of test cricket, unbelievable talent. such shocking luck for marsh who was dominating at test level and looking to keep showing his own immense talent. hughes im afraid has michael bevan syndrome.

  • on November 13, 2011, 11:25 GMT

    people talk same abt Mathew Hayden. he's too much flashy. he cant play test cricket. he proved everyone wrong. ;)

  • Shaunnn on November 13, 2011, 11:23 GMT

    Let get as many from NSW in the squad as we can! Surely Tom Cooper is the in form Batsman of the moment. Lets select players on form, not potential, and just because the play for NSW

  • AdoSR on November 13, 2011, 11:09 GMT

    People don't seem to get it. The selectors have shown that they are after youth and raw talent. David Hussey is briiliant, but he doesn't fit the rebuilding bill. It's time to take risks. Those risks include being bowled out for embarrassing scores. But we are after future match winners. If you aren't under 25 (Hussey), and don't have the potential to win a test single-handedly (Vogues), then you won't be picked. If you are, then you'll be given every chance (Hughes). We Ozy supporters are going to have to suffer for a while yet.

  • ajayrcs on November 13, 2011, 11:04 GMT

    Still I don't think its Australian batsmen fault if anyone saw the match it was a sudden change in pitch condition which made wickets to tumble. If you see scoreboard carefully South africa lost 9wkts for 47 runs and Australia lost 10 wkts for 47 runs. but one have to blame Australian bowlig attack no able to defend 200+ runs. lets say pitch condition became better during SA 2nd inning, but Johnson, Harris, Siddle not able to swing as much as South African's did its watson who swung the ball. So its bowlers taking australia down not batsmen.Johnson should improve give Pattinson a chance instead of Siddle.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on November 13, 2011, 10:59 GMT

    Is this selection by the new panel or the old? The old I'm guessing given the Hilditch quote. Id go for broke with a top 6 of Warner Hughes (to be replaced by Marsh for NZ) Khawaja Clarke Hussey & Watson. I would have pulled Wade out of the Shield game and had him on the plane with Warner too.

  • on November 13, 2011, 10:52 GMT

    Did we sack the selectors yet? Warner in a test squad?

  • chad_reid on November 13, 2011, 10:39 GMT

    good play him in place of hughes n khawja in place pf marsh. im sick and tired of saying this but please get rid of hughes and keep him in the team for slip practise he is the perfect man for that job

  • on November 13, 2011, 10:34 GMT

    Remove Hussey ,Hughes Ponting & haddin from the team & bring in George Bailey ,Michael klinger,tim paine & others in the team :D

  • StewEdrich on November 13, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    I think there's a bit too much over-reaction here. Plus everyone seems to forget that Usman Khawaja is next in line. Warner was selected as cover when Ponting missed the 2nd test in Sri Lanka due to the birth of his child. So this is not a new thing. Warner didn't play and Shaun Marsh was selected in Ponting's spot at # 3, and went on to score a great debut century. This pushed Khawaja out because he didn't get the opportunity because he was batting at # 6 in that Test. (Ussie only got to face 30 balls and was 13 not out). He was unlucky so it will be great to see him get the opportunity this week. Hopefully he can score a good hundred before the summer so he can secure a spot. If Warner goes in before him it will be greatly surprising.

  • D-Train on November 13, 2011, 10:22 GMT

    If he's only a 20/20 player, then explain why Warner has a first class average of nearly 60? Although he hasn't played that many games, he has proven he can score in this format, he is definitely in form and he has had plenty of exposure against top class international bowlers.

    Somebody commented saying why not Quiney, Lynn, Voges or Klinger. I admit Voges is unlucky, but Klinger is a good state player and that is it. Was in fantastic form a few seasons ago, but has definitely dropped off since then. Stats show he's not quite good enough for international level.

    Quiney is far too inconsistent and isn't international standard.

    Pretty sure Lynn has played less games than Warner

  • on November 13, 2011, 10:11 GMT

    Thats a very good move. Warner will shine like Veru for India. All the best warner. Huges is a big waste. Not sure how he is playing for Aus anymore. That to at the exps of Katish.

  • hyclass on November 13, 2011, 9:56 GMT

    I wouldnt move Hughes from the top of the order.If I had to give the kid one instruction,it would be to play with cheek & attitude & go after the bowlers.He came into the side as a bona fide champion.By looking at Youtube,Hughes 115 & 160 v SA,its easy to see that every piece of press from both the SA & the Nielsen & Hilditch was utter rubbish.They started a campaign in the media about his technique to justify bringing Watson into the side for the 09 Ashes.They wanted an all-rounder to compete with Flintoff.Their idea was to match the Eng squad,style for style.It wasnt until Nielsen & co forced him to change his technique before the Lions game in England 09,that he had a problem.1637 runs in10 games-8-100s before Nielsen. The information is in the public arena.Hughes & Clarke played their best innings in years in the 3rd Test in SL when Nielsen announced his retirement.It wasnt a coincidence.This team is rattled by the worst selectors,coaches & adminstrators in CA history-so says Argus

  • on November 13, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    Maybe you should actually go down the SCG one day and watch Warner bat in a first class match. Lots of arm chair critics dissing Warner when I bet none of you have seen him play in a first class match.

  • gogoldengreens on November 13, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    @Gordo85 David Hussey is a great player however picking him would be just adding to our existing problems of having too many players in their mid thirties! Need to cull a few in that age bracket not introduce more of them...

  • hyclass on November 13, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Is there a single sane cricket follower actually listening to the sociopathic Hilditch? Warners form for NSW equates to a List A game & a Shield innings against Sth Australia,the competitions weakest attack at the diminutive Bankstown Oval on a super flat wicket on which virtually everyone got runs.Ive spoken at length about the limitations of both Marsh & Warner.Only a bloody fool would ignore 11 years of Marshes form & injuries - problems that have now come back to damage Australia at Test level.In each innings for Australia,Marsh has had the good fortune to edge through slips early on.Good luck to him,but at some point,the law of averages that has given him his modest career record,will balance itself out at Test level,as it has done for everyone else. Warner is unproven on bouncing wickets.All of his runs have come on flat tracks and small grounds against modest attacks.His T20I and ODI record in SA at the start of this tour is 0,0,20,74 and 10. I find that far more revealing.

  • Dashgar on November 13, 2011, 9:32 GMT

    Pity we couldn't bring in more replacements. Half the team needs to be dropped after last games' performance. Hughes will go but Ponting and Haddin have to be dropped for the NZ series.

  • on November 13, 2011, 9:27 GMT

    Another extraordinary decision from Hilditch and co. Is this their "naa na na naa naa" moment on their way out? I quite like Warner, but other than a good knock against SA, he has done nothing to justify test squad selection and would be better off continuing his Shield career. But of course, he's from NSW!

  • DarkBatter on November 13, 2011, 9:26 GMT

    Warner deserves a go as he's going really well in FC cricket, but this can't be Australia's opening combination. A good opening combo needs an aggressor and someone who can provide a solid backbone to the partnership (eg HAYDEN/Langer, WATSON/Katich, SEHWAG/Gambhir, STRAUSS/Cook, etc.) This allows the team to start well, but if things go wrong, someone is there to steady the ship. Thats why Watto was doing so well with Katich as his partner; he could play with confidence and know that Katich would still be there if he got out. With Hughes/Watson, there are two aggressors, so they can't both play their natural game and if they do, they risk both being out and putting Australia in a poor position. So, while Warner does deserve a go, Australia need to look at getting in one aggressive batsman and one stable batsman as openers, maybe dropping Watson to no. 6.

  • chandau on November 13, 2011, 9:17 GMT

    Isnt it funny; there r 6 state sides = 12 openers and OZ cannot find 2 decent men; Watson is not an opener and even Katich was converted into opening. Also Haddin seems to be past it. Just shows how useless the selectors are when they cant find a decent 15 from 70 top class cricketers. Or is it that State cricket in OZ is now not that good?

  • smudgeon on November 13, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Judging by that photo, Dave Warner's technique is a little unorthodox. Is that a leaping one-hand cow shot off a beamer?

  • azzaman333 on November 13, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    All I can say is at least he has a better technique than Hughes...

  • whitesXI on November 13, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    Warner is the right man to fly over without question, Khawaja will play, but the fact that Warner is being recognised in this format is a good indication that selectors are re-evaluating players based on form. Warner has improved out of sight and shouldn't be thought of as a short form player for the rest of his life just coz he started that way. @Gordo85 this means that selectors have realised their mistake in regard to D Hussey who should have made the test squad instead of North.

  • Wozza-CY on November 13, 2011, 8:56 GMT

    @Gordo85- I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the reason D.Hussey hasn't been given a run in tests is because there is a perception he has a weakness to the short ball? Apparently this is not as big a concern in the shorter formats. If that's the case, it would be beneficial to give the player the right of reply & give him the opportunity to contradict that. Dusseys FC stats are worthy of at least a few games right? Especially when we pick an offspinner who bats 11 & bowls 3 overs in a test (Lyon in Capetown). Bat Watto at 6, Dussey at 7 & move Haddin to 8 & pick three seamers. From this move, you can only assume there has been a line drawn in the sand from the 'ageist' selection policy involiving Katich. That means anyone over 33-34 can kiss their national selection hopes goodbye. I'm a fan of Warners & hope to see him in the team soon, but I would have had Dussey in there anyway.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:53 GMT

    Wish Wade was available as a replacement there. It is high time he plays serious cricket for Australia. For me, I'd dump Siddle and Lyon and play both Copeland and Cummins. There are other bowlers I'd prefer but out of this squad I'd prefer them. Siddle is a big trier but right now he isn't in the best form.

  • stickman75 on November 13, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    yer yer yer dave warner over hughes dont worry we have all heard it.

  • Okakaboka on November 13, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    Ahh!...but @Gordo85....You forgot the rules mate! The replacement must come from NSW because they said so the same as it was Siddle's fault we lost and he must be replaced by another NSW player in Copeland. Um, we keep the worst State wicket keeper in Australia (Haddin) because he is also from NSW. Warner is a 20\20 player...that's it! Would you keep a player who bats like Glen McGrath? Well, that is what Haddin is now batting like. Surely, no one honestly thinks Haddin should be retained. I'd stick the Gloves on Ponting before letting Haddin represent Australia again! As for Johnston.......geezzzzzzz...We bowl over here and we bowl over there....we bowl everywhere......and he can't bat!

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:28 GMT

    @Gordo85 - His average in first class cricket is 60. He has the goods, hopefully gets a shot. Hughes needs to step up but I think the more important issue is getting Watson down the order. He admitted it himself, he couldn't get into batting mode fast enough after bowling.

  • Winsome on November 13, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    This could be the end of Shaun Marsh in test cricket. It only needs a flat track at the Wanderers and the Aussie FTB's will be out in force.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:20 GMT

    Australian Cricket will continue to struggle while the selectors keep on being bias. David Warner? Honestly? Yes.. He does average 59.66 in FC cricket but cmon selectors, he has had 16 Innings!! Why not reward someone like Michael Klinger? Who has been a run scoring machine- and when he scores hundreds, there generally big hundreds- in a State side that has struggled since he joined them. What about Adam Voges (great form, consistent performer), Robert Quiney, Chris Lynn (Whos returned from injury). Until ALL selectors can see past the NSW Blues cover over their eyes Australian Cricket will continue to be inconsistent and frustrating. Which will just give the media and supporters more Ammo when we continue to not succeed in the Test Arena.

  • Bytheway on November 13, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    Warner should have been picked ahead of Hughes. He has developed into a classy batsman. I don't expect miracles, but this is definitely the best thing the Australian selectors have done in a long, long time.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    Warner? Test Match? 2012 is upon us.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    Good to hear. This bloke could be anything. Should be preferred to Hughes.

  • jmcilhinney on November 13, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Tough break for Marsh. If you had to choose Australian batsmen to keep at the moment, he'd probably be in the top three with Clarke and Hussey. If Khawaja does come in and plays well and Ponting fails again, there is going to be a big decision to be made for the next test series Australia play. Ponting is still a good batsmen but to be out of form at his age with Marsh and Khawaja, who are both obviously players of the future, playing well, the new selectors may just decide that the future is now. Another failure from Hughes and Warner may get to take the next step too.

  • RandyOZ on November 13, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Ussie will come in. Seriously Shaun's injuries are as annoying as Harris.' Why can't we produce fit cricketers these days? Are they doing too much, or are we putting them through too much training, etc? Warney loved a smoke and a cheese toastie yet he was the greatest bowler ever. Maybe time to cut back on the fitness and concentrate on skills.

  • Buggsy on November 13, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Well I think it's only fair that Khawaja plays, but really he should be in the side anyway at the expense of Ponting. Still, looking forward to the day that Warner debuts, he's been doing a lot of damage in domestic cricket lately.

  • 1st_april on November 13, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    David Warner has performed well in 1st class cricket and so he deserves his spot....hopefully a HALF-DECENT PACE BOWLER CAN NOW COME IN FOR MITCHELL JOHNSON!!

  • boris6491 on November 13, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    Thats a real blow for the Aussies. Marsh was the only one performed credibly in the first innings apart from Clarke and he has definitely been one of the only batters to have looked the part on this tour in the longer form. It's disappointing that one of our more talented batters is constantly stricken down by an injury such as this but unfortunately, this isn't really down to fitness. It can come and go and there really is nothing you can do about it. I only hope he recovers soon.

  • Gordo85 on November 13, 2011, 8:02 GMT

    This is a joke right? This is a farce if it happens because everyone has been telling me over the years David Hussey can't play Test Cricket because he is a shorter form specialist, you just have to look at his record to know he can play First Class the four day game pretty much just as well. And now David Warner is going to play a Test match and yet he is the same as David Hussey more a less. I hope Usman plays but not Warner I will never forgive cricket Australia for this and it looks like I shall not be going for Australia again for a very long time. South Africa all the way 12 years young and still going for them.

  • on November 13, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Omg first good election by hilditch........

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  • on November 13, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Omg first good election by hilditch........

  • Gordo85 on November 13, 2011, 8:02 GMT

    This is a joke right? This is a farce if it happens because everyone has been telling me over the years David Hussey can't play Test Cricket because he is a shorter form specialist, you just have to look at his record to know he can play First Class the four day game pretty much just as well. And now David Warner is going to play a Test match and yet he is the same as David Hussey more a less. I hope Usman plays but not Warner I will never forgive cricket Australia for this and it looks like I shall not be going for Australia again for a very long time. South Africa all the way 12 years young and still going for them.

  • boris6491 on November 13, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    Thats a real blow for the Aussies. Marsh was the only one performed credibly in the first innings apart from Clarke and he has definitely been one of the only batters to have looked the part on this tour in the longer form. It's disappointing that one of our more talented batters is constantly stricken down by an injury such as this but unfortunately, this isn't really down to fitness. It can come and go and there really is nothing you can do about it. I only hope he recovers soon.

  • 1st_april on November 13, 2011, 8:04 GMT

    David Warner has performed well in 1st class cricket and so he deserves his spot....hopefully a HALF-DECENT PACE BOWLER CAN NOW COME IN FOR MITCHELL JOHNSON!!

  • Buggsy on November 13, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Well I think it's only fair that Khawaja plays, but really he should be in the side anyway at the expense of Ponting. Still, looking forward to the day that Warner debuts, he's been doing a lot of damage in domestic cricket lately.

  • RandyOZ on November 13, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Ussie will come in. Seriously Shaun's injuries are as annoying as Harris.' Why can't we produce fit cricketers these days? Are they doing too much, or are we putting them through too much training, etc? Warney loved a smoke and a cheese toastie yet he was the greatest bowler ever. Maybe time to cut back on the fitness and concentrate on skills.

  • jmcilhinney on November 13, 2011, 8:12 GMT

    Tough break for Marsh. If you had to choose Australian batsmen to keep at the moment, he'd probably be in the top three with Clarke and Hussey. If Khawaja does come in and plays well and Ponting fails again, there is going to be a big decision to be made for the next test series Australia play. Ponting is still a good batsmen but to be out of form at his age with Marsh and Khawaja, who are both obviously players of the future, playing well, the new selectors may just decide that the future is now. Another failure from Hughes and Warner may get to take the next step too.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    Good to hear. This bloke could be anything. Should be preferred to Hughes.

  • on November 13, 2011, 8:15 GMT

    Warner? Test Match? 2012 is upon us.

  • Bytheway on November 13, 2011, 8:16 GMT

    Warner should have been picked ahead of Hughes. He has developed into a classy batsman. I don't expect miracles, but this is definitely the best thing the Australian selectors have done in a long, long time.