The Ashes 2013-14 November 27, 2013

England 'rattled' by sledging - Johnson

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Mitchell Johnson has told England not to expect any let-up in the verbal barrage they will receive from the Australians when the second Test begins in Adelaide next week. The match referee for the series, Jeff Crowe, is set to speak to both captains, Michael Clarke and Alastair Cook, ahead of the second Test in an effort to ease tensions and remind the players of their on-field responsibilities after the sledging that occurred in the dying stages of Australia's win in Brisbane.

Clarke was fined 20% of his match fee for telling England's No.11 James Anderson to "get ready for a broken f***ing arm", a comment that was broadcast by the stump microphone, but no other players faced any such sanctions. However, commentator Shane Warne later claimed that Clarke was only sticking up for short-leg fieldsman George Bailey, who had been engaged in some verbals with Anderson leading up to Clarke's comment.

"I think it's worked for us. I definitely think they're rattled by it," Johnson, who was Man of the Match at the Gabba for his nine wickets, told reporters in Perth on Wednesday. "They don't like it at all. Obviously their coach has come out and wanted a truce from what I've heard. That's not going to change from our end.

"It was pretty quiet the whole match until sort of closer to the end and we know there's definitely tension there, there always has been. I thought it was really good what Michael did as a captain, that's what you want your captain to do, to stand up for the players and that's what he did.

"It was really exciting to see. It just happened to be that the stump mike was up at that time. There were obviously other things that were said that weren't heard. It was nothing unusual. But I was really happy with how he stood up for the team."

Channel Nine's head of sport, Steve Crawley, offered an apology to Clarke following the broadcasting of his comment to Anderson, saying that the dialogue should not have been broadcast via the stump microphone. Fast bowler Peter Siddle said he expected sledging from both teams to continue as the tour progressed.

"Throughout the series there will be more of it going on but it will be under control," Siddle said. "Anderson brought it on himself. So fair's fair. There was a lot of other stuff going on and James Anderson was in the thick of it and a culprit for it all happening. He is one of the leading wicket-takers in the world so he is happy to have a chirp but as long as Mitchell Johnson keeps bowling them around his ears that will quieten him up pretty quickly."

However, the sledging debate rose to another level when England's Jonathan Trott returned home following the first Test due to a stress-related illness, although the England camp was at pains to say that Trott's departure did not have anything to do with comments from David Warner that Trott's batting had been "pretty poor and pretty weak". Johnson, who has at time struggled under the weight of pressure and expectations, said he had been surprised by the news about Trott.

"It was a real shock for me," Johnson said. "It can be tough at times when it's not going so well. You start to think about every little thing that's going on in your life when you should be focusing on one thing. It seems maybe he's thinking that way at the moment, and just needs to just get away from the game.

"For me, when I had my toe injury, it was great to get away to freshen up mentally. I just wish Trott the best. Hopefully he can come back later in the tour or in the future, because he's a great player for England and he's done exceptionally well."

Australia's players are spending some time in their home cities during the break between Tests, while England prepare to take on a Cricket Australia Chairman's XI in a two-day tour match in Alice Springs. The second Test begins at the refurbished Adelaide Oval on Thursday next week.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on November 30, 2013, 1:51 GMT

    Bring it on Aus, just need a couple more Yorkies in the team, Bresnan, Bairstow, Ballance? and we'll be ready for anything, including the verbals.

  • on November 29, 2013, 23:22 GMT

    Mr. James Anderson as for you like they say " what goes around comes around "

  • JG2704 on November 29, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    @Rajendra Rele on (November 28, 2013, 19:04 GMT) Probably best you read up about stress/mental illness which is a general thing - not exclusive to cricket. Re Cricketing matters , Cook and spine. This is a big test for him but if you're comparing Cook with Strauss - please could you tell me who was leading the side in India , coming back from a 1st test inns defeat and scoring runs for fun and who led the side when they were beaten 3-0 in UAE inc not being able to chase a 150 target in one of the tests?

    I tried posting a more detailed post re this but for some reason Cricinfo deemed it unfit for publication

  • kuinton on November 29, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding You are delicious but wrong on this issue. The "Spirit of Cricket" clause appears in the preamble to the laws and IS part of the current code of laws of cricket. Of course enforcing penalties for contraventions of the "Spirit of Cricket" is up to the umpires; however this is the case for ALL of the laws (bearing in mind that despite there being two modes of adjudication of the appeal for dismissal, a batsman is most likely not going to declare himself out and the onus is on the umpire). Sledging is illegal under the current code of laws of cricket.

  • Shaggy076 on November 28, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    Rajendra Rele ; There have been no threats, just the disclosure of tactics. As for the English scared I doubt that, they just had a bad game however, I can see that it is a lot more intimidating for England than going to India - that was quite easy for them. I don't think Lehmann desperate, he started coaching a team in turmoil with no time to prepare and this is the first series he has prepared them for. There is a difference between desperation and determination, and we have only lost two tests on Australian soil in the last 3 seasons, whilst winning 11 so this isn't a great turn-up.

  • topspeed55 on November 28, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    I think Cricket Australia needs help. They desperately need to learn the definition of cricket. Its a contest of bat and ball and not the mouth. Mouth is only required when you appeal for a decision. But if a team is sledging in spite of winning or losing then its a disease.

  • bbumbum on November 28, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    Make sledging legal, get a few more microphones around the pitch. ICC can make more $ for TV rights. It would make TESTS more fun to watch. Everybody wins.

  • on November 28, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    Honestly I've been reading the threats exchanged between the two teams on here and its comical... I mean grown men battling for national honour, a place in history and in Australia's case honestly the fig leaf thats barely covering its modesty as a cricketing power are only saying this ball is going to break your arm and I am going to beat you etc etc... its school yard stuff.....I say turn on the mic to the public it will be fun....Australia have no choice but to throw evertyhing at England.....you can see the desperation in Lehmanns eyes....he needs it....England instead of stuttering so funnily need to realise that they are one blow away from sending Australia back to the Kim Hughes days....I cant understand why England come to Australia scared after winning the Ashes at home, this is the second time... I think Strauss inspired more spine in the team than Cook....

  • on November 28, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    Can some English person please explain why English players run home with depression or stress related issues ? When Dhoni and folks were getting hammered many of them could have jumped ship...ditto for Clarke and co who went through so much on his last two tours. Trott is a world leading batsmen and one of the key hopes of test cricket, his style is the style that defines batting for tests, how can he torpedo his own career like this ? What is so stress inducing that you have to go home...that too after being worked over for only one test....Clarke has been worked over and over and is still standing......Its obvious that Aus are gonna come hard...England can come harder at them.....This bizzarely shows that England has gone backwards despite being on a winning streak....can someone explain that......Its not as if Johnson has appeared from the sky for the first time.....This means England is a mentally weak team, it may become a technically strong outfit again, but mentally weak....

  • YorkshirePudding on November 28, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    @kuinton, the spirit of the game is not the Laws of the game, the spirit is a guideline, and as long as it stops when the bowler starts his approach then there is no problem, if a player shouted at the batsman at the point of delivery or threw something in his eyeline then that would probably be deemed as unfair play by the umpire.

    Saying something between deliveries is acceptable.

  • on November 30, 2013, 1:51 GMT

    Bring it on Aus, just need a couple more Yorkies in the team, Bresnan, Bairstow, Ballance? and we'll be ready for anything, including the verbals.

  • on November 29, 2013, 23:22 GMT

    Mr. James Anderson as for you like they say " what goes around comes around "

  • JG2704 on November 29, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    @Rajendra Rele on (November 28, 2013, 19:04 GMT) Probably best you read up about stress/mental illness which is a general thing - not exclusive to cricket. Re Cricketing matters , Cook and spine. This is a big test for him but if you're comparing Cook with Strauss - please could you tell me who was leading the side in India , coming back from a 1st test inns defeat and scoring runs for fun and who led the side when they were beaten 3-0 in UAE inc not being able to chase a 150 target in one of the tests?

    I tried posting a more detailed post re this but for some reason Cricinfo deemed it unfit for publication

  • kuinton on November 29, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding You are delicious but wrong on this issue. The "Spirit of Cricket" clause appears in the preamble to the laws and IS part of the current code of laws of cricket. Of course enforcing penalties for contraventions of the "Spirit of Cricket" is up to the umpires; however this is the case for ALL of the laws (bearing in mind that despite there being two modes of adjudication of the appeal for dismissal, a batsman is most likely not going to declare himself out and the onus is on the umpire). Sledging is illegal under the current code of laws of cricket.

  • Shaggy076 on November 28, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    Rajendra Rele ; There have been no threats, just the disclosure of tactics. As for the English scared I doubt that, they just had a bad game however, I can see that it is a lot more intimidating for England than going to India - that was quite easy for them. I don't think Lehmann desperate, he started coaching a team in turmoil with no time to prepare and this is the first series he has prepared them for. There is a difference between desperation and determination, and we have only lost two tests on Australian soil in the last 3 seasons, whilst winning 11 so this isn't a great turn-up.

  • topspeed55 on November 28, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    I think Cricket Australia needs help. They desperately need to learn the definition of cricket. Its a contest of bat and ball and not the mouth. Mouth is only required when you appeal for a decision. But if a team is sledging in spite of winning or losing then its a disease.

  • bbumbum on November 28, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    Make sledging legal, get a few more microphones around the pitch. ICC can make more $ for TV rights. It would make TESTS more fun to watch. Everybody wins.

  • on November 28, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    Honestly I've been reading the threats exchanged between the two teams on here and its comical... I mean grown men battling for national honour, a place in history and in Australia's case honestly the fig leaf thats barely covering its modesty as a cricketing power are only saying this ball is going to break your arm and I am going to beat you etc etc... its school yard stuff.....I say turn on the mic to the public it will be fun....Australia have no choice but to throw evertyhing at England.....you can see the desperation in Lehmanns eyes....he needs it....England instead of stuttering so funnily need to realise that they are one blow away from sending Australia back to the Kim Hughes days....I cant understand why England come to Australia scared after winning the Ashes at home, this is the second time... I think Strauss inspired more spine in the team than Cook....

  • on November 28, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    Can some English person please explain why English players run home with depression or stress related issues ? When Dhoni and folks were getting hammered many of them could have jumped ship...ditto for Clarke and co who went through so much on his last two tours. Trott is a world leading batsmen and one of the key hopes of test cricket, his style is the style that defines batting for tests, how can he torpedo his own career like this ? What is so stress inducing that you have to go home...that too after being worked over for only one test....Clarke has been worked over and over and is still standing......Its obvious that Aus are gonna come hard...England can come harder at them.....This bizzarely shows that England has gone backwards despite being on a winning streak....can someone explain that......Its not as if Johnson has appeared from the sky for the first time.....This means England is a mentally weak team, it may become a technically strong outfit again, but mentally weak....

  • YorkshirePudding on November 28, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    @kuinton, the spirit of the game is not the Laws of the game, the spirit is a guideline, and as long as it stops when the bowler starts his approach then there is no problem, if a player shouted at the batsman at the point of delivery or threw something in his eyeline then that would probably be deemed as unfair play by the umpire.

    Saying something between deliveries is acceptable.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 28, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @DaveMorton, I agree entirely. I have been to many Australia vs Eng events in both countries and it has always been excellent fun and really good natured. Let's hope those who report on these things remember that cricket stories still interest us and I hope this series isn't remembered for being mean spirited. I'll add to that that both teams play hard and none is more hostile than the other. It's all handshakes afterwards.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 28, 2013, 10:27 GMT

    It does seem to me that it is mostly the sub continent that does not accept sledging, (now I am in trouble with every one). maybe it can be like the DRS) everywhere its accepted except.......

  • DaveMorton on November 28, 2013, 10:16 GMT

    I fly out to Adelaide on Saturday for what will be my 4th Ashes trip as a spectator. Relations between the two sets of supporters have always been excellent. My first two trips, the Aussies were on top. We sang of the 'mighty, mighty England' and they laughed. Last time we got our own back.

    Both ways it was all good fun, and the Australian people must be the most hospitable and friendly on earth. I don't think a few words out on the pitch will alter that, but I fear that some of the journalism might sour the atmosphere.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 28, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    @neil99, I think you need a hug too. I don't advocate sledging but I also don't want the aggression reigned in. There's always lawn bowls if you can't handle cricket. Anderson started this dialogue because he is a competitor as are the other guys.

  • pauldk on November 28, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    This is just escalating. Not because of the players, but because of the fans and the English media. As Marcio on (November 27, 2013, 10:38 GMT) rightly said: "It would be nice if people actually thought before they posted." Everything Australian players or officials say about playing aggressively is now immediately turned into threats of physical violence by the posters, and all sledge is automatically labelled 'ugly' even though nobody outside the field knows what's being said. Even the headlines in the media do not reflect what the article is about ... only sensational headlines sell. And to all those "saved" posters who prefer sledging outlawed (meaning that there is no talk or chatter on the field) try to mute your TV next time you watch a match and see for how long you can be captivated by just seeing a bowler running in and a ball being hit. No, the big matches like the Ashes are all about the drama and who will have enough stamina to get through to the finish in the last test.

  • kuinton on November 28, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    The MCC Laws of Cricket clearly states in plain English that Sledging is ILLEGAL. "It's against the Spirit of Cricket to seek to distract an opponent either verbally or by harassment..."

    So what's the point of debating it? Either change the rules and keep sledging or stop behaving like Neanderthals, stop sledging and play a fair game of cricket.

    It seems like the Spirit of Cricket is only applied when it's convenient for the ICC to apply it. For those crying foul about Clarke... It's clearly against the Spirit of Cricket to threaten violence.

  • milepost on November 28, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    Agree @Paul Lydon, enough with the sledging. I like @Front-Foot-Lunge's way of thinking on Johnson actually, by that same reasoning the English batsman will be due to score some runs at some point in the next few years! Does anyone else have the audacity to suggest Johnson was lucky in Brisbane and in fact the 9 batsman he dismissed were unlucky? Is a 381 run hiding just luck? What grand delusions lol!

  • jackiethepen on November 28, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    I'm so glad I didn't go to Australia for the Ashes. I really enjoyed in 2010 the opening game at the Gabba. It was a lifetime's dream to be there at the famous mecca of cricket. I thought the Australian fans were extremely friendly and sporting. The media likewise. The game was intense until the last couple of days when the wicket flattened. But the humour and good nature of the crowds was extremely pleasant. To sit for five days in a hostile crowd is not attractive. Once you lose manners then the families and fans will just not come to the grounds. There's always been a lot of drinking but never any bad language or violence. Imagine how that could change. If swearing and threats disrupt or break down the attention of the batsman what has that to do with skill? If England are guilty of it then fine or suspend them too

  • on November 28, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    Australia's play was outstanding in the first test!They dont need to sledge or threaten to sledge but just to keep bowling like they have so far and build on their second innings batting performance. ENOUGH ABOUT THE SLEDGING ALREADY!!Batting, bowling and fielding is where the game will be one and Australia shade England in all three departments.I can comfortably say that now with Trott's absence and the need for Engalnd to play at least 1 more debutant and possibly another in Adelaide.The friendlier batting conditions will play into Australia's hands more with Warner, Clarke and Haddin already being in great form and the likes of Rogers, Watson and Smith having more opportunity to get going.Our bowlers have superior pace and stamina to be able to sustain pressure of the long term and Siddle in particular see's the adelaide test as his opportunity to shine because of his ability to bowl long accurate spells. England on the other hand have lost a lot of Experience with Trott's absence.

  • on November 28, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    The poms need to harden up basically. In previous series the barmy army abused Mitchell Johnson the whole time he was on the field. Like him or hate him from an Aussie point of view, but Stuart Broad showed in this match the best way to deal with it - play through it.

  • Biggus on November 28, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    @GRVJPR:-I've learnt my only Hindi swear words by watching India play mate, so it's really a cultural exchange program. Our guys go on TV to teach you guys English swear words and in exchange Indians teach us how to swear in Hindi. I'd call that evens.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 28, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    @F on (November 28, 2013, 5:44 GMT) : not at all old boy, I've been on here every day,do check it out. I have a job to go to during the day which means I'm unavailable to sit in front of a screen all day long, I wish I could :)

  • GRVJPR on November 28, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    Both these teams are bad for cricket. They teach yungsters watching some really bad words and they call it hardcore cricket, while in reality it is a softcore game.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 28, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    @ Mick Spry on (November 28, 2013, 5:44 GMT) after a successful comeback from stress related mental issues you would think Mitch Johnson could get the same respect that Flower asks for his players mate.

  • gm47 on November 28, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    @CrikiLeaks The only threat of violence came from Anderson.

    Did you hear that or as I guess you believe what others are suggesting….it's just a cover up job.

    Don't worry normal service will resume in the next few tests when Australia are put back in their place :)

  • Shaggy076 on November 28, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    Jarrod: Clarke scored two double tons against South Africa in 3 tests, not sure what your getting at.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 28, 2013, 5:45 GMT

    @Shaggy076, (and partly in response to dungar.bob) I havent read the book, as I dont buy 'biographies' from players who have not finished thier careers, unless its about a series, eg Andrew Strauss's Ashes 2010/11 diary.

    The main reason for this is that they tend to be very bland and you have to buy another bio once they leave the game.

  • on November 28, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 27, 2013, 22:32 GMT) Johnson is hilarious. Even he must surely be aware of the fact that he's been smashed around by England for so long that eventually he was going to pick up a couple of wickets one day. As soon as he does, he's the one who can't stop opening his mouth, which is always a telling sign.

    Welcome back FFL did not think we would here from you until England won again!!

  • on November 28, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    This is ridiculous!! The Aussies didnt win by hurling abuse at England. They won on the 2nd and 3rd days with some brilliant bowling and awesome batting! Most of the battle of words happened when the match was all but finished!!. My advice to Johnson is to concentrate on his bowling. We all know hes a confidence bowler, and 1 or 2 little hiccups and his confidence goes, and hes bowling off the pitch down to 3rd slip, looking bad

  • 2020sux on November 28, 2013, 4:44 GMT

    banter/sledging is fine, but the line must be drawn at physical threats. and to be honest few things are more distasteful than seeing men who have neither the inclination nor ability to back it up making threats of violence. I would expect little better from Warner but Clarke needs to carry himself with more dignity and respect for his position.

  • page8383 on November 28, 2013, 4:09 GMT

    Junaid Dawjee: The banter has always been there. It's just now that the press whip it up because it was both caught on mic and they have won a test. Don't worry, the Aussies cop as good as they get, especially in England. It just doesn't get the column inches, and nor should it.

  • on November 28, 2013, 3:09 GMT

    It appears that the Aussies have won the ashes after winning just one Test. Mitchell Johnson forgets that he does have great games every now and then, but that he lacks consistency. He's not that fast to be scary. Lets see less talk/sledging and more action.

  • CrikiLeaks on November 28, 2013, 3:06 GMT

    @stormy16 - Did you even see the incident? Are you relying on poor media commentary? Clarke did not threaten violence, he highlighted a risk Anderson faced and was suggesting he focus on that rather than approaching fielders and threatening to punch them in the face. The only threat of violence came from Anderson.

  • JarrodR on November 28, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    Australia, give your fans something we can be proud of. The old school like Steve Waugh might have been big sledgers, but at least they stood up when they needed too.

    Where was Clarke under pressure against South Africa last time they were here? 5 and 44 when the pace was hot. But 300 against a weak India in a foregone conclusion.

    Where was Johnson... well... most of the time? But has one in 5 tests where he gets a few blokes caught at deep square. If Cummins and Pattinson were fit he wouldn't have even been recalled.

    Show some character, boys.

  • ShutTheGate on November 28, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    @Anton1234 Smith is solid and I think he deserves a solid run as he's obviously improving. He's not world class yet but I think he has the potential to be and also a potential to lead the Australian team in 4 or 5 years.

    Cameron White in the team would be interesting as he's in form. I think they will stick with this lineup more or less until after Perth but if Rogers and Watson do not perform until then then Cameron White and Alex Doolan could come into consideration. If the majority of our top order can show form with the bat then that could present a case for an all rounder like Faulkner to come into the team.

  • ShutTheGate on November 28, 2013, 2:38 GMT

    @Englishfan the only people that expect the Aussies to let up are the fans that think cricket is a "gentleman's" game and are in denial that all international teams sledge and that it's been ingrained within the sport for many years.

    Obviously the English players don't have a problem with it and I'm sure that channel 9 will be more cautious with the stump mic. Time to move on I think.

  • neil99 on November 28, 2013, 2:36 GMT

    Englishfan

    "I don't know why anyone would expect a let-up from the Aussies. Please can someone explain this to me?"

    Nobody is suggesting they stop bowling with venom and hostility, scoring quicky and playing good cricket; just they stop the personal abuse. Even the violent assault on Root earlier this year was shrugged off as a pub type incident.

    It's not big and it's not manly. It's unnaceptable behaviour in any string of life.

  • Biggus on November 28, 2013, 2:32 GMT

    @Junaid Dawjee:-Teams that are losing generally have a lot less to say, a reality not confined to Australian teams.

  • neil99 on November 28, 2013, 2:27 GMT

    Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug

    "I do not want watered down test cricket on the field, I like it tough..."

    So abusing opposition players is deemed to mean playing tough cricket? Maybe you should consult Fair Work Australia on that.

    Real sportsmen let the bat and ball do the talking.

  • wellrounded87 on November 28, 2013, 2:07 GMT

    @Stormy16 It wasn't a threat. He was saying Johnson's bowling was going to break his arm. Seriously it's not that hard to distinguish a threat and a good sledge.

    Now Anderson telling George Bailey that he would "punch his head in". Now that is a threat.

    It's remarkable how silly some of you people look. He shouldn't have been fined Much worse is said on the field but because this happens to have been picked up by the stump mic it's all of a sudden a problem? What message does that send. As long as you don't get caught you can do what you want? Either ban sledging all together or allow it. Don't have rules that are nothing short of a complete joke

  • KPWij on November 28, 2013, 2:04 GMT

    There have been a few articles within the media talking about how Australia have brought back the "mongrel" and showed more "fight" with their brilliant performance last match. This is a little misleading, Australia were 6 for 130 odd but that was the first innings of the entire test, not all was lost at the stage and from that point the Aussies dominated with words and actions. All well and good, but I still feel this inexperienced line up can not fight back from a much more dire situation (Adelaide 06/07 Ashes, Hobart, 99, against Pakistan, a few matches against the SA over the years). The golden era managed to win the games that were essentially lost through intimidation and presence... this is something that the current era has failed at doing repeatedly. They have suffered heavy defeats against England, India and were bowled out for paltry scores against South Africa. When things get real tough, they go into their shells... only time will tell if the Gabba will be the turning.

  • dunger.bob on November 28, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    @ YorkshirePudding: I completely agree with you re Warner. Thankfully CA has taken action. Apparently someone's had a quiet word to him and it's been announced that Warners media commitments for the rest of the series are to be kept to a 'minimum'. .. Good. The man obviously has foot in mouth disease. I can also guarantee you that I'm not the only Aussie who feels that way either.

    There is something I've been wondering about though and I'm interested in anyone's thoughts about it. What do people think about the increasingly popular practice of current players writing books and saying things about other current players and officials? As an example, apparently Jimmy Anderson has released a book and in it he expresses his contempt for Michael Clarke, among others. This is what I've been told, I haven't read it, so I'm only assuming its true. If not, apologies. .. Me, I think that's far worse than what Warner did because he's had time to consider everything before going ahead anyway.

  • Shaggy076 on November 28, 2013, 1:44 GMT

    YorkshirePudding - Have you read what Anderson says about Clarke in his book. How is this any different to what Warner has done? I find Cook and Flower hypocritical on this point.

  • on November 28, 2013, 0:48 GMT

    The Aussies have started talking big again and then sledging will be taken to next level with a lovely name "Mental disintegration". When the Aussies are winning this becomes acceptable to the fans, but when the opposition gives it back they complain about it.Remember the incident when Dhawan responded by mocking Shane Watson's injury ? I didnt understand how Dhawan's act is any different from David Warner's comments on Trott.

  • on November 28, 2013, 0:45 GMT

    The whole thing about sledging is confusing and some are commenting here that it should be in an acceptable limit.But the big question - who defines these limits and How ? some thing which is offensive to one can seem funny to other and vice versa. I think the rule should be simple - Either let both teams have verbal altercations or have a strict saying that players shouldnt say a word to opposition

  • rienzied on November 28, 2013, 0:15 GMT

    One of the cornerstones of England's success in 2010-11 was J. Trot's ability to bat thru the match with Cooke, both hadnt had the best run of form leading into the Ashes. Now with his departure (sadly), Bell really needs to lift his game in Australia. I am happy to see the Aussie attack easily take 20 wickets, as they had been struggling looking back to 2010-11. The time has come now for Harris and Siddle to join in with Mitch to prolong the English batsmen's nightmare for the rest of our summer...

  • AidanFX on November 28, 2013, 0:00 GMT

    hhm 1 test out of 5 and they have won the last three series. Just saying, these public comments to the media could come back to bite later.

  • jb633 on November 27, 2013, 22:49 GMT

    @Fawad Hassan, I agree with you mate. I feel now there are only 2 players that will be able to win us the game with the bat; Cook and KP. KP is the best player on his day and we need him more than ever now. Personally I just can't see how we can come back from the manner of that loss especially after losing one of our best players.

  • on November 27, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    Got no idea why Mitch is wading in on the sledging. way he was bowling does not need to say anything. Do not think England were rattled by the verbals, they were rattled cause the verbals were true.

    And Clarke did not get fined for sledging. he got fined for being caught. that is life and just bad luck. does not matter what anyone else said he was the one that got caught.

  • malomay on November 27, 2013, 22:38 GMT

    You know what, I am sick to death of cricket being played by the media these days. The press feed themselves on creating headlines and the more players they have access to, the greater chance of catching someone out by saying something thoughtless/silly. As far as I'm concerned, cricket should return to the days of the Captain of the test side being the sole spokesman for the side. This was the bread & butter of skippers of old, they had the experience & training.....nowdays a bloke playing his first game gets to front the sharks in the media & is allowed to say whatever he likes to try to create controversy. I've had a gutfull of it. Just once I'd like to see a player say nothing & give the press nothing to write about.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 27, 2013, 22:32 GMT

    Johnson is hilarious. Even he must surely be aware of the fact that he's been smashed around by England for so long that eventually he was going to pick up a couple of wickets one day. As soon as he does, he's the one who can't stop opening his mouth, which is always a telling sign.

  • NZCricketfan1 on November 27, 2013, 22:12 GMT

    I know there are plenty of people who like the verbals and think its part of the game. But to me sledging is pathetic and a blight on the game. It's immature lacking in honour and a sign of both arrogance and weakness.

    Actions are mightier than words. Andy Roberts used to just stare down the wicket after one of his thunderbolts. That was more than enough and said it all. This culture now days of sledging is encouraged and for me is not what the game of cricket is about. People sledged me when I played I just ignored them. After a while they did not bother. In the end the sledger just looks like a muppet especially if your actions defeat his words.

    Just my view I am sure some will sledge me for it :-}

  • disco_bob on November 27, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    @ Junaid Dawjee on (November 27, 2013, 18:24 GMT), where was the banter last time? Surely you jest, from one James Anderson of course.

  • Marcio on November 27, 2013, 22:00 GMT

    "It was pretty quiet the whole match until sort of closer to the end..." said Johnson. Broad said something similar. How then does this gel with the numerous comments about some sledging assault by Australia, which seems to be the delusion that permeates these pages? If you want to make these claims, back it up with some direct evidence or quotes! But you don't have any because such evidence doesn't exist. Most of you clearly didn't watch the game. I watched heaps of it, and till five minutes from the end did not see or hear one thing which deserves any comment at all, from either side.

  • on November 27, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    Always been of the opinion that sledging has absolutely no place in the game. Sadly I appear to be in the minority.

  • __PK on November 27, 2013, 21:28 GMT

    Junaid Dawjee, pay attention and read the whole article. Nothing's changed in the past 10 or 100 tests. When a guy like Anderson chirps, the Australians respond. The only difference is that now the Australians are winning again, the green-eyed monsters in the rest of the world decide they need something to hit them with. And let's not forget - the English started this sledging battle.

  • Shaggy076 on November 27, 2013, 21:23 GMT

    FreddyForPrimeMinister - "Sadly the comments now made by Johnson, Siddle and Lehman are equally sickening; worse perhaps as they are made in the cold light of day not the heat of battle." - Seriously what have these guys said Johnson said he will continue to bowl fast and short isn't that legitimate cricket. He also said there wasn't much sledging going on until the end of the game or did you not read that. He has never said he is going to personally attack the Englishman with sledging. 2) Lehmann just told FLower to get his house in order and he would look after his. He talks about aggressive cricket in the aggressive bowling and if someone like ANderson wants to sledge well he will get it back.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 27, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    Why do International cricketers not complain about sledging ? is it they understand it is and has been part of the game forever, and why do a lot of people complain about sledging on cricinfo could it be that they are not international cricketers.

  • Shaggy076 on November 27, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    jb633 - SO what should Johnson do be meek and get hounded by keyboard bullies such as yourself. The two disappointing Ashes series are in the past and this is the now. It seems as an international cricketer you have to come out snarling and aggressive or keyboard heroes such as yourself have a go at them, also seems if you come out aggressive and clean up the Poms - keyboard heroes such as yourself will have a go. In the light of what has occurred with Trott I would have thought the English fans may have some common sense, truth is Johnson has been ridiculed by the English players, press and supporters alike and to come out like this is an inspiration and show you can overcome adversity.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 27, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    I find it amusing that the high and mighty get on here and complain about sledging by sledging.

  • drdickdixon on November 27, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    They're having verbals with each other. It's the Ashes. It happens every time. If a comment hadn't been caught on stump cam then nothing would have been said. This is a non-story that Aus are using to their advantage however to ratchet up the tension so they're boxing clever (also though hopefully not literally - take note, Warner).

  • hhillbumper on November 27, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    To be fair England were shocked by the first test.But we all were. Mitchell Johnson was accurate. Also is it not ironic that MJ knows better than most about mental torment and England now know the gloves are off.Pick Finn and aim for the throat.No backward steps and attack them because the Aussies aint that good and England aint that bad.

  • pussatina on November 27, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    I went to my first Test Match in 1984, but I am beginning to find all the over the top verbals,sledging, press conferences, over hyped articles at the moment from both sides really tiresome. Do your talking with your batting or bowling. Say what you like at the end of the series when we know who is best. I just find it unutterably tedious & childish at the moment.

  • ashes61 on November 27, 2013, 19:35 GMT

    Further to my last post (if published) we had Brearley, who played in several Aus-Eng series up until as recently as the '80s (versus Lillee, Marsh & all that lot) saying only last week that HE WAS NEVER "SLEDGED." I've been watching, listening to, observing & reading about the Ashes ever since the May-Benaud series. The Ashes has ALWAYS been tough cricket. Do you think Johnson somehow plays it "tougher" than Davidson? Or Anderson tougher than Trueman? Or Clarke tougher than Benaud? Or Cook tougher than Dexter? What a laugh! But did you see Benaud, Simpson (both tough as nails) screaming & swearing at Cowdrey or Barrington like 3 year olds, as we did this week? If Johnson, Broad, Anderson or Clarke were playing beach cricket with their little kids, they'd soon deter them from selfish or bad tempered behaviour, because they'd want them to learn how to behave properly. So why do they now behave like 3 yr olds themselves? The laws are VERY clear but NOT upheld by the umpires. Sick of it!

  • CodandChips on November 27, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    I don't know why anyone would expect a let-up from the Aussies. Please can someone explain this to me? Trott has his issues but surely they're not related, and also if they were Trott has gone home. Time for the next test, where either Bell moves to 3 and Balance/Stokes at 6, or Moeen comes in at 3.

  • on November 27, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    kevin pietersen now has to take charge.on his day he will be enough for the aussies

  • on November 27, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    The first time the aussies get their tails up and they back up to their old tricks. Where was this banter when they were getting belted in the last 10 tests. Gotta love the dingo!

  • anton1234 on November 27, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Looking at Adelaide matches this year, out of the three played two were very high scoring while the most recent not excessively. I have suggested Faulkner should play ahead of Bailey but I might be tempted to go with Cameron White instead. I am not convinced with Smith in the middle order yet and White could be finally coming good. He could also bowl some decent spinners. Is Smith a better batsman than Klinger?

  • gmoturu1 on November 27, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    I think 4 players from England need to step up. Pietersen, Bell, Anderson & Swann and the rest of the team will follow based on their performances.

  • on November 27, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    It's an uphill task from here for England. Compounded further by the loss of Trott. England need to display better technique not just while handling Jhonson but even Llyon it seems. God Help!!!

  • YorkshirePudding on November 27, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    @couchpundit, I have no problem with Sledging on the field, I do think it crosses a line at times and players need to be reminded, if it continues to go too far then they need to be sanctioned during the game by the umpires.

    However, Its when sledging starts to creep out in press conferences, that its a problem. There was no justification for Warner to make the comments he did to the media off the field of play, and thats the critical point.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on November 27, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    I think a really salient point here is that no players have said anything untoward has happened on the field. Broad said he thought it was all business as usual. He also said that they pride themselves in not commenting on opposition off the field and I think Warner especially should take heed, it's a good policy. I am an Aussie but I don't think that behaviour is necessary. It's acceptable but it looks ugly. I do not want watered down test cricket on the field, I like it tough and as abroad said they prepare themselves for it.

  • couchpundit on November 27, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding - in 2010/2011 no england player made derogatory comment during press conference YES.....but don't for a minute buy into the notion that Australian player's were not subject to verbal abuse(not a friendly banter/sledge)..given so much was going around that time with australian setup.

    Whatever works for you.

  • jmcilhinney on November 27, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    @ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (November 27, 2013, 11:03 GMT), that's a bit of a simplistic point of view. As some have said, if Trott had made runs and England had won then he almost certainly wouldn't have gone home; at least not yet. He's obviously out of form and struggling with a technical issue but could almost certainly overcome that if he had the mental capacity, which his current emotional issues are preventing. If he's not in a mental state to get himself out of his current slump then it's better for him and the team both that he withdraw and someone who has a better chance of contributing right now step in and that's exactly what's happened.

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on November 27, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    "England rattled by sledging". Nonsense. Rattled by pace, rattled by bounce, rattled by Lyon's form, rattled by Warner and Clarke's batting, rattled by the media, rattled by banners in the sky, rattled by their own form, rattled by just about everything else, but definitely showing great resilience over all.

  • Chris_P on November 27, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding. A great post by you! I agree that too many who post here have little to no idea about what it is like in the middle. Some suggest sledging is abuse. It is not. I have been playing for over 30 years & actively involved in sledging & can proudly say I have never abused one player & probably only ever been abused twice in my career. I have been sledged so many times, (as slow scoring opening batsmen should be too!) that I have lost count, but I love giving it back & actively seek banter as it helps me concentrate. You can tell pretty easily who has played competitive cricket here & who hasn't.

  • WillDuff on November 27, 2013, 13:01 GMT

    England can dish it out as much as they can take it. But now the pressure is ALL on Johnson. He had one good match and now the expectation and weight of an entire nation is resting on his suspect shoulders. Can he cope?

  • YorkshirePudding on November 27, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    @SurlyCynic, I really think that 90% of fans dont understand the pressure cooker both of these teams are in, back to back ashes is a first as far as im aware so there is no let up in terms of being able to get away from the Media who are known to exagerate stories, especially in an ashes series to try and get a rise out of the fans.

    No one can blame Johnson for seeking help especailly after the way he was treat in 2010/11 by the crowds, also not one england player in that series made derogatroy remarks about the opposition players, even after they'd won 3 tests by an innings.

    I have to say I have no problem with sledging providing its kept as banter, and doesnt get personal.

  • 2.14istherunrate on November 27, 2013, 12:24 GMT

    There is not going to be any let up in the verbals;England do not expect it. But there is a point at which sledging becomes distracting to the point of taking over. Therefore there is a point at which the gamesmanship becomes contrary to the spirit of the game. Beyomnd a certain limit players should be allowed to just get on with playing. I cannot think really that the top batsmen give it to much attention though. They have heard it all on the way up. It should be water off a duck's back. I think it's more a case on how it translates into action versus the tail. Arm/Skull breaking, while it evokes strong reactions, should be seen as subadolescent prattle. To be honest someone needs to compile a book of the best and worst sledges just for our amusement or to cringe at.

  • JG2704 on November 27, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    Personally I think England are rattled by being dominated full stop. We've seen thrashings against them in the 1st test of a series and they've come back strong and we've seen thrashings against them in the 1st test of a series and it's set the tone for the series. They will take heart that the last time they toured Australia. Aus won the 3rd test by a massive margin to square the series and had the momentum but Eng reasserted their authority in the final 2 tests. As for sledging , it's part of the game. Certain players from all sides do it when they're on top. Johnson's an interesting case (if what some on here say that he can't handle it when recd) but then if he's one of the first to sledge it's only natural that he'll be one of the 1st to receive it when things are going against him.

  • vasanth1989 on November 27, 2013, 11:55 GMT

    As an Indian fan I supported Aus, since England beat us home and away. But the way they behaved after winning just thinking that I will support Eng for the 2nd test. Some onfiled banter is okay but there is a line. And also this Eng team is not the pushovers of 90s, they will comeback really hard. Proof is their comeback in India where even the mighty Australians of yesteryears found it difficult to win.

  • on November 27, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    No one had much to say when Mitchell Johnson was the butt end of all the jokes and insults all this time. He came back stronger and shut them up, now that's a real character. Englishmen just can't accept the fact that they aren't the favourites to win this series.

  • mahjut on November 27, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    as a neutral I don't feel anything really untoward has occurred. I don't think I've seen such a frenzy in the verbals for years but England should be able to handle it - take it for the compliment it is and I still can't see them surrendering the Ashes - I genuinely think the two teams have a significant enough gap between them in the batting and where Aus MAY edge the bowling, it isn't significantly.

    Trott, like Johnson, I feel for and I've never liked Warner (full stop) but my irrelevant and illogical dislike of him (much like my feelings about KP - if you don't like, you don't like) doesn't mean I blame him for something he clearly played an ALMOST unmentionable side-role in.

    the next game will be very interesting ... get Clarke early and, like the saffers will attest, the rest are highly likely to roll over. England's batting is simply stronger and one tough test is also, highly unlikely to change that.

    sort of looking forward to it but wish SA or Zim were being tested atm

  • alarky on November 27, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    It's quite natural that the animation shown by the players of both teams on the field of play is always a source of excitement for the spectators - people like to see action, especially when it's competitive and healthy! However, each actor knows HIS ZONE and should keep within bounds! I don't see any reason for Mr Crowe to try to upset a good test cricket atmosphere - that's the way we knew it in the past, when TEST CRICKET was the No.1 sporting disciple in the world. The IPL and BBL and CPL,etc are establishing too much on-field coziness among players, which is extracting too much from the competitive nature of the game! In those CRICKET EXHIBITIONS, the main goal is money! What we saw in the first Ashes test was REAL CRICKET, with Mitchell Johnson the STAR BOY in the movie! Authorities, once there's NO FIGHT, please do not disrupt the ENTERTAINMENT! We were similarly entertained by both teams NOT LONG AGO in ENGLAND! And please DON' MUZZLE MR WARNER - HE'S REAL FUN! WE WANT WARNER!

  • A.Ak on November 27, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    England didn't do any less when Aussies were there....move on.

  • JOLLYGUD on November 27, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    put a mike on every individual tshirt :D ,, until and unless they get fined continuously,,,,sledging can't be controlled

  • SurlyCynic on November 27, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    @jb633: Interesting that you say Johnson 'couldn't handle the chants' and was 'not mentally tough'. English fans seem to mock Johnson for ending up in counseling but when an England batsman has problems my guess is they would not appreciate similar comments?

    Anderson and Broad dish it out more than anyone and were happy to make personal comments when Clarke and Johnson were going through tough times in their lives. But now England don't want any verbals after they were humiliated?

  • heathrf1974 on November 27, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    I just think there is a fine line between sledging and abuse. The umpires will need to be wary during Adelaide.

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on November 27, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    trotts inabilty in playing bouncers could force him to take this decision

  • milepost on November 27, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    @jb633, you're having a go at Johnson's toughness? What would you suggest he do? Go home? I'm not really sure what you are on about, it's a tough life as an international sportsman and there's no shame in having moments where you aren't up to it. Many international sportspeople meltdown, some in the most high profile places. So why would you give stick to them? As far as sledging goes they all do it. Do you want to watch cricket without the classic chit chat between fast bowler and batsman? We love it, go watch lawn bowls if you can't handle it.

  • krish_buddy_truesaying on November 27, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    when you are playing some tough cricket verbal fight are quiet common... dont blame aussies...,, they are playing their natural game.. aus are always blamed for sledging.., dont other team sledge....,,, every bowler in cricket use some abusive words after taking wickets even bhuvaneshwar kumar uses it...,,its part of a game dont make it sensational....clarke did wat the captain should do...,, i really enjoyed a last part of the game when clarke waved his hands to the crowd and this can be seen only in ashes...

  • premclement on November 27, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    I have more respect for West Indies team of 70s and 80s where they won matches due to cricketing skills rather than sledging skills unlike these Australian teams of 90s and now.

  • jb633 on November 27, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    Big brave Mitchell Johnson is back. The fact he has lost them two ashes series and couldn't handle the barmy army chants is all forgotten as he beat up a batting line up that has been failing for 2 years. Well done Mitch you are an inspiration to young sportsmen everywhere. So mentally tough.

  • Marcio on November 27, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    @Stormy16, "Incidentally there has been no discussion of Aus sledging for a while now and its no accident that Aus haven't won in a while."

    How about the truth? It is irrational to think that what has changed is that Australia have started sledging and that is why they won! On the basis of what? One five-second incident at the end of a 400 run win? You think Australia won this game because of sledging, and lost in India and England because there was no sledging?

    It would be nice if people actually thought before they posted.

    So here's the truth, and the only conclusion that holds up to logical scrutiny. Allow me to paraphrase for you:

    "Incidentally it is no accident that there has been no discussion of Aus sledging for a while now that Aus haven't won in a while."

  • dunger.bob on November 27, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    Someone suggested zero tolerance for sledging, football style. Football lasts 90 minutes and you're running around like a maniac most of that time. If you've got the time or the breath to slip in a decent sledge then you must be a pretty fit player. Anyway, back to the idea. I think it's great. Bring it on I reckon.

    The general feeling that I've been able to pick up is that if such a rule was introduced, Australia would be down to 2 men before the first drinks break. That might be the case but I've got a feeling that as long as it was policed impartially the results might be surprising. .. I think what happens is that other teams know we have a rep. for sledging and they use that knowledge tactically in a variety of ways. Not the least of those ways being trying to whip up public opinion against us.

  • stormy16 on November 27, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Apparently Clark was defending Baily according to Aus, and Clark did the right thing by threatening to physical harm to Jimmy! So your 350+ behind, 9 wickets down, your last batter comes in and has ago at the short leg fielder!! that makes as much sense as this whole episode being termed as sledging and is part of the game. This is just plain ugly and unacceptable and not part of the game - if it was Clark would not be fined!

    The great Aus side of the past showed the similar traits of ugliness and called it 'part of the game' and it's a shame that after a great Aus win, we need to once again have this discussion about sledging. Incidentally there has been no discussion of Aus sledging for a while now and its no accident that Aus haven't won in a while.

    If this is part of the game and the Australian way why weren't they carrying on in the same manner a few months ago in Eng?

  • YorkshirePudding on November 27, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    @Nutcutlet, I think you have a point, thought maybe use a rugby union Sin bin approach, for the fielding side that 30 minutes off the field after ignoring a warning from the umpire. If they persist they get banned for the next Test.

    If its a batsman then they are prevented from taking the field for 30 minutes at the change of innings, or have to 'retire' for a minimum of 30 mins or on the fall of the 9th wicket.

    However, there needs to be a distinction between banter (humerous sayings) and the more extreme forms of Sledging, like threatening physical harm, racial abuse etc.

  • FRpunk on November 27, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    As an indian i loved it . This is what makes Test cricket so special . it should be hard , tough cricket . thats why i love cricket , the bowlers destroying the batsmen in australia , while batsmen scoring heavily in india .

    i m hoping for more chin music from australia , good luck .

  • Shaggy076 on November 27, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    Sean Van Der Merwe ; Shall we hold up silent signs so the crowd know when to be silent as well. Its a long day in the field if your not allowed to chat. It just doesnt need to personal, but silence is ridiculouus. Fielders need to talk to each other and rev up the bowler, otherwise you would go insane staying out there for 6 hours.

  • zoot364 on November 27, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    Seems to me that all our comments are based on ignorance of what's actually said out in the middle. So why not turn up the stump mic so the public can judge properly? Cricketers make a lot of money these days based on a carefully constructed public image, so seems only right to me that we should have more information on how they really behave.

  • Bala74 on November 27, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    People who give Windies of the 70s and 80s as examples of letting their game do the talking seem to forget that they played in an era where batsmen either didn't wear protective gear or the gear wasn't very good. Also, there was no restriction on the number of bouncers a bowlers can bowl. Under these conditions, it is easy to let fast bowling do the 'talking'. In the modern game the batsmen are well protected both by gear and laws of the game. There is nothing wrong in the bowlers trying to psychologically wilt the batsman. Lets be clear neither would Anderson actually punch Bailey's face nor would Clarke actually break his arm. So, its just empty threats but have a psychological impact on the opponent - i.e. Do not expect me to smile at you, I'm not your mate (at least for the time being). I see nothing wrong with that.

  • on November 27, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @ PutMarshyOn - Agreed mate. Many people would be shocked to hear what youngsters are saying to each other these days on the playing fields. And they learn it straight from the TV. The only thing I would say is that you can ask Clarke, Anderson and co the question but sadly, I'm not sure you'd get the answer you are expecting.

  • FreddyForPrimeMinister on November 27, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    @Nutclet (November 27, 9:26 GMT) - couldn't agree more, mate. Cricket is a GAME and has been held in high esteem for over a century for its widely held view of sportsmanship. I've no problem with "banter" as Michael Clarke described it (and calling Root a "pretty boy" is just that) but what Clarke did and said crossed the line by a considerable margin. The fact the stump mic picked up the comment doesn't make it any worse: it should never have happened in the first place - kids can see the finger wagging, which is bad enough. As was said previously, can we expect Federer and Nadal to behave like this in future - or golfers and snooker players? Sadly the comments now made by Johnson, Siddle and Lehman are equally sickening; worse perhaps as they are made in the cold light of day not the heat of battle. And for clarification, I'm a big Jimmy A fan but wish he'd cut down on the histrionics - though it should be clear that no-one knows what he's said, we just see he is saying something!

  • inefekt on November 27, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    Why do so many fans think that Australia is the only team in the world that sledges? All the major teams are guilty of it, all players from all countries get emotional and perhaps overreact. Anderson gives a verbal send off to opposing batsmen all the time. Kholi isn't shy of giving them either. So don't be so naive, don't accuse Australia of indecency and lacking class because they're simply behaving in exactly the same way as other teams. It's grossly unfair to plant these labels on the Aussie players.

  • dunger.bob on November 27, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    I must be in the bad books. Can't seem to get anything published.

    Anyway, what I've been trying to say is that it seems to me the Aussies have had enough and don't really care what other people think at the moment. In their current mood anyone who wants to start anything against our boys had better buckle up.

  • Wharfeseamer on November 27, 2013, 9:42 GMT

    What this series needs, out on the field, in the media and on both 'sides' of this debate....... is just a few more grown-ups

  • PutMarshyOn on November 27, 2013, 9:38 GMT

    Did Bradman or Viv carry on like this? Were they less competitive? The problem is that the kids hear their heroes mouthing of and run out on the field Saturday morning eager to try out a few 'manly' insults. And so it goes. Maybe here's the question to ask Clarke, Anderson & Co - will you be encouraging your children to behave like this?

  • Shaggy076 on November 27, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    Francis Mel; I suspect there is a lot of animosity between Clarke and Anderson especially after Anderson just realesed a book which included him having a go at Clarke. The sledge to Bailey was the last straw. As cook and Flower have stated that off-field sledging lacks class and if they are men of there words they must have addressed Andersoon behaviour with him.

  • on November 27, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    Sledging is against the spirit of the game and against the laws. No opposition player shall distract a batsmen when he is preparing to receive a delivery. Batsmen use the time when the ball is going around to gather their thoughts, gather their concentration. Surely this is part of preparing to receive a delivery. MCC and ICC should stamp out this barbaric behavior immediately. Batting and bowling standards would improve. Batting relies fully on concentration. one mistake and its over.

  • Nutcutlet on November 27, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    In terms of behaviour, cricketers are often compared favourably to footballers. This thought sent me to the FA website to check the footie equivalent of 'sledging'. *Using offensive, insulting or abusive language or gestures* is a straight red card offence. It was never thought necessary to introduce such an immediate sanction in cricket, but surely it is high time the umpires started to take a strong line when players go way across the line. Where 'the line' is may cause some debate, but pointing at a player's face at short distance, with threats of physical injury, accompanied by foul language, ticks all the boxes. Now, no one is expecting the manners of the drawing room from pro cricketers involved in high-tension Ashes' Tests, but Clarke brought the game into disrepute in my book, but the captain got away with it ( a 20% fine of match fee is risible). Before the series spirals out of control, some v clear rules need to be articulated & understood. Once again, the ICC's so weak.

  • TheBigBoodha on November 27, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    I doubt many even read the article. Too busy being outraged by the media hype. As Johnson clearly says, there wasn't that much said till right at the end of the game. Even that was no big deal, IMHO.

    I didn't see Clarke, Bailey or Anderson complaining about anything. It's just some people getting worked up about nothing. But outrage seems to be the preferred mode of living for many people these days.

    Go ahead, knock yourself out, as they say. I think its about five or six days till the next test starts. All this babbling in between is just hot air.

  • TheOriginalCricketFan23 on November 27, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    Comon Guys!!!....This sledging business is real fun. It shows how desparate the teams are to win. And sledging is never a one sided game, it happens from both the teams. England making a fuss about it is unfair and the not the comment that Clarke made on Anderson. At the same time best wishes to Trott, amy he recover soon. Cheers!!

  • C.Gull on November 27, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    So many overreactions here, and so many unrealistically romantic views on what is, let's remember, a professional competitive sport. As usual, it's supporters of the team that just lost who are lodging most of the complaints. This is just like the vague accusations of arrogance or 'being a bad winner' back when Australia was the dominant team in the world. No one likes to see their team lose, so they grasp for moral victories when they can't get a win on the scoreboard. Human behaviour.

  • on November 27, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    can we expect two chess players sledging one another for grabbing the world champions title?Or a Fedrer and Nadal hurling abuses to unsettle one another at a grand slam match.Guess which games are gentlemen's game and which are not!

  • Bishop on November 27, 2013, 9:06 GMT

    Why is it that on a sports field it seems acceptable to behave in a way that would be completely unacceptable off the field? Why is it that footballers who throw a punch are not charged with assault? Why is verbal abuse rebranded as some sort of sporting strategy? How is it that widely held societal values are suspended on a sports field?

    Wasn't it always the other way round? That sport represented the values that society aspired to? Athletes coming together to compete in a spirit of friendship and fair play. And their endeavours highlighted for us the noble qualities of humanity...qualities of courage, determination, pride, respect. They were graceful in defeat, and magnanimous in victory. And the point of it all, the drama of it all was in the contest, not the result. Sport used to bring out the best in us, not the worst.

    What a sorry state we have reached.

    I hope M Clarke and his team can win back the ashes, but for goodness sake, try to do it with decency and class.

  • club_player on November 27, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Why is it OK to abuse somebody so long as the public don't know about it? Either Clarke has has suffered an injustice if 'anything goes' or abuse should be dealt with by the authorities.

  • PanGlupek on November 27, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    @Clyde; Yes the batsman can (and in club cricket, do) step away if a fielder sledges him. While the bowler is running in, fielders MUST be silent (and can be penalised for repeatedly not doing so). Until the bowler starts his run-up, you can more or less say what you want, as long as it's not personal/racist/anti-religious, etc.

    Players shouldn't do it when a batsman is out either - that's just cowardly :-)

  • on November 27, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    What is attractive about a bunch of boys swearing at and insulting each other? Cricket, the gentleman's game? NOT!! Yes, passion runs high but where is your self-control? Where is your character? It's just a game - it doesn't matter how much money you throw at cricket - at the end of the day it's just a game. It seems that people are unable to have pride in playing for their country these days without belittling, abusing, insulting. The joy doesn't appear to be in the winning anymore but rather in seeing how much one can humiliate the opposition. Sadly, as long as those watching cricket continue to call for and support this behavior nothing will change. I say shame on everyone who desires and keeps calling for more foul language and insults etc. It does not add to the game, it shows a complete lack of substance to ones character. What a society we have become that we actually enjoy and encourage this kind of behavior.

  • on November 27, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    Why can't a grown man like George Bailey, an ODI Captain at that needs his Captain to stand for him? come on Australia. This is lame.

  • on November 27, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    Sledging can be difficult fir batsmen to deal with. The opposition are trying to disturb the batsmens concentration. If however, you are the type of person who can tell them "where to go" quite forcibly without affecting your concentration then that would be my preferred option. The best would be to let your bat do the talking. Either way you must not give the opposition the feeling they have got through to you. The toothless ICC can issue as many dictates as they like, they will never stop sledging. Easy to do out of the umpires and stump mikes hearing.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge.. on November 27, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    I'm starting to think some of you don't have the nerve to even watch. Cricket is a tough game played by tough guys and you get found out at this level if you aren't cut out for it, much like we were at the Gabba. Johnson is right to saw they will keep it up, we folded like wet napkins so hope we play a little less golf in between tests and work on toughening up.

  • CaptainInsano on November 27, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    Australia always take sledging a bit too far (they also virtually invented it) - CMJ famously said that 'Waugh would be his choice to captain a team from Earth if it was playing for the planets survival, though he sadly left the game a far less noble one that which he found'.

    The Captain of Australian cricket team is the second biggest job in the country. It is extremely unimpressive to have a huge role model for sportsmanship behave as such - that cannot be overridden by 'he stuck up for this mates' and other such comments clearly made by people of similarly small brain power.

  • Whispering_Holding on November 27, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    Boo Hoo England. You like to dish it out (Broad, Anderson especially) but you don't like to cop it. Man up and play hard!

  • trumpoz on November 27, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    @Clyde - the batsman is perfectly entitled to pull away if the is talking of any sort during the bowlers run up. It is classed as unfair play to try and put the batsman off during the bowlers run up - that is why it doesn't happen very much. When it does captains become involved and are warned for it to stop.

    As for your other suggestion I don't think it will be noticed - this is a game where grown men put it all on the line. Verbals happen and that stays on the field. All senior cricket is like that. Play hard on the field. Have aberrant and a laugh about it after the game. Been like that for years.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on November 27, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    @congrats on a speedy and complete recovery Mitch, nice come back with style.

  • on November 27, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    sledging had happend in the past and it will happen. as a batsman you need to learn to ignore what the fielders are saying. move away, do not respond to them and let your bat do the talking. people only attacks you only if you have done the same with them or you are vulnerable to it. i guarantee they will stop doing it when you stop crying and you also do not do it. but you can not expect no sledging from the other side when you have been equally guilty of doing this.

  • jaiganeshp on November 27, 2013, 8:08 GMT

    wish a trott a speedy and complete recovery and come back in style.. cheerss!!!!!!!!!!

  • jaiganeshp on November 27, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Both Aussies and England , both players and fans should focus on cricket and not on controversies which happens on field due to heat.

  • Clyde on November 27, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    A technical question, if someone can provide the answer. The batsman can step back from play, as he is facing up, if he is distracted by a bee, or gets a fly in his eye. Can he do the same if he is distracted by sledging? If so, is it for the umpire to decide whether the distraction is genuine? In tennis, the umpire asks for quiet to allow a player to serve. In cricket, sledging is a waste of time and energy, and this means the public is asked to watch inferior play. It is disrespectful to not only other players and the umpire but the spectators. It is always opined that sledging is neither here nor there and 'get with the game'. If that is reasonable, then I think a waste of everyone time has occurred and Cricket Australia (etc.) needs to reduce the price of tickets by 50 per cent for one month after any Test in which sledging arises. Why should we be asked to watch behaviour that we take pride in not carrying on with ourselves?

  • Reverend-Cavalier on November 27, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    A friend and i were discussing the whole issue of "the sledge" and he made the point that as a parent, he found it horrible for the Australian captain to say these things on the cricket field. I have thought about this alot and as a parent would say this to my sons. There are two issues: what Clarke was doing and he he did it. The values in sticking up for your team and your team mates are honourable. The swearing and the way he carried that out: unfortunate and not appropriate. He could have said something like: "Why don't you leave the others alone and try to take my wicket when I bat. And Mitch is bowling really quick at the moment, watch your arm:

  • on November 27, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    Australia have indeed done a lot better than England in the first test.but I do not think their team is better than England in test format. england will come back in the next game

  • SeanB on November 27, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    "Posted by England-Have-No-Johnson on (November 27, 2013, 7:31 GMT)"

    Boxers should be arrested if they verbally threaten the opponent during the 'game'. I have never heard of such statements made by boxers during the match. What Clarke did was cheap, the same goes for other 21 players.

  • ShutTheGate on November 27, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    @ Sir Francis "It's not neccessary and only bad human beings indulge in it. Doesn't matter how good a cricketer you are if you are a bad person. Did Sachin ever do it? Of course not"

    This is completely wrong if you google "cricket sledges" you'll find a sight that documents some of the famous sledges with quotes from the west indies teams which you mention and also Tendulkar. There are plenty that are worse than what was broadcast last weekend.

    I don't know where you got your high almighty attitude from. Did you knight your self?

  • millsy24 on November 27, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    The fact of the matter is that Anderson has done this for years and has a reputation for it, but he doesn't like it when someone stands up to him obviously. The fact that he left his crease to get in Bailey's face tells you something and then he cries to the umpire. There are players from all the international teams that would say exactly the same thing if they could publicly. Good on Clarke for standing up for his team. By the tone of some of these comments, it is obviously only Australia who sledge. Really? Sorry, but that is in no way true at all. England have only lost 1 game, not the series, but the way they are carrying on is ridiculous. Doesn't anyone remember a few years back when Johnson was absolutely crucified by the English crowds, fans and some of their players while he was having family problems. Oh, that's right, when the English do it it's friendly banter, but when the Aussie's do it it becomes sledging.

  • on November 27, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Pathetic. Aggression in cricket has to be accompanied with misbehaviour? I have never understood the need for "sledging" - its just being a bully - it is an illness and it also reflects pathetically on the kind of persons these guys are or at least projecting. In addition, all this distracts you from the game and what it needs, stands for. Else show cricket after 10pm when you dont need to watch it with your family.

  • on November 27, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    @Posted by Al Minidodo Warming on (November 27, 2013, 7:15 GMT) a lot worse is said on a cricket pitch, how do people not realise this, they're not sitting in a courtroom for gods sake, Clarke just told Anderson to get ready for a broken arm, he never said "I'm going to break your arm" I can't believe how serious people are taking this & that to Anderson whom is one of the biggest sledgers in the England team

  • ddmumbaiindian on November 27, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    @ Sir_francis, bang on target mate! If you can do talking with your bat and ball, your mouth is not required at all. This clearly shows desparation not only in cricket team but in media, public and ex players as well. After three consecutive Ashes defeats Oz are purely desparate. So one win have fired the monsters up in their attitude. They might win this series the ugly way unless Cook and co can fight their oral cricket with actual cricket. Ashes are always clash of two bad boys fighting, so while England too are not very gentlemenly in their attitude, must say Oz are doing it too ugly way. That is the reason they might have dominated cricket world under Ponting and Steve W, they were never respected like Windies of early 80s.

  • on November 27, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    what a world ! sportsmen saying they wont stop abusing eachother on the pitch...disgraceful !

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on November 27, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    Well, it is imp. Aus' young team doesn't get distracted by these tactics of Eng. Fact that they are the far superior side to Eng is proven in game 1 . Eng realize this and is looking for ways to change that .The Aus bats should ignore whatever Anderson has to say verbally and show focus that say ,a Warner showed and will translate to the much required big 100s that will help team put up a big score for the bowlers to go at full pelt at Eng like Gabba. To be fair Anderson's sledges will 'worry' Aus bats just as much as his 80mph m/pace will - not a bit!

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Looks-Silly-Now on November 27, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    "Posted by Al Minidodo Warming on (November 27, 2013, 7:15 GMT)

    In most of the civilized world a threat of physical harm is a criminal act. "

    I guess we should start arresting boxers after their match, right?

  • 777aditya on November 27, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    "Only one side was playing cricket!" Anil Kumble uttered these famous words in his limited stint as a test captain towards the fag end of his career. The sledging inflicted on the touring Indian team then was far worse than it is now. False accusations flew thick and fast. Clarke is much tamer than the wilder Ponting and this is, may I dare say, a much well behaved and more likeable Australian team. They are winning after a long time and naturally letting off steam in the best way they know. Of course, Team India went onto beat Australia in Australia after a long time in the very next test played! So, instead of reacting, England can silent the chirps by their performance. This Ashes series has all the right ingredients to make it a memorable one - good luck to both teams.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on November 27, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    The Jonson the world's batsmen feared has returned . And how! Carry on Mitch and looking forward to more 150+ bolts, game tilting spells ,sniffleather bumpers and off course the 5/10 wkt bags for the coming Ashes games that helps Aus clinch the 'urn' . Not to mention a few lusty blows with bat if a chance occurs . That may help him a few more MoM or at least a leadind MoS contender to give stiff comp. to Clarke and Warner. Go get em Mitch ! Let the fun continue.

  • SeanB on November 27, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    To paraphrase S. Waugh, Aus are not No 1 in the world, and they have just won 1 (after losing 7 and drawing 2) test. Should they be talking so much? Warner himself was banned not long ago and he thinks he is indispensable. Immature. Some bad luck - if Clarke wakes up with a bad back or Harris wants to take a break - and England are right back in the series.

  • xtrafalgarx on November 27, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    I agree with @Mick Spry and @Rahul_78. When Johnson was going through similar phases a few years ago the poms were laughing! Now that the shoe is on the other foot, we are made to look evil?

  • Alexk400 on November 27, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    I really think ICC needs to shut thus sledging down. I really think fun sledging is ok not abuse style sledging. I think aussies misusing everything. Its really pity that they have to go so low instead of playing cricket. When they were good , when they sledged , it did not matter because , it gona happen irespective of sledge or not . It was fun sledging. Now just like DRS , aussie team is misusing sledging as a tool. Its more of keeping things entertained not as psychological abuse tool. I think its not cricket for me. Its same as bullying and ragging in school. You abuse until they break. I really would say its like kinda mental torture. As long as it do not get personal its ok. But i think does these umpires go against Aussie players on sledging ? Umpires always afraid of aussie media when they umpiring in australia. Same thing in india umpires do not like to give sachin out as he always gets most benefit of the doubt. Sledging is not cricket for me.

  • Stumay on November 27, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    One test win in 10 and suddenly they're all giving it out. It will make England's comeback and Johnson's ultimate failure all the more enjoyable.

  • on November 27, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    In most of the civilized world a threat of physical harm is a criminal act.

    I guess the cricket pitch is not part of that.

  • Cantbowlcantbat on November 27, 2013, 7:13 GMT

    The sledging itself is irrelevant. I cannot believe that a comment about breaking JAs arm had any value or "fear factor" at all. The Oz players are saying they're gonna keep sledging because it's a way of telling England that they believe they've got inside their heads. As others have said, Oz won because they were the better side in Brisbane. The continued banter re sledging is just about displaying their current feeling of superiority over England.

  • Rocky_Team on November 27, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    I wonder, how could number 3 batsman Trott, survived all these years without opponents exploiting a glaring error in his technique. He comes forward & to the off stump (even further to off stump) and plays ball pitched outside off with straight bat or to the on side. This technique works to negate the off side swing & cover the line. But, it is surely a problem when a short ball on the off stump is played with front foot. Also, the deliveries that can be left alone, could not be as his bat is already outside off stump line. I'm glad Aus did a good home work and exposed this glaring error in technique.

  • on November 27, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    Australia cannot win without sledging. All successful Australian teams of the past (Chappell's team, Waugh's team and Ponting's team) had one thing in common. They all used mental disintegration through verbals as a team tactic to put oppositions off their game. Reacting to it usually makes things worse, so the best England can do is shut up and perform.

  • Patchmaster on November 27, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    Funny how Warner gets a couple of runs and all of a sudden he talking like he's a world beater....and he's a long long way from that, in fact he has a lot to prove, and you can tell he's unproven because he has to do the talking with his mouth and not his cricket, it was only a few months ago when he was dropped for being 'weak' in the run scoring department.

  • vswami on November 27, 2013, 6:51 GMT

    I dont think any cricketer needs to suffer abuse on the field. Its the job of the umpire to prevent abuse and they are confused about their roles. Banter and chirping is fine, but not abuse. ICC should once and for all clear the situation by laying down some markers on whats allowed and whats not, and let the umpires interpret the situation and take charge.

  • on November 27, 2013, 6:48 GMT

    That's it Mitch, keep quiet, let the chirpers chirp, and let your bowling and batting do the talking, MoM for a reason.

  • Chris_P on November 27, 2013, 6:41 GMT

    @landl47, MJ is speaking from experience after the touch up he got in 2009! He seems to think it affects everyone like it did him at the time. Whoever got to him & had him use the negative jibes & songs to inspire him should be conscripted as he did a great job. I am still out on MJ, since South Africa in 2009 he has never delivered on a consistent level, so I'll save my hoopla a little while yet, plus the drop in pitch at Adelaide won't be holding any demons for batsmen.

  • DaisonGarvasis on November 27, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    Well, its pretty shameful of England coach to come and call for a truce!!! When England was dishing it out in England the AUS team took it manfully. Whats with england after one loss they want sledging to stop. They think its "disrespectful"? Come on grow up!

  • Sir_Francis on November 27, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    Sledging (mental disintegration) is a modern invention. Didn't happen when I was a kid. Tough, hard cricket was player for over a century before it was felt abuse was better than skill. There was no tougher, harder player than Bradman but if someone in his team sledged their career was over. And today, not everyone sledges. Basically weak individuals following the pack do it. As Orangatan said, The great West Indies teams never did it and only ever said one word on the field, "Howzat!!". It's not neccessary and only bad human beings indulge in it. Doesn't matter how good a cricketer you are if you are a bad person. Did Sachin ever do it? Of course not. Still waiting for Warner's apology for crossing the line and disrespecting the game of cricket publicly.

  • on November 27, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    If you have to resort to these insults, it shows a complete lack of confidence in your ability. The Aussies are rattled because they have lost three ashes series in a row.

    Cricket once had a reputation for fair play played by gentlemen, not anymore

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on November 27, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    I am liking the aggression and in your face attitude being shown by the Aussies, but recent history of this Australian team shows that their performances are much like Mitchell Johnson's bowling; inconsistent and unreliable. It just leaves me a tad worried that it might come back to bite us.

  • on November 27, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    One thing for sure!! it's good to see Australian cricket finally waking up from a slumber! And as an Indian fan I sure would be very keen to see what happens when next time the Aussies play the current India outfit in a test series. But having said that, yes there should be some limits to the sledging especially the avoidable use of four letter words because one has to keep in mind that budding young cricketers look up to the stars as their role models and such gutter behaviour is not quite the standard the stars should set for them!

  • Cakeman84 on November 27, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    Must have been Clarke reacting to something Anderson said to one of the fielders, a batsman of Anderson's ability is not going to trouble Australia. With a lead of 380+ runs on the board, they just needed to bowl a few straight ones, and begin the celebrations, so I think it was more personal than calculated intimidation/distraction.

    Could be fun to see what happens next time Clarke comes to the batting crease, especially if England are on top at the time.

    I think far too much is being made of all this, worse stuff is said in English Schoolboy cricket at times.

  • Yunzi on November 27, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Where is match referee and where the hell is ICC.?? if something happen with the firepower India or never dependable Pakistan..or Sri Lanka everyone would have nudged their noses and the situation would have been different.. Cricket is becoming hatred except IPL. The only test match i watch with so much of excitement for the whole year..and now i feel giving up on that also...

  • on November 27, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    When Johnson was in a mess 4 years ago in England the poms were more than happy to let him have it. In the media and on the field. Its amazing how the worm turns know we have England on the back foot and already crying fowl as the Australian pace attack lets them have it. Good for the goose as the saying goes but these rules dont apply when you play against Australia?

  • Rahul_78 on November 27, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    Let the Aussies be Aussies and play them their brash, hard and attacking cricket. Warner and Johnson has relinquished the memories of Slater and Thommos days. And thank God for that. There are few better sites in test cricket when an opener is flaying an attack on the opening day or a fast bowler really bowling fast and ball is buzzing around the ears of the batsmen. I dont know what generally astute Flower was up to when he suggested he might be talking to opposition coach to tone it down a bit. He never felt the need to do it when POMs were going about their business and winning last few ashes series. It is common knowledge that Anderson, Broad and co are no saints and then there is a Barmy Army. Johnson himself has been at the end of relentless chants, banners and ridicule from the English supporters and media.

  • landl47 on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    I think Johnson is fooling himself if he thinks England will be worried by a few verbals.

    Now if he'd said they didn't care for 90+mph balls flying round their ears, he'd have a point.

  • jmcilhinney on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    It's kinda funny that, on one hand, people are saying that it's OK for players to sledge because these are grown men and they can take it yet, on the other hand, Mitchell Johnson are saying that England can't take it so they're going to keep it up. I very much doubt that Australia's sledging had all that much effect at all. They simply played much better than England. Are you telling me that through previous losses Australia were holding their tongues and it's only here that they decided to let loose? Please! Australia played well and England played poorly on a ground in Australia that suited Australia more. If anyone really feels that Australia need to mouth off to win then what does that say about their actual cricket? I think that players from any country who indulge in this behaviour make themselves look foolish.

  • Basil777 on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    Good see bit of muscle flexing between the poms and aussies; just a pity the real number 1 and 2 in the world SA and India have nothing to say when they beat both these teams

  • plow on November 27, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    I love it. This has given the series real edge and interest. This is test cricket at its best. Two old foes going at it full bore, no holds barred. Can't wait for the second test!

  • xtrafalgarx on November 27, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    @cccrider: Dead right, Siddle was ripping into Anderson there, but Anderson has had his time in the sun before. I loved seeing or boys charged up after so long, I liked Clarke finally stepping up for one of his players like a real leader.

  • ShutTheGate on November 27, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    Aussie cricket feels like it's been asleep for 5 years and it's just woken up. It's good to see. This series should be super exciting all the way through.

  • orangtan on November 27, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Why is it essential to indulge in verbals, let your bowling/batting do the talking as the great West Indian cricketers of the 70s and 80s did, and indeed as Mitch Johnson did in the Gabba Test. Clarke was unlucky to be cauight red-handed by the stump cam but the worst culprit was Siddle who snarled a spray of unprintable invective as soon as Australia won. England are poor losers and Australia are very ungracious winners, too bad we have to sit through 4 more Tests with all this bad blood, small wonder that kids are more violent and foul-mouthed than ever .

  • on November 27, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    cricket turning dirty. why icc can't allow abusing and sledging when it is so important for some teams and players to compliment for their inability to out perform tgeir competitor.

  • cccrider on November 27, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    I wouldn't mind knowing what Siddle was saying when Anderson got out. Siddle was fired up!

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  • cccrider on November 27, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    I wouldn't mind knowing what Siddle was saying when Anderson got out. Siddle was fired up!

  • on November 27, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    cricket turning dirty. why icc can't allow abusing and sledging when it is so important for some teams and players to compliment for their inability to out perform tgeir competitor.

  • orangtan on November 27, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Why is it essential to indulge in verbals, let your bowling/batting do the talking as the great West Indian cricketers of the 70s and 80s did, and indeed as Mitch Johnson did in the Gabba Test. Clarke was unlucky to be cauight red-handed by the stump cam but the worst culprit was Siddle who snarled a spray of unprintable invective as soon as Australia won. England are poor losers and Australia are very ungracious winners, too bad we have to sit through 4 more Tests with all this bad blood, small wonder that kids are more violent and foul-mouthed than ever .

  • ShutTheGate on November 27, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    Aussie cricket feels like it's been asleep for 5 years and it's just woken up. It's good to see. This series should be super exciting all the way through.

  • xtrafalgarx on November 27, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    @cccrider: Dead right, Siddle was ripping into Anderson there, but Anderson has had his time in the sun before. I loved seeing or boys charged up after so long, I liked Clarke finally stepping up for one of his players like a real leader.

  • plow on November 27, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    I love it. This has given the series real edge and interest. This is test cricket at its best. Two old foes going at it full bore, no holds barred. Can't wait for the second test!

  • Basil777 on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    Good see bit of muscle flexing between the poms and aussies; just a pity the real number 1 and 2 in the world SA and India have nothing to say when they beat both these teams

  • jmcilhinney on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    It's kinda funny that, on one hand, people are saying that it's OK for players to sledge because these are grown men and they can take it yet, on the other hand, Mitchell Johnson are saying that England can't take it so they're going to keep it up. I very much doubt that Australia's sledging had all that much effect at all. They simply played much better than England. Are you telling me that through previous losses Australia were holding their tongues and it's only here that they decided to let loose? Please! Australia played well and England played poorly on a ground in Australia that suited Australia more. If anyone really feels that Australia need to mouth off to win then what does that say about their actual cricket? I think that players from any country who indulge in this behaviour make themselves look foolish.

  • landl47 on November 27, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    I think Johnson is fooling himself if he thinks England will be worried by a few verbals.

    Now if he'd said they didn't care for 90+mph balls flying round their ears, he'd have a point.

  • Rahul_78 on November 27, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    Let the Aussies be Aussies and play them their brash, hard and attacking cricket. Warner and Johnson has relinquished the memories of Slater and Thommos days. And thank God for that. There are few better sites in test cricket when an opener is flaying an attack on the opening day or a fast bowler really bowling fast and ball is buzzing around the ears of the batsmen. I dont know what generally astute Flower was up to when he suggested he might be talking to opposition coach to tone it down a bit. He never felt the need to do it when POMs were going about their business and winning last few ashes series. It is common knowledge that Anderson, Broad and co are no saints and then there is a Barmy Army. Johnson himself has been at the end of relentless chants, banners and ridicule from the English supporters and media.