West Indies news June 20, 2011

WICB cuts contact with Ramnarine, WIPA backs chief

ESPNcricinfo staff
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The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) has decided to snap contact with the president of the West Indies Players' Association (WIPA) Dinanath Ramnarine due to what it claims was his "threatening action" against board CEO Ernest Hilaire and "unprofessional behaviour" during a meeting arranged to resolve the problem over Chris Gayle's non-selection.

WIPA has responded by expressing their confidence in Ramnarine and demanding Hilaire apologise for what they claim are defamatory remarks about Ramnarine. Both bodies, though, said they will continue to deal with each other over issues concerning players.

"The WICB will continue to treat WIPA, the representative body of the players, with the highest degree of respect and as a principal partner in West Indies cricket and will continue to engage WIPA on matters pertaining to West Indian players," a release issued by the WICB, following a meeting of its board of directors, stated. "However, given Mr. Dinanath Ramnarine's threatening action towards the WICB Chief Executive Officer and the unprofessional conduct of Mr. Ramnarine during a recent meeting on June 14 2011, the Board will no longer engage with Mr. Ramnarine on any issue unless there is a change in his behaviour and conduct."

In response, WIPA issued their own release, slamming what they claim are "street tactics" from the WICB in attempting to construe fervent negotiations as something more. "The WIPA board wishes to make clear that it has complete confidence in its President and CEO Mr. Dinanath Ramnarine who continues to have full authority to represent WIPA in all matters," the WIPA release said. "WIPA fully expects that there will be no difficulty with the WICB dealing with any WIPA personnel since WIPA is prepared to deal with any WICB representatives and does deal with any WICB representatives even when WIPA considers that representative a bad choice whose conduct is unbecoming and expects reciprocity from the WICB."

Tempers, reportedly, flared during the meeting between the two parties, in which Gayle - who has been asked to retract statements he made in a radio interview in April - was also present. A WICB source alleged Ramnarine had lifted his chair and threatened to assault Hilaire. WIPA admitted to there being verbal disagreements and that Ramnarine had got out of his chair at one point, but claimed he had neither lifted the chair nor tried to hit Hilaire. In their release on June 20, they have expressed concern that no proceedings have been brought against Hilaire by the WICB for his behaviour during the meeting.

The meeting, whose details were leaked to the media, proved inconclusive and Gayle wasn't picked for the first Test in Jamaica. However, in its release, the WICB said it "continue efforts to resolve the issues with Mr. Gayle".

Some progress appears to have been made in the board's interaction with Shivnarine Chanderpaul, who had slammed the West Indies management in a radio interview prior to the Test series against Pakistan. The WICB met with Chanderpaul ahead of the first Test against India in Kingston "in what was a fruitful and productive meeting regarding his future involvement in West Indies cricket".

In the case of Sulieman Benn, who hasn't been considered for selection due to unfavourable reports from the management about his behaviour during the World Cup, the board said "it will continue to engage Mr. Sulieman Benn in an attempt to resolve issues relating to his discipline and behaviour".

Among other decisions, the board scheduled the Caribbean Twenty20 tournament in Trinidad and Barbados between January 9 and 22 next year, and re-branded its 50-over competition as 'Regional Super50". It will be held in Guyana, though the dates are still to be decided.

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  • on June 23, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    Hope president Jagdeo and the west cricket board can bring me back to the islands to play cricket for Guyana and the west indies under a paid contract system.I am a dual citizen both american and guyanese citizen.

  • on June 23, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    @ Setting Sun. With due respects to you and Michael Holding. I respect Holding for his professional view during cricket matches. But just because he has a personal view on Ramnaraine, does not make the latter wrong. We in India have enough demi-gods with their own prejudice and biases. Some so transparent that I do not understand how they get away with it. As an outsider, my view is that neither WICB nor WIPA does any credit to themselves or cricket. After all you must be exceptional if you can make PCB look better by comparison.

  • stevedd on June 22, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    Has CEO Ernest Hilaire any knowledge about cricket. West Indies people wake up and help gayle come back and play the second test as he is in great form, and also do not forget to throw the joker hilaire out!!

  • Robster1 on June 22, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    The usual calm Michael Holding's quite forthright and emotional stance about Ramnarine and the damage he is doing to Windies cricket to further his own career, is evidence enough for me that Ramnarine has to relived of his job. Ramnarine does realise he is in his current job to ensure Windies cricket gets stronger. The problems since Ramnarine had held the post have been extraordinary.

  • TheLight on June 22, 2011, 1:09 GMT

    WICB are dishonest and intent on destruction of WIPA at the expense of WI cricket.

    they are spiting their face by cutting off their nose...case in point...giving retainer contracts to 40+ year olds who have no chance of playing cricket for the WI while 25 year olds such as ramdin have been discarded and left out in the wilderness.

    they have no plan nor vision for WI cricket and they will run WI cricket to the ground.

    If you think that players such as ramdin have a technical flaw (never a discipline issue brought up), why not work with him to improve while he sits out of WI cricket?

  • indianzen on June 21, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Just that these guys should learn from the Indian and Lankan Cricket board, who are supporting its players to maximum possible extent...

  • simonviller on June 21, 2011, 4:53 GMT

    Some one commented that '' the soul of West Indies cricket is rotting '' . I'll say that the soul of West Indies cricket is being purged of it's sins ;and all it's sinners have to repent before they are re-admitted to the fold ...We say that players are professionals ,thus when PROS: fail , in behavior or performance ,they should be held accountable ,so what's wrong with the management adressing these issues in the present team ? The West Indies board is being malligned and unfairly soo ,for trying to improve the image of the team in a possitive way and we just have to give them time to cure the mess .

  • Windies89 on June 21, 2011, 2:56 GMT

    there is only one resolution to this...the heads of both WICB and WIPA must resign. These men obviously can't get along with the other side and this is only hurting the players/team. I don't really side with the WICB or WIPA, and I believe until this happens, there won't be any change or settlement of this on going feud.

  • Silloh on June 21, 2011, 0:06 GMT

    Way to go WICB. Indiscipline must not again be tolerated at all in WI cricket. Hopefully , under the new CEO, going are the days where players will not be distracted by off the cricket field events. The fans have tolerated such for far too long and we need change and positive results. Once the results are attained the players would be compensated based on performance. Change is always traumatic for most persons. I would love to see Gayle back on the WI side in the next test but it certainly can not be at all cost. In times like this, Gayle should realise who his true friends are. Follow Chanderpaul and represent yourself man. You do not need someone to express your true feelings. Then let your bat do most of the talking after sorting out the differences with the WICB. I expect compromises on both sides in order to move on .

  • VisBal on June 20, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    Now let us hope the players follow suit...

  • on June 23, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    Hope president Jagdeo and the west cricket board can bring me back to the islands to play cricket for Guyana and the west indies under a paid contract system.I am a dual citizen both american and guyanese citizen.

  • on June 23, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    @ Setting Sun. With due respects to you and Michael Holding. I respect Holding for his professional view during cricket matches. But just because he has a personal view on Ramnaraine, does not make the latter wrong. We in India have enough demi-gods with their own prejudice and biases. Some so transparent that I do not understand how they get away with it. As an outsider, my view is that neither WICB nor WIPA does any credit to themselves or cricket. After all you must be exceptional if you can make PCB look better by comparison.

  • stevedd on June 22, 2011, 19:54 GMT

    Has CEO Ernest Hilaire any knowledge about cricket. West Indies people wake up and help gayle come back and play the second test as he is in great form, and also do not forget to throw the joker hilaire out!!

  • Robster1 on June 22, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    The usual calm Michael Holding's quite forthright and emotional stance about Ramnarine and the damage he is doing to Windies cricket to further his own career, is evidence enough for me that Ramnarine has to relived of his job. Ramnarine does realise he is in his current job to ensure Windies cricket gets stronger. The problems since Ramnarine had held the post have been extraordinary.

  • TheLight on June 22, 2011, 1:09 GMT

    WICB are dishonest and intent on destruction of WIPA at the expense of WI cricket.

    they are spiting their face by cutting off their nose...case in point...giving retainer contracts to 40+ year olds who have no chance of playing cricket for the WI while 25 year olds such as ramdin have been discarded and left out in the wilderness.

    they have no plan nor vision for WI cricket and they will run WI cricket to the ground.

    If you think that players such as ramdin have a technical flaw (never a discipline issue brought up), why not work with him to improve while he sits out of WI cricket?

  • indianzen on June 21, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Just that these guys should learn from the Indian and Lankan Cricket board, who are supporting its players to maximum possible extent...

  • simonviller on June 21, 2011, 4:53 GMT

    Some one commented that '' the soul of West Indies cricket is rotting '' . I'll say that the soul of West Indies cricket is being purged of it's sins ;and all it's sinners have to repent before they are re-admitted to the fold ...We say that players are professionals ,thus when PROS: fail , in behavior or performance ,they should be held accountable ,so what's wrong with the management adressing these issues in the present team ? The West Indies board is being malligned and unfairly soo ,for trying to improve the image of the team in a possitive way and we just have to give them time to cure the mess .

  • Windies89 on June 21, 2011, 2:56 GMT

    there is only one resolution to this...the heads of both WICB and WIPA must resign. These men obviously can't get along with the other side and this is only hurting the players/team. I don't really side with the WICB or WIPA, and I believe until this happens, there won't be any change or settlement of this on going feud.

  • Silloh on June 21, 2011, 0:06 GMT

    Way to go WICB. Indiscipline must not again be tolerated at all in WI cricket. Hopefully , under the new CEO, going are the days where players will not be distracted by off the cricket field events. The fans have tolerated such for far too long and we need change and positive results. Once the results are attained the players would be compensated based on performance. Change is always traumatic for most persons. I would love to see Gayle back on the WI side in the next test but it certainly can not be at all cost. In times like this, Gayle should realise who his true friends are. Follow Chanderpaul and represent yourself man. You do not need someone to express your true feelings. Then let your bat do most of the talking after sorting out the differences with the WICB. I expect compromises on both sides in order to move on .

  • VisBal on June 20, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    Now let us hope the players follow suit...

  • SettingSun on June 20, 2011, 15:14 GMT

    I don't know if anyone saw it, but a couple of days ago during a rain break between England and Sri Lanka, Michael Holding was talking on Sky about the Gayle stand-off, and made a thinly veiled mention of Ramnarine and how he isn't even worth mentioning because he makes him so angry. If he makes Holding angry then he must be doing something wrong. It was a fascinating piece actually, and he suggested that Gayle would be playing for the West Indies today if it wasn't for Ramnarine.

  • HorseH on June 20, 2011, 15:04 GMT

    More than just Fire in Babylon this time...its on the road to total destruction. Even the laughably hopeless PCB are not as dysfunctional than the WICB.

  • rrasx on June 20, 2011, 14:06 GMT

    The WICB & WIPA is in a propaganda war (as Tony Cozier said) - They should have these meetings made public (via TV).

  • on June 20, 2011, 11:55 GMT

    Many years ago, West Indies Cricket,was mostly for the 'LOVE' of the game, players put their heart and soul into the game, and the fans were entertained with very competitive cricket, and the West Indies team won many matches, why because it was team effort. Nowadays the game is all about money, fair enough, an man must be paid for his efforts, it ain't easy going out there to face a cork and leather ball coming at u at whatever miles per hour, also it ain't easy to run down a pitch and bowl accurately, stump to stump. But our cricketers do their utmost best to entertain us and win matches at their of getting injured, so we must do our best to respect their efforts, and not embarrass, nor belittle them in any way. I know there are rule that are in place that the players should adhere to, if not, they should be disciplined, but there should not be this big romantic love affair going on between Chris Gayle and the WICB for so long, there should be a decision.

  • on June 20, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Finally and i hope permanently :) Yesterday i asked about Benn and now being told he has to appear in-front of the committee for bad behavior at WC, seems to me since that time he hasnt played and there was plenty time for this issue to already be resolved. Good Luck Boys

  • tappee74 on June 20, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    Even though the WI cricket board is slammed for what seems to be a power right,it is imperative that the WIPA and players act in a civilised manner.Although agreeing on decisions by either party seemed to be at logger head, we must act within the confines of dignity and respect.Mr Ramnarine cannot be holding an executive position and behave in a disorderly manner.It could be agreed that people get angry when things don"t go their way,but when at the helm and you are representing a region,one must inculcate the highest form of professionalism.I am happy to read that the Chanderpaul issue has been resolved.Shiv is a decent gentleman and an asset to WI cricket.I would be more than happy to see the Gyale matter be resolved and him being in the team.

  • on June 20, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Why this on the first day of the test match? Total ineptitude. Time for the former players the lead West Indies cricket.

  • pvwadekar on June 20, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Very good news .. Ramnarine should be kicked out ... his massive ego is one the reason WICA and WICB are at each other's throat all the time ..

  • Stos on June 20, 2011, 7:05 GMT

    Good to hear, it's probably taken longer than it should have.

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  • Stos on June 20, 2011, 7:05 GMT

    Good to hear, it's probably taken longer than it should have.

  • pvwadekar on June 20, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Very good news .. Ramnarine should be kicked out ... his massive ego is one the reason WICA and WICB are at each other's throat all the time ..

  • on June 20, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Why this on the first day of the test match? Total ineptitude. Time for the former players the lead West Indies cricket.

  • tappee74 on June 20, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    Even though the WI cricket board is slammed for what seems to be a power right,it is imperative that the WIPA and players act in a civilised manner.Although agreeing on decisions by either party seemed to be at logger head, we must act within the confines of dignity and respect.Mr Ramnarine cannot be holding an executive position and behave in a disorderly manner.It could be agreed that people get angry when things don"t go their way,but when at the helm and you are representing a region,one must inculcate the highest form of professionalism.I am happy to read that the Chanderpaul issue has been resolved.Shiv is a decent gentleman and an asset to WI cricket.I would be more than happy to see the Gyale matter be resolved and him being in the team.

  • on June 20, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Finally and i hope permanently :) Yesterday i asked about Benn and now being told he has to appear in-front of the committee for bad behavior at WC, seems to me since that time he hasnt played and there was plenty time for this issue to already be resolved. Good Luck Boys

  • on June 20, 2011, 11:55 GMT

    Many years ago, West Indies Cricket,was mostly for the 'LOVE' of the game, players put their heart and soul into the game, and the fans were entertained with very competitive cricket, and the West Indies team won many matches, why because it was team effort. Nowadays the game is all about money, fair enough, an man must be paid for his efforts, it ain't easy going out there to face a cork and leather ball coming at u at whatever miles per hour, also it ain't easy to run down a pitch and bowl accurately, stump to stump. But our cricketers do their utmost best to entertain us and win matches at their of getting injured, so we must do our best to respect their efforts, and not embarrass, nor belittle them in any way. I know there are rule that are in place that the players should adhere to, if not, they should be disciplined, but there should not be this big romantic love affair going on between Chris Gayle and the WICB for so long, there should be a decision.

  • rrasx on June 20, 2011, 14:06 GMT

    The WICB & WIPA is in a propaganda war (as Tony Cozier said) - They should have these meetings made public (via TV).

  • HorseH on June 20, 2011, 15:04 GMT

    More than just Fire in Babylon this time...its on the road to total destruction. Even the laughably hopeless PCB are not as dysfunctional than the WICB.

  • SettingSun on June 20, 2011, 15:14 GMT

    I don't know if anyone saw it, but a couple of days ago during a rain break between England and Sri Lanka, Michael Holding was talking on Sky about the Gayle stand-off, and made a thinly veiled mention of Ramnarine and how he isn't even worth mentioning because he makes him so angry. If he makes Holding angry then he must be doing something wrong. It was a fascinating piece actually, and he suggested that Gayle would be playing for the West Indies today if it wasn't for Ramnarine.

  • VisBal on June 20, 2011, 16:20 GMT

    Now let us hope the players follow suit...