Sri Lanka v India, Group F, World Twenty20 2010, St Lucia

Thanks for coming, India

India's IPL stars have been exposed at the World Twenty20 again. Apart from technical shortcomings, it suggests a shocking lack of respect for the international game and its challenges

Sidharth Monga

May 12, 2010

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Gautam Gambhir's troubles against the short ball continued, West Indies v India, World T20, Group F, Bridgetown, May 9, 2010
Bouncers returned to trouble India, much like they did in England last year, but the team was unprepared to handle them © AFP

It was almost farcical. A group of nervous West Indies players was actually hoping an underprepared, lethargic Indian side would keep them alive in the tournament by beating Sri Lanka. As India went about conceding 33 runs in the last two overs - admittedly they didn't have any interest left in the tournament - the IPL final came to mind.

Kieron Pollard seemed like he was pulling off a heist against Chennai Super Kings when MS Dhoni came up with the move of a genius. He placed a mid-off almost behind the umpire, and a long-off almost behind him. The bowler was asked to bowl full and straight, and err, if he had to, on the fuller side. Lo, Pollard was out, caught at the very straight mid-off. Later Dhoni explained how he had not pulled a rabbit out of the hat, and how it had been a rehearsed move, which had worked against such big hitters as Matthew Hayden in the warm-up games. Yes, Indian cricketers have time to prepare and play warm-up games for the IPL, but not for major international events like the World Twenty20.

How impotent India's batsmen must feel. They knew exactly where they would be hit, they had enough time - about a year - to prepare for it, yet they reacted to balls headed for the ribcage and upwards almost as if it was a hitherto unknown underhand tactic. And there was no devil in the Kensington Oval track either: it just offered pace and true bounce. No sideways movement, no unplayable swing.

Unlike Dhoni with his genius move in the IPL final, not many in the batting line-up can be said to have worked endlessly in the nets, at camps, during warm-up matches, to try and eliminate the weakness that was pointed out to them a year ago, by the likes of Luke Wright among others. Between the really important cricket, a number of needless ODI series and tri-series involving Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, (both outside their FTP commitments and both involving the BCCI's unconditional allies in cricket politics), the IPL (demanding schedule, travel, inane media work, mandatory late-night parties), and the false confidence that the flat pitches and hyperbole during the IPL tend to create, who has the time to think about bouncers? If they had had the time, at least some improvement would have shown. They actually seemed more clueless this time around.

For two editions of the World Twenty20 running, India haven't won a Super Eights game. But it is the manner of the defeats, almost identical to the ones produced any time this line-up bats on a bouncy track, that will hurt them more. To be fair to them, there is hardly any time in Twenty20s to duck under a few bouncers and try to wear the bowlers down. There is a reason, though, why such tactics are not tried against the likes of Mahela Jayawardene, Shane Watson, Kevin Pietersen, et al. The bowlers know those men can hook them for sixes; the Indians' only scoring shot to well-directed bouncers has been the top edge over the keeper's head. Their team-mate Virender Sehwag is a perfect man to learn from; bowlers have tried bowling short at him but don't quite like being upper-cut for six or getting whipped away for four.

Suresh Raina has reiterated that if he's not allowed to plonk the front foot down, all those heaved sixes and slog-sweeps become top edges that go nowhere: against Australia he nearly played on with an edge that could have hit a low-flying aircraft. On a slow and low St Lucia pitch against Sri Lanka, he was back in form, crackling away to a good-looking 63. M Vijay, who had come across as a more solid batsman, doesn't attack the short ball. Although Gautam Gambhir did most things right, his wrists didn't drop in time, something he will now have to contend with in the longest version of the game too. Yuvraj Singh managed to keep the pull shots down, but his head kept falling away. After a couple of short ones - not nasty ones mind you - Rohit Sharma stopped moving his feet completely and kept edging slower deliveries floated outside off.

MS Dhoni and Yusuf Pathan synchronise their movements after colliding, West Indies v India, World T20, Group F, Bridgetown, May 9, 2010
India's fielding standards were below average, and of the quality on display during the IPL © AFP

Neither does Yusuf Pathan enjoy the captain's confidence to bat before the game is almost over, nor has he shown the aptitude to translate his daredevilry from the IPL ("greatest innings" and all that) to the international level. Dhoni felt he needed to pick an extra batsman in back-to-back Twenty20 internationals, going with just three bowlers, much like he invariably did in the IPL, where he picked one of Manpreet Gony, Joginder Sharma, L Balaji or Sudeep Tyagi as a specialist bowler.

The bouncers actually did the team a favour. They hid that the captain seemed to have no confidence in the specialist bowlers picked by the selectors (R Vinay Kumar was finally played after Praveen Kumar had returned home, Umesh Yadav was found to have travelled with the wrong visa, and Zaheer Khan had a niggle). That the captain was not only defensive, he was stubborn too. That Gambhir ran between the wickets in a manner that Ravi Shastri called pathetic - and it takes a lot to get Shastri to utter a negative word on air. (Nor does Gambhir usually convert threes into twos.) It hid that India's fielding continued to match IPL standards - minus the crazy catches pulled off by the likes of David Hussey.

It turns out there is a far wider gap between the quality of cricket in IPL and internationals than the Indian team lets on. Their coach is slightly old-fashioned and saner. For last year's embarrassment, Gary Kirsten blamed IPL fatigue and the sudden shift from that substandard cricket to top-quality international stuff, without sugar-coating his words. He also spoke about how his team had handed Australia their worst Test-series defeat in recent times, and that it followed a gruelling camp was not a coincidence. Only a board as deafened by the sound of money as India's could have not listened to the man. This time he may as well ask for subtitles.

The IPL tragics often cite India's No. 1 ranking in Tests to make themselves believe the cricket can't be so bad. Therein lies the major flaw: Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman are too established and too good to let a hit-and-giggle league effect their techniques or work ethic. And it's because of them, not the IPL stars, that India are No. 1 in Tests.

Dhoni admits his side is tired. He says that's the reality of being an India cricketer. He admits most of his line-up can't attack the well-directed bouncer. He says his spinners bowled flat and his seamers kept bowling the same pace. He says his side didn't play to its potential, but he finds nothing wrong in either the IPL or the scheduling. Yet clearer signs of either a tired or unprepared side could not have been cited.

While defending the IPL and the scheduling, Dhoni said, "Players need to be smart because IPL is not only about cricket. You have to respect your body, and if you don't do that, the IPL is draining." The team and the board will do well to add international cricket to the to-respect list.

Sidharth Monga is a staff writer at Cricinfo

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Posted by chokkashokka on (May 19, 2010, 1:15 GMT)

The way I see it - talent is not something you can control but effort is something you can. There are a lot of very talented players on this Indian team and just as many lazy ones - more often than not it is the talented players who are afflicted with the laziness. As a team, its is much better to have a bunch of humble hard working players than a bunch of bloated talented ones. It is this mentality that I'm bigger than the other players or I'm above criticism which is root for all things bad. One performance one accomplishment seems to over-inflate these guys' egos and the lack of mental toughness is exploited by the opponents all the time. For a culture that promotes humility, this breed of new cricketers ought to stay true to themselves and start to think as a unit. The culture of giving your 100% both in preparation & execution needs to driven into these guys and perhaps at the lower school, college & club levels with no special treatment for anyone. Effort trumps talent over time.

Posted by rabotat on (May 18, 2010, 23:42 GMT)

great to see indian batsmen play the bouncers aimed at their head and body. looking forward to seing more of the same.......

Posted by Raja22222 on (May 15, 2010, 16:45 GMT)

Stop lobbying for waste fellows like Robin uthappa. Check his average both in domestic and International level at is not even successful once in 7 matches. Check the way he got dismissed by the International bowlers. He is an absolute waste and could not utilized his opportunities. How many of the karnatka guys cry for uthappa if he is not from Karnataka. Go by class , Technic, potential and learning attributes. Take it as granted Robin Uthappa is not gonna shine at any international level for India. What we need is technically strong cricketers who can also play big shots and score faster like Tendulkar and Shewagh .I believe M.Vijay is a bright prospect on this. Only thing is he needs international exposure by playing county games or going for a special camp to NCA as suggested by Gavaskar. Dont discourage young talents they can do wonders if coached well.Can you deny that M.Vijay lacks technique and class. Why are u blaming selectors?

Posted by aussiecurry on (May 15, 2010, 7:06 GMT)

Guys seems like every indian cricket fan is blowing at Dhoni,he is not selfish remember sometimes he takes the responsibility of being a captain thats when he is known as one of the best captain,sometimes captain has a strong believe in one player thinking that he is going to be a match winner when he fails it comes to happens with every captain,atleast under dhoni we are number one today which has never happened even when we had the world's best players,this years T20 almost everyone failed in their dept except Raina,Yuvi you need to come back man you are a freaky player for the opposition,forget about Gambhir he is good when his GURU is playing,MRF need to do something different so that atleast we get bowlers like srinath and prasad if not KAPIL DEV,thats when i think we will play guys stop picking on Dhoni when he doesn't have a bowler to open the innings what he is going to do-hope for the best for next years oneday world cup

Posted by   on (May 14, 2010, 20:45 GMT)

i m not agree with dhoni's words that ipl parties pooped indian crickters. if IPL parties pooped themthan y he didnt say on that.time y he is saying today after loosing the series. it means either he didnt know that IPL parties really creating some problem 4 them or he was not serious 4 the T20 world cup. he was just enjoying his life.and one more thing in ipl parties not only indian crickters was taking part. there are so many england , aussies, westindians cricketers who was playing in the ipl and they still performing well like hussey or warnerwhen murali vijay was failing in first 3 matches than y didnt he dropp.y chawala?? y not ojha??? y not utthappa?y saurabh tiwari ignored??? it was the fault of team management and dhoni also . he must give his keen eyes to the talent not on 4 parites

Posted by SamRoy on (May 14, 2010, 20:39 GMT)

Siddharth, at the end of the it's just Twenty20 World Cup and no big deal. I would rather like India to win test series' in SA and Australia in the next one and half years. But to do that Dhoni must understand the difference between world class talent and 'gully cricket' talent. Vijay has problem against quality fast bowling. He is not very comfortable of the backfoot. Raina has lost all his grace (plus he can't play quality short pitched stuff). I forgot the last time he hit a cover drive for a boundary. Must have been a couple of years ago. Badrinath looked like a novice against Steyn. Even when he scored a fifty(on debut) all his boundaries were edges. Pujara looked uncomfortable against quality quicks in the IPL. Even though Kohli is brash, arrogant, overconfident,etc., he is the only young world class player we have. Replace Yuvraj with Kohli in the test team. Do it now! The other one with potential to make it big at test level is Rohit but he lacks Kohli's desire to succeed.

Posted by sam911 on (May 14, 2010, 15:51 GMT)

What happened we r the champions and u r not allowed us to play the final, how can you play the final without the world champions, and this is also unfair by the ICC that we have to play the low grade teams before and also we have to beat them, so in protest we quit, haven't u seen we r the best as u can see in IPL, everyone praised us, and we even not allowed low grade players to play in IPL( like Bangladesh, Pakistan, Zimbabwe etc), and we earn less money and fame by palying in Wrld cup, even though we give this sacrifice, travel so far and its an an honour for ICC that the world's greatest team has opted to come to play World cup, but as promised that we have to play only one match which is Final by default, ICC betrayed us. Shame on ICC

Posted by   on (May 14, 2010, 10:51 GMT)

who play well deserve to win !!

Posted by ThinknAct on (May 14, 2010, 10:41 GMT)

If so many people have such a BIG problem with the IPL and Team India participating in the IPL, rather than complaining like always ... the best way to convey your message is to boycott viewing/following such events ...

My personal view is that if IPL could act as a good competitive match practise for players like Jayawardane, Kevin P, Kallis et all, the same can be applicable for Team India too ... No point in hounding the team after everything is over ...

Unfortunately, these players will continue playing like always and good Indian players like Trivedi and Irfan Pathan will continue being on the sidelines ...

Posted by aravindhan_c on (May 14, 2010, 10:00 GMT)

Dhoni did mention after winning the Chennai Super kings' match in the league phase saying they should atleast reach semi final as franchise owners invest a lot and it is the responsibility of the players to take the team to semi-final. Dont they get paid while playing for India? If Dhoni can take a franchise team to semi final(en-route to winning the IPL3), why cant Indian team full of so called stars,mega stars, super stars reach semi final or win atleast one match in second round?

Bring all the glamorous girls to the stadium and make them support the individual players when India plays.Will they start to play with sense then?Those so called glamorous girls or Ladies support and hug the players as their pockets will get filled with more cash when the team wins. Seems the players dont prefer the actual cricket fans supporting them?

Posted by rahul_studd on (May 14, 2010, 9:46 GMT)

blame the indian selector, coach and captain by not selecting proper and young guns and than having out of the competition all blames comes on players. First of all indian cricket should have 3 teams like 20/20, odi and test cricket. Give young guns chance in 20/20 to prove themselves which are future players of indian cricket in longer version of the game

Posted by   on (May 14, 2010, 1:27 GMT)

INDIA Again Disapoints me in each and every major league possible.. Dhoni does not even spend time selecting correct team... out of form players... bad selection,bad toss decission and heaven sake NO JADEJA ... he cant bat,bowl or even hold catches...

Posted by pranesh_csk_india on (May 13, 2010, 22:24 GMT)

this monga was probably one of those that was drooling all over dhoni after the IPL final....why doesnt some one talk about real reasons...I havent seen one artivle on Yuvi latest weapon....his tummy....some players are never written about negatively it seems,.

Posted by VAS4 on (May 13, 2010, 19:24 GMT)

MS Dhoni must step down as captain if he has any self respect left after the horrible performance and lack of commitment he has shown in the field. He never wanted to win. His attitude was taken over by all the others in the team. They just wanted to finish the game and go for shopping and parties that's all. We need a new captain and a new team of selectors. Why Jadeja and not Irfan pathan? Why yusuf pathan and not robin uthappa? Unfit, fat yuvraj singh should be rested atleast for one year from inidan team. It looks like the senior players of indian team are only there for ipl. There was no effort from dhoni to accelerate the scoring in the last five overs in the srilankan match. India should invest in the youth. consider pragyan ojha ahead of harbhajan. Zaheer khan should retire from t20. we need a new captian and a new team of selectors including ganguly and kumble.

Posted by sam7788 on (May 13, 2010, 18:01 GMT)

Hahahaha this is ridiculous - Umesh was found to have been traveling on a WRONG VISA for a world cup tournament. They gave him what a work visa or something hahahaha...this shows how professional and careful the BCCI and the team managers are. I wish someone more passionate about the game and the interest of the game was involved in Managing the team to selection to running the BCCI rather than freakin worrying about filling their own pockets with some Moolah. I mean come on...being the No.1 Test side and No.2 ODI side you show such a dismal performance and you don't do anything about your weakness of facing the short pitch balls when the whole world knows that that's your weakness...that is like walking into the lions den yourself when the lion knows that he is stronger than you and can eat you up. I am glad I love the Aussies too but only after India...which i see changing pretty soon. I favor the team that has passion and aggression to go out and win and not just play for the money!

Posted by ace330 on (May 13, 2010, 16:50 GMT)

I hope the public realize just how good and what a fantastic leader Sourav Ganguly was. Dhoni being the selfish man he is, is just undoing all of Sourav's good work.

The fact Inida is on top in Tests is due to Sourav and not to Dhoni's opportunistic leadership.

Get rid of Dhoni and lets have Viru Sehwag the new Captain of India !

Posted by batukbihari on (May 13, 2010, 16:32 GMT)

India's performance has brought a few points to the notice, - Debacle of Batting Second - In the first world T20 world cup, India batted second in very few games. Moreover, Indians are poor chasers even in the longer (50 over) version. Thus Dhoni's decision has been confounding. - Absence of 100% effort (visibly) - I remember, Sachin dived on the second last ball of a match against South Africa even as Sreesanth had given up on the chase. He is 38, and it is a pity that except for Dhoni nobody seems to match him in the effort department. - Perfume ball dilemma - Are such sitting ducks? If we are then how come we are number one in Test matches. Probably we have been playing to many matches on matty surfaces or probably there have been Sachin, Dravid and Laxman to the rescue.

If the Indian team thinks they get harsh call. haha. Ask a salesman, he earns a pittance and if he does not deliver his "&#" is kicked. Are these IPL kumar's so special to be kept away from all reason.

Posted by anmn on (May 13, 2010, 16:29 GMT)

Lost interest after three paras. Author seems to try to figure out what he wants to vent as he moved on...rather than writing with a purpose.

Posted by LeaderARH on (May 13, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

Thank you Siddharth sir for your words of wisdom.Without you,we wouldn't have known that we are useless against the short ball and stuff like that.Your choice of words makes it feel like a personal attack rather than a cricinfo article.I admit our players have been lazy in not measuring up against the short ball even after a year.Tell me,would anyone even had mentioned IPL parties if we would have done well?And in your own words,IT IS THE REALITY OF BEING AN INDIAN CRICKETER.Tell me sir,you are saying that the Indian cricketers do not respect International cricket but they have a lot of respect for the IPL.NOW TELL ME,do you think our dear BCCI will agree if a player says that he wants to prepare for the T20 world cup and does not want to play the IPL that season.Will the board agree???I back our team to learn from their mistakes and put up a better show.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 14:48 GMT)

Simply not hve courage & guts to fight against all odds. They're not very good at bouncy balls but that was also true for gr8 Steve Waugh and you know how he finds the way and technique to overcome his short comings. Once in Australia Sachin was out playing spinner on up at cover, you know what did he in his next innings? He never played a single shot in his 248* on that side.

These above example shows the determination, commitments and intensity of of two great players. And what is shown by Indian selectors and players, selecting out of form and overweight Yuvaraj singh, distinctly uncomfortable against rising ball on even Chinnaswami pitch in IPL a certain Yusuf Pathan, not selecting top two wicket takers and top 2 run getter and in form players in IPL, not giving chance to most damaging and destructive players like Uthappa, the players were more interested in partying, merrying and counting on number of girl friends instead of learning on how to tackle bouncy tracks of West Indies.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 14:38 GMT)

I know most of the people blasted me after this note but this is true weather you like it or not. In my opinion Team India is the bunch of the players where they have a focus on there individual performances, We all know the individually there players have most of the world records BUT as a Team when ever they are playing outside India they can't even exists. On the other end SL and PAK, I don't think world remember any person of there teams but we should think why they are above then team India. BCCI still think that they can buy anything with money the world richest cricket team and cricket board is fail to deliver and still they are promoting individualism by putting so much money into IPL with NO RESULT. See when there was no IPL India won the 20/20 world cup but after IPL they are not able to reach at Semi Finals.

Posted by on (May 13, 2010, 14:36 GMT)

Well I wont blame IPL for India's loss but it should be noted as India's traditional problem of facing short balls. Its nothing new for them. The main thing is that their experienced players like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman they combat with those weapons by their vast experience and maturity which is absent in most of the players of this squad. Even newer test teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe also use this weapon against them. Remember in recent series against Bangladesh Shahadat Hossain injuring Dravid and Rubel Hossain almost another one. In the last two test series against Zimbabwe (2001 and 2005) the medium pacers Streak and Blignaut caused plenty of problems to Indian batting line up by short deliveries and repeatedly took 5 or more wickets in an innings. So, its nothing new, just a continuation of an old trend. Then comes Gambhir, Sehwag & Co and their ordinary comments. They lack due respect for the opponents which bite them back. Better luck next time Indians.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 13:59 GMT)

T20 game can change in a matter of couple of overs. You cannot slack off for a single ball. Indians looked too darned relaxed during their do or die match. Same thing in the last years do or die match. How long is Dhoni going to ride his 2007 T20 world Championship victory wave?

Posted by Ehsan_Satti on (May 13, 2010, 13:36 GMT)

wow, IPL indian heroes, out side india zeros

Posted by ashamilton on (May 13, 2010, 13:10 GMT)

if i m the selector, i wud have select these players for t20 world cup

1.amar 2.akbar 3.antony 4.ganesh 5.ramesh 6.jai pal 7.aravind 8.govind 9.ram 10.rajes 11.dinesh

not heard of these players? al r my neighbours... who cud play better than our actual so called heroes ... jokers

what do u say guys? or else please send womens team for next world cup

Posted by venky91 on (May 13, 2010, 13:04 GMT)

The biggest failure of the tournament is Harbhajan Singh because of the fact that he was wicketless in the entire tournament.Hopefully India wins world cup.

Posted by rahul9450 on (May 13, 2010, 12:31 GMT)

if u cant face pacy deliveries why you cant practice as senior does. They are playing for money not for country. Raina never see towards the delivery while playing hook or pull. he played them with force.he cant make rus while chasing.pathan is such kind of batsman that he can play only spin attack. THESE all seems to be fuuny that our players have one skill each. Talking about DHONI THAT HE IS MAKIN RUNS IN ALMOST LOST MATCHES. HE IS MAKING HIS BATTING AVERAGE IN ODI`S. THIS IS NOT HIS SKILL ITS A NEGATIVE APPROACH MAKING RUNS.HE IA MAKING RUNS ALMOST AGAINST ASIAN COUNTRIES & IN ASIA, NOT AGAINST THE OZ,SA,ENGLAND. HIS CAPTAINCY IS MEASURED WHILE WINNING NOT IN LOOSING GAMES. THERE IS ATMOSPHERE CREATED TO PROTECT DHONI. THATS NOT FAIR THAT LOOSING GAMES ARE NOT FAULT OF HIS CAPTAINCY BUT WINNING GAMES HAD HIS HANDS.WHY????????????? WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

Posted by BeeArr on (May 13, 2010, 12:30 GMT)

Maui... Isn't it foolish? Aus and RSA coming close to india. As long as ignorant fans like you boast about the team, the team would not improve.Agreed India challenged Australia. But by far, Australia has been the best team of the decade. India briefly is in no 1 spot. Tell me, how many away test matches and series we won in Australia and South Africa. Beating NZL in featherbeds of Napier made you No1. And when Aus came with all their big ones out and a team building in process, India defeated in home tracks. And you are no1 due to this. Not in true pitches. Don't be so stupid to think India is as good as Aus and SA. In good tracks, India is 4th on list after, Aus, Eng and RSA. After RD and SRT, there is no batsman . As always poor fast bowlers. Why boast so much? And Yuvraj was /is/will never be an awesome batsman simply he is not test standard.

Posted by AKmAK on (May 13, 2010, 10:48 GMT)

We pity on you Indian playes!!! the way you exicuted your last game against SL (seems they want to return a.s.a.p). I personally with millions of Indian fans asking to BCCI to conduct and ENQUIRY and reveal it to public re. what actally happend this Players in 2010 T20 WCup. This is atleast BCCI can do some favour to Indian fans. Forget the past, please start the run for 2011 T20 Wcup, with all fresh bloods (definitely nobody in this squd ) and still we believes Team India can make it on 2011..all the very best.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 10:30 GMT)

i guess dhoni and team selectors are not interested in 20-20 cricket.The useless team went for west indies for playing 20-20 tournment. how can u expect murali vijay can fullfill the spot of virender shewag. opening is the important role in 20-20 cricket and selectors are thinking about money not more than pride or respect.look at the team travelling to Zimbabwe giving the important role of captaincy to unknown person and sending them. i think these people doesnt get tropy from zimbabwe controlling srilanka. according to me the bcci selectors should be removed from the position or keep some pressure on the selectors so that they can send good team without having politics while selecting the team.people are coming to see wining indian team not lossing indian team. so think and select the team for upcoming series.

Posted by BiSONN on (May 13, 2010, 9:51 GMT)

Excellent article. Very well written. I agree with everything. While at first I thought the IPL would benefit Indian Cricket because youngsters would get a chance to play with big names, now I see how it has slowly become a virus. I don't blame the players, though. Their job is to play cricket. It's the boards job to handle the scheduling. Let's not forget, next year we get 2 more teams in the IPL making the schedule EVEN MORE hectic. Well done! Man, I seriously cannot wait to watch a good 'ol fashioned 50 over match or, even better, a Test Match .. I'm sick of T20.

Posted by D.S.A on (May 13, 2010, 9:44 GMT)

I pity all of those who thought Murali Vijay was in form because of his scores in the IPL. You never look beyond the short-term, to define form. It's always short-term with you all. Robin Uthappa wouldn't have done any better.

Posted by Kashi0127 on (May 13, 2010, 9:24 GMT)

All of us have forgotten the same BCCI banned and influnced other boards to ban players who participated in ICL (remember Kapil Dev and Zee venture). They ended up dishing out a more glorified IPL so that board members can make merry. Why not ban all the players who participated in IPL?

Posted by Kashi0127 on (May 13, 2010, 9:19 GMT)

Actually it might not be a bad idea for Dhoni's team to take tips from India Womens cricket team - they have progressed to Semi Finals of the World T20 while the men(?) failed

Posted by 9ST9 on (May 13, 2010, 9:16 GMT)

Its hard to ignore the feeling that Indians have been kinda duped. Now I may be wrong but it just seems like that the IPL is like a screen that hides the real problems by all its glitz and glamor. Look at the number of old foreign discards featuring in the IPL warne, hayden.gilchrist and even damien martyn and a half fit brett lee.Does their presence lead to quality cricket? Warne brought in some unheard of rookies from Aus for vast amounts. Devious warne praised pathan's slog-century as the best he ever saw. these kind of stuff just sugar coat the IPL and give the Indians-cricketers and the public a false sense of greatness. New Zealand last year prepared batting beauties to please India, the world cricket boards greedy for the revenue they can earn by involving India do anything to please the BCCI. Remember all the BS buchanan put up in ipl 2.0? In short quite a lot of rupees have been shipped to Australia . The Indians are being taken for a ride.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 8:26 GMT)

T20 is a very fast game. One can hardly anticipate anything. Hence even a small mistake would cost the match.Starting from fielding except for one or two others were completely flattered by the fatigue they carried from IPL or even the worst case will be the late night events.This seriously had affected our team. Team India is not the fittest team when comes to body mass and physical strain.Aussies,Kiwis,English and others are born athlete.For that matter all the teams except India in the subcontinent including minnows Bangladesh are well tranined in terms of fielding. In a nutshell India are dominent only in one field.i.e. Batting.When that comes to the line, the term"WIN" has been, will be a long distant away......

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 8:12 GMT)

Well , India's problem is that the sound of money has by far outcried and outrun the geniune passion for the game .

And another harsh truth is that Sachin , Sehwag , Dravid and Laxman ARE Indiian batting , without them , there is no batting .

Lesser we talk of the bowling the better , how can you justify Yusuf Pathan as a regular bowler ?

Ridiculous !

Posted by vedichitesh on (May 13, 2010, 7:34 GMT)

I guess no one was bothered.... In the West Indies match when Yusuf was caught Dhoni (who was set) did not bother to cross... result new man Harbajan wasted 3 balls. This is basic..... Dhoni did not what to win i guess else the 73 runs in 10 overs with so many wickets in hand.

Dhoni is selfish.... when the going is tough he does not come in.... when India gets a good start he comes in like with Srilanka.... but when wickets fall and the going is tough like with Australia or West indies he came late......

Blame the selectors too.... Pragyan Ojha / Amit Mishra / Robin / Virat were not in

Need to rest Yuvi for 6 months atleast and if not 100% fit.... just drop them.... how can you give 100% when you are not fit

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

"Hit-and-giggle league". "greatest innings and all that". Boy is Monga indulging in some serious rabble-rousing? This article makes Match ka Mujrim look like a baby's fight!

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 6:50 GMT)

Blaming ipl for Indias loss to sri lanka is not acceptable,since most of the sri lankans cricketers in the current team also played ipl...the blame should be on indian cricketers,because the day b4 the game sri lankans were sweating out at the nets where as indian cricketers wee enjoying at the beach playing volley ball and eating let us decide who should accept the blame for the loss..

Posted by mrgupta on (May 13, 2010, 6:25 GMT)

I will not blame IPL for poor showing of India. The problem was that even though IPL was considered Domestic Tournament it should been the ideal place to pick up the Indian team. What did the selector do? Murli Vijay?? Uthappa was in much much better form, Ravendra Jadeja?? Irfan Pathan was in better form, Why Chawla? Ojha was the highest wicket taker!! Yusuf Pathan for me is only a pinch hitter, a batsmen like Sourabh Tiwari (selected as the young Talent of IPL) was ignored for what? Why IPL was conducted afterall, to churn money? is it really the Indian Domestic Tournament?

Posted by CricketRealist77 on (May 13, 2010, 6:21 GMT)

What INDIA has to understand is that IPL is JUST a business venture run for private profit- BUT INDIA'S INTERNATIONAL CRICKET PAYS FOR IT IN THE END!!!

Posted by ronnie_cric_freak on (May 13, 2010, 6:14 GMT)

As rightly pointed out.... MS DHONI seems to be really innovative when it came to captaincy during the IPL finals.. yet he didnt spend too much energy savin India from defeat against Sri Lanka...even though India would have been knocked out anyways...but still you cant take a international match for your country so lightly... And hence my point... Players including himself are blinded by Money and Razz Matazz that surrounds IPL ...clearly letting us doubt their priorities and commitment

Posted by Piyushchawla on (May 13, 2010, 5:56 GMT)

How can Piyush Chawla ..."the worlds fastest slow spinner" be in a team that wants to win t20 WC, another addition to the fiasco is " Ravindra Jadeja " how could he make into the team before Robin Uthappa, hatsoff to the selection panel who seem to have closed their eyes when others batsman and bowlers were performing well and are on song with bat and ball in IPL .

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

Yes the problem lies in the technique of the youngsters. They dont have the technique to face the short ball and they are not taking efforts to rectify it as they are tons of money through IPL. They should look upto Sachin, Rahul, Kumble as role models. For whom cricket comes first and rest just follows.

Posted by sundar1967 on (May 13, 2010, 4:37 GMT)

Robin Uthappa would not have made much difference to the team. I am confident he too would have failed in handling short pitch balls.

Posted by sundar1967 on (May 13, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

I don't know why all you are criticising Dhoni for his captaincy. In cricket especially in india, where it is religion, you are good captain as long as you win. An ordinary person who plays club cricket made captain of the indian cricket team and if he wins a tournament then all the media and the other person , who have commented here will say that he will be termed as excellent captain. Iam sure the people who have commented and criticised Dhoni for his captaincy would hailed as a super hero when own the 20-20 world cup in 2007. Be realistic guys. Better luck next time Dhoni. Cheers

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

Team India, If we need to perform at a higher international stage, we need to tackle the bouncers. The concept of playing county cricket has disappeared. We need to get more cricketers playing in quality cricket. IPL is killing the quality of cricket and cricketers. They are playing in flat tracks with fast outfields it gives them false sense of stardom. As soon as we went to slightly bouncy tracks and slower outfield we are doomed. Batsmen have no clue. Their technique comes in question. Mind you pitches in West Indies have slowed down very much from before. Sorry to say this. But as the old Tamil saying goes "A frog in the well feels it is the king there. Its first trip out it realizes. Not so much"

Posted by Shehan_S on (May 13, 2010, 3:57 GMT)

I can't understand why Indians always blame the IPL? Almost all the top players from other countries play in IPL. They too has to do all the travelling and attend to all the parties. Why does it only effect indians is beyond me. Imagine players like Dirk Nannes and Mahela who are topping the bowling and the batting charts in the World T20; they almost played all the IPL matches isn't it and they still deliver.

Posted by dsignsbala on (May 13, 2010, 2:55 GMT)

Dhoni should lead from the front and prove that he plays cricket for passion and pride first... paisa next! He should play IPL whenever he is completely free and if any major tournament comes next to IPL he should skip IPL... by doing so he will be greatest player in India... greatest ever than Sachin or Kapil!

And BCCI should be held responsible for everything because indian players are slaves under the board!

So dhoni should teach a lesson to everyone in indian cricket by not playing IPL anymore! Because that money is nothing for him so of now!

Posted by kumaaar on (May 13, 2010, 2:46 GMT)

i have seen some people are blaming the coach for the debacle... its unfair. have u seen how gowtham gambhir was running ? he didn't even ground the bat.. so lame. and for past 2 years yuvi has come down from a brilliant fielder and awesome batsmen to a lethargic fielder and a lower order batsmen *(even other lower order batsmen are better than him). i think the team selection in india goes by regional politics (vijay) and some people get themselves default selected by the virtue of their marketing value :) ( yuvi, bhaji) and for god's sake the performance of yusuf and jadeja are against the low level india domestic cricket, these two have been exposed countless times in the intl' cricket outside the country and as mentioned by many india should stop concentrating on batting talents are there a lot to many in the domestic arena and should do something in the pace department. they should find talent and get some quality training before gv them intl' debut.(so they dnt' bcom lk ishant)

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 2:46 GMT)

A true character strength analysis for Men in Blue. Have a look.

Posted by cricsavvy on (May 13, 2010, 2:42 GMT)

For years we have been doing this kind of post mortem. No one learns - ONLY TALKS. For ages, we blame it on Indian pitches. But what is the use? Any change for improvement. Never ever. We will have a home series in the same flat trracks where we will thrash the opponent and everything else will be forgotten. The story continues ...unfortunately.

Posted by Maui3 on (May 13, 2010, 2:15 GMT)

Sidharth, I think you are way too harsh. C'mon, India is #1 in test cricket, was #1 in T20 as well as ODI (briefly) in the last two years. How many team really has done better in the last 10 years? Just Australia and RSA has come close. Yes, it is dissappointing to not see next crop of player playing on bowler friendly pitches like Sehwags, Tendulkars, Dravids and Laxman. But, part of the reason is really the success of these four. Sure, Gambhir, Dhoni and Yuvraj (in particular) were disappointing, as they have faced good bowling on fast pitches before. The rest have gotten practically no experience with prolonged competitive cricket. It's fashionable to blame BCCI, every time India falters. I dont see BCCI given credit when India does perform. Dont think that is fair. I cant beleive I am defending BCCI :-). Also, with the amount of cricket Indians play, is it even humanly possible to keep intensity for more than a few matches/tournaments?

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 1:56 GMT)

Indian XI has a severe attitude problem. Gambhir, Yuvraj et al have played without the commitment that is required of them. They ran poor, and didn't concentrate enough. It is time the current team is fired and a new band of mavericks are formed like in 2007. Either that or Sachin, Dravid, Kumble are brought back. They might not be as "great" hitters as Yusuf/ Rohit but they never lacked the commitment to play for India. They can't do worse than losing all 6 super 8 games the past 12 months.

Posted by sreevas on (May 13, 2010, 1:36 GMT)

Indian performance was certainly below par.But Dhoni does hav a point when he talks abt the IPL parties and the large amount of travelling involved.The best thing that could have been done to perhaps end the IPL earlier. The lack of form of key players like Yuvraj and Zaheer was also a major contributing factor to the Indian loss.

Posted by CricketRealist77 on (May 13, 2010, 1:05 GMT)

Excellent article-at least someone has the guts to tell the truth to India but from past experience i don't think the Indian Authorities (and most fans) are listening. As an Australian i personally don't mind them not listening cause i see the potential for Indian cricket to dominate the world if they had the right brainstrust in the right places but luckily for Australian cricket i doubt that will EVER happen. For me the only people with WORLD CLASS cricket brains that can give the Indian players the right attitude, technique and confidence for all world conditions is Ravi Shastri, Sourav Ganguly and Sachin Tendulkar. Until that happens i never see India as a threat except in India.

Posted by chinmaypatil on (May 13, 2010, 0:56 GMT)

It was an embarrassing performance by Team India. Enough excuses have been made by the coach and the captain about inability of Indian batsmen to play bouncing balls. But, neither of them seem to do anything about it. I really think either Kirsten or Dhoni should be sacked from their roles. Someone must be held accountable here. It is the 3rd time in a row that Team India has failed to reach the semis of an ICC event. This is of course if BCCI cares about these tournaments :). One other point I want to make is Team India had a gap of 5 days between the SA game and the first Super 8 game. It was no surprise that opposition would bowl short considering the history and also the pitch had natural bounce. But, it didn't seem like the Indian batsmen had any plan to play short balls. Most of them had no clue. I am not suggesting you can learn how to play short balls in 5 days...but I at least expected them to have a plan.

Posted by paku11 on (May 13, 2010, 0:55 GMT)

One thing people keep forgetting is that the BCCI is run by the politicians and adminstrators, and by that you can forgive them to be ignorant about fatigue management, skill development, utilisation of all things available to improve the performances of thier talented players. Call me an idiot but i can assure you that if you ask them the question abt fatigue impacting the performance, they will come back with a reply; todays players are professionals. they get paid to play and perform. try this out.

Posted by rtom on (May 13, 2010, 0:49 GMT)

Read Mr. Dhoni. This author says " Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman are too established and too good to let a hit-and-giggle league effect their techniques or work ethic. And it's because of them, not the IPL stars, that India are No. 1 in Tests." !! I guess now u understand what cricket means !!

Posted by ksss on (May 13, 2010, 0:44 GMT)

India always learn bad from western world. NFL NHL players are heroes in their own country. They follow only local games with big gala fun cheer leaders fancy advertisements party. They dont care about olympics or world cup. Same attitude is being portrayed in india. Audience have to boycott watching IPL if team doesnt world cup. Until then Team INDIA will be loser and Team IPL a winner always. Very soon lot of people will lose interest in watching cricket and this will become like hockey !!

Posted by ksss on (May 13, 2010, 0:29 GMT)

Easy fix and will work. (1) Any player playing IPL, is representing following international tour for india then, withhold the payment . If india enters atleast semi finals release 50% of payment. If india enters finals release 75% of payment. If wins the final release 100% payment. If india fails to enter semifinals release only 25% as final payment (2) Move IPL only after any international major tour and give a gap of 1 month before playing major tour (3) If there a 40 locations where IPL is paid make 20 of them bouncy pitches matching australian PERTH pitch standards

Team INDIA needs to be given preference and IPL should be made secondary

Otherwise Team IPL will shine all over the world and Team INDIA will be ranked 10th by ICC. Brace for that.

There is no point in bashing who is best , which captain is best, which team member is best.

Posted by rambadi on (May 13, 2010, 0:06 GMT)

One of the main problems that continue to persist with Indian Cricket is that everybody, fans included, put the players above the team. The craze about the players gets so bad to the point that riots erupt when their actions are questioned and fans build temples for these guys as though they are Gods. Ricky Ponting of Australia, on the other hand, loses one Ashes series and he comes under heavy scrutiny under the Australian cricket board. Perhaps that is another extreme, but I'll rather take that than what we have in Indian Cricket.

England, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and Pakistan all put the team above the players. To them, the team is important. Not any one individual player. It has never been that way with India, and sadly the attitude does not seem to be changing. And unless it does happen, India is not winning another World Cup or any major event, unless by terrible fluke. We need to be tough on players when we have to. Kick out the under-performers and bring in the best.

Posted by CricketkaFunda on (May 13, 2010, 0:00 GMT)

Where is Harsha Bhogle now? He almost took responsibility to popularize IPL through his columns. There were so much talk about young players rubbing shoulders with international ones and bla bla just to promote IPL. This kind of talent you get out of circus named IPL.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 23:45 GMT)

I just love it when India struggles !

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 23:35 GMT)

Love the article, I have been saying since the start of the IPL that no good could come of it. And I couldn't be happier that India are out. That's what you get for chasing money over the game. T20 is fun and good for young kids to get involved but Test cricket is where it is at. If any country wants to be the best for more than a blink of an eye, you have to look at what Australia has done over the last 20 yrs. Looks like they will hold the T20 cup as well now.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 23:19 GMT)

This is not true that IPL effected players and they are tired. If you look at the names, there are so many players who played IPL and performing better than others. For example, Nannes, Watson, Warner, Pieterson, Jayawardhne, Sangakkara, Malinga and some others names. Sri Lanka found jayawardhene as opner in IPL. If you think, Pakistan qualified for semi final bcoz they did not play IPL. Actually Pakistan did not qualfy on their own or with their performance, they were just lucky like last year after defeating just one team. Thanx...

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 23:17 GMT)

What is India going to do when Laxman, Tendulkar and Dravid retire in the next couple of years? Their performance is a dress rehearsal of the things to come once these greats retire. The less said about the bowling the better.

Posted by shakir23 on (May 12, 2010, 23:03 GMT)

i think the main reason for india's bad performance was bad batting order and team selection. opening with guys like gambhir and dinesh is just not on. they arent big hitters. u gotta give ur best batsmen the best oppurtinites to score. people like yuvraj , rohit and yusuf had very few balls to play with in most of the matches so in myopinon that was big mistake.gambhir and dinesh arent suited for t20 cricket , fact.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 22:53 GMT)

what we have not seen as well, is the effect the ipl and t20 is going to have on our test and one day sides. Once dravid, laxman, tendulkar retire we r doomed. We got a bunch of players who have zero techniques, zero ability to apply themselves and the only way they know how to build an innings is to slog their way to one....if it comes of gr8 otherwise they could care less. indian cricket is at dangerous cross roads. If you look at the Australian cricket team...they base their cricket on the longer formats and then adapt it a bit for the shorter formats.... with india its going the other way and as soon as the legends retire...we are doomed!

Posted by JITH_SREE on (May 12, 2010, 22:33 GMT)

Indian board being the richest should spend money on developing an Indoor stadium where you can simulate various conditions and the team should train there before leaving for international tours. With the money that BCCI has, it is doeable. They do that in US where a soprting arena can be changed from Basketball, to ICE hockey. Similarly they can easily (with the flip of a button) bring out pitches (made from soil from various cricketing countries) and simulate the wind and temperature conditions. This will help Indian cricketers get climatized and play on a track that will be similar to the track that they will face in a different country.

It is not too much to ask for from BCCI and can help develop batsmen to handle rising, turning or swinging balls.

Posted by CricIsCrazy on (May 12, 2010, 22:18 GMT)

Thanks for going and dont come back again!

Posted by kickapakibutt on (May 12, 2010, 22:18 GMT)

It is indeed a sad but deserved result for team India. I agree with the context of this article. However, I would like to point BCCI's role in this debacle too. Why was Murali Vijay in the team? He was a disaster against South Africa. Just because he played well on flat pitches during IPL, will not equate into international success. What about Jadeja? Why would Dhoni let him play after the beating he took against Australia? Being tired after IPL parties is no excuse for this failure. There is a fine line between making money to support yourself and being greedy. I think the Indian players crossed that line and became greedy.

Posted by Croc_on_mara on (May 12, 2010, 21:49 GMT)

To all disgruntled Indian fans: Come on guys ... We are not pakistanis to indulge in such cheap criticisms. To Pak fans: LOL...Since when did your batsman become good players of pace?!?! I distinctly remember Ryan Harris running through your lineups on shirt fronts down-under not too long ago. Chris Martin of all people made you dance in NZ didn't he?? Not one of your batsman has the technique, temperament, skill or courage to play pace. Please remind yourself that your team sneaked in outta pure luck. Eng, Aus,NZ and even Zim took turns to hammer you and still you are in semis. Anyways, you will receive appropriate attitude correction when the aussies cane you for good measure in the semis. Lets see how many will connect, let alone score off Tait's blitzers..

Posted by nikhildevdesai on (May 12, 2010, 21:46 GMT)

I have said it before, IPL IS THE REAL CULPRIT. Can someone tell me if we have won a single tournament after IPL starter 3 years ago. No. The players have five days rest this time and three days rest in last year world 20/20. In these days, they have to travel half way around the world, play no warm ups, and have their heads up in the sky. World 20/20 is not the same as IPL. Teams consist of best of the best from their country. I will not be surprised if our performance in next year world cup and 20/20 will be same. We didn't deserve to be in semi-final. Indian players are too tired from IPL and injuries happen after IPL. End the IPL and maybe players will concentrate more on international game that is played for their country rather than IPL which they play for themselves.

Posted by Amit_Cric_Crazy on (May 12, 2010, 21:24 GMT)

BCCI should look at rescheduling IPL with T20 world cup, players dont get enough rest, that is true, also they should not pick up players on their reputation alone like yuvraj, nehra etc, they are wasting time. Gambhir should also be given a hiding the way he was running between the wickets, if BCCI doesnt act tough this time, we will see the same result again next year, mark my words...cheers !

Posted by PratapP on (May 12, 2010, 21:13 GMT)

I feel ashamed for supporting a letharigic India. Everyone played or tried to play well in the IPL but now they lack the game spirit. This would conclude that they are playing for the money and not for the country. The comments Dhoni made makes everyone feel that they are not matured enough to play in an international game. He doesnt qualify to be a captian. CRICKET, a game of spirit transformed to a game of MONEY.

Posted by syed.hassan on (May 12, 2010, 20:58 GMT)

Good bye India !!!!!!! Thanks for coming !!!!! Zindabad Pakistan !!!!!!!!

Posted by barwala_vasi on (May 12, 2010, 20:17 GMT)

India will never be a great team until we improve our first class cricket structure. the facilities provided to the state teams should be on par with the International team. In this regard IPL has been a boon for players from small states in providing them the stage to showcase their talent. We lack a good scouting system. It just happens that cricket is a religion in our country and it continues to throw players of exceptional ability. I cannot emphasize more on this, Australia is a prime example.Finally I have had enough of this 20-20 crap.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 20:13 GMT)

Almost a FACTUAL article...very rightly said...

Posted by RohanChoukkar on (May 12, 2010, 20:12 GMT)

Long live Gideon Haigh. This is an Indian speaking. All you ultra-nationalist creatures - shove your IPL and your India and your Hinduism and India Shining and everything else up your posteriors.

Posted by kunal_83 on (May 12, 2010, 19:58 GMT)

All players are facing the hectic schedule of IPL.....Shane Watson, David Hussey,Paul Colingwood, KP, Mike Hussey have all been following the busy shedule of IPL, but when it comes to national colours, these people have delivered the goods....It's high time now that the selection committee seriously thinks about including in form players like amit mishra, robin utthapa, pragyan ojha, or even naman ojha instead of people who have been showcasing the brands more than showing the true clours....Technical vulnerabilities when it comes to playing short pitch stuff has to be encountered in a proficient manner. Curators back here in India have to seriously think about bouncy tracks conducive to pace bowling rather than sluggish tracks for taming the opposition by spin.....we might lose a couple of series or even more to the oppositions but at least the players would cope better than struggling in crunch tournaments, where the expectation is so high

Posted by JPoncricket on (May 12, 2010, 19:43 GMT)

What is the point of blaming the players? They are more or less the best 11 that were found in India.. Why arnt BCCI officers targetted? Why dont some angry fans stone them or ransack their offices? We have needed bouncy pitches in India since a decade. at least a few, where we can test the technique of our players in domestic competitions.. What has been done about this? Where is the obscene money that BCCI makes going? Where is the training infrastructure in the country? The BCCI says it is an autonomous institution not anwerable to anybody. Well, then do not have the team tshirts read "India"..write "BCCI" from now onwards.

Posted by RaviHacks on (May 12, 2010, 19:18 GMT)

I think what is really flawed is the format of the tournaments like this. All the way upto 2003, there were atleast 5 matches in the preliminary rounds before deciding who advances. Suddenly in 2007 the super 8 format was introduced and if you lose one match in the first round, you could be eliminated. This is totally lame and does not reward consistency. In addition the 2nd round is also single match round. Granted india lost all 3 matches in round 2, but when you could have a team (WI ) that would have won 5 out of 6 matches and still not make semis you'd have to think. india really were not that far from semis just about 20 runs. IF you really believe that india is such a bad team, that they have been exposed, stripped, and what ever other adjective you choose to use, they should not be this close to making it to semis. Pakistan was in the same boat as india, but barely squeaked through. The really problem is the format, which does not promote consistent good performance.

Posted by sachsaha on (May 12, 2010, 19:15 GMT)

the most baffling thing was to see a Yuvraj in the team. His talents has no bounds, but kindly take a look at him. How can a cricketer with yuvraj's fitnness(read overweight) can be included in the team. He had a horrible IPL for various reasons 1. blame it on the ego fight-with sangakarra. 2. lack of fitness. 3.arrogance that he is good enough to play. Its sad to see the the complacency virus is deep rooted in India. Without doubt IPL has been draining but responsiobility not only lies with the BCCI but also on individual players. Look at Australia-had not so good T20 experience but as a team they make sure they are not getting emabrassed by other teams. They are not always good but they make sure amends are done in the following tournaments unlike India. God save the rankings and Indian ego's.

Posted by DrDeepakSitaramHiwale on (May 12, 2010, 19:12 GMT)

I think Mr crikbuff is right.. players should display national pride. In fact, I would put up an ad in the newspaper. Only players who have national pride will be selected,the catch being, you won't be paid anything. Sure, thousand will turn up. But then, when you get home, you will tell your kids and wife, so what if we don't have anything to eat, we have national pride. And, when you get old and are lying in a hospital suffering from some terminal disease, and the doctor asks you to pay up, you ask him, if national pride would do. People should realise that the Board is the real culprit. People who criticise players this way, have no right to celebrate when the Indian team does well. I do not blame these people; they have no ability to think on their own. It is the scribes who are to blame. But one has to be understanding that they write stuff to make money. And when it is the cricketers turn to make money, we should indeed have a problem!

Posted by sadu123 on (May 12, 2010, 19:05 GMT)

I'm an Indian and I was there in Barbados to watch India Aus match. Folks, that match was lost before it was even started! Indians had no confidence in them and body langauge was so pathatic -- you won't see players body langauage on TV as camera just follows bowler and the fielder. On the other hand, Aussies aggresssive act was really praise worthy. You could see that they are there to kill it... it meant business to them. .. and which showed in the end result of the 2nd round. No doubt pitch aided their style of bowling and so to NZ or SA but other two could not do much. No doubt class is permanent and form is temp.. but I feel there is no time in T20 to recover form (ex Yuvraj, Gambhir..) instead go with players in form who performed in IPL like P. Ojha, Uthappa, S. Thiwary, Ashwin and Kohli. We cannot afford to hide anymore from short pitch bowling on apacy pitch. BCCI please listen to Kapil Dev and plan for such pitches to develop good batsmen and world class pace bowlers.

Posted by kunal_83 on (May 12, 2010, 18:56 GMT)

india showed lack of skill in countering the short ball yet again....this has abolutely nothing to do with motivation....a captain like dhoni would always be a great motivator....but India lacks the same old skill when it comes to playing genuine quick bowling....BCCI still has a long way to go as far as the pitches are concerned...apart from Mohali there are no pitches which are lively, or are condusive to fast bowling.....IPL can bring in rich dividends in the cash boxes of BCCI but BCCI has to realize that national interest should be given greater importance than mere club cricket....

Posted by cricstock on (May 12, 2010, 18:46 GMT)

As long as Dhoni and Kris Srikant give preference to their CSK buddies Suresh Raina, Murali Vijay and Ravindra Jadeja (again we have better cricketers than this guy) over people like Rohit Sharma (poor guy, Dhoni rarely gives me an opportunity and even if he does, keeps changing his batting order as was done on several occasions), Robin Uttappa, Virat Kohli we have to live with such dissapointments.

God help us

Posted by karan8300 on (May 12, 2010, 18:36 GMT)

May be the funeral started. Kris (The Mad) and his company never thought the basic of a player to play in international matches. Yuvi, Gambhir are out of form in IPL-3. Yousuf Pathan is also a Local player. Uththapa, Kamran Khan, Irfan Pathan, Virat Kohli are not included in squad, thats a big tragedy. I think all the SELECTORS should RESIGN from their POSTS as they have nothing to give in INDIAN cricket. Gavaskar, Kapil Dev and Saurav Ganguly should be named as SELECTORS as they can serve better for Indian Cricket.

Posted by rajagopal_sri on (May 12, 2010, 18:30 GMT)

Raja: Gr8 news billion's have been fooled by 5 genius gauti,yuvi,zak,pathan,r.jadeja... but the most imp thing is they 1st fooled their own team mates and their gr8 cap MS..And now he stands like a joker in front of the media defending his decisions..five points that come to my mind are . 1. billion + population dont have a good quality fast bowler to bowl at least 145+ 2. short pitch balls (its not that the batsman failed but the bowlers also dint use it at all) 3.Running short of options and as usual not doing any homeworks against the opponents 4.Expecting the part timers to perform compulsorily,i think our think tank was given rest during the t20's 5.Absense of match fitness, brilliant fielding which was there in 2007 t20 was completely missing

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 18:29 GMT)

since few years BCCI is ruling money only not the indian cricket.i think bcci should reduce the no. of IPL need of home and away matches.From next year there should be only 9 games per team.4 home game and 4 away game with 1 neautral it reduce the toll on players.INDIA really miss the presence of SACHIN FACTOR in the icc worldt20

Posted by JonB007 on (May 12, 2010, 18:25 GMT)

lets stop blaming and start with basics to tackle the problem.a) in the number of years india has played international cricket how many genuine FAST bowlers india has produced. In order to produce genuine fast bowlers the pitches have to be made so its both suitable to spin & fast bowling. b) when we produce genuine fast bowlers out batsmen will be accustomed to all typer of fast bowling(short ball) as timing plays an important part in players development which also develops quick instinct. c)Another major lack is FIELDING. this comes from players fitness and practice. d)Selection : It dosen't matter how good a player is , if he's not in form the best and fastest way to bring back form & confidence is to lower them to local matches, because, if they are off form & playing international cricket that lack of form will continue plus will lead to lack of confidence and when a player trys very hard when not in form this could lead to injuries.

Posted by Arijit_in_TO on (May 12, 2010, 18:03 GMT)

The IPL version of Team India can't bat, can't bowl and can't field. Other than that, they are pretty good and deserve their overinflated salaries to match their ridiculous egos. Who are the selectors going to pick for real cricket (Test matches) when SRT, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag retire? Good luck to the Final Four teams; they deserve to be there.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:48 GMT)

Did Sidharth Monga's ESPN bosses goad him on to write this tripe masquerading as journalism? Let's face it, ESPN is the biggest loser in an event where India exits early thanks to them bidding a outrageously high amount on ICC events ( including the Marquee events like ODI WC) relying on Indian advertisers ability to bankroll them in future. Sadly they backed the wrong horse. T20 in any form is hit and giggle cricket and there should be no need for faked indignation shown in this article !

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:48 GMT)

IPL is becoming more like an EPL, where the english soccer clubs perform well, but at international scene, England is nowhere to be seen. India, unfortunatley is moving towards that direction, unless something can be done about it. Recently, I read an interview of Basit Ali, who was asked, who out of Windies fearsome pace attack was the easiest for him, the answer was "Curtly Ambrose" 11. It was not just statement, Basit had killed Ambrose and co in the fixtures that Pak an Windies played in. Basit said that Great Miandad, made him play short balls from 8 yards on a cement wicket in West Indies, and guess who was bowling at him in practice, The Two Ws, All mIandad told Basit was to face these balls with a bat in front of rib-cage, and Basit was wearing no helmets no other prtoective gear. He claims that the Windies pace bowlers looks lame in the actual match after such practice. If India has problems with short balls, then make them practice like this,

Posted by Venkat-Ric on (May 12, 2010, 17:46 GMT)

Indian cricket team seems like they are not taking international matches so seriously, as they are getting lot of money from IPL and concentrating on it to "sold" for higher value. Why, we as true Indian fans fight for the "BAN" of IPL and save our pride in International matches.

Start now, and do what we can do to ban IPL auctions and tounement. We as Indian fans can do this to save our pride, when Indian team and BCCI always thinks about the "money".

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:34 GMT)

All i can say is Indian Cricket team is all about money and not for the COUNTRY ! So much for patriotism !

Posted by Neo2K on (May 12, 2010, 17:28 GMT)

BCCI need to take this very seriously, this may bring downfall to Indian Cricket. I am sure in most player's mind who are currently contracted with BCCI are looking forward to more Lucrative tournaments like IPL where they can make fortune. Country's pride is their secondary priority now. At the end of the last couple Games I was surprise to see Dhoni's expression it was atrocious as nothing has happened, no worries, no disappointments and no motivations. Dhoni needs to go…Selections was poor, where are the fast Bowlers, can't just rely on batsman to win games all the time. Where the heck was Zaheer in the last game? Why Ishant wasn't playing in the tournament? India needs to produce more match winning fast Bowlers they have more than enough talent in Batting.

Posted by Jinsr65 on (May 12, 2010, 17:20 GMT)

All credit for India's early exit should go to Dhoni and the selectors. Indians taking just 37 runs of 30 balls and reaching a score of 163 when they could have easily made near about 180 which would have definitely added the pressure on to the lankans.In the first two super eight games when they had a chance to bat first , when everytime Dhoni points that batting is Indians strength they opted for bowling .The worst case is that we do not see dhoni disaapointed or does not even show any remorse for the exit of India from the Super Eights without even winning a single match.

The selectors also needs a word of appreciation for keeping a player like Robin Uthappa out when he had a reputation of being a big hitter and had proved himself in the 2007 t20 worldcup.

Posted by Stavroulla on (May 12, 2010, 17:19 GMT)

Guys, it is very simple but you are making it complicated. India and Pakistan have problems on bouncy wickets for years and it will not change until we have similar wickets in our countries. Nothing else is wrong.

Posted by demon_bowler on (May 12, 2010, 17:15 GMT)

To sum up, an overrated team with a massive sense of entitlement believes its own PR, then gets bitten in the backside by reality.

Posted by asadkum on (May 12, 2010, 17:14 GMT)

Mohammad Asad from USA...........

Yeah, I do agree with you Mr.S. Monga........Thanks for Coming, India. Nice article...........Thanks..

Mohammad Asad.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:10 GMT)

I've seen the point being raised that ipl is not to be blamed since foreign players are also playing it and performing well for their repsective countries at the same time..the thing to understand here is that in the case of foreign countries like srilanka etc, only their 10-12 best men will get the chance to play in the ipl so this is a motivating factor for other players in their country to perform well so that they can make it to the riches of the ipl. Its a different case when it comes to indian players since all of them would get the riches no matter if they perform well for india or not get selected for india..hence, it is a demotivating factor for indian players when it comes to performing for india!! A matter bcci should look into with great concern

Posted by adigok5 on (May 12, 2010, 17:09 GMT)

Great article to highlight indias failure in the world cup. I agree to the fact that the Indians were lethargic in the field and didnt really find solutions to their problems. But hasnt this been India's problem from the start? India crashed out of the 2007 world cup in the first round in the same region with a batting line up of Ganguly, Sehwag, Uthappa, Sachin and Dravid. I dont blame the Indian team but the captain himself for this situation. He has proven that he cant choose the best XI and tries nothing different when it comes to batting order or bowling changes. So far, I would give credit to Gary Kirsten for the successful strategies and the grooming of talent and not Mr. Cool Guy Dhoni. Even his batting has become more of a worry for India as he doesn't accelerate at the right time or not at all. My advice would be to CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE, DHONI!

Posted by IPL_shambles on (May 12, 2010, 17:07 GMT)

India = knocked out (again!) Pakistan = semi-final (again!)

It gives more pleasure to see India being knocket out of the World Twenty20 than Pakistan winning it the last year. Frankly, it was a slap on everyone's face who did not take players from Pakistan to the IPL.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:06 GMT)

Okay.. so captain Dhobi screwed up. The fact that there aren't too many in the side who can handle short deliveries well is sinking in. I think next time we will see an improvement from this side. Like Axl Rose once famously said "All we need is just a little Patience"

Posted by srijan_sengupta on (May 12, 2010, 17:01 GMT)

exactly my thoughts Mr Monga... i think BCCI should not arrange foreign tours any more.. come'n, our cricketers have much bigger and deeper issues to handle than boring camps learning to play the short stuff on zippy tracks.. let's get 30 teams for the IPL and have an year-round tournament.. we have enough financial muscle now to arrange that..

Posted by Pesu on (May 12, 2010, 16:57 GMT)

What a SHAME for India... Sad to be in Indian. Money, Fame and personal egos plays against games. No body cares about the Country or the Team. As a coach Chappell helped us to find lot of young players but we sacked him because of the pressure given by senior players. We always do like that because we care about money and personal mentality. We always fail to think. This time selection is not bad except Yuvaraj and other few bowlers but the Captain is not capable of leading them. TIME to find a New CAPTAIN.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 16:54 GMT)

You hit the Bulls eye with this " Only a board as deafened by the sound of money as India's could have not listened to the man." Personally i dont like the indian players being targetted, esp. by Indians who are well aware of the red tape and sycophant-ism in our country ... A CRICKET board headed by a corrupt politician ... thoroughly corrupt at that ... You boast of big names yet pathetic facilities .. you say no flat pitches, no grassy out fields ... then why don't we hold BCCI accountable for once .... Please people .. and the revered ex cricketers of this country ... it's easy to crucify the players ... they are the face ... poor guys ... they may have vested interests .. but then who does not ... but doesnt the problem lie elsewhere as well ???

Posted by dravidrules on (May 12, 2010, 16:52 GMT)

dhoni truly was at his tactical worst... to prove my point... he left out R Vinay Kumar on the track against WIndies and opted to play him on the slower track against SL... has something gotten into his head?? has he gone insane? or is it just the fact that he is treated as a demi-god that is showing signs??

Posted by abysport on (May 12, 2010, 16:51 GMT)

excellent article, Sidharth sir. you have truly exposed the flaws of Indian cricket int he shortest version of cricket.

Posted by RatulB on (May 12, 2010, 16:49 GMT)

" Unlike Dhoni with his genius move in the IPL final, not many in the batting line-up can be said to have worked endlessly in the nets"..........

I hardly think that "genius move" was Dhoni's. I see the devious mind of Stephen Fleming, the Chennai SuperKings coach behind it. MSD is not a great tactician or strategist. He is good at keeping a " cool " face and of course there is his famous luck, though its failed him miserably this time.

Posted by Tawloo on (May 12, 2010, 16:27 GMT)

This is a paradigm shift in cricket.

Domestic league treated with higher priority than national teams for players and fans. Deep worry for non-indian cricket boards!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 16:20 GMT)

Another disappointing performance for their fans. although i'm a Pakistani but i can say without any doubt that they never looked liked india in frist edition of t20 world cup. i agree with 'swapnilp' he is definitly right. they do need good bowlers. i hardly remmeber any good indian bowler with good pace

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 16:09 GMT)

First of all, an excellent article sir:) I come from Pakistan but to be honest last night i wanted india to make it to the semi's because i feel that the indian team have the potential to do it and with pakistan already there in the semi finals i felt it could give the t20 worldcup exactly what every icc event begs for, a Pakistan vs India final. But it was very dissapointing and mr. monga have got it spot on! I guess ipl is starting to show its real colours now and its a matter which bcci needs to look into urgently. Tbh, when i see players like yuvraj singh, of whom's batting I and im sure many of my pakistani fellows were big fans of, it gives me a feel of arrogance, proudness and putting your nation only 2nd best to yourself!! It's a virus that i feel have affected yuvraj and this virus is caused by the is very concerning for india and they should look upon this matter with great concern before this virus gets to many other young indian 'newly rich' players

Posted by Kumar77 on (May 12, 2010, 16:03 GMT)

To all stakeholders of Indian cricket: 1. Do not over glorify when we win(like first WC T20) and IPL achievements, and over slam when we lose(like WC 2007 and two WC T20s). Keep emotions in check, and put things in perspective. 2. Dhoni is still one of the best captains and players around. Indian cricketers(regardless of test no.1 status, or WC fallout) are still pretty good, and almost world class. 3. Just a few improvements needed and then we can say "All is well." 4. For God's sake, build pitches in India with pace and bounce. Bowlers will emerge given the support. MRF "Pace" foundation, can be used to live up to its name, instead of the stupid blimp in the air. 5. The survival thoery of "We'll bully others on our slow and flat tracks, while they bully us on thier pace tracks" should be buried forever. Lets get all skills required to be world class. 6. I, like many, followed the cup, to feel the embarassment and disappointment. The powers that be should fix the root cause NOW.

Posted by Harsha_Reddy on (May 12, 2010, 15:58 GMT)

Truth is money talks...IPL has more money more fun ..its the same as every engineer/sometimes doctors want to be s/w engineers coz of quick money .WHy blame our cricketers. With so much cricket we will have this moments once in a year when we do badly but ALL IS WELL coz we will beat zimbabwe or someone else. I AM PREPARING MYSELF FOR NEXT YEAR WOLRD CUP....same bunch of guys except (sachin) will be exposed for same issues.

Posted by RajV2823 on (May 12, 2010, 15:57 GMT)


has anyone wondered how the teams with the least number of IPL participants, are in the Semi Finals i.e Australia, England and pakistan, Srilanka had 4 in their last match. Whatever our guys say, It has been a major factor, Tiredness, not even one warm up match in the pitch that we played 2 impt games. What sort of prep is this for a major tournament??!?!?!and here we thought IPL was supposed to make our players better? And if IPL is to identify future talent pools, Why would you not take the highest wicket takers(ojha and mishra), the best under 21 player of the tournament(tiwary), The best opening spinner on view(ashwin). If dhoni thinks spin was the way to go, why dint he insist on having ashwin,ojha and mishra. If jadeja and yusuf are allrounders, then I'm the KING OF ENGLAND!!!!!!!! Guy i reckon eeryne in India just needs to ignore yuvraj singh and his brands, boycott them, bring their market value down. only then these peoplewill start playing for pride rather than £££££s.

Posted by princeofnyc on (May 12, 2010, 15:47 GMT)

The BCCI over the last few years has been interested in only making money and cares less and less about cricket. They forget that India's strengths in international cricket including their success in Test cricket has provided for a succesful IPL. What does the BCCI do in return? They hardly have space in the calendar for Tests, and when they do, they do it either in small towns, or in traditional test venues in the middle of the week and say "see, nobody comes to see Test cricket". It is on the international Test and to some extent ODIs where proper technique to face international bowlers are developed, not in the cheerleader-infested grounds of the IPL. The BCCI has also encouraged the development of dust bowls as pitches, where second-rate bats are allowed to rule, resulting in borderline players elevating to IPL heroes. Instead of blaming Dhoni or the senior players from staying away from the T20 WC, if fingers have to be pointed, it has to be at the BCCI and its hencmen.

Posted by svrfremont on (May 12, 2010, 15:47 GMT)

Dont blame IPL. Players from all countries played IPL and came together and the teams did not do bad. So enough of that IPL jaded thing. In reality did you think that this team had the snuff to make it? I dont think so. It showed in the way that Dhoni presented himself. He won the toss and bowled most of the time. What's up that? Look at the resources he had. Yuvraj and Raina for batsman and Vinay Kumar, Nehra and Zaheer for bowling. What happened to Uthappa, Tiwary and Dhawan? Why was Murali chosen? The teams had wimps in there.

Compare Watson/Warner for batting and Tait/Nannes for bowling. Just agressive. Our best looked like wimps. Raina looked like a wimp against Aus. and WI. What gives? So this result is not surprising. And I'll tell you what guys: They ain't going to win another World CUP T20 or ODI. It is just expectations. I have seen this for about 40 yrs. now; just high expectations after one instance of coming together in 1983 and 2007. That's it.

Posted by TwitterJitter on (May 12, 2010, 15:44 GMT)

For all those blaming IPL, if the WTC 20 was held before IPL do you think the results would have been any better? If you do I have an island to sell to you. Indian team is an average T20 team where there are a few good players, a whole bunch of average players. There is no concept of excellence. Focus on excellence has to come from the board and they have to institutionalize it with centers for excellence where they create a pool of very good batsmen for different formats, good bowlers for different conditions, and most of all good fielders for all conditions. Instead we have players who develop on their natural talent alone and then the team depends on them to perform all the time in all conditions without adequately equipping/training them for it. How many of them were exposed to bouncy tracks and how many times? I would say they only get exposed to them in ICC tournaments and then they flop. What about fielding?Why are Nehra, Gambhir, and Mishra in the team with their poor fielding?

Posted by TruthPrevails on (May 12, 2010, 15:42 GMT)

Thankfully level headed and objective analysis of what went wrong. The tone of rebuking is just right and to balance it out it highlights what's right with the team i.e. they are World's top Test team because of SRT, RD, VVS and VS.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:40 GMT)

For more than a decade three people have carried the bulk of Indias defense against pace & bounce - Dravid (arguably the worlds best player of bounce), Sachin & Laxman (Competent against bounce & soft hands). Is it any surprise that a team that lack these 3 have struggled - No! It was expected. The first T20 WC was a fluke - international bowlers were under the impression that India is still rock solid against bounce, little did they know that the the big 3 (& 4) always had shielded the others against bounce & genuine pace. Well we cant turn the clock back now... Way forward - beg Sachin to come back and play T20s, (Laxman doesn't look like getting fit for IPL let alone WC & Dravid had said, on air, that the T20 is a bit too much for 'old' players like him). Get a decent player of the short ball into the team and for Gods sake drop that lunk of meat that goes by the name of Yuvraj...

Posted by suni550 on (May 12, 2010, 15:35 GMT)

Sunil: these r the few points I observed in this T20 WC which causes exit from T20. 1. no good contribution from Openers 2. Bowling attack is not good. 3. My question is why Dhoni choose fielding after winning the toss against AUS and WI.. when he/we are observing most of teams won after batting first, but why he chose field firt i never understand this. Gayle mentioned if u score 160+ then chasing team will struggle, why Dhoni is not observed these things? 4. Poooooooooor fielding especially against AUS. 5 no good ocntribution from big hitters like Yousuf I believe his tech is not upto international level. 5. No players is technically solid against pace and bouncers

Posted by bull_run on (May 12, 2010, 15:34 GMT)

had this been the ipl the commentators would have said that india were knocked out by a 'dlf maximum 6'

Posted by kkk47 on (May 12, 2010, 15:33 GMT)

Thankfully World Cup (50 Overs) is before the IPL and more importantly in the sub-continent. So the bouncers will not be that effective. And the players will not get exhausted. But Dhoni & Kirsten have to sort out the team. Dhoni is still the best captain around. He can't do a lot if his team does not perform. Robin Uttappa should have been in place of Yuvraj. Yuvraj is very good but his form has deserted him. He should be playing domestic cricket. India needs him in form for the WC. Jadeja might be talented but does not have a proper head on his shoulders. Being run-out in this WC T20 and when Sachin made 175 in a loosing cause & his Bowling!Sehwag importance is magnified with the debacle of two WC T20. Even though he scores 20-30's, he does it quick time and creats momentum forthe team. These are just a few problems. What I can't understand is how did India loose after being 89/1 after 10 overs. And a mere 73 runs in the last 10? They should have atleast made 180+ if not 200.

Posted by rayy44 on (May 12, 2010, 15:30 GMT)

Drooping Shoulers..Lead Feet.. Just going thru the motions..Cut a Sorry Figure. Shame on u Cricketers.

Posted by Born_Smart on (May 12, 2010, 15:23 GMT)

" Your franchise pays so much money for you, you should at least make the semi-finals. After that you can say it is a lottery." MS Dhoni,for CSK during IPL

"At the end of the day we are on the losing side, nothing much can be done about it because this is the best 15 [players] you can get in India when it comes to T20. At the end of the day if you are outplayed there is nothing much you can do about it." MS Dhoni for India during WC

What a attitude!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:07 GMT)

You cant rely on Old guns as Sachin, Dravid and Laxman, to come and rescue India everytime. The new players should get their techniques in place. IPL IS infact a damaging factor to the new comers, so it has been from the day one. You might benifit financially from it, but as a player you´re risking too much, your physique and your technique, by adopting strange, unorthodox cricket, which might help you on low sub - continental tracks, but not on the bouncy ones. See you next time around Team India

Posted by Messyinamess on (May 12, 2010, 15:05 GMT)

The state of Indian cricket as always lie in a muddle. They were regarded high in the start of the tournament, compared to the likes of Australia and well, started off in good fashion, but that was it! The 1st match in the super 8s against the Aussies was considered the clash of the titans (omg!), and what we saw was a complete thrashing by he Aussies to no end. What India could do without is the hype and buzz that surrounds them all the time. We should accept the fact that other than the Aussies no other team has been consistent enough to claim the favorites title. All teams had their bad days in the tournament. South Africa was equally pathetic in their batting, New Zealand wasn't good enough, so was the West Indies but India is the one that receives the largest amount of flak just because the media had decided that Indians were top contenders for the cup.

Posted by on (May 12, 2010, 14:59 GMT)

Amazing article Sidharth! This is the first time I am tempted to post a comment on Cricinfo... nothing exaggerated, but a very true and honest piece of criticism. There are too many phrases that I liked and unable to re-quote here. I sincerely wish BCCI, Dhoni & team take note of this kind of criticism constructively, and work on their grave mistakes, instead of putting a deaf ear as they would to just another whiner, when the team loses!! Honestly, I don't see anyone in the current crop of players (may be Gambhir) as determined & willing to go back to the basics (practise endlessly) in the face of some weakness, like any of the fab4 would do (I have my doubts about Sehwag too... he's more talented than strong-willed I feel...)

Posted by Kashi0127 on (May 12, 2010, 14:57 GMT)

The fact is IPS is a Reality Show like the Rakhi Sawant variety which Yuvraj, Harbhajan and Sreesanth seem to excel these days and World Cup is the Real Stuff. The funny thing is all the foreign players who were in India for IPL realized that and their true potential was seen in World Cup whereas for Indian boys the Green Stuff ($$$) is more important

Posted by chamaar on (May 12, 2010, 14:54 GMT)

such a poor performance by indians.we should kick there ass like pakistan and west indies public did ages ago. we have long shit politician they never say any thing . and our public is really sick. when in india only one game people watch. then we should kick and take them all seriously. but no one does. shame on you public of india and cricketers go and get more money from tab players or sleep at home. indian cricketer are only here for time waster for our country after kapil dev no ones have guts to bring a world cup or ipl cup or icc 20 - 20. SHAME ON YOU DHONI WE HAVE TO WASH YOU OUR WASHIN MACHINE(DHONI MEANS WASH ALL THE TIME WITH BAT OR KICK ) THEY ALL ARE PLAYING TO BE FAME OR FOR MONEY NOT LIKE AUSTRALIAN DO OR DIE. SHAME AND REALLY POOR PERFORMANCE . DHONI WILL NEVER GET WORLD FCUP WE DONT HAVE A ALL ROUNDER THEY CANT FIND 14 PLAYERS IN OUR BIG POPULATION. SHUD FIND FROM POOR FAMILY SO THEY CAN SHOW SOME RESULT AND WIN SOM WORLD CUP LIKE CHAMAAR FAMILY

Posted by Kashi0127 on (May 12, 2010, 14:45 GMT)

I suspect Match Fixing OR a delibrate revenge attitude against BCCI for losing. Nothing explains the way Dhoni led the side or for that matter the selection. Selection of and persistence of Jadeja smacks something not related to cricket. Ignoring Vinay Kumar shows the kind of bias Dhoni has against some folks. Sack Dhoni!

Posted by Nayeem_Kohir on (May 12, 2010, 14:37 GMT)

Of late Dhoni has shown chinks in his ability as captain. He should have used Yusuf Pathan up the order as a pinch hitter. Yusuf Pathan should have been given the license to go after the bowling. If the move would have paid off then India would have a distinct advantage. If not, other batsmen would have taken control of the situation as there are many of them. Anyway Yusuf Pathan has not done much with the bat coming down the order. And why the hell Ravinder Jadeja got so many games. India could have played an specialist spinner instead of Ravinder Jadeja. Dhoni's decision to put Australia into bat, and then bring on Jadeja early after winning the toss also costed India dearly. Dhoni of late has been found wanting as a captain, although he is still the best choice India has as a captain. I think he has picked up some kind of disliking for Irfan Pathan as well otherwise the all rounder could have been much more useful than a Ravinder Jadeja or some other batsman.

Posted by SamVT on (May 12, 2010, 14:35 GMT)

This was going to happen and it will happen unless 'Selection Committee Chairman', Mr. Srikanth and Indian Captain, Dhoni do not stop their own agendas. Supporting local tamilian players by Srikanth (e. g. how much M. Vijay has international experience, capabilities, and temperament as compared to Virat Kohli? And is Karthick batsman or wicket-keeper?, most of the time, he is playing as opener) and favoring some players by Dhoni like Ravindra Jadeja, RP Singh and Raina without their capabilities instead of Irfan Pathan, Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli is non-sense. Clearly, there are 3-4 factions in Indian team; 1) Seniors like Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman, 2) Sehwag, Gambhir, Ishant and Amit Mishra, 3) Yuvraj and north Indian players, and 4) Dhoni, and his favored players like Raina, Bhajji, M. Vijay, and Karthick. Dhoni needs to understand its a team game and he has to respect senior players otherwise he will be removed soon, he is destroying some players career and some people wont ..

Posted by rabidmonkey on (May 12, 2010, 14:34 GMT)

how selfish did a team have to play if azaruddin is preaching them to put the team first before their personal needs .cause we know azar is a real stickler for resposibility !!

Posted by 26ram on (May 12, 2010, 14:33 GMT)

Dhoni was talking about the parties he HAD to attend in the IPL. What he forgot to mention was what business his boys had partying until 4am in Babados on the eve of the match. They came to Barbados to play and being up until 4am at a night club in Barbados will not help if they had to play a match at 9.30 am that same day. This is totally irresponsible behaviour by the players and especially both Captain and Manager. Yuvraj was seen at the Hilton party with "company" long after the coctails with the High Commissioner was over. India should investigate these incident. Lot of Indians living in Barbados have photos of the players at the Night club!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:33 GMT)

give indian team a break guies .. its not the end of the world if india is out of t 20 ... india is very good team they wre unlucky ..

Posted by mjsay on (May 12, 2010, 14:29 GMT)

The reality was once again exposed in West Indies. This is the cycle of pattern which Indian cricket has been following for decades. Away from home we are just an ordinary team struggling to cope with bounce and fast paced track. On the other side we lack bowlers who can bowl quick. This scenario would only change if we have the necessary changes in the domestic level. The pitches should change, we must have tracks which can encourage fast bowlers. We cannot afford to boast ourselves by saying we play spin well. The another important area to be looked at is the fielding. Only when the BCCI wakes up and starts implementing things in the ground level, we would have quality players at the top level!!!

Posted by dk75018 on (May 12, 2010, 14:28 GMT)

its the same story every year and year after, when we loose in some world level tournament, we start pointing out the weaknesses in team. But do we really have any problem here in technique or capability of our bowlers?? or are these player lacking the attitude, more or less taking these games granted as they do earn enough (money and fame) in tournaments like IPL. Are they still hungry for success any more?? Dhoni and co's performance suggest something different, Mr cool says team is tired.Talk about David warner, Micheal lumb, Kevin Peiterson, Jaywardhane, for you all those seems to have landed from Mars/Saturn or do they have different dedication towards their actual responsibilities. All these players are performing with their best. dun forget Watson, the guy joined IPL after the test series, and still not tired.. what does he eat ?"Mr Dhoni and Co" you may not be the best player against the short balls, but somewhere inside your heart you guys know you ain't that bad either..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:21 GMT)

Hi If india wants to win T20, I have solution, quite easy !! Just schedule IPL Auction couple of weeks ahead of T20 WC...thats it. and see the result...everybody would be excited to do something. any doubt?? comments please.

Posted by india_cricket_lover on (May 12, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

Good article. But I am surprised with the bashing of IPL. Almost all of Sri Lanka team played in IPL. Still they performed very well in ICC T20. Same with most of the players in Australia/England. Our selectors have done a very poor job of selecting the team. Most of the selection has been based on the past credentials than the current form. Added to this the famous "Short Ball" issue has added more complications. Dhoni/Coach need to do some serious thinking on the Short Ball handling. This cannot go for ages. Finally India needs some quality bowlers. We cannot rely on part time bowlers.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:13 GMT)

What was the use of IPL ???? PAK didnt play much Int'l games , they had all the reasons to for excuses ....... but after such huge IPL tournaments ..... what was the outcome .... Guess they should keep playing PAK only then they seem to improve ......

Posted by synergy on (May 12, 2010, 14:10 GMT)

Making fast & bouncy tracks is not the answer because what I see is that Indian cricket is revolving around IPL scenario & unless we get out of this, we cannot expect Team India to perform at int'l level. Flat pitchs are prepared in IPL because they want big sixes & fours to entertain the crowd with the run feast thus pulling the crowd to the stadias. IPL dosent care if cricket in India suffers, all they are interested is keep making money for the Franchisies, Players & all others involved in it and thats waht is happening. Just look at the fact that Team India beat the aussies in Australia on their type of wickets & this happened before the IPL started, so its not that they cant do it. The players do not want to do the hard work as they are getting more than they expected by playing in IPL on flat wickets, no one is concerned about performing at int'l level because what ever they achieve for Team India will not bring them more money than IPL so these super heros of India dont care.

Posted by billy666 on (May 12, 2010, 14:10 GMT)

Dhoni is in denial, he just doesn't wanna accept the fact that his players are drained...look at the way gambhir was running between the wickets, nehra didnt even find time to shave and yet dhoni refuses to admit it, P.S. IPL and Modi have screwed indian cricket.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:07 GMT)

Fire BCCI selectors,Change captain.Put a challenging leader.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:04 GMT)

When Team India does well then every critic is on their feet. And when they don't perform, they just throw stones on them like zoo animals. What's with the IPL stuff, I really don't understand. Why can't they admit the other teams played better cricket than India???? Short balls, lack of pacers won't be a problem for too long. Then see, how this Monga reacts !!!!

Posted by Sajahan on (May 12, 2010, 14:01 GMT)

No Indian accepting that they were outplayed by a better team but that is the true. Accept the true and rectify your blunders and correct them for the next game my dear. Surely better team will win the game. Since you arent the better team, try to find the way to be the better team. Good luck INDIA for future games. Also Indian fans are too harsh and that gave them the result. Most of the International players played IPL and it is just a lame excuse. Before bribary if India lose now IPL... shame on INDIA

Posted by pak-united on (May 12, 2010, 14:00 GMT)

I guess its ok not to be a part of IPL because their standards do not reflect those of the international ones, one way or another Pakistani's can consider themselves lucky not to be a part of this event. My Indian counter-parts may jump all over me for this one, but its a fact that "unpredictable" Pakistan has shown consistency in the World cup T-twenty tournament all around, and not to mention they WON it when they weren't a part of IPL and now they have made it to the semi's this time along as well. Sure they are rusty but the Indians were supposedly "shining", I'd rather be the former than "shine" like a blinking star lol. Poor India cannot even make it beyond super 8's.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:00 GMT)

I honestly wont blame MS for this. He's given his best, like aganist Australia he knew his pace attack was not good at all, he shuda put faith in Vinay Kumar, but its ok. He used his spinners and they failed. He used his All rounder spinners because he needa that extra batter. Well Jadeja n Yusuf are horrible. Like David Hussey, Shobiab Malik are such better spin all rounders, sorry I did not include Afridi because Hes in a league of his own as an all rounder. But the selection is to Blame.. Sriikant has been very biased, First off 1) Piyush Chawla over Ojha, Ojha has done decent in the 4 5 ODIs they played him in. 2) Yusuf over Irfan, def coulda used a medium pace all rounder. Irfan even bats better than Yusuf. 3) Where are the medium pace bowlers of india.. Sid Trivedi coulda been an option. Batting wise , Uttapaa can play the short ball, we saw that!! Next yr.. sewagh, gambhir, raina, rohit, dhoni, uttapaa, Irfan, Ojha, Harbhan, no idea who our 2 fast men should be. GOODLCUK

Posted by Manush on (May 12, 2010, 13:56 GMT)

Our team lacks quality bowlers barring Harbhajan and Zaheer . The poor run of form of Yuvraj and Gambhir followed by the absence explosive openers Sehwag and Tendulkar added to the misery. Rest of the cricketers are below par and do not qualify for selection. Omission of Uthappa was a serious mistake as also Prajan Ohja . The team selection for the new series is also lacking quality in selection.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:55 GMT)


Posted by Awmi on (May 12, 2010, 13:53 GMT)

Here we go. Indian Cricket Fan. if India managed to go to semi final they would've worship the player and the IPL but unfortunately they failed and all this critisicm started.

Posted by Omarrz on (May 12, 2010, 13:53 GMT)

IPL fatigue? There will be 2 new teams in the next edition...haha

Posted by devulapalli on (May 12, 2010, 13:42 GMT)

Srini D: Lack of planning, not fielding the best side and a lack of commitment to winning on the big stage always results in getting eliminated early..India should have known better than to assume spin would dominate a WC in the West Indies - perhaps they forgot about the fire from Marshall, bounce from Roberts and the fury of Holding. Perhaps they ignored the best team fit to play the tournament in the likes of Uthappa and Dravid (I can handle pace maan). Instead we fielded a side of egotistical young brats with miserable or subpar records in the IPL. The likes of Yuvraj and Pathan had no business being in this side. It appears that everytime we head to big stage, our plan is a prayer and a hope that the other side fares poorer. Sad and disappointing performance from Dhoni and his men. The least they could have done was compete.

Posted by HITESH15 on (May 12, 2010, 13:37 GMT)

I think all Indian players who participated in the world cup should only play IPL. Specially Dhoni, Yusuf, yuvraj, Raina, Harbhajan and others. They are only good in IPL. I just remember that some one from Pakistan said after India won the first T20 world cup that India will never win is again, and its seems like that Dhoni and his team is doing same. Dhoni should play and captain Chennai Superking team only. He was hitting good and scoring runs in IPL but yesterday he could not even hit one boundry? Wow great going superking captain. IPL is money making business for players like Dhoni and Yuvraj but in Indian team they are useless. Yuvraj was total fail in IPL and yet selector chosen him over Utthapa and Sehwag's replacement was M Vijay? Not Utthapa wow????? Thank you captain Dhoni and Indian team selectors with you guys around we will never win big tournaments so forget world cup. I bet in the next year world cup we will see same stuff.

Posted by srprev on (May 12, 2010, 13:31 GMT)

Like australians too..India need a seperate T20 team..and try some nice pace bolwers and t20 specialist batsmen and bowlers. Just blaming each other wont get on...

The trend has been similar to last WC. shewag getting injured just before the tournament, winning the first round easily giving pseudo idea to the fans that India team is in great form...Actually all the three matches we did play well in patches and palyed poorly in patches.. we could improve..But just try for specalist players.. Like Aus have tait and nannes for t20, SL have some specialit hitters and Malinga..and pak have ajmal...We have lots of talent and bowlers yaar. Just don't give chance to players on past performance...pick them on current form and make them play in real cricket not in Bolly-cricket...with cheer girls around and actress hugging around..

Posted by vinay5890 on (May 12, 2010, 13:28 GMT)

when u look at indian batsman in the last 5 overs they were rooted to the crease and unable to hit the yorkers where srilankans were given juicy full tosses and haly volley in the last 5 overs without bowling a single yorker .i guess india needs to bring back irfan in place of regular bowlers like nehra,he has a good slower ball ND BOWLS YORKERS AT THE END ,he can be used at any position to up the ante

Posted by akram112 on (May 12, 2010, 13:28 GMT)

U know its amazing how when our team loses we get so frustrated that we only point out the mistakes and forget the high points. Yes we lost pathetically...... AGAIN!! Yes, Dhoni made a lot of tactical errors. Yes, India needs more than four specialist bowlers. But its over. No point in humiliating them anymore. Let's hope that the Indian team learns from its errors, that they learn to cope with the short ball, and that they give their best shot for the 2011 WC without letting a domestic league like the IPL deter them. The IPL is the most exciting tournament in cricket of the year. There's no point in denying it. Not the T20 WC, not the CL T20 not even the ODI WC come close to generating the amount of excitement that around 80% of the IPL matches create. It is entertainment in cricket that pulls the masses. But the down point is it gets to the players heads as well as the selectors heads. Thats the problem.....

Posted by asok286 on (May 12, 2010, 13:24 GMT)

Good article..I think it's right time for BCCI to decide upon IPL Cup or WorldCup. I dont think selectors or team to be blamed, even if we'd have sent Uttapa or Tiwary or any one would been a goat because all of these guys have been showing colors in IPL. BCCI should cut shot IPL Schedule and allow the guys to tour outside, thats the practice not just playing in subcontinent picthes and never as a team.. THey should be beware that if we're not having enough match practice that is torung then WC would just be a dream. If you've seen IPL Statistics - 4 Foreign Playes/team played moderately in IPL but out performed in T20 against India which indiactes they're quickly learning but we're running on the Pride.... NO#1. So think BCCI its time to put both money and cricket in one scale and decide??????

Posted by gshot on (May 12, 2010, 13:23 GMT)

I am not quite sure what led to India's disastrous performance in the Super 8, what seems certain though is there is more than what meets the eye. Besides the IPL fatigue, lack of motivation was apparent, not to mention the poor team selection. Although this failure cannot be pinned on any one person however in the game of cricket the Captain must take the ownership of failure just as he does for the success of the team. I have a lot of admiration for MS Dhoni but was utterly disappointed the way he led the team in this tournament and the string of bad decisions which he stubbornly stuck to - it almost seemed he is trying to prove a point at the cost of the entire nation's expectations. How many times has India won the toss before and elected to bowl fearing to face the opponents pace attack on the early morning pitch even though batting is their strength. Almost always such decisions have resulted in defeat... if history doesn't teach us anything nothing ever will.

Posted by srprev on (May 12, 2010, 13:22 GMT)

Like australians too..India need a seperate T20 team..and try some nice pace bolwers and t20 specialist batsmen and bowlers. Just blaming each other wont get on...

The trend has been similar to last WC. shewag getting injured just before the tournament, winning the first round easily giving pseudo idea to the fans that India team is in great form...Actually all the three matches we did play well in patches and palyed poorly in patches.. we could improve..But just try for specalist players.. Like Aus have tait and nannes for t20, SL have some specialit hitters and Malinga..and pak have ajmal...We have lots of talent and bowlers yaar. Just don't give chance to players on past performance...pick them on current form and make them play in real cricket not in Bolly-cricket...with cheer girls around and actress hugging around..

Posted by gshot on (May 12, 2010, 13:22 GMT)

I am not quite sure what led to India's disastrous performance in the Super 8, what seems certain though is there is more than what meets the eye. Besides the IPL fatigue, lack of motivation was apparent, not to mention the poor team selection. Although this failure cannot be pinned on any one person however in the game of cricket the Captain must take the ownership of failure just as he does for the success of the team. I have a lot of admiration for MS Dhoni but was utterly disappointed the way he led the team in this tournament and the string of bad decisions which he stubbornly stuck to - it almost seemed he is trying to prove a point at the cost of the entire nation's expectations. How many times has India won the toss before and elected to bowl fearing to face the opponents pace attack on the early morning pitch even though batting is their strength. Almost always such decisions have resulted in defeat... if history doesn't teach us anything nothing ever will.

Posted by sinkpaul on (May 12, 2010, 13:20 GMT)

I think the oldies were the real men, who had real passion for the game and the hunger to win and prove that their side was good at cricket. I dont see any such feelings in the stupid "young guns" like in the strong candidate for MoS Jadeja or Pathan or even say Raina,Nehra.. They just want to prove their skills, even in which they fail miserably!!!!! No intensity, no passion, no nothing.. no SKILLS.. thats what we got at this stage in our team..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:16 GMT)

Superb article Monga.. As you say, these guys need to respect the game..

And no one is going to buy Dhoni's comment that the IPL didn't really hurt.. We all know the forces behind these rehearsed press conferences that cricketers give...

Posted by ssgopi on (May 12, 2010, 13:13 GMT)

Mr Dhoni first try to respect senior players.. in the first edition u have won the cup because schewag, who played very well.. Without some standard openers like schewag, sachine and dada India can't win anything.. That have been proved once again by U guys.... Mr Srikanth, I don't know in what way the selected batsmen are better than the masters sachin and dada.. They are proved (once again in IPL III) that they can also play(better than others) T20s.. Can anyone bowl a short ball for sachine or dravid...???? so srikanth should call some senior players back to the T20s squad...

Posted by Inba on (May 12, 2010, 13:02 GMT)

All this blame on IPL is sheer nonsense. All the Srilankans barring 3 or 4 have a part of IPL. Every team playing in this competition has had a minimum of 4 people to have played in the IPL. Its time to come to terms that India as a team is pathetic and definitely not suited to play leave alone winning the T20 games. Thats the reality.

Posted by vishwa_a on (May 12, 2010, 12:59 GMT)

Dhoni is the key culprit! Whenever India is in good position, he comes for batting by promoting himself. When India struggles, he sends someone else to battle out and live in pressure! What do you call it? Smart selfish behavior! Yesterday's match between India-Sri Lanka was a perfect launch pad from someone like Rohit Sharma to come down at number 4. But, no... Dhoni promoted himself!

Posted by Mashood_Pakistan on (May 12, 2010, 12:57 GMT)

Disappointing performance through out the tournament by the team who is going to host the upcoming 50 50 World cup. They are tumbling for two years in 20 20. I wonder what they can achieve in 50 50 with this team. They have to work hard on their seamers

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:52 GMT)

India deserved to be out of the tournament, I am a pakistani fan but i think both subcontinent teams (Pak and India) played very poorly in this world cup. Pakistan bounced back in their last match but overall they doesn't seem to be the x-champs of T20. Disappointment from our end too because not a single match happened between Pak and Ind !!

Posted by alyasshi on (May 12, 2010, 12:52 GMT)

yet another poor icc tournament ....if u see normally these players are very good against any attack (be it short ball,turning tracks)....this team has shown promise and we cannot just judge them by one tournament ...some players are very new to international scene and such things can happen...but still wat i believe is giving these players more exposure would do good,as rightly said by author they are covered by senior players more against teams like australia and south africa(in australia and south africa) they must learn to fight conditions and also about the bowling we need a good bowling coach and if my suggestion is read by someone in the cricket board ....a person the world seems to hav forgottten"GLEN MCGRATH" it nay be a drastic change but may be inspirational one (see wat allan donald has done to england bowling)...i mean there is no use of blaming anybody we all know how capable dhoni is as a captain we all hope he does well in nxt year's WC tournament.

Posted by shiva_slogsout on (May 12, 2010, 12:46 GMT)

Spot on, hit the nail on the Head! Good Article and Hope the Indians are reading it to realize the reality! After all, Cricket is not all about Money, fame and Parties. After all, it is just a game, but played not at School, remember, it involves countries and the Pride of India is at Stake. Tell you what, just stop calling Dhoni a cool captain, an intelligent one, and all that rubbish. A captain is as good as his team and Dhoni and his young brigade is pathetic to say the Least when it comes to Character (be it in Sport, Discipline or in Real World). That's the problem with Young Indians in any field for that matter. What they got to learn from the likes of Rahul and Sachin is the Character and Professionalism, not Cricket. Just forget about bouncers and all that, it is just a Mental thing as Gayle pointed out.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:42 GMT)

Team India ! its not Lalit Modi cup its ICC WC for world class teams..anyhow thanks for your appearance...

Posted by Jama on (May 12, 2010, 12:42 GMT)


Posted by U.A.1985 on (May 12, 2010, 12:41 GMT)

Really, that is just poor. I mean is this the best Indian can give? By factors of popularity, wealth and resources Indian cricket is at the peak. Never have Indian players been rewarded more with money. Remember the days of kapil Dev, Sunil Gavaskar, Sidhu, Prabhakar. They all did not recieve millions of dollars for playing cricket but nowadays Indian cricketers are the most well paid cricketers globally. Just take a look at your neighbours; Pakistan. Their cricketers' incomes are going down, they have several rifts in the team, they have zillions of problems with their Board and thus their players are playing the worst they can but still they were able to reach the semis by defeating South Africa.

Hats off to their TALENT!!

Posted by praveen05 on (May 12, 2010, 12:39 GMT)

mr.dhoni and the entire indian team, take a look at mr.vishwanathan anand. he won against all odds, won the battle in the heart of opponent territory. be proud to represnt ur country. there are millions who pray for the countrys head to be held high. dont let us down like this. dont shame the name of the nation.

nobody forced the players to party during IPL. just 2 days before the match against srilanka, the players were found playing beach volleyball and partying again on beachside. is this the commitment the players have. just take a look at the seniors like sachin, dravid and laxman. they dont party and just look at the pride they have playing for the nation. shame on dhoni and the entire selection panel for letting us down. thank u vishy for giving us something to cheer about. u are the true pride of the nation. CHEERS!

Posted by boris6491 on (May 12, 2010, 12:38 GMT)

India were just inept during and complacent even before going into this tournament. Following their win in the inaugural world T20 (which undoubtedly was a superb achievement), they have been most disappointing in this format of the game. Firstly, I felt the makeup of this side was incorrect. It seemed most players were being selected on reputation rather than form and capabilities to play at the highest level. This may seem harsh but the selections of Yusuf Pathan (who has not justified national selection despite his potential), Jadeja (who didn't even feature in the IPL, Chawla (who was plucked out of obscurity despite the performances of Ojha and Mishra) and even (which may lead to many raised eyebrows) Yuvraj were questionable. Their struggles against short pitched bowling continued and what is most disappointing is the fact that in spite of being fully aware that short bowling is the gameplan for all opposition bowlers, they have been unable to counter it.

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Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:33 GMT)

ICC events carry a lot of International talent , not IPL talent which is primarily domestic talent. If you want to play at the highest level , you better bring your game to that level !

Posted by TestCric on (May 12, 2010, 12:31 GMT)

There is no worse words to describe Team India's losses in T20 WC. THE SINGLE REASON FOR THEIR PATHETIC OUSTER IS STUPID, RUBBISH, NON-SENSE IPL WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL TOURNAMENT SELLING 6s AND 4s. This Team India completely lacks Motivation, Inspiration, Self-Belief, Hunger, Fitness needed at International Level. IPL has taken betting to highest level. Team India and BCCI is completely focussed on IPL. Because of IPL, Team India is losing skill, inspiration, motivation and fitness to play Test Cricket. These curators, coaches and BCCI officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in other tournaments. IPL is completely meaningless and obsolete Tournament. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch between Countries unlike IPL Teams which look like clubs. Test Cricket is ultimate to watch on sportive pitches. But IPL is making these pitches Lifeless.

Posted by BasharatRasool on (May 12, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

Its the pathetic excuses made by indian captain. was he not saw other international playing in world t20? ridiculous comments, absolutely ridiculous. Its their old weakness which has came infron of them. First they depend on Tendulkar & on Mr. sehwag. they have forgotten that cricket is the team game. the team can win only when every individual provide brilliance which is not in the case of india. now wat happened to the writer who has compared chennai super kings' IPL win with 1992 world cup Champions Pakistan which afterwards the world knows them with phrase "IMRAN KHAN'S CORNER TIGERS". While writting that article the writter had forgotten, in that world cup pakistan team had played with such passion that the world had not saw it before. now i suggested that writer to compare this Indian team with the team which has defeated so exceptionally in the fast.

Posted by alltimegreat on (May 12, 2010, 12:26 GMT)

Trust me , we would forget the debacles of our team once they start playing on low and slow surfaces in India and Srilanka. And once the next IPL starts we praise all the "greatest inning" ever played. To be frank, IPL has helped all the players and the BCCI expect the Indian players.Good going BCCI..keep it up.

Posted by _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on (May 12, 2010, 12:24 GMT)

The IPL was fun but that was all it was meant to be. Only 4 int'l players a side and every skipper bar Kumble asked for a flat, slow, rubbish pitch. Guys like Eoin Morgan and Tait who had a rough time and weren't given a chance to adjust have shown that class is permanent when it truly matters. Guys like Watson, Nannes n Gayle have been playing just as much t-20 but have shown incredible ability to adjust n laugh at the "fatigue" excuse. Ind is #1 RANKED test team but whether or not they r #1 is still up for argument. The test bowling is just as inconsistent as the t-20 bowling and the fielding is just as poor. The truth is not many outside Ind are convinced that Ind can retain the #1 rank if the balance between bat and ball is redressed WORLD WIDE, especially in Ind. Again they have the potential (massive talent pool n batting skills) to fix this (b-4 the fab 4 retire) but will they have the work ethic or the willingness? That is the question.

Posted by cricdeep on (May 12, 2010, 12:24 GMT)

C'mon Modi (if you are still around) bring on the 96 game IPL 4. Next year too the IPL will prove to be a bane for the Indian team. It not only fatigues the players physically, but mentally too they after being financially obliged to the owners, they will not have anything left to give back to the country when playing for India. The last two T20 world cups have shown that players have no motivation playing for the country compared to playing for franchise.

Posted by vivek_tyagi on (May 12, 2010, 12:23 GMT) far as preparation goes, I remember a story I red about Virender Sehwag once. The mighty Viru almost gave up international cricket as soon as it started because he couldn't see the balls coming at him at over 150kph. His coach found a good solution. He made Viru practice batting on wet cemented wickets, with bowlers bowling at him with hard cork balls from 16 yards at his body. He was left with no option but to defend to save himself from getting struck. Sehwag is not born assassin of bowlers, hard practice made him so. I doubt if many among our STAR CRICKETERS and young cricketers even bother to work at their game to improve themselves. One year was enough time to hone their skills againest bouncers after last T20 world cup disappointments. But these players take money and fame for granted, especially after IPL. There is no more hope for our cricket team unless IPL is scrapped or atleast young cricketers are barred from playing in IPL.

Posted by Pramod75 on (May 12, 2010, 12:21 GMT)

It only goes to show how important preparation is for any event. It is now proved beyond doubt that IPL is not really an ideal ground to prepare for T20. Atleast not when WC is played on hard / fast / bouncy pitches. Team selection is baffling and selectors and MS look like confused lot. On one had they believe IPL is good preparation for T20 WC and on the other hand, they don't include players who performed well in IPL. Talk about omitting Ojha, Robin, Ashwin and even Siddarth Trivedi. Atleast 2 of the above would have been better selections. It also appears that no one bothered to check out WI pitch conditions before selecting the team. Some one needs to explain to everyone why Robin is not even included in the Zim tour which has 2nd level players. Even more baffling is MS's inability to gauge the conditions once he is in WI. Consistently took wrong decisions through out the super 8"s. He said against AUS that early start and pitch has moisture, will seam, and opens with Bhaji.:)

Posted by gerardpereira20 on (May 12, 2010, 12:19 GMT)

Blameing the IPL is a red herring. India has no chance of winning an international limited overes international unless the tournament is played in India with a fully fit Sachin & Shewag fireing on all cylinders.India does not have a single bowler who can contain let alone take wickets in a preassure situation and by this I mean even the blowlers not in the current squad. The Ishants, the Sreeshants, the Mishras, The Irfans, the RPs all tried and tested all failed. Vijay and Gambhir are not T20 meterial although there is some value in playing Gambhir in the 50 over format. Raina has technical flaws against the short ball that need to be ironed out. Yuvraj has an attitude problem and thinks he is bigger than the game. Dhoni is a defensive captain, he once cost India a test by not declaring even when he had 500 on board. IPL fatigue? Well Watson, Hussey,Pietersen Collingwood, Jaywardena, and Sangakara all played in the IPL. Sangakara even had the added responsability of captaing Punjab.

Posted by Hoggy_1989 on (May 12, 2010, 12:18 GMT)

I think if the IPL has taught us anything, its that its not neccssarily a 'young man's game' its an 'experienced man's game'. Look at the batsman who have topped the batting sheets for the first 3 IPL tournaments. Shaun Marsh for IPL 1 (OK, not experienced but still a talented limited-overs batsman but Gambhir, Jayasuriya, Graeme Smith, and Watson in the Top 5), IPL 2 saw Hayden, Gilchrist, AB de Villers, Raina and Dilshan top the sheets, and IPL 3 saw Tendulkar, Kallis and Raina, Ganguly and Vijay top the list. Only 2 'new' Indian batsman in the Top 5 for the entire tournament's existance. Doesn't that say something to the people who pick the team; Go for experience. So Dravid and Laxman think they're 'too old?' Rubbish, I think they'd kick all these 'young players' up and down the park all day long. And now that the batsman have been found out by the short ball, the first thing they do when they get home is work on it...cause every bowler in the world knows how to get them now!

Posted by Dayanidhisn on (May 12, 2010, 12:16 GMT)

Yup, the flaws have become all the more glaring with everything going wrong for Team India right from the drawing room, practice sessions, Batting Order,running between wickets, bowling and fielding. The first flaw is the team choice for each and every match and lack of strategy as per the conditions of the pitch, the size of the stadium and the type of opposition they were playing.How could you go with 2 or 3 Main Bowlers in each of the International matches and allow opposition plunder runs and expect the Batsmen to fire at short and wide balls when dot balls are the order of the tournament. The bowling lacked sting or plan and no tactics employed against Gayle or Watson who were plundering in the leg side.Why Rohit Sharma was not preferred to play before Dhoni in the do or die SL MATCH when the key was playing quality cricket and not slogging as in small grounds.How could Dhoni choose to field first when the teams batting first have been winning all the matches

Posted by popcorn on (May 12, 2010, 12:15 GMT)

Here are the reasons Dhoni gave for the Indian Team's abject performance in the T20 World Cup 2010.1. No,I don't blame the IPL.2. No,it was not the short gap beween coming to the Caribbean.3. No,not getting a break was not an issue. Then what were the reasons? Dhoni was ambivalent, beating around the bush,unable to be ruthless,unable to come down heavily on the non -performers. Truth is,India lacked self-confidence.The Mental Conditioning Coach, Paddy Upton, who is Chief Coach Gary Kirtsen's sidekick,did nothing.Truth is,Gary Kirtsen did nothing to improve the Indian batsmen's weakness against the rising ball, the short ball. Truth is,Dhoni's selection of the bowling attack was totally wrong. Worse,he did nothing to correct the wrong decision - only two seamers against Australia, for the match against the West Indies. Remedies? Sack Dhoni,sack Gary Kirtsen,sack the Selectors.The first step to find a successor has beetaken. Suresh Raina will lead India in the Zimbabwe Tri series

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:14 GMT)

Thats a superb Article Sidharth Monga........ Heres a request..... Please write down an article addressing Sachin Tendulkar..... that he needs to play T20 World Cup rather than the all commercial IPL...... Its the nation that is important than money......!!!! Please do it...... I plead.....

Posted by WeNeedSportingPitches on (May 12, 2010, 12:14 GMT)

My thoughts: If everyone (including self) boycott the 3rd season IPL by not visiting the ground or watching on TV/Internet etc... may be there is an outside chance that BCCI will realize that it is important to have good one-day and tests rather than anyone can hit on any day 20-20 match..

God save cricket....... We are god and it is our (fans) duty to save cricket (from 20-20 bangers)

Posted by vivek_tyagi on (May 12, 2010, 12:14 GMT)

The lack of preparation was so evident among our so called star players & youngsters followed their example really well. It seems that Indian cricketers do not care about their national commitments anymore. They are getting their fame and money from IPL, so the national duties are now secondary or just a foreign holiday. Even worse, the young cricketers playing at national level are only concerned about getting IPL contracts and money. Representing India is not their dream now. Personally I am going to quit watching IPL as its a joke on our national pride and only benefits money hungry administrators and cricketers. It has caused extreme damage to our cricket and made our players careless & lazy.

Posted by rket on (May 12, 2010, 12:13 GMT)

No net practice these days Only Adv shooting half days Plenty of money from IPL games Where is motivation to win INT games.

Scrap IPL. Give no room to lethargic players. I remember having minus marks in entrance exams. Do the same thing here. If they lose like this, take money out of their pockets.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:13 GMT)

This continued dismal performaces in the T20 format of the game by the Indian team goes to show the fact that the first world cup win was only a 'flash in the pan' ..

Youth and spirit can only take you so far .. Quality and experience is what that stands for a long time ..

This is a lesson for Dhoni and the Team Selectors not to discount 'experience' for youth in any format of the game and learn to respect the seniors of the game.

This clearly was not India's best 11 without the likes of Sachin, Sehwag and Dravid .. Dravid and Tendulkar have only been avoiding T20 for the lack of respect for senior members for this format from the rest .. Am sure they'd love to represent the country in any format of the game .. but not at the cost of their self-respect.

IPL and schedule are not to be blamed .. its the players responsibility to be match fit whatever they do .. or else they leave way for others ..

Posted by AAJS on (May 12, 2010, 12:13 GMT)

I know Pak are poor but at least we have a valid reason, crap first class structure, no investment, no facilities, nepotism, no man-management, dishonesty so on and on... But you, India, I thought you have been plotting world dominance for years and all that money, dancing girls, world exposure and still no further forward! tu tut... And what about the fact that you guys are playing against world's best players surely that should improve your game alas it hasn't happened.. guess money can't buy success after all...Having said all that I am no fan of T20 but it should serve notice to India though...

Posted by rket on (May 12, 2010, 12:12 GMT)

No net practice these days Only Adv shooting half days Plenty of money from IPL games Where is motivation to win INT games.

Scrap IPL. Give no room to lethargic players. I remember having minus marks in entrance exams. Do the same thing here. If they lose like this, take money out of their pockets.

Posted by BONG_IN_CHENNAI on (May 12, 2010, 12:10 GMT)

C'mon we Indians a lways ask for MORE.

We enjoy the club-cricket with all passions and emotions of IPL arranged by the Indian-mind-exploitation giant LM, and then expect good response in world cup T20.

Expect Raina, check teh top 5 run-getters in IPL. They include SRT, kalis and the famous ever media-targetted person - SG. None of these are in teh team. So waht do we expect?

Posted by JBing on (May 12, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

Did anyone honestly think India were a chance of winning?

They aren't near as good as Australia/SthAfrica and Pakistan/SriLanka have consistently seemed better than India in past competitions even if at times they have struggled in big games.

India need to realise that IPL isn't a high standard of cricket and really prepare better for a full international competition.

Posted by Alexk400 on (May 12, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

India lost because no sehwag to upset opposition plans and now they can plan and excecute them like freight train on indian batsman? Yes. Yuvaraj and gambhir lacked energy. May be the lost it in hotel room.:). Any team to win their franchise player has to be in form. for indian in t20 , yuvi is franchise player. He is out of form. India lost. Murali vijay showed he is no sehwag. Rohit sharma was proteced this time. Axe falls on M vijay this time. Dk is all talk and show off. Y.path is just domestic club player , just pure slogger. Can not adjust. No team can play constant short ball. it is just that India can't dish out same to opposition. So india need other way to counter attack. They should have bid their time and attacked slow bowlers. Oh well. It will be same case next T20 world cup also if india pick pure sloggers by IPL reputation.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:05 GMT)

whatever may bring them here they will bring sadness for all their fans.If I am not wrong (wanna be) due 2 IPL they no longer behave & excel as team now.

Posted by rket on (May 12, 2010, 11:58 GMT)

No net practice these days Only Adv shooting half days Plenty of money from IPL games Where is motivation to win INT games.

Scrap IPL. Give no room to lethargic players. I remember having minus marks in entrance exams. Do the same thing here. If they lose like this, take money out of their pockets.

This is not just about cricket, this is about our pride.

I still love my India, not cricket India team any more.

Posted by zak123kaif on (May 12, 2010, 11:54 GMT)

It was a big blunder to go with only 2 pace bowlers on the barbados wicket and only 3 specialist bowlers???Don'tknow what was Dhoni thinking.Maybe,the fact that his franchisee won the IPL after being on the verge of exit had put overconfidence in him that he will win from any 11 players.Most of all to see Ravindra jadeja play was pathetic and really even i would field better than him.

Posted by Vallam on (May 12, 2010, 11:51 GMT)

I feel the whole article and the comments many readers post are total waste. After every tournament loss, such articles appear and many of us post lot of comments honestly-wishing Indian cricket / cricketers will learn & improve.

But it is time to understand, we are talking bunch of people called cricketers who have no work ethics and are interested only in making money and dancing with those IPL owners like Shipa Shetty, etc. They will never learn or stop playing the game to make way for honest individuals to play. If BCCI is honest, they should remove Dhoni from Captaincy and drop players like Yuvaraj Singh still they fight & correct and prove themselves

Posted by anoopbal on (May 12, 2010, 11:50 GMT)

With 9 wickets in hand, the most crucial game,on a slow pitch, India scores 73 in 10 overs.And that too the captain in there.

What excuse do you have for that?

Pathan & Jadeja being selected on the basis of their performance of his IPL just shows the sub standard levels of IPL.

Posted by cyborg2k8 on (May 12, 2010, 11:50 GMT)

Next year there will be 90 IPL matches....oh gawd.......somebody stop this ...gully cricketers play better than this.....we may as well send a pack of stray dogs to represent India in international cricket while our so called IPL heroes can sit at home enjoying their IPL money and party late into the night.....It makes me sad to think tht Sachin may not be a part of worldcup winning squad in his career as they are never going to win the 2011 World cup at home..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 11:47 GMT)

Do you think BCCI gives shit about all this??? They are more interested in ripping off Modi from IPL Commissioner, because the IPL was a massive hit.... Haha shameless fellows. It is BCCI's first and foremost job to make amends for the shitty flat tracks that they prepared that make loosers look like super stars. I think Indian players will never play for the Team India hereafter. Their bread and butter will always be IPL. Thanks to you Modi... Also BCCI should try hard to enforce the following rules if team India has to win a world cup. 1. No more fast tracks, anywhere in the world. 2. No one should bowl faster than 133 Km 3. If a bowler who bounces above the hip, he should be removed from the match altogether 4. Test matches should be played only in India where Dhoni will supervise the pitch preparation and once he has approved, it will be considered international 5. In tests, Dhoni can umpire if need be. HAIL, BCCI

Posted by Kutty4u on (May 12, 2010, 11:34 GMT)

I don't agree with Dhoni when he says that these are the best 15 players from India. Why at all they want to select a team taking past performance into consideration? For ex selection of Yuvraj and Jadeja for this T20 world cup is just rubbish especially when you have players like Uthappa who are in good form in this domestic season. Long gone are days when Yuvraj performed to his potential. And he is not concentrating on his fitness as well. Just see how much wait he has put on in a couple of years!!! This has reflected in his performance in fielding as well. Also selection of playing eleven is pathetic in this worldcup. Dhoni tried to become too smart by picking only 2 pace bowlers when the pitch conditions are ideal for pace attack. He tried to win matches with part time bowlers which will never happen at international level on a consistent basis. Its high time for Dhoni to think normally and select his playing eleven according to the pitch conditions. Selectors please wake up!!!!!!

Posted by Khiladikannan on (May 12, 2010, 11:21 GMT)

Reason for such a poor show is simple. Indians lacked momentum (Sehwag). Lacked adaptibility to different conditions (Dravid). Lacked class and steadiness (Sachin). In whole they were short of Confidence (Sehwag, Dravid and Sachin).

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (May 12, 2010, 11:19 GMT)

I have been posting comments about IPL since its start. Indian cricket team is an over hyped, over paid team. Reality is that Australia is still the top nation in the world. I bet Pakistanis will be laughing their heads off as they did not play in IPL or were not allowed to. IPL should be stopped immediately. IPL is ruining Indian cricket. Its waste of time watching Indian team play. At same note Modi who had become bigger than the game himself has been booted out. It's about time that Indian think tank gather's itself and makes some decision. Yunraj Singh and Harbhajan Singh should be immediately dropped. Gambhir needs to stop walking around like Matthew Hayden as he has to achieve a lot to boost such claims. Finally, its time for Dhoni to go as he is a useless leader who is as good as players around him. Its amazing that only player's Indians have missing is Sehwag who happens to be an average player in ODI and T20's and still they did so bad. BCCI can learn from PCB.....actually!

Posted by fahim9128 on (May 12, 2010, 11:17 GMT)


Posted by Athar.Saeed on (May 12, 2010, 11:15 GMT)

"Team India", looks to be unfit for international events, go back and plan for next IPL.

Posted by cricket_ftw on (May 12, 2010, 11:12 GMT)

Sending players who were out of form for quite a long time and having very ordinary bowling attack, what do you expect team india to do in a international world cup. if IPL has worn them out how are the srilankan, australian players who played in IPL still performing. These are just excuses. The indian team is very ordinary in paper. Need to get some good bowlers trained for T20 cricket.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 11:05 GMT)

yes i agree with @swapnilp india has great player which they checked in IPL but they still go with the same old X giants ( Yuvi, gabhir, Yousaf pathan) why and how they can ignore robin uthapa, suman (DC), tiwari ( MI) they performed excellent in T20 format. if you saw X Giants (yuvi, gambhir) in IPL what they did. One more query regarding Sachin T he can play for mumbai indian even he was not fit but can not play for INDIA why? any way best of luck for next time or india as always ...

Posted by mrprof on (May 12, 2010, 11:00 GMT)

its really not surprising that india is out. We knew it from the outcome of IPL. Still Our Captain is not accepting that it is the fault of IPL. We can consider his helpless ness as our top polticos will ditch him permanently if he makes any such comments. our cricketers got used to bikes, babes, booz etc after the IPL games and what else can we expect from them?

Posted by ushakiran on (May 12, 2010, 11:00 GMT)

don't criticise yuvi.becoz he was hero when we won 1st t20 .

Posted by D.S.A on (May 12, 2010, 10:59 GMT)

IPL FORM, IPL FORM, IPL FORM! "Murali Vijay should be picked because he played well in the IPL."...what?...(India got knocked out of the super 8's again....without a win...again?....the IPL doesn't provide real form?....ok....Go back to the Cricinfo article where it said Sehwag was injured and you'll see everyone there say Uthappa or Vijay should be picked as his replacement because of the IPL. REALITY CHECK...the IPL provides almost NOTHING else for a player apart from exposure to a wider audience. Playing well in the IPL, when hosted in India, is pretty meaningless on bowler-friendly pitches, so before you all say Kohli or someone else should have been picked, don't pick them based on temporary form. I wouldn't be surprised to see if aAll of the Vijay fans go into hiding whilst the Uthappa fans complaining that he should have picked instead. One couldn't step up and the other has had more chances to do so and hasn't. I stand by Saurabh Tiwary or Shikhar Dhawan being the 1st choice.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:55 GMT)

Now indians are exposed badly when none of world champions player was auctioned for their IPL. so practically IPL 2010 was with out quality player and a biggest failure apart from glamor lacking game. as vikram said in above comments " The ipl was an all-style-no-substance drama" Indian side showed no respect for the tournament and disappointed not only Indian nation but all crick lovers,,

Posted by rtom on (May 12, 2010, 10:54 GMT)

Couple of days back i said in the same form that " this indian team sucks" !!

Posted by ushakiran on (May 12, 2010, 10:47 GMT)

another flop show frm india. if we have to be no.1 in cricket we have to perform well in overseas like as ganguly& his guys did.and then i would like ti say abt dhoni.after we won 1st t20 wc every one prise he was best captain in india.hahahahaha........that was his first tour as a captain.if you dont have experience how would u be as best captain.he don't hve best captain quality.just he have big big luck is there.i think u guys understand i hate dhoni. yesssssssssss u are correct. I HATE DHONI.

Posted by RahulTheDude on (May 12, 2010, 10:41 GMT)

I think one should appreciate Dhoni's reason of fatigue due to IPL. The players have little choice with so many T20's and ODI's packed in the schedule year after year. The longitivity of players is going to reduce and soon we will find cricket players retiring at 25 like in Tennis.Injury due to over strain and lack of proper rest will add to the woes of the criketers.Ofcourse in that case the players should inform the Board of the fact and rest themselves so that fitter players can play.But then is that the solution. Should we not have the best players for internation tournaments representing the country?The Board should apply their resources to find an answer to this else , the world ODI cup in 2011 will also go the same way.

Posted by WestG on (May 12, 2010, 10:41 GMT)

Don't blame - 1. IPL - MLB is a big thing in US and often they fail when they play as a single unit against less known countries. That means there is no quality in MLB? 2. Match Practice - LOL, they won their first two group matches. 3. Team Selection - Could be better but remember Ojha and Uthappa started playing well after t20 squad is already selected. Stop picking occasional match winners like Pathan, Yuvraj. Moderate performers like Rayudu and others add more value. 4. Short Pitch Bowling - Nothing new. They have to live with it and when you have separate teams for different formats, they expose more. It's one of those tournaments where you didn't play well and other teams did. Just accept the fact and move on. BTW, T20 WC Format sucks - Look at Pakistan (could have happened to India or any other team easily). They just won one match (excluding the win against Bangladesh in group stage) and are in semis. Is there any other tournament in the world where you can reach semis

Posted by tri400 on (May 12, 2010, 10:38 GMT)

My theory (after India's World T20 exit): If a team wants to win the IPL, they should have bouncy pitches at their home ground and practice dealing with bouncers. The visiting teams will always loose!

Dont you agree?

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:32 GMT)


Posted by kssrikanth on (May 12, 2010, 10:31 GMT)

i feel very sorry 4 india.ban the stupid ipl.

Posted by ultimatewarrior on (May 12, 2010, 10:30 GMT)

India's batting once again showed what they actually are without sachin/dravid/laxman/sehwag on bowler friendly pitches. There is no alternate to prepare atleast "ONE" fast pitch in india to test indian batsmen before selection. Further to prepare atleast 5 fast bowlers with geniune pace (not with speed of cycle running on highway). This should be implemented as soon as possible otherwise after retirement of sachin/dravid/laxman/sehwag India's no.1 test status will also in danger. And I don't know when this region biased selection committee's Era will be over.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:29 GMT)

forget all the reasons !! ... "INDIANs ARE LIONS AT HOME , LAMBS ABROAD" the reason for this is that Indians at home prepare pitches supporting their batting , and take all the home advantage as they hav all their men preparing pitches and stuff,FAVOURTISM is done at its BEST at INDIAN GROUND and in result they challenge all the great world Records made by other players... for example SACHIN's 200* ,

Posted by Kaushalya_Gurudeniya on (May 12, 2010, 10:27 GMT)

Squad selection is the problem for India.

My team India for this WC and for the next

1. Virendra Shewag 2. Sachin Tendulkar (If he is available)/Gauthem Gambier 3. Suresh Raina 4. Rohit Sharma 5. Ambati Rayudu 6. M.S. Dhoni 7. Saurabh Tiwary 8. Pragyan Ojha / Amit Mishra 9. Harbajan Singh 10. Zaheer Khan 11. Find another good fast bowler

Posted by Tom1m on (May 12, 2010, 10:23 GMT)

Blaming the IPL for all the ills that affect the Indian team and India itself appears to be a fashion these days. I am deeply disappointed that India are out of the WC, blaming IPL is not the answer. The Indian players need to show more commitment. The selectors need to think clearly (think Robin Uttapa, Manish Pandey, Virat Kohli..). Utappa is not even in the team to Zimbabwe???!!!! People who blame the IPL are mostly those who are fustrated that they cannot make money out of it like many others are doing. The IPL is a tournament that made people sit up and notice the ingenuity of Indians and our organizational capabilities. The fact that there is controvery regarding many IPL deals is one dimension of India which we have to deal with. Stopping IPL is not the answer. There was no IPL when India exited from the 2007 ODI World Cup early.

Posted by lone_purist on (May 12, 2010, 10:20 GMT)

For someone who is equally shocked at India's performance, all I can say is that IPL has created itself as a raunchier, base, low quality form of cricket for the masses (particularly in India). it is "porn for cricket" is exciting most of the times but tires you. Or at least the Bollywood version of cricket. Bollywood doesnt have anything original to offer; it repacks US, Pakistani or even Middle Eastern movies / TV series and offer it to the masses. IPL has its days numbered.

Posted by timelord24 on (May 12, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

i just have one question for MSD. he kept on saying that batting was our strength. then why the hell did we decide to defend a total rather than chase it? yuvraj singh and zaheer must be dropped. unless yuvi can lose and some weight and look like an international cricketer, he must not be selected again. lets drop him and see if he has the hunger to win back his place in the team.i am sick and tired of inconsistent team selection. pragyan ojha must be the second specialist spinner in the team. when you select only 3 bowlers, batting only will be your strength. if u want to strengthen your bowling, select more bowlers!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am sick and tired of wrong team selection nullifying our chances.

Posted by arvindram on (May 12, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

How many times has England won the soccer world cup since the start of the English Premier League?

Posted by Nijnoz on (May 12, 2010, 10:15 GMT)

Look at the Aussie line up and their main destroyers: Nannes , Tait, Watson, Warner, Hussey (x2) all played in the IPL with some of them only partly due the tour with the Aus Team. Only Mitchell Johnson didn't play in the IPL but he was in desperate need for some artwork on his arm. Smith is promising but lacks experience and reputation. Harris and Clarke didn't play IPL and are basically on the fringes. So how come these star and the Indians falter? All the excuses with the IPL cricket are simply pathetic and unfounded.

Posted by donthaveaclue on (May 12, 2010, 10:07 GMT)

We can only hope that the performance against the Lankans was because of being overawed by the situation and therefore not performing to potential. From 90/1 in 10 to 163 at the close should raise more than a few eyebrows. This after the captain promoted himself to #4 to then play 19 balls for 23 runs. Was it something more sinister or are India simply that bad?

Posted by vivekk83 on (May 12, 2010, 10:04 GMT)

Nice article Monga! i enjoyed reading it... its quite hard to understand the kind of comments that have been pouring in.. i am not defending their performance which was there for everyone to see,.. but the hue & cry made over by people for loosing in a format which the purists don't like.... every team has a problem SA ,Wi aren't good against spin... it took a long time for aussies to conquer the subcontinent territory as there was an effort by their boards.... If it's anybody to criticize, its the board who have been making all the money and producing substandard wickets.. I hate ODI's in india coz there is no contest between bat and ball 340 + has been the norm here... we flock to the grounds and come back disappointed if we see a seaming wicket where the team is knocked out for 150-200, boo players if we don't see a six or four every over.. BTW for all who asked where is Robbie.. he is undergoing a surgery per a news website and hence wasn't picked

Posted by SKMH on (May 12, 2010, 10:03 GMT)

indian team- play ipl and do ads forget about internation game. its not ur part.

Posted by Parth_Pala on (May 12, 2010, 10:02 GMT)

Did anyone seriously believe India was going to win? Most of our players came into this tournament unfit spending a good 5 weeks in the IPL playing on sub par pitches , which was then followed by late night partying. The team has spent the better part of the last year playing on lifeless dust bowls against SL and Bangladesh. None of the players have spent a season or two in the county circuit, which the likes of Dravid and Tendulkar did regularly hence their ability to cope with the short ball. The team is full of nepotism, where likes of Virat Kohli and Robin Uthappa are left out in place fringe players and part times like Jadeja Vijay and Yusuf are brought in. Indian pitches don't help where the same crowds who criticise the team for losing, cheer the 300+ pitches made to thrill. BCCI and the average Indian fan has ruined Indian cricket, too much reverence for average players and medicore ability. PS: teams which had players who did not play the IPL seem to be the finalists.

Posted by plmx on (May 12, 2010, 9:54 GMT)

You say..."India's IPL stars have been exposed at the World Twenty20 again. Apart from technical shortcomings, it suggests a shocking lack of respect for the international game and its challenges".

Is this true? You seem to imply that the Indians could play better if they tried but just couldn't be bothered!! We on the other hand feel the the Indian "stars" played the best they could but were just not good enough at the T20 international level. I think their dismal record supports this fact. Your politeness doesn't help the indians in the long run as the excuses for losing appears justified to them. A country of a billion people, most of them cricket mad, surely deserves better.

Posted by six_and_out on (May 12, 2010, 9:53 GMT)

i think this article is written more with anger than with objectivity. Yes the IPL is one of the reasons but definately not all of it.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 9:49 GMT)


It means when India play in India, no team can beat them but outside India it is vice versa. This team must have been accomapnied by senior most players like Sachin, Dravid and Laxman.

Posted by Danishiqbal543 on (May 12, 2010, 9:48 GMT)

i think IPL is hurting very badly to them. all the teams know there strength and weaknesses and they plan accordingly.

Posted by Pak_Champz on (May 12, 2010, 9:48 GMT)

IPL - i Will call it Curropt League ...well first of All How Long will dhoni run on his luck ..anyways ...people get dirty money cleaned up ... anyways ..i will only SAY shame shame... that was not what was expected from indians ... its realy cheap outing for them... Well all i will say is that indian can only play at there home that what stats even say ... So Called Champions

Posted by iplvis on (May 12, 2010, 9:37 GMT)

Hats off to Sidharth Monga for having compiled such an eye-opening article. The title is apt and the contents provide more insight into what the current crop of so-called Indian "International' cricketers really are up to. The fashion in which the team played yesterday was irresponsible to say the least. Not long ago, the Indian teams would provide their best in crunch matches and then go on to win the tournament. But, yesterday was the worst. They had a clear target in front of them and they did not even make an effort to defend 163, let alone 143 required for them to qualify. The body language was horrible and casual from the beginning of SL innings. I seriously hope these new Indian cricketers should be considered for IPL only if they retain their focus for international matches. Else, I don't see Indian cricket flourishing beyond the likes of Sachin, Dravid, Laxman and Sehwag, who will always remain role models.

Posted by Chris_P on (May 12, 2010, 9:29 GMT)

Let's face it. The IPL is basically not much better than park cricket. The pitches are a joke, apart from a few quality internationals, the fielding is abysmal. The fielding standards witnessed throughout IPL3 made me shudder in total bewilderment. These guys wouldn't get a start with a lot of grade teams over here. The techniques shown by the "new blood" is poor. I was actually quite shocked to see this as there has been 3 outstanding examples in Sachin, Dravid & Sehwag to model themselves in correct batting technique. To witness the Windies medium pacers perform like the Windies fast bowlers of old against was almost humourus. Indian fans, get yourselves ready for some huge disapppointments when the big 3 retire. Your replacements are not up t scratch. The BCCI should get broadcast rights to the 2 week "Bg Bash" T20 event in Australia over December January. The quality is amazing, the standards are high and you will be witnessing the next generation Aussie & IPL cricketers.

Posted by ar38uk on (May 12, 2010, 9:28 GMT)

Stick to the much media hyped IPL series guys that's all your good for Team India. Take a look at your real cricket accomplishments...a fluke win in the very first T20 competition down to an irresponsible shot from Misbah-ul-Haq..otherwise you would have lost that one as well!!

Very early exit from the 2007 champions trophy competition? Not a single win in this or the last T20 World Cup tournaments. The only successful match that you had in this years tournament was against the new kids on the block - Afghanistan.

Need I say more......stick to your infamous IPL at the comfort of your home and leave the serious and professional game of cricket to the others. Have a great trip back home, I'm sure everyone at home will enjoy your holiday snaps:):)

Posted by Afta on (May 12, 2010, 9:25 GMT)

Don't complain India. You have the talent coupled with a little arrogance and maybe that was the undoing. Remember Dhoni's comments after the IPL "We have had enough preparation, we don't need any practice matches". India is only good in their own den, that's the truth. The indications in the IPL is no yardstick to measure performances in the international arena. Sorry India better luck next time.

Posted by Chiita on (May 12, 2010, 9:22 GMT)

India got serious beating this tournament, so all the IPL practice is just a waste, or they training other team players against themselves. The strategy needs to reconsidered. IPL was suppose to be talent hunt as well. It is such a major event they should pick up team not necessarily the player should be with an international cap, they can play there debut in the world cup. I agreed 100 % "Thanks for coming, India"

Posted by hotmale on (May 12, 2010, 9:20 GMT)

This IPL thing will finish Indian cricket. There was no point of IPL just before T20 W. Cup. Every player was looking tired and uninterested in winning any game. All those people responsible for this debacle should be punished. I dont understand why Irfan pathan was not selected. He was the perfect bowler for these type of tracks. I dont understand why Indian didnt opted for few more specialist spin bowlers. I saw Ashwin in IPL (the guy who bowled first over for Chennai S. kings). He should have been selected, I think he would have given lot of trouble to opponents. Harbhajan was fantastic and he showed that it is not easy to play a great spin bowler not matter what conditions are.

I wrote earlier that Pakistan should induct Abdul rehman in team and Pakistan will cruise in T20 Cup. You can see that with Abdul rehman in our side, our team looks different. I believe if Uthappa, Ashwin & Irfan would have played this T20 cup, Indian performance would have been great.

Posted by al2qb on (May 12, 2010, 9:19 GMT)

i agree with swapnlip, if 5 batsmen and 1 keeper cant score enuff runs in 20 over game then its just better not to play at all, india have been well below par in this tournament, thanks to a raina hundred on a dead pitch we managed to beat an all out of sorts south africa or else even that wouldnt have happened, i dont belive the afghanistan win was as comprehensive as it should have been either, for the 2nd time we've fallen well short and just shows how the 2007 now seems to be a fluke or just one time things because yuvraj was in good form at that time. india lacks fast bowling thats just a smiple fact theyr just making do with nehra and zaheer khan the fact is that theyr not world class material nor are the kumars. i wouldnt even thank india for coming wat a waste of time to watch such a boring and predictable team led by a captain so full of himself for nothing, time to replace mr.dhoni whos arrogance is just annoying now.

Posted by brlara on (May 12, 2010, 9:16 GMT)

Few interesting things here,, IPL has started on March 12th I guess. Till May 11th 2010 an approximate of 60 days,, Suresh Raina and Harbhajan has played 14 league matches plus 1 semifinal and a final. Total of 16 IPL matches and 5 T20 World cup matches,, 21 matches in 60 days along with atleast 2 to 3 weeks of travel time,,,, Is this a good thing for Indian cricket? Do not forget we have other players like Yuvraj, Rohit, Yusuf pathan, aashish nehra, zaheer khan, who played around 16 to 17 matches in this 60 days with a minor injury here and there within themselves. For a change,,,, the following would be the right judgement "LET THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT SACK ALL THE 110 CRORES VIEWERS OF INDIA FOR WATCHING SOME POOR CRICKET FROM INDIAN TEAM" . As we are responsible for all the bloody hell which is happening around us. Wait, wait ,,, someone is asking me in my phone when the next series is gonna happen for India,, We Indians forgive the sins very quickly and I am one in that bunch,

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 9:13 GMT)

One Of the Best articles i have read.....i hope these Indian cricketers and so called indian cricket care takers and administraion reads this.....we are sick and tired of listening to Dhoni's CRAP...all the time....go and learn how to play bouncers then if you cant you are not fit for international have enough money to do so and get the right equipment...I rememba when Rohit Sharma such a talented GUy as once Said by SRT...dint get to play for india for almost two years because he opened and got out to bouncers...Deccan has shined only they show him respect and have faith in them rather than Mr Dhoni favouring jadeja all the time...i f you give as many chances you gave to jadeja rohit will also learn and become a star....ITS HIGH TIME WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT INDIAS SELECTION COMMITTEE ...I THINK CHIKA is all but gone.....

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 9:12 GMT)

Pathetic display, over confident paid off heavily once again, the responsibility level was zero! Sack this team BCCI, look for new Indian team! Players like Gambhir, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Nehra, Yusuf, Zaheer Khan do not deserve to be in Indian side anymore! I Request BCCI fire Nehra, Dhoni, Gambhir and Yuvraj immediately!! Pathetic! Pathetic! Pathetic!

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 9:05 GMT)

IPL will obviously not affect you...because of the money....yeah MR DHONI...yes INDIA is a big nation and cricket is our religion ...For GOD sake you are expected to win and perform...what do you mean we already are under so much of pressure.and you are expected to win everytime..of course..if you won the last three worldcups we will think that..ok may be better luck next time ...but you know better how indian team performed...YOU ARE EXPECTED TO WIN...BCCI is one of the richest and you for GOD sake are one of the highest paid cricketers....BCCI please tame INdian players on time bode in INDIA will watch cricket anymore or support INdia anymore....AND one more thing before WORLD CUPs Indian team shoul be together and planning against players and other teams...But I seriously think something is not right within the players

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 9:04 GMT)

TEAMS like Australia and i am very impressed with ENGLAND this time...they learn from previous mistakes and never say OOOO wel Batting is our strenght or Bowling is our strength ....we were outplayed..thwy executed their plans well against us...WELL this what INDIA had to say last time...what did they do...PLAY IPL....the player before going into such a big tournament are playing against eachother and not making a stragey for different teams...BCCI stop pretending that your eyes are closed..WELL INDIAN GREATS LIKE RAVI and GAVSKAR should step in here rather than commentating in the Box..i think DHONI has some attitude problem seriousl...Gambhir not performing as he used to..he is not enjoying his time...Yuvraj for sure..something is wrong with him...and Sehwag we all know...and now i think its with ZAHEER ....i would just like to say to BCCI the fans are not foolish and if you have the brain we have it too.....

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 9:04 GMT)

Common Guys....what is going on here....Mr Dhoni ie trying to say that INDIAN fans are FOOLS...they dont undesratand a thing...After he elimination HE is saying they executed their plans well...WHAT abt yours Mr Dhoni.....why does he come up with the same lame excuse all the time...tHEY outplayed us ...BAtting is our Strength...God i am sick and tired of hearing this...IS India an international team or Some Gully cricket team...For international cricket you should be GOOD in all three departments....everytime INDIA lost ...he said batting is our strenght we dint bat well...what about bowling man it is equally important...He always says IPL has nothing to do with it...did anyone see the intensity he played with when he won against PUNJAB...he punched himself...but here HE IS MR. COOL... i am not blaming him he is a good captain...but i think he is got some attitude problem with senior players..Common INDIA we living outside INDIA are facing enough embarrassment because of you guys

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (May 12, 2010, 8:58 GMT)

Contrasting feelings on the same day. On one side Vishwanathan Anand successfully defends his world championship title and on the other side Indian cricket team is knocked out due to pathetic performances. Both got what they deserved!

Posted by mohdshujathali on (May 12, 2010, 8:57 GMT)

Please kindly select a better team for a World cup ,in India all the team selection is on State based Why Murli Vijay,Yuvraj Singh,YP, has been given a place when we have inform Robin Uthappa or Irfan Pathan who is the better allrounder in India than any other players like Piyush Chawla or Ravindra time select players on Ability not on their fame and it is time for India to look for a new captain and the IPL should be stopped or else Indian team will be just a formality to attend International tournaments.

Posted by anonymousfan on (May 12, 2010, 8:57 GMT)

Eagerly waiting to see India travel to Australia, South Africa and England. Should be good fun.

Posted by TheUglyTruth on (May 12, 2010, 8:53 GMT)

Give me a break!!! I find it hilarious that ppl are attributing late night partying in the ipl to the indian performance NOW. It would b more shameful if athletes of their calibre take that long to recover from a night out. Or maybe it takes more than a few weeks to get sobre again? Not to mention blaming the ipl for fatigue. Yes im sure it contributed. But as some ppl rightly commented below, guess what? Indian players arnt the only ones in the ipl. What about watson, warner, mahela, malinga (played as a fast bowler right upto the finals), sangakkara, Nannes, Matthews, Keiswetter, Lumb, Pieterson, (the list goes on). All at the top of their game in this t20 tournament and whose teams made it to the final 4. Stop harassing Dhoni as a bad captain. Nt long ago, he was the best possible captain a team could have (captain cool alongside Gayle). Quite simply, Indias downfall are their own egos. Stop making them out to be Gods. The moment they respect their opposition, thts when theyl win!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 8:52 GMT)

They are playing with the sentiments of people of India. Reasons for Defeat Poor Team Selection Stubborn Dhoni Poor Tactics Over-dependence on Jadeja and part timers Lack of Intent in First Six Overs The team should be selected purely on the performance basis.

Posted by Dhushan on (May 12, 2010, 8:52 GMT)

Excellent article Mr. Monga. You sum up everything. IPL = Hit and giggle league. You hit the nail right in the head mate. When Dhoni took up the captaincy of the Indian team, he kept winning matches & series in ODI's as well as Tests & then won the 1st ICC World T20 with a young team. Indian commentators even started calling him Captain Cool taking the real Captain Cool Arjuna Ranatunga's name. Same has to be said about Gary Kirsten. India started winning many matches after he took over the reigns & Indian players & commentators started praising him saying he doesn't change anything in the players but lets them play their own game. With all due respect to both of them, what's happening now? Did they not practice against the short ball? They MUST/SHOULD have talked about this before the tournament. Dhoni is running out of excuses & they are both in the hot seat now. BCCI should rethink scheduling the IPL before a global event.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 8:49 GMT)

I think the indian captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni ... is not at all encouraging his players to play up to the mark...

Posted by Ravs1504 on (May 12, 2010, 8:47 GMT)

No class only Grass if someone was somking.. to expect india to win was dream.. Thouroughly dissapointing/unprofessional/lethargic performance. To expect these guys to beat well oiled team in australia is pure stupidity.. i had admired dhoni for being "cool" but looks like he's become so cool now that it doesn't bother him that if they loose that it should bother them.. the way they played it looked like getting defeated is not a big deal.. stupid strokes were played against seemed to be intersted in chasing down the target.. don't know why such players have fan following when they dont' care about their fans..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 8:46 GMT)

To sum it all up:

Indian Cricketers play for $ Rest of the world plays for PRIDE

Posted by ganymide on (May 12, 2010, 8:46 GMT)

commonsense points to BCCI 1)Try to conduct IPL in Jan/Feb/Mar, don't conduct in Mid April to June (despite of huge revenue due to summer holidays).

2)conduct min. 1month camps before all international worldcups. 3)Put cap in no. of matches one player can play, they;ve to prepare international calender and also player calender. So maintain calender in scientificway (not commercial way). 4)For last 3 decades, BCCI keep saying and failing, why don't prepare bouncy pitches and each player should play min. 500 hours on all types of conditions. So they don't surprise when they go to diff. countries and pitches.

5)why they don't conduct fast bowling selection in under-15,19,22 level? without investing huge money, how they'll get fast bowlers. BCCI should not act like a film distribution company, they should invest in talent search, that system will produce stars like Lilly, Marshall. So far we've Ishant and age old zaheer, both are now in shed.

Posted by kristokris on (May 12, 2010, 8:37 GMT)

India's bowling is pathetic at best!. India doesnt have a pace bowler who can consistently rack the opposition with speed and bounce. If India had guys who could bowl l fast like Windies and Australia in the 145-150 speed range, then on the Barbados pitch we could have done some damage to Aus and Windies batsmen as well. Instead we have Zaheer & Nehra who could be tonked easily even on those pitches. Why play this game when a population of 1 billion can't even produce a world class express fast bowler.

Posted by thejuskrishna on (May 12, 2010, 8:32 GMT)

Why Indians were knocked out? 1) Didn't pick the right team. Murali Vijay was taken instead of Uthappa. Big mistake made by the selectors. Seeing the Indians struggling against the Aussies, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman would have committed suicide!! 2) Problems in playing XI. No clue in batting order. A player like Yusuf is placed at 7. The powerplay has to be used efficiently. Jadeja was clearly out of form and Dhoni continued with him. Umesh Yadav was not at all tried when all the other quickies of other teams were dancing around the batters. Yuvraj neither did play the IPL nor the WCT20 to his potential. Still he remained in the team. 3) IPL problems: Players had no rest because they gave their 200% for the "MONEY" league. We lost players like Sehwag and Praveen Kumar who can be helpful in these tracks. 4) Pitch: Indian pitches will never help the players when they go abroad. We play on flat, dry tracks with no help for the quicks. Many more reasons but 1000 characters not enough!!!!

Posted by Ajayvs on (May 12, 2010, 8:25 GMT)

Our Players are not good pullers and hookers of the ball and unfortunately T20 does not allow the indian players to leave the short stuff alone.Are the players to be entirely blamed for this debacle,the answer is no.The main issue is with the BCCI.They should start investing their time and money on preparing fast and bouncy pitches for domestic games.If India hopes to do consistently well alll around the world,iam afraid that is the only way out.You cannot expect the players to become great backfoot players after they have reached international stage within a short span of time.

Having said the above however there are few things which can be immediately fixed:- 1)Dhoni and the team management should drop the rigid mindset that only a certain players can perform.Unfortunately in the recent past many of the players selected have been mere passengers. 2)The players should be made accountable.What will hurt the indian fans most from the match yesterday was the lack of desperation.

Posted by ticktac on (May 12, 2010, 8:23 GMT)

cant agree more with the writer that it is seemingly shocking such a lack of respect for intl cricket and complacency by the players and especially the captain. Dhoni tried to apply same tactics here of playing extra batsman and trying to do with non regular bowler like jadeja which cost India big time. another reason is not learning from mistakes and not being prepared for short deliveries and last but not the least, the pathetic team selection by a pathetic selector

Posted by HyderabadNawabs on (May 12, 2010, 8:17 GMT)

After match against KingsXIPunjab in dharmsala Dhoni commented that "" It was an emotional moment. Your franchise pays so much money for you, you should at least make the semifinals. After that you can say it is a lottery" . Dont he think BCCI is also giving money and he is playing for India .

Posted by Adamsdodo on (May 12, 2010, 8:15 GMT)

well the main problem was india lacked the flame of SEHWAG in the top order...without sehwag, gambhir seemed to be under too much fact no one cud utilize the power play the fact is India have to luk for a next Sehwag who can replace him when required..i feel this debacle is largely due to the absence of sehwag

Posted by sachin300 on (May 12, 2010, 8:15 GMT)

...In T20 it is very important to have 8-ball-20 type innings and of all teams India is not aware of this. They were playing almost classical cricket and hoping that bowlers will make mistake as they are used to in IPL. When Dhoni says even his well set batsmen could not score, I want to ask him how did they try to score? Did anyone move across the stumps? or walks down the track? Did the 'well set' batsmen try to unsattle the bowlers line/length by trying something 'T20ish'. Answer is NO, they were standing in the crease receiving the yorkers and making them look unplayable. Why didn't they try Harbhajan or YP at no. 3 to get some quick runs? Given that there regular batsmen are so scared to get out that they dont take any risk. I want Pak to win this T20, then it would justify why those players were not selected in IPL teams... because Pak players are of higher standard than IPL :).

Posted by Faisalrahman on (May 12, 2010, 8:13 GMT)

Good One! But i dont think our players will have time to read this article! As a Indian citizen and Fan i believe that most of our players are not compatitive to play Internationals. See the way Gambir tried to play the short balls! Despite of his Test Cap he keeps his head down when he hook the bouncers! I think school boys will have better approach than this poor guy!. Look at the way we faced Malinga and compare to Australian players tactics against same bowler. So its very clear that they didn't have any kind of home work.Secondly, the bowling department!Its a truth that we dont have a single bowler with international standard.BCCI needs understand that they should look in to the consistancy of players very seriously before they select for internationals. If there is no conisistancy please do not consider him. The selectors should watch players's technical aspects rather than their 'lightening innings'! Such innings happens only once in a blue moon.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 8:10 GMT)

Its been a disaster the way Indians played. Mistakes were made at the selection to execution which led to this disgrace. Players like R.Jadeja, Y.Singh, Gambhir & Yusuf Pathan struggled to the core. Batsmen couldnt survive on the bouncy tracks. Indians are "so called" the best bastmen in the world was proven wrong. Selection commitee hadnt seen the players form before the selction. Players had their confidence at zero level, had lost the match before losing. The player which has been worst in the tournament was R.Jadeja, but the captain made him played 3 matches when there were likes of Chawla and V Kumar sitting in the dug out. M.Vijay's performance also lacked ignition that was present in the IPL. Playing with 7 batsmen also left the batting line up in the swamp. Lacked confidence and also team work.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 8:08 GMT)

Its been a disaster the way Indians played. Mistakes were made at the selection to execution which led to this disgrace. Players like R.Jadeja, Y.Singh, Gambhir & Yusuf Pathan struggled to the core. Batsmen couldnt survive on the bouncy tracks. Indians are "so called" the best bastmen in the world was proven wrong. Selection commitee hadnt seen the players form before the selction. Players had their confidence at zero level, had lost the match before losing. The player which has been wordt in the tournament was R.Jadeja, but the captain made him played 3 matches when there were like of Chawla and V Kumar sitting in the dug out. M.Vijay's performance also lacked ignition that was present in the IPL. Playing with 7 batsmen also left the batting line up in the swamp. Lacked confidence and also team work.

Posted by nomikshah on (May 12, 2010, 8:05 GMT)

India has played the master stroke by making the ICC World Cup come to the subcontinent in 2011. Means they can advance past the opening round. Play any place else and they would be knocked out in the first round. Pakistan too. Its a pain watching pathetic bowling and mediocre batting being flattered on substandard flat pitches.

Posted by sachin300 on (May 12, 2010, 8:05 GMT)

Let me present another point of view (i guess it is the indian players point of view now): if IPL is paying the players so well why do they need to play well at ICC tournaments? Unless you are a Tendulkar who tries to stay focused on run-scoring despite getting lot of money. I am sure the target of many youngsters now a days is to become an IPL player. Each team played 14 matches in IPL, why didn't the key players take rest in some of those matches? when they knew that T20 WC is around the corner. What I find absolutely shocking is that these guys who played 50-odd T20 games seem to be completely unaware of the T20-ways! When india were 90/1 after 10 what did they do for next 5 overs? they took risk-free singles off spinners. You want to win T20 and you want to win it by 20 runs then you can not play a safe game! Why they did not try to unsattle the bowlers from 10.1 over onwards? ... to be continued...

Posted by Cricket__sri on (May 12, 2010, 8:02 GMT)

i agree with the author...the indians in the presnt squad r not gud in hitting short n bouncer deliveries. sehwag's presence would ve made some difference i think.however,dhoni's decision of extra batsman wasn't good n the skipper didn't have cinfidence in vinay kumar(pace he could bat a bit n field well) but he trusted jadeja(unfit fielder,slow bowler,not that much gud with bat) . i don't understand why dhoni opted 4 jadeja instead of vinay in bouncy tracks.if he feels he need slow/spin bowler ,he could've got in chawla,who ll do his job well with the ball.alright,no offence against the team..even the captain cant play the short ball in a better way,how 2 blame others!lol...definetly missed VIRU...PK in bowling the new ball

Posted by ajaydesai on (May 12, 2010, 8:02 GMT)

When you select team on favouritism, this what you expect. Yuvraj, Zaheer, M. Vijay did not contribute signficantly in IPL but were still selected. Irfan Pathan, Robin who played consistently were selected. Thanks to Mr.Srikanth and Party. Good luck to India next tme

Posted by sv_84 on (May 12, 2010, 8:00 GMT)

1) India should try fielding an all pace squad in T-20s. Umesh Yadav, Dinda, Jaydev Unadkat, Kamran Khan all bowled at decent pace in IPL. What if all four are tried in the same squad. Indian bowling lacks the fire power to snatch wickets out of the opposition. Playing too many spinners leaves the team at the mercy of the opposition batting lineup.

2) Mediocres, of the likes of Ravindra Jadeja, who seem to have been included due to Dhoni's penchant for left hand spinners, should be eliminated. It is no use of having allrounders in the team only for namesake.

3) India's saving grace are Gambhir and Raina. Gambhir, though extremely talented, is too light and small to pull a bouncer for six. He needs to build more muscle if possible. Raina has the talent and potential to play bounce well if he practices.

4) Dhoni needs to come out of the shell he has weaved around himself. He can't blame his inability to hit sixes when most needed to the burden of responsibility.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:55 GMT)

Sincere advice to all INDIANS....Stop taking the IPL as a unit of measuring player performance as it is only entertainment on dead pitches/smaller boundaries/mediocre domestic bowling attacks...If you take out IPL performance you'll find the real technical reasons for the defeat..AND stop making excuses like fatigue/improper selection and blaming other countries....All other nations had these as well....they were given a team and told to perform... So of you stop complaining and start rebuilding a proper team with technically proper batsman, (like the old Indians - Dravid/Laxman and not beg them to come back) you'll atleast succeed in the future..Good Day..

Posted by cricxpert on (May 12, 2010, 7:54 GMT)

India 11- 20 overs 73 runs...SL 10-20 overs 109 runs..n pitch was deteriorating...LOL

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:54 GMT)

Sincere advice to all INDIANS....Stop taking the IPL as a unit of measuring player performance as it is only entertainment on dead pitches/smaller boundaries/mediocre domestic bowling attacks...If you take out IPL performance you'll find the real technical reasons for the defeat..AND stop making excuses like fatigue/improper selection and blaming other countries....All other nations had these as well....they were given a team and told to perform... So of you stop complaining and start rebuilding a proper team with technically proper batsman, (like the old Indians - Dravid/Laxman and not beg them to come back) you'll atleast succeed in the future..Good Day..

Posted by Levi on (May 12, 2010, 7:54 GMT)

Great article Sidharth, good insight as always. I must admit as an English poster it is very surprising to see so many negative IPL comments all of a sudden. I have been lambasted by many an Indian Cricket blogger for England to wake up and smell the future of cricket, stop thinking we are better than India at T20 and many other poor comments about being English in an Indian cricket world. I cant help thinking that the poor Indian performances were linked with the IPL and the embarrassment it has bought to Indian cricket and their fans.

Posted by Navin84 on (May 12, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

The BCCI set the IPL so that it falls just b4 the World T20 tournament as they did the 2 previous times. It worked well the 1st year, however, it has back fired in the last 2 mainly because of the amount of IPL matches that are being played and come next year with more matches, India would be literary "dead" if they fix it b4 the world T20 tournament next year again. The selectors picked the squad even b4 the IPL was 1/2 way through so they did not get the see all the talents to pick a full strength sqaud. Why was Jadeja in the sqaud, India are relying on fame players, like Pathan, Gambhir, Yuvraj etc, none of these had a good IPL and it continued in the world T20. I hope the BCCI would learn their lessons now.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:51 GMT)

Well Sidharth Monga may be correct but i believe BCCI should influence ICC to change the following rules:

1) reduce Bouncer height from head to "below hip". 2) If a bowler bowls two bouncers then he should be banned to bowl from rest of match

Posted by SRKatik on (May 12, 2010, 7:51 GMT)

Please ban IPL to make future of cricket to look better.

Posted by Messyinamess on (May 12, 2010, 7:49 GMT)

India as always, comes into a tournament with sky rocketed expectations from nowhere, agreed there are only around 8 to 9 test playing nations in the cricketing world but to be put on top of the Aussies or at least their equivalent is really a little over the top, no one has any idea why they are so over rated!! The media probably has a role to play here, initially spreading out the red carpet and then showing them the broomstick, followed with the brickbats. What India could do with is a lot of criticism just so that they understand the importance of playing the game with a lot more enthusiasm, even if they lose but only go down fighting. But be assured, none of this is ever going to happen if the BCCI, as commented by the writer for what they are, won't focus on developing cricketing standards in the country.

Posted by Amit_Cric_Crazy on (May 12, 2010, 7:44 GMT)

that is absolutely rite !!! India should learn to pay respect to international tournaments. how many times the captains keep repeating that "BOUNCER" excuse. they cant play bouncers, better not have such players in the team. Useless Gambhir is playing T20 like a street cricket, not grounding his bat. players like gambhir, yuvraj should be given a hiding, kept away frm intl matches. then there is Nehra, he is another "Agarkar". he is not learning from his mistakes, should be sacked for good. I can start to feel that if BCCI doesnt take a tough step this time, they will only regret if we have such players in the team. we critcize pakistan for all the various reasons but even after having almost all gud players out of the T20, they still manage to reach semis...SHAME ON INDIA !

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:42 GMT)

"Suresh Raina has reiterated that if he's not allowed to plonk the front foot down, all those heaved sixes and slog-sweeps become top edges that go nowhere: against Australia he nearly played on with an edge that could have hit a low-flying aircraft." - Hahahaa!! Awesome description! :D

Posted by prasanth.kongati on (May 12, 2010, 7:41 GMT)

@swapnilp i agree with all the points posted by you and to add more, Look at the attitude of Dhoni. He still considers himself granted and simply says that we have given our best. Once sachin, rahul and laxman walks away we are bound to see the same scene repeated in all the formats. UV is becoming more of afridi today, but good thing with afridi is he evolved as consistent in leg spin bowling. In my view UV is a liability to team and Gambhir seriuosly need break from international cricket for at least 6 months. YK pathan is never suitable for internatinal arena. Uthappa is a big miss from the tournament but he also relies more on flat-non-bouncy tracks and his technique to short ball is not so great either.

Posted by CricketMaan on (May 12, 2010, 7:39 GMT)

@Sid Mongia - Whatz the big deal losing WT20? Aren't we No.1 in Test and No.2 in ODI, T20 should be left to clubs so I fully support IPL, Big Bash and County or the SA League. It should never be played at international level, its a money spinner for ICC more than a respectful event so lets not go too far. We have failed in T20, so what, id rather prefer them winning a Test in windies than such meaningless futile tournament.

Posted by huzi_84 on (May 12, 2010, 7:37 GMT)

well summarized Mr Monga. As an avid Indian Cricket supporter...i feel very let down...but the players are just pawns in this big game...BCCI needs to take a leaf out of CA's book...strict player rules...guaranteed renumeration...expose players to international conditions...we just have to admit that players of yesteryears..the gavaskars...the kapil devs...sachins..they carried indian cricket on their bare shoulders...they inspired others to play...i dont see one inspirational player in todays team!! i wud never like to say 'i wanna play like yuvraj'...or 'i wanna be a yusuf pathan'...but yes all of us want to be a 'sachin' a 'dravid' or a 'kumble'! cuz they are the real heroes!

Posted by redneck on (May 12, 2010, 7:35 GMT)

here here mr monga! as an aussie cricket supporter i have heard about australia loosing its aura with no warne, mcgrath etc and all that. indias in the same boat their test team with the 4 laxman, sachin, dravid, & sehwag is far more formidable than the side that played in the 20/20 hit and giggle cup! nothing special about that side at all!

Posted by Easwar081086 on (May 12, 2010, 7:33 GMT)

Indian Premier League - 54th match Kings XI Punjab v Chennai Super Kings Chennai Super Kings won by 6 wickets (with 2 balls remaining)

MS Dhoni is the Man of the Match He says, "It's a tough game, you can't always perform, but if you perform in big games, you get that tag of being the pressure player. But the fact is, Raina and Badri set the chase up. It was an emotional moment.

Your franchise pays SO MUCH MONEY for you, you should AT LEAST make the SEMI-FINALS.

After that you can say it is a lottery. The kind of franchise we have got, the kind of team we have, we should have made it to the semi-finals before this game. So it was an emotional moment, at least for me."

Posted by papadumb on (May 12, 2010, 7:31 GMT)

Firstly most of the players were playing with a distinct lack of enthusiasm. Look at the likes of Yuvraj and Gautam who looked like they were there just to collect their salaries. Secondly the batsmen looked like they had no innovative thoughts in their minds and were batting purely out of memory. The SL batsmen thought of new ways to counter the Indian bowling by standing right back in the crease and then walking down the wicket now and then, But more glaring was MS's captaincy. Vinay Kumar bowled an exceptional over first up with a wicket and 2 runs and he is pormptly changed? MS decided to change ends for him after he has done so well from one end? Secondly the SL batsmen continued to milk the indian spinners in the square leg area with easy singles but MS did not put a fielder in to put any sort of pressure on them. MS needs to show some enthusiasm on the field ala Afridi who injects his zest in to his entire team. How do you motivate a team by being listless like MS

Posted by cricxpert on (May 12, 2010, 7:24 GMT)

Excellent Article Sid....Title .."Thanks for Coming, India" says it all. Indians were there on a vacation...Strolling in the Cricket Ground......beaches......sightseeing nature as well as others team to flourish..........Only time they were serious and played exceptional when they were playing with Country's Billion people Emotions.........

Posted by Chelsea2010 on (May 12, 2010, 7:11 GMT)

It seems to be that everyone expected India to make it to the semis which I find pretty darn hard to believe. Indian cricketers do not have the talent & skill required to bat against the short ball or run hard between the wickets or field well or bowl good line & length.... Its not about the IPL cause most foreign players also played and enjoyed late night parties.. We are not good enough to compete with the top sides.. Aussies have the aura of invincibility around them which we can never replicate and I think Dhoni eluded to that fact in the press conference when he said that we can't do much (which is true!)

I honestly believe that meaningless bilateral series against SL, Zim etc should be cancelled and our younger players should play in Australian and South African domestic leagues to not only learn how to play on bouncy wickets but also how to prepare for matches (which is extremely important in this day n age)

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:10 GMT)

Good one mate... Everyone knows that IPL is high on entertainment and low on cricketing quotient... its WWE (with all due respect to Vince McMahon, I am huge fan) of Cricketing world...I am not surprised by another lame excuse comes from Indian skipper... IPL took its toll (are you freaking out your mind)...who is forcing you to play in it...look at Aussies, Englishmen, they stayed away from it...Even if thats the case, why Sri Lankans are playing so well in this WC...Why dont they accept it, in last match he said we lost due to batting failure, this time its bowling...He is gotta be kidding, coz you dont score 160 odd, when have to win the match by 20 runs...Why not score 220 and put the match beyond, as he is already playing 7-8 batters...Also few ppl above me written about Tendulkar, Ganguly, VVS, Dravid and Kumble...Hey guys I am as Indian as you are, but all of them had played cricket for more than 10 years each...What have they won for country...

Posted by aryaman1994 on (May 12, 2010, 7:10 GMT)

wow, a lot of anger in this article. one or two points i disagree with; 1) i dont think its fair to blame suresh raina and call him a slow track bully. really, all hes had is one bad innings in the tournament; against australia. i thought he played well for his 32 against west indies. he played out the short ball and just as he was beginning to cash in, got out. that can happen sometimes. he scored at an average of above 40. 7 there is nothing wrong in being especial;ly good in certain types of tracks. 2)if practice matches could have made the diffearence between victory and loss, shouldnt india have won in england? they played 2 practice games then. i think wat hampered team india was the fact that they had all been playing in different teams and suddenly they entered the world cup. maybe next time we could look at some bilateral series before the world cup as a sort of a preparation, at last to get team spirit back within the team

Posted by Whitepebbles73 on (May 12, 2010, 7:03 GMT)

During the whole IPL coment. couldnt stop talking about MRF blip, if its the bowlers academy, why didnt indian team went there to practice for short picth del. I cant understand why indian team cant find a genuine fast bowler. Everyone knows barbados is a bouncy track before going there and yet to select a team with no one who got a nip is not right. Nehra got some wickets but thats becasue batsmen were slogging him, look at the wickets Nannies got fast, swing and variation. Need to rethink .... 6 losses in 6 in super 8 games is not very good result for team like India .... Better luck next time, these events need Team India firing, would have been great to see pakistan v india semi in st.lucia !!!

Posted by KP.. on (May 12, 2010, 7:02 GMT)

I don't know whether to blame IPL or IPL night Parties for the India's flop show in T20 world cup. Body language of the India players is like they are in no mood of playing or winning matches. Indian player purely lacks the dedication and commitment. See the Sacchin Ramesh Tendulkar, He is playing cricket for last 20 years still you see the same dedication and commitment from him in any form of the cricket. Player like sachin, Dravid, Kumble they play cricket by heart they enjoy playing cricket for country... Now a days Indian cricketer are Playing cricket only for Money. They play cricket only to earn money...They don't Enjoy playing cricket for country. Formula is simple.. Play in IPL, hit one or two century.... Come to limelight....Players will get good add (Advertising contract) contract....Good bank balance...That's it....Game over. They are playing only for money, they got money, Goal achieved n then no need to play cricket for country. i cant imagin the future of indian cricket.

Posted by love4crik on (May 12, 2010, 6:59 GMT)

There is no word called TEAM SPIRIT in the current Indian Team's dictionary!! What if we lose the first 2 Super 8 matches?? We have the last one left..this is the way they have been motivated by their captain MSD! Poor shot selection, poor batting order, sending Yuvraj in when there is 5 overs left & keeping down sharma & Yusuf..set of bad decisions from the captain..A kid can decide better than him at these crucial stages! My niece who is in his KG's says Yusuf should have come in now not Yuvraj!! What a disgrace to the nation, A billion fans is cheaper than a billion dollar for the cricketers now!! Ban the damn IPL!!

Posted by svrfremont on (May 12, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

Please dont blame IPL for this. I dont think we either had the batting or the bowling in this side.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

IPL and MONEY is the only reason. Just Look at pakistani team. They showed the spirit in do-or-die game. But on the other side indians were just off color. They didn't put any effort. So one can say Pakistan is successful in T20 WC because they don't play IPL.

Posted by svrfremont on (May 12, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

Please dont blame IPL for this. I dont think we either had the batting or the bowling in this side.

Posted by SUDHIKUL on (May 12, 2010, 6:57 GMT)

I really feel sad that this Indian team promised so much, but didn't deliver..... And it is not going to their head because they know, that even if they lose, the advertising companies wont stop casting them in their ads.....First of all, the BCCI should start the concept of Performance-based Pay.... If these players are paid 60 lakhs per year even if they do not perform, then they will never realise the feeling of their fans..... This is a high time India look seriously into their weakness against the short pitch bowling (this is only one of the many loopholes)....


Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

i am ashamed to call myself an indian after watching these bunch of spineless superstars play cricket. they are a disgrace to the beautiful game, and to the nation.

Posted by romilp on (May 12, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

I think a lesson to take away from this fiasco is to ensure that the Indian squad get enough rest and preperation for the 2011 world cup. T20 tournaments are not half as draining as the 50 over version. The BCCI should be careful when scheduling the next IPL and ensure that priority is given to the national side winning important tournaments.

Posted by Swinnguy on (May 12, 2010, 6:56 GMT)

India needs genuine fast bowlers and exceptional fielders. PERIOD. It was a shoddy display of cricket over the last 7 days by India. Every team was bouncing India out of the tournament. India showed, as it always had, very fervently that come what may they would lead themselves to believing that SEVERAL TIMES BITTEN, NEVER SHY. I was appalled by the way the Indian batting carried on in the final 10 overs. We have always prided ourselves on our batting. But what we did in this competition leaves a lot to be desired. Why haven't they learnt from their mistakes. Why haven't they trained themselves to play short rising deliveries with at least some level of comfort??? If this is what we are expecting of them then only God help us in the next edition of 50 over WC to be held in India next year. I am really disappointed and thats only an understatement.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:55 GMT)

Whats done is done..all we can do now is asses..and this is my assesment.. 1 .R.Jadeja-Please ban him for 2 to 3 years from as well. 2. Y.Pathan- either give him an R.Royals jersey whn he plays for india or give Shane warne citizenship of india and replace dhoni with him.! 3. S.Raina- re-asserted the fact that he is a flat track bully.send him on India A tours to pratice a bit on wickets of SA and Aus.. 4. Murali Vijay- Are u kiddin me!>!#$? 5. A.Nehra-bowls good at the death overs but gives away runs with his fieldin as he saves with his bowlin so i dont see the point.but v r stuck with him anyway due to lack of talented bowlers in india...for now... 6. Zaheer, Yuvraj, Gambhir- woefully out of form. Dropping them(not Resting) and some domestic cricket(not IPL) might help. & finally M. S. DHONI- Needs a kick up his backside, by fans, media and the bcci, and i am sure its jus a matter of time bfre he does well again! p.s. plz remove srikant the selector!!

Posted by Farce-Follower on (May 12, 2010, 6:54 GMT)

Wonderful article. But let's face it, a country that calls Rahul Dravid 'boring' and idolises Yuvraj Singh (gosh, they still talk about his six sixes) desrves what it gets. Dhoni's luck has run out. Like the financial analysts say, 'don't confuse brilliance with a bull market'.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:53 GMT)

LOOOL no noe better than the fab four of rahul , sachin , saurav and kumble no doubts kumble being one of the best economical bowlers out in t20 and ganguly dravid and sachin provin tht class no matter wht exists in this form of the game . Frankly speaking our so called perfect indian team the youngsters as such well they can onlyplay in our indian conditions in short bullies at home ground but in intl level Whoah they got a lot and lot of levels to go through. The emotions when we lost a wc or when we were outta a big competition when the fab four were there was so deep . it was just cos all the players were playing for their nation for their fans rather than for themselves . TOday when india lost Dhoni was so cheerful and responding to the media complainin abt the ipl parties WtH. Time's done no more experimenting bring in the old champs who have not reitred i.e Dravid ,cos sachin is alwaysin the odi team , back to the odi squad to provide tht anchor which he has played for decades.

Posted by Edassery on (May 12, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

Dhoni was not captain cool but 'captain fool' for this entire tournament. Having won the toss in all super eight games he didn't opt to bat in the first two. He was obviously scared of exposing his batsmen to the bouncy track in Barbados in the first two matches. And on a bouncy track, Rohit Sharma and he himself should come at no. 3 and 4 respectively to make a statment instead he chickened out to number 7 himself. As usual, when the going is good (like 90/1 etc) on flat tracks he promotes himself. This is not what is expected out of a captain.

Also, having understaffed on the bowling unit, he never trusted Vinay Kumar who must have been there in the first or second match in super eight. Obviously he has specific likes such as Raina, Praveen Kumar, Pathan, Jadeja etc where as people like Vinay Kumar, Rohit Sharma, Pragyan Ojha (never even get selected), Dinesh Karthick etc are always neglected either in selection or final eleven. Do we see a pattern here?

Posted by the_silent_observer on (May 12, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

@Raju Iyer - it was not a diatribe, but a genuine analysis of the short-comings. the points about Gambhir's poor running between wickets has been well-documented, even during the IPL days, where he was run-out at least 3 times and looked like adding to that tally very religiously ! lack of warm-up games had been another question that was asked with the 'debonair' and 'suave' Ms Dhoni brushing it aside saying "IPL has been a set of good practice matches and we do not need warm-up games". Points that you have raised had all been brought up ever since last year's IPL and WC T20. Finally, unless you have the mindset to set right the wrongs, you will continue to go by them and that is exactly what BCCI has done. Looks like they want to run this like a software services company, more money for the company and individuals, but collectively in terms of performance, there is nothing to write home about !!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

India trudge off without a single win in the Super Eights, just as in the previous World Twenty20.Pakistan k sath jitna bura krta india,utna unkay sath hota,love pak

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

OFF CRICKET for a LONGGGGGGGGG TIME.... Good Bye cricket.... Willl watch only to see SACHIN play... rest... Good Bye .. Its sad tht we as a nation are som emotional about the game that we even give up our work to watch the country play. I dont blame just the players but BCCI is equally responsible.... If this is the State of AFFAIRS... CRICKET Soon will be a forgotten sport in INDIA>>> ..

i hope BCCI reads this and understands.... Its you, BCCI at fault... for years Indian players have been failing on fast and bouncy wickets... Wht is all that cash in your kitty for... wht does it take for you, BCCI to make such wickets so that we have Batsmen who know how to play them and for the bowlers to learn bowling on such wickets with consistency..... N if you want the good of CRICKET... pls for God SAKE.... we dont need so much of IPL.... its 60 days of time waste for an ordinary indian citizen and BIG TIME money making for the Players, board and other Beneficiaries......

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

Another CITY MOMENT OF SUCCESS for KARBONN KAMAAL Indian team for dishing out another DLF MAXIMUM.

Well done No.1 Test Team. So amazing to see that all the main stars of every team in IPL were from outside barring Sachin.Be it bollinger,nannes,hussey, KP,Pollard or any1 else.I wonder why it is called Indian!! India now should drop Zaheer ,nehra and select Harmeet Singh who bowls at SUPERFAST 120 KM/PH or Maybe Ritendar Sodhi with ULTRAFAST 115 KMPH. I have seen Afridi a spinner clocking 125-126 with spinner's action in this tournament where Zaheer and Nehra were bowling at 125-130.

Also,World's No.1 Batsman Gambhir, In form Murali vijay Super coool Dhoni Top Finisher Yusuf Pathan Kinng Yuvraaj they all should pressurise BCCI to schedule all their matches with Srilanka and Bangladesh in Subcontinent

Posted by kannancet86 on (May 12, 2010, 6:48 GMT)

Please don't compare cricket with soccer to justify IPL. Soccer culture is entirely different. In soccer,leagues have been established long ago and the fan culture is also more in favor of club soccer. Soccer leagues do more justice to their game rather by involving themselves in activities like scouting. But in cricket's case, international game still remains the most prestigious affair and playing for the country supposedly brings out the best in players. There is no harm in promoting club cricket as long as it doesnt affect the international player's performance and helps in finding young and budding talent.But the way it is being conducted right now, if anyone compares india's T20 winning percentage before the first edition of IPL with what is now he will come to see the difference which is alarming. It means that IPL organizers , BCCI and most importantly,India's young player's are focussed only on money and are no longer considering it a honor to play for the nation.

Posted by svrfremont on (May 12, 2010, 6:46 GMT)

Come on guys!! Wake up. Did you think that the Indian team were real contenders? This was expected from them. Imagine Raina being the kingpin in this batting lineup. He did not even figure in the team that played in South Africa. I dont think Raina is that great. He did not play well against Australia or against WI. Players like Tiwari, Dhawan and Uthappa were cooling their heels. This was not correct right from the get go.

I was able to clearly say with confidence that the match with Aus was lost at the toss.The diff. between this edition of the T20 World Cup and the one in SA was that we were young and played fearless cricket. Bat first and put up a lot of runs. That is the only way to win a T20.

Anyways good riddens to our team. I suspect that this is another pipe dream; to get back to win another T20 World CUP. I have already written off the Indian team for the 2011 50-over World CUP.

Posted by raghu198642 on (May 12, 2010, 6:44 GMT)

I was never contented with the team selected for T20 world cup. We received a strong blow in the form of shewag's exit,i think, who could tear apart any bowling attack and is an ideal opening partner for gambhir.Praveen Kumar's injury was another blow to india's already weak pace bowling attack with no quicks.Nehra was the best of all though he cudnt stem the flow of runs in the crucial match against srilanka. Almost every team has atleast one quick bowler. Malinga,tait,roach, steyn amer,broad etc.Our much hyped batting line up had highly underperformed barring Raina and rohit.For God's sake YUVRAJ and YOUSUF PATHAN should be thrown out of the team completely.I wonder how long the selectors will stick with them. These guys have no class and their audacious and impulsive shots will never win any matches for india.Yuvraj might have played exceptionally well in the first edition but his form has slumped since then.Besides,he was never a consistent player. YOUSUF sud be banned completely.

Posted by VijayRajan on (May 12, 2010, 6:35 GMT)

As has been seen, India and Pakistan have the "been there done that" attitude. This MUST change.

Posted by swapnilp on (May 12, 2010, 6:34 GMT)

Hello..!!..This time BCCI need to take some action ,we are not waking up to 2:30 A.M. in the morning to see such kind of Irresponsible cricket played by them. Here are some points which in my mind was the reason behind 2nd consecutive debacle in world cup. (1)-wrong team selection:- what's the problem Mr. Srikanth has with Robin uthappa( IS he not even deserved to be in the 2nd string team for Zimbabwe tour ..!!). When they will realize that we have much better players than R Jadeja and Yusuf Pathan(who have played so called "greatest" innings). (2)-wrong team combination:- when will dhoni realize that t20 is not only a batsmen game. India SHOULD play 5 specialist bowlers. (3)-Lack of confidence and Technique against short ball stuff:- (no description needed)

Posted by ArunChennai on (May 12, 2010, 6:32 GMT)

Wonderful article Sidharth Monga! "hit-and-giggle league" - apt name for IPL.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:26 GMT)

First thing india don't have quality bowler like austrilia,pakistan,south africa.indian maximum bowlers average near to the maximum.indian players not playing as a team they are trying to playing him self or personal record.fielding is poor qualityneed to improve any how .BCCI what they thinking i don't know.they should be make first track with bounce one or two pitches because when india going to play out of country like australia,new zeland,south africa ,west indies at that time indian players can practice more n more in this pitch.BCCI should be rectify some fast bowler from different places in india without any polotics.i am indian but when i watch t-20 world cup match indian performance i feel very hurt .Thank u

Posted by aussiecurry on (May 12, 2010, 6:23 GMT)

I liked the heading by siddarth monga THANKS FOR COMING, Yeah they have come for the fomality and bit of personal fun,i will say writer is right that Dhoni was out of tactics many times in this tournament,i felt like he is leading the indian team as if he is leading CSK in IPL, somebody should have reminded him that he is playing world cup and worst thing is our domestic T20 tournamnet leaders Sachin the great and Ojha where are they,first match of the tournament shastry asked him..You are starting the tournament without any practice match-he said does it matter-Dear Cool Guy Dhoni you got your answer, iam a aussie indian still fights against this bogans but the way our boys played they really need a break from every thing Aussie sporting rule is-no parties,no clubs,no late night even for the small player who is playing district level in any game,IPL late night party was compulsory for the players,now we can understand how professional they are when it comes to sports

Posted by kannancet86 on (May 12, 2010, 6:19 GMT)

Please don't compare cricket with soccer to justify IPL. Soccer culture is entirely different. In soccer,leagues have been established long ago and the fan culture is also more in favor of club soccer. Soccer leagues do more justice to their game rather by involving themselves in activities like scouting. But in cricket's case, international game still remains the most prestigious affair and playing for the country supposedly brings out the best in players. There is no harm in promoting club cricket as long as it doesnt affect the international player's performance and helps in finding young and budding talent.But the way it is being conducted right now, if anyone compares india's T20 winning percentage before the first edition of IPL with what is now he will come to see the difference which is alarming. It means that IPL organizers , BCCI and most importantly,India's young player's are focussed only on money and are no longer considering it a honor to play for the nation.

Posted by lucyferr on (May 12, 2010, 6:18 GMT)

India is to world cricket as the USA is to baseball. American baseball players don't do very well in world tournaments - they only won Olympic gold once in five attempts (Cuba reached all five finals and won three) and only reached the final of the World Baseball Classic once (and lost) in its two editions. But 99% of American baseball fans don't care, and still consider their country the #1 country in their sport. To them, the Olympics and the WBC aren't 'real'. It's becoming like that with India. Excellent article.

Posted by shiby on (May 12, 2010, 6:18 GMT)

Thank u in advance for Team India & Mr.Sidharth Monga. In ur article clarified the naked truth. IPL confidence nothing comparison to Int'l Cricket. Dhoni Co. has a good opportunity to enter Semi, AUSi's sweep away WI, but everything lost by our PACE bowlers. If we learn from IPL, never been throw the boll to pavilion. And last 3 over's INDIA took just 23 Runs instead off SLK score 31 from just 12 balls. If Team India react well at death over should be earn a 25 runs more. But Uvi, YP were hit very poor even Dhoni not accelerate much. So in this aspect I suspect our Coach Kerston's treatment not produced much fighting spirits. As a Coach y (Y?) India depend other Nations except many reputed talented Heads available in India. In shortly in death over SLK show the real T-T game with Bat & Bowl. Prepare well for the next year. At least mind about Millions of our Kids watching the climax in front of Screen with anticipately & emotionally.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:13 GMT)

What do you expect? The ipl was an all-style-no-substance drama. 51 days of absolute mediocrity. But for a few international players, it was rubbish all the way. I've been making the same point for the last two years... Nobody would listen anyway. I hope they read your column. I hope they understand what really is wrong with them. I hope they kick the mediocrity out of their game and heads. I hope they wont take the IPL seriously anymore.

Posted by Sitting-on-a-gate on (May 12, 2010, 6:05 GMT)

For more than a decade three people have carried the bulk of Indias defense against pace & bounce - Dravid (arguably the worlds best player of bounce), Sachin & Laxman (Competent against bounce & soft hands). Is it any surprise that a team that lack these 3 have struggled - No! It was expected. The first T20 WC was a fluke - international bowlers were under the impression that India is still rock solid against bounce, little did they know that the the big 3 (& 4) always had shielded the others against bounce & genuine pace. Well we cant turn the clock back now... Way forward - beg Sachin to come back and play T20s, (Laxman doesn't look like getting fit for IPL let alone WC & Dravid had said, on air, that the T20 is a bit too much for 'old' players like him). Get a decent player of the short ball into the team and for Gods sake drop that lunk of meat that goes by the name of Yuvraj...

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:04 GMT)

Kirti Patel: This is really very poor performance of Indian team, actually they never had confident to reach semi. they dnt deserve semi.. if they would have manage to reach semis, it would have unfair for cricket, because only four deserve teams shld reach semi. Now time has come to look for another dynamic captain to lead.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:03 GMT)

India's lineup on paper looks cut out of solid concrete. However, their performance on the field felt like a sponge full of voids and vacuum. Its saddening to see such a bunch of talent going waste!!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:02 GMT)

The article is true inrespect to the fact that our team lacked inspiration and entusiasm ... however one cannot blame the IPL - after all the entire sri lankan 11 also played every single match of the IPL and they did not appear to be tired or fatigued.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:01 GMT)

Indians never stood a chance against mighty Srilanka as they were tooo incompetent to give any tough time time to any team. They should only play their matches in super batting friendly pitches of india.

Posted by synergy on (May 12, 2010, 6:00 GMT)

The fact of the matter is that the Indians have always over rated their team. Plasying entertaining cricket in IPL does not mean that they can be world beaters. IPL standards are much lower than the international events, the teams playing in IPL are not of the same level as the international teams. It is time now that the Indians stop day dreaming and let the actual cricket take charge in India instead of the IPL circus. IPL is more of a business venture than actul cricket and should not be looked at such high esteem. End result of IPL is that the players and the franchises make a lot of money but same cannot be said about Indian cricket which has actually suffered. The paper tigers have now failed thrice at the international level which speaks a lot about the impact of IPL on Indian cricket.

Posted by karthik_spunk on (May 12, 2010, 5:59 GMT)

@Dhoni_fan_from_a_dada_era - hey do u remember me & my comments during the IPL conversations - i had made a strong comment stating dhoni will spoil dis T-20 WC. but u laughed & commented ...Becoz of the fans like u dhoni is Playing cricket only with mouth :) LOL

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

This Indian team deserved to be out of the tournament. No captain can win any match with the bowling of zaheer who is claimed to be the core of the indian bowling unit. Zaheer has no pace and no brain. Thanks for the guys behind not including him in the last match. Learn from other teams. Big names doesnt always win matches. Poor young lad R.jad need more time to play at tis level. Groom them technically, mentally and physically. we need a team to recruit cricketers from the remote places and not just from the cities. Its a shame if can't find from 1.2B popu.

Posted by SachinIsIndianCricket on (May 12, 2010, 5:51 GMT)

It has been a time to rethink about Indian T20 team. T20 need not to have experience but fearless approach by the players. If you look at the body language of the experience players like Yuvi, Bhaji and Gambhir, they are not too confident playing this format of the game atleast this worldcup edition. The idea of having more spinners in the team to avoid any delay penalities rather strategy. Zaheer and Nehra are clueless if the batsmen starts dominating. They don't have variations in bowling. You cannot blame Srikanth alone as the other 5 selectors are also responsible. They should understand that T20 is not about experience its all about fearless and aggressive approach. Hope we find some good sloggers and yorker kings in the next edition

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (May 12, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

India have been un-believably poor.................same things are happening from last time...

same ipl circus,same sehwag injury and same shoddy batting performance.......It virtually seals the debate that Laxman,Dravid and Sir Sachin are the last of India's great batting wizards.

I can see them as future sobers,lloyd,richards looking at what has become of their once great team

Posted by jrm1186 on (May 12, 2010, 5:46 GMT)

well said Razab Quasem Chowdhury!!!!!!!!!!11

Posted by critic12345 on (May 12, 2010, 5:44 GMT)

People speak here as if Sehwag is a saint. He played with injury in IPL and suddenly on selection eve he is inexplicablily injured. Atleast unlike last time, he told the injury beforehand. Dhoni & Raina as a batsman have done reseaonably well. Real reason we are in this position is fielding & bowling. Jadeja ! what can you say about him. He dropped 2 catches in 2 matches, turned the match on head. His bowling - real worst. In 2 matches ,for 4 overs, he gave 74,ie nearly 19Runs a over. Dhoni's player didnot back his captain's decision. A captain is only as good as his players. Zaheer Khan,Jadeja - Pathetic. Nehra- not extraodinary. Bhajji-Leaked runs in crucial stage. Yusuf-biggest dud of T20 for India.Last but not least, Yuvraj. He is not Yuvraj anymore ,he is Yuvraj + 5kilos. He has become lazy in running,misfields, no enthu,batting-PATHETIC. Time to drop him and give chance to players like RohitSharma & Badrinath(Test)

Posted by UmairTariq on (May 12, 2010, 5:44 GMT)

Maybe there is a hint of rift in the team. We've seen yuvi not playing at all well for Kings XI Punjab because captaincy was handed to Sangakara. Same thing in world t20, he was almost silent in the tournament considering the reputation of the kind of player he is. Agreed with the short pitch bowling and stuff but India just hasn;t been the team it was in the inaugural version of world t20.

Posted by jrm1186 on (May 12, 2010, 5:43 GMT)

@ East_West, do you think Indian players don't get paid well to represent their country??? Dude, you must be jocking!!! May be you should look at each player's yearly contracts. Of course, they don't earn as much as they earn from IPL. But still they get a huge amount of money from BCCI!! The players like dhoni, tendulker, sehwag, gambbhir, yuvraj and Bhajji come under contract 'A' and they earn a huge amount of money. Even players with contract 'B', 'C' and 'D' earn a hell lot of money to play for Indian cricket team. In fact, cricketers in India are always paid excessive money.

Posted by navneet_upneja on (May 12, 2010, 5:41 GMT)

We have a team not of players but of superstars.. See Dhoni, Yuvraj and others are not bugger stars than Tendulkar, Dravid, ganguly in any means but irony is they (Sachin, dravid, ganguly) never thought this way that they are stars...they know they have some responsibility towards the team and all people watching them. People have respect for these players and emotions attached to these players but todays team with players performing in 1 out of odd 10 - 15 matches thought they are bigger stars and actually behave like stars. Indian cricket needs Players not the one with worng ego's.

Posted by dilipm on (May 12, 2010, 5:39 GMT)

Well analysed Siddarth. A captain is as good as his team. The team he was given for this tournament was not balanced. It went by potential rather than merit. Yuvraj, Pathan,Jadeja underformed. Yuvraj looked bulky and unfit. Pathan was clearly out of his league in WI and Jadeja hardly played in recent month-thanks to his ban! Promising players like Ojha, Rayudu,Kohli, who exhibited fire in their bellies could have been selected instead.Ashwin was another who may have done well. The team had a lot of "geriatrics" in the field- Yuvraj, Nehra,Zaheer, Harbhajan, Gambhir etc are not the swiftest of movers and these conceded a lot of easy runs. Added to this was their own pathetic running between the wickets! To top it all Dhoni put opposition in most of the times when batting is supposed to be our strength. Without the pressure of chasing scores the batsmen might have played better! However the gulf in class between the greats like SRT,Dravid,Laxman & Sehwag and the present lot is huge!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:38 GMT)

We need to groom a second string team and more importantly we need fast bowlers, genuine fast bowlers, who are strong and well built, not ppl like Nehra and praveen who look like stick figures next to the likes of tait and johnson.

BCCI should develop pitches with pace and bounce and it should be mandatory that India plays atleast two overseas tours away from the subcontinent. Had enough of Lanka and Bangladesh.

Posted by aqueelahmedcns on (May 12, 2010, 5:37 GMT)

Mr.Srikanth is selecting tamil nadu team not Indian team .Srikanth and Selection Committee should take responsiblity and resign for not picking best team instead of Form Team

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:37 GMT)

India was looking really tired...

Posted by jrm1186 on (May 12, 2010, 5:36 GMT)

No need to blame IPL!!!! even soccer players play well for english premier leauge and other club matches, but that doesn't mean they don't play well in the world cup and other important tournaments!!! In fact, IPL should have given a lot of practice and confidence to all the players, some players like Raina, Petersen, Gayle, Watson could utilise it but others couldn't, especially Indian cricketers and this is the most shocking as it was INDIAN premier league!!!

Posted by East_West on (May 12, 2010, 5:31 GMT)

Palash Kar: come on brother! DO you think INDIA is going to win against Afghanistan next time??? We INDIANS are no match for the killer instinct Afghans have! They have nothing to loose and play like HEROES whereas Indians play for DOllars!!!

Posted by prashant1 on (May 12, 2010, 5:29 GMT)

Too bad. The Indians will just have to figure out a way without Tendulkar and co.

Posted by jrm1186 on (May 12, 2010, 5:29 GMT)

India have lost only because of poor captaincy from Dhoni!!!!!! He hasn't followed the basics at all!!! Playing with 8 batsmen and that too in a T20 cricket doesn't make sense at all!!!!!! Besides, he's always blamed batting for the loss but I think it's the bowling which has sunk the team down!!! Regular bowlers like Bhajji, Nehra and to some extent even Zaheer have done well in this sorld cup but it's the part timers whi have given a lot of runs and screwed the chances of winning!! Dhoni has always played with 8 batsmen and opted to chase 180-190...... Hello, wake up dude!!! These are no the flat pitches of India where even 180 is a small score, this is west indies.....on these bouncy trackes, even 150-160 is a competitive score!!!!! 8 batsmen for 20 overs?????????? You can't play cricket without at least 4 regular bowlers!!!! Even in 50 overs cricket, we've never played a fifth regular bowler, thanks to Pathan, Jadeja and Yuvi!!!!

Posted by JGuru on (May 12, 2010, 5:27 GMT)

While it is easy to point finger on IPL for India's dismal show, it should also be taken into account that there are so many players like Malinga, Nannes, Hussey,Tait, Jayawardene who been performing well in the IPL and have not disappointed when wearing their respective country's colors as well. There are serious technical faults which has not been addressed for years. Batsmen not able to cope up with rising deliveries, sloppy fielding, unimaginative bowling and totally mundane tactics with team selection. I do not think Indian players are under performing. It is more about the lack of potency to deliver and stand up when it matters. More often than not, Dhoni says India did not play to its potential. But the real question is, do they have the potential to play ruthless fast bowling. Unless the basics are understood and fundamental flaws are ironed out, India would continue to disappoint. The success would follow only when the elementary mistakes are eliminated.

Posted by rainmaker86 on (May 12, 2010, 5:25 GMT)

very very true. There have been lot of errors made by Dhoni (The captain cool) in this series. Why was he playing Jadeja? Why was Rohit Sharma wasted in last game, considering his good form which is way better then Dhoni/Pathan? Why does India have to depend on spinners in West Indies where wicket assist faster ballers? Why selectors dint pick Robin when he is in form of his life? (I bet he is way better then Pathan as he thinks before playing a shot. Pathan plays as if he can hit any ball for six, and then get out) In none of the games I felt like India were playing, they were playing individual game. This is not how games are suppose to won. Look at England, they don't have lots of big name players but difference is they play as a team and thus won.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:25 GMT)

Where was this article while Cricinfo was singing the IPL's praises with Page2 and what not? It's easy to close the barn door after the proverbial horse has bolted. Cricinfo is _the_ brand when it comes to on-line cricket. It is time that this brand that we watched grow from when it was a gopher page stand for journalistic courage:

Call it when Modi acts a pompous ass Call it when India does not support the FTP Call it when Australia pressures the umpires with blatant gamesmanship Call it when boundaries are brought it to make mis-hits six!

Lead Cricinfo, lead!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:24 GMT)

"effect their techniques" I think it should be "affect their techniques"

May be I am wrong, but most likely not.

Posted by MadeInIndia on (May 12, 2010, 5:22 GMT)

Selection Issues.


Posted by n.Setpal on (May 12, 2010, 5:21 GMT)

The biggest culprit for Team India losing the last 6 Super Eight Matches is IPL. On both the occasions IPL ended just a week before the T20 World Cup and on both occassion Sehwag is out bcz of injuires playing for DD, Yuvraj totally exhasuted with late night parties and has no strength to hit the ball out of the ground. Zaheer has no fuel left after IPL, Dhonis master mind is still with Chennai Super Kings, as he stated, how much money his franchisee is spending on them, so it is his responsibility to take Chennai to Semi Finals, Team India later. Yusuf Pathan is a local hero and International Zero. Another IPL hero and zero in WC is Murali Vijay. Dinesh Karthik is a pure show off, Nehra running on field is a comedy, Harbhajan is no more a match winner. Gambhirs form is gone. OVERALL a total Pathetic performance by so called IPL Heroes and Team India Zeroes. Stop the IPL and FOCUS on TEAM INDIA. There is no other PRIDE then palying for TEAM INDIA.

Posted by unclesam05 on (May 12, 2010, 5:20 GMT)

I think this is about time that IPL be shifted to a separate calendar of the year. Although a very novel concept, all that IPL currently is doing is to bring foreign cricketers to India and give them match practices before the 2011 WC. Our players can't seem to be learning from their mistakes and seem to lack motivation to learn from their mistakes. Short balls have been have never been Indian batsmen forte except for some very true cricketers but they too learnt it the hard way. Sachin was given the chin music in his first test itself. Sehwag was exposed in the India-Australia series and the best of 'em all, Ganguly. They had a very unique work ethic, a regime that never disturbed their technique whether it was any form of the game. Its time that the younger players get thru from the useless shadows of the likes of Yuvi who have been lithatrgic enuf to never curb their appetites and play with those bulging stomachs. To become great, you must have a great work regime ala Indian gr8s.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:15 GMT)

it would be a good thing to ask india to Qualify with the likes of afganistan before coming for the main matches.

Posted by SaliyaJ on (May 12, 2010, 5:15 GMT)

"Between the real important cricket, a number of needless ODI series and tri-series involving Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, both outside their FTP commitments and both .."

Author must have been smoking something to comment that matches between India and Sri Lanka are not real cricket.. No wonder India can't beat Sri Lanka in crucial games with this kind of mentality..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:13 GMT)

If we ask me, our bowling deficiency was completely exposed in the tournament! We were out-bowled by every other opponent we played (barring Afghanistan). Games at Barbados should have been made into interesting contests by the frontline bowlers which did not happen!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:12 GMT)

Dismal performance by Indian bowlers cost India place in semis.

Posted by East_West on (May 12, 2010, 5:11 GMT)

Well said Sid! Mantra of Mahi is simple - IPL =We get paid so much money..least we can do is to reach SEMIs.. For INDIA=we hardly get paid any to represent Country - least we can do is to be happy that we reached SUPER 8s. It's humiliating to see our jokers play like "mentally retarded". IPL is/was supposed to benefit INDIAN players, but haven't seen a single super hero [ex: Yusuf Pathan, Yuvi...] perform to their potential! Even with County cricket, England is no where close to win ODI world cup, likewise, even with IPL, India is no where close to win T20 World Cup! How about we all start watching "how Mithali and her colleagues do their talking on the ground for hallf of what these Indian men get paid to this hara kiri! shame on Mahindra Dhoni and his team! go back to your bikes and Yuvraj will go back to booze, Jadeja wants more dough.........and the list goes on...........

Posted by binkaf on (May 12, 2010, 5:09 GMT)

India's exit didn't actually surprised me as I was sure India won't make it to the last four as they are not as strong in field as they are seen in papers. India is an over-hyped team and in reality this is what they do deserve. This also shows the futileness of the barking on the ground of performance on IPL. IPL and world stage are of huge difference, plus those who performed extremely well in IPL were also missing in Caribbean, the likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly & that must have hurt India badly. Whatever, the fact right here is that India are out of ICC World T20, West Indies, 2010 and they better look on their drawbacks, try to improve themselves and not try to make their fans fool by making illogical excuses.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:08 GMT)

"Sachin Tendulkar, Virender Sehwag, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman are too established and too good to let a hit-and-giggle league effect their techniques or work ethic. And it's because of them, and not the IPL stars, that India are No. 1 in Tests." Thats it , there is nothing more to say about Indian cricket, just add Anil Kumble to that list. They are the ones who form the spine of the Indian cricket, they are the ones who brought respectability to Indian cricket, the rest are all hype and bluster. Play more tests, just play more tests and please keep away the Yuvrajs and Rainas from test cricket. Dhoni is just lucky he had a test time comprising the fab five, otherwise he is an obdurate captain. Why was he insisting on R Jadeja to bowl, while he had so many other opions ? Baffling !

Posted by TheOnlyEmperor on (May 12, 2010, 5:05 GMT)

Dhoni has been a bad captain... I think Saurav should lead India once again ... India should go back to Saurav's formula of 8 batsmen and 3 bowlers. Kumble should be called back. Nehra and Zaheer the other 2. Saurav and Gambhir, should open the T-20 innings to provide stability, consolidation and momentum. SRT would come at no 3. The batsmen will then learn to score 4s instead of running between the wickets and running out of breath. Poor Gambhir. Dravid and Laxman should follow. The ever reliable Yuvraj would be the pinch hitter. If he fails Bhajji the super allrounder could take over after Dhoni gets run out. Zaheer would be the last over slogger and everybody would have got their batting. (Remember the days as a child when u felt miserable if u didn't get your batting? ) Everybody would then be happy and we would start winning again. Simple!

Posted by kdcricket on (May 12, 2010, 5:02 GMT)

The Indian team again needs a change in captaincy. History shows that the performance curve of our captains starts going downwards after 3-4 years at the helm. So, its time to say bye bye Dhoni and get someone else on board. That they lost is forgiven,that they couldn't stand up to short pitched stuff is forgotten, but what is inexplicable and not excusable is he fact that this team lacks motivation. If these guys transform themselves into superhuman fielders catching everything that comes their way in the IPL, yet seems to drop sitters when they play for India is inexcusable. Also the security of IPL can be damaging in the long run. no longer is it important to be thie among the top 11 to earn laurels. You just have to be playing good cricket for your state and you'll be picked up by a IPL franchisee and earn big. This trend is dangerous and may inflict irreparable damage...God save Indian Cricket

Posted by Dhoni_fan_from_a_dada_era on (May 12, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

very true... Once on headlines today, when asked about IPL nights party, ganguly said,"The players need to take care of themselves, I know to keep up my game, i can't afford to be at late night parties so I skip them invariably. only the young players go" ...and such a word of wisdom goes unheard by our young superstars,.... India looked drained and completely out of sorts. RIP indian cricket.

Posted by spiritwithin on (May 12, 2010, 4:58 GMT)

indian team sud hav a camp for atleast two weeks before the T20 World Cup but due to IPL they got only 5 daysbreak before da event and therefore no camps(is IPL more important than a world cu??)...y schedule IPL just b4 da world cup when da the players need to pracice together and to sort out their weakness...y so many meaningless ODI's against SL & bangladesh??if we continue to prepare those placid tracks than we wil always find players like yusuf pathan who tonks military medium indian bowlers in flat pitches in india but comes a cropper against quality bowlers .....1billion population alongwith the richest board in cricket still we cant find a genuine fast bowler or fast medium bowler of the calibre of mcgrath or Asif instead we hav nehra and co who does'nt know where to bowl..even with so much money still most of our outfields r pathetic resulting in average fielders...BCCI wake up and dont just run for money...

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:55 GMT)

For two editions running India haven't won a Super Eights game. But it is the manner of the defeats, almost identical to anytime this line-up bats on a bouncy track, that will hurt them more. To be fair to them, there is hardly any time in Twenty20s to duck under a few bouncers and try to wear the bowlers down

Posted by Sanj747 on (May 12, 2010, 4:53 GMT)

Nice article Sidharth. Gary Kirsten lives in fairy land. Does anyone really think India is the best test team based on some results at home and beating NZ away. Come on guys. I can tell you that once tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman call it a day, India will face a huge task to fill these slots juts like Australia did when McGrath, Warne, Gilchrist and others. can they beat SAF in SAF and Australia in Australia in a series. One more point, I thought the IPL was to help improve Indian cricket. From this recent show and last year's 20-20 world cup in England you can't help but say that it has taken cricket in India very much backwards.

Posted by Vivek.Bhandari on (May 12, 2010, 4:49 GMT)

very hard hitting piece...the first two paragraphs really sum up the whole scenario...

Posted by Raju_Iyer on (May 12, 2010, 4:47 GMT)

First of the many diatribes, which doubtless offer little practical solutions but try and indulge in sophisticated basing - wasn't Gautam Gambhir up unitl this tournament lauded by one and all and now we suddenly learn that his wrists do not drop enough or his running between the wickets is poor! And I just cannot understand the comparison between having a warm up game during the IPL (when time permitted it) and not having it now. Let's face it, these were not novices, they were the best India had to offer in this format of the game and we found that other nations had teams who played better in this format and so we lost. We have not been disgraced, we did defeat South Africa comfortably and were not mauled by the West Indies. We should not forget that in T20 the margin of error is small, so one dropped catch, one bad over etc can decide the outcome. I have had enough of these prophets of doom, I for one am looking forward to the Tri Series in Zimbabwe and wish the young team well!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:47 GMT)

Lets face the facts - a) IPL is a reality, it will not go away. b) BCCI will always crowd the cricket calendar. c) Indian cricketers, barring a couple of noticeable exceptions, are not intelligent blokes, and for all their hype are not up to scratch at the international level. Bottomline - the cup of Indian cricket is bare. Unless players take responsibility for putting in a performance which reflects pride for playing for the country, we are continuously going to face these disappointments.

Posted by joshilay on (May 12, 2010, 4:46 GMT)

Brilliant read, Sid. Absolute moster of an article.

When your fellow writer, a certain Gideon Haigh, in his article "Why so surprised?" castigated the IPL after the Modi furore by speaking outrightly against his fellow writers like Harsha and said that India has been basking in wrong glory and said that India is shining. I was totally dismayed at how he put it through.Not all of it was correct, but he did have a point somewhere though.

India will always boast of their cash richness and their muscle to weigh out subsequent interventions of the ICC to have some common sense prevail.

Yesterday, when we were losing the match, I felt pity on our country. Do we even know to try our best and lose (if thats what is met out to us)? I didnt find any aggression from the players? Not one. When Sangakkara's wicket fell there was no sniff of blood and the drive for the kill. Instead no1 didnt care and gave in easy damn runs to SL. They DIDNT even TRY.

Yuvraj, Yusuf etc need to be dropped.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:46 GMT)


Posted by MKLNarayan on (May 12, 2010, 4:45 GMT)

Aptly said. The words "Your franchise pays so much money for you, you should at least make the semifinals. After that you can say it is a lottery" by Dhoni after getting his team to semi finals of IPL shows how much players care for their league and how less they care for their national duty.

Posted by skumar7777 on (May 12, 2010, 4:45 GMT)

A very hard hitting article. Dhoni is beginning to loose his magic touch since he is not enjoying his cricket anymore. Forget his magic touch, it looks like he is also beginning to loose his basic judgement - overloading with spinners on fast tracks, showing faith in Ravindra Jadeja again and again, thinking that Yusuf Pathan is an international bowler. thinking that IPL is sufficient preparation to compete against international teams (you might forgive him for that since it is the bosses in the BCCI who draw the schedule). The most disappointing part was the post-match conference - he had seemed more worried about letting down his IPL team owners who had paid him a fortune in the IPL post-match conf than letting down millions of Indian fans who have followed the Indian team in the T20 World Cup. What more can you expect from someone who does not bother to turn up to receive a national award conferred on him?

Posted by harikrajeev on (May 12, 2010, 4:42 GMT)

The last thing we want is to have the IPL2011 to be held before Worldcup 2011 . Atleast we should go to the world cup fresh . We don't want to mess up the Sachin Farewell Gift

Posted by Rooboy on (May 12, 2010, 4:39 GMT)

Obviously Steve Bucknor's fault. I think india should refuse to play in any more major tournaments until the other teams agree to allow them to play in the final, irrespective of results.

Posted by kirikettu on (May 12, 2010, 4:39 GMT)

Great article. It hits the nail right in the head, I hope our Indian cricketers especially the batsmen read this. If these people are going to be the future of Indian cricket, something is really wrong in the land that produced Gavaskar, Sachin and Dravid. God save Indian cricket !

Posted by Buoyant on (May 12, 2010, 4:38 GMT)

I agree with you Mr. Sidharth Monga. Did you saw how Ghambir was running between the wickets? On couple of occasion he did not even grounded his bat to complete a run. In even first 3 Overs, he missed 3 easy runs and so on. I think Indian bowlers bowled well, especially at the end against Australia and West Indies, scores could have been 15-20 more. But as a whole, star-studded batting lineup was a complete failure in the tournament.

Posted by crikbuff on (May 12, 2010, 4:36 GMT)

Here's a really good summary of how and why India has failed in the last 2 T20 WCs. Dhoni has already blamed the IPL nights; but the story doesn't just end there. How can anyone sustain the gruelling schedule of 14+ matches in 6 weeks and hectic travel schedule. Batsmen have no time to hone their skills, bowlers have no time to build strength and increase pace and variety in their bowling. Budding talents like Sreesanth, Ishant, RP have burned out with the non-stop tamasha of IPL. Yuvraj has become unfit to play for India. Sehwag has missed the last 2 WCs due to injuries sustained during IPL The IPL has cost India twice now, next year the IPL is followed immediately by the England tour. It's time for our serious cricketers - Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag, Dhoni, Gambhir, Zaheer - to stand up and boycott IPL. Show some national pride guys - don't just sell your soul to the devil - money!

Posted by HaVoKry on (May 12, 2010, 4:31 GMT)

Harsh, but had to be said.

Posted by raunakagarwal on (May 12, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

Absolutely spot on. Id like to add one more thing. And that is the willingness to Win matches. Loot at SRT, Veeru, Rahul or VVS. They WANT TO win everything for India. THey have that fire even in their 30's to go out and WIN matched for their country.

Look at the Raina's, Sharma's, Dhoni's, the commitment or the desire is just not there. There is a kind of "chalta hai type attitude" which needs to get out of their system. India hosts the IPL and yet they can't find 14 guys who can win a World Cup T20. This is just awful. It is not the loss that matters, it is the MANNER IN WHICH THEY LOOSE which matters the most.

As Ravi Shasti aptly put it, "THIS IS PATHETIC".

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:20 GMT)

i really feel sorry for India. they no t20 player in line up

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