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Warne tells Lyon to stick with basics

Brydon Coverdale

October 23, 2012

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Nathan Lyon sends down a delivery, West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 5th day, April 27, 2012
The offbreak and the straight ball are all Nathan Lyon needs to be an effective Test spinner, according to Shane Warne © Associated Press
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Shane Warne has urged Nathan Lyon to simply focus on his stock ball rather than worrying about developing any new tricks as he aims to lock in his place as Australia's long-term Test spinner. And Warne said a potentially serious shoulder injury to the Victoria left-arm spinner Jon Holland, who he expected to be picked for next year's Ashes tour, could be a big blow as Australian cricket would need Holland as well as Lyon going forward.

Warne, who was at the MCG for his first net session since being named as captain of the Melbourne Stars, said there should be no question that Australia would play a spinner in the first Test against South Africa in Brisbane. The Gabba was Warne's most successful ground as a Test spinner - he took 68 wickets there at 20.30 - but the seam-friendly nature of Sheffield Shield pitches at the venue often makes four fast men a tempting option for selectors.

However, Australia's desire not to ask too much of its young fast men, combined with the fact that Lyon picked up seven wickets in his only Gabba Test, against New Zealand last year, means he will almost certainly play. Lyon is trying to regain his form in the Sheffield Shield after a disappointing Australia A tour of England this year and Warne believes Lyon, who conceded he had struggled with the avalanche of advice he had received over the past year, should go back to basics.

"Graeme Swann does okay [with only] the offbreak and the straight one. I think Nathan Lyon has done very well too," Warne said. "I think if he can just concentrate on his offbreak and the straight one I'm sure he'll be fine.

"For Nathan it's just to keep doing well. As a spinner, all you want to do is bowl well. Don't try too much stuff, just bowl well, and over a period of time you'll have better games than not. Keep spinning his offbreak, the odd straight one, think about the game pretty well, contribute to the team and that's it."

Warne believed Lyon and Holland could both play roles for Australia in future and he said he had very impressed with what he saw of Holland last year, when they were both on the Stars roster. Holland had been mentioned by the national selector John Inverarity as one of the two best spinners in the country last week, only to suffer a shoulder injury while fielding in club cricket at the weekend.

Holland was due to find out his prognosis after seeing a specialist on Tuesday, but there were strong fears within the Victoria camp that he would need a second shoulder reconstruction, having had one in 2010. Warne said Holland, who usually concentrates on a stock finger-spinner with subtle variations in pace and flight, was the kind of bowler who could provide value to Australia's Test team.

"Jon Holland is a big loss," Warne said. "I had him pencilled in about 12 or 18 months ago that him and Nathan Lyon would be on the Ashes next year and I was hopeful that both of them would play, especially for the balance of the team when you've got guys like Watson, Mitchell Marsh who can play as allrounders, you can play two spinners and one or two other quicks.

"It's a real big loss to lose Dutchy. He's really improved. I loved working with him last year. We worked on the mindset of bowling, how to approach bowling, and I think he really developed. He had a good finish to last year and he's been bowling really well. I really feel for Dutch and hopefully he'll be back as quick as possible because I really think Australian cricket needs him."

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Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

Would be very difficult either way given I've never even been to Lancashire before? Lol?

Posted by Meety on (October 25, 2012, 11:04 GMT)

@Hammond on (October 24 2012, 10:22 AM GMT) - not really - I never said you actually PLAYED in it! LOL!

Posted by Hammond on (October 24, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

@Meety- you flatter me old chap, the highest level of cricket I ever played was 5th grade for Wyong (District). If I ever went over to England to play Lancashire Leagues would be way out of my League :)

Posted by Hammond on (October 24, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

@Chris_P- it seems to be working for him- 42 @ 27.83 is a stellar start to a bowling career by any stretch of the imagination. I would hate to see him try and learn the doosra and totally stuff his action up. And don't worry about Meety, he is just in denial that a full blown fair dinkum Aussie can go for England.

Posted by Meety on (October 23, 2012, 20:48 GMT)

@Chris_P on (October 23 2012, 19:24 PM GMT) - OzzyHammonds home cricket league is the Lancashire Leagues.

Posted by Chris_P on (October 23, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

@Hammond. Totally agree. Lyons had a simple action bowled with a mxiture of spim & loop. Get back to basics, that is all we require from him.... perhaps a stint at the Baulko leagues might help?

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (October 23, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

Lyon and Hauritz would be my choices, and have been for some time. I've not seen much of O'Keefe so can't really comment on him. It really irks me that Aus. haven't tried to stick with Lyon and Hauritz more... the only reason I can think of is that perhaps they wont offer anything with the bat, whereas Doherty... Smith... White... supposidly could. I still don't get this though, as it's wickets that win tests, not runs. Lyon/Hauritz may not run through a batting line-up like Warne could, but they keep the runs down and the pressure on so the likes of McKay/Starc can strike at the other end.

Posted by jonesy2 on (October 23, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

forget the melb stars king shane why dont you just become the spin bowling coach????? even if its just on a part time basis while in the team is at home... also i love the way warnie was talking here about having two spinners because you definetly could with watto and marsh potentially batting at 4 and 6 respectively come next year

Posted by jonesy2 on (October 23, 2012, 11:06 GMT)

42 wickets at 27 in the last year with a couple of michelles to be the best spinner in the world behind ajmal. i would say just continue what he has been doing...

Posted by Beertjie on (October 23, 2012, 10:21 GMT)

Agree with most of what Warney says but there are few grounds (except in India) where Oz would pick 2 spinners (and Dutchy won't go there now). Hope he makes it by July because, while Lyon is OK, Dutchy could replace him if the English batters become too comfortable with Lyon.

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