Saad Shafqat December 9, 2009

The Kaneria conundrum

Kaneria’s assets include a highly effective googly, an accurate stock ball, and the will to strike back after coming in for some stick
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Despite Kaneria's ability and success, we are still left with a sense that he has not lived up to his promise © Associated Press
 

During the course of the second Test against New Zealand in Wellington, wrist spinner Danish Kaneria inched past an important milestone on the ladder of Pakistani wicket-takers. With 238 wickets (from 55 Tests), he has now become the most successful spinner (and the fourth-most successful bowler of any type) in Pakistani Test history. Ahead of him lie only the truly hallowed names – Imran Khan, Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram. Kaneria is almost 29, and still has several years of active playing life left. If he continues at his current rate of 4.3 wickets per Test and six Tests per year, he could well end up with 400 wickets.

He is no Shane Warne, but then nobody is. Still, Kaneria is potentially a great bowler. His numbers (an average of 34.04 and strike rate of 67.9) stand up well against Pakistan’s other leggies; an accomplished fraternity by any standards. Abdul Qadir took 236 Test wickets at an average of 32.80 and a strike rate of 72.5. Mushtaq Ahmed had 185 at 32.97 and 67.7, and Intikhab Alam, the first Pakistani wrist-spinner to go past 100 Test wickets, took 125 at 35.95 and 83.7.

Although Kaneria has done exceptionally well against Bangladesh (34 wickets at an average of 16.41 and strike rate of 36.1), he has succeeded against all the frontline teams as well. His Man-of-the-Match awards have come against South Africa, Sri Lanka, and West Indies, in addition to Bangladesh. During Pakistan’s 2005 series in India that was drawn 1-1, he performed better than his revered Indian counterpart Anil Kumble.

Kaneria’s assets include a highly effective googly, an accurate stock ball, and the will to strike back after coming in for some stick. Nevertheless, despite his ability and success, we are still left with a sense that he has not lived up to his promise. There is a feeling that he has not continued to grow as a bowler (he still cannot bowl a flipper, for instance), but to be fair, unimaginative selection is also to blame. With a respectable limited-overs record in domestic English and Pakistan cricket, he deserves greater opportunities in ODIs and Twenty20s. But in nine years of international cricket, he has played only 18 ODIs and not a single Twenty20 international for Pakistan.

Kaneria’s poor batting and fielding are cited as unacceptable limited-overs liabilities, but Saeed Ajmal, a tight spinner who is no better at batting and fielding than Kaneria, has shown you can be effective in limited-overs cricket on the basis of spin alone. The greater barrier is the presence of Shahid Afridi, a transformed wrist-spinner who these days can do no wrong. In the 1920s and 30s, Clarie Grimmett and Bill O’Reilly wreaked havoc as an Australian wrist-spinning partnership, but these days it is sacrilegious to suggest that you play two wrist spinners together. So long as this stale mindset prevails, Kaneria is unlikely to play ODIs or Twenty20s for Pakistan.

He is certainly the best wrist-spinner in Test cricket today, although that isn’t saying much. His natural comparison is with Qadir, but he lacks Qadir’s intensity and repertoire, and has yet to rip through an innings the way Qadir did on a few memorable occasions. Unlike Qadir, he has not mastered the art of flighting the ball and don’t expect him to bowl the ball of the century, because unlike Warne, he cannot get serious turn from balls pitching outside leg.

The flip side of this argument, of course, is that if you just fall short in comparison to the likes of Qadir and Warne, you’re really not doing too badly. Bhagwat Chandrasekhar, Qadir, and Warne, along with Grimmett and O’Reilly, are five wrist-spinners who have made it into Christopher Martin-Jenkins’s ranking of the top 100 cricketers of all time. Will a similar compilation in later years find room for Kaneria? If he can learn one or two more tricks, it just might.

Saad Shafqat is a writer based in Karachi

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  • Omer Khwaja on December 27, 2009, 12:47 GMT

    It is true that Kaneria as a leg spinner may have some techniques to work up on, however you just cannot deny him a place in the odi and t20 squad. Critics who believe he is unable to spin the ball too well to their expectations or his inability to ball the flipper, well then he is definitely on the threashold of becoming the finest wrist sprinner considering the fact that he still cannot bowl the flipper.The 238 wicket achievement hallmark exibits it all since these number of wickets he achieved were not an easy task since he has been in and out of the team courtesy our lethargic, tunnel visioned board.

    He is not to be blame for his accomplishments but to be encouraged for his services and commitment to his country.

    The PCB needs a changeman to revamp the system around which is what all of us can merely hope for. Beaurucrats just cannot do justice to sports, they are too busy investing their efforts to pursue their personal objectives over the job at hand.

  • JOJ, SYLHET, BANGLADESH. on December 27, 2009, 5:29 GMT

    No doubt he is one of the very best.But i think he has 2 improve his fielding & ODI performance!!!!

  • ratee on December 25, 2009, 8:28 GMT

    He is the best spinner Pakistan has produced in statistics. He had no good supporting bowlers at other end, if we can analyze?

    He has not been recognized by our own countrymen. Why cant we evaluate greatness in our players and when we do that its too late. Do not forget how bad is our fielders and wicket keeper who have missed his innumerable catches and stumpings?

    Please give the devil his due!!!

  • Panga Khan on December 22, 2009, 3:09 GMT

    I am sick of reading articles about Kaneria - what he could have done or what he should do. Saad why don't you do an analysis and work out number of catches and stumpings Kamran Akmal has missed off Kaneria. I remember just in one series against England - about 14 to 16. Add up the others and the talk where he would be in terms of wickets. Stop talking about Bangladesh wickets - you take out Bangladest wickets he would still do better than Qadir - he has croosed Qadir in less number of tests - 12. I have seen Qadir in Australia - he was a goat. You talk about running through the innings - despite all those drops and misses by Kamran he has still taken 7 for on four times. Be fair - cricket is a game of numbers and numbers prove Kaneria is way better than Qadir. Also, don't forget Qadir had Imran at the other end. Who is with Kaneria at the other end - dibly dobly door knobs bowlers.

    or is it all about who you are?

  • Nasir Ayub on December 19, 2009, 23:39 GMT

    I disagree that Ajmal is as bad a batsman and fielder as Kaneria. Ajmal's short career so far contain good examples of properly great batting and fielding and is thus an easy pick over Kaneria in ODI. Another factor is his economy in ODI but to be fair with Kaneria, he didn't get a fair chance in ODI. All Kaneria need to do is make a little difference in his batting or fielding or both. He does have a good variety and any addition will be a plus plus. His attitude is not of great players and thats something only he can change, and he should, for good.

  • Ababil on December 17, 2009, 10:49 GMT

    No doubt, Kaneria is a good wrist spinner for test cricket.However,untill & unless he masters some basic tactics & variation in spin,he doesn't seem to be considered for shorter version of the game since pak team has already got two quality spinners(Afridi & Ajmal) for this format.

  • Amjad kiani on December 16, 2009, 14:31 GMT

    I think Kaneria is a fantastic bowler. Kaneria is an improving bowler and his average is getting better i'm sure at the end of his career he will have an excellent career average. Pakistan need to play more Test Cricket and also play Shahid Afridi as well as Saeed Ajmal in the Test team. I think Pakistan should rotate their bowlers according to the pitches and Teams they play against.

  • Mudassar Rana on December 13, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    i think we ought to give kaneria more benfit of the doubt, he has had to contend with perhaps the poorerst fielding side, unimaginative fielding places and kamran akmal dropping catches. despite that he is closing in on 250 test wickets. per haps more help from the likes of qadir and we will have a true great. as previously pointed out murali and warne have taken a large percentage of their wickets against poor players of spin. We are often guilty of downplaying our heroes whereas the western countries over play theirs. warne is a great but we shouldnt forget our players neither.

  • Salman on December 12, 2009, 18:14 GMT

    let me conclude this talk.danish kaneria is the best leg spinner in the world.this is not right to compare anybody with him.he is so enjoyable to watch, tests matches without danish kaneria are so incomplete.he is a kind of bowler who can be fit in any kind of cricket.he has the GOD gifted ability.come on dani come on dani, dani dani dani!

  • waterbuffalo on December 12, 2009, 7:03 GMT

    The pace and bounce in NZ has certainly helped Kaneria, he is taller than Ajmal and can surprise batsmen with his pace, unless Ajmal. The flat , dead wickets of Pakistan are certainly no help to fast or slow bowlers, so he should be given credit for toiling on lifeless pitches against batsmen always plonking their front foot down. Look at India /SL --700 runs by the batting side? Even Murali was helpless, so you can imagine Kaneria's figures if he was bowling there. I like Kaneria because he is a fighter and I think he will do well with the pace and bounce in Australia, the aussies better watch out for this guy. And I hope Kaneria will play in all 3 Tests and in England next summer, where I am certain he will enjoy even more success. Good luck Danish!

  • Omer Khwaja on December 27, 2009, 12:47 GMT

    It is true that Kaneria as a leg spinner may have some techniques to work up on, however you just cannot deny him a place in the odi and t20 squad. Critics who believe he is unable to spin the ball too well to their expectations or his inability to ball the flipper, well then he is definitely on the threashold of becoming the finest wrist sprinner considering the fact that he still cannot bowl the flipper.The 238 wicket achievement hallmark exibits it all since these number of wickets he achieved were not an easy task since he has been in and out of the team courtesy our lethargic, tunnel visioned board.

    He is not to be blame for his accomplishments but to be encouraged for his services and commitment to his country.

    The PCB needs a changeman to revamp the system around which is what all of us can merely hope for. Beaurucrats just cannot do justice to sports, they are too busy investing their efforts to pursue their personal objectives over the job at hand.

  • JOJ, SYLHET, BANGLADESH. on December 27, 2009, 5:29 GMT

    No doubt he is one of the very best.But i think he has 2 improve his fielding & ODI performance!!!!

  • ratee on December 25, 2009, 8:28 GMT

    He is the best spinner Pakistan has produced in statistics. He had no good supporting bowlers at other end, if we can analyze?

    He has not been recognized by our own countrymen. Why cant we evaluate greatness in our players and when we do that its too late. Do not forget how bad is our fielders and wicket keeper who have missed his innumerable catches and stumpings?

    Please give the devil his due!!!

  • Panga Khan on December 22, 2009, 3:09 GMT

    I am sick of reading articles about Kaneria - what he could have done or what he should do. Saad why don't you do an analysis and work out number of catches and stumpings Kamran Akmal has missed off Kaneria. I remember just in one series against England - about 14 to 16. Add up the others and the talk where he would be in terms of wickets. Stop talking about Bangladesh wickets - you take out Bangladest wickets he would still do better than Qadir - he has croosed Qadir in less number of tests - 12. I have seen Qadir in Australia - he was a goat. You talk about running through the innings - despite all those drops and misses by Kamran he has still taken 7 for on four times. Be fair - cricket is a game of numbers and numbers prove Kaneria is way better than Qadir. Also, don't forget Qadir had Imran at the other end. Who is with Kaneria at the other end - dibly dobly door knobs bowlers.

    or is it all about who you are?

  • Nasir Ayub on December 19, 2009, 23:39 GMT

    I disagree that Ajmal is as bad a batsman and fielder as Kaneria. Ajmal's short career so far contain good examples of properly great batting and fielding and is thus an easy pick over Kaneria in ODI. Another factor is his economy in ODI but to be fair with Kaneria, he didn't get a fair chance in ODI. All Kaneria need to do is make a little difference in his batting or fielding or both. He does have a good variety and any addition will be a plus plus. His attitude is not of great players and thats something only he can change, and he should, for good.

  • Ababil on December 17, 2009, 10:49 GMT

    No doubt, Kaneria is a good wrist spinner for test cricket.However,untill & unless he masters some basic tactics & variation in spin,he doesn't seem to be considered for shorter version of the game since pak team has already got two quality spinners(Afridi & Ajmal) for this format.

  • Amjad kiani on December 16, 2009, 14:31 GMT

    I think Kaneria is a fantastic bowler. Kaneria is an improving bowler and his average is getting better i'm sure at the end of his career he will have an excellent career average. Pakistan need to play more Test Cricket and also play Shahid Afridi as well as Saeed Ajmal in the Test team. I think Pakistan should rotate their bowlers according to the pitches and Teams they play against.

  • Mudassar Rana on December 13, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    i think we ought to give kaneria more benfit of the doubt, he has had to contend with perhaps the poorerst fielding side, unimaginative fielding places and kamran akmal dropping catches. despite that he is closing in on 250 test wickets. per haps more help from the likes of qadir and we will have a true great. as previously pointed out murali and warne have taken a large percentage of their wickets against poor players of spin. We are often guilty of downplaying our heroes whereas the western countries over play theirs. warne is a great but we shouldnt forget our players neither.

  • Salman on December 12, 2009, 18:14 GMT

    let me conclude this talk.danish kaneria is the best leg spinner in the world.this is not right to compare anybody with him.he is so enjoyable to watch, tests matches without danish kaneria are so incomplete.he is a kind of bowler who can be fit in any kind of cricket.he has the GOD gifted ability.come on dani come on dani, dani dani dani!

  • waterbuffalo on December 12, 2009, 7:03 GMT

    The pace and bounce in NZ has certainly helped Kaneria, he is taller than Ajmal and can surprise batsmen with his pace, unless Ajmal. The flat , dead wickets of Pakistan are certainly no help to fast or slow bowlers, so he should be given credit for toiling on lifeless pitches against batsmen always plonking their front foot down. Look at India /SL --700 runs by the batting side? Even Murali was helpless, so you can imagine Kaneria's figures if he was bowling there. I like Kaneria because he is a fighter and I think he will do well with the pace and bounce in Australia, the aussies better watch out for this guy. And I hope Kaneria will play in all 3 Tests and in England next summer, where I am certain he will enjoy even more success. Good luck Danish!

  • Zeeshan Ahmed Siddiqui on December 11, 2009, 20:52 GMT

    I think the guys who want Afridi in place of Kaneria has not great sense of test cricket. Reason is that Afridi bowling average is 35 but he is part time bowler. If his bowling average is 34 but his wicket taking ability is more than four per test.

    In W. Indies in 2005, he turned match so quickly that within nine balls he took wicket of Sarwan, Lara and Chanderpaul and turned the series to 1-1, as I think statistic alone cannot judge the exact quality.

    Against England in 2005, within 22 balls, he took three wickets and turned match in team's favor while England were chasing 198. Again within five balls in 2005, he took wicket of Collingwood, Pieterson and Flintoff and turned match to team's favor.

    In 2003 within seven balls, he took wicket of Kirsten, Adams and Pollock and turned match completely in our team's favor.

    Pakistan won 22 matches in which Kaneria played. In November 2004, he took seven wickets against Sri Lanka in which he took three wickets within 19-20 balls.

  • majid hussain on December 11, 2009, 7:51 GMT

    I think the main thing lacking in Kaneria is his in ability to understand the situation. you need to be an intelligent bowler and quick learner to play international cricket. no doubts about his skills but his ability to understand game and batsman is certainly not as good as his counterparts. for exaple saqlain mushtaq not a great spinner of the ball but read bats man mind for his success.

  • Javed Jafri on December 11, 2009, 2:57 GMT

    yeah, i do agree that kaneria have the ability to do better in all version of the of the game of cricket but he has to just work harder and harder to achieve this because there is Shahid Afridi in odi n t20 who can bat n ball so if want his place in odi n t20 than must improve himself as better fielder n lower order batsman as well.

  • Paul Frame on December 11, 2009, 2:20 GMT

    Kaneria is the leading wicket taker in all first-class cricket for the calendar year.

    he's taken 150 wickets and his bowling is the one world class aspect of Essex's bowling attack.

    please Pakistan can you only play him during the 2 test matches in 2010? Essex need him to be playing for us otherwise we'll be relegated!

  • Ahmad on December 10, 2009, 22:08 GMT

    I think that Kaneria is undoubtedly a good bowler for Pakistan. He would stroll into most other test teams around the world but I also agree with some of Saad's frustrations with him. I have never seen him run through a team the way I would want as a Pakistan fan - even when the pitch and the game is set up for him (only we can produce dry spinning wickets when we have the fast bowling line ups that we have). I think that if he plays he should play as a test spinner only because he cant get into the one day squad ahead of Afridi or Ajmal (who I think is a better fielder and batsman than him and very accurate). I agree with Mansoor - how great it would be if we could have Afridi back in the test side in place of Kaneria. He has a bowling average of 32 in the few tests he's played. He's now a much better bowler than then. His 37 batting average and his fielding abilities on top makes it a no brainer for me - has he retired from tests? Danish could also do with learning his quicker ball..

  • Owais on December 10, 2009, 16:27 GMT

    Guys the MAJOR reason for Kaneria's lack of penetration is KAMRAN AKMAL. If we had a decent keeper behind the stumps, Kaneria would have had alteast 25 more scalps and tons of more confidence to give ball more air. Secondly flat Pakistani pitches are also to be blamed. In all the matches he got a stick, did another spinner from PAkistan or the opposing side got more dismissals ??? I dont think so. So it is simple get a decent keeper and you would see that Kaneria is actually living upto his promise.

    As for Akmal, he should be considered only for his batting.

  • Muzammil Saeed on December 10, 2009, 15:49 GMT

    I dont know may be i am wrong, but i have noticed for last couple of years or more, he is not successful with the top 5 batsmen. He usually gets the lower order or may be tail enders more frequently.

  • Mansoor on December 10, 2009, 15:32 GMT

    Kaneria has taken nearly 240 wickets, alright but he has reached his peak a long time ago. He is not improving. He should be replaced by Afridi even in tests. If Afridi is not available, play Saeed Ajmal, who is definitely a better spinner abd batter than Mr Kaneria

  • Hur on December 10, 2009, 13:17 GMT

    He is a good bowler but still perdictable. He needs to learn atleast the flipper. And PCB should give him more chances to play in test so he can grow his ability.

  • Priyank Vaish on December 10, 2009, 13:06 GMT

    True, he is not Warne or Qadir, but this doesn't mean that he lacks the quality. His strike rate is pretty decent and if he continues to bowl good in tests there are chances he may crack into the shorter version. Anil Kumble also doesn't have much variety until he discovers googly or wrong one later in his career, so Kaneria has much opportunity to explore in near future. Moreover, Pakistan doesn't has genuine spinner in its side, so he is the future of pakistan's spin department...

  • Abbas on December 10, 2009, 11:35 GMT

    Fully agree with Saad.

  • Zulfiqar on December 10, 2009, 10:04 GMT

    How can he improve his test performances by playing ODIs or T20? As u said he lacks a proper flipper,without that kind of variety on flat pitches against attacking batsmen i don,t think he can get much success. And who would u play him in place of? Ajmal?who is probably Pakistan best one day bowler right now.I dont think u thought it through.

    In tests he has not won Pakistan as many matches as he should have done and there maybe couple of more reasons for it. Lack of sport from other end for most of his career,Unlike Qadir or Mushtaq who had always good fast bowlers in the team to soften up the opposition.And i think even they still under achieved in their careers. Secondly from 2006 onwards he had many dropped catches of his bowling specially by wicket keeper.And on top of that field placements are mostly poor too. Having said that he needs to develop a faster one and be more consistent with his stock ball as well.There,s always a boundary ball coming even when he is bowling well.

  • shafi on December 10, 2009, 10:01 GMT

    Why is there a need to highlight Kaneria's wicket taking again Bangladesh? Murali has taken 175 of his wickets against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe (almost a quarter of all the wickets he's taken) but that never seems to be a highlighted statistic. Another stat that never gets mentioned is that almost 2/3rds of Murali's wickets have been taken at home (Kaneria's split is nearer 50-50). And finally, the golden source of all cricket stats: The average. Murali's average goes from 19odd at home to almost 28 away, Kaneria's average stays about the same.

    I'm not a Pakistan or SL fan but I am really fed up of Kaneria only ever getting criticism masked as praise. He's one of the most consistent spinners ever and really does deserve more credit especially considering the majority of his career hasn't been spent playing on doctored pitches or inferior teams to get his stats up.

  • Ashwath on December 10, 2009, 8:21 GMT

    I have always had a bone to pick with kaneria in that he never turned his leg spinners from leg stump enough. I really dont think that he can be called a great spinner maybe not even a good spinner in the times i have seen him bowl. I remember that 2005 series against India and Kumble was frequently made to look mediocre by the pakistan line-up. The only reason Kaneria picked up wickets was because the Indians went after him as the weak link in the team that he rightly was. Even in the match which Pakistan won in Bangalore it was Afridi with his skidders who took more wickets. Kaneria always seens to give too many boundary balls and doesnt seem to sustain pressure for more than a couple of overs. That said it is exceedingly difficult for a leg spinner to consistently stick to a particular line and length. One aspect of Kaneria's bowling which i do like is his use of the googly. He doesnt overly depend on it like Mushtaq ahmed later in his career or saqlain with his doosra.

  • Nisarg Dalal on December 10, 2009, 7:52 GMT

    Agreed and accepted Shane Warne is one of the great spinners and Abdul Qadir was more than a utility spinner. Truth is Shane Warne was hit for highest no of sixes. His record against India in both tests and odi are below average. Kambli has hit him for 34 runs in 1 over. In 15-16 test matches he has taken 43 wickets, against Srilanka he's slightly better.Only Australia is as good as Srilanka in spinners and behind India. Doing well against other teams is not so great. Kumble inspite of Harbhajan has taken more than 4.5 wickets per test. Shane has done same but played good no of test matches against U.K.,Nz & Sa which are below average against spinners.Pak is also avg. Even Rameez Raza n Steve Waugh have accepted India n Srilanka are superior players against spinners.Anil Kumble has taken 111 wickets in 20 tests against Australia n has taken more than 4 wickets per match against Srilanka. No doubt Murali is best.Kaneria is slightly better than shane and 100 times superior to Abdul Qadir

  • Sudhir on December 10, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    I remember seeing Kaneria playing against South Africa a few years ago. He certainly created chances, only to be let down by Akmal behind the stumps. It seemed that for every wicket he took, he could have taken another one if it wasnt for Akmals crappy glovework. If he were helped out by his fielders more often he could easily have gotten 10%-20% more wickets. I am not sure how much Akmal + Pakistani fielding has improved since then but that was my opinion of how things were during that SA Pak clash.

  • Irfan Rizvi on December 10, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    Nice article,

    I ahve a question what is the difference between the ball of the century by warne to Gatting and the ball Danish took wicket of Mccullum in the 2nd Innings of the 2nd test match. Not much right, but this ball will never get its due credit.

  • eastasia on December 10, 2009, 5:36 GMT

    Well Put Saad, we would have expected much more from Kaneria when he emerged on the scene several years back but I guess he has let himself down. Being successful at the county level does not necessary ensure that you will do the same at international level where most of the batsmen have better technique to deal with his routine variations. I disagree with your take on Saeed Ajmal's batting and fielding skills, I think he is one of the good fielders in our team these days and his batting is much better than Danesh. His performance against NZ in the last ODI was as good as it can be.

    I think the best indicator of your lethalness comes from the fact that how much respect you get from the opposition. I think Kaneria has not stood up to his image he created early in his career and no top opposition would consider him as a major threat anymore. He leaks run as if it is blood and he is not dare enough to challenge the batsman with his bowling, instead his overtalking is rather foolish.

  • NS on December 10, 2009, 5:08 GMT

    RUBBISH!Kaneria is a genius bowler,should be selected for all forms of the game,and this is article is very demeaning for him.And about no great spin,have you already forgotton his magic ball against G.Smith of SA.I believe you should re-write this article.

  • Hassan Abbas on December 10, 2009, 5:02 GMT

    An average of 42.31 vs Australia, 45.14 vs England, 41.48 vs India and 35.92 vs West Indies and you are still questioning whether he can be great or not? Not to say that he is such a liability in the field and with the bat.

    Trust me if we had utilized Afridi in place of him for such a long time as a regular legspinner, we would have been better off as not only is he a better bowler than Kenria, he is far much better in the field and with the bat, moreover he is a pure captaincy material. We have lost a lot over the years by stamping Afridi with the 'Oneday Player' logo.

  • Naveed Shehzad on December 10, 2009, 3:45 GMT

    I totally agree. Kaneria is one of the most under-rated bowler, when it comes to test cricket. Not many people knows that he has got almost 250 wickets. There must be a permanent place for him in the test cricket, He still had to work hard (as you said) to cement his place in limited overs cricket.

  • Chandrasekaran on December 10, 2009, 3:13 GMT

    I feel bad for Pakistan cricket, really dont understand whats going on there? Thiugh situations are not that good in India either. Both the countries should learn from lanka who developed Murali. Initially Murali had only the big off spin in his repertoire but they made him a world class. Also having seen kaneria, he must develop more variations and try and wipe out the lower middle order and lower order batsman which Anil Kumble did to perfection. Mind you he also cannot spin the ball great deal. And finally no comparisons please. If any serious Pakistani is reading this ask your board to invest more on this man than the likes of Shoaib Malik.

  • Zubair Khan on December 10, 2009, 1:09 GMT

    A good article but i dont agree with you. As a Pakistani, i would love to see Kaneria achieve greatness and become one of the best wrist spinner of all time, but thats just a hope! Kaneria may not have the flipper (or doesnt bowl it properly, whatever) he still have good enough armoury to wreck any team on a given day, especially his googly! He has done it before and he can do it again, he just needed to be retained in the Pakistani team for as long as possible, you cant just leave a bowler like Kaneria out for a couple of bad performances, i mean come on man, he has got more than 200 wickets in his resume, you need to retain him atleast in the test team for the next 2 to 3 years and see how he performs.

  • dr s n hyder on December 9, 2009, 22:27 GMT

    well this is a well known fact that absolute success of a spinner depends upon an exceptionally good wicketkeeper and very agile close in fielders.The fact is just opposite and is`main reason behind failure`of Danish.

  • eddy on December 9, 2009, 21:50 GMT

    Kenaria should focus on his consistency of his bowling, and if we can improve his batting then he can be a useful player in all forms of cricket. These days, especially in one day and t20, you must be a complete cricketer

  • nadeem on December 9, 2009, 20:45 GMT

    Saad, I agree with you about kaneria. He is a best wrist spinner available in tests. I think he along with ajmal will play an improtant role in the tour of Australia. I was delighted the way pakistan bowled in newzeland till now. If they continue the same performance they can give a depleted Aussies a run for their money. The real problem for pakistan is Batting and Fielding (catching). If the batsmen can get big hundreds and fielders hold on to their catches then aussies can be pushed to the wall

  • Umer Rana on December 9, 2009, 19:44 GMT

    Mow Kaneria has developed a flipper which he used in last test match and his control is improving as their are use of variation and less long hoops or full tosses. Keep your fingers cross for a great wrist spin show down in coming days.

  • liaqat on December 9, 2009, 19:34 GMT

    good article. but i feel kaneria has let pakistan down on occasion when his been given a 5th day pitch and failed for deliver,, and during 05..07 almost kamran akmal didnt help kaneria's cause, but credit to him what ever happened to pakistan, kaneria carried on,

  • Affan Ahmed Siddiqui on December 9, 2009, 19:30 GMT

    Sorry, Saeed Ajmal is much more reliable with bat and on the field than Danish Kaneria. Looking at his fielding in T20 World Cup and his batting sense against New Zealand in the final one day of the series one can easily see the difference.

    No doubt of Kaneria's ability , his stats and fact that for years he has been highest wicket taker for Pakistan but he hasn't been that threatening or close to that of great wrist spinners.

  • Sam on December 9, 2009, 18:22 GMT

    glad you talked about kaneria !

    the reason this bloke doesn't perform is because he is impatient. he doesn't have the patience to ball 2 - 3 overs of leg spin(during this period he experiments leg spin/googly/flipper/straighter one). you name one variety and he possesses it. he has everything to become a world class wrist spinner ( turn / bounce due to his height / variety ) yet he averages in the mid 30's with the bowl TC. to sum it up he is somewhat doing unjust to his own talent. i have been a huge fan of him from day 1. And i know one thing that by the time he retires he'd be known as one of the great leg spinners along with Qadir,Warne etc )

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  • Sam on December 9, 2009, 18:22 GMT

    glad you talked about kaneria !

    the reason this bloke doesn't perform is because he is impatient. he doesn't have the patience to ball 2 - 3 overs of leg spin(during this period he experiments leg spin/googly/flipper/straighter one). you name one variety and he possesses it. he has everything to become a world class wrist spinner ( turn / bounce due to his height / variety ) yet he averages in the mid 30's with the bowl TC. to sum it up he is somewhat doing unjust to his own talent. i have been a huge fan of him from day 1. And i know one thing that by the time he retires he'd be known as one of the great leg spinners along with Qadir,Warne etc )

  • Affan Ahmed Siddiqui on December 9, 2009, 19:30 GMT

    Sorry, Saeed Ajmal is much more reliable with bat and on the field than Danish Kaneria. Looking at his fielding in T20 World Cup and his batting sense against New Zealand in the final one day of the series one can easily see the difference.

    No doubt of Kaneria's ability , his stats and fact that for years he has been highest wicket taker for Pakistan but he hasn't been that threatening or close to that of great wrist spinners.

  • liaqat on December 9, 2009, 19:34 GMT

    good article. but i feel kaneria has let pakistan down on occasion when his been given a 5th day pitch and failed for deliver,, and during 05..07 almost kamran akmal didnt help kaneria's cause, but credit to him what ever happened to pakistan, kaneria carried on,

  • Umer Rana on December 9, 2009, 19:44 GMT

    Mow Kaneria has developed a flipper which he used in last test match and his control is improving as their are use of variation and less long hoops or full tosses. Keep your fingers cross for a great wrist spin show down in coming days.

  • nadeem on December 9, 2009, 20:45 GMT

    Saad, I agree with you about kaneria. He is a best wrist spinner available in tests. I think he along with ajmal will play an improtant role in the tour of Australia. I was delighted the way pakistan bowled in newzeland till now. If they continue the same performance they can give a depleted Aussies a run for their money. The real problem for pakistan is Batting and Fielding (catching). If the batsmen can get big hundreds and fielders hold on to their catches then aussies can be pushed to the wall

  • eddy on December 9, 2009, 21:50 GMT

    Kenaria should focus on his consistency of his bowling, and if we can improve his batting then he can be a useful player in all forms of cricket. These days, especially in one day and t20, you must be a complete cricketer

  • dr s n hyder on December 9, 2009, 22:27 GMT

    well this is a well known fact that absolute success of a spinner depends upon an exceptionally good wicketkeeper and very agile close in fielders.The fact is just opposite and is`main reason behind failure`of Danish.

  • Zubair Khan on December 10, 2009, 1:09 GMT

    A good article but i dont agree with you. As a Pakistani, i would love to see Kaneria achieve greatness and become one of the best wrist spinner of all time, but thats just a hope! Kaneria may not have the flipper (or doesnt bowl it properly, whatever) he still have good enough armoury to wreck any team on a given day, especially his googly! He has done it before and he can do it again, he just needed to be retained in the Pakistani team for as long as possible, you cant just leave a bowler like Kaneria out for a couple of bad performances, i mean come on man, he has got more than 200 wickets in his resume, you need to retain him atleast in the test team for the next 2 to 3 years and see how he performs.

  • Chandrasekaran on December 10, 2009, 3:13 GMT

    I feel bad for Pakistan cricket, really dont understand whats going on there? Thiugh situations are not that good in India either. Both the countries should learn from lanka who developed Murali. Initially Murali had only the big off spin in his repertoire but they made him a world class. Also having seen kaneria, he must develop more variations and try and wipe out the lower middle order and lower order batsman which Anil Kumble did to perfection. Mind you he also cannot spin the ball great deal. And finally no comparisons please. If any serious Pakistani is reading this ask your board to invest more on this man than the likes of Shoaib Malik.

  • Naveed Shehzad on December 10, 2009, 3:45 GMT

    I totally agree. Kaneria is one of the most under-rated bowler, when it comes to test cricket. Not many people knows that he has got almost 250 wickets. There must be a permanent place for him in the test cricket, He still had to work hard (as you said) to cement his place in limited overs cricket.