Ranji Trophy, 2009-10 January 25, 2010

Ranji points system needs a makeover

 
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The loop holes in the points system, perhaps, gave Mumbai the leeway to not force the issue and hence find their way through © Cricinfo Ltd
 

A bulk of the Ranji Trophy matches played this season were neither won nor lost, they were drawn. So much so, that only one outright win was enough to take Mumbai into the finals this season. The loop holes in the points system, perhaps, gave Mumbai the leeway to not force the issue and hence find their way through.

The BCCI’s scheme of granting one bonus point for every outright win with ten wickets or an innings could prove to be a good attempt in taking things forward. The plan, in fact secured Delhi its place in the Ranji knock-outs. Yet, most teams are not willing to go that extra yard. After all, taking twenty wickets is quite a task, which requires both quality and physical strength amongst the bowlers.

Perhaps, it’s time to give the Ranji Trophy a facelift and make the ‘system’ and the approach a lot more exciting. How about making the first-innings lead not as significant in the scheme of things? How about giving teams a substantial initiative for winning the game?

My suggestion would be to:

a) introduce the system of grace points for batting and bowling b) to either completely do away with the points for first-innings lead, or to give them away nominally.

Sample this – A maximum of five batting points shall be awarded starting with 125 runs on the scorecard. After which the batting team would get a point each for every 75 runs scored till they reach a total of 425 runs, which means a maximum of five batting points. For the bowling team, every two wickets taken would mean a bowling point.

Now to make things a bit more interesting, the batting points would only be available till the 125th over. This essentially means the batting side has to maintain a healthy scoring rate of 3.40 runs per over, ensuring that teams don’t consume time without scoring at a brisk rate. As for the bowling side, they can get bowling points till the entire opposition is bowled out. By doing this the batting side would want to declare after batting for 125 overs as it’s only the bowling side which can gain points after that. Points for the team which bags the first-innings lead could also be granted, though not in excess.

As for the second innings, there should be at least ten points at stake for an outright win. By doing this both teams would try to set up the match in a way where both teams have a realistic chance of winning the game. The team batting last will have a good chance to win the game and hence teams may be tempted to field first on more occasions. This may also negate the impact of the toss on the game.

This system can be followed in the league phase because if some teams still don’t force the issue, they run a risk of finding themselves in the relegation zone very quickly. But for the knockouts, we can put a limit to the maximum number of overs at a team’s disposal (125 overs in the first innings and 100 overs each in the second assuming it’s a five-day match) which in turn would give us an outright result every time.

Former India opener Aakash Chopra is the author of Out of the Blue, an account of Rajasthan's 2010-11 Ranji Trophy victory. His website is here and his Twitter feed here

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  • saikatb on February 16, 2010, 18:03 GMT

    A 5 day match is an unrestricted form cricket and there in lies its beauty; to remain an interesting form of cricket, there has to be a good contest between bat and ball and which consequently will produce good cricketers. Anything point system proposed here can and will be gamed by the teams involved to gain ranking in the league. I say that in the true spirit of an open game of cricket, there should be no point system based on runs scored or wickets taken at all. Only outright results should be rewarded and rewarded well. Say, 4 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss. A team winning 1 match, loosing 3 should be ranked above a team drawing 4. Keep it simple and keep it open.

  • Dev on January 29, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    I fully agree with the author on the change of points system. Inspite of being a die hard Mumbai fan, i felt a little sheepish, when the trophy was being awarded, only 1 out right win and we are the winners ?! not fair. The rule of bonus point on first innings lead has to be made stringent, teams should be made to earn points on batting and bowling. The idea of points for wickets taken is splendid. Hope the genuine BCCI officials are reading, and not the likes of Modi. IPL is a breeze. Its already collecting muck and will soon lose its flavour. Ranji will stay on.

  • Prasad on January 28, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Its a very good post. It is hard to believe that Mumbai just won only one match before winning the finals. The 4 day matches should be scrapped and all the teams should play 5 day matches in the Ranji season, then we get to see the matches like this season's finals.

  • atul jain on January 28, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    Your concern is legitimate,I also have an alternative. This is each team playing 90 overs each, and if they are bowled out earlier, choice of extra overs left to the side earning them i.e they may utilise for themselves. This way both the innings are ensured and real talent could be unearthed. Other modalities could worked on this model. Important thing is to have a result at any cost and at the same time enough exposure for both the teams. Toss does not become the deciding factor.

  • Bob on January 28, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    I agree with the writer that something needs to be done about teams choosing to go for a draw instead of an outright win. Maybe some point system like the ICC test rankings. It was disappointing to see Mumbai & other teams not enforce a follow on or put the opposition in to bat. Internationally we are seeing quite a few result oriented Test matches being played out. A point system which favors a team taking a first innings lead effectively destroys the essence of Test Cricket which allows a Team to come back, fighting. eg. India vs Australia (the Laxman, Dravid & Bhajji show), recent SA vs Eng series... The gaps between matches will help as then Teams will not need to 'preserve' their bowlers. The home and away concept would be awesome dimension. Also making the matches full fledged 5 dayers give more time to obtain a result. The point system for runs in stages may be unfair if pitch conditions are taken into consideration. All in all a shake up is reqd.

  • Fireclown on January 28, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Australia did away with bonus points years ago, our first class games are played on the basis of 2 points for a first innings lead, and 6 points for an outright victory. It works thus, team a leads by 100 runs on first innungs, but team b wins out right....team a gets 2 points, team b gets 6 points. However, if team a leads by 100 on first innings and wins outright, then team a still only receives the 6 points for an outright win. Seems to work well, our test team, for which first class cricket should produce players, is one of the hardest comptitions in the world, and our test teams have dominated for a long while. Could be worth a thought. Australia used the bonus points system in various ways through the 1970's and 80's and our test team then was crap. Work it out for yourself i think

  • Ameesh Oza on January 28, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    I would like to interject that multi-day sports are a dying breed. Cricket is a game not a sport. When people had time and few other interests it made sense to watch the game. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful sport, but also an anachronism. Modern life does not allow one to spend days, even many hours watching one game. Of course T-20 is not the answer. I would rather watch baseball. And with modern bats and batting wickets and tiny boundaries it becomes even less of a sport. But what to do? Do I just watch the highlights on TV? That's what T-20 is, is it not? We do not even have time to watch one-day games anymore. If Akash can make a case for a compact form that is not like T-20 but more like traditional cricket he would probably be a rich man. My suggestion is T-20 played without helmets, with lighter bats like old and with more masculine boundaries. Now that would even up the field and make it more interesting. One suggestion was to make the balls smaller!! That might work.

  • Sachin Fan on January 28, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    Nice thought and nice posts too. Lucky that Indian cricket has so many ardent followers that think about the domestic game. I think the games should be extended by 30-45 mins everyday to ensure there are atleast 100 overs everyday, then 4 days would be fine. Regarding the distribution of points, I don't think there should be a limit on no of overs, because that is where Test cricket is different from one day. If the focus shifts to no of overs and run rate, then it will be nothing but a extended one day game (Which itself is boring now). Think about a situation where team batting first on a green top takes 100 overs to get to 300 and the other team gets 450 in 100 overs the next day when the sun's out and the wicket is flat. It would be unfair. The beauty about test cricket is so there are so many unpredictable factors that players have to adapt to and perform.

    All said and done...nice thoughts by everyone out here! Kudos..!

  • paddle_sweep on January 27, 2010, 16:32 GMT

    Why we can't we have sporting pitches?That would help the country as a whole instead of coming with a point system which is prone to misuse either ways.The only reliable solution that I could think is to have a limited set of teams competing for the Ranji trophy and let us produce result oriented pitches instead of flat tracks and let's make Ranji Trophy from Q/F as 5 day affairs.

  • Nakshatrika on January 27, 2010, 14:45 GMT

    This is a good thought. But little flawed. Think of a team making 200 on a difficult pitch getting less points compared to a team scoring 425 on batting first, conceeding 425 to opposition and back again to make 425 and taking away maximum batting points on a flat track ensuring match ends in draw. More sadness if both the teams getting to 200 in their first innings on a bowling track and match being washed away. This points system is flawed. Instead there should be a calculation based on batting average (runs/wicket) and same for bowling. This will take away the beauty from field to calculators :(

  • saikatb on February 16, 2010, 18:03 GMT

    A 5 day match is an unrestricted form cricket and there in lies its beauty; to remain an interesting form of cricket, there has to be a good contest between bat and ball and which consequently will produce good cricketers. Anything point system proposed here can and will be gamed by the teams involved to gain ranking in the league. I say that in the true spirit of an open game of cricket, there should be no point system based on runs scored or wickets taken at all. Only outright results should be rewarded and rewarded well. Say, 4 points for win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss. A team winning 1 match, loosing 3 should be ranked above a team drawing 4. Keep it simple and keep it open.

  • Dev on January 29, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    I fully agree with the author on the change of points system. Inspite of being a die hard Mumbai fan, i felt a little sheepish, when the trophy was being awarded, only 1 out right win and we are the winners ?! not fair. The rule of bonus point on first innings lead has to be made stringent, teams should be made to earn points on batting and bowling. The idea of points for wickets taken is splendid. Hope the genuine BCCI officials are reading, and not the likes of Modi. IPL is a breeze. Its already collecting muck and will soon lose its flavour. Ranji will stay on.

  • Prasad on January 28, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Its a very good post. It is hard to believe that Mumbai just won only one match before winning the finals. The 4 day matches should be scrapped and all the teams should play 5 day matches in the Ranji season, then we get to see the matches like this season's finals.

  • atul jain on January 28, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    Your concern is legitimate,I also have an alternative. This is each team playing 90 overs each, and if they are bowled out earlier, choice of extra overs left to the side earning them i.e they may utilise for themselves. This way both the innings are ensured and real talent could be unearthed. Other modalities could worked on this model. Important thing is to have a result at any cost and at the same time enough exposure for both the teams. Toss does not become the deciding factor.

  • Bob on January 28, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    I agree with the writer that something needs to be done about teams choosing to go for a draw instead of an outright win. Maybe some point system like the ICC test rankings. It was disappointing to see Mumbai & other teams not enforce a follow on or put the opposition in to bat. Internationally we are seeing quite a few result oriented Test matches being played out. A point system which favors a team taking a first innings lead effectively destroys the essence of Test Cricket which allows a Team to come back, fighting. eg. India vs Australia (the Laxman, Dravid & Bhajji show), recent SA vs Eng series... The gaps between matches will help as then Teams will not need to 'preserve' their bowlers. The home and away concept would be awesome dimension. Also making the matches full fledged 5 dayers give more time to obtain a result. The point system for runs in stages may be unfair if pitch conditions are taken into consideration. All in all a shake up is reqd.

  • Fireclown on January 28, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    Australia did away with bonus points years ago, our first class games are played on the basis of 2 points for a first innings lead, and 6 points for an outright victory. It works thus, team a leads by 100 runs on first innungs, but team b wins out right....team a gets 2 points, team b gets 6 points. However, if team a leads by 100 on first innings and wins outright, then team a still only receives the 6 points for an outright win. Seems to work well, our test team, for which first class cricket should produce players, is one of the hardest comptitions in the world, and our test teams have dominated for a long while. Could be worth a thought. Australia used the bonus points system in various ways through the 1970's and 80's and our test team then was crap. Work it out for yourself i think

  • Ameesh Oza on January 28, 2010, 3:53 GMT

    I would like to interject that multi-day sports are a dying breed. Cricket is a game not a sport. When people had time and few other interests it made sense to watch the game. Don't get me wrong it is a beautiful sport, but also an anachronism. Modern life does not allow one to spend days, even many hours watching one game. Of course T-20 is not the answer. I would rather watch baseball. And with modern bats and batting wickets and tiny boundaries it becomes even less of a sport. But what to do? Do I just watch the highlights on TV? That's what T-20 is, is it not? We do not even have time to watch one-day games anymore. If Akash can make a case for a compact form that is not like T-20 but more like traditional cricket he would probably be a rich man. My suggestion is T-20 played without helmets, with lighter bats like old and with more masculine boundaries. Now that would even up the field and make it more interesting. One suggestion was to make the balls smaller!! That might work.

  • Sachin Fan on January 28, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    Nice thought and nice posts too. Lucky that Indian cricket has so many ardent followers that think about the domestic game. I think the games should be extended by 30-45 mins everyday to ensure there are atleast 100 overs everyday, then 4 days would be fine. Regarding the distribution of points, I don't think there should be a limit on no of overs, because that is where Test cricket is different from one day. If the focus shifts to no of overs and run rate, then it will be nothing but a extended one day game (Which itself is boring now). Think about a situation where team batting first on a green top takes 100 overs to get to 300 and the other team gets 450 in 100 overs the next day when the sun's out and the wicket is flat. It would be unfair. The beauty about test cricket is so there are so many unpredictable factors that players have to adapt to and perform.

    All said and done...nice thoughts by everyone out here! Kudos..!

  • paddle_sweep on January 27, 2010, 16:32 GMT

    Why we can't we have sporting pitches?That would help the country as a whole instead of coming with a point system which is prone to misuse either ways.The only reliable solution that I could think is to have a limited set of teams competing for the Ranji trophy and let us produce result oriented pitches instead of flat tracks and let's make Ranji Trophy from Q/F as 5 day affairs.

  • Nakshatrika on January 27, 2010, 14:45 GMT

    This is a good thought. But little flawed. Think of a team making 200 on a difficult pitch getting less points compared to a team scoring 425 on batting first, conceeding 425 to opposition and back again to make 425 and taking away maximum batting points on a flat track ensuring match ends in draw. More sadness if both the teams getting to 200 in their first innings on a bowling track and match being washed away. This points system is flawed. Instead there should be a calculation based on batting average (runs/wicket) and same for bowling. This will take away the beauty from field to calculators :(

  • paddle_sweep on January 27, 2010, 14:16 GMT

    Akash,It's a good article. If you really believe that the current points system needs a overhaul then you should take up your proposal and convince the stakeholders for a change.I think there is plenty of opportunity to do this in India and I would expect the cricketers to be pro-active and be the driving factor in getting the changes done.

    Cheers

  • gomakant on January 27, 2010, 11:15 GMT

    Is the BCCI listening to all this posts and of course to Akash's blog? Akash, I think you should take this up with cricketers like Saurav, Sachin, Kumble and Rahul and check out their views and ask them to take it up with their respective State Associations. Only when the proposal comes from the States the BCCi might lend an ear or two. You may not get the credit, but Indian Cricket will definitely progress. I also agree with most of the postings. You can also add some from the posts and redraw the final system before sharing the same with the ex and present cricketers. Taking their view, the same could be circulated with the State Associations. You should also take this up with Shastri, Vengsarkar, Gavaskar, Harsha Bhogle and other eminent commentators and whose-who of Indian cricket, if you intend to make this Happen. My best wishes to You and the BCCI, Hope you all can revive the Indian Domestic Cricket. Hope the stadia and ground facilities are improved for the spectators interest.

  • Hemendra Bhatia on January 27, 2010, 6:43 GMT

    We should Simply Follow the System from ICC Inter Continental Cup for League Phase. Where First Innings Points are Seprate from the Points for Out Right Win. That is at the Moment Mumbai gets Three Points if they take First Innings Lead and Draw -which Goes up by Two Points to Five if they Win and Down by 3 To Zero if they Loose. Instead they would be Forcing the Issue - if They would Retain Three Points of Lead - if they Win they Get to 3+5=8-in Case of Loss they Still Have 3+0= 3 Points. Have Knock Out Matches over Five Days. And Yes. Concerns Expressed about When you Have Batting and Bowling Points are Genuine so no need for that.

  • Yayathy Raj on January 27, 2010, 3:19 GMT

    Since it is a domestic format, this idea sounds very interesting. Hope BCCI lend ears to this...

    Cheers!!!!!

  • Prashant on January 27, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    Why is it that every time Mumbai wins the Ranji, people want to change the system? First things first - yes the current system is bad (but remember, the rules are there for everybody and all teams knew that before hand!) and needs a overhaul.

    Rather than making it more complicated, lets make it simple and interesting.

    The issues - grounds, conditions and public also make a lot of difference. Ideal would be for all teams to play against each other (home & away ties) that way you have same environment for all teams!

    Just food for thought!

    Outright victory -10 points Batting points - 1 point for every 100 runs (or part thereoff after 200 runs) Bowling points - 1 point for every wickt (or part thereoff after 7 wickets) Bonus - Batting - if achieved the target in 80% overs then 2 points Bonus - Bowling - if restricted opposition to 80% of target then 2 points

    Over restrictions - 1st innings 145 overs perside Second innings - 90 overs max.

    I can go on in detail!

  • Naman on January 26, 2010, 20:33 GMT

    Akash, This is similar to the points system of the old (about 15 years ago). This system was dicontinued because it allowed teams to "adjust" the points they earned (you very well know what I mean). Please dont come up with suggestions just for the sake of creating writing material.

  • srinis1@yahoo.com on January 26, 2010, 17:17 GMT

    Simple. No points at all for first innings lead. Point per wicket for bowling teams. Batting team gets 5 points for a score of 400+ in 120 overs. If they don't, no batting points. Outright win, irrespective of scores get 10 points. innings victory gets 20 points. So, the onus is on solid batting for 120 overs, then go ahead and try to bowl teams out. The home association will get 5 points for preparing a result oriented wicket. At the end of the season, the home associations are rewarded based on points earned. To hell with this first innigs lead. This breeds ordinary players (who was that guy that batted for 1000 minutes for his century?) and weeds out players of the calibre Sitanshu Kotak. This also encourages players to score at a faster clip and attacking fielding.

  • deadball on January 26, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    Hello Akash. There definitely needs a change in some of the rules in Ranji.

    The first one is granting the finalists of the previous year #1 rankings in the qualifying stage. That makes no sense whatsoever. It was an old rule when there was just a semifinals in the knockout stages. This undermines the group stage winners. Like this year, Mumbai were #3 in their group but got #1 rank due to being last year's finalists and thus got to play Haryana ( plate team). Whereas Tamil Nadu, the winners of their respective group, had to play Delhi.

    Please eliminate this stupid rule.

    And secondly, for the knockout stage, the games should be 5 days.

  • prasad nambiar on January 26, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    i endorse akash's sugestion.i also think that division of teams into Elite& Plate shoulid be done away with.The teams should be divided into four grops and the top two teams from each group should play on a round robin format.

  • Dylan on January 26, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    Good post. Point System must be changed in such a way that there is a large gap between points earned by outright win and points earned by first-inning lead. Also in order to space out matches, the league must be broken down into a 3-tier tournament (instead of present 2). So we could have 10 in first, 10 in 2nd and 7 in 3rd. Then 10 teams are divided into 5. Also one-day tournaments must be held in between 2 ranji matches similar to Australian calendar.

  • Ashok Rajamani on January 26, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    As somebody else said, a similar system existed in the 80s and early 90s. Maybe the solution is simply better pitches and points only for outright wins. And a 12 team league with only the top two going to the finals. If the finals is a draw the winner will be the one with most the wins in the league stage (& other tie break criteria can be determined after that.)

  • Amit on January 26, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    Agree with your system of points. Also, put a limit to the number of overs available to the teams per match. Assuming 300 overs min. are going to be bowled in a match, the limit should be 150 overs per team per match. How to use their overs should be upon the teams, they can use all 150 in the first innings or 100 +50 or 75+75, as they may like. If the team is dismissed to a lesser no. of overs in the first innings, it can use the remaining in the second.

    Also, there should be points for the run rate. Teams get no point for run rate upto 3, 1 for run rate between 3 & 3.5 and so on (max 5 points).

    Make the knockout games 5 dayers.

  • Anish on January 25, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    I don't agree with this point system. Simply because it all depends upon kind of wicket you play. One has to look for result, but can not be majored by number of runs scored and that too in limited number of overs. Already with Twenty20 cricket, players are looking to score more freely and find difficulties to stand in test matches when situaiton is demanding.And why blame this point system? This may not be perfect but definately not that bad for good teams to mis out on semi-final/final berths. Team that is consistent with performance (this means superiority over opposition in any playing condition,ie. good or bad pitches, weather, etc) deserves tobe in final than the one with mixed performance. Even in world cup, one bad game and team is thrown out of event, however better it is than others(ask S.Africa). What matters most is teams/players to learn to play well under all situations. Thats what young Mumbai team did. Others should examine why they lost finals place after good season.

  • subhash on January 25, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Sound gud but i have a doubt. Won't the cap on number of overs available in knockouts (even in league as well though to lesser extent) give the fielding side too much of an advantage. Knowing that batting side has to score quickly, they might opt for negative line and pack up the leg side. Batsmen looking to score briskly will need to take chances. How do we address this concern?

  • Tamoghna Roy on January 25, 2010, 16:12 GMT

    Interesting suggestions, but I feel the points should be given only if 250 overs are bowled or 20 wickets fell. In a rain affected match where only one innigs is completed and the other is stopped prematuredly, the team batting first shouldn't get any undue advantage

  • Tamoghna Roy on January 25, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Interesting suggestions, but I feel the points should be given only if 250 overs are bowled or 20 wickets fell. In a rain affected match where only one innigs is completed and the other is stopped prematuredly, the team batting first shouldn't get any undue advantage

  • Rahul Shirodkar on January 25, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    Who is going to do it Akash? We have too many people putting the things which should be done, but no one is taking the initiative. Why not have players who make difference like Sachin , Rahul, explayers like Sauarav take initiative and do some thing about this. Some body needs to take the issue with BCCI ( who is the least interested body) in our cricket.

  • Nazeer on January 25, 2010, 14:16 GMT

    Why complain mumbai, they not only play well, but play with lot of calculations, they adapt to a format very quickly, thats why they are champions, their ultimate goal is to win the cup, not to please the public or media. Well done mumbai, if you change the format, they have another answer for that for which they are capable. Why the bowlers have to struggle after they have ensured 1st innings lead, its not easy to topple the top order, especially with jaffar and rahane at the top.

  • Kiran on January 25, 2010, 11:43 GMT

    Yah I do agree with the change over. Mumbai team just had one win and did not deserve to be in final, yah hats off to their attitude to win the last match but I guess teams like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, New Delhi played much much better than Mumbai and these teams deserved to be in finals for their win or lose attitude whereas Mumbai were happy with just first innings lead which is sober and other change we need was the play though Karnataka and TN topped the tables, Mumbai and UP were let to play plate group finalists which is ridiculous after so much of hardwork from Karnataka and TN, Mumbai and UP get rewards its just disgusting.

  • Mukul Agarwal on January 25, 2010, 11:02 GMT

    There was such a system in the early 90s. Every win got 16 points and 4 bowling points each for bowling and batting, with 4 points for 1st innings win. This was at a time when there were regional leagues Why was this changed. This was a good system. Moreover, there should be 3 leagues instead of 2, with 9 teams in each and home and away matches, entailing 16 matches each side. One match a week for 16 weeks from October 15 to February. the final to be played between the top 2 teams. Each year 2 teams to go up and down. that will give us a good structure and also ensure proper match practice for each player and give us a bench strength

  • Rajit on January 25, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    Pretty thought provoking... it was surprising to see that none of the QF matches were won on outright basis...few points to consider for BCCI 1)spacing between two Ranji matches 2) make all knock out games a 5 day affair instead of 4 days and 3) bring in some changes in the points system to make matches more exciting and encourage outright results..

  • smruti on January 25, 2010, 10:02 GMT

    yes i completely agree..Either they extend the 4 day matches to 5 days so we hace a result, or find a way to calculate points more evenly in crawn matches.

  • Ashok Kumar on January 25, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Good suggestion. I had the thought of change in the Ranji pointing system when Tamil Nadu met Mumbai in the quarter final. Though Tamil Nadu stood top of the table, it couldn't make it into the semis. Definitely Ranji needs a makeover.

  • dionysus hawksby on January 25, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    These are some very thoughtful suggestions. However, the question is, can games played according to these rules still be called Test Cricket?

  • Anirban on January 25, 2010, 6:36 GMT

    Sounds interesting ... BCCI should do something like this. But will they do? IPL has overshadowed everything .. who cares about Ranji?

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  • Anirban on January 25, 2010, 6:36 GMT

    Sounds interesting ... BCCI should do something like this. But will they do? IPL has overshadowed everything .. who cares about Ranji?

  • dionysus hawksby on January 25, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    These are some very thoughtful suggestions. However, the question is, can games played according to these rules still be called Test Cricket?

  • Ashok Kumar on January 25, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Good suggestion. I had the thought of change in the Ranji pointing system when Tamil Nadu met Mumbai in the quarter final. Though Tamil Nadu stood top of the table, it couldn't make it into the semis. Definitely Ranji needs a makeover.

  • smruti on January 25, 2010, 10:02 GMT

    yes i completely agree..Either they extend the 4 day matches to 5 days so we hace a result, or find a way to calculate points more evenly in crawn matches.

  • Rajit on January 25, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    Pretty thought provoking... it was surprising to see that none of the QF matches were won on outright basis...few points to consider for BCCI 1)spacing between two Ranji matches 2) make all knock out games a 5 day affair instead of 4 days and 3) bring in some changes in the points system to make matches more exciting and encourage outright results..

  • Mukul Agarwal on January 25, 2010, 11:02 GMT

    There was such a system in the early 90s. Every win got 16 points and 4 bowling points each for bowling and batting, with 4 points for 1st innings win. This was at a time when there were regional leagues Why was this changed. This was a good system. Moreover, there should be 3 leagues instead of 2, with 9 teams in each and home and away matches, entailing 16 matches each side. One match a week for 16 weeks from October 15 to February. the final to be played between the top 2 teams. Each year 2 teams to go up and down. that will give us a good structure and also ensure proper match practice for each player and give us a bench strength

  • Kiran on January 25, 2010, 11:43 GMT

    Yah I do agree with the change over. Mumbai team just had one win and did not deserve to be in final, yah hats off to their attitude to win the last match but I guess teams like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, New Delhi played much much better than Mumbai and these teams deserved to be in finals for their win or lose attitude whereas Mumbai were happy with just first innings lead which is sober and other change we need was the play though Karnataka and TN topped the tables, Mumbai and UP were let to play plate group finalists which is ridiculous after so much of hardwork from Karnataka and TN, Mumbai and UP get rewards its just disgusting.

  • Nazeer on January 25, 2010, 14:16 GMT

    Why complain mumbai, they not only play well, but play with lot of calculations, they adapt to a format very quickly, thats why they are champions, their ultimate goal is to win the cup, not to please the public or media. Well done mumbai, if you change the format, they have another answer for that for which they are capable. Why the bowlers have to struggle after they have ensured 1st innings lead, its not easy to topple the top order, especially with jaffar and rahane at the top.

  • Rahul Shirodkar on January 25, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    Who is going to do it Akash? We have too many people putting the things which should be done, but no one is taking the initiative. Why not have players who make difference like Sachin , Rahul, explayers like Sauarav take initiative and do some thing about this. Some body needs to take the issue with BCCI ( who is the least interested body) in our cricket.

  • Tamoghna Roy on January 25, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Interesting suggestions, but I feel the points should be given only if 250 overs are bowled or 20 wickets fell. In a rain affected match where only one innigs is completed and the other is stopped prematuredly, the team batting first shouldn't get any undue advantage