India in England 2014 August 1, 2014

Bell's advice helped Moeen - Moores

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Peter Moores, the England coach, has praised Ian Bell for his contribution to the improvement of Moeen Ali's offspin.

Moeen claimed eight wickets in the victory over India at the Ageas Bowl, including 6 for 67 in the second innings, leading Alastair Cook to remark that he had never known a bowler improve so quickly. They were sentiments with which Moores agreed.

"Moeen keeps getting better," Moores said. "And he's getting better quickly. To get people like Cheteshwar Pujara and Virat Kohli out - they are high-class players of spin - is a very good sign for Mo for the future.

"Moeen is in the side as a batter and a very rapidly emerging spin bowler. He does two things that are essential for a top-flight spinner: he attacks both edges. He gets great drift and he turns the ball. He spins the ball hard. Without those two things, it is very difficult. If you only attack one edge of the bat, people can work you out quite fast. But because Mo creates drift, there is a challenge for all batters. He can nick people off. It is not a doosra, it is a heavily-spun off-break and it drifts away."

Part of Moeen improvement is, Moores believes, thanks to some advice imparted by Bell during net sessions. Bell recommended that Moeen bowl a little quicker and a with a tighter off-stump line.

"At Lord's, you saw somebody who had improved quite a lot and had started to bowl tighter," Moore said. "His run-rate came down and he created some pressure. Today resulted in some wickets. Ian Bell was quite important in that. You can get feedback about the pace and lines that are difficult for batsmen to play. Mo has adjusted and grown really quickly.

"Bell was batting in the nets and talked to Moeen about the paces and lines that he would find challenging," Moores said. "Belly is a fantastic player of spin so feeding back to one of his team-mates, 'Well, actually, I find that really difficult or that pace is quite nice for me,' is what good teams should do. It is still up to Mo what he decides to do, but you improve because you talk and work with people.

"The quality of his bowling has improved. Test cricket is about how rapidly people grow in it and he's grown very quickly as a bowler. Hopefully, that carries on. He's a very sensible lad, he knows he's got to keep doing a lot of work."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Diaz54 on August 3, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    Well,said Jose! That's exactly how I feel.,an opportunity to give Moeen Ali praise instead it goes to Bell. That's the way it is in England.

  • on August 2, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    @crktttt on (August 2, 2014, 8:34 GMT): You posted:

    Ian Bell for captain!! :)

    Is Moores dropping a hint, by giving excessive credit to Bell, for Moeen's performance? One wonders!

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:31 GMT

    Poor Moeen. He bowls well and people ask "but what about batting"? The fact is that this young man (maybe not so young) performed better than expected. Encourage him. Hopefully he will continue to deliver. Britishers of Indian origin should be behind him 100 percent. He makes you all proud ; he makes us proud too. Let this little flower bloom and make cricket more exciting than ever.

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    Both the headline and Moores give a bit of...disproportionate credit to Bell. Poor Moeen, with such superb performance with spin bowling against some of the best players of spin in the world deserve a bit more overt recognition and applause. Well done, Moeen!

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    Some players grow, once they are inducted into the ultimate form of cricket: Tests. Some decay. Moeen is an excellent example of the former. There are many examples for the latter, and unfortunately they are in the team, I would like to see win.

  • sheru-sher on August 2, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    Instead of bloggers "putting down" Moeen with negatives I think he should be encouraged and England should invest heavily in him by having a spin bowling coach assigned to him for the rest of the season just to monitor his growth as a bowler. England is badly in need of a good Test class spinner after Swan cowardly abandoned the ship. Once bating skills are learned early in one's career they are never lost and Moeen can safely regain these skills after he develop as a spin bowler. I think He has the potential for a good all rounder which would give England leverage to pick a further 4 seamers or ....in some cases 3 seamers and an additional spinner .With players like COOK, Bell, Root Butler and Balance the rebuilding process is encouraging. What is needed is a good consistent 3rd pace bowler and then Austrailia can kiss the ashes good bye.

  • immi2711 on August 2, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Allright!!!! stop the praises..enough....Guys has got one game in the bag and english ppl are ready to give Mo the title of Sir.....He was brought as batsman, and he was going to be sacked for sure after the test series, because he was below avg, at best maybe on the lower side of avg. No doubt he is improving, and given a chance he will get better, but the pitch helped him out and the india kind of played some poor shots....He has to show his skills in the coming test to really say he is good and can be handed the spin bowling chores. Otherwise, he is not good enough to be in the team, I was wondering why they left Ravi Bopara, guy can bat and bowl...things that make you say hmmmmmmmmm ????????

  • on August 2, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    @PrinceLionHeart No he's a batsman who plays spin well and has an understanding of what is comfortable to face and what isn't . The article makes that pretty clear.

  • crktttt on August 2, 2014, 8:34 GMT

    Ian Bell for captain!! :)

  • on August 2, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    He needs to show in batting first, in this sereis atleast.

  • Diaz54 on August 3, 2014, 13:26 GMT

    Well,said Jose! That's exactly how I feel.,an opportunity to give Moeen Ali praise instead it goes to Bell. That's the way it is in England.

  • on August 2, 2014, 16:06 GMT

    @crktttt on (August 2, 2014, 8:34 GMT): You posted:

    Ian Bell for captain!! :)

    Is Moores dropping a hint, by giving excessive credit to Bell, for Moeen's performance? One wonders!

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:31 GMT

    Poor Moeen. He bowls well and people ask "but what about batting"? The fact is that this young man (maybe not so young) performed better than expected. Encourage him. Hopefully he will continue to deliver. Britishers of Indian origin should be behind him 100 percent. He makes you all proud ; he makes us proud too. Let this little flower bloom and make cricket more exciting than ever.

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    Both the headline and Moores give a bit of...disproportionate credit to Bell. Poor Moeen, with such superb performance with spin bowling against some of the best players of spin in the world deserve a bit more overt recognition and applause. Well done, Moeen!

  • on August 2, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    Some players grow, once they are inducted into the ultimate form of cricket: Tests. Some decay. Moeen is an excellent example of the former. There are many examples for the latter, and unfortunately they are in the team, I would like to see win.

  • sheru-sher on August 2, 2014, 13:04 GMT

    Instead of bloggers "putting down" Moeen with negatives I think he should be encouraged and England should invest heavily in him by having a spin bowling coach assigned to him for the rest of the season just to monitor his growth as a bowler. England is badly in need of a good Test class spinner after Swan cowardly abandoned the ship. Once bating skills are learned early in one's career they are never lost and Moeen can safely regain these skills after he develop as a spin bowler. I think He has the potential for a good all rounder which would give England leverage to pick a further 4 seamers or ....in some cases 3 seamers and an additional spinner .With players like COOK, Bell, Root Butler and Balance the rebuilding process is encouraging. What is needed is a good consistent 3rd pace bowler and then Austrailia can kiss the ashes good bye.

  • immi2711 on August 2, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Allright!!!! stop the praises..enough....Guys has got one game in the bag and english ppl are ready to give Mo the title of Sir.....He was brought as batsman, and he was going to be sacked for sure after the test series, because he was below avg, at best maybe on the lower side of avg. No doubt he is improving, and given a chance he will get better, but the pitch helped him out and the india kind of played some poor shots....He has to show his skills in the coming test to really say he is good and can be handed the spin bowling chores. Otherwise, he is not good enough to be in the team, I was wondering why they left Ravi Bopara, guy can bat and bowl...things that make you say hmmmmmmmmm ????????

  • on August 2, 2014, 9:24 GMT

    @PrinceLionHeart No he's a batsman who plays spin well and has an understanding of what is comfortable to face and what isn't . The article makes that pretty clear.

  • crktttt on August 2, 2014, 8:34 GMT

    Ian Bell for captain!! :)

  • on August 2, 2014, 8:18 GMT

    He needs to show in batting first, in this sereis atleast.

  • YorkshirePudding on August 2, 2014, 6:11 GMT

    @Sir_Francis, Thats not strictly true, hes taken 61 FC wickets over two years, compared to someone like Kerrigan who has 101 FC wickets over the same 2 years.

    I admit hes settled down, but before we proclaim him the real deal lets wait for him to play a few more games, before we proclaim him as more than a part timer.

    The big question is will his bowling affect his batting.

  • Sir_Francis on August 2, 2014, 1:15 GMT

    He's not a part time bowler. He's taken over 100 wickets over the last 2 County seasons. He's short of being a front line bowler but has lots of room for improvement. He could turn into a true allrounder in time.

  • on August 2, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    moeen takes 8 wickets...bell gets the credit. good old england

  • Sexysteven on August 1, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    That's what you would expect from a senior player to pass on his opinions and then moeen can decide weather to take that advice on board or not that's how teams should work trying to help each other get better and bell comes across as a great team man to me I think moeen has displayed he's good enough to be the spinner for the time being he's like duminy better then apart timer you have to be decent to get the top Indian batters out so you might as well stick with him he prob won't bowl you to victory to much but he will get 2or3 wickets regularly and make good contributions with the ball he needs his captain to have faith in him more though

  • Puffin on August 1, 2014, 22:32 GMT

    It might be said "who cares why he is improving", but this is a good idea for all bowlers, just find out what batsmen don't like and give it a go.

  • on August 1, 2014, 21:23 GMT

    good bowling moeen keep it up.. and all the best

  • on August 1, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    Moeen is an intelligent Cricketer. He bowled line and length and in 2nd innings almost the all batsmen who faced had some difficulty. That is smart.

  • dorothydix on August 1, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    Credit to Moores for acknowledging Bell`s input. A good coach builds a team around himself to make a difference to players. Bell seems like an invaluable guy to have around the England team. There are some good things happening in the England team. Rome wasn't built in a day.

  • stuckwithcricket on August 1, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    moeen bowled to him in the nets and could not get Bell out, afterwards Bell told him that's not the way to bowl, moeen listened and now he is the most improved bowler, credit to Bell.

  • on August 1, 2014, 17:59 GMT

    After all Bell's a "top class" spinner.

  • on August 1, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    Moeen's bowling amazed us, he is a part-time bowler and what he bowled we hope he give better performance in next remaining matches.

  • Diaz54 on August 1, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    That's good Bell the batsmen helped, vow good! The credit has to go some where else.

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  • Diaz54 on August 1, 2014, 17:13 GMT

    That's good Bell the batsmen helped, vow good! The credit has to go some where else.

  • on August 1, 2014, 17:21 GMT

    Moeen's bowling amazed us, he is a part-time bowler and what he bowled we hope he give better performance in next remaining matches.

  • on August 1, 2014, 17:59 GMT

    After all Bell's a "top class" spinner.

  • stuckwithcricket on August 1, 2014, 18:40 GMT

    moeen bowled to him in the nets and could not get Bell out, afterwards Bell told him that's not the way to bowl, moeen listened and now he is the most improved bowler, credit to Bell.

  • dorothydix on August 1, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    Credit to Moores for acknowledging Bell`s input. A good coach builds a team around himself to make a difference to players. Bell seems like an invaluable guy to have around the England team. There are some good things happening in the England team. Rome wasn't built in a day.

  • on August 1, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    Moeen is an intelligent Cricketer. He bowled line and length and in 2nd innings almost the all batsmen who faced had some difficulty. That is smart.

  • on August 1, 2014, 21:23 GMT

    good bowling moeen keep it up.. and all the best

  • Puffin on August 1, 2014, 22:32 GMT

    It might be said "who cares why he is improving", but this is a good idea for all bowlers, just find out what batsmen don't like and give it a go.

  • Sexysteven on August 1, 2014, 22:57 GMT

    That's what you would expect from a senior player to pass on his opinions and then moeen can decide weather to take that advice on board or not that's how teams should work trying to help each other get better and bell comes across as a great team man to me I think moeen has displayed he's good enough to be the spinner for the time being he's like duminy better then apart timer you have to be decent to get the top Indian batters out so you might as well stick with him he prob won't bowl you to victory to much but he will get 2or3 wickets regularly and make good contributions with the ball he needs his captain to have faith in him more though

  • on August 2, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    moeen takes 8 wickets...bell gets the credit. good old england