England v Australia, 2nd Investec Test, Lord's, 4th day July 21, 2013

Aussies struggle to provide value for money

For great sums, Australian cricket fans can follow the Ashes, meet the coach and offer suggestions. The best idea at the moment could be a refund request
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"Fans pay good money to come watch our athletes perform and I'd like to think they got their money's worth over the five days of the first Test." Darren Lehmann.

For AUS$7,959 you can follow the Australian team to watch the fourth and fifth Tests with the Cricket Australia Travel Office. Airfares not included. That isn't just cricket, you also get a trip to Scotland, full English Breakfast every morning and "a private session with Australian coach - Mickey Arthur".

"Imagine sitting with the coach in an exclusive group during an Ashes Series and discussing team tactics, the wicket, what's likely to unfold, and more. On CATO Exclusive Fully Escorted Tours you will meet with Mickey Arthur the day before or during a Test to analyse the match and perhaps make a recommendation or two." That is straight from the online brochure. It has not been updated. Nothing has changed. Much like the change of coaches, at least in the short term.

Now imagine you are the Australian fan back at home. You have paid close to 10,000 bucks, you are yet to get on a plane or meet a CATO tour escort. And your team is already 2-0 down. That must hurt. Of course, some of those same people are here right now. Just sitting there, drunk on pain, trying to understand what is happening. Their faces are grey, the warm beer is not cheering them up and they're wondering why they spent enough to buy them a boat, or 10 items of Channel Nine's merchandise.

Instead they got no Mickey Arthur, and for large parts, no Australia. Today must inspire some of them to ask about the possibility of refunds.

While Cricket Australia were still investigating who the honest person was who used their Twitter account yesterday, Mickey Arthur was releasing more statements that made them look silly. David Warner's brother's tweet made the news, and so did the term "escape-goat".

On the field, while marketing men in met in Richmond to discuss the best way to use him, Ashton Agar limped into the crease around the wicket, into the footmarks, hoping Matt Prior wouldn't hit him onto the Nursery Ground. Instead a mistimed shot came back to him at the sort of speed you should never drop car keys, beers or cricket balls. Our Ashton never saw it. It just smashed into him. Well, bumped into him. Then the rest of the players went out to the boundary at one. Like it was a walk off. And to follow up that drop, Agar fired in a quick one down the leg side for four byes.

You get to the end of the day, and the kind of spirit, determination and technical prowess you expect from your top order is shown by three tailenders.

England declared, but only after Joe Root had played a scoop on 180.

Then something happened that quite often happens. In fact, it happens at the second highest percentage of any cricketer who has played 50 innings or more. Shane Watson was out lbw. A split-screen later on showed almost no difference at all from the first innings. Well he didn't review it. Which was for the best really.

Chris Rogers was confused by some good spin bowling from Graeme Swann. Or, if you want to be blunt and accurate, left a straight one. Phil Hughes had a ball straighten on him, was given out, and then referred. It is now quite clear that no one in the Australian team knows that to get a ball overruled for an lbw, you need the ball to be missing the stumps completely. Just being upset you have missed a ball and have been given out is not enough reason to wake the third umpire.

Then Usman Khawaja and Michael Clarke put on a partnership. It should have been respite, but instead it included Clarke being beaten up by short balls. The Mechaclarke of Australia had been replaced by the Tin Man of England. The only way Khawaja could help get one back was to run through Swann.

That push in the back took Swann from the field. Which seemed like a good thing. Until Joe Root bowled a dog ordinary ball down the leg side that Clarke deflected straight into leg slip's hands. Then Root took the edge of Khawaja and his push in the back cost Australia their best partnership of the Ashes from two players who are paid to bat.

Steve Smith was caught behind off Tim Bresnan. He referred it before the finger was all the way in the air. Then Hot Spot made him look a bit silly. Gideon Haigh pondered if the thicker edges on bats made it harder for batsmen to tell if there were nicks. It might be the "if a tree falls in the forest" of our cricket times.

When Our Ashton flashed at one outside off, England went up. Erasmus did not. So they reviewed it. Tony Hill saw no Hot Spot but saw a deflection and heard a noise. The deflection seemed non-existent, the noise slightly late. For what it's worth, Aaron Wilson, on twitter, suggested that the noise was Agar's bat hitting a piece of grass. It was that kind of day.

Brad Haddin left a ball from Swann that pitched on middle stump from around the wicket. It was as if he forgot Swann was an offspinner. Had Australia had a review by then (now there is a fairytale) they might have reviewed it, but they probably wouldn't have. It turned out that it was missing the leg stump.

And then you get to the end of the day, and the kind of spirit, determination and technical prowess you expect from your top order is shown by three tailenders who are fighting to make the match go into a fifth day so they could still lose by over 300 runs. This is the high point for these fans who have shelled out boat money to get here. Jimmy Pattinson chipping straight balls into the legside, Peter Siddle pushing into the offside and Ryan Harris edging between slip and keeper.

On Twitter, Cricket Australia could manage only: "Great fight by Harris and Pattinson, almost pushing the match into the final day. Players shake hands."

That tweet said less than the look on Pattinson's face when he was out, lbw to Swann. You would assume his wicket meant Australia had lost by a run, not 347. Pattinson was essentially a man who ran into a burning house and was frustrated he couldn't save the pot plant. Or maybe he just wanted to take the game into the fifth day to give those travelling sad broken fans their "money's worth".

That is where Australia have landed; trying to make sure they only lose in five days, and not four. Scrounging around the bottom of cricket's bin looking for an unsullied chicken wing. That rogue Cricket Australia tweet got it right when it used the hashtag #bull****. When Darren Lehmann fronts up to the Cricket Australia Travel Office for his next private session, those Aussies fans might "make a recommendation or two" or even suggested Australia's performance "sucked ass".

Jarrod Kimber is the mind responsible for cricketwithballs.com

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  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 2:39 GMT

    Shane Watson plays too much like an ordinary Indian batsman is supposed to play. I mean compulsively stepping on to the front foot. No wonder his average is only around 30. This is symptomatic of Australian cricket. I mean that every batsman has known weaknesses and seems unable to correct himself.

    Given that, England has the best bowling attack today who bowl a consistent and probing line. They have adequate backup players of equal standard (eg. Finn/Bresnan). They won even in India because they have enough spinners too.

    If you compare the last few series played in England, only South Africa - who don't seem to have forgotten test cricket played well against Englan.

    OK

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | July 23, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    I think the best advice i saw was from Alec Stewart, and that was to stick with the current batting line up and tell them they have 3 tests to prove themselves, anyone who doesnt (Clarke excepted) is cast aside on the return leg and you look at the personell in the states for batsmen with 20/30 games experience, low SR's (50'ish, and averags over 40) then stick with them for 2-3 series, to buy time while you develop youngert talents who start pushing for places.

    Hopefully by the time the new bread of players are ready the team has started to get that winning feeling, so the new players get used to it. New players are given 15-20 tests to prove themselves and replaced if they dont step up, earlier if they look totally out of thier depth.

  • POSTED BY on | July 23, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    fantastic work Jarrod. you had me laughing like a drain. :-)

  • POSTED BY Go_F.Alonso on | July 23, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    @Rally_Windies: Couldn't agree more mate.

  • POSTED BY Nuwan_R on | July 23, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    I'm sure people that signed up to pay for this already knew the risks and state of Australian cricket before the first test. We were only deceived by Ashton Agar's 98 in the first test.

  • POSTED BY spindizzy on | July 23, 2013, 3:01 GMT

    After this game Hill should be removed immediately from all umpiring for incompetence.

    And probably Hughes and Watson as well.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | July 23, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    Jarod ...

    I hope you read this ..

    on your headline " Aussies struggle to provide value for money" ....

    This is a common problem with ALL teams whose goal is : "try to be competitive" !

    It was a HUGE problem with "Bangladesh" & Zimbabwe , it is a HUGE problem with the West Indies !

    And now Australia has picked up that HORRIBLE mentality .....

    Ireland did not beat England by : "trying to be competitive" & Sri Lanka did not win a world cup by : "trying to be competitive" ...

    If you are a Cricket Coach, or captain and you are not "trying to win" ! Then you have already lost the series ! And you might as well pack up and go home !

    & also - the Austrailian batting line up .... looking at Stats .. it looks like a Zimbabwe batting line up !

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | July 23, 2013, 0:29 GMT

    @Rahulbose Agreed. However, that Aussie side thumping the Poms was full of some of the greatest players in Test cricket history.

    The same can't be said of the current English side (yet). They are a very good side, with very good players, but if you were picking a best ever English team, maybe only Anderson, Cook or KP might get considered.

    So, the Poms of ten years ago could at least take consolation in the fact they were playing probably the second best team to ever turn out for Australia, and some would argue the best.

    No such consolation for the Aussies now. Although being beaten by a very good side, it does show how awful we are.

    Those Poms of 10 years ago would have pummelled this Aussie team too.

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 23:04 GMT

    Before people get too carried away,this series could have been 1-1 with a bit of luck.Cool heads are needed,continuity is required as well as selection consistency.Guys like Kallis and Amla were allowed lengthy settling in periods of a few years and shaky starts to their careers before they blossomed.One poor match does not mean the end of the world-it happens. Stick with the core,let them play their natural game,provide assurance that their places are safe for the series and let the controllable factors be executed as well as possible.

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | July 22, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    I am reminded of the heady days of 2003-04. 10 years ago I used to regularly have discussions with my cricket friends on why Aussie dominance was so boring. How we wished someone would match their players and give them a good fight. This series makes me just as sad, if the Ashes is this one sided that might be the last nail in Test crickets coffin. Here' s hoping that Aussies bowlers will win them a few games and we won't be looking at 10-0.

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 2:39 GMT

    Shane Watson plays too much like an ordinary Indian batsman is supposed to play. I mean compulsively stepping on to the front foot. No wonder his average is only around 30. This is symptomatic of Australian cricket. I mean that every batsman has known weaknesses and seems unable to correct himself.

    Given that, England has the best bowling attack today who bowl a consistent and probing line. They have adequate backup players of equal standard (eg. Finn/Bresnan). They won even in India because they have enough spinners too.

    If you compare the last few series played in England, only South Africa - who don't seem to have forgotten test cricket played well against Englan.

    OK

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | July 23, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    I think the best advice i saw was from Alec Stewart, and that was to stick with the current batting line up and tell them they have 3 tests to prove themselves, anyone who doesnt (Clarke excepted) is cast aside on the return leg and you look at the personell in the states for batsmen with 20/30 games experience, low SR's (50'ish, and averags over 40) then stick with them for 2-3 series, to buy time while you develop youngert talents who start pushing for places.

    Hopefully by the time the new bread of players are ready the team has started to get that winning feeling, so the new players get used to it. New players are given 15-20 tests to prove themselves and replaced if they dont step up, earlier if they look totally out of thier depth.

  • POSTED BY on | July 23, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    fantastic work Jarrod. you had me laughing like a drain. :-)

  • POSTED BY Go_F.Alonso on | July 23, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    @Rally_Windies: Couldn't agree more mate.

  • POSTED BY Nuwan_R on | July 23, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    I'm sure people that signed up to pay for this already knew the risks and state of Australian cricket before the first test. We were only deceived by Ashton Agar's 98 in the first test.

  • POSTED BY spindizzy on | July 23, 2013, 3:01 GMT

    After this game Hill should be removed immediately from all umpiring for incompetence.

    And probably Hughes and Watson as well.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | July 23, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    Jarod ...

    I hope you read this ..

    on your headline " Aussies struggle to provide value for money" ....

    This is a common problem with ALL teams whose goal is : "try to be competitive" !

    It was a HUGE problem with "Bangladesh" & Zimbabwe , it is a HUGE problem with the West Indies !

    And now Australia has picked up that HORRIBLE mentality .....

    Ireland did not beat England by : "trying to be competitive" & Sri Lanka did not win a world cup by : "trying to be competitive" ...

    If you are a Cricket Coach, or captain and you are not "trying to win" ! Then you have already lost the series ! And you might as well pack up and go home !

    & also - the Austrailian batting line up .... looking at Stats .. it looks like a Zimbabwe batting line up !

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | July 23, 2013, 0:29 GMT

    @Rahulbose Agreed. However, that Aussie side thumping the Poms was full of some of the greatest players in Test cricket history.

    The same can't be said of the current English side (yet). They are a very good side, with very good players, but if you were picking a best ever English team, maybe only Anderson, Cook or KP might get considered.

    So, the Poms of ten years ago could at least take consolation in the fact they were playing probably the second best team to ever turn out for Australia, and some would argue the best.

    No such consolation for the Aussies now. Although being beaten by a very good side, it does show how awful we are.

    Those Poms of 10 years ago would have pummelled this Aussie team too.

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 23:04 GMT

    Before people get too carried away,this series could have been 1-1 with a bit of luck.Cool heads are needed,continuity is required as well as selection consistency.Guys like Kallis and Amla were allowed lengthy settling in periods of a few years and shaky starts to their careers before they blossomed.One poor match does not mean the end of the world-it happens. Stick with the core,let them play their natural game,provide assurance that their places are safe for the series and let the controllable factors be executed as well as possible.

  • POSTED BY Rahulbose on | July 22, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    I am reminded of the heady days of 2003-04. 10 years ago I used to regularly have discussions with my cricket friends on why Aussie dominance was so boring. How we wished someone would match their players and give them a good fight. This series makes me just as sad, if the Ashes is this one sided that might be the last nail in Test crickets coffin. Here' s hoping that Aussies bowlers will win them a few games and we won't be looking at 10-0.

  • POSTED BY PPD123 on | July 22, 2013, 17:50 GMT

    Forget the legends - What would Australia give to turn back the clock and get folks like Matthew Elliot, Greg Blewett, Brad Hodge, Martin Love, Darren Lehman into this test batting line up. The guys I just mentioned lost out on their careers because of the insane talent that Aus had in their generation. Each of these cricketer would have otherwise played atleast 100 test in any other Aus era. I remember the time when Aus could easily field an A team, and that would beat any other international side black and blue.... the truth today is that there is a paucity of talent in the Aus cricketing system. No one is waiting in the wings who can make a difference..Problem is - even if folks like Watson, Smith, Khawajas, Cowan fail repeatedly there is no one waiting to replace... There seems no light at the end of the tunnel in the immediate future... Aussie cricket will go have to go thru this to reach the top again... this has to be their nadir in cricketing terms... 5-0 it will be this ashes.

  • POSTED BY hithardpastmidon on | July 22, 2013, 15:45 GMT

    Its really like there is a whole generation of cricket fans in Australia who simply don't really know what its like to have a poor side that loses (and will continue to lose for some time). I guess growing up watching Mcgrath, warne, gilly and co dominate for a decade just makes it all the harder to take now. Welcome to reality Australia. Stop whinging and just accept that it will take some time for the team to develop and perhaps to uncover some young talent over the next few years.

  • POSTED BY visht20 on | July 22, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    I would suggest a complete change of batting order for Australia coz currently they don't have anyone playing a solid role at number 6/7 lilke Laxman used to play for India. 1. Phil Hughes -> (Can play the anchor role - he looks tentative but he's a good batsman) 2. Steve Smith -> (Confident young player with a good technique - can mold himself into a new role like Joe Root has for England) 3. Usman Khawaja -> (good solid batsman at number 3) 4. Shane Watson -> (good player of spin - it can give him time to settle in and not face the fast bowlers upfront) 5. Micheal Clarke -> Watson and Clarke can both look to settle the middle order which currently looks very week 6. Chris Rogers -> We need someone like him who can stay at the wicket for a long time if wickets have fallen in a hurry 7. Brad Haddin -> Good at this place. Played well with the tail in the 1st test. 8. Ashton Agar 9. James Pattinson 10. Peter Siddle 11. Ryan Harris.

    Please someone give this list to Darren Lehmann :)

  • POSTED BY TestsbeforeTwenty20 on | July 22, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    @Harmony - really now? You want to still blame Mickey Arthur? Boof's big smile from two weeks back has already disappeared since he has realised that it was not Mickey batting out there in disguise all this time! Get over this idea that it was Mickey's fault alone and let the players man up. Will you be saying the same of Boof in a year's time, or is he too Australian to take any blame?

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | July 22, 2013, 11:39 GMT

    having been on 5 ashes tours to oz and only seeing 1 series win, i have little sympathy.

  • POSTED BY crockit on | July 22, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    4 issues with Aussies

    1. Clarke - classy tactician but is he a poor leader of man (not just issues with Watson but alledgedly previously with Katich and Hussey). 2. Selections. Mentality of throw out reasonable spinners (first Hauritz now Lyon ) and replace them with spinners likely to do worse (Doherty, Agar). Ignore quality experienced batters (Voges, Katich, until now Rogers, maybe David Hussey even) in favour building most of line up out of younger players who are not of great potential like Root but have techincal and/or mental weaknesses that are going to be exposed against good bowlers. 3. Commitment - can't fault the bowlers for effort but too many of the batters too much of the time playing muppet shots. Compounds the issue of having technical flaws 4. Delusion - affects most teams on the slide - cannot always honestly come to terms with the weaknesses and deal with them appropiately - instead resort to flannel.

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    And just when I thought Cricinfo articles couldnt' get any better! Great read, thanks for making my day!

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    I think its high time that CA decides that the team is not good enough for first grade cricket, there is no point in playing against the top team and suffering these humiliating and moral sapping losses. Simply saying there is no batsman in Aus(bar Katich and Voges) who can bat in a test match, just look at Aus A's performance against Zim. I clearly remember the time when Aus A used to be better than most of the intl sides and now...I think CA needs to plan long term and schedule matches accordingly, play against weak teams or in home conditions and try to find out a next gp of decent batsmen who can consistently score 300+ in test matches

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | July 22, 2013, 5:18 GMT

    Australia problem is not players. Its their captain. A negative influence. Period. They are not fighting as a unit. Too many small groups in aussie team.

  • POSTED BY CustomKid on | July 22, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    Very nice article. I was planning to travel to the next ashes in the UK, but a new fishing boat does sound a lot more appealing at present give our horrid performance, lets face it in both tests from a batting perspective.

    I'm so appalled by this team that I doubt I'll even tune in to the third test. While there is a clear lack of talent there is also a lack of mental fortitude. They have none of that mongeral b@stard in them of years gone by, something that this Captain and Watson clearly lack.

    England aren't even bowling that well and they're smashing us. I could stomach it if they had the ball swinging around corners etc but most are stock balls that these guys can't keep out. I feel for the bowlers who are keeping england to reasonable totals, but the batsmen are talentless hacks at best.

  • POSTED BY finncam on | July 22, 2013, 3:43 GMT

    This description of Australia's innings is probably as grinding as the real thing. Since I couldn't be bothered to watch all the real thing, cycling being more interesting, it's a perfectly adequate substitute. Better than Clarke's post-match interview where he blamed the batting for Australia's loss. What a revelation!

    In a series of bleedin' obvious statements to the ABC, such as "I thought they outplayed us" and "I think England has shown us that batting for long periods, runs will naturally come", he revealed how much his side had learnt about playing cricket in the last few days. It's wonderful what an education the Ashes has been for the team! And Clarke's perspicacity is amazing! Aren't we lucky having such a captain of such profound insights to lead the team?

  • POSTED BY 214ty on | July 22, 2013, 1:10 GMT

    I would definitely hold CA responsible for my money, and would take every action to get it back whether I had gone to England or not. What a disgrace! as I said before bring in a veterans team to finish the series.

  • POSTED BY Vindaliew on | July 22, 2013, 0:53 GMT

    Where tailend batting is concerned, let's not forget Agar. Everyone is talking about how spirited Siddle, Pattinson and Harris have been, but Agar is right up there with them to, at least with the bat. One 98, one run-out by his partner, and one snick which may not have happened have really shown him that you can do your best, tick all the boxes and still get dismissed.

  • POSTED BY aracer on | July 22, 2013, 0:53 GMT

    @Fardin Kibria - "You actually can't blame the Aussie batsmen." - seriously? Sure you got on the wrong side of a few decisions (I'll give you Haddin and Agar, but Smith was clearly out), but even had those all gone your way you'd still have lost big - most of your batsmen's dismissals for low scores were undisputed. Your batsmen lost you the match, not the umpires.

  • POSTED BY ibbotsoni on | July 22, 2013, 0:52 GMT

    Very, very funny indeed. You are a brilliant writer.

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | July 22, 2013, 0:35 GMT

    'Ashton Agar limped into the crease around the wicket, into the footmarks, hoping Matt Prior wouldn't hit him onto the Nursery Ground.'

    This is comedy gold. Agar is averaging 124 per wicket. Yes, 124 runs per wicket on pitches where real spinners are getting 10 wickets in the match at an average of less than 20 runs per wicket

    Is this the best spinner Australia have got? Really? I can't believe the media hype about this kid, He's so far off being a test match spinner it's not even funny.

  • POSTED BY wibblewibble on | July 22, 2013, 0:34 GMT

    @Harmony: read the article, its $8000 to see the 4th and 5th tests only

  • POSTED BY on | July 22, 2013, 0:19 GMT

    Don't forget how India got man-handled in Australia; yet their batting line up of Dravid, tendulkar and VVS was far superior to the current Australian team. Let the team settle and give them confidence instead of a bashing.

  • POSTED BY RohanMarkJay on | July 21, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    I agree, some aussie fans. Forked out thousands of their hard earned dollars, just to follow their team half way round the world to England. Only to see their team play without any kind of heart for the ashes. Ashton Agar and Phil Hughes first test excepted. They have my sympathies, they could be back in Australia using that money to by their next boat. However if it will make Aussie fans any better. England fans from the UK would fork out hundreds of pounds in the 1990s, to go to Australia to watch England lose. 3-0 in 1990/91. 3-1 in 1994/95 and 3-1 in 1998/99. However England fans would argue that despite their team getting thrashed in Australia. They used the opportunity to get away from a bleak UK winter and have a holiday. Would be interested to see a survey who had it worse. England fans going to Australia in the 1990s or Aussie fans in 2013 going to the UK.

  • POSTED BY CricketMatchSpecial on | July 21, 2013, 23:56 GMT

    Why is the coach blamed in this debacle? What about the captain Michael Clarke or the selectors?

    Steve Smith at No. 6? Is that the best Australia got at this moment? And then Phil Hughes? What about Agar? With 3 questionable players, and then Watson, how do you dream of winning a test match?

    You cannot win a single session with a team like this. Wake up, and sack Agar 1st!

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    @GeoffreysMother I don't the players Oz has at the moment are the best. That is the problem. Poor selection. Poor captain as well.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    If refunds were the big deal, then the ECB needs to refund all tickets sold for the next 3 tests. I cannot see this Australian team do anything to worry England. Not even in their dreams. The gulf between the 2 teams is glaring that you could fit an aeroplane in there. I expect more of the same. I hope to be corrected with some inspiring performances from Australia. But that's hoping against hope.

  • POSTED BY chitti_cricket on | July 21, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    I'm very sorry to all, since predicted Australian re-gaining the ashes this season. My apologies.

  • POSTED BY Ninety9 on | July 21, 2013, 22:15 GMT

    When Pattinson got out, he had the same look as Watson has 24/7.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | July 21, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    Well, ~8000 Aus $s for 5 tests + a few other benefits isn't all that expensive in my opinion. I think doing that on your own would cost at least 40% more money and that will not have that intimacy with the team.

    On a diff note, money is hardly the issue here. Losing 2 in 2 isn't the issue too. What would irk a passionate fan is the way their team is losing. At least Aus fought a lot in the 1st test but the 2nd test was lost when they made only 128 in the 1st innings. And I dare say I see worse is on the way in the 3rd test.

    Unlike others, I do think that this is a failure of the coach here. Lehmann is quite new so he should not get all the blame but Mickey really squeezed the last oz of confidence from Oz the team. His handling of the homework issue was very bad. You don't lose a war to win a 2 line debate, do you? The way Oz players are using DRS shows how confused their thinking is, they don't even know what's real and what's not. Lets hope Lehmann outlines the reality for them.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    You actually can't blame the Aussie batsmen. The people using the DRS technology (Umpires) have made the worst decisions of the century in the most important series in the year. Yes, they are humans but reviews like Agar's and Steve Smith's make no sense to me of how they are out. Same goes for the decision of the Haddin's dismissal. I am really feeling bad for these three guys, : Smith, Agar and Haddin. I was sensing another 50+ score from all these three. Specially Agar got a great start. It is really not something us fans wanna see happen and result in us losing matches. And it was so clear during the catch of Ian Bell in second innings by Steven Smith that it was caught clearly and that also went against us. Someone do something cause this is totally annoying.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | July 21, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    I cannot believe how much I have paid for this. It really is a disgrace.

  • POSTED BY GeoffreysMother on | July 21, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    The real problem is that much vaunted Australian attitude that 'all that matters is winning'. It has left the nation nowhere to go in cricket, swimming and tennis as the opposition has successfully upped its game. Increasingly Australia hides behind AFL (which noone else plays) and RL (played in a few poor northern British towns and by Kiwi's who can't get a union game). All the talk is about regaining the Ashes in 2013/14 when there is a need to accept that there is no magic bullet and no one has a God given right to always be the best. Realistically Australia need to look at 2018 - 20 and accept that the current players are the best they have at the moment and pick the ones who will built a professional culture in the team. If that means wasting the Warner's of the world, then so be it. It would also help if Cricket Australai gave them a timetable that allowed them to rebuild. A one day series in India between two five series Ashes series is ridiculous.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:26 GMT

    As an England fan raised in the 1990s you genuinely have some sympathy from me. If you're lucky, this downturn might not last 20 years.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:20 GMT

    Australia, a team which ruled the roost for so long is now on the run. Like predatory birds of prey which once gobbled up all that came before them they now fly from ground to ground, test to test, tasting only the foul flesh of defeat. A few things are evident. I don't have to be a cricket guru to know that Chris Rogers will never play another test and that Steve Smith is so not a test batsman that its funny how, if i can see it, the Australian selectors (who are paid to) cannot. I also need no Crystal ball to understand that should he fail in another test no amount of runs in FC cricket can save Phil Hughes from being discarded permanently. It may be easy to state that they got the brunt of a number of poor umpiring decision but for poorer teams against superior opposition this is often their lot. Fans may want their money's worth but its never a smart thing to throw good money after a bad product.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    Rofl. Nice one. 'Just being upset you have missed a ball and have been given out is not enough reason to wake the third umpire.'

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | July 21, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    I laughed so loud reading this. Thank you. I love the idea of Australia fighting hard so they can lose in five days instead of four. 10,000 dollars to watch this Aussie team, yes, I'd want my money back too.

  • POSTED BY salazar555 on | July 21, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    I laughed so loud reading this. Thank you. I love the idea of Australia fighting hard so they can lose in five days instead of four. 10,000 dollars to watch this Aussie team, yes, I'd want my money back too.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    Rofl. Nice one. 'Just being upset you have missed a ball and have been given out is not enough reason to wake the third umpire.'

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:20 GMT

    Australia, a team which ruled the roost for so long is now on the run. Like predatory birds of prey which once gobbled up all that came before them they now fly from ground to ground, test to test, tasting only the foul flesh of defeat. A few things are evident. I don't have to be a cricket guru to know that Chris Rogers will never play another test and that Steve Smith is so not a test batsman that its funny how, if i can see it, the Australian selectors (who are paid to) cannot. I also need no Crystal ball to understand that should he fail in another test no amount of runs in FC cricket can save Phil Hughes from being discarded permanently. It may be easy to state that they got the brunt of a number of poor umpiring decision but for poorer teams against superior opposition this is often their lot. Fans may want their money's worth but its never a smart thing to throw good money after a bad product.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:26 GMT

    As an England fan raised in the 1990s you genuinely have some sympathy from me. If you're lucky, this downturn might not last 20 years.

  • POSTED BY GeoffreysMother on | July 21, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    The real problem is that much vaunted Australian attitude that 'all that matters is winning'. It has left the nation nowhere to go in cricket, swimming and tennis as the opposition has successfully upped its game. Increasingly Australia hides behind AFL (which noone else plays) and RL (played in a few poor northern British towns and by Kiwi's who can't get a union game). All the talk is about regaining the Ashes in 2013/14 when there is a need to accept that there is no magic bullet and no one has a God given right to always be the best. Realistically Australia need to look at 2018 - 20 and accept that the current players are the best they have at the moment and pick the ones who will built a professional culture in the team. If that means wasting the Warner's of the world, then so be it. It would also help if Cricket Australai gave them a timetable that allowed them to rebuild. A one day series in India between two five series Ashes series is ridiculous.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | July 21, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    I cannot believe how much I have paid for this. It really is a disgrace.

  • POSTED BY on | July 21, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    You actually can't blame the Aussie batsmen. The people using the DRS technology (Umpires) have made the worst decisions of the century in the most important series in the year. Yes, they are humans but reviews like Agar's and Steve Smith's make no sense to me of how they are out. Same goes for the decision of the Haddin's dismissal. I am really feeling bad for these three guys, : Smith, Agar and Haddin. I was sensing another 50+ score from all these three. Specially Agar got a great start. It is really not something us fans wanna see happen and result in us losing matches. And it was so clear during the catch of Ian Bell in second innings by Steven Smith that it was caught clearly and that also went against us. Someone do something cause this is totally annoying.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | July 21, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    Well, ~8000 Aus $s for 5 tests + a few other benefits isn't all that expensive in my opinion. I think doing that on your own would cost at least 40% more money and that will not have that intimacy with the team.

    On a diff note, money is hardly the issue here. Losing 2 in 2 isn't the issue too. What would irk a passionate fan is the way their team is losing. At least Aus fought a lot in the 1st test but the 2nd test was lost when they made only 128 in the 1st innings. And I dare say I see worse is on the way in the 3rd test.

    Unlike others, I do think that this is a failure of the coach here. Lehmann is quite new so he should not get all the blame but Mickey really squeezed the last oz of confidence from Oz the team. His handling of the homework issue was very bad. You don't lose a war to win a 2 line debate, do you? The way Oz players are using DRS shows how confused their thinking is, they don't even know what's real and what's not. Lets hope Lehmann outlines the reality for them.

  • POSTED BY Ninety9 on | July 21, 2013, 22:15 GMT

    When Pattinson got out, he had the same look as Watson has 24/7.

  • POSTED BY chitti_cricket on | July 21, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    I'm very sorry to all, since predicted Australian re-gaining the ashes this season. My apologies.