West Indies v South Africa, 1st Test, Trinidad June 5, 2010

Shillingford, Pascal called up for first Test

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Dominican offspinner Shane Shillingford is the only new face in the West Indies squad for the first Test against South Africa that gets underway in Trinidad from June 10. Dwayne Bravo will be Chris Gayle's deputy in the side, which also includes Sulieman Benn, who was controversially sent off the field by Gayle after a difference of opinion during the fourth match of the ODI series which the hosts lost 0-5.

Jerome Taylor, who injured his hip and left the field in the closing stages of the final ODI, has returned to Jamaica for rehabilitation, and was not considered. Adrian Barath, who scored an impressive debut century in Brisbane, was dropped from the Test side. He had earlier opted out of the A tour to Bangladesh citing a hamstring injury. Ramnaresh Sarwan is yet to recover from the left hamstring strain that curtailed his participation in the ODI series.

Grenadian fast-bowler Nelon Pascal, who toured with the side to England and was a member of the depleted squad that hosted Bangladesh last year, was recalled. The selectors will send a replacement to take his place in the A squad in England. Darren Bravo, Dwayne's half-brother who has represented West Indies in the limited-overs formats, was also included for the Test.

Shillingford, 27, had struggled on the sidelines with an action that was deemed suspect in 2001. After overcoming the problem, he has surged into the selectors' radar, most recently with impressive performances for the West Indies A team during the home series against Zimbabwe and the tour to Bangladesh that followed.

The second and third Tests of the series will be played in St Kitts and Barbados respectively.

Squad: Chris Gayle (capt), Dwayne Bravo (vice-capt), Sulieman Benn, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Narsingh Deonarine, Travis Dowlin, Brendan Nash, Nelon Pascal, Denesh Ramdin, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Darren Sammy, Shane Shillingford

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  • on June 10, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    the selection of the team is wonderful. I think what we need to do is get these guys in longer camps, less nights out,monitor their surroundings,more together time. A serious discipline committee should be form. Admin needs respect not friends. 1) Batsmen should look at shiv and Nash they play with a very straight bat. Mr Gibson take note. 2) Look at tall and slim fast bowlers so they will have better assistance from the pitch 3)we should not have a tail, we are humans. No. 11 batman has to contribute to runs making,Bat responsible.... this is all for now

  • on June 10, 2010, 10:24 GMT

    I know most of the fans is upset with alot of issue. I want to inform the admin that the fans is customer in the world of business. When your customers is unsatisfied our business is finish with. Chris Gayle should not be Capt. Also he should not open the batting in test match. Go back with Shiv as capt and who does not cooperate throw them out of the team. Cricket needs discipline (remember the first test in guyana vs SA). Another thing senior players must be up in the order. New comer need to toe the line. squad: 1)dowlin 2)dwayne bravo 3)nash 4)chris 5)shiv 6)deonarine 7)ramdin 8)shill 9)ramdin 10)sammy 11)Roach

  • Metman on June 9, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    Cant you all see that Barath has been dropped for feigning injury!He feels that he can just walk back into the WI team just so!no big man,you are not a Gordon Greenidge ,Des Haynes Conrad Hunte ,not even a Chris Gayle.He should have proven his fitness a long time ago,by going on the A team tour to Bangladesh and playing some type of cricket or looking busy in the nets or something.Apart from the hundred on debut,what has he done?What has Dale Richards done not to be included in the 14?Like I said before,Barbados has contributed to the sucess of the WI team more than any of the other Islands.In other words,you need the Bajan stability in the opening positions,in the middle and in the pace department.Until we find those guys,WI cricket will remain in the doldrums.

  • on June 9, 2010, 14:42 GMT

    would like to know what happened to Adrian Bharat,i taught the wi is trying to promote the best players.

  • snbajwaa on June 9, 2010, 9:04 GMT

    i really like westindies cricket but i m afraid the current scenario is quite scary......lack of committment is accompanied by poor selecters choice......test team cant really have more than one allrounder....hence it should be just dwayne bravo who is a class cricketer and gives his all.......barath and darren bravo are westindies future.....they should play in every line up and marlon samuals should be back immediately ....if he can start his international cricket without any first class experience then why cant he came back nw with so much experience.....my ideal lineup would be given all players are fit..1.gayle.2.barath.3.sarwan.4.shiv chanderpaul.5.darren bravo 6..marlon samuels/dwayne bravo.7.baugh.8.edwards.9shillingford.10.roach.11.tayler

  • on June 9, 2010, 2:14 GMT

    AS I read so many comments we are forgetting the fact that cricket is the only sport that bring us together as a unit. i wonder what were on the selectors mind when they selected that team. And I also ask the question why should Gayle continue as captain. The bowling attack for the ODIS was reasonable Gayle did not have what it takes to manage his bowling resources effectively, he dosent have what it takes inspire and motivate his men in the field. Why Dowling did not continue as captain of the A team to England and leave Devon Smith at home. Seeing that the selectors have failed to pick two opening batsmen from what they have selected this is my 11 Gayle Deonarine Darren Bravo Shive Nash Dawyne Bravo Ramdin Benn Shillingford Pascal Roach if fully fit if Deonarine is to play he must open, with all due respect to the selectors they are all a waste of time, at the end of this tour I will ask for their resignation because of their poor judgement and lack of commonsense we are suffering.

  • cindian on June 8, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    My team (1)Gayle (2) Dowlin(3) NarSingh(4) Shiv (5) Nash (6) Ramdin (7) Dayne Bravo(8) Sammy, (9) Shillingford (10) Rampal (11) Roach. I would perfer Bharat bat at #2 and Dowlin bat at #3, Shiv and Nash are a must .Ramdin is a good keeper but a lousy batsman--but there is no better kepper around. Please do not play Benn he causes too many problem hence Shillingford. Dayne and Sammy are a must--I would perfer Tonge to Rampaul---but Tonge is on another tour--so I go with Experience--NarSingh is back up spinner.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 21:06 GMT

    con't My ideal team would be Barath (love him) with Nash as openers, Chanders, Gayle. Bravo, Deonarine/Bernard, Samuels, Baugh, Taylor, Miller/Shillingford, Roach.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    Pe. He has not performed at the level expected of an international cricketer. NO way as suggested can you leave out Nash. Dowlin is not ready so is Tonge. Edwards is not a test player and should be used in the shorter version of the game as well as Sammy. I don't know who is Ramdin's godfather but he has run his course. None of the A teem keepers are ready. I am quite disappointed in Fletcher he should be given more chances on the A team, I think he is a future player. Taylor still remains our best pacer and even him I have a question sign. We have no penetrative attack bowlers on the team at present which is our problem. Collins is a has been and will never be back on the team. Cant control his line and length.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 20:41 GMT

    There is so much bias been shown here. Let us not forget that JA has led Caribbean cricket for the last couple of years. Call for Ganga to lead the side ? the same could be said of the JA captain. Samuels is a proven batsman and showed his class in the session in Ft Llauderdale. Baugh has not gotten the chances that Ramdin has and he is a betetr batsman and as good a keeper than Ramdin. A surprise is the omission of Bernard from the squad. Dowlin is no way ready for the senior squad and should be given a chance with the A team longer. I also believe it is time Gayle drops himself lower in the order for test cricket. Rampaul is not quite ready for this level either. Roach need a lot of coaching, gives too much loose balls in his quest for speed. He needs a coach now he is fast and foolish. Benn has shot his bolt and Shillingford should be given a chance along with Miller. Khan does not show me he is quite ready for this level of play and needs more time with the A team.

  • on June 10, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    the selection of the team is wonderful. I think what we need to do is get these guys in longer camps, less nights out,monitor their surroundings,more together time. A serious discipline committee should be form. Admin needs respect not friends. 1) Batsmen should look at shiv and Nash they play with a very straight bat. Mr Gibson take note. 2) Look at tall and slim fast bowlers so they will have better assistance from the pitch 3)we should not have a tail, we are humans. No. 11 batman has to contribute to runs making,Bat responsible.... this is all for now

  • on June 10, 2010, 10:24 GMT

    I know most of the fans is upset with alot of issue. I want to inform the admin that the fans is customer in the world of business. When your customers is unsatisfied our business is finish with. Chris Gayle should not be Capt. Also he should not open the batting in test match. Go back with Shiv as capt and who does not cooperate throw them out of the team. Cricket needs discipline (remember the first test in guyana vs SA). Another thing senior players must be up in the order. New comer need to toe the line. squad: 1)dowlin 2)dwayne bravo 3)nash 4)chris 5)shiv 6)deonarine 7)ramdin 8)shill 9)ramdin 10)sammy 11)Roach

  • Metman on June 9, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    Cant you all see that Barath has been dropped for feigning injury!He feels that he can just walk back into the WI team just so!no big man,you are not a Gordon Greenidge ,Des Haynes Conrad Hunte ,not even a Chris Gayle.He should have proven his fitness a long time ago,by going on the A team tour to Bangladesh and playing some type of cricket or looking busy in the nets or something.Apart from the hundred on debut,what has he done?What has Dale Richards done not to be included in the 14?Like I said before,Barbados has contributed to the sucess of the WI team more than any of the other Islands.In other words,you need the Bajan stability in the opening positions,in the middle and in the pace department.Until we find those guys,WI cricket will remain in the doldrums.

  • on June 9, 2010, 14:42 GMT

    would like to know what happened to Adrian Bharat,i taught the wi is trying to promote the best players.

  • snbajwaa on June 9, 2010, 9:04 GMT

    i really like westindies cricket but i m afraid the current scenario is quite scary......lack of committment is accompanied by poor selecters choice......test team cant really have more than one allrounder....hence it should be just dwayne bravo who is a class cricketer and gives his all.......barath and darren bravo are westindies future.....they should play in every line up and marlon samuals should be back immediately ....if he can start his international cricket without any first class experience then why cant he came back nw with so much experience.....my ideal lineup would be given all players are fit..1.gayle.2.barath.3.sarwan.4.shiv chanderpaul.5.darren bravo 6..marlon samuels/dwayne bravo.7.baugh.8.edwards.9shillingford.10.roach.11.tayler

  • on June 9, 2010, 2:14 GMT

    AS I read so many comments we are forgetting the fact that cricket is the only sport that bring us together as a unit. i wonder what were on the selectors mind when they selected that team. And I also ask the question why should Gayle continue as captain. The bowling attack for the ODIS was reasonable Gayle did not have what it takes to manage his bowling resources effectively, he dosent have what it takes inspire and motivate his men in the field. Why Dowling did not continue as captain of the A team to England and leave Devon Smith at home. Seeing that the selectors have failed to pick two opening batsmen from what they have selected this is my 11 Gayle Deonarine Darren Bravo Shive Nash Dawyne Bravo Ramdin Benn Shillingford Pascal Roach if fully fit if Deonarine is to play he must open, with all due respect to the selectors they are all a waste of time, at the end of this tour I will ask for their resignation because of their poor judgement and lack of commonsense we are suffering.

  • cindian on June 8, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    My team (1)Gayle (2) Dowlin(3) NarSingh(4) Shiv (5) Nash (6) Ramdin (7) Dayne Bravo(8) Sammy, (9) Shillingford (10) Rampal (11) Roach. I would perfer Bharat bat at #2 and Dowlin bat at #3, Shiv and Nash are a must .Ramdin is a good keeper but a lousy batsman--but there is no better kepper around. Please do not play Benn he causes too many problem hence Shillingford. Dayne and Sammy are a must--I would perfer Tonge to Rampaul---but Tonge is on another tour--so I go with Experience--NarSingh is back up spinner.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 21:06 GMT

    con't My ideal team would be Barath (love him) with Nash as openers, Chanders, Gayle. Bravo, Deonarine/Bernard, Samuels, Baugh, Taylor, Miller/Shillingford, Roach.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    Pe. He has not performed at the level expected of an international cricketer. NO way as suggested can you leave out Nash. Dowlin is not ready so is Tonge. Edwards is not a test player and should be used in the shorter version of the game as well as Sammy. I don't know who is Ramdin's godfather but he has run his course. None of the A teem keepers are ready. I am quite disappointed in Fletcher he should be given more chances on the A team, I think he is a future player. Taylor still remains our best pacer and even him I have a question sign. We have no penetrative attack bowlers on the team at present which is our problem. Collins is a has been and will never be back on the team. Cant control his line and length.

  • moneague on June 8, 2010, 20:41 GMT

    There is so much bias been shown here. Let us not forget that JA has led Caribbean cricket for the last couple of years. Call for Ganga to lead the side ? the same could be said of the JA captain. Samuels is a proven batsman and showed his class in the session in Ft Llauderdale. Baugh has not gotten the chances that Ramdin has and he is a betetr batsman and as good a keeper than Ramdin. A surprise is the omission of Bernard from the squad. Dowlin is no way ready for the senior squad and should be given a chance with the A team longer. I also believe it is time Gayle drops himself lower in the order for test cricket. Rampaul is not quite ready for this level either. Roach need a lot of coaching, gives too much loose balls in his quest for speed. He needs a coach now he is fast and foolish. Benn has shot his bolt and Shillingford should be given a chance along with Miller. Khan does not show me he is quite ready for this level of play and needs more time with the A team.

  • rastadoc on June 8, 2010, 20:41 GMT

    In response 2 Riffy's imput,where do u get ur information from? Baugh av played five (5) test match for da WI. Do u consider that to b a good run for a W/keeper batsman to establish himself n show his true class? Ramdin av played thirty nine (39) but u c no problem with him playing another series,lol. Over da last five years, if da selectors had let Baugh played da ODI's n T20I's, Ramdin would av been a much better test batsman by now. FULLSTOP>

  • RickyRuns on June 8, 2010, 19:08 GMT

    It is sad that we as WI supporters can call for Samuels to be back on the team so early. Has our cricket gone so bad that a man no longer has to prove himself to walk into our team? I am Trini,but also the first to admit that Ramdin has done nothing in the recent pass to deserve a place on this side, however some of the players being asked for cant make our A team. In a perfect world all our players will be fit and we can play a side with the likes of Sarwan / Barath / Taylor and Edwards but that not so. Therefore my eleven is as follows: Chris / Dowlin / Chanders / Nash / Deonarine / Dwayne / Ramdin / Sammy / Shillingford / Benn / Roach. Silva-Surfa your injury free side is a dream come true for me.

  • Vishal10995 on June 8, 2010, 16:00 GMT

    This is the best time to try out Samuels. Because i feel he should be a aprt of 2011 World Cup. So he needs to play some competitive cricket.Even darren bravo should be tried out.

    Ideal WI XI

    1) Chris Gayle 2) Travis Dowlin 3) Marlon Smauels 4) Shivnarine Chanderpaul 5) Dwayne Bravo. 6) Darren Bravo. 7) Dinesh Ramdin. 8) Darren Sammy 9) Kemar Roach. 10)Nelon Pascal. 11)Gavin Tonge.

  • riffy on June 8, 2010, 13:04 GMT

    First of all this is nonsense talk about Samuels coming into the team, it's to soon. As for these selectors, god alone knows how these idiots get paid to do this crap. The young Bharath should have been included and also our new prospective leg spinner from trinidad, Khan. These are the young guys that should have been included on this side. As for Ramdin, he is the best we have at the moment and if he fails in this tour, then the young Dowrich should be given a shot, Baugh has received a number of chances but his is total rubbish so considering him is out of the question. Richards should never have bee dropped from this squad also. It's a damn shame, shame on the WICB board.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 8, 2010, 11:13 GMT

    We need to start afresh from the very top. From the Board to the Selectors. Get some new faces, who have knowledge and experience within West Indies cricket, by injecting some passion and fresh ideas to our structure and organisation. We need an academy in every Caribbean Country/Island, that is interested in cricket. Professional Coaches to teach the youngsters about the basics of the game, install discipline and Professionalism, which will mould the potential talents into top class cricketers. Cricket has moved on in so many ways from fitness demands of players to the facilities that are available and this is where other countries are way ahead of us. Gone are the days of depending on ability alone, everything is structured and organised at a very high and professional standard. Until we get with the programme, we'll always struggle regardless of how much talent, that is available.

  • delboy on June 8, 2010, 10:58 GMT

    9 out of 10 instances, personal stats relate to the performer in the losing team. Rather than comparing players individual stats for inclusion/exclusion look at their performances overall as part of a team.Also take the opposition into the equation; how much do you know about their strengths, weaknesses etc? Try not to compare apples with pears but rather apply true techniques which focus on goals, objectives and how to achieve them.

    For example; Mr Gayle gave his bowler clear instructions of how he the captain wanted to approach a scenario, but the individual felt too big to be TOLD...Herein lies the root of the problem with WI cricket everyone knows what the problems are but no one can produce the action (GAME) plan to resolve them.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 8, 2010, 10:53 GMT

    In reply to Metman...well that's one decisive way to settle all the petty issues, but i for one hopes that it never comes to this. The bottom line is that we haven't produced the quality that we were blessed with between the 1950s to 1980s. Bar a few exceptions, the quality in depth has fallen drastically. Some would say that it was because certain players didn't get a fair run in the team and there is alot of truth in that, but it wouldn't of made a great deal of difference in the overall scale of things. Our cricket is in decline, simple as that and for those who want to defend their fellow-Islanders and play the blame-game elsewhere, only do this because it's the easiest option to create a scapegoat. The West Indies are unique because we're the only cricketing nation that has the Board, Selectors, Management, Coach and Captain that has to delegate and negotiate amongst representatives from different Countries/Islands.

  • Metman on June 7, 2010, 22:02 GMT

    Someone said that TT should pull away from WI.cricket and go it alone!I totally agree, so should Barbados (who has won more titles than all the others combined,and who has contributed to the WI.sucess more than all the other Islands),Guyana ,Jamaica,and the Windwards and Leewards.We will then render the WICB and the selectors NULL and VOID.The ICC should then devise a format involving those Islands,Bangladesh,Zimbabwe,Ireland,Canada,USA and Afghanistan,so that they will play each other.The top 2 ,will then get a chance to play against the other Test playing nations in T20s, ODIs ,and Test matches.Note that the respective Governments should pay and be responsible for their own players.That would certainly cut out all the bias and insularity among the Board and the selectors.This bias and insularity is now trickling down to some of the West Indianl Umpires.WEST INDIES CRICKET IS IN A MESS! and the ICC needs to step in and tell the WICB to put their house in order or else.

  • lara71 on June 7, 2010, 21:47 GMT

    to me that should not be the squad. MY TEAM WOULD BE: Chris Gayle, Devon Smith,,shivnarine Chanderpaul, DArren Bravo, Dwayne BRavo, NASH, Ramdhin, darren sammy, benn, kemar roach, taylor. i realise there is no sarwan, edwards and adrian bahrath but westindies should not use that as a excuse and the senior players need to perform and set the platform for the young players.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 7, 2010, 13:05 GMT

    I see some people are letting their local-bias, campaign for any preferences within the Squad. I thought that Dowlin and Deonarine deserve another chance after playing so well in the Test matches against Australia. Despite Ramdin being the best glove-man in the Caribbean, he hasn't done himself any favours, as the terrible run with the bat continues. But i must admit to being surprised of the omission of Dale Richards. I thought he was one of the better batsmen during the ODI series and seeing that he's been unlucky with injuries, when originally selected for a test match, might have got another chance. My injury-free 11 would be: 1.Gayle, 2.Barath, 3.Sarwan, 4.Chanderpaul, 5.Dwayne Bravo, 6.Nash, 7.Ramdin, 8.Taylor, 9.Benn, 10.Roach, 11.Edwards.

  • kemmisito on June 7, 2010, 6:37 GMT

    CONTINUATION FROM BELOW: I hear many people calling for Pollard to be included in the test squad. He needs to work on his technique before that happens. Also many of you (probably Jamaicans) are asking for Marlon Samuels to be picked. People we need to put our national agendas aside and think as West Indians. The WI team can't be made up of Jamaicans alone, or Bajans alone, or Trinis alone. It has to be a combination of the best. If all the best are from 1 country then so be it but we all know this is not the case. Marlon has not played competitive cricket for 2 years so he needs time to prove that he deserves a place in the team. The best 11 that can be picked right now is: [1.Gayle] [2.Barath] [3.Darren Bravo] [4.Shiv] [5.Deonarine] [6.Nash] [7.Baugh] [8.Imran Khan] [9.Shillingford] [10.Rampaul] [11.Roach]. If Rampaul continues to be ineffective in test matches then he can be replaced by another young fast bowler or hopefully Taylor and Edwards are back soon.

  • kemmisito on June 7, 2010, 6:35 GMT

    I honestly don't understand why these guys are being paid to be selectors cuz they continue to do a horrible job. I'm a St. Lucian but I don't believe that Sammy should be picked for test matches as he is a containing bowler not a penetrative one. Ramdin has overstayed his welcome as he clearly cannot bat at this level. I would look at giving Baugh a chance or the Antiguan keeper Devon Thomas as he looks promising. I honestly don't believe that Dwayne Bravo is a good enough batsman to make it into the top 6 of a test side especially since the other 5 aren't all that amazing with the exception of Shiv. He might be able to bat at 7 if 3 other very good bowlers are picked but right now we don't have that luxury. I would give his brother Darren a run along with Barath. Dale Richards also looked promising so I would not write him off. Benn is not penetrative enough so I think Imran Khan who seems to be a bit of an all-rounder should be looked at along with Shillingford.

  • rastadoc on June 7, 2010, 3:07 GMT

    PLEASE people PLEASE,we need 2 b realistic,Y r U all naming ur 11 from cricketers who r not even name in da 14 pick by da WICB selectors.Baugh,Samuels,Sarwan, Edwards, Pollard,Collins, Dowrich,Bernard,Braithwate n Simmons r not considered by da board so it makes no sense 2 speculate.Someone said Bernard is da best allrounder in da WI but how is he gonna make da team over Bravo n Sammy?Yes, he av a better test batting ave,40.40,Bravo-32.40,Sammy-19.40,but his bowling ave is da worse of da three,46.25,bravo-38.14 n Sammy's-27.74 so U do da maths,ha ha. N u know what,u could add Pollard 2 that list,M Holding said he is not a cricketer but i think he is over rated as a T20 player bcuz that is where he av his worse ave. Odi-19.92,T20I-12.62,T20-22.41. He is yet 2 play a test but he av a better first class ave,37.46,Bravo-31.22,Bernard-28.41 n Sammy-25.07 so U all check da stats n do da maths lol.Pollard av time on his side bcuz he is da youngest of da lot but Bernard won't,he is da oldest.

  • Demitrius on June 6, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    seriously, i know people will scoff at this, but i dont think samuels should ever play for WI again after that ban and also since he was the man who literally ran out Lara in his farewell innings at the 2007 world cup. as for the test squad selected...lord have mercy. i do not think that bowling line up can bowl out SA in a single innings and as for the batting...it seems dowlin is our new opener. no apparent update on bharath's injury seems available, though it IS weird that for one so young he is already blighted by injury. if we are pulling up guys from the A-team, then why not Imran Khan?? he has been excellent for T&T thus far and pretty good on tour. Besides, i dont think SA have had much exposure to legspin of late. worth a shot i say. if i had to pick a starting 11 from this squad it would have to be in batting order 1.gayle 2.dowlin 3.chanders 4.dwayne bravo 5. nash 6.ramdin 7. sammy 8.rampaul 9. shillingford 10. roach 11. pascal. anyone else wanna make a pick???

  • Metman on June 6, 2010, 22:12 GMT

    @Bravowindies,are you telling me that you would make Ganga ,Chris Gayles advisor on the field?Look Trini,we are living in a real World ,not a perfect World nor a fantasy world.,so you must get real.Ganga may be a great tactician with the TRINIDAD/TOBAGO team,a team made up of all players from the same COUNTRY!and they all give their support in the past,although that is waning in the present.Do you honestly believe that he would get the cooperation of all the players from the different Islands,especially the Jamaicans,after what Lara did to Walsh?TT did well in the IPL,you know why?they were made up of players from the same country and playing together as a unit for a number of years.There was nothing magical about Gangas captaincy.All the other teams were made up of players from different clubs and Countries around the world.If Barbados,Jamaica or Guyana were there,they would have performed just as well or better.Ganga will never open again for the w.I.and he would never be captain.

  • Bravowindies on June 6, 2010, 20:38 GMT

    Samuels has just completed his two year term and he is promised by board that he would definitely be considered after playing domestic cricket cauz that is the real process. As far as ramdin is concerned, he is fine for tests but i think board should give baugh a go in one dayers and 20/20 as a preparation for next year world cup before its too late. Barath too will be back soon and with edwards, jerome taylor, sarwan ans samuels back in the team will have a great effect i am sure.

  • Bravowindies on June 6, 2010, 20:30 GMT

    First of all situation in south africa right now isn't great. They too are struggling to get win and like i said windies could've won series 4-1 but they screwed it. Right now in this side only concern is dowlin for me otherwise team looks pretty balanced and with roach and pascal alongwith spinners and bravo windies can penetrate easily into troublesome southafrican team. Its just a matter of playing sensibly and according to situation. Windies could've won atleast a test match from australia last year but every time they come close they are unable to finish it. So don't sya it would be over in 3 days but you can say a white wash or a 2-0 result. Be coooooool!

  • zxsw on June 6, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    sammy should be rested for the first test and play shillingford as the second spinneralong with benn because due to the condition the pitch will be .i also think this should be the batting line up: 1. galye 2.dowlyn3.chanderpaul 4.daren bravo 5. deonarine 6.nash 7.dw bravo 8. ramdin 9.benn10. shillingford 11.Roach.

  • on June 6, 2010, 18:29 GMT

    really?? are the w/i selectors serious.y is dowlin in the team? what on earth is ramdin still doing in anybody's squad? come on selectors, ure gonna ask this bunch of bowlers to take 20 s/a wickets...lol. u guys are a joke. yea me too, id love to see samuels wit his classy strokes bk in the team...but his care-free attitude...nah...let him play some cricket, score a ton of runs first, leave him out..let him want it, work for it.

  • kempson94 on June 6, 2010, 17:57 GMT

    i like rastadoc's logic. probably a better selector than those in the WI. however we musn't forget the injuries this side has. the best WI team would certainly win at least one test if not two. gayle, barath, sarwan, dwayne bravo, shiv, nash, ramdin, sammy, benn, edwards, roach is surely one of the top six sides in the world on paper. sadly this isn't the case and only the weather or a big performance from shiv will prevent a 3-0 sa win.

  • kingstonsfinest on June 6, 2010, 17:29 GMT

    First of all lets not delude ourselves, WI will loose the 3 test series either 2-0 or 3-0, no matter who plays unfortunately this is the situation. Some of you people commenting here are talking about samuels when teh guy has not played cricket in 2 years, some of you are talking about braithwaite and dowrich although they havent even been picked for the A team, its one thing to want to change things up but we cant just play people for playing them sake. Gayle, dowlin, dwayne bravo, shiv chanderpaul, deonarine, nash, ramdin, benn, rampaul, roach, shillingford if this is not the final 11 I can guarantee you the match will be over in 3 days.

  • on June 6, 2010, 15:54 GMT

    Why was Dale Richards Omitted?He look so comfortable against the South African bowlers,I think he should have been given a chance at the top of the order.

  • ziamoni on June 6, 2010, 14:59 GMT

    i want to see Sammy included and Samuels back.Gayle can act as a 2nd spinner and would like to see him at no.3.west need to think about a new keeper.Jermaine Lawson was the best seamer after Walsh & Ambrose.where is he?Collins can be a good guy to call up.pollard need to brought down to earth.my 1st lineup would like 1.Dowlin 2.Braithwate 3.Gayle 4.chanderpaul 5.Nash 6. bravo 7.Simmons(wk.)8.Benn 9.Rampaul 10. Collins 11.Sammy/shilingford.Expecting the game to go to 5 day.good luck.

  • Bravowindies on June 6, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    @metman. I know ganga is not the greatest batsman but he is a tactical captain. M Clarke of australia is not an ideal batsman for 20 cricket but his captaincy skills has inspired his team and they reached final for the first time cauz he attacks and look for wickets. Bishop pointed out in the last match that gayle didn't put pressure on duminy when he came out to bat and gayle given up when kallis was going smoothly untill his wicket fell. Gayle is one dimensional and it works someday and the other day it won't. With bravo as his likely successor i am sorry. Gayle has done well in the past but again it was a mixture of good and bad. I think board must make some couragious decisions here and look for something tactical. In the 3rd odi it was run a ball target but nobody in the team took responsibility. In the final odi gayle chose bravo for penultimate over who was struggling and bravo gave away well set match when he only had to put ball in the right area and so much wides...ahhh!

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 6, 2010, 11:41 GMT

    Roach is just comin off an injury i wood have rested him until @ least the second test. then more than likely he will be better able 2 let it rip @ barbados. i wood replace him with Tonge. then swap dowlin for Samuels. final 11 Deonarine & Samuels openers then Gayle, Chanderpaul, Darren Bravo, Nash, Bravo, Ramdin, Benn, Tonge, Shillingford. Bravo & Tonge start off with the new ball. then we bowl the spinners.

    i feel Gayle would value his wicket more if played @ #3 if the openers build a good start then thats great & if they dont maybe he wont be so quick 2 throw his wicket away! either of the bravo's could open with Deonarine or Nash we need 2 change things up sumtimes we r 2 predictable.

  • Lees_Legends on June 6, 2010, 4:12 GMT

    @deroychand: That side would get thrashed worse than this squad is likely to

  • venkatesh018 on June 6, 2010, 3:56 GMT

    Why is Kieron Pollard not in the test team? It would be interesting to know whether the selectors did not choose him, or Pollard was allowed to choose a lucrative county contract with Somerset instead of representing the Windies by the Windies Cricket Board. What message are these boards sending to the international game?

  • on June 6, 2010, 1:12 GMT

    One solution would be to use Deo as an opener with Gayle in doing this you would allow darren bravo to come in the team and fill the no 3 spot. chander @ 4 bravo @ 5 nash @6 ramdin@7 and the rest to follow. I will have to play deo because of his last innings in Aus. hard luck to sammy but you cannot pack a test team with allrounders since you already have bravo. benn and shilly would play along with roach and either pascal or rampaul

  • deroychand on June 6, 2010, 1:04 GMT

    what about dowrich the under 19 wicketkeeper and brathwaite ?give these young guys a chance as they did well in the under 19 world cup and other series.my final 11 is gayle,brathwaite,deonarine,chanderpaul,nash,bravo,dowrich,sammy,shillingford,roach and pascal.this is about giving the youth a chance along with some experienced players.

  • rastadoc on June 5, 2010, 22:55 GMT

    Y should we go with 2 specialist spinners when Gayle,Nash n deonarine can spin n back up Benn?I'm worried about da opening slot.Barath is injured n they did not recall smith,(B side)so da omission of D Richards is also a puzzle bcuz he was in da ODI side n did not perform worse than anybody else. I av said enough about da W/Keeper slot time n time again,Baugh should av played da 20/20 n ODI's so that Ramdin would get sum rest n b fresh 4 da test series.He is gonna b tired plus he is lacking in confidence @ da moment.Samuels cannot just walk in da team like that, he av 2 play sum domestic cricket 4 JA n bat himself back into da team.Ganga is a very good tactical captain but he is a DOMESTIC cricketer n will NEVER make da WI side again,they should make him da PERMANENT captain of da B side so our future cricketers will av proper cricket discipline. I think Pascal make this team over Tonge bcuz of his greater speed.Dowlin is 33 so if he did not make this team then he surely would b domed.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 5, 2010, 22:03 GMT

    I can't believe how unlucky the boyz have been with injuries. Coming to think of it, since the players strike last year, have we fielded out a full strength team? With Barath, Sarwan and Taylor injured, Edwards seems to be on the shelf indefinately, it's hard enough facing the likes of Australia in a test series and now South Africa with all our first choice players available, let alone a depleted one. I just hope that they can show the competitive spirit, as they did in the final two test matches down under. It's always refreshing to see some youngsters making their debut, so i wish both Shillingford and Pascal the best of luck. With Trinidad usually favouring spin, i would play both fulltime spinners next Thursday. 1.Gayle, 2.Dowlin, 3.Deonarine, 4.Chanderpaul, 5.Dwayne Bravo, 6.Nash, 7.Ramdin, 8.Benn, 9.Roach, 10.Shillingford, 11.Pascal. A long tail i know, but with 4 key players missing, we'll be fielding a weak side, regardless of what final 11 is chosen. Fingers crossed..

  • on June 5, 2010, 21:54 GMT

    I really hope that Barath comes back soon, but in his absence Dowlin has to open with Gayle, he is not a talented cricketer by any means but he has heart, and w.i. need more players like that. Also Darren Bravo should be given his test debut, this is his club ground so he is use to the conditions, as well as he is a very talented batsman who is in great form. shillingford should also be given a call to the final 11. i truly hope the ramdin finds form in this series as he is a much better player than he has displayed in the last year or so. I would also like to see some of the w.i. under 19 players entering the senior setup, especially guys like brathwaite and cariah. its time for the wicb to give more youth players a chance in order to make the slots for places in the w.i team a lot more competitive than it is now, and stop talking about this is the best that we have. Let the players fight for their places. i think our cricket would be a lot better for it.

  • lugujaga on June 5, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    If Sammy can't make this West Indies test team hands down with ease ,then West Indies cricket and their selectors wuold have commited a travesty of justice .He is the best allrounder we have in the carribbean at the moment in the W.I. team. The selectors should let form justice prevail and play Darren Sammy for the entire South African series and give him the chance he so ritchly deserve, to show what he can produce for this struggliung WestIndies team.

  • Metman on June 5, 2010, 21:08 GMT

    Darren Ganga in the year 2010 is RUBBISH.I cannot understand how some cricket novices can be calling for him and Pollard to be included in W.I. test teams.Look ,the only team that he should be in is the TT team ,and I am not too sure he is still getting the support of the whole team.This one is for bip17,Pollard is not a batsman.He is a professional slugger,who scores his runs in the middle when the bowlers are tired and the shine off the ball.Pollard ,yes, in T20s and ODIs ,but not in Tests.The only problem I have with this team is Ramdin.Is he untouchable?and what about Pedro Collins?He was the leading fast bowler in the last 4 day tournament.

  • on June 5, 2010, 19:04 GMT

    This W.I team is light on batting and i don't think they stand a chance against S.A.

  • on June 5, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    I think the batting is a bit weak i wonder what ever happened to bharath and they sure should pick samuel over dowlin because you have another spin option and as well batting as for ramdin time to turn a new page give baugh a chance.

  • joelrondel on June 5, 2010, 18:12 GMT

    this west indies team looks like a strong middle order with the return of nash. Gayle and dowlin should open until barath is fit, then darren bravo,chanderpaul, nash, bravo, ..ramdin is needed very much,.. sammy,( ben or shane) seening the pitch conditions i would go with shane,, ravi , and roach two pace attack ...not to sure about deonarine nor pascal... b Nash needs to be added to all formats of the games he bats with comand sence and does not give away his wicket and needs to come in at no 3 .......

  • Dason on June 5, 2010, 18:10 GMT

    The article specifically said Barath was dropped....not excluded due to any injury.

  • on June 5, 2010, 18:09 GMT

    I too is concerned that the selectors have not picked a squad with no specialist opener,travis downlin is too vulnerable and tentative with the new ball.The next thing: baugh should be given a call as well just to give ramdin a run for his money,the selectors keep on making ramdin feels he is a sure pick. They have got to really find a batsman keeper. I feel they will play two spinners based on how the last one day game at trinidad pan out.They should also give darren bravo the go ahead in this first test,this is his home and club ground so he should be familiar with conditions.

  • SettingSun on June 5, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    They continue to ignore David Bernard from the test side, which is ridiculous, really. 3-0 to South Africa with no problems at all, I predict.

  • Bravowindies on June 5, 2010, 17:42 GMT

    I opted for ganga as a gayle partner in my last post. The reason is that during frustrating series, gayle asked board to groom a captain cauz i am not doing it forever. There are two things behind this, whether chris has given up or he is looking for better support cauz at present he is not getting any. With this current team i don't find any alternative for gayle, that's why i feel that ganga must be brought into the side so that he can support gayle as a real deputy and even take over in the future if there is a need arises. Ganga has proven with his trinidad team that he is a tactical captain. Gayle is one dimensional, sometimes he attacks so furiously on the field and sometimes he just sit back and relax. Cricket is becoming more of mind game and gayle needs someone who can back him up and guide him when he is down. We all saw that windies could've won 4-1 but they lost all matches in the final over and approach again was not tactical which this game now demands.Gayle needs help!

  • bip17 on June 5, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    Drama,Drama and more drama wi will never learn from thier mistakes where is polard,he is much better player then dowlin or brendon nash,and why the hell his is batting so lower down the order he need to abt at no 4,and he is ahndy bowler too.i think another innings defeat will be on the cards for wi,god bless wi cricket,goes are the old days

  • ravsman on June 5, 2010, 17:23 GMT

    This is my final eleven Gayle, Dowlin, Chanderpaul, Deonarine, Dwayne Bravo , Nash , Ramdin , Shillingford , Roach, Benn, Pascal or Sammy

    Rampaul is out cause he just dosen't seem penetrative enough, Darren Bravo is promising but not yet quite there as yet and me might be a risk to play.....that's a pretty decent test eleven i think.....should give south africa a decent challenge....

  • Bravowindies on June 5, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    Yup shillingford is a good inclusion alogwith pascal. Its good to see young guys coming in and hopefully we find some choices in our bowling attack. If you look at australia they have dozens of bowlers waiting for their call but not getting into the side.Only worry in this squad is gayle's opening partner. Barath was sitting in pavillion in the last odi and commentators were saying that he hasn't recovered from injury, so lets hope he gets fit cauz he does support gayle in a way gayle desperately need. Dowlin is not a great option i guess i would definitely give ganga a chance not only he would open with gayle but also support gayle in the field cauz he is a fine and intelligent cricketer. I hope samuels gets picked by board in near future, he really can boost up middle order which is vulnerable right now. My final eleven would be Gayle, Dowlin, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Bravo, Nash, Ramdin, Shillingford, Benn, Roach n Pascal.

  • diwal on June 5, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    west indies wont win this test series also because they always play wid 10 players......... the presence of dinesh ramdin is jst 4 namesake, he never perforfs. find other wicket kepper

  • on June 5, 2010, 16:32 GMT

    i would play shillinford and benn together because trinidad pitches offer turn and south africans do not play spin all that well as we saw what swann did in south africa .but that battle with the exception of gayle and chanderpaul looks brittle and inexperienced but i expect windies to do better in tests.the bowling will also struggle as roach has just come in to international cricket and he has to spearhead the tack along with rampaul and pascal so thats why i would play two spinners

  • RichieScotty on June 5, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    Who do you think is going to open with Gayle?

  • carlboodhoo on June 5, 2010, 15:45 GMT

    This is the same team from the ODIs with some exception...we need performers...Ramdin for one is a good keeper but not doing anything with the bat...why not try out the keeper from the Under 19 cup!...Where is Barath? Try some of the bowlers from the U19 Tornament...looked @ the games and they have potential to upset teams...over guys bowl alot of garbage in the ODIs!

  • kingstonsfinest on June 5, 2010, 15:26 GMT

    I agree with rastdoc on this one cant understand why devon smith was not recalled as well seeing that there is no specialist opener in the side, I had heard that Brath had knee problems and it is very unfortunate that once again key players are breaking down Sarwan, Barath and Taylor. But i would prefer to see 2 spinners on the Trinidad surface so i would play gayle, dowlin, dwayne bravo, chanderpaul, deonarine, nash, ramdin, benn, rampaul, roach, shilingford, with some luck this side might push the South Africans to five days.

  • WI-NZ-SA-ENG on June 5, 2010, 15:20 GMT

    is barath still injured? n they should pick a wiketkeeping batsmen lyk walton.. this could have been alot better

  • rastadoc on June 5, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    I do not c a specialist opener here 2 walk out with Gayle so da selectors got it wrong AGAIN. Y did'nt they pick Des Smith from da B side? If they play Shillingford over Benn (which i don't think they will do),then there is no need 2 take Benn around as baggage.I av always prefer Pascal over Tonge but his selection here shows up da inconsistency of da selectors bcuz Tonge av already played 1 test. It is not easy 2 pick an eleven from this bunch but i would go with this team n wish them LUCK,Gayle,Dowlin,Chanderpaul,Deonarine,Nash,Bravo,Ramdin,Benn,Rampaul,Roach n Pascal.

  • moneague on June 5, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Shillingford is a good addition to the team. Is Barath still injured? Dowlin has not done enough to warrant a call up now. He should be kept a little longer on the A team. Cant see why they have kept Ramdin and not included Baugh on the side. He has had too many chances. The batting lacks depth. We need another good midorder batsman . What of Samuels? He sure should get a recall over Dowlin

  • on June 5, 2010, 11:56 GMT

    congrats to shillingford as well but I am wondering what is going on with Barath? I am not aware that he is injured so I am a bit puzzled.

  • on June 5, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    As a Dominica I would like to congratulate Shane on being called to the West Indies Squad for the test matches against South Africa after a number of consistent performances over the last few year in regional Cricket and recently during his stint on the West indies A Team,I very Proud of you,I be looking on with interest.......

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  • on June 5, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    As a Dominica I would like to congratulate Shane on being called to the West Indies Squad for the test matches against South Africa after a number of consistent performances over the last few year in regional Cricket and recently during his stint on the West indies A Team,I very Proud of you,I be looking on with interest.......

  • on June 5, 2010, 11:56 GMT

    congrats to shillingford as well but I am wondering what is going on with Barath? I am not aware that he is injured so I am a bit puzzled.

  • moneague on June 5, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Shillingford is a good addition to the team. Is Barath still injured? Dowlin has not done enough to warrant a call up now. He should be kept a little longer on the A team. Cant see why they have kept Ramdin and not included Baugh on the side. He has had too many chances. The batting lacks depth. We need another good midorder batsman . What of Samuels? He sure should get a recall over Dowlin

  • rastadoc on June 5, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    I do not c a specialist opener here 2 walk out with Gayle so da selectors got it wrong AGAIN. Y did'nt they pick Des Smith from da B side? If they play Shillingford over Benn (which i don't think they will do),then there is no need 2 take Benn around as baggage.I av always prefer Pascal over Tonge but his selection here shows up da inconsistency of da selectors bcuz Tonge av already played 1 test. It is not easy 2 pick an eleven from this bunch but i would go with this team n wish them LUCK,Gayle,Dowlin,Chanderpaul,Deonarine,Nash,Bravo,Ramdin,Benn,Rampaul,Roach n Pascal.

  • WI-NZ-SA-ENG on June 5, 2010, 15:20 GMT

    is barath still injured? n they should pick a wiketkeeping batsmen lyk walton.. this could have been alot better

  • kingstonsfinest on June 5, 2010, 15:26 GMT

    I agree with rastdoc on this one cant understand why devon smith was not recalled as well seeing that there is no specialist opener in the side, I had heard that Brath had knee problems and it is very unfortunate that once again key players are breaking down Sarwan, Barath and Taylor. But i would prefer to see 2 spinners on the Trinidad surface so i would play gayle, dowlin, dwayne bravo, chanderpaul, deonarine, nash, ramdin, benn, rampaul, roach, shilingford, with some luck this side might push the South Africans to five days.

  • carlboodhoo on June 5, 2010, 15:45 GMT

    This is the same team from the ODIs with some exception...we need performers...Ramdin for one is a good keeper but not doing anything with the bat...why not try out the keeper from the Under 19 cup!...Where is Barath? Try some of the bowlers from the U19 Tornament...looked @ the games and they have potential to upset teams...over guys bowl alot of garbage in the ODIs!

  • RichieScotty on June 5, 2010, 15:51 GMT

    Who do you think is going to open with Gayle?

  • on June 5, 2010, 16:32 GMT

    i would play shillinford and benn together because trinidad pitches offer turn and south africans do not play spin all that well as we saw what swann did in south africa .but that battle with the exception of gayle and chanderpaul looks brittle and inexperienced but i expect windies to do better in tests.the bowling will also struggle as roach has just come in to international cricket and he has to spearhead the tack along with rampaul and pascal so thats why i would play two spinners

  • diwal on June 5, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    west indies wont win this test series also because they always play wid 10 players......... the presence of dinesh ramdin is jst 4 namesake, he never perforfs. find other wicket kepper