Sri Lanka v India, Group F, World Twenty20 2010, St Lucia

India's island dreams shatter again

Andrew McGlashan in St Lucia

May 11, 2010

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MS Dhoni was contained by Sri Lanka's bowlers, Sri Lanka v India, Group F, World Twenty20, St Lucia, May 11, 2010
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India have had another Caribbean nightmare. Three years ago they were the kings of Twenty20 but now have some serious thinking to do about the shortest format. For the second tournament in succession they have been dumped without a win in the Super Eights and defeat never goes down well back home. And this from a side in which every member played at the IPL. Ideal preparation? Obviously not.

This exit may not create the seismic activity that followed the early flight home in the 2007 World Cup, but it is bound to produce plenty of harsh assessment. The inquisitions had started even before this match, with India only having an outside chance of progressing. That faint hope disappeared once Sri Lanka reached 144 in their run-chase and a demoralised side then gave up the match off the last ball. Four sixes in the final eight deliveries carried Sri Lanka to an impressive success and their all-round performance was the complete opposite of what India have been able to produce.

MS Dhoni managed a few smiles in his press conference as he was grilled in expected fashion. Partly that was due to an interruption from the PA announcer about an illegally parked car, but also when he was asked about how this would go down in India. He knows what it will be like. He's been here before and it won't be pleasant.

"As captain you are always under pressure," he said. "I think it's the responsibility of the captain to explain why the team didn't do well because he's the face of the team. He gets the credit when he goes well and he also gets the criticism. It shouldn't reach into your private life but we are leading a country where cricket is a big sport and each time we go out we are expected to win."

But it was the downbeat nature of his assessment of what the team could have done about the situation which was most clear and surprising. "At the end of the day we are on the losing side, nothing much can be done about it because this is the best 15 [players] you can get in India when it comes to T20. At the end of the day if you are outplayed there is nothing much you can do about it."

In hindsight the signs weren't good to start with. They were the last side to arrive and didn't opt for a practice match before their opening game. Dhoni suggested it was the last thing his team needed after a 90-minute coach ride from the international airport in St Lucia to the north of the island. They have also chosen days off rather than practice during the event but Dhoni said "one more practice session wouldn't have made a difference".

They were lucky with the schedule in the group stage as their opening game was against Afghanistan who, for all the romanticism it possibility entailed, were never seriously going to challenge India. That gave them breathing space and the victory against South Africa, led by Suresh Raina's 101, was a slick display which boded well. In reality they peaked too soon.

They couldn't handle the pace and bounce of the Barbados pitch and Dhoni has admitted some of the batsmen aren't up to the challenge due to the nature of conditions they are brought up on. There aren't many bouncy tracks at the IPL. When they were back in St Lucia they were right at home on the front foot and Raina was back in the runs. Nothing was bouncing above knee height. Dhoni admitted that India's inability to cope with the bouncer was systemic.

"Most of us have the problem of playing short-pitched balls. So it is not just the youngsters who had problems. We can't neglect it any more. But we don't have bowlers who consistently at 145-50 kph and most of wickets in India don't have that kind of bounce," he said.

"But we should also remember we are good players of spin. So we shouldn't be ashamed that we can't play short-pitched bowling. We have to play even against short balls but we can't be ducking and leaving all the time in Twenty20," Dhoni said.

Win or lose, the role of the IPL was bound to be at the forefront of India's performance. Dhoni has said it's unfair to compare the two, but if anything this World Twenty20 has just gone to reinforce that the quality is actually spread pretty thinly in that tournament. It's a domestic event, albeit a big and brash one. Dhoni also made a subtle suggestion that players needed to take responsibility for themselves.

"I've had no setbacks because of the IPL but at the same time players need to be smart because IPL is not only about cricket," he said. "You have to respect your body and if you don't do that then IPL is draining. If you play late games and go to the parties and travel the next day it takes a toll. But if you take care of yourself 45 days of cricket shouldn't affect you because we play 200 or more in a year."

It's a question of priorities for this India team and maybe international Twenty20 is now down the list. Now that they are top of the tree in Test cricket the BCCI is trying to arrange Test series left, right and centre so they can retain the mantle. South Africa's tour earlier this year was adjusted to include two Tests and Australia are now being asked for the same when they visit in October. If the BCCI really do want to help the future of Test cricket then it's a great move, but it is clearly more than coincidence.

India next's assignment is a triangular series in Zimbabwe alongside the hosts and Sri Lanka with what, in effect, is a shadow side. Senior players, including Dhoni, are being rested, which suggests he is more tired than he has admitted.

However, for Dhoni there is a huge challenge on the horizon over the next nine months - preparing his team for a World Cup on home soil. Failure here will be hard to stomach for the billions of fans, but failure next year won't be tolerated.

Andrew McGlashan is assistant editor of Cricinfo

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Posted by   on (May 16, 2010, 18:52 GMT)

i accept what sundar1967 says, indian players get a lot of money playing in ipl so they don't wanna give much stress to t20 cup.

Posted by sundar1967 on (May 15, 2010, 6:14 GMT)

I put the blame squarely on IPL. Because in matter of 45 to 50 days players are getting more money in IPL. I think indians by playing IPL alone and make money. The pride of playing for the nation is lost. for the sake of nation ban IPL.

Posted by Kachada1 on (May 14, 2010, 16:42 GMT)

"Former cricketers lash out" ... one comment to the former cricketers that are lashing out ... except for Kapil, and, his men of '83, the rest of you have not won much either. You TOO had your short comings against the short ball. So give your mouths a rest. To cure this, prepare pitches that have more bounce than the one at Perth, have the pitch at a 5 to 10 degree angle with the batsman at the lower end of the pitch and make this practise pitch 20 yards. These conditions will improve the reflexes. ... And one more comment to the Indian commentators. Stope using the phrase, "Step up to the plate". It is a baseball analogy and by using it you are just exhibiting your ignorance.

Posted by PTtheAxis on (May 14, 2010, 13:27 GMT)

@jacksparrows: yes ponting did a mistake with lee & thats why ponting is not a 20/20 captain anymore. but dhoni did it with jadeja in 2 matches, one after the other. also he brought himself on instead of letting inform rohit have a hit after 91/1 in 10 agiaisnt SL. dhoni has back problems, is overweight, misses catches, stumpings, gives byes, clogs up balls in 20/20, takes selfish decisions in batting order, keeps his friends in the team , relies on luck in captaincy. he is not even fit enough to be in the team. a new captain and a team of youngsters without full bank accounts is required.

Posted by Rydham on (May 14, 2010, 10:41 GMT)

Enough has been written on the debacle of India. When will we see the same kind of articals on South Africa and West Indies ? Why people easily forgets that these two teams were there and also got eliminated as badly as India.

Posted by   on (May 14, 2010, 9:14 GMT)

india have good fielding side, strong batting lineup, enough spin bowling attack but they lack some good front line fast bowlers.

IPL have given nothing much special to indian team.so think about the IPL and how it affects the players..hope indian wud comeup with a solution.

wish you best of luck for upcoming tournment..wish india will do best.

Posted by JackSparrows on (May 14, 2010, 8:33 GMT)

@PTtheaxis: People only learn from their mistakes, so did Australia and so will India. As Australia found the right composition I am very sure India will too. re Jadeja been given one more over then I will remind of the final over of 1st T20 final where he kept is faith in Joginder Singh, who is a below par bowler but still Dhoni kept faith in him and that did the trick, if you reflect back to last year's T20 what happened to Brett Lee why did Ponting brought him back for another over when he was already peppered by Gayle, one or two incidents doesnt mean anything. I have confidence in Dhoni and Indian players they will bounce back, lets wait for October when OZ visits India then we'll talk...

Posted by Nampally on (May 13, 2010, 21:09 GMT)

India's performance was doleful led by lack lustre captaincy of Dhoni. His team selection & batting order as well as the bowling changes lacked reasoning. His favouring of Jadeja on a fast pitch over Vinay Kumar defied any sensible fan. If Pathan is taken for hitting he should be up in the order or make way for regular batsmen. In the death overs India scored badly thru' the knockout series. Their bowling in last 5 overs was attrocious. They could have won both against WI & SL if only they pressed the early advantage and taken crucial catches such as that of Gayle - askier straight in the hands.Jadjea & Raina between them gave 50 runs in 4 overs against WI. Nehra bowled badly against SL in the death overs. On a slow pitch India failed to get 200 needed to beat SL scoring 37 in last 5 overs with Rain & Dhoni at the crease. If they cannot hit for the fence give way to Pathan - taken for fence hitting. Selectors need to send a team with positive winning attitude not a losing one

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 21:06 GMT)

I knew India not going to win World T20 in West Indies because India in not good enough at foreign soil. At home soil India play good cricket and players think that there is no other team like India or players like them. They feel very proud of them selves. After playing IPL Indian cricketer, selectors and Indian fan though that India going to win World T20 very easily but what happened..........? Same happened in 2009 after playing IPL India did not win World T20. Many Indians believe IPL is best in world but I personally believe IPL is best in making money, not for cricket. In IPL cricketers play so many matches which make tired.IPL not helping India to win any major tournament because in IPL you play against most Indians less foreigners cricketers and in ICC tournament all foreigners. I remember when Mbangwa asked Gavasker, who is favorite to win World T20 2010? He replied, India.I was shocked probably he has no idea of the quality and strength of Australian team

Posted by siddhant_gupta on (May 13, 2010, 19:37 GMT)

I think all the factors that u people are listing for india's poor performance are true but havn't india performed inspite of all this in the past??I think one major factor to lay a finger on is the absence of Sehwag and poor attitude and form of Yuvraj.. When these guyz perform all the points like bouncy pitches, fatigue,team selection etc. are self taken care of!!!

Posted by the_true_indian on (May 13, 2010, 18:10 GMT)

To start with... Why did Dhoni play Ravindra Jadeja after the kind of treatment that he got from the Aussies? I mean, if Ravindra Jadeja was out of form, then he should have been kept out. Was it political pressure? Indian selectors should learn something from their Aussie counterparts who are always ready to leave out their out-of-form star players. Why was Murali Vijay selected instead of Uthappa?

Also, Dhoni has become too predictable with his spin attack and Yuvi should be rested for a while. I personally feel that IPL should be held after the T20 WC. Frankly speaking, it eats away player fatigue and there is always a danger of players getting injured. INTERNATIONAL GLORY IS MORE IMPORTANT, NOT DOMESTIC STARDOM.

Posted by PTtheAxis on (May 13, 2010, 18:08 GMT)

@JackSparrows: hasn't australia changed their whole appraoch including the captain after the 2 T20 exits. haven't they changed their batting order, brought nannes in. dhoni was responsible for all the bad toss/on field decisions. who else is to blame if he gves jadeja another over after being hit for 3 sixes? if status quo persists in regards to dhoni india will not even make it to super 8's in any icc event.

Posted by anmol4india on (May 13, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

I have many things to tell all those who read my view. Firstly, is the BCCI doing enough for the players? I feel players are performing badly due to the selection commitee. The selection comittee needs to be revised. They are playing with the emotions of young cricketers. What was the fault of players like PRAGYAN OJHA and AMIT MISHRA who were constantly dropped frm the side? and what abt players like ROBIN UTHAPPA, IRFAN PATHAN, and SREESANTH who make every possible try to get back into the team and yet fing themselves out of the fray????

Secondly, the selection was a mere blunder nothing else.... a player of test standards gets selected into the T20 team just for one knock ( MURAL VIJAY). what was wrong with the other openers? SHIKHAR DHAWAN could ve been given a chance although he isnt consistent, but whats bad in trying? What was bad with RAYUDU, SAURABH TIWARY? Why werent they given chances in the Zimbabwe series? MANISH PANDEY could well have been given a chance....

Posted by happyguy24 on (May 13, 2010, 15:16 GMT)

Winning and losing is part of game. However, India's performance is way below par. I, personally feel the following reasons for the sub par performance.

1) Players are making good amount of money in different versions of cricket. Especially Indian cricketers. Sure there is an additional amount with endorsements etc. BCCI needs to control this. Players need to realize that they can earn money only by performing consistently. 2) IPL is kind of bad tournament for both players and viewers. It is a good example of too much of cricket kills the game. Personally, I feel it is a senseless tournament other than making money. I saw too many viewer comments based on the regional ties they have within India. That is a very bad sign. This tournament reminds of a chicken running with its head cut off. 3) The selection committe. Indian selection board needs at least one person with brain in their head.

Posted by JackSparrows on (May 13, 2010, 14:53 GMT)

In my opinion lot of people are being harsh on Dhoni, its a team sport and not one man show, he cant be held responsible for how other players perform, he tried his best to manage what suppose to be the best of bunch given to him. There are lot of questions that BCCI selection committee needs to answer why Robin Uthappa and Pragyan Ojha weren't selected, both were in tremendous form and Uthappa plays short stuff quite well. Players from rest of the world played IPL too but why just Indian players are asked the question about IPL affecting their international duties. It is crazy to blame just one person. Why no one criticised OZ for their performance in the first 2 edition of the tournament, they were the best at that time and yet dint even manage to get to Supereights? People please be realistic and stop jumping to conclusion and not give your views based on some silly articles.

Posted by rohit1709 on (May 13, 2010, 14:46 GMT)

Nah, not every member of the Team played in the IPL. Ravindra Jadeja didn't! See, IPL is important for the Team's preparation. Oh wait... it is important for the team's pepperation... that is a new term for being peppered by bouncers, by everyone, including medium pacers.

Posted by Jignesh_UltimateWarriors on (May 13, 2010, 14:46 GMT)

The team selection is a big issue here. Why Pathan is still being persisted? I don't recall any match winning innings from since long. Even in IPL he was terrible. Yuvraj was also terrible in IPL. Ravindra Jadeja didnt play IPL. Why Murali Vijay was picked up ahead of Robin Uthappa? Is he better player than Robin? I don't think so. Dhoni was trying more spinners as it was successful ploy in IPL. But IPL was played in India on slow tracks. Not sure how Irfan would have played but worth giving a chance instead of Yusuf. Mr Dhoni said that we play spinners well and are not comfortable on bouncy tracks against quality fast bowlers. But even on boucy tracks our fast bowlers were pathetic. They lacked speed, accuracy and even field placements were bad. As usual Indian fielding is always terrible.

I wonder how India will fare in tests if there are some after the IPL. I can understand why Dhoni defends IPL.. After all "PAISA IS THE BOSS". Can't blame him alone for playing in IPL.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 14:43 GMT)

I for one is starting to think that theres more in this than technical shortcomings against short pitched deliveries. I think that theres a collective conspiracy by the BCCI to undermine ICC events. Every year the IPL is scheduled just before the world cup. Dhoni was so successful playing 4 quality bowlers and an all rounder in IPL, yet he decides that playing more batsmen is better than getting more quality bowlers in. After winning the toss, with only 3 proper bowlers in the squad Dhoni decides to bat second. and the same combination and the same blunder is repeated against windies too! In that last do or die match they cant get more than 73 runs in the last 10 overs with 9 wickets in hand. especially with murali and mendis missing!. Somethings fishy for sure

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 13, 2010, 14:28 GMT)

SRT "says fans to keep faith in our team" - Mr Tendulkar...only one question...We are number 1 in Tests only coz of Dravid, Yourself, Sehwag, Ganguly, and Laxman. What's the use of being number 1 or number 2 in the world when you cannot compete well in ICC events. Barring 2007 WC which seems to be a fluke to me now, have we done anything to justify our position. Why is it that Australia always come to the party in ICC events, and India plays like a team ranked last in those? Seems like we Indians give more importance to numbers than the calibre or the talent we have got.

As a Team we are number zero when it comes to performance on the field. Barring a very few games, i see only individual brilliances and no team effort.

As a note, Mumbai Indians reached the finals. Finals is anybody's game. and Anyway reaching finals of a domestic tournament can in no way be compared to an ICC event period.

Posted by TestCric on (May 13, 2010, 14:12 GMT)

There is no words to describe Team India's disastrous loss in T20 WC. THE SINGLE REASON FOR THEIR PATHETIC OUSTER IS STUPID, RUBBISH, NON-SENSE IPL WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL TOURNAMENT SELLING 6s AND 4s. This Team India completely lacks Motivation, Inspiration, Self-Belief, Hunger, Fitness needed at International Level. IPL has taken betting to highest level. Team India and BCCI is completely focussed on IPL. Because of IPL, Team India is losing skill, inspiration, motivation and fitness to play Test Cricket. These curators, coaches and BCCI officials are working for IPL growth rather than Cricket growth. Until IPL is thrashed, Team India is not going to perform well in other tournaments. IPL is completely meaningless and obsolete Tournament. Test, ODI & T20 Cricket is great to watch between Countries unlike IPL Teams which look like clubs. Test Cricket is ultimate to watch on sportive pitches. But IPL is making these pitches Lifeless.

Posted by vissu295 on (May 13, 2010, 14:12 GMT)

Come on guys.. too much analysis for a T20 tournament! India is still No.1 in tests and I'll be really happy if the selectors don't pick the test team based on T20 form. They should pick based on performance in domestic cricket.

Posted by blitz123 on (May 13, 2010, 14:10 GMT)

Sehwag in T20. Sehwag and Tendulkar in ODIs and Tests.

Without these how many tournaments against quality opposition has india won ? Probably None.

These two are backbone, and the rest just feed off them.

None of the other players (except Jadeja) are particularly bad, but dont have enough charisma or technique. Rest of the teams have their own champions. Hence this result. They are like New Zealand, only worse in fielding.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 13:55 GMT)

it was far 2222 disgusting to watch those matches,how many times should we watch them ducking under those so called short pitched stuff????against australia.big pace battery,alright maybe fine,rising deliveries at 150!!!but against westindies that too against sammy bowling at 130???blame subcontinental pitches fine!!!!but just one question just hiw the hell did pakistan and srilanka play bouncers???if iam right they are subcontinents 22!!or is it lack of guts?or commitment?or tiredness?yu cant say tiredness thats the same excuse for last t20,so this year indians would have just avoided ipl to be frank!in this much population you cant find atleast one pace bowler who bowls at 150???dhoni is not the only one to blame,NOW SELECTORS YOU HAVE SOME BIG QUESTIONS TO ANSWER!!IF SELECTION IS DECIDED ON PERFOMENCE ALONE,WE WOULD HAVE RULED CRICKET BY NOW!!!

Posted by afs_talyarkhan on (May 13, 2010, 13:54 GMT)

India need to stop picking bits and pieces players like Jadeja, Kumar, Pathan and Karthik and start picking quality slow and quick bowlers. Smith for Australia showed what leggies can do yet Chawla was shamefully left out in favour of Jadeja. Cricketing quality is not rocket science - spinners who can turn the ball, pacers who hurry on to the bat - that is quality in any form of cricket. The young batters need to be made to work harder and aspire to test status - a good start might be to use IPL revenues to reward test cricketers more and IPL cricketers less. Pace bowling academies need to be expanded and injured bowlers given better facilities for rehab - how many seriously quick bowlers we have seen fall victim to injury and never heard of again? Pitches need to be consciously curated to help everyone - batters who play shots, spinners who turn the ball and pacers who like bounce. Why not bring in a special batting coach to help batsmen play short pitched bowling?

Posted by vijaycp on (May 13, 2010, 13:22 GMT)

Maha Shana Dhoni is the right full form of M.S.Dhoni as he has been changing his statements now and then as per the pressure from the IPL administrators who didn't want him to give IPL as an excuse for not playing well when it really mattered during the T20 World Cup. Any Tom Dick or Harry could comment that M.S.Dhoni,Yuvraj Singh,Ashish Nehra,Ravindra Jadeja,Gautam Gambhir were not at all playing with their full potential during the T20 world cup matches as their sure was something cooking in between them while they were on the field or were batting. Just imagine Maha Shana Dhoni scoring 23 from 19 balls with just one SIX and no fours at all.,even Gautam Gambhir could be seen taking singles where their were 2runs and running only 2when he could have easily got 3runs, D.Karthik could be seen coming half the crease while Gambhir was just completing his run. If you are tired OR you do not really wish to give good performance then please give chance to the others who are waiting in Queue.

Posted by hareendram on (May 13, 2010, 12:40 GMT)

What nonsense is this??????? Team india should have already been prepared for short balls since the 2009 world t20. Yuvraj singh should be blamed because he is irresponsible and he is not attacking like before. Of course we missed sehwag badly. The present problem is that there is no one to build as platform. Our bowling line up is also very weak and and also there is no energy for fielding.During practise sessions they practise how to defend instead of hitting big shots. The cash rich ipl is very long and exhausting. In particular the youtube telecast was very bad especially during the finals and semi finals. We can all hope that team india will be prepared for the next t20 world cup.

Posted by srini1088 on (May 13, 2010, 12:19 GMT)

I seriously don get wher did dhoni give IPL as a reason.he just said if players take care of themselves 45 days of ipl ll not have an impact...and ya he was wrong in picking the eleven...but we need to accept that we lost it as a team ...it doesn make sense if we aplaud the captain when the team does well and boo him when the team doesn.....its a team game and not just abt the captain....

Posted by midhun_cm on (May 13, 2010, 12:13 GMT)

Hard to believe that the 15 member squad that was selected for the WT20 was our best....Selection was pethetic, and these selectors have been slecting players from their respective states not even considering wut form the players are in.....Jadeja was a player who didnt play in the IPL, but got selected ,I was wonder struck,were the selectors just assuming that he was still in good form. murali vijay & Yusuf Pathan scored Hundreds in the IPL & it ws just a fluk,were as uttappa,saurab tiwari,Rayadu,Prgyan Ojha,Amit Mishra were all in wonderful form through out the IPL and were not considered for the WT20 & even for the upcoming Zimbabwe tour,i guess ojha has been picked....Yuvraj,Yusuf patha,Murali Vijay,Jadeja,Piyush Chawla played miserably.....

Posted by rahul9450 on (May 13, 2010, 12:06 GMT)

the reason behind the faliure was,they were playing against 4 forigen players in ipl & 11 in international. if you dont play on overseas tracks what kind of players you are that you cant face bouncers & pace attack.this is worst middle order i have seen in my life.They all are the heroic faces of ipl & two country series specially asian opponents. Dhoni has to take the credit after winning but after loss bowlers & batsmans are told defaulters. After taking captaincy india have won cb series,tringular against srilanka without tendulkar they haven`t won kiptly cup,asia cup,idea cup. They all are winning only two sided series specially against srilanka. Nobody knows about "MURLI VIJAY" in ranji before,he was selected without giving performance in ranji. Players like rahane, pujara, dhawan, badrinath, jaffer were neglected besides their performance. Srikant has given chance to every CSK player in indian team, IS THAT FAIR FOR OTHER PLAYERS?

Posted by papadumb on (May 13, 2010, 12:02 GMT)

The entire blame must fall on MS because he never fails to learn from the past. In England he persisted with Ishant Sharma despite his bowling going for a few in every match. This time it was R. Jadeja. Apart from the selection his field placings lacked imagination. SL batsmen started miking the indian spinners for easy singles in the square leg region off literally every ball and yet he did not see it fit to put a fielder there just to creats a bit of pressure and force the batsmen to resort to other tactics. Vinay kumar bowled a great first over and he was promptly changed. Worse still he was forced to change ends. His decision was baffling to say the least.He takes his cool too far and his lack of enthusiasm does not motivate players ala Afridi who despite of being an average captain scores on hands on motivation compared to Dhoni Also it time to get rid of one Yuvraj Singh. He plays like he doesnt give a hoot and is just there to collect his salary. Enough is enough Yuvi!

Posted by zavegur on (May 13, 2010, 11:35 GMT)

TO THE WRITER: India, surely is an over populated country, but that doesnt mean we are in billions in India!! (last line of the article should read 'millions' rather than 'billions')

Posted by sushantsingh39r on (May 13, 2010, 11:30 GMT)

This is not IPL where they play on a slow tracks against 4 foreign players this is International where 11 forigen players play so that's the difference. We see Raina, Vijay, Dhoni, Gambhir, Pathan, Jadeja(not in this year IPL) etc in IPL they played like they can damage any attack but there is problem in playing international as they can't handle bouncers. They can't play pace attack & on slow tracks they can't play OZ. Dhoni always get credit & he is supposed to be hero of winning team but when India losses the players are blammed. In this WT20 and all ICC tournaments India is knonked out & we should think about. We need players who can perfom anywhere likes of Sachin, Dravid, Laxman. India is no. 1 in test cricket due to our seniour palyers & in ODI it is Sachin who played 3 ICC tournaments since Dhoni is captain & India got title in 2 coz of him.

Posted by sanjayverma on (May 13, 2010, 11:23 GMT)

For such small format of the game invent the Pace bolwer pleaseee ...who can generate the speed as least 140-150 km/h, even Bangladesh and Afganitan hav good pace attack than India. this game require 2 quikies as the wicket taker ..we can depned with avg pace in 50-50 and test cricket But T20 just forget it .

lets accept the fact we are far behind with OZ,SA,ENG,NZ.. and there are lots of rooms for the improvment like...consistency,pace attack,good sppiner,fielding and offcource the short ball ....

Posted by Jaijo on (May 13, 2010, 11:07 GMT)

I think its no point cryng over spilt milk. Lets think of the future. lets see wat kris srikkant and co decides. Will Srikkanth still insist on minimum two players from tamilnadu. Will dhoni still persist with his chela Ravindra Jadeja? Will yuvi be dropped?

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 10:48 GMT)

Dhoni is still a good captain in the making,but he definitely selected the wrong team ..............especially leaving out two important performers .............Irfan Pathan and Robin Utappa......interms of team selection dhoni should be rated 0(zero).

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 10:42 GMT)

Everything was a big mistake, starting from the team selection like Yuvraj, Gautam, Yusuf who were nowehre near their form. Zak and Jadeja who had not done anything to deserve a place in eleven. Attitude and the application of all the tied players, who looked like playing for money and not winning. The way Indian bowlers surrendered to Australia attacking batting was the most embarrassing sight for any Indian. Then the batting against the Australia, as if India was batting on a different pitch all together. Indian batting was so poor against not so quality bowling attacks...Thank God Glenn, Alan, Ambrose, Walsh, Waqar and Wasim has retired. Sachin Tendulkar and Virendra Sehwag could play in IPL but did not represent India in an ICC World Cup event, what can you make out of this?? Loosing is never a problem, if you loose after a fight, Indians were never fighting to win a game. They never looked like winnig a game. Look at Pakistan lost the first two games and came back with a bang.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (May 13, 2010, 10:41 GMT)

How can Srikant justify Murali Vijay's selection?? There were far better players like Pandy, Tivari,Naman Ojah etc. Also, its funny that leading wiket takers like Ojah, Mishra not in the team!.

And Dhoni never tried to experiement with the available team. Pathan never get a chance to bat at 1,2 or 3rd position and Vinay kumar not able to make it in playing 11.

Yuvi's was just absent minded and Gambhir's inability to play short pitch added fuel to indian problems.

Posted by Shwetank.dixit on (May 13, 2010, 10:40 GMT)

How could you blame IPL, Star of every team Be it KP, Mahela, Gayle, Warner, Watson, Mathwes, Morgan, Nannes, Tait, Lumb, Kallis Played in IPLand made best out of it. Everyone found their form in IPL (Specially Mahela) and they are doing Gud for their country. I remembered the time when India was loosing the Match and Dhoni was playing DOTS My friend was saying "Just Feed him some money for God's sake, He will play for sure" :(

Posted by Vijay_Patriot on (May 13, 2010, 10:25 GMT)

I am a proud Indian and I still believe that Dhoni & Ashish Nehra are the top of the line cricketers of the world right now...

Posted by AnishBhatnagar on (May 13, 2010, 10:21 GMT)

batting at number 5 on bouncy pitches and promoting himself up the order when the conditions were conducive when u have players like rohit and yusuv sitting clearly depicts dhoni's attitude.. he wants to be among the runs whenever possible.. have seen this happen many a times..

Posted by V.GOMES on (May 13, 2010, 10:06 GMT)

India manipulated the system to be ranked ranked no. 1 in ODI and Test due to "unregulated" tours with Sri Lanka, West Indies, etc. where there were no regulatior for match-fixing involving players, officials and umpires,.. even the manditory URDS telivision replay system was boycotted. Now India continue to only play at home, to maintain the useless no.1 ranking.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 10:02 GMT)

Dhoni is such a class player to write 391 comments criticizing him. Guys he has opened a new chapter of leadership in Indian cricket. He always lead from the front and his understanding about the game is outstanding. Look at the value he brings himself as an keeper all-rounder. Imagine a slot in the XI being taken up by a orthodox keeper. Everybody has a bad day, and this is ours. Let us remain in a good sportsmanship spirit. Of course, it hurts when our team end up loosing, but our time will come too.

Dhoni never said, IPL nights were the reason for the team fatigue. This is just a biased-selective-journalism by some group of media.

Posted by chitraj on (May 13, 2010, 10:01 GMT)

15 best players?!! Yeah right. Right from the outset, the selction was a pile of #@*%. No proper bowlers, no batsmen who were in form and no drive to win! If the IPL was a training/selection ground- How can one justify the inclusion of players like Yuvraj and exclude players like Pathan/Ojha/Mishra? With the number of part time spinners India have and the fact that it was being played in the windies, the team should have been 5 IN FORM batsmen+Dhoni+1 good allrounder (possibly Irfan)+(3 seamers+Harbhajan)/(2 seamers+Harbhajan/another spinner). Bottom line is, strategically India messed up!

Posted by IAJpak on (May 13, 2010, 9:57 GMT)

Being a Pakistani, I would have loved Final between India and Pakistan. May be too much of IPL matches and the first two wins in the group stage were the main reason why Indians went into the comfort zone as suggested by Kumble, but in my opinion the missing element in this great side is the requirement of a genuine fast bowler. So many tried RP, Ishant, Shrisanth and non of them in the side? Come on Indians, Dhoni has a great side, losing one tournament is not end of cricket? I am sure they will bounce back well.

Posted by rustin on (May 13, 2010, 9:43 GMT)

No Ojha, Ishant Sharma, Uthappa, Munaf Patel(who is a pretty accurate bowler mind you), Amit Mishra. Best 15??? It was the 15 which fit into Dhoni's faulty tactics. He has to accept that. He made tactical blunders(even after getting the team he wanted). There never was any intensity visible in the players. Of course they will say otherwise. More importantly, we need complete players: Check out Australia's side they have players who can handle all attacks. Now in our team: Raina can't play short(be it fast or slow). Yuvraj can't play spin comportably. Yusuf can't see a ball pitched more than 4 yards away from him. These players can't improvise(paddle shots etc). Jadeja can't clear the ropes. The only complete player which India had in this tour was Rohit Sharma and to a lesser extent Dinesh Karthik. Both of them weren't played often enough. What annoy's me the most is our delusional media who actually thought that India could be labelled as "favourites". Blame it on poor memory.

Posted by sachinfan1 on (May 13, 2010, 9:23 GMT)

India need a quality bastmens like sachin and dravid and sehwag.India had to selected dravid. They had to learn from last years debacle.

Posted by Adityo_Gaine on (May 13, 2010, 9:15 GMT)

Its time India start looking at "condition specialists" instead of "format specialists". Other than legends like Sachin, Sourav and Dravid, who have exhibited their flair in all the 3 formats, most cricketers are tagged as "Test specialists", "ODI specialists" and "T20 specialists". Yusuf Pathan & Robin Utthappa are T20 specialists while the likes of Laxman are almost automatic choices for the Test team. Seldom have selectors gone beyond this classification and looked at "condition specialists", e.g. cricketers suited for the seaming English conditions, or the ones suited for the bouncy Australian/ West Indies pitches, or maybe subcontinent specialists. 2-3 condition specialists per squad would do no harm. Remember how Debashish Mohanty troubled batsmen in English conditions but was not so useful elsewhere. Lets also not forget how Ganguly troubled the Pakistani cricketers with his seam bowling in Toronto. Lets begin by looking at cricketers who are specialists in handling short stuff

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 8:45 GMT)

this is too much cant blame dhoni his team didnt play well . I thought only raina prepared for short balls and he was the only one playing well . We missed sehwag badly . Cant blame srikanth for this the tam didnt play well thats all . We need uthappa and irfan pathan back . Murali vijay can play test matches but not t20s . Gambhir should be playing ranji for a while and so should yuvraj . We still hold a very good team only bouncers are our problems . We need one very fast bowler

Posted by CricFan810 on (May 13, 2010, 8:27 GMT)

It is very disappointing that when a team like India loses and give these shameful excuses. I mean what are they trying to say, they are ranked number 1 test team, but they cannot play 'short pitched' deliveries.Who are they trying to fool? The world? the enraged indian fans? or themselves? They were simply over confident about themselves. Look almost every star cricketer is doing commercials and behaving like a model. I mean its fine to do these things but cricket should always be your first priority.

Posted by asthomas911 on (May 13, 2010, 8:18 GMT)

Here is something all the cricket fans could do 'BAN ALL THE PRODUCTS ENDORSED BY DHONI' Bottom Line! He would start giving more importance to Cricket again instead of night parties LOL

Posted by sunil_assudani on (May 13, 2010, 7:51 GMT)

One thing we must credit dhoni with. He has mastered art of answering the press. He is real cool answering any type of questions although it doesn't go well with the fans. Just listen to the excuses he gave yesterday. Awesome .

Posted by BapiDas on (May 13, 2010, 7:48 GMT)

Bouncy wickets have never been in use in India yet the Indian squad handled the short pitched deliveries in South Africa. International players also took part in the IPL and they have performed in the W T20 so I do not see what is going on! Clearly the Indians did not learn from their outings to the Caribbeans and they were NOT THINKING! After all cricket is played in the minds and the players must think all the time to be able to play smart cricket. The coach has a huge role to play in achieving this and so does the captain.

Posted by Chelsea2010 on (May 13, 2010, 7:23 GMT)

Andrew - problem here is not so much with the IPL or too much cricket, it is simply the talent and skill required to play short bowling, to have the intensity and desire to win, to field well, to run well between wickets and to bowl consistent line & length. unfortunately time and again we have faltered on the above mentioned aspects. I seriously laugh when our cricketers try to match Australia because Aussies are far far ahead in terms of talent and their attitude. Most aussies played in the IPL and attended parties but they are performing like they always do.

I seriously believe that meaningless series against SL, Zim should be cancelled & more emphasis should be given on our younger players touring Australia, SA to play in their domestic leagues to bolster their techniques and learn how to prepare for games which I believe is the most critical part of cricket

As far as WC is concerned, hope our people don't have too much expectations 'cause there dreams will be shattered :(

Posted by AnyoneButVettel on (May 13, 2010, 7:19 GMT)

218 comments at the time of writing mine ;)

My 2 cents: Let's just get on with it. So what if we lost? There will always be more tournaments to come.

Posted by Rosco87 on (May 13, 2010, 7:06 GMT)

I reckon India went in with the wrong team. It should have been based on current form, and what better way to see the players form than in the IPL. I would've picked.

1. Murali Vijay 2. Gautam Gambhir 3. Suresh Raina 4. Rohit Sharma 5. Robin Uthappa 6. MS Dhoni 7. Yusuf Pathan 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. Irfan Pathan 10. Praveen Kumar 11. Zaheer Khan

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

As expected! Team india dosnt look like a team but grup of Individuals wit diverse intrst! Many r takg der plac in team 4 granded! Yuvraj is closing his 30's but still plays like 18 yr old rokie! Likes Dravid, Dada nd Sachin was at peak of thier game at his age! And Mr.Dhoni thinks dat his team should be under his control, right thinking, but in a wrong way! Tactical blunders, he has 7 batsman nd still wanted 2 bat second! Sending Yosuf wen Malinga was bowling! Raina hit 1 six nd then 3 dot balls! M.Vijay as a replacement 4 Sehwag! ha ha ha! R.Jadeja last year he helped India wit de bat dis time wit bowl! but 4 losing! India Admin. should realy look in 4 bowling talents in India! Irfan Pathan nd Uthappa was omited witt not much justifications! Bouncers, Bouncers & again Bouncers! All is well!

Posted by GlobalCricketLover on (May 13, 2010, 6:47 GMT)

how can dhoni hide behind the excuse of IPL? doesn't he and the rest of the world know that even Eng, Aussie, SA players were at IPL?

Posted by Azeem-Shamsi on (May 13, 2010, 6:28 GMT)

This happened because of the negative attitude of Indian players, you guys thaught that only your team is the best and no one can beat you in cricket while reality is something else. try to learn from your mistakes....

Posted by Vijay_Patriot on (May 13, 2010, 6:24 GMT)

I love to see Pakistan into the Finals. India played badly and therefore they deserved to be back home...

Posted by BarackBush on (May 13, 2010, 6:08 GMT)

There are many reasons not one or two. Lack of players in team like tendulkar and sehwag who doesnt have problem facing short pitch balls. Lack of practice of fast short pitch balls facing. "This is enough" mentality. Some players are sure that even not in form , will get the team selection. eg. Yuvaraj,Jadeja, etc. BCCI have no guts to guide and prepare a team for victory. Negative body language and ego of some players...look at the way Yuvaraj, zaheer and Gambhir acted in the ground. Dhoni lacked the commanding power nowadays. Selection of team was not based on the quality but some one day wonder performance of some players like Murali Vijay, Vinay kumar. (Actually vinay kumar damaged the match against srilanka in the second last over by two full toss ball offered for sixer.) Finally all indians misinterpreted that this team can win the matches. But what we saw is the maximum can do this team.

Posted by __ram on (May 13, 2010, 6:01 GMT)

It is just a game. Why invest so much emotions? I never saw the match & happily slept! :-) I still think Dhoni is a fine captain. His faith in his players never paid off. It could be that there is a clear lack of ability (but the experts never seem to think so).

Why blame Srikanth when the players never performed to their abilities? Our batters seem to knock the socks off the opponents on their day but on a bad day submit meekly. We probably need people(batters & bowlers) who make their presence count on days when things are not going for them.

Posted by ronnie_cric_freak on (May 13, 2010, 5:48 GMT)

why doesn't DHONI stop giving diplomatic answers... and accept the fact that they are clearly not interested in playing in International T20 as they don't offer as much as IPL franchises... and hence their loyalties and priorities have changed.

Posted by ashy16in_ on (May 13, 2010, 5:42 GMT)

Dhoni is no doubt one of the best ODI batsman in the team. But his batting in T20s is mediocre. His innings against SL cost India the match. He seems to be in the ODI mode when he bats in T20s. He needs to change his approach and be more aggressive with the bat otherwise India is going to squander opportunities of posting a big score after a good platform laid by the top order.

Posted by gchan71 on (May 13, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

Another tournament, excuse of IPL remains the same. IPL is the bane of cricket. Its the case of the goose laying golden eggs being killed. Too much cricket will make the game boring and the cricketers disinterested.

Posted by drake1234 on (May 13, 2010, 5:30 GMT)

such lame excuses.... shows the gut feeling of a drenched skipper leading a lame side.....INDIA choked once again on big stage... our star batsman became bunnies again....and now blaming IPL party .rubbish.atleast Mr. Dhoni should have accepted the defeat and weakness of this indian side,not one worldclass batsman and bowler.just seniors carrying the flag.what will happen in future.mishap for indian cricket

Posted by itssachin on (May 13, 2010, 4:27 GMT)

The poor and shody performances put by our so called superstars are not surprising.. The main root cause for this is the IPL. The BCCI nees to ban the IPL ASAP. otherwise indian cricket will be gone for ever. and we will be ranked along side afgainstan/uae/holloand ver soon. For God sake BAN this nonsense IPL imeediately................

Posted by XIMONA on (May 13, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

DHONI IS JUST GIVING EXCUSES FOR HIS OWN FAILURE , HE REPEATED THE MISTAKE AGAINST WEST INDIES AFTER BEING THRASHED ROYALY BY AUSTRALIA. HE WAS BEING STUBBORN & HE DID IT AGAIN AGAINST LANKA & NOW WHEN ALL HIS TACTICS HAVE MADE HIM FALL FLAT ON HIS FACE , HE HAS CHARGED THE ISSUE WITH A IPL LATE NIGHT PARTIES.

with all his politcal correctness ONE DAY HE WILL BE THE CM OF JHARKAND , MAKE A NOTE OF THIS.

Posted by karguvel on (May 13, 2010, 4:11 GMT)

It shows no need for reputed and experienced players in t20 format.(Guys like Zaheer, Yuvi, Bhaaji, Gambhir didn't show any impressive performance) Its better to give chance to new young talented players in this format..at least in future..

Posted by Arjun_karat on (May 13, 2010, 4:06 GMT)

its not because of IPL india is not performing well,because all other countries have players who played in IPL,,take an eg of Angelo mathews,he played in IPL but didnt affect his performance against india,,,main probs is with team selection..even though we have young talented players...selectors are not seeing them........i appreciate the initiate taken by including N.ojha in team............

Posted by plmx on (May 13, 2010, 3:36 GMT)

Cricinfo states....." India's IPL stars have been exposed at the World Twenty20 again. Apart from technical shortcomings, it suggests a shocking lack of respect for the international game and its challenges". Is this really true or just a polite way of saying that the cricketing giant India is just not good enough at T20 at the international level. "Lack of respect" is a strange way to describe lack of ability!!

Posted by ebbie-qld on (May 13, 2010, 3:27 GMT)

The reason India failed again is many fold - Wrong selections, indifferent form, poor on field decisions and lastly no depth of players in its ranks. In the 1980's, Australian administrators saw the coming problems with great players retiring and set up cricket acadamies, poured money into grassroots cricket and the domestic competition. Yes,the rise of WSC and Kerry Packer helped, but a lot of money went back into development and not just the coffers of Cricket Australia to spend in decandant business dealings. This has allowed Australian cricket to establish it as consistently best team in the world. Yes , it will go up and down at times , but it has been up the top in all forms since the mid 90's. Maybe if the BCCI puts a lot more money into the development of grass roots cricket, instead of money making schemes, it may have a lot better team , who perform well all the time.

Posted by wicketman on (May 13, 2010, 3:03 GMT)

Yes, we can blame the coach, IPL and the administration. Look at the plight of Ishant Sharma. A few years ago in Australia, he was clocked once at 152k. Coaching staff wanted him to be the new 'Glenn McGrath'; cut down pace, concentrate on line and length. It didn't work and still hasn't. The IPL is a cash cow for movie stars, businessmen and current and over the hill foreign players whom offer nothing in terms of harnessing young indian talent. The few good players that are unearthed didn't make the side - e.g. SS Tiwary, R. Ashwin, T. Suman. Also, where was Robin Uthappa? He was part of the inaugural winning team and much better than Yousuf Pathan or Ravindra Jadeja. For India to be taken seriously as an allround competent cricketing unit, pitches have to change, genuine pace bowlers have to be encouraged to bowl FAST.

Posted by ruester on (May 13, 2010, 2:59 GMT)

Anyone watching the IPl this season will of seen the terrible standard of bowling throughout the tournament, with a few notable exceptions. World Twenty20 has shown a real step up in class to all those that played in the IPl. i am not surprised the Indian batsmen have struggled and their bowlers have gone round the park. Cricket what ever the number of overs should not be played on slow dead wickets. Class players should be able to play a bouncer, some of the indian batsmen should play birmingham league on lively pitches, then they would soon learn how to play a rising ball.

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 1:40 GMT)

@ Deenesh, India are far from "perfect" as a cricketing nation. Their record in the last couple of years has been skewed with a home bias. Yes they beat Australia @ home, but it was a team undergoing massive reconstruction, yes they drew Sth Africa 1all but why was it only a 2 - test series? They have beaten up on Sri Lanka & Bangladesh as well but not really high quality. They are no 1. in Test cricket by default, and I don't think they are worthy of being the 2nd best ODI team, they got thrahed on home soil by a 3rd string Australia, the WI played better against Aus than India did. In saying all this I do believe India are currently the best Test team in the world but I would like to see them put their record on the line in Sth Africa, Australia & England before they are true champions of Test Cricket. Only 2 Nations have claimed that in the last 50 years, WI 1980-95, & Australia 2000-05,(Aust were the best for longer than that but they kept stuff'n up in India.India do not compare!

Posted by Narsimhaa on (May 13, 2010, 0:42 GMT)

India is always india. No one knows when they are going to play good cricket and at the same time how badly they play.

Posted by cricsavvy on (May 13, 2010, 0:28 GMT)

Hi, The ICC should think hard. Why have T20 World cup every two years when the cricket calendar is already well packed? Cricket buffs like me definitely have not and will not show interest if this continous. Too much will be boring. Eventually it will be meaningless. Have T20 WC once in 4 years as the 50 over WC.

Posted by Gizza on (May 13, 2010, 0:24 GMT)

Australia in all types of cricket have been the best team for a long time because of their pitches. They have mixed pitches. Flat/batting (Adelaide), bouncy (Perth) swing (Brisbane), seam (Melbourne) and spinning (Sydney) pitches. Not just for India but if EVERY OTHER country mix their pitches they will all improve a lot.

Posted by Jaggadaaku on (May 13, 2010, 0:17 GMT)

Yes MS. Dhoni, If the country's main sports is the cricket, and all the fans and many many people hail the cricketers, spend their money towards the products, which cricketers selling on the TV, spending the money to watch their matches, they could expecting their team could win or at-least go to the next level as semi-final round. If country's main sports is cricket, people cannot see their cricket team showing this poor performance like minnows. If country's main sports is cricket, and their cricket team is on one of the Top 3 position in all formats of cricket-Test, ODI, T20, people cannot allow their team showing this kind of poorer performance. Dhoni, you said you had country's top 15 players in your team, then why no one could play like they could play in the IPL? Well, stop excuses about the loss. There is no one in your team who can qualify to play in T20 format except Suresh Raina. Yuvraj is in his career's poorest form but found a place in the team. Thanks Dhoni........

Posted by   on (May 13, 2010, 0:07 GMT)

Indian Team Losing does not matter but what matters is that they fight with their Heart till the Last Ball of the Match but there Body Language was not Good at all during the World Cup and the Team was not good either they seriously need real fast bowlers like Shaun Tait and Dirk Nannes or they can forget about their Dream to be the best team in all Formats of Cricket.

Haroon

Posted by CricketkaFunda on (May 13, 2010, 0:00 GMT)

Where is Harsha Bhogle now? He almost took responsibility to popularize IPL through his columns. There were so much talk about young players rubbing shoulders with international ones and bla bla just to promote IPL. This kind of talent you get out of circus named IPL.

Posted by anlv on (May 12, 2010, 23:47 GMT)

Please dont say its a "Team" india. its a Team less india Indians should learn from Pakistan cricket team. See how they were bounce back in this tournament. Better Dhoni resigns from his captaincy for T20 format because he is not getting rest for his body due to heavy schedule. even they did not follow basics while playing. There many things to write as indian.

Posted by svrfremont on (May 12, 2010, 23:41 GMT)

Guys leave IPL alone. David Warner, Shane Watson, Dirk Nannes, Shaun Tait everyone of these names played IPL. Do any of these figure in the discussions now? No... So why IPL in the context of losers. Right from the getgo this Indian team was a losing proposition. Bowling when wins the toss says a lot; vs Aus and vs WI we bowled first.

We have to go back being very very agressive like in T20 WC 2007. But I also think we have big expectations. I have watched this game for 40 yrs. and I would say one things: lots of big before the tournament and lamenting after.

Take this from someone who has seen this game for 40 yrs: Indian will not win another ODI WC and another T20 WC. 1983 and 2007 were just years for us to pass down to our generations. Savor those world CUPs.

Posted by ShahzanHaiderBukhari on (May 12, 2010, 23:35 GMT)

India has always been somewhat impressive on its soil. It surrenders to its rivals on foreign pitches, the reason is obvious they are the heroes of their dead pitches.But ironically Sri Lanka and Pakistan have thrashed them on their own soil as well which seems astonishing.They come under pressure soon when facing Pakistan.India is disappointed today not only on its defeat being thrown away from the T20 World Cup but mostly because Pakistan is there in the semi final.

Posted by aarpee2 on (May 12, 2010, 23:08 GMT)

Our best and most realistic chance in the Super8 was against the weak WI. We did not bother to learn from our bashing by the Aussies.Same 11 was selected,we chose to chase having won the toss.Ironically ,Jadeja was preferred over Yuvi the best bowler against the Aussies who did not even turn his left armers vs WI ?.Costly lapse by MSD. Bhajji going wicketless when the other Off-spinners, Swann,Nthan McCullum,Botha and Ajmal [even part timers Gayle+Hussey]always performed providing breakthroughs that made a difference to the team. Better and consistent performers in the IPL namely Rayudu,S.Tiwary,P Ojha,N Ojha,A Mishra ,R Ashwin and T Suman to name a few may have made a difference as VinayKumar showed.

Posted by rushikeshamin on (May 12, 2010, 22:58 GMT)

Dhoni- But we don't have bowlers who consistently at 145-50 kph and most of wickets in India don't have that kind of bounce

Can BCCI not affort one of the bowling machine? This sounds like a ridiculous excuse.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 22:52 GMT)

I disagree, India don't have bouncy pitches. they do play on bouncy pitches in domestic and they do make bouncy tracks but, just for domestic. hen teams like Aus or SA visit India, they make slow tracks. They should be brave and face them on fast and bouncy pitches, then they can learn playing bouncers. In domestic cricket, they can't learn this. Also South Asian fast bowlers suppose to bowl better then Aus, SA or English bowler on bouncy pitches. When they work hard on bouncy pictches, they suppose to be more effective on fast pitches. Thanx...

Posted by DocBindra on (May 12, 2010, 22:25 GMT)

Who cares about the fast food version of cricket? Didn't watch a minute for it and frankly didn't care...this is garbage devoid of any technique or class. Did anyone care about this till a jailbait like Allen Sanford came along?

Posted by christoprabhu on (May 12, 2010, 21:24 GMT)

First of all in india it should ban IPL.second there should be another team for T20 ,Youngters should be given oppurtunity. players like naman ohja,uttapa,rayudu,tiwari,praygan ohja,trivedi,etc should be in the team and the senior players should play Test match and one day internationals .this is the only way to sustain indian victory in all form of cricket.

Posted by EasterncafeXI on (May 12, 2010, 21:00 GMT)

I am from Pakistan. It's not good for Indian Cricket but it's 20-20 any thing can happan look at Pakistan the are in the sami- I still think India have played bater cricket then Pakistan. But the planing was no way near in the Indian team. What was Yousuf doing in the dugout when India was 90/1 in 10 over he must be come in next but dhoni come him self and we all know that he is a batter batsman then Yousuf but yousuf was in the team only coz of his Hitting Power, and this not the 1st time the have messed up the batting lineup in evrey game the batting order change. One More thing I think that Blaming IPL is not the right way now as it is done and money has come to the account. Like many Aussi Mr. Dhoni and Co. will do the same and did Clark, Andresn, Jonson ect.

Posted by Rajesh. on (May 12, 2010, 20:20 GMT)

Extreme reactions from people from various quarters......................... be it in victory or in defeat, doesn't help anyone !!

Posted by svinodmenon on (May 12, 2010, 19:03 GMT)

Everyone is praising Harbajan for his economical bowling. How many wickets did he pick ?. People tell Uthappa was not picked so only india struggled. Uthappa shaould have picked in replacement of Yusf not in behalf of Vijay. Vijay is a debutant he did fail as opener. But his partner Gambir should take the responsibility for his failure because of poor show and cant put too much pressure on a debutant. Pathan borthers need rest at home. They are not allrounders they are the killers for the indian team. Jadeja is good enough it was his bad luck and lack of experience. He will learn quickly i hope so. India should pick specialist T20 Mfb. Moreover india ranked no 8 in T20.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 19:03 GMT)

the same old story repeats and it will go on repeating unless there is some serious thinking on selection issues. why the hell wont anyone select Irfan Pathan? he is better and more useful than any player in the t20 format. he cud have opened and scored more than vijay for sure. he cud have bowled with a better economy rate than jadeja and fielded better than nehra. there is some politics in keeping him away form the team.gosh not even selected in top 30 hahaha thats a joke and Indian team will always pay.

Posted by milanrobby on (May 12, 2010, 18:45 GMT)

DHONI S**ks siimply. There is too much good things said about Dhoni for free.Last year I hated him for the way he played against England in the super Eights.He scored at the strike rate of 125 at the end hitting only 2 fours.This year also he promoted himself up the order for devils knows why ahead of YUVRAJ,PATHAN and Rohit Sharma.So that he can again score at s/r of 120 and at the end not out.Had be been a clever traitor for India he would have done exactly the way the did in the match against Sri Lanka. Pathan was never given a chance to bat properly in the whole series.Rohit was sitting with pads up in the dugout after playing brilliantly against Australia.I am from Ranchi and I hate Dhoni for doing what he did in the last two T20 world cups.He will never be the my favourite player.

Posted by Srujan_Kumar on (May 12, 2010, 18:34 GMT)

@Dylan Dpc, I can understand your frustration but am amazed at seeing your lack of cricketing knowledge. No person who has some level of cricketing knowledge would call Rohit's innings of 79* as fluke. In fact he is the only batsman who could score a 50 in FIVE matches Australia has played in this tournament. The next highest scores are 41 and 33 and rest of them all below 30.

His innings exuded great class and supreme talent that Rohit is made up of.

Finally, Rohit sharma was indeed not out as evidenced by the video replays. It is really unfortunate that you say he is hunting for "exuses".

Grow up dude!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by DavidWarner on (May 12, 2010, 18:24 GMT)

Bring back Kapil Dev, Mohinder Amarnath, G.R. Vishwanath and Sandip Patil.They were the only ones from India, ever, who could play genuine fast bowling without running home crying to Mommy.

Posted by amitjoshi01 on (May 12, 2010, 18:19 GMT)

When Dhoni(i am horribly annoyed with) received the IPL trophy, he was asked which win does he cherish more? The 2007 World T-20 or the current IPL trophy that his team has won? He simply said the IPL trophy....can you imagine? but its true..and what can we expect from a team who are at their lowest at morals...all of them should be sacked from the indian team..lets build a new team with boys who play for their country and not for money!!

Posted by happyguy24 on (May 12, 2010, 18:15 GMT)

Well, overall disappointed at Team India performance at T20 WC. However, winning and losing is part of the game.

I contribute this pathetic performance on two things.

1) Players are making huge amount of money thorugh various avenues and BCCI needs to put a cap on their endorsements etc. It has turned out to be more money and less game 2) The selection committee needs to have someone who can apply their brain and think for the country. Not picking P.Ojah, Irfan and Uttapah was a very bad decision.

Posted by mani2001 on (May 12, 2010, 18:10 GMT)

i think instead of trying to find the reason of defeat, India should try to learn a thing or two from Pakistan....how their players fight hard and how much heart they put into their efforts to win the game.Besides IPL is proving to be just a money pit joke for indian cricket. The least they can do is being less bias and next time invite all the Pakistani players into IPl to learn from them and do better in next world cup. Anyways now that Indian team is out of the game, lets gather our energies and support the true champion of the world PAKISTAN all the way.

Posted by nasersid on (May 12, 2010, 18:08 GMT)

Simple analysis for the root cause is ordinary bowling talent India posses over many years. Besides Harbhajan, Zaheer and Irfan when he was bowling 140's speed not one is found in the clong vicinity. Though they have good batting talent but their adaptability to bouncy and pacy tracks sucks. Besides Tendulkar and a couple others like Dravid hardly have stats equally good both in home and abroad. Biggest change India need is in attitude where cricket is percieved as batsmen's game not a bowler's game. I was shocked to hear comments from a renowned cricketer Gavaskar stating in commentary that its a batsmen game not a bowler's game. Until this mindset is changed India will struggle in tournaments abroad. I'd like to change a few ground pitches to bowler friendly to give Indian batsmen good practice. Teams like Pakistan and Australia have been able to defend small targets on many occasions where Team India almost always needs a huge target to defend and even then unsuccessful at times.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 18:05 GMT)

Yuvraj has been a dissapointment this whole season. Be it IPL or World T20's. Dhoni too has not shown courage as a batsmen. His job in the match against Lanka should have been to put Indian Score past 180's. But he failed to do so. Same goes for Yusuf.. And on the balling dept leaving Bhajji and Nehra no odr bowler showed the determination..

Posted by mars2009 on (May 12, 2010, 18:05 GMT)

This IPL issue is just another excuse to justify defeat. Had this WC T20 been played on dead tracks, team India would have been played like champions.

Posted by Venkat-Ric on (May 12, 2010, 17:49 GMT)

Hi friends and disappointed Indians, let us fight for IPL ban. That is the only solution to save our Pride and make the players responsible.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 17:38 GMT)

this is India without Sehwag

Posted by mugarmuch on (May 12, 2010, 17:32 GMT)

All the Team India lover's, wake up and smell the truth, throwing money and trying to minuplate the world cricket and forcing the IPL to the throats of world cricket does not bring any success. We know that India got the money but does not mean India can do what ever they want too. India has a bowling MRF accaamy with Dennis Lilly there and still can't produce a fast bowler and have no fast, boucy pitches i wonder why. India have ignored the basics of a word class team, other countries also played in IPL so I don't get this being tired crap........It's all about planning and execuation and being focused, team India was not interested in WT20 because there is no money here, they made enough in IPL. BCCI and Lalit Modi should be sent to jail for killing the Indian cricket.

Posted by romit006 on (May 12, 2010, 17:08 GMT)

Mr. MSD....I am a great fan of yours...but in the recent past I have been disaapointed by your captaincy and comments. Jus one suggestion ...why dnt you set the example by skippin the IPL auctions next year to prepare for the next big ICC event- the 50 over world cup!!!

Posted by blue_rock_00 on (May 12, 2010, 16:54 GMT)

All being said, I would like to suggest to the Team management that Indian training camps should be organised on bouncy pitches in Aussie, SA or Eng atleast once a year rather than chennai, banglore and such other places where all the Indian cricketers have been playing for so many years... This would give them ample time to practice and refine their skills without much pressure..( specially for younger talents ).. BCCI has all the money in the world to do it.. so that shouldn't be a problem either..

Posted by atif1977 on (May 12, 2010, 16:50 GMT)

And biggest of all is Pakistan qualified yet again......In all fairness its even though since India did beat Pakistan in the Azlan Shah hockey tournament.

Posted by sj94402 on (May 12, 2010, 16:46 GMT)

BCCI is the richest cricketing body. With the money that BCCI has it can easily create an indoor climate controlled facility with multiple playing tacks. This is easily doable by having everything controlled by computers. The facility could have multiple pitches (with soil from various continents) and temperature and winds that can be flipped with a touch of button. They do this all the time in US where the stadium changes from ICE hockey, basket ball to arena. These could be programmed to create a condition that they will face in various venues. It does cost some money but that's peanuts for BCCI. And every player needs to train in those facilities before they embark on an international assignment. Bowling machines can bowl short balls, heck you can pay some up and coming fast bowlers from other parts of the world to come and bounce us.

BCCI needs to think what it needs to do. They have the means but will they do it?

Posted by Pesu on (May 12, 2010, 16:27 GMT)

Everything because Mr Dhoni, he is not matured enough to be a good captain. His is useless in decision making. Winning tosses and put the opposition in to bat for few times, specially against Australia was a disaster. Clarke was happy with Dhoni's decision because the teams bat first on that pitch won all games. What the hell Dhoni have on his mind. Utter stupidness was shown by Young Indian Captain. Selecting out of form Yuvaraj was another blow, its damn sure that he was supported by the captain. Captain has to be a leader and should lead the team to win instead of giving much importance for his likes. INDIA LOST EVERYTHING INCLUDING IT'S DIGNITY BECAUSE OF DHONI, THE BEST DECISION TO PUT HIM AS A PLAYER INSTEAD OF CAPTAIN IN THE FUTURE.

Posted by VijayVK on (May 12, 2010, 16:26 GMT)

We cannot blame IPL for this. Core players in every team played in IPL and still they performed / performing. Last year we are thrown out of because of bouncers and we had 12 months of time but we never praticed playing bouncers. And dhonie is clearly seen running out of ideas. Its time to drop him for T20

Posted by asok286 on (May 12, 2010, 16:18 GMT)

God. Stop blamming the Players/Coach/Selectors we should only Blame BCCI. They should have a policy that if you not performing then should be in the team. Look at Yuvaraj/ Jadeja - How many chances are these guys link to BCCI?? And other thing IPL. How many matches- NonStop. Guys these players need rest, Mental Relif look @ Aussies learn from them.. And some one said Uthappa should be selected, even if he's selected if he'd done nothing.C'mon this is not a subcontinental Pitch.1st all reduce the Subcontient Pitch and start touring. or BCCI should convert few picthes as Bouncing wicket not like Kotla.BCCI should spend money wisely not just on Parties...

Posted by Vetti_hokie on (May 12, 2010, 16:18 GMT)

Why arent anybody talking about improving the pitches in INDIA !!!! Why cant more pitches be bouncier like the pitches in Bangalore and Chennai !!!

Posted by junaidawan on (May 12, 2010, 16:15 GMT)

SIMPLY ONE LINE TO SAY 'INDIA WAS MISSING SACHIN'

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 16:07 GMT)

hahahaha...im loving it:D

Posted by Anil_Koshy on (May 12, 2010, 16:05 GMT)

The selectors should stop giving chances to mediocre players like Yousuf Pathan & Ravindra Jadeja. Pathan has hardly performed in any international matches, he may be good at IPL but he has hardly scored more than 15 in any international match being it one day or 20-20.

Posted by Saichandm on (May 12, 2010, 16:03 GMT)

Hope Indian fans remember this debacle for a long time. I think it is the expectations that hurt us most. It doesn't take us much to call India the best team in the world, does it? One win against some big nation like AUS ,SA we start feeling we are world beaters.

Bottom line... Unless the domestic structure is improved, the pitches made more livelier we will not see any considerable improvement. May be they will do well in bits and pieces but nothing's going to change in the long run.

Posted by S.N.Singh on (May 12, 2010, 16:03 GMT)

The administration of BCCI including Dhoni must be blamed for what is happening with this Indian Team. They are so disappointed on all occations. Bfore they "win" they have to score in 20/20- 250 runs. In 50 overs 350 runs and in test cricket 600 runs. There is no confident in their Bowling. In this semi-final they Sri- Lanka had to make 51 runs in 24 balls and they make it with all their recognize batsmen out of the game. Anyway "partying" the night before playing is dangerous for cricketers. This should be stopped by the BCCI and other cricketing body. Especially India where All Philosophy and religon was originated. They should set and example. Especially these young cricketers. BCCI should set a side a Special Grant for looking for "Fast and good bowlers from the country area, hard working people. I think the Coach should be from India and not people that have less cricketing ability than a certificate in coaching ? S.N.Singh USA

Posted by fanofteamindia on (May 12, 2010, 16:01 GMT)

I don't think it is the short ball was the reason.It is being over hyped.It was the bowling,fielding and unbalanced composition did India in.I don think you can chase 180s and 170s outside India and Pakistan even if fuller balls are bowled.If Indians don't know to play short balls, so what?Some other teams don't have a clue how to play spin.As for the team combination, i think the best possible squad was sent.Uthappa was not in the scheme of things when the provincial squad was announced and no one raised questions then and also vijay was not in bad form either.Also we don have a real quick bowler out of 1 billion people.So,what can the selectors do?They cannot act in hindsight.Also i have not seen any other country people talk so bad about their own team.I don't know why people worry about a tournament which ICC itself doesn't care about.A team can play only a maximum of 7 T20s a year and a so called world cup is played within 10 months in the format...ha ha ha

Posted by ARad on (May 12, 2010, 15:59 GMT)

I think people are being a bit harsh on Vijay although I can understand why some would have preferred Uthappa. Vijay is a regular opener so he was a like for like replacement for Viru and he has also been in good form in the IPL so it is not exactly a selection that is out of place. Unfortunately, Vijay hasn't played to his potential but I hope he will use this as a learning experience. This also shows that the quality of Cricket at the International level is not the same as IPL (even if we don't consider the pitch factors). BCCI should encourage the curators to prepare a few bouncy pitches so that Indian batsmen could play consistently better outside India. It would also help develop good, attacking fast bowlers for India and Indian batsmen like Vijay won't look like fish out of the water in the early stages of their career.

Posted by Rajesh1971 on (May 12, 2010, 15:57 GMT)

Indians r not good chasers and without veeru that become more pathetic. we should have batted first in first 2 super 8 matches . in the first edition that we won we batted first every time we won the toss. definitely there was media reports " west indian wickets have lost their pace and they are now slowish wickets" . Too much poor quality spin bowling cost us they tried to prevent flow of runs and to take wickets but failed in both. Stuwart broad ,who has been hit for 6 sixes in an over by yuvi is doing well in this edition. take a leaf from him

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:57 GMT)

Its a usual post mortem after another icc event exit for India. The truth of the matter is India dont have a good pace attack. Just go through the economy rates of zaheer khan, ashish nehra, shreesanth, rp singh, irfan pathan, ishant sharma and praveen kumar. They bowl at a pace of around 120-130 kmph which is easy pickings for the opposition batsman. Also the fitness issues with many of the players especially bowlers have been awful.Former england player dermot reeve rightly said that upcoming youngsters in India concentrate on how the front foot should be , the use of the crease, head position,arm position etc thereby neglecting the fitness aspect of the game which players from england, australia,south africa newzealand dont encounter much. Fielding and running between the wickets is extremely essential. India have to address these basic problems orwise the no 1 raning will go and the absymal performance in the icc events will continue.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:55 GMT)

At least the cricketers won't get any richer this time. There should be some balancing act. Remember the bonanza announced by BCCI when they first won the cup two years back. Add to it the IPL windfall. Where these people are heading? Money, money and only money. These Indian cricketers play for money and are the rich as a King compared to their contemporaries. Even the Aussies or for that matter English are not getting such a huge amount. This is not to say that India should lose. Our players should play for the country in the right spirit, rather than filling their coffer. We can't claim that we are number one, unless we show consistency over a period of time. No point bashing at the selectors. They are only selecting from the available pool. Calls for X, Y or Z to be reinstated hardly solves the problem. These guys have already been given a chance and were futile to say the least. Don't worry we would still win subcontinent tournaments.

Posted by rickyconny on (May 12, 2010, 15:50 GMT)

when finish shrikant selection panel period and when coming new selection commetty

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:47 GMT)

hmm surely The team India dont deserve a semifinal spot n they have proved it with their arrogance.....dhoni should better believe in his strengths rather in his fate..

Posted by farhan_a_m on (May 12, 2010, 15:43 GMT)

Wow!!! What a comment dont blame Dhoni for what happened and praise him as a geniius when India wins. How sarcastic can people get!!. I would say we should criticise the captain as much as we praise them. Coming to the T20 WC itself what a pathetic (PATHETIC) display from our best 15 (atleast thats what Dhoni says) just a week after 45 days of charged display of the youngest version of cricket. Think about what changed in a week its only the conditions. You still have the same cricketers with the same willow in their hands barring the conditions and what amazes me(if not all) is how performances can be impacted with change in conditions. Which means only one thing that quality is missing here in some of the folks because as long as you have quality you will perform anywhere and thats what has gone out with this format. We are pusing too many people too high in very tough conditions and they are come up as jokers.

Posted by TwitterJitter on (May 12, 2010, 15:36 GMT)

For all the bitter complaints and whinging about the team by Indian fans tell me one time that India went into the tournament given some chance and won it. The only times they have won is it in 2007 and 1983 and both times they were completely written off and were just expected to make a token presence. So stop whinging and accept that we have a mediocre team like for ever. The problem is that we have too many players who have mediocre and are unwilling to take the next step into excellence. Excellence comes with a vision from the board, a strategy to execute that vision by having centres of excellence (I would recommend atleast 4). Evey player in top 100 is expected to spend atleast a month at one of those centers working just on fielding and another month on his batting or bowling. There should be a rigorous program to get players from being just average or good to excellent. Unless you institutionalize excellence, we will depend on 1 or 2 good players and a whole bunch of average.

Posted by rairatank on (May 12, 2010, 15:25 GMT)

Ooff It happehen again.Whom to blame other than Kris and person who were selecting playing eleven and Dhoni's captaincy. Past is over lets have a look on team going to Zimbabwe. Total 15 players, includes 4 batsman, 2 wicket keepers, 3 allrounder(in india now a day allrounder means you neither can bat nor can bowl), 4 medium pacers and 3 spinners and if we add two allrounder as spinner means 5 spinners on Zimbabwe tour, what a team combination. That means four batsman will be sure of playing eleven and Karthik ( a player whose name is written first on team sheet, thanks Kris nad he doesn't need rest) will play as opener and these five players will play all the matches regardless of performance, good job Kris and co. Where is Irfan, only allrounder available in India? Where is Utthappa who should have been in WI? Is Ishant's carreer is over? Where is Sudip Tyagi a few bad over in IPL means bye-bye. Thinks again 4 batsmans & 5 spinners to Zimbabwe sounds a big joke wait for next joke.

Posted by rairatank on (May 12, 2010, 15:25 GMT)

Ooff It happehen again.Whom to blame other than Kris and person who were selecting playing eleven and Dhoni's captaincy. Past is over lets have a look on team going to Zimbabwe. Total 15 players, includes 4 batsman, 2 wicket keepers, 3 allrounder(in india now a day allrounder means you neither can bat nor can bowl), 4 medium pacers and 3 spinners and if we add two allrounder as spinner means 5 spinners on Zimbabwe tour, what a team combination. That means four batsman will be sure of playing eleven and Karthik ( a player whose name is written first on team sheet, thanks Kris nad he doesn't need rest) will play as opener and these five players will play all the matches regardless of performance, good job Kris and co. Where is Irfan, only allrounder available in India? Where is Utthappa who should have been in WI? Is Ishant's carreer is over? Where is Sudip Tyagi a few bad over in IPL means bye-bye. Thinks again 4 batsmans & 5 spinners to Zimbabwe sounds a big joke wait for next joke.

Posted by Nilikasammy on (May 12, 2010, 15:22 GMT)

Excuses... Excuses!!! Give the Indian Cricketers to appear in more commercials. Thats what they're good at. When it comes to big international events, they have usually flopped, and its been proved time and again. Just goes on to prove what and utterly rubbish and pampered lot they are. And I'd say IPL has some blame to take, more efforts were put in the tournament and its preparations. How long did the Indian team have to prepare for this tournament? Almost a year, and how long did they practice as a unit and work on their weaknesses??? Many questions to be answered. Money shouldn't ride the game, unfortunately thats what is happening.

Posted by IGL2010 on (May 12, 2010, 15:15 GMT)

Why dont u go play IPL among all indian players and feel happy that an Indian team won and feel like you conquered the world. bunch of individuals no concept of team work.

Posted by sili on (May 12, 2010, 15:15 GMT)

It is really really disappointing.. losing the tournament is acceptable.. but it was like a show of formality.. i didnt see any enthu on most of the players face (esp on Yuvi.. Gambhir.. ).. then ofcourse this is a very bad selection.. Uthappa and Pathan should have been taken... taking MVijay on the team shows Kris's selfish.... Dhoni is a most successful captain for India.. he has more confident on the youngstersss.. he gave Jadeja more opportunities.. but Jadeja is not up to take it.. he has to pay for it..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 15:12 GMT)

Thank God...atleast the world can see better cricket sans IPL stars. frankly i think this indian team dnt have passion for playing cricket..for India of course!!! there wil be a lot of criticisms and the grave will be digged out. a loss dnt go well with anybody but the manner in which u lose says a lot. look at our captain cool he can device strategies for an IPL final but not for ICC world cup. imagine a team going with 3 specialist bowlers in a match.. no team should expect miracles like that... still believe that a team which dont have quality batters, bowlers and genuine allrounders (not Y Pathan, Jadeja, Raina) can expect to win a world cup... Any level of cricket, u choose a TEAM not individuals. Bravo selectors for such a team with blunders.. u shld have have looked at Yuvraj, he seemed 2 have forgot 2 laugh..attitude matters big boys.. ur on international level playing for a country called INDIA not IPL franchisees..Not 2 mention Mr.shrikanth is ruining Team with a big laugh...

Posted by prasadv1 on (May 12, 2010, 15:01 GMT)

Let' see: (1) Cant groom players. (2) Can't select the right in-form players, many selected on some imaginary reputation built somewhere in the distant past (3) Cant handle seaming/bouncy tracks (4) Cant even take advantage of slower ones (our lead spinner did better on seaming/bouncy tracks) (5) Cant run through any side unless they self destruct and help us out (6) Cant bowl in the death (7) Cant field (8) Cant stay fit. (9) Cant handle pressure (10) Cant even post a huge total when you have 9 wickets in hand with 10 overs to go Have I missed anything? And we expect to win a WORLD CUP? Forget IPL..we have MUCH bigger problems than that.

Posted by S.N.Singh on (May 12, 2010, 14:59 GMT)

BCCi should be blame for the problrms affecting "INDIAN CRICKET." The Admin- istration of BCCI is a problem. There is nothing wrong with the wicket. It is something wrong with the players ? Zaharudin put it right, you can't "PARTY" all night a go and play cricket all night. You are not Rohan Kanhai or Sobers.They can handle anything.Being an Indian Team Drinking should be limited. They should set an example to the world for being the place where pholosihy and religon was created. why can't the BCCI control their players.TThe can handle anything. make it worst it is not the best team INDIA put out. The condition was there for all teams. If ypu can't play under those condition, ypu should not play cricket. Make this better, this is "LASHING BALL" and not the normal cricket

Posted by gerardpereira20 on (May 12, 2010, 14:55 GMT)

Take Shewag, Sachin, Dravid,Laxman Ganguly and Kumble out of the picture and you are left with a very ordinary team. Like the generation before them that had men like Gavasker, Vengsarker Amernath, Azar, Shastri, & Kapil these guy were fighters and merited respect. The Current generation of Rainas, Khoils, Sharmas and Yuvrajs of this world are paper tigers who have got fat on the rich pickings of the IPL and have no stomach for the fight when the going gets tough. Love them or hate them Just when everyone was writting Australia of they come up with gems like Watson, Warner and the rookie leg spinner Smith who show just what it means to them to represent Australia.

Posted by nanu2404 on (May 12, 2010, 14:55 GMT)

I know India can't do well in this WC. India lost the plot in the team selection. Why Jadeja was picked when he had to sit out the whole IPL? Yuvraj singh's poor form doesn't earn him a place in the team. The omission of Robin Uthappa, Manish Pandey or Nayman Ojha in the batting front and Amit Mishra, pragyan Ojha Irfan pathan cost us a lot. Tracks in the Caribbean have become skiddish in nature. So selecting praveen kumar was also baffling as he thrives on swinging conditions. Also the body langauge after losing each game was a surprise to me as no one felt bad for it except the supporters.

Posted by sugukumar.79 on (May 12, 2010, 14:48 GMT)

All are saying here about UTTAPA UTTAPPA UTTAPPA UTTAPPA.....first leave him....indian team lost because of two reasons TOSS and JADEJA selection in two super 8 matches....if india bat first without jadeja,india can win easily,,,then nobody here wouldnt speak about UTTAPPA...see the IPL 3 matches...UTTAPPA batting...he gave catch first when he scored single digit runs..so he played every match TWO or THREE wickets....if they picked uttappa catch early,no one here wouldnt speak about him....uttapa is better than jadeja and dinesh karthik....but dont say the reason indian team lost bcs of there was no uttappa....DHONI wrong decision india knocked out.......this is the only reason india lost....DHONI missused ROHTI SHARMA...even rohit plays well, dhoni didnt use rohit in st.lucia match....very WORST DHONI.....dhoni belives jadeja and yusuf....first he should unbelive about them........then only india win WORLD CUP 2011 50-50....

Posted by synergy on (May 12, 2010, 14:44 GMT)

Dhoni and company are nothing but over rated paper tigers who sacrificed India cricket. They are just interested in making money and IPL is the right place for them to do it not the International events. The money hungry lads of Indian cricket went to the West Indies to relax and have a good vacation after the strenous IPL 2010 season and that too at the expance of BCCI. BCCI is also a partner in this debaccle as they too are thickly involved in the maoney making circus that is IPL and do not care about the international events. I am afraid this is killing Indian cricket which is now turning to a money making business. The recent disclosures to the scams in IPL is an ample proof of what is happening to Indian cricket and that too right under the nose of BCCI.

Posted by Indus11 on (May 12, 2010, 14:38 GMT)

During the run up to the last IPL - the much heralded Twenty Twenty cricketing tournament staged in India - replete with Bollywood movie stars and endless all night parties - there was a particularly stinging slight for Pakistani players - none of whom were selected despite being the T20 World Champions.

I thought it instructive to look at Indian team's performance in the two T20 tournaments - last year at Lords in England, and this years in the West Indies. The following two sets of tables show that Pakistan achieved a place in semifinal on BOTH occasion - and went on to win the tournament last year.

India on the other hand conspicuously managed to achieve LAST place on BOTH occasions - with out winning a single point.

I recommend to Indian authorities, that next time around, for IPL 2010, they ignore Indian players completely and pick all the Pakistani players.,

Here are the tables:

Last Year

Teams

Mat

Won

Lost

Tied

N/R

Pts

Net RR

For

Against

Sri

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 14:37 GMT)

Dhoni knows how to speak well and smart. We need a captain who does his team do the talking on the field and not rather off it. Excuses won't matter winning matters. If not competent enough better send a second string team to ICC events. or rather send a team comprising senior and retired players. they might do better.

Posted by Blueangle on (May 12, 2010, 14:36 GMT)

Cricket is a team game and coordination/understanding among players is the key. Now if you look at the IPL, all these players are playing for different sides and since IPL format is much more lengthier than the T20 world cup,IPL teams get enough time to sort out right combinations . When it comes to T20 world cup, you cherry pick best individuals from here and there (from different IPL teams) and put them together in one team, they go to big event without any practice match(as a team) and you want them to win T20 world cup. Never gonna happen. This indian team is a bunch of very talented players but if you really want best from them in this format, let them play as unit for some time. Probably add another team (team India) in IPL, containing players likely to play at international level. keep on adding top performers from franchises in to this pool, let them play as team for some time and then throw them at international level.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 14:34 GMT)

The game of twenty twenty has much higher varience than one day and test games. In this format any of the top 8 teams can easy beat each other as appose to test cricket where some of the smaller nations (New Zealand, West Indies) and pakistan struggle to compete with Australia and India. With such a high varience you need a much larger sample size of games to determine how well teams are going and trying to break down their strengths and weekness. Blaming IPL and lack of training pre match for Indias average performance in super 8 (which only comprises of 3 games) is ridiculous.

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 14:32 GMT)

We Indians probably give more importance to numbers than the performance on the field (may be we are good at Maths). That sumps up why we see Aussies winning ICC events more than us. We are number 1 or number 2 but no use being there if we cannot compete ICC events.

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 14:31 GMT)

I don't think right now India can be called to have a quality youngster batsman barring probably Rohit / Raina. And these cannot be even compared to the likes of Sehwag or any senior player. Even Dhoni needs to rectify the way he bats. He looks good at crease only when he hits a six. Otherwise, seems he can hold to his position at the crease but really not a good T20 player. Groom those who have the technique for the game. YP seems like a gully cricketer. He does not even have the technique. Doe he even do practice?? I think India is going back the old ways of selecting players based on reputation than performance. I think if we make a team of Ganguly, Dravid, SRT, Kumble, Sehwag, Laxman, they would be enough to beat the hell out of this current Indian team. that sums up their quality. We Indians probably give more importance to numbers than the performance on the field (may be we are good at Maths). That sumps up why we see Aussies winning ICC events than us.

Posted by FooFoo on (May 12, 2010, 14:30 GMT)

I always believe that we are not a quality team. We should work in developing the quality pool rather overestimating and celebrating with the press for nothing.

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 14:29 GMT)

If they were not willing to play, then there's only one solution. Select a different team to play in T20 and ODIs. Additionally, make sure those who play more than certain number of matches in IPL will not be considered for Team selection. Or else there should be stricter code of conduct. BCCI needs to look into this soon. Otherwise it will be not long before Indian Cricket is demolished at the hands of IPL. The days when India produced Sehwag, SRT, Dravid, Ganguly, Laxmans will be a folklore for ever. I cannot agree with Dhoni that IPL is grooming youngsters. In fact it is helping foreign players identify weakness of Indian players. Also, techiqnuely they are getting worse.

Also, Dhoni cannot give lame excuses. More than the potential, winning matters, playing for pride, and passion matters. Mark my words, India will do a first round exit in next year's WC 2011 if they continue playing like this.

Posted by FooFoo on (May 12, 2010, 14:27 GMT)

It may be little hard to digest, but i always felt that we (India) are not a quality team like Australia, even though we beaten them and claim to be in par with them by our media and some of our friends. We may have the base skill to start with to become a great team but still a long way keeping in mind the bowlers and batmen we have in the quality pool. Definetly i'm not talking this view only becuase of this defeat. We should work a long term solution to improve the sheer quality in bowling, batting, fielding and strategy rather celebrating ourselves for nothing and overestimating ourselves. Probably everyone knows this..

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 14:26 GMT)

If India top 15 keeps performing like this, there is no way Indian cricket is looking good for the future. Both Pakistan and SL have qualified for the semis twice in two years. What this shows is that quality of Indian cricket is going down the drain. Players are more interested to play for the money spinning league than for the country. I wan unable to understand some of Dhoni's decisions. Being stubborn is not gonna help in future for any team he might lead. Also Gambhir Yuvi and YP are becoming more of a liability than an asset to the team. Raina cannot face short balls. On docile pitches he might score. But on bouncy ones, he cannot play like the way he can do and get away in IPL. All in all to sum it up it was disgusting. India looked jaded, out of sorts, clueless clowns and morons on the field. If they were tired, why did the selectors send a so called top team. They could have sent a second string team. At least we would not have had any expectations.

Posted by Seaking_alpha on (May 12, 2010, 14:24 GMT)

Its all easy to say that India should have selected this player instead of that player etc, but this is all in hindsight. The reasons for India's poor performances in International tournaments in the last few years are obvious to everybody and very well used by opponents. India's new generation of batsmen are not very good against fast bowling - short or not. This problem will be solved only by experience because there is no dearth of talent in the side. Blindly chopping and changing players because they did not play well in this tournament will only deny them this opportunity to get better. Spot good, hungry, talented batsmen and guide them to learn batting in these situations. Seniors like Tendulkar, Dravid and Kirstin have a role to play here. This is a better, long-term solution

Posted by Blueangle on (May 12, 2010, 14:21 GMT)

Cricket is a team game and coordination/understanding among players is the key. Now if you look at the IPL, all these players are playing for different sides and since IPL format is much more lengthier than the T20 world cup,IPL teams get enough time to sort out right combinations . When it comes to T20 world cup, you cherry pick best individuals from here and there (from different IPL teams) and put them together in one team, they go to big event without any practice match(as a team) and you want them to win T20 world cup. Never gonna happen. This indian team is a bunch of very talented players but if you really want best from them in this format, let them play as unit for some time. Probably add another team (team India) in IPL, containing players likely to play at international level. keep on adding top performers from franchises in to this pool, let them play as team for some time and then throw them at international level.

Posted by anupam_4986 on (May 12, 2010, 14:19 GMT)

Nice one @dylan Dpc really well put....

Posted by Mark00 on (May 12, 2010, 14:18 GMT)

Dhoni has reinforced what I've been saying all along.

The restrictions on bouncers in ODIs and Tests resulted in numerous ODI and Test players with inflated averages.

Unlike in 20/20, where you cannot afford to duck or leave a bouncer, a mediocre player can easily do so in tests and ODIs while accumulating lots of runs with little more than discipline and a heavy bat.

In that sense, 20/20 is a much more authentic cricket experience than modern day ODIs or Tests with all their artificial pro-mediocrity rule changes. 20/20 is, now, the only form of cricket that allows fast bowlers to be fast bowlers.

Posted by baasad on (May 12, 2010, 14:17 GMT)

No one can lead Indian team better than M S Dhoni. The problem of India Team is not short balls. Former Indian Captain Ganguly was also not a good batsman of bouncers but on several occasion he played key role as an opening batsman. Current Indian team need someone like M. Azheruddin, the man with great fighting spirit.

Posted by cric_follower on (May 12, 2010, 14:17 GMT)

Success has gone to the head of too mnay players and that is the reason for underperformance. The selection of spinners in the 15 was bizzare. Ojha, Mishra and Ashwin were miles ahead of Chawla and Jadeja and were not considered. Why was Saurabh Tiwary not considered ahead of Pathan, Uvraj and Vijay? It is important to get players who are in form into the team. It was the bowling and not the batting which took us down eventually. No batsmen, and not just Indians, are comfortable against accurate short pitched bowling at 140+Ks...

Posted by pshishir on (May 12, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

All thanks to Lalit Modi and his company to make cricket "Glamorous Business" rather than to excel team India in the sport. Now that the Indian players know that they get big bucks by playing in the league...who cares for playing for "India".

I will rather give the players an option...choose IPL or INDIA. No international player should be allowed to play in the league if he's in the squad for a major international tournament like "World twenty20". We needed viru at the top but misse him due to the injury sustained during IPL. How can one put the league before the country.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:57 GMT)

Hmm.. I watch almost all CRICKET matches humanely possible for last 25+ years. What should I say...

Hmmm.. yeah, Anand Topalov website shows the 12 games and their moves nice.. Then we had great food yesterday at the Mexican restaurant here in Silver Spring, MD. Then... I woke up at 5.45 am today...

Wow! There are so many nice things to discuss.. One board, owned by corrupt officials and politicians, richest in the world, no taxes, no other body(ICL) can host anything that would improve sporting people's lives, no coverage of any other sport in this fashion other than cricket for last 20 years - that's why hockey sunk deep... What else...?

Are we not ashamed?

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:52 GMT)

... lol ... lol .... lol .... lol

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:49 GMT)

Please dont not bring IPL, Lots of Australians and SL played IPL but they are not affected...

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

I am happy that India is failing in T20 as I hate this form of cricket. I love Test and ODI... I pray god, India should always loose T20 and help good cricket to survive

Posted by ajayr91 on (May 12, 2010, 13:47 GMT)

First of all, wrong choice of selection. INDIA doesn't have quality deadly bowlers. If you take SA (Steyn, Morkel), if you take AUS (Tait, Nannes), if you take WESTINDIES (SAMMY, ROACH), NZ (BOND,MILLS), ENG (Broad,Sidebottom or Anderson), PAK (Aamer,Razzak), SRI LANKA (Malinga, Perera).........BUT INDIA LACKS THE quality of bowling....NEHRA lost his from since the 2003 world cup and he is not as deadly as before hence he gives out too many runs.... ZAHEER is a fit for nothing bowler..always giving out too many wides and no balls and in the end doesn't take any wickets.....Vinay kumar was alright but still needs practicing...Praveen was alright still his wicket taking abioity should improve. Jadeja is the worst pick in the team which is followed by Zaheer and Vijay...Even Gambir was not in form...he couldn't even run between wickets in the first 5 overs.ONLY KD Karthik was in form and he too got out early....If this is the future of indian national team,then we indian fans are DOOMED.

Posted by 23ab on (May 12, 2010, 13:45 GMT)

India have now lost continuosly 6 matches in a row in super8's... The problem is not fatigue ,the problem is overconfidence... During last time dhoni said next time we will win....Selection is really worse to the core.. Hats off to Mr.srikanth.. Taking zaheer in a twenty twenty tournament is wrong..Zaheer flopped during last world cup and this world cup also... Srikanth should have selected srisanth ,irfan pathan,ojha...Last time india took a weak batting side,this time bowling side doesnt have twenty twenty specialists at all.. India must learn put yorkers during death bowling...Srikanth u did select a awesome team man ,plz continue to select same kind of players ,so next year india will be knocked out again in the early stages of the tournament..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:44 GMT)

Mr. Kris Srikanth & Dhoni, "I can score more than 23 off 19 balls on anyday and against any team..Can you make me Indian Captain?"

LOL

Posted by turabjohnson on (May 12, 2010, 13:42 GMT)

buddy, not all is as bad as it looks. if india would have clicked in the last game, everything would have been allright. just don't blast this out of proportion, after all cricket is just a game. P.S there is still the soccer world cup to look forward to. I hope brazil wins.

Posted by satyasainvs on (May 12, 2010, 13:34 GMT)

Really very much upset for each individual Indian cricket fan for ordinary show in T20 world cup. Our sleepless nights gone vain. By seeing both the world cups performance clearly shown no aggressiveness and team spirit in the field. Especially our main strike bowler paper king spinner Bajji had wicketless for the whole tournment. If we count least sixers scored by our hard hitters only. Every team has scored Dozen sixers in each match against us. That is our best spinning attach. all sixers went like hitting rubber ball. Finally all teams knocked us with great punches. Atleast BCCI now should wake up and prepare well for upcoming ODI worldcup. Indian fans won't tolerate anymore excuses for losses. Selectors also should look forward for fresh legs instead of keep giving chances for traditional and old legs. Please only give chances whether old or new guys if they perform consistently. And Indian field has to improve a lot. Don't forget fielding should be each teams sixth bowler.

Posted by radnus4u on (May 12, 2010, 13:33 GMT)

Why Blame IPL? The blame should be totally on selectors and the selection policy of India. Why Piyush Chawla was there cos he is from central zone, a push by central zone selector. Why Vijay & Karthik cos Srikanth is a cheif selector. Selectors should take a blame for this Disaster. They lack courage and now Dhoni also is not bold enough to take on selectors. Why Select vinaykuymar if a captain is not having confidence, Why select only 4 seam bowlers in WI. Mr.Srikanth Please standup and explain what were you doing during IPL. You are an ambassador of CSK, u selected 4 guys from CSK. Finally India should abolish the zonal policies and go for selection on merit.

Posted by iamsean on (May 12, 2010, 13:26 GMT)

Well..India again had a dismal performance at the World Cup..it was all a mix of Selection blunders, tactical mistakes and shockingly under performane by some of the key players...Dhoni can't be blamed for everything...I am almost surprised at Jadeja being selected continously in the Indian team, Robin Uthappa's not being selected and even more shockingly Uthappa has not being given a place in the Indian team touring Zimbabve and not even in the India A teams tour of England, Piyush Chawla being selected when u have people like Ojha, Mishra & Ahswin performing well in the Ranji season and the IPL, Yusuf Pathan failing continously however still being picked and shocking his younger brother not being selected even after performing consistently for the past many years and the IPL....i think he can handle spin and fast bowling much better than his brother.....Well all said & done I still support Dhoni and his men for future endeavours and wish them all the best....

Posted by Taimoordilsher on (May 12, 2010, 13:23 GMT)

Well take a look at the schedule of the Indian Team for the last two months prior to the World Cup (2009 & 2010). Players have taken a lot of toll beacuse of IPL seasons prior to the events. They were tired and not fully fit, to go by the injuries to some of the key players (Sehwag & yuvraj).

Posted by tg1966 on (May 12, 2010, 13:20 GMT)

Blame it on IPL. During IPL every individual player were fighting each other on a different mind set and within a space of 5 days all these players are regrouped into one team. Hence the IPL hangover has affected our players. Their body language speaks. Except for one or two individuals rest of them were playing for formality. Strict policies should be enforced for IPL like giving preference to new players and seniors should be limited to 2 players per team and allow to play only few matches in a year when playing for the country. Hope BCCI realises that money spoils the GAME!!

Posted by ratedstfu44 on (May 12, 2010, 13:17 GMT)

India should search new captain, Play MS as wicket keeper batsman. thats all

Posted by tmartis on (May 12, 2010, 13:14 GMT)

For years now India have been the most wanted team. By this I mean most teams and individual players all have their best performances against India. As a fan this is hard to take as it happens more often than not. Thus far I have been content to blame a bowling unit that by comparison to India's passion for cricket has done us no justice in a very long time. Admittedly I don't understand how hard it is for India to produce 3 good quicks when Pakistan seems not to have much trouble doing so. Also our batting perhaps is the most formidable on paper, but need I remind the Indian team this is not a game played on paper. Our struggle with the short ball is legendary and has been the same for generations now. My only hope is that they do something about it so I and the rest of India won't have to sit and watch our team ducking in all the 50 over games in the WC 2011. This T20WC was a pain to watch.

Posted by SKR_ on (May 12, 2010, 13:06 GMT)

Blaming IPL, too much cricket are just excuses. the fact is that most of the players are out of touch and to a certain extent cudnot cope with the short ball at 140 + speed. our bowling is weak and most of the times our bowlers are out of ideas. still cant find our bowlers bowling yorkers with consistency or the slower balls judiciously. wonder someone has ever told harbhajan that he is more effective when he gives more flight than speed. whatz Gary Kirsten's role if he hasn't discuused these things with the players.. if he has done so and the players are not listening , then aslo he is equally ineffective.. we need atleast two bowlers who can consistently bowl at 140 +. why players like IShant, Sreesanth, RP singh, Irfan pathan, Robin uthappa, Sarabh tiwary etc not in the team to Zim. (NOT THAT they are great players) . Are they not good even in the second string??

Posted by eyaniv on (May 12, 2010, 13:06 GMT)

It's amazing that India went into the T20 without having players in form - Dhoni -injured, Yuvraj - not in form, Yusuf other than the 1 display was average, Gambhir was poor and Jadeja:non-existent. Did we miss out on Uthappa, SS Tiwary, R Ashwin & M Kartik? Vinay didn't play till it was too late. It's also fine to assume that the IPL shouldn't really affect players as Dhoni often says but the fact is the body does take a hit with continuous travel & partying. Srikkanth will have to take corrective action quickly. The WC is looming & we have to build a side to win. We don't seem to have a winning side in either T20 or ODIs. Test cricket will be even more shaky everytime Sehwag misses out & when and if Dravid/Tendulkar retire. The bench strength in all 3 forms is not very strong. Planning for the future is essential and one has to be methodical about it. I hope the BCCI can get of their political witch hunt & focus on cricket &the selectors can leave regional politics by the wayside!

Posted by thepacer on (May 12, 2010, 13:06 GMT)

Great comments from everyone. I agree that putting together the right playing eleven is the key for success. For some reason the Indian selectors cannot walk away from paper statistics and pick players based on their form and suitability to the conditions. Dhoni is the best captain India has had in a long time. But he too seems to err when it comes to choosing the right eleven. Players like Gambhir and Yuvraj can still take things for granted. Resting them for a few games will ensure they remain sharp and eager to do well with the chances they are given.

Posted by Hilaljavaid on (May 12, 2010, 13:03 GMT)

Dhoni blamming IPL night parties for the debacle is infact a confession that how non- serious cricket like IPL can destroy the carrers of budding players and the future of cricket. If india wants to attain glory then it must restructure its format and keep away "THE SUTTAE BAAZ" (speculators) of Mumbai and South Africa. It is high time BCCI hold an independent inquiry in the affairs of IPL and promogate the findings. From the recent report it appears only Lalit Modi is being made scape goat to cover up the misdeeds of Mr Gavaskar and comapny. The role of this company must be scrutinized. India has a number of well reputated and honest judges to conduct such inquiry. If the decision is defered then indian cricket in couple of years will be in jeopardy. India may never reproduce Sachin and Dravid.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 13:01 GMT)

M.S.Dhoni needs to take a step back and really think of what has caused this defeat. Above all what comes to my mind is the poor body language that our players have displayed during the tournament. It just appeared that there were least interested in the last Sri lanka match.They had a fair chance even then. Teams like Australia do not give up when all chips are down. I have seen them fight to the end. This is international cricket and not gully cricket. It is Ok to be lured by the money IPL pays these players and some of them honestly don;t deserve it. Even the match they played agaonst Australia was a shame. They know that net run rate will come into play, what is the point of going and throwing your bat out when you know you have no chance of winning. Sanity should prevail and players need to think of team's interest and not personal interests. There is a lot to learn from here and hope Dhoni and his team don;t forget this too quickly on the long flight back home.

Posted by anil80 on (May 12, 2010, 13:01 GMT)

warner attacking opener watson allrounder+attacking opener clarke parttime spinner haddin d hussey parttime spinner white m hussey SPD Smith spinner MG Johnson pacer SW Tait pacer DP Nannes pacer

vijay supposed to be technically gud opener gambhir stable opener raina partime spinner yuvi partime spinner dhoni rohit partime spinner yusuf partime spinner jadeja partime spinner but doesnt know to bowl bhajji supposed to be spinner but bowls medium pace zaheer medium pacer nehra medium pacer

The difference is quite evident and the results are infront of us :)

Posted by vishwa_a on (May 12, 2010, 12:58 GMT)

Dhoni is the key culprit! Whenever India is in good position, he comes for batting by promoting himself. When India struggles, he sends someone else to battle out and live in pressure! What do you call it? Smart selfish behavior! Yesterday's match between India-Sri Lanka was a perfect launch pad from someone like Rohit Sharma to come down at number 4. But, no... Dhoni promoted himself!

Posted by Arjun_karat on (May 12, 2010, 12:56 GMT)

i didnt understand the attitude taken by the srikanth in selecting players, actually i'll support dhoni except for his statement that the current team playing in WI is the best 15 memeber squad that we'll get in India,wat abt Uthappa and I.pathan,, I.pathan is far better Y.pathan,,Irfan can bowl for india during crucial overs,,and he is a gud hitter too,,uthappa and irfan is again avoided for the team in Zimbabwe...actually we must sack srikanth,he is backinng CSK players

Posted by rishiabhitri on (May 12, 2010, 12:48 GMT)

(contd.)for India was nothing but desperate. What's happening man? It seems like Yuvraj needs an axe from the team, just like Sehwag got before his outstanding comeback, for redemption(and also spending time in the gym to tuck in his tummy). His timing that once left bowlers sweating and fielders wondering( T20 WC 2007 remember) is gone. His fielding gives us Indian fans so much pain. Where's that old Yuvraj of ours?:( Yusuf Pathan...wow..."He shall fire"...when sir?..its been too much of a time...I am waiting to hear :"He's fired"...either ways accepted... :D Jadeja- poor lad. Amazing short pitch stuff at 90 mph to Watson....Ohh sorry 90 kph...Did he really forget he was that slow? He's done himself enough favours to be shown the way by the selectors... Leaving all this aside, where are India's Dirk Nannes', Lasith Mallingas and Dale Steyns...Oh God give us a bowler please....One who could create some kind of a fear in the opposition atleast!!

Posted by Gujubhai on (May 12, 2010, 12:47 GMT)

Players with big egos and nothing to back it!! When will the jokers at BCCI understand that they are letting the vast indian supporter base down and we only have a very limited patience. We want players who will give their heart and soul to play for India not some two bit wannabes flirting with bollywood actresses and running away from bouncers!!Shape up or leave it to someone else who is more capable.

Posted by Kurapati on (May 12, 2010, 12:43 GMT)

I don't know what to say, Dhoni is one of those captains who got head weight with TEAM INDIA performing well in recent past but now guess what, this guy deserve to be punished. Had too much over confidence and never admit what's wrong with the team. He was saying in the presentation ceremony that SL really bowled well to contain India for 73 in last 10, everybody knows that you retard..tell what's wrong with your side performance. I don't know what is Yusuf pathan doing in T20 team. The 3 changes made for the match with SL would have been done Vs WI. I am not surprised whether captain doesn't know anything how to build XI. Blame only Dhoni and not anybody. Karthik is much better option than nil intnl exp Vijay. He does nothing for the team for 4 matches. I was totally upset as all other core fans but what even more hurts is the way Dhoni expresses, at the end of the day if you are outplayed, we cant do anything about it. Shame on you Dhoni, He deserves to get a strg warning from BCCI.

Posted by abhishekjain1356 on (May 12, 2010, 12:39 GMT)

I have seen worst captaincy from DHONI in world T20 2010. Why one should not blame Dhoni???.. If a team loose one match then may be a team effort is lacking, but loosing three on a row on such platform is definitely not acceptable and in such cases captains are always critised. There are various reasons. -- Why having so much faith on Ravindra Jadeja (good for nothing) on such tracks. -- Why not playing with full time bowlers and relying on the part timers. -- Why not using the past experience to select the team. -- Why they not practised for the Short Pitch Deliveries. In crucial match like yesterday between India and Srilanka, the worst player of the match was MS DHONI, 23 off 19 and dropping catches. If he has scored, result might be different. I don't expect the team will win every match, but currently they have lost their fighting skills. When you loose on such platform, then whole nation fans suffered. Play for the pride of the country 'INDIA', nothing else is above that.

Posted by sabirdinat on (May 12, 2010, 12:37 GMT)

India should win and qualify for semi as we were hoping best sides to come,but we forgot india is not as good as it shows..playing ipl is not only reason to win so...better luck next time..bye bye Dhoni...

Posted by ww113 on (May 12, 2010, 12:29 GMT)

Perplexing.This side is such a battle hardened lot.Can there be a tougher competition than the IPL ?

Posted by ushakiran on (May 12, 2010, 12:25 GMT)

if india lack of confidance. wht was dhoni and kirsten did. thy hve to pump confidance.

Posted by ranga on (May 12, 2010, 12:23 GMT)

It was a pathetic display by Dhoni and his boys. A team carries baggage to play whereas this time around baggages, Yuvraj etc.,were trying to play a game called cricket representing the country.

Posted by Garp on (May 12, 2010, 12:19 GMT)

The onething I didn't understand about the Indian Team selection was that there were several senior players who were in great form during the IPL but were ignored for this new breed of Indian players with no International experience and also most of them were in shaky at best form during the IPL. Playing domestic cricket is fine and dandy but whether the BCCI wants to reckognize it or not the step up to International level is one that most cannot make.

Posted by Dr.Unnikrishnan on (May 12, 2010, 12:17 GMT)

It is time India have produced a Kapil Deve or a Manoj Prabhakar (Prabhakar only for his cricketing abilities). BCCI with a swelling bank account, should've done more in India to produce quality allrounders and fast bowlers. Make pacy and bouncy pitches in India and encourage pace bowlers and batsmen who can play short balls confidently. Othewise face this kind of scenario after every major international tournaments outside India.

Posted by raajpappu on (May 12, 2010, 12:15 GMT)

Where was Viru for both the world cup disasters? Is it a coincidence or deliberate that he picks up this shoulder injury at the same time on both the ocassions?

Moreover the body language of the players, except a couple of them, for th entire duration of the games was pathetic to say the least. Specially Gambhir agst. SL, he just was not interested in running or grounding his bat. WHY?????????? Yuvraj is another culprit if you can say that who looked as if he does not belong there at all, most disinterested as you could see it from the facial expression, if one can read it or rather you do not need to be a face reader to tell his attitude.

Any way what has been done is done and there is not crying over spillt milk. The selectors must take the responsibility for this and make amends now at least.

Tail piece would be scrap IPL totally that is like a cancer spreading throught the world of cricket and one day it will finish off everything that remains of decent cricket game.

Posted by gannyboy on (May 12, 2010, 12:08 GMT)

India won the first world cup because at that time they had a settled bowling unit. You cannot expect to win a world cup with Zaheer and Nehra because they are not 20-20 bowlers n are liabilities on the field(they cant catch a bowl for Christ sake). If India need to win the next 20-20 championship they need to build a specialized 20-20 team like the Aussies.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 12:05 GMT)

Their performance proved that most of the Indian cricketers only play for money. If they had been paid crores for WCs, India would have been the World champions.

Posted by Capitalist_Cricketer on (May 12, 2010, 12:02 GMT)

The present team has the talent and the form but not the luck. You cannot explain why certain players can hit sices with ease in IPL while in the caribbean same delivery provides a single ? Yes the short ball is an issue but luck does play it part. Same way Pak dont deserve to be in semis but they do have that element of luck sometimes going their way. Happy to be proven wrong. Also its time for more youngsters like raina to come to the main stream. India has the pool thanks to IPL to have a all below 26 yr old team in 20-20.. surely this augurs well with test too right ? Anyways im a test man fan for life. Gimme fab 5 anyday.. Sachin, Veeru, Rahul, Saurav and VVS anytime anyday..

Posted by zak123kaif on (May 12, 2010, 11:59 GMT)

This is the reason why i hate Yuvraj Singh.He was the biggest disappointment in the 20-20 and his batting,fielding was extremely rubbish.He just plays for himself rather than playing for India and is always more intersted in impressing the film actresses.Robin Uthappa should have been picked definitely ahead of him.

Posted by rishiabhitri on (May 12, 2010, 11:58 GMT)

India was nothing but desperate. What's happening man? It seems like Yuvraj needs an axe from the team, just like Sehwag got before his outstanding comeback, for redemption(and also spending time in the gym to tuck in his tummy). His timing that once left bowlers sweating and fielders wondering( T20 WC 2007 remember) is gone. His fielding gives us Indian fans so much pain. Where's that old Yuvraj of ours?:( Yusuf Pathan...wow..."He shall fire"...when sir?..its been too much of a time...I am waiting to hear :"He's fired"...either ways accepted... :D Jadeja- poor lad. Amazing short pitch stuff at 90 mph to Watson....Ohh sorry 90 kph...Did he really forget he was that slow? He's done himself enough favours to be shown the way by the selectors... Leaving all this aside, where are India's Dirk Nannes', Lasith Mallingas and Dale Steyns...Oh God give us a bowler please....One who could create some kind of a fear in the opposition atleast!!

Posted by ashokprabhu on (May 12, 2010, 11:57 GMT)

This is the reason, why I hate Dhoni to be a captain.

He is good wicket keeper batsmen. Infact worlds best ever wicket keeper batsmen. But not as a captain.

He does not have a team (winning combination). He plays for himself.

Ganguly formed a team. On and off the field he constantly thought and formed a team of 11. Dhoni plays for fame and plays for himself. He picks and drops players at his will and not with a plan. He changes batting order to his will and not according to the strength of the batsmen.

:-) India lost and I am celebrating this defeat. I wish they lose the next ODI worldcup too.

Posted by rishiabhitri on (May 12, 2010, 11:55 GMT)

Though too many of us have been citing the short ball as the main reason behind India's ouster from this world cup, I really dont think so. Its just one of the problems. Dhoni, I don't think so deserves any criticism as a player. As a captain though his persistence with Jadeja and only 3 frontline bowlers for the two most important clashes of the tournament was unbelievable. But i'd not blame him again because these are the kind of decisions that when they have worked for Dhoni, we've hailed him for being a genius captain. What can he do with a team with so many flaws? Suresh Raina, by far India's best batsman of this tournament, shows what he needs to work at to be a force to reckon with on the world stage--tackling the short stuff. But i am not so sure about the others. They seem to have too many other problems. Gambhir's poor form continued right through.Interestingly enough his body language too in the last game was awry. He seemed too tired running at times when the situation for

Posted by gladiator401 on (May 12, 2010, 11:48 GMT)

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Posted by MBSIVA on (May 12, 2010, 11:47 GMT)

When I saw the score board reading 90/1 at the end of 10 overs, I felt India could reach 200 and take the game away from SL. What a disappointment. 73 runs in 10 overs. With so many wkts in hand, most other teams would have got 70 runs in 5 overs.

Wrong selection policy. On any day, I would prefer Irfan Pathan than his Yusuf Pathan. Similarly Ojha could have been selected ahead of Ojha and Utthapa instead of Vijay. Had these 3 been there, things could have been different. We cannot rewrite the past, but atleast for future selection, the wise men should use their brains than their heart

Take it from me, none of the fast bowlers on board to Zim tour, will make it to the Asia Cup. Suddenly you throw up a A team and ask them to play in Zim. It means the selectors have forgot that SL is also playing or they felt, anyway we are going to lose to SL in final, so why do it with senior players. We now have ready excuse, if we lose

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 11:37 GMT)

Nehra took wickets but gave too much away, Zaheer was bowling as if he just woke up, Vinay was quite good, Harbhajan couldn't be economical on a spin-track (though economical on bouncier ones.. suprising!!!).. Praveen must have shaken his groin too much in IPL after-party (or after-math), Piyush is still thinking of his KXIP failure and how he made it to the squad. Gambhir hasn't still woken up, Karthik is wondering why he was dropped, Yuvraj is wondering whether he is still injured or not, Raina looked good but lost his wicket at the primest time, Rohit is hunting for reasons that deny his wicket against WI and knock against Aussies a fluke, Vijay is writing that "inexperience can cost you a lot", Jadeja is still trying to figure out what he did "right" in the last 3 weeks, and whether he'll get a contract or no for next years' IPL.

Kris Srikant is wondering whether he'll get the boot or not while Dhoni is fighting with his sole whether IPL is to blame or not

Posted by kr_nagaraaj on (May 12, 2010, 11:29 GMT)

I expected this indian team to loose this badly even before they started to carribean. Few reasons for my predictions 1. All rounders in indian line up are part time spinners - what are they going to do in the pace & bouncy tracks? 2. Guys in out of form even in the IPL series are in the final selection list - Yuvi, Gambir, Jadeja, chawla 3. Vijay came in as a last minute replacement for viru? where is uthappa? 4. In the entire IPL, ranjiy trophy & duleep trophy matches, the selection team couldn't find even a single all rounder with fast bowling capabilities? Couldn't the BCCI for so many years, develop players with such talents? and they are funding the rest of the world to develop cricket in their regions, couldn't figure out the logic behind it..

Posted by nithouse on (May 12, 2010, 11:24 GMT)

The way India has played in this ICC Tournament is totally dissapointing and largely mainly becz the way dhoni is making excuseses and trying to defend his mates.No one except a few like raina and harbhajan had that metal to compete against the other teams.Really the whole bunch of indians looked like they are here for completing the formality.Its a fact that we indians always belive that our team is the best in the world but knows from inside that we are perhaps the poorest bowling and fielding unit nd a mediokar batting unit...Full blame to DHONI ND CO......Jaago India Jaagoooooo.....

Posted by cjscanada on (May 12, 2010, 11:20 GMT)

After reading some of the comments, I am appaled at the reaction of critics. Some of them even suggested Dravid, Sachin and Saurav. When we lost to Bangladesh, there were criticism of these same very players. Why are you so reactive. Look at the laurels the team has bought recently. Dhoni is a strong leader. Everyone has ups and downs. What was glaring was as someone suggested the team should have been picked on the basis of the playing surface. I felt Irfan and Uthappa, should have been in the team. That is in hindsight though. Who would have expected Jadeja and Murali to flop. Anyways they are good prospects for ODI and Tests. I hope they are persisted with the longer version. Though Raina played well, it was not on fast surfaces. I like the idea of picking up horses for the courses. By the way, I think the dangerous Pakistani's who were almost out of this tournament, could be the dark horse. Australia has had it good so far. Their openers cannot be expected to sustain for long.

Posted by robheinen on (May 12, 2010, 11:15 GMT)

It stands out a mile now. There's no use denying it anymore. Put all the blame on Lali....oops, sorry....Yuvraj. Fair's fair Lalit Modi couldn't help this one and for all the obvious reasons Yuvraj is second in the blame line

Posted by fahim9128 on (May 12, 2010, 11:14 GMT)

no one can blame dhoni. its all because of the team selection and the right person to be fired is sreekanth. its seems like he is having some hatred towards uthappa and irfan and always favouring TN and CSK players. if not, why he did not select utappa instead of vijay. irfan pathan could also have been selected because we have seen indian pace attack really strugling.moreover he can bat and win games for india as everyone has seen him do that against srilanka and many times in ipl. SREEKANTH IS RUINING INDIAN CRICKET.

Posted by TwitterJitter on (May 12, 2010, 11:07 GMT)

Geez... Blaming IPL (by commenters mostly) for their performance is just a stupid stupid excuse. Do you honestly beleive that if there was no IPL before this tournament their performance would be any better? Just follow last year's Champions Trophy for clues. There was no IPL before that. India's pace bowling is the probably ranked 7th of 8 test playing nations. Spin bowling has no teeth other than Harbhajan.Batting has obvious holes. Most of all attitude is sorely lacking as is evident on the field. The likes of Nehra, Gambhir, Amit Mishra lack application on the field. To be realistic India won only at times they were completely ignored like in 1983 WC and 2007 WC. Whenever, there was a scrutiny they withered in all areas. Blaming IPL is a convenient excuse. Let people not forget that players from other countries also played in IPL and apparently it only affects Indians.

Posted by prakashsuki on (May 12, 2010, 11:05 GMT)

It all started wrong with Shewag's injury and Sachin refused to come from retirement in T20s.........Both the batsman are brilliant players of short pitch stuff and will be valuable in WI....They are capable of taking on any bowler at any kind of pitch......Given Sachin's recent form he would have really helped India in Chasing 170's.....We trusted on youngsters and they failed once again lets bear with it.....

Posted by sunderravi on (May 12, 2010, 11:01 GMT)

However, for Dhoni there is a huge challenge on the horizon over the next nine months - preparing his team for a World Cup on home soil. Failure here will be hard to stomach for the billions of fans, but failure next year won't be tolerated. ----------- Everybody knows what will happen and the outcome "BCCI Players knocked out in first round only"

then you say we wanted spin pitches but they prepared bouncy pitches in India

Posted by sunderravi on (May 12, 2010, 10:59 GMT)

"I've had no setbacks because of the IPL but at the same time players need to be smart because IPL is not only about cricket," he said. "You have to respect your body and if you don't do that then IPL is draining. If you play late games and go to the parties and travel the next day it takes a toll. But if you take care of yourself 45 days of cricket shouldn't affect you because we play 200 or more in a year." ---------- Well said you didnt go to parties so as a captain you should have adviced them..... where were these type of comments while playing in IPL..... so your statement says dont go to party and you can play 200 matches in a year great...............................

Posted by AsherCA on (May 12, 2010, 10:57 GMT)

India's biggest problem - Ashish Nehra is 1 of only 4 regular bowlers Dhoni chose to pick where he required 5 bowlers. What is worse, only 1 of 2 fast bowlers at Barbados, in Fast bowler friendly conditions. He kept delivering boundary balls which helped the opposition batsmen to settle in & then, batter the part-timers who follow. What did Dhoni do - replace the part-timers since Nehra-assisted batsmen blew them out of the attack & retained Nehra all the time. If India's failure to qualify for the semi-final here results in the end of Nehra's cricketing career, I feel it would be a lesson well learned by the Indian selection committee. If not, India are condemned to many more Nehra-engineered defeats.

Let's not have any of the B**T about tired cricketers, Malinga, Sangakkarra, Nannes, Bollinger ... all played as much cricket & delivered in the WC..

If Zaheer & Nehra are unable to bowl 4 decent overs once in 3 days, they should simply retire.

Posted by kssrikanth on (May 12, 2010, 10:57 GMT)

The chief selector srikanth & co have to be resigned first.they should pick specialists for t20s like utthappa,pragyanohja ,ashwin, dinda,sidharth trivedi.these players should be given a chance to prove their mettle.

Posted by BeeArr on (May 12, 2010, 10:56 GMT)

Mr.Yashas Hosur... Where were you when the selectors kept on selecting Mohammad Kaif and Jaffer and all those weak links when Badri topped all domestic charts in test cricket. Where were you when Sadagoppan Ramesh was dropped after topscoring for india and never made another come back. How do you rate the death that smart batsman Vinod Kambli had at the hands of selectors. And what about your own sujith somasundar making Indian colors. Think about it. Selection has always been partial. When we play on flat tracks we forget the classy players. Vijay was no great but he did deserve his spot in the WC. But now he has to dumped. But why do you guys keep quiet when the axe falls on Badri, Rahane, Pujara, Tiwary and Pandey. Atleast now support real batsmen. Dont push a case for sloggers. Test cricket is the holy grail. Think about it. Now this slog and score. History repeats itself.

Posted by sunderravi on (May 12, 2010, 10:53 GMT)

"But we should also remember we are good players of spin. So we shouldn't be ashamed that we can't play short-pitched bowling. We have to play even against short balls but we can't be ducking and leaving all the time in Twenty20," Dhoni said. - BCCI wakeup - powerhouse make ICC recommendations that the opponents should have only spin bowlers then only we wil send our players

Posted by jayant_cricket on (May 12, 2010, 10:49 GMT)

some r say why to blame indian team in this rough time . but we couldnot ignore the fact that regionalism politics are hapeninig in bcci selection comitee headed by the man close to chenai super kings always prefer to player belongs to that team only. after 1st ipl M gony performance was not so good to be selected for the international side.after 2nd ipl sandeep tyagi ahose case was the same but being on of the highest wicket taker in other domestic tornament was also not impressive in front of international batsman.and after 3rd ipl m vijay who have played only 2 impressive innings 78 and 127 but if u see the inning carefully he put max runs of the indian bowlers and world know what is the ranking of indian bowlers in international arena.2 players who was always ignored DINESH KARTIK in 2nd IPL and UTHAPPA in 3rd ipl.it was amazing to see M vijay in probable 30 instead of uthappa before 3rd ipl. there is nothing new in team india after vengsarkar selection. VERY POOR

Posted by 1766fdk on (May 12, 2010, 10:45 GMT)

These are excuses made by dhoni on ipl indians players were not only players who play ipl, players from all nations were played ipl why srikant and dhoni always think for csk and tn players from 110 crore population bcci always fail to pick 11 good players for big events players like robin, sourav why they were not selected shame on u srikant the team of 2007 t20 cup was much better. If srikant have some shame he will have to put resign rather than making excuses and dhoni also.

Posted by raj20 on (May 12, 2010, 10:44 GMT)

Sorry to say but it was a real disappointing performance by the team. They had let down all Indian fans.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:43 GMT)

We lost the first two matches because of the highly ridiculous decision of Dhoni to bowl first, for a team carrying only three bowlers, and whose strength is in batting - it is a decision of a team low in confidence and afraid of facing top quality seam bowling including short pitched bowling. Champion teams need to believe in themselves, have confidence in their ability, and above all have a commitment for their team and country which has to include a strict regimen sans parties during, or in preparation for, major tournaments. What we continue to lack is professionalism and ruthlessness, of the type being currently exhibited by Australia, who were nowhere near the top in this form of the game till now. It was the same type of indifference performance which cost India in the 2007 World Cup and, unless there is a drastic change in attitude, will, I'm afraid, cost India in the 2011 World Cup too.

Posted by Mansoor97 on (May 12, 2010, 10:35 GMT)

I think its the law of retribution that is taking its tool on India, they have tried their level best to eliminate Pakistan out of IPL/T20 and world cup but eliminated themselves from the tournament.

Posted by JanabAli on (May 12, 2010, 10:29 GMT)

All These 15 indian palyers have played with lot of Heart in IPL bcuz the frenchise owners payed them lot before the w/cup tournament they are the Genuine contenders but in international level we saw that they are playing like groups they have to play well in 2011 w/c

Posted by nawwabsahab on (May 12, 2010, 10:18 GMT)

For God sake kick Yousuf pathan (seldom hitter: ipl only superstar) from team....ask yuvi to concentrate on batting or let him rest for atleast an year...search for some raw talent in fast bowling (instead of playing people of the age of bradman) and practice playing some lifting deliveries (you cant always play in gurgaon)...and then go abroad to play bowlers like nannes

Posted by crickethasbecomeboring on (May 12, 2010, 10:17 GMT)

Firstly, I would like to say that the team needs to have mental strength and have confidence.

Secondly,some commonsense.During the match against aussie. Watson thwarted short pitch stuff from indian spinners,yet there was no change in their line and length. R.Jadeja was given another over after being smashed for 3 sixes in one but praveen kumar was given only one over to bow after giving away just 3 runs in the match in qualifiers.This is ridiculous.

Thirdly, Dhoni and krish must understand that good performance in IPL does not mean you are in good form or you are an outstanding player.

Fourthly , where is R&D in sports in India,if it is there why is not so effective.?? Wy cant we have simulators or real time "PROPER" bowling machine??

Finally,Why cant BCCI prepare few "offline" bouncy pitches where our players can practice.??

We have all the resources in our Nation.But we dont use effectively. India is good but Indians are worst .Pls,Just dont blame players,blame the system

Posted by ushakiran on (May 12, 2010, 10:16 GMT)

this was the another flop show from india in icc tournments.many of said that when u hve best captain in t20 you have more chances to win.i also agreed that.i don't think so dhoni is good captain.he made wrong decisions in both 2 games in super8.and then we have been give chance to karthik.becoz he has good tour last yer wi.yousuf shuld have to bat at opener r 1st down.i think he didn't get more chances to prove himself as t20 specialist.if we had sehwag this was lot of difference in indian batting strength.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:14 GMT)

we cant blame Dhoni alone. In India the main problem is the selectors who do whatever they wants.. It was Srikanth decision to choose Murali Kartik for T20 world cup which proved wrong and the outform player Ravindra Jadeja who was the nightmare in super eight matches. I dont knw why the selectors did'nt picked players like Robin Uttapha, Virat Kohli, Saurabh Tiwari in the squad as they have done reasonably well then the other players in the IPL tournament.. Srikanth Man what u did..... i think u should quit the selection committee.

Posted by Raviss on (May 12, 2010, 10:14 GMT)

Really disappointing to read Dhoni's comments! I hav always admired his captaincy style and the way he speaks..but really surprised to c his stubbornness in his captaincy in attitude!! his stubborness to play R. Jadeja despite his woeful performance... n playing just 2 seamers on bouncy tracks.. n really pathetic the way the Rainas n Gambhirs played the short ball, as if they are novices and new to the cricket! n suprising to see Gambhir being such a prolific struggle against the short ball.. more than the technique, it was the attitude which was dissapointing..nobody was ready to show respect and learn except Rohit Sharma.. Dinesh Karthik is such a good player of the short ball but evn he was not played till da last match... India really dint deserve to be in the last 4! n its high time the authorities n players put India before IPL.. they looked tired and disinterested!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 10:13 GMT)

india can be good on hyper batting friendly indian pitches but not on pacey tracks,they don't have the strength in thier backs to play hook or pull against the genuine fast bowlers of australia and others.........

Posted by Kaushalya_Gurudeniya on (May 12, 2010, 10:05 GMT)

I Think India got few things wrong in the recent past.

First, they were over exposed by the IPL, what i mean is rest of the world got to know the strengths and the weaknesses of the Indians while the IPL. Foreign players were playing with Indians and they got to know the weaknesses of Indians. I think this is how this bodyline or bouncer/short ball stuff came out. It was used well against local players during the IPL. Young players like, Thiwary, Raydu, Murali Vijay, and even Ghambier were tested with the short ball and they failed to respond. I think this issue caused a major set back for Indian in this T20 WC.

Secondly, Inclusion of Yuvraj and replacing Vijay for Shewag. Yuvraj is out of form and out of sense during IPL so he must've been out of the team for few matches and Indian needs to replace someone with great skills for Shewag. Vijay is no match for Shewag.

Thirdly, Robin Uttapa, Mishra and Rayudu. They are performed really well in IPL and left out for this WC.

Posted by arunsethi on (May 12, 2010, 10:00 GMT)

Sack Shrikanth first. He is biased in his selection of only TN and CSK Players. He is simply ignoring high performers from other states/teams. I dont know what basis M Vijay became the replacement for Sehwag. Why Robin Uthappa, Saurav Tiwary, Manish Pandey, Amit Mishra, Pragyan Ojha, Irfan Pathan, I am sure there will be few more, never came to Shrikanth's mind. Jadeja, Pathan, Chawla, Vijay, Karthik, Yuvi, Ghambhir, they are IPL Heroes only. No value add, no sense of responsibility. There were few good players like Kaif, Pujara, Dhawan, India should seriously explore.

Posted by 8ankitj on (May 12, 2010, 9:53 GMT)

Doesn't look like the best 15 to me. Only two front line pace bowlers in 15 is a bad Idea even in Indian conditions, leave alone Caribbean.

Posted by SKMH on (May 12, 2010, 9:52 GMT)

I beleive india team is only fit for ads and IPL. they can surprise only in their home ground. butter u invite in ur home ground AUS,SL & WI as u lose all three. Best advice is try to manage Tendulkar to play T20 next year.hv a good day!!!

Posted by AbhishekAhuja on (May 12, 2010, 9:49 GMT)

They deserved this...its Srilanks vs Australia in final ans SL are gonna win this time...

Posted by AbhishekAhuja on (May 12, 2010, 9:45 GMT)

India is the only team out of the Super Eight teams to have not won a single match in Super-8 matches...Stop wasting your time on these players and also stop all the attention we give them..and they will be then back on track...

Posted by sashwin on (May 12, 2010, 9:35 GMT)

Test matches are interfering with IPL preparation, no problem, just ban Test cricket. ODIs are interfering with IPL, no problem just ban ODIs. International T20 is interfering with IPL, no problem just ban India from playing international cricket.

Make IPL the only official form of cricket, all other forms of cricket are illegal and punished with 10 years in jail. IPL is now GPL, Greedy Personal League. Our cricketers and BCCI don't have any pride in the nation, they are traitors and deserve to be treated as traitors.

It is a well known fact that most of our great cricketers dont know Indian national anthem, but know their IPL franchisee song very well. So sad to see Indian cricket dying, I hope all foreign players boycott IPL (except retired and useless ones) and teach BCCI a lesson.

Posted by spiritwithin on (May 12, 2010, 9:33 GMT)

@devilinnocen....indian fans r justified to b harsh on indian players,its da 2nd consecutive T20 WC where we failed to win a single super8 matches and were crashed out plus for da last two Championship trophy we were knocked out in the 1st round...as for pakistan ur cricket is in turmoil still ur country is doin better than india...and not to forget our 1st round exit in 2007 ODI WC...the fact is we dont expect india to win each and every global event but what we want is consistency..since 2003 there were eight global events(WC,T20 WC and champions trophy) in which india won one(T20 WC 2007) but were knocked out early in all da other events either in first round(champions trophy and ODI WC) or in super8 without a win(T20 WC),its not a consistency by any measure..we r just not good enough even in small tournaments(just three tournament victory in da last 10yrs )..

Posted by parth010791 on (May 12, 2010, 9:32 GMT)

Why doesnt Dhoni bat at 3? Hes probably Indias best t20 player, and hes wasted at number 7. He can take the singles and twos, but can also clear the boundary. Raina played well, but if hes at number 4 and dhoni at 3, their top order is much more stable.

Posted by KYZA on (May 12, 2010, 9:31 GMT)

I feel for India, I really do, in fact the way India folded in this tournament was funny to see, and to be honest it was a laugh, India and the BCCI really do believe that they run cricket, they own the ICC, the BCCI are always the big guns who run things and their team and players are the best, not this time, in fairness they should have lost the final against Pakistan in the first T20. India's real problems do lie with not being able to face fast and short pitch bowling, but I think thier problems lie with thier weak bowling attack, they have no match winners in thier bowling attack, the best best bowler in Harbhajan Singh, who on his own can't win them matches, a highlight of thier weak bowling is how they gavce away 6 sixes in 8 deliveries against Sri Lanka, they failed to take wickets anfd Nehra is a crap bowler who is only planing due to thier inabililty to find good pacers in India. Pakistan have made it to the final, won it, and now semi's again, we don't need IPL. Pak win

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 9:30 GMT)

i think ,this is the best time of indian cricket .i never see these type of strong batting line .but they are dissapointing to everyone.but i am clear why they are losing continously.they have dangerous batsman with remarkable strike rate but it does not work when amir,ajmal,vettori,swann,harbajon,jonson,steyn etc bowl.because they are also dangerous bowlers.if you hit for six ,you have a possibility for out. sachine,dravid,ganguly are needed who know what should do this time? india should to concentrate in home leage for discovery a good bowling attack.i think india has worst bowlling attack than bangladesh.

Posted by PTtheAxis on (May 12, 2010, 9:27 GMT)

its quite funny to see dhoni putting himself up the order only to clog up and be ashamed time after time. people like rohit who are in some degree of form ccan only watch from sidelines. commentators are busy labelling dhoni as a dangerman. dangerman for sure but not for the opposition team.

Posted by spinkingKK on (May 12, 2010, 9:26 GMT)

Uthappa should have been selected for the tournament. It was him who was the key for India's success in the first world cup. Anyway, the squad selection was wrong. Then, the team selection for each matches were absurd. Also, the decision to bowl every time they won the toss was inexplicable. I knew the moment India left to the carribean, they won't win. I was surprised that they overpowerd SA in their second game. I did expect them to beat the lowly Sri Lankans. They couldn't even do that. What a shame. Having said that, this T20 is a boring crazy game. Just move on!

Posted by kumar692 on (May 12, 2010, 9:24 GMT)

Another defeat in T20 Format ,Don't blame MSD for it.I think team really lacked self-confidence and more importantly lack of teamwork on the field. I felt that this T20 WC Squad didn't have much match winners at least in blowing department. Dhoni didn't show much confidence on his fast blowing line.we shouldn't forget that we won first inaugural T20 World Cup With Five genuine blowers and i don't why dhoni perfers part time blowers ? I think team which has balanced line-up will win this T20 World..Its Proven Fact...

Posted by A.Ak on (May 12, 2010, 9:18 GMT)

I think the reasons are, 1. Lack of patience, 2. Lack of experience, 3. Lack of confidence (because of 1 and 2), 4. Mentally very tired (I felt tired wtching t20 with in 2 weeks of IPL, these guys are playing for over 2 months).

Every team had their practice and preparing session before the tournament. But not for India. They dont know what to improve as atleat one of eight teams became a winner in IPL.

If the same team played ODI, they might end as a victorious side. Lets hope they play proper CRICKET from now on, I mean ODI and test at least until the the money cricket champoins league. Look at the other IPL players, they have enjoyed and learned from IPL and applying for their country.

Soon Indian cricket will be like English premier league football. They play high class football in the league, then all their star players play together for England and fail all the way as one team. Thats is nearly happening in Indian cricket. Thankfully only in t20 for now.

Posted by raj20 on (May 12, 2010, 9:16 GMT)

Well-Well... what should i say about this Indian team....They were not on right track from the moment when tournament started.Wrong selection of the team..i am very disappointed with the selection committee because they have the bigger responsibility then playing eleven. Although Team play on the ground that's why players have to face criticism but errors has made by selection panel.They should have selected Robin Uthappa, 20-20 specialist bowlers like R.P singh ,Irfan pathan and pragyan ojha in place of these gully cricket bowlers.And now turn to Indian playing eleven: They had let us down this time also with their poor performances. Captain alone should not be criticized because other 10 players has to perform on the field also. Dhoni can be criticized only for his poor decisions like after wining toss in matches putting opposition into batting. what is ravindra jadeja and yusuf pathan doing in this team ? does youraj singh know how to play cricket ? It was a disappointing show.

Posted by cricnar on (May 12, 2010, 9:11 GMT)

Dhoni has made india pay for his adamancy and selfishness. Firstly Dhoni may be a great talent but that is not an excuse for bot following common sense. There is not even a method to the madness.

when rohit is in supreme touch and took the mighty aussies to the cleaners, what was the need for him to come up the order. Ok may be he wanted to accelerate. But what did he do. He spoilt the momentum of the innings by struggling to get back his for. or he should have at least sent harbhajan(to throw the bat at everything). He spoiled the momentum to remain not out. What is the use.

See yuvi was also not in form, and so was yusuf. They didnt hand on and kill the momentum that india had. I am now convinced that Dhoni has least regard for common sense. He is not fit to be a captain who i think should be selfless. See Dinesh karthik, he scored just 13 runs but his approach created a momentum.

Posted by sivasaravanan on (May 12, 2010, 9:10 GMT)

Yousuf should have been at @ the place of Dhoni.. He is good striker against spinners.. Moreover whenever Dhoni promoted himself at the top, both Dhoni as well as India flopped.

Posted by ch.rakeshlather on (May 12, 2010, 9:08 GMT)

finally team india is out of t-20 wcup. and everybody is loooking for excuses. they deserved to be out bcz they selected a out of form team fo this tournament check out the slected players in this ipl who perforemed well for there teams for winning cause. yuvi did nothing needs a big rest to make his body fit, piyush wrong selection mishra or ojha were better option, yusuf living two inning in ipl did nothing, gambhir out of form struggling to short, well murli was in form but failed in world cup, dhoni was just ok in ipl. only raina was been good through whole. ATLAST WHY DID THYE PICKED JADEJA IN T20 HE EVEN CANNOT HIT A BALL FOR FOUR AND HAVE NO VARIETY IN HIS BOWLING. jadeja helped india to go home in both t20 world cup. SELECTION commitee must have choosed ROBIN UTHAPPA man in form. and india must look out for there fast bowler option they have very little they must take it serioulely. mans like ishant, irfan,rp singh,shreeshant loosing there quality so hope india win 50 over cup.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 9:05 GMT)

Dhoni got packed schedule to act in Ads..............So only he returned back early.........He dont wan to waste time by playing in semis or final........he will earn more bucks here than playing there.....at the end of the day they will party ...we spend a sleep less nite ......going to watch football now on...no more cricket .....

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 9:02 GMT)

i remember when Pakistani players was not the part of ipl i read one indian cricket fan's views he suggest pak should start his own league may be its not possible but its possible pak team answer with performance team indian is just good enough to play low class bowling in ipl.indian team survive in test just coz of few old players lets see when the they retired from game.will happen same like t20

Posted by dd_k on (May 12, 2010, 8:59 GMT)

I think we badly need good bowlers,cricket is team sport in which we need both batsmen and bowlers,even if we are having 11 batsmen in our team can we chase a score of 150 against good team like Australia is a question .Now BCCI has to step up ,develop good pitches and shape up the bowlers.If we have good bowlers like steyn ,nannes with genuine pace our Indian batsman will learn automatically.Common BCCI put some some thoughts on our Indian cricket rather than IPL

Posted by hotmale on (May 12, 2010, 8:56 GMT)

As expected, Indian teams performance was ZERO.How can you expect performance & effort from players who are earning hundred of million rupees without doing any thing? how can you expect performance from players who are in team just because of their name and their performance didnt make any difference in their selection? How can you expect performance from players who came to this T20CUP after playing 40 days of contineous hardcore cricket (IPL)?

Indian team was simply not interested in winning any game. They lack in intent, their body language was so poor, they look tired, they look injured specially Gautam, Yuvraj, Zaheer. There was no unity amongst players, they were playing like individuals. I dont understand why dhoni opted for field in few games. I dont understand why he didnt sent yusuf up the order. There was no game plan in any game. A famous saying in circulation here

"All the Indian ladies, Indian players should stick to IPl, This one is for the BIG BOYS"

Posted by anonymousfan on (May 12, 2010, 8:56 GMT)

Eagerly waiting to see India travel to Australia, South Africa and England. Should be good fun

Posted by jamrith on (May 12, 2010, 8:55 GMT)

@Vishpal, you are rationalizing loss of form, if the whole team is off form in all the matches that is inexcusable, that means absence of form not loss of form.And why are you praising Harbhajan so much, sure he was relatively economical ( but not against SL), but he could not take any wickets. Look at his counterparts in other teams---Ajmal, Rehman, Shakib,Randiv,Mendis,Swann,Yardy,Steve Smith,Benn--they all took wickets !!

Posted by Karthi_nk on (May 12, 2010, 8:53 GMT)

Its an excuse that M.S.Dhoni has given for not being well prepared for facing the other teams quicks (especially AUS) with their fast bouncers targeted at our top-order batsman.Selecting Murali Vijay ahead of Robin Uthappa proved a costly mistake.Does R.Uthappa doesnt deserve to be in the 30 probables list???ITS A JOKE...Mr.Srikaanth must take this blame and think ahead other talents in the Country (OTHER THAN ONLY BRINGING TN PLAYERS) for the future.If the selectors wont consider IPL form for the national selection,then how did M.Vijay got into the T20 WC squad despite R.Uthappa's impressive showing in the IPL-3??

Posted by Chris_P on (May 12, 2010, 8:52 GMT)

MS Dhoni called it correctly they were not good enugh, not by a long way. Better get used to this disappointment all you Indian fans because when Sachin, Rahul and Sehwag leave in the other forms of the game, this is what you will be getting. And unlike the Aussies, your replacements simply do not measure up.

The IPL now is seen for it is worth. It's a Mickey Mouse Tournament played on substandard pitches that give batsmen inflated opinions of themselves. Put most of them on a pitch that does something and their technique falls dismally short of what it should be at this level. The warning signs were there a long time ago, India's capitulation last year's T20. the poor performaces of the IPL teams when pitted against decent opposition, even on their own pitches should have sent out warning signals that there was a problem.

The BCCI should get broadcast rights for Australia's "Big Bash", a 2 week T20 tournament in January to let people see what high quality T20 is all about.

Posted by satyasainvs on (May 12, 2010, 8:50 GMT)

where is the selector Kris?? Why don't he come to public and give reasons for failure? India again proven that PAPER KINGS. No true sporting spirit and enthusiasm and fighting shown. I feel better Indian team desire this loss. Let BCCI think again why they promote IPL and Champions League? making Indian loving sport more worst and foreigners get benefitted. When you see IPL3 tell me which foreign player play hard for their franchise. Now you see World T20 when representing their countries all these foreign players playing like kings. Smashing us like kids and rubber balls. I can assume most of the sixers given by our team only. Each match atleast given dozen sixers? Our main striking bowlers Bajji bowls wicketless in the whole competition. Again everytime he excuses that every match he can't take 5 wickets. Bajji first you take one wicket in each match then you talk about 5 wickets in a match.

Posted by kristokris on (May 12, 2010, 8:49 GMT)

Ban cricket in India and invest in other sports to grow in India like,football, hockey, tennis, badminton.

Posted by pucha on (May 12, 2010, 8:45 GMT)

I don't understand why Sehwag shouldn't be banned? -Second day after Delhi's exit from IPL, sights shoulder injury and stays away from the tournament. Why did he play IPL with Injury when he knows that T20I World cup is around the corner?

As usual Dhoni came in early on a pitch which didn't have bounce trying to be a messiah but ended up screwing India's chances big time! Why he didn't come up in the order in Bridgetown?

Someone pls tell Yuvi that he is playing a game, not partying!

It was evident that the players were some what divided based on IPL teams they were playing for. Probably Zaheer's reaction after dismissing Dhoni in IPL final was still fresh on Dhoni's mind. He should have never dropped zaheer, he is our best bowler

Nothing is going to change, we will continue to see the same team! Jadeja, Yousuf, Vijay, Chawla, Vinay, Karthick ( 6 of best 15)will play India's next T20I. Tiwary, Uthappa, Rayudu, Ojha won't even get their chance till they loose their touch.

Posted by Mausiq on (May 12, 2010, 8:45 GMT)

I think that India being knocked out of the 20/20 world cup is brilliant for the game to be honest. The BCCI thinks it runs cricket and is above the law and the IPL is a shambles at best...shows the poor quality you have on show there with your domestic players, with school boy cricket on show. You would think that dhoni and the indian selectors would actually pick the in-form players from the shoddy IPL but india continue to choose the same tried and tested players who are out of form and below par as usual which discredits the IPL even more. However, im not complaining, you deserve to be out and it is good for the game of cricket that you are not in the semi's and makes the competition better for it. lolz

Posted by dsig3 on (May 12, 2010, 8:44 GMT)

Love it!!!! I dont know why all of a sudden India cant play short pitch bowling. They played it pretty well here in Aus. They just choked. Plain and simple, they like to be the underdog with no pressure and thats why they will never dominate this sport. Its not easy being expected to win. Dont talk about not producing pace bowlers. Sharma and Sreesanth both have more talent than any bowler in the Aussie squad but India has destroyed them. I enjoyed the IPL but its standard was very questionable. I dont really think its comparable to international cricket.

Posted by mo1971 on (May 12, 2010, 8:42 GMT)

poor india they dont even realise that the glitz and glam of the ipl is only taking them backwards -you can only have one- glamour or good cricket or in indias case bollywood

Posted by Shafi79 on (May 12, 2010, 8:41 GMT)

India are out of this tournament because they have a toothless bowling attack, somehow it seems that MS Dhoni does not give too much importance to bowlers when picking a side, even the Chennai team is the same but he can get away with it in IPL cos the standard of cricket is lower. I dont know if india has the bowling talent available but i'm sure you can find some good bowlers in a land of a billion! Dont think this has anything to do with IPL or money, they just got beat by a better balanced side.

Posted by Sriram_Krishnamurthy on (May 12, 2010, 8:41 GMT)

India just didn't deserve to win or probably didn't want to win for whatever reasons. How else one could justify the selection of Jadeja on a wicket with so much pace and bounce. In Barbados, where the wicket was offering so much pace and bounce, we opened with Bhajji hoping for the best. To me, it all looks like one big political game. The first tournament, India won, second Pakistan and for all you know, third could be Sri Lanka. It cannot just be a coincidence... There is no reason to blame IPL or IPL parties. I think the whole idea of talking about IPL parties causing fatigue to players is probably an instruction from the Board, just to show Modi in poor light.

Posted by satyasainvs on (May 12, 2010, 8:40 GMT)

Horrible outcome. No one are learning from mistakes. If you see y'day match against SL India managed to hit 2 sixes, SL managed 8 sixes. If compare stroke makes Indian most of the players are stroke makers but they hit singles in last few overs. Really irritating game y'day. Especially Dhoni run like a mad dog in slog overs instead of hitting strokes. Really shame us to see our country display at world T20. Even expect the same result for ODI world cup. My sincere advice for sponsors not to sponsor cricket in India. Then only all players play for their country. I ask BCCI one question why you are resting seniors of Zimbabwe series why don't you rest these players in bloody IPL and champions league??? participating to your country is not your first priority? Do you know Zimbabwe beaten Pakistan and Australia in Warmup matches? on the other hand SL will come with their full team? why the shit you dropping most of the players? Are all Indian players tired by loosing matches???

Posted by ShAh00 on (May 12, 2010, 8:37 GMT)

Hello from Pakistan, Indian batting didnt flop, its the lack of bowling which India has always faced.... except in the era of SriNath, Kumble, Parasad... India never ever had the strong bowling side... with all due respect of likes of KAPILs & others.. but you will agree that except in Late 90s & early 2000s, INDIA never had strong bowling. Anyways, I also believe that Indian Circkets are also Lacking Committment for playing for their Country, just because the Money IPL has involved in, its about time, as a Die Hard Cricket Fan, My Sincere Advise to BCCI is that just tight some screws on players. Old Cricketers are earning a position on the basis of just repute rather than performances, for example missing ROBIN UTHAPA was the biggest mistake by Indian Selectors

Posted by amit.80s on (May 12, 2010, 8:26 GMT)

There is no point blaming dhoni i actually feel sorry for him coz he has to put up with a team like this. If there is anyone responsible for the team failure then it should be the selectors Mr. Srikanth & Co. for selecting a team like this. Honestly Yusuf, Murali, Piyush and Jadeja does not belong in this team, V Kohli, Robin Utapa, Ashwin and S Dhawan or S Tiwary were the guys in form and consistently performing during IPL. But our great selectors pick the out of form piyush, unconsistent murali, unreliable Pathan and out of touch Jadeja and put them in with already struggling Gambhir, Yuvraj and Karthik which put too much pressure on Raina and Dhoni. Our bowling was not too great either they always need big score to defend. On top of that INDIA decision of winning the toss against AUS & WI and choose to feild was no brainer coz chasing was never been India's strength. So stop blaming IPL its got nothing to do with India's failure and stop expecting them to win every time they play.

Posted by indian_follower on (May 12, 2010, 8:26 GMT)

I hope all the cricket fans might have seen the delighted face of our (so called) great caption MS after victory in last league match in IPL to enter semi's.. The kind of a great passionate player with so much passion to his franchise in IPL dont have any commitments to team INDIA???Yes. Obviously we cant win all matches but cant he manage with the team to win atleast one? Read the cmts pasted below

MS Dhoni is the Man of the Match He says, "It's a tough game, you can't always perform, but if you perform in big games, you get that tag of being the pressure player. But the fact is, Raina and Badri set the chase up. It was an emotional moment. Your franchise pays so much money for you, you should at least make the semi-finals. After that you can say it is a lottery. The kind of franchise we have got, the kind of team we have, we should have made it to the semi-finals before this game. So it was an emotional moment, at least for me."

Posted by Percy_Fender on (May 12, 2010, 8:26 GMT)

In the years between 98 to now, the Indian team has had the likes of Sehwag,Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid and Ganguly who were so good everywhere that this topic never had an occasion to arise. They were brilliant against Australia which remained the ultimate benchmark while everyone else floudered against them. No-one talked about short pitched bowling then. It is the current crop of IPL cosmetised softies that calls for special examination. It is they who because of the IPL glossing over their inadequacies causes this kind of embarrassment. Yes it is true that in the past Indians were poor travellers. So even with the finest players the team performed abysmally. I believe that it is a player wise deficiency not a regional shortcoming. Just like Indian players of different eras were, the Sri Lankans, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are good in hooking and pulling the ball. That will show that it has nothing to do with the pitches on which the game is played.

Posted by Dhushan on (May 12, 2010, 8:23 GMT)

A nice article Mr. McGlashan. As a Sri Lankan I am glad that we beat India. Your last line pretty much sums up everything about billions of cricket fans in India. Well played Sri Lanka & good luck in the rest of the matches! Cheers!

Posted by JB03 on (May 12, 2010, 8:22 GMT)

India didn't deserve to reach the next round. However, I wonder if BCCI pays enough to Dhoni and his men to reach the semis of a Tournament, like chennai super Kings. Also, they have all the time to play in the IPL, but when it comes to playing in the Ranji Trophy...they will be busy in shooting ads...No one minds, when they appear in ads or even if they loose a game...what hurts is the manner in which they loose games....I hope this doesn't happen in the 2011 world cup...all the best guys :)

Posted by Merc_11 on (May 12, 2010, 8:20 GMT)

What best team is he talking about? I adore dhoni as a captain and the value add he has brought to this Indian Team, however after the inception of IPL things have drastically changed, We indians have started fighting , it may be happening in the Indian outfit also, I play for this state iam performing better kind of situations are arising. Mr.Srikanth is one of the worst selector we have had because of his very much biased approach to the CSK people. Announcement of the team exactly the day before the CSKvs RCB and selecting Murali Vijay instead of the likes of Virat kohli and Robin uthappa who was in the formof his life.and getting in R jadeja who was not even a part of IPL and the most confused looking player in the T20 world cup. Mr.Dhoni, if you have a say in the selection, please select the people who give 100% and more for the country not the people who say in the interviews that "dhoni is my greatest inspiration, he is a great leader , he has teached me this and that" NO

Posted by Adamsdodo on (May 12, 2010, 8:20 GMT)

well whatever...Dhoni has got to accept that india missed SEHWAG..he's a big mtch player and he can score runs, utilize the power plays and put pressure on the bowlers which also benefits the other batsmen...without sehwag, even gambhir seemed ineffective...and sehwag is definitely a better plr of short balls with his upper cuts and late cuts.. so this debacle again is largely due to sehwag's absence..lyk last year

Posted by rohit_d1981 on (May 12, 2010, 8:20 GMT)

High time for dhoni to step down !! over the last year or so his moves as a captain has taken a serious jolt..at last when he decided to bat in the decider he pushes himself up the order and bats worse than Dravid ?..unable to capitalise on the start just shows the lack of creativity and commitment in the shortest format...man now the chokers tag is slowly collaring india too...Mr Kris Srikant stop getting your hopeless chennai guys into the squad and look for raw talent of Rayadu,Utthapa,Kohli !!... Dhoni sucks and our bowling lacks killing instinct.There is no point in winning home tournament by inviting teams and beating them...when it comes to big platform like ICC tournaments we succumb and end up showing our weakness...Well god be with India

Posted by Cricket_observer_from_1982 on (May 12, 2010, 8:19 GMT)

Dinesh Karthick giving excuse getting into the team as reserve WK then play as specialist batsman. Joke Joke Joke . Rejendra Jedeja looks like a clown, irresponsible runouts, don't take a catch, leaks all runs. Still gets repeated , repeated , repeated chances. Robin Uttappa , Virat Kohli etc all sits outside. Srikanth have to give some explanaion.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (May 12, 2010, 8:11 GMT)

This clamour of short pitch bowling leading to India's dismal ouster in the current World Cup merits a scrutiny. India have had some of the finest players of fast bowling over the years who were extremely good in hooking and pulling the ball. Without touching upon the C K - Merchant-Mushtaq era, I am sure most will agree that Durrani, Borde, Hanumant,Sardesai, Gavaskar, Vishvanath,before the Sachin generation were all excellent back foot players, who could hook and pull at will. Jimmy Amarnath had problems with the short ball. He tried playing with the 'sola toupee', something which made him look like a head clerk in the British days office. He failed with it as well when playing Rod Hogg in the Mumbai Test of 1969-70, the ball hit his early version of the helmet and crashed into the stumps. He left the Test scene but came back after hours and years of practice as one of the greatest players of fast bowling. This goes to show that practice enables anything really.

Posted by eminem on (May 12, 2010, 8:07 GMT)

Australia will be coming home with the cup. And now players from countries knocked out of the championship need not comment. Thank you. Ex-Indian Fan

Posted by shan228 on (May 12, 2010, 8:01 GMT)

I think Dhoni should resign from the captaincy. He's decisions are very poor. Guys this is the truth" Indian team is nowhere near the best in the world". I think India too much of focus on money rather than their Country. This is a shame …….Take SL & PAK as a example They play for their mother nations,,,

Posted by ramumenon on (May 12, 2010, 8:01 GMT)

MSD has been acting as though the Indian team is his personal fiefdom. Else there is no logic to continue playing the same team in the second match against WI. And Jadeja proved to be useless all over again. Ditto with Yusuf Pathan. He has never scored against quality pace. Every team in the world has measured him up and you will not fiond any ball in his bat's radius. And thats enough. Our man is sure to perish. Aside from all that MSD has a bias against Rohit Sharma. Else there is no logic not to play earlier. And even after having scored against Australia he just didnt mention anything about Rohit's innings which was the only saving grace in the whole tourney aside from Raina. And yet again, he didnt send in Rohit yesterday for batting while the out-of form Yuvraj and Pathan came in and wasted vital balls. Another thing : India never bothered about NRR, which could have been very vital had India won against Lanka. Even Vinay Kumar was not played till yesterday. Beats logic.

Posted by Jibi_gravity on (May 12, 2010, 7:58 GMT)

There has been a no. of flaws with the indian side . The main problem mot being they are not able to deal with the short ball , but rather they lack the temperament. The IPL has added to there arrogance and nothing else. While playing the IPL these players came across one or two quality bowlers in a match but here the scenario is quite different , To add to there misery the captain doesnt help. I think mahendar singh dhoni is a very incapable and incompetent captain to say the least. The decisions to field on two ocassions was smting no one could understand. If he had intended to exploit the dew of the pitch he wouldnt hav thrown the ball to spinners for the opening spell. I cant imagine what the Indian team will do without the Likes of SAchin, DRavid and Laxman on test level, once they hang up there boots.

Posted by KeithArtherton on (May 12, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

Few Points

1) The same JADEJA was toast of the eye for everyone winning "man of the match" in previous 20-20 encounters.Everyone was blaming BHAJJI for nt taking wickets.Hes a performer suddenly.ROHIT SHARMA "The talented non-performer" of previous tournament is being raved all over.

2) You lament over ROBBIE & OJHA not getting selected based on his IPL performance & then blame IPL for excessive/second string cricket

2) 20-20 is not as tiring as it seems. A regular day net session is more tiring than 20-20 matches.Moreover IPL is played at night & cooler weather.

Result : IPL is going to stay here & IPL performance has a very minute say in selections.It is basically the Domestic performance,age,region & vacancies that are taken care of

Posted by Tash7 on (May 12, 2010, 7:52 GMT)

This sure is getting to be a familiar situation for India....dropping out of the tournament...I mean all the matches they played so far were not even in the least "close" matches.....we were pummeled by no fewer than all the teams in our group....pathetic just does not begin to cut it. As for the team-the only players who look even in the least like the 'champion side' they were are Dhoni and Raina. I thought Rohit Sharma was pretty good as well. Gambhir- What the ^$%W%W is up with that guy?His running was beyond pathetic...right from the ipl days....so many run outs.....and now his quintessential inability to play the short ball.Zaheer- our spearhead "pace" bowler- sure...was a complete joke....at least nehra managed to contribute somehow, and vinay bowled excellently when compared to our champion medium pacer. Batting wise, yuvi struggled, vijay was hopeless (why the hell wasn't uthappa considered?),yusuf, well somehow never plays well for india.It's regrouping time- seriously!!

Posted by Arjun_karat on (May 12, 2010, 7:49 GMT)

I dont understand the attitude taken by indian selectors by including R.jadeja in indian team,ok we can forget that Robin uthappa is not in the team because team was selected from the start of IPL,but i cant understand y he didnt got selected for the tour of zimbabwe,i dont understand y dhoni is backing useless jadeja,take the case of I.pathan,he is the man who is in gud form,who can also take the role of opener instead of stupid M.vijay,he played some shorts against rajasthan royals,i dont think thats enough to play for our country,these are all because dhoni is backing his teammates in Chennai super kings,Y pathan is a guy who will showcase some mindblowing innings wen playing in IPL,wat is happening wen he plays for india,these things cant be tolerated,because he hasnt play a gud knock with the indian uniform.........india also lack gud bowling attack,its the bowling attack i have ever seen,we didnt have any match winners,we cant always win a match with spinners..pls comment on this

Posted by howizzat on (May 12, 2010, 7:44 GMT)

continued... Why in form players like Uthappa and Irfan are on the hit list of selectors? And callous attitude of selectors is still on. They have packed 5 SPINNERS (Ashwin, Ojha, Mishra, Jadeja and Yusuf) and the sixth one will arrive for T20 for upcoming triseries in Zimbabwe. And just an inexperienced quartet of pacemen which at least could have been enriched with experience of RP Singh, Irfan or Munaf. The team also has YUSUF(a complete flop show in ODI), JADEJA(who has lost his credibility after his recent showings), VIJAY(at the best a test player dispite the shortlived heroics in IPL). So Another disaster is waiting for India. Then dont blame Raina and his team. The blame should go on BCCI for its callous attitude, the coach and the selectors. And to save from further disasters in WC 2011 BCCI should SACK Kirsten & Co and also Srikkanth & Co with immediate effect.

Posted by SAIFMAIHAN on (May 12, 2010, 7:39 GMT)

Surprising performances have been seen in this tournament. I have been fan of Indian Team Since 2000 and have seen them wrong in many occasions. The First Mistake of Indian Cricket Team they do not have Good Fast Bowlers, I do not know why they can not find a fast bowler from their Huge population No 2nd in the world. Their bowling is weaker than Bangladesh. We all hope to have them concentrate in Bowlling Department, because they are the world best in batting line. I hope they will learn the lesson from their mistakes. thanks. Saiful Rahman Samim From Afghanistan.

Posted by dks123 on (May 12, 2010, 7:38 GMT)

IPL should not be blamed for this fiasco. ENG, AUS and SLK had most of thier players playing in IPL too. From AUS, Nannes, Johnson, Clarke, Hussey brothers, Watson, Warner, Marsh, Bollinger and Tait all played in IPL. Similarly Colly, Pieterson, Bopara and few others played. From SLK, Sanga, Jaisurya, Mahela, malinga, Mathews, Murali, Dilshan and couple of others played.

Real reason is, Indian players do not take cricket seriously. They do not practice enough. Team selection was really bad. Why was not R. Ashwin in the team? He was one of the best spinners in opening overs. All of our pace bowlers cannot bowl on a good line/length. Batsmen lack technique and application against genuine pace.

India needs to admit that they were out worked. We need to build pitches with lot of bounce and have the team practice there regularly. If we don't have pace bowlers to practice against, BCCI can spend some money and invent a bowling robot who can bowl as fast as one wants.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:37 GMT)

Just 1 question dhoni beta. Why the in-form Rohit Sharma not given batting? :)

Posted by Sakib241 on (May 12, 2010, 7:32 GMT)

Everyone is talking about bad team selection being the cause of India's early exit. I think one man could have done the trick for India this tour and he is Pragyan Ojha. Something that nobody has noticed is that the only bowlers the Australians had problems facing were the left arm off-spinners. The best performance against Australia this tournament has been by Bangladesh loaded with left armers. Yesterday Suleiman Benn and Nikita Miller did the same. So, something to look at for India. Pakistan should also see if they have someone like that for the semifinals.

Posted by INIDAN_Nandi on (May 12, 2010, 7:31 GMT)

Even Yuvi should be kept out for a while . All players r in late IPL night parties mood. Yusuf,jadeja,chawla must be thrown out.

Posted by forshailesh on (May 12, 2010, 7:30 GMT)

Looking forward, things to do for India team:

1. In practise session make the batsmen play the bowlers from 18-19 yards. Even the bowlers with 130 and 135 speed will be difficult to play and that will improve their timing and make them well prepared to face someone with 145-150 from 22 yards. 2. Make the bowlers ball from 24-25 yards in practise matches, this will definitely increase their speed.

Instead of blaming we need to find solutions, we love this game and we have to take the team to pinnacle in all format of the game.

Posted by Farce-Follower on (May 12, 2010, 7:30 GMT)

MSD knows one universal truth...success in Zimbabwe will erase Indian memories. He also knows who his bosses are...the 'Fan' is a fig leaf...the real bosses are his CSK employers and the BCCI mandarins. Period.

Posted by sundar1967 on (May 12, 2010, 7:30 GMT)

I have seen most of persons commented that robin uthappa has not selected. Even that makes no difference. Robin alos doen't no how to handle short pitch deliveries.

Regarding selection of Srikkanth, I feel he his as biased as any other selector giving importance to the players from chennai. for example during 1996-97 south african tour, there were as many as 7 Karnataka players in the national side. The selection was headed by G.R.Viswanath at that time.

Posted by Asif_Iqbal on (May 12, 2010, 7:27 GMT)

India always trying to make Pakitsan shorter instead making himself bigger now they out and Pakistan in look at the record Pakistan win only one game in super 8 but lost two very closed game and their net run rate is +0.04 but on indain's most popular cricket web site cricketnext.com shows -0.04 for last couple of day ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Posted by 26raghu on (May 12, 2010, 7:19 GMT)

Wow Wat a team !!!! Even before playing the Important stage of the World Cup , players are demanding rest for the next tournament . It happens only in this country . See Dhoni's comments "we are good players of Spin" , can u tell , which team plays spinners against team INDIA??? Our weakness to short-pitched balls has been exposed long time back and even minnows like ZIM and BAN will use it in the future . Its very sad that we are not used to these short pitched balls . In-spite of losing the first Match at bouncy Barbados Pitch if we go with a Spinner into the Team in the next match , that shows how good our team selection is . Overall a very disappointing tournament mainly due to the team Selection .

Posted by raghu198642 on (May 12, 2010, 7:17 GMT)

Bizarre tactics, shoddy fielding, audacious & impulsive strokeplay( VIJAY, YUVRAJ,YOUSUF), inconsistent bowling(Zaheer & Jadeja) have all costed india and eventually led to a dismal performance.Firstly,20-20 is not all about slogging the ball out of the park, rather, its all about guile.Intelligence coupled with constant improvisation can only help players to play consistently in this format.Look at Sachin and jayawardene,the way they played in ipl, every stroke had a class touch, no slogging & slamming.They deftly used the pace of the ball and were always good at checking & improvising their shots till the last moment.Our bowling lacked power.Harbhajan was the only consistent bowler.VIJAY,YUVRAJ,YOUSUF are 20-20 misfits.How many times will they get selected?If i were a selector i wud pick GAMBHIR,RAINA,ROHIT,DHONI,SAURAV TIWARY,RAYUDU,NEHRA,ASHWIN, HARBHAJAN,OJHA,SHEWAG(inj)/MANISH,PRAVEEN,VINAY,JADEJA,UTHAPPA irrespective of whether they loose or win.Common selectors show some spunk

Posted by howizzat on (May 12, 2010, 7:16 GMT)

I believe its all because of wrong selections and callous attitude of BCCI. BCCI has converted the sports named CRICKET a money making machine in India. And they are proudly calling it as "CRICKETAINMENT". Agrred to the fact that IPL is helping to unearth the talents in India but what about grooming and maturing them? The so called "Player Developing Programme" is being lost somewhere in the greed of power and money. Everybody knows the team gave in to rising deleveries in last T20 too. Then why are we grumbling again about it. What remedial action is taken to cure it? When all over the world others can rise the deleveries why not Indian bowlers? And this is a problem going on since 4-5 years with the decline of Pathan, Ishant and Munaf. Why BCCI is turning a blind eye on this problem? Why the selectors didnt have a forsight of what would happen in lively Barbados dispite the experience in last T20 WC? We had a quartet of which one Kumar was not used and the other had to return home.

Posted by Alburger2000 on (May 12, 2010, 7:16 GMT)

Forget the IPL, Indiancricketers have never shown any heart. they are a team of individuals who all play for themselves and have no team spirit. There is no other explanation for why india's trophy cabinet is nearly empty when for the last decade they have fielded teams compried of players such as Sachin, Seaweed, dravid, VVS, Dohni, anal crumble and other spectacular players!

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:14 GMT)

As dhoni said last year" i will give the gift to Nation after winning wstindies wordT20" ???? m not blaming mahindra but it is must to accept that something is going wrong inside either players are not supporting dhoni or any one want to be a captain..

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 7:13 GMT)

Bring back Irfan. He should be given importance like Angelo Mathews for Sri Lanka. Umesh Yadav should do well in the bouncy tracks. He was consistently above 140 in the IPL. Umesh Yadav for the next world cup wont do any good as it is going to be help in the sub continent. Uthappa should be in the squad as a 2nd wicket keeper. His presence would add pressure to Gambhir to perform well. Yuvraj should be picked as an all rounder and should bowl more. Best 15 for the 2011 world cup should be : In the order of batting 11.. Sachin, Shewag, Dhoni, Raina, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Irfan, Harbhajan, P.Ojha, Zaheer, Praveen.. in the bench .. Vinay, Gambhir, Uthappa, Yusuf

Posted by SSGupta on (May 12, 2010, 7:10 GMT)

It all started from the selection. Zaheer and Nehra are not 20-20 players. Jadeja is good for ODIs but not for 20-20s. Selectors were too hopeful on Yusuf, but he again failed. During the WC, Zaheer and Gambhir never looked fit. Yuvraj is looking uninterested in cricket even from IPL. The team doesn't look to have any strategy for their oppositions. Gary Kirsten was not busy in IPL! The other reason of India's exit is their inexperience of playing 20-20 on slow wickets. In IPL we have batting friendly pitches but not in Carib. Many Indian players try to give their best in IPL and look exhausted in the WC. 20-20 is the game for youngsters. In 2007 this team was a young team but not now. It need complete rehauling as far as 20-20 is concerned, especially bowling department.

Posted by dravidsthebest on (May 12, 2010, 7:01 GMT)

i hope this loss turns be blessing in disguise if chika is kicked out as a selector

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:52 GMT)

Another CITY MOMENT OF SUCCESS for KARBONN KAMAAL Indian team for dishing out another DLF MAXIMUM.

Well done No.1 Test Team. So amazing to see that all the main stars of every team in IPL were from outside barring Sachin.Be it bollinger,nannes,hussey, KP,Pollard or any1 else.I wonder why it is called Indian!! India now should drop Zaheer ,nehra and select Harmeet Singh who bowls at SUPERFAST 120 KM/PH or Maybe Ritendar Sodhi with ULTRAFAST 115 KMPH. I have seen Afridi a spinner clocking 125-126 with spinner's action in this tournament where Zaheer and Nehra were bowling at 125-130.

Also,World's No.1 Batsman Gambhir, In form Murali vijay Super coool Dhoni Top Finisher Yusuf Pathan Kinng Yuvraaj they all should pressurise BCCI to schedule all their matches with Srilanka and Bangladesh in Subcontinent

Posted by ashy16in_ on (May 12, 2010, 6:51 GMT)

I am surprised that no one has blamed Dhoni's scratchy innings for the loss yesterday. It is Dhoni's innings which cost India the match. He is a good ODI batsman but his strike rate of 108 in T20s suggests that he struggles in this format.India would have scored 180 plus if Rohit Sharma had batted ahead of Dhoni in the match.

Posted by Mashood_Pakistan on (May 12, 2010, 6:50 GMT)

I dont understand why Pakistan and Australia could show jealousy to India. Pakistan has played two consecutive finals and has qualified 3 times in a row for semis. i think india was playing to loose. that is why some people are laughing. Disappointing performance once again by the country where the next 50 50 WC is planned. wish india better luck next time. till then keep laughing :D :D

Posted by AhmedRaheel on (May 12, 2010, 6:49 GMT)

Elimination of India has surprised everybdy...even me being a pak Team fan...love to see India VS Pak final...but the body language of indian players were too low...They didnt seems confident, low on energy..probably overseen the situation and have already assumed that they will win the WC due to their IPL heroics..But the positive thing for all the subcontinent team is to gear up and get their act togther against the SHORT ball and bouncers Formula....Good lucK pakistan

Posted by ssarka11 on (May 12, 2010, 6:40 GMT)

if any one raise questione about consistency about indian team, i ll say he is wrong. India is consistent and they lost all the 2nd round match last year and this year. they stood 8 out of 8, congratulations team india. i dont blame dhoni at all but team india. our danger man yubi need to send back to domestic level again and make him sweat to find a place in the team, at least he will loose some weight when he will come back. Indian fielding is so sloppy because some of the senior players whatever they do, they will get way with it. BCCI should give hard time to them and they will come better again, for instance, ganguly is better fielder now than ever before. this proves only thing indian players need is hard time, everything will be fine again.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:36 GMT)

Please accept the fact that India is out, this shows that by having a so called 20/20 domestic tournament does not make you good at the format. The Pak team is in the process of being re-bulit, I am gald they have reached the semi and, the true Pak fans dont care if India has made it through or not. India is not the centre of attention, Indians have shown themselves that they are always overhyped (they have amazing players, but they cant gel in ICC Tournaments), they have proven this in the last 3 ICC tournaments, T20 2009, champions trophy 2009 and now. And in all 3 tournamants pak reached the semis atleast.

Posted by A_Rangarajan on (May 12, 2010, 6:35 GMT)

Why is there so much difference in pitches? They say sub continent pitches are flat and slow, but all other pitches are usually fast and bouncy. In games like soccer and hockey the grass on ground does not make any difference. Why not have standard pitches everywhere?

That said, Australia have won more games everywhere, even on flat tracks. So what is the deal about "Oh, the ball is short. It is bouncing too much. We cannot pull and hook well. We only cut and drive."?

IPL itself need not be blamed, but having played for 3 months on flat tracks and getting used to them (especially Raina, M Vijay, Y Pathan, Y Singh) it was difficult for them to play the bounce in Barbados. Gros Islet games were easier for India, defeating SA and not losing badly to SL (ignoring the importance of it for the tournament).

In the end, the more deserving teams have made it to the semi finals. I would love to see Aus. vs. Eng. final since they are the most deserving teams.

Posted by shamz71 on (May 12, 2010, 6:34 GMT)

india needs to hire pakistani players in their squads , they are professional T20 players . 3 T20 worldcups and thrice pakistan has qualified for the semi finals .

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:33 GMT)

It is amazing to see comments by us Indians on the site. It is only Indian fans and India media who can butcher their very own team when they need us the most. Somebody aptly said "Success has many fathers but failure has none". Come on guys there is a system to analyse performances and it will take its course. We should be supporting the beleaguered and bruised team rather than trampling on their faces to vent our frustrations. And what is this hypocrisy that Indian players are after hard cash, who in this world isn't?

Posted by kash26 on (May 12, 2010, 6:32 GMT)

India's main strength lay in their strong batting line up but unfortunately except for Rohit Sharma none of the other batsmen played well.Karthik should have been given a chance right from the start instead of inexperienced Vijay.Rohit Sharma should have been promoted up in the batting order considering the fact that he was the only one in form in this tournament.Quite strange to see that Rohit never got a chance to bat in the vital match against Sri Lanka.

Posted by anaveenaaron on (May 12, 2010, 6:30 GMT)

I dont find any wrong with dhoni, there is no point in blaming him. But, yes, he is finding excuses for the embarassing performance of his team. Having said that, what have others in the team are doing, people like Zaheer, Yuvraj, Gambhir, Yousuf, vijay??? Its an utter failure, Yuvraj, i do not understand his form, what value he's adding to the team, his fielding, batting, has gone down. Are they gonna rest Yuvi and Zaheer for the Zimbabwe series, what have they done to rest them. Ask these guys to skip a IPL tournament they'll never do that (money, money)! But when you play for ur country there is zero commitment.

First of all, Dhoni made a big mistake in the first 2 matches in super 8 by fielding first and then wasting the talent of Vinay Kumar (who bowled exceptionally well in the Debut match).

Drop Zaheer, Yuvi, Yousuf, Vijay (another big flop) from the team for sometime, make them play Ranji for sometime they should earn the place in the national team.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:28 GMT)

This is the best 15 (players) available in india?Are u F@#$%^$ Kiddin me?!!??i think what he meant was this is the best 15 our present chief selector Mr. Kris 'Bias" Srikkant could think of.Robin uthappa, who was in the form of his life in the ipl with murderous hits didnt even make it to the second string zimbabwe tour team!Dhoni should stop having a say in selection matters too.atleast then we can stop seeing school cricket from r.jadeja and y.pathan on the field!And murali vijay was the replacement for "virender Sehwag"!!murali vijay looked more like a person taken out of one of those unheard village tribes with no contact of the outside world and put in, bang in the middle of times square!and the rest is history...as they say..!And i would request Cricinfo (the most read cricket site)to hv an interview with srikanth and grill him till he admits he favors TN and CSK players.

Posted by devilinnocent on (May 12, 2010, 6:28 GMT)

I think we are to harsh with india though as a pakistani i would say even pakistan is playing under par and they as a cricket lover was not upto the excpectation to go through to semis except south africa match but that pakistan ! well readign the comment i guess it harsh with the players of india they did what they can batting was not bad but they dont have a bolwing options who canrestrict team from scoring anyways guy there we asian should be little easy when we loose as one team had to win who played better they are a good team every time we cant win

Posted by Vijayindu on (May 12, 2010, 6:24 GMT)

Sri Lankan lions will win the world cup this year.Mahela ,Dilshan,Sanga all in good touch.And Mathives,Kapugedara.And there is Malinga all so wining is sure

Posted by Looch on (May 12, 2010, 6:21 GMT)

Bad luck India T20 is a tough, unpredictable game, just make sure the lessons from this tournament are learned!

tahir1234, T20 was invented and first played in ENGLAND in 2003, the IPL has merely exploited it.

Posted by ramesh.k on (May 12, 2010, 6:20 GMT)

India really deserve this. India paid huge price for excessive cricket and giving most important for IPL. BCCI is not at all respecting ICC events. India lost because of sucking IPL. IPL cause physical & mental tiredness. I hope after this, BCCI will put national pride before money.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:17 GMT)

Hope BCCI gets its priorities right and do the needful to formulate a team that takes on the world next year in the ODI World Cup. The past, just as a loss, can be troubling but it can also become a stepping stone for future successes. Damage control is the call of the day today for Indian cricket. A crowning win next year would definitely soothe the wounds inflicted on the souls of many Indian fans in the last few days.

Posted by prins72 on (May 12, 2010, 6:11 GMT)

There were some big tactical errors from Team India:

1. What was the plan to counter Malinga, SL's best bowler? Probably Yousuf should have been sent up the order which would have forced SL to bowl Malinga more at the start (which they don't prefer) rather than at the death. Also, sending Yousuf up the order would have been an attacking option which would have sent the message that the team is looking for a 180+ score.

2. Why was Rohit Sharma's bowling not used in any of the matched? Rohit & Raina could have been tried on the St. Lucia pitch especially when the best bowler (Harbhajan) had an off day. Having said that, the duo should have been used when the pressure was on SL after they had lost Dilshan and were in trouble at 49/3 in the 8th over.

3. Pace and bounce has never been India's forte; but where were the yorkers, change-of-pace and slow bouncers?

Most importantly, the body language of the Indian players did not give the impression that this was a do-or-die match for them.

Posted by vishpal on (May 12, 2010, 6:10 GMT)

everywhere i see,people thrash india's poor perfomance linking to IPL riches. Now now, tell me who made IPL popular? did dhoni come and beg for a Million bucks? why are you crying now? joke will be next IPL everyone will be back supporting their regional team. now coming to flop show in t20 world cup, every expert seem to say we failed coz batsmen not good against pace. tell me which team has done well against aussie pace in this tourney? zaheer/yuvraj are unfit. nehra is a on/off bowler. bhajji was the only form bowler. you wanted to win this tourney with this team? joke. its the team composition which went badly wrong. our selection politics is too complex to avoid this permanent problem. the only way we can win things is to hope bolwers & batters are in form and quality guys are all fit. otherwise these things bound to happen.

Posted by BarackBush on (May 12, 2010, 6:08 GMT)

The reasons for defeat........ 1.The slected team is not best 15. how did they select chawala instead of Pragyan Ojah. 2.This is the maximum can do by this team. 3.Unlike 2008, there were no individual performance this time. 4.Five best batsmen and 5 best bowlers are must. see australian team. 5.Capacity of using their brain is questinable. 6.Murali vijay,Yousuf pathan, Jadeja and zaheer khan are all not up to the mark. 7.Three full toss balls in last two overs and all six. Tight bowling habit is lacking with our bowlers

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 6:06 GMT)

It is amazing. Cricket Pundits say that there are glorious uncertainties in Cricket. Once again it was proved. First 10 overs India produced 90 runs on the board but next ten overs only yielded 73 runs with plenty of wickets in hand. But Sri Lanka in contrast first 3 overs only produced less than 20 runs for two wickets and produced 44 runs in the last 3 overs thanks to power hitting of Mattews and Kapugedara only for a solitary wicket. History has been repeated and India has to leave St. Lucia without a win in the super eight stage.

Posted by jr2012 on (May 12, 2010, 6:05 GMT)

Ah boy, love people making conclusions of t20 cricket...this might be serious tournament but it ain't a judge of quality of a cricketer. The Indian players won't care a hoot as about failure in 20-20 when they play IPL. Remember they are No. 1 Test side, and No. 2 ODI. As an Indian fan this exit doesn't really hurt, and to be honest most indian fans didn't really bother about the WC after the IPL.

Posted by gyanveer on (May 12, 2010, 6:02 GMT)

Cool Dhoni sir... slight difference between being outplayed and not playing to international level.

Posted by brazee10 on (May 12, 2010, 5:57 GMT)

Hey guys. . pls bear with dhoni. he thinks at least he is one among the best or the best in the country. but mr. dhoni, you are not, neither the bunch of men without balls, under your care. I am happy you have not claimed to be the best in the world as others and you so often do in the post match presentation of the ipl matches.

Posted by hkapil on (May 12, 2010, 5:55 GMT)

It time Dhoni starts admitting the issues and openly admit them. Kind of statement "they outplayed us and nothing can be done with that" only show he is trying to hide or accept drawbacks. he should be telling why rthey outplayed us. Moreover teh selection panel of indian cricket is just working on past reputaion. Yuvraj, Yusuf, ravindra jadeja would never have made in any other cricket team for - out of / no form, only succesful on slow pitches and no cricket played in last 9 months respectively. Still we had them on team and at end of world cup campaign we all can see very well what these three contributed to team. Rather the likes of Robin uthhappa, Shikhar dhwan , amabati rayadu and amit mishra should have been picked.

Posted by RagsTweets on (May 12, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

@Andrew McGlashan:

FYI, this defeat is worse than the elimination in WC 2007. One shock defeat to Bangladesh proved to be costly. Here a series of defeats, and a golden opportunity of resuscitation from an "almost dead" situation - Dhoni now has no right to say that WC 2007 is India's lowest point!

To add salt to the wounds, an ostracized Pak and an old and worn out Sri Lanka have made it! In yesterday's match, average age of Indian team is 26 years, that of Sri Lanka is 29 years - "spoilt young hands and legs" no substitute for "disciplined seniors"

The Rich Boy of world cricket, the cradle of world's redefined, new-wave T20 is also the blackest sheep amongst all 'senior' T20 playing nations.

Posted by raarani on (May 12, 2010, 5:54 GMT)

Khudoos, the shameless Dhoni & his men have shown that they are paper tigers. The worst thing is more weaker team like Pakisthan and England have made to the semis. The so called great Dhoni and his men didnot show the courage to win atealst one match in the super eight. West Indies proved that they are better than our team, inspite of having such a bad run. We are now the last team in the group of eight test playing nations. IF Shrikanth and Dhoni have self respect and respect towards their nation they should step down immediately or else it will be eveident they are there with vested interest and not for the sport.

Posted by kevivnajar on (May 12, 2010, 5:51 GMT)

this is not at all the best 15 from India..Losing is part of a game, but the manner in which india lost hurts the most. last 2 yrs - not a single win in super 8 matches - horrible. When you can score only in 1 type of bowling, in 1 type of pitch, you better play street cricket only. Shame on BCCI to have excluded Sachin, Saurav and Dravid from the T20 straight away thinking it is a game for youngsters. Without them, Indian team is nothing. See their performance in IPL.. they can play on any surface against any attack. International T20 is for Smart players not hard hitters. What did Pathan do? Until you groom the players like Raina, Vijay, Kohli, S Tiwary, Rayudu, R Sharma to be versatile and adapt to any bowling condition and pitch condition, you should call back the seniors. T20 is over. Practice and coaching needs to start NOW if India needs to avoid a crowd beat-up in 2011 World cup at home. If India disappoints in the ODI world cup at home, that will the END OF INDIAN CRICKET.

Posted by IndiaCricketFan on (May 12, 2010, 5:50 GMT)

:-) I can see the Pakis and Aussies pouncing and jumping to write comments. I am actually enjoying reading the immature coming out of sheer jealousy! ;-)

No doubt Aussies had to come good. Law of averages after being thrown out in last 2 tournaments... Pakis - Well I am glad you guys are good at atleast one form of Cricket ;-)

Expecting some more nasty comments after this post. I will get a chance to laugh some more ;-)

Posted by Rajit on (May 12, 2010, 5:48 GMT)

BCCI wake up and give players some breathing space...have proper gap between global events and other tournaments,particularly IPL/CLT20 etc... & more importantly sack Srikkanth and Co.They just can't get away with an annual remuneration in seven figures and not held accountable.After under thie regime India has flopped in3 consecutive ICC events..BCCI kindly give due importance to ICC tournaments

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:47 GMT)

i thing the main problem is Ipl. indians are not using from experience of there teammates from australia or england or etc . they just having fun playing with girls and expending money and coming on tv shows.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:45 GMT)

I think there are so many reasons of India's defeat. First, main strike bowler, Zaheer khan, was not firing. Moreover, India was much more dependent on spinners and they don't have ruthless quick bowlers like Shaun Tait, Motchel Johnson and Dirk Nennes. Second, Murli Vijay and Dinesh karthik were looked lethargic and unimpressive to get off the flying start to India. Third, Yousuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja should have been given opportunities based on their performance rather than their impressions. Lastly, Dhoni could have batted in the top order in difficult conditions and assisted India to take to big totals on many occasions. Overall, everything went wrong.

Posted by jamrith on (May 12, 2010, 5:41 GMT)

@Muhammad Ali, you are quite right to shame the Indian display, we agree, but this Pakistani team is not "weak". The removal of Yousuf,Younis and Malik has strengthened the team and it should go all the way, I predict,Inshallah, they will beat the Aussies in the semis and the Lankans in the final

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:40 GMT)

I think there are so many reasons of India's defeat. First, main strike bowler, Zaheer khan, was not firing. Moreover, India was much more dependent on spinners and they don't have ruthless quick bowlers like Shaun Tait, Motchel Johnson and Dirk Nennes. Second, Murli Vijay and Dinesh karthik were looked lethargic and unimpressive to get off the flying start to India. Third, Yousuf Pathan and Ravindra Jadeja should have been given opportunities based on their performance rather than their impressions. Lastly, Dhoni could have batted in the top order in difficult conditions and assisted India to take to big totals on many occasions. Overall, everything went wrong.

Posted by AatifAnwar on (May 12, 2010, 5:39 GMT)

the same old story repeats and it will go on repeating unless there is some serious thinking on selection issues. why the hell wont anyone select Irfan Pathan? he is better and more useful than any player in the t20 format. he cud have opened and scored more than vijay for sure. he cud have bowled with a better economy rate than jadeja and fielded better than nehra. there is some politics in keeping him away form the team.gosh not even selected in top 30 hahaha thats a joke and Indian team will always pay.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:39 GMT)

No need for us Pakistanis to rejoice India's ouster. We got in on pure Luck. They still have a good team but players need to deliver now. I dont remember when was the last time that Yuvraj played a noteable innings. This is a common problem with sub continent teams. players ride on the basis of reputation than performances.

Posted by ihaq1 on (May 12, 2010, 5:35 GMT)

the indians compare easily with the south africans who went down to easily against pakistan..however the south africans depend on fast men who might have tired out..not being able to defend a 140 plus total shows poor captaincy and inadequate bowling...both south africa and india showed that only one batsman tried to play wel in an inningsl...india is not an attacking side and should adopt the strategy of starting out slowly and building a total rather than all out attack which failed miserably against australia...indians who now earn more money at home are usually on an R&R trip rather than playing seriously...

Posted by CRICRAZY123 on (May 12, 2010, 5:35 GMT)

How can Dhoni say that this is the best 15??? why didnt Tendulkar replace sehwag? and why not Uttappa in place of Ravindra Jadeja?? where is RP Singh, one of the better bowlers in T20? What about Ojha?? My 11 wud be Tendulkar, Gambhir, Uttappa, Raina, Yuvraj, Pathan, Dhoni, Bhajji, Ojha, Zaheer,RPSingh/Nehra.

Posted by unclesam05 on (May 12, 2010, 5:34 GMT)

I think India sorely missed Sehwag. India are always inadverdantly dependent on his starts and he is normally the clue to how the match will eventually unfold. But with him not being there and with the likes of irresponsibles like Gambhir opening the batting, India were always going to be in trouble. Its time India stopped depending on one batsman for clues. We keep blaming the IPL for it's nature and it's effects but both the world cups have had 1 thing in common - absence of Sehwag at the top. What he gives India is absolutely tremendous. A brilliant package - a terrific, swashbuckling and fearless opener who can play any kind of delivery that can be bowled to him, a brilliant off-break bowler who's guiles are difficult to pick in a short format and a very good fielder as well. His sheer presence sends ripples down the spines of any opposition, be it even the magical Australians. What he does to opposition to normally starts even before the first ball of the match is bowled.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:34 GMT)

I am so happy India r knocked out of the world t20.............bt i feel pitty for all the indians and other supporters of india around the globe........i guess the hype surrounding the indian team is a little too much and thats what lets them down!!

Posted by Bone101 on (May 12, 2010, 5:29 GMT)

Can I just say two things. Firstly, World Cup events are always difficult and it's no ones fault India didn't go through to the next round - they were just beaten by better teams on the day. Also, Indian fans, I hope you realise now what the Australia team and their supporters have to go through as 'tall poppies' of world cricket over the last few years. I think its rude how other countries fans insult and deride you for being succesful over the past few years.... Good Sportsmanship? I think not! Remember what its like on the other side now!

Posted by ihaq1 on (May 12, 2010, 5:28 GMT)

The indians depend too much on yusuf and yuvraj and if they donot score than they are in trouble...I think they should consider a new captain who did not do terribly well either...their opening and middle order failed in all matches with murali vijay and why they took along sehwag when he did not want to play is unknown...karthik also failed and the bowling while steady is not dangerous..nehra too should retire...india should look for bowlers who can bowl above 140...medium pace bowling is only effective at home...pakistan too has struggled with ineffective fast bowling...replacing all rounders karthik and yusuf with top line batsmen and murali vijay with a top line opening batsman and at least one really fast bowler would make the world of a difference...

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:26 GMT)

Same scenario year after year.Look at the body language of our players.look at the attitude of Yuvaraj.ther is no commitment.he didn't do well past 6months or so still he was selected.selectors shuld realize its not about past performances the players shuld be selected on present form.do u cal zaheer experience bowler.infact vinay bowled better than him in his debut match.look at the performance of experience bowlers in other teams and look at our team.Is Irfan and robin uthappa worse than murali vijay or ravindra jadeja?only our selectors knows the answers.indian lacks the bench strength and god only knows wht happens to our test team once sachin,dravid,laxman retires.

Posted by MadeInIndia on (May 12, 2010, 5:14 GMT)

Players like RAYUDU need to be given chances in international cricket.

As long as we keep selecting DUMMIES like yuvraj, dhoni etc... based on reputation and not form or talent, we are in for a soup

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 5:14 GMT)

Hahaha........we pakistani are proud of our team..they reached semi with such a weak team.shame on india...star studded,much hyped team..shame on dhoni,yuvraj and pathan.........

Posted by jamrith on (May 12, 2010, 5:14 GMT)

What was most pathetic, apart from Gambhir's strolls (do not dignify the action by calling it a run), was the way the Indians gave up once the Sri Lankans were less than 20 runs behind. We could have salvaged some national pride by at-least winning this game, but no one seems to care. The erstwhile extreme reactions of the public back home have been replaced by a collective shrug. People are probably counting down to the next IPL, when whole families of couch potatoes can again revel in DLF maximums, tracer bullets, Karbon Kamaal Catches and cheerleader-ogling.

Posted by Cricket_observer_from_1982 on (May 12, 2010, 5:12 GMT)

Let Srikanth be answerable for selecting Dinesh karthick , Murali Vijay and Revendra Jedeja ( some other selector ) Robin Utappa Virat Kohli are all sitting outside. This Joke may very well continue. Like IPl there should be some enquiry on this

Posted by simssoul on (May 12, 2010, 5:09 GMT)

only good on dead picthes.cant play bounce, handle pace, and have one of the most dreadful bowling lineup. three bowler with two fancy glasses on and one with a dashy bread. India should find quality spinner.

Posted by admshafi on (May 12, 2010, 5:08 GMT)

If there are no sachin,dravid or sehwag in indian team, india are very ordinary team.

Posted by LesGrossman on (May 12, 2010, 5:07 GMT)

I've enjoyed this T20 world cup a lot. Especially enjoyed all the india fans who said they would meet australia in the final after australia's pace and high powered batting DESTROYED there beloved team india in the first game of Super 8's. Wake up Dhoni and stop making excuses, a real leader like Ponting or Clarke wouldn't do that!!! A real leader also would make his team train and play warm up games, i guess team india is just plain old lazy. aus vs eng final will be fantastic to watch, at least some world class players to watch who can play off the back foot! BTW who won the chokers tag from this tournament? South Africa or Team India????? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by aadh_king on (May 12, 2010, 5:04 GMT)

Happy Holidays spent in Caribbean after IPL luxury! Certainly IPL is not world class!

Posted by admshafi on (May 12, 2010, 5:02 GMT)

When india get flat pitch,they are champion,but sporting pitch,they must eliminate from first round.

Posted by Raft on (May 12, 2010, 4:59 GMT)

It was sad to see my team lose in such fashion. The great Indian batting line up could not clear the ropes as much as was required. I was hoping for 190 minimum after seeing 91 in 10 overs. We were clearly short by 30 runs. Dhoni's captaincy was in shackles, i was noticing one thing. When a bowler got a wicket in an over, he was declined the next over and instead was given for spinners and they went for runs. Ashish, he thinks for an off side field set, he can bowl on leg stump and get wickets, he was hammered for fours every time he bowled on the leg stick, he did this repeatedly. He bowled a beauty for Mahela on the off stump and got the wicker, but still he kept on pitching on the leg stick and got hammered. Spnners, Bhajji well he was totally offcolour and so was Piyush Chawla, how can you slow bowlers bowl short balls? Team had lost the match much before it started rather the tournament before it could begin.

Posted by sashwin on (May 12, 2010, 4:58 GMT)

IPL should be renamed GPL, Greedy Personal League. India is a poverty nation, and these cricketers display their wealth in vulgar fashion with the money they earn through IPL.

Never mind if India loses in test matches, ban test cricket. never mind if India loses in ODIs, ban ODIs. And now, they will say we need to ban T20 internationals also. IPL is the only official and recognized form of cricket. test matches and ODIs are for lesser nations, not for proud nations like India!!

Posted by dilnarayanan on (May 12, 2010, 4:57 GMT)

I think the key for failure was our GREAT captain himself as he step in ahead of hitters like Yusaf pathan,Yuvraj sigh, Rohit sharma, he has to go for big shots and do justice to that move.but he failed like anything... 90/1 in first 10...73/4 in last 10...only indians will have such a figure. Amazing bowling by Lanka..then regarding what Dhoni said..."best 15 players" he got...really "hatsoff" to him for that statement..I think the BEST one of the lot for Dhoni should be RAVINDRA JADEJA...4 matches..Plenty of runs given...dropped 3 or 4 match decider catches...really the best one...finally a request to the cricket followers..."Stop wasting your precious time for this good for nothing INDIAN TEAM"

Posted by admshafi on (May 12, 2010, 4:55 GMT)

Its not ipl, its a world cup, so it was prdictable.

Posted by seventhumpire on (May 12, 2010, 4:50 GMT)

After this disappointing show in the WC, I think it is time the BCCI sat down with the captain and coach and analyse everything. I am sure they will have quite a number of problems to deal with but the major one would be the effect of IPL: As the writer put it rightly even though Dhoni denies the fatigue factor but definitely it is a factor that has affected the team. I have a advice/solution for BCCI. Now that IPL is in a mess, why not just close this league system instead why not make the domestic tournaments more on the line of the English County system. We could have tournaments for the 3 formats and let these teams be owned by a private company/shareholders so that money flows in and allow a couple of foreign players to participate to just add a touch of quality and International flavor. Our domestic structure could be as gud as the IPL only if BCCI and the various state cricket boards allow the big companies to have a share. Pay should be based on performance and not seniority.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:48 GMT)

I think this is the way cricket. but thing is Indians can't face the pressure matches. Indian have the best hard hitting batsmen. but there not coming of real time. any congratulation to young & experience sri lankan team.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:46 GMT)

Might of Money does not work at all, All the Indian players who are playing in this team had the privelege of having T20 mathch practice for nerarly 50 days but ulimate result when it really matters is zero. It proves the players are mostly after hard cash. They have to now pay heavly for what they did to Pakistani players purely motivated by dirty politics when it came to IPL auctions. Many Sri Lankan players in IPL teams were not given enough matches to play. Indian despotic dictates and attitudes had miserably failed. Where do Pakistan and Sri Lanka heading now sans IPLs. India at least now come down you pedestal or you will be thrown out of the world cup in you back yard.

Posted by Deepak_Sachin on (May 12, 2010, 4:45 GMT)

SANJAY MANJREKAR AND HARSHA BHOGLE!This is for you.U PEOPLE ARE BIASED TOWARDS IPL AND GET MONEY FROM THEM THAT ALL DURING THE IPL YOU WERE PUTTING UP ALL SORTS OF ARTICLES AND NOW TELLING THAT INDIA LOST BECAUSE OF IPL.YOU BETTER WORK FOR THEM OR FOR INDIAN TEAM.DONT PLAY DOUBLE GAMES/

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:45 GMT)

Gambir looks tired, Yuvraj out of form, Vijay, pathan & even Dhoni didn't play well as liked. Zaheer unfit.We can't win a tournament with only 3 players playing well ( Raina, Harbhajan, Nehra) Team selection was poor against Aussies and Windies. Batting was our problem at most.

Posted by sweetspot on (May 12, 2010, 4:43 GMT)

Enough already with the negative comments! It is so easy to criticize someone when they are down. Whoever said Sri Lanka are the better side? (deepthaT20?) Just check the results of the last 5 India-SL series, Tests or ODIs. India's cricketers are a tired lot. It takes a lot of vitality out of sporting bodies when they play a whole summer at 42C and five days later they are in the West Indies, playing a World T20 event. Our cricket board seems to think that not having an injury means the player is fit. Fit, but not strong right now, our players are. This is pretty much the same team that beat Australia in Australia, 2-0! There are lessons to be learnt, and adjustments to be made, and it is all part of the game. Our cricket team is the best performing Indian sports team, so let's shut up and encourage them.

Posted by NiroshanDep on (May 12, 2010, 4:43 GMT)

Why doest it suprise me. India with aparently the best players in the world, keeps loosing when it really matters. I for one think the players dont get along as they should, they have alot of individual pride. Saw how Gambir was running betweent the wickets? (the best player not so long ago). How they gave up, late into the sri lankan chase and Í am talking about them getting to 143. I would like to support India considering the talent, but I never can get around to doing it. Its a team full of promise, but never seem to make it happend when matters. Sri Lanka did a very good job, however what is Jayasuriya still doing in the team? He leaves his best for India, he was clueless today. Jayasuriya has done alot of SL cricket but its time to go

Posted by SameenRana on (May 12, 2010, 4:41 GMT)

Dear Indian Team , Well done keep playing IPL and keep loosing ICC event .. I am loving it ..This team is good for only IPL , Much hyped players typical bollywood style . Look at the others teams, with the exception of Sri lanka majority of the other semi finalist team players did not participated in IPL (Indian PESA league).

I feel pitty for the sponsor as well 90 % of the sponsor are from India and look what their team has done .. CHA CHA CHA

Posted by arasan000 on (May 12, 2010, 4:40 GMT)

drop y.pathan , jadeja,chawla, yuvi for a while , dhoni as captain permanently....... put bajji as captain....include irfan patha, utappa, mishra,and also give chance for the young players.... dhoni managed only 23* runs of 18 balls..... he came at 11.2 and managed only 18 balls.....

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:37 GMT)

I totally disagree with MS.This is not the best 15men squad.Where is robin uthappa in the squad?(he hit most no. of sixes in IPL).how abt pragyan oja?(leading wicket taker in the tournament).We cant blame dhoni.Its Mr.Chennai kanth(indian cheif selector) who spoil indias dream of t20world cup.He must to resign taking up the responsibility.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:34 GMT)

India can only play good at home . they are no t20 players like David Warner or Shaun Tait or Umar Gul . also have no mental strength . they need players like afridi and Gayle. and they cannot be produced in ipl mess.

Posted by mindcrick on (May 12, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

It seems that Indian players have exposed to other teams than they do because of IPL. They also have to do something with fast tracks.

Posted by RajeshAcharyaH on (May 12, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

It is ridiculous to say that the 15 member side is the best what we have. It is far from the best. At least few players does not deserve to be in the side. I do not understand the logic of picking two spinning all rounders, one without any match practice and another has only one shot in his armory. The day squad was announced sensible people knew it will be bounced out of the tournament. Our bowling looks toothless with fast bowlers coming out of injury and not being in their best. Once again the idea of playing three specialist bowlers is beyond the comprehension and even in that three one is out of form. Given the kind of team that we had for this tournament, it is great that we qualified to super eight.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

India can only play good at home . they are no t20 players like David Warner or Shaun Tait or Umar Gul . also have no mental strength . they need players like afridi and Gayle. and they cannot be produced in ipl mess.

Posted by Raju_Iyer on (May 12, 2010, 4:32 GMT)

To people like Bang_La and rambala 13 : don't be so fickle minded in your support. India did not become Test #1 by winning series only on (placid) Indian pitches. And don't forget what miserable performances were put up by Australia in the last two editions of the T20 world cup - even though they were the top Test and ODI team then? M S Dhoni is 100% right when he says the best available Indian team was outplayed, so we have to accept that and learn to improve. Just imagine for a moment that M Vijay was not picked and we had lost, everyone would be shouting from the rooftops why someone who did so well in the IPL was not selected. Ditto for Yusuf, did he not help us win the first time, Robin was dropped after many opportunities were provided to him. If there is one thing we can learn from this tournament it is that you need a great (not good) bowling attack, even if the batting flounders, lower order players can hit a few and give you decent scores to defend.

Posted by zilladude on (May 12, 2010, 4:31 GMT)

This is a massive failure of the team and especially the captain and the whoever was in the "think tank". Opting to Bowl against Australia and West Indies and opting to Bat today against SL is hard to understand. India should learn from Pakistan on what "instinct to Win" means. Dhoni had given up on the fight for Semis even before the first ball was bowled today; such is the spirit and will-to-do approach in the team. It is just that these "rich-and-famous" bunch of bozos don't give a damn about the billions of fans and all they care about is money through endorsements. Time to reign these players in and make them win to get paid. And, our selection committee: Srikanth is a joke. He needs to explain on why M.Vijay was preferred over R.Uthappa and why the loser Jadeja was preferred over P.Ojha. And yes, Yuvraj and Y.Pathan should be dropped for the near future. Time and again, these so-called young team is proving, sadly, that we are no good without Sachin and Dravid.

Posted by RajeshAcharyaH on (May 12, 2010, 4:29 GMT)

It is ridiculous to say that the 15 member side is the best what we have. It is far from the best. At least few players does not deserve to be in the side. I do not understand the logic of picking two spinning all rounders, one without any match practice and another has only one shot in his armory. The day squad was announced sensible people knew it will be bounced out of the tournament. Our bowling looks toothless with fast bowlers coming out of injury and not being in their best. Once again the idea of playing three specialist bowlers is beyond the comprehension and even in that three one is out of form. Given the kind of team that we had for this tournament, it is great that we qualified to super eight.

Posted by zilladude on (May 12, 2010, 4:29 GMT)

This is a massive failure of the team and especially the captain and the whoever was in the "think tank". Opting to Bowl against Australia and West Indies and opting to Bat today against SL is hard to understand. India should learn from Pakistan on what "instinct to Win" means. Dhoni had given up on the fight for Semis even before the first ball was bowled today; such is the spirit and will-to-do approach in the team. It is just that these "rich-and-famous" bunch of bozos don't give a damn about the billions of fans and all they care about is money through endorsements. Time to reign these players in and make them win to get paid. And, our selection committee: Srikanth is a joke. He needs to explain on why M.Vijay was preferred over R.Uthappa and why the loser Jadeja was preferred over P.Ojha. And yes, Yuvraj and Y.Pathan should be dropped for the near future. Time and again, these so-called young team is proving, sadly, that we are no good without Sachin and Dravid.

Posted by sunderravi on (May 12, 2010, 4:27 GMT)

DHONI cant answer why YUVI and pathan were sent before instead of sending Rohit Sharma

Posted by MuchMore on (May 12, 2010, 4:25 GMT)

Last line is as clear a truth as it gets.

Posted by Crusader1980 on (May 12, 2010, 4:24 GMT)

Who cares for National pride when they can make millions by playing 4 weeks in IPL...!!! Without a doubt the so called superstars of Indian cricket are not very keen to perform in the international arena and make India proud. The body language of the players are there to be seen. By seeing Yuvraj Singh one gets the feeling that he was compelled to play for India. We the idiot fans wastes our sleep and watch the cricket until early hours of the morning. FOR WHAT.....???? TO SEE THESE BUNCH OF JOKERS....??????? Can't even defend 25 runs in 8 balls....????!!!! Just see Pakistan as to how they raise there game in crunch situations...they have belief in themselves and more importantly...Belief in GOD...

Posted by DHOBIRONA on (May 12, 2010, 4:23 GMT)

BAN IPL, punish MODI/PAWAR/SRIKANTH like Qasab. Dhoni should be fired from captaincy and team. Make sehwag/tendulkar/tendulkar captain. Yuvi should be sacked. Harbhajan is our strike bowler who does not take any wickets. Look at other spinners. Our fast bowlers r pathetic, fielding terrible.

Future of Indian team sucks if corrupt selectors/officials are not punished. Fure is Bleak.

Posted by Sakib241 on (May 12, 2010, 4:21 GMT)

I don't know why people are whining about not having Shehwag, Utthappa or Tendulkar. The tracks in IPL had no lateral movement or bounce.Another thing most people don't take into account or even know about is reduction of pace. When Shaun Tait digs in a bouncer at 150 km/hr at Jaipur it reaches the batsman at 115 to 120 km/hr. Here in Barbados the reduction of pace off the pitch is less and the batsman have to face it at 125 to 130. That is enough to trouble anyone in the world. Both Shehwag and Utthapa would have had problems against short ball here because they try to force the short ball down the ground. And it would have been very difficult to overcome the force exerted by the ball on bat and they would have also holed out like Raina, Gambhir and Vijay. Only Tendulkar with his experience would have known to help the ball on its way than force it. But how long are they gonna depend on him. No matter how good form he is in, he is 37.

Posted by OMER621 on (May 12, 2010, 4:21 GMT)

Completely unacceptable !! they were no way close to Australia or Sri Lanka in super 8.... Thier body language was lazy and playing for the nation seems to be the second pririoty after IPL. Need to seriosly manage the work load to perform in international format. Couldn't beleive, they were the same bunch who performed in IPL Too much money, too much glamour......

I hope this is not the beginning of times, where players don't want to play for their own country, like in MBA or NHL, because of money.....

Posted by Falahat on (May 12, 2010, 4:19 GMT)

Hellooo DEPPTHA T20!!When you are gonna except the SLns doing excellent?Excellent job has been continuing since 1996 against India. Indians all about to talk about No.1 & predicting the wins before any match starts by the assumptions and calculation. But finally, leading to nothing!!I have seen during the match that they posted "India must restrict SL 143 to enter semis" but, never posted SL needs 144 to enter the Semis. Every time & every match the discrimination continuing against SL by the Indians where mostly Indians are working in these broadcasting companies.

Posted by TheOnlyEmperor on (May 12, 2010, 4:18 GMT)

Don't blame India... They preferred "class over form". They never once thought at addressing individual weaknesses to improve team performance. Karthik instead of Vijay? Yuvraj instead of Robin? Piyush instead of Ashwin? The bowlers don't bowl yorkers. The batsmen don't improvise. Slog hitting is left to the last min for somebody else. They field bad. Their body language sucks. They live in denial that they need attitudinal training. The Indian audience listen to 3rd rate cricket analysis on live tv and in the news media. I don't see a single sign of intelligence in the Indian bowlers. Bhajji and Zaheer threw their wkts against Aus when Rohit was going great guns. It's that deficit that cost India its place in the semis. Wait ! - the wkt was 2 paced - slow for India and easy for SL when they played their last 10!!! Maybe Indian cricket should borrow some grey cells from Vish Anand on handling "pressure". Ultimately, incompetence breeds pressure! Face it!

Posted by karthikrao on (May 12, 2010, 4:17 GMT)

Team India knocked out bcoz of wrong selections. Irfan Pathan & Robin Uthappa should have been selected in place of Murali Vijay and Piyush Chawla. Team dearly missed Virender Sehwag. My 15 for India's ICC World Cup 2011 will be: 1. Dhoni. 2. Sachin. 3. Gambhir. 4. Sehwag. 5. Raina. 6. Yuvraj. 7. Robin Uthappa. 8. Yusuf Pathan. 9. Irfan Pathan. 10. Zaheer Khan. 11. Ashish Nehra. 12. Harbhajan Singh. 13. Rohit Sharma. 14. R Vinay Kumar. 15. Praveen Kumar.

While the team for every match should be Dhoni, Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Robin, Yuvraj, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Nehra, Irfan Pathan, Vinay Kumar/Yusuf Pathan

What say u guys????? M I Right or not???

Posted by Rakesh_Sharma on (May 12, 2010, 4:13 GMT)

"Now that they are top of the tree in Test cricket the BCCI is trying to arrange Test series left, right and centre so they can retain the mantle" It is strange India is at the top. India does not have good bowlers. How can they be no.1. This is possible when Top teams get weakened due to mass departures of their established players and it takes some time to get replacement. This has been the case with West Indies, Australia, England, South Africa, where pool of players is negligible compared to India. 95% of the support for Cricket is in India. Huge population, Huge pool of Cricketers. Can easily replace any player of playing XI and still have the same standard.( If there is a scale of Quality) than Indian team has been always between 6 to 7 on the scale of 10. However WI of 80s was clearly 9.5 on the scale of 10.Australia was around 9 on the scale of 10 when they were number 1 as well. So when the team quality of opposition has weakened India gets a feeling of being a good team.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:11 GMT)

When sehwag got injured india shoud have tried to get sachin into the side. Uthapa should be there. They also need more bowlers in the side. Where is that talll off spinner who played for chennai super kings ?

Posted by Xahir on (May 12, 2010, 4:10 GMT)

I think no matter how much scored India would have made, they never looked like defending it, frankly speaking India's bowling line up is worst among not only in top 8 teams but all the 12 teams and you are not expected to win matches with such bowling line up!

Posted by yogikanna on (May 12, 2010, 4:09 GMT)

India should stop playing and hosting the IPL. It has seriously brought down the indian cricketing standards. Playing on flat batting tracks against mediocre bowling and fielding, and in short boundaries, has inflated the already big egos of Indian batsmen.

However when they go out and play on seaming tracks against quality bowling and fielding attacks, they are brought back to earth crashing down. In order to gain status as a real champion team, India needs to win consistently in foreign countries and on seaming tracks, and not just on flat tracks.

Getting rid of IPL seriously needs to be consdiered, so that the players can focus on playing more quality cricket against quality teams.

Posted by JustIPL on (May 12, 2010, 4:04 GMT)

It is a fact that India is the birth place of T20 and all the teams have benefitted by IPL and ICL. India can easily win this tournament if they they select team based on a national competition and not from ICL/IPL. Most of the IPL talent has not proved to be effective and ICL talent is not considered for selection. Their self confidence will improve if they come from a national competetion and they will have the feeling of being the best available talent. Sri Lankan structure is the best for India to follow. Foreign coaches have been good for India and have helped them get the top spot in tests and they can also help in getting India to the top of T20s. Andrew Symonds can be an excellenet choice for limited overs cricket coach.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 4:04 GMT)

India is highly inconsistent and the hype that goes around the team is hurting it very much before the start of every tournament. First get rid of those build-ups and unnecessary attention. Things will fall into place. We are in every aspects mimicking England. Such a shame we didn't play well. Very much a deserving loss.

Posted by short-fine-leg on (May 12, 2010, 4:04 GMT)

I am truly confused by the disappointment of so many fans. What else did you expect out of this team? India is currently on top of test and ODI rankings because the team is a shadow of Fabulous Five (Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman & Kumble). Without them, India can do very little on the big stage. This might well be the future of Indian cricket when all 5 of them retire (half of them already have). The least Indian team must do is to win the 2011 world cup for Sachin. That is the only fitting tribute to the man so has contributed so much to Indian cricket and Indians' lives. Amen!

Posted by Praneeth_Prasad on (May 12, 2010, 4:01 GMT)

Team Ind succumbs when it matters the most and this loss is no big difference to that. This is not the best 15 players that India can play and even Dhoni and the rest of the world knows it. India team selections had always been based on names and not based on their current form.India's top order batsman might had been the world's number 1 test player in recent past but he looked totally out of sorts in IPL and why do selectors still pick him when IPL had many batters who were in form. Tough to understand when there were 3 top quality spinners in form and team picks another one who doesn't even come close to them when it points to recent form. It is rather disgusting to see team loss due to the same reason from the last world cup -- short pitched stuf.. If BCCI is a financial power house why dont they start preparing good pitches and prepare the players in it but all they can do now it seems is reschedule all big events to India so that our so called talented players can survive.

Posted by cricdeep on (May 12, 2010, 4:01 GMT)

Dhoni needs to be commended for having acknowledged that IPL parties have hurt the team. Along with this Modi's king sized ego has also got into some of the players. Contrary to what everyone believed, the IPL was a bane rather than a boon atleast as far as the performances of the players on the field are concerned. The saddest part is that in their next inconsequential tour to zimbabwe, they will redeem themselves and become super heroes again.

Posted by kaarthik9925 on (May 12, 2010, 4:00 GMT)

But what to do. You cannot send an inexperienced team to the world cup.T20 format is very deceptive format.But I think Yusuf Pathan who did not merit selection at all was picked.Same with Murali Vijay. Just bcoz of his 127 against RR he was picked ahead of Robin Uthappa.But this not the end of road for India. They have got Tri series in zim , they can win even with an inexperienced side.They have got good players to win the tri series. They have to improve and be consistent on bowling front.Dont understand why Piyush was picked ahead of Amit Mishra and Ojha.Their fielding standards should be improved. And Yuvraj Must not play a single game until he is fully match fit.He is not SRT that he can pose a threat even bieng half fit.Good rest for seniors.Finally the IPL crap must be limited or should not take place at all.To add to the woes 94 matches from next time.Instead make ur domestic Ranji sides play the champions league from next year

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 3:56 GMT)

Worst Captain Seen In My Life.... Dhoni cant help India To Win Big Tournament.. He Is Selfish in selecting Team, such a Bad Team Selection, Kick Him Out he is Useless.. He spoiled our dreams...

Praying For Sachin To Help us To Lift World Cup... Without Sachin we cant Win Big Games In Any Format... Our team Needs Responsible Player Like Sachin, Jammy,Dada..

Posted by searrp on (May 12, 2010, 3:50 GMT)

Oh please Mr.Dhoni, this is not the best team India could have sent to the event. Vijay and Karthik are there only because they speak the same language as the chief selector. Where were Amit Mishra and Robin Uthappa? Yusuf has never proven himself on the international scene. You did not play Vinay on the pacy pitch in Barbados and left out Piyush against WI. Are you dense? What is Mr.Kirsten doing as a coach? This is the second consecutive time your team has been bounced out from a world tournament. Even president Bush would have said .."Fool me twice, shame on me!" After getting Chennai to semi's in the IPL you said you owe it to the franchise for paying you so much. What about how much all of you owe to India and the fans that keep following you? Is playing for the country secondary now? 0-3 in the super 8. What a shame.

Posted by vinciyaaron on (May 12, 2010, 3:50 GMT)

Plain and simple..........indian team has tasted da money. Why care for world cup.....when your bank balance is in crores. Same for the selectors............get Uthappa. He Rocks. Learn from the Aussies........Quality always wins in the end. Learn from Tendulkar.........Solid hard work pays. As a cricket fan I always view cricket like life.........Hard work and good behaviour pays in the long run. Yuvi needs to hit rock bottom before he improves.....Rehab may help.

Posted by searrp on (May 12, 2010, 3:48 GMT)

Oh please Mr.Dhoni, this is not the best team India could have sent to the event. Vijay and Karthik are there only because they speak the same language as the chief selector. Where were Amit Mishra and Robin Uthappa? Yusuf has never proven himself on the international scene. You did not play Vinay on the pacy pitch in Barbados and left out Piyush against WI. Are you dense? What is Mr.Kirsten doing as a coach? This is the second consecutive time your team has been bounced out from a world tournament. Even president Bush would have said .."Fool me twice, shame on me!" After getting Chennai to semi's in the IPL you said you owe it to the franchise for paying you so much. What about how much all of you owe to India and the fans that keep following you? Is playing for the country secondary now? 0-3 in the super 8. What a shame.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 3:48 GMT)

Lets be honest Team India is famous only due to Marketing. Ive always said Team India is way tooo Hyped with the exception of Handful proper player. Rest of the team is just famous due to Indian Marketing. Lot of talks not too much performance. Better luck next tournament. Oh , Hats off to Sri Lanka, time and time again they have proven to be a very competitive team in an international tournament. Its just a game theres always next year. It makes me wonder India is such a huge nation with so much diversity and cultures, Still they have hard time producing pace bowlers. Better luck next T20 tournament. Stop Hating support my un professional JOKERS for the finals.. Go Pakistan repeat history again and bring back that cup home.

Posted by GopaGB on (May 12, 2010, 3:47 GMT)

Come On People..!! Its time to accept IPL is hitting directly on the Indian Cricket Team. Its all about mindset of the players.For last 2 months...Dhoni.. Yuvi.. Bhajji played against each other (that even with the highest level of spirit..) and now all are put on the same side and asked to play and win. Cricket is a TEAM game, a team needs to be formed, but all what we can see on Indian side is the bunch of players and not a Team. Isn't is obvious from the number of Runout chances in the game against SA and Ind while Raina and Yuvi were batting. Give Mahi and other players time to gel as a team before asking for results.

Posted by Saichandm on (May 12, 2010, 3:46 GMT)

Dhoni's tactics are questionable many a times. Taking responsibility doesn't always mean trying to do everything yourself. It means, as a captain, finding the right people for the job and assigning them. Instead of he promoting himself up the order, he should have promoted Rohit up the order. His innings of 24 of 19 balls was poor in fact pathetic considering those were death overs.

He costed India the last world cup in England with some poor knocks (12 runs of 23 etc) and he did it again here. Somehow these don't get noticed.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 3:40 GMT)

@chokkashokka such a scheme will not work now with the IPL delivering a lot more cash than the players could ever earn by playing international cricket. The incentive is to perform domestically in IPL to get fatter contracts. If they don't take pride in playing for the country and losing a big tourney by giving a hapless performance is "just another loss" then nothing much can be done about it.

Posted by nexus-7 on (May 12, 2010, 3:32 GMT)

More than 1 billion population, and they can't find a few good bowlers ? lol. Very disappointing! I suspect if these selectors are involved in Corruption/Favoritism ..?

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 3:32 GMT)

IPL will obviously not affect you...because of the money....yeah MR DHONI...yes INDIA is a big nation and cricket is our religion ...For GOD sake you are expected to win and perform...what do you mean we already are under so much of pressure.and you are expected to win everytime..of course..if you won the last three worldcups we will think that..ok may be better luck next time ...but you know better how indian team performed...YOU ARE EXPECTED TO WIN...BCCI is one of the richest and you for GOD sake are one of the highest paid cricketers....BCCI please tame INdian players on time otherwise....no bode in INDIA will watch cricket anymore or support INdia anymore....AND one more thing before WORLD CUPs Indian team shoul be together and planning against players and other teams...But I seriously think something is not right within the players

Posted by Anil_Koshy on (May 12, 2010, 3:27 GMT)

Its high time that India should think about its selection policy. We have given too many chances to mediocre players like Yousuf Pathan, Ravinder Jadeja & Dinesh Karthik. Jadeja is still young and can come up but Pathan and Karthik have never performed in international matches. Both of them should be kicked out.

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 3:21 GMT)

TEAMS like Australia and i am very impressed with ENGLAND this time...they learn from previous mistakes and never say OOOO wel Batting is our strenght or Bowling is our strength ....we were outplayed..thwy executed their plans well against us...WELL this what INDIA had to say last time...what did they do...PLAY IPL....the player before going into such a big tournament are playing against eachother and not making a stragey for different teams...BCCI stop pretending that your eyes are closed..WELL INDIAN GREATS LIKE RAVI and GAVSKAR should step in here rather than commentating in the Box..i think DHONI has some attitude problem seriousl...Gambhir not performing as he used to..he is not enjoying his time...Yuvraj for sure..something is wrong with him...and Sehwag we all know...and now i think its with ZAHEER ....i would just like to say to BCCI the fans are not foolish and if you have the brain we have it too.....

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 3:14 GMT)

Hahaha...India is OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!....Feels so great!!!....c'mon ind fans...dont cry!..atleat ur team now have the title "MOST OVERRATED TEAM IN THE WORLD"..

Posted by Naren on (May 12, 2010, 3:14 GMT)

It baffles me why they could not open with Rohit Sharma instead of Karthik. He seems to be the man in form and not using him was not a sound decision.

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 3:14 GMT)

NO EXCUSES...if other teams can learn from their mistake why not INDIA...what did they learn from last years ICC 20-20 defeat ...NOthing but what did they learn from last years IPL...you know whai i am talking about guys..BCCI says it is good to play IPL because the boys are charged up and in 20-20 mode and they get to know foreign players well....but i think this what is playing to International teams hands...their weaknesses but the best Example is YUSUF and YUVRAJ..Indias two big hitters and buff what a tournament.With yuvraj's Body language you can say he doesnot want to be in the team anymore...when sehwag missed out DHONI said VIJAY is in great form we wont miss Sehwag...arr..i think we all saw who SEHWAG is?and i dont think it would have done wonders to Sehwag's personality.MR COOL stop thinking the way you think rather taking everyone through.I think BCCI should be tough on this now but they are too BUSY with MONEY MAKING MESS....

Posted by mars2009 on (May 12, 2010, 3:13 GMT)

Dear Indian Pals, there is a serious problem. Before the start of any cricketing event all Indian start thinking themselves winner of the event.

This is the third ICC event in a row where India fails to reach in the final four.

Time to think about so much hyped cricketers.

Posted by Farukafaj on (May 12, 2010, 3:09 GMT)

Indians are loosers. go India go India, go back home.

Posted by gopi_sehwag on (May 12, 2010, 3:08 GMT)

anothere early exit...over confidence cost us.as clarke said.in this formate bowelr's can win the match.but as per india they used 3 specialist bowelers and believed our batsman..but they couldn't click it.. india also missed sehwag and utthapa.i think instead of jadeja we could select irfan.anyway this this s right time for dhoni and selectors to select good and technically sound person.because 2011 world cup on the way.oterwise india will face another early exit.anyway good luck for other teams... hope aus vs eng final....

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 3:07 GMT)

Dhoni just accept the defeat and agree you people never seemed lik winning at all dont give lame excuses and now say that ipl is main effect ..........may god only help us in the world cup yiou people never seemed like a winning team in this series the only thing i liked in this series is deserved team went through 2 semis ......u people just looked like bunch of loosers whoo want 2 party everyday........its so sad in seeing the tyeam perform lik this

Posted by Uchistha on (May 12, 2010, 3:05 GMT)

Common Guys....what is going on here....Mr Dhoni ie trying to say that INDIAN fans are FOOLS...they dont undesratand a thing...After he elimination HE is saying they executed their plans well...WHAT abt yours Mr Dhoni.....why does he come up with the same lame excuse all the time...tHEY outplayed us ...BAtting is our Strength...God i am sick and tired of hearing this...IS India an international team or Some Gully cricket team...For international cricket you should be GOOD in all three departments....everytime INDIA lost ...he said batting is our strenght we dint bat well...what about bowling man it is equally important...He always says IPL has nothing to do with it...did anyone see the intensity he played with when he won against PUNJAB...he punched himself...but here HE IS MR. COOL... i am not blaming him he is a good captain...but i think he is got some attitude problem with senior players..Common INDIA we living outside INDIA are facing enough embarrassment because of you guys

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 2:56 GMT)

I think lack of confidence hurt India...30 runs short like good start in first 10 overs...90/1 & after that only 73/4....really hurt India...& in when bowled gud start by Nehra & R Vinay but in Last 3 overs 44 runs...amazing SL...if India set target like 200 or +200 then India easy enter for the Semi's..but now thats all...Gud Luck for ICC World Cup 2011 .....

Posted by boris6491 on (May 12, 2010, 2:56 GMT)

I don't believe they have any excuses. They played poorly all through the Super 8s and their frailty against the short ball couldn't be more apparent when they came back to St Lucia and suddenly found it easier to score. The fact that they all played in the IPL was something they shared with many players and teams in this tournament which are doing well and hence the common 'exhaustion' excuse is not valid. I think they really need to rethink the makeup of this side and begin to include players based on performance rather than reputation (applicable in particular to Yuvraj and Yusuf, both of whom didn't have IPLs to write home about and the inability to score at international level exposed for the latter).

Posted by nag88 on (May 12, 2010, 2:56 GMT)

Dear MS, I have one disagreement with what you said, I am afraid these are not the best 15 players in India , just take the just finished IPL as a reference and see howmany of the top 10 run getters are in your squad? excluding sachin and ganguly they are still at the top you have hardly 3 out of the 9 10, they need to be given a chance to prove, with YKPathan not of any international standard being given so much lift and chances these top IPL players need a chance, think it over my friend

Posted by deepthaT20 on (May 12, 2010, 2:56 GMT)

i think its high time India realize that Sri Lanka is a much better team when it comes to handling pressure. How unprofessional team they are, is shown from team selection to running between wickets and I suggest they should learn basics of cricket again if they want to have any success in future. Sri Lanka seems to be doing a good job ( not excellent) at the moment except one SSeniorJJoker and wish them good luck against England !!!!

Posted by M.H.Akram on (May 12, 2010, 2:55 GMT)

Fine Performance from Sri Lanka. Good luck with the Match with England by the way ...Poor india loosing again...they only have BIG talks...i think they r on the way to home now.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 2:50 GMT)

Feeling sorry for Dhoni. Well played India.

Posted by chokkashokka on (May 12, 2010, 2:48 GMT)

The way I see it, the administrators need to address the early exits in a proactive manner. I still don't understand why the Boards have not embraced a heavily incentive-based compensation structure for the players. Every professional sports organization worth his salt has had performance and personal conduct built into player contracts - why doesn't cricket have one? The Boards may need to act in unison on this one - get the dialog going with the player unions and get this done. A simple base compensation with progressive incentivised pay-off for reaching certain stages of a tournament/series. The milestones should be collective - ie team based such as team's winning percentage etc.

Posted by PrinceTN on (May 12, 2010, 2:44 GMT)

I was very disappointed with Indian bowling and batting. I thought India would post 180+ or 200 to defend the score and make into semi-final. the score we posted wasnt enough, and the last 5 overs we lost the plot and Sri Lanka on wining edge. We got to learn about Short balls and how play in various pitches. from now, India has to prepare well for a World Cup on home soil.. But, failure on next year world cup won't be tolerated....So, the Selection for Indian team should be proper selections and every players has to do at it.

IPL caused TW20 world cup for India not playing properly. IPL is all about money.........

Posted by Vkarthik on (May 12, 2010, 2:42 GMT)

Excellent summarization of India's seriousness in the T20. I strongly disagree with Dhoni's statement of "This is the best 15". Sehwag is not playing. Uthappa literally toyed with all the Australian fast bowlers even on bouncier Bangalore pitch. He was not picked because he was not in the squad. All those who were picked for World T20 were big failures in the IPL. Only Vijay and Raina did well in the IPL. Vijay is a rookie for T20 even at the franchise level. Raina is the only one who crossed 200 runs for the team. Rest of them were mediocre in IPL. Mediocre in world T20 also. It is very very important to pick players who are in form. Yuvraj was dreadful in IPL. He is only a shadow of himself these days putting on so much weight.

Posted by Sanj747 on (May 12, 2010, 2:41 GMT)

Once again the inability to deliver in the big stage. Indian and SAF suffer from the same disease but at the same time feel comfortable in calling themselves number 1 in the world. High time this being number 1 talk stops. India is supposedly the number 1 team in test cricket. SAF also thought they were the best. What a laugh. Big teams perform when it matters and let the rankings take care of itself. India and SAF are not big teams unfortunately for the moment.

Posted by rambala13 on (May 12, 2010, 2:38 GMT)

First of all, I would like to say that IPL has affected Indian team rather than helping the team. This is so because it is such a long tournament that has been played by the team with lots of strain. Immediately after that, this T20 WC has started. This has really jolted the player's stamina in general. But most disturbing fact is that India shows consistency in losing the matches rather than in winning matches. That is, in last year 2009, India reached comfortably to Super 8 stage and over there, they lost all 3 matches and returned home. The same is the case in 2010 also. Only the opponents are different in 2009 & 2010. This leaves a lot to be decided. To put it in a nutshell, India does not have the habit of winning matches of late. It is really disturbing for the ardent cricket lovers.

Ram

Posted by 11Noobs on (May 12, 2010, 2:37 GMT)

The curatros in India have to be blamed for not preparing bouncy pitches. I don't know if it's India's climate, but they seriously have to do sometihng about the pitches in India to allow pace and bounce.

I feel for Srikanth, he's going to get a whole lot of stick now even thought he didn't do anything wrong for the selection of the T20 WC. Let me add that Uthappa was injured and Jadeja did reasonably well against South Africa in the ODIs.

Posted by Dejected_Indian_Fan on (May 12, 2010, 2:32 GMT)

Let us admit it guys. After playing in IPL, this team is mentally and physically tired. A team that cannot win against the lowly West Indies do not deserve to be in the semi finals. Good luck to Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Australia and England. They earned it, though I think Pakistan's presence is purely lucky as SA and NZ lost with bigger margins to get their NRR lower than Pakistan's. Having said that poor Pakistan didn't deserve to lose against NZ in the last ball. So everything evens out I guess. I predict a Pak-SL final.

Posted by Bang_La on (May 12, 2010, 2:28 GMT)

Hope Sharad Powar can make the office order, being ICC president, that India shall play all their cricket matches on Indian pitches. This is the only way India can prove that they are the world class! Right? :)

Posted by sunny33012000 on (May 12, 2010, 2:07 GMT)

I think India is playing too much cricket, and it clearly shows , its getting to the players too. India, Australia, England, SA play more cricket than the rest of the remaining test nations. Now it is a really good time to regulate test match cricket, and ODI's so that all the test playing nations will play the same amount of cricket during a two year time gap. ICC tried to force this in a previous case, but failed due to the cricketing giants didn't agreed on this. But now i think the time has come to regulate this concept, in order to save the crickets, and also not to overdose cricket.

Posted by Joji_ on (May 12, 2010, 2:06 GMT)

Well to start things off, Indians were one of the most hyped teams coming into the tournament (Including SA). They do have a mighty batting line up but almost no one really clicked. Their bowling attack which had been historically weak was downright pathetic during the whole season. I don't see any one other than harbajan singh to bowl for india on an international stage. Rest assured I will connect youtube and watch the next IPL watching you guys thrashing petty club bowlers on slow murderous pity indian pitches. You guys look there !!

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 1:58 GMT)

Probably there needs to be a better process set-up alike Australia to produce better bowlers / batsman. Also I am trying to find answers to understand why true and sportive pitches are not being prepared in the country. This will help produce better bowlers and batsmen. If short ball is the problem, why is the root cause not being addressed but rather wait for an event of the stature of T20 WC or ICC WC to identify the issue? As a team and as BCCI are we learning anything and addressing the root issues or the BCCI is simply sitting blind? It was utterly dismal and pathetic performance. More than the short ball, the captaincy left a lot to be desired.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 1:57 GMT)

The observation about the talent being thinly spread through the IPL is further reinforced by the results of the Champions League where two Australian teams contested the final. Quality is better guaranteed by restricting the competition to 6 state terms vs however many IPL franchises (that's right - I don't know and I don't care enough to look it up). In my opinion English cricket suffers from much the same problem with the county system - but that's a tale for another time.

Posted by SavvyCanadian on (May 12, 2010, 1:55 GMT)

India should stop the IPL Tamasha immediately. It has done more harm than good to the Indian cricket. The kind of filthy cash that they earn in IPL makes them little interested or motivated to play for peanuts they get in World Cup Tournaments. India should prepare bouncy pitches and put fresh team in for batting against short-pitched bowling ....Consider Rayudu, S Tiwari, Umesh Yadav, Irfan Pathan, Robin Uthappa, Sehwag and discard tired & jaded Yuvraj, Dhoni, Gambhir, Zahir Khan, Nehra, and other jokers from the current team.

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 1:52 GMT)

Feel sorry for such a talented bunch of individuals. In reality, BCCI should plan tours sensibly in that the players should have appropriate rest. Back-to-back travel and cricket can cause a lot of fatigue and this is exactly what has happened.

Hopefully, India would show some character in the 2011 World Cup as they are, alongside Australia, one of the serious contenders for the trophy on home soil.

Posted by JPB334 on (May 12, 2010, 1:48 GMT)

I am not at all surprised by the early exit of India. What else do you expect of an overcrowded 3rd world country. The IPL would be nothing without overseas stars.

Posted by Harry0009 on (May 12, 2010, 1:46 GMT)

I don't see this Indian team going anywhere in the future. The team has not even tried enough to qualify for semis in the past 3 major ICC events. And quote my words - "This team will follow a first round exit in WC 2011". Neither we have bowlers nor batsman who have the passion and will to perform when it matters. The performance of the entire team in super8s has been questionable.

Dhoni keeps giving lame excuses. Additionally IPL is not a blessing in disguise rather just simply killing Indian cricket. It's simply a money spinning league where the talent that we see are more than exaggerated than anything else. Even SL, and Pak have rose to the occasion when needed.

Winning as a team is what matters than playing to the potential. There's no use playing to the potential and losing the match. Also, we Indians probably give more importance to numbers than the performances on the field. That's why we see a SRT sitting right there at the top.

Posted by Hiteshdevilliers on (May 12, 2010, 1:44 GMT)

This just further reinforces my HATE for the IPL. The Indian batsmen have obviously become pampered to the flat pitches they have played on for the last 45 days in the IPL. Fast track to Barbados, and as expected, these batsmen cannot handle the pace and bounce. And guess what guys: BCCI (that money chasing cricket board) have plans to extend the IPL calender next season onwards. Who's betting on India crashing out without making it to the Super 8's in the next tournament??

Posted by vaidyar on (May 12, 2010, 1:42 GMT)

The problem's not the IPL. IPL before or after they would still have failed. Batsmen just lacked the capability to play pace/bounce. Yuvraj Singh and yusuf Pathan cut a sorry figure in almost all the matches. It's time to give Yuvi a break and look ahead. Yusuf Pathan has clear issues at the non-IPL level. Maybe time to look at the other Pathan. Raina, though clearly clueless in pitches which do something, does show some promise and might actually work on his technique and come good. He should be persisted with. What about Dhoni, the captain himself? I wouldn't put my money on him when the pitch does something, but he's got the attitude to get going no matter where with his limited resources when it comes to technique. Sehwag was badly missed, while Gambhir had a moderate tournament, while Rohit Sharma is probably the only one who comes out with an enhanced image. The bowling, Bhajji's done well, while the pacers really scuked. Vinay Kumar showed some promise in his first outing.

Posted by nopain27 on (May 12, 2010, 1:40 GMT)

the heartache is not because of the loss. its because it was a gutless performance once again. not one of the 11 players had the mental strength to raise to the occasion. i cant help but think that they all take ipl more seriously than playing for india. maybe because ipl=money. you can tell by the pathetic body language that they have no heart to fight. i am a big fan of dhoni and yuvraj but both have disappointed with their lacksidisal attitude. team india is a failure and dhoni needs to get the biggest blame. i know ipl is not the same as world cup but why choose players[yousuf pathan, goutham gambhir etc] who are not in form in ipl. will they miraculously lift their game in world cup? i feel that players like saurabh tiwari, ambati rayudu, uttappa who showed heart and talent would have served india better. selecting and persisting with jadeja was a joke and he proved to be one. and why cant we produce bowlers who can bowl consistently more than 140km/hr? pak can and why cant we?

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 1:35 GMT)

Nation cheif selection team and captain should accept the failure and should resign if they really respect their job as well 1 billion people

Posted by   on (May 12, 2010, 1:32 GMT)

sorry dhoni you can go back and learn, We were outplayed the last time around and you guys didn't go back and overcome your shortcomings. I really don't see our test team getting anywhere with the retirement of Dravid Laxman and Sachin looming. God help them

Posted by Deenesh on (May 12, 2010, 1:29 GMT)

Failure Failure Failure. What else have they failed at? Thier home and away series record over the last 2 years is excellent. Ranked number one in test cricket and number 2 in ODI's. India are still the best that they have ever been. Sure all the fans expect a perfect team, but India is almost close to perfect, and we should recognise that they cant beoutstanding all the time. Compared to how India used to perform 5 years ago, we should be thankful. Thier performance here was due to the IPL being so close to the tournament. It was the same case in the last one, and they should just look to seperate these two events. Probably play some ODI's in the middle. As for the upcoming world Cup, I think they have a pretty realistic chance of winning it, alongside Aus, SA and possibly SL. If they dont make the semi's there, then its cause for concern. until then, bear up.

Posted by bharathere on (May 12, 2010, 1:24 GMT)

Simply saying, India did not deserve a spot in the semi-finals. I believe it's going to be an England V Australia Final where Australia is going to prevail. Should be a good match though!!

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