New cricket order May 8, 2008

The genius and the dirt of IPL

The genius of the Indian Premier League is not only has it created an international buzz, but it has also opened up a whole new world of possibilities for cricket
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The genius of the Indian Premier League is not only has it created an international buzz, but it has also opened up a whole new world of possibilities for cricket. Let’s be clear, the Indian Premier League has hijacked the original idea of the Indian Cricket League and ground its competitor into the dirt. The current formula is problematic, mainly because of the sheer volume of matches crammed into too many weeks.

The execution, however, is a different matter to the concept, and indeed there have been many positives, not least the colour and glitz of each T20 spectacle. Indian fans have enthused about suddenly flung together teams and Indian cricketers have seized an opportunity to shine on a different kind of international stage.

Other countries have fared less well, however. Pakistan’s players have mostly struggled to make an impression on the tournament, which must be some reflection of the quality of Pakistan’s current team. Shoaib Malik and Co can’t even claim to be overworked. If the PCB has any sense it will learn that its own players have much to do to match many of their leading international counterparts. Pakistan fans can only hope that the Packer effect of raising international standards also applies to Pakistan players and the IPL.

The second lesson the PCB should learn from the success of the IPL is that the idea of a Pakistan Premier League is an absolute folly. Why consider a tournament that can only be a pale imitation of the IPL? It might be an idea to revisit when Pakistan’s team is strong again and the country’s cricket is flourishing, but not yet.

Yet the verdict on Pakistan’s own tournament should not be the same as the many other ideas that have sprung up around the world, especially in England. The prerequisites for an IPL-imitator are a strong cricketing infrastructure that provides for fans and fills stadiums, an attractive and lucrative location for international stars, and sponsorship and that will invigorate and fuel the tournament. England, like India and Australia has all these ingredients.

And this is how the IPL –or should we say ICL—has created a whole new genre of cricket. The formula and execution still require more work but any product that produces such an instant global buzz and immediate imitators must have an exciting future—until, of course, the next brilliant idea comes along and grinds today’s crumb of genius into the dirt.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • MumSuigRomiurovigh on December 10, 2009, 22:57 GMT

    ...please where can I buy a unicorn?

  • Mehdi Hasan on June 13, 2008, 4:37 GMT

    Dear Ashraf

    How can you make Shoaib the captain who is not a certainity in the test team as I think. Answer me if you can if Shoaib fits in the Test 11. No way man no way..........Please dont destroy the team

  • Ipl rules on June 3, 2008, 13:03 GMT

    its a buisness, look at multi billion dollar leagues such as MLB(major league baseball), NBA(basketball), NFL(american football)... its amazing that some cricket fans still don't believe in moving forward.. look at the fans ipl has attracted lots of young crowd, test cricket is a dying game, only the purist love it.. no one has time to spend 10 hrs a day watching a test match in this fast paced world.

    and secondly pakistani players in IPL, with exception of Tanvir, all the other pakistani players were a flop... Pakistan's 1-down batsman younis khan only played 1 or 2 games , which i found hilarious, Pakistan captain Shoab malik was worse than some u19 Indian players .. Deccans and Devils should just buy out afridis/Maliks contracts and not re-sign them for next season, let them sign with ICL so they can all play with the "Badshahs"

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on June 3, 2008, 3:13 GMT

    From the liveliness to the lethargy of Pak Spin.

    Kamran I have never seen you so lethargic, whats wrong? 24 days and the last 6 comments have been updated@www.snail.speed.com and that too one at a time with a space of 3-4 days? tsk, tsk, tsk.

    I suggest you to write something on Pakistan's team selection for tri-series where Malik Tutankhamen has tried his best to keep Shahid Afridi away from the team on poor performance in the IPL and wanted Mansoor Amjad as his replacement. He has the audacity and the cheekiness to demand such a thing as if he himself has scored 600 plus runs and got the orange cap! Malik scored 51 runs & took 2 wickets, whereas Afridi scored 82 runs & took 9 wickets. There is no need to compare the mediocre performance of both. But, this Meesna Malik who has this gums hum to demand such a thing from the selectors needs to be shown the facts and that too like a slap on his face.

  • kris on June 2, 2008, 20:18 GMT

    There is a lot of needless India-Pak bashing going around. People who like to discuss politics kindly go elsewhere. This blog is to enjoy and discuss cricketing issues for everybody. Coming to the IPL issue, PCB should use this opportunity to negotiate with BCCI and benchmark 1 slot in every IPL team for an upcoming U-19/U-21 Pakistan player. In fact this should be extended to upcoming players from all the 4 subcontinental teams. This will improve the quality of all the subcontinental teams. This is the best opportunity for any youngster to play against the best in business.

  • Aditya Mookerjee on June 1, 2008, 15:17 GMT

    Mr Abbasi, long has been the wait for the next installment of 'Pak Spin'. When is the next one due?

  • Omer Admani on May 29, 2008, 21:16 GMT

    The PCB might look forward to make Akram Coach. What do you think, good move or not? I personally think that is the best thing that could happen to Pak cricket right now.

  • Anil on May 28, 2008, 0:48 GMT

    Man you s... Pakistan players rocked the IPL. Look at Sohail Tanvir and Umer Gul. Also other players performed decently depending upon the chances they got

  • Faridoon on May 25, 2008, 11:35 GMT

    Rizzy Khan, chill dude, don't crucify me. This is not something that I have "come up with just to cause controversy". It's just something I heard and wanted to know if there was any truth to it or if anyone else heard the same.

    It is, however, surprisingly pleasant to know that there are still true Shoaib fans out there like Rizzy willing to give him another chance and not asking for his head for every rumor they hear.

    For the sake of Pakistan Cricket and all Shoaib fans I do hope that he does only have a knee injury and nothing more; even though the Knight Riders are pretty much out of the tournament.

  • INDIAN_DRAGON on May 22, 2008, 10:29 GMT

    I don't agree with SACHIN FAN(FLORIDA) that tests and ODIs will become obsolete. I am an Indian, and after watching almost every match of IPL for 1 month, I was watching the test match(Eng/NZ) more than IPL matches in those days. I think the test was more Interesting in the first few days.

  • MumSuigRomiurovigh on December 10, 2009, 22:57 GMT

    ...please where can I buy a unicorn?

  • Mehdi Hasan on June 13, 2008, 4:37 GMT

    Dear Ashraf

    How can you make Shoaib the captain who is not a certainity in the test team as I think. Answer me if you can if Shoaib fits in the Test 11. No way man no way..........Please dont destroy the team

  • Ipl rules on June 3, 2008, 13:03 GMT

    its a buisness, look at multi billion dollar leagues such as MLB(major league baseball), NBA(basketball), NFL(american football)... its amazing that some cricket fans still don't believe in moving forward.. look at the fans ipl has attracted lots of young crowd, test cricket is a dying game, only the purist love it.. no one has time to spend 10 hrs a day watching a test match in this fast paced world.

    and secondly pakistani players in IPL, with exception of Tanvir, all the other pakistani players were a flop... Pakistan's 1-down batsman younis khan only played 1 or 2 games , which i found hilarious, Pakistan captain Shoab malik was worse than some u19 Indian players .. Deccans and Devils should just buy out afridis/Maliks contracts and not re-sign them for next season, let them sign with ICL so they can all play with the "Badshahs"

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on June 3, 2008, 3:13 GMT

    From the liveliness to the lethargy of Pak Spin.

    Kamran I have never seen you so lethargic, whats wrong? 24 days and the last 6 comments have been updated@www.snail.speed.com and that too one at a time with a space of 3-4 days? tsk, tsk, tsk.

    I suggest you to write something on Pakistan's team selection for tri-series where Malik Tutankhamen has tried his best to keep Shahid Afridi away from the team on poor performance in the IPL and wanted Mansoor Amjad as his replacement. He has the audacity and the cheekiness to demand such a thing as if he himself has scored 600 plus runs and got the orange cap! Malik scored 51 runs & took 2 wickets, whereas Afridi scored 82 runs & took 9 wickets. There is no need to compare the mediocre performance of both. But, this Meesna Malik who has this gums hum to demand such a thing from the selectors needs to be shown the facts and that too like a slap on his face.

  • kris on June 2, 2008, 20:18 GMT

    There is a lot of needless India-Pak bashing going around. People who like to discuss politics kindly go elsewhere. This blog is to enjoy and discuss cricketing issues for everybody. Coming to the IPL issue, PCB should use this opportunity to negotiate with BCCI and benchmark 1 slot in every IPL team for an upcoming U-19/U-21 Pakistan player. In fact this should be extended to upcoming players from all the 4 subcontinental teams. This will improve the quality of all the subcontinental teams. This is the best opportunity for any youngster to play against the best in business.

  • Aditya Mookerjee on June 1, 2008, 15:17 GMT

    Mr Abbasi, long has been the wait for the next installment of 'Pak Spin'. When is the next one due?

  • Omer Admani on May 29, 2008, 21:16 GMT

    The PCB might look forward to make Akram Coach. What do you think, good move or not? I personally think that is the best thing that could happen to Pak cricket right now.

  • Anil on May 28, 2008, 0:48 GMT

    Man you s... Pakistan players rocked the IPL. Look at Sohail Tanvir and Umer Gul. Also other players performed decently depending upon the chances they got

  • Faridoon on May 25, 2008, 11:35 GMT

    Rizzy Khan, chill dude, don't crucify me. This is not something that I have "come up with just to cause controversy". It's just something I heard and wanted to know if there was any truth to it or if anyone else heard the same.

    It is, however, surprisingly pleasant to know that there are still true Shoaib fans out there like Rizzy willing to give him another chance and not asking for his head for every rumor they hear.

    For the sake of Pakistan Cricket and all Shoaib fans I do hope that he does only have a knee injury and nothing more; even though the Knight Riders are pretty much out of the tournament.

  • INDIAN_DRAGON on May 22, 2008, 10:29 GMT

    I don't agree with SACHIN FAN(FLORIDA) that tests and ODIs will become obsolete. I am an Indian, and after watching almost every match of IPL for 1 month, I was watching the test match(Eng/NZ) more than IPL matches in those days. I think the test was more Interesting in the first few days.

  • Rizzy Khan on May 21, 2008, 15:17 GMT

    Faridoon, nowhere is it written or has it been implied that Akhtar has stopped playing the IPL because of persomal issues in Pakistan. This is just the mind bent bigotry like you and many others on this blog have come up with just to cause controversy, maybe, just maybe Akhtar is not playing becuase he DOES have a knee injury, and given his age and the pace he bowls at, that is not surprising.

  • Faridoon on May 21, 2008, 5:30 GMT

    - Shoaib Akhtar found with 36 syringes at airport before leaving for India - WADA announces random dope checking at IPL - Shoaib Akhtar stops playing IPL first citing personal issues in Pakistan and then knee injury.

    Has anyone else heard the news items above??

  • Chaudary Imran Chandio on May 20, 2008, 14:16 GMT

    Salaam, Firstly I would like to say that pakistani players have played ok in the IPL, they were not rated that highly in the beginning anyway. The bowlers have done really well, Afridi has not done himself any favors and was dropped coz of his poor poor batting, I mean with Afridi and Gilchrist batting I was looking forward to it. Sohail has bowled well and also Gul, Misbah only got going in the last match he played. Malik has been really poor has not really got a chance to bat, bowled poorly. Pakistan is a poor country a 3rd world country and like another brother mentioned earlier people do not have money to eat and have electricity when will they have money to pay for watching matches, they won't and they don;t go to watch domestic matches in Pakistan, India have Bollywood which is now an international thing, they have money and power, Pakistan is still as a country a long way behind India and would not be able to host such events, and also for security reasons it would be impossible.

  • dark star on May 17, 2008, 14:29 GMT

    Kamran once again you have posted an article that I can only regard poor. Shoaib Akthar on his return has just taken four wickets. Sohail Tanvir has taken six wickets. Although granted that not all Pakistan players have performed well, please do not give one sided somewhat baseless arguements that Pakistan players cannot compete with other international cricketers. If you only cast your mind back to the twenty twenty world championship, Pakistan did reach the final, and they did beat Australia, New Zealand, and Sri-lanka. If Pakistan was that bad it would have not gone so far in the competition now would it???

  • Rizzy Khan on May 17, 2008, 7:29 GMT

    In reponse to Asad Rashid, no i cannot say you are wrong as the first test Pakistan will play after playing India this year will be early next year, but thats not to say that pakistan will be short on action THIS year, first they play a warm up event with Bangladesh and India in Bangladesh, then its the Asia Cup in June, once again against India, Bangldesh and Sri Lanka. A twenty20 event in Canada against the West Indies follows in August. Then its back to Pakistan for the Champions trophy in September. So alot of cricket lies ahead. Getting back to the Ipl and the Ppl, i believe that the Ppl wil only help Pakistan, i read on Salman Ahmads piece that there will be a limit of 4 u-19s in each team, that can only begood, allowing seniors to play with the younger ones. PPL doesnt have to be on the same lines as the IPL. It DOESNT have to be some money laundering tournament, but can just give younger players the experience and establish rivalry between players. If it does, i back it.

  • Asad Rashid on May 14, 2008, 18:56 GMT

    Just wanted to bring up something to your notice not related to this blog. After the announcement of the India test series schedule it now means Pakistan will go the entire 2008 without playing a test match. Does this mean we were not scheduled to play any test matches away from home this entire year??!!Please tell me I am wrong. For die hard test fans like myself and the few fellows I meet refularly at the national stadium this is both gut wrenching and heart breaking. Worst of all from early 2007 to early 2009, Yousuf (who was in the form of his life) will have played 4 tests. That's 4 tests in 2 years.

  • Phirwohi on May 14, 2008, 18:29 GMT

    Some people are saying the IPL league cricket thing was long thought of by mr modi when he was studying in the US...but let me remind the posters that at that time no 2020 exsisted..

  • MAAAZ on May 14, 2008, 9:06 GMT

    You are right IPL is huge success. Excellent job Mr. Modi & co. The execution of the idea is fabulous and it getting unexpected puplic interest all around the world, for example knight riders VS Deccan charger match was highiest viewership(TRP) in Australia compare to other TV programms at same time,this goes to show how major hit the IPL is. Just imagine next year all IPL hate monger will get converted in IPL fans. Hats of Lalit modi and thanks for the gift called IPL.

  • Javed Khan from India on May 14, 2008, 8:39 GMT

    To Rauf , Yes T20 can be popular in USA /Japan because the T20 is close to baseball in terms of speed of the game and time (4 hours). Yes I also meant that T20 will target Asian and other immigrants and once they become good teams and win some and $$$$ start to flow in the white/black Americans will be interested in the game. Americans will not be intereted for the love of game like asians/Aussies but if it fetches $$$$$$ and brings business,they will be intereted for sure.Trust me,I deal with Americans for business purposes for last 20 years & I know US mentality. Oh I am not optmistic here,this is a report which BCCI recently got after they did research on this possibility and the report specifically mentioned Indian/Pakistani based immigrants as primary target for first phase in countries like USA Canada Dubai Singapore. The fact that bilionaire Allen Stanford is interested should be clear indicator on potential business opportunity these people see in the T20 club concept.

  • John D'Souza on May 14, 2008, 8:23 GMT

    We are already seeing the fallout of having Businessman buying teams with no understanding of the sport.

    Vijay Mallya of Bangalore Royal Challenge has sacked his CEO and made critical comments about Dravid. Poor Dravid had never faced such verbal volleys in his entire life even when India was dumped from the world cup.

    Shahrukh Khan has politely suggested to 5 players to leave the hotel so that KKR can down on expenses.

    Next year, players will be expected to share hotel rooms and bring their own cricket gear.

    Corporatisation of cricket brings in more money into the game, more drama for spectators and greater accountability.

  • jondavluc on May 14, 2008, 7:59 GMT

    i don't think that 20/30 will change test that much is bascally means now you might got at four stead of 3 runs per over in test i hardly could see test being ruined in test if people tyry the shit they pull in test they will be gone like that even they manged 400 twenty twenty style they facts remine the other team will just cruise there way to that total without risk they will have more time to do it in it pretty big load they it will ruin test cricket i think it can improve it

    i also don't agree with the article tanvir and shoiab (even though he is banned from playing for pakistan)and mohemmed asif have done a good job i don't agree that it shows the team is any worse or better than other countries i think we all know that pakistan is far from minnow level they can perfrom agaist the best and they still do it was only recently they took on india depite they didn't win in the end but they did show good performances and have beating them a couple of times during that meeting.

  • Karan on May 14, 2008, 6:54 GMT

    Firstly those who feel that my critism of someone was harsh and this blog becomes like India v/s Pak, my appologies. Those were not my intentions but if Mr.Javed Khan or Mr.Abassi or anybody has something baseless to say against India or Indians then I will not keep quiet. In the opening comments of Mr.Javed he has mentioned some really stupid comments. Rather than worrying about his country he is more bothered about Indian philosophy and entertainment options available to Indians ! Mr.Abassi request you to also see the comments being posted on your blog.

    I would also like to clear that this IPL idea was put forward by Lalit modi many years ago and it was not an idea of ICL. That time Dalmiya was at the helm and he rejected the proposal. So before commenting please do your research. I am amazed at the organisational skills of BCCI as they have done this so professionally. So many players teams, matches everyday. Just the logistics is so difficult. Hats off to the BCCI.

  • Muhammad Shafiq on May 14, 2008, 3:59 GMT

    Pakistan players will definately shine, this frmat is for Pakistan. GUL, TANVEER, AKHTAR has shown class, Asif & Misbah have shown glimpses--- Malik & AFridi , the big two have been disappointed but we all know they will bounce back (Afridi not that bad in bowling, avtually he should be played as bowler)---AKmal lack of oppurtunity----while YOUSIF & YOUNIS (Ah, we miss you)... The bottom line is bowlers have fired, but batters will take some time---i can simply predict that future of IPL belongs to pakistanis atleast for next 5 years.

  • Kay Kay on May 14, 2008, 3:53 GMT

    Javed Khan is always praising Admani..is there something..some loset thing.. we dont know yet.

  • sonibb on May 14, 2008, 2:58 GMT

    IPL - is a wastage of time

    Its just making fool of Indian Public and gathering Crores for the players who r already super rich

    This Circus needs 2 b Shut DOWN !!!!

    This is all Baloney...

    Shame on the Frnachise Owners too... Shah rukh ..lol..the Biggest Bhand in this world....

    People Boycott IPL.... !!

  • saptarshi on May 14, 2008, 2:47 GMT

    finally joseph did turn up and well with nothing useful to say. FYI overseas entertainers are exempted from paying tax that involves cricketers, rock stars or any overseas entertainers or what we call double taxation exemptions. Indian cricket team had a similar problem this time when they toured Australia however that was sorted out. NZ exempts overseas entertainers from double taxation. So my pal keep dreaming.

  • Aditya Kumar Pidaparthy on May 14, 2008, 1:41 GMT

    Regarding the First Comment made by javed:

    When Kamran originally wrote about ICL-IPL what the hell, he wrote with the general bias he has against anything that is Indian. Now somehow it seems some sense has finally infiltrated into his writing.

  • Asim on May 13, 2008, 23:06 GMT

    Very simple to judge IPL's success. Look at the number of posts already. I'm a big sports fan in the US and long wished for something like this with Cricket. Only negative is that in the long run Twenty20 will hurt Tests and ODIs. I dare to say 30 -40 years from now this will be the the only format of cricket left, as it should be.

  • Shaun S Ali on May 13, 2008, 21:39 GMT

    In the T20 World Cup, the Pak team not only reached the finals but had the most consistent performance of all teams throughout the tournament. Although these same players aren't blowing out the competition like their Indian and Aussie counterparts, lets not be so quick to doubt their talent. The issue may be one of playing opportunity, home field (dis)advantage, confidence, or any other such factor and should be studied before such a harsh judgement is vetted out.

    As concerns a possible PPL, although such a league cannot hope to match the IPL in terms of money, glamor, and rosters, this is no reason for Pak fans to be embarrassed by the proposition. It may indeed be a "pale imitation", but it will have many virtues. A PPL would benefit local players unable to play in the quota-maxed IPL by offering much needed exposure and match fees. I would love to see the like of fawad alam, sohail khan, wahab riaz, umar akmal, and other domestic stars battle it out on the pitch.

  • safwan on May 13, 2008, 21:22 GMT

    i Usually agree with you kamran on most issues...how ever i cant agree that IPL or 20/20 is a suitable barometer to measure any player's quality....having said that we all saw shoaib's fine performance today and also of afridi and asif with the ball over the course of the tournmanet.....even PONTING and Kallis have failed miserably at IPL....does this make them poor players?

    On a positive note i hope PCB wakes up from its slumber and givs shoaib another chance, he has just been handled grotesquely over the years!!!

  • Pratik on May 13, 2008, 20:41 GMT

    Well, now you do have a significant contribution from a Pakistani cricketer - Shoaib's spell. The taboo man of Pak cricket stormed IPL. Unfortunately, if PCB has its way, this tournament might just be his swansong.

  • Abdur RazzaQ on May 13, 2008, 18:36 GMT

    "GOTCHA!! Here 's your $10,000 Kamran" IPL Bookies to Kamran.

    oh.. good ol' "ICL - IPL, What the hell?"

  • Sammy on May 13, 2008, 18:25 GMT

    Kamran has now changed his whiny tune and officially joined the "IPL is here to stay" bandwagon. Boy, how he was praying and wishing it to fail only in his previous article! As for the rest of the naysayers9, including the annoying and obnoxious sidekick from Montreal, your comments trying to demean India and Indians is not going to change anything, except perhaps letting you sleep peacefully in the night! IPL and India is here to stay for a long long time while Pakistan cricket flounders in the gutter!!

  • theossa, Pittsburgh, U.S.A. on May 13, 2008, 18:08 GMT

    First of all my condolences to all Indian friends on the Jaipur’s blasts and the resulting loss, may those lost rest in peace.

    Kamran, it’s only half way in IPL and Pakistani players might show up eventually if they are given proper chances. They could just be having a slow start.

    Rauf

    Very good points there about the state of American sports market but you also answered the “IPL in U.S.” question. Unless they are targeting South Asians and West Indians immigrants, which I’m sure they are, IPL have very slim chance in U.S. IPL might introduce sporadic Twenty20 games targeting the said audience in places like Florida, Houston, NY City, and California. Philip John Joseph LOL Philip, that’s some humorous but likely prediction. You might have pissed some folks like Karan and Suraj, who have lost the plot here and are more focused on down low personal attacks on Javed A Khan. Quoting from Suraj, “We all enjoy freedom of speech”, do you believe in this yourself? MJafferi Don’t you see the irony in “IPL idea” by Modi is being entertained right after ICL is announced? Truth is, ICC and BCCI will never let their money pot i.e. people of India benefit another cricket league. Your quote about Kamran’s article, “Poorly researched article, and Absolute garbage” is followed by some stinky writing.

  • MJafferi on May 13, 2008, 14:50 GMT

    Poorly researched article. Absolute garbage.

    IPL did not borrow or hijack the idea from ICL. Modi had registered such a league way before Zee even dreamt of ICL. The T20 concept and format have all been introduced in England successfully and the entertainment aspect as well is directly borrowed from the original T20 tournament in England. IPL was the first one to create franchises and sell them to private investors, auction players, put a salary cap, etc. None of this has ever been tried in ICL or in any other cricket tournament.

    Kamran, please do a bit of research before you decide to write another silly article such as this.

    -Mj.

  • nathan on May 13, 2008, 14:07 GMT

    I am an Idian cricket fan, so let me giv you my view point. I partly agree with Kamran Abbassi's comments but I do have my differences. I have watched all IPL and ICL games, and whilst IPL may have more quality than the ICL, I am yet to see the same level of intensity that the ICL games produced. There was a hint of desperation in all ICL players' attitude, which I don't see in some IPL teams. As far as Pakistan players quality is concerened, rest assured that class will shine through. I am an Indian cricket fan, but I am amazed the talent Pakistan unearths in its cricketing backwaters. Some of their better players are playing in the ICL ( Azhar Mahmood, Riaz Afridi, Naved Latif all are better than some of the Pakistan players in the IPL now). The real bottleneck for them is the cricketing infrastructure ( much like India's was, but is getting better now), but the talent is always there. Here's hoping another Waqar Younis or Wasim Akram is around the corner and dazzles us soon.

  • a.v. on May 13, 2008, 13:33 GMT

    ipl is just the start of many things that the bcci plans to implement so guys just watch out and do not try to copy the ipl format. In the long run all the spikes will fall off

  • Moin on May 12, 2008, 20:01 GMT

    I can never really understand why a cricket blog always becomes Inda Vs Pakistan battle.

    I think cricket is above all these and we need to appreciate good cricket.

  • M. Y. Kasim. Houston. Tx. on May 12, 2008, 19:03 GMT

    I see that lots of people are getting personal in their comments and are stooping very low down as far as their hatred toward Mr. Javed A. Khan is concerned. Believe me, I also dis-agree with some of his views, but it does not mean that I am right and he is wrong or vice versa.

    When you guys discuss Cricket, keep it that way instead of showing your true colors. Your tinted comments will not alter ground realities.

    If India has 15-20 good batsmen and 10-15 bowlers and all of them are young, good for India. As also, India has about a thousand Billionaires, good. But unfortunatly, India also has over a Billion hungry and starving population. We, the Pakistanis sympathise with them and you. We hope that the people of India, Pakistan, Bangla Desh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan and above all, Kashmir live in peace and prosperity. As also the people of Afghanistan.

  • JAVED A KHAN MONTREAL, CANADA on May 12, 2008, 15:35 GMT

    Omar Admani you have made a very interesting and valid suggestion about the two innings shorter version, you must write it to the ICC and ask them to consider it. Chaudhary read Kamran Abbassi's thread once again he hasn't changed his stance on what he said earlier unfortunately for you its written in English and not in your mother tongue Paindoish.

  • Martin Hook on May 12, 2008, 14:15 GMT

    Javed Khan makes a good point about IPL not being originator of the T20 league idea and says that they did not have intellectual property rights. That is true, but then ICL did not have it either and you were very happy accusing IPL in your first post. It seems you change in the light of facts to worse.

  • Suraj on May 12, 2008, 13:04 GMT

    @ Karan and others amazed by the rubbish from Javed Khan – don’t bother setting him right – he is a well-established clown of this blog. We all enjoy freedom of speech and expression, and Javed is only enjoying his right to make a fool of himself!

    There are many right-thinking Pakistanis who give credit where credit is due, but then there are oafs like this fellow who look for any chance to denigrate anything Indian. It stems from jealousy of India – he has short-man-syndrome, but regarding his country, not height!

    Even Kamran appears to suffer from this (see his previous IPL post): there are many reasons why there ought not to be a PPL, and though he explores several of them, the first one he latches on to is that it would never be as good as the IPL. He also still holds the erroneous notion that the IPL stole the ICL’s idea, when it is well-known that Modi thought this up yonks ago. To understand his allegiances, ask yourself which of these leagues has a Pakistani team!

  • Philip John Joseph on May 12, 2008, 12:28 GMT

    Greetings Mr. Abbasi,

    Just wanted to point out that the BCCI is playing with fire. When foreign cricketers start filing tax returns in India, the tax authorities will start snooping around the BCCI's "private" accounts, and that will be the beginning of the end of Lalit Modi's little "gravy/curry train." Cometh the taxman, cometh the death of the BCCI. Three cheers for the taxman. Taxman, taxman, taxman ....

  • Rauf on May 12, 2008, 10:18 GMT

    To Javed Khan from India

    IPL in USA/Japan?

    Are you joking or just being unrealisticly optimistic here. It's been FIFA's wet dream for years to crack into the US market and they have lot more money then still novice IPL. MLS (Major League Soccer) is now trying by wooing famous players like Beckham on tail end of their careers to do the magic but still no significant viewership. US sports fan base is divided into NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB and NASCAR, Unless IPL is targeting 3 to 4 million South Asian diaspora, average American does not care about anything non-American... specially if it has it's roots in England. As for Japan, they mostly like whatever an average American likes.

  • Cricket Fan on May 12, 2008, 10:15 GMT

    Mr. JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, I would like to know, In your view, have India Cricketers/BCCI/IPL have done anything good or worthwhile till now. You seem to disagree to each and everything. Before the IPL started, you kept thrashing the IPL and ICL in another thread (ICL - IPL what the Hell?). You had also predicted that IPL will be a major failure even before the first ball was bowled. Now you seem to point that IPL is a success (but only till now and you seem to be praying for its failure in the future.) And also you seem to point some silly issues to improve(??) IPL by not having cheerleaders and having less matches etc. I would like to know if there is anything that is better in your view point about Indian Cricket or administration ?

    Surprisingly you have sympathy towards ICL now. You say ICL is the pioneer in popularizing T20 and you have some quote pointing Indians (IPL) have become "settlers" of T20. Does that mean ICL is not an Indian league ?

    Hope U r not jealous of IPL.

  • Karan on May 12, 2008, 5:35 GMT

    Just read the comments of the buffoon of this blog Javed Khan from Canada. All i can say is 'khisiani billi khamba noche' or for the idiot living on canadian rehmokaram i will try to put it in english 'sour grapes Mr.Javed?' I feel atleast we have some entertainment be it TV, films and cricket, i feel for you only option is watching Al Zazeera. I am glad to see you jealous on the success on IPL. You cant digest the fact that it is the future of cricket and all the players are running to be a part of it. Last week I was in Australia and must say that the IPL is a big hit there too, even though matches are at 1.00 am, people are watching it and now the aussie board is scared that no one will watch aus-WI test series and stay tuned to IPL. I am happy to see all our young players do very well and in the coming years our team will be even stronger. We now have atleast 15-20 good batsmen, 10-15 good bowlers and they are all young. Things only look bright. So keep burning Mr.Javed Khan.

  • Zakir Khan Saheb Chaudhary on May 11, 2008, 23:14 GMT

    It seems many people here are just living to post a comment on whatever Kamran writes. I congratulate the author on his brilliant take on IPL. Truth must be told, and it takes a brave person like Kamran to correct himself as soon as evidence presented itself. Compare this with pseudo cricket enthusiasts like Montreal guy who has just made up his mind and would not change no matter what. On top of his over the top comments he castigates everyone who dare to disagree or change their opinion. But, I guess it demonstrates the difference between a true global citizen with modern mindset and someone living in past hating India.

  • rehman on May 11, 2008, 21:56 GMT

    A country like Pakistan should not compete with a Economic and Military Superpower India. Instead of PPL Pakistan should try to maintain law and order in the country rather than start a new cricket league which no one will care or follow. We all know that BCCI runs Pakistan cricket board not Musharaf. Pakistanis should be happy that India is giving a chance to play in a world class tournament. May god bless pakistan and India.

  • Omer Admani on May 11, 2008, 21:12 GMT

    Continued- The problem with 20/20 as it is that test match (as well as the 50-over game) level skill will almost certainly depreciate, as a good bowl can be outside off, down the leg, any full-toss that might be mishit, and so on. The brutish slog is preferred to the cultured drive. Pure cricketing skills will inevitably decline. In the above format I mentioned, any batsmen that can play aggressive but with good skill (Ghilcrist, Jaysuriya) will be rewarded, as well as a grafter should a wicket fall early. A finisher like Bevan, and a hitter like Afridi would also do well. It doesn't exclude the pure cricketer as we know it, and supports all types of players. Room could also be made for an alrounder as a sixth batsman. The game will be 4 overs, 2 innings would add to the flavor. 20/20 IPL is something new and may or may not survive. Pak at this point shouldn't try to emulate the IPL, rather be creative and see what can add to the player's cricketing skills, as well as be marketable.

  • Omer Admani on May 11, 2008, 21:02 GMT

    PCB should start a league, but not by copying the 20/20 and the IPL. The aim at first should be to strengthen Pak cricket. What they can do is that, take the same concept of regions competing while altering 20/20. 5 specialist batsmen can bat, 5 specialist bowlers can bowl, 15 overs and two innings per side. That way batsmen will have to play proper cricket and the bowlers will have a good chance by being allowed to bowl swing and line-and-length. Two innings would make sure that the contest is not lop-sided. So, supposed a team collapses and gets out on 40, 50, their bowlers can still do well, and bats can come back bat again to keep the match alive. The game would be something like 4 hours (and appealing) and proper cricketers will be nurtured. It is ridiculous if Shoaib Malik is payed more in any format of the game than Mohammad Yousof and this sort of abridged format will reward the good batsman and the good bowler. The moving, new ball will help with the openers (15 overs inings).

  • Adnan Ahmad Khan on May 11, 2008, 19:40 GMT

    I agree to Mr.Kamran Abbasi's comments that at the moment idea of Pakistan premier league looks nothing but a wish which can not be fulfilled. But I do not agree to Mr. Kamran Abbasi's comments on Pakisatn players performance at IPL. Our bowlers have done well take a look on the statistics Umer gul has the best strike rate, Sohail Tanveer has the best average. What else do you want? Batting has never been a strong point for Pakistan.

  • Sun2 on May 11, 2008, 16:55 GMT

    The Pakistani players performance has been less than mediocre. It is absolutley aweful to watch , Misbah, Afridi and Shoaib Malik toil in vain and lose thier wickets so cheaply? What a lame show? ICL had the best players from Pakistan and too bad that PCB is a blind follower of Modi and thugs co. The "ICL Pakistani" has the best players of all time second only to Imran Khans Class of 92. I hope PCB is revamped and common sense prevails and Pakistan has the best players back in the saddle once again...

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 11, 2008, 9:02 GMT

    To Salman Khan and pb.Any idea, if it is not implemented or not registered, copyright as an intellectual property, remains just an idea on paper or it remains in someone's mind forever, it has no significance whatsoever. The only problem with ICL is they were not baptized by the My Baaps, thats all. "Revenge is a dish best eaten cold," and Modi is not only enjoying this dish but, he is also sharing it with the Katrinas and Zintas and rubbing salt over the wounds of (kapil) Devdas. One can argue that ODI's were the brainchild of Kerry Packer and others have stolen it, so what? May be Allen Stanford & Co., might succeed it in doing it better than IPL. Or, as per the rumour after seeing these IPL matches, Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Sharjah are joining hands together to organize "Arabian Nights Cricket" by spending more money than IPL. They certainly have the means and the resources to do it. Dubai can lit up the skies with fireworks, cheerleaders, super models and actresses. Abu Dhabi can throw their petrodollars in prize money and sponsorships and make the belly dancers from Egypt and Lebanon by rollicking and gyrating their butts at the center stage. And the conservative emirate of Sharjah might open its barren "cricket museum" once again i.e., The Sharjah Cricket Stadium and guess who will be cheering the crowds? Some mystic sufi whirling darwishes and niqaab posh abayans? Peut-être. I have a question and a suggestion for the Kuli Kutub Shah's Ku Klux Khan: "What crawled up and died there?" If there is a PITA thats bothering you since the 70's and 80's it must be a real chronic persistent case of aneurysm, get a DRE or Colonoscopy or Proctoscopy and live in peace and harmony ever after.

  • Salman Ahmad on May 11, 2008, 8:35 GMT

    I think youll find that the PPL does NOT intend to include foreign players, go to this site: http://www.thetwenty20cup.co.uk/db/indian_premier_league/article.asp?NewsID=2554e, and youll find that "the Twenty20 national championship would also be expanded to possibly include foreign players", it makes it sound that they are not to keen on foreigners anyway. Sponsors and companies would probably include PIA, WAPDA, HBL AND Mountain Dew, so whoever said nobody will sponsor has got it absolutely wrong. Also by visting this site: http://www.pakspectator.com/pakistan-premier-league-in-2009/ , youll find that the "PCB has already been assured by some Indian tycoons of their support in sponsorship ", that sounds good. Another final thing is in the first article, the Pcb wants at least 4 u-19 players to play in each franchise, that can only be good for pakistan cricket where youth players usually fall away after the u-19 level, they now have an oportunity to play with seniors, pretty good, no?

  • Salman Khan on May 11, 2008, 0:16 GMT

    pb is the only one who has corrected Dr Abbasi. The idea of T20 tournament sprouted for the first time in Modi's brain in the late 90s.ICL stole the idea and ran with it.As much as I dislike Modi , this is a fact. This is also one of the reasons Modi despises ICL .

  • M. Y. Kasim. Houston. Tx. on May 10, 2008, 20:04 GMT

    PPL? Are you kidding? When the touring team dont want to come for security grounds, would they come individually? Plus where would you get the money to dish them out? Do we have the infra- structures? People dont have enough Atta, Sugar, Rice, Cooking Oil, Petrol, Gas, Electricity and other neccessities to survive, who would think of going to Stadiums and pay exobitant price to pay and watch cricket while their children are hungry and crying for food!!

    We dont have enough electricity to run our factories and cool our homes during these soaring summer season, how could we light up the stadiums?

    How many multi-nationals or individuals like Shah Rukh Khan are there to sponsor it? Would'nt be better to spent the same money on improving the stadiums, the playing fieds, the pitches, the drinking water, lunch and snack facilities at reasonable and affordable prices to the spectators instead of air-conditioned rooms for the ineffecient officials of the PCB.

    THINK ABOUT IT.

  • Ali Kuli Khan on May 10, 2008, 15:37 GMT

    Javed Khan aka Khan Saheb's world view (stuck in 70s) is in direct opposition to the future of cricket in this country and future relationship between neighbours. Things will not stay as they were 20 years ago. Javed Khan is still living in 86 and dreaming about Javed Miandad's sixes in Sharjah while world has made him obsolete. Too Bad.

  • Hassan on May 10, 2008, 13:53 GMT

    Afridi has done decent with bowling, it would be anytime he hits form with the bat. Another positive is Sohail Tanveer finally developed an outswing for left handers, and inswing for right handers which is very important to have for left handed bowler. Umar Gul is doing fine as well. Asif needs to adjust his bowling for 20/20, he is good test bowler, but he needs to vary his length in such matches.

  • hamzah on May 10, 2008, 11:34 GMT

    I look forward to the day when people and Kamran talk about Pakistan cricket for what it truly is: "The Brazil of Cricket" without the organisation and world cups of course. Fact is we are going through a bad patch which seems to affect us pretty much every 2 years. As Pakistanis we should be use to it now. My advice to everyone, just be patient until we start ruling the world again and savour it as much as you can because the incoming rough patch won't be far away!

  • Javed Khan from India on May 10, 2008, 6:50 GMT

    T20 has potential to attract baseball playing countries to start playing cricket. The only hurdle was Americans and others like club games more rather than country games. This is evident from NFL , NBA , EPL , NHL etc. Now BCCI has in its hands IPL lottery where most likely even non playing countries will make their T20 clubs and send them to IPL, The reason is IPL has $$$$$$ and is big business in buying franchisees and players , unlike test cricket where playing for country was sole motivator. BCCI once they start scheduling IPL matches in non cricketing countries like dubai, Singapore ,USA, Japan - then more countries will want to make their own franchise teams to play in IPL. BCCI has $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ coming their way and soon will be financial superpower atleast in Cricket. Eventually cricket will be a global sports because just like baseball and other games ,T20 is fast & gets over in 4 hours unlike ODIs/Tests where timefactor was major hurdle in making cricket a global sport.

  • Sameer Thakkar on May 10, 2008, 6:36 GMT

    Modi of IPL has quoted that if $5 miliion limit which was set for this version of IPL is removed,then some world players could be paid like NBA NFL stars. This is quite possible seeing the success of IPL. The T20 format is also such that countries like USA, Japan and others where baseball is popular are likely to get interested in future, especially considering the financial might of BCCI. One reads in newspapers that in coming years Modi plans to select some international venues for IPL matches/tournament to popularise cricket more like Bollywood filmfare awards bieng held in UK,SA,Singapore Dubai and thus making Indian movies more popular. Just like the IT software boom has increased Indian economy, BCCI's IPL will rocket Indian sports industry. Indian owned F1 team has already got a F1 racing , the same Indian who owns Bangalore team. The future seems bright for the Indian budiing cricketrs for whom ultimate goal used to Indian team. Now most will target IPL for fame and wealth.

  • Mohshin Afridi from Singapore on May 10, 2008, 6:24 GMT

    PPL can never be a success for following reasons. 1)Games will be held in Pakistan - infrastructure is not so great 2)Security reasons i.e many top world players will not be interested to travel to Pakistan especially if the money is not as good as offered in IPL. Without top players and infrastructure PPL will be as good as ICL. 3) Bad management skills of Pakistan or PCB both , Anyone suggesting that Ashraf can do as good a job as Modi must be crazy. Last but not the least. Which part of the year will PPL be held. I mean IPL is held now in april/May so country fixtures for players are at minimum. Make a choice. If PPL and IPL are held in same month, it wont take a Sherlock Holmes to figure out where most of the world class players will go. One wont be surprised that even Pakistani players might choose to go to IPL over PPL unless govt forces them to choose patroitism over money. In short PPL is bad idea would be somewhat like African football league compared to EPL in UK.

  • Faridoon on May 10, 2008, 6:13 GMT

    With only half of the IPL matches played so far, there are still many opportunities for the Pak players to shine. Yes, we'd all (Pakis) love to see Misbah hit the winning shot or Afridi stroke a 15-ball 50 or Umer Gul wipe up the tail but we must be patient, there is still time.

    As for the PPL, well, I think we are unanimous in that it would be a horrible idea. I think the PCB should stick to the domestic annual T20 competition which seemed to generate a lot of interest locally. The inter-city format is what worked I think, people seemed to care more if a team from their city rather than a PIA or Habib Bank team was playing. PCB should get the hint. Go Sialkot Stallions!

    Will those who played ICL be allwoed to participate in the domestic T20 competition? Sadly, I think not. Thats another item on the long list of woeful losses for PCB. Imagine the Sialkot Stallions without Imran Nazir and Rana Naved (I think both played ICL).

  • SACHIN FAN , FLORIDA , USA on May 10, 2008, 2:39 GMT

    IPL is here to stay. I've watched few matches and I am impressed how well it was organized. IPL is the future of world cricket. Few years from now test cricket and one day will become obsolete. PCB should form alliance with IPL and more pakistani players should participate in IPL. Except Tanvir no other Pak player has shown any promise but again this is only the begining of something great thats gonna happen in future. Maybe IPL will bring everlasting Peace between 2 countries. With IPL , cricket will reach all corners . Who knows, even America can become major player in T20 , 20 years from now . In short IPL has fascinating future !! Peace Out !! Sachin Fan , USA

  • Omer Admani on May 10, 2008, 2:10 GMT

    On Pakistan-- now they can, after the tri-series in Bangladesh, invite Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, and Scotland to have a Pentangular cup. Make sure the pitches are the flattest (as against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh) and in no way accept offers to play on the pitches of Ireland and Scotland, or even Bangladesh, lest another embarassment awaits us. That way Pakistan can take the record of most consecutive wins to new heights (50 should remain unbeatable). On the other hand, the doctor can do the right thing, axe Malik and his buddies, such as Akmal. Make Waqar the bowling coach. Give players like Sohail Khan, Fawad Alam, Anwar Ali, a longer run in the team. Also, rather than getting a pschologist for mental strength and baseball coach for fielding, the doctor should get someone to make the players understand the game better so that they can make adjustments themsevles on different pitches and in different forms of games. Imran Khan and Wasim Akram aren't there in the team to do that.

  • senior player on May 10, 2008, 0:43 GMT

    The so called super-stars, the afridis, the maliks and the khans have been exposed. The bowlers have been above average.

  • suraj on May 9, 2008, 22:58 GMT

    Yes Abbasi, but but about ur post u write here'ICL,IPL wht the hell'. Indians make u eat ur words..lol.Better luck next time.By the way why ur every post contain this or that against india. Look ur very own cricketers have lined up to be taken for Ipl now.What u want to comment now....

  • TTU on May 9, 2008, 18:31 GMT

    I belive that when you say that the "pakistanis have stuggled" youre very wrong, its more the "pakistanis havent really been given the chance", the rift between indian and pakistanis still exists but the idians are trying there best not to show it. Is it surprising that Sohail Tanvir has done well under an AUSTRALIAN captain? or how about Afridis highest score of 20, which also came underneath Gilchrist, as far as underperforming goes, Afridi has been Deccans, in terms of strike, best bowler and he has retained his place based on his bowling, as for the likes of Akmal and Butt, they have not been given any chance. Umar gul has also shown why he was the best world t20 bowler in his first 2 matches. Shoaib Akhtar has not been given his chance yet and Younus has backed out. The only pakistani to not contribute is Malik, hes only had some amazing catches, but bating at no. 5 and geting a chance only in the death overs(other than 1 match) means he has had very limted chances in the IPL.

  • Shahid Pathan on May 9, 2008, 18:12 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi,

    Very good article. PPL is a no starter; when national team dont visit what are the chances of individual players playing in sialkot? We can not compete with the super power of cricket. period.

  • Moin on May 9, 2008, 14:29 GMT

    Kamran, I have been waiting for your views on IPL for long and I was disappointed with a short article.

  • Sameer Thakkar on May 9, 2008, 13:55 GMT

    To suggest an IPL like in tournament is not only funny but unrealistic. When teams are not coming for Test matches or ODI for genuine security reasons to Pakistan, why would so many players come to Pakistan for a suicide PPL OOPS i meant to be victim of suicide bombers. A couple of Pakistani players are making good money and I dont think they wann stay away from IPL.

  • kripra on May 9, 2008, 13:46 GMT

    Good article;to further probe some of the issues pointed out - a) firstly the IPL validates all the tenets of a free market. The best players have delivered a product that the masses will pay for. Against this backdrop, for cricket purists to decry the crassness of IPL is a moot point. Second, what the IPL did to ICL is clearly a major violation of anti-trust law, and anywhere else the IPL, and the cricket boards would have a tough time in court. Unfortunately, the ICL neither has the financial resources to fight this, nor are the Indian courts capable of understanding the anti-trust ramifications of IPL's actions. Lastly, the globalization of cricket is not going to come from the current cricket boards and their format of competition between a handful of playing nations. For cricket to get its due position amidst the pantheon of global sports with a major TV audience(baseball, football, basketball, etc) the IPL is the platform that can deliver cricket the glory it deserves.

  • Amit on May 9, 2008, 13:41 GMT

    Good article

  • pritam singh on May 9, 2008, 13:35 GMT

    well kamran u sound like any frustrated individual who just wants to hate anything indian. Let's get over it..IPL has been a success and the even if some pakistani's didn't perform their level best yet there were enough indications of crowd loving them.......who would have imagined indian crowd booing sreesanth for sledging Kamran Akmal. People have gone crazy whenever afrdi stepped out. Sohail tanvir has been toast of jaipur. Banglore supporters still can't believe that MIsbah is not regular i finsl XI. bottom line IPL has helped in removing some of these animosities between India and Pak. for me this the reason enough to celebrate.

  • pb on May 9, 2008, 13:33 GMT

    clearly wyou dont care to do your homework or research your articles before you write them. Years back Modi had come up with an idea called ICL but was not approved by the dinosaurs at BCCI. But sharad pawar's board approved the idea and an official ICL was under development. However, miffed by lack of tv rights, ZEE TV not only stole the idea but also the name. Subsequently the league name was changed to IPL. REMEMBER: JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENED FIRST DOES NOT IMPLY THAT IT IS ORIGINAL !

  • Saad (London) on May 9, 2008, 13:01 GMT

    I disagree on a few points, the pakistani players have not been given an oppertunity. This maybe because of the other international players costing more than pakistani players to maximise the effect of the fee payed. For example, now that Shoaib has been allowed to play for Kolkata, this may mean Umar Gul will have to be dropped. We all know Gul is by far the best bowler in the Kolkata team in this format of the game. Yes, any ideas of the Pakistan premier league have to be scrapped, which international players would like to play in that? Aussies probably won't but knowing them it will probably depend on the money the'll recieve just like htey decided to play in the ipl rather than play pakistan

  • viggy on May 9, 2008, 12:57 GMT

    shoaib malik gave 15 runs in his last over. a bowler hit a six in his bowling. how pathetic

  • azad ahnad on May 9, 2008, 12:56 GMT

    r u an indian agent Kamran. Either u write sone real depressing views about pakistan or you write something which gives a chance to outsiders to mock Pakistanis,i.e Qadir was better than warne or akram better than Mcgrath despite the fact that these are not true. U must be disappointed but hardly anyone in Pakistan read your articles mostly guys in this blog live outside Pakistan, And stop living in Past glory which never existed It was in your beloved 90s that pakistan lost 6 home series in 5 years!and yeah all wasims and Wadars and anwers were part of the side then. They have always been up and down even under Imran they hardly won any thing outside subcintinent.even after becoming W champ they only won 4 out of their next 19 ODIs.so again keep things in perspective whenever you talk about Pakistan cricket or you would unwillingly or willingly working on a poisonous agends for those people who want cricket in pakistan finished. And again stop living in glory which never existed.

  • JamJar on May 9, 2008, 12:51 GMT

    Kamran,

    An interesting thread. I havent had the opportunity to watch any of the IPL slogfests but I have been tracking the fortunes of Shoaib and Co with their respective teams. I'd say our bowlers have had limited success but typically, batting has been very poor. Asif, Gul, Afridi and Tanvir have made contributions to their team's efforts. Captain and Vice-captain have failed miserably with their chances. I'm amazed that Malik continues to make the starting line-up!

    I'm hoping that playing alongside professionals that make up the international fabric of cricket, Pak's players will take this opportunity to learn and raise their own games. Asif has a prime opportunity to do so, playing alongside his hero McGrath. Hopefully, Malik and Co can bring something home from the IPL experience other than injuries and 'riches'.

    Javed.A,Khan and Khansahab - Thanks for your welcoming comments in your previous posts.

  • Farhan on May 9, 2008, 12:48 GMT

    well one of the reasons for Pakistani players' dismal performance may be that the really talented ones went to ICL rather than IPL.

  • Ray on May 9, 2008, 12:10 GMT

    IPL is here to stay. I am surprised how successful it is in its first year. It will only get better as the organizers learn from the first year experience. Remember it was put together in very short time and Lalit Modi and BCCI has done excellent job so far.

  • Muzher Sharif on May 9, 2008, 12:08 GMT

    You make a few good points, however you needlessly exaggerate the form of Pakistan's players in the IPL. In fact, most of them have faired quite well.

    Shahid Afridi, having taken 7 wickets from 5 matches, is an integral part of Hyderabad's bowling attack. Umar Gul, the best bowler in last year's World T20, has already taken 5 wickets in 2 matches with the ability to bowl yorkers at will. Sohail Tanvir is Warne's spearhead for Rajasthan, surely you didn't forget that record 6-wicket haul? Let's not forget Asif who is bowling excellently alongside McGrath. Misbah and Malik haven't made any runs in the few innings they've had so far (2 and 3 respectively), but given their excellent T20 records, they should fire pretty soon if allowed decent time out in the middle.

    All in all I really don't see why you're putting down the quality of Pakistan's IPL players. True, it is almost entirely the bowlers that are doing well, but that's just a reflection on the strength of the Pakistan cricket.

  • Tahir Khan on May 9, 2008, 11:53 GMT

    There is no doubt people are enjoy 20 20 and players are earning good money, but it has become boring for me, it does not give equal opportunity to all players or in many cases all batsmen. Most of the time it is a case of first 3 or 4 batsmen facing bulk of the bowling and for the rest of the batsmen they have 4 or 5 overs to face and show themselves. For some it comes off and for many it does not.To me format needs to be changed a little, there are so many batsmen in many teams who get very little opportunity to bat it is simply impossible to prove your self with just a few balls at your disposal, minimum 5 bowlers are used in a match, there should be some method which lets few more batsmen show themself. It is getting boring, I know lots of people will not agree with me but look middle order batsmen have to bat like tail enders and have to throw their wickts to score quickly which is wrecking their averages and records,very unfair advantage for no1 o 4, please make it equal.

  • Usman on May 9, 2008, 11:46 GMT

    Pakistan Premier League?!?! Are you serious? Gotta be the most ludicrous idea ever!

  • umar Rashid on May 9, 2008, 11:27 GMT

    Here my tope 10

    1) Pakistan will struggle to attract the top players

    2) Has Pakistan board got the money

    3) Nashim Ashraf is in charge.

    4) Only three international standard venues.

    5) Benzir Butto may make a comeback again

    6) Will not improve the Pakistan team

    7) Will not improve the Pakistan team

    8) Will not improve the Pakistan team

    9) Will not improve the Pakistan team

    10) Will not improve the Pakistan team

  • Arshad Mahmood on May 9, 2008, 11:25 GMT

    Thats right none of pakistani batsman has shown the worth of money spending by his team in IPL.Thank God pakistani balling is stil 1st class there,otherwise we would have been embarrased.

  • Bisleri on May 9, 2008, 11:18 GMT

    quite a u turn from "IPL/ICL what the hell"?

    shows how IPL has really defied expectations and has become a great Hit!

  • Ash Zed - Saudi Arabia on May 9, 2008, 10:33 GMT

    You are so precise in your analysis!!

    It is indeed true that Pakistani player's performance in the IPL truly reflects the status and quality of cricket in Pakistan. Any team other than Bangladesh and Zimbabwe can easily beat Pakistan. This is of course sad but considering the situation and continuous declining of quality coupled with inept people getting responsible position, no one can deny that this situation was bound to happen.

    Good bye Pakistan Cricket….. Time has come that we should perform final rituals of Pakistan cricket and stop living just on past glory.

  • Kota Na Insaan on May 9, 2008, 10:08 GMT

    Kya Baat Hai Kamran!

  • Suraj on May 9, 2008, 10:07 GMT

    Kamran, you are being unduly harsh and unfair in saying that the IPL hijacked the ICL’s ‘original’ idea. Firstly, there was nothing original about it – Lalit Modi had first thought this up when he was studying in the US, having been influenced by the NBA and NFL. He first tried implementing this idea under Dalmiya’s administration of the BCCI but was shouted down. However, it was always on the cards once Pawar gained control. The only thing the ICL did was increase the urgency and speed the up birth of the IPL.

  • Sami Magoon on May 9, 2008, 10:07 GMT

    I think the Paki bowling in the IPL has done a decent enough job considering the perofrmances of Asif, Gul, Afridi and Tanvir's T20 record 6-for.

    The Paki batting in the IPL has been disappointing from Salman Butt, Misbah-ul-haq, Mohammad Hafeez.

    Then again, we reached the T20 final largely due to the brilliance of our bowling, and it shows in the competition too.

  • srivathsan on May 9, 2008, 9:41 GMT

    VERY WELL WRITTEN,KAMRAN. I agree with you.As regards IPL success, It is mainly due to crowd support besides huge sponsorship.Though some of the highly rated overseas players have not done well, some of the less known local lads have fared exceedingly well.As regards pak players ,Yes , I agree that they are yet to fire but sohail tanveer has created a world record which needs to be appreciated.May be they fall in line as the tournament progresses.PCB should never venture , as you have rightly pointed out ,with PCL.To attract overseas players you need huge sponsorship.Secondly whether crowd support can be ensured for so many matches,.Besides willingness of overseas players to play in Pakistan in the present circumstances. More important of all is that too many leagues may destroy the sanctity of regular cricket.One has to ponder over all this aspect before starting a new league.Alternatively PCB can think of hosting few IPL matches in pakistan for the benifit of cricket lovers there.

  • Rauf on May 9, 2008, 9:23 GMT

    "IPL grounding ICL into dirt" and "IPL a global buzz". So Kamran you have decided to join the dark side. Has IPL money gotten to you as well :)

    IPL grounding ICL because of sheer backing of BCCI plus poodles such as PCB and other smaller boards. Global buzz is only media hyped. I haven't watched a single IPL match on tv... not because I am biased against IPL but because there is no interest in it for me... it's like Ireland and Scottland playing cricket on a cloudy day. I am no big fan of 20/20 format but I watched most 20/20 world cup matches. I think you get my drift where I am getting at.

    IPL may/may not succeed. I really don't care. It's just a big bhangra conducted by half naked cheerleaders mixed in with some bollywood trash aimed at young men who cannot control their testosterone. If you manage to see/hear thru all that crap, you may witness some mediocre cricket. So which team I am supposed to root for? Delhi... why? Why not Mumbai... wait.. why not Jaipur etc etc.

  • AJ on May 9, 2008, 9:20 GMT

    salam just what i dislike about pakistanis. we reached a world tournament final yet you say the players are not good enough? have you seen the records of malik and asif and gul, tanvir and misbah? not all the pakistanis have been given a run in the team which the indians can have due to the quota system. how many innings have misbah, butt, hafeez and malik and akmal had where they have had more than 3 overs to bat? and afridi, has been good with the ball for his team. Does this tournament mean Ponting, Kallis, Kumble and Ganguly are poor players? Yes, I would like a response! What planet are you on kamran?

  • Vikas on May 9, 2008, 9:02 GMT

    England yes,but Australia probably no.Australia simply doesn't have the fan base nor the population in its country to support a cricket league in the mode of the IPL.Indian enterpreneurs are probably the saviest in the world in their business acumen and English cricket bosses could learn a lesson or two from them in how to generate money from their age old traditional game!

  • raja sher yar on May 9, 2008, 8:46 GMT

    Pakistan has a good twenty team, some of it t20 world cup player even took part in ICL. Thumbs up to India for providing us with good entertainment, i being a Pakistani, was first time more eager to see young talent. players that you never heard of. and there are some really good exciting young players. it i a festival for Super tars, but a platform for Indian young players. this is not a tournament where you give ranking to international players for their performance, but you can give a young cricketer a new grade. Pakistan and India matches are the most pressure matches for them, now you see them bond to play together, it takes time my dear. IPL has change the future of cricket.

  • saptarshi on May 9, 2008, 8:23 GMT

    dont just try to open a blog for the sake of it. Besides while shoaib malik is not doing well, Afridi and Gul are performing reasonably well. Misbah still hasn't got much chances and also his team is performing poorly. Also your blog clearly shows how much displeased ur at the success of IPL but thats understandable considering ur political alliances.

  • Lokesh on May 9, 2008, 8:14 GMT

    PCB should utilize the IPL to advance pak cricket. For starters, IPL can have 2-3 teams that represent Pak cities like Lahore/Karachi. Some matches can be held in pakistan as well. this will give fringe pak players to test their skills at international level. once pak spectators buy the concept and pak players start excelling, pak can consider their own version of IPL. But now they should join the IPL's bandwagon.

  • karan on May 9, 2008, 6:41 GMT

    With your comments, i do not agree, i think those pak players which are really good have shined. You see Gul has bowled very well, Asif has bowled decently and I think mcgrath has helped him a lot (along with Yo mahesh, Maharoof, Delhi has one of the best attacks) But some of your players have not lived up, I was expecting Afridi to really kill in this form but I think it is Rohit Sharma and Gilly who are doing the killing. Afridi has to fire with the bat and last match makes me feel that he just may do it. Shoaib Malik has big time disappointed, although with viru, Gambhir & Shikhar in good form he has has limited opportunity. But yesterday he gave 15 runs in one over to Gony which was ridiculous. He made me loose 2 grands to the punters ! cant he bowl in the block hole ! Akmal has also not done well and Warne made him open in the first 2-3 matches. I think yousuf Pathan & Asnodkar are doing well for Royals. Yesterday lots of cheer for Akhtar, just for crowds sake i hope he lives up.

  • Karan on May 9, 2008, 6:29 GMT

    Who ever had doubts about IPL, they have been answered. In my previous posts I had mentioned that this will be great success and revive cricket in a big way. This tournament has seen some great cricket, crowds have been extraordinary and most matches have been well contested. Good thing is all players are taking it seriously and giving 100%. This has been great for Indian cricket with a chance for many youngsters to shine and also get tips from the greats inthe game, players like Abhishek nayar, Gony, Dinda, Shikhar dhawan and so many more. I am also pleased to see that the top scorers are Sehwag, Gambhir and Rohit Sharma in a tournament which has gilly, kallis, boucher, hussey, watson, graeme smith, jayasurya, sangakara, jayawardena, and in bowling the leaders are Zaheer, Pathan, Nehra which is also good to see. Some of the international players have shown their class, warne, mcgrath, pollock, asif, murali, hussey, they have been simply great and proven that they still rule.

  • Martin Hook on May 9, 2008, 4:35 GMT

    Very nice article Kamran. You have hit the nail on proverbial head. IPL is a huge success story and I can see a very fit and strong indian 20/20 and ODI team coming out of it. India right now has about 10 fast bowlers of international class, 25 batsman of staure and 6-8 spinners ready for international duty. It has never happened before. Since I am a pakistan cricket fan I think pakistan is better served by involving its first class players in ICL where they would be accepted and let more established stars play in IPl where they can be fine tuned by likes of Warne, McGrath and Buchanan. It is definitely not hurting that Asif is bowling with McGrath and not Shoaib who can only be destructive to the competitor. Over all I think Indian cricket is in the league of itys own and rest of the cricketing world would soon be playing catch-up.

  • shiraz on May 9, 2008, 0:18 GMT

    Pakistani team standard has gone down the drains. Just look what happened today in Kolkata vs Bangalore match , Taibu played and pakistan national team's opener could not make his position in the team. Just look what Afridi and Malik are doing or should i say Malik and Afridi WHO...They have done absolutely nothing. Pakistan circket needs a overhauling specially in the batting department. Its mind boggling what Umer Gul said about Ganguly on his first match. Can somebody tell Umer that the guy has more than 10,000 runs and Guys like Ponting , Hussey are playing under him with out any issues. Pls keep the microphones away from our players since they cant handle it !!! I think sohail tanvir has done good job so far and Misbah has been unlucky in the two games he has played. Other than that i dont find any thing for pakistani fans to be hopeful off.

  • khansahab786@gmail.com on May 8, 2008, 23:39 GMT

    Is this pure cricket, pure entertainment or a hybrid of the two? How do the tempting and well endowed cheerleaders fit into this "gentleman's game"? These are just some of the questions that have bamboozled the astute cricket observer. Surely this cannot be pure cricket as we know it, where norms and bounds are recognised and accepted.

    The two most salient points I could extract from Mr Abbasi's judicious prose are the general uninspiring performances of Pakistanis in this format and the folly of creating the PPL. Instead of causing embarrassment to itself and the nation, the PCB should focus wholeheartedly on improving the domestic structure, however that may be done. Should this league manage to acquire international players, the most damaging feature of such a venture would be that Pakistani players would appear lacklustre amongst their Indian, Australian and South African counterparts. But knowing the way the world is going these days, the PPL may be a good money generator for the PCB and for that reason it is most probably on the cards.

  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 8, 2008, 23:27 GMT

    Kamran; not so long ago you devoted an entire thread called "ICL - IPL what the Hell?" It sucked most people in agreeing to your views. Now, how way through this tournament you are talking about the genius and the dirt of IPL The point is as we all know, IPL's instant success is based on the idea of the ICL. They simple steal the idea and dumped them like you say in dirt. At the moment the tournament is in momentum (the most hyped and buzz word that is being used in that tournament by every Tom Dick and Harry and I hate its repititon) and people are already judging it as the ultimate of cricket tournaments. Already 28 matches have taken place and 29 more to go, there will definitely be a time that people would say enough is enough. Excess of everything is bad.

    This tournament if shortened should have been much better also, the glitz and glamour of the cheerleaders should have been restricted to the opening and closing ceremonies only. Like, all that glistens is not gold, all that glitz and glamour is not cricket either. About ICL all I can do is sympathize with them and remind them this famous quote: "Never be a pioneer, because the pioneers get scalped by the Indians and it is the settlers who come and reap the harvest." So, the IPL are the settlers but, who knows? Like you said," it is an instant global buzz and immediate imitators must have an exciting future—until, of course, the next brilliant idea comes along and grinds today’s crumb of genius into the dirt." It is possible, in fact talks of playing a T20 tournament at Lords is already on the table. Billionaire Allen Stanford offers $20 million winner-takes-all pot for his next T20 tournament in the Caribbean. Some dolts are talking about PPL in Pakistan. The only reason IPL with all its follies is still a success is because of the fact that India is a huge country and majority of the people's only entertainment is TV, cinema and cricket. For them its a Philosophy Chocolate Ice Cream 3 In 1 Ultra Rich Shampoo, Conditioner and Body Wash at a discount store.

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  • JAVED A KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 8, 2008, 23:27 GMT

    Kamran; not so long ago you devoted an entire thread called "ICL - IPL what the Hell?" It sucked most people in agreeing to your views. Now, how way through this tournament you are talking about the genius and the dirt of IPL The point is as we all know, IPL's instant success is based on the idea of the ICL. They simple steal the idea and dumped them like you say in dirt. At the moment the tournament is in momentum (the most hyped and buzz word that is being used in that tournament by every Tom Dick and Harry and I hate its repititon) and people are already judging it as the ultimate of cricket tournaments. Already 28 matches have taken place and 29 more to go, there will definitely be a time that people would say enough is enough. Excess of everything is bad.

    This tournament if shortened should have been much better also, the glitz and glamour of the cheerleaders should have been restricted to the opening and closing ceremonies only. Like, all that glistens is not gold, all that glitz and glamour is not cricket either. About ICL all I can do is sympathize with them and remind them this famous quote: "Never be a pioneer, because the pioneers get scalped by the Indians and it is the settlers who come and reap the harvest." So, the IPL are the settlers but, who knows? Like you said," it is an instant global buzz and immediate imitators must have an exciting future—until, of course, the next brilliant idea comes along and grinds today’s crumb of genius into the dirt." It is possible, in fact talks of playing a T20 tournament at Lords is already on the table. Billionaire Allen Stanford offers $20 million winner-takes-all pot for his next T20 tournament in the Caribbean. Some dolts are talking about PPL in Pakistan. The only reason IPL with all its follies is still a success is because of the fact that India is a huge country and majority of the people's only entertainment is TV, cinema and cricket. For them its a Philosophy Chocolate Ice Cream 3 In 1 Ultra Rich Shampoo, Conditioner and Body Wash at a discount store.

  • khansahab786@gmail.com on May 8, 2008, 23:39 GMT

    Is this pure cricket, pure entertainment or a hybrid of the two? How do the tempting and well endowed cheerleaders fit into this "gentleman's game"? These are just some of the questions that have bamboozled the astute cricket observer. Surely this cannot be pure cricket as we know it, where norms and bounds are recognised and accepted.

    The two most salient points I could extract from Mr Abbasi's judicious prose are the general uninspiring performances of Pakistanis in this format and the folly of creating the PPL. Instead of causing embarrassment to itself and the nation, the PCB should focus wholeheartedly on improving the domestic structure, however that may be done. Should this league manage to acquire international players, the most damaging feature of such a venture would be that Pakistani players would appear lacklustre amongst their Indian, Australian and South African counterparts. But knowing the way the world is going these days, the PPL may be a good money generator for the PCB and for that reason it is most probably on the cards.

  • shiraz on May 9, 2008, 0:18 GMT

    Pakistani team standard has gone down the drains. Just look what happened today in Kolkata vs Bangalore match , Taibu played and pakistan national team's opener could not make his position in the team. Just look what Afridi and Malik are doing or should i say Malik and Afridi WHO...They have done absolutely nothing. Pakistan circket needs a overhauling specially in the batting department. Its mind boggling what Umer Gul said about Ganguly on his first match. Can somebody tell Umer that the guy has more than 10,000 runs and Guys like Ponting , Hussey are playing under him with out any issues. Pls keep the microphones away from our players since they cant handle it !!! I think sohail tanvir has done good job so far and Misbah has been unlucky in the two games he has played. Other than that i dont find any thing for pakistani fans to be hopeful off.

  • Martin Hook on May 9, 2008, 4:35 GMT

    Very nice article Kamran. You have hit the nail on proverbial head. IPL is a huge success story and I can see a very fit and strong indian 20/20 and ODI team coming out of it. India right now has about 10 fast bowlers of international class, 25 batsman of staure and 6-8 spinners ready for international duty. It has never happened before. Since I am a pakistan cricket fan I think pakistan is better served by involving its first class players in ICL where they would be accepted and let more established stars play in IPl where they can be fine tuned by likes of Warne, McGrath and Buchanan. It is definitely not hurting that Asif is bowling with McGrath and not Shoaib who can only be destructive to the competitor. Over all I think Indian cricket is in the league of itys own and rest of the cricketing world would soon be playing catch-up.

  • Karan on May 9, 2008, 6:29 GMT

    Who ever had doubts about IPL, they have been answered. In my previous posts I had mentioned that this will be great success and revive cricket in a big way. This tournament has seen some great cricket, crowds have been extraordinary and most matches have been well contested. Good thing is all players are taking it seriously and giving 100%. This has been great for Indian cricket with a chance for many youngsters to shine and also get tips from the greats inthe game, players like Abhishek nayar, Gony, Dinda, Shikhar dhawan and so many more. I am also pleased to see that the top scorers are Sehwag, Gambhir and Rohit Sharma in a tournament which has gilly, kallis, boucher, hussey, watson, graeme smith, jayasurya, sangakara, jayawardena, and in bowling the leaders are Zaheer, Pathan, Nehra which is also good to see. Some of the international players have shown their class, warne, mcgrath, pollock, asif, murali, hussey, they have been simply great and proven that they still rule.

  • karan on May 9, 2008, 6:41 GMT

    With your comments, i do not agree, i think those pak players which are really good have shined. You see Gul has bowled very well, Asif has bowled decently and I think mcgrath has helped him a lot (along with Yo mahesh, Maharoof, Delhi has one of the best attacks) But some of your players have not lived up, I was expecting Afridi to really kill in this form but I think it is Rohit Sharma and Gilly who are doing the killing. Afridi has to fire with the bat and last match makes me feel that he just may do it. Shoaib Malik has big time disappointed, although with viru, Gambhir & Shikhar in good form he has has limited opportunity. But yesterday he gave 15 runs in one over to Gony which was ridiculous. He made me loose 2 grands to the punters ! cant he bowl in the block hole ! Akmal has also not done well and Warne made him open in the first 2-3 matches. I think yousuf Pathan & Asnodkar are doing well for Royals. Yesterday lots of cheer for Akhtar, just for crowds sake i hope he lives up.

  • Lokesh on May 9, 2008, 8:14 GMT

    PCB should utilize the IPL to advance pak cricket. For starters, IPL can have 2-3 teams that represent Pak cities like Lahore/Karachi. Some matches can be held in pakistan as well. this will give fringe pak players to test their skills at international level. once pak spectators buy the concept and pak players start excelling, pak can consider their own version of IPL. But now they should join the IPL's bandwagon.

  • saptarshi on May 9, 2008, 8:23 GMT

    dont just try to open a blog for the sake of it. Besides while shoaib malik is not doing well, Afridi and Gul are performing reasonably well. Misbah still hasn't got much chances and also his team is performing poorly. Also your blog clearly shows how much displeased ur at the success of IPL but thats understandable considering ur political alliances.

  • raja sher yar on May 9, 2008, 8:46 GMT

    Pakistan has a good twenty team, some of it t20 world cup player even took part in ICL. Thumbs up to India for providing us with good entertainment, i being a Pakistani, was first time more eager to see young talent. players that you never heard of. and there are some really good exciting young players. it i a festival for Super tars, but a platform for Indian young players. this is not a tournament where you give ranking to international players for their performance, but you can give a young cricketer a new grade. Pakistan and India matches are the most pressure matches for them, now you see them bond to play together, it takes time my dear. IPL has change the future of cricket.

  • Vikas on May 9, 2008, 9:02 GMT

    England yes,but Australia probably no.Australia simply doesn't have the fan base nor the population in its country to support a cricket league in the mode of the IPL.Indian enterpreneurs are probably the saviest in the world in their business acumen and English cricket bosses could learn a lesson or two from them in how to generate money from their age old traditional game!