West Indies Cricket July 11, 2011

Sammy and friends

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From M Swaroop, India

There is a theory doing the rounds that with Darren Sammy in the XI, West Indies will always be either one batsman or one bowler short. It is an easy argument to make. Sammy, the batsman, struggles to make an impact because he does not have the defensive technique to play a long innings. Sammy, the bowler, is a holder, and he cannot be more than that at his pace. The only successful attacking Test bowler at Sammy's pace in recent memory is Shaun Pollock, and Sammy doesn't have the skill or the control to be him.

On the morning of the first day of the third Test, I prayed West Indies would have the courage to play one batsman less, and pick Kemar Roach to bowl with Fidel Edwards, Ravi Rampaul, Sammy and Devendra Bishoo. In this series, every time West Indies had the Indian batting on the mat, the batsmen found a passage of uninspiring bowling to capitalise on - Harbhajan and Raina did it in the first Test, Laxman and Raina in the second. A fifth bowler might have helped, I thought; a fresh pair of legs, some variety.

Moreover, the extra batsman hasn't done much. On Friday, with Rampaul missing - an unfortunate, unforeseeable problem - West Indies still had India in trouble, at 18 for 2 and at 172 for 5, and both times, the bowlers who were doing the damage were too tired to continue. A fifth bowler might really have helped. But with Sammy in the fold, a fifth bowler means a batsman less. It means Carlton Baugh bats at six, and Sammy at seven - not confidence-inspiring at all. Which brings us to that easy argument again - that Sammy is a fielder, not good enough as a bowler or batsman.

Let's look at the tougher argument. That West Indies have been struggling to compete in Test matches is obvious. They won a Test after two years against Pakistan earlier this year. They ignominiously lost to Bangladesh at home some time ago when their top players walked out of the series. The board and the players’ association are locked in a battle that resembles a socialist trade union clamour for better pay and working conditions. There are player strikes, suspensions, mysterious selection decisions, controversial interviews, talks of corruption, mishandling, unnecessary interference.

For ten years now, since Walsh retired, West Indies have been fissured and fractured by politics. Sammy's appointment as captain - he's known as a board man, rather than the players' association man his predecessor Gayle was - happened in this context. He was never a regular in the Test side, and in the shorter versions, his report card read, "Can do better". His appointment came as a bolt in the blue. And it was well understood that his role as a captain is similar to his role as a bowler - hold until the next guy is fit and ready. Sammy has done a lot more.

Before Sammy, there were flashes of team-play, in that unexpected Champions Trophy win, for instance. Fans of the team, like myself, have consoled ourselves in individual brilliance - Lara's exploits against Murali, Chanderpaul's invincible runs of attrition, Gayle's random, merciless attacks, and Jerome Taylor's freak spell.

For the first time in ten years, under Sammy, West Indies are playing like a team, pooling in collective resources to punch above their weight - in a manner that reminds one of the way New Zealand play their cricket.

In this home season, they drew with Pakistan, and have troubled India more than most imagined. On Friday, with Rampaul out of the XI, it would have been easy for West Indies to bend over and submit. But two bowlers and Sammy - who, by the way, always bowls better than he looks like he's bowling - all carrying niggles, made India fight for their runs. Except in that last hour, when the bowlers were too tired to make an impact, they traded on equal terms with the Indian batting line-up. Sammy has brought this will to toil to the team, along with heart and commitment

When he's badgered in the press conferences, his responses are never tired, they are honest. When he is asked about his own merit, he responds with belief. When asked about selection, Gayle's for instance, he responds with a shrug, it's not his job to comment. And that is exactly how he plays his cricket, and how he captains the side - with enthusiasm and devotion that belies his natural talent. Maintaining his morale, his conviction amid this pressure from the media and the players is admirable enough; that he infects his team-mates with this courage is the sign of a true leader.

Today's West Indian cricketers are still only discovering how to win, and Sammy is pushing them to discover it together, as a team. Sammy is still doing a holding job, he knows that. When Bravo, Bishoo or Barath are ready, he will, most probably, make way. But he is doing a lot more than he was expected to - it is just a question of time, and a little luck, before results follow.

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  • sarigat aejaz on April 2, 2012, 14:09 GMT

    2 match again aus 20 is good n batting order also do mind that 1 time pollard n sammy fail but in 20 used same order n one russal try as open n test also

  • David on March 23, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    Many brilliant comments here. Sherlock says what I feel better than I could ever express it. I like Gayle very much. But he is a juvenile character. He cares not a whit about the need for the WI cricket team to play better than they have been for about 15 years. The people of the WI took great pride in the exploits of their cricket team for nearly twenty years of almost unrivalled dominance. Gayle and Sarwan have remained school boys. Content to have their egos stroked. Wine, women and song. Probably more too. They didn't give two hoots when the decline worsened under their watch. Gayle so detached, masquerading as cool, and Sarwan seemingly unable to motivate himself. To hear their vocal supporters say it you would think they had test averages of 60 instead of 40. I say they should both go away and play Twenty20 and make big bucks and indulge themselves with all that comes with superstardom. But let the WI alone. Go away Mr. Gayle and Mr. Sarwan.

  • Sherlock on February 28, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    My friends, as I read an article from Tony Cozier, and with the WICB....chris Gayle heart is in the wrong place..and I would like everyone that wants him back to stop it. With Gayle and a few others on the side for more than 10 years the WI were losing even with Gayle...scoring a hundred in the one test, along with Sarwan...and in the others hardly getting in double figures..the WI are playing as a unitl, lets keep it that way and build on that and I will sat to the board...stop it leave Gayle on the side lines. A comment from the Jamaican government will put it to the WI's community leaders but I say tell the Jamaican government the pack it up....Gayle is West Indian and when he plays for JA find but when he plays for the West Indies team there is pride on the line..It should not matter where you are from in the WI's. Enjoy this article..

  • david on February 26, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    sammy and the coach must go sawran and ramdin must be in the team

  • Woody on February 20, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    I must say that I am a staunch West Indies supporter who migrated to US in 1984 and it pains my heart to see such mediocre cricket from past mighty WI teams. Back in those day, the players had passion, guts and skills and did not think that they could be beaten by any other country. They played under less than perfect conditions, the evoironment was more hostile and they got paid very little money. They played for the love of the game. I echo a lot of the sentiments mention previously about Sammy and his abilities. If Sammy cannot make the team as a significant contributer in batting, fielding or bowling; then, perhaps, he should serving in a different capacitity in WI cricket. To be successful, it starts from the top and all the way down to the ground keepers. Players have to be paid and put in the right enviornment to succeed and the 11 BEST play MUST be playing. WI cricket is being so mis-managed, that is why someone like Sammy gets to be captain.

  • Nat on February 18, 2012, 22:50 GMT

    Equally, if Andre Russell began to show some leadership skills I would pick him instead of Sammy as he is a far more talented cricketer and not of the old frame of mind. WI cricket has visibly been on the rise since Brian Lara's retirement but it needs now a leader who will turn small successes into victories against good opposition. Darren Bravo, Kieran Powell, Jerome Taylor, Andre Russell and Devendra Bishoo are supremely talented cricketers. It can be done. A true leader is the path.

  • Nat on February 18, 2012, 22:43 GMT

    For me, the Sammy issue is a question of what one wants from WI cricket, success or flair - the latter will likely come as a result of the former in my view. The problem in the recent past has clearly been the lack of a good leader. There is no denying the talent of Sarwan, Gayle and even someone like Xavier Marshall, but they have never been able to fulfil their potential because of the lack of a good leader. Brian Lara and Chris Gayle, probably the two most talented individuals of recent years, both enjoyed the spotlight more than a good team win; thus I feel they needed to be led not lead. Whilst West Indies tries to climb the rankings, they need a captain who creates unity - Sammy appears to be doing this in a way that no other captain has done in recent years. Therefore, whilst the team attempts to rebuild itself Sammy should remain captain. Talents like Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor and D.J.Bravo must prove that their hearts are with WI cricket before gaining immediate selection.

  • real07 on February 17, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    since we're on the topic of west indies captaincy, i think ramdin would make a very good captain cause i think he is a great keeper and a very good batsman who continues to improve.i do think though the people who are running west indies cricket for the last 15 to 20 years has hurt west indies cricket.e.g when west indies were on top they never brought in the young players to gain the necessary experience to carry on the success,e.g when west indies were beating teams 5 zero that wasn't necessary,at 3 zero in a 5 test series the coaches and those in charge could say wait i know we could win 5 zero and it will be all great but that is a great time to bring in the young players to gain experience cause they are the future and even though we lose the last 2 we still won the series and the younger players know what it is to play against other great players.even today west indies still has that same problem of living in the moment.i would like to see them run the team like football clubs.

  • real07 on February 17, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    i am going to get straight to the point,personally i don't rate sammy as a test cricketer,simply because he is not good at one of the two things a test cricket needs at this level and that is, you have to either a good bawler or a good batsman and he is neither.he may be a good leader but the team is hurting by him not being an impact bawler or batsman and for this reason west indies will always show flashes of being a great team.all that being said west indies has a lot of talent in the batting department but is a fast baller short and i mean someone who is 6ft4 or 6ft5 who bawls at 90+miles an hour so that they can scare batsmen on any surface.edwards and roach has the speed but they do not have the height to get the bounce to scare batsmen from coming on the front foot all the time and making it look easy in the middle especially for the batsmen who has to come after them.right now they have the spinners but they lack that one fast bawler and no team can win with only 5 batsmen.

  • Benise on February 14, 2012, 2:38 GMT

    Sammy has proven himself to be an effective captain of the WI team. I think west indian need to stop looking at talented, indiscipline players and focus on what is best for the team. We need people who will look at playing for WI team as their job and be fully dedicated to that. For those who talk about Sarwan, i think he has proven that he cannot captain a side. Gayle is not commited to the team as a whole, he more committed to making a name for himself and money. Let's move on with the team we have and with hard work and dedication, i believe WI cricket will be where they deserve to be...on Top. Sammy keep improving ur game and ignore all the critics...they will never stop no matter how successful u are.

  • sarigat aejaz on April 2, 2012, 14:09 GMT

    2 match again aus 20 is good n batting order also do mind that 1 time pollard n sammy fail but in 20 used same order n one russal try as open n test also

  • David on March 23, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    Many brilliant comments here. Sherlock says what I feel better than I could ever express it. I like Gayle very much. But he is a juvenile character. He cares not a whit about the need for the WI cricket team to play better than they have been for about 15 years. The people of the WI took great pride in the exploits of their cricket team for nearly twenty years of almost unrivalled dominance. Gayle and Sarwan have remained school boys. Content to have their egos stroked. Wine, women and song. Probably more too. They didn't give two hoots when the decline worsened under their watch. Gayle so detached, masquerading as cool, and Sarwan seemingly unable to motivate himself. To hear their vocal supporters say it you would think they had test averages of 60 instead of 40. I say they should both go away and play Twenty20 and make big bucks and indulge themselves with all that comes with superstardom. But let the WI alone. Go away Mr. Gayle and Mr. Sarwan.

  • Sherlock on February 28, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    My friends, as I read an article from Tony Cozier, and with the WICB....chris Gayle heart is in the wrong place..and I would like everyone that wants him back to stop it. With Gayle and a few others on the side for more than 10 years the WI were losing even with Gayle...scoring a hundred in the one test, along with Sarwan...and in the others hardly getting in double figures..the WI are playing as a unitl, lets keep it that way and build on that and I will sat to the board...stop it leave Gayle on the side lines. A comment from the Jamaican government will put it to the WI's community leaders but I say tell the Jamaican government the pack it up....Gayle is West Indian and when he plays for JA find but when he plays for the West Indies team there is pride on the line..It should not matter where you are from in the WI's. Enjoy this article..

  • david on February 26, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    sammy and the coach must go sawran and ramdin must be in the team

  • Woody on February 20, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    I must say that I am a staunch West Indies supporter who migrated to US in 1984 and it pains my heart to see such mediocre cricket from past mighty WI teams. Back in those day, the players had passion, guts and skills and did not think that they could be beaten by any other country. They played under less than perfect conditions, the evoironment was more hostile and they got paid very little money. They played for the love of the game. I echo a lot of the sentiments mention previously about Sammy and his abilities. If Sammy cannot make the team as a significant contributer in batting, fielding or bowling; then, perhaps, he should serving in a different capacitity in WI cricket. To be successful, it starts from the top and all the way down to the ground keepers. Players have to be paid and put in the right enviornment to succeed and the 11 BEST play MUST be playing. WI cricket is being so mis-managed, that is why someone like Sammy gets to be captain.

  • Nat on February 18, 2012, 22:50 GMT

    Equally, if Andre Russell began to show some leadership skills I would pick him instead of Sammy as he is a far more talented cricketer and not of the old frame of mind. WI cricket has visibly been on the rise since Brian Lara's retirement but it needs now a leader who will turn small successes into victories against good opposition. Darren Bravo, Kieran Powell, Jerome Taylor, Andre Russell and Devendra Bishoo are supremely talented cricketers. It can be done. A true leader is the path.

  • Nat on February 18, 2012, 22:43 GMT

    For me, the Sammy issue is a question of what one wants from WI cricket, success or flair - the latter will likely come as a result of the former in my view. The problem in the recent past has clearly been the lack of a good leader. There is no denying the talent of Sarwan, Gayle and even someone like Xavier Marshall, but they have never been able to fulfil their potential because of the lack of a good leader. Brian Lara and Chris Gayle, probably the two most talented individuals of recent years, both enjoyed the spotlight more than a good team win; thus I feel they needed to be led not lead. Whilst West Indies tries to climb the rankings, they need a captain who creates unity - Sammy appears to be doing this in a way that no other captain has done in recent years. Therefore, whilst the team attempts to rebuild itself Sammy should remain captain. Talents like Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor and D.J.Bravo must prove that their hearts are with WI cricket before gaining immediate selection.

  • real07 on February 17, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    since we're on the topic of west indies captaincy, i think ramdin would make a very good captain cause i think he is a great keeper and a very good batsman who continues to improve.i do think though the people who are running west indies cricket for the last 15 to 20 years has hurt west indies cricket.e.g when west indies were on top they never brought in the young players to gain the necessary experience to carry on the success,e.g when west indies were beating teams 5 zero that wasn't necessary,at 3 zero in a 5 test series the coaches and those in charge could say wait i know we could win 5 zero and it will be all great but that is a great time to bring in the young players to gain experience cause they are the future and even though we lose the last 2 we still won the series and the younger players know what it is to play against other great players.even today west indies still has that same problem of living in the moment.i would like to see them run the team like football clubs.

  • real07 on February 17, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    i am going to get straight to the point,personally i don't rate sammy as a test cricketer,simply because he is not good at one of the two things a test cricket needs at this level and that is, you have to either a good bawler or a good batsman and he is neither.he may be a good leader but the team is hurting by him not being an impact bawler or batsman and for this reason west indies will always show flashes of being a great team.all that being said west indies has a lot of talent in the batting department but is a fast baller short and i mean someone who is 6ft4 or 6ft5 who bawls at 90+miles an hour so that they can scare batsmen on any surface.edwards and roach has the speed but they do not have the height to get the bounce to scare batsmen from coming on the front foot all the time and making it look easy in the middle especially for the batsmen who has to come after them.right now they have the spinners but they lack that one fast bawler and no team can win with only 5 batsmen.

  • Benise on February 14, 2012, 2:38 GMT

    Sammy has proven himself to be an effective captain of the WI team. I think west indian need to stop looking at talented, indiscipline players and focus on what is best for the team. We need people who will look at playing for WI team as their job and be fully dedicated to that. For those who talk about Sarwan, i think he has proven that he cannot captain a side. Gayle is not commited to the team as a whole, he more committed to making a name for himself and money. Let's move on with the team we have and with hard work and dedication, i believe WI cricket will be where they deserve to be...on Top. Sammy keep improving ur game and ignore all the critics...they will never stop no matter how successful u are.

  • Shelsea on January 29, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Darren is a great captain I will not say know but I want mr Chris gayle to come back but the wicb just do not want him to back why I do not know the CEO just do not like the man Gayle was doing his best for WI cricket as I know gayle as did a lot for WI cricket and CEO and them doing like gayle did not do nun for them

  • vivisthegreatest on January 23, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    The reason WI struggle so much is the intransigence and unaccountability of the Board and Selectors. The best players are not picked because of the Board's my-way-or-the-highway attitude, their untruatworthiness and their unwillingness to discuss or justify anything they do. These people forget that they are there to serve WI cricket. You know what they say about absolute power. Here's another example. Of course this breeds resentment among players, when you see players of definitely less skill being chosen, and you are not even being considered because of where you're from or maybe some small criticism you might have made - even though it was because you cared about Windies cricket! I feel sorry for Sammy. He's a likable fellow, but a hardworking yes-man, pure and simple. It's ludicrous to justify someone's pick if they can't make the team as batsman, bowler or wicketkeeper.

  • Stephen Sealy, Author on January 17, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    Leave my country man alone! His biggest attribute is Attitude.

  • lesroy sutherland on January 10, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    in the first place why is sammy made captain because he is yes man he cannot bat nor captain he have no clue if someone is captain of the ship and cannot sail the ship why that person made to be leader sammy is stoping the team from moving forward in he position there could be another batsman or andre russel could be added he can bowl field and much better than sammy this cricket board is laughing stock that why west cricket is going down the drain because of the board this coach is clueless droping chanderpaul sarwan and chris gayle these three bat can stand up any bowling attack in the world but then they been thrown out of the one day and test but because of guyana goverment that is why chandepaul is in team one best batsman in the world

  • Roger Brand on December 25, 2011, 22:38 GMT

    I have watched West Indies cricket for the better part of 40 years, and in none of those times has there been a captain who has been unable to significantly contribute with eith er the bat or the ball.

    A captain has to first and foremost be able to hold a place in the team, without the priviledge of captaincy. Being 'a board man' is not sufficient qualification, if the West Indies really want to move up the rankings.

  • bangaseason on December 17, 2011, 23:56 GMT

    I have read most of the comments above and it seems that bloggers are praising Sammy as captain for the main reason so that West Indies remaines one level above the minnows. ian Bishop summed it up in one sentence "Sammy cannot be picked on the side so that he could bat at No.8 and bowl 4 overs in a match" . Sammy is no Mike Brearley of past Enlish cricket. Sammy knows littl or nothing about captaining a side as everytime by luck West Indies are on top in any match he somehow does something to let the match slip away. Giving 100 % effort without skills and talent is wasting time.he singly upsets the balance of the team because he "has to be picked" it would be better if he captains the side as 12 th man because really and truly he is a non-playing captain who is just there to make up numbers.

  • dv on November 28, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    Sammy is one of the best captains WI have. He may not have skills equal to some of the greats of past, but he gives more than 100%, whenever he is on the field, and sometimes it is good to prefer attitude over skills.

    I can see WI climbing upwards to top 4 teams in next 2 years.

    Best of luck...

  • Mike on November 28, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    For W/indies to be competitive we have to get another genuine pacer. For this to happen and still keep Sammy as capt (he's doing a great job)would be to attempt to create a specialist keeper /batsman to play at #6. Simmons is the ideal choice. He should make the effort to try to become a specialist keeper since it is becoming more difficult for him to play as a batsman alone. He has the talent and should put in the effort to improve his keeping. The WICB should at least try him out on the A tours. An ideal team would be Bharath, Braithwaithe, Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Simmons (wk), Russel, Sammy, Rampaul, Edwards, bishoo

  • peringadan on November 28, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    we are expecting the following team against India 1)simmons,bharath,bravo,powell,samuels,pollard,ramdin,russel,narine,sammy,rampaul (instead of powell we can use either edwards or roach)

    dwane bravo as expected to be the captain in future, he is eenrgetic and good leader. sammy is good but no too a decision maker and stable performer.

    windies has a good young side dont spoil them by unnecessery board issues, if you can utilise the current youth you can grasp the position in first 5 agin soon.....best of luck

  • clyde pierre on November 6, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    A captain is good as his team. Its the opposing teams that is making Sammy & Gibson look good by not taking us seriuosly. Bangladesh did and it backfire on them India will not make that mistake again as they did when they were last here. Tell me how do we expect to give India a good fight with only one experienced player (Shiv) and leave the the few good ones who are still playing, eg Gayle. Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo or even Pollard. Russell is also a better Allrounder who should be in the team and I'm almost sure we have a better Fast bowler than Kemar at the moment he sadly lost his form for some time now Please Mr Selectors let's have the best team representing WI and CAPTAIN.

  • Earl J on November 3, 2011, 13:41 GMT

    I know that the team is trying and playing better.Take into account the opposition.Bangladesh were going alone at a rapid rate and were getting runs easily.If you watched the field placings which was bad.Sammy was just waiting for the batsmen to get themselves out as they did.Any one watching who thought that Bangladesh did not have a chance to win is crazy.Bangladesh captain summed it up correctly in his post game interview.Shakib stroke was terrible.This win had nothing to do with Sammy having the team playing together.WI have played just like Bangladesh is playing now.Sammy is lucky to have good players playing, with him been the weakest link.Which is more that some previous captains had.I am not saying that Sammy should be removed,but our team could be stronger with addition of other players who would and have played under his captaincy.I think that we are missing a big opportunity to be more of a force in all forms of the game.I do believe that we have the talent to beat any team.

  • sam skeete on October 22, 2011, 11:42 GMT

    i fully agree with your comments 150% sammy is doing a great job he is not bless with the tallent of the others but his will and commitment is there for all west indies supporters to see who have been watching them for the last 10 years ,but he needs to do more with his batting getting runs from him is not the issue we would love him to get runs but as a captain batting in the lower order he has to be more responsible set an example by spending time in the wicket be a daniel vitori

  • ravi shankar on October 13, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    Since Ambrose & Walsh quit windies have been struggling to find pacers of quality.they finally have the nucleus of a good pace pack with the likes of Taylor,Edwards,Rampaul,Roach & Russel.it would be criminal keeping them outta the 11 to make place for Sammy.The 1st ODI of the ongoing series against Bangladesh saw Windies having their best 11 on the field with the exception of Gayle.Throw him in and you have a potential champion side.

  • DEV on September 26, 2011, 20:39 GMT

    I greatly admired the zest and energy sammy has brought to the team. but we would be better team with the likes of Gayle, Sarwan,Chanderpaul,Taylor,the Bravo brothers in it.We need these experienced players to groom our youngsters and then the world will be surprised with the transformation of our cricket.

  • K Harry on September 15, 2011, 16:57 GMT

    Great Article!! I support Sammy as captain. Even Lara was not able to inspire his players like Sammy is doing. He installs in his young players their self belief to win. They just have to be more consistent. The 2011 Dominica match is one to recall, when they gave the WI people something to scream and clap with joy. Of course like all cricketers, Sammy needs improvement, and best of all, he know this, and I am sure he is smart enough to work with the greats like Amberose and Walsh to improve his bowling, and with Haynes to improve his batting. Continue believing Sammy, results will follow!!

  • John Lewis on August 11, 2011, 2:00 GMT

    Why are we so mean towards Sammy? He may not have as well as he is able in batting, but he has shown that he is a skilful bowler and energetic fielder. In fact, he has done well as captain. Are we not seeing much improvement in the team under his able leadership? If we do not want him as captain, who is the next choice? Obviously, it would be Chanderpaul since he has the experience as captain and is one of the most experienced and successful player on the team. Nevertheless, Chanderpaul does not need this additional stress. he needs to be left alone to concentrate on his batting and getting the team out of trouble whenever necessary. Let us give Sammy a change. He is such an honest, hardworking, and admirable cricketer.

  • Salman Saad Ahsan on July 27, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    Sammy is my favourite allrounder.He is very calm and softspoken person.He is doing a very tough job by leading his side as a captain and as a performer.I like his game.I like his game more than Shane Watson.The way he has improved his batting I think in the next couple of years he will turn into one of the devastating batsmen in world cricket.

  • SIMONVILLER on July 26, 2011, 20:04 GMT

    What will it take for us to lay off OF Sammy ? Elevev men play on a team ,they mostly fail ,but one man is constantly blamed for everything that goes wrong !! Let's move on from Sammy .

  • Damian on July 24, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    Sammy may not be the best all round cricketer but he has this WI team playing as a "team". I respect the batsmanship of Gayle but for West Indies he only performs and scores big runs when the series already lost. Or if he in the IPL playing swipe cricket. So for Sammy's record as captain is looking better than Gayle's. The team looks as if it has belief in itself and we the West Indians are beginning to believe again. Nuff Respect to you Sammy!

  • con tringas on July 22, 2011, 4:54 GMT

    i think the biggest problem is the batting we need the opening batsman to make big starts like the old days .we a keeper that can really bat and some where down the order there should a place for andr. russell he must be perseverd with he could be a great alrounder.another think is there are no more tailenders at test level if you want to become a great side. i say bring back gayle but with the right mindset and give barath an oppertunity to play with him.i think the windies are on the right track good luck to them, the world needs a strong windies and i think when they come they will blow every out of the water.

  • manna on July 19, 2011, 22:05 GMT

    I strongly believe WI govt. should get invlove and force the WI cricket board to sort out gayle issue and I also believe Since D. Bravo and L. Simmons have occassional W. keeping experience then why not choosec one of them and make them someone like Sangakara. Then you have option to bring back Roach. My Best XI will be for Test team: Chris Gayle, Adrian Barath, Darren Bravo(Wk), Sarwan(C), M. Samuels, Chanderpaul, Andree Russell, KEmar roach, Fidel Edwards, Ravi Rampaul, D. Bishoo. Extra: Kirk Edwards, Jerome Taylor, L. Simmons, A. Martin

    And then see who can beat west indies. I pray WI see my comment and have a look if I wrote anything wrong. Please just do it. WI need chris Gayle.

  • metman on July 19, 2011, 0:26 GMT

    Well said Ram !From the time the captaincy was not given back to Sarwan,he has been sulking,and only doing that much as to maintain a play in the team !Gayle needs to grow up !He cannot disrespect and have things to say about Sammy,the coach,the Board,past players,present players ,the WI crowd and everything West Indian and expect to be included along with the SAME SAMMY as capt.,and Gibson as coach.As a Jamaican of all people Gayle,should know better.You don't 'diss' people,and then want to mingle with them !Those people will be forever 'looking over their shoulders',and you too will be doing the same !As I have said in another forum,Sammy WILL be taking the team to Bangladesh and India,and Gibson WILL CONTINUE as bowling coach,and you Chris Gayle will be on the outside looking in,AGAIN !It is also crystal clear to everybody ,except you of course ,why your Jamaican Board members,and the JCB are not saying anything on your behalf.

  • Warren Mendes on July 18, 2011, 17:34 GMT

    Say what you will about Chris Gayle, but the truth is that he is the only playing in the current crop of West Indians who plays with the swagger of old. I like Sammy, but he's a bit soft in his approach, and he may not be one of the best choices, and we have to always play our top eleven to have a chance against the likes of England, South Africa and Australia (notice I left out India). Couldn't he sit on the side lines and guide the team or something?

  • Ivan S on July 18, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    I don't get the argument that Sammy doesn't deserve his place as a bowler. He has a Test bowling average of 29.28 (that's even better than Jimmy Anderson, who is acclaimed as the world's second best best pace bowler behind Dale Steyn). And a Test economy rate of 2.70 is something special. Every side needs a bowler who can put the brakes on when conditions favour the batsmen.

  • Bruce Aanensen on July 16, 2011, 17:08 GMT

    I believe that Sammy has done better than most of us expected. He is a leader of people. His captaincy technically, when under pressure needs to improve, and it will given the opportunity. To me the one thing he brings that Gayle takes away is the motivation of his players to fight on no matter what the situation. His batting is a big problem and he needs to give some attention to improving his defensive technique. As someone says, his bowling is clearly better than it looks. Much like Sherwin Ganga for T&T in T20's. We are building a good base of bowling especially in the fast bowling with Taylor Roach and Russell waiting in the wings. If Dwayne Bravo can re find his skill as a batsman and good stock bowler, we will be well served in the future. Daren Bravo needs to convert his clear above average tallent to performances that bring hundreds, and Kirk Edwards needs to kick on. I feel that Ronnie Sarwan still has a lot to offer, but needs to get his mindset right.

  • Andre S on July 16, 2011, 3:44 GMT

    This article claims that the team plays united under Sammy, but conveniently leave out the more underlying fracturing of the WI team. Team morale has plummeted, players cannot focus on their batting. Look at Simmons, who came in blazing and under strict "instructions" form coach Gibson looks like one quarter of the player he was just weeks before in the ODI's. As for being united, what about the alleged influence by Sammy to force players to stay away from the WIPA awards, even though the team was in Trinidad at that time? What this series had was commendable bowling by Edwards, Rampaul, Bishoo and Sammy. Only one century made at home in 5 tests, playing against substitute sides. Simply horrible.

  • Delo on July 15, 2011, 23:13 GMT

    Sammy should be captain, period. Most of u who saying he should not be captain are not naming who should be. Those of u who want Bravo are forgetful. Anyone who ask to skip his team's matches to play IPL are no fully dedicated. Bravo may can bat more that Sammy but he can not prevNet losing a Test without taking wickets. Sammys tight bowling can keep a team from running away with a bucket of runs & force a draw if wickets are not falling. We saw that in the Indian series. Sammy's role is of higher marks than the role Anderson Cummings, Eldine Baptiste or Winston Benjamine & the other slower 4th option bowler who played in WI 4-pong attack. The only difference here is that the 4-prong have a spinner and he is taking wickets. Not to mention that Sammy is doing the supurb job that Viv & Lloyd had to worry about. Having said that, I still would support if selectors change plans "after" the team "matures" & use samy as onday & T20 captain only. BUT WI MAIN PROBLEM IS SCORING RUNS.

  • John on July 15, 2011, 18:00 GMT

    WI need Darren Bravo the keeper. Best X1 Gayle, Barat, Sarwan, Darren Bravo (wk), Chanderpaul, Samuels, Dwayne Bravo (capt), Russell, Rampaul, Edwards, Bishoo - this team can play with anyone. Batting to #8; 4 frontline seamers; 1 frontline spinner. Then Samules and Gayle can spin.

  • Trevro C on July 15, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    I believe that Sammy is in the West Indies team because he demonstrates a passion for hard work. He may not be a great batter, but like Frank Worrell did in Australia in 1961, he may be able to inspire the team to win.

    Sometimes being a great motivator can bring victory that being a great player may not.

    Kenneth Forde picked a team that also does not include Darren Bravo who is one of the most promising, if not the most promising of young West Indian batters. What is he smoking? Does he expect Gayle to return to Windies cricket?

  • wesley on July 15, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    well am a st lucian who love supporting west indies and i do believe that the best players should be on the wi team..firstly may i ask is darren sammy a better player than chris gayle..does sammy have 8000 odi runs..am of the frank opinion that the players deliberately showed inconsistent performances during the series inorder to shorten or dampen sammys career..everyone should check the statistics from the series ..he scored 78 runs and took four wickets..(7-3,,which were given to him by the umpire)in the final innings he was disappointed at being given out but didn't he know that what goes around comes around...i believe that the players donot want to achieve any thing under the nonplaying captain..the know that if he is successful he will stay and they donot want a small island man to be untop or captaining them..sammy never wanted to mediate on gayle part so that he could have played the final test match...to me sammy should call for retirement and resign

  • Roger Gopaul on July 15, 2011, 0:49 GMT

    To be quite honest i do think that Sammy has performed as captain,alot better than anyone thought.In these matches against India if the batsmen had made runs,India could have been embarrassed.They do look a cohesive bunch, i think results will come.

  • Anonymous on July 14, 2011, 19:21 GMT

    I am tired of hearing the same stories over and over again ! Get off Sammy's back .Talk about the other ten men on the field ,like our openers,wicket keeper and middle order men .If our front five batsmen ,plus our keeper performs with the bat the way they are supposed to ,then Sammy's batting ,or bowling would not be an issue . What about Baugh's batting ? Sporadic at best ,when compared to class wicket keeper batsmen .The point is that Sammy's selection wouldn't necessarily affect Roach ,or another bowler ,if we had goog and reliable batsmen .As it is now we need three batsmen to make two .

  • george on July 14, 2011, 15:57 GMT

    SAMMY is doing a good job this team is preforming more than our star studed team all u need is self belief and consistency rotate 20 players let them fight for their place little bravo need to think as a cricketer getting out at crucial time dissapointed with sars and gale too big for the game

  • W.I. Fan on July 14, 2011, 12:07 GMT

    I totally agree with this article. Sammy is doing an excellent job as captain.

    I just have one problem with Sammy's captaincy : his insistance that he is at second slip.

    Sammy is not a good enough slip fielder and has reduced Ravi Rampaul's and Fidel Edwards's wicktakes and probalbly robbed these guys of a 5for in the past with his dropped catches. Yes he takes most of the catched that comes his way, but that is not good enough for a 2nd slip in test cricket. And my question is who fields at 2nd slip when Sammy is bowling? I don't see catches going to ground often when Sammy is bowlig. Maybe the guy at 2nd slip when Sammy is bowling should stay there and Sammy should go field at Mid on or Cover where he can talk to his bowlers!

  • jubilees on July 14, 2011, 8:17 GMT

    It is attitude and spirit that is more critical than just competence and skills where a captain is concerned. Sammy has done immensely well not only in keeping the team together in a difficult environment but also getting the best out of all. He has not let the pressures and the circus of Bravo and Gayle's absence distract him or the team and also kept his poise when interacting externally. Lastly I guess its just his apparent 'nice guy' and 'low profile' demeanour that has made him everybody's favorite whipping boy...Lets face facts - he has both bowled and batted better than most expected and better than some others who are 'seen' to be 'more capable'. Good on you Sammy and great spirit. Cricket and West Indies owe a lot to you for their recent survival and gain

  • vivek on July 14, 2011, 5:07 GMT

    SWaroop, reading teh first few lines I too almost concluded that this was another mindless bashing article by another Indian who doesnt really know the intricacies of WI Cricket. But in the end it made me feel happy and proud to konw that you are a fan of WI Cricket. I am fan since ages and now its heartening to see them stand up, try, fight and put a decent show. Leave out rain, or badlight or bad decisions, losing 0-1 is definitely an unexpected result. The 3 B's has the talent, Rampaul is getting responsible, Edwards should hold up and everyone is willing to work hard. Sammy is no Dhoni and doesnt have his resources, but he has the beleif , hardwork and ethic and more importantly he ---prays....That should lead them back on track...I m happy and content while writing this..and hope i ll be a supporter of a top 5 team in futurue. Thanks for posting a nice piece....

  • Alex on July 14, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Great job sammy.Lets face it guys,the front line batsmen have failed.Dont blame my skipper we know that he's not a K.Boyce, B. Julian or N.philip but i do know that he has the ability,lead and he will continue to do so .

  • stan on July 14, 2011, 2:43 GMT

    WI will start winning when specialist openers like Barath and Simmons start to bat more responsibly and score hundreds, then everyone will stop talking about Sammy's deficiencies.The openers must lay the foundation and inspire the rest of the line up.Great teams have productive openers.There must be an endless search for the right opening combination, then Sammy's job will be so much easier. There is no problem with the bowling, fielding or Sammy's captaincy. The man needs consistent production at the top of the order.

  • Mohamed Z. Rahaman on July 13, 2011, 22:47 GMT

    Dedication and captaincy is overrated. The best team will win and when they do their flaws are swept under the rug. Sammy overbowled Bishoo throught the series and it showed towards the end. Sammy and Gibson misread the pitches/wickets especially in the first 2 ODIs against Pakistan. The pitches were bowler friendly, so let's not get ga ga over the bowling and let's not forget that India was without Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Zaheer, Sreesanth & Yuraj...all of whom would have made the team. In the WC, Gibson time and again played it like it was 20/20 & asked players to go for broke, when for the most part 250 was par score. In these last 2 series, when Sarwan was struggling, he should have moved him down a notch or 2 and Sviv & Samuels up. Sarwan did not become a bad batsman overnight and at 31, is hardly done. He looks fitter than he's ever been, so it's probably more mental (as Gayle suggested - that Gibson put doubt in his head). Now, where's my first post??

  • Anonymous on July 13, 2011, 22:20 GMT

    West Indies has make some improvememt,but the selector, there feilding in the world cup was the best i have see for a long time ,West Indies have throw a good chance ,if a team is feilding well they are not far from wining, sammy is a better captain than Gale ,i cannot understand how the present west indies have a better chance wirhout Gale playing, 80% of west indies down fall over last ten year is poor feilding ,and brain dead selector, why bishop is not the select panel

  • robertg on July 13, 2011, 21:17 GMT

    why is everyone so optimistic - india with sachin, zaheer, gambir, sehwag n sreesanth wud ve won 3-0. get real. india even rested munaf n mishrah. Pakistan also sent a short in depth side - tom, dick n harry resting. WI got away there too. Wudda be a next 3-0 loss. WI put d test matches in d rainy season to help buy draws. Team is playing better - Sammy is a weak link - dropped critical catches, holding bowler, not good as a batter.

    I will like to see Dwayne Bravo used as captain batting at six; bring gayle back now. D best team - gayle, barath, daren bravo, chanders, samuels/sarwan, dwayne bravo, baugh/ramdin, taylor/roach, rampaul, edwards n bishoo. Subs - simmons, k edwards, gabriel, pollard, sammy, benn. We cud b top5 wid dat side.

  • praveen on July 13, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    If the third test is not saved by edwards or chandrapaul, the article would have been with different title and different story

  • Mohamed Z. Rahaman on July 13, 2011, 18:11 GMT

    OK, I agree that it's not Sammy fault that he's captain, but the fact remains that he is an average player. If you are going to say that his bowling is good (he's excellent at containment), then you must admit that he's also had very helpful pitches in the last 2 series. You must also concede that India was playing without 3 of their top batsmen & top 2 fast bowlers. My point is, let's not get carried away here. As a Guyanese, I would love to see Bishoo do great things, but frankly, I am not sure that he'll be there for long unless he really develops a few more variations in his arsenel. The players also played for Gayle, but the problem is that there are those on the board who just don't like the man and besides being a terrible game day coach, no one would accuse Gibson of being a people person.

  • marlon austin on July 13, 2011, 17:53 GMT

    why do we have a captain that cannot make the test side on merit and who is keeping out a top class bowler like kemar roach or andre russel from the side and yet we praise him. why isn't dwayne bravo on the test side . if we are picking a player for captaincy alone then we should put the best captain in the caribbean and that is darren ganga. also why havent we recalled dinesh ramdin to test cricket as yet after the fine regional tournament that he had. we in the west indies are intent on destroying the psycological mindset of our sportsmen and we are never picking the best available 11 to play cricket so i feel we need to get rid of those ineffective selectors and board.

  • Frederick on July 13, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    @Ram I totally agree. Sarwan was in training for years under Sir Carl and Brian Lara and in the man's second test at the helm he suffered injury trying to stop a ball from going to the boundary. Gayle, the stand in captain was supposed to make room for him when he returned only for Sarwan to be over looked for Gayle. I think that was the real problem behind what followed with Sarwan. But all in all Sammy did do a good job and i'm not afraid to admit it and I definitely am not an ardent supporter of the guy. My advice to him is improve the batting and then you'll be good to go!

  • Sat on July 13, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    After this series I am now begaining to back the WI after that ODI lost aganist SA when Carl Lang. too a hat trick. Of corase the WI would have lost all 3 test but the way they fight was encouraging. We are putting Sammy down too much. At least the team is more competitive now even though most of the stars are not in the team. Galy you are one of my favorite player and I want you to be back in the team but if you are too big for the game then there should be no place in the team for you. Sammy is not even close to being the best player in the team but for his committment I am supporting him all the way.... God Bless

  • wilson on July 13, 2011, 17:31 GMT

    WI selectors & board must stop overburdening Sammy 2 have a puppet as captain! his cricket is suffering. Right now Sammy is a below average fielder & Batter & just about average bowler. before he was captain @ least he was a decent fielder, he even took good catches. But now he is repeatedly dropping even 'sitters' he should take easily. Sangakarra, Taufeeq Umar & Dravid have all gone on to make key centuries after being dropped by Sammy early in their innings as a result he has helped us lose matches we should have drawn or even won!! In fact he has cost us more runs in dropped catches since being captain than he has made since test debut!! i was SHOCKED when i saw the stats. He takes wickets when the batsmen are attacking from a good position & not as often when they are needed 2 finish off the opponents like Pakistan 190odd/9 @ Warner Park or India 80odd/6 @ Sabina Park. his tactical ineptitude as captain has not helped either. one 5for & win vs weak Pakistan batting is not enuf!!

  • jasvir on July 13, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Sammy did a fabulous job both against India & Pakistan.He is learning captain.He is a good bowler,.lacks pace but,his line & length is amazing.He has a good side, if batting collapeses reduce,.WI will definitely make into first five.

  • Deep Cower on July 13, 2011, 15:40 GMT

    I haven't followed this series closely enough (or recent WI test cricket for that matter!) to add anything to the article or the comments above, but I thought I would write in congratulating the author for this well thought-out and nicely written piece.

  • Anonymous on July 13, 2011, 14:58 GMT

    Great Article. Sammy has done a good job so far as captain dispite the off the field distractions between the WICB and WIPA. The selection commitee needs to inlude the senior players (Chanderpaul/Sarwan/Gayle) in future matches and let destiny take it's course in a tmely manner with reguards to the young bloods taking over . Young Bravo, Barath, Edwards, and Bishoo would benefit better from a more constructive transition. My test selection for upcomming tours is 1.Gayle 2.Barath 3.Sarwan. 4.Da Bravo 5.Chanderpaul 6.Baugh 7.Sammy 8.Rampaul 9.Edwards 10.Dw Bravo 11.Bishoo. 12. Samuels 13.Roach 14.Nash 15.Rusell. Take your pick.

  • avert gonsalves on July 13, 2011, 14:38 GMT

    the west indies team is improving slowly but surely. sammy has done a very good job.in fact he is the best tactical captain i have seen wi produced for a long time. the bowling changes and the field placements are very good. he is also inspiring the guys to perform as a unit. sometimes the least talented makes the best captain. dhoni is a good example. i think russell deserves a place in the team and can bat at 7, behind bough. i would like to see this test team in the future: Gayle, Barath, Kirk, Darren,Chanderpaul,Bough, Russell, Sammy, Rampaul,Fidel, and Bishoo. with Shillingford, Dwayne, Samuel, Roach, Deonarine, Devon and Sarwan as rotation players.

  • Fizz De WHizz on July 13, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    I agree with Ram - rightful captain of WI is RAMNARESH SARWAN . No other country would fail to reinstate ther Captain once he returns from injury. SARWAN was APPOINTED FULL CAPTAIN by WICB, got injured, returned but never got captaincy back. He has been downhill since then. He is a CLASS player, and still 31 years old, in the prime of batsmanship and captaincy. Gayle is arrogant and ignorant. WICB do the right thing and REINSTATE SARWAN as CAPTAIN and everything, EVERYTHING will fall into place. Also, STOP DISRESPECTING CHANDERPAUL, the most capped WI player and third highest run getter, soon to pass RIchards for most test centuries, the saviour of WI batting.

  • Tanel Panton on July 13, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    XLCR high school has produced two WI cricketers in Walsh and Gayle

  • Suhas Cadambi on July 13, 2011, 12:19 GMT

    As a NZ fan, I suppose I empathise with Sammy's situation as it is similar to what Lee Germon went through in the mid 90's - a captain entrusted with the task of dragging a team in dissaray through tough times. Germon was also constantly questioned about his place in the side, and was eventually dumped to make way for Fleming. History remembers Fleming as a great captain and Germon as something as a puppet, but even Fleming acknowledges the role played by Germon in NZ's (then) revival. Here's hoping Sammy receives the credit his efforts deserve.

  • Fonte on July 13, 2011, 12:15 GMT

    Someone asked me whether I thought there was any body else who could be the Captain of the West Indies Team at this time and I replied ofcourse. SO he asked who and my reply was Darren Sammy. I guess I was being deliberate in an effort to turn the question around. Go Sammy Go. The runs will come soon - just tell yourself that they will and the West Indies will prosper under your leadership.

  • Suhas Cadambi on July 13, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    Sammy has certainly done enough as a bowler to merit a place in the side. While it is all very well for fans to fantasise about an all pace attack of Edwards-Rampaul-Roach-Taylor, as pointed out you need someone to hold one end up, and Sammy has done that very well. And when you consider that he bowled Windies to their only test win over the summer, it seems to me that a brittle batting lineup has made a good attack appear worse than it actually is.

    Whether or not Sammy is seen as a Board man, the value of his captaincy is apparent when he is contrasted with Chris Gayle. I'm a huge fan of Gayle the batsman, but his laid-back captaincy style was not what the Windies needed. I also thought his infamous views about test cricket were poorly timed (just before the start of a test series!) and irresponsible. Apart from the heart and commitment he has brought to the team, Sammy's effectively doing the dirty work - a job nobody else seems prepared to do.

  • Ahmed on July 13, 2011, 12:06 GMT

    I think criticizing Sammy for his perceived lack of skillset is pretty fashionable these days. People like Bishop and others have really made this idea popular. I think bowling wise, he has been among wickets. During Pakistan and India test series, he had two 5-wkt hauls if I am not mistaken. Besides, after Walsh, I have not seen Windies being lead in a better manner. Gayle might be a master blaster, but he lacks discipline and his results prove this point. I think if only Sammy improves his defensive technique, he can persisted with for years to come. I am a big fan of Sammy...keep it up dude.

  • Nawaz Ahmed on July 13, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    Good Luck Sammy, I saw almost all the matches with India and concluded that you can be a very good player, bowler, MAN, and a Captain. You have all the qualities which a learner captain should have. Inshallah(God willing) you will become soon a good player. I suggest you to please improve you batting and proctise more and more swingers. Never loose temper and fight with your team members. Guide them nicely with diplomacy. I want to see WI team again on a high level. Try to include Gale in your team. Make him understand about his country. He is an excellent player. OK good luck.

  • ragu on July 13, 2011, 6:40 GMT

    I agree totally with this article. There have been many instances where captains have been appointed merely because of their ability to rally the other 10 players into a cohesive fighting unit. One of the most telling of such appointments was Mike Brearley for England in 1981. England under Ian Botham (as he then was) had lost the first test and had just managed a draw in the second, Botham himself had performed miserably ion the second test and the selectors turned to Brearley and the rest as they say is history!! Mind you Sammy has a greater role to play in the team than Brearley ever did for England. Brearley never bowled (or at least I do not remember him bowling at all). What is wrong with a player being in the team as a captain and bowler? Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis,Bob Willis were mainly bowlers (Akram of course could bat as well). So hope the critics will get of Sammy's back and that the selectors give him more time to grow into his role. Best of Luck to Darren Sammy!!!

  • harikeshan on July 13, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    A great article that puts the fall guy in the limelight...

    Nice to see some fight from the once mighty Windies. Sammy may not be naturally gifted as some of the others but comes across as someone who is willing to battle it out. He has rallied a relatively inexperienced side to holding the fort against a weakened by choice Indian team.

  • Sunny on July 13, 2011, 5:04 GMT

    Not sure what the fuss is about Sammy's inclusion in the team. He is to WI what PK is to Indian team, as a bowler and till the last innings that MS batted in, he was better than MS. Honestly, I am getting tired of this criticism of one of the most charming Captains. His captaincy was brilliant throughout the series. After losing Ravi, he still bowled like a lion heart and used his part timers very cleverly. Who woulda thunk Chanders can still bowl "AND" get a wicket? Come on. Give the man a break. He deserves accolades rather than brick bats. He does not have defense, so what. When you bat at #7/8, what skills do you expect?

  • Ross on July 13, 2011, 4:50 GMT

    Sammy does have far and away the best bowling average of any of the West Indian frontliners so seems to either hold or destroy. Teams can definately afford one of these in their line-up providing they have 2 or 3 'destroyers'. The problem for WI is finding even 1 bowler who consistently does the latter rather than replacing Sammy with one of their seemingly endless stream of run-rate boosters who look the part but rarely deliver.

  • Sudhir Syal on July 13, 2011, 3:42 GMT

    I agree with this post. Whichever way you slice it though, Sammy has to be relieved of captaincy if the Windies want to do better in cricket.

    He can always be a part of the 15 but not captain. Darren Bravo for captain perhaps. Sammy has perhaps already done his job of stabilizing the team.

  • Siva Bhaskar on July 13, 2011, 3:34 GMT

    thats a great performance by the west indies better than expected from the indians... but also we can say much thnaks for my mr dependable wall and hydarabadi stylish vvs both have tried their capability...and we remember once lambu ( ishaant )... what a captiancy by mr sammy... and we remember for this some days only.. thank u very much for all.... ur bhaskar

  • ben on July 13, 2011, 2:54 GMT

    Sammy has being made captain for the entire 2011 season, according to a few sources. Sammy may not display the skill set for the starting 11, but he is infusing something call passion into the team. I cannot kill the guy because he is a hard worker and he does his best on the field. Good luck to Darren Sammy and improve your batting in the break. Guys, lets be real.... Sammy is in this position because no one wanted to be captain. Gayle, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Bravo...... No one wanted to lead, only Sammy. I remember in the South Africa ODI series where he tried to pummel west indies to victory, but lost in the end. Sammy was dejected, he knelt on the grass in pain...... Pure passion. Sammy, please improve your game and you can make this team your own..... leave your mark and good luck.

  • Kenneth Forde on July 13, 2011, 1:14 GMT

    Sammy is just a space occupier in the team.He reduces that much needed intensity/potency of a modern test bowling attack for winning test matches when its most needed to knock the oppisition over.Roach,Edwards,Rampaul-and depending on the wicket where the game is played- we should go for Bishoo or Taylor. They are not Roberts,Garner,Croft and Marshall but they are the best we have presently. Don't forget we have an abundance of talent waiting in the region.The team should read 1. Gayle 2.Barath 3.Samuels 4.K Edwards 5.Simmonds 6.Chanderpaul 7.Baugh 8.Rampaul 9.Edwards 10.Roach 11.Bishoo

  • Tex941149 on July 13, 2011, 0:33 GMT

    An excellent article. Sammy isn't the most gifted cricketer that West Indies has ever produced but you will find it harder to find a more dedicated player to the West Indies cause than Sammy. The Windies don't need a talented, selfish individual - what they need is a team of dedicated players who want to succeed for their country - with this desire they will easily punch higher up the order (and as you alluded NZ is exactly the same - again they aren't very naturally talented but due to sheer hard work and spirit they always seem to match it with the best (and you need to remember they only have a population of 4 million)). Great article.

  • Ajmer Singh Bains on July 13, 2011, 0:25 GMT

    The apprentice may prove to be the master. The only aspect is that he needs to improve his personal cricket to merit a slot as a player. As a captain, there is no one on the horizon for an immediate improvement. So unless I can come up with a miracle man I will not be in a hurry to replace Sammy.

  • Ram on July 12, 2011, 23:08 GMT

    Sarwan was appointed captain but as a result of injury Gayle took over. everywhere else, once the skip returns he takes over so what happened here? Give him back his captaincy and you will see a hard hitting test batsman again. The WICB must fulfill its promises.

  • Gopalakrishnan on July 12, 2011, 22:43 GMT

    Cannot understand why Chandrapaul could never become a stable alternative? He has always been an under rated performer. Perhaps he lacks the captain in him.

  • DMoney on July 12, 2011, 20:51 GMT

    I think criticism of Sammy is unfair. The eleven are playing like a team. The youngsters have talent and he is bringing the pride and commitment. Put all that together and in a few years time they will be a tough outfit indeed.

  • Vijay on July 12, 2011, 19:10 GMT

    Fair call! I think WI supporters need to realize the importance of Sammy in the team. WI will always have talented players but their talents will blossom only when they have an environment which allows them to blossom. So while Roach was out of the side because Sammy was in it, WI fans need to know that Sammy is making the team good enough for a player like Roach to find expression. Sammy has no flair and for many WI fans it is a complete no-no. But yep he is the man for building the side and so far he has been good at it. From a WI cricket point of view I think they might as well say bye-bye to Gayle and allow him to make his many with Bangalore (my team) and not disrupt the new sense of "team" that Sammy has brought in.

  • Aakash G on July 12, 2011, 17:49 GMT

    Very Good article indeed. Sammy may not be the best bowler in the World,but his bowling average is better than some of his other West Indian counter-parts in the last 6 years or so. He may not be a Shaun Pollock or Glenn McGrath but he has the heart & Passion to move West Indies Cricket forward. He did better than I initially thought to be quite honest as a bowler. His batting is the problem though & that is what he needs to work on otherwise his critics will be on his back yet again. West Indies have Bangladesh coming up in October so hopefully time will tell if Darren Sammy is retained as West Indies captain.

  • Winston on July 12, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    I like this article. Very balanced and I generally agree with its contents. Sammy may not have the exceptional talent but he has discipline and committment and that is vital for any furture success of the West Indies. Look at the top Test playing nations, apart from talent, I believe it is discipline and committment that have them where they are.

  • Hareesh on July 12, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Beautifully written!! It's not Sammy's fault that he was made captain and having said that he is doing a great job. The sum is always greater than its parts and Sammy is making WI realize that. But it still pains me to see an explosive talent like Roach cooling his heels in the bench. WI have to figure out a way to play him alongside Fidel and Ravi.

  • Guy Collier on July 12, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    I have watched a lot of the recent series on SS and have also been very impressed with Sammy's captaincy.

    Now what needs to ahppen is that the Windies selectors need to be saying to C. Baugh and all the other Wk's in the Carribean islands 'Look, we need a wicketkeeper that can bat at 6, make this spot your own through hard work at your game and performances in domestic cricket.' That will make C. Baugh work harder aswell and you will soon find out who the really driven cricketers are.

    D. Sammy also needs to redouble his batting efforts, he has proved he has the stomach for the fight and is the right man to rebuild Windies cricket. Ottis Gibson needs to work on Sammys game more than anyone else as the captain needs to bat and score at 7. He out of every player needs to stand up when the inconsistency inevitably sneask in and 7 is the perefct place to do that from!

    good luck Windies.

  • Srini on July 12, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    Sammy can hit the ball and with ease, like his 3 sixes in a row against Harbhajan in a recent test in WI. Much like how Harbhajan himself used to bat until last yr when he made two hundreds and several useful knocks since then. Sammy should come up at 5 or 6 and put a premium on his wkt. Then WI team can go in with an extra front line bowler they definitely need to win matches. His bowling is more of containment mode, so he can still serve a useful purpose there.

  • nav in on July 12, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    if sammy could bat properly and bat at no.6 we would have no problem having him as the captain , he is not doing a bad job but will put a balance in the bowing attack and of course gayle must be back we need him to be there to help the young boys.

  • Abbascheema on July 12, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    No doubt sammy is a good captain.but it is wrong to say that he is neither a bowler nor batsman.he is,i think,a complete bowling all rounder for odi and t20. He can stop runs,is a big hitter but neither a defensive batsman nor a wicket-taking bowler which u require for test cricket.but i beleive,with his captaincy and as a bowler,he has done more than his skills and deserves a place in test team.

  • Trevor on July 12, 2011, 1:00 GMT

    A COUPLE OF seasons ago, I was hoping the WINDIES will see it fit to play Darren Sammy for an entire series, I needed to take a look at his playing ability--I got my wish[be careful what you wish for]Sammy,s batting wouldn,t have gotten him into a strong WINDIES team,he lacks that patience,defensive techniques some one said; His bowling on the other hand is more or better than it appears to be;his feeling is good---BUT his leadership in getting the team to play together is deserving of at least a B;His heart and soul belongs to WINDIES cricket. Sammy should still be viewed as a transitional leader,sometimes on rare occasions, they turn out to be the ONE--He Sammy has my vote of confidence.WIN WINDIES.

  • Scott on July 11, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    My sentiments exactly! The West Indian captaincy is one of the toughest jobs in cricket, and Sammy has conducted himself admirably.

  • Imran on July 11, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    Thanks a lot Swaroop.. You have captured my feelings in toto.. I too have maintained all this while that considering everything, Sammy has done better than what comes to eye instantly.. He takes regular wickets and is economical as a bowler too.. Only thing that i would like is that he should bat higher up the order at times, so that the added responsibility might well lead to more steel in his batting, just liked the responsibility of the third medium fast bowler has helped his bowling.. my best wishes r with him..

  • Pratik on July 11, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    With all due respect, Shaun Pollock was still a few yards quicker than Sammy when he retired. And at Sammy's age, Shaun was actually pretty brisk.

    That said ... Sammy doesnt have a bad test bowling average. May be he is just lucky, or may be his rather friendly looking bowling style makes him look like easy pickings. But whatever the case, the man has done what has been asked of him, despite the limitations. I feel he should be persisted with until WI can put up a better TEAM as opposed to a more talented combination of 11 players.

  • Harshad on July 11, 2011, 15:42 GMT

    Great blog.sammy can prepare good team by keeping `15 world cup in mind.only thing is that Gayle,Taylor should come in side

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  • Harshad on July 11, 2011, 15:42 GMT

    Great blog.sammy can prepare good team by keeping `15 world cup in mind.only thing is that Gayle,Taylor should come in side

  • Pratik on July 11, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    With all due respect, Shaun Pollock was still a few yards quicker than Sammy when he retired. And at Sammy's age, Shaun was actually pretty brisk.

    That said ... Sammy doesnt have a bad test bowling average. May be he is just lucky, or may be his rather friendly looking bowling style makes him look like easy pickings. But whatever the case, the man has done what has been asked of him, despite the limitations. I feel he should be persisted with until WI can put up a better TEAM as opposed to a more talented combination of 11 players.

  • Imran on July 11, 2011, 20:00 GMT

    Thanks a lot Swaroop.. You have captured my feelings in toto.. I too have maintained all this while that considering everything, Sammy has done better than what comes to eye instantly.. He takes regular wickets and is economical as a bowler too.. Only thing that i would like is that he should bat higher up the order at times, so that the added responsibility might well lead to more steel in his batting, just liked the responsibility of the third medium fast bowler has helped his bowling.. my best wishes r with him..

  • Scott on July 11, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    My sentiments exactly! The West Indian captaincy is one of the toughest jobs in cricket, and Sammy has conducted himself admirably.

  • Trevor on July 12, 2011, 1:00 GMT

    A COUPLE OF seasons ago, I was hoping the WINDIES will see it fit to play Darren Sammy for an entire series, I needed to take a look at his playing ability--I got my wish[be careful what you wish for]Sammy,s batting wouldn,t have gotten him into a strong WINDIES team,he lacks that patience,defensive techniques some one said; His bowling on the other hand is more or better than it appears to be;his feeling is good---BUT his leadership in getting the team to play together is deserving of at least a B;His heart and soul belongs to WINDIES cricket. Sammy should still be viewed as a transitional leader,sometimes on rare occasions, they turn out to be the ONE--He Sammy has my vote of confidence.WIN WINDIES.

  • Abbascheema on July 12, 2011, 3:28 GMT

    No doubt sammy is a good captain.but it is wrong to say that he is neither a bowler nor batsman.he is,i think,a complete bowling all rounder for odi and t20. He can stop runs,is a big hitter but neither a defensive batsman nor a wicket-taking bowler which u require for test cricket.but i beleive,with his captaincy and as a bowler,he has done more than his skills and deserves a place in test team.

  • nav in on July 12, 2011, 14:57 GMT

    if sammy could bat properly and bat at no.6 we would have no problem having him as the captain , he is not doing a bad job but will put a balance in the bowing attack and of course gayle must be back we need him to be there to help the young boys.

  • Srini on July 12, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    Sammy can hit the ball and with ease, like his 3 sixes in a row against Harbhajan in a recent test in WI. Much like how Harbhajan himself used to bat until last yr when he made two hundreds and several useful knocks since then. Sammy should come up at 5 or 6 and put a premium on his wkt. Then WI team can go in with an extra front line bowler they definitely need to win matches. His bowling is more of containment mode, so he can still serve a useful purpose there.

  • Guy Collier on July 12, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    I have watched a lot of the recent series on SS and have also been very impressed with Sammy's captaincy.

    Now what needs to ahppen is that the Windies selectors need to be saying to C. Baugh and all the other Wk's in the Carribean islands 'Look, we need a wicketkeeper that can bat at 6, make this spot your own through hard work at your game and performances in domestic cricket.' That will make C. Baugh work harder aswell and you will soon find out who the really driven cricketers are.

    D. Sammy also needs to redouble his batting efforts, he has proved he has the stomach for the fight and is the right man to rebuild Windies cricket. Ottis Gibson needs to work on Sammys game more than anyone else as the captain needs to bat and score at 7. He out of every player needs to stand up when the inconsistency inevitably sneask in and 7 is the perefct place to do that from!

    good luck Windies.

  • Hareesh on July 12, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Beautifully written!! It's not Sammy's fault that he was made captain and having said that he is doing a great job. The sum is always greater than its parts and Sammy is making WI realize that. But it still pains me to see an explosive talent like Roach cooling his heels in the bench. WI have to figure out a way to play him alongside Fidel and Ravi.