Indian cricket January 15, 2012

Crowded calendar will give Indian fans relief

The long gaps between the series that allowed endless mental replays of their worst moments, have now been successfully plugged by leagues
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Before the Perth Test began, I had been tossing around ideas for a post on how India could console themselves with the fact that a 2-2 result in the Test series against Australia would feel just as good as a win; India would be besides themselves for having drawn the series, and Australia would be distraught at having let a 2-0 advantage slip away. Even if the chance to win an away series in Australia was gone, there shouldn't be any lack of motivation for India.

That was a few days ago. This morning, as I sit in my apartment listening to a chilly East Coast wind rattle the windows of my apartment, I shiver, and not just because the occasional gust has made it through some mysteriously located aperture. My overly-optimistic piece of blogging tomfoolery remains stillborn, and just as well. I would have looked like a fool, and the comments space would have been consumed by the scorn and ridicule of those treated to more abject cricket in the latest installment of India's horrible run overseas. I could call it Annus Horribilis, but summoning up fancy Latin phrases doesn't seem to do justice to this carnage. What is needed is simple outrage; the time for fancy analysis of how cricket should be restructured at the grassroots, how the next generation of young batsmen should be nurtured, and so on, will present itself later (to us fans; I'm not sure whether the BCCI will pay attention).

I have to be honest though. Defeats as comprehensive as the ones India have suffered on their tours of England and Australia seem to provoke in me not so much outrage as wearied acceptance. The hints of the current disaster were always visible to the nervous Indian fan, always needing reassurance about the ability of the team to perform consistently and winningly overseas. On these tours of England and Australia, a collective set of long-held fears simply came true. There is a sense of relief perhaps. This was the worst that could happen. The bottom of the trough has been reached. It couldn't get any worse. (For those who think losing at home would make it worse, think again. Some fans are old enough to remember losing Tests at home, others multiple Tests or entire series.)

But most fundamentally, I think that while the tunnel may be long and dark, the light at its end is not that of improved performance by the next reincarnation of the Indian team; it is, rather, provided by the knowledge that this crowded cricketing calendar of ours will simply not allow for too much wallowing in the muck and mire of the current catastrophe. There are home series, the IPL, and of course, other nations playing cricket. How long will the fan be allowed to brood and sulk before the next installment of the cricketing world's package of televised entertainment is upon us? And compulsive consumers of cricket will find their healing balm in more cricket, perhaps of a different format, perhaps that played by a different team. The interminably long gaps between the series of yesteryear, that allowed endless mental replays of their worst moments, have now been successfully plugged by a succession of series, cups and leagues.

Unfortunately for the Indian fan, this dizzying panoply of staged cricket will also serve to obscure the handiwork of those committed to keeping Indian cricket frozen in a ghastly time-warp of mediocrity. The belling of that particular cat needs doing. When, and by whom, are questions that demand answers. But only when there is a break in the programming.

Samir Chopra lives in Brooklyn and teaches Philosophy at the City University of New York. He tweets here

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  • sab on January 27, 2012, 23:42 GMT

    For entertainment Please refer to BOLLYWOOD or Hollywood or even local TV channels will do For real cricket come and watch TEST as this is "TEST" of nerves, patience, game etc etc India has proved that their players want to be in bollywood, so bet it Good luck to Aussies , well done

  • Darold on January 27, 2012, 3:24 GMT

    This article is a home run, pure and spilme!

  • Anonymous on January 21, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    What gives the BCCI the power - the revenue raised domestically and the fans. IF the fans boycott the IPL and all forms of cricket inlcuding TV viewing, it will affect the BCCI revenue the message will get through. Power back from the politician/non cricket administrators to the Ex criketers like Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev,Ganguly, Bedi, and in future - Tundulkar, Dravid etc at all levels of the organization - people who have the good of cricket at heart and will take the right decisions. Let professionals deal with finance, organizing etc. Have selectors accountable, as well as players dropped after continued non performance. Get bouncy pitches in India and strengthen the domestic circuit. Increase monetary benifits to domestic cricketers. Better cricket development schools financed by the board using interantional expertise. The money is there use it to improve domestic cricket. BECAUSE WITH SUBSTANDARD CRICKET - CRICKET WILL BE LOST IN INDIA-- DESTROY THE IPL

  • Anonymous on January 18, 2012, 1:57 GMT

    Samir, the one sentence that rings true is that there is a sense of relief (for the forward looking Indian fan at least). No longer is there the need for pretense. No longer do we have to defend the dubious No. 1 test ranking or the team/seniors when they fail. Truth be told it has grown wearisome over the last 18 months for the genuine well wisher/indian fan. Another silver-lining & probably the most important one is that the fans can finally have a chance to see the promising youngsters come thru. We don't need to be pessimistic. Indian cricket has been stuck at a Catch-22 impass for the past few years (retire the seniors, lose matches/revenue, give the greats a scripted send-off as they deserve, etc.) and barring this perfect storm debacle the Indian collective psyche just is not equipped to make and accept hard choices unprompted. I'm not predicting a smooth or even predictable transition but for the forward looking fan THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Enjoy

  • Prakash on January 18, 2012, 1:31 GMT

    What gives the BCCI the power - the revenue raised domestically and the fans. IF the fans boycott the IPL and all forms of cricket inlcuding TV viewing, it will affect the BCCI revenue the message will get through. Power back from the politician/non cricket administrators to the Ex criketers like Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev,Ganguly, Bedi, and in future - Tundulkar, Dravid etc at all levels of the organization - people who have the good of cricket at heart and will take the right decisions. Let professionals deal with finance, organizing etc. Have selectors accountable, as well as players dropped after continued non performance. Get bouncy pitches in India and strengthen the domestic circuit. Increase monetary benifits to domestic cricketers. Better cricket development schools financed by the board using interantional expertise. The money is there use it to improve domestic cricket. BECAUSE WITH SUBSTANDARD CRICKET - CRICKET WILL BE LOST IN INDIA-- DESTROY THE IPL

  • Bhaskar on January 17, 2012, 21:37 GMT

    NEWS FLASH: BCCI has just announced that India will no longer play overseas tests in the foreseeable future. When the reporters asked why, a spokesperson responded by saying, " ... this decision was made at the board level and was done mainly to protect the feelings of the Indian fans." A person familiar with the proceedings, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told us that the board members had also discussed, "results do not matter as long as the players are enjoying". It has been reliably reported that despite the seven consecutive defeats, the "mood of the team remains upbeat."

  • Pennyroyal Tea on January 17, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    Indian cricket is failing miserably. Who's to blame? "Indian Cricket" is composed of 3 basic components. 1)The players who go out and perform. 2)The board that selects, and provides to these players. 3)The Indian Audience and our great media. The answer to the question is, all the three of us are to be blamed. 1)The Indian players, who are aging, lack fitness and commitment, and yet are hungry to play more. The not so aged and unfit ones more committed to their IPL franchises, and endorsement brands. 2)The board which tries to cash in on crickets potential to attract audiences. Devices "IPL" to make more money. Projects Indian team to be great after say a series win against WI on flat dead home tracks. 3)Us, the immature, naive, People of the country who do not understand the main issue to be addressed. We take delight in small individual achievements of players. Like idolizing these men. As someone said, a sachin 100 or an IPL match will make us forget all this failure and enjoy!

  • Anup on January 17, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    The bcci is making shitloads of money and they bloody dont care about test cricket..all that matters to them is IPL and buying foreign players..they are gang r****g indian cricket. And Srinivasan is so confident of thrashing other teams at home..is there a fixing angle to this:)....dude dont put ur freakin foot in ur dirty mouth!

  • anil on January 17, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Don Bradman needed to play just one more Test inning to bring his average to 100+ that too in an era of his country supremacy. How many Test my country has to give to this guy to score his 100th Ton in the face of all these humiliating overseas defeats?

  • Shyam Jansale on January 17, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    The most important fact is that our batsmen did not show any spine or any will to put up a fight. It is not the loss in itself that rankles but the abject nature of surrender that really angers all Indian cricket fans. We have so called batting legends who cant stand up and face a bunch of young and inexperienced Australian fast bowlers. Show some spine guys, put up a fight, show that you are a team of men and not ....................

  • sab on January 27, 2012, 23:42 GMT

    For entertainment Please refer to BOLLYWOOD or Hollywood or even local TV channels will do For real cricket come and watch TEST as this is "TEST" of nerves, patience, game etc etc India has proved that their players want to be in bollywood, so bet it Good luck to Aussies , well done

  • Darold on January 27, 2012, 3:24 GMT

    This article is a home run, pure and spilme!

  • Anonymous on January 21, 2012, 18:20 GMT

    What gives the BCCI the power - the revenue raised domestically and the fans. IF the fans boycott the IPL and all forms of cricket inlcuding TV viewing, it will affect the BCCI revenue the message will get through. Power back from the politician/non cricket administrators to the Ex criketers like Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev,Ganguly, Bedi, and in future - Tundulkar, Dravid etc at all levels of the organization - people who have the good of cricket at heart and will take the right decisions. Let professionals deal with finance, organizing etc. Have selectors accountable, as well as players dropped after continued non performance. Get bouncy pitches in India and strengthen the domestic circuit. Increase monetary benifits to domestic cricketers. Better cricket development schools financed by the board using interantional expertise. The money is there use it to improve domestic cricket. BECAUSE WITH SUBSTANDARD CRICKET - CRICKET WILL BE LOST IN INDIA-- DESTROY THE IPL

  • Anonymous on January 18, 2012, 1:57 GMT

    Samir, the one sentence that rings true is that there is a sense of relief (for the forward looking Indian fan at least). No longer is there the need for pretense. No longer do we have to defend the dubious No. 1 test ranking or the team/seniors when they fail. Truth be told it has grown wearisome over the last 18 months for the genuine well wisher/indian fan. Another silver-lining & probably the most important one is that the fans can finally have a chance to see the promising youngsters come thru. We don't need to be pessimistic. Indian cricket has been stuck at a Catch-22 impass for the past few years (retire the seniors, lose matches/revenue, give the greats a scripted send-off as they deserve, etc.) and barring this perfect storm debacle the Indian collective psyche just is not equipped to make and accept hard choices unprompted. I'm not predicting a smooth or even predictable transition but for the forward looking fan THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Enjoy

  • Prakash on January 18, 2012, 1:31 GMT

    What gives the BCCI the power - the revenue raised domestically and the fans. IF the fans boycott the IPL and all forms of cricket inlcuding TV viewing, it will affect the BCCI revenue the message will get through. Power back from the politician/non cricket administrators to the Ex criketers like Anil Kumble, Kapil Dev,Ganguly, Bedi, and in future - Tundulkar, Dravid etc at all levels of the organization - people who have the good of cricket at heart and will take the right decisions. Let professionals deal with finance, organizing etc. Have selectors accountable, as well as players dropped after continued non performance. Get bouncy pitches in India and strengthen the domestic circuit. Increase monetary benifits to domestic cricketers. Better cricket development schools financed by the board using interantional expertise. The money is there use it to improve domestic cricket. BECAUSE WITH SUBSTANDARD CRICKET - CRICKET WILL BE LOST IN INDIA-- DESTROY THE IPL

  • Bhaskar on January 17, 2012, 21:37 GMT

    NEWS FLASH: BCCI has just announced that India will no longer play overseas tests in the foreseeable future. When the reporters asked why, a spokesperson responded by saying, " ... this decision was made at the board level and was done mainly to protect the feelings of the Indian fans." A person familiar with the proceedings, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told us that the board members had also discussed, "results do not matter as long as the players are enjoying". It has been reliably reported that despite the seven consecutive defeats, the "mood of the team remains upbeat."

  • Pennyroyal Tea on January 17, 2012, 16:40 GMT

    Indian cricket is failing miserably. Who's to blame? "Indian Cricket" is composed of 3 basic components. 1)The players who go out and perform. 2)The board that selects, and provides to these players. 3)The Indian Audience and our great media. The answer to the question is, all the three of us are to be blamed. 1)The Indian players, who are aging, lack fitness and commitment, and yet are hungry to play more. The not so aged and unfit ones more committed to their IPL franchises, and endorsement brands. 2)The board which tries to cash in on crickets potential to attract audiences. Devices "IPL" to make more money. Projects Indian team to be great after say a series win against WI on flat dead home tracks. 3)Us, the immature, naive, People of the country who do not understand the main issue to be addressed. We take delight in small individual achievements of players. Like idolizing these men. As someone said, a sachin 100 or an IPL match will make us forget all this failure and enjoy!

  • Anup on January 17, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    The bcci is making shitloads of money and they bloody dont care about test cricket..all that matters to them is IPL and buying foreign players..they are gang r****g indian cricket. And Srinivasan is so confident of thrashing other teams at home..is there a fixing angle to this:)....dude dont put ur freakin foot in ur dirty mouth!

  • anil on January 17, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Don Bradman needed to play just one more Test inning to bring his average to 100+ that too in an era of his country supremacy. How many Test my country has to give to this guy to score his 100th Ton in the face of all these humiliating overseas defeats?

  • Shyam Jansale on January 17, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    The most important fact is that our batsmen did not show any spine or any will to put up a fight. It is not the loss in itself that rankles but the abject nature of surrender that really angers all Indian cricket fans. We have so called batting legends who cant stand up and face a bunch of young and inexperienced Australian fast bowlers. Show some spine guys, put up a fight, show that you are a team of men and not ....................

  • dunger.bob on January 17, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    The BCCI chief says "we'll win at home and everyone will be happy". So what would happen if you didn't win at home? I'll take a guess and say that the next thing is "well, we don't really care about test cricket, we've got the IPL". From my perspective (I'm Australian) that would be really, really sad. Making money is important, but only so far as it helps promote the game. Making money should not be the No. 1 objective of any national cricket administration. Promoting and fostering the game from the grass roots through to the pinnacle (TEST cricket) is the only thing that counts. The BCCI should be outraged at what has been going on lately, but they really don't seem to give a s@@t. Like I said, its very sad.

  • Dammisl on January 17, 2012, 8:58 GMT

    i think i am happy the way that indians are lossing. becasue they call our lankan cricketer as flat track bully. i dnt undsrtnd y these indian hereos fell down like a school team. our team managed to drew 2 in england and won 1 in sa. any way all da bes guys.

  • kshitij on January 17, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    Rightly said in one of the comments that BCCI got only one aim..that if you got money and you can buy overseas players in IPL...that is the only success, motto, mission for them...even indians consider the same...buying south african, australian and english players remains the only priority...Please come forward now and ban this dirty cricket game in India. Don't go to watch those one days and 20-20 matches which are more or less fixed. Do support players in other sports who are equally rather more deserving than these cricketers. Please don't support or sponsor cricket. Let other sports flourish which will give some sort of pride to India.

  • anonymous on January 17, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    maybe india would do better if this series were played in india instead,owing to familiarity with home conditions,confidence and home and crowd support. but england and australia may be the no.1 and no. 2 teams right now. instead of feeling burdened by being no.1 or 2 india should have relished the challenge of playing in australia but did not play inspired and positive test cricket.australia and england have always been tough to play at home. india should not underestimate england and australia and must work hard to address the deficiencies that have cost seven tests in a row in england and australia.and don't forget the mind games that australia and england play when india visits them. don't be nice to them when they visit india.just be ruthless.play top quality cricket.be nice to them when sending them off.make sure they board the plane home.

  • G on January 17, 2012, 5:41 GMT

    Four fundamental reasons, unfortunately no solutions in sight... 1) Prime focus and monetary rewards in IPL (lack of motivation for succeeding in Tests) 2) Indifferent administrators with no technical expertise of the game (placid home pitches, nepotistic selections etc) 3) Poor bowler program (no genuine and consistent good fast bowler since Zaheer in the last 10 years) 4) Blind hero-worship- no matter your past records, you always start a fresh game on 0 not out as a batsman and 0/0 as a bowler

  • anonymous on January 17, 2012, 5:39 GMT

    i will be cheering for england against pakistan. pakistan were whitewashed 3-0 in australia and want bad things to happen to india.

  • observer on January 17, 2012, 5:23 GMT

    'grieve', 'humiliation', 'soul searching', 'soul destroying' and so on are irrational. australia just lost the ashes 4-1 at home, lost a test to minnows new zealand at home, and were bowled out for 47. now they are about to thwhitewash india. india's cricketing establishment and experts need to dispassionately look at all the problems across the board,the team and players need to be put on a positive action plan by team management and cricket board,and vice versa. execution against the performance plan needs to be assessed every two weeks, a few months and once a year. india started off slowly instead of being on target and attacking from ball one in the series. senior batsmen may have failed. but the tail could not bat for even a few balls. the bowling and fielding gave away 850 runs before taking a wicket.they stopped trying. excuses were plenty. nothing was learned in england. india went back to business as usual and the problems returned to bite again. time to plan ahead and act !

  • a1234s on January 17, 2012, 5:06 GMT

    @current

    You are def from Pakistan. None else would talk such stupid things.

    Conspiracy theories and Pakistan go hand-in-hand.

  • observer on January 17, 2012, 4:51 GMT

    india's test performance in england and australia is not an aberration. this test series has been badly lost. india's batting, bowling, fielding,fitness, and attitude are all seriously flawed.mental toughness and resilience is lacking. as a test team, india lacks or is deficient in talent,skill technique,consistency, determination and concentration against good fast bowling and in the seam bowling department. if team india does not seriously try to confront and address these problems, soon england,australia and south africa will be thumping india in india as well, as some of them once did.

  • observer on January 17, 2012, 4:24 GMT

    when india was bowled out for 42 in england in '74 ajit wadekar, the 'senior' player and captain, retired. india were whitewashed 3-0. the score card read 'gavaskar/vishwanath/wadekar/engineer caught knott bowled old/arnold/hendrick' in every test inning. they were the 'senior' players. the problem was india's inability to bat on seaming pitches. the spinners gained no traction and got thrashed to all parts of the ground. india solved the problem. by preparing turning pitches against the west indies. or did they ? india talked a lot about preparing fast pitches and developing seamers, and did nothing. they just swept the problems under the carpet. india lost again in england in '79 and in '81.to be fair, mohinder became an outstanding batsman against fast bowling, kapil came along.madan and binny were much better than their predecessors.developing quality players for fast,bouncy,seaming pitches is hard. india does not want to confront difficult problems.the same mistakes are repeated.

  • Manish Das on January 17, 2012, 4:00 GMT

    the team needs a break of 4-5 months from all forms of cricket. What happens if we work 30 days a month, 365 days a year ... we lose our motivation. The team has been playing non stop since last 2 years. there are already number of empty stands all round the counry during international matches. only if BCCI reads these opinions .... after all if we can spot the problem, y can't they .... ?

  • Aussie1 on January 17, 2012, 2:39 GMT

    My observation is that the problem appears t6o be the mental side of things. India seem to have problemas with anything where they are not 100% comfortable and too easily accepting of poor performance.

    After Melbourne, Dhoni said something along the lines of "its ok, we are slow starters". An aussie, SA or English captain would be hounded by the fans and media for making such a comment.

    This is just one example. However, Sachin will score his 100th hundred and all will be good, even though the stat is quite a meaningless one. Sachin can have his 100 tonnes. We have Ponting with a 100+ test victories. In a team sport which one is the more important?

  • adz on January 17, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    The BCCI are just another pack of money-hungry hyenas hunting in packs with politicians in India. They do not care about how well the team is doing, but instead are trying to promote cricket in a way that will get more cash into their hands. A change at the corporate level can only get the ball rolling...which is much needed as I am sure many indian fans would rather see their nation prosper and keep test cricket alive, than watching a 53 day circus named the 'IPL'.

  • Jay on January 16, 2012, 22:44 GMT

    With due regards to the sentiments of the million odd fans of Indian cricketers, I would say I was never carried away when India won the World Cup, it was only the sponsors capitalizing on the event, the fans feeling as jubilant as the cricketers (agreed, considering their performance relative to previous ones in the World Cup) and the BCCI doing its due.

    The root cause are the hapless fans who sweat it out, whether it is for tickets, or skipping office or school to glue themselves to the TV sets and so much as fly abroad to support their "heroes" and also face the mockery from the home team fans.

    As fans disappear, the sponsors/ endorsements/IPLs disappear, the layer of fat on the cricketers' head (or base) will vanish, leading to "hard-earned" money and respect for the "heroes".

  • incandescent on January 16, 2012, 22:09 GMT

    As fans we expect too much and go over the top with the wins and the losses. We had a great run for the past few years which took us to No 1 and to the World Cup win. Much of the same team helped us accomplish that and we should be proud. Now these losses have helped us understand that the time for change is upon us. Both VVS and Rahul have struggled so it is right to call time since folks like Rohit, Raina and Pujara need to be given an extended run. Great careers from them and unforgettable memories from these two but time and tide wait for no man and we should not deny these youngsters the chance the way Yuvraj was denied for so long.

    Lets not blame the BCCI - it is one of the best run boards in india and created the hugely successful IPL. Let's not blame IPL either - Warner and Yadav were discovered there and it is a fun format.

    Lastly, continue to play to our strengths at home. Prepare turning tracks so that we have an advantage over the others. The dustbowls are perfect!

  • Subrata on January 16, 2012, 20:45 GMT

    This is the best that could have happened to the Indian Cricket - bringing you down to the level that you can go no further down. The board, cricketers and fans alike - should re-look at the entire strategy and team compositions and allow the new players to participate and bloom - and do not make the team an entitlement of a few.

  • Ragav on January 16, 2012, 20:06 GMT

    These comments will not bother BCCI or Indian Players. After all, they don't think, they are playing for their nation or they do not have a spirit or proud over their country. Finally fans are the one feeling ashamed for watching these matches. In this test series, our players performance were at the bottom level after every match which is not acceptable at all. A defeat in the first match or the second match should have given an idea of how to face typical situations, but it has been followed. something else is happening here rather than a game.

  • IG on January 16, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    I have an idea! Lets send India back, and call New Zealand to play the final test in Adelaide - so that we can have a conclusion to that gripping 'mini-series'. Besides, its them and not the flat-track-slog loving Indians who deserve to bat on the batters' paradise that the Adelaide oval is.

  • Raj Banga on January 16, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    It is becoming all too embarassing for an Indian cricket fan wherever in the world he may be. About time the BCCI took notice and broght in some drastic changes. I feel Dhoni too has been a major let down as test captain. His own performances behind the wickets and with the bat have at best been mediocre. How can that inspire any of his team players? The captain has to lead from the front.This is not happening. Also about time we bid goodbye to Laxman and Sehwag from the test arena, retaining Dravid and Tendulkar for a little while if only to guide the youngsters.

  • current on January 16, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    What world do you guys live in? the watershed event that brought about these defeats was the aggressive prosecution of match fixers in England. Before that, the rich sponsors of the Indian team were able to buy influence in the squads of opposing teams. Now, no-one will risk it.

    Once that stopped, they had nothing to hide behind but their performances, which we all know are incapable of handling quality pace (other than ST and RD).

    Cricket these days is not just played between teams, but rather their sponsors and boards who have much more at stake.

  • Ajay Kumar Sharma on January 16, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    Please Cricinfo hand over some of the suggestions to bcci. Even if they act on one of them, India will do better

  • Noorie on January 16, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    The most embarassing part is India did not even give Aussies a workout. Aussie batsmen must be upset that Indians get 2 shots at batting while they get only one. It is not even a match. It is just total humiliation.

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    all the cricinfo comments should be forwarded to BCCI. Even if they act properly on at least one of them, india would do better.

  • Srinivasan on January 16, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    Once Dinesh Karthik was criticised by our commentators for scoring sixes because SRT at the other end could not get his hundred, even though India won that match. Only when this attitude i.e. getting your personal milestone, changes will we be able to perform better as a team

  • TJ on January 16, 2012, 17:04 GMT

    Its not just a question of losing , its a question of not even bothering to try .

    Zaheer Khan's attitude while batting sums it up all..his clearing away his front foot & backing away & taking ugly swipes at each and every ball bowled to him shows the attitude of this team .

    Sehwag's ugly swipes at balls way outside the off stump without any foot work whatsoever right from ball one is really sad and pathetic .

    There is no shame in losing provided you are willing to learn from your mistakes . The total lack of respect & effort & positive attitude from these guys is much worse than the actual one sided losses.

    There is no pride left among these guys . They just want to give up & just want to go through the motions just for the sake of it , they would care less if they lost the 4th test in 2 days .

  • Thank You on January 16, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    Normally when India play cricket, I would get nervous and keep hoping that India would "win". Now I have nothing to be nervous. We are back to our old self. Remember the early days when we all celebrated a win with a holiday. We will get back to those golden days again.

    The problem was that in the last decade we won a few more than in the past. It gave us a sense of progress. We felt we were there with the big boys now. The sad part is we are not. The series in England and Australia is a true reflection of the reality. The past few years was the aberration. Sachin, Dravid, and Kumble were exceptions and till we can consistently produce high calibre players, we are not going to be with the big boys. Play the game with spirit and improve, but do not have illusions.

  • Krish on January 16, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    I agree with the view that "compulsive consumers of cricket will find their healing balm in more cricket". There is also a lot to be read in between the words spoken by Rahul Dravid that International teams have become smart in preparin pitches suiting their batsman. While it is true that India got thrashed by England both in Tests and One day matches, how come the same England team could not even win a single match in their reverse tour to India for ODIs. The home series coming after this tour may also find India coming on top of host of other nations possibly losing very few like the way Australia is doing now.

    It is true that Indians are not able to demonstrate the skill abroad but almost the same is true with every overseas teams travelling to India. They may not get outplayed as India was in this series but will surely be defeated in most matches. This is the trend across all cricket playing nations and India is no exception.

  • dr sujoy on January 16, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    yes mr samir, you are right that this is a throwback to the dark ages of indian cricket, after 10 years of a golden era. remarkably, it was started by the man everybody wants to drop today;VVS Laxman. He was the hero who fought the champions like a titan. these 10 years were a bonus to us indian cricket fans; i never thought i would be alive to see India win the world cup again. so all I would like to say to my hero is thank you for the wonderful times. you made us all proud. God probably said to Dhoni that look, i`ll give you the world cup if you lose like this. so its his deal with God maybe. ya we`re incredibly emotional. i know.

  • Nithin G on January 16, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    All this talk about dropping seniors, sacking Dhoni as captain and about the hectic schedule of Indian cricketers; I feel that it is unwarranted. Humans by default find faults and "more often that not" they want to find faults in other humans. We fans want the same; Indians winning consistently. We should look at this from a different aspect.OVERSEAS TOURS

    One solution which seems obvious is, GREEN PITCHES. I am not telling to go in for a complete revamp; (We do not want to be whitewashed at home too) but we could have at least a "practice ground" a ground with a pacy and bouncy track. Our cricketers would benefit on two major fronts if they are made to practice on the ground especially before away tours. Firstly, they would have already had a decent measure of the away conditions. Secondly, they would at least kind of feel at home; which is more of a psychological thing really.

    Something along these lines should be done if we are to show a decent performance when we defend our title

  • Altaf on January 16, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    BOYCOTT IPL...WE HAVE TO GET THEM UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS PLAYING FOR INDIAN TEAM THAT MAKES IPL A SUCCESS, NOT OTHER WAY AROUND..

  • Raj on January 16, 2012, 14:48 GMT

    Well, I am not sure why should we blame our Indian players?They had poor track record overseas forever and how can we expect them to do magic overnight..Let us be practical.I will be happy if we win at least 1 test abroad and will consider this as win.We are not used to bouncy pitches...period..We can't be masters everywhere..At our home we are...what else can we expect?Yes IPL will start and people will forget his loss.Does anyone think people will not show interest in IPL because of this loss..no way..life carries on ..goes on...That is life which is the reality..let us face it.Do you think our batsmen are just giving their wickets away.NO.Aussies bowling is good and they know how to use the bounce and they are dexterous.People say some batsmen went ahead to study the bounce etc.etc..well it is like mugging everything a day before the exam..come on..there should be natural talent which aussies has and we don't..end of story.

  • Shyam on January 16, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    We are a very good ODI team and therefore we deserve to win the world cup and i dont agree with people saying that we dont deserve to win the world cup just because we are playing badly in test matches. I also believe that one of the problems is Duncan Fletcher, he is a very defensive coach and he may have made Dhoni change his tactics a lot. I think for us to imporve we need a Coach who has played for India and who is able to work with the youngsters for example Sourav Ganguly. Hopefully in the next test match we can put up a better fight, I also think that Sehwag being captain is the wrong move aswell because he should be dropped and Gambhir should be captain instead.

  • a1234s on January 16, 2012, 14:35 GMT

    time for Dravid to pack up. If he is really the person people say he is (plays for country..blah blah blah), then I would expect a letter from him saying he has quit international cricket.

    Sachin needs to be made the vice-captain and Zaheer the captain.

  • Ray on January 16, 2012, 14:29 GMT

    @Zlato Veskanan and Deenesh, shut up guys. Samir writes in an evocative manner and he has brought his and the feelings of many Indian fans to the fore. So stop complaining about the language and read something else. Brilliant article Samir, when you take (3) 38 year olds to a fast bowling party, you are bound to come unstuck. Sadly inevitably the sorrow will last for a few days before the circus starts.

  • DBG on January 16, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    It's interesting that half the comments are focused on BCCI. As if the only reason we were drubbed was because of the board. Nothing about the players...something that's got to be unique not just in world cricket but in any sport.

  • nirmal on January 16, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    Don't worry Samir, by the time of the next IPL they'll be singing praises of these players and this humiliating defeats will be long forgotten !!

  • anantha on January 16, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Please for God sake send Dravid home I can not see his face on TV like a dead man. Since he painfully left ODI we won one world cup atleast, the "Wall has a big hole" eversince begining of his career I saw him playing for himself, even in one day matches he eats three damn balls before he gets one run, this guy is no way match to other two heroes Sachin and Laksman, even in test matches he ruined his partners just by wasting balls and keeping the bowler happy becuase his slowness and spineless behaviour he is screwing other players like Sehwag, Sachin and the rest, Dhoni is the worst test captain, he sould go away permanently along with our "spinner" vinay kumar, gowthi even lakshmann, sehwag should be rested and give chance even to players like Joginder Sherma, thanks but for our Indian fans its OK we never won in Aus soil anyways buy white wash is kind of new to even to me wathing cricket sice 25 years

  • Ricky on January 16, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    Its undoubtedly the worst performance of the Indian team ever. I am utterly disappointed and frustrated with pakistanis over here trying to convince themselves they gifted India WC or India won worldcup through some kind of betting, why can't they digest India won the world cup with their efforts, Pak lost against India digest that u like it or not ? India have performed decently well in ODI's even in England, its the test matches this team has lost interest in. In the world cup it was collective effort including MOS Yuveraj that won the cup, they were desperate to win the WC but that desperation and lack of hunger is currently lacking in test squad. If BCCI announce rewards of 1 crore to each player if they win international series, then you check out how these guys would perform. "Money Talks". Unless the Indian team is given warnings like what SAF, ACB, PCB or ECB do when they perform bad this team would never ever improve. Youngsters need to be groomed, its highly late already.

  • Reality1 on January 16, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Indians are lucky and should be grateful for winning the WC. We achieved more than can be expected of any Indian sports team (although cricket is only played by about 10 nations).

    A research of archives of cricinfo shows that India became the last major nation to win 100 Tests (it took them 60 years) while Ponting in his 14 year playing career has been involved in 105 Test wins.

    Also Ponting and Australia team had 2 different consecutive win streaks of 16 Tests each recently. I have been following Indian cricket for about 30 years, and I can not recall India winning 3 straight tests- home or abroad.

    So we are comparing amateurs/school boys with professionals. Indians are just not cut out to compete at the top level. We have long long way to go. Will we ever get there? Hopefully. We have to change our thinking and work ethic.

  • Kish Kumar on January 16, 2012, 13:30 GMT

    India need some players who are looking for an opportunity to pounce on a slight edge they get in a match. I remember Shastri's double century in 1992 when India was 2-0 down. But, when there was a good pitch presented itself, Shastri made sure that they make the best use of it. And, he nearly won that match for India. We need players like that. After the bad decision to bat first was made in sydney, India still had a chance to draw or even win the match, because Clarke declared with more than 2 days to go. But, nobody was keen to pounce on that opportunity. In Perth, they thought their 161 was poor score. But, it wasn't. They could have done what they have done on the second day from the beginning and the first innings honors would have been even. But, given that they let Warner get away, the bowlers still gave them a sniff of victory. It was the matter of wiping off that 200 deficit and getting a decent lead. But, nobody were serious enough to put their head down and go for it.

  • Uday on January 16, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    The bottom line is Indians are just not good in sports. Look at the ongoing Australian Tennis Open- one single Indian knocked out in first round- while small countries like Serbia, Switzerland produce top class players.

    Look at India's record in Olympics. Or the popular world wide sports events such as football, basketball or volleyball etc. Even in field hockey, India is not assured of playing in Olympics. We had some hope and good results in cricket just because it is played seriously in only about 6 nations. Tragically, cricket is not number 1 sport in any of the top nations. In Australia, it is Australian rules footbal and soccer at the top.

    Also reading recent media reports in India- such as 42 percent children malnourished, 58 percent defecating in open, and the corruption, chaos, filth and squalor you see in most of India.... how do you expect the country to produce anything world class- sport or non-sport field?

  • Vicky Banker on January 16, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if all this is all part of a conspiracy instigated by our 100% corrupt politicians connected with BCCI and inspired by foreign bodies, that India are losing so badly overseas, for bringing a decline in the poularity of Test Cricket which was more than evident by the number of people present in recent tests vs WI at Delhi, Calcutta & Bombay, to promote IPL and also to divert people to international sports like Formula One and Football etc

  • sherishahmir on January 16, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Being Pakistani and a die hard cricket lover I thought after the worldcup, indian tours of Eng and Aus would be a real treat to watch, but despite having Sachin,Dravid,VVS, Veru, Gautam and MS it remain very one side affairs. I think this is unfair to blame only indian team, all subcontinent sides are clueless including Pak & SL whenever they have to play in australia, I dont know why, all of us never registered a single series win in australia for our long test playing history. Hoping it will change sometime in future, bcaz we all should Pawista rehey sajar sey Umeed Bahar rakhey, shaeed kabi aaseh ho.

  • India Fan on January 16, 2012, 12:46 GMT

    @ Pakistan Fans should shut up remember your batting greats three consecutive test series whitewashes in Australia all this knee jerk reaction because India lost two test series. We Indian fans have short memory loss not long ago we were praising this team when they beat all the past world champions now all of sudden we want to abandon our team a true fan is who supports the team during wins and loss.Pakistan didnt win a test series from 2006 to 2010 despite playing at home few times no one complained but when India lost two test series they are coming out of their dens.Lets see how Pak peform when you take Misbah and Younis khan out of the team.

  • Raj on January 16, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    Its time to indian cricket to get rid of senior players, yes they served our country has raised on many occations however based on the past performance they can't be still played. Young players are far better Ashwin, Zaheer and Virat played well than Sehwag,dravid, tendulkar, dhoni and vvs laxman. How can sehwag can be so careless and dravid getting bowled every time. All seniors players are made good money and name now they don't have any other motivation to play well so atleast young players have that burn......... bottomline seniors should announce their retirement

  • Pallab on January 16, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Making green top pitches in India is definitely a solution to avoid these kind of drubbing when we play outsside the sub-continent , but I doubt if BCCI would ever think in that line, the reason would be because then our team (at least initially) would start loosing the matches even at home. But, for a long term benefit I do not think there is any other solutions to this perennial problem of loosing out side the sub-continent simply because we have still not adepted playing on bouncy and fast tracks even after so many years.

  • santo on January 16, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    More politics involved in the Indian cricket team as well as bcci and the bloody selection committed(kris srikanth (chutiya)) stuckd to states giving priority to chaatugiris and hiding the original talent...Much talent exist in senior batsmans of ind team...for some reason they dont want dhoni to captain the team...time up dhoni(cool mind)bye bye..

  • Rakesh on January 16, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Guys... There is 4th Test to come and if it finishes in 2 days then ? Players are making money and once you become greedy you do not see anything but money.

  • ultrasnow on January 16, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    I did not read the article, so, no comments.

  • ashutosh on January 16, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    In my opinion, changes must be brought from the root level. for ex.- 1)If we need more classy players, who have temperament & technique to play on any pitch,then we must provide exposure at first home. By this I'm not saying that all pitches must be fast & bouncy. There must be some pitches(eg.-Mohali,Nagpur etc.) which must be real FAST.For this if needed,then completely new wicket must be laid.... But in parallel we must keep our tradition of SPINNING tracks. By this selectors will be able to choose better players,who adapt better all over India on different tracks. 2) SCRAP IPL.....or of it's not possible then,for God's sake,keep it only to 1 month max.It's ruining future players.

  • Vikram on January 16, 2012, 12:05 GMT

    WoW!!! I am thinking either people think we are truely the best team in the world and are disappointed because we are not or they seem to have no knowledge of cricket and just want to say blah blah

    Currently all countries are doing great at home and loosing pretty badly in foreign soil....wait till the so called world number 1 team England loose to Pakistan on purely batting pitches, not even in Pakistan....

    I am a big fan of indian team and very unhappy seeing Indian team loose so badly but the fact is...ball seams right from the start of match and spins from the 3-4th day if at all so things look different

    India will beat any team at home on anyday....let us hope our new brand of cricketers can do better in future and win overseas else we will continue to be at par with the prevailing top teams in the world

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    Indian team is technically a bit superior than other teams .Indian lack in physical strength and fire to to unsettle the oppostion. Indian tend to roll over by hostile teams. They need to stand up and be aggressive in their approach rather than be timid.You are now down anyway and nothing to loose and just fight it out.

  • Pavan Marudhuri on January 16, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    IPL and T20 cricket is the most sought after in India these days. However worse the Indian team performs in Tests, nobody would bother :((. In England, they had put blame on World Cup, IPL, injuries, so on and so forth. Now they don't have any excuses for this worst performance. As always, Selectors gave a team, which is Strong "only on paper". I don't have any hope that BCCI may do something in future to avoid these kind of pathetic perfromances.

  • Pakistani Cricket fan on January 16, 2012, 11:53 GMT

    Well done India. Keep up the good work and have a perfect record in Australia this summer. India go 4-0

  • Asif Kabir on January 16, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    After the retirement of 3 world class batsman from test cricket India will be compared with Bangladesh. They have a great chance to lost test series in Bangladesh within in 2/3 years.

  • Suraj on January 16, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    I am not sure why so much hatred against IPL. It lasts for only 16 (640 overs- just about 1.5 Test match) games and 6 weeks for each team.

    The problem, as I see it, is India's inability to play at bouncy tracks abroad (India is competitive at home). Solution- BCCI should either make similar tracks at home or let Indian players play in T20 or other leagues abroad. Right now, BCCI controls all Indian players (some could have played in BBL and English and S. Africa T20 leagues) and treats them like prisoners or slaves of BCCI. Let them lose.

  • O.P.Bidasaria on January 16, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    In my opinion excessive money in IPL and advertisement contracts at home is the real problem of Indian Test Play.BCCI is paying enough money to Indian players.They should ban participating of Indian Players in Advertisement Campaign of the products. Look at Dhoni,Sehwag,Yuvraj,Tendulkar.They are playing for money.Once the Ban is imposed they will concentrate on the Cricket.At present their time is wasted on the glamour world. Secondly BCCI should prepare the fast pitches like Australia and England and every first class match should be played on such pitches so that new crop of players are accustomed to play on such pitches right from the begning.

  • Larry on January 16, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    Under Duncan Fletcher England lost to Australia 4-0.Now India under Fletcher has lost to England 4-0 andon course for 4-0 drubbing by Australia.Me thinks Fletcher is jinxed.May be he is the Jonah!

  • Baskar Guha on January 16, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    The reality is that like in England, Australia decided that the way to beat India and its batting strength is to prepare pitches that are grassy so that in addition to bounce, one gets seam - a deadly combination for any batsman, Indian or not. They also knew that India really has a slowish Zaheer who can pose problems to their batsmen but not much else. These plans have worked better than even the hosts expected - Indian batsmen have struggled and Indian bowlers have not really troubled enough of the Aussies. The results are there to see.

    Given this reality, it is quite shocking to see article after article, fan after fan, berating the Indian batsmen. They are good (and they were great not too long ago) but no batsman can survive the Aussie pitches that we have seen for too long against very good bowling which the Aussies have in spades. What we need is a pool of very good pace bowlers to compete abroad just like Australia would need more than Nathan Lyon for India.

  • booboo on January 16, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    Too many people falling out of love with cricket. Cancel the Champions League that nobody cares about, cut back on the IPl, have a proper home season based round fixed dates/occasions, invest the BCCI money into preparing bats and balls for kids across the sub-continent.

  • shahrukh on January 16, 2012, 11:09 GMT

    Hi, I am a Pakistani. And I know the anger and frustration Indian fans must feel. I will ask them to be patient and stand behind their team (which I know they will!). Good times come and go; India is a cracking team but in all honesty, there are a few critical points it needs to address. India needs a more stable upper-middle order, and new faces. Wins will become rarer when new faces arrive but it will be a treat to watch, I would really like to see a more aggressive, athletic Indian team. And like every Pakistani, would love to see them come up against Pakistan!

  • Geoff Single on January 16, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    Indian cricket is in self delusionthe teamhas never won series away in South Africa or Australia and only has a better win loss ratio against Bangladesh Zimbabwe Sri Lanka and New Zealand big changes are needed or many lean years lie ahead.

  • saano on January 16, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    BBCI Should Consider Golden Hand Shake Deal With Players

  • Bhaskar Tandon on January 16, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    No need to play 'Test 'cricket. No money, neither indian players nor the indian crowd are least interested. Just play 20:20 and ODIs and enjoy ourselves. Test cricket is a dying sport; only matter of time.

  • r ns on January 16, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    Ban IPL and boycott all cricket matches for 2 years..Things will be all right.We fools,the fans are responsible for this mess msince we forget such defeats fast and are interested in only gloryfying the individual recors of our cricketeers.

  • YASEEN on January 16, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    MY SIMPLE ADVICE IS THIS TO LEFT OUT SACHIN AND LAXMAN FROM ALL FORMAT OF GAMES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW THE BURDEN FOR THE WHOLE TEAM SORRY FOR SAY THAT IF INDIA WANT TO BE A GOOD CRICKET THEY NEED NEW BLOOD THE OLD GUNS POWDERS ARE KNOW DRY OUT USE NEW GUNS

  • subroto on January 16, 2012, 10:40 GMT

    Thank you for putting our emotions so eloquently into words. Bishen Bedi’s comment: "I am saying this with a heavy heart, but once the IPL comes around in April, every Test defeat will be forgotten." evoked the deepest despair and the fear how true his comments are. What hope can there be of the elusive light at the end of the proverbial tunnel when the vice president of the BCCI and chairman of the IPL, and the president of the BCCI and owner of Chennai Super Kings are the same persons? What hope is there that BCCI will ever commission an unprejudiced and meaningful review on the lines that England and Australia did ? If you think I am just being unnecessarily pessimistic after a run of poor performances on tour, read Rajiv Shukla’s comments. I know I will keep awake from midnight during the Adelaide test, hoping for that impossible turn around, so that we might just be able to save a tiny bit of our pride. The despair I can live with, it is the hope that kills me.

  • Abdullah Shaikh on January 16, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    Come IPL and the fans will start forgetting everything. The human memory is very weak. It is infact a blessing in disguise, bcos if the memory was strong enough to remember even half the things, then every body would be very frustrated and desparate. As far as the bosses in the BCCI are concerned they will continue to be as spinless as ever. Nothing will change. come the home series or any series against any weaker teams all the 36+ players will play and improve their records and infact even set new records like sehwag did against the WI. In fact i think the Pak team management did better when they sent a very young composit team to Zimbabwe. It gave youngsters like Cheema, J.Khan, Sohail Khan etc to show their wares. Even exterened playeers like Shoeb Malik, Sohail Tanvir etc got chance. I think Indian selectors also need to show long term vision. if they dont then these things will continue and Kris Srikant will continue to make spineless statements like collective failure.

  • A.T. on January 16, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    I don't think green pitches at home is the solution. Every team plays to its strengths and our strength is spin. However, greener wickets that what we currently have are called for. Maybe something like Mohali. Also, stricter selection policies that ignore seniority and experience and go on current form. Based on that, VVS, Gambhir and Sehwag would have never made the squad for Australia. It seems that our players play better when they are threatened for their place in the side, or else they become complacent. So, if we keep that pressure on them, we can get the best out of them. It is unfortunate that our Indian players tend to be selfish like that, but then we have no option but to use that to our advantage.

  • Seedan on January 16, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    @Zlato..perfect observation. Savor this "The belling of that particular cat needs doing.". Samir's got the Bhogle disease of verbosity.

  • Baskaran on January 16, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    When Sachin has 20years experience in cricket field, he might have seen 1000s of challenging bowling bowled to him still he gets out by not able to read the ball bowled to him which is really a worry and he needs to think about it. In perth test, from Gambir, Shewag pair, I was thinking whether this pair could give us some sort of happiness but I was disappointed and turned off the television because, my heart was pumping very fast whenever we lost wicket. He really screwed millions of fans happiness. Ofcourse, all our seniors have done good jobs in the past but they got to do when they need to but they are failing in all those occasions. In Cricinfo, the heading was "Australia maul India", "Australia destroys India" which really hurt me. I don't know what Players would think when they read these headings. May be they are practicing here in Australia to do very well in IPL.

  • Adarsh on January 16, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    You talking about ODI cricket as the best, get a life!!! What happened to india in the English ODI series, werent we humiliated there? You talk about defeating them at home? India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are the only places where the bowl will spin right from day 1, even Pakistan has 95% bouncy and pacy pitches. Test cricket is the ultimate one where your character is tested, your patience is tested, your skill is tested, your technique is tested. ODI cricket is more easy to play because the white ball does not swing or seam like the Red cherry, you wont have 3 slips all the time, you can go after the bowling any time you want without even thinking about edging to slips. And gre,gmat, cat and all other exams are written after more and more of preparation, test cricket is like the preparation and ODI is like the exam. Test cricket is the best format.Pakistan dropping too many catches of sachin and Afridi being off colour, doesnt it make anyone suspect that WC was fixed? I do!!

  • tendulkar on January 16, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    Best way for tendulkar 100th ton will be bcci has to invite bangladesh for a tour in india . TENDULKAR CAN DESTROY

    BANGLADESH BOWLING

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 10:02 GMT

    IPL isn't Indian Premier League. It is Indian-cement Premier League.

  • Bingo Haley on January 16, 2012, 9:52 GMT

    Anyone who thought that Australia-India would be played out to a 2-2 result is just a jingoistic Indian fan.

    And chilly East Coast? Where Orissa?

  • Kuljit Singh on January 16, 2012, 9:48 GMT

    I would suggest that India better start playing cricket only in India and not abroad. At least they might have got a good chance of winning.

  • atif on January 16, 2012, 9:34 GMT

    india is only good in india - they have been crap and will be zero outside country, how can you be a champion when you lost all seven tests you played thats worse than Bangladesh etc . its shame that india is playing boring cricket and the are not giving youngester chances, Sachin & Laxman are too old to even carry a bat let alone win the game, Dhoni is look like bus driver with grumpy face and Dravid is too shy to even face camera because he is grand dad.

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    Lot of guys here are talking about IPL and twenty20. But, remember India had done very badly in the last two twenty20 world cups and they are currently sitting at No.7 in twenty20 rankings. In both world cups India were troubled by pace and bounce like they are in test cricket. So the roots of this malady must be much deeper.

  • Pallab mukherjee on January 16, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    the guy sanjay is frustrating. u wrote so much rubbish. lol

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    @Piyush - Said it vey right....

  • Dan on January 16, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    @Sanjay: Just a question or 2. Were you saying test cricket was boring and finished when India were ranked number one? Your comments do not make sense as they contradict. You state that test cricket should be stopped but then you suggest that India should tour Australia every 2.5 years and play 3 tests.

    Do you think Australia want to keep playing a team that loses in 2.5 days? Why would they want to do that when their associations lose money. Surely for Australia playing against England and South Africa would be a better choice (in Australia).

    People have talked about dropping NZ out of test cricket. I ask why? NZ showed far more fight in their matches with Australia than India have. At least NZ looked like they wanted to be there. MS Dhoni looks utterly disinterested.

  • Ramchandran A on January 16, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    a point to be noted is that while all teams place so much value on an alrounder (bowler who can bat) to get their balance right,we tend to play with 7 batsmen and 4 bowlers. While this works in India it will not in SA and AUS. The 3-0 result is partly because our lower order (incldues MSD) has not contributed at all. Kudos to Mcdermot for planning the downfall of the famed batting line up. Captain has to lead by example. MSD's lack of technique or no technique is really hampering his batting in these pitches. Its time we shift the test captaincy to Virat or Gambhir. Sehwag is extremely loose and dis-interested. We need a batting captain who cares about his batting, has some sort of technique to grind it out in the middle, may not be attractive but has to gutsy. SRT,RD and VVS days are numbered anyway. Better to groom Gambhir and Virat into captaincy now..MSD has had his days and he will go in 2013. Mike brearly never had great batting averages. He was a good captain for few years.

  • Sreedhar on January 16, 2012, 8:45 GMT

    The problem that ails India's performance in test matches abroad stems from the fact that we dont prepare bouncy seaming tracks at home. Our players have no clue how to play against the bouncing and seaming ball and hence they struggle. Earlier there used to be a number of practice matches before and between tests, that does not happen any more. Add to this our inherent tendency to try and score runs rather than occupy the crease and let the bowlers start to experiment and err in line and length which you can then capitalize on as a top order bastman. Time to sack all these blokes - Viru, Gambhir, Sachin, Dravid, VVS and MSD - replace them with Rahane, Tiwari, Kohle, Raina, Rohit, Rayudu. Bowling is the only heartening point but again Ishant needs to go. Ashwin will fit the All rounder spot at 7. Saha the WK and then Zaheer, Umesh and Praveen. Separate teams for tests and separate teams for ODI's. Fitness is critical and has to be monitored consistently.

  • Naguib Khan on January 16, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    India is the one and only team, where most of the players are concentrating on their individual benefits rather than team's. Raina, Sehwag and dhoni are exceptions... Look at the innings of Clarke!! A real patriotic innnings man.

  • Mark on January 16, 2012, 8:36 GMT

    We've been here before. Saying that the IPL has nothing to do with this is just refusing to see reality. In 1983 India won the World Cup. It changed the way that even the established stars played, with its empahsis on 4s and 6s rather than building innings. The result was several years desperate mediocrity of the Test team. Now the IPL makes superstars of players for seeing out 5 overs: the perfect preparation for a Test series and the same players believe their hype rather than getting down to the hard work of showing that it is justified. The entire Indian cricket scene is set up around the IPL and making money from the IPLT: Test cricket is an afterthought, if it is even that.

  • Ram on January 16, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    IPL is only part of the problem. As if India was a great test team pre IPL. India has sucked in criket from their earliest days to the most modern days, save for a few years of brilliance.

    India, as a whole suck in sports, in almost every sport. This is the grim reality. While fans of other bigger countries count the medals tally at the end of an Olympic games, Indian fans are just eager to verify if India is there at all on the medals tally, some where at the bottom with the odd bronze or silver medal. A nation with a billion plus population has problems getting a medal or two in the Olympics. Somewhere, deep down the ethos of the country, there lies a big problem - perhaps it is corruption, lack of recognition of merit and talent, lack of motivation, discipline, lack of athleticism etc. Mediocrity represents India at all levels in sports and that is all you can get.

  • Ashmit on January 16, 2012, 8:21 GMT

    After reading the vocabulary in this article, I feel like Indian batsmen: CONFUSED!!!

  • Swaminathan on January 16, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    I am 50 now ... even for me this meek surrender is baffling ... we are known to be poor travellers ... but occasionally .. there used to be a beacon light in every test series ... a win or at least an honorable draw .. perched in between frequent defeats ... but in the two latest overseas series .. it is evident that the seniors are in no mood to stretch themselves beyond mediocre achievements (like a personal 50, etc.) ...

  • Shailu on January 16, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    Some Rules of Indian Cricket Team: 1.If Opposition team make a 50 run p'ship, be defensive. 2.If P'ship goes past 100 then do nothing.Just wait for opposition captain to declare Innings. 3.Give easy singles to New Batsman. 4.Bowl short and wide to tailenders so that they can smash boundaries. Don't waste your energy in bowling bouncers to them. 5.While batting don't look for singles and doubles. Instead try to hit boundaries from first ball.(e.g:Shehwag) 6.If you lost first wicket then be very defensive and try to block everything(Like Dravid) and look for saving the game. 7.Loose 4-5 wkts at least in one session of your inns. 8.Give opposition bowler good rhythm by playing maiden overs. 9.Loose your last 4 wickets for less then 10 runs so that your bowlers can be fresh for next inns or next test.

  • swami on January 16, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    why all this talk of dropping seniors only dravid and vvs. how about sewag,gambhir and of course tendulkar. are they seniors or not? feel lot of discrimination and hero worship of criceteers in india. feel anyway we r loosing, why not a gresh and young indian team? lets loose few series but will improve matters in a few years time. invite comments from fellow readers. thanks. being a cricketeer myself and great love for the game i poured out my feelings

  • S B Koppikar on January 16, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    Ever since I was in school, and that was about 50 years ago, I have been an avid cricket watcher, having played during my college days with greats like Jaysimha, Abbas Ali beg, Abid Ali and so on. I have seen Indian cricket grow from the ordinary to its recent zenith and now its nadir in the ignominious spineless game both from the captain and his cronies. I have a feeling that Dhoni, as also most of the other cricketers are pampered beyond limits such that they do not feel any pride in playing for the country having filled their pockets beyond their wildest imaginations, has been out of his luck in having someone or the other in the team would shore up the innings. I and like me many others are thinking of giving up cricket craze for good.

  • Zulfab on January 16, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    Indian cricketers & commentators (Shatri, Gavaskar) are too pre-occupied with personal milestones. Shastri's comment that after 9 wkts down Kohli should "go for his 100" is gross! This whole tour has been focussed on Tendulkar getting his 100th 100. The whole team has been pre-occupied with it. BCCI got a lot of money. Why not invite Bangladesh or Zimbabwe for a 3 ODI series to India so that Tendulkar can get his 100th 100. Then the Test Cricket team & Shastri can go on & concentrate on TEST CRICKET & maybe, just maybe, India will perform better in South Africa, Australia & England.

  • Cricket Freak on January 16, 2012, 7:37 GMT

    I am simply bemused at this Indian team composition. Going in with all quicks probably works out well for non-spin producing nations like Australia but certainly not for India. Its our strength. Our tracks back @ home are suited to producing good spinners, if any. I really miss a player like Kumble, who has the ability to get wickets at crunch times. Its hard to find such talent these days. We certainly need to prepare pitches which match overseas conditions like in Australia / South Africa which support good bounces. With nothing but flat tracks, we can hardly produce quality bowlers. My only question to the selectors when they comment 'Out batting line-up failed to put enough runs on the board for the bolwlers to defend'. When they can get you out for 160 and odds why not you do the same to them. In fact, they are a diminished team as well with no Brett Lee, McGrath, Watson, Hayden, Warne, Gilly. God save this team. It certainly is capable. Needs a right leader, right motivation.

  • Theena on January 16, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    longmemory I think has hit the nail in the head. I'd add the comments of the chief selector, Srikanth, whose absolutely appalling responses to post-series inquiry is part of the problem (and who, like Srinivasan, thinks nothing of the conflict of interest between his roles as the national cricket selector and his ambassadorial role for the Chennai SuperKings).

    Right now, out of all the ex-cricketers it is only Kapil Dev who is constantly questioning of the BCCI's priorities. Gavaskar (sadly) and Shastri (almost inevitably) are lost causes, sucked into the vortex of back-slapping and delusion that fuels the BCCI.

  • Rakesh on January 16, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    Bring Gary Kirsten back...

  • Dau on January 16, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    It is the money making indian board that is actually set at destroying the ICC by controlling it and trying to bully other nations. Arrogance comes with money and false sense of pride and quality. Both were a doomsday recipie for the indian cricket, and I see no hope for cricket in india. IPL will continue, the money will be the focus, the arrogance is not going anywhere and will reappear and india will do its best not to play with Pakistan, not to go out and play in good cricketing countries, but the world know its standard of cricket!!! It is the consequence of their limited mindset!!!

  • ravi on January 16, 2012, 7:16 GMT

    Can't we all just take it easy. Yes, the team had been soundly beaten abroad. Then let's see, is there any team that has won consistently abroad in the last 2-3 years? None. Not SA, Not Aus, not Eng, not SL, not Pak or NZ. I'm not defending the Indian team for the losses, change is indeed imminent. But let's give the seniors a proper farewell (at home) for all that they did over 15-20 years and move ahead. England has rebuilt their team, so did Aus and Pak; It's the turn of India and SL now; Next year, probably SA will have to. Then, hopeully we will have 5-6 years of glorious games.

  • Raggie on January 16, 2012, 7:14 GMT

    May be why dont BCCI buy foreign players like IPL, to play in test matches for india abroad... lol . think thats the only way india going to win away matches by employing there own players in their country

  • Haroon Ahmed on January 16, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    IPL and T20 Cricket. This is the reason of destruction of this Indian batting line up. Look at Sri Lankans as well, even Jaywardene and Sangakara has lost their way, since they have started to play IPL. They are scoring heavily on flat pitches, but on seamer friendly pitches, all batting giants just go down so easily. Pull out from T20, and batting in test matches will improve.

  • darkhorse on January 16, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    Humble request to all my country fans,dont watch indian cricket on tv or in the stadiums.U will see the result in next 6 months.Bcci will become beggers for sure.

  • Vaidhya on January 16, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    All cricket enthusiasts need to get somethings correct. BCCI is a private body hellbent at making as much money possible. They are adept at their business and still churn billions even as India's abysmal run of poor showing continues. Don't go back to them with suggestions of restructuring domestic cricket when you have the option of shutting off your tv sets while the match is on. Its us the fan's stupidity to keep expecting the unexpected thats making the BCCI grow strong. Can we all do it?

  • dinesh on January 16, 2012, 6:10 GMT

    till the next home match....or the stupid 20-20 or ODI

  • Kool Kat on January 16, 2012, 6:09 GMT

    Samir, the Indian fan is a strange creature. For him, the real disaster is not a 20-0 thrashing, but SRT not getting a 100 100s or worse, SRT being asked to go. Looked at from that perspective, nothing terribly wrong out there. The Aussies and Poms wouldn't mind though. They simply have to say,"Tendulkar is the greatest", to keep the Indian fan happy.

  • kannan on January 16, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    Some very good suggestions out forward by Rams. Of course, there is the Dravid Gravitas like who keep labouring the point about Dhoni ( in multiple comments) and forget the fact that Dravid too should be eased out. On top of all this,the BCCI president delivers the ultimate insult to the cricket fans when he says, " we will win at home and everyone will be happy". How callous is that? How ignorant can one get. In that one sentence, he has shown his lack of respect for the fan, non chalance and flippancy. NO wonder the BCCI is a money making behemoth alone , with zilch interest in the growth of the game. The rut starts right at the top. I am deeply anguished and have grave concerns for the future of Indian test cricket.

  • ramanujam sridhar on January 16, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    Yes sad. Yet a couple of points are relevant here. The Champions league had smaller crowds and lower ratings. I expect the IPL also because it is for all of 53 days , to have lower ratings. The people who have benefited from IPL have been foreigners because they get used to subcontinental conditions and bowlers. Warner made his reputation here and is playing for Australia. India have not yet scraped the bottom of the barrel, because their next few series will be at home and if we win the t20 world cup in Sri Lanka, then all will be forgotten. The biggest problem will be when the three greats leave and Zahir and Sehwag become a little less effective. That would be serious. The trouble is that BCCI cannot see beyond the tip of its nose and is only worried about the short term. When there was talk of an Argus style inquisition after England, Sunil Gavaskar shouted it down. If this is not time for action, I wonder what is!! Of course the Board of Control for Confusion in India is smiling

  • Sivaraman on January 16, 2012, 5:54 GMT

    I daresay that this is one of those brilliantly written articles about the current state of cricket in this nation obsessed to unbelievable proportions to the game.. With so much fixtures scheduled almost day in and day out, we hardly get any time to reflect on any success or failure.. Before we could get down from the high of winning the world cup, reality hit on our face brutally with the England Series.. Then, before we could get out of the disappointment of that loss, we were again elated with the series win against England and WI at home soil.. Now, again loss to Aussies.. What this clearly suggests is that quality of the game has taken over by Commercial Interests, at least in this part of the world.. This, i guess is bcos of those at the top - the big booty business men, who have no connection to the game, never knew the game at least at the basic level, running the show in the name of BCCI.. You got to look at a sport as a sport, not as a mode of earning money..

  • partha on January 16, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    its high time we should stop comparing Test cricket to IPL. As we are giving too much importance to T20 circus as how can we take pride in players/team which has performed well in short form of cricket .Test cricket gives ample opportunity to every player to perform . Aussie bowlers showed so much of discipline which is undermined here & we harped more on our failures. Aussie played supreme cricket so lets give thumps up to them as Indian team even in past has never performed well in boucny wicket. we always admire indiviual perfrormance over team in the Past we used to talk about innings of Gavaskar,Vishwanath ,Mohinder against tough condition now we talk about Dravid,Laxman & Sachin. But how many away series against touch opponent we have won so far..we will forget this series in no time once the IPL circus starts..

  • Anudeep Bhandari on January 16, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    Its time for educated (by that I mean true sport education which can only come by loving the sport and not a particular team) Indian sports fan to leave cricket and follow some other sport. But what sport? Football has no national rivalries (except world cup) and club football is far too one sided except UEFA which is too distant for Indian fans. Hockey, we all know will soon become DODO of Indian sports. Tennis is not at the same level as it used to be in the 90's. I'm going with Archery!

  • VNS on January 16, 2012, 5:42 GMT

    Althogh IPL is bringing in money to BCCI, IPL IS ACTUALLY hurting India's performance overseas, and it will also India's performance IN INDIA, because many of these overseas players get used to playing Indian bowlers IN INDIA, and will take them to the cleaners when their countries tour India.

    The only way for Indians to succeed overseas is to get a core bunch of Indian players to play in county cricket in England and also more A side teams to play longer versions of the game in Aus, SA NZ and England. Case in point is Zaheer's revival after he played in English county team.

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 5:32 GMT

    What this series has exposed is how dependent the famed middle order is on the opening pair. the last few years have seen the middle order come good often but this has been after a blistering Sehwag Gambhir start. The solution moving forward would be to drop both Dravid & Laxman. Kohli has had a couple of good innings & should be a regular.Pujara should return & form the other replacement. Rohit has yet to be given an opportunity in tests but this will surely come. Another question the selectors need to look at is whether it makes more sense to have Sehwag bat down the order. The opening choices dont look very promising but an early wicket need not result in a sense of panic if Sehwag is at no.5/no.6.

  • Anirban on January 16, 2012, 5:21 GMT

    We need such things to repeat time and again, so that there's at least a chance for the revival of interest in some other sports in India..such as soccer..

  • Bimal on January 16, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    Y are the seniors still trying to embarrass themselves...dont they know what enuff is enuff...Y are they creating a space in the crcket lovers mind to despise them for voluntarily not retiring...past performances are past...they did wat they cud in their days...Its time for them to nurture their kids for the next generation cricket....

  • Jayasankar on January 16, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    Actually, the indications were there in the West Indies tour. See how we struggled to dominate there? How many times did we pass 300? And that last test match which we chose not to win. It wasn't much different when they came to India. We allowed West Indies to have their moments. India should stop looking at the positives after each match. There aren't any. And even if there were, dwelling on the positives would only serve to paper the cracks existing. We might as well lose with a bunch of inexperienced, but honest triers rather than fail to reach even 300 regularly with the world's top two run-getters in the team.

    Also, what exactly is it that Eric Simmons does with us?

  • Ozzi on January 16, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    India get what they deserve here, the way they carried on last time they were here in Australia was shameful. The only reason they (the Indian team) were not exsposed for what they are (whingers, bullies & hypocrites) was the powerful BCCI influence. Habajhan Singh/monkeygate scandal case in point.

    As an Australian this has to be the sweetest victory I can remember. Love seeing the Aussies humilate the Indians.

  • N Krishnamoorthy on January 16, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    One has to admire the wisdom of BCCI. They probably knew that India and its ageing batting will be blown away in Australia and so, ensured that next 2 years of cricket will only be played in home soil on probably under prepared wickets where even Sehwag's off-spin will appear far more menacing that what Prasanna or Jim Laker or Lance Gibbs would have appeared in their hey days! We will win a few matches here and all will be forgotten and we can again boast of the strongest batting line up in the world.

    Without quality domestic cricket, about which the BCCI does not appear to care, we will always produce mediocre batsmen. But we now live IPL, sleep IPL, eat IPL and worship IPL. Let Test cricket go to dogs! BCCI was forced to take interest in test cricket since we somehoe managed to bag the No 1 Spot. That compulsion is thankfully no longer there. So, we will again have series with 1 test, 5 T-20s and 5 ODIs. Long live Test cricket!!!

  • Vipra on January 16, 2012, 4:56 GMT

    There is nothing to grieve here. Cricket is a sport and the better team usually wins. Australia had a much superior bowling attack and they won. Of course, we all know that over the years, pitches have been flattened and hostile pace attacks are not that common. Australia have tried to revive this element by preparing responsive wickets under helpful conditions and with a bunch of young and energetic bowlers (unlike India's spineless brigade epitomised by messieurs Ishant, Vinay, Zaheer & Umesh). Such disasters are inevitable as teams develop newer strategies and India (given its historically poor fast bowling credentials) does not stand a chance. We should accept this fact and move on instead of getting emotional and blaming it on the seniors. The scenario would not have been any different even if we had a bunch of youngsters in the team. Of course, we would have delusionally consoled ourselves saying that they are young and that they are learning!!!

  • Gerry_the_Merry on January 16, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    In 1982-83, West Indies played 5 tests at home v/s India. Then World Cup. Then 6 away against India. Then 5 at home v/s Aus. Then 5 away v/s Eng. Then 5 away v/s Aus. In between 3 triangular touraments, World Cup, World Championship of Cricket, and hence over 24 months, non-stop cricket including 26 tests, around 50 one day matches.

    They smashed everyone to pulp, never complained, always entertained, crowds loved them everywhere, they schedule makes today's calendar look quite relaxed. Just a great attitude those guys had. And very professional - no go karting, extremely sharp attention to skills and fitness, hungry for success and proud.

    But of course, we Indians are creative when it comes to defending our beloved losers.

  • Ajaxus on January 16, 2012, 4:26 GMT

    @longmemory: I actually believe that Kohli getting a century would have benefited India more in the long run than avoiding an innings defeat. At that point defeat was certain anyway. What difference would it have made whether we lost by an innings and 60 or got an overall lead of 10 and Aus won by 10 wkts? At that point, I think Kohli getting a century and feeling secure in a middle order spot that might be his for a while would have been more beneficial. There are lessons to be learnt in a defeat. I don't believe the BCCI are prepared to learn them. Unless we throw the kids in at the deep end on an overseas tour, we will end up fattening them up on a steady diet of test matches at home, only to end up in this same situation in 3 years.

  • Bhavesh on January 16, 2012, 4:15 GMT

    The batsmen are professional cricketers. They are paid to perform in all conditions - period. No excuses. Shewag - consistently inconsistent in fact consistent in getting out cheaply - this cannot be a feature for Test cricket. Need to have temperament for playing Test cricket. Sachin - everyone is fixated on getting his hundredth 100. Come on play for your country...instead of just trying to pile up records. How many times in recent years have you played to make India win?? Maybe get your 100 and get out to make way for new comers.

    The top 4-5 have hogged the spot for too long and it needs to be opened up for new comers. At least the new comers will show some kind of spine to fight instead of meekly giving in.

    We need Bangladesh tour to India so that all the top 6 can hit centuries and say they are back in form.

  • stmaryax on January 16, 2012, 4:05 GMT

    Who cares if India win or lose. Watching test cricket is about watching a contest, and that's the problem with this series. I would gladly watch India losing if they scrapped it out for five days, kept things competitive and showed some fight on the strip in the middle. Watching this series isn't really sport -- only one team has come to play. India has already decided they have lost, and it's depressing to watch a team go through the motions. One commentator said it best: the whole team is silent when they're on the field. No one is encouraging the bowlers, no one is pumped up to play. Of the guys out there, only Virat, Ashwin and Tendulkar have shown any desire to tough it out. Sehwag, Gambhir and Laxman just act like it's batting practice on a Sunday afternoon. If you can't show up and play hard for your country, adapt to the situation and give it your best shot when the chips are down, let someone else who will (I'm thinking especially of Sehwag: "that's just how he plays")

  • Anil on January 16, 2012, 4:03 GMT

    Since the ball has to land on the ground before reaching the bat, outcome is always going to be ground-based, so to speak. Each country has its preferred grounds, and a visiting team gets beaten there, most of the time. There is no way ICC can impose ground rules, and it is highly unlikely any one team is going to dominate cricket from now on, as you can carefully deconstruct an opposition on your grounds. Best approach is to forget about test cricket and play one day cricket. Test cricket is a colonial legacy and has taken precious time and life out of countries.

  • Analyst on January 16, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    I believe that apart from batsmen failure, busy calendar, BCCI etc. bowlers are *primarily* responsible for such shame in overseas conditions.

    Unfortunately we did not have Pace battery or Good fast bowlers who could bowl at good line and length *consistently* to bowl out opposite team on such juicy and grassy Australian wickets.

    No team can produce good totals on such wickets if opposite team's bowlers are not at good line and length. That is why test series played between Aus, NZ, Eng, SA etc. always gets results with fights. Secret is that they all have good fast bowlers who could bowl and consistent line and length.

    Look at recently concluded NZ-Aus test series played in Aus, SA-Aus series played in SA, and you will understand what I mean.

    I can prove by fact and figures, but not much space to write completely :) Maybe somewhere sometimes on talk show to prove it.

  • Bipul on January 16, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    We are watching demise of Indian Cricket

  • Jai on January 16, 2012, 3:46 GMT

    Ganguly had the ability to recognize the extraordinary talent of his batting unit and was hungry to make use of it to win abroad. He wanted to correct this flaw in india's cricketing history. For this, he fought with the board for the team and the schedule he wanted. Now we have a captain who is primarily a product of limited overs cricket - who has seen success in odi and t20 world cups and who has been synonymous with IPL and champions league. He is a misfit for captaining the test side - not because he lacks the capability - but because he lacks the desire. In part his success, money and fame from his wins in the world of limited overs cricket has become a liability in the one of test cricket.

  • Cricket Lover on January 16, 2012, 3:40 GMT

    Watching Sehwag strolling out to open the innings, we already know that India is one wicket down. Sadly, the same can be said about Dravid. I am happy for us to loose, but only if our team is comprised of youngsters instead of 40 year olds. Please, please remove Laxman and Dravid from the side. They have been fantastic, but now is the time. Sliding Sehwag down the order, perhaps 5 or 6 is a good choice in my opinion.

  • kunu on January 16, 2012, 3:29 GMT

    oh boy oh boy Indian cricket is in deep trouble.Surely one of the big 3 will leave after this series.But I wonder why people blame IPL for it.It is a small reason. Because when our team made an early exit in 2007 we blamed advertisements for it.Now we blame ipl and advertisements both, Surely this does not make sense.IPL might have affected the domestic structure.But the current Indian team is an experienced one. They r not suseptable to this.

  • Aliakbar on January 16, 2012, 3:21 GMT

    Dravid needs to be sticked there as he needs to continue with IPL franchises, Laxman has saturated with his game but still has planned to go for more 3 years to earn his income and get settled permanantly, pls anybody get sachin his 100th 100 so that he can walk off nicely atleast even though india loose bt sachin gets hundred its a pleasure to watch i dont knw wat is the solution with dravid and laxman, think BCCI should plan some innovative pension plans for this stalwarts.

  • nutynoty on January 16, 2012, 3:18 GMT

    The only good thing watching Indian Cricket in AU is that I am remembered Kamla pasand. Kamla must be a sweet pretty girl whom you have to like, not Aishwarya, NO.

  • Muhammad Bhatti on January 16, 2012, 3:17 GMT

    After the world cup when many Pakistanis commented that the Cup was not won but earned through money everybody in India thought it is all out of frustration from defeat.

    All the IPL matches are scripted and fixed. Pakistani team had a great record of winning against the best teams in the world. The Indian team can only be better when their players know that BCCI (ICC) can get any rule like DRS sidelined for them with their money power. The Indians lost the ability to now play real cricket.

  • sanjay on January 16, 2012, 3:12 GMT

    this ain't gonna change with 65% of world matches bound to happen in india, due to massive cricket following! Unless india prepares those kind of pitcches to give our crickers proper exposure it is not gonna change! Indians must learn to use light bats all the time, if there height is 5 ft 4( some are 5ft 3!). This will help for easy cut, pull and hook as already iterated by me. heavy bats are ok, where ball does not even rise above knees! So nothing gonna change soon( I am sure india will win odi format, as team is much better in that format). other than that nothing is gonna change. There is 2 years of subcontinent matches to follow! And after 2 years again india will lose in south africa, england and australia in that order, due to same problems again! I rest my case...

  • LL3 on January 16, 2012, 3:09 GMT

    Is it true the indians are only whinging because the party on the wicket lasted longer than their 2 innings.

  • sanjay on January 16, 2012, 3:09 GMT

    any meaning attached to it. australia will win in australia and india will win in india. Dint aussies lose 4 out of 6 matches in india recently, that too on flat tracks? If they are given turners, the match wont last even a day and half( remember mumbai dust bowl?) India will also massacre england, australia and south africa on serious turners like bangalore 1985 and some classic dust bowls of calcutta and feroz shah kotla! So stop this nonsense. Just play one world cup test tournament and get over it! These tours are meaningless without any significance attached to it!

    In modern life, one day cricket is the thing and it took 28 years for india to get the glory back! The debacle in australia and england is due to alien conditions and massive subcontinent mind style of cricket! The flat tracks in india are no where like pitches in england and australia! Indias can play fast bowling, amarnath has 100 and 90 on perth pitch of 80's!!!! And he dint use pillar as a bat! the debacle is due

  • kovaikanna on January 16, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    Fans need to first stop idolizing the stars and demand performance..Show your strength by ignoring an IPL season..Once the BCCI sees that their bottom line could take a hit they might start thinking ...The comment by N Srinivasan is the most idiotic and paints such a bad picture of India in general in the cricketing community...We need a Arab like revolution in the cricketing areana...

  • sanjay on January 16, 2012, 3:04 GMT

    and what vinay is doing here? zak is cannot bowl like hilfenhaus, he gets tired quickly( so he is only good for couple of spells). India missed even praveen kumar here! And another thing is one day cricket in every day superior to test cricktet! I know pundits are gonna cry about it but that is the truth. It is like any competitive exam! There is limited time to show skills! Does gre,gmat, cat and all other exams are 5 days long? Arent they the toughest exams in the world? On the same logic. one day cricket is like a proper 3 hour exam. you must exhibit all the skills in a limited amount of time like any other exam in real life. There is no 5 days marathon exams or interviews in any walk of life! So in those terms test cricket is antique! As i said it is easy once you get set and know what you are doing. consistent high performance is a testimony to this point! Did clark get out, on a pitch where indians were bundled out like pack of cards? Test cricket is waste of time without any ..

  • Srinath Menon on January 16, 2012, 3:03 GMT

    For a team to be called as Real No.1 we need to start winning matches abroad. All the hard work done from Dada's time at helm till 2009 has gone down the drain now with these 2 series losses...... India winning on home soil is not what will make them heroes , but playing abroad and winning will . Just take the leaf out of Aus team and start doing the right things at right time. One request to Indian team, pls treat IPL as Post - retirement thing and play the tests with as much Zing as shown in the senseless IPL.

  • sanjay on January 16, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    ... On the bouncy pitches you need a bat that feels as light as stump on hand( more like baseball bat). so that you are always as fast as the ball. you can pull,hook and cut with ease( look at english players that played last on australian soil, when cook and company made mince meat of ausralia!). Indians sub continent style of batting is there biggest undoing! And there is no way india can win if they go once in 4 years to australia( with not even a visit for one dayers in between!). There should at least go every 2 and half years and play 3 tests( this is the new generation and we are the power house of world cricket. so it is time to get it right!). Indians not playing country cricket is also not helping these days. And the lines bowled by australian bowlers are simply awesome. we saw what happens when indians also hit proper lines( we could also ship them out under 300). Ishant sharma has been total disappointment bowling short of a godo length not making batsman play all the time

  • krishna on January 16, 2012, 2:58 GMT

    sack dhoni first . he is not playing like a skipper.

  • Piyush on January 16, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    Public memory is so short! Historically India has always played like this with barely and approximately 25% win ratio. Granted the last 2 years were suprising, odd even! India would get into a mess but someone would suddenly score and we either saved the test or even won it. But that was a flash in the pan. As an indian fan be ready to see more of this. We are a mediocre team and will remain so. Every so often, we'll see the flashes in the pan sort of periods, but it would be good to keep your (the fan) feet grounded! Sigh! :-(

  • sanjay on January 16, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    hello, people who are underestimating significance of indian world cup, have no clue what they are talking about! Imagine if india had lost world cup and had to go through this humiliation? Test cricket is old school and meaningless. It is great in patches. It is easy to play test cricket, if you get your head right( warner, clarke and don bradman proved it!). There is no need to complicate it. In fact, the day is not far away when guys like warner will thrash 500 not out! There are so many advantages to it compared to a 1 day international! Like these days only 2 bouncers are allowed, plenty of singles and wide spaces alll day long, once you get set! India goofing due to flat tracks at home is nothing new. We do not have tracks where ball consistently rise above waist high! Play some tennis ball cricket and see how it works! Another thing is indian crickets are vertically challenged and there massive bats are not helping the cause! I will elaborate more due to character limit here!

  • Yousuf on January 16, 2012, 2:47 GMT

    One of the posters summed it up perfectly: Winning a test series away is the ultimate indicator of supremacy. Perfect conclusion! No world cup victory at home can match that. I am utterly convinced that India were the least deserved of all world cup winners.

  • SoCal on January 16, 2012, 2:43 GMT

    We, Indians, worship individuals while this is a team game where every member must deliver all the time. I am Sachin's biggest fan, but if we continue to talk about Tendulkar's 100th 100, and not talk about how to WIN the next match as a team, it is going to be the same old story.

    There is just not enough fire inside the belly of each player, it is full of endorsement money. Bowlers not maintaining the line and length, Sehwag's license to kill attitude, defensive approach by the captain and the coach, the list goes on.

    Just look at ourselves in our city cricket grounds, how many people want to bowl fast (run hard every delivery)? We all want to be cool batsmen hitting the boundaries.

    We are extremely hard working people, but just not on the cricket ground.

  • Srikanth on January 16, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    I'm willing to bet that this piece will end up as a reading comprehension exercise on the GRE or CAT.

  • Decorum on January 16, 2012, 2:21 GMT

    If it's any consolation, Aman, this is a global phenomenon. Here in Australia everybody except Cricinfo's staff seem to have forgotten that this team was bowled out for less than fifty a few weeks ago and lost a test to NZ for the first time in nearly 30 years. Yet the wins over India have the Aussie press "tooting its horns of supremacy again". Hubris. Sigh.

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    n sreenivasan, the bcci chief should be summarily fired.it is his responsibility to win tests abroad. to add to his utter incompetence, he has made arrogant and irresponsible comments. if india is fragile in australia and england as they have been, the other side will gain the psychological and technical edge and soon thrash india, in india.

  • Aussie Mark on January 16, 2012, 2:10 GMT

    No question I am a mad cricket fan and I love to beat India when India are playing well this victory is a little hollow and it gives the illusion that the Australian Cricket team is getting it back together I like the comments of Captain Clark, Australia still has a long way to go. The most dissapointing thing about the summer of cricket is that all the modern day great batsmen that are here on display including Ponting and Hussey have been very very dissapointing i would have loved to have seen the little magician score his 100th century here and hopefully he can do that in Adelaide which is a very friendly batting strip. To all the great cricket fans in India we aussies hope you get it together as well we all know you are a very proud cricket nation and this mob that you sent here this year on paper look very good maybe the players do not have the same passion as the man on the street sometimes money and fame can blind and we forget who and what we represent.

  • Nadeem on January 16, 2012, 2:08 GMT

    First of all test cricket is dead. T2020 is future of cricket and ODI will remain alive as long as different teams win the worldcup every time. No need to panic and blame BCCI for defeats, it's all about the current state of cricket. In 2003-4 england was the most boring team in world and today they are #1 . It does not mean they are enteraining now, it means that no other team has any interest left in test cricket. firt it was india, now england and in two years it will be SA. Why to worry test cricket is boring and has no future. The day current legendary test cricketing batsmen retire the day test cricket will die too. I believe that T2020 is future of cricket where players don't waste time and people get entertainment. Just three months and IPL will be started and no body will remember this series. Let it go guys.

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 1:57 GMT

    cont'd - india's pluses. tons of talent and experience in england,australia and south africa among the batsmen. tendulkar has looked good most of the time.his batting is top quality against seam bowling.he is still the top scorer for india in this series. dravid is very solid. kohli looked technically very good at perth and seems to be improving. the others haven't performed,which makes tendulkar and dravid targets that the other side can focus on. laxman is great.he looked set once or twice and got out.unfortunately he has not been able to sort out his problems.there is only one test left in australia.time is running out.

  • AnanthaP on January 16, 2012, 1:55 GMT

    In TV, one can't see the state of the pitch, atmosphere etc. Everything is cleaned up for presentation. So the audience really "think" that all grounds and pitches are equal.

    Also in IPL, they shorten the boundary. This is again not visible on TV.

    Then the decision reviews and bowlers' analysis. It shows only the batting end - last 5 yards where the ball pitches.

    So Indian audiences dont know that they are being fed sanitised sops.

    Then the journalists. Recently I came across and article by a senior editor of a famous online portal in a fortnightly magazine's annual issue.

    It was full of whines and generalisations. No word on hard facts. No word on comparing ourselves with other countries. The comparison is only with our expectations - however unreal they may be.

    OK

  • Dipankar Sen on January 16, 2012, 1:53 GMT

    Adi's comments are rather disappointing.There are a handful of fanatical supporters both sides of the border but there are many who really appreciate the good cricket played by both India & Pakistan,and feel saddened when they don't do well i.e. when not playing each other.In fact while I write this,it seems now that India's fortunate(so many dropped chances of Sachin,umpiring reprieve too) victory over Pakistan in the World Cup semifinal was a 'curse' in disguise because our players have apparently lost their hunger to excel in Test cricket against top opposition IPL is also definitely at fault as the urge to perform in Test cricket seems to have vanished from our cricketers what with the easy money available through IPL. Wish Pakistan all the very best against England.The team seems to be in very capable hands of the two senior,level-headed professionals-Misbah-Ul-Haq and Younis Khan

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    a big difference between india,england and australia is the consistency of the seam bowling. on fast and seaming pitches, a bowler must be able to focus and execute on each ball,unerringly pitching it at full length around off stump.he needs to be able to move the ball both ways. indian bowlers need to be very aggressive and skillful,constantly ttying to build pressure,trying to take a wicket and giving away no run. he must be good at taking sharp return catches. when the batsman attacks, he must be resilient and counter attack.

    any player-bowler,batsman or fielder whose body language is negative in a difficult situation must be closely monitored.it is an indication of lack of character and the player should be dropped if there is another with a better attitude.restricting the other side to 500 instead of 600 or 700 may make a big difference to team morale and the outcome.

  • Anil on January 16, 2012, 1:44 GMT

    Most of us Indian fans are disheartened by these defeats. May be it is a grave mistake to enlist 11 men to bring glory, all the time, for a Nation of 1.1+ billion people. Following World Cup, they are emotionally and physically drained, and the opposition has gone about studiously destroying them. Let's be proud of their achievements, and send some of them to retirement. May be the biggest mistake in post world cup era has been hiring foreign coaches; these guys need their space, talk trash, and go after the Aussies and the British. Having foreign coaches makes them sterile, they have to put on unwanted gentlemanly behaviors. They should have had Indian coaches, it may have helped them psychologically.

  • mike miller on January 16, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    Not the first time nor the last, I suspect, that India have capitulated on foreign soil. It's sad for Indian cricket that they could not compete even with a relatively weak Aussie team.

    However, with all home tests for the next two years, Sachin's 100th on the horizon and the IPL starting soon, all will be forgotten and forgiven. That's the problem!

  • Dravid_Gravitas on January 16, 2012, 1:40 GMT

    Dhoni is no test match material and he isn't captaincy material either. He shouldn't be playing test matches in the first place and, lo and behold, he becomes our Captain. Ridiculous! Send him, Vinay Kumar and Gambhir home. That's 3 vacant spots right away. Dinesh Karthik, Irfan and Rohit in. Simple solution. Send Sehwag home as well if need be. Try Rahane there. Rahane and Sachin should open. Sachin can't keep sitting in his chair at no.4. He needs to raise his hand and step up when the team faces new challenges. Beggars belief that a person who doesn't forget the least of opportunities to announce that he is playing for the country and it gives him great pleasure in doing that isn't prepared to stand up and be counted when the team needs him to go out of his way. Well, even Dinesh Karthik can open if needed. That's all. No need to panick. Dravid or VVS should be the Captain for the time-being until we groome somebody for the job over the next 18 months.

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 1:36 GMT

    (cont'd). indian players are either highly prone to poking outside off stump, or occasionally prone(after playing 50 to 100 balls). other indian batsmen get trapped by the occasional inswinger. they either are left guessing because it is mixed with outswingers and leave a gap between bat and pad, or play across the line with a turned bat.the ball sneaks through or strikes a pad in front of the stumps. again the bowler bowls these with pace on a fast wicket.

    from no.1 to 10. indian batsmen need to be able to be prepared to handle high quality seam bowling,on fast pitches that favor australia and england. it will take talent,skill,temperament, a lot of hard work and time. indian openers and top order bats in particular need to be assessed and selected on the basis of their technical solidness overseas at the current time-in australia,england and south africa, and against the best seam bowling.

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 1:28 GMT

    the problems with india's test side, and some pluses

    the problems: the pitches in england, australia and south africa are tailored for the home team's seam bowlers. they analyze each indian batsman(even a tail ender), and his strengths and weaknesses in depth. they bowl mostly full length deliveries around the off stump, swinging the ball away into the slips. occasionally, they bring the ball back into the batsman. when they see a weakness in playing short balls, they dig the ball short and into the body with a forward short leg in place. they bowl with extra pace at times,consistently on length and swinging the ball late. the indian batsmen perish to the bowling for many reasons: they play at balls outside or above off stump,nicking it behind. if they middle the ball,in the best case scenario it will just roll to cover along the ground. some of them turn the face of the bat giving the bowler a good chance of finding the edge with a little bit of swing(cont'd)

  • Ashish on January 16, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    It was a good reality check for Indian Team, Selectors and the BCCI. Our Indian Team and selectors believe that because our batting line up is best on paper - we don't have to do much and they will simply go out and make 500+ runs everytime. They are forgetting that Talent doesn't mean anything unless you back it up with hardwork and effort to improve it further, which our indian players have no idea about. They are more busy shopping, travelling around and dinning out instead of spending time in the nets and work on their weaknesses. We need some new faces who are willing to work hard and prepare for big occasions.

  • Dipankar Sen on January 16, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    The decision to play 4 seamers that too to play an absolutely ineffectual Vinay Kumar in place of Ashwin at Perth was staggeringly stupid and ridiculous on the part of Dhoni and the Indian 'think-tank'.If at all,the left arm spinner Pragyan Ojha could've been included to add variety to our bowling. Rohit Sharma could easily have been drafted in at Perth so as to acquire Test match induction in place of the cavalier Sehwag.Don't know what purpose there is of maintaining the utterly useless Duncan Fletcher as coach (whose track record altogether against Australia is simply pathetic)at a hefty salary.

  • observer on January 16, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    many, or at least some of team india's problems can be fixed.

  • anonaid on January 16, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    I am a pakistani fan. To be honest, I enjoyed watching india lose against england in the summers. Was happy at first to see india lose here as well. But now even someone like me feels its too much. Really feel for the indian fans and would definitely want india to win the next match. The comment by @longmemory is spot on.

  • Sudhakar on January 16, 2012, 1:00 GMT

    I think there needs to be an IPL Test Championship also not just T20. That will help Indian team and BCCI a lot. IPL T20 54 days long and IPL Tests 311 days long. Rest days, Indian players should be allowed to play International Cricket.

  • Anonymous on January 16, 2012, 0:58 GMT

    they should play irfan pathan every odi now

  • ken on January 16, 2012, 0:58 GMT

    I have seen lots of criticism about the older players after the loss both in Australia. As Dhoni puts " we need to remember their contribution to our country and cricket" We should not be too harsh on them when they are unable to contribute. There is lot of appreciation to Warner that he is a great player. Look at the innings that he played in the two previous tests. He made 37, 5 and 8. Finally he made 180. What about Clarke? He made more than 300 and what about the Perth test? Same applies to Ponting. So let us not be too harsh which implies that we are ungrateful. I am sure the older guys might have planned to retire soon after this test as their intention was to win the series in Australia. Hence I hope that all fans both in India and abroad will be kind enough to respect the players and let them to leave the cricket in a graceful manner. Let us not forget that we are Indians and we have the culture of respecting everyone.

  • KC on January 16, 2012, 0:40 GMT

    Winning the world cup was the apex of achievement for the Indian team. The win left them satiated , and rightly so. Unfortunately, there was no time given by BCCI to celebrate the win, whet the appetite for winning and hunger for more. The team was tired and is now just going through the motions with no stomach for a fight anymore. Witness how players broke down in Eng even after minor injuriries (harbhajan for eg.). The body cannot play if the mind does not want to. Remember, this is the same team which played SA in SA, in fast pitches, against a superior attack and did not back down. The players have the ability and the technique but the heart is not in it anymore.

  • Nick on January 16, 2012, 0:22 GMT

    I don't think our new youngsters are ready, I mean we have had countless cricketers that were tagged for greatness and how many of them leaved up to their debuts. Rahane has barely played a few Tests, Rohit Sharma after 75 ODI is still averaging 25. So they'll be even worst at Test level. But it is time Laxman needs to go and maybe Dravid also. He's being bowled too often.

  • Penny4Them on January 16, 2012, 0:03 GMT

    So disappointing this test series, we should'v e played 5 tests v NZ, it would've been more of a contest.

    For all the hot air coming out of the Indian camp before the series, show's how soft they are when things don't go their way.

    I think Warner summed it up nicely in his interview after day 1.

  • Aman on January 15, 2012, 23:58 GMT

    Well, atleast bcci thinks all will be forgotten soon. We have a long schedule of games in sub-continent.Imagine india beating pak in asia cup final that is coming up. Its really a sad story of our sports. When bureaucrats are sitting on high positions of bcci, there is little to expect. Saw rajiv shukla yesterday on tv saying that sky would not fall if india loose against eng and aussies. Such idiots dont know what is diff between loosing and being demolished contniously. If indian fans stop caring for ipl that will shake few things up. Sad sad day for indian cricket.

  • Sanjay on January 15, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    Samir a nice piece. Must be hard for Indian fans to stomach. Longmemory you are on the money with your assessment. My only explanation for Mr Srinivasan's comment is that it must be cement season in India.

  • Ravi on January 15, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    Why nobody is talking about Sehwag? The defeats defenitely hurt but not as much as the manner of defeats without any resistance. The main reason was that we never got even a half decent start in any matches. Just look at Sehwag's overseas record for past 2 years. Bowlers have figured him out. It is time we try to build a sober opening pair instead of counting on that one 'once in a bluemoon' innings coming from Sehwag

  • Abdullah Shaikh on January 15, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    @ Rams .. i agree with you. The IPL stucture is too long. after the previous IPL many players chose to rest instead of going to the WI series. All the news paper headlines were sceaming " its official now, IPL more important that Test Cricket". The present Australian Big Bash is an 18 matches event with a few rest days in between. Also i agree about scrapping of Champions League. It is absolutely nonesense. In the present world we are already having a lot of Cricket. We dont need the champions league. The BCCI should concentrate on quality instead of making money. Regarding crowded calender, i dont think these bruises will be healed so easily. This is the worst humiliation that i can think of.

  • Vikram on January 15, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    stop patronizing IPL,, that would be a slap in the face to the BCCI. Am sure once the IPL kicks off this April, fans would be rooting for their fav teams.BCCI can prioritize test cricket only if IPL and the meaningless ODI series strewn in ( like the Asia Cup soon after the Oz tour in which the flat track bullies would fire again and take India to victory ) are ignored by the public.

  • ArvindR on January 15, 2012, 22:32 GMT

    Fancy packaging, zero substance: true for this article and true for the Indian team.

  • Jaffar on January 15, 2012, 22:31 GMT

    Mr Samir your article is great.. Every Cricketing Nation knows that PAKISTAN gifted the World cup to India So I have one Solution for Indian team " Indian Team can unbeaten If BCCI ( BCCI is rich and power full cricket board ) buy all the International Cricket teams and bring the India to play against home team on deadly and flat wickets or Bane completely Indian team to play cricket overseas. This way Indian team will remain unbeaten.. Very disappointing performance by the world Champion!!!!

  • SL Fan on January 15, 2012, 22:26 GMT

    Not only the BCCI has destroyed its own test cricket by sheer greed (IPL and continues meaningless cricket), BCCI also has destroyed Sri Lankan cricket by luring its stars for the stupid IPL. Malinga doesn't want to play test cricket. Dilshan, Sanga & Mehala can't play longer innings any more.

  • Rams on January 15, 2012, 22:18 GMT

    Solutions (never gonna happen by the way) 1. Have a structured Home Cricket season October - April with 2 series made up of a 3 test series and a 4 test series. + max 3 ODIs per series. 2. Have a core of cities were Test Cricket is played every year. ie: Calcutta, Mumbai, Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi. The Eden Garden Test should be an event like the Lords test or the MCG Boxing day test. 3. Scrap the Champions League (a pointless means by which the IPL teams generalte more revenue and air time) 4. Restructure the IPL: - It should be 1 month long - Played at the end of India's home season (April) - Get rid of the Auction (its vulgar) - Contracted Indian Players should be rested from the IPL not International Cricket (eg Dhoni, Tendulkar etc last West Indies Tour) - Reduce IPL pay ad increase Test Cricket Pay to maintain the stature of test cricket and reward hard work. 5. Restructure the BCCI with people who have played the game in the last 10 years eg. Ganguly, Kumble.

  • Raj on January 15, 2012, 22:18 GMT

    This is a wonderful opportunity for the selectors to get rid of the old from the team and bring in youth. They already managed to get rid of Harbhajan with out any one complaining. Now it is the turn of Laxman and Dravid. Bring in Rohit Sharma and Pujara.

  • Rams on January 15, 2012, 22:07 GMT

    Problems: 1. India prioritise one day cricket over tests and have done for last 5 years. 2. India dont have a structured cricket calender like most other countries. 3. The BCCI's decisions are based on making money. 4. India play too much cricket. 5. The Golden generation of batsmen are nearing the end of their fantastic careers. 6. The IPL (see problems 1-4) 7. The Voice of Indian Cricket (Shastri & Gavaskar) are employed by the BCCI. 8. Historically Indian fans have a greater interest in the individual player and stats rather than the performance of the team.

    See next post for solutions.................

  • S.Jagernath on January 15, 2012, 21:58 GMT

    India banked on Dravid,Tendulkar & Laxman to provide runs one more time as they did during their careers

  • Cynic on January 15, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    Meanwhile in India..... The BCCI are laughing at the rest of the cricketing boards. "You can win the match but we have all the Money Muahhaha"

  • Abdullah Shaikh on January 15, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    It is very sad that in the greatness of SRT, Dravid & VVS we have forgotten the next generation heroes like A.Rahane & R.Sharma. Our Selectors think that these legendary players will be as good for ever. somebody please tell them, had this been the case the Don would be still playing. But he decided to walk away when the time was right. Even our own Sunny Gavasker did the smart thing by retiring at the right time (he was on peak). But i think SRT, Laxman & Dravid have missed the bus. If they continue like this apart from our national pride they may even loose the chance of a farewell match. (that is if they have to be dropped). When will our selectors stop living in past glory, when will they look to the present and plan the future. Alteast now they shuold undertand from the performance of Virat Kohli that sports is primarily meant for youth, experiance will help to a degree beyond that it will spoil the coffee. Now We should make a Senior Citizens team.

  • Shady Iyegar on January 15, 2012, 21:43 GMT

    The picture of Sachin with the caption on capitulation is a tad unfair. He's the only one who seems to have performed well on tour (perhaps not on par with his own standards, but good nonetheless).

    All this talk of replacing seniors seems bizarre, given that they seem to be the only ones performing (Dravid in England and Sachin here). Replacing them with what? The riff-raff who play 20 overs?

  • anuAddict on January 15, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    The defeats are so comprehensive and in both overseas tours that mattered, that for me winning all home series until India wins next major overseas tour are useless. Talks of green pitch in India, IPL, preparation etc are all useless. There is just one factor that's vanished since world cup- fight in stomach. In such situations, unfortunately only thing that works is drastic cull with criteria not based on skills/technique/records but on purely unrelenting burning desire to succeed and pride. Who's listening by the way? BCCI? Establishment is run by people who have never experienced what pride means in competitive sport. Fans, time to detach passion from game I am afraid.

  • Abdullah Shaikh on January 15, 2012, 21:38 GMT

    Ajinkya Rahane is already 24+ yrs old. his first class average is 68 which is far greater than any other indian batsmen. Even Rohit Sharma is now 24+ yrs old. his first class average is 63 which is so close to Ajinkya Rahane. And what is this story about Ishant Sharma bowling well/with heart, without any luck. like Yadav you will find other bowlers who can be better. In any case we had Irfan Pathan who has recovered from injury and discovered his swing. He is experienced in these conditions. He is also a strong fighter. Had the selectors been brave and given the West indies series in WI and in India to youngster we would have been in a poslition to pick the youngsters. but the oldest players played in these series. It would have been better to loose with youngsters instead of loosing like this.

  • Anonymous on January 15, 2012, 21:27 GMT

    Sorry for indian fans, but this indian team is only good for playing IPL, why u indian fans wasting time in watching them playing test matches, this team is as good as Bangladesh, look at the teams free from IPL influence, they re-build quickly, e.g. Pakistan after all those troubles they r faced last year, they r looked in a good shape and BCCI not allowed their crickteres to play IPL, thanks to BCCI for helping Pakistan to re-build their team, every indian player had only one thing in mind if i got un fit at these foreign tours i miss the IPL, so they cannot push themselves to limits, and another good that BCCI does to them, made such a wonderful pitches in IPL and other less important international matches, the batsman with the worst foot works looks like Don Bradman, and on these performances they got selected for the national team, e.g. Virender Sehwag, in India he is a threat on batsman friendly pitches, but in Austalia he played like a school boy.

  • Gokul on January 15, 2012, 21:22 GMT

    The greatest teams and players are remembered solely for how they have fared in crickets toughest format, test cricket. Perhaps other formats will somewhat boost this but by no means forms a majority memory. BCCI is similar to politics in india at the moment; corrupt. Corrupt in the sense that its true duty is to deliver indian cricket to the rest of the world in all its beauty. I admit i was an avid england fan before the indians toured here in 2007 and in the years since (and after much greater historical research on my part) never have i seen a more beautiful set of batters. Such grace cannot be found in any other country ever. And yet i share the pain of a billion indians that our glorious form of the game is being let down by a board more interested in money. England and australia play almost 50% less cricket than india and yet we know who the better teams. Both boards allow there players to play for foreign clubs for development. But more games equals more cash. True Sadness.

  • Adi on January 15, 2012, 21:17 GMT

    First time is my life i am celebrating Indian defet with GREAT pleasure ...........why cuze over the last few years i have seen these little minded indian showing up Pakistan matches to support VOCALLY opposition .. so all Pakistan should CELEBRATE

  • Raj Prasad on January 15, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    I am a cricket (play) enthiusiast, pay money to buy the Channel and spend long hours in night to warch the Indian Test series; now i am so disappointed by the consistent defeats of Indian players in England and Australia that i am cancelling my subscription and instead utilising my time to sleep well in the night.It may not be not the right "sportsman spirit" but i hate to read("India being mauled by, England and Autralia in cricket Tests).Its bit appalling to watch Indian players peformimg so poorly against the overseas fast bowlers.Enough is enough. Raj, Victoria.

  • D BHATTACHARYA on January 15, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    Whenever country of 1 billion have any degree of sustained success in only a single sport ( Not counting exploits in mixed doubles tennis), and that too after nearly 60 years of playing it, you are asking for heartbreak whenever there is any setback in that ONE sport. For India, the slip from no 1 in Test ranking ( which IMO was not entirely reflective of the teams quality in the first place) has turned into a spiralling freefall into the abyss of mediocrity. How is the heartbroken Indian fan going to react? India is going through an upheaval with the previously unquestionable authority of the elected parliamentarians being challenged, ridiculed by civilians. The common Indian is starting to sit up and take notice.The brazen greed and short sightedness of the BCCI that earned over 300 million USD in profits last year may well be the last straw. Low test attendances in India are now common; this may put Indians off cricket all together. Is that neccessarily a bad thing? Dont think so

  • Azfae on January 15, 2012, 20:42 GMT

    Samir, the diehard Indian Cricket fan is so numbed by this free-fall in the last 6 months that he is unable to comprehend what is happening....I have been following Cricket for the last 30 years, I can't remember India losing in 2 and half days....it may have happened but I can't recall a single instance. Not even the 80's and 90's teams who habitually used to lose badly overseas. One thing is very clear....Test Cricket is no longer the priority with the Board or the players and the results reflect that....it seems the only unhappy party in this scenario is the Indian Cricket Fan...the other parties involved, the Board & the players are happy with the moolah they are making.....

  • Ajit Parmar on January 15, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    Stop watching Indian Cricket Matches in the park / at home TV. Stop giving any sponsership to these players. Too much money no pride for country, just money making machine.

  • Jay on January 15, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    First of all I would like to remind many posters here that the IPL is NOT the main reason for India's downfall as a test nation. Even before the temptation of T20 India have been a poor overseas team. The IPL certainly could be attributed to Indian youngsters becoming fascinated with hitting the ball into the stands. The patience to play long innings has definitely vanished with the advent of T20 cricket. On the same note, India have never been a good traveling team. However, the difference before was that India would at least win or draw a game or two on tour. Since the English tour, India have only looked like losing everything. The BCCI are the main culprits. This is what happens when we the PEOPLE allow politicians to run things we adore most. The BCCI is an extension of Indian political bureaucracy. They are only after money. When have they EVER cared about US, the people ? now they are bent in destroying the ONE thing that united Indians - Indian cricket. Sad times ahead.

  • Ashish Bhatia on January 15, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    The truth is that IPL is messing the players, in an IPL game they just bowl 4 overs hit a few overs and earn millions....but in a test match they run like donkeys for hours bowling 40 overs per game and bat for days and get pennies and playing for the country is no more an honour for them...and BCCI....really sad

  • Mushir Ahmed Basheer on January 15, 2012, 20:15 GMT

    IPL was created for indians to perform better, they won the odi.. but forget that cricket is playing test matches as well... I am really down..

  • Deenesh on January 15, 2012, 20:13 GMT

    I was really interested in reading what i thought this article was about, however my BSc is not enuff for me to understand half of wat ur saying. I shudve studied english :/ Ease up on the vocab, U dont have to impress the reader, jus impart a message. Dont take my criticism the wrong way please. Regards

  • Stef on January 15, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    IPL, BCCI (AKA ICC) are all part of the problem. What needs to be realised is that cricket is an amazing game that has never needed to be changed. DRS, extra powerful bats etc have done nothing for the sport, nor has 20/20. Look at 1981, look at the West Indies, Greenidge, Richard, Holding, Roberts, Garner and co. The test cricket they played back then was so much more appealing than any 20/20. My point, with all this money the BCCI is making, put it back into the game, better pitches, maybe have some grounds like Australian wickets, a mix like they do in Australia. The batsman will become better with bounce and pace, become more rounded and it will give encouragement for the young quicks. The comments that every one will be happy... there is something called national pride and there is something called a bank balance, what's more important.

  • Dj on January 15, 2012, 20:10 GMT

    Four words should suffice: GREEN PITCHES AT HOME

    Maybe not everywhere, but at least in two or three test venues. Places where first class matches will be played on a regular basis and youngsters will be exposed to the level of bounce and spring that the WACA or Cape Town has. BCCI surely has the financial resources, and it is hard to imagine in this day and age that tailor made pitches with some grass on them cannot be provided.

  • James Bond on January 15, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    The world cup was great. However, The series in England and Australia meant so much more to me. Waking up at 3 Am only to watch India play their poorest cricket I have ever seen. I mean a country like India where Cricket is almost a religion. How can their players not be able to Bat through a single day?

    I agree with " LongMemory" and the "Anonymous". I will never be able to forget this. This performance has totally turned me off from watching the IPL. The whole thing is one BIG DISGRACE.

  • Zlato Veskanan on January 15, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    Samir, your article was very difficult to read... maybe you needed to reach a word limit, I don't know... but sentences like, "overly-optimistic piece of blogging tomfoolery remains stillborn.." was excessive....

    being succint is the difference between good writers and writers I don't waste my time reading....

  • Anonymous on January 15, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Longmemory, the way you put this is absolutely true. The problem is in how we perceive success. Test match is one of the most difficult sport around. Winning a test match takes a lot of skill. Winning it in foreign conditions take skill and planning. Winning a test series in foreign condition is supremacy of a countries cricketing structure, talent, leadership, administration, coaching, planning over the home country. It's the ultimate prize in sport. It is an ultimate satisfactiion for fans. India cricket continue to fail, no world cup win or ipl moolah can justify it. Most people will move on, but doubt a true test cricket lover will ever recover.

  • glzm0 on January 15, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    start boycotting IPL matches, maybe that will give something the BCCI to think about.

  • Dev on January 15, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    Though I agree with your analysis of 'short term memory, induced by the various frequent cycles of cricket, what you don't consider is that most other cricketers and teams follow a largely similar schedule, but yet it seems like they can go the rigours of team building ( Aus. being a case in point). In my opinion, the main reason for the overseas failure of the team is a sudden disappearance of the unerring self belief, which unfortunately is largely induced by their 'commercial' appeal (which is mostly a result of marketing strategies of corporations)back home. Thus once the environment that induces the self belief is removed, so does the self belief, as it ends up having more of a relationship with the environment than with a 'love of the game'. For that, we fans, must accept blame,for we let the powers that be not enforce the bounds necessary to ensure a true 'cricketing culture' and not this amalgam of commercial interests and self glorification that marks our current situation

  • longmemory on January 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Samir, just before I read your piece I read the one with the reactions of many of the high and mighty in India to the ongoing disaster in Oz. Of all their comments the one that rung most true was that of N. Srinivasan - head honcho of both the BCCI and the Chennai Super Kings (that no one sees a problem there is itself a sign of the magnitude of the problems we face). "Don't worry, home victories are right around the corner, all this will be forgotten and everyone will be happy very soon." Mr Srinivasan has a surer feel for the pulse of cricket in India than anybody else. As India hurtled to defeat on the morning of the 3rd day (!?!) at Perth Shastri opined that Virat should focus on getting his hundred. Somewhere between the comments of Srinivasan and Shastri lies the reality of Indian cricket. And the sooner we accept that fact the less the grief we'll put ourselves through.

  • daud on January 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    BCCI got only aim..that if you got money and you can buy overseas players in ipl...that is success for them...even indians consider the same...buying south african, australian and english players remains the only priority...it makes them happy that they are the bosses of those players...so whether india lose 4-0, when the ipl starts in april, every thing shall be forgotton!!!

  • Aman on January 15, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    After the drubbing in England, India came home and pumelled England in ODI's and then a hapless WI in the tests. And the Indian cricket management started tooting its horns of supremacy again. I am sure this is going to be same story even after the fiasco in Australia. Sadly the delusion comes free and BCCI seems to be having ton of it.

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  • Aman on January 15, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    After the drubbing in England, India came home and pumelled England in ODI's and then a hapless WI in the tests. And the Indian cricket management started tooting its horns of supremacy again. I am sure this is going to be same story even after the fiasco in Australia. Sadly the delusion comes free and BCCI seems to be having ton of it.

  • daud on January 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    BCCI got only aim..that if you got money and you can buy overseas players in ipl...that is success for them...even indians consider the same...buying south african, australian and english players remains the only priority...it makes them happy that they are the bosses of those players...so whether india lose 4-0, when the ipl starts in april, every thing shall be forgotton!!!

  • longmemory on January 15, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Samir, just before I read your piece I read the one with the reactions of many of the high and mighty in India to the ongoing disaster in Oz. Of all their comments the one that rung most true was that of N. Srinivasan - head honcho of both the BCCI and the Chennai Super Kings (that no one sees a problem there is itself a sign of the magnitude of the problems we face). "Don't worry, home victories are right around the corner, all this will be forgotten and everyone will be happy very soon." Mr Srinivasan has a surer feel for the pulse of cricket in India than anybody else. As India hurtled to defeat on the morning of the 3rd day (!?!) at Perth Shastri opined that Virat should focus on getting his hundred. Somewhere between the comments of Srinivasan and Shastri lies the reality of Indian cricket. And the sooner we accept that fact the less the grief we'll put ourselves through.

  • Dev on January 15, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    Though I agree with your analysis of 'short term memory, induced by the various frequent cycles of cricket, what you don't consider is that most other cricketers and teams follow a largely similar schedule, but yet it seems like they can go the rigours of team building ( Aus. being a case in point). In my opinion, the main reason for the overseas failure of the team is a sudden disappearance of the unerring self belief, which unfortunately is largely induced by their 'commercial' appeal (which is mostly a result of marketing strategies of corporations)back home. Thus once the environment that induces the self belief is removed, so does the self belief, as it ends up having more of a relationship with the environment than with a 'love of the game'. For that, we fans, must accept blame,for we let the powers that be not enforce the bounds necessary to ensure a true 'cricketing culture' and not this amalgam of commercial interests and self glorification that marks our current situation

  • glzm0 on January 15, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    start boycotting IPL matches, maybe that will give something the BCCI to think about.

  • Anonymous on January 15, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Longmemory, the way you put this is absolutely true. The problem is in how we perceive success. Test match is one of the most difficult sport around. Winning a test match takes a lot of skill. Winning it in foreign conditions take skill and planning. Winning a test series in foreign condition is supremacy of a countries cricketing structure, talent, leadership, administration, coaching, planning over the home country. It's the ultimate prize in sport. It is an ultimate satisfactiion for fans. India cricket continue to fail, no world cup win or ipl moolah can justify it. Most people will move on, but doubt a true test cricket lover will ever recover.

  • Zlato Veskanan on January 15, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    Samir, your article was very difficult to read... maybe you needed to reach a word limit, I don't know... but sentences like, "overly-optimistic piece of blogging tomfoolery remains stillborn.." was excessive....

    being succint is the difference between good writers and writers I don't waste my time reading....

  • James Bond on January 15, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    The world cup was great. However, The series in England and Australia meant so much more to me. Waking up at 3 Am only to watch India play their poorest cricket I have ever seen. I mean a country like India where Cricket is almost a religion. How can their players not be able to Bat through a single day?

    I agree with " LongMemory" and the "Anonymous". I will never be able to forget this. This performance has totally turned me off from watching the IPL. The whole thing is one BIG DISGRACE.

  • Dj on January 15, 2012, 20:10 GMT

    Four words should suffice: GREEN PITCHES AT HOME

    Maybe not everywhere, but at least in two or three test venues. Places where first class matches will be played on a regular basis and youngsters will be exposed to the level of bounce and spring that the WACA or Cape Town has. BCCI surely has the financial resources, and it is hard to imagine in this day and age that tailor made pitches with some grass on them cannot be provided.

  • Stef on January 15, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    IPL, BCCI (AKA ICC) are all part of the problem. What needs to be realised is that cricket is an amazing game that has never needed to be changed. DRS, extra powerful bats etc have done nothing for the sport, nor has 20/20. Look at 1981, look at the West Indies, Greenidge, Richard, Holding, Roberts, Garner and co. The test cricket they played back then was so much more appealing than any 20/20. My point, with all this money the BCCI is making, put it back into the game, better pitches, maybe have some grounds like Australian wickets, a mix like they do in Australia. The batsman will become better with bounce and pace, become more rounded and it will give encouragement for the young quicks. The comments that every one will be happy... there is something called national pride and there is something called a bank balance, what's more important.