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CSA-BCCI impasse likely to end

Firdose Moonda and Amol Karhadkar

February 3, 2014

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Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, at the annual conference, Kuala Lumpur, June 26, 2012
If CSA support the ICC revamp, Haroon Lorgat could resume attending ICC meetings and CSA's dealings with BCCI © Getty Images
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Cricket South Africa and BCCI have resumed discussions about a possible patch-up that may result in the former supporting the ICC revamp in exchange of the CSA chief executive Haroon Lorgat being reintegrated into top administration.

If the discussions end positively, then it is possible that not only could CSA vote in favour of the proposed ICC overhaul but also that Lorgat resumes attending ICC meetings and CSA's dealings with their Indian counterpart. More importantly, India and South Africa could be seen in action against each more frequently than over the last few years.

While a South Africa cricket insider claimed that the BCCI had made "an offer" to CSA, a BCCI administrator maintained they haven't "offered anything to anyone" for supporting the Big Three (the boards of India, England and Australia) proposal that is likely to be voted on during a special ICC Board meeting on Dubai over the weekend.

The BCCI insider, on the other hand, conceded that CSA and Lorgat are keen to patch up with the BCCI and have informally approached them. Since the decision on Lorgat is an "ICC resolution", the BCCI "cannot do anything", according to him. Though it couldn't be ascertained independently whether ICC has passed a resolution against Lorgat, his role in former ICC head of legal David Becker's statements during the BCCI-CSA impasse is being probed by an independent ICC panel.

CSA's turnaround in their stance is significant since they were the first full member to oppose the Big Three proposal that would alter the dynamics of international cricket's governance. CSA, in a statement ahead of the January 28 ICC Board meeting, had appealed to the ICC president Alan Isaac to withdraw the proposal.

In the course of informal discussions, CSA and BCCI are believed to be discussing more bilateral series. The CSA chief executive's appointment and the allegedly unilateral announcement of the itinerary for India's tour to South Africa led to the relations between the two boards reaching an all-time low. The BCCI agreed for a curtailed tour only after CSA withdrew Lorgat from all the ICC and BCCI-related matters.

This breakdown in relations between the BCCI and CSA was followed by the Big Three leaving CSA in the dark about the proposed revamp as well as the sideline meetings around the ICC Board meeting in Dubai last week.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent. Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by sysubrceq0 on (February 4, 2014, 19:58 GMT)

Sri Lnaka is a most unthankful country, India played countless matches from past 5 years to help SLCB from bankrupt in return India always get hate from SLCB, Ex- SL players and Current SL players and SL fans. from Sub-continent the best teams are IND > PAK > SL > BCB.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 17:46 GMT)

With SA falling in line and India is in a position to ignore SL and PCB. But I believe BCCI will work out a deal with SLC also just to be safer. While I am an Indian and absolutely against this proposal, I feel sorry for Pak and hope they do vote in favor. Ppl who think the Big 3 alone will have any series against Pak are mistaken. BCCI will simply tell other boards to stop playing with Pak or say bye bye to Indian tours and everyone will fall in line just like now.

Inspite of their pathetic batting, Pak does decently due to some decent bowling attack. I wish they do vote in favor so that atleast they can play cricket. I do like to see talented bowlers as much as I like to see our talented batsmen.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 14:50 GMT)

South Africa is the one which will lose most if they don't join the big three.Lorgat is NOT at all the issue. IThat is a non-issue, but can be used as a face to hide behind their dire need for money. The money they can gain from Champions' Trophy; and IPLs when they need to be shifted, is so huge that there is no way they can ignore it. Sri Lanka keeps on forgetting the number of times BCCI had lent a helping hand to financially survive -- to such an extent, every one started getting tired of India-Sri Lanka contests!

Playing in one's own country against good teams is what brings in most revenue. Pakistan's domestic situation, (and the Sri Lankan Team's shooting episode) depry them of that benefit. Quite unfortunately, I would say. Their good cricketers need more forums to display their talents. For lack of visits, Pak will not be affected in any significant way if the proposal is accepted or rejected. Their helplessness can be used to play a "an ethical stand on a high moral ground"

Posted by Manoj1234 on (February 4, 2014, 11:55 GMT)

@night_fury - Well Said. I think all this India bashing that is going on doesn't seem to be based on facts and reasoning. We are the WC champs. Also all those calling us Flat track bullies, its still a equal opportunity wicket. How come they lose so badly? Is it a lack of talent?

Posted by Night_Fury on (February 4, 2014, 10:42 GMT)

To all those who think that Cricket will get killed, i have only one question. Do you think BCCI will kill gold laying goose to be murdered. Absolutely No. Infact by allocating or getting more fund in India, it will only help in developing game in India. To all PAK and SL fans, i know you guys just want to bash and crib about India and Indian cricket team, but this same team won WC and Champions Trophy as well, one in Indian sub-continent beating Pak in Semis and SL in Finals, and the other in England beating all the teams hands down. Every good team has ups and downs but i only see down and down for SL and PAK. :)). Pak batting is sub-standard and SL too much dependent on sanga and jaya. Dont understand how thay all boast so much,

Posted by reality_check on (February 4, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

@CricIndia208

Since India is behind Pakistan in all time head-to-head in tests and ODI's, India will forever stay behind Pakistan if India takes your advise and decides never to play Pakistan in future.

Thumping the chest now won't change this little fact.

Posted by loonykiwirocker on (February 4, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

@humi_cric - love your reply mate. Excellent response to an embarrassing post from CricIndia208.

Posted by srinideva on (February 4, 2014, 9:31 GMT)

@humi_cric & Cric_Lover_PAKI , both of you living in the past glorious days. Look at the Pak test team. they were beaten by ZIM. People love to watch pak play cricket because of their pathetic show in the test matches are more interesting. because you never what to expect from them. Even SL beat Pakistan in UAE. Ind never lost a match against Pak in WC. where it matters most Ind always dominated the Pakistan team. India can live without Pak. We don`t want them IPL too..Have a great time.

Posted by kamran85 on (February 4, 2014, 9:23 GMT)

@cricindia208 It looks funny comment. Yes india should not play against Pak because they lose last series played after too much time. This type of losing not good for india as they mostly win in India but lost against Pak in india.

Posted by KhilenNaidoo on (February 4, 2014, 9:03 GMT)

CricIndia208

Your thoughts are not your own and are those of your predecessors. You are a victim of manipulation and sadly in India cricket (Srinivasen) defines the way you think. When you learn to think for yourself and you are able to separate politics between countries for the benefit of the game, please post something. Other than that stay a loyal fan, because in the end that's all you will be a blind brainwashed fan of India. It is the IPL and its money that brings international players to India, providing more exposure to Indian players but even with that, Indian players are nothing but "Flat track bullies." Test cricket is the ultimate challenge of cricket, and the 2 best teams going forward will always be Australia, South Africa with India / England fighting for third. Unless the spineless ICC gives into a draft proposal, then we will have many changes to favour India. Indian fans will always love a cheap victory on a "Flat boring track".

Posted by Test_Fanatic on (February 4, 2014, 8:25 GMT)

The politicking in cricket must end. Why must nation playing against nation be negotiated over petty indifferences? This isn't world war or a quest for world domination, it is cricket! Or am I missing something here?

Posted by Cric_Lover_PAKI on (February 4, 2014, 8:25 GMT)

@CricIndia208 you were born late i think, check statistics if history is written some where

Posted by hellothereeveryone on (February 4, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

Let cricket be a game and not business. Please let this gentlemans game be played in a way that supports good cricket and let all countries display their best talent. BCCI attempt to isolate PCB, CSA SLC is not good for the game as it will deprive the world of seeing some of the most exciting players in the game today. If you need an example just compare the recent India-SA series and Pakistan-SA series and you will find out which series produced more competitive and interesting cricket. I hope ICC makes a decision in the interest of the game!

Posted by SMASH70s on (February 4, 2014, 8:16 GMT)

There is a lot to learn from this revamp. England, Australia and India are able to dominate toothless ICC merely because of their financial position and the amount of cricket they produce. ICC is a 'yes master' regulator which obeys to whoever throws most money at it. India has been able to dominate cricket because of its huge population. They are nearly 1.2 billion of them spread across the world. It is a nation obsessed with its cricketers and film actors no matter how bad they perform. Their strength comes from their viewership. Whereas England with a population of 53 million and Australia with a population of 23 million is dominating because of quality of cricket they produce - it is because of the interest these countries develop in cricketing stage. Take for example Ashes which is watched by most cricket lovers irrespective of where they come from. Ashes is not only a series between England and Australia - it is a rivalry played for many years and followed by cricket enthusiast.

Posted by humi_cric on (February 4, 2014, 8:09 GMT)

@CricIndia208, you must be a teen ager or may be you don't have good memory, just read your comments and think what you have written. Big Hug for you from a Pakistani fan, you badly need it.

Posted by Rohit... on (February 4, 2014, 8:02 GMT)

Instead of Big 3, it would have been Powerful 4.... but for 1 person.

Posted by CricIndia208 on (February 4, 2014, 8:01 GMT)

Indian cricket does not need ICC to survive, India has the most exciting talent in the world. Poor teams like Pakistan need to play India to generate some interest in the sport in their country. India are the World Champions and the holders of the Champions Trophy. Pakistan have won nothing and mostly do not go beyond the first round in the ICC tournaments. India does not need Pakistan, but Pakistan needs India. The Indian government should not allow the Indian team to play Pakistan even if BCCI wants it.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 7:53 GMT)

i am still of the view that these proposal will be approved with all 10 member voting for it. pcb can be managed and csa also. slc is also struggling. they will not stand on their stance for longer.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 7:49 GMT)

...cont "CSA vehemently denies any notion of deals being made with any other party. On the contrary we will seek to uphold good governance and our professional approach to find solutions to the current proposals being considered by all the Member Boards.

"We have carefully considered the proposals and we have declared that we will engage further with the ICC and other Members to try and reach any consensus ahead of Saturday's ICC Board meeting and that position still stands," explained Nenzani.

"Naturally we want good relations with the ICC and all its Members, especially India with whom we have always enjoyed a special relationship, but we will exercise our responsibilities with due care, skill and integrity and we will uphold the principles of good governance," concluded Nenzani.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 7:46 GMT)

Pakistani team has been surviving and produce quality cricketers for last 4 years without international cricket at home, Its a nation of 20 million people big enough to generate its own revenue, Even if Pakistan is isolated it does not effect them, on the other hand if Southafrica, Srilanka are on there side and India very poor team that can only play in India no one from Australia and England would want to play with them, end result would be no cricket for India, All nation are equal no Big no small cricket should not run on the basis of dictator ship in which only one country rule and other follow its order, Pakistan and Southafrica will soon start Mandela Jina Bilatral series just like Ashes and they would also Play with Srilanka in future, so don't worry about the revenue because Pakistan has the most exciting talent that would want to see, even Indian fans are crazy to see pakistani players in India, but i assure you that Pakistan would not play with India in near future.

Posted by Vees1000 on (February 4, 2014, 7:42 GMT)

So...CSA has publicly dismissed this story in the SA media. Wonder what's going on?

Posted by Fernando248 on (February 4, 2014, 7:28 GMT)

Game of Thrones in full swing :)

Posted by kc69 on (February 4, 2014, 7:24 GMT)

I guess PCB will suffer ultimately as SLC will change sides now which they are good at.This game of revamping ICC looks more interesting than cricket itself.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 7:22 GMT)

CRICKET SOUTH AFRICA (CSA) would like to dismiss a report on the Cricinfo website that suggests that CSA is in the process of concluding a deal with the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) that will see, amongst other things, Chief Executive Haroon Lorgat reintegrated into top administration in exchange for CSA supporting the International Cricket Council (ICC) revamped proposal put forward by the BCCI, Cricket Australia (CA) and the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).

"While we are engaged in discussions with the ICC and other Members, including the BCCI, to find an acceptable way forward, we have not and will not consider deals that compromise our key principles and integrity. This is a difficult time for global cricket and attempts to mislead and create confusion are not welcome," said CSA President, Chris Nenzani.

cont...

Posted by Testcricketistop on (February 4, 2014, 7:08 GMT)

Can anyone explain to me what exactly Lorgat has done that got the BCCI so upset?

Posted by M.Faheem on (February 4, 2014, 6:55 GMT)

By patching up, CSA will have a strong chance to be part of BCCI's cabinet.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 6:54 GMT)

CSA has just released a statement rubbishing this article, there is still hope guys!

Posted by srinideva on (February 4, 2014, 6:49 GMT)

I think CSA made a smart decision. SLC and PCB are going to play against each other in future if they continue their stand on this issue. CSA having 25% share in Champions league. If they oppose the Big 3, they will certainly lose their share to ECB. It`s all money, you can do nothing about it. It`s business world not 1980-90.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 6:40 GMT)

As a great cricket followers,this rewamp going to drown cricket in everywhere,the people of india should also stand for this unlikely decisssion of big 3............otherwise cricket will not remain cricket

Posted by Bishop on (February 4, 2014, 6:28 GMT)

@Bullboy

"Like it or hate it, money attracts talent and enhances a sport."

Precisely, which is why the little countries, and those with struggling cricket setups need *more* resources from the ICC, not less.

Posted by Lalindra2012 on (February 4, 2014, 6:12 GMT)

Take on ICC Revamp

"You see, there is one major difference between the current crisis and a classic case of prisoners' dilemma - the absence of isolation. They have access to one another, hence there is no need to guess, no need for machinations or to betray. This is not necessarily a zero-sum game. The fact is that they can all get what they want if they sit together, discuss their concerns and requirements if they are to cede control, and on what terms. The real discussions ought to be with each other, not with the 'Big Three' or even isolated at home."

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

I FEEL this is going to happen... Big 3 will squeeze/limit ODI and test cricket...and extend their windows .... of T-20 Leagues.. like over 4 months each... and Cricket will go the football way..... Thats where all the administors will align with private investors.. It will no more be passionate cricket without class.... the next generation will relate to it coz thats all they will see.....for us it will be a shame that we let this happen.... As far as Pakistan will be islolated.. that planned started in 2009.. soo its nothing new...

Posted by S.Alis on (February 4, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

I just remembered 2011 WC when i start watching cricket again seriously after like 8 years. And i was looking at the other countries list here on ESPNCricinfo. Videos, News and lots of other stuff. Just to check where is cricket now. Is there any hope for new countries? I was happy for Canada, Ireland, cheered them in matches & i was checking "Cricket in US" video. Posted it on a forum where mostly users were from U.S. Then i looked at Namibia, Nepal, China, Japan news etc, was checking a Pakistani coach teaching Chinese guys how to bowl and their plan to participate in 2020 WC (somehow). So the whole point of telling this here is that i would love to see cricket in the whole world. Not just in 10 countries. And i was thinking what are ICC plans to make it big. And now here we are. This big 3 and that 2 tier system. I'm not sure what is going on anymore. I will probably go back to stop watching cricket. And that's too bad, this time it might happen to lots of other cricket fans as well

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 5:41 GMT)

It seems like the good days of cricket are gone. From the proposed ICC revamp, it seems Pakistan and SL will not feature quite frequent against Big-3. This was such a stupid idea and I wonder, will not help in the promotion of the game especially in other parts of the world. The Big-3 seems so greedy for powers and they are not interested in the promotion of the game. Pakistan use to be a great source of quality players and this is shameful that in the future setups (IPL, BigBash and other tournaments), you will not see these class players. The best example is IPL and just remind ICL few years ago, where Pakistan players were the heros of all franchises. With this new idea, it seems that the cricket will be very localized game and the hate due to the proposed revamp will not be easy to wash out from the hearths of participants.

Posted by stormy16 on (February 4, 2014, 5:29 GMT)

Ok time for PCB and SLC to jump ship too and ensure they get what they can out of this as a coalition of 2 is as good as nothing. No surprises that one of these 3 would eventually either jump or be forced and I can understand CSA's view that this is a way forward for both CSA and BCCI where relationships had reached the destructive levels. This moves is a win for everyone and a way forward for both parties but test cricket as we know it is most probably over. Competition will be money based and we will soon welcome the new number one team in the world - India!

Posted by JUCCric on (February 4, 2014, 5:28 GMT)

At the moment the boards are discussing give and take for their self-interest. The proposal for ICC revamp is discussed no where, all boards are acting for their self interest. ICC is supposed to protect the wider interest of Cricket fraternity which is more than the pitty and greedy interest of cricket administrators. It is the politicians sitting in the boards, rotting and looting the game of cricket. Its time for the former palyer like Allen Border, Sunil Gavasker, Javed Miandad, Ian Bothem, Lara, martin crowe, arjuan ranatunga, zaheer abbas, to come forward and raise their voice in protecting the game of cricket. look how fifa has expanded the game to all continents on the earth. What ICC has done,,, nothing,,,, only they are part of destroying a very beautiful game of cricket and its spirit....??

Posted by loonykiwirocker on (February 4, 2014, 5:20 GMT)

So the first board to oppose the proposal, has now agreed to vote for it. To all the Pak fans trying to take the moral high ground - be prepared for a turnaround from your board soon. All talks of principles will fly out of the window when a "good offer" is given.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 5:19 GMT)

This is disappointing news, as a South African I will be appalled and disillusioned if CSA goes along with the big 3. Bad, bad news for world cricket when self interests rule over what is right. CSA must not abandon principles and self respect for mere money, they should stick with SL and Pak. Cricket was a happier place when it was more or less an amateur sport anyway.

Posted by stonk on (February 4, 2014, 5:15 GMT)

Even if Haroon Lorgat is reinstated to the ICC, CSA should beware of the BCCI who are only trying it on to get the Big three or four, for that matter, can dominate world cricket. The BCCI would do a deal with the devil in order to get their own way. CSA should take the high moral ground and defeat these proposals in order to save world cricket.

Posted by VijayVK on (February 4, 2014, 5:14 GMT)

India clearly knows that making an agreement with Pakistan is never going to be easy since it involves Indian government decision to play with them. So they took the easier route of convincing CSA. For CSA this is golden opportunity which they never thought of coming. To repair the financial damage they concur during India tour they will take this opportunity. Either way for pak this is lose-lose situation. The real loss will be for srilanka. Until last year they were playing against India day in and day out. And they were enjoying the windfall. But now that will change.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 5:14 GMT)

All the boards are selling their rights just for short term benefits and what is the guarantee that Big 3 will meet all their promises. These boards deserve to be suffered later on and I would be the happiest person if Big 3 ignore them in every important matter.

PCB would not be that ashamed 5 years from now on because at least they stood against evil.

Posted by HealthyCric on (February 4, 2014, 5:09 GMT)

@alipk52

Don't worry Pakistan and Srilanka have to vote they are good teams but they are in pretty bad position money wise! It's just few days (or a meeting) away and they want to play with India too , very badly. I rekon, India played more matches with SL than any one else in the past few years. Every Indian wants to see India and Pakistan playing too.

Posted by vipinchirackal on (February 4, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

you cant ignore the fact that only bcci can save cricket and its mainly because of their business head that this game is still existing and players from other countries also get their income.dont forget about the issues happened in the teams like srelanka ,zinbabwe,pakistan,bengladesh and west indies because of the delay in payment by the authorities.so let them first look after their players and them speak bla bla bla against BCCI. @yusuf we know what is happening in pakistan.you must be well aware of the reason why no team is ready to play in pakistan

Posted by SHK1 on (February 4, 2014, 4:55 GMT)

If CSA votes for the proposal on the condition that Haroon Logart reintegrates into the top administration then they will be compromising on their self respect. CSA, you are no. 1 team right now, please act like one and stick to your principles.

Posted by half_blood-prince on (February 4, 2014, 4:50 GMT)

pcb hasn't given up means they want more. in India in local news paper we've got headline on sports page that Sri Lanka is likely to host first few matches of IPL so slb is also out of equation. brace yourself for longer isolation pcb

Posted by Sir_Ivor on (February 4, 2014, 4:50 GMT)

I think people from Sri Lanka and Pakistan are being a bit hasty in their conclusions. I am not sure if the intention of the so called big three is to destroy cricket in the manner that is being feared. I am sure they wish to ensure that cricket is played by every country with good financial returns.In the past it appears that despite the major revenue coming from India,they have not got their due in monetary terms. In the past when Australia and England dominated the ICC no one really knew what happened with all the revenue generated. Now with India forming part of the troika,I think the other countries will all get much more than they may have expected in the erstwhile regime. The other thing to be really happy about is the mending of fences by the BCCI and CSA. They have had great relations in the past and I am sure will do so in the future as well. It was absolutely shameful that the frostiness between the boards was the result of ego clashes between two individuals.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 4:47 GMT)

Proud of Pakistan to be last man standing on a matter of principle!! Whatever the cost ...

Posted by tickcric on (February 4, 2014, 4:41 GMT)

As a cricket fan this is getting embarrassing to read. I can't believe my favourite sport is morally so weak.

Posted by AnotherCricketFan on (February 4, 2014, 4:29 GMT)

@HealthyCric - no one is going to comeback to see Indian 'loos'. And it does not matter whether are uptight or loose either .. But have to give it to you, you really made me laugh.

Posted by alipk52 on (February 4, 2014, 3:57 GMT)

So Pakistan and Sri Lankan team will face serious problems in future coz they didn't voted? CSA is the one I hoped will stand tall in any circumstances whatsoever, Now with current situation it seems Pak and SL are all alone, well it doesn't matter, I am very happy that PCB haven't given up yet, I hope they will never, I am also sure that Pak and SL will have to pay for it, BCCI might work harder to take the names of these two nation out from cricket, maybe they'll sense what will going to happen to their cricket in future so they find it good to vote rather than not.

Posted by HealthyCric on (February 4, 2014, 3:39 GMT)

I am a businessman! I love the way BCCi do things.

I strongly believe cricket is going to grow more than before. By now every one knows how important it is for Indian cricket team to play with the other countries..

The others who are opposing the revamp they will be inline soon. I am sure BCCI has biscuits for them too.

If anyone of u offend and want to take a break please do so, you will have to come back soon to cheer your country team up or to see India loos, but you will come back for sure. Every one has to loose every now and then it is not fun. Indian don't care about lost matches they want to watch the next match to see if India wins and who has time to track how many India is loosing when this much cricket is being watched.

Millions of cricket followers are adding up to watch the cricket every year. and cricket is going to grow more than before, just watch. BCCI has to fulfill the promises they are making as part of the deals.

Way to go BCCI, you Rock!!

Posted by OttawaRocks on (February 4, 2014, 3:35 GMT)

As the last 2 boards left, meaning the BCCI don't need anymore votes to join them, SL and PCB are left in isolation and in effect are no more. Basically as of now the BCCI will insist on the other nations ignoring SL and PCB. Therefore, SL and PCB will be playing against themselves until the end of time. Brilliant!

Posted by Hg1987 on (February 4, 2014, 3:03 GMT)

@Ranjan Rodrigo it doesn't matter SLC vote or not , IF CSA vote for them , then it'll be all over , If that happens the first thing what ICC(India cricket council ) will do is that punish SLC for going against them . and eventually cricket will be a 4 nation sport , if lucky enough Pakistan will survive .

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 2:59 GMT)

Looks like Srilanka will be in for cricket isolation like Zimbabwe if SAF vote which they will- the best thing now is to talk to india and get a deal done

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 2:34 GMT)

This ridiculous Proposals made by the so called BIG THREE should not be implemented. Otherwise, the history will never forgive you.

"That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ...........Aldous Huxley

Posted by ZkAneela on (February 4, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

I am a truely SA fan,still i am completely against this proposal.Let other boards do whatever they wanted to do but SA should not accept this as they are world no.1 team and this so called big 3 will suffer very heavily in future if they sidelined world no 1.

Posted by Atifkhan3489 on (February 4, 2014, 2:13 GMT)

I think PCB, SLC & CSA should meet eachother and suggest what to do.If anyone supports fro these three, then other 2 will b ruined.they should decide if they support then they all should vote in favour of big3 otherwise these 3 should reject everything offered by big3.They can't do anything without help of these 3 nations.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 1:15 GMT)

Thats good decision, and principle based decision regardless......be at the right side purpose even if Pakistan is alone in the end. It will be proved by time and will be a repent for all of them who supporting now and will.

Posted by Bulboy on (February 4, 2014, 1:13 GMT)

Cricket truly is a wonderful game. I have played it in the back yard and on competitive pitches since I can remember. It has been that way for well over a century. People have always derided change...8 ball overs...10 day games, 4 day games, 5 day games, floodlights, 60 over games, 50 over games, 40 and 45 over games, 20 over games...change is inevitable. And that's what has advanced cricket. Don't fight it, embrace it.

Posted by samincolumbia on (February 4, 2014, 0:58 GMT)

SL can join Pakistan and both can play as much as they want in the desert in the company of empty stands.

Posted by CherryWood_Champion on (February 4, 2014, 0:26 GMT)

I am not against the new revenue division according to the contribution rate, but was surprised by the other proposed relegation systems. With that taken care of, it seems to be a win-win situation here for all except Pak & SL. Looks like PCB & SLCB have got a raw deal. By Feb-8`th one of these remaining two will give in and secure a deal for themselves. Would be interesting to see who the last person would be that stands up against the big three. Pak or SL ? Any guesses ?

On a side note, the ways Afgans are playing cricket, I am looking forward to Afganisthan being given a Test status.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 0:14 GMT)

If any of you actually thought any of the dissenters gave half a damn about 'the spirit of the game', you were foolish. All the boards are just in it for themselves. The more you whine, you more of a reward the 'Big Three' will have to offer you to step on board. It's all just a big show.

Posted by Bulboy on (February 3, 2014, 23:54 GMT)

Like it or hate it, money attracts talent and enhances a sport. Adaptation is critical to survival. If cricket is to attract more talent, and expand globally...basically to survive and then thrive as a major sport, money is the means. We may not like that, but that's the reality today. Many a player has secured their financial future in a season or two of IPL. And many have their eye on that going forward. That is good for the game. The sooner PCB and SLB realize that and jump on board, the better for cricket. WICB, NZC & CSA have already figured that out.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 23:43 GMT)

What do they mean by BIG 3 simple to show we are superior. What a Status Quo these nations have made the cricket. Really a Shame

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 23:33 GMT)

@Shuraim I totally agree with you, Cricket started all the way back in Canada in 1870 when it was just a fun game to play but then it came to Australian and England who made the game very popular during the early and mid 1900's then finally all the countries started participating in this wonderful game at about 1950 and now India are just improving it, we are making it MUCH more financial because SA and Pak players only make like 10 mil a year max while mostly all the Indian players make atleast 28 mil and over a year. We are making sure that all the popular countries which are Pak, SA, Aus and Eng get everything they need to get to that top level in about 10-15 years. Also we are making sure that all the other countries which are SL, Ban, WI and NZ get a very good amount of games and hopefully increase their cricketing audience and get to that top financial level soon.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 22:42 GMT)

With this news, cricket is almost dead to me. Soon, Pakistan and SL will have no matches to play and the rest of the boards will rue this decision sooner than later. Very soon, cricket will have no international following.

Posted by carter1210 on (February 3, 2014, 21:16 GMT)

and Shuraim, cricket (or any other sport) is different than venture capital... I, hopefully, do not need to elaborate on that!!!!

Posted by Batmanindallas on (February 3, 2014, 20:56 GMT)

Everyone is in for themselves and they all know which side the butter is on....

Posted by cornered_again on (February 3, 2014, 20:56 GMT)

Death of cricket .... Cricket is on sale....

Posted by Stark62 on (February 3, 2014, 20:52 GMT)

Shame on you csa, SHAME ON YOU!!

Posted by rizwan1981 on (February 3, 2014, 20:49 GMT)

This is blackmail - How did cricket survive before India became a super power in cricket ? In a sense , Cricketers of all nations have become mercenaries and the officials are no better.

In the 80 s , Gavaskar may have earned only Rs.500 for a test match but today lesser cricketers want millions

It will be a very sad day if SA enters in to a Faustian bargain with India

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (February 3, 2014, 20:35 GMT)

@cooljack_143: Keep dreaming. If IND play all their games at home, they would remain no.1 for a very long time. Isn't that what the BCCI want ? More home series against the top nations. I don't think CSA would have gotten much in their favour except perhaps trying to do something that would put Lorgat in a more prominent role in CSA or the ICC itself. Either way, this is NOT great news if you are a SA supporter. Absolutely spineless ! Jeez, my respect for the PCB has increased two fold since this morning.

Posted by vj3478 on (February 3, 2014, 20:26 GMT)

Good News! CSA and BCCI are supposed to be good friends and good to hear that they are trying to resolve the issues. Both the boards and fans will benefit from the outcome.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 20:17 GMT)

Pigs will fly if SriLanka does not vote with the big 3 as S Africa may be doing soon. Join the band wagon and the merry go round will go till death of Cricket will soon come.

Ranjan Rodrigo

Posted by fair_paly_1 on (February 3, 2014, 19:24 GMT)

SA you were the first to raise the dissenting voice but you turned out to be Judas.

Posted by Temuzin on (February 3, 2014, 19:19 GMT)

@BlazingArrow89 : I am sorry to inform you. By Feb 8 many other countries cricket will be dead to you. All boards are jostling with their demands, the moment their demands met they simply prostrate before the big three. Big three did not put forward this proposal to be defeated. Obviously they had calculated their move well in advance. Money does talks.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 19:17 GMT)

Just read about the PCB's stance against the proposals and now CSA's decision to support it. Talk about an emotional rollercoaster. This is cowardice from each and every single board save for the PCB. It boils my blood to see the condition of cricket like this and the short sightedness of all the boards. Re instating a member on the ICC board and more bilateral series in the future are all it for the CSA to be convinced? Spineless, I say, absolutely spineless.

Posted by Daredevilfromdelhi on (February 3, 2014, 19:15 GMT)

So bcci gets the 8th vote,CSA gets IPL 2014 to host & indian tours & bilateral series with india.A win-win situation for both of them.Now Srilanka will also be thrown in isolation alongwith pakistan,the only 2 left to suffer money shortage.Poor struggling srilankan board may even loose their players to IPL like westindies if they dont reach a compromise with big 3.Pakistan is already getting the worst stick with no home matches,no matches with india,no IPL & now even less tours from other major cricket playing nations ending up with only srilanka to play with.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 19:13 GMT)

Money talks. Because of some greedy people in cricket the game has suffered. Cricket need to be expanded to other countries especially t20 version. More money will come automatically. And if this so called revamp goes ahead then they need to dissolve the icc. As they will have nothing left to do.

Posted by Shuraim on (February 3, 2014, 19:12 GMT)

Ah, What a relief, finally we are headed to the right path, we have seen investment and expertise can make any venture successful so why cricket is any different? England and Australia started this beautiful game and India took it to another level and now together with South Africa they will transform the game further, actually all those against this idea are thinking of personal interest and/or are jealous of the position of big 3 and India in particular thats the reason why they r not supporting this idea even so it brings destruction in the name of "prosperity" to cricket.

Posted by Temuzin on (February 3, 2014, 19:07 GMT)

@Jamal Ahmad Anjum: don't be surprised if the boards with character PCB and SLB fall in line this weekend. BTW if PCB and SLB really have spine and character, they will not be in this financial mess. Pakistan and srilanka have much more following for cricket than many countries. But these boards with character have everything but "The Character".

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 19:07 GMT)

please s Africa don't sell out like the Bangladesh stick to your stand cricket will finish if this happens..no more cricket for me

Posted by BlazingArrow89 on (February 3, 2014, 19:07 GMT)

I am a South African, but I will not support South Africa if they vote in favour of this "proposal". So they are going to patch things up with the BCCI...big whoop. Pakistan and Sri Lanka are the only ones with their own mind. South African cricket is dead to me...

Posted by cooljack_143 on (February 3, 2014, 19:04 GMT)

Sorry folks but AN END TO PAK & SLC, for following foot steps of CSA who could any times sideline giving the econom condit of board. But looks like by feb8 even PCB is going to join CSA ,dont know abt SLC. Good job by CSA, nw world can have freq and solid encounters with IND and take them to the bottom of the table in both ODI & T20's.Time for Gary to step in if this has to be stopped.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 19:00 GMT)

I remember an SA fan was saying, CSA will for sure not biw down to B3. Gone wi the wind and money makes the CSA go, huh.

Posted by Me_A_Gemini on (February 3, 2014, 19:00 GMT)

Very sad...CSA should think a thousand times before doing this....the fairness in cricket will be buried deep after such turnaround from CSA...

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 18:44 GMT)

@Pranesh you still think they are doing this for improving cricket? It's all money game bruv

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 18:43 GMT)

It is strange and pathetic. After spineless BCB, it is probably CSA who are going to bow down for the sake of some quick money. Well done Pakistan and Sri Lanka. There is a saying: If you lose wealth, you lose nothing, if you lose health, you lose something, if you lose character, you lose everything. Here not only losing their character the bow-down action will bring incalculable damage to the game of cricket.

Posted by   on (February 3, 2014, 18:26 GMT)

If everything happens for improvising cricket.. It would be great...but if Big 3 try to dominate then cricket is going to be at stake

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