January 23, 2010

A case of misplaced outrage

It's not easy to assign blame for the fiasco over the exclusion of Pakistani players from the third season of the IPL
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Once again an issue involving India and Pakistan has blown up into a storm, thanks to some misunderstanding and some bad handling, with the repercussions still unclear. The immediate, regrettable fallout of Tuesday's IPL auction is that there will be no Pakistani players in the coming season, but it is quite conceivable that things will spill over beyond that.

Pakistan is outraged; sportsmen, politicians, the common man have all had their say. There is talk of the Pakistan team boycotting next month's hockey World Cup in India, and perhaps a boycott of the Commonwealth Games in Delhi later this year. There have also been calls for Pakistani cable operators to black out coverage of the IPL. The PCB chief says he will take up the issue with the ICC. The outrage is understandable, for the cricketers are national heroes - six months ago they were crowned world champions in this very format of the game. It may be scant consolation to those in Pakistan but their outrage is shared to some extent across the border - not least by Indian fans looking forward to seeing some of the most exciting cricketers in live action.

Yet all that outrage is slightly misplaced, because this is not a decision of the Indian government, nor even of the BCCI; this is not a matter of national importance, it isn't even about a bilateral tour. This is a decision concerning 11 cricketers, taken by the IPL franchises, eight separate and distinct entities. The ICC has no locus standi on this issue and the threats - calling off a tour, boycotting a tournament, resorting to censorship - are political tools that assign the issue far more importance than it deserves. India's foreign ministry put it succinctly: "The participation or absence of Pakistani cricketers in a commercial event of the nature of the IPL is a matter not within the purview of the government."

It's the cricketers who have every right to feel short-changed. For the past two months, they have been put through an emotional wringer, forced to deal with legal complexities and faced with shifting goalposts. Below, to refresh memory, at the risk of repetition, is the sequence of events:

November 16: The IPL sets a deadline of November 20 for Pakistani players to get no-objection certificates from their board and clearance from their government.

November 25: Apparently realising the impossibility of the deadline, the IPL extends it to December 7

December 7: Lalit Modi, the IPL commissioner, says Pakistani players are out of the IPL since they have failed to meet the deadline, amid claims from the Pakistan side that they had done their share of the paperwork. "The players have applied for visas but the clearance hasn't come from the Indian side. The ball is not in our court," Ijaz Butt, the PCB chairman, says.

December 10: Modi extends the deadline for Pakistani players to December 31 but bowls a googly - the four players already on the franchises' books will not be eligible for the auction.

December 30: Cricinfo reports that 12 Pakistani players have applied for the auction.

January 2: The IPL's official longlist for the auction shows that 26 Pakistanis have registered.

The shortlist - those players specifically requested by the franchises - released on January 6, had seven Pakistani names. Another list, released on January 16, had 11.

So whom does one shout at? Whose effigy to burn? Whom to blame? It's not as easy as it once was, when decisions were taken by a single, identifiable entity; the game has changed, market forces are at play

There is, from the outside, no evidence to suggest that anything happened on the political front between January 6, when these players were officially sought by the franchises, and the auction on January 19, when they were rejected. If you were a Pakistani player - and those up for auction were among the world's best - you had every right to believe, on the morning of January 19, that you would be signed up by a franchise. Short-changed? Mugged is a better word for it.

Their plight evokes much sympathy. The danger is that it will cloud an objective look at the situation. Ultimately, this was an economic decision aimed at the bottom line - a situation admittedly poorly handled and probably not thought through, but a decision free of bias.

One can fix the blame on any or all of the principals involved, depending on one's perception. The cricketers, it can be argued, set themselves up for such a humiliation the moment they agreed to be auctioned. Humiliation is merely the flip side of the million-dollar contract. You can't have the dough and the dignity.

By that act, they crossed some line and ceded their right to be treated with the dignity one would expect. The Indian government did not send a clear message either way that would give a direction to the process. The IPL could have handled the situation far better, taking the lead where no one else was willing to.

The final call, though, rested with the franchises and they exercised their choice. They, too, could have handled it better - the call they took on January 19 could conceivably have been taken weeks before, when the situation was the same, thereby nipping this controversy in the bud. But the decision they eventually took was a simple matter of reconciling squad sheets and balance sheets. The mantra at this year's auction was availability; franchises sought those players with a guaranteed presence through the tournament. For most players, this meant being free of other commitments; for Pakistanis, it meant not being hostage to the mercurial relations between the two countries. Ultimately, that was a risk too big for the franchises to take.

So whom does one shout at? Whose effigy to burn? Whom to blame? It's not as easy as it once was, when decisions were taken by a single, identifiable entity. The game has changed, market forces are at play. The government is as much a bystander as are the ICC and the BCCI. Instead of burning effigies, the outraged in Pakistan can follow the old maxim: If you can't join 'em, beat 'em.

Jayaditya Gupta is executive editor of Cricinfo in India

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  • POSTED BY dal20 on | January 24, 2010, 1:04 GMT

    There were 11 slots available and 66 international players to pick from and each team had a specific slot to fill. Obviously, the teams wanted to fill the best possible option. On the contrary if there was government involvement (which we don't really need), there would be a quota to select someone from every country, don't you think ? You want to build a team that has a good chance to win rather than one that parades the top international players.

  • POSTED BY fataquie on | January 23, 2010, 23:36 GMT

    I think Pakistanis are underestimating their ability to create a similar type of league for Pakistan. Unusual circumstances call for unusual and out of the box thinking. A "global pakistan league" exploiting the $$ of expartriates and their passion for the game would be awesome. Imagine such a league which has teams from Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, etc. with Sharjah, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc...More importantly imagine Afridi being auctioned for Dubai.. It may be far fetched but all great endeavours initially seem far fetched. If PCB become creative, they would not have to be knocking on any door....Bottom line, it is up to us, and no one else, how we come out of this situation, either mere beggars for some spots in an Indian tournament or going two steps further than IPL!! When there is a will, there is a way...does PCB have the will?

  • POSTED BY INVINCIBL3 on | January 23, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    who pays the money? franchise owners. so who are to decide whom to pick and whom to not? franchise owners. right. So deal wid it. watch the edition or don't. thats the only decision u can make. Stop whining and move on.

  • POSTED BY U.A.1985 on | January 23, 2010, 21:30 GMT

    Tell me how does it sound like "none of the players from World T20 Champion Team selected in IPL T20". Lot of people here talking abt IPL a business and that y cant Pakistanis understand thats its a pure business thing and this and that. Well lemme telll u all if u talkin abt from business point of view than it is aloss to not select players like Afridi and Gul. I doubt there will be people turning off their tv sets when Afridi comes out to bat or Gul is bowling. Why did not the IPL & franchises think about increase in TV ratings which would occur because Pakistanis were playing. As far as the argument abt relations between 2 countries goes, I think there was no need to show this concern at the auction, the franchises should have communicated this to IPL well before and IPL should have communicated this to PCB well before. It just is not posssible that overnight the franchises thought "oh no, wat abt the relations between the govts we forgot abt that"...

    Anybody to answer this?

  • POSTED BY aashanhaider on | January 23, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    Dear Mr. Gupta, I wish things were as simple as you make them out to be. The situation of the pakistani players is no diffirent to 2 months ago when the same franchises expressed their interest in signing Pak players. I wud not rule out a concerted effort by Indian government and BCCI to instruct the franchises not to bid for these players. This way they can hide behind the franchises. And I do not buy your argument that the outrage of Pakistanis is shared by the Indians. If this was true we have yet to see something to that effect atleast on Cricinfo from the many writers. Instead all I have seen from Indian writers is to somehow justify the decision.

  • POSTED BY khanofcricket on | January 23, 2010, 21:00 GMT

    In my humble opinion, all the opinions mentioned by different bloggers appear to have some validity - it all depends on how you look at it. All said and done, the game of cricket will be a loser without the excitement and flair that Pakistani players bring to it (This would be very similiar if we were to take out Australian or Indian cricketers from a tournament or a league). After all Pakistan is the reigning champion of T20 and without beating the campions, no one can claim to be a champion - it would be a case of losers playing against losers!! There won't be another Gawaskar, Tendulkar, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and similar other names prodcued by sub-continent. Lets be all inclusive and enjoy the real game of cricket - let the politicians do the politics!

  • POSTED BY saifkl on | January 23, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    To all the Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan fans, we should understand that IPL is an indian League and that is it. Instead of venting out on BCCI and IPL, this is a great opportunity to form another serious league that is not a country based but rather regional, like Pakistan, Bnagladesh, Sri Lanka (I am sure Sril Lankan fans would love to see their stars represent colombo or candy etc..), UAE (has excellent facilitties).

    At this point BCCI by its virtue of distancing itself from this fiasco has opened the doors for a better league and in the long run it would suffer. It is thier right to choose who they want to play and who they want to exlcude but they no longer can or should be able to dictate other countries in the region as to what they should do.

    BCCI and IPL out of their arrogance has provided a huge opportunity for others in the region and it is really a great blessing in disguise....

    Hopefully smart ones would grab this opportunity..

  • POSTED BY lethalbouncer on | January 23, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    At the end of the day with the linguistic and cultural commonalities it's difficult to be isolated from each other. I know people in Pakistan that worship Bollywood stars since childhood and revere Sachin in exactly the same terms he is revered in India. Underneath the nationalistic jingoism Pakistanis were really opening up to India as regional big brother that it had started to have a more healthy relationship with. When the Mumbai incident happened people in Pakistan were shocked and every Pakistani I know commiserated with their Indian friends. If someone wanted to create hatred between the two countries the Mumbai incidents was a perfect way to do it. Now unfortunately people will stop watching the IPL in Pakistan, right wingers will call for a ban on bollywood films and things will roll backwards. I'm not sure who wins in that situation? Definitely not Pakistan or India.

  • POSTED BY msnsrinivas on | January 23, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Why in God's name is this such a big issue. There are bigger problems than a bunch of players trying to earn some easy dough but denied the opportunity to do so. I think these guys should stop whinging & moaning and act like proper men. It's not as if the franchises have an obligation to take them, is it? All said and done, it makes perfect business sense to do what they did and there's no denying the fact that it is indeed business. The risks are just far too many.

  • POSTED BY cricsand on | January 23, 2010, 19:39 GMT

    All this crying and whining by Pakistanis is just ridiculous. I would have loved to have seen the Pakistani cricketers in the IPL, specially Mohammed Aamer. But to politicize the whole issue, and withdraw hockey teams, kabbadi teams, wrestling teams, gilli danda teams is stupid. They even stopped the Chief Election Commissioner from coming to India because of this, how funny is that. Sure cricket and politics should not be mixed, and whatever happened might have been perceived as an insult to the cricketers but to say it was an insult to the whole nation is just going overboard.

  • POSTED BY dal20 on | January 24, 2010, 1:04 GMT

    There were 11 slots available and 66 international players to pick from and each team had a specific slot to fill. Obviously, the teams wanted to fill the best possible option. On the contrary if there was government involvement (which we don't really need), there would be a quota to select someone from every country, don't you think ? You want to build a team that has a good chance to win rather than one that parades the top international players.

  • POSTED BY fataquie on | January 23, 2010, 23:36 GMT

    I think Pakistanis are underestimating their ability to create a similar type of league for Pakistan. Unusual circumstances call for unusual and out of the box thinking. A "global pakistan league" exploiting the $$ of expartriates and their passion for the game would be awesome. Imagine such a league which has teams from Lahore, Karachi, Pindi, etc. with Sharjah, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, etc...More importantly imagine Afridi being auctioned for Dubai.. It may be far fetched but all great endeavours initially seem far fetched. If PCB become creative, they would not have to be knocking on any door....Bottom line, it is up to us, and no one else, how we come out of this situation, either mere beggars for some spots in an Indian tournament or going two steps further than IPL!! When there is a will, there is a way...does PCB have the will?

  • POSTED BY INVINCIBL3 on | January 23, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    who pays the money? franchise owners. so who are to decide whom to pick and whom to not? franchise owners. right. So deal wid it. watch the edition or don't. thats the only decision u can make. Stop whining and move on.

  • POSTED BY U.A.1985 on | January 23, 2010, 21:30 GMT

    Tell me how does it sound like "none of the players from World T20 Champion Team selected in IPL T20". Lot of people here talking abt IPL a business and that y cant Pakistanis understand thats its a pure business thing and this and that. Well lemme telll u all if u talkin abt from business point of view than it is aloss to not select players like Afridi and Gul. I doubt there will be people turning off their tv sets when Afridi comes out to bat or Gul is bowling. Why did not the IPL & franchises think about increase in TV ratings which would occur because Pakistanis were playing. As far as the argument abt relations between 2 countries goes, I think there was no need to show this concern at the auction, the franchises should have communicated this to IPL well before and IPL should have communicated this to PCB well before. It just is not posssible that overnight the franchises thought "oh no, wat abt the relations between the govts we forgot abt that"...

    Anybody to answer this?

  • POSTED BY aashanhaider on | January 23, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    Dear Mr. Gupta, I wish things were as simple as you make them out to be. The situation of the pakistani players is no diffirent to 2 months ago when the same franchises expressed their interest in signing Pak players. I wud not rule out a concerted effort by Indian government and BCCI to instruct the franchises not to bid for these players. This way they can hide behind the franchises. And I do not buy your argument that the outrage of Pakistanis is shared by the Indians. If this was true we have yet to see something to that effect atleast on Cricinfo from the many writers. Instead all I have seen from Indian writers is to somehow justify the decision.

  • POSTED BY khanofcricket on | January 23, 2010, 21:00 GMT

    In my humble opinion, all the opinions mentioned by different bloggers appear to have some validity - it all depends on how you look at it. All said and done, the game of cricket will be a loser without the excitement and flair that Pakistani players bring to it (This would be very similiar if we were to take out Australian or Indian cricketers from a tournament or a league). After all Pakistan is the reigning champion of T20 and without beating the campions, no one can claim to be a champion - it would be a case of losers playing against losers!! There won't be another Gawaskar, Tendulkar, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and similar other names prodcued by sub-continent. Lets be all inclusive and enjoy the real game of cricket - let the politicians do the politics!

  • POSTED BY saifkl on | January 23, 2010, 20:16 GMT

    To all the Pakistani, Bangladeshi and Sri Lankan fans, we should understand that IPL is an indian League and that is it. Instead of venting out on BCCI and IPL, this is a great opportunity to form another serious league that is not a country based but rather regional, like Pakistan, Bnagladesh, Sri Lanka (I am sure Sril Lankan fans would love to see their stars represent colombo or candy etc..), UAE (has excellent facilitties).

    At this point BCCI by its virtue of distancing itself from this fiasco has opened the doors for a better league and in the long run it would suffer. It is thier right to choose who they want to play and who they want to exlcude but they no longer can or should be able to dictate other countries in the region as to what they should do.

    BCCI and IPL out of their arrogance has provided a huge opportunity for others in the region and it is really a great blessing in disguise....

    Hopefully smart ones would grab this opportunity..

  • POSTED BY lethalbouncer on | January 23, 2010, 20:01 GMT

    At the end of the day with the linguistic and cultural commonalities it's difficult to be isolated from each other. I know people in Pakistan that worship Bollywood stars since childhood and revere Sachin in exactly the same terms he is revered in India. Underneath the nationalistic jingoism Pakistanis were really opening up to India as regional big brother that it had started to have a more healthy relationship with. When the Mumbai incident happened people in Pakistan were shocked and every Pakistani I know commiserated with their Indian friends. If someone wanted to create hatred between the two countries the Mumbai incidents was a perfect way to do it. Now unfortunately people will stop watching the IPL in Pakistan, right wingers will call for a ban on bollywood films and things will roll backwards. I'm not sure who wins in that situation? Definitely not Pakistan or India.

  • POSTED BY msnsrinivas on | January 23, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Why in God's name is this such a big issue. There are bigger problems than a bunch of players trying to earn some easy dough but denied the opportunity to do so. I think these guys should stop whinging & moaning and act like proper men. It's not as if the franchises have an obligation to take them, is it? All said and done, it makes perfect business sense to do what they did and there's no denying the fact that it is indeed business. The risks are just far too many.

  • POSTED BY cricsand on | January 23, 2010, 19:39 GMT

    All this crying and whining by Pakistanis is just ridiculous. I would have loved to have seen the Pakistani cricketers in the IPL, specially Mohammed Aamer. But to politicize the whole issue, and withdraw hockey teams, kabbadi teams, wrestling teams, gilli danda teams is stupid. They even stopped the Chief Election Commissioner from coming to India because of this, how funny is that. Sure cricket and politics should not be mixed, and whatever happened might have been perceived as an insult to the cricketers but to say it was an insult to the whole nation is just going overboard.

  • POSTED BY fmukani on | January 23, 2010, 19:15 GMT

    George Bernard shaw "Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power" and I can see the fools sitting around the auction tables corrupting the game of cricket. Why Pakistani are angry? Simply bcoz they have the best 20/20 players and more than that they are current 20/20 champions if that wasnt the case I wouldnt care. secondly if IPL is an international tournament as performance and stats are used in international career stat of player's by ICC and If IPL picks and chooses which international sides are welcome than it shouldnt be considered international tournament and shouldnt be backed by ICC. Worst of all Cricket fans accross the borders have been deprived of good cricket and a wonderful tournament just starts to look pretty bogus. I just would like to see indians cricket fans show their disappointment for not seeing some of the 20/20's greats not playing.

  • POSTED BY Blacklung on | January 23, 2010, 19:10 GMT

    Saifkl just wrote the funniest thing, "BCCI made sure that the only viable league in Asia is IPL."

    How EXACTLY did the IPL magically make itself the only viable league in Asia? What stopped the PCB from creating a PPL and making $millions?

  • POSTED BY controcric on | January 23, 2010, 18:33 GMT

    @ saifkl, It was not only the Pakistani players, everybody playing in the ICL was banned including Indian players, so do not attempt to isolate the facts and claim that pakistani players were the victims there.

    Also, it was not a "ban" because the BCCI is a private body and does not have the right to ban any citizen from representing their country. The BCCI also requested other cricket boards to refrain from selecting any players to their national teams that are playing in the ICL. The other cricket boards including the PCB obliged, therefore you need to take that up with the PCB if you have any concerns about it. If the PCB had no problem banning their own players in the past, and also not allowing their players to play in the 2nd season of the the IPL, how can it have a problem with a few cricketers not being sold in the IPL auction? Therefore, should'nt India consider not allowing pakistan players to play in IPL 2 as an insult? Did you see Indian making a big fuss then?

  • POSTED BY Azfar on | January 23, 2010, 18:28 GMT

    Let me tell upfront that I am an indian. I have read the articles by Harsha Bhogle and Jayaditya with interest. I completely agree with Jayaditya's statement that 'The cricketers set themselves up for such a humiliation the moment they agreed to be auctioned. Humiliation is merely the flip side of the million-dollar contract'. For the last 2 IPL's we saw the good side of this money spinner. Now we see the flip side. The players have to understand that unlike selection of a state or a national side, IPL franchisees don't select players just on cricketing ability. They have many other considerations. They may seem unjustified but nothing can be done about it as they are shelling out the big bucks. Just to give you an (hypothetical) example, even if Ganguly plays badly in IPL3, KKR management and owner (Shahrukh Khan) will find it very difficult to drop him as the Kolkata public will not accept a KKR team without him...So it is not cricketing logic but the bottomline....

  • POSTED BY rajesh_cricinfo on | January 23, 2010, 17:59 GMT

    As far as pakistan winning the T20 world cup to "give a slap" to Lalit Modi it is laughable.You already won it once and he has already showed you what he thinks of your win.So that is that.

    I personally am outraged that the 11 pakistani players who applied as individuals and got rejected are trying to treat this as an insult to their country to create a backlash.I personally believe that if the IPL said that you cannot play for pakistan if you want to play in IPL these players will not blink an eye to dump all their patriotic insticnts into the arabian sea( as could be seen in case of iCL).Opportunism at its best.

    For people who are saying that nobody is going to watch IPL because of the absence of pakistani players IPL2 was more successful than IPL1 and that too in a "great depression".Imagine what IPL3 can do in a recovery. We will barely miss your audience.

  • POSTED BY mansoorkayani on | January 23, 2010, 17:40 GMT

    indeed a good article but in the defense of indian govt and BCCI .... Lalit Moodi is a genius off course and PCB is paying for its mistakes and moodi is taking every mistake as a bonus .... as an indian he will never let pakistanis to have some money .... restricting pakistani players to play in 2008 was the worst mistake of PCB and even now .... all the outrage in pakistan will also favour moodi as next time pakistani players will not apply (this auction was also the part of moodi,s planning ..... and what is going on isexactly what moodi knew before and it will make pakistani players out of IPL for years )

  • POSTED BY prarush on | January 23, 2010, 17:25 GMT

    Well, it's all about the money. Who would have cared about inclusion/non-inclusion had IPL/franchises not shelved out so much money on the players. Ultimately, it's the money and greed that is dancing the tunes of everybody.

  • POSTED BY saifkl on | January 23, 2010, 17:14 GMT

    Alothough your logic/argument is correct, however it is only one dimensional. This is a multi-dimensional issue because it was BCCI who went and made a bis issue and even had the Pakistanu players banned because of ICL. BCCI made sure that the only viable league in Asia is IPL. Now that BCCI has acheived that it cannot simply wash it hands off the issue and make business aruments and blame the current situation on movie stars and businessmen.

    It needs to make sure that the integrity of the league is maintained. Or else it should have no issue about creation of other leagues in the region.

    Bottom line is that you cannot have your cake and eat it too...

  • POSTED BY badal on | January 23, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    All I know, what ever happened, should have been avoided. Why invited the players in the first place, when you knew, you will not be picking them up, and that's the whole argument is about. I hope, this will not to be happened again, other wise, IPL or any league will be destroyed by such antics. Sports should always be remained sports, not to be associated with stupid politics. I am sure millions of fans accross India, also like to watch Boom Boom, Amir, Gul and Tanvir in action too. Like last year, this year T20 will not be the same again as the first one.

  • POSTED BY shaaar00 on | January 23, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    some wise men said about indians once: bagal ma churee, moon sa ram ram...this so fits into this situation. Its not about 11 players.Its about Indians continue to lie and continue to present half facts. We here do not care about intricies IPL. neither we care about any of our players performance. most of us don't even watch it. However, these players were representing a nation. and IPL franchises disrespected that insignia. It is impossible that their was no planning behind this snub. Players could 've been informed through their board. Nope, they decided it out cold. Anyway, i hope no pakistani player plays IPL again. ever. I hope PCB selects no players back from IPL. and please indians spare us your geo political understanding of region. we have survived and we will continue to. However, can you continue this aggressive attitude for long. haa, don't think so. what goes around, comes around. so hang tight...

  • POSTED BY mcsundar81 on | January 23, 2010, 16:47 GMT

    To all those Indians who are against the IPL teams for not taking in the Pakistani players, pls tell me if you will feel the same if you had lost any of your family members to the Mumbai attack. You can say that this is sports and we should not bring politics/terrorism into this. But the fact is that the Mumbai attack was planned and executed by ppl from across the border. So why would you want Indian companies to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to Pakistanis, even if they are cricketers? Do you think a Mumbaikar who has lost his near and dear ones in the terrorist attack can support Shahid Afridi if he is playing for Mumbai Indians? Would anyone of you do that? I wont. I am after all a human being. I may forgive but never forget. The IPL actually did a good thing by including the players in the auction but the teams chose the safer path.

  • POSTED BY moulics on | January 23, 2010, 16:47 GMT

    What a stupidity. Every one loves controversy. The Pakistan episode is a clear case of media frenzy and unpardonable commentary on bilateral relations which should have been just a case of pure commerce and entertainment.

    IPL is neither cricket nor charity. It is a incidentally uses a set of global cricket talents to promote the cause of the brands of the individual owners who pour money for their cause.

    Where is the question of insult if the players come to the auction. You are already allowing yourselves to be sold to the highest bidder and hence there cannot be any emotions for selection. It is a question of some one buying the relevant member to find a value for their individual cause.

    It is pure commerce.

    On a different note I donot think neither the Government of India, BCCI nor any one in the cricketing circles need to respond to the idiosyncrasies of the Pakistanis.

  • POSTED BY controcric on | January 23, 2010, 16:28 GMT

    Another important question to ask yourself if you are a Pakistani who is outraged by the whole situation is ...What has Pakistan done for India? I can't think of any thing half decent that Pakistan has done for India to be so outraged really.

    I am sure most of you don't even know about another league called the ICL ( not IPL). The ICL was started by Kapil Dev and very similar to the IPL. Let me just enlighten you about some of the names that played in the ICL, Imran Nazir, Abdur Razzaq, Rana Naved, Imran farhat etc. These players were ignored by your very own PCB and ICL gave them an opportunity to make a come back, it was due to their performances in the ICL and the fact that BCCI released them from being rebel cricketers, that they were selected back into the Pakistani team. Now how many of you knew that? I think Pakistan needs to show some gratitude rather then fussing and whining about everything. Please answer the question as before, What has Pakistan done for India?

  • POSTED BY kaushikbasu on | January 23, 2010, 16:25 GMT

    I feel this is not a planned thing. There were three things here. First we should not compare Indian players with foreign playrers because as a rule any side can play at most 3 foreign players in a match and has to play 8 Indian players so comparing why Kaif was sold and not Afridi would not solve the issue. Secon was the money cap every franchise had a money cap of USD 750K which most exhausted as MI and KKR on Pollard and Bond and remember these players were auctioned after Pak players and there were ties between CSK anh Kings with these two franch on these players so could never bid on auctions earlier. Third and most important point with such a fragile relationship between the two govts, you never know when even a smallest incident can trigger denial of visas for Pak players which means that they cannot play but the franch as to pay the part confirmed to them. Finally it was upto the franch and the coaches who must have decided whom to field as playing 11 and Pak players might not

  • POSTED BY Zaheerahmed on | January 23, 2010, 16:18 GMT

    My answer to Ajaym_believer - I dont know how old were you during Kerry Packer days. The truth is that Gavaskar & Co were simply not good enough to be invited by Kerry Packer. The performance of Gavaskar, Vishwanath & Indian spin quartet on fast and bouncy Australian wickets was pathetic to say the least and did not carry any market value. Whereas Pakistani players are world champions in this form of the game.

  • POSTED BY criclover88 on | January 23, 2010, 16:11 GMT

    The main reason for all this protests is that if IPL organizers and Franshisees already knew the uncertainty about the availability of Pakistani players, they should have informed Paki players about their doubts before the auction. But they didn't. Instead, they let them come to india, participate in auction, knowing, no one would bid on them...THATS INSULTING...and thats what all this fuss is about.

  • POSTED BY truth_bearer on | January 23, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    Trying to persuade people that exclusion of Pakistanis is all about availability and security is like trying to persuade Indians that attacks against Indian students in Australia are not racist at all. Why not own up to basic truths ? India can not continue to reward cricketers from a country whose Jihadis keep gunning down innocent people. You say sports and politics should not mix, I say it's perfectly fine to do so when a country has been mixing Islamic Jihad with its foreign policy for a while now...

  • POSTED BY I.K.Hassan on | January 23, 2010, 16:09 GMT

    Well, I disagree to the main point that Mr.Gupta has mentioned in this article about the market forces being the reason behind the snub. This is because I have read an article in Cricinfo that the Pakistani players were included in the auction list only after the franchises sought for the respective players. So don't you think if that was a correct piece of information, then your views are contradictory?

  • POSTED BY controcric on | January 23, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    It is as simple as this ..there were close to 66 players up for the auction and only 11 or so spots to be filled, there were more than 50 players who did not make the cut. So why is that only Pakistan feels offended and whining about this? It's an auction!!! Please look up the word auction in the dictionary!!

    Nobody made a fuss when Pakistan players were not allowed to play the IPL season 2. Do you really think, it would have made a difference if the IPL did not allow Pakistani players to list themselves in the first place? NO! There would have been more whining like this about how only Pakistani players were not allowed to list themselves for the IPL auction and what a big insult it is to the players.

    You have to kidding yourself if the Paki players did not know at the back of their minds that there was a good chance of none of them being selected, they gave it a shot, it did not work out, now move on!! Quit your whining, enough already.

  • POSTED BY ferrari5107 on | January 23, 2010, 16:03 GMT

    Not bidding on any Pakistani player was the matter of availability, then I dont think that Damien Martyn would have been picked. I dont think that franchises have forgotten about the threat by Shiv Sena against the Aussies playing in India. Plus i dont understand why players forget about there security when they see money. Dont they watch the news, dont they know that there is a big threat by Talibans about hijacking the indian airplanes. I dont think players care about security when there is big money involved. Same thing with England they left india after the mumbai attacks then came back to finish their tour, because BCCI gives more money than pakistan. There is no reason to believe that availability was issue for not picking pakistani players.

  • POSTED BY Sangram1 on | January 23, 2010, 16:00 GMT

    Let me remind you one thing.this auction is only for 1 session.Why any franchise would spent $ 750,000 for any Pakistani player,while there is no guarantee that he will play in the IPL3? I mean if there is any further attack like 26/11,then no Pakistani will play .And who will be the loser?only the franchise.So they avoided.

  • POSTED BY ikhlaqraja on | January 23, 2010, 15:55 GMT

    this is not fair both subcontinent cricket and block. there is to much differences between india and Pakistan and all there countries are suffering like Srilanka and Bangladesh, it very clear if u do,nt want pakistan player .You should clearly say no, so there is no hope . you are invitee some and dishonor, actually this is not civilize for any hosting nation and future relations . for doing so india hurt cricket not Pakistani players. may they generate income sources from english premier league or Australian league, but they are good and demanded in the worlds any where in the world.

  • POSTED BY Jonirook on | January 23, 2010, 15:42 GMT

    To Zaheerahmed, Buddy this is a cricket web site so please keep your politics out of this, no one is talking about what SUPPOSEDLY happened in Bombay. If Pakistani players playing in India is a security risk then what will be so different in the world cup....maybe Pakistan should not play in India during the World cup instead Pakistan should demand to have their matches moved from India to either Sri Lanka or Bangladesh.

  • POSTED BY ketandholakia on | January 23, 2010, 14:56 GMT

    I am not sure what the cause of the outrage is on either side. Pakistanis(cricketers and others) need to understand that there are repercussions to tacitly backing jihadi elements that kill scores in Mumbai and other places. If they want to play in India, they should talk to their government which is the one who has caused security concerns in all of India. Why should any IPL franchise foot the bill and wreck it's balance sheet to pay for additional security simply so that some Pakistani cricketers can play, earn millions and pay taxes to their government. Indians need to understand that their country should come first and foremost. When are we as a nation going to put our country before our entertainment options? Have we no Pride? Shame? Am not worried. Cricket wil still survive. Pakistani cricket and cricketers won't. No one will tour them and soon they won't be allowed to tour anywhere either.

  • POSTED BY Alex72 on | January 23, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    Why Pak players behavior is despicable?

    a) Pak players were not representing Pak in IPL, neither were they cultural ambassadors. To represent your country, at the minimum you get paid (even if a pittance) by the home country & you play for glory.

    At IPL, Pak players wanted to be auctioned as private individuals, with the motive of private profiteering from a commercial event. The question of insult to Pakistan for the failure of a few individuals to rake in big money, in private capacity from a commercial enterprise is simply absurd.

    Players hurt is doubled, not only they lost on big money, normally associated with IPL, but also the premium wind fall from their current status as world champions did not materialize.

    But here is when the players, blinded by greed lost all morality. Individual failures were wrapped as national insults to arouse Pak national pride, only for their greed of profiteering from IPL.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | January 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Pakistan wants to blame India at every possible opportunity because their internal problems have becaome so complex. It is surprising that the blame game has also extended to Cricket.1. Pakistanis have clearly breached the eligibility deadline by not complying with the dates set. IPL is a business and Pakistanis do not get any special treatment. They must comply with the ground rules set by IPL just like every other Cricketer irrespective of their origin. 2. unless the players perform none of the IPL clubs will waste their money on them. Their T-20 captain, Afridi was a poor performerr for the Deccan during the 2 years he played there. 3. the popularity after the Mumbai massacre by Pakistani terrorists will not help public appeal either. 4. Last but not least how pakistani cricketers compare with the rest in these 3 aspects. Clearly in the eyes of the Franchise owners, the Pakistanis failed on all 4 counts. Pakistanis should learn from these instead of protests & boycotts.

  • POSTED BY sysubrceq0 on | January 23, 2010, 14:36 GMT

    @getyas... u r comparing afridi, razzak,nazir and gul with sachin, dravid & laxman.. i dont take afridi if i am a franchise owner.. no one knows when he plays..razzak & nazir not in natnl. team... only deserved cadidate from Pak is Gul with form, talent & commitment. Pls dont compare those jokers with legends like Sachin, Dravid, ganguly & laxman. Dravid proved more in IPL-1,2 than young guns.

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | January 23, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    @getyaas...all the 67 players were auctioned and not just pakistani players and therefore 56 players had to go home anyhow...how can u say that just bcoz they r pakistani players they had to b taken???performance is not da only criterion,check out all the auctions till now for IPL1,IPL2 & IPL3 and u will find dat many good and popular players were also had either fetched less or not selected as compared to many lesser known players..many players were not selected and it has nothing 2 d wid nationality here,there was only 10 international slots so u cant accommodate all 67 players...

  • POSTED BY sysubrceq0 on | January 23, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    why all the guys dont get the point of view from franchises.... no franchise wud like to buy a player who is uncertain with limited picking options (11 of 64). Also there are still 3 more months to go for IPL to begin and anything can happen and PAK govt. will not allow players like last edition of IPL-2 where franchises are left out with not much options ( KKR & RR especially). Afridi has shown what he is capable of in IPL-1 & given stupid statements on Laxman (team Captain), Akhtar and Asif... better to not talk abt them. Only player who deserves is Gul.. Tanvir not in their national team so we cant expect franchises will pick based on IPL-1. K. Akmal (lost place in team), Mohd. Ameer is unproven in T20 ( who cant take a sitter of Pontng at 0 who made 209 at the end) and Sarwan is lot better than U. Akmal who is not picked ..there are some cricketers who are better than these players not selected by Frachises.. pakis stop crying on the issue.. it is just private league..

  • POSTED BY deepakjm on | January 23, 2010, 14:20 GMT

    Why there is so much noise about this issue ??? Why we forget that last year Pakistan government didn't allow their players to play in IPL ??? Was that a right decision ? But none of the IPL franchise created any fuss about that.

  • POSTED BY khanlala707 on | January 23, 2010, 14:17 GMT

    To read some of the viwers views is shocking (talking about Money), it is true that money matters but lets get it right guys It is not about money, Its about PRIDE of CHAMPS, DIGNITY, MUTUAL RESPECT, MORALITY, SPORTSMAN SPIRIT and IPL (Indian political League ;-))) Being BIASED.. CRICKET is a sport not just a business. even ur business decisions cant be descriminatory (not atleast in civilise parts of the world). A quick question for all those who just watch the game,, what is the monetary return you getting for watching it?

  • POSTED BY Alex72 on | January 23, 2010, 14:14 GMT

    What Pak players were not selected?

    a) Pak government withdrew Pak players from IPL II, causing sever disruption to team strategies at the last minute. It would only be fool hardy to bet on India-Pak relations for player availability. Good replacements at the last minute are not possible as the best are taken up by the end of the process.

    b) Pak players will not be great brand ambassadors for the franchises in India in the current climate.

    c) Franchises will have to spend extra but more importantly be responsible for security of Pak players.

    For those in the business of making money, risk of brand disrepute, risk of disruption of plans due to unavailability at the last minute, compounded with a security nightmare was simply too much to stomach.

    Remember, these are business men not politicians, generals or diplomats, any business board would have taken the same decision.

  • POSTED BY royalflesh on | January 23, 2010, 14:09 GMT

    granted the situation was definitly mismanaged. the franchises should have made up their minds before hand about pakistani players. but you guys should understand that most of these team owners are bollywood stars who have a good fan base in pakistan so intentionaly humiliating pakistanis is not in their intrest. Franchises like kkr have excellent relations with pak players. if you listen to shohaib akthar's interview on youtube he said he was paid his dues even after the pakistani goverment dint let pak players play in IPL 2. shah rukh wasnt contractually obligated to do that. one more thing most pakistanis tend to assume is that the security situation is more or less the same. but infiltration is at its highest and the whole nation has been put on high alert. All Indian air carriers operating in south asia have recently been put on high alert as well.

  • POSTED BY arshadmanzoor on | January 23, 2010, 14:03 GMT

    Hi. It's purely owner's discretion whom they want to buy for their franchise. But If the franchises were so apprehensive about getting Pakistani players with respect to visas, etc (although they had obtained all NOC's and even some of them had already got visas), they should have said that at the outset. Why were they asked to apply by Mr. Modi??? Even if they had applied why they were short listed for auction????? After all the Ind0-pak situation hasn't deteriorated recently.. at least they could have been withdrawn before the actual auction took place????? It sounds of callousness and lack of respect, both from IPL and franchises.And today Mr. Modi explains that no players from Kenya netherland, Zimbabwe, etc was selected.none of them have gone any way close to being T-20 world champion superstars. Also all the test playing nations, except Pakistan are represented already in IPL (apart from the ones who have rejected the cash rich league). So he can't say that no one from Australia

  • POSTED BY Golandaaz on | January 23, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    Very well said sir. I agree with your views completely and thanks for not taking a stand on the issue. However I do think all parties involved should take the blame for not planning for the eventuality that this could happen. I would love to know did anyone ask the question. "What if no Pakistani is picked up at the auction?". It was everyone's job to ask the question including the Indian Government. What will be its implications. And the way in which IPL, the franchises and the government are giving responses to the media, it smacks of insensitivity towards the issue. Its not about if the outrage is justified but its about acknowledging that the public is outraged in Pakistan and some comments are simply insensitive to that

  • POSTED BY getyaas on | January 23, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    As a Cricket fan i wanted to ask the franchisees on what basis they made the decision .first players availability when pak players were ready to play whole tournament and secondly about the security issue Australian players like Martyn has been selected then and some players are already there from Australia .Its a Discrimination against pak players and decision was taken based on politics completely.i mean u cant ignore the best T20 players likes of afridi, Razzaq, Imran Nazir ,Umar Gul who are top in this Format and take kaif, Dravid Laxman, etc all of them are test players who hardly plays in ODI cri .And its not about money a player would want instead of cricket.its humiliating for players first to be auctioned then axed completely When Pak players are the most demanded players from AUS ,ENG ,for T20 format but not iNDIAN players. con IPL is definitely the game for test plyrs like Dravid Kaif Laxman sACHIN gANGULY so please boycott this tournment please dont watch ths time pak fans

  • POSTED BY ajaym_believer on | January 23, 2010, 13:41 GMT

    Zaheerahmed - India faced a similar situation during World Series where none of the Indian stars were invited. Gavaskar, Vishwanath and the spin quartet were on top of their game. While a keen sense of disappointment was felt, no effegies were burnt, no over the top statements were made either by the players, politicians or ordinary citizens. I just can't understand what the fuss is all about. If it irks the Pakistanis so much then start your own league and don't call or bid for Indians.

  • POSTED BY avssrs on | January 23, 2010, 13:39 GMT

    "Posted by Zaheerahmed on (January 23 2010, 12:12 PM GMT) ... had it been a Pakistan Premier League and the players involved would have been Sachin, Yuvraj, Harbhajan & Dhoni."

    Zaheer, if this was about the PPL and thugs from India (we have lots) had stepped into Karachi to execute innocent people for maximum media coverage, then our players would've been boycotted too.

    I understand that most Pakistanis do not condone indiscriminate jihadi acts. But the fact remains that most Pakistanis did not say enough against the jihadi threat when it was directed outwards towards other countries. You allowed this nasty rabid dog to grow in your backyard, and you didn't think it was a big deal because it was other people it was biting not you. And now 1) it's started biting you and you can't control it even if you wanted to, and 2) the consequences are at your doorstep - political and also commercial as in this case.

    Personally, I'd like Pak players to play but it makes sense that they aren't.

  • POSTED BY Shrini on | January 23, 2010, 13:29 GMT

    I feel no cricket should be played with pakistan for the time being following what happened in mumbai on 26/11. It is unsafe for players of both nations.

  • POSTED BY OttawaRocks on | January 23, 2010, 13:22 GMT

    To answer Zaheerahmed, i.e., what are our opinions if this were flipped around such that we had the Pakistan Premier League and the players were star Indian players, I would say its STILL a private matter. A callous result, yes, but its STILL not worthy of a national incident. The responsibility for this callousness lies jointly between the owners and IPL for putting up a STUPID bidding process without any thought placed on the outcomes. Although I sympathize with the Pakistan players, at the end of the day, the owners live in a democracy and are entitled to make whatever decisions they want, stupid or not. Additionally, I just don't care because we're talking about RICH cricket stars CRYING over not getting lakhs of US$ more. Had it been the Haiti earthquake victims I would have been MORALLY outraged although STILL respectful of the owners democratic right. But with rich cricket players? Get a life.

  • POSTED BY killer587 on | January 23, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Well ive read many articles by indian politicians and analysts all emphasizing on one point that it was a strictly business oriented decision and govt of India has nothing to do with it. Now the arguments all of them are presenting are the Pvt business,Corporotions,Profit Motives,dividends,ROI,business risk and bla bla bla....What they are delibeartely missing is the very definition of word GOVERNMENT..A govt exists for the welfare at large rather profits for few...and it intervenes as a regulatory body where the interst of the community collides with the intersts of the few. And Indian Govt esp notoriouly known for its regulatory role of local and international business corporations(nationalization). How come this time the interest of few dozen ppl overshadows the interst of 1.5 billion ppl around both sides of the border?. I would like Mr Gupta to accpet if its the negligence of the very duty of Indian Govt instead.

  • POSTED BY Isaacking on | January 23, 2010, 13:20 GMT

    As an Indian I want to believe that this was a economical decision taken by the franchises but the entire story is proven wrong one my statement made my Mr.Modi after December 10th 2009 which was a official ruling that Pakistani Cricketers must approach Him directly & must not employ an agent.

    If Pakistani cricketers had agent involved in it they may have known what was going on behind the scene, this safety measure was taken away from them by the Commissioner of IPL (we know who).Hence we can say this was the desire of one Mr.Modi to play his game perfectly.

    By doing this He had made sure that next time around players will see that they are available for entire IPL & He has put out the Indian Government in bad light for making the IPL 2 happen in South Africa.

  • POSTED BY khanlala707 on | January 23, 2010, 13:19 GMT

    The problem is not about being a private tournament, the problem is of sportsmanship, "So called" world largest democracy and world biggest cricket board BCCI and the very informative column writers are trying to make a nonsense decision sensible with some very un logical comments ( Height of STUPIDITY). Initially they said there is a security risk, If INDIA cant provide security for players when thy are playing for thier teams (Frachisees) I am wondering how they will manage to do that during the world cup matches when those guys will play in their green shirts? secondly if it is business matter, then who are HARSHA and GUPTA to say pakistani channels should not ban IPL, It is in thier business interest why waste money, resources and time on some thing orgnaised by so biased, narrow minded and people with hypocritical nature. We play and watch sport to built up moral, sportsman ship and competitivness within the field....While INDIA HAS lost thier ground on all these FRONTS

  • POSTED BY Quazar on | January 23, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    @SourojitDhar : Well said, man! That's exactly how most people I know feel too. Any emerging / established power needs to act with sensitivity and grace...and I too am very disappointed with the path that the IPL (read: Modi) and the franchisees chose. And the sad thing is they have now become so defensive that they refuse to recognize the fallout on India-Pak relations...even now they are not reaching out to the Pakistan players and fans to try and repair relations. But I'm really happy to see that most of Indian civil society (including print media editors via their editorials) are criticizing the IPL on this count...so hopefully, in the future the IPL will display more sensitivity and statesmanship. Cricket and the people of Indian (and Pakistan) deserve it.

  • POSTED BY RajitD on | January 23, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    We will miss the exciting Pakistan players in IPL3. The point which Harsha and Jayaditya are making, but not strongly enough, is that the situation could have been handled much better and more graciously. The IPL board has to take responsibility, since they invited the players, and should have foreseen the impact not-picking of Pak players could have had. Maybe they could have discussed this during their Bangkok meeting.

  • POSTED BY KP_84 on | January 23, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    I will say one thing about this logic of Pak players not being picked because of availability: what about promotion? Playing cricket isn't the only use for superstar players these days. KP and Freddie didn't play very often in IPL Season 2, but were valuable to their franchises as marketing tools (like David Beckham was to the LA Galaxy in the MLS). Surely a player like Shahid Afridi could have been used in the same way?

  • POSTED BY spiritwithin on | January 23, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    francise's had shown interests in 67 players thats y 67 players were there in da auction(y its being assumed dat only pak players were specifically requested by francise's??) but there were only 10 international slots which basically means other players had to miss out..many proven performers were not even selected like sarwan but his countryman pollard and roach got astronomical bids....only one unknown englishman was selected overlooking swann,trott etc ....so definitely performance is not da only criterion...so how can anybody expect da francise's to select a player just bcoz he was invited???

  • POSTED BY 123_4 on | January 23, 2010, 13:03 GMT

    Dear Bozo Supporters of IPL descision

    How could you say this is pure business, and that it's justified. The pakistanis have won and been runners up of both t20 world cups and even if most aren't chosen, at 2 or 3 should have been. This was a shameless act, based on politics and could further worsen ties betwwen India and Pakistan. Eventhough I am a proud Indian, I am saying this as it is embarrasing and many like this may help give them an oppurtunity again.

  • POSTED BY RonG on | January 23, 2010, 12:58 GMT

    I am an Indian fan, but I blame the IPL management for poisoning relationship between India and Pak. It is simple, if they did not even want to bid on Pak players why make them jump through hoops to get them into the auction.

    Also the Indian Govt statement could have additionally said that "we are just as dissapointed in not seeing any Pak players as the Indian cricket fans" - unfortunately they are not known for their communication skills.

  • POSTED BY ShahidAfridiFan on | January 23, 2010, 12:57 GMT

    I still dont understand how the IPL can be considered a private league. The ICC has to provide a space for it in the FTP, any players who want to play have to have clearance from their members from the icc board. any players associated with other private leagues get banned from playing international cricket, yet this "private" league has the right to strip players from playing in other leagues?

    look at the ICL it was also a private league which many of the pakistani players enjoyed playing in but how can the icc ban players from the icl league when it doesnt for the ipl? its obvious that the icc considers the ipl an official league so should have some control over it

  • POSTED BY ChinmayD on | January 23, 2010, 12:50 GMT

    "Can somebody from these so called professionals and movie stars answer why did they want to put Pak players on the auction at the first place?"

    For the same reason they wanted 40-44 other players in the auction. I am not privy to that reason though.

    "Also how can somebody say that BCCI and ICC have no say or nothing to do with IPL? Isn't IPL one of the BCCI/ICC approved competitions?"

    County Cricket is an ECB/ICC approved competition. You want ICC to tell Yorkshire who they should field next season? Neither BCCI nor ICC have no right to tell the franchises to buy someone, because at the end of the day, the franchises are the ones spending money, not BCCI, not ICC.

    Methings Pakistani players are just greedy and are unhappy that they are missing out on a huge pay check.

  • POSTED BY sajis on | January 23, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    My question to Hersha and Jayaditya is that if IPL is a private franchise and nothing to do with BCCI & ICC then why the fight between IPL and ICL was handled by BCCI and ICC. Pakistani and other countries' players were banned from playing international cricket for participating in a private franchise ICL. Why did ICC get involved there? What is the difference between IPL and ICL apart from the fact that IPL is backed by BCCI and ICL not. I hope ICC and other cricket playing nations realize sooner rather than later that too much power in the hands of one board is not good for cricket.

  • POSTED BY haroonalvi on | January 23, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    As about the Pakistani cricketers, you can love them, you can hate them, but you cant ignore them. And if you do it, its not going to easy and uneventful (as what happened with IPL). They are the world champions, the best ranked t20 team with the highest win percentage, and are currently enjoying the longest winning streaks in t20 internationals. IPL made a mistake here, and i am sure that its consequences are going to be there even after several years pass by. Best of luck to all the stakeholders. A lot can happen from here on. The possibility of a Pakistani backed ICL should also not be ruled out.

  • POSTED BY essel1 on | January 23, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    As a Pakistani and a buisnessman i understand that the IPL teams wouldnt like to pay big money for someone who may or may not be available, but again as a Pakistani I was outraged that the Pakistani cricket board stooped to follow Lalit Modi by banning its ICL players....If a player can join IPL why shouldnt he be allowed to join ICL. Pakistan cricket board at that time should have supported their own players instead of being a slave to the wishes of Mr. Modi and because of that I think Lalit Modi should have made a pre-condition on all the frachises of the IPL to take atleast one cricketer each from Pakistan...those are my thoughts but then I may be wrong. Cheers (essel1@yahoo.com)

  • POSTED BY djarian1 on | January 23, 2010, 12:13 GMT

    Indian Pakistan should look beyond cricket. There is alot more there than just the mere ball play.

  • POSTED BY Zaheerahmed on | January 23, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    My question to Harsha and Gupta who for the last two days have been trying unconvincingly that this is just a private league where owner has the right to make business decisions and have been lecturing us on morality, ethics and tolerance that what would have their opinions had it been a Pakistan Premier League and the players involved would have been Sachin, Yuvraj, Harbhajan & Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY MFNadeem on | January 23, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Dear Mr Gupta. Its not about the oust of the Pakistani players, but its the way this whole drama was directed. As a Pakistan cricket fan, it has really hurt me and people like me. I watched two previous episodes of IPL with passion, but I will boycott this third farce due to the humiliation I felt as a Pakistani. Here are my points:

    a) If the franchise had problems with the security of the players, they could have done it long before the actual drama was performed.

    b) People like Priety zinta say why Pakistani players are furious when some other players from countries like BD, were also not chosen. Is it fair to compare World Champs with BD???

    c) There is a talk of shiv-sina and other extremist groups giving MODI life threats in case Pakistani players were chosen.

    d) Don't worry, Pakistan will keep following the old maxim and keep beating TEAM-INDIA whenever they get chance. Just look at the overall cricket records. Recent episode being TODAY'S WIN IN Q4 of U19 WC.

    God bless you.

  • POSTED BY Zaheerahmed on | January 23, 2010, 12:07 GMT

    By suggesting that "You can't have the dough and the dignity" Mr. Gupta has come out openly that once you sign IPL contract you should be ready to be treated the way your franchises choses to treat you. No one will buy the argument of that the question mark against availability of Pakistani players was too much of a commercial risk to take. The Govt of Pakistan has cleared them to appear in this edition of IPL and considering the fact that unlike India there is no political group in Pakistan that opposes bilateral sporting ties there were no signs that they would not be able to show their tremendous sporting talent to Indian public. He has himself admitted that nothing untoward between the relations of two states happened lately. Just to let him know that hiring a professional sportsman is never without perils. Can he or Lalit Modi guarantee that the Australian or Englishman or for that matter cricketers from other nations would remain fit till the tournament is over?

  • POSTED BY thewombat on | January 23, 2010, 11:54 GMT

    Jayaditya, you sound like a nice guy, but your logic that no single party can be blamed is poor: The facts are-the Pakistan players, who are the most qualified of any in world for 20-20, on ability and results, are not selected for IPL3. This is because the franchises don't believe they'll get visas (which by the way, if true, would be inappropriate, as they are cricketers, and certainly not security threats, who shouldn't be caught up in nation politics). Either the franchises guess (and that's what it is) is correct, in which case it's the Indian foreign ministry's fault, or they're wrong, and it's the franchises fault. These are facts that can't be disputed. Good journalists don't dispute facts, they interpret them. Thus your job is to decide which of the two parties is at fault, and justify your position, not some illogical 'oh it's nobody's fault' position that can't be justified. I suggest you re-write your article and do this. Regards.

  • POSTED BY 200ondebut on | January 23, 2010, 11:51 GMT

    There were no English players chosen either (Morgan is Irish) - but do you see the english players or ECB belly aching about the injustice or how this is somehow a slur on the honour of their Country? Perhaps the story of the boy who cried wolf has not yet reached Pakistan - if it had they may realise that spinning this into a race/religion argument just falls on deaf ears. There is a saying "that you reap what you sow" - which could be applied in equal measures to the players who have missed out and the organisers of the IPL/BCCI.

  • POSTED BY reality_check on | January 23, 2010, 11:42 GMT

    I partially disagree with you Jayaditya. You mention the magic date of Nov 16th last year. If Modi had said "Sorry guys, can't invite you to IPL until the political tension between Ind/Pak calms down" instead of asking the players to get NOC's and subsequently jumping thru all the hoops, we wouldn't be talking about this now. Nothing has changed between Ind/Pak relations between Nov 16th and now. This is where the Pak outrage is directed, kinda like inviting someone to your house then treating them with utter disrespect. Virtue of hospitality is still deep rooted in Pak culture. IPL organizers and owners are shrewd people, it's not that they woke up on auction day from deep coma and went "Wow... we can't have Pak players here". I can't blame any player for looking out for his financial well being in IPL but I will blame Pak players for being naive to think that IPL, being a private venture, will afterall be above politics. Seeing from outside, this is a big negative on India's image.

  • POSTED BY mutual on | January 23, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    Its more than making money dear. This is so disrespectful.

  • POSTED BY Crichetfan on | January 23, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    People from pakistan particular should behave in a matured manner. Why there is so much of hue & cry for not picking the pak players in the IPL auction? As eveyone knows this is purely a private tournament organized by IPL and the selection of players are purely dependent by the franchise - (which everyone knows) and Why PCB is accusing BCCI & Indian gov. This is highly stupidity. No one talks about Lalit modi's broad mind of extending the deadlines time & again to accomodate pak playes. Why are they not talking about that. If really the pak players are to be neglected IPL could have neglected at that time itself stating that PCB has not given the NOC for which no one could have raised any issues.

    Instead of crying like this spend quality time in developing your country and start your own league and invite palyers from other countries. This is high time for pak to look them at the mirror and correct themselves instead of playing dirty ploitics like this.

  • POSTED BY Umair_umair on | January 23, 2010, 11:16 GMT

    To SourojitDhar: Your Voice is a like fresh air, in an otherwise suffocating environment. Thanks

  • POSTED BY rohan024 on | January 23, 2010, 11:15 GMT

    This is the problem with our (Indian) intellectualism sated journalism. They will go out of the way to express solidarity with pakistanis and ll not talk the real thing. The fact is (and all franchises understand this fact) that regardless of what Razzaq/Afridi may feel or say, Pakistanis players are not popular in India. Infact after 26/11 the populism in India is to boycott Pakistanis on all front as the general feeling is of disgust towards Pakistan. Miandad, who married his son to the India's most wanted criminal, has the audacity to say pakistan players should play in IPL. Why ? Pakistani players may have won the world cup and congratulations to them for that, but all these players come with some baggage including individualism or scant respect to the team. I want to know which captain of IPL franchises would like to have Afridi or Asif in their team after the way they behaved & performed in IPL 1 ? Time for introspection won't be a bad idea for Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY IndiaRulesCric on | January 23, 2010, 11:08 GMT

    The franchises could not guarantee the safety of the Pak players (as it is their responsibility) Also I would like to add is if you are so hurt then why cry on other countries events if you can afford to, why don't you start your own league and make it a success like IPL...it would benefit your country and the world cricket as well...goodluck

  • POSTED BY mayuri78 on | January 23, 2010, 10:57 GMT

    I agree with the writer. I can't understand why we are giving it such an importance. Its a phony private league. Thats it. Having said it, but in all honesty no body would believe that all the 11 players were not capable enough to be selected in any franchise. Well Mr. Modi, here is another profit taking option, these 11 players as a new team in IPL 3 and I bet no team will be able to compete against them.

  • POSTED BY Mudassir11Hussain on | January 23, 2010, 10:52 GMT

    Forget IPL...its worthless to waste time on this Cricket event cum Circus! PK players should learn and vow not to take part in it again.. PK cricket lovers just simply ignore this circus as they did last time... Thats it..! But do Remember that it is INDIAN P League!

  • POSTED BY ChinmayD on | January 23, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    IPL shortlisted 66 players. The franchises had "expressed interest" towards all of them.Only 11 of them were eventually taken. This means 55 players on whom some or the other franchise had expressed interest were rejected. This included the 12 Pakistani players.

    I don't see the other 43 rejected players complaining about this though. Actually, I see only about 3-4 pakistani players complaining, so make it the other 51-52 players who are not complaining.

    May be Sohail Tanvir and Umer Gul have some cause to feel disappointed after this auction. But the truth is, that only two franchises needed fast bowlers, and they opted for Bond and Parnell instead of Tanvir and Gul.

    As far as Afridi is concerned; he may be a game changer, but he is one player I would definitely not want in my team. No surprises there.

    All other players are mediocre or too inexperienced.

  • POSTED BY Tariqmahmood on | January 23, 2010, 10:42 GMT

    I don't know why they did like that but it is all against the true cricket and I hope if politics involve then soon the IPL will finish. And it can't grow up any more.

  • POSTED BY Hawk_Pk on | January 23, 2010, 10:42 GMT

    todays win of pakistani u 19 team is a slap on lalit modi and Co's face

  • POSTED BY khicoach on | January 23, 2010, 10:41 GMT

    I am from Pakistan. Gupta has given a very balanced view. He's hit the nail on the head when he says that the Pak players have every right to feel short-changed. It is also correct that the IPL handled the matter badly. In fact with Modi's initial high-handedness, the players should have realized that IPL is not too convinced about having the Pak players in the leagues. Many times during negotiations one needs the ability to be able to predict the outcome so as to avoid humiliation in the future. Sadly with so many inefficient officials at the helm of the PCB, we cannot expect rational and sensible decisions. Only those decisions are made which these officials believe will extend their corrupt stay in power. That is the malaise that affects all our country.

    The Indians have been more successful. Imagine a poor man asking a rich man for his daughter's hand in marriage & you'll get the picture.

    Pakistanis, wake up. Otherwise the world will pass u by without a wink. Nobody cares.

  • POSTED BY mazcaan on | January 23, 2010, 10:39 GMT

    who is asking you to sympathize with our players, don't need it. And what plight are you talking about, they are the world champions, its IPL management and indian politics which is absolutely pathetic, WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS, your loss they won't be playing in your country.

  • POSTED BY philco on | January 23, 2010, 10:38 GMT

    Whoever pays the piper calls the tune. Maybe the Pakistani players bank managers are behind the outrage?

    Get over it and get a life.

  • POSTED BY ww113 on | January 23, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    So what if a few players will not be able to make money in India ? Why were they bending over backwards to go play in the circus called the IPL ? They should have known what was coming.Clever on Modi's part to handle them in such a way that there is no ambiguity left anymore.But it would have been much more preferable if Modi and co had just told the Pakistan board that their players would not be welcome.I don't care about the IPL and I'm glad these players have no option now but to devote all their energies to Pakistan cricket.

  • POSTED BY i2i1 on | January 23, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    Loosers....Still no one can see who the culprits are. With so much outrage, why cant the IPL franchises just say that WE DID NOT WANT THE PAKI PLAYERS TO BE PART OF THE IPL. Finish. Availability and visa issues is all crap. In Champions League,09 Yasir Arafat played for some team. If he was given visa then why cant the champions of T20 could be given visas. Y did they include Pakistanis in the auction. At that time they could have come up with all the excuses of Visas and security. They bleady wanted to embarrass the pakis and they did. After all this episode "LET THE RIVALRY CONTINUE"

  • POSTED BY alteridom on | January 23, 2010, 10:28 GMT

    @plsn Pakistanis are the current world champions of this format of game for your kind information

  • POSTED BY boooonnie on | January 23, 2010, 10:06 GMT

    The I in IPL stands for Indian not International. The competition is created by Indians business trying to make money first and foremost. Concern over the well being of other cricket nations and their sensitivities is a distant second concern for these people. Us other cricketing nations should not take the acceptance or non-acceptance of IPL to heart. THE IPL IS NOT THE STANDARD BEARER OF CRICKET AROUND THE WORLD! The recent big bash in Aust proved there are other competitions breaking out around the world which players like Afridi are more then welcome in!

  • POSTED BY mriaz on | January 23, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    its correct that the boycott of pak players has nothing to do with the politics but the one should read between the lines. There is a strong anti pak sentiments developing in masses for the pakistan political instability and its involvement in cross border terrorism (echoed by many countries) unless proved otherwise. So franchise had their right to pick who they are comfortable and without issues. secondly, everyboy nows in world about pak players ego and their character for not accepting a leader. We know they put their self and personal grudge with captain first and country pride comes last for them. They cannot be called team players..no doubt they are genius as an individuals. So why to have players with this attitude and spoil your dressing room atmosphere. I can understand their fierce reaction as they will be losing dollars. The same reaction I have not seen from them to unite for their national team. I am with franchisers with their stand and no one should make complain.

  • POSTED BY ikr4m.17 on | January 23, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    A pathetic move from the IPL authorities and the BCCI which has made the relationship worse between the two nations. It is really sad for the franchises that they have not included any Pakistani players, even though players like Afridi, Gul, Tanvir, Aamer, Nazir and the list goes on.. must be the top picks for any IPL team. Respect has gone down more for IPL, BCCI, and the Indian govt and its time for them to stop coming up with lame excuses i.e. security issues, wasting money on players or purely business move. An exclusion of players from a team who are the T20 champions of 2009 is nothing but a pure conspiracy and IPL has just lost its respect, and viewers from all over the world. IPL season 2 was a waste without any Pakistani players, and IPL 3 will be worse without them. This shows how Lalit Modi has no sense in cricket and sees cricket just as 'pure business'.

  • POSTED BY Ars_J on | January 23, 2010, 9:38 GMT

    Word of PCB minister ""However, the inclusion of Pakistani players in the IPL's final auction list, released on January 6, was on the basis of specific requests received from the franchises - every player on that list had to be officially sought by at least one franchise. "" . One may argue that there is stil a chance of player is not being selected as many other player of different teams have been rejected but not even a single from the list that have been created by franchise themsleve that too from t20 worldchamp team ... its just very clear and disapointing too...

  • POSTED BY mazcaan on | January 23, 2010, 9:36 GMT

    PURE ENVY! 64 YEARS of independence and not a single Imran Khan, Waseem Akram, Waqar Younus, Shoaib Akhtar or Shahid Afridi. They can create the most expensive cricket league but we will still beat them at the game. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!

  • POSTED BY KiwiRocker- on | January 23, 2010, 9:30 GMT

    I am tired of reading all these excuses. Mate! Creation can not be bigger than a creator. Whole world knows that IPL circus is an offshoot of BCCI and BCCI is a toothless organisation that gets all the nods from the Indian Government. Indian Government has intervened under pressure from right wing parties. BCCI can learn a thing or two from PCB who provided an excellent security to Indian players on their visits while Pakistan team was threatened in India in 1999. Anyway, India has hardly won anything of note and recently was dumped from ICC champion's trophy and today Pakistan Under.19 knocked them out. We are happy to win on the field. IPL is anyway going down. Its matter of time before Lalit winds up his shop. Australia's big bash has far better quality and ironically no Indian was invited to play there albeit two Pakistanis were!

  • POSTED BY Sunny_cold on | January 23, 2010, 9:13 GMT

    come on guys how it is possible that they let go a chance to humiliate pakistan ... first indian goverment putting all blames on pakistan ... 2nd indiin media is running becoz of anti pakistan policies they broadcast more news about what happened in pakistan then what happened in india ... now ipl an other way to insult pakistan .. sorry to those who may get hurt after reading my post but what is true is true stop singing a song of friendship and peace with pakistan we all know whta is in ur heart and mind about pakistan ... we all respeat india and we hope u all also start to give some respect to pakistan

  • POSTED BY neutralview on | January 23, 2010, 9:08 GMT

    Mr. Gupta who are you trying to convince pakistani cricket fans or indian ones, what need of getting out-ragious on pakistani masses outrage, I agreed it is yours League and you have the right whom to play and whom not to play in your IPL, but no outrage in pakistan if IPL should announce even at the start of auction 'Paki's are not allowed in IPL-3' how much hurt absence of pak players in IPL-3 I hope , like IPL-2 when Pakistan bcumz T20 Champion.

  • POSTED BY Ahmadsana on | January 23, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    The message sent by this drama is that India is not safe for cricket. As Shilpa Sheti, Lalit and Preti Zinta said that they cant provide protection from some fundamentalists in India, even they have to change some venues, the question is how safe is india to hold World cup?

  • POSTED BY Khan-T20 on | January 23, 2010, 8:55 GMT

    Modi got afraid of the Hindu activist groups Shev Sena and others, who also had set ablaze his home on fire some time earlier.

  • POSTED BY KhuMir on | January 23, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    And pReNUp. Democracy isn't in cricket. It is in constitutions. Unless the IPL is controlled by the government. Which you say it isn't.

  • POSTED BY hmalik on | January 23, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    The Pakistan team has always been like a pirate ship without a compass, unconventional and directionless. All the controversy and conspiracy theories aside, this IPL fiasco, I believe, has given them a huge motivation to play their hearts out during the upcoming T20 World Cup. This motivation is something they've been lacking lately, esp. under the current Test and ODI captain.

  • POSTED BY mani199 on | January 23, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    Im agreed to u Mr. Roamer. Gupta ge got a healthy cheque from Mr. Modi. Its clearly showing. Just imagine those 11 palyers and then im Chellinging u Mr. Gupta n Mr. Modi, that none of ur franchise can compete those 11 players, can u? the fact is that u r paling for this. Im agree with Taimoor, if u have concerns of availability, then ipl should have nt been short listed them. it really hurts dear. I can just one thing, Mr, MODI , none of ur franchise can compete those 11.

  • POSTED BY Pakistan-ZindaBad on | January 23, 2010, 8:00 GMT

    It was really sad and disappointing to see those auctions, I blame no one but only lalit modi, he is behind all this non sense, every one was well informed that what was going to happen in auctions, To Pakistan players, they should never join any of such bizar leagues who talk differet and act compeletly opposite. I feel it will be good enough chellenge and motivation have sparked in all Pakistanies to once again reach the finals of coming T20 for the third time in row and go on to win for the 2nd time. Let all the world to work hard together in lousy tournaments like "ipl" in order to be supper natural like the Pakistanies are, but I doubht if that gonna happen.

    Congrats to Pakistan U19 team for knocking out india from the tournament, I feel we have already won this U19 World Cup 2010, no matter what happens in next one or two remaining matches for Pakistan.

    Cheers to Pakistan, indians and the world.

  • POSTED BY plsn on | January 23, 2010, 7:51 GMT

    Why should India keep on giving excuses if Pakistanis are hurt? Yes it is bad not to take any Pakistani. But what did they contribute when thery were selected? It is high time they stop whinging and start to behave like a matured nation. After all they formed their nation at the same time as India. Their leaders do nothing to promote the sport. Why are Indian leaders being blamed? Their players are not Indian!

  • POSTED BY jayray999 on | January 23, 2010, 7:41 GMT

    @raskalamindit wrote: "All i have to say is, if it was already decided that none of the Pakistani players would not be picked, then why waste their time and short list them." Because IPL franchises are evil and profit driven and want to have every option available...thank god. Has it occurred to you that if they were benevolent and loss driven they'd be a public sector undertaking? On a different note, haven't you met people who, after passing three rounds of job interviews in distant cities are eliminated in the fourth? Considering they missed the application deadline, the Pakistani contingent should be grateful they reached Round 2.

  • POSTED BY Jhammatian on | January 23, 2010, 7:39 GMT

    Lame excuses are given by IPL authorities that Its all decision of Franchises , so, the the thing to be noted here that Why franchises not included those persons which will give them more profit? Lets suppose i m a franchise holder so obviously i'll go that players which have high rating and in form, and thats y i'll have more profit. Afridi, can change scenerio of a game in just few minutes, Gul leading T20 wicket taker and had a big hand in winning World Cup, Umar akmal,Kamran Akmal and Imran Nazir , former ICL player and had a big role in winning of ICL from Lahore Badshah. So, How could any franchise ignored these type of talent ? Its unbelivable ... Very Disappointing .....

  • POSTED BY Quazar on | January 23, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    Sorry, but Ramiz Raja and Gaurav Kalra have written the 2 best pieces on this issue.

  • POSTED BY Nido4u on | January 23, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    Pakistan U19 have won the quarter final by defeating the defending champions India by 2 wickets, yuppy...

  • POSTED BY Adnan_80 on | January 23, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    Infact, the matter is not that simple that franchises do not buy Pakistani players but we all know in advance and already published in newspapers before auction that BCCI or specifically Lalit Modi had advised or instruct franchises not to buy Pakistani Players. This create anger and named as conspiracy.

  • POSTED BY Nido4u on | January 23, 2010, 7:19 GMT

    Being a Pakistani i am a bit disappointed with non selection of Pakistani cricketers for IPL3, that will reduce the charm for Pakistanis in season 3 of the IPL. But i guess the players are to be blamed at the end coz why were they so mad to play in the IPL, and this wont be helpful for better relationship among the neighbors. Only thing that hurts from modi is that if they were not to select the players, why they enlisted them for the auction. Pakistani cricketers are the T20 champions don't they deserve some respect?

  • POSTED BY vinodkd99 on | January 23, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    Twenty20 a virus, says Miandad : Well can Mr Miandad reply as to why he comes up with these sort of comments only at the time of any happening in IPL. Last year when Yuvraj and Rohit took a few Hat-Tricks, he came up with possibility of match fixing. This time round when Pakistan players have not been selected for IPL3, he again came up with the comments that all of us know. 1. Did he curse T20 when Pakistan won the T20 world cup or NOT? Or is it only a case of Sour Grapes? Why did he not come with the statement a few days before IPL bidding? 2. In the same interview, he said that IPL has weakened other teams and hence India is winning now more than before and even referred to McGrath and Warne. Well in that case even in the absence of Lee, why Pakistan lost 3-0 to the so called weak side and even Ponting made some of the craziest declaration (454-5) as MCG though he had plenty of time. Dilshan, Raina, De Villiers have been better players after playing in IPL, I suppose.

  • POSTED BY Peace_ on | January 23, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    "Humiliation is merely the flip side of the million-dollar contract".. Golden words.. It clearly represents your thinking. Putting yourself on an auction list doesn't mean that you have given token to someone to disgrace and abuse you. If there are no ethical values to consider then your can be whole heartedly accepted.

  • POSTED BY GG493 on | January 23, 2010, 7:08 GMT

    further. I doubt that all the 8 franchises discussed this isue befor Auction and collectively decided not to Buy Pakistani players. Because if they would have done that then why would they havenot discussed other players and sortd out beforhand among themselves who will buy which player by some Method. This way every one would have been able to buy the players at there base prices and they franchises would not have to shelve 6 to 10 times the base price. The fact that Franchises competed for the players & payed hue prices proves that they had not discussed among themselves. it was a coincidence that all 8 franchises had availability as the main criteria for selection & used it to finalize there pick from the 64 available players and unfortunately all the 11 pakistani players have to be eliminated from the selection due to uncerainity in availability. If Slots would have been more say 30 then things would have been different. then franchises could have planB with Pak players.

  • POSTED BY SourojitDhar on | January 23, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    I beg you all... Just for one minute, ONE MINUTE, can we please stop thinking we were born in India or Australia or Pakistan? Can we for ONE MOMENT think of ourselves as world citizens? Can we stop this IPL pettiness and bottom-line driven exclusivity? As Indians can we think of Pakistanis as our own brothers and sisters? As our own family? Despite, fears of terrorism and Lalit Modi... CAN WE BE MORE INCLUSIVE TO ALL WHO LOVE CRICKET and want to make a decent living playing the game?

    I think we can... Cheers!

  • POSTED BY fnoble on | January 23, 2010, 7:05 GMT

    What is the fuzz about who cares pakis here. Pakis are not need here.

  • POSTED BY Peace_ on | January 23, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    I must say.. Your article is full of biases and you are somehow trying to defend the deicion of IPL but the truth of the matter is that they have intenionally tried to disgrace the whole pakistani cricket team and isolate them from world cicket. The matters look not that simple as you presented in your article.

    If the franchises knew that there are problems in theri inclusion or they just dont want to see Pakistani players playing in IPL then they should not have initialy requested the 11 players in the auction list. There were clear reports in the media before auction what Lalit modi and his team was trying to do. His previous actions clarified, what his agenda was.

    Secondly they have kept Wasim as the Coach? Is he not Pakistani? No problems with him?

    I think IPL, BCCI and higher ups.. All are on the same note.. There single agenda is to disgrace Pakistani team in whatever way possible. I can smell that thing in your article also.

  • POSTED BY Paddle_Sweep on | January 23, 2010, 7:02 GMT

    Excellent article.At last a sensible article by a Indian journalist.Hats off to you.

  • POSTED BY Rajiv_NS on | January 23, 2010, 7:01 GMT

    I can see where the team owners are coming from. Can the pakistani govt assure that no terrorists will attack india from their soil like on 26/11? Or can the indian govt assure that the indian security will thwart any such attempt? What'll happen if something like this were to happen, and tempers flare up on both ends (Remember, it was pak govt that refused to allow pakistani players from playing in IPL-2)? What if some nutcase in the crowd decides to take his anger on some pakistani player in the outfield? And what about all the bad publicity that the team will attract just because it has pakistanis on their rooster (no matter what some in the media say, pakistanis are -NOT- exactly popular here)? And umar gul/afridi/asif didn't exactly cover themselves with glory in IPL-1 when they made controversial statements after the tournament deriding their captains ( Afridi - Laxman, Gul - Ganguly, Asif - weed).

  • POSTED BY Roamer on | January 23, 2010, 7:01 GMT

    I guess Mr. Gupta must be getting a good fat cheque from Mr. Modi after writing this article ..... if not then I guess you also got mugged by Modi as well :)

  • POSTED BY Taimoordilsher on | January 23, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    Yeah.... not easy if u r an indian but if u see from a third umpire's eye matter is crystal clear ...... intentional effort by Indian govt, IPL, BCCI & franchise to degrade and defame pakistanis. How does it feel if i invite you to pakistan and then when u r just about to board your plane tells u i can't entertain u.....aaaahhhh ..... hurts isn't it .... Mr. Gupta its all about INTENTION and not the ACT that counts. Why to even ask them for their availability at first place knowing how dangerous circumstances are prevailing among the two countries. For the sake of argument one, two or at the most three franchise could have made this mistake not all of em .... your govt. doesn't allow its team to tour pakistan in late 90's and early 00's now u r saying the govt. is not involved .... must be living in a fools paradise.

  • POSTED BY HEARTOUT on | January 23, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    Gupta Ji, Why All indian writers are showing indirect sympathy to Mr.Mody and BCCI.................we have read enough views from Indian perspective and wanted to see some neutral comments on this issue..........Like Tony Greig and if I would to see straight opinion i should call Ian Chappel.........No more indian comments please.............

  • POSTED BY GG493 on | January 23, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    What I see is that IPL prepared a list of all the players who have registred with them and gave it to 8 franchises to shortlist. franchises shortlisted and handed back the list to IPL. new short listed list had around 64 players which earlier were more than 100. But the problem was that even if francises would have liked they could not have picked all 64 players as only 12 slots were available with most of the francises having only 1 slot or maximum 2 slots. chosing 1 person out of 64 was a tedious job and in the process all 11 pakistani players were left out. Not because of performance but because of uncertainty in there availability.The francises don not want to be in a position in which they make a plan revolving around one main player and suddenly find that that player could not come like what happened with Rajisthan royals in IPL 2 when all there plans went to choppers when their main boller Sohail ( Best bowler of IPL 1) could not join them. they could not recover in IPL-2

  • POSTED BY cricpolitics on | January 23, 2010, 6:54 GMT

    This is just very hard to digest that all the franchises took the same decision on the same day about Pakistani players. They are giving security excuses; don't tell me these security conerns were not there when they asked to put Pak players on the auction list. Regardless of whether it was biased or not it was just an absolute rubbish and one can not expect that from such professional franchise organizations. Can somebody from these so called professionals and movie stars answer why did they want to put Pak players on the auction at the first place?

    Also how can somebody say that BCCI and ICC have no say or nothing to do with IPL? Isn't IPL one of the BCCI/ICC approved competitions? Why would ICL had so many problems and IPL did not. Why the international players who joined ICL were banned from playing international and domestic cricket under ICC but no problem for playing in IPL? The reality is that IPL is one of the BCCI/ICC approved event.

  • POSTED BY mumbaiguy79 on | January 23, 2010, 6:53 GMT

    To be honest the real outrage is over Keiron Pollard, a nobody until few months back, getting close to a million dollars and guys like Afridi and others raking in nothing. If the issue is so nationalistic for the Pakistani players then what about playing cricket matches in Abu Dhabi and England (that were scheduled to be played in Pakistan). It's all about money!

  • POSTED BY HEARTOUT on | January 23, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    Gupta Ji, You wrote a much better article than Harsha to some extent but the fact remain that if these player's have doubted by their availability why would IPL short list them and put them in the bid.........The case itself made at fault and with sorry to all indians writers you are not doing justice to your profession.. When you talk for free market get your brains free first from things which are necessary......Comparing IPL with English county is a far thing to do as you never heard these sorts of things even with players who have been awarded deal and not given chance to play a match in the whole season.......Grow up if you wanna compete with the world...............

  • POSTED BY CrisSayHi on | January 23, 2010, 6:43 GMT

    Reaction that was evoked due to decision of IPL in Pak and even to some extent in India is understandable. Every side has their story and everyone seems to have an opinion on this matter. For a moments, lets assume nothing like this happened and some of pak player got into franchise. IPL begins and god forbid, something sinister like mumbai attack happen in INDIA with Pak in the equation. What will happen to franchise and their publicity in INDIA? Then only those franchise will be held as scapegoat by the same person who are criticizing them for not taking Pak players. Why to risk their own money? Noble act is not for business organization when everyone (govt., cricket organizations) seems to forget about it. So why should we blame them. The realization of business risk for keeping Pak players must not come in one day before auction. Therefore, they could have handled it better way by informing privately to players or PCB. Again it is a choice only they can exercise, not us

  • POSTED BY apyboutit on | January 23, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    What has happened is highly unfortunate, but it is (looks like) irreparable. It definitely doesn't look like, as Jayditya clarifies, intentional. But every single India fan would have loved to see U. Akmal and Afridi, in their current forms especially, at the IPL. The bottom line is, IPL shows that they do not care about the fans. They are all about money. Dear Pak brothers, if it is any consolation, please note that IPLC would do exactly the same, i.e. choose money over fans, even with the Indian fans. They don't even venture into building good toilets, aerated and comfortable queuing arrangements, hygienic & well-equipped food stalls, kids sections, etc. in any of the grounds, in spite of all the money that they generate. Hell! Even the pitches are just secondary in IPL matches! All that matters is Money! With this attitude, they have screwed up and UN-intentionally, unthoughtfully and recklessly, brought about the current sorry situation. Sorry to Pak players and fans!

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | January 23, 2010, 6:41 GMT

    GUPTA JI WRONG...there is more to it. Its a jointly decieded by team owners. Is it Modis work, is it BCCI, is it foriegn office, OR is it mr. Bal Thakrey. I think indian police should investigate it.

    Even CONSPIRING TO TAKE JOINT DECISIONS BY THE BIDDERS OF AN AUCTION IS AN UNLAWFULL ACT. isn't it, go check out!

    Its so in all developed countries and I guess its in India too. All other talk is of no use, only that its a police case. actually I will like any one pakistani player to file a police case. Then the police has to find out who is behind all this.

    BCCI IS A SELF OWNED ENTITY, IPL IS ITS PART. THEY ADMINISTRATE BIDDING. SO ITS THEM TO CLEAR IT OUT. And I bet u will find a new story.

  • POSTED BY atuljain1969 on | January 23, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    I fail to understand why everybody is concerend about non selection of pakis players. Just few months back, they were not allowed to be part of IPL-2 by Pak govt., nobody raised any hue & cry then. People forget that there were in all 66 players for auction and only 13 got selected. Concern should have been raised if 53 players were selected leaving only Pakis. Franchisee have every right to select players they like, when IPL was shifted to SA, what could have been more demeaning to India , but nobody was concerned, as decision was taken in best interest of game and business, same is now. People must learn to accept and respect decision made by those whose matter.

  • POSTED BY SourojitDhar on | January 23, 2010, 6:38 GMT

    Mr. Gupta... I guess your paycheck depends on what you write and think (and vice versa)!! Like Mr. Bhogle, you too have been drinking the Indian Kool-Aid!! This article is a mere rephrasing of Harsha's article on the same topic a few days back. Like many of us here, I am a proud Indian... and it HURTS to see how "toxic-nationalism" (qouting Deepak Chopra) has gotten the better of us. CLEARLY, Lalit Modi and his team IPL monkeys (from Bollywood and around) have hijacked what represents an Indian spirit. Lalit Modi should really join the George W Bush "We have money, power and call the shots" Club. Not a huge fan of Rameez Raja, but I do agree with him when he said that everyone expects better of India and Indians.

  • POSTED BY borninthetimeofSRT on | January 23, 2010, 6:32 GMT

    Its ironic that in this whole drama about IPL snubbing Pakistan players, the main factors to trigger such sentiments are the fact that Pakistan are 'world champions' and India - Pakistan relations are 'bad'. I wonder what sentiments would have been asserted if the snub happened in KFC Big Bash. Pakistan changes loyalities very soon as it suits to them, always believing its a bi-polar world of cricket of India and Australia. If they feel threatened by Australia, they talk of Asian alignment while if they feel threatened by India, they go to ICC. They are very spontaneous and erratic in what they have to say. Such sentiments are not conducive for International cricket and ICC should take firm action in such cases where it is treated as a complaint box by Pakistan. It seems they are not very used to the corporate sports world. PCB needs to realize that it is not them being auctioned at the IPL, it is the players as individuals, so let it be. Let them deal with their of feel of rejection.

  • POSTED BY maverick85 on | January 23, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    as a pakistani the exclusion of Pakistani Players from the IPL is sort of funny.. in a sad way! our players might not be up to when it comes to test cricket these days but they are good in the ODIs and the BEST in the t20 business. Having said that we must realize that the IPL and the associated t20 champions trophy are domestic events held by India. If they don't want us there, well too bad, we can't do much about it. its their turf, their money, their tournament. But the interesting thing about all of this is that it will put the ICC in a tight spot over allotting a special window for IPL and other events. After this incident, the icc cannot allot a special window to a domestic tournament that excludes players from certain countries. and our players should also have some dignity and move on.. most are simply ruing the fact that they have missed out on cashing on the IPL money. well too bad, try the aussie big bash or the English country circuit to earn some money!

  • POSTED BY Xen0phon on | January 23, 2010, 6:26 GMT

    What does it matter if they were shortlisted and not picked? Obviously players from other countries were also shortlisted and then not picked. Do you feel ticked off on their behalf as well? It is an auction. They are either bought or not.

    It is also not the case that the franchises do not want pakistani players, else they would not have picked them in the first season either.

    There is a lot of money involved here. If a player is bought, a contract is signed. If the Indian government then decides to not allow a player to play, there might well be a significant loss of money as well. Moreover, this player in absentee also takes up one slot in the overseas players list for a franchise. We all know that it's the internationals who make the IPL watchable.

    I don't really think that anybody besides Afridi needs to feel aggrieved. Gul is bowling like shyte at the moment. Tanvir can't even make his national team. The only other player of minor interest would have been Naved.

  • POSTED BY jazzaaaaaaaa on | January 23, 2010, 6:26 GMT

    Ok, as an Aussie I might not understand, but why is there so much fuss about this? If no Aussies were picked for the IPL, I wouldnt care one bit. To me its just a money making tournament with no meaning. I think the fuss thats been created by some of the Paki players just shows how much they want to play for the money.

  • POSTED BY Bystander on | January 23, 2010, 6:26 GMT

    I am a Pakistani and I understand that if the franchises do not pick any Pakistani player then that is their choice. At the same time, the ludicrous excuses coming out of India clearly point to a political agenda behind this. I think it's shameful for Pakistani players to even consider any option of playing in India except for ICC backed tours. They have and are earning more than enough money to get by. However, I am totally against the concept of IPL and the champions league. This is simply corrupting the game and is taking the traditional gloss away from it. I would also like to know how are the investors going to recover such hefty amounts that they buy players for. I don't think sponsors and match tickets etc. are enough to first recover and then make profits on their investments. Its not Tennis or Soccer, its cricket with a far limited following than these two. It looks as if IPL is feeding the greed of ICC, thus enjoying a major stake in governing the sport.

  • POSTED BY hsengiv86 on | January 23, 2010, 5:54 GMT

    after all this as happened with no proof , after 10 years some one will release a autobiography saying that this is what had really happened.let us wait for that moment and see who had the say in the matter

    i hate these autobiography,if some one has the courage let them speak it now, we are all pretty sure that some thing had happened at backstage

  • POSTED BY adilk on | January 23, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    Cricinfo has some of the best bloggers and writers but its sad that no nuetrul volunteer came forward to write some facts here. Both Gupta and Harsha are trying to put blame on Pakistan because they are from Indian origin. Not stupid but even a crazy person would wonder why IPL fanchises are not intrested in players who won the world cup and were runner up a year before.I remember Lalit Modi saying almost 8 months ago that there will be no Pakistani player in IPL this year. IPL fanchise owners were strictly forbidden behind closed doors that not to have any Pakistani player. They were told by Indian Government, RAW and Lalit Modi. They are trying to isolate Pakistan in every field. Anyhow, using sport as a weapon and hurting millions of crickets fans across the border and in the world is a serious crime. A reasonable penality for this crime would be to ban IPL and have Australia,England or SA stage and event like this where they always apperciated talent and played on merit.

  • POSTED BY VivaVizag on | January 23, 2010, 5:23 GMT

    I read everywhere people (even Indians) go gaga over the likes of Afridi, U Akmal, Gul, etc. Let me refresh their memory. As a group these individuals happen to win the final of a world T20 championship after beaten to the pulp by other teams in earlier stages. When was the last time these individuals played against a team that has the likes of Pietersen, Kallis, Dravid, Steyn, Ross Taylor, Kumble etc. and single handedly won the game like Keiron Pollard? None,nai, nada. Afridi is unpredictable at best and have not done any justification to his price in IPL-1. Gul may be a good bowler in death overs but he is no Steyn or Malinga. And Tanvir should have attracted a bid with his IPL-1 performance couple of years ago (few eons in T20 memory) but we haven't heard about this bloke lately. So why should KKR bid for Gul or Tanvir instead of the proven toe crusher Shane Bond? This is talent acquisition not affirmative action. Got it??

  • POSTED BY BEDEKAR on | January 23, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    What is hurting Pakistani players is the loss of money! And BIG money that too !If the stakes were only for a few thousands or to play for a particular side ,no such controversy would have taken place !

  • POSTED BY paulantony on | January 23, 2010, 5:02 GMT

    If the decision taken by the franchises by solely on the basis of availability hten why was Shane Bond picked? he wont be available for the initial matches, All that i can say is that Pakistani players should have being considered as professionals and treated on par with the others. However i also feel that the hue & cry raised by the Pakistani Board & its Government is a getting touch overboard. Indian Govt has done its part by distancing itself from all this its now upto the Pakistani govt to follow the lead.

  • POSTED BY pReNUp on | January 23, 2010, 4:59 GMT

    welll....im not a modi fan...but he is got a point...we don't need to be apologetic towards wat happened...every1 is free to make there decision and the franchice did by doin something tht thy thght wld b better ($$) for them..anyone..this is democracy and everyone has the right to exercise there power of ..watever tht is...may b the notion of being a "Democratic State" has not been totally understood by the Paki's...ooh how cld thy.. they do not even knw wtf is democracy...so in my opinion...thy shld shutup...rather than make a fool of oneself...in this case the Whole Nation...i have got just one word ....MATURE...SENSES....do these word ring anythin?...no answers..thts wat i ws expecting..

  • POSTED BY Longmemory on | January 23, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    There are a number of problems with this seemingly balanced "analysis". Firstly, the Indian government's neutrality in this affair is scarcely credible. If they had wanted to, they could have indicated sotto voce to the the IPL that visas for the Pak cricketers would not be a problem. In all likelihood the GoI refused to provide such an assurance - why, heaven only knows. Second, the franchises could have stated clearly that anyone who might have visa problems (read Pak players) will not be considered. They chose not to do so. And finally Gupta has lost all crediblity with me after his utterly nonsensical statements about humiliation being the flip-side of dignity etc. Get real - your readers (at least some of us) are not fools. The best players of the best 20/20 team were left unpicked in a supposedly free and fair auction - and you are telling me the market rules?? There may be enough blame to share on this but dont fool yourself - the GoI and the IPL franchises deserve most of it.

  • POSTED BY AtticusFinch on | January 23, 2010, 4:33 GMT

    The matter is being blown completely out of proportion by the Pakistanis, including the Government, the Administrators, the Common man, the Players and even by usually erudite commentators like Imran Khan (who is of late getting completely confusing - he goes patriotic on something like this and then gives interviews calling Pakistan a "failed state"). The Indian Foreign Minister, as quoted by you, has given the whole matter the derision it deserves. And also what you very succinctly said "You can't have the dough and the dignity" hits the nail on the head. You may be heroes and World Champions, but if you want to be auctioned like cows, then be prepared to be treated like Cattle

  • POSTED BY anmn on | January 23, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    This is a simple open and shut case. Pakistanis have no jurisdiction over Indian business ventures. Indian businessmen cannot listen to them on how to do business. If they have a problem, then it is theirs and they better learn to deal with it.

  • POSTED BY jayray999 on | January 23, 2010, 4:11 GMT

    This issue more than any underscores for me, an Indian, how far apart "Midnight's Children" find themselves ten years into the new century. The two countries were already on divergent paths at Independence but it never felt that way to members of their middle classes when their paths crossed on neutral ground like the UK or the US. India's relentless pursuit of American style capitalism over the last twenty years has changed all that. Indians no longer equate their country with their Government. Indeed the Government seems to be a facilitator or a necessary evil depending on whether one is part of the Government or out of it. Pakistanis have demonstrated that they still cling to the colonial mentality that the government has all the answers; the paradigm shift in India is incomprehensible to them. Hence they blame the Indian Government, the BCCI and the IPL in that order for a decision made by cold calculating franchise owners whose god and government alike is their bottom line.

  • POSTED BY manan20 on | January 23, 2010, 4:10 GMT

    Very well written article. Everybody misses the point here that first pakistani players applied and fill the form to take part in IPL-3, and when you are part of an auction, there is no guarantee to get selected. Everybody in Pakistan is right now cry baby but no one tries to understand the whole process involving the selection of players through franchises. Franchises are free to select anybody and there is no point in burning effigy of Lalit Modi and that is shameless act and also, cricinfo should not publish this kind of pictures on their website. The fun part is PCB wants to take it to ICC ....now is there any sensible person left in PCB or somebody needs to explain them.

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | January 23, 2010, 4:00 GMT

    The IPL is a business enterprise.The Pakistanis missed several deadlines and still were accomodated in the auction. It is disappointing that no Pakistanis were accomodated, but the reaction has been shrill and over the top. To use a phrase from The Godfather "it is not personal; it is business".

  • POSTED BY pakmember on | January 23, 2010, 3:54 GMT

    I am surprised by the articles written by indian experts around the world. They are using logic to legitimate the act by ipl. Most of these same experts ignore the logic and sense whenever the indian people show outrageous anger when indian players have been mistreated by other in umpring scandels etc. BCCI is using it's influence to arrange the permanent window for ipl and make other boards to adjust their schedule . Saying that ipl is purely frannchise driven decision is not correct. I hated when pak players were begging for being included in first place. Now, I hate them even more for crying foul. Btw, franchises did nominate the players in first place. Their is no single logic that not even a single franchise bid on a pak player. It just tell me that it is pre-planned in corridors. Security has been used as argument. If that is an argument, then it is indian problem. A country that can not guarantee saftey for certain group, should not be safe for others either.

  • POSTED BY aggarwald on | January 23, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    > The cricketers, it can be argued, set themselves up for such a humiliation the moment they agreed to be auctioned. Humiliation is merely the flip side of the million-dollar contract. You can't have the dough and the dignity.

    Wow, such strong words! So people who have dough don't have dignity? There is more misplaced hubris and condescension in this article, which is a result of India having plenty of dough to play around with. Remember Mr.Writer, What goes round comes around. Finally, can you let us know which club do you belong to - dough club or dignity club?

  • POSTED BY TwitterJitter on | January 23, 2010, 3:24 GMT

    Firstly, like you said the players are representing themselves as individuals to represent Indian city franchises - not Pakistan national team. Secondly 3 or 4 franchises put few Pak players on their initial shortlist & into final auction. When they had to make a final call might have worried about other risks - namely Shiv Sena types who will start protests outside hotels, which might shift the focus away from game & cause headaches for them. So when making final call, they did not bid for them in auction. It is unfortunate coz their players are one definitely one of the best in T20 but for teams it was a risk/reward choice. The franchises don't discuss their choices with other franchises. A series of individual decisions resulting in a collective outcome - not a deliberate ploy. If all is well & they played, they were to represent Indian cities -not Pakistan nation

  • POSTED BY Kunal-Talgeri on | January 23, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    Whose line do the franchises toe? IPL, I reckon. I think if free markets really operate, then franchise-owners could have looked at Pakistan's players as professionals--and not 'Pakistanis'. There could have been a clause, guarding the franchises from any issue on the political side. I think IPL franchises use the 'free markets' theme only when it suits them. For some reasons, and unfairly so, the treatment of this situation reminded me of how the BCCI has treated the ICL players. It just has that kind of a BCCI bat swing!

    As usual, the fans come last. I would have loved to see Afridi and U.Akmal. Why does every IPL season have to begin with such nonsensical bossing-around?

  • POSTED BY raskalamindit on | January 23, 2010, 3:10 GMT

    All i have to say is, if it was already decided that none of the Pakistani players would not be picked, then why waste their time and short list them.Knowingly including them for the short list and not bidding for them is a slap in the Pakistani players face.

    Afridi is gonna play for the qualified S.Australia, lets see if BCCI get proved wrong or not on his availability.

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  • POSTED BY raskalamindit on | January 23, 2010, 3:10 GMT

    All i have to say is, if it was already decided that none of the Pakistani players would not be picked, then why waste their time and short list them.Knowingly including them for the short list and not bidding for them is a slap in the Pakistani players face.

    Afridi is gonna play for the qualified S.Australia, lets see if BCCI get proved wrong or not on his availability.

  • POSTED BY Kunal-Talgeri on | January 23, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    Whose line do the franchises toe? IPL, I reckon. I think if free markets really operate, then franchise-owners could have looked at Pakistan's players as professionals--and not 'Pakistanis'. There could have been a clause, guarding the franchises from any issue on the political side. I think IPL franchises use the 'free markets' theme only when it suits them. For some reasons, and unfairly so, the treatment of this situation reminded me of how the BCCI has treated the ICL players. It just has that kind of a BCCI bat swing!

    As usual, the fans come last. I would have loved to see Afridi and U.Akmal. Why does every IPL season have to begin with such nonsensical bossing-around?

  • POSTED BY TwitterJitter on | January 23, 2010, 3:24 GMT

    Firstly, like you said the players are representing themselves as individuals to represent Indian city franchises - not Pakistan national team. Secondly 3 or 4 franchises put few Pak players on their initial shortlist & into final auction. When they had to make a final call might have worried about other risks - namely Shiv Sena types who will start protests outside hotels, which might shift the focus away from game & cause headaches for them. So when making final call, they did not bid for them in auction. It is unfortunate coz their players are one definitely one of the best in T20 but for teams it was a risk/reward choice. The franchises don't discuss their choices with other franchises. A series of individual decisions resulting in a collective outcome - not a deliberate ploy. If all is well & they played, they were to represent Indian cities -not Pakistan nation

  • POSTED BY aggarwald on | January 23, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    > The cricketers, it can be argued, set themselves up for such a humiliation the moment they agreed to be auctioned. Humiliation is merely the flip side of the million-dollar contract. You can't have the dough and the dignity.

    Wow, such strong words! So people who have dough don't have dignity? There is more misplaced hubris and condescension in this article, which is a result of India having plenty of dough to play around with. Remember Mr.Writer, What goes round comes around. Finally, can you let us know which club do you belong to - dough club or dignity club?

  • POSTED BY pakmember on | January 23, 2010, 3:54 GMT

    I am surprised by the articles written by indian experts around the world. They are using logic to legitimate the act by ipl. Most of these same experts ignore the logic and sense whenever the indian people show outrageous anger when indian players have been mistreated by other in umpring scandels etc. BCCI is using it's influence to arrange the permanent window for ipl and make other boards to adjust their schedule . Saying that ipl is purely frannchise driven decision is not correct. I hated when pak players were begging for being included in first place. Now, I hate them even more for crying foul. Btw, franchises did nominate the players in first place. Their is no single logic that not even a single franchise bid on a pak player. It just tell me that it is pre-planned in corridors. Security has been used as argument. If that is an argument, then it is indian problem. A country that can not guarantee saftey for certain group, should not be safe for others either.

  • POSTED BY balajik1968 on | January 23, 2010, 4:00 GMT

    The IPL is a business enterprise.The Pakistanis missed several deadlines and still were accomodated in the auction. It is disappointing that no Pakistanis were accomodated, but the reaction has been shrill and over the top. To use a phrase from The Godfather "it is not personal; it is business".

  • POSTED BY manan20 on | January 23, 2010, 4:10 GMT

    Very well written article. Everybody misses the point here that first pakistani players applied and fill the form to take part in IPL-3, and when you are part of an auction, there is no guarantee to get selected. Everybody in Pakistan is right now cry baby but no one tries to understand the whole process involving the selection of players through franchises. Franchises are free to select anybody and there is no point in burning effigy of Lalit Modi and that is shameless act and also, cricinfo should not publish this kind of pictures on their website. The fun part is PCB wants to take it to ICC ....now is there any sensible person left in PCB or somebody needs to explain them.

  • POSTED BY jayray999 on | January 23, 2010, 4:11 GMT

    This issue more than any underscores for me, an Indian, how far apart "Midnight's Children" find themselves ten years into the new century. The two countries were already on divergent paths at Independence but it never felt that way to members of their middle classes when their paths crossed on neutral ground like the UK or the US. India's relentless pursuit of American style capitalism over the last twenty years has changed all that. Indians no longer equate their country with their Government. Indeed the Government seems to be a facilitator or a necessary evil depending on whether one is part of the Government or out of it. Pakistanis have demonstrated that they still cling to the colonial mentality that the government has all the answers; the paradigm shift in India is incomprehensible to them. Hence they blame the Indian Government, the BCCI and the IPL in that order for a decision made by cold calculating franchise owners whose god and government alike is their bottom line.

  • POSTED BY anmn on | January 23, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    This is a simple open and shut case. Pakistanis have no jurisdiction over Indian business ventures. Indian businessmen cannot listen to them on how to do business. If they have a problem, then it is theirs and they better learn to deal with it.

  • POSTED BY AtticusFinch on | January 23, 2010, 4:33 GMT

    The matter is being blown completely out of proportion by the Pakistanis, including the Government, the Administrators, the Common man, the Players and even by usually erudite commentators like Imran Khan (who is of late getting completely confusing - he goes patriotic on something like this and then gives interviews calling Pakistan a "failed state"). The Indian Foreign Minister, as quoted by you, has given the whole matter the derision it deserves. And also what you very succinctly said "You can't have the dough and the dignity" hits the nail on the head. You may be heroes and World Champions, but if you want to be auctioned like cows, then be prepared to be treated like Cattle