April 30, 2013

'Players can become jaded playing all forms of the game'

John Inverarity talks about the challenges of selection, the future of Australian cricket, and the forthcoming tour to England
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On April 24, John Inverarity named the squad that may define his tenure as national selector - Australia's Ashes tour party. Over the preceding 18 months Inverarity presided over a panel that introduced numerous young talented fast bowlers, but they have found it harder to identify genuine batsmen for the future. Inverarity spoke about the challenges that have confronted the selectors in that time, and looked ahead to the England tour.

You have had a view of Australian cricket from the outside. How do you feel about it now, having been on the inside for a time?
I'm not sure that it's changed much, because before I got into this position I was obviously following it very closely. One of the things we can really look forward to, I think, is the maturing of a lot of very good players: James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood, Gurinder Sandhu, spinners Ashton Agar and Nathan Lyon; allrounders James Faulkner, Mitchell Marsh, Moises Henriques and Glenn Maxwell; batsmen David Warner, Usman Khawaja, Steve Smith, Alex Doolan, Joe Burns, Nic Maddinson, and Matt Wade with the gloves; and a number of other talented youngsters. We really hope those young players come through. But it will take time for them to mature.

I think the future is good. We are in a transition stage at the moment, and we really need those young players to mature and perform.

You mention maturing players. Is it a challenge now to find ways to help them to mature in the right way? Not just around the way cricket is today, but in wider society?
That's a good question. The cricket scene now is more fragmented than it was, with T20. If you'd said ten years ago that there wouldn't be any domestic first-class cricket in Australia in December and January, you would have thought that was not possible. The Big Bash League has been a great attraction and it's been a great success in spreading the word of cricket. But in terms of players developing momentum, it has made it rather difficult. A very good example is Alex Doolan, who has been a very promising player for some time and built up some real momentum in October-November, and then of course the next time he played a Shield match was in February. So that was difficult for him.

Society is different in some ways from what it was. There's certainly a lot of support for the young cricketers now, but developing initiative, independence, and resilience is an essential part of becoming a good cricketer, I think.

One example of that is Nic Maddinson. He's clearly extremely talented but at a stage where I've seen him attempting to hit sixes over cover in Shield games. Regarding his development as a Test-match batsman, you wonder whether T20 or other influences make that difficult?
Your summary there is exactly right. Nic Maddinson is a talented player who sees the ball early and strikes it beautifully, but there's a lot more to making 150 over four sessions in a Test match. That's the sort of player that we need. But with T20 and the boundaries in a bit, the better bats and the glitz, not as many are coming through that way. We desperately need players of the talent of Maddinson to find that gear you're talking about.

Is there anything you'd like to see change at a mentoring and development level to encourage young guys to become Test players?
It's a difficult question. I don't think anyone has got the exact answer as to why we haven't got players who bat for long periods coming through. But one thing I am sure about is that young players need to work it out for themselves. As you've alluded to before, society is different now: there's fast food and immediate gratification. I would think, for an intelligent young player with some talent looking to make his way, high on his agenda would be developing an appetite and the wherewithal to bat for long periods and make big scores.

Ricky Ponting said that he felt it's difficult for a young player playing T20 when he's still working out his role as a batsman. It's very different to what he himself did.
Ricky did, as did a lot before him, at school or in the backyard - when he got the bat, he liked batting and he was going to bat for as long as he could, until someone got him out. He probably batted all of recess time, all of lunchtime, all through after school, and most of the next morning. That's the sort of mindset we need, and that's less prevalent now than it used to be.

"Playing in all forms, players can tend to become jaded. I think Michael Clarke at the moment is benefiting greatly from having a break. Over a period of five years, my view is, you'll get more out of a player if he has appropriate breaks"

One thing many have been curious about since the forming of the high-performance regime that came out of the Argus review is how much of a place at the table you have with Cricket Australia regarding the schedule, when that's often cited as an issue.
That's CA's responsibility. They do the scheduling. It's not at our level. There'll be meetings and we'll express our views, but the fixtures are the fixtures. As simple as that.

You spent a lot of time in England with a couple of counties. What were some of the key lessons you learned there about achieving success in England?
Just playing good cricket. Having good bowlers who are patient and bowl a line and length with some movement. And batting through the difficult periods, and then being able to capitalise when the sun is out later in the afternoon, when things are a little easier. So nothing much has changed in that regard.

In 2004 Warwickshire won the championship, and it was said widely that it was the poorest side ever to win the championship in living memory, which I think the side took as a compliment because it meant that without the talent they were able to apply themselves. They played very determined cricket, game after game. They kept the pressure on for four days. It was a reward for application and bowling persistently, patiently, and for the batsmen it was about enduring the difficult periods and making hay when things got better. I think it's exactly the same here [in the Ashes] - playing consistent cricket and not panicking at any stage.

Something else that was said of that Warwickshire side was, it didn't have a star cast of bowlers but some solid batting that was used to the bowlers' advantage. This time around with Australia you have steady batting at best and a bit more of an edge among the bowlers.
We just used the resources we had. We had a steady bowling side at best. As in anything, you go with the best that you have and you apply yourself really well, prepare really well, and do as well as you can. I think with this Australian side, there's 11 weeks before the first Test, and there'll be a lot of preparation, physical and mental, and I think we'll be really well prepared when the Test series starts.

Rotation got a big run in the newspapers last summer. You'd said yourself at the start of the season, "Rotation isn't a dirty word, rotation is reality."
I was talking then about Pat Cummins four or five days before we knew he had a stress fracture. He's a fine young talent but we were fully aware he would not be able to play six Tests in a row; at most three or four out of six. It was also obvious when we were in the West Indies just over 12 months ago that Ryan Harris was a wonderful bowler who's had some fitness issues. He was, as I recall, the Man of the Match in the first Test. But he was obviously not going to be able to play the three Tests. So he was managed in the second and came back strongly in the third. That's just a reality.

The first [Ashes] Test starts in 11 weeks. If you look back at the two years before that, injuries aside, James Pattinson and Mitchell Starc have been managed and prepared as well as can be expected. Mitchell in the 12 months, from when he played two Tests against New Zealand, then one against India, then went to the West Indies as a project player, then played the last Test, had some exposure at Yorkshire, then Australia A, then came in and played the third Test against South Africa, then the first and third Tests against Sri Lanka. He was having some trouble with his ankle. He went to India and played two Tests. He's had the bone spurs removed. In reality he's had as perfect a preparation for the first [Ashes] Test as could be wished for.

The rotation of bowlers is a reality, but is there a fundamentally different attitude that needs to be taken with batsmen? Do they require more consistency because it can mess with their heads if they're shuffled around?
I think that's exaggerated. It does not stand up to scrutiny. Missing a game or two for an elite professional cricketer, who plays all three formats and for numerous teams, should not be an issue at all. Players regularly come back from a prolonged layoff for injury and bat brilliantly. A recent example is Shane Watson's superb 122 against West Indies in Canberra after not playing for more than six weeks.

Playing in all forms, players can tend to become jaded. I think Michael Clarke at the moment is benefiting greatly from having a break. Over a period of five years, my view is you'll get more out of a player if he has appropriate breaks. And of course that creates opportunity for others. Jackson Bird playing for Starc in the Boxing Day Test was a great benefit to Australian cricket.

A question that keeps coming up, particularly in reference to the India tour, was, why doesn't Steve O'Keefe get picked?
Steve O'Keefe is a very good cricketer. He's taken wickets, and he's a steady batsman. Whenever we've been at the selection table, we've marginally preferred other players to him. But he's still regarded as a good cricketer. We're very aware of his figures and we do look deeper than that. But there's a panel of five of us and there's a consistency of view when we select the spinners.

As a selection panel you've used limited-overs formats to stretch younger players, at least partly to see whether they might be capable performers in Test matches. However, the selections of Xavier Doherty and Glenn Maxwell for Tests in India, largely on the strength of their ODI displays, did not produce great results. How informative was that in terms of recognising Shield performance?
It was unfortunate that Jon Holland and Michael Beer were injured and could not be considered. Our spin bowling stocks were significantly reduced. The immediate future looks considerably brighter with these two players regaining fitness, Nathan Lyon having done well in Delhi, Ashton Agar and Fawad Ahmed performing very well at the end of the domestic season, and Steve O'Keefe continuing to perform consistently.

Xavier Doherty is a very reliable bowler and in the Tests in India he was able to provide a good level of control. Glenn Maxwell captured seven wickets in the two Tests at an average of 27.57. It was very unfortunate that the one day on the tour he was ill was when India batted - on the second day of the fourth Test in Delhi - and the wicket was turning square.

Nathan Lyon had a topsy turvy India tour, but he finished the series well, and has now struck up a mentoring relationship with Stuart MacGill. He had worked with Ashley Mallett before the India tour. How have you viewed his progress, and the challenge of finding the right people to mentor him?
I consider it very important for spin bowlers to establish a relationship with others who are, or have been, successful spin bowlers. They do well to have soul-mates. People like MacGill, Mallett and others have a great deal to offer. In the West Indies just over 12 months ago Lance Gibbs told me that when in Australia in 1960-61, he constantly sought the company and advice of then recently retired Australian offspinner Ian Johnson, and then in England soon after, he sought out Jim Laker. Lance wanted to talk about his craft with those who had had successful careers as offspinners. He indicated he learnt a great deal from them.

Lyon has done well for Australia and he is learning all the time. He is only 25, has considerable upside, and the selection panel looks forward to him improving steadily over the next few years.

Ricky Ponting retired at the end of the South Africa series, while Michael Hussey was still going very well, and then he surprised everyone by saying he'd decided to retire. He's subsequently said he didn't convey his intentions because he didn't want to be shuffled out. Would Ricky conceivably still be playing for Australia if you'd known about Michael?
All you can deal with is what's going on at the time. Ricky made his decision just before the third Test against South Africa. His mind was very clear. A month later we learned of Mike's decision, and he was very clear there. We certainly didn't see Mike's decision coming. But they're two separate decisions. And we've lost a lot of experience with those two.

I wanted to ask about the media side of things inherent in your role. It's fair to deduce you still think selectors should have a certain distance or mystique to them. How have you dealt with that and have you found it more challenging than you expected?
Times change and there's an expectation of a national selector being in the media. I'm asked a lot of questions and I'm forthcoming, but there's always a word or a sentence here or there that will be taken up. It's a challenge.

Do you feel that you communicate better in a conversation than in a TV-friendly sound bite?
That's for others to judge, but I certainly enjoy conversations.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Edwards_Anderson on May 2, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    I know some folks are having a go at Inevarity but keep in mind the man has years of experience behind him. Apart from Inevarity captaining WA to 4 titles in the 70s, Invers was invaluable support to David Hookes leading SA to the 1981/82 Sheffield Shield title. So the guy does know his cricket I like a few of you have been frustrated for the lack of chances given to Khawaja but he is identified as one of our best young batsman. .My feel is that they have him firmly in their plans for the ashes and rightly so. And i know folks will say that Inevarity last played test cricket 40 years ago but that simply means he has more expereince in decision making and i hope we start to get the right batsman in for test cricket. I applaud him and the selectors for the ashes squad picked.

  • Flemo_Gilly on April 30, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    There is no doubt that scheduling of the cricket season is leading to issues. It's good to see that more people are beginning to make a connection between the performances of our test cricketers & the constant to-ing & fro-ing between the different forms of cricket played and Inevarity has pointed this out. Players simply can't move between four-dayers to T20, back to 50 overs, to tests, back to T20, then more four-dayers, then something else again, without losing their technique along the way, or getting confused as to what they're playing today, or simply developing bad habits. Inevarity used Doolan's example, Khawaja was in the same boat, was the second highest shield scorer in shield by the christmas break and then didn't play a single long format game since then. We need to ensure that our better long form players such as Khawaja, Doolan and co continue to play the longer format without big breaks. We are not doing long form cricket justice at the moment.

  • zenboomerang on May 3, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    @Edwards_Anderson - Fleming_Mitch - Amith_S - Mary_786... The problem with your posts is that if Ussie gets an extended run & fails, your comments will look foolish - give the kid a chance - if he succeeds, good on him - if he doesn't, wish him luck for the future... Ever try posting under just the one name?... It doesn't make Ussie a better player or your comms by cross-posting & congratulating yourself...

  • fazald on May 2, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    I think Inverarity is trying to compare his age to that of the players when he says that " the players get jaded playing all forms of the game". I reckon it's for the same reason that Ponting and Michael Hussey were considered too old in their late thirties to continue playing for the team. On the contrary I believe that the players are very keen to play in every format in every game only to be caught up in this so called rotation policy.The omission of Siddle in the crucial Perth test against South Africa and Mitchell Starc in the Boxing Day test against Sri Lanka are typical examples where Inverarity imagined the players were too jaded to play. I think the players tend to lose their rhythm and confidence when they are dropped from the team on the pretext of the so called rotation policy. It's better to find out from the players themselves whether they wish and fit enough to play rather than for the selectors to make those decisions.

  • Amith_S on May 2, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Well said Mary786, we are in a better state then most folks make out to be.

  • Mary_786 on May 1, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    If you look at the list of young players he has identified they do give us hope, Cummins, Pattinson, Agar will hold our bowling, Warner, Khawaja, Maddinson for our batting,just need to give them an extended run.

  • V-Man_ on May 1, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    John Inverarity is the Australian equivalent of Pakistan's Ijaz Butt. Lol

  • Wefinishthis on May 1, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Thankyou Daniel for finally asking the question about O'Keefe as well as the question about ODI vs Shield performances, although you might have liked to have been made aware that Maxwell was our best bowler in India before you mentioned his name. Doherty's performances however, were a complete disgrace. It was interesting to see him answer the question like a politician - not directly addressing the criticism but giving a vague misdirection instead. You could have grilled him about how he thinks Beer or Holland would have done any better than Doherty given their awful records. They would have been smashed all around the ground just the same. Regarding O'Keefe, "We're very aware of his figures and we do look deeper than that" - what is deeper than figures that are far superior to everyone elses? Why are Lyon, Fawad, Beer, Holland, Agar and Doherty all ahead of O'Keefe? Why not at least play him for Aus A? The fact that every knowledgeable fan asks about O'Keefe must say something.

  • MinusZero on May 1, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    They need to stop trying to make players into something they arent. Watson is the classic example. Good ODI and T20 player, but not at tests. Tests require patience, shorter forms rely on impatience, which Watson has plenty of.

  • Meety on April 30, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    @Daniel King - I know that it isn't easy being on the NSP, but the examples you used in Doherty & Maxwell, we DID have a better option, & that was O'Keefe. On this thread - you'll see a lot of references to Invers not really answering the question on SO'K. It is a common thread - that Oz have no spinners, yet here we have a bloke in the toughest spin-bowling domestic environment averaging with the ball not 50, not 40, not 30, but around 27! He has been doing this year in year out. Doherty gets plaudits for his ODI & T20 work, yet SO'K in the limited chances he has had at 20/20 level has outperformed him AND won a Champ League with the Sixers (can't remember if he won one with NSW). On top of all this, he is a more than useful batsmen! He also should of got a chance on the back of his performance against the then soon to be victorious England side in 10/11 - where in ONE A-game at Hobart he took as many wickets as all our lead spinners did in 5 Tests & scored a 50!

  • Edwards_Anderson on May 2, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    I know some folks are having a go at Inevarity but keep in mind the man has years of experience behind him. Apart from Inevarity captaining WA to 4 titles in the 70s, Invers was invaluable support to David Hookes leading SA to the 1981/82 Sheffield Shield title. So the guy does know his cricket I like a few of you have been frustrated for the lack of chances given to Khawaja but he is identified as one of our best young batsman. .My feel is that they have him firmly in their plans for the ashes and rightly so. And i know folks will say that Inevarity last played test cricket 40 years ago but that simply means he has more expereince in decision making and i hope we start to get the right batsman in for test cricket. I applaud him and the selectors for the ashes squad picked.

  • Flemo_Gilly on April 30, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    There is no doubt that scheduling of the cricket season is leading to issues. It's good to see that more people are beginning to make a connection between the performances of our test cricketers & the constant to-ing & fro-ing between the different forms of cricket played and Inevarity has pointed this out. Players simply can't move between four-dayers to T20, back to 50 overs, to tests, back to T20, then more four-dayers, then something else again, without losing their technique along the way, or getting confused as to what they're playing today, or simply developing bad habits. Inevarity used Doolan's example, Khawaja was in the same boat, was the second highest shield scorer in shield by the christmas break and then didn't play a single long format game since then. We need to ensure that our better long form players such as Khawaja, Doolan and co continue to play the longer format without big breaks. We are not doing long form cricket justice at the moment.

  • zenboomerang on May 3, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    @Edwards_Anderson - Fleming_Mitch - Amith_S - Mary_786... The problem with your posts is that if Ussie gets an extended run & fails, your comments will look foolish - give the kid a chance - if he succeeds, good on him - if he doesn't, wish him luck for the future... Ever try posting under just the one name?... It doesn't make Ussie a better player or your comms by cross-posting & congratulating yourself...

  • fazald on May 2, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    I think Inverarity is trying to compare his age to that of the players when he says that " the players get jaded playing all forms of the game". I reckon it's for the same reason that Ponting and Michael Hussey were considered too old in their late thirties to continue playing for the team. On the contrary I believe that the players are very keen to play in every format in every game only to be caught up in this so called rotation policy.The omission of Siddle in the crucial Perth test against South Africa and Mitchell Starc in the Boxing Day test against Sri Lanka are typical examples where Inverarity imagined the players were too jaded to play. I think the players tend to lose their rhythm and confidence when they are dropped from the team on the pretext of the so called rotation policy. It's better to find out from the players themselves whether they wish and fit enough to play rather than for the selectors to make those decisions.

  • Amith_S on May 2, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Well said Mary786, we are in a better state then most folks make out to be.

  • Mary_786 on May 1, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    If you look at the list of young players he has identified they do give us hope, Cummins, Pattinson, Agar will hold our bowling, Warner, Khawaja, Maddinson for our batting,just need to give them an extended run.

  • V-Man_ on May 1, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    John Inverarity is the Australian equivalent of Pakistan's Ijaz Butt. Lol

  • Wefinishthis on May 1, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Thankyou Daniel for finally asking the question about O'Keefe as well as the question about ODI vs Shield performances, although you might have liked to have been made aware that Maxwell was our best bowler in India before you mentioned his name. Doherty's performances however, were a complete disgrace. It was interesting to see him answer the question like a politician - not directly addressing the criticism but giving a vague misdirection instead. You could have grilled him about how he thinks Beer or Holland would have done any better than Doherty given their awful records. They would have been smashed all around the ground just the same. Regarding O'Keefe, "We're very aware of his figures and we do look deeper than that" - what is deeper than figures that are far superior to everyone elses? Why are Lyon, Fawad, Beer, Holland, Agar and Doherty all ahead of O'Keefe? Why not at least play him for Aus A? The fact that every knowledgeable fan asks about O'Keefe must say something.

  • MinusZero on May 1, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    They need to stop trying to make players into something they arent. Watson is the classic example. Good ODI and T20 player, but not at tests. Tests require patience, shorter forms rely on impatience, which Watson has plenty of.

  • Meety on April 30, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    @Daniel King - I know that it isn't easy being on the NSP, but the examples you used in Doherty & Maxwell, we DID have a better option, & that was O'Keefe. On this thread - you'll see a lot of references to Invers not really answering the question on SO'K. It is a common thread - that Oz have no spinners, yet here we have a bloke in the toughest spin-bowling domestic environment averaging with the ball not 50, not 40, not 30, but around 27! He has been doing this year in year out. Doherty gets plaudits for his ODI & T20 work, yet SO'K in the limited chances he has had at 20/20 level has outperformed him AND won a Champ League with the Sixers (can't remember if he won one with NSW). On top of all this, he is a more than useful batsmen! He also should of got a chance on the back of his performance against the then soon to be victorious England side in 10/11 - where in ONE A-game at Hobart he took as many wickets as all our lead spinners did in 5 Tests & scored a 50!

  • fazald on April 30, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    As mentioned by John Inverarity in this article that five members in the selection panel including himself made the decision to omit Steve O'Keefe from the test series against India despite his impressive figures in shield cricket compared to Lyon, Doherthy, Maxwell and Smith put together then I reckon the future of aussie cricket under the chairmanship of Inverarity looks very bleak indeed. It's very poor decision making like this in recent times that has cost Australia dearly losing to both South Africa and India. Very soon we could end up as the laughing stock of world cricket.

  • on April 30, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    As a Warwickshire supporter I have a lot of time for Inverarity and I think he and the rest of the CA people are in a difficult situation.

    Essentially he's having to pick players who he knows aren't good enough - e.g. Doherty, Maxwell, Hughes - but has no other option because the alternatives are worse. To then have to defend their selection when they perform as they have must be very frustrating.

  • Paul_Rampley on April 30, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    @Flemingmitch some great points.A possible solution could be to to ask players to choose which form they want to play? Siddle has stated his preference and his performances reflect this. Others such as Cowan and Khawaja have also made test cricket their priority and you can see this in their games as they are best equipped to deal with it, Clarke has also made test cricket priority and i don't need to go into his performances, they are out of this world. I worry other of our players will never be good test cricketers until they put their full energy into long form cricket. Otherwise they will be always injured, exhausted or not be in the right frame for long form cricket. I also hope that our contract system keeps rewarding test cricket as it currently does.

  • rienzied on April 30, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Seriously think Warner's position as an opener out of Australia in Test cricket needs to be reviewed. He seems to be placed on the untouchable podium. He doesn't have the technique on difficult wickets...

  • Beertjie on April 30, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Agree entirely, @goldeneraaus on (April 30, 2013, 5:53 GMT). @Mary_786 on (April 30, 2013, 4:28 GMT. I too hope Warner and Khawaja succeed but neither can be carried through a series if they're failing like Hughes did in India. Making Warner VC would be like giving him the series and if they're serious about picking all batsmen on merit, then Haddin as VC for this series is OK. If Warner has a good one, he'd be my pick as VC for Ashes II. @landl47, I believe Harris was picked to make a contribution because he's the best while he's able to bowl. I doubt there'll be another Melbourne if Watson and Bird play alongside him. The former can pick up some of the slack of Bird bowling long spells. Sayers (who's in the A-team) would be gaining experience of conditions in the meantime. Hope you're wrong about Ashes @ Sir_Francis on (April 30, 2013, 8:07 GMT), but deep down I fear you may be right: bowlers win matches but if your batsmen are of a different class...

  • Mitty2 on April 30, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    @landl47, based on the A tour selections, it would have been the promising outswinger chad sayers in whom had a phenomenal shield season with a bird-like average, and you'd think him to be even more suited to england. RE harris, that is definitely the only occasion he has broken down in a test, if he had done it twice then it would be an issue, but breaking down in a match happens to all bowlers. Regardless, ponting played in the shield - although he didn't get to face cutting, mcdermott and other injured prospects - you'd still think he'd have a fair idea when he lablelled harris as the best quick in australia. If you saw his performance in the shield on a very sluggish pitch, you'd think his selection more than justifiable.

    Doolan was only in contention because of his 160* against SA, his season took a bad turn because of the big bash. As a point of comparison: root averaged 37 in FC when he was selected; it's what the selectors see, not just based on stats. This goes for SOK aswell

  • Sir_Francis on April 30, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Bit confused. Doherty is steady? Is that what you want from a test player, or wickets? And O'keefe doesn't get carted. Also, he says Doolan lost momentum when there was no FC cricket in December & January but later on, he says professional batsman should have no trouble pplaying well after a long break. Sort of an attack on Doolan really. We have some decent quicks but I don't feel any better than when Hilditch was tuffing it up. Reminds me of England selectors like May & Dexter back in the glory years on 1989 - 2005. They were not the greatest selectors ever and Hilditch & Inverarity seem eerily like them. It's gonna be a while before we get the Ashes back.

  • on April 30, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    Invers has no easy job here, in my opinion. With the advent of the BBL and the change up in the state pitches to a bunch of seaming wickets, he just isn't going to get batsmen conditioned to playing long innings. He is also going to be faced with seamers that take lots of easy poles and aren't conditioned to putting the ball in the right areas for long periods. If the stand out players aren't there to be picked its pretty hard to blame the chairman of selectors. Yes we have the case of SOK but even if picked I don't have the feeling that he's going to return Warne like performances. Observe the selection of Rogers, this is really a case of good selection, people will say oh yes, why wasn't he selected 2 years ago then? Well the fact is he wasn't performing, now he has put up the figures he is in the team. I just don't know that the selectors can do much more than they are. Its up to CA to create a better environment and the players to make better use of it.

  • Ozcricketwriter on April 30, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    This is very muddled and confusing talk, that suggests that there is no clear aim from the selection committee. Whatever the aim is, it'd be nice to see that they had a clear aim, rather than a muddled one.

  • hycIass on April 30, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    I suspect England got fairer wickets in India than we did because they are a threat with the spinning ball. Forget the hand wringing, what happened to Australian wickets through the Warne era. The answer is develop players who can play in all conditions and this means having a range of different wickets in first class cricket.Is part of the problem that traditional (or cliched) test wickets which are green early, bat well then turn are a bit of a myth even if you have 5 days. If you have 4 days to get a wicket to turn day 4 in Australia generally it has to be a road for days 1, 2 and 3. This means you bring the draw back heavily into the mix.. Our batsman will have their work cut regardless of whether the bowl swings or spins. Clarke will be our best player if we get spinning tracks, Rogers and Khawaja will be our best batsman if the ball is moving around, my guess is it will be the later but either way it sets up to be an exciting series.

  • Meety on April 30, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    @ landl47 on (April 30, 2013, 4:56 GMT) - I wouldn't get so involved with the ages of players like Hughes & Doolan. Hughes would sometimes seem to be older than his actual age due to having been around the Test team on & off for years, which is about the length of time Doolan has taken to establish himself in State cricket. It is worth noting that Doolan has the same amount of tons (5) as Root, in as many FC games. Whilst Root has 4 Tests to his credit, Doolan has played a FC match against a full strength SA attack. It is FAIR to say that Root is highly regarded in English circles, the only significant difference is Root is 4 yrs younger than Doolan & got a national call up earlier.

  • Edwards_Anderson on April 30, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    I am warming to Cowan, and from what I can observe he seems to be well respected in the team. His batting was gritty and hopefully he can cement his spot in England as he needs to convert his starts. Another young player who some of you have mentioned is Khawaja, he has been watiting on the wings since November and is tailored made for test cricket, a future test star who just needs half the games given to some of the other young players, the ashes can be his making. Other batsman to keep an eye on for next season include D Huss, Kurtis Patterson, Carters, Finch and Ferguson.

  • goldeneraaus on April 30, 2013, 5:53 GMT

    Some great questions by Brettig, ones that us diehard aussie fans have been wondering ourselves unfortunately Inverarity failed to answer them at all!! His answer about o'keefe was a load of fluff with no meaning, and he completely deflected the question about maxwell and Doherty, and even had the nerve to suggest they performed well?! "doherty gave control" give me a break honestly.. even if he won't admit it publicly he knows they made a grave error picking so many limited overs specialists in the squad to India, because he has rectified that for the Ashes Squad which is by and large excellent given the circumstances, and for that atleast he deserves credit.

  • .Raina on April 30, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    What sort of selection 'inputs' does your team take Mr. Inverarity?? -- "Steve O'Keefe is a very good cricketer. He's taken wickets, and he's a steady batsman" --- But still you "marginally prefer" other guys who do not have much to show off in their First Class 'Report Card'. It is the same with Khawaja. He has been 'attached' to the test team for a better part of the last two years; but other 'marginal batsmen' are able to grab a place in the playing XI. If limited over cricket continues to be a benchmark for selection in tests, it would of course be impossible to find a 'genuine test player'......

  • Amith_S on April 30, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    Our batting is nowhere near the 2005 2009 and 2010/11 standard, all of which was overcome, the last time with startling ease.Their bowling depends a bit on who's fit apart from Ando, but there is enough depth and all have experienced knocking over more experienced aussies than these.I'm struggling to see where enough runs will come from. We'll probably start;

    Warner Cowan Hughes Watson Clarke Khawaja

    but after that anything could happen. Khawaja, Cowan and Haddin can get valuable practice in the Aus A games. Khawaja will do well and could be one of our better batsman and Warner could be one to watch out for too. As for the other young players coming through Mitch Marsh will be a good allrounder for the future, Klinger is a guy i have alot of time for and also Quiney, he will come back strong next year

  • Sunil_Batra on April 30, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    Even though our batting is not at as good as in the 90s we can still win. Watson must be told he must bowl and bat. His batting has fallen away and the ashes must be his tour. As for Cowan. I would start him,and he must convert his starts, i believe he can but he is running out of chances. Hughes will be on notice after the India series but he must fight. Khawaja must get his chance as he has been 12th man since the boxing day test and is one of of our best young batsman whose technique has not been affected by the shorter format. And we must stop picking players who are duds with both bat and ball. There is no need to pick an all-rounder for the sake of having one though. At Test level, unless they are genuinely a top six bat or in the best four bowlers, they get found out. Unity is good. I suspect there are too many big heads for it to prevail though. On the plus side, the same could be said of England.

  • landl47 on April 30, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Some thoughts: Hughes isn't on the list of young batsmen, though he's younger than three who are. Has he reached his maximum potential in Inverarity's eyes?

    Only Warner and Khawaja are in the Ashes squad, though the journeyman Cowan, perennially underperforming Watson and veteran Rogers, all over 30, were selected. How do the younger players come through?

    Is Doolan, age 27, FC average under 38, 5 hundreds, really regarded as a top young prospect?

    Agar's mentioned as a test prospect, O'Keefe isn't- I guess we can see where that's going.

    Why would Harris be picked when it's almost a certainty that he won't be fit through the tour? If he breaks down in a test and England wins, as happened in Melbourne in the 2010/11 Ashes tour, then who carries the can? And which promising young seamer makes way for him?

    It's not so much what Inverarity says as the gap between what he says and what we can see happening that's frustrating. Heck, I feel frustrated by it and I'm an England supporter!

  • dutchy on April 30, 2013, 4:55 GMT

    Why no questions about Australia's new enthusiasm for bits and pieces all rounders (eg Maxwell, Henriques)?

  • Mary_786 on April 30, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    Overall a good interview and good to see Inevarity make himself available for the difficult questions. I like the list of young players that Inevarity has listed. And overall I like the squad picked for the ashes, good balance of youth and old in it. My only concern was that wasn't Watson standing down for Australia to Groom new leadership????The Cupboard is pretty bare in terms of leadership but i would have gone for either Warner or Siddle as VC and keep Haddin as keeper. This would have been the perfect time to blood a Warner.Making Haddin VC sends the worse message to the upcoming players.Either way ignoring who VC is the squad is good, younger players such as Khawaja and Warner will fire for us and the experience heads such as Haddin and Clarke will provide the leadership, bring on the ashes.

  • Meety on April 30, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    @Chris_P on (April 30, 2013, 3:27 GMT) - you got that right! Particularly if you note the following question re: Doherty & Maxwell! I would love for Brettig to have delved into Inverarity's comment "...We're very aware of his figures and we do look deeper than that." I read that as - they acknowledge his superior numbers, but don't believe they will translate to Test wickets? @Dan Brettig - great interview, 10 out of 10 for asking the SO'K question, BUT I realy wish you did a "Richard Carlton" on Inverarity, & got him to explain himself further, even a question along the lines of "...in hindsight, do you think it was an error to omit SO'K?" == == == Do you feel that you communicate better in a conversation than in a TV-friendly sound bite? - my gut feeling is he is 1000% better at communicating to the players than to the public via the media!

  • KingofRedLions on April 30, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    Perhaps you should treat him with a bit of respect first then, Chris_P.

  • Chris_P on April 30, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    Invers, you really did dodge the question on why O'Keefe wasn't considered even with the other spinners unavailable. And Maxwell as a test spinner? Please Invers. treat us with a little bit of respect.

  • Chris_P on April 30, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    Invers, you really did dodge the question on why O'Keefe wasn't considered even with the other spinners unavailable. And Maxwell as a test spinner? Please Invers. treat us with a little bit of respect.

  • KingofRedLions on April 30, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    Perhaps you should treat him with a bit of respect first then, Chris_P.

  • Meety on April 30, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    @Chris_P on (April 30, 2013, 3:27 GMT) - you got that right! Particularly if you note the following question re: Doherty & Maxwell! I would love for Brettig to have delved into Inverarity's comment "...We're very aware of his figures and we do look deeper than that." I read that as - they acknowledge his superior numbers, but don't believe they will translate to Test wickets? @Dan Brettig - great interview, 10 out of 10 for asking the SO'K question, BUT I realy wish you did a "Richard Carlton" on Inverarity, & got him to explain himself further, even a question along the lines of "...in hindsight, do you think it was an error to omit SO'K?" == == == Do you feel that you communicate better in a conversation than in a TV-friendly sound bite? - my gut feeling is he is 1000% better at communicating to the players than to the public via the media!

  • Mary_786 on April 30, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    Overall a good interview and good to see Inevarity make himself available for the difficult questions. I like the list of young players that Inevarity has listed. And overall I like the squad picked for the ashes, good balance of youth and old in it. My only concern was that wasn't Watson standing down for Australia to Groom new leadership????The Cupboard is pretty bare in terms of leadership but i would have gone for either Warner or Siddle as VC and keep Haddin as keeper. This would have been the perfect time to blood a Warner.Making Haddin VC sends the worse message to the upcoming players.Either way ignoring who VC is the squad is good, younger players such as Khawaja and Warner will fire for us and the experience heads such as Haddin and Clarke will provide the leadership, bring on the ashes.

  • dutchy on April 30, 2013, 4:55 GMT

    Why no questions about Australia's new enthusiasm for bits and pieces all rounders (eg Maxwell, Henriques)?

  • landl47 on April 30, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Some thoughts: Hughes isn't on the list of young batsmen, though he's younger than three who are. Has he reached his maximum potential in Inverarity's eyes?

    Only Warner and Khawaja are in the Ashes squad, though the journeyman Cowan, perennially underperforming Watson and veteran Rogers, all over 30, were selected. How do the younger players come through?

    Is Doolan, age 27, FC average under 38, 5 hundreds, really regarded as a top young prospect?

    Agar's mentioned as a test prospect, O'Keefe isn't- I guess we can see where that's going.

    Why would Harris be picked when it's almost a certainty that he won't be fit through the tour? If he breaks down in a test and England wins, as happened in Melbourne in the 2010/11 Ashes tour, then who carries the can? And which promising young seamer makes way for him?

    It's not so much what Inverarity says as the gap between what he says and what we can see happening that's frustrating. Heck, I feel frustrated by it and I'm an England supporter!

  • Sunil_Batra on April 30, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    Even though our batting is not at as good as in the 90s we can still win. Watson must be told he must bowl and bat. His batting has fallen away and the ashes must be his tour. As for Cowan. I would start him,and he must convert his starts, i believe he can but he is running out of chances. Hughes will be on notice after the India series but he must fight. Khawaja must get his chance as he has been 12th man since the boxing day test and is one of of our best young batsman whose technique has not been affected by the shorter format. And we must stop picking players who are duds with both bat and ball. There is no need to pick an all-rounder for the sake of having one though. At Test level, unless they are genuinely a top six bat or in the best four bowlers, they get found out. Unity is good. I suspect there are too many big heads for it to prevail though. On the plus side, the same could be said of England.

  • Amith_S on April 30, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    Our batting is nowhere near the 2005 2009 and 2010/11 standard, all of which was overcome, the last time with startling ease.Their bowling depends a bit on who's fit apart from Ando, but there is enough depth and all have experienced knocking over more experienced aussies than these.I'm struggling to see where enough runs will come from. We'll probably start;

    Warner Cowan Hughes Watson Clarke Khawaja

    but after that anything could happen. Khawaja, Cowan and Haddin can get valuable practice in the Aus A games. Khawaja will do well and could be one of our better batsman and Warner could be one to watch out for too. As for the other young players coming through Mitch Marsh will be a good allrounder for the future, Klinger is a guy i have alot of time for and also Quiney, he will come back strong next year

  • .Raina on April 30, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    What sort of selection 'inputs' does your team take Mr. Inverarity?? -- "Steve O'Keefe is a very good cricketer. He's taken wickets, and he's a steady batsman" --- But still you "marginally prefer" other guys who do not have much to show off in their First Class 'Report Card'. It is the same with Khawaja. He has been 'attached' to the test team for a better part of the last two years; but other 'marginal batsmen' are able to grab a place in the playing XI. If limited over cricket continues to be a benchmark for selection in tests, it would of course be impossible to find a 'genuine test player'......

  • goldeneraaus on April 30, 2013, 5:53 GMT

    Some great questions by Brettig, ones that us diehard aussie fans have been wondering ourselves unfortunately Inverarity failed to answer them at all!! His answer about o'keefe was a load of fluff with no meaning, and he completely deflected the question about maxwell and Doherty, and even had the nerve to suggest they performed well?! "doherty gave control" give me a break honestly.. even if he won't admit it publicly he knows they made a grave error picking so many limited overs specialists in the squad to India, because he has rectified that for the Ashes Squad which is by and large excellent given the circumstances, and for that atleast he deserves credit.