West Indies v South Africa, 4th ODI, Dominica May 31, 2010

Gayle sends Benn from the field

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Sulieman Benn has riled opponents and match referees in the past, but he has hit a new low after being ordered off the field by his captain Chris Gayle. During West Indies' seven-wicket loss to South Africa in Dominica, Benn upset Gayle so much by failing to follow instructions that he was told he was no longer required.

"I actually asked him to leave the field,' Gayle told reporters after the game. "As a captain, it was a situation like you ask a particular bowler to do it and he said he had never done certain things before. That's why you have practice sessions, to practise. I asked him to simply bowl over the wicket. I don't see why it should be a problem.

"He wasn't up for it and if you're not up for it, why give that particular bowler the ball. I just see it that he [Benn] doesn't want to take part. It was my call to actually ask him to leave and tell him that he is not needed anymore."

Benn's behavioural issues came to a head during the Perth Test in December, when he was suspended for two ODIs following a clash with Mitchell Johnson and Brad Haddin. He had previously been fined and forced to have counselling after what was labelled "insubordinate" behaviour during a West Indies A tour of England in 2002.

His fiery nature has also been on display at club level, when he was fined after an altercation with an opponent while batting for his Barbados club Spartan. It is unclear whether Benn will play any part in the fifth and final ODI against South Africa in Trinidad on Thursday.

The fourth ODI had a dramatic finish with Dwayne Bravo bowling three consecutive dot balls in the final over, leaving South Africa with one to get off the last delivery. AB de Villiers then played the ball to midwicket and sprinted the single as Darren Sammy fumbled. Gayle praised Bravo for his bowling effort but said that, despite making 303, West Indies should have scored a lot more.

"Credit must go to Bravo for the way he bowled the final over," Gayle said. "But to get 300 runs, and lose was not good. We should have scored at least 30 or 40 more runs based on the start that Dale [Richards] and I gave the team, but we were very disappointing in the middle overs again, too many dot balls. We also missed a few catches, and this is the inconsistency. At times, we do well with the bat, and then turn up and do something completely different with the ball."

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  • SolFish on June 4, 2010, 4:35 GMT

    The decline of this WI team started when Des Haynes was axed when the selectors insisted that he played in all 5 games for Barbados and he missed the first because of his contract obligations in South Africa that year. he was dropped, fast forward to a few years later, Brian Lara after making the WI team hardly ever played for T&T again. talk about respect for rules, same with Chris Gale never lost their place, when it comes to batsmen from Barbados the rules are not applied equally. Pollard scored 100 against B'dos he's now a permanent fixture in WI, Ryan Hinds scored three centuries, cant get a game, while duck farmer Fletcher and company can get extended runs in WI cricket, Dwayne Smith made one poor shot against Zimbabwe was shown the exit door after being 1 of only 2 performers previously against the Aussies, Smith got blamed for the losses against Zimbabwe, after Chanderpaul and Co. were unable to score 1 run from 60 balls,(12 overs), I guess Benn will be blamed for SA whitewash.

  • SolFish on June 4, 2010, 4:02 GMT

    I have no idea which planet the Silva Surfa just came in from, the last 4 years or so only one bajan was in this WI team, Fidel Edwards, when he was out, there was none in the Team go check your records, After Adrian Griffith and Sherwin Campbell broke Greenidge and Haynes record in New Zealand, and the WI lost that match, Adrian Griffith lost his place, the other non performers kept theirs, Sherwin scored 70 in his last match and was dropped, the point I make here is that duck farmers are given extended runs in this WI team, men who couldn't get a place in their local team, got selected, Bajans are belatedly selected, then fired in a hurry, Floyd Reifer , Ryan Hinds, Roland Holder, all performed for Bim year after year, and were lucky if they played more than 2 consecutive tests, lest you forget it was 2 level headed Bajans who brought home WI last trophy, the Champions Trophy a couple years ago Brown and Bradshaw.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 3, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    In reply to samking73.

    You claim that there were no Bajans during the losing streak of the last 20 years. Well i'd like to challenge that statement. Does the names Philo Wallace, Adrian Griffiths, Sherwin Campbell, Roland Holder, Floyd Reifer, Ryan Hinds, Courtney Browne, Patterson Thompson, Otis Gibson, Pedro Collins, Corey Collymore, Ian Bradshaw and Tino Best ring any bells at all? Decent cricketers, but hardly set the world alight at International level did they? Comparing the dominance of the Bajan players had from the pre 80s to that generation just mentioned, is a huge gap. I admit that Politics dictated the selection of certain players, but having that group of players in the Windies team on a regular basis would've made no difference to the failure that is common throughout the Caribbean.

  • SolFish on June 3, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    I guess this will be the beginning of anarchy, any captain can order his right arm fast bowler to bowl left arm leg spin and if he doesn't comply get him ordered off the field and forfeit his match fees in the process, I remembered my dad lost his job in similar circumstances years ago, if he followed orders he was considered stupid and fired, if he didn't he would be fired for refusing to obey orders. I see here that Dwayne Smith was made a scape goat for the losses against Zimbabwe, basically the same ten are still playing and losing now Benn is being scapegoated for the South African losses. For many years when WI were winning we had at least 5 Bajans in the team, in the last 20 years this team has been on a losing streak, they had over 6 Trinis in it with Brian Lara, they still lost, they had over 6 Jamaicans in it still lost, during the last 20 years many times you couldn't find one Bajan in this team, each time we raise the point we're called insular, proud to be insular.

  • long_handle9 on June 2, 2010, 23:35 GMT

    Gayle is not careless or indifferent...I think he cares more about winning than the rest of the team (bar Bravo) put together! How many times have we seen him singlehandedly towing the boat along? I honestly feel sorry for the fellow; just because of a careless overhyped remark (about Test cricket) he made in England last year, people jump to the conclusion that he's careless and flax. Listen (in ODIs at least) Gayle is West Indies' most consistent performer, period. Have a look at his stats if you don't believe me, he almost always contribute with either bat, ball or both. sure he struggled for form in Australia during the ODIs, but who doesn't? And I have no problem against consolidation during ODIs or any other format, but Chanderpaul rarely rarely reads the match situation. I remember an utterly selfish and poorly paced hundred Chanmderpaul made vs Pakistan in 2008...it was comfortably among the worst innings I've seen. He's class, but Gayle, Bravo and Sarwan are way better

  • on June 2, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    gayle at his best against his own team met..............

  • Silva-Surfa on June 2, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    I think i can guess that the majority of people who are defending Benn are from Barbados. You shouldn't let local bias cloud what Benn has done here. Regardless of whether you like Gayle or not, he is the Captain on the field and therefore should be respected by the players, not rebelled. People can criticise Gayle all they want, but the bottom line is since the strike of the senior players last year, Chris Gayle has easily been the most consistant batsman for the Windies. People clearly have short memories about his efforts in the second and third test against the Aussies. Try looking at the bigger picture instead of only being interested in your own Islands. I hear that some Bajans are saying that they will boycott if they see Gayle playing in Barbados. Well this holds about as much substance as when you boycotted all those years ago because that fearsome bowler, who was Anderson Cummings wasn't selected.

  • Arjun.Siva on June 2, 2010, 7:05 GMT

    @ Punanydan - perhaps there were footmarks outside the right handed batsman's leg stump. In any case, Just because Gayle was also insubordinate doesnt mean Benn is justified in doing what he did. There is a difference between having a contrary opinion and disobeying your captain. benn obviously doesnt know that difference.

    Whether it's Ponting, Dhoni, Smith or any other captain - they wouldve sent their bowler off too. One can voice an opinion abt what one feels should be done, but after that if ur captain tells u to bowl a certain way, you jolly well do it! Just because Gayle keeps losing doesnt make insubordination correct.

  • Punanydan on June 2, 2010, 1:10 GMT

    Was there going to be an advantage in a left arm bowler, bowling over the wicket to a right handed batsman? In my opinion, that seemed like a stupid thing to do. I believe Benn also saw it as pure ignorance as well. That approach would be like surrendering and playing defensive cricket and at that point in the game you needed wickets. I am not certain what Gayle's issues are but it seems like he does not have a clue how to captain a team. I am not saying that Benn should not have done as he was told but when the game is finished. It is the statistics that people see in the end.

  • on June 2, 2010, 1:09 GMT

    To Kenny Antione and Fitzdrumz: My mistake, now that I think about it I reckon Gus Logie was the substitute fielder who replaced Richard Gabriel. Got a feeling it was the tied one day final, but not sure.

  • SolFish on June 4, 2010, 4:35 GMT

    The decline of this WI team started when Des Haynes was axed when the selectors insisted that he played in all 5 games for Barbados and he missed the first because of his contract obligations in South Africa that year. he was dropped, fast forward to a few years later, Brian Lara after making the WI team hardly ever played for T&T again. talk about respect for rules, same with Chris Gale never lost their place, when it comes to batsmen from Barbados the rules are not applied equally. Pollard scored 100 against B'dos he's now a permanent fixture in WI, Ryan Hinds scored three centuries, cant get a game, while duck farmer Fletcher and company can get extended runs in WI cricket, Dwayne Smith made one poor shot against Zimbabwe was shown the exit door after being 1 of only 2 performers previously against the Aussies, Smith got blamed for the losses against Zimbabwe, after Chanderpaul and Co. were unable to score 1 run from 60 balls,(12 overs), I guess Benn will be blamed for SA whitewash.

  • SolFish on June 4, 2010, 4:02 GMT

    I have no idea which planet the Silva Surfa just came in from, the last 4 years or so only one bajan was in this WI team, Fidel Edwards, when he was out, there was none in the Team go check your records, After Adrian Griffith and Sherwin Campbell broke Greenidge and Haynes record in New Zealand, and the WI lost that match, Adrian Griffith lost his place, the other non performers kept theirs, Sherwin scored 70 in his last match and was dropped, the point I make here is that duck farmers are given extended runs in this WI team, men who couldn't get a place in their local team, got selected, Bajans are belatedly selected, then fired in a hurry, Floyd Reifer , Ryan Hinds, Roland Holder, all performed for Bim year after year, and were lucky if they played more than 2 consecutive tests, lest you forget it was 2 level headed Bajans who brought home WI last trophy, the Champions Trophy a couple years ago Brown and Bradshaw.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 3, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    In reply to samking73.

    You claim that there were no Bajans during the losing streak of the last 20 years. Well i'd like to challenge that statement. Does the names Philo Wallace, Adrian Griffiths, Sherwin Campbell, Roland Holder, Floyd Reifer, Ryan Hinds, Courtney Browne, Patterson Thompson, Otis Gibson, Pedro Collins, Corey Collymore, Ian Bradshaw and Tino Best ring any bells at all? Decent cricketers, but hardly set the world alight at International level did they? Comparing the dominance of the Bajan players had from the pre 80s to that generation just mentioned, is a huge gap. I admit that Politics dictated the selection of certain players, but having that group of players in the Windies team on a regular basis would've made no difference to the failure that is common throughout the Caribbean.

  • SolFish on June 3, 2010, 5:59 GMT

    I guess this will be the beginning of anarchy, any captain can order his right arm fast bowler to bowl left arm leg spin and if he doesn't comply get him ordered off the field and forfeit his match fees in the process, I remembered my dad lost his job in similar circumstances years ago, if he followed orders he was considered stupid and fired, if he didn't he would be fired for refusing to obey orders. I see here that Dwayne Smith was made a scape goat for the losses against Zimbabwe, basically the same ten are still playing and losing now Benn is being scapegoated for the South African losses. For many years when WI were winning we had at least 5 Bajans in the team, in the last 20 years this team has been on a losing streak, they had over 6 Trinis in it with Brian Lara, they still lost, they had over 6 Jamaicans in it still lost, during the last 20 years many times you couldn't find one Bajan in this team, each time we raise the point we're called insular, proud to be insular.

  • long_handle9 on June 2, 2010, 23:35 GMT

    Gayle is not careless or indifferent...I think he cares more about winning than the rest of the team (bar Bravo) put together! How many times have we seen him singlehandedly towing the boat along? I honestly feel sorry for the fellow; just because of a careless overhyped remark (about Test cricket) he made in England last year, people jump to the conclusion that he's careless and flax. Listen (in ODIs at least) Gayle is West Indies' most consistent performer, period. Have a look at his stats if you don't believe me, he almost always contribute with either bat, ball or both. sure he struggled for form in Australia during the ODIs, but who doesn't? And I have no problem against consolidation during ODIs or any other format, but Chanderpaul rarely rarely reads the match situation. I remember an utterly selfish and poorly paced hundred Chanmderpaul made vs Pakistan in 2008...it was comfortably among the worst innings I've seen. He's class, but Gayle, Bravo and Sarwan are way better

  • on June 2, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    gayle at his best against his own team met..............

  • Silva-Surfa on June 2, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    I think i can guess that the majority of people who are defending Benn are from Barbados. You shouldn't let local bias cloud what Benn has done here. Regardless of whether you like Gayle or not, he is the Captain on the field and therefore should be respected by the players, not rebelled. People can criticise Gayle all they want, but the bottom line is since the strike of the senior players last year, Chris Gayle has easily been the most consistant batsman for the Windies. People clearly have short memories about his efforts in the second and third test against the Aussies. Try looking at the bigger picture instead of only being interested in your own Islands. I hear that some Bajans are saying that they will boycott if they see Gayle playing in Barbados. Well this holds about as much substance as when you boycotted all those years ago because that fearsome bowler, who was Anderson Cummings wasn't selected.

  • Arjun.Siva on June 2, 2010, 7:05 GMT

    @ Punanydan - perhaps there were footmarks outside the right handed batsman's leg stump. In any case, Just because Gayle was also insubordinate doesnt mean Benn is justified in doing what he did. There is a difference between having a contrary opinion and disobeying your captain. benn obviously doesnt know that difference.

    Whether it's Ponting, Dhoni, Smith or any other captain - they wouldve sent their bowler off too. One can voice an opinion abt what one feels should be done, but after that if ur captain tells u to bowl a certain way, you jolly well do it! Just because Gayle keeps losing doesnt make insubordination correct.

  • Punanydan on June 2, 2010, 1:10 GMT

    Was there going to be an advantage in a left arm bowler, bowling over the wicket to a right handed batsman? In my opinion, that seemed like a stupid thing to do. I believe Benn also saw it as pure ignorance as well. That approach would be like surrendering and playing defensive cricket and at that point in the game you needed wickets. I am not certain what Gayle's issues are but it seems like he does not have a clue how to captain a team. I am not saying that Benn should not have done as he was told but when the game is finished. It is the statistics that people see in the end.

  • on June 2, 2010, 1:09 GMT

    To Kenny Antione and Fitzdrumz: My mistake, now that I think about it I reckon Gus Logie was the substitute fielder who replaced Richard Gabriel. Got a feeling it was the tied one day final, but not sure.

  • shamicmat on June 1, 2010, 22:32 GMT

    METMAN++++++++ I DONT understand what u saying . are you saying the BEN is right or wrong??? dont be ridiculous it will not be the same case if gayle ask ramdin to keep up to roach.we all know that ben could bowl over the wicket after all he is a professional. I think if the CAP ask a player to do something the player should do it.i am very happy that gayle did what he did. ANY bet that Ben will be more respectful now? (how many keeper do you know that keep up to a bowler who bowl 90 mph?) Metman

  • justint1995 on June 1, 2010, 21:38 GMT

    Benn had a game plan, he wanted to stick with it and Gayle should have just let him. Benn knows his own game better than what Gayle does so why interfere and then send him home?

  • on June 1, 2010, 19:27 GMT

    I hear persons speaking about Benn being made a scapegoat. and Gayle not being the sharpest tool in the shed, and about other players being in-disciplined. Listen the bottom line is, Gayle is the captain, full stop. If he tells Benn to bowl around the wicket then he has too. A few people even said that Gayle should have handled it diff, i totally agree with how Gayle handled the situation. Benn isn't even a good enough cricketer to get away with an attitude like that, frankly, no cricketer should be allowed to get away with the stunt that Benn pulled. He shouldn't have just been sent off the field, he should have been sent home. For all we know Gayle prob spoke, and have been speaking to Benn about his attitude for a long time now, and yesterday he prob just had enough. I agree that Gayle has been playing a lot of really irresponsible shots, and he should definitely admonish himself first, but he is the captain, and when he gives a directive to a player they should listen.

  • hazeltine on June 1, 2010, 16:36 GMT

    Sending Benn off the field is not really the issue in my opinion. The issue is that whilst he has played for the WIndies, Gayle has displayed an indifference to batting,the captaincy, West Indies Cricket Board and the manager. The experienced and the young players in the WIndies set up, see this and not surprisingly, reason that if this is how the Captain of the team is going to behave, then WHY SHOULD THEY BEHAVE ANY DIFFERENT. When they were captains, Lloyd and Richards set an example in showing discipline and as result, EXPECTED IT FROM EVERYBODY ELSE AND GOT IT! Until the culture of discipline is restored back into WIndies culture they will not, NOR DESERVE to get back into the top echelons of world cricket.

  • Metman on June 1, 2010, 16:32 GMT

    To those people who say that Gayle was right to send off Benn,as Proud westindian said that if Gayle had asked Ramdin to come up to say Kemar Roach,and had refused ,would he have been sent off too?afterall he is a wicketkeeper and he should be able to come up to both spin and pace.So although I agree that players should obey all SENSIBLE directions from the skipper,one must ask these questions(1)Was this matter discussed during the practise sessions,and what was Benns reaction?Was it discussed before the toss,and what was Benns reaction?Was it put to Benn during the match?well we all know Benns reaction then. I must repeat ,I am not against Jamaicans and Gayle.Someone said that you all dont have an attitude problem,but that you are opionated,nothing wrong with that,but when someone other than Jamaican is opionated,they should be disciplined.Double standards,my brother!

  • proudWestindian on June 1, 2010, 13:08 GMT

    TM_G, you claim that Benn has behaviour problems, what about Gayle? Remember this is the same person that said he don't want any curfew and that he's considering not playing test cricket anymore. If Ramdin had came up to the stumps to wicket keep behind Rampaul and Gayle asked him to go back off the stumps, would he have been sent off too? Gayle should be sent off for te way he has being getting out. One of you guys, said that Gayle is a better bowler than Benn but I want you to produce the statistics that prove that.

  • on June 1, 2010, 12:27 GMT

    HI FITZDRUMZ,THANKS FOR REMINDING MR DAN DOWDELL

  • Metman on June 1, 2010, 10:47 GMT

    Someone said Benn orchestrated,escalated and perpetrated the Perth incident ?That person not only needs glasses,he needs to be told that you watch a tape from the beginning,not from the end and come forward.Look,from what I saw from the start,it all started when Haddin pointed his bat and said something to Benn after the run was completed,and Benn reacted. This latest Benn issue is the distraction that Gayle orchestrated to keep the pressure off himself,but the pressure will be back on him on thursday,and he will look for another scapegoat,because Benn will not be there.Of course ,Shane Shillingford will be picked,it doesnt take an Einstein to see that.Benn bowls with a slight round arm action,and to tell him to bowl from the other side of the wicket,he would have to go fairly wide to avoid hitting the stumps/ Umpire,or he would have to adjust his action slightly.Every body cant bowl from both sides of the wicket and be comfortable.Of course,players should obey reasonable requests.

  • fitzdrumz on June 1, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    Hi Andre, It was Richard Gabriel from Trinidad who Viv Richards sent off the field in Australia - not Gus Logie!

  • andrew-schulz on June 1, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    TMG you've got it totally wrong. The Perth incident was orchestrated, escalated, and perpetrated entirely by Benn. Haddin and Johnson simply reacted. Lucky the match referee had more brains than you and Tony Greig and others who obviously did not watch what happened. Benn is a goose who needs to totally have a hard look at himself.

  • Proteas_Supporter on June 1, 2010, 7:35 GMT

    Well its going from bad to worse for the WI now after their performances recently. benn should have obeyed gayle. but benn have been in spot of bother for fairly a long time as we sew in AUS and as the author of this article suggests. gayle is a much better bowler and more experienced than benn. he should have simply gone with the way the captain is going. and there are lot of spin bowling options in the country and why do you persist with benn who is less significant in picking up wkts. atlast a humongous effort from amla and co and maintain the tempo for the tests as well. kudos to amla. he is going from better to probably the best........

  • on June 1, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    Benn has bowled 14 overs for 65 runs and taken 2 wickets at an average of just over 4 runs an over in the two matches he has played. He did not bowl over the wicket. There was no problem then. does gayle do everything the coaches ask him to do, I dont think so or his returns for this series would be much better.Let get a captain, please.

  • Mels04 on June 1, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    Benn should have known better not to disrespect his capt, Gayle and his troops shouldn't beat themself becos RSA is just one of promising team just like England. When was the last time RSA had won major cup? and when was last time had won major cup except 2010 T20 world cup? West Indies has very few matchwinners i.e. Galye, John Bravo and depend on mood like Sammy and Pollard. RSA matchwinners are AB, Parnell, Kallis as allrounding performance including fielding but bad as vice or capt and lately Alma after successful Indian tour, and recent west indies ODI tour. I just wish him to keep on playing well unlike Albie and Dumminy who are too incosistance. Wait until we meet Afridi and his troops, i bet that it will be the replica of what Eng cri had done in 2009-2010 RSA tour.

  • daleb on June 1, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    Folks this team is not playing well, sometimes you have to send a message to the team and if sending Benn off accomplishes that then it was worth it. Metman give it a rest, Gayle is not the first and will not be last to let an uncooperative player know that his services are no longer needed.

    tr

  • TM_G on June 1, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Benn has behavior problems. He should fix it or he will be forced out. Wish the report did not include the Aussie incident as an example. That was Aussie's fault - and as always, they got away.

  • on June 1, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    I can remember Viv Richards sending Gus Logie off the field in a one dayer against the Aussies in the mid eighties. This is the type of hard-nosed approach the W.I need from their captain and I applaud Gayle for it. To be successful a team must play for each other, and if the captain asks you to do something diffrent, one should feel that the captain has confidence that you can do what he asks and give it your best shot.

  • on June 1, 2010, 4:13 GMT

    Putting individual performances aside ,I beleive Gayle should have dealt with this matter behind the scenes. The name calling was not necessary and he could have dealt with the issue with a bit more diplomacy on and off the field.On the field he should have allowed him to remain and not bowl and then off the field reprimand him and fine him then drop him for the final match. If Benn really cannot bowl over the wicket as he says then we are in a sad state if he is our best spinner. Really i think he was just being insubordinate and should be disciplined .

  • Zahidsaltin on June 1, 2010, 4:09 GMT

    LOOK at these comments, all of them are like a war between the islands. FACT is so clear, Ben should have bowled over the wicket as per wished by his captain. Every bowler, I mean each and every who has played club cricket, can bowl over and round the wickets. So be fair and support the one who is right instead of mentioning old stories about Jamaicans. I think its time for Ben to go home and work on his attitude if he is not ready to go and appologize to his captain and co-players.

  • fato on June 1, 2010, 3:57 GMT

    indicpline and insularity,thats what WI cricket about.thats the reaons why WI in doldrums.there are better bowlers than benn,dave mohammed ,amit jajjernaut.permaul,but our 3 wise men are blind like the 3 mouse.mohammed played a couple of games and was discarded.and gale is no better ,blaming others and he cant bat 15 overs.its simple a team needs a good start ,so you less pressue in the middlr order.

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 1, 2010, 3:37 GMT

    this is not a jamaican thing its a west indies thing we are no more indisciplined in cricket than anybody else. we may be opinionated but thats jus how we are. & metman look @ Walsh as an example when Lara basically pushed him aside & took over the captaincy did walsh bad mouth him or stop performing? no! bcause he loved west indies cricket. that is our problem! these set of guys from top right down 2 the bottom dont love the cricket or region enough 2 give of there best under all circumstances like a walsh or a ambrose or a marshall would have done. That is Y we keep on losing

  • Rajin_27 on June 1, 2010, 2:32 GMT

    ethel does not get the point of this discussion.No one said that benn was the cause of the windies slump.How can a bowler not be able to bowl on either side of the wicket? even school boys can do this.If your captain asks you to do something then you give it your all for the sake of the team.The entire team is to blame but it is better to tried and fail than to failed to try.I think some of the players are really trying, I really do but the last thing you need in your team is insolence contaminating the mind of the younger players.This team is gonna do well in the future they just need to get a right balance and work as a team.

  • on June 1, 2010, 2:11 GMT

    Lemme see

    Gayle 219 ODIS 154 wickets @ 34.78

    Benn 18 ODI 13 wickets @ 49.84

    Man, just shut up and bowl what the Cappo tell you to.

    Benn has always been a bad seed and he was chosen to the Windies team ahead of many other spinners who were more deserving - Dave Mohammed, Amit Jaggernauth, Nikita Miller, Shane Shillingford and a few other.

    He has had run in at various levels and I think it is time to bid adieu to him and anyone else who feel that they can do as they please

  • Rajin_27 on June 1, 2010, 2:04 GMT

    metman is both right and wrong at the same time.Gayle should be fined cuz there was no injury to benn.Benn can be replaced as a bowler be should not have been able to leave the field and have a substitute unless he was injured which was not the case as gayle pointed out however gayle also said he asked benn to bowl from the other side of the wicket and he was unable to comply.Any bowler that can't bowl on both sides of the wicket should not be playing at that level.Tell me what use is he ?I predict shillinford will be his replacement in the next game.If it was up to me I would replace that whole team with the T&T team !!!

  • jamol on June 1, 2010, 1:01 GMT

    i think that chris gayle as a captain should have reasoned wit Ben.....im not shure of wat really transpired in the middle but as one of the better bowlers in this weakenend windies bowling attack he should not have been sent off.........gayle is more like a bully than a captain.....you dont demand respect you earn it.......just think of wat a captain like ricky ponting or even G.smith would have done shurely not send off one of their better bowlers....especially in a loosing streak.........i personally think gayle needs to go as captain,give dw bravo a chance

  • on June 1, 2010, 0:56 GMT

    This is what happens when you make the "Bad Boy" your captain.Gayle lacks leadership ability for months we have been having poor starts in comes Dale Richards and out scores the mighty Gayle. Does Gayle appreciate this no, rather than stand up and bat he plays his ugly shot and edges to slip, how many times has he done this before.

    He fails and blames everyone else but himself, but Gayle I don't blame you I blame the board which allows you display your ignorance. Benn is no saint but to insist that you bowl as I say or leave the field is the hallmark of ignorance.But it goes further than that last year Benn had England in trouble and claimed about four wickets or getting bounce and turn.The following test in Guyana Gayle bowled himself before Benn to no effect.Gayle you may have heard that we West Indians have short memory but you and your buddies lack talent.

  • clint35 on May 31, 2010, 23:40 GMT

    Now thats why WI cricket cant go anywhere the insularity , look if the captin ask a player to bowl according to plan and he cant why should he not get rid of him ? come on man stop the bashing ok .If Ponting asked Lee to bowl round the wicket to a bats man because he would . The captin is the team strategist he is to think on the field as well as carry out plans from the back room

  • Metman on May 31, 2010, 22:37 GMT

    No Richiescotty,I dont dislike Jamaicans and Chris Gayle.Those are facts that I am stating,not my words,and I come with facts .You know and I know that the Jamaicans were the ones that gave the most trouble in the past,that is a fact ,some of them were even sent home from tours in the past,that is a fact too,but everyone or most of you think that Benn is the worst of the lot.Benn didnt pull no knife on anyone like someone did and still played cricket for the W.I.Viv Richards sent off Richard Gabriel in Australia sometime ago.I think that Chris Gayle is still the best man to lead the W.I,however ,he should have handled the matter differently.So when I come with with facts ,dont say that I dont like Jamaicans and Chris Gayle.Benn is not the first W.I.cricketer to disobey the captains instructions on the field.,he did not deliberately drag his feet out of the crease only to be stumped like someone did in the past.He didnt put his hand behind his back and sulk when did not get his way.

  • vish1036 on May 31, 2010, 22:19 GMT

    Metman your points are extremely flawed...can't bowl around the wicket? thats a load...Benn is a PROFESSIONAL anything Gayle asks that has to do with bowling spin he should be able to or else why else would he be in the team...if I were Gayle, Benn would never play in my team ever again...and thats coming from a Bajan.

  • lucyferr on May 31, 2010, 21:23 GMT

    The West Indies needs to stop playing ODIs and concentrate on T20s as the more interesting form of the game is more suited to Caribbean flair. Enough with these dumb 50 over contests already. (Mind you, that's a general statement - bowlers should still obey their captains in T20s.)

  • RichieScotty on May 31, 2010, 21:22 GMT

    I say left Imran Khan play in place of Benn. Khan looks more eager to seems to be a better all round cricketer.

  • Dreeny on May 31, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    Please do not bring Brian Lara into this discussion. He is a jerk. He spent all his years in the team trying to usurp Richie Richardson.

  • on May 31, 2010, 21:06 GMT

    if you cant bowl to the captain's field or plan then there is no use for you..so i agree with gayle there

  • on May 31, 2010, 20:55 GMT

    In the glory days of W.I. cricket,You would have the Holdings,Richards,Roberts,Garners,etc..The difference.they were true professionals.It's now become a thing that Gayle is from Jamaica so he shouldn't give instruction to somebody from another Island.Someone said Ben is a millionaire and that won't hurt his pocket,let him go invest in some stocks, then he can go through life without people telling him what to do. Gayle is amillionaire too and doesn't need the stress..

  • on May 31, 2010, 20:46 GMT

    the team in not operating at as a unit and some members show no respect for the game and the team plus chasing a lot of runs u have to bowl well ,,maybe he should be dropped for the next game and bring in another spinner

  • cricketdebator on May 31, 2010, 19:45 GMT

    I beg to dissagree with some of my fellow writers above, in particular my good friend "Metman". Regardless to our varying views about Gayle, the fact is, he is the captain, and it is the duty of every other player on the team to obey the captain's directives on field, whether or not they agree. Personally, Benn does not even strike me as being a cricketer ( 'doesn't even look like like one), and now that he has demonstrates this un-cricket-like behavior, I think we should just simply forget about him as far as being a member of the WI team is concerned. So, hats off to Gayle for showing leadership and "'guts" by his action. And by the way, before I go, I want to ask you guys a question:- Is there any truth in the story that Viv Richards did something similar to Winston Bengiman on one ocassion?

  • Metman on May 31, 2010, 19:05 GMT

    As I was saying ,did Chris Gayle notified the Umpires and the opposing captain that he did indeed sent off Suliman Benn?Why was he allowed a substitute?As far as I know,he should not have been allowed a substitute.Did the W.I.gained an advantage in the field with the substitute.What would have happened if the W.I.had won?As far as I know ,the West Indies should have been allowed to field with 10 men.I think the match referee,the Umpires and the ICC ,should get to the bottom of this,and exposed Chris Gayle for what he is,a cricket dunce ,that is only looking for scapegoats when his team loses.

  • kobler on May 31, 2010, 18:55 GMT

    Although Gayle is not the poster boy for discipline he is the Captain and Benn has to respect that. He should not have called his name though. WI cricket does not need this at all. Benn was wrong and will pay. Maybe we should start importing SA players that seems to be working well for another Test playing nation which I will not name. They are a good Trott right now as a result and they are discipline players even if they are a disgraceful to their country.

  • RichieScotty on May 31, 2010, 18:47 GMT

    Metman, careful in showing your dislike for Jamaicans and Gayle, seem's to be personal. Whether or not Gayle was insubordinate in the past, it does not make it ok for other players to do the same.

    Some of f the players lack discipline, pride and professionalism. Gayle is not in the best position to reprimand anyone given the way he got out in the last few matches, however, someone needs to do it.

    The current problems are not unique to the current team. Changing the captain will not help base on what we have seen over the last 10-15 years with at least 6 different captains getting the same result. Players not showing commitment, discipline, professionalism and even common sense should be dropped from the team. We need a strong leader who is not afraid to tak tough actions.

    I think Gayle is sending the right message by sending Benn off. Gayle needs a similar message too.

  • Metman on May 31, 2010, 18:42 GMT

    So if Chris Gayle was to tell Suliman Benn to take a longer run ,and to bowl a few short balls to Duminy because he doesnt like short pitch bowling,should he measure a longer run ,put down his marker and come tearing in with some bouncers?because we dont have any left hand medium pacers in the team?Look at Benns action,look where his left arm comes from.Would he be comfortable bowling round the wicket?Only he knows that,and if he told his captain that,he (Gayle) should have understood that.I think Gayle wanted to make that an issue in case he suffered another defeat,and lo and behold,he was defeated.Benn is not the only one that should take an attitude check.When Lara was skipper,it was said that most of the Jamaicans needed an attitude check,and Chris Gayle was one of them.If a captain sends off a player,could he be allowed a substitute?He should be grateful to Greame Smith and the Umpires.If he didnt tell them,he should be fined and reported to the ICC.

  • grayskunk on May 31, 2010, 18:28 GMT

    It is one thing to say to your captain I don't think that will work but if thats what you want I will do my best but another to refuse to bowl round the wicket if that is what transpired.

    I like Benn as a bowler he offers something different not many spinners as tall as him around and he can be a handful when there is bounce in the wicket, if his attitude is a problem then the Captain and/or management need to address it but I am not sure in the middle of a game was the right time to do this. I am with ETHEL and her comment that Gayle never seems to play sensibly and for the team just tries to smash everything and this does not alter the fact he is an awesome player but terribly inconsistent the best players can adapt to the required situation. The captain is influential and if his players see him giving his wicket away which he does a lot then that kind of attitude is going to rub off on the team.

  • on May 31, 2010, 18:07 GMT

    its funny bcz yesterday i havnt recognise whether watching street cricket or international match sorry but Paki n Windies are brother on ground of indicipline n never learn n thths our strength cz we caan hit soo low other not even think

  • daleb on May 31, 2010, 17:51 GMT

    Why are some people dumping on Gayle over this? An international player unable to bowl according to his captain's direction, Sulieman if you cannot do it you do not deserve to be playing international cricket. The West Indies team does not lack talent, it lacks discipline in behavior and discipline in how they approach their craft. Until West Indian players and their enablers come to the realization that sheer talent is not sufficient to win at the international level, this team will languish at the level of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe..

  • Jambo22 on May 31, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    You cannot possibly blame Gayle for this. The captain is the boss, whether you like it or not, and it is up to the players to do what he says (as long as it is in the spirit of the game). If the captain asks you to bowl over the wicket, that's what you do. Gayle's stock has risen in my book as a result of this and I hope it benefits the team. You can't tolerate disrespect and disobedience like this in international cricket.

  • Metman on May 31, 2010, 17:03 GMT

    This one is for dhlamini ,Chris Gayle should be sent too!and by the way ,Benn is already a millionaire,so it cant hurt his pocket.Congrats ,Big Benn,we are behind you.You are not the only villian in the team,and every body who follows cricket knows that.

  • Metman on May 31, 2010, 16:23 GMT

    Weusi Bennet,and where did Benn get this disease from?Did he not get it from gayle and the other Jamaicans in the past?We all know that the Jamaicans are the most indicipline people in W.I. cricket.If you doubt me make someone who is not a Jamaican- captain, and you would see all the indicipline mainly from the Jamaicans, come out of the woodwork.Gayle stood up to his captains,namely the selectors and the Board.So what is the difference now?and who are the others who didnt follow instructions?He himself did not follow instructions from the selectors and the Board,and he should have been dismissed as captain.Dont make Benn a scapegoat for the indicipline in the team.BENN STOOD UP TO YOU.Remember how you used to stir up strife in the team when Lara was captain?You are not a leader ,and you will do no better as Lara as captain.

  • on May 31, 2010, 15:22 GMT

    Well done to Mr. Gayle.While Big Ben should not be made a total Scapegoat for W.i.inability to win,he should be checked out for any loose screws..If you are a bowler, you should be able to go over, or around the wicket, at any given time.If not don't call yourself a bowler.Personally,I don't know why anybody would want to captain W.I. team..One of these days this team will be the only without a captain........to much problem dealing with these arrogants..

  • on May 31, 2010, 14:41 GMT

    This is the problem WI cricket is facing, players like Ben pass on the disease to other players who really want to play and represent WI what example will Ben set for the likes of young Bravo who batted so beautyfully the younger players need people with discipline to look up to it`s not just about playing cricket you must follow instructions on the field, well done Chris.

  • Ethel on May 31, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    Gentlemen, stop hiding your heads in the sand. As I have said before there is something definitely wrong in the W.I camp and instead of doing something about it they have allowed it to fester so much so that they have to kill someone for it. Dwayne smith`s departure from this series is not to take for granted...allegedly swearing from both the Captain and Smith because of the way he approached the last game smith played and only one person was castigated. Guys follow the situation misfielding, dropping catches, players feeling pain, players being sent off the field etc, etc. Is this a team that wants to play together? Of course not! Gayle you think that test cricket should die then why do you want to be the captain? When was the last time that someone asked you to stop trying to slug at every ball and apply yourself? Have you done it? I am sure you approached Benn in an unpleasant manner and furthermore if you as captain asked your bowler to bowl over the wicket and he refused there

  • nauroze123456 on May 31, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    Well, all those who are commenting on why Gayle has anything to say to Benn, just keep in your mind the fact that Gayle himself is a bowler . While Benn is a better bowler ( which can be debated because Gayle has a better average), Gayle is much more experienced on the international scale.

  • sameeullah on May 31, 2010, 13:51 GMT

    @haydenblair first of all bowling from "over the wicket" or "round the wicket" is not flaw.its mental thing.suppose as a bowler i think that i can save runs and take wickets if i bowl from "over the wicket" and captain says me to bowl from round the wicket which make me uncomfortable, so the question is why should i bowl from round the wicket if i feel that not good for me and team? seems MR Gayle just couldn't put his ego on side.he should have seen the result not the way.If somebody says to gayle to bat with right hand if spinners bowl to him will he do? answer is no becuase its not his strong side.Doesn't matter how many paractice sessions he takes.And how could he send a player out of field?If he couldn't not manage his players well on the field then he don't have right to lead them.May be benn is bit agressive in nature but bolwers are always aggresive no new thing in it.So Mr Gayle need to leave his Ego out of field and Critise people on wat they deserve.

  • KDoc on May 31, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    Way to go Captain Gayle!! Take control of the team and penalize those that are insubordinate; there are others knocking on the door, waiting on their turn to make the team; don't waste time on the ones that are not contributing to a winning cause. Start taking notice of those that do not value their wicket as well.

  • BernardLavi on May 31, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    Obviously Chris Gayle is looking for someone to blame for the fiasco in Dominica. After getting off to a good start we could not sustain the momentum. Gayle should have sent a note out to Chanderpaul to get on with the game. Better yet Chanderpaul should have had the decency to give his wicket away so that someone else can come in. All those dot balls killed our march towards the 350 mark on a good batting pitch.

  • Ninavukalil on May 31, 2010, 12:05 GMT

    Its a stupid Quotes by Gayle, May be he is a good player but not a good captain... he should respect the individuals.. Fire with existing guns & bullets on the target.. He got a fighting target and his stupid decision ( he never take any such steps called decision :) ) throw match from his hand....

  • haydenblair on May 31, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    while i agree practise sessions are there for players to develop their craft and correct any identifiable flaws..........when or where or how often for that matter does a captain tell a bowler how to bowl ????? if this is the case why doesnt big chris send himself off when he plays an injudicious stroke or dinesh ramdin when he fails with the bat or why was andre fletcher not told on field he wasnt needed or why is kieron pollard allowed time and time again to remain on field ???????? knowing sulieman personally yes there are problems with discipline but is he now a scapegoat for failures within a team that is packed with professional indicipline ?????? if that is the case many players including you chris gayle should be told they are no longer required in the game

  • on May 31, 2010, 11:39 GMT

    Benn really needs to get his act together he is good at times but for him to not know what to do at a critical period is very disappointing.As for the team to even get to 300 was a lil surprising for me,but I do commend them for their efforts .They need to keep a tighter field and why haven't they played D Smith. He needs to be given a chance.

  • sanjay37 on May 31, 2010, 10:57 GMT

    Welll Done Gayle!! All praise to you.Players like Benn,Srisanth and many other Aussie players should be shown doors permanently on their rude behaviour.After all cricket is a Gentelmen's game.

  • on May 31, 2010, 9:50 GMT

    well, gayle IS the captain

  • jonesy2 on May 31, 2010, 8:59 GMT

    good captaining from gayle, well done.

  • dhlamini on May 31, 2010, 8:23 GMT

    Benn should be sent for anger and "respect your captain & elder" counselling. WICB must ban him fro Test/ODI's/T20's for one year. wen it hurts the pocket he'll learn fast.

  • sameeullah on May 31, 2010, 8:06 GMT

    @Aussie-07 dear as you may know that benn is blower not a bastmen.and from experience i can tell u that some bowlers have just one or two shots.what ever u say them they will play it. and mainly i think that chasing is bastmen's work not bowlers so watever bowlers give team in form of runs thats extra.u should critisize WI bastmen rather then benn. and i don't think that Captian should tell a good bowler to bowl here or there.A captain can give bowler the field to bowl and its upto Bowler to bowl.if bowler feel confortable with round the wicket then why the captain is going to say him bowl from round the wicket? What captain should have done if he think that if Bowler bowl from over the wicket he should give him that kind of wicket. if bowler is hit for sixes he is resposible for it and may be lose match (in last may be he lose his place in team ).then no one will ask captain why u telled him to do so. Every one has its own resposibilties so they should perform there .

  • BellCurve on May 31, 2010, 7:41 GMT

    Benn has my sympathy. Gale looks like a nice guy, but he certainly is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Imagine a charismatic dimwit like that comes to you as a bowler and instruct you to change from over to round the wicket? It's outrageous! Any self-respecting individual would respond like Benn responded. The whole notion of "captaincy" is old fashioned. It dates back to the bad old days of Gentlemen and Players. It is out of place in the modern/professional era. It is time to move on.

  • bommber on May 31, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    it is good to see acaptain taking control of his team and showing someone it is a team game .hooray for gayle

  • boris6491 on May 31, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    I certainly cannot remember an instance of a captain sending one of his own players off, particularly a bowler who has done well. I didn't watch the game but Benn must have really pulled the wrong strings to be ordered off the field like that. Only reflects on the player and it is as embarrassing as disciplinary issues can get. The altercation with Haddin and Johnson, although both were guilty of violating the spirit of the game, was indeed perpetrated and carried on by Sulieman Benn. In any case, SA should have won this game comfortably although WI had a real chance thanks to Bravo's heroics. Hopefully they will only improve and can ensure that they aren't clean swept at home.

  • mojojesus on May 31, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    aussies doesnt have the face to comment on this issue.. they are no saints ... and in that haddin- johnson-benn incident, clearly the aussies should have been given the punishment of their lives... its like pot calling the kettle black...

  • on May 31, 2010, 6:10 GMT

    Can a captain actually allowed to send a bowler or a fielder off the field if he is not obliging to his commands?

  • Aussie-07 on May 31, 2010, 4:50 GMT

    Such negative attiude is always clear by Benn. It was clear as the ligh of day during the last week friday match while batting. West Indies was in a servival situatution needing to score four(4) runs an over to win with one (1) wicket in hand. Randim was at the criss and also Benn was facing a new over, having a wild sling he missed. He was then quickly spoken to by his parter, we no concern he attempted the same shot and missed again. Once more Randim spoke to him probaly telling him to take it easy, but to no aval he played a third (3) consecative wild shot; at this point his parter only shoke his head. Finally with no concern to the team or the situation, Benn played his last wild shot and got out. This is more than stupidity it's a matter of his dirty attitude. The cricket disciplinary board must see the difeerence between lake of performance and players bad behaviors to the game.

  • Vivek.Bhandari on May 31, 2010, 4:38 GMT

    WI are finding newer ways to get into a bigger, deeper hole...I really hope that the gud ol' times of 70s and 80s can be recovered...:-/

  • Rahul_78 on May 31, 2010, 4:31 GMT

    Just 1 word, pathetic. And one would think these bunch have been selected to represent their country to win matches. Also shocking was darren sammys fielding in 2 balls in ravi rampauls over. It was not even funny where he managed to concede 7 runs in 2 balls purely on his fielding efforts. The players lack of application is not only limited to WI. We have seen it from india and pak players also. Not to stir up a blame game but it just looks eminenet that the apportunity and money T20 is generating and it is not only restricted to IPL but in other tournaments also in various other countries leading to players not respecting their countrys representation in internationals.

  • ruester on May 31, 2010, 4:16 GMT

    I ordered a player off the field when I was captaining, for deliberately not fielding a ball. Good for gayle, if the player does not want to play for his team then he can just go and never play again.

  • on May 31, 2010, 3:54 GMT

    clearly, the correct word used by Gayle over n over again.that is "Inconsistent" and lack of intensity. I am a huge fan of West Indian cricket (not a lot nowadays but i prefer when they were so ominous), but they do not perform as a unit most f their games resulting loosing a lot f matches.It s so sad! Hope before the 2011 world cup, they can get their act together ..

  • emmwill on May 31, 2010, 3:37 GMT

    Benn needs to take an attitude check! That Bajan should probably never play for West Indies again, unless he improves significantly re: his approach and response to instructions. Why would he not listen to his captain? What was going through his head? This youngster needs help. By the way, is it OK for the captain to send off a player who is actually in the 11?

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  • emmwill on May 31, 2010, 3:37 GMT

    Benn needs to take an attitude check! That Bajan should probably never play for West Indies again, unless he improves significantly re: his approach and response to instructions. Why would he not listen to his captain? What was going through his head? This youngster needs help. By the way, is it OK for the captain to send off a player who is actually in the 11?

  • on May 31, 2010, 3:54 GMT

    clearly, the correct word used by Gayle over n over again.that is "Inconsistent" and lack of intensity. I am a huge fan of West Indian cricket (not a lot nowadays but i prefer when they were so ominous), but they do not perform as a unit most f their games resulting loosing a lot f matches.It s so sad! Hope before the 2011 world cup, they can get their act together ..

  • ruester on May 31, 2010, 4:16 GMT

    I ordered a player off the field when I was captaining, for deliberately not fielding a ball. Good for gayle, if the player does not want to play for his team then he can just go and never play again.

  • Rahul_78 on May 31, 2010, 4:31 GMT

    Just 1 word, pathetic. And one would think these bunch have been selected to represent their country to win matches. Also shocking was darren sammys fielding in 2 balls in ravi rampauls over. It was not even funny where he managed to concede 7 runs in 2 balls purely on his fielding efforts. The players lack of application is not only limited to WI. We have seen it from india and pak players also. Not to stir up a blame game but it just looks eminenet that the apportunity and money T20 is generating and it is not only restricted to IPL but in other tournaments also in various other countries leading to players not respecting their countrys representation in internationals.

  • Vivek.Bhandari on May 31, 2010, 4:38 GMT

    WI are finding newer ways to get into a bigger, deeper hole...I really hope that the gud ol' times of 70s and 80s can be recovered...:-/

  • Aussie-07 on May 31, 2010, 4:50 GMT

    Such negative attiude is always clear by Benn. It was clear as the ligh of day during the last week friday match while batting. West Indies was in a servival situatution needing to score four(4) runs an over to win with one (1) wicket in hand. Randim was at the criss and also Benn was facing a new over, having a wild sling he missed. He was then quickly spoken to by his parter, we no concern he attempted the same shot and missed again. Once more Randim spoke to him probaly telling him to take it easy, but to no aval he played a third (3) consecative wild shot; at this point his parter only shoke his head. Finally with no concern to the team or the situation, Benn played his last wild shot and got out. This is more than stupidity it's a matter of his dirty attitude. The cricket disciplinary board must see the difeerence between lake of performance and players bad behaviors to the game.

  • on May 31, 2010, 6:10 GMT

    Can a captain actually allowed to send a bowler or a fielder off the field if he is not obliging to his commands?

  • mojojesus on May 31, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    aussies doesnt have the face to comment on this issue.. they are no saints ... and in that haddin- johnson-benn incident, clearly the aussies should have been given the punishment of their lives... its like pot calling the kettle black...

  • boris6491 on May 31, 2010, 7:16 GMT

    I certainly cannot remember an instance of a captain sending one of his own players off, particularly a bowler who has done well. I didn't watch the game but Benn must have really pulled the wrong strings to be ordered off the field like that. Only reflects on the player and it is as embarrassing as disciplinary issues can get. The altercation with Haddin and Johnson, although both were guilty of violating the spirit of the game, was indeed perpetrated and carried on by Sulieman Benn. In any case, SA should have won this game comfortably although WI had a real chance thanks to Bravo's heroics. Hopefully they will only improve and can ensure that they aren't clean swept at home.

  • bommber on May 31, 2010, 7:40 GMT

    it is good to see acaptain taking control of his team and showing someone it is a team game .hooray for gayle