India news January 8, 2014

Gavaskar says Yuvraj and Sehwag down but not out

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Virender Sehwag and Yuvraj Singh have had difficult domestic seasons after being sidelined from the national team, and with the flourishing of a younger bunch of batsmen, their international future looks shaky. Sunil Gavaskar, though, has said both can still force their way back into the Indian team.

In his bid to return, Sehwag has shifted down to the middle order - where he began his career - after a profitable decade as opener. The results, though, have been poor: his fast-bowling team-mate Ashish Nehra has similar batting statistics over the Ranji season.

Yuvraj has been through similarly wretched form, troubled by the pace of Mitchell Johnson during the home ODI series against Australia last year, before extending his lean run in the matches against West Indies and South Africa. The runs haven't returned in three Ranji matches since either.

"(In) Cricket, nothing is impossible," Gavaskar said during the Ranji quarterfinal in Mumbai. "You have one good season, one outstanding season, you can come back. It is up to Yuvraj to show that he has got the burning desire for it. I think he has. And he has just had a bad season. Hopefully he could come back because he adds so much to the Indian team because he is still a top fielder and his spinners does help pick wickets.

"Sehwag also, nothing is impossible in cricket. It is up to these guys to come back with not just hundreds but double hundreds and stuff like that."

Gavaskar, India's greatest Test opener, suggested Sehwag, India's best Test opener after him, could try rediscovering his touch by moving back to the top of the order. "I think he is more happy with the ball coming on to the bat. If you have opened the batting for such a long time, it is a little bit difficult waiting in the dressing room, waiting for your turn to go to bat. The best move for him would be to go back to opening. The new ball will come on to the bat, he can try and score off it. The other thing is that clever captains will confront him with spin straightaway."

One of the seniors who has made a comeback after a year out of the Indian team is Zaheer Khan. The national selection chief, Sandeep Patil, was watching the Ranji quarterfinals in Mumbai, possibly to track Zaheer's progress. None of the members of the Indian squad whose teams are in the quarterfinals is playing: Rohit Sharma, Ajinkya Rahane, Suresh Raina, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Stuart Binny and Mohammed Shami are set to leave for New Zealand on the final day of the match. Gavaskar echoed Rahul Dravid's views that the six players could have played the Ranji knockout match.

"It would have been fantastic to have the guys play in the quarter-finals," Gavaskar said. "If they could have played and left the day the quarter-final finishes, for example the team is leaving on 11th night/12th morning the three-four players could have left on 12th night/13th morning because the first match is on the 19th. I know you lose a day going into New Zealand but it would have still given them enough time.

"This is India's No. 1 tournament. The more competitive it is, the higher the standard and the better the feedback for the selection committee to be able to see when the teams are playing the best and against the best, it is always a good indication for the selectors."

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  • YAYAVAR on January 13, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    I agree with Gavaskar. Sehwag should open the innings. He is the best opener India had after Gavaskar. I still think if Sehwag does well in opening the innings, he can change the course of any match. He is an attacking batsman and he should be allowed to play his natural game. I sincerely hope Sehwag would find a place in the national team and will bring laurels to the country. There is still much cricket left in Sehwag and he should prove it to the country. Only he can do it.

  • Temuzin on January 9, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Gavaskar was trying to give some hope to Viru and Yuvi. But its up to these two players to correct their weaknesses and bounce back. I am a Yuvraj fan but the way he was facing Johnson on the pitches in India doesn't bode well for him. He will have to really play hard to get in the team. Youngsters have almost cemented their place in the team. And they are good too. They did good job in SA against Steyn and Co.

  • akshay_heble on January 9, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    I feel virender sehwag and Yuvraj Singh should focus on test cricket and One day cricket respectively because both have excelled in their respective formats.. I feel virender sehwag should concentrate being an opener even as far as domestic cricket is concerned. Because our opening combo is still not that solid But for sehwag to excel I feel he should be more responsible in his temperament and not play every ball for a six. He should moderate it a bit and play more responsibly. For Yuvraj it astonishes me that how such a great talent has never been able to excel in tests. But never the less I think he has a lot to offer in limited overs cricket because after all his performance helped us to win the T20 and ODI world cup. So I feel he should try to pave his way in the T20 and ODI side and also enhance his bowling to strengthen his chances

  • Naresh28 on January 9, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Batting TALENT in India is plentyful. I think our batsman are nurtured on easy wickets and that is good. What is lacking in team India is a good bowling attack. Right now they are slow, cannot plan dismissals, not capable of taking 20 wkts, etc. If one was to analyse high scores scored against teams - it would show India's bowling is off the mark. BCCI needs to have special grassy pitches which aid pace, encourages pace bowling and used to gauge which bowlers are which. The emphasis should shift to bowling!!!

  • on January 9, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    This topic itself is very unnecessary, Everyone one knows the capability of viru and yuvi and their era is almost done due to newcomers performing unbelievable. If we have to keeping goals in mind that's next world cup imagine sehwag decides to quit and retire after average performances just before world cup??? Anything can happen but we really need to look after young talents ahead of hoping senior players to perform

  • CurrentPresident on January 9, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    By saying this, Mr. Gavaskar has accepted that he does not have any say in BCCI matters (and he will never be in the selection committee) :-)

    To all the people saying "Move Forward" - you cannot move forward with all 11 players being in-experienced. There needs to be some staggering so that the new players can be groomed by the seniors. Dhoni is the only senior and he is so busy. And he cannot guide people in either batting or bowling.

    Fortunately, with Pujara and Kohli, the batting department is coping well. Still, people like Vijay and Rahane could use some guidance and so would Jadeja the batsman (he can be much better than his scores in test cricket).

    It's the bowling that is leaderless and has no experienced senior. Zaheer could have been that person, but he is a fast bowler and in his current state, cannot bowl for 5 days. So we need someone like Harbhajan, who is senior enough, yet he can be selected on merit and can last a test.

  • Iceman29 on January 9, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    We have some new promising talents like Pujara and Rahane...I dont think Dhawan is a test material or for that matter i think he is another flat track bully like Raina and Rohit Sharma...We should find a solid Opening batsmen in test matches and bowlers who can bowl consistently above 140 and can swing both ways...and its time we look beyond Ashwin who is a passenger in this team when we play abroad....Ojha and Mishra should be given more chances...Y dont anybody speak abt our bowlers its always about batsmen...

  • Ravi1438 on January 9, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    people will say young side i agree that present team is good to play in only indian batting pitches.. they showned in SA tour..atleast for test matches they should give a opportunities to viru..gambir..zak..harbhajan..some seniority is needed in overseas always young stars can't handle the pressure..selectors should keep this in mind..

  • Iceman29 on January 9, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    Is this guy Insane?? Because of guys like him the youngsters with real talents are not able to make it to the Indian team and Ind still not able to build a quality team which can win in abroad...If these guys were in the playing 11 in SA..Ind would not have reached 150...We respect these players but we also have to accept that they are past their expiry date.. and its time to build a team for the future...what we need right now is a pool of good seam and spin bowlers who are capable of taking 20 wickets anywhere...

  • ProdigyA on January 9, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    Yuvi and Viru have been great, both match winners who could singlehandedly win matches and contributed immensely to Indian cricket in their own right, and deserve a lot of respect. But it's time to move forward.

    Batting is not at all India's problem. There is enough talent in batting and even the bench is strong enough to challenge any intl side. The issue is with fast bowling. Mr. Gavaskar, pls tell us if Srinath, Kapil etc can make a comeback.

  • YAYAVAR on January 13, 2014, 0:30 GMT

    I agree with Gavaskar. Sehwag should open the innings. He is the best opener India had after Gavaskar. I still think if Sehwag does well in opening the innings, he can change the course of any match. He is an attacking batsman and he should be allowed to play his natural game. I sincerely hope Sehwag would find a place in the national team and will bring laurels to the country. There is still much cricket left in Sehwag and he should prove it to the country. Only he can do it.

  • Temuzin on January 9, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Gavaskar was trying to give some hope to Viru and Yuvi. But its up to these two players to correct their weaknesses and bounce back. I am a Yuvraj fan but the way he was facing Johnson on the pitches in India doesn't bode well for him. He will have to really play hard to get in the team. Youngsters have almost cemented their place in the team. And they are good too. They did good job in SA against Steyn and Co.

  • akshay_heble on January 9, 2014, 14:45 GMT

    I feel virender sehwag and Yuvraj Singh should focus on test cricket and One day cricket respectively because both have excelled in their respective formats.. I feel virender sehwag should concentrate being an opener even as far as domestic cricket is concerned. Because our opening combo is still not that solid But for sehwag to excel I feel he should be more responsible in his temperament and not play every ball for a six. He should moderate it a bit and play more responsibly. For Yuvraj it astonishes me that how such a great talent has never been able to excel in tests. But never the less I think he has a lot to offer in limited overs cricket because after all his performance helped us to win the T20 and ODI world cup. So I feel he should try to pave his way in the T20 and ODI side and also enhance his bowling to strengthen his chances

  • Naresh28 on January 9, 2014, 13:34 GMT

    Batting TALENT in India is plentyful. I think our batsman are nurtured on easy wickets and that is good. What is lacking in team India is a good bowling attack. Right now they are slow, cannot plan dismissals, not capable of taking 20 wkts, etc. If one was to analyse high scores scored against teams - it would show India's bowling is off the mark. BCCI needs to have special grassy pitches which aid pace, encourages pace bowling and used to gauge which bowlers are which. The emphasis should shift to bowling!!!

  • on January 9, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    This topic itself is very unnecessary, Everyone one knows the capability of viru and yuvi and their era is almost done due to newcomers performing unbelievable. If we have to keeping goals in mind that's next world cup imagine sehwag decides to quit and retire after average performances just before world cup??? Anything can happen but we really need to look after young talents ahead of hoping senior players to perform

  • CurrentPresident on January 9, 2014, 7:01 GMT

    By saying this, Mr. Gavaskar has accepted that he does not have any say in BCCI matters (and he will never be in the selection committee) :-)

    To all the people saying "Move Forward" - you cannot move forward with all 11 players being in-experienced. There needs to be some staggering so that the new players can be groomed by the seniors. Dhoni is the only senior and he is so busy. And he cannot guide people in either batting or bowling.

    Fortunately, with Pujara and Kohli, the batting department is coping well. Still, people like Vijay and Rahane could use some guidance and so would Jadeja the batsman (he can be much better than his scores in test cricket).

    It's the bowling that is leaderless and has no experienced senior. Zaheer could have been that person, but he is a fast bowler and in his current state, cannot bowl for 5 days. So we need someone like Harbhajan, who is senior enough, yet he can be selected on merit and can last a test.

  • Iceman29 on January 9, 2014, 6:58 GMT

    We have some new promising talents like Pujara and Rahane...I dont think Dhawan is a test material or for that matter i think he is another flat track bully like Raina and Rohit Sharma...We should find a solid Opening batsmen in test matches and bowlers who can bowl consistently above 140 and can swing both ways...and its time we look beyond Ashwin who is a passenger in this team when we play abroad....Ojha and Mishra should be given more chances...Y dont anybody speak abt our bowlers its always about batsmen...

  • Ravi1438 on January 9, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    people will say young side i agree that present team is good to play in only indian batting pitches.. they showned in SA tour..atleast for test matches they should give a opportunities to viru..gambir..zak..harbhajan..some seniority is needed in overseas always young stars can't handle the pressure..selectors should keep this in mind..

  • Iceman29 on January 9, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    Is this guy Insane?? Because of guys like him the youngsters with real talents are not able to make it to the Indian team and Ind still not able to build a quality team which can win in abroad...If these guys were in the playing 11 in SA..Ind would not have reached 150...We respect these players but we also have to accept that they are past their expiry date.. and its time to build a team for the future...what we need right now is a pool of good seam and spin bowlers who are capable of taking 20 wickets anywhere...

  • ProdigyA on January 9, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    Yuvi and Viru have been great, both match winners who could singlehandedly win matches and contributed immensely to Indian cricket in their own right, and deserve a lot of respect. But it's time to move forward.

    Batting is not at all India's problem. There is enough talent in batting and even the bench is strong enough to challenge any intl side. The issue is with fast bowling. Mr. Gavaskar, pls tell us if Srinath, Kapil etc can make a comeback.

  • RMCroos on January 9, 2014, 5:56 GMT

    Shewag / Yuvraj No doubt fantastic cricketers ...shewag mostly out not because of his poor performace ...MSD not like him in the side..what i suggest to selectors just take them inside the squad not to play both in once since poor form just try one by one in that way they can feel why i am sitting here i shoud out and play the anger will make them bat well during selected match...these two players can change the match in anytime such a powerfull players...

  • on January 9, 2014, 5:49 GMT

    Gavaskar and his usual non sense ! Sehwag s definitely done for sure ! Yuvi may come back, but looks a long way ! The first and foremost thing for a sportsman is fitness ! Indians become fat as it goes by. Not concerning them at all ! Sehwag, yuvi, zaheer all put on weight and was not able to play well !

  • on January 9, 2014, 4:53 GMT

    As a pure bowler Harbhajan was not worse than Ashwin outside of India. To me it seems Ashwin's role outside of India will be limited. Perhaps he can play #6 as batsman since there is no guarantee Rohit Sharma will succeed consistently :-) Going forward, Jadeja will be the preferred spinner outside of India.

  • couchpundit on January 9, 2014, 4:26 GMT

    @ Selfishkar - come to think of it....sounds like Rohit sharma in recent times...say what 6 years of chances in ODI and the guy finds form in flatest of wickets?

  • on January 9, 2014, 4:26 GMT

    Gauravm5 pls tell me about ashwin.is he doing more good job than bhajji.if he is in team dhoni hand on his head and Raina too.

  • on January 9, 2014, 3:59 GMT

    It is better these 2 retire to life of Grahastya and give opportunities to younger players even at the dometic level.

  • Johnny_129 on January 9, 2014, 2:25 GMT

    Yuvraj was the top performer of the WC success and good luck to him. However, looking forward there does not seem to be a spot for him in the ODI side with many talented youngsters who are also mobile in the field. Kohli and Raina can fill the void left by Yuvraj or least they have done so already. As for Sehwag, I believe his best days have passed - Sehwag was a great batsman but he was more of an 'eye player' as opposed to solid technique. With such players, they tend to be devastating (like Viv) when on song but struggle more when they age. A Sehwag was never going to match a Dravid as far as longevity is concerned but when on song...man, was he a damn side more exciting to watch. None of this crap about solid technique etc - just plain old smashing and scoring. He used to intimate opposition bowlers like no other. Give me a Viv, Sehwag or Gilchrist over Dravid or Kallis (as far a batting only is concerned) any day - all great players though.

  • on January 9, 2014, 1:39 GMT

    After all these years Juvraj going to learn play fast bowlers? You must be joking. There are very good new boys like Samson and Jol waiting at the door. It would be quite unfair not to give them a chance. Had Samson been from Mumbai or Madras , he would have been selected long ago.

  • sammysam on January 9, 2014, 1:36 GMT

    Your kidding me.. right Gavaskar? Move forward not backwards.

  • outforhatrick on January 9, 2014, 1:27 GMT

    india should look beyond yuvraj, sehwag. etc.. for defending next worldcup in AUS/NZ.. India should have a plan for Test Series win in SA and AUS.. its really ridiculous that we have not won a series in either of those countries and do not look like doing it in near future.. the performance in SA recently should be a reality check that india is still far from those targets. satisfactions for beating srilanka or pakistan in a ODI, IPL wins are per-occupying from the fact that we have never progressed as test nation. High time otherwise all true test cricket fans including Mr. Gavaskar will see a mediocre test team from india

  • on January 8, 2014, 23:36 GMT

    Mr. Gavaskar, know that life goes forward not backwards. India is doing good with the young players. Sehwag and Yuvraj both are down and out. They did well for India in their time and now must give way to young blood. Of all the people, you should know that cricket need good reflexes, a sound mind and and a great body. These qualities are not there with Sehwag and Yuvraj, period. They were both given the opportunity to come back, but, the above qualities were not there. Yuvraj especially was bowled many times for playing back too late for Johnson. I dont think Yuvraj wants to come back.

  • neerajacc on January 8, 2014, 23:28 GMT

    Common guys both these guys are proven players and people who are saying that Yuvi cannot play fast please check his stats, even in the first 20/20 game against Aus he single handily won the match for India . Every single player goes with the bad patch and selectors should show confidence in them. I am not saying with the current form they should be in the team but we should not pass negative comment about them. Just with one bad series we are talking negative about them. Even if you see the current indian Team except Cheteswar Pujara and Virat Kohli who is performing better. I would definitely love to see all 3 players Sehvag,Yuvi and Gambhir back in the team.

  • Sultan2007 on January 8, 2014, 22:08 GMT

    Viru is an intersting gy. My recollection is that the last time he made a successfuly return to the National side it was not on the back of huge runs in the domestic season. HE was brought in as a game changer and boy, did he change games! He is a big match player motivated by the occasion. The question is....are his reflexes and eye sight keeping pace with his heart?

  • CurrentPresident on January 8, 2014, 21:55 GMT

    I think there is room in the test team for one or two seniors.

    Sehwag is a confidence player and unless he is happy and confident, he will not succeed. I would also keep Harbhajan in the mix for the test team, simply because I don't see any other penetrative off spinner.

    But let's be real, until Dhoni is calling the shots, Sehwag (he wanted to be the captain) can not come back, neither can Harbhajan (his sponsors sued Dhoni's sponsors).

    Yuvraj may still be able to make a comeback for the world cup, but right now Dhoni thinks Raina is the man in that role.

    I would not consider any erstwhile seniors for either ODI or 20-20.

  • SanjivAwesome on January 8, 2014, 21:14 GMT

    I normally trust Gavaskar's pronouncements. They are based on soundly thought out logic rather than emotion as we tend to do in India. However, after these comments from him I am afraid even his faculities are now starting to strain with the burden of time. Will he know when to quit?

  • on January 8, 2014, 20:49 GMT

    I want to see Yuvi, Viru, Gauti, Bhajji & Zaheer in 2015 WC

  • gauravm5 on January 8, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    sehwag is a gone case, although he has desire to play for India but he want to be there directly without trying to get in form by scoring runs in domestic matches. He is not even interested in playing ranji matches. HE is very jealous of the fame & name Dhoni has earned over the last 6 years. Same is the case with Bhajji. On the other hand, players like Gamhir, Zaheer & Yuvi look very keen on working hard & performing well to get back into international arena. They are desperate to do anything to don Indian jersey again and win matches for India.

  • TRAM on January 8, 2014, 19:50 GMT

    If Gavaskar says this personally to Yuvraj and Sehwag then it is called encouragement. But if he says it public then it is called "influencing". They were dropped for correct reasons by the selectors. The struggles these 2 batsmen had and exposed off their weaknesses are world known now. As Gavaskar says, clever captains will confront them straightaway. Unless they prove that 1. they have overcome their technical weaknesses (and that is not by scoring a 50+ in a flat track. It should come in real bowler friendly track). 2. they are fit for good fielding, they should not be selected. Country first.

  • bonobo on January 8, 2014, 19:43 GMT

    Sehwag has been one of the greatest openers in the game. So given there is probably a middle order spot up for grabs (Sharmas), if he shows his reactions are still in tact and his eyesight is still up to scratch...then I think all of cricket would love to see him back even if it's just for 12-18 months. Yuvraj on the other hand, is talented player, but tested consistently over a numbers of years, with various opportunities, has proved just not to have the game for a consistent test cricketer. Even if he finds some form at domestic level, I don't see how it could be taken as a sign his game has changed to any other season he has scored runs at Ranji level and justify displacing a younger batsman

  • Selfishkar on January 8, 2014, 19:25 GMT

    Yuvraj is a proven failure in tests who could not cement his place after a decade of opportunities.

  • InsideHedge on January 8, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    I'd love for Gavaskar to be right on both counts but I think it's a bridge too far for Sehwag whose serious decline began immediately after the World Cup. He showed up on the 2011 England tour unfit and bagged a king pair on his return at Edgbaston. The fantastic ODI double ton against WI notwithstanding, Viru's been a long time retired.

    Nothing that happens moving forward can change the past. The man has brought unadulterated joy to not only Indian fans, but anyone who enjoys fearless, dynamic batting from a bygone age.

  • nainil0683 on January 8, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    Gavaskar got it bang on. Both of them are top caliber players and are danger to other teams. Having their names in the line up causes opposite teams to sweat. I second Gavaskar's thought that Sehwag should open again. By doing that, he can run his normal business by punishing any balls in his zone (which is slightly outside off) which he will find plenty in the opening overs. That should give him quick runs to begin with and then as usual, he can build on that. I just hate people when they forget and bad-mouth these players (in their trying times) who once were their heroes. Give them chances, build your hopes on them and they will come back big time. As it's said, good players cannot be kept away for a long time. Check out comebacks for Dravid, Ganguly and Yuvraj himself last year. In my view Yuvraj needs to work on facing raw pace from bowling machines and slowly build innings to gain back his confidence. All the best both of you. The Indian team is waiting for you for the World Cup.

  • AltafPatel on January 8, 2014, 16:56 GMT

    India should have included Sehwag in NZ ODI series. He had excellent form in last 2 NZ tours. WC 2015 is co-hosted by NZ considering which it's best time to have Sehwag refresh with bat on this soil regardless his poor form in domestic cricket on spinner friendly pitch.

  • on January 8, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    viru n yuvi the true legand of indian cricket.

  • CricketMaan on January 8, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    Viru, however good he was and is, the greatest challenge is for him to make a comeback only based on his credentials in the past. With India playing a plethora of overseas tests and given his record overseas in the recent past, it does not augur very well. It might be easier said than done and his current mindset and form suggests its all over. Dhoni and Duncan are keen to move on. Bhajji, Gauti and Viru are not on their list although cannot rule out the first 2 until they call it a day. Yuvi, howmuch ever hard he tries still is lacking top fitness. He is not the same after 2 or 3 ODIs and looks tired. He still is a superb ODI and T20 player but unless he shows match fitness beyond 2 games its always touch and go.

  • on January 8, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    Im sure Sunny was being sarcastic regarding Sehwag

  • armchairjohnny on January 8, 2014, 15:35 GMT

    @viru-319-219 If you wish for Indian cricket to remain in the dark ages, then by all means, persist with the status quo. Veeru had his moments and played some spectacular innings no doubt, but mostly in conditions that favored batsmen. SRT, Dravid and Laxman on the other hand, all played several innings of substance against high quality bowling in bowler-friendly conditions.

    I've no doubt India will be able to produce naturally gifted batsmen. But no cricketer is born with temperament, professionalism and a good attitude. The game today demands versatility, a good work ethic and high level of fitness, motivation and professionalism -- something the senior players no longer have.

    You ask me to qualify what I mean by 'solid compact technique'? Watch any innings of substance by SRT, Dravid or VVS Laxman overseas against Eng, Aus or SAF when other batsmen have failed and you will find your answer there. Dravids performances on the infamous 4-0 failure in England is a textbook example.

  • henchart on January 8, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Indians go more by sentiments than cold logic.With the exception of Gavaskar most of the past greats including the recent one have timed their retirement poorly.Kapil and Sachin were guilty of dragging it and Dravid ,Laxman too did not go on a high note.What awaits Sehwag and Yuvraj? Time rather their performances would tell.

  • parvinder7 on January 8, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    i agree with what some of my brothers have said. What good is domestic when we see them in international they are headless chickens. Our bowling is not a problem but it is now a massive concern. Has lillee a bowling academy in india. Shut it down, you have produced a bunch of amateurs. I would be shamed to hear my name in india. I would grab the best of indias bowlers coming up, train them, nuture them and make them learn the art of bowling home and abroad. A small bowling centre for our indians can produce better results than wot we have at the moment. Why is our bowlers so hopeless. God has given u a talent use it. Money is the root to all evil. Were doomed. Dark times ahead.

  • viru-319-219 on January 8, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    @armchairjohnny says " There will be many flashy batsmen like Veeru and Yuvi", Do you know anything about cricket mate? Every team dreamt of having Viru in their line up until his slump of form and Yuvi he won the world cup for India. If we get many flashy players like them how many world cups have we won and how many of those "FLASHY" players scored 2 triple hundreds and most number of double hundreds for INDIA? Viru is termed as 'ONCE IN A CENTURY' player and Yuvi was the backbone of Indian middle order, It's fine if you call them old,lazy and what ever it might be but please don't take away what they did for Indian cricket. Not just INDIA but world cricket will never find another SEHWAG again after he retires. And @ armchairjohnny What in your opinion is a solid, compact technique? For me INDIAN tracks are absolutely fine and all batsmen in INDIA have a solid compact technique as they can play turning ball from day 1 of a match and they can score even when the ball is turning square

  • zzby on January 8, 2014, 14:52 GMT

    Indian experience players would be far better then youngsters in long run , if you doubt this, look at the performence of bucky the Rogers.

  • armchairjohnny on January 8, 2014, 14:21 GMT

    Sehwag and Yuvraj? Please, as brilliant a batsman Gavaskar was, I wish he would stay out of these important matters concerning the future of Indian cricket. India urgently needs to prioritize the future over the past. The BCCI needs to break the bank and use all its might to create a fast-bowling culture within Indian domestic cricket. Unless we have some green pitches and encourage youngsters to bowl fast from an early age, we will never have another Srinath or Kapil ever again.

    In the batting department, there is a lot of potential with players like Chand, Zol, Samson, etc, but I fear they will turn into flat track bullies unless they are exposed to foreign conditions early on in their careers. There will be many flashy batsmen like Veeru and Yuvi. But we need young batsmen with solid, compact techniques.

    Indian batsmen should be encouraged to play domestic cricket overseas to build sold techniques. SRT and Dravid both benefited from this early on in their careers.

  • shammini on January 8, 2014, 14:16 GMT

    Honestly don't think we should be going backwards instead of progressing. We are building a new team and should try to get as many new faces as possible to stabilize. Bringing an oldie, no matter what they accomplished in their younger years, is always going to be a step backwards and there will be a shift again when they are ready to retire. Can understand the sentiments of Gavaskar and co, but no, we don't really want oldies, no matter what they do in domestic circuits. Just look at what Yuvaraj and Zaheer did when such an opportunity was provided to them last year. Clearly time to think past them.

  • CricketChat on January 8, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    Hope Ind selectors won't turn back to old stars, poor on fitness, attitude and on progressively declining form just based on a couple good knocks. These two, along with few others contemplating comebacks, must show sustained high performances for a number of matches before they can be considered. The younger replacements are just about finding their feet in the international arena and the last thing you want is to kill their careers by dropping them now.

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  • CricketChat on January 8, 2014, 13:58 GMT

    Hope Ind selectors won't turn back to old stars, poor on fitness, attitude and on progressively declining form just based on a couple good knocks. These two, along with few others contemplating comebacks, must show sustained high performances for a number of matches before they can be considered. The younger replacements are just about finding their feet in the international arena and the last thing you want is to kill their careers by dropping them now.

  • shammini on January 8, 2014, 14:16 GMT

    Honestly don't think we should be going backwards instead of progressing. We are building a new team and should try to get as many new faces as possible to stabilize. Bringing an oldie, no matter what they accomplished in their younger years, is always going to be a step backwards and there will be a shift again when they are ready to retire. Can understand the sentiments of Gavaskar and co, but no, we don't really want oldies, no matter what they do in domestic circuits. Just look at what Yuvaraj and Zaheer did when such an opportunity was provided to them last year. Clearly time to think past them.

  • armchairjohnny on January 8, 2014, 14:21 GMT

    Sehwag and Yuvraj? Please, as brilliant a batsman Gavaskar was, I wish he would stay out of these important matters concerning the future of Indian cricket. India urgently needs to prioritize the future over the past. The BCCI needs to break the bank and use all its might to create a fast-bowling culture within Indian domestic cricket. Unless we have some green pitches and encourage youngsters to bowl fast from an early age, we will never have another Srinath or Kapil ever again.

    In the batting department, there is a lot of potential with players like Chand, Zol, Samson, etc, but I fear they will turn into flat track bullies unless they are exposed to foreign conditions early on in their careers. There will be many flashy batsmen like Veeru and Yuvi. But we need young batsmen with solid, compact techniques.

    Indian batsmen should be encouraged to play domestic cricket overseas to build sold techniques. SRT and Dravid both benefited from this early on in their careers.

  • zzby on January 8, 2014, 14:52 GMT

    Indian experience players would be far better then youngsters in long run , if you doubt this, look at the performence of bucky the Rogers.

  • viru-319-219 on January 8, 2014, 15:07 GMT

    @armchairjohnny says " There will be many flashy batsmen like Veeru and Yuvi", Do you know anything about cricket mate? Every team dreamt of having Viru in their line up until his slump of form and Yuvi he won the world cup for India. If we get many flashy players like them how many world cups have we won and how many of those "FLASHY" players scored 2 triple hundreds and most number of double hundreds for INDIA? Viru is termed as 'ONCE IN A CENTURY' player and Yuvi was the backbone of Indian middle order, It's fine if you call them old,lazy and what ever it might be but please don't take away what they did for Indian cricket. Not just INDIA but world cricket will never find another SEHWAG again after he retires. And @ armchairjohnny What in your opinion is a solid, compact technique? For me INDIAN tracks are absolutely fine and all batsmen in INDIA have a solid compact technique as they can play turning ball from day 1 of a match and they can score even when the ball is turning square

  • parvinder7 on January 8, 2014, 15:09 GMT

    i agree with what some of my brothers have said. What good is domestic when we see them in international they are headless chickens. Our bowling is not a problem but it is now a massive concern. Has lillee a bowling academy in india. Shut it down, you have produced a bunch of amateurs. I would be shamed to hear my name in india. I would grab the best of indias bowlers coming up, train them, nuture them and make them learn the art of bowling home and abroad. A small bowling centre for our indians can produce better results than wot we have at the moment. Why is our bowlers so hopeless. God has given u a talent use it. Money is the root to all evil. Were doomed. Dark times ahead.

  • henchart on January 8, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    Indians go more by sentiments than cold logic.With the exception of Gavaskar most of the past greats including the recent one have timed their retirement poorly.Kapil and Sachin were guilty of dragging it and Dravid ,Laxman too did not go on a high note.What awaits Sehwag and Yuvraj? Time rather their performances would tell.

  • armchairjohnny on January 8, 2014, 15:35 GMT

    @viru-319-219 If you wish for Indian cricket to remain in the dark ages, then by all means, persist with the status quo. Veeru had his moments and played some spectacular innings no doubt, but mostly in conditions that favored batsmen. SRT, Dravid and Laxman on the other hand, all played several innings of substance against high quality bowling in bowler-friendly conditions.

    I've no doubt India will be able to produce naturally gifted batsmen. But no cricketer is born with temperament, professionalism and a good attitude. The game today demands versatility, a good work ethic and high level of fitness, motivation and professionalism -- something the senior players no longer have.

    You ask me to qualify what I mean by 'solid compact technique'? Watch any innings of substance by SRT, Dravid or VVS Laxman overseas against Eng, Aus or SAF when other batsmen have failed and you will find your answer there. Dravids performances on the infamous 4-0 failure in England is a textbook example.

  • on January 8, 2014, 15:46 GMT

    Im sure Sunny was being sarcastic regarding Sehwag

  • CricketMaan on January 8, 2014, 15:50 GMT

    Viru, however good he was and is, the greatest challenge is for him to make a comeback only based on his credentials in the past. With India playing a plethora of overseas tests and given his record overseas in the recent past, it does not augur very well. It might be easier said than done and his current mindset and form suggests its all over. Dhoni and Duncan are keen to move on. Bhajji, Gauti and Viru are not on their list although cannot rule out the first 2 until they call it a day. Yuvi, howmuch ever hard he tries still is lacking top fitness. He is not the same after 2 or 3 ODIs and looks tired. He still is a superb ODI and T20 player but unless he shows match fitness beyond 2 games its always touch and go.