USA March 3, 2007

USA suspended again

It comes as no surprise that the USACA were today suspended by the ICC for failing to meet the agreed deadlines
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It comes as no surprise that the USACA were today suspended by the ICC for failing to meet the agreed deadlines. Read the full story, and this comment piece, and leave your comments and thoughts below.

Will Luke is assistant editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Evan Brooks on June 27, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    Being an under 15 and having been born in America with my parents as Americans two, you come disrespect the USACA and the way they structure cricket. Cricket could be striving in America if we did not have stupid people running it. America in all is lazy. There is no doubt about it. Selectors are not quality and executives spend money like democrats. Cricket in America is no good because of the people that run it. One person I have come to respect is Malcolm Nash. He is the main people of USJC and has tried multiple approaches to introducing cricket. But it is not him that that is lazy, it is most American kids. And until the kids are fixed, neither will American cricket be.

  • ram on March 26, 2007, 23:33 GMT

    ICC should take personal intrest in the devlopment of cricket in USA. if the association is weak they should establish cricket academy themselves. USA has lots of cricket playing immigrants and many county's. If ICC can strive to devlop cricket in USA, not only they will teach USA about cricket but also can make lots of money. A minimum of 4 cricket stadiums should be build allover USA and few series should be scheduled there to make americans aware of cricket. they should think about the devlopment of the sport in USA than of rules and blah blah.

  • Sohrab on March 6, 2007, 4:52 GMT

    Cricket is not for USA and will not become a part of the culture for a looooooooooong time. I am very happy at the exclusion of USA from ICC. I am also strictly against teams like Bermuda (45 all out).

  • Farhan Aziz on March 5, 2007, 21:20 GMT

    The USA has a relatively infant cricket structure. The USA is an interesting model since the cricket base comprises of a wide range of expatriate nationalities, which certainly contributes to the lack of synergy. Add to this; the voluntary nature of our administrative setup - you get chaos.

    Chaos will exist with or without Dainty. What the USA needs is for the ICC to set up a professional panel of administrators to run USA cricket. US cricket should channel through this set up. We simply cannot rely on non-professionals to take the US to the next level.

    Come on ICC, show some vision and get us on the map again by holding our hand!

  • Turnaround on March 5, 2007, 18:22 GMT

    I have been playing cricket for more than a decade in the great Southern California. I think this is a great turnaround for cricket in USA. Imagine had the new constitution was adopted, we would have never seen this day and cricket would be driven completely in wrong direction with those crooks, Now is the chance for us, We have some really good administers in USA who can work honestly and have a fair vision for development this great game. Someone please open a blog and give access to identify people who can plan for the next step. Just bitching about whatever happens is I believe not the answer, the answer to this is to start immediately for our ball game all over again. The more we will wait to see what is next it will be too late to even think of developing cricket in USA. So I am saying lets start the march today.

    ICC sure has helped us, now its our job to do the next step by creating a real organization who has true ethics for development

  • M Grady on March 5, 2007, 12:04 GMT

    As usual USA’s narrow minded leadership has failed. I’am an American who has lived in the UK for many years for me this story is nothing new. My son and I love the game and have attempted to deal with USA cricket before, same run around as the young man from AZ. Several years ago my son now 23 attempted to make contact with USA cricket , at the time he was one of the very few if not the only American playing ECB county youth cricket in the country, and one of the youngest players in SR level league cricket. We knew that USA cricket was spending money sending reps to the UK, common sense said if he’s got some talent why not have a look it could only be good for the USA who was talking a lot about getting more exposure , his country board was very supportive even offered to help set up a trail. As it turns out USA cricket wanted nothing to do with a US born cricketer, who was playing in the UK. Since then he has turned his interest to UK youth cricket receiving a degree in Sports Science Coaching from one of the UKs top sports Universities, he is a certified ECB coach, was capt of his University team, and has coached country development teams. In short what a waist USA youth should be benefiting. Cricket is a great game lost on the “it’s all about ME and my friends “ types who are still running USA cricket.

    M.Grady

  • Yousaf, Muhammad on March 4, 2007, 7:10 GMT

    Enough is enough, this current board of directors and executive committee should resign. They should keep themselves away from cricket and let people w/class and dignity runs USA cricket. Folks, current EB members are opening the leagues to get more votes, which is the only services they have done to cricket. They divided cricket’s lovers in two groups to benefit themselves.

    My humble request to all these BODs & EB members to just resign and stay home, there is no more room for them to humiliate USA name in international cricket community.

    I’m worried may be current EB & BODs will start new ICC in their own courtyard (if they can start leagues if they are not happy w/the one they been part for so long). You can expect any thing from this group.

  • raj on March 4, 2007, 4:14 GMT

    What should the US clubs do? Pay our annual dues to USACA or just hold on to the money? Can someone advice?

  • Joshua Abrahim on March 4, 2007, 0:25 GMT

    I think this is a deliberate act by the usaca to sabatage cricket in the usa and make sure it never gets off the ground. Shame on you

  • Peter on March 3, 2007, 23:12 GMT

    I live in USA and I am surprised that no one has noticed this aspect of USA Cricket failure. Baseball Associations in USA are actively obstructing any progress in Cricket in USA. This has been propagated to grass root levels of Baseball population. Whenever we try to convert an unused ground in to playing cricket playing condition, they try to convert it to Soccer or baseball and somehow take it away from Cricket even after following proper procedures. In USA, everything works on lobbying and money. Cricket in USA will never succeed since it will be a threat to other sports.

  • Evan Brooks on June 27, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    Being an under 15 and having been born in America with my parents as Americans two, you come disrespect the USACA and the way they structure cricket. Cricket could be striving in America if we did not have stupid people running it. America in all is lazy. There is no doubt about it. Selectors are not quality and executives spend money like democrats. Cricket in America is no good because of the people that run it. One person I have come to respect is Malcolm Nash. He is the main people of USJC and has tried multiple approaches to introducing cricket. But it is not him that that is lazy, it is most American kids. And until the kids are fixed, neither will American cricket be.

  • ram on March 26, 2007, 23:33 GMT

    ICC should take personal intrest in the devlopment of cricket in USA. if the association is weak they should establish cricket academy themselves. USA has lots of cricket playing immigrants and many county's. If ICC can strive to devlop cricket in USA, not only they will teach USA about cricket but also can make lots of money. A minimum of 4 cricket stadiums should be build allover USA and few series should be scheduled there to make americans aware of cricket. they should think about the devlopment of the sport in USA than of rules and blah blah.

  • Sohrab on March 6, 2007, 4:52 GMT

    Cricket is not for USA and will not become a part of the culture for a looooooooooong time. I am very happy at the exclusion of USA from ICC. I am also strictly against teams like Bermuda (45 all out).

  • Farhan Aziz on March 5, 2007, 21:20 GMT

    The USA has a relatively infant cricket structure. The USA is an interesting model since the cricket base comprises of a wide range of expatriate nationalities, which certainly contributes to the lack of synergy. Add to this; the voluntary nature of our administrative setup - you get chaos.

    Chaos will exist with or without Dainty. What the USA needs is for the ICC to set up a professional panel of administrators to run USA cricket. US cricket should channel through this set up. We simply cannot rely on non-professionals to take the US to the next level.

    Come on ICC, show some vision and get us on the map again by holding our hand!

  • Turnaround on March 5, 2007, 18:22 GMT

    I have been playing cricket for more than a decade in the great Southern California. I think this is a great turnaround for cricket in USA. Imagine had the new constitution was adopted, we would have never seen this day and cricket would be driven completely in wrong direction with those crooks, Now is the chance for us, We have some really good administers in USA who can work honestly and have a fair vision for development this great game. Someone please open a blog and give access to identify people who can plan for the next step. Just bitching about whatever happens is I believe not the answer, the answer to this is to start immediately for our ball game all over again. The more we will wait to see what is next it will be too late to even think of developing cricket in USA. So I am saying lets start the march today.

    ICC sure has helped us, now its our job to do the next step by creating a real organization who has true ethics for development

  • M Grady on March 5, 2007, 12:04 GMT

    As usual USA’s narrow minded leadership has failed. I’am an American who has lived in the UK for many years for me this story is nothing new. My son and I love the game and have attempted to deal with USA cricket before, same run around as the young man from AZ. Several years ago my son now 23 attempted to make contact with USA cricket , at the time he was one of the very few if not the only American playing ECB county youth cricket in the country, and one of the youngest players in SR level league cricket. We knew that USA cricket was spending money sending reps to the UK, common sense said if he’s got some talent why not have a look it could only be good for the USA who was talking a lot about getting more exposure , his country board was very supportive even offered to help set up a trail. As it turns out USA cricket wanted nothing to do with a US born cricketer, who was playing in the UK. Since then he has turned his interest to UK youth cricket receiving a degree in Sports Science Coaching from one of the UKs top sports Universities, he is a certified ECB coach, was capt of his University team, and has coached country development teams. In short what a waist USA youth should be benefiting. Cricket is a great game lost on the “it’s all about ME and my friends “ types who are still running USA cricket.

    M.Grady

  • Yousaf, Muhammad on March 4, 2007, 7:10 GMT

    Enough is enough, this current board of directors and executive committee should resign. They should keep themselves away from cricket and let people w/class and dignity runs USA cricket. Folks, current EB members are opening the leagues to get more votes, which is the only services they have done to cricket. They divided cricket’s lovers in two groups to benefit themselves.

    My humble request to all these BODs & EB members to just resign and stay home, there is no more room for them to humiliate USA name in international cricket community.

    I’m worried may be current EB & BODs will start new ICC in their own courtyard (if they can start leagues if they are not happy w/the one they been part for so long). You can expect any thing from this group.

  • raj on March 4, 2007, 4:14 GMT

    What should the US clubs do? Pay our annual dues to USACA or just hold on to the money? Can someone advice?

  • Joshua Abrahim on March 4, 2007, 0:25 GMT

    I think this is a deliberate act by the usaca to sabatage cricket in the usa and make sure it never gets off the ground. Shame on you

  • Peter on March 3, 2007, 23:12 GMT

    I live in USA and I am surprised that no one has noticed this aspect of USA Cricket failure. Baseball Associations in USA are actively obstructing any progress in Cricket in USA. This has been propagated to grass root levels of Baseball population. Whenever we try to convert an unused ground in to playing cricket playing condition, they try to convert it to Soccer or baseball and somehow take it away from Cricket even after following proper procedures. In USA, everything works on lobbying and money. Cricket in USA will never succeed since it will be a threat to other sports.

  • Naja on March 3, 2007, 23:10 GMT

    My main concern is that the ICC is declared part of the axis of evil and all cricketing nations are invaded for their linseed oil!

  • Intrigued on March 3, 2007, 20:45 GMT

    This is quite an intriguing development. How come we have not heard from USACA? Why can't a majority of the clubs that have associated themselves with USACA just bolt out of that and form an orgnaization with a valid constituition to start with. It is just rediculous that an organization can not get a constitution to gether and old elections. What is going on USACA? I think the ICC decision basically is a death sentence for USACA and it is time to start something new. Anyone game for that?

  • Avais Masud on March 3, 2007, 19:37 GMT

    Its sad,but its a right decision by ICC, it cannot keep rewarding USACA for its misconduct. I play in a local league in USA and have been the manager and the selctor of its regional teamh. I have seen closely the abundance of talent in USA. If managed with honesty, USA has a big enough pool of talented cricketers to become one of the best team among the non-test playing countries, in five year time .ICC should not do the business with the people who are destroying the game but don't want to conduct the election in fear of losing it.

  • Bhaarat on March 3, 2007, 19:30 GMT

    I am really disappointed by this news. I play for one of the subdivisions of USACA called WCL (Washington Cricket League). Even though, other people might think cricket isn't popular in the USA but it is very popular among interested automatons. We wait our whole year to look forward to this league. But to see lazy officials holding positions at higher seats of USACA and not doing their part to spread cricket in the USA is really disappointing. I think if the ICC really does see profit in the USA then it should form its own subdivision which supervises cricket in the USA. Rather than giving grant to officials who parent doing their part. ICC should SEND their members to different parts of USA where cricket is popular and spend the money there.

    Cricinfo, too can participate in spreading cricket in the USA. Only news i've seen on cricinfo about USA cricket is of the national team or the news that lazy officials provide them with. Cricinfo's correspondents should try to come and see one of our seasons and with what intensity we play our cricket and how popular it has become within the Asian community. But these are just far-fetched thoughts of a legspinner with a broken knee hoping to get better before the season.

  • Roger Burrows (Canada) on March 3, 2007, 19:00 GMT

    American sports are dominated by those pro sports that have TV network coverage and any sport that doesn't is always going to be left out in the cold. Maybe if cricket were an Olympic sport big corporations and TV networks would jump at the chance of making money off it, but otherwise it will be ignored. Too bad, because cricket, like soccer, requires so little in the way of equipment compared to ice hockey and American football ('gladiator-ball') and is a far superior team sport.

  • Raj on March 3, 2007, 18:47 GMT

    Good decision by ICC. Now, what is the next step? What stops these clowns to continue without bothering about ICC? Will Dainty, Charlie, Selwyn Caesar, Curtis Clarke etc etc resign and let a new generation of people take over USACA? These guys will not do it. Ceaser is retired and has nothing to do but Cricket. Some are selfish and some just want power.

    ICC should appoint a professional body to handle cricket in the US. Honarary stuff will not work in the US. If a pro body takes over and ICC pays for it then ICC will get a return on their investment. Otherwise, expect Cricket to have a slow death over 5-10 years.

    Why would I want my sons, daughters and nephews to play Cricket when I know that they have have no future in the US

  • Marian Christie on March 3, 2007, 17:49 GMT

    I have no doubt that you are correct, Firoz. It would, however, be interesting to hear the ICC's official justification for their apparent double standards on the USA and Zimbabwe. Perhaps the Cricinfo team might put that very question to the ICC?

  • Nafi Karim on March 3, 2007, 17:48 GMT

    Isn't there any other cricket board/organization that can replace the USACA besides the MLC?

  • Hemant Gandhi on March 3, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    It is indeed a sad story. But was anything else expected? I have been involved with club cricket in California for more than a decade now and have been a silent observer of the admninistrators of cricket in the state as well as the country. Reality is Cricket can not be developed in the USA the way it was developed in other countries. After so many years, it is still an expat sport. It take 6th or 7th position in any kind of school fuding (Football, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Hockey, Tennis, Atheletics and then may be cricket). So it can never become a mainstream sport.

    All is not lost though. California Cricket Academy in Silicon Valley has started a league of under-15, 13 and 11 to nurture cricket in youth without any financial help from any of the administrative organizations but sponsors from indian and Pakistani communities and seen some great success in building 8 teams. Hemant Buch, the founder and eternally optimistic administrator of CCA has done something which nobody else has done so far. CCA will be the showcase of cricket in the USA in the years to come.

  • Robert Fleming on March 3, 2007, 17:13 GMT

    I really think it is about time the ICC take control of this ridiculous situation. You have a massive lucrative market in the US, and it has proved popular (admittedly normally amongst ex-pat communities, but there are plenty of those). Three years ago, the US looked set to host at least 1 World Cup match, now it's a shambles again. The ICC either needs to set up a new body, or give control to the rogue US cricket federation. Imagine the potential if the US and China can truely embrace the world's second most popular game...

  • Good News on March 3, 2007, 15:46 GMT

    its a good news for cricket in General, USA doesnt care for cricket so why should ICC? let them play their girlie sport of Baseball, Australia is heading that way too .. i wouldnt mind seeing aussies dropping out from cricket either, play baseball with those oven mits yanks .. learn how to catch a ball barehanded first.

    icc should focus on developing nations such as china (who are producing their own talent), unlike USA and Canada where ex-pats practically own the organizations..

    there are only couple of canadian players that were actually born in Canada.. its a joke.. they should be banned too..

  • Firoz on March 3, 2007, 14:34 GMT

    To Brian Murphy-- Simple. A number of First-class (ODI and Test) nations have a vested interest in Zimbabwean cricket, and their representatives would oppose dropping Zimbabwe from the ICC membership roster. With USA, only the WI would have such a compelling interest, so a vote to drop USA would be easier for the ICC Executive. In a word-- politics.

  • Masaood Yunus on March 3, 2007, 12:49 GMT

    It is indeed another sad chapter in the history of USA Cricket. The county that was part of and hosted the first ever International ODI has been in the limelight for all wrong reasons. I actively play in one of the cricket leagues that is a part of USACA and this is indeed a sorry affair for all of us. The way the hush hush, no-question asked constitution was drafted and voted on clearly reflect the incompetency of the current administration. Without ICC's backing and funding the sorry state of this hugely attractive market will continue to rank low in the world cricket. What a waste indeed.

  • brian murphy on March 3, 2007, 12:10 GMT

    Without being privvy to the full history and reasons and from just reading the reasons for the suspension, one must ask if there are two sets of rules - one for the USA and one for Zimbabwe - who have also had very dubious elections and basically stage managed the election of their Board of Control.Why have Zimbabwe not been suspended ???

  • Firoz on March 3, 2007, 11:18 GMT

    At last the USACA gets precisely what it deserved for three years of mismanagement of US Cricket. Clearly the Gladstone Dainty interview and the verbal gymnastics perpetrated by Stuart Ellis were the last straws. The real pity is that US cricketers are left out in the cold, with no opportunities to play international cricket in the foreseeable future. Considerng how well the USA team was beginning to play, and how excellently its U-19 team performed in winning the North American qualifier and earning a berth in the U-19 World Cup, it is a shame that they will have no opportunities to build upon those successes. Mr. Dainty, you are quoted in the Cricinfo as saying that USACA's relationships with ICC were A-O-K, and that you were "not a spokesman" for Malcolm Speed. Well, Speed clearly did not need a spokesman, and his actions towards USACA can hardly be called "A-O-K". I am waiting to see what you will do now; a mass resignation of you and your cohorts would not be such a bad idea.

  • Fiona Allen on March 3, 2007, 10:26 GMT

    It seems odd to think of the USA having a cricket team, I mean one tends to think of American sport in terms of football, basketball and baseball. Being a resident of Darwin, Australia though, I would have liked to see their cricket team playing here in May.

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  • Fiona Allen on March 3, 2007, 10:26 GMT

    It seems odd to think of the USA having a cricket team, I mean one tends to think of American sport in terms of football, basketball and baseball. Being a resident of Darwin, Australia though, I would have liked to see their cricket team playing here in May.

  • Firoz on March 3, 2007, 11:18 GMT

    At last the USACA gets precisely what it deserved for three years of mismanagement of US Cricket. Clearly the Gladstone Dainty interview and the verbal gymnastics perpetrated by Stuart Ellis were the last straws. The real pity is that US cricketers are left out in the cold, with no opportunities to play international cricket in the foreseeable future. Considerng how well the USA team was beginning to play, and how excellently its U-19 team performed in winning the North American qualifier and earning a berth in the U-19 World Cup, it is a shame that they will have no opportunities to build upon those successes. Mr. Dainty, you are quoted in the Cricinfo as saying that USACA's relationships with ICC were A-O-K, and that you were "not a spokesman" for Malcolm Speed. Well, Speed clearly did not need a spokesman, and his actions towards USACA can hardly be called "A-O-K". I am waiting to see what you will do now; a mass resignation of you and your cohorts would not be such a bad idea.

  • brian murphy on March 3, 2007, 12:10 GMT

    Without being privvy to the full history and reasons and from just reading the reasons for the suspension, one must ask if there are two sets of rules - one for the USA and one for Zimbabwe - who have also had very dubious elections and basically stage managed the election of their Board of Control.Why have Zimbabwe not been suspended ???

  • Masaood Yunus on March 3, 2007, 12:49 GMT

    It is indeed another sad chapter in the history of USA Cricket. The county that was part of and hosted the first ever International ODI has been in the limelight for all wrong reasons. I actively play in one of the cricket leagues that is a part of USACA and this is indeed a sorry affair for all of us. The way the hush hush, no-question asked constitution was drafted and voted on clearly reflect the incompetency of the current administration. Without ICC's backing and funding the sorry state of this hugely attractive market will continue to rank low in the world cricket. What a waste indeed.

  • Firoz on March 3, 2007, 14:34 GMT

    To Brian Murphy-- Simple. A number of First-class (ODI and Test) nations have a vested interest in Zimbabwean cricket, and their representatives would oppose dropping Zimbabwe from the ICC membership roster. With USA, only the WI would have such a compelling interest, so a vote to drop USA would be easier for the ICC Executive. In a word-- politics.

  • Good News on March 3, 2007, 15:46 GMT

    its a good news for cricket in General, USA doesnt care for cricket so why should ICC? let them play their girlie sport of Baseball, Australia is heading that way too .. i wouldnt mind seeing aussies dropping out from cricket either, play baseball with those oven mits yanks .. learn how to catch a ball barehanded first.

    icc should focus on developing nations such as china (who are producing their own talent), unlike USA and Canada where ex-pats practically own the organizations..

    there are only couple of canadian players that were actually born in Canada.. its a joke.. they should be banned too..

  • Robert Fleming on March 3, 2007, 17:13 GMT

    I really think it is about time the ICC take control of this ridiculous situation. You have a massive lucrative market in the US, and it has proved popular (admittedly normally amongst ex-pat communities, but there are plenty of those). Three years ago, the US looked set to host at least 1 World Cup match, now it's a shambles again. The ICC either needs to set up a new body, or give control to the rogue US cricket federation. Imagine the potential if the US and China can truely embrace the world's second most popular game...

  • Hemant Gandhi on March 3, 2007, 17:22 GMT

    It is indeed a sad story. But was anything else expected? I have been involved with club cricket in California for more than a decade now and have been a silent observer of the admninistrators of cricket in the state as well as the country. Reality is Cricket can not be developed in the USA the way it was developed in other countries. After so many years, it is still an expat sport. It take 6th or 7th position in any kind of school fuding (Football, Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Hockey, Tennis, Atheletics and then may be cricket). So it can never become a mainstream sport.

    All is not lost though. California Cricket Academy in Silicon Valley has started a league of under-15, 13 and 11 to nurture cricket in youth without any financial help from any of the administrative organizations but sponsors from indian and Pakistani communities and seen some great success in building 8 teams. Hemant Buch, the founder and eternally optimistic administrator of CCA has done something which nobody else has done so far. CCA will be the showcase of cricket in the USA in the years to come.

  • Nafi Karim on March 3, 2007, 17:48 GMT

    Isn't there any other cricket board/organization that can replace the USACA besides the MLC?

  • Marian Christie on March 3, 2007, 17:49 GMT

    I have no doubt that you are correct, Firoz. It would, however, be interesting to hear the ICC's official justification for their apparent double standards on the USA and Zimbabwe. Perhaps the Cricinfo team might put that very question to the ICC?