West Indies cricket August 15, 2010

WIPA v weaklings

The impasse between the Guyana Cricket Board and the West Indies Players' Association days before the Champions League served as a repeat of the crisis involving Trinidad and Tobago last year
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A West Indies team is ready for an international engagement. Suddenly, the West Indies Players' Association (WIPA) notices something in the players' contracts not to its liking. It presses its case. An impasse develops with the relevant, unprepared board, leading to frantic, last-minute negotiations, always overshadowed by the threat of strike action.

It is a well-established tactic, generally known as brinksmanship, and it has served WIPA and its members well since Dinanath Ramnarine took over as its president and chief executive seven years ago. So it has done in the latest instance.

After Guyana won the first WICB regional T20 tournament last month to qualify as the West Indies' representative at the second Champions League in South Africa, the WIPA raised several objections. It questioned the WICB's decision to keep a third of the participation fee of US$500,000 that is paid to the board of each participating team, stating that "retaining such a large sum could have a direct negative impact on Guyanese cricket and its players".

It noted that the WICB passed on the full fee, then US$200,000, to the Trinidad and Tobago Board (TTCB) last year when Trinidad and Tobago were the West Indies' representative. WIPA also charged that the Guyana Cricket Board (GCB) had not responded to its proposals, made ten days earlier, as to how its two-thirds of the participation fee (US$333,333) and the allocated prize money (at least US$100,000) should be shared with the players. It reportedly pressed for a 75% split.

And it doubted the contention that discussions over players' image rights would have to be done directly with the Champions League, rather than with the WICB or the Guyana Cricket Board. It contended that its off-shoot, the West Indies Players Management Company Limited (WIPMACOL), holds its members' image rights and should be involved.

The WICB promptly issued a statement of "clarification" on two points. It justified its retention of a third of the participation fee as a way of offsetting the costs of just over US$2 million for staging the 2010 tournament, pointing out that there were no such costs in 2009 as there had been no tournament.

It stated that the Guyana players had signed terms with the Champions League, agreeing to their images being used by the league during the tournament. Any alteration to such contracts, it stated, would have to be made with the league.

Ramnarine succeeds because he has the most influential players firmly behind him and all contributing to the operation of the WIPA. He has his way, too, because of the proven weakness of administrators he regards with disdain.

By now, the GCB seemed ready to confront the WIPA on its demands. It secured an interim injunction from Guyana's acting Chief Justice Ian Chang, restraining the WIPA, Ramnarine and WIPMACOL from interfering in its contract with the BCCI, the Champions League's parent body. In its application, the GCB said that WIPA's demands would not be met.

The injunction barred WIPA, Ramnarine and WIPMACOL "from doing any act which has the tendency of causing or inducing the GCB to dishonour or act in breach of the agreement for Guyana to participate in the upcoming tournament".

At the same time, the acting Chief Justice granted GCB president Chetram Singh and secretary Anand Sanadie a writ against WIPA, Ramnarine and WIPMACOL seeking in excess of $10,000,000 damages for intrusion in the GCB's contract with the Champions League and a similar amount "for conspiracy" to "prevent the GCB's team selected from taking part unless it does so on their terms as to the sharing or remuneration or otherwise".

It was now clear that, unless there was a settlement, Guyana would not be in South Africa, an unthinkable scenario. The whole country--indeed the whole diaspora-had been energised by the triumph in the regional T20 tournament and the prospects of following Trinidad and Tobago's inspiring example in finishing runners-up in the inaugural Champions' League. Guyana's cricket has been down in the dumps for a long while. Now, according to Travis Dowlin, a linchpin of the team, everywhere they went the players were being hailed as champions. As it happens in sport, their success had galvanised the nation.

Inevitably, the government felt compelled to intervene to break the deadlock. The acting Sports Minister Irfaan Ali summoned a meeting with Singh and Guyana captain Ramnaresh Sarwan, a staunch WIPA member, to sort things out. At the end of it, Singh said "a consensus on various aspects of the Guyana team's participation in South Africa was reached". He offered no details, except to say that he no longer saw the need to follow up the proposed legal action against WIPA. "What I can say is that after today's meeting we have agreed on several issues and now everyone should be focusing on giving the team the best chance to be successful in South Africa," Singh said.

Whatever spin is put on it, it was not difficult to deduce that most of the concessions would have been the GCB's. As a long-standing member of the WICB, Singh would have had plenty of such experiences through its dealings with the WIPA.

Once again, Ramnarine had carried his opponents to the brink. So it has been repeatedly in the past and, last year, just days prior to the Trinidad and Tobago team's departure for the first Champions League in India.

As subsequently revealed by Anil Roberts, ironically now Minister of Sport in the new government, negotiations between the TTCB and WIPA over contracts had broken down when he was on the spot in his role as a sports media personality. Conscious of the repercussions, he stepped in to get them back together. Agreement was reached and Trinidad and Tobago was free to fulfil its date with destiny. As it turned out, the players received an extra 25 per cent from a newly-constituted TTCB on their return.

It might be the same this time but such last-minute disputes are clearly untenable. Ramnarine boasts that the WIPA has won all seven issues with the WICB that have gone to arbitration. He has ensured that even players who twice withdrew from teams on the eve of international series returned to the fold (some as captain) and saw to it that their fees increased to the extent that they are among the best paid anywhere.

He succeeds because he has the most influential players firmly behind him and all contributing to the operation of the WIPA. He has his way, too, because of the proven weakness of administrators he regards with disdain. Perhaps his greatest coup was to wring out of the compliant WICB hefty compensation for loss of earnings for those players who went on strike prior to last year's Bangladesh home series.

Yet performances on the field continue to be an embarrassment. One of the principal reasons for this interminable decline was again clearly evident in events in Georgetown this past week. So it will continue until such nonsense is ended, once and for all.

Tony Cozier has written about and commentated on cricket in the Caribbean for nearly 50 years

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  • Singhe on August 22, 2010, 18:56 GMT

    There are a lot of nonsense written about Ramanrine here: the man is doing the job his clients pay him to do. He can out-speak, out-think, out-manoeuvre, out-manage and out-negotiate the entire WICB with half his brain tied behind his back. On the other hand, the dunces at the WICB has thier posh offices, salaries, expense account and gets to run around all over the world on the players dime. People, pay attention and watch what the WICB does ,not what it says!!Nothing will change until the WICB has responsible intelliegent people running cricket. In the meantime, I am still waiting to see Crozier write about the "proven weaknesses" of the WICB, or is he afraid to lose the priveleges he gets from the WICB.

  • vinnyg on August 20, 2010, 12:47 GMT

    the sooner ramnarine is put out of his misery the better it will be for windies cricket, as for gayle and sarwan, firstly i am jamaican and i dont think gayle is a good captain, i think his first love is the money and not the game, i dont think he is genuinely humble and he did such a bad thing when he accepted the captaincy after proclaiming that he was just keeping the seat warm for sarwan..no matter what wicb said he shouldnt have accepted...can you imagine the bad things they said about sarwan for him to accept, furthermore sarwan was like his best friend at the time. as for sarwan serve him right for being money hungry as well although i think he is more wipa friendly because of the treatment of wicb, i would love to see all the players get a real job and see how they would survive....most of us will work 10 lifetime and still wont earn nearly as much as they do for ramping

  • Metman on August 19, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Well said ,Tony! This man Ramnarine just likes publicity ,He , Andre Baptiste and Dwayne Bravo are in the same League.A league that attracts people that dont know when to butt in or when to keep their mouths shut !The time is fast approaching when Ramnarine will only be representing the TT cricteters against the TT board after the ICC disbands WI cricket,and tells the WICB that the Islands will be a League with Zimbabwe,Bangladesh,Aftghanistan and Ireland.As far as Bravo and Baptiste are concerned ,instead of living in your FANTASY WORLD,you all should have thank Tamar Lambert for returning the favour!

  • ganja_man on August 18, 2010, 18:24 GMT

    I agree Mr. Cozier. Quite frankly, Dinanath Ramnarine seems to be the physical manifestation of the pure greed that invests the souls of many of our current crop of West Indian cricketers. He has repeatedly brought shame upon the WICB and the players, and he continues to masquerade as if he is the saviour of our cricket. In all honesty, if after having had disputes with a multitude of different board members of both past and present administrations, then perhaps the problem isn't the WICB? Perhaps it is Mr. Ramnarine who lacks the charisma and other qualities necessary to conclude these negotiations on the various matters mentioned above in an amicable fashion? As it stands now, the West Indies cricket team plays less games than any of the other cricketing nations... I see no reason why the WICB shouldn't be afforded 1/3 of the money so long as it goes towards organizing future tours/events.

  • Knave on August 17, 2010, 20:59 GMT

    I understand the need for the players to be represented but what the WIPA is doing is very parasitic. I think the union aspect of cricket needs to be abolished - West Indies cricket needs to be union free and then maybe WI cricket wil rise again. It seems that the WIPA arms are far reaching and seems to affect players before they become established. During the Bangladesh series strike, Ipersonally think that the WICB should have legally made all contarcts with the striking palyers null and void. After all how many people get paid for not showing up for work - especially if their performance is sub-standard. Would WIPA pay its administrative staff if they went on strke for some exorbitant raise? Mr. Ramnarine is bottom feeding -

  • KDoc on August 17, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    WELL SAID TONY!! Ramnarine was a poor spinner, cannot hold a bat, yet he is causing headaches for WI Cricket. Since he became the President of the WIPA, WI cricket nosedived. I propose that the players that give him support, including CHRIS GAYLE AND RAMNARESH SARWAN, should be sacked. THEY ARE TOO GREEDY, AND CANNOT WIN WITH THEIR GREEDY ATTITUDE. They are paid the most $$ EVER for ANY West Indian Player, yet they cannot win, that is because their mentality is just as poor as their mentor: Dinanath Ramnarine. It is not because of Sarwan that Guyana won, it is because of the raw talent and hungry-ness to do well, of the young players. Them and all the other young players in the Caribbean should be taught to avoid the greed of the Senior Worthless WI players.

  • lucyferr on August 17, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    If the WICB is so weak, how have the people in charge of it survived for so long? The only problem I have with the government intervention is that it did not get rid of Julian Hunte et al. Perhaps if the WICB didn't keep screwing up, the WIPA wouldn't have to keep screwing it over.

  • on August 17, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    What is there to fight over in WI Cricket? The side is impossibly sorry- part of the thrill of seeing TnT perform last year was the hope that somehow it showed that there was a future for the West Indies side. Sadly, we know better now- they'll just continue to fight over what's left on the table while it rots away to nothing.

  • on August 16, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Guyana is playing four matches as well. If u go on the page for the champion trophy t20 and go into fixtures u would see Guyana in three matches but if u look closer u will see South Australia vs TBA. TBA is Guyana which will give Guyana its fourth match.

  • on August 16, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    There has to be something dreadfully wrong with WI Cricket. Is the situation irretrievable? We blame the players, coaches, captains, WIPA, the WICB and anybody or group of individuals whom we can possibly blame. The problem was Lara; it is now Gayle and Mr. Hunte; no, it has to be Mr. Ramnarine, or is it? Are officials self-serving and corrupt? Are players lazy, greedy or just not good enough? Whatever the perception, the reality is that the situation remains the same. I have no answers, only questions. I just want a new reality: GOOD CRICKET from West Indian teams! I want something to make me smile.

  • Singhe on August 22, 2010, 18:56 GMT

    There are a lot of nonsense written about Ramanrine here: the man is doing the job his clients pay him to do. He can out-speak, out-think, out-manoeuvre, out-manage and out-negotiate the entire WICB with half his brain tied behind his back. On the other hand, the dunces at the WICB has thier posh offices, salaries, expense account and gets to run around all over the world on the players dime. People, pay attention and watch what the WICB does ,not what it says!!Nothing will change until the WICB has responsible intelliegent people running cricket. In the meantime, I am still waiting to see Crozier write about the "proven weaknesses" of the WICB, or is he afraid to lose the priveleges he gets from the WICB.

  • vinnyg on August 20, 2010, 12:47 GMT

    the sooner ramnarine is put out of his misery the better it will be for windies cricket, as for gayle and sarwan, firstly i am jamaican and i dont think gayle is a good captain, i think his first love is the money and not the game, i dont think he is genuinely humble and he did such a bad thing when he accepted the captaincy after proclaiming that he was just keeping the seat warm for sarwan..no matter what wicb said he shouldnt have accepted...can you imagine the bad things they said about sarwan for him to accept, furthermore sarwan was like his best friend at the time. as for sarwan serve him right for being money hungry as well although i think he is more wipa friendly because of the treatment of wicb, i would love to see all the players get a real job and see how they would survive....most of us will work 10 lifetime and still wont earn nearly as much as they do for ramping

  • Metman on August 19, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Well said ,Tony! This man Ramnarine just likes publicity ,He , Andre Baptiste and Dwayne Bravo are in the same League.A league that attracts people that dont know when to butt in or when to keep their mouths shut !The time is fast approaching when Ramnarine will only be representing the TT cricteters against the TT board after the ICC disbands WI cricket,and tells the WICB that the Islands will be a League with Zimbabwe,Bangladesh,Aftghanistan and Ireland.As far as Bravo and Baptiste are concerned ,instead of living in your FANTASY WORLD,you all should have thank Tamar Lambert for returning the favour!

  • ganja_man on August 18, 2010, 18:24 GMT

    I agree Mr. Cozier. Quite frankly, Dinanath Ramnarine seems to be the physical manifestation of the pure greed that invests the souls of many of our current crop of West Indian cricketers. He has repeatedly brought shame upon the WICB and the players, and he continues to masquerade as if he is the saviour of our cricket. In all honesty, if after having had disputes with a multitude of different board members of both past and present administrations, then perhaps the problem isn't the WICB? Perhaps it is Mr. Ramnarine who lacks the charisma and other qualities necessary to conclude these negotiations on the various matters mentioned above in an amicable fashion? As it stands now, the West Indies cricket team plays less games than any of the other cricketing nations... I see no reason why the WICB shouldn't be afforded 1/3 of the money so long as it goes towards organizing future tours/events.

  • Knave on August 17, 2010, 20:59 GMT

    I understand the need for the players to be represented but what the WIPA is doing is very parasitic. I think the union aspect of cricket needs to be abolished - West Indies cricket needs to be union free and then maybe WI cricket wil rise again. It seems that the WIPA arms are far reaching and seems to affect players before they become established. During the Bangladesh series strike, Ipersonally think that the WICB should have legally made all contarcts with the striking palyers null and void. After all how many people get paid for not showing up for work - especially if their performance is sub-standard. Would WIPA pay its administrative staff if they went on strke for some exorbitant raise? Mr. Ramnarine is bottom feeding -

  • KDoc on August 17, 2010, 13:57 GMT

    WELL SAID TONY!! Ramnarine was a poor spinner, cannot hold a bat, yet he is causing headaches for WI Cricket. Since he became the President of the WIPA, WI cricket nosedived. I propose that the players that give him support, including CHRIS GAYLE AND RAMNARESH SARWAN, should be sacked. THEY ARE TOO GREEDY, AND CANNOT WIN WITH THEIR GREEDY ATTITUDE. They are paid the most $$ EVER for ANY West Indian Player, yet they cannot win, that is because their mentality is just as poor as their mentor: Dinanath Ramnarine. It is not because of Sarwan that Guyana won, it is because of the raw talent and hungry-ness to do well, of the young players. Them and all the other young players in the Caribbean should be taught to avoid the greed of the Senior Worthless WI players.

  • lucyferr on August 17, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    If the WICB is so weak, how have the people in charge of it survived for so long? The only problem I have with the government intervention is that it did not get rid of Julian Hunte et al. Perhaps if the WICB didn't keep screwing up, the WIPA wouldn't have to keep screwing it over.

  • on August 17, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    What is there to fight over in WI Cricket? The side is impossibly sorry- part of the thrill of seeing TnT perform last year was the hope that somehow it showed that there was a future for the West Indies side. Sadly, we know better now- they'll just continue to fight over what's left on the table while it rots away to nothing.

  • on August 16, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Guyana is playing four matches as well. If u go on the page for the champion trophy t20 and go into fixtures u would see Guyana in three matches but if u look closer u will see South Australia vs TBA. TBA is Guyana which will give Guyana its fourth match.

  • on August 16, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    There has to be something dreadfully wrong with WI Cricket. Is the situation irretrievable? We blame the players, coaches, captains, WIPA, the WICB and anybody or group of individuals whom we can possibly blame. The problem was Lara; it is now Gayle and Mr. Hunte; no, it has to be Mr. Ramnarine, or is it? Are officials self-serving and corrupt? Are players lazy, greedy or just not good enough? Whatever the perception, the reality is that the situation remains the same. I have no answers, only questions. I just want a new reality: GOOD CRICKET from West Indian teams! I want something to make me smile.

  • ajay12 on August 16, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    its ridiculous that the GCB is trying to take most of the money from the cricketers. seeing that they havent really shaped any careers. even Foo plays his cricket in trinidad for diamond, dowlin for comets and so on. WIPA is right. Give the players what they deserve which is atleast 80% of the fee. btw, it is disgusting that the guyanese side only has 3 matches, my belief is that it is scripted to give the tournament some excitement to the end with a minnow team making it deep into the competition.

  • Singhe on August 16, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    This is a disappointing article from Cozier: bordering on cowardice!! I agree the quality of WI cricket is poor,and, that the players and WIPA must take some responsibility. However, blaming the players ,WIPA and Ramnarine is flat out childish. The custodian of WI cricket are the boards, and some of the geniuses on the WICB reflects the quality of education in the region. As an influential journalist, the question Cozier ought to have asked the Boards and the WIPA, is why this agreement was not agreed to prior to to the tournament, especially after the TnT debacle last year??!!! Reminiding the WICB that they consistenly lose at arbitration is not a boast: it is an illustration of the quality of their argument. Now Cozier can write about what he termed the administrators' "proven weaknesses". The quality of WI Cricket has not improved in twenty years because the young men playing emulate the ignorance and selfishness of their leaders.

  • NBRADEE on August 16, 2010, 12:11 GMT

    There is no verifiable linkage between salary and performance (true in every sport and in business as well); hence, I have no real problem with Ramnarine et al. If the players begin to win consistently, should we re-structure how much they are paid based on new performance outcomes??? Actually the Board loses everytime they go to arbitration because of the endless times they try to start over the process of negotiation, having previously settled in one way or other - who can trust that???

    If you all want to see better performance, have Ramnarine take his money for his players while negotiating for performance clauses for players to retain their right to team play (something that Dwayne Bravo learnt about after his days playing in Kent!). Let the captain earn his keep, as should every other player - but ensure that insurance, fitness training on par with elsewhere and mental training and preparation is part of the puzzle, too!

  • Navin84 on August 16, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    Can someone tell me why is Guyana only playing three (3) preliminary round matches as compared to all other teams in this CL who are playing four (4) each. Look at the schedule on the top right hand corner of this page.

  • on August 16, 2010, 6:00 GMT

    what they should pay for free y the wicb shld get the money they dont do shit/if you guys think the players are not performing and should not get paid then go and tell your boss tommorow or whenever you had a bad day at work you don't deserve to get paid for the bad day you had/ i bet none of you a** would do it...bunch of haters.....if they play they get paid simple just like if you work u get paid/same thing so give it a rest everyone is trying there best!!! and ramnarine is doing his job!!!

  • ashok16 on August 16, 2010, 4:51 GMT

    It is not clear what Mr. Cozier's complaint against Mr. Ramnarine. Dinanath seems really good at what he is doing. Maybe he would make a good coach for West Indian team.

  • degiant on August 16, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    When Lloyd's men were fighting for more money in the late 70's, one could have understood because they were the top team in the world and played with alot of pride. Now it's almost a shame to admit that you are a WI supporter because off all the greed along with the brainless and gutless proformance we often see from this current crop of so-call players. This guy Ramnarine seems to only have his self-image and vengeance against the WI board [whom I also blame for the state of WI game]. Ramnarine is like an umpire or ref who just wants to be notice and make calls that are not called for. Playing in the 80's you got about $200 US per game and even though you wanted the money it was mostly about playing for your country and REALLY REALLY TRYING HARD to win and if not, then not to lose, I think the players are making enough and yet they are NOT PRODUCING. The boards needs to be restructured and use more former players to help with the revival of WI cricket.

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  • degiant on August 16, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    When Lloyd's men were fighting for more money in the late 70's, one could have understood because they were the top team in the world and played with alot of pride. Now it's almost a shame to admit that you are a WI supporter because off all the greed along with the brainless and gutless proformance we often see from this current crop of so-call players. This guy Ramnarine seems to only have his self-image and vengeance against the WI board [whom I also blame for the state of WI game]. Ramnarine is like an umpire or ref who just wants to be notice and make calls that are not called for. Playing in the 80's you got about $200 US per game and even though you wanted the money it was mostly about playing for your country and REALLY REALLY TRYING HARD to win and if not, then not to lose, I think the players are making enough and yet they are NOT PRODUCING. The boards needs to be restructured and use more former players to help with the revival of WI cricket.

  • ashok16 on August 16, 2010, 4:51 GMT

    It is not clear what Mr. Cozier's complaint against Mr. Ramnarine. Dinanath seems really good at what he is doing. Maybe he would make a good coach for West Indian team.

  • on August 16, 2010, 6:00 GMT

    what they should pay for free y the wicb shld get the money they dont do shit/if you guys think the players are not performing and should not get paid then go and tell your boss tommorow or whenever you had a bad day at work you don't deserve to get paid for the bad day you had/ i bet none of you a** would do it...bunch of haters.....if they play they get paid simple just like if you work u get paid/same thing so give it a rest everyone is trying there best!!! and ramnarine is doing his job!!!

  • Navin84 on August 16, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    Can someone tell me why is Guyana only playing three (3) preliminary round matches as compared to all other teams in this CL who are playing four (4) each. Look at the schedule on the top right hand corner of this page.

  • NBRADEE on August 16, 2010, 12:11 GMT

    There is no verifiable linkage between salary and performance (true in every sport and in business as well); hence, I have no real problem with Ramnarine et al. If the players begin to win consistently, should we re-structure how much they are paid based on new performance outcomes??? Actually the Board loses everytime they go to arbitration because of the endless times they try to start over the process of negotiation, having previously settled in one way or other - who can trust that???

    If you all want to see better performance, have Ramnarine take his money for his players while negotiating for performance clauses for players to retain their right to team play (something that Dwayne Bravo learnt about after his days playing in Kent!). Let the captain earn his keep, as should every other player - but ensure that insurance, fitness training on par with elsewhere and mental training and preparation is part of the puzzle, too!

  • Singhe on August 16, 2010, 12:53 GMT

    This is a disappointing article from Cozier: bordering on cowardice!! I agree the quality of WI cricket is poor,and, that the players and WIPA must take some responsibility. However, blaming the players ,WIPA and Ramnarine is flat out childish. The custodian of WI cricket are the boards, and some of the geniuses on the WICB reflects the quality of education in the region. As an influential journalist, the question Cozier ought to have asked the Boards and the WIPA, is why this agreement was not agreed to prior to to the tournament, especially after the TnT debacle last year??!!! Reminiding the WICB that they consistenly lose at arbitration is not a boast: it is an illustration of the quality of their argument. Now Cozier can write about what he termed the administrators' "proven weaknesses". The quality of WI Cricket has not improved in twenty years because the young men playing emulate the ignorance and selfishness of their leaders.

  • ajay12 on August 16, 2010, 13:55 GMT

    its ridiculous that the GCB is trying to take most of the money from the cricketers. seeing that they havent really shaped any careers. even Foo plays his cricket in trinidad for diamond, dowlin for comets and so on. WIPA is right. Give the players what they deserve which is atleast 80% of the fee. btw, it is disgusting that the guyanese side only has 3 matches, my belief is that it is scripted to give the tournament some excitement to the end with a minnow team making it deep into the competition.

  • on August 16, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    There has to be something dreadfully wrong with WI Cricket. Is the situation irretrievable? We blame the players, coaches, captains, WIPA, the WICB and anybody or group of individuals whom we can possibly blame. The problem was Lara; it is now Gayle and Mr. Hunte; no, it has to be Mr. Ramnarine, or is it? Are officials self-serving and corrupt? Are players lazy, greedy or just not good enough? Whatever the perception, the reality is that the situation remains the same. I have no answers, only questions. I just want a new reality: GOOD CRICKET from West Indian teams! I want something to make me smile.

  • on August 16, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Guyana is playing four matches as well. If u go on the page for the champion trophy t20 and go into fixtures u would see Guyana in three matches but if u look closer u will see South Australia vs TBA. TBA is Guyana which will give Guyana its fourth match.

  • on August 17, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    What is there to fight over in WI Cricket? The side is impossibly sorry- part of the thrill of seeing TnT perform last year was the hope that somehow it showed that there was a future for the West Indies side. Sadly, we know better now- they'll just continue to fight over what's left on the table while it rots away to nothing.