McCullum considering Brook over Pope as Ashes vice-captain

Harry Brook could be in line to replace Ollie Pope as Ben Stokes' deputy in Australia this winter, after Brendon McCullum revealed that the identity of England's Test vice-captain will be part of their pre-Ashes discussions this week.

McCullum is set to fly home to New Zealand on Monday evening following the conclusion of England's home international summer, after their final T20I against South Africa ended in a wash-out at Trent Bridge on Sunday. He is due to meet managing director Rob Key in London prior to his flight to discuss selection for the Australia tour, and though he anticipates picking the squad to wrestle back the urn after 10 years will be "pretty easy", he admits there are important details to iron out.

Undoubtedly, one of the trickier matters to broach will be the issue of the vice-captaincy. McCullum confirmed there has been no conversation with Pope yet, who was originally appointed to the role in 2023, and has led the team on five occasions, most recently in the fifth Test of the India series when Stokes was ruled out with a shoulder injury. However, Brook has emerged as an impressive option since being elevated to the limited-overs role at the start of the summer.

"We will work on that one as well," McCullum said, when asked if there would be a new vice-captain for the Ashes. "We will chat about that over the coming days, as we finalise our Ashes squad.

"You're always looking at things, right? Every time you get together with a series, you discuss things. I think it's no secret that Harry Brook is emerging as a leader within English cricket, so that's something we need to work out. But whatever happens, a great team man understands that just because you haven't got a title, doesn't stop you from being a leader."

McCullum has clearly been impressed at how Brook has operated in his new role. The pair have been working closely this summer since McCullum assumed control of the white-ball teams at the start of the year, with Brook stepping up as captain in March, when Jos Buttler resigned in the wake of the team's early Champions Trophy exit.

"I've enjoyed working with Brooky, I think he's taken to the role really well, really quickly. Still a work in progress but he's got a demanding schedule himself and we have to be aware of that as we move forward.

"He's got a good head on his shoulders, he's well connected within the group. He keeps things very simple. We've got a really good relationship and I think that started well."

Pope, 27, has won three and lost two of his five matches in charge, which encompasses a 2-1 series win over Sri Lanka last summer. In that period, he has impressed teammates and staff with his leadership qualities, and emerged as a vital cog in the dressing room.

The Surrey batter has also averaged 41.60 at No.3 under Stokes. However, the emergence of Jacob Bethell has led to uncertainty as to whether Pope will start the Ashes in that position - and without the insulation of the vice-captaincy, that speculation is likely to grow.

Bethell's breakthrough 2024 was capped off when he averaged 52.00 away to New Zealand on his first Test assignment. And though he has had little game-time this summer, the 21-year-old was able to register his first professional hundred in the third ODI against South Africa. This week, he is set to become England men's youngest-ever captain, leading a T20I tour of Ireland.

"We'll slow ourselves down a bit there," McCullum said, when asked if Bethell could break into the XI for the first Ashes Test. "We'll wait till we get down there before we start making those decisions."

McCullum suggested Pope will be considered England's reserve wicketkeeper as cover for Jamie Smith. Similar considerations on alternates and the general make-up of the squad will be thrashed out in the coming days.

A decision will also be made on back-up for England's primary spinner Shoaib Bashir, with legspinning allrounder Rehan Ahmed, and left-arm orthodox options Liam Dawson and Jack Leach the candidates with Test experience.

The touring party may also include seven fast bowlers to deal with the rigours of a five-match series, particularly given continued uncertainty over the fitness of Mark Wood. The Durham quick, who underwent left knee surgery in March, is unlikely to play any competitive cricket ahead of the first Test in Perth beginning on November 21.

"I think it's a pretty easy squad to pick really," McCullum said.

"From our point of view, our very good back-up wicketkeeper is Ollie Pope, he's done a great job for us in similar conditions in New Zealand. We know where we are at, probably the only one is the second spinner which we need to chat about to make sure we pick the person who will give us the greatest chance. It's pretty settled.

"We are also in the lucky position that, because of the schedule, we know that the Lions are going to be in Australia at the same time. A lot of the guys in that Lions set-up, if needed, will be playing cricket down there, up and running, and if needed can come across into the full squad anyway.

"We don't need too big a squad, but as we have prepared for over the last couple of years, we have a very settled group of batters, a cartel of fast bowlers, and Shoaib Bashir as our frontline spinner. He will give us the greatest opportunity with his bounce when required. We have a counter-attacking batsman at No 7 and a captain with the bit between his teeth and is super excited."

England are also set to employ their third seam bowling consultant of the year with Tim Southee unable to fulfill that duty due to a stint with Sharjah Warriors in the ILT20. James Anderson, who had previously held the role, is also unavailable.

"Tim won't be available for the Ashes," McCullum confirmed. "There's a couple of guys I'm talking to at the moment. Hopefully we will confirm one of those. They're good names. It would be nice to add them."

Southee's last engagement this year will be the white-ball series in New Zealand in October, which is also likely to feature members of the Ashes squad not involved in the ODI or T20I sides.

The third ODI against the Blackcaps (November 1) in Wellington is just 12 days before the start of an England vs England Lions warm-up at Lilac Hill. Given the proximity of the tours, there is scope to use New Zealand as a pre-Australia base. The Lions are expected to be in Perth from the first week of November.

"When it comes to this New Zealand tour, there is a chance we may bring one or two others in," McCullum said, "to make sure that we we get their final bits of their preparation and the cherry ripe before Australia.

"But we will also use the Lions set-up as well, to make sure we get some loading into some guys when we all meet together in Perth. We'll finish our preparation with our warm-up game and look forward to it."

With McCullum taking Ireland off - assistant coaches Jeetan Patel and Marcus Trescothick will assume charge - he insists he will refresh before "welcoming the boys" back to New Zealand. While he promises to make them as comfortable as possible, with all the trappings his homeland has to offer, he is allowing himself to get excited about his maiden Ashes tour.

"Ramp it up now, we're ready to go," he said. "I thought it would be exciting. We're very keen to make sure that we treat every series in isolation and give it the respect and the focus it deserves, because the minute you get too far in front of yourself, you're going to get your arse kicked. So we always deliberately try and do that. But now the Ashes is our next assignment in the Test team, so we can't wait. It's going to be awesome.

"We try to do our best to insulate the environment, on good days and bad, from a lot of that noise and we know the noise is going to be extreme. But it doesn't mean we're not excited about that. It's going to be a huge series and we go down there with the type of team that we want. We'll give ourselves every chance against the very, very good Australian side in their own conditions. It's going to be a ripper."